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  They need to gut that whole police department. State and federal officials need to dig in like ticks into the Memphis PD. If you see one cockroach in your kitchen, there are a hundred that you don't see. Investigate their convictions. Investigate their stats. Investigate all complaints. Investigate their fucking tax records and find the cops that are stealing.
context: By the looks of those videos, they better keep going for awhile. >
  
  Every officer on scene did nothing to intervene. Every officer on scene therefore contributed to his death. They all need to go. >
  
  Yep, nobody tried to stop Tyre’s murder. They all just stood around and watched as he was killed. I saw in another video that 2 other Sheriffs from a different department were fired and 2 Firemen were also relieved of duty. 
  I hope this is the new norm. To just start cleaning house when something disgusting like this happens. Because it’s obvious the corruption runs deep in this department/city considering how many people were on that scene and not a single person was on poor Tyre’s side. 
  Going forward, this is exactly how it needs to be handled. Cops swiftly fired and charged for their crimes. Now if we can only fire and charge the corrupt judges and prosecutors who also play a huge part in this, we will be well on our way to actually reforming the judicial system. >
  
  Won't they just get hired one town over? >
  
  laws to prevent that are definitely necessary for reform >
  
  And a permanent record that follows you from a national level. The problem cops often just move to another precinct and start their reign of terror elsewhere - this has got to change. >
  
  We track sex offenders, why not public offenders? >
  
  and not just from the federal level, we don’t even track them on a state level >
  
  I'm an RN, I have a state board that I have to answer to that keeps a record of my complaints and decides whether or not my license is renewed every 2 years, without a certified license that employers can look up on the government website, I can't work as an RN... Lawyers, doctors and probably many other professions have the same thing. >
  
  And this is one of the reasons I will argue that law enforcement is not a profession. A profession should have extensive educational requirements and a governing body that handles licensing and keeps members accountable to to a strict set of standards. >
  
  I remember watching 'Boys In The Hood'
  One of the most poignant parts of the movie is where he gets abused by the harassing police officers... and it's explicitly shown that it's a black police officer who is harassing him.
  This isn't a new problem that nobody knew about. 
  It's an old problem that nobody did anything about. >
  
  "Black police showing out for the white cop" - N.W.A.'s Fuck the Police >
  
  Released in 1988. 35 yrs ago. >
  
  And now, in addition to angry, I feel old, too. >
  
  I'll grumpily join you in shaking my fist at the sky in pure middle-aged rage. >
  
  I'll join as soon as I switch out the orthopedic insoles in my skate shoes. >
  
  Did you lose your roller blades? >
  
  They're still in the basement. They were for street hockey, but when my wife's away I dig 'em out, put on my cutoff shirt, my wraparound glasses, and remind the rest of the world what they're missing out on >
  
  Reminds me of an old cherished memory. I was checking in on my grandparents on my way to work, they had been married for 65 yrs at that point (76yrs married when he passed). My Grandma was upstairs cutting coupons and doing whatever, not paying any attention to anything. I wandered the house and found my Grandpa in the basement, in a dark room by the boiler. Reading old newspapers and instruction manuals, under a crappy camp light. He notices me and says “shhh, she doesn’t know I’m down here” he was looking at his pile of stuff she told him to throw away decades ago. Stuff she saw when we cleaned her house out and said “he told me he got rid of that!”  It was amazing. Happily married, none the wiser. 
  Enjoy your street hockey stuff, in the dark basement and you will last a lifetime. >
  
  So Memphis creates a police outreach program designed to "Restore Peace in Our Neighborhoods" and names it the motherfucking SCORPION unit??  Since when are Scorpions associated with peace?  They fucking sting your ass when you accidentally step on them. >
  
  The one where the scorpion kills the frog? Yeah. Its so ironic to use 'scorpion' as an acronym when that fabel exist to teach vicious creatures can not resist themselves and their goal is to create peace >
  
  undoubtedly intentional, malicious compliance to outreach mandates or negative PR >
  
  Ah.  They got Mr. “I hope they stomp his ass” after that quote made the news. >
  
  This was the officer that got so totally winded at the initial stop when he tried to chase Tyre down after he scampered off. >
  
  Did this dumbfuck pepper spray himself too? That mofo was huffing the whole fuckin time, fat fuckin cop >
  
  For real, all he did was unsuccessful try to shove Nichols to the ground, held a taser to his leg, and ran less than 50 yards after him once he ran. The fact that he was so winded would be concerning for anyone, let alone a police officer. >
  
  I honestly laughed for a while at just how winded he was after a ~50yd "sprint" >
  
  These cops openly did all of this knowingly they were on mic, on camera.
  This shows a culture where they knew they had nothing to worry about from anyone up the chain of command. They knew that anyone internally who’d be privy to the recordings wouldn’t give a fuck. 
  As long as the public doesn’t hear/see, they were under the impression that they could do whatever they wanted and the police force would pat them on the back for it. 
  This is definitely not a “bad apple” problem. 100% a fucking police culture problem. >
  
  It wasn't until they noticed the pole camera that they started scheming for how to do the coverup.  You can apparently see the exact moment in the videos.
  Edit:  The investigation had better fucking include literally every number they called and every message they sent in the next 24 hours, with particular focus on the very first ones made after that moment. >
  
  Yes. On the full video of the pole camera you can see that at first they were not in its rage of view. Someone in the monitoring station actively moved the angle to see and record what was happening. They probably didn't notice the change until afterwards.  Thenotjer cameras didn't get much usable videonif the beating, just the audio with the false statements. >
  
  Another comment in another post indicated that these were motions activated cameras, so they move automatically to the source of motion >
  
  I'm sure they can be but from the actual movement of the camera it looks like it was manually done- it slightly overshoots the activity and then adjusts back. While that could be automatic  there seemed to be a decision about what activity was the important part, it doesn't move when more people start arriving and moving into the scene. >
  
  The overshoot makes it more likely that it's automated, not less.  Look up how a control loop works, most of them will have some amount of overshoot, and I suspect this camera uses something like a simple time-averaged PID loop to put the majority of the motion in the center.  And since the motion would have entered the camera from one side or the other, some overshoot would be expected. >
  
  You learn something new every day >
  
  Well time to just apply at the next town over >
  
  Yeah, he'll be a hero in a poor rural county right outside the city. Plenty of those in Tennessee. >
  
  He's the white cop who said "I hope they stomp his ass". >
  
  Just looked up his photo.  No wonder he was gulping air after trotting after Tyre for half a block. >
  
  Something tells me that complete blockage of coronary arteries is the leading killer of cops in that part of the world. >
  
  To be fair, it's probably the leading killer of most people in that part of the world. >
  
  The last time I looked at some "cops killed in the line of duty" database, the leading causes were:
  
  covid
  being shot
  traffic accident
  heart attacks incurred during a physical fitness test
  
  The "traffic accident" also required you to read the actual reports, since the vast majority of them were just run-of-the-mill single vehicle wrecks and not something like lost control during hot pursuit of the Duke boys.  One was even "the officer was riding a motorcycle in a funeral procession and ran into the back of the hearse". >
  
  I want to say it’s something like 30% of cops who kill someone in the field (justified or not) end up taking their own life eventually. >
  
  Hopefully justice will be served. >
  
  Hopefully even more justice is served when they’re in prison >
  
  Would like some clarification on what they mean by “relieved of duty.” Police chiefs in the area have used the same terminology to describe the suspension of 2 other officers in another police department, who have NOT been fired.
  So are they getting paid vacation? >
  
  From the AP coverage (emphasis mine)
  
  [Memphis police spokeswoman Karen] Rudolph said information on disciplinary action taken against Hemphill was not immediately released because Hemphill was not fired and the department typically releases information about officers who are relieved of duty after an investigation ends. >
  
  Ah thanks! I misread that the first time I checked AP that and thought they had changed his status from not fired to fired, which is why they were releasing the info.
  Clearly I read it wrong and they are just breaking from their usual protocol by releasing information about this particular officer who is under investigation, but he hasn’t been fired. >
  
  Anyone who was there and didn't do anything should, at a minimum, lose their jobs.
  ETA:. By didn't do anything, I meant didn't do anything to help Tyre. >
  
  This guy participated in the illegal pullover, and a tasing, so not exactly “nothing”. >
  
  So much this.  If the five officers at the second scene could be charged with kidnapping (because it was illegal to detain Tyre in the first place), seems to me like this guy and everyone at the first scene should be similarly charged too. >
  
  And the ruling class is pushing through the cop city project in Atlanta so there will be more of these terrorists. >
  
  Any officer that was on the scene needs to be fired, arrested, and charged. None of them stepped up to do even the bare minimum, so they should all share in the culpability. 
  Also I think there needs to be some scrutiny of the police chief here as well. >
  
  He was at the first scene but not at the second. >
  
  Wouldn't that make him still guilty of kidnapping if the entire stop was considered to be illegal? >
  
  False arrest would be the tort. Not sure if it’s even a crime. >
  
  No it’s kidnapping, the first spot was considered acting outside of police duties so the 5 were charged with kidnapping at the first scene >
  
  One Law for the Police, another for Citizens. If any Citizen had done this, they'd be locked up and gaoled! American is so hypocritical. Obey our laws, but not if you're a Cop! >
  
  Why is a police unit named after a scorpion? >
  
  Simple.. take an intimidating word, and sprinkle unicorn farts on it, and you get "Street Crimes Operation to Restore Peace in Our Neighborhoods"
  Before I have to edit this post, yes, that is what they actually called it. >
  
  "And what does that mean to you?"
  "It means someone really wanted our initials to spell out "Scorpion" >
  
  They name their shit the same way the Kids Next Door did. >
  
  Okay, I counted at least 8 in that video. Not going to be an acceptable outcome until all have been charged. Including the EMT's. >
  
  The thing is, police often have control of the scene. 
  Police have arrested firefighters, EMTs, nurses, and basically anyone who doesn’t go along with them in the heat of the moment- there is no part of their training where they are taught to say “I was wrong, you are right”. 
  EMTs usually make close to minimum wage (and only make a reasonable wage due to overtime). They usually don’t have anything resembling job security other than the fact that their line of work has a lot of turnover. 
  Expecting the EMTs not to defer to the police is unrealistic- there’s a massive power imbalance between them and even groups with significantly more power haven’t regularly told police to get bent. >
  
  Police might have control of the scene but EMTs are still able bodied adults who can, at the very least, demand the officers give them access to the injured person. They helped him sit up a couple of times but didn't give him actual medical attention for over 15 minutes. Any half-decent person would have been outraged by what the cops had done and at least tried to help. It's so tiresome hearing people say "Well what can you do? Police are in charge." Where's their outrage or humanity? Be an adult. Be a decent person. It isn't difficult. >
  
  The EMTs were prevented from doing their jobs by violent thugs (cops) actively beating a man to death and armed to the teeth. You could pull their license but that would only give a wrongly termination suit as in no logical situation could they or anyone do something vs such dangerous armed folks. Make police accountable and chargeable, don't charge your medics for refusing to stand up to folks they just saw murder a perosn. >
  
  They were not prevented access when the patient was sitting against the car and they were standing in front of him. They had a duty to act and they didn’t. >
  
  They've been suspended, and an investigation is underway >
  
  As it should be.  And, if justice is served, they go to prison along with the officers. >
  
  Agreed, unless the cops threatened them. Based on what those cops did, that's not out of the question. The cops wanted him to die! >
  
  White, black, brown... All I see when I look at these cops are a bunch of deranged monsters who should never see the light of day, and who should NEVER have been given a badge and a gun in the first place.
  We need extreme police reform yesterday including initial and constant mental health screenings. In fact, put a masked, independent third-party conduct reviewer in every single police car as far as I am concerned. >
  
  Seven now, according to CNN. >
  
  This is such a fucked up case >
  
  Now 3 EMT workers have also been fired . >
  
  Why isn't such a swift response always the case? This should be the way things are done every time there's video capturing the heinous crimes, yet typically they get to go on paid leave or just leave but while still technically being on the force. >
  
  The department knew that pole camera caught the beating. My guess, they wanted to get ahead of any breaking news so it doesnt seem like they're dragging their feet or sweeping things under the rug. They have nothing to spin that can make this look good in their favor, so the thin blue line decided its not so blue in this case. >
  
  
  As for more criminal counts, “we are going to need time to allow the investigation to go forward and further consideration of charges,” Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy told CNN on Sunday. It was “unprecedented” for indictment charges against the officers to come within just weeks, he noted.
  
  "unprecedented" for police to be held accountable within a few weeks of their crimes. Can't believe people can just say these things without realizing how horrible it sounds. >
  
  I feel like the fact that this is so unprecedented is exactly why they felt so comfortable doing it all on camera >
  
  Here is my dilemma. When these things 
  happen the police blow back is unbelievable. In my small town, the police departments start the Defund the police lie” every time!!! We have tried to get them sensitivity training, social services,
  even laptops that will tell them specifically what to do when a person has a mental break or a psychotic episode, and they 
  reject Everything and come up with the DEFUND lie over and over again.  Extreme frustration at the local level. I’m  sorry but the the police ARE the problem and won’t accept help. >
  
  We can't let them get away with this, I hope you keep trying to enact change and fight the lies. >
  
  Just the name that the department chose for this program shows a weird mindset. Scorpion.  Doesn't really bring up thoughts of peace and security. >
  
  The second I heard about this 'Scorpion' unit, I immediately thought of The Shield.
  Weren't they called Strike Force or something? In any case -- I have a feeling they act exactly as the Unit in The Shield , which is just sickening. >
  
  A 6th? Good start, but try "every living person who appears in the released video." >
  
  The EMT staff who came to the scene along with the driver - have also been fired