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  Y'all are fucking cracking me up acting like the USA having a technological hegemony is a good thing. Literally on the floor laughing.
  
  ...In the relations among the social classes of a society, the term hegemony describes the ... dominance of a ruling class, which compels the subordination of the other social classes.
  
  Source Wikipedia, also just generally knowing words.  
  China is accusing the USA of using technology to subordinate their citizens.  And as y'all said, "We don't want it, we have it."
context: Correction “Washington has had technological hegemony for years. China big mad they won’t share.” >
  
  USA outsources majority of microchip manufacturing to TSMC 
  China eyes Taiwan enviously >
  
  Which is also why they stepped up their rhetoric about "regaining" Taiwan. 
  If they take TSMC, then they effectively has a leverage over the global economy that they can politically utilize.
  They are more likely to destroy TSMC in the process. Which is still not too bad because it would force shifting to China for alternatives, such as they are. It would also cause a major depression in global economy as supply chains collapse but China is willing to risk that (maybe).
  As long as TSMC remains free (under US protection), the current status quo is in effect. >
  
  Pretty sure America isn't willing, which is why we've partnered closer with Taiwan. Any move against Taiwan will trigger a response from America, Japan and S. Korea. Which would fuck the world economy even more. >
  
  There’s a reason TSMC is opening a chip fab in Arizona. 
  The reason that Taiwan is important is more because of their location. Japan and Korea contain the North China sea, the Ryukyu islands contain the East China Sea, and Indonesia and Malaysia contain the South China Sea and the Straight of Malacca. 
  All of them are US Allies. Right in the center of all of that is Taiwan; which protects the biggest water gap in the China Seas. This defensive perimeter effectively contains China militarily within its waters. Subs can’t pass though Non-international water into the Pacific with this perimeter.
  It becomes a significantly larger problem containing China without any of these key locations. With them, China could be effectively blockaded. Without Taiwan, it becomes virtually impossible. If China is able to escape this perimeter in any meaningful way, the risk is the capability of medium/short range missile strikes directly on US soil from submarines. >
  
  Island Chain Theory.
  Western doctrine has mostly abandoned the idea, but I believe it's still huge in Chinese strategic thinking. >
  
  It’s still the going theory it. Naval warfare has always been about access to land and denying your enemy. Missiles aircraft and CIWS/Iron Dome have only made this more true. >
  
  
  Naval warfare has always been about ...
  
  Yeah, and if we were at war or nearing a state of war with China, then setting up bases on those islands to help reinforce a naval blockade is absolutely something we might try to persuade those countries to let us do.
  But we're not at war, and we're certainly not trying to start one by doing anything as provocative as trying to impede China's access to the Pacific Ocean or (militarily) laying the groundwork to impede it in the future.   
  Which is why I said Island Chain Strategy isn't really something the west is pursuing, or even considering now that the Cold War is over, but the possibility is still quite dominant in Chinese thinking.
  Instead, we're just trying to cultivate influence in the region and building better and better navies, sonar nets, submarines, ASW, etc. so we can blockade China purely from sea-based assets if we have to. >
  
  
  Island Chain Strategy isn’t really something the West is pursuing 
  
  Not exactly. There’s a major forward sub base in Guam, and a major airbase on Okinawa (and a couple on the Japanese main islands + S. Korea).  These bases have the First Island Chain pretty well covered within their AOR, and more sub bases in Hawaii and the US West Coast can provide fairly rapid backup when needed, arriving in time to relieve the Guam-based assets after a tour in the area. Any of those subs can make port and receive supplies and service from existing naval supply depots in Okinawa, Sasebo, Yokosuka, Busan, Subic Bay, and Singapore, and probably a couple other locations I’m not thinking of, plus a dozen smaller ports where the US has standing agreements for port visits and purchase of supplies. 
  There are also air bases, Marines and Soldiers all over Japan and S. Korea as well as plenty of surface ships in Sasebo and Yokosuka.  Oh, and Australia isn’t too far away either, and easily covers the southern flank along Indonesia. 
  The US and it’s allies are certainly going to be very familiar with all the various routes through the islands, and can almost certainly provide choke point coverage within a few days if needed. There’s no need for a string of bases on the islands themselves. >
  
  The new US doctrine call for fire teams that can fire long range missiles then move. US and Japan are building high secured storage bunker  for these missles in these island. When war break out, fire team will be transport in, fire the missles then move to the next location. This make it difficult for China to take out US assets. >
  
  They give Washington way too much credit.
  See any congressional hearing on technology. >
  
  If anything, Washington deserves credit for Chinese success. They made a deal with megacorps to export our manufacturing industry and rot our country from the inside out. >
  
  But weren't we forced to make this deal? Asian markets started selling PCs in the US with much of the same functionality and yet thousands of dollars left. Companies had no choice but to use the same labour in Asian markets just to compete. >
  
  No, not forced.
  The other option was a trade war that added a tax on imports from any country that didn't meet specific standards on worker rights and pay.
  But that would hurt profits. >
  
  Yes this is how geopolitics works. You try to maintain advantages over your adversaries. China is bipolar af bouncing between saber rattling and accusing the US of being meanies 🥺 >
  
  This is also how nationalism works. You accuse other countries of being evil while pretending you are not doing anything wrong >
  
  Even better when you have an effective stick against domestic media. A language barrier against foreign media helps too. >
  
  The west should be thankful most chinese don't speak English. All the "fuck china" comments and inflammatory headlines over here will only make the chinese more nationalistic. >
  
  There are plenty of Chinese citizens that say fuck China. >
  
  People who can't separate a country's name and a country's government are either morons or being intentionally inflammatory. >
  
  But CCP is China. Saying CCP bad mean China bad. 
  U cant get out of this loophole. >
  
  Mentally dense teenagers are bad at realizing things. >
  
  And china doesn’t? >
  
  Not yet, but they want it.  The US has plenty of faults, but anyone who thinks that a China-dominated world would be better has to be nuts. >
  
  Disagree. I don't see a problem with a hyper nationalist authoritarian surveillance state being the world superpower. >
  
  The lack of a “/s” here actually makes it impossible to tell if you’re serious or not these days. >
  
  Lol, what I hear is:
  “China frustrated they cannot rip themselves off into technical advantage. Unable to comprehend why doing your own R&D would translate to a constant advantage in the field you research.” >
  
  I mean, if you didn't keep stealing IP's and didnt partake in unfair trading practices this wouldn't be a problem now would it? >
  
  Stealing IP is not the actual issue. The two main points of contention are with Huawei which is seen as a security risk and with ASML, a Dutch company that produces the most advanced chip-making machines and that is not allowed to export them to China. To a lesser degree the success of Tiktok is also seen as highly problematic. >
  
  They all stem from the same root cause though. Which is that China's ruling class sees the concept of rule of law as a threat to their power. Or, as China's chief justice put it, the rule of law is "a mistaken Western concept fundamentally incompatible with PRC culture."
  In their minds stealing is a noble act. Whether it's people's private data through TikTok, IP from foreign investors, or machines from ASML, is all the same. Steal from others to fuel the CCP. >
  
  It's not an East vs West issue nor is it considered noble, regardless of the BS claimed by the Chinese government. Chinese steal from each other constantly. You also see the phenomenon throughout Asia, although not nearly to the same extent.
  There are so many facets to it, from educational down to simple pragmatism. Iteration also comes into play. I mean, look at the sheer volume of derivative anime out there. And yet, a lot of it still manages to place an interesting spin on tired tropes.
  The distinction with China is that they actually believed they could copy their way to superpower status. >
  
  
  The distinction with China is that they actually believed they could copy their way to superpower status.
  
  It worked for the US so why wouldn't they? >
  
  If you think that’s how the US achieved its status then I don’t know what to tell you. 
  Immigration is a massively important factor, one which China has actively opposed. Unfortunately, the Chinese government has an irrational fixation on advancements being homegrown. So without that or a multigenerational legacy in tech their only recourse is to copy. >
  
  
  If you think that’s how the US achieved its status then I don’t know what to tell you. 
  
  Read some history..
  According to historian Doron Ben-Atar, in his book, Trade Secrets, “the United States emerged as the world's industrial leader by illicitly appropriating mechanical and scientific innovations from Europe.”
  Plenty of sources out there to confirm that it was an established policy and not something just done by a few individuals. >
  
  We dont "want" it. We HAVE it. And there's not a single thing China can do about it >
  
  I don't know why you're being downvoted. Hubris is the downfall of power. I agree, there's a lot China could do to catch up if they put more money into things. They're already doing moon landings and they have a ton of tech and they're EXCELLENT at stealing tech.
  It's a LOT easier to catch up than it is to pioneer. You know what the end result looks like and where to put your R&D and what hasn't worked out for other counties so you know where to save your money and time. 
  If this sounds pro CCP than people are in real denial about how fast things can change in the world. This is a warning, not propaganda. >
  
  If you have seen recent china and the state of the CCP, you would know why this is not going to happen. It would take a generation of change to make them able to operate as effectively and with competitive R&D. 
  China is going to moan because they want Taiwan and its semiconductor chip manufacturers. And it can't have it, so they moan louder. >
  
  
  It would take a generation of change to make them able to operate as effectively and with competitive R&D. 
  
  The generation is happening right now, that's why the u.s is acting tougher with the Chips ban. 
  Realistically, in the short term it will hit China but according to most experts it will just slow their progress until they get less reliant on the u.s. >
  
  Yeah, but they don’t have much time if the goal is to challenge the US. By the time they are even close to catching up, their population bubble will be exploding, and they’ll have domestic issues to worry about. >
  
  The population bubble will take multiple decades before exploding. Multiple countries in Western or Eastern Europe or East Asia have an equal or worst demographic and they don't have a population of 1 billion to compensate. >
  
  This is entirely untrue. Look at a population pyramid. A significant portion of the Chinese population is approaching retirement age now and will soon be out of the workforce. 
  Yes, some countries in Europe are in a similar predicament, but no European country has the same gender skewness that China is grappling with due to their one-child policy. This goes without saying that the US still has a comparatively healthy population pyramid. 
  It will not take multiple decades for this to become an issue for China. A population of 1 billion is a liability, not an asset, if a significant portion of people cannot work, and the gender skewness affects replenishment. >
  
  I think Covid may have an unpredictable affect on Chinese population concerns, sure it may lower there elderly population, but does having a younger population change political stability? >
  
  I accuse China of wanting technological assistance only to bring war against the West.
  We should not kid ourselves that dictators will choose peace and properity over domination, even at the expense of their own citizens. >
  
  China doesn't want to bring war against the West. China wants to sell more and higher value products to the West. >
  
  Xi wants to invade Taiwan. That’s war against the west. >
  
  Ok ok. You have a point. >
  
  Pretty much all of this stems from that single point of contention. You can't publicly express bringing in Taiwan by force and then expect the nations that rely on trade with Taiwan to sit idly by and supply you the means to do so. >
  
  Says the country trying to prevent all rare earth metals from reaching the US. >
  
  Which is another example of shooting themselves in the foot. The main reason they dominated the industry was because it was dirty, relatively new (at scale) and so no one invested in tech and regulation to make it affordable/clean. Not because it's rare. Many rare earths are in fact have more mass in the earth crust than every-day minerals like tin. The issue was getting them.
  Well, in the last few years there has been an explosion of tech and extraction from Europe to North America to China to South America. Canada is opening up massive new mines, same with the nordic countries/ greenland. China's monopoly is coming to a crashing end. >
  
  More importantly, restricting the flow of minerals has simply kicked off massive research efforts into alternate chemistries for magnets, batteries, etc.
  There will be a flood of non-rare-earth solutions for these problems over the next few years. >
  
  Which is a win for everyone! Curious to learn more about these. >
  
  Wasn't there a movement to convert nuclear waste into batteries for medical implants and stuff? >
  
  Bit of a different area, tbh. >
  
  In all honesty, I have no idea what took the US this long. Should have been done at least a decade or two ago. >
  
  As somebody who makes US tech, chinese tech can suck it. That's all. >
  
  Go shove it China. >
  
  They need a thesaurus. Anytime I read phrases like “hegemony” or “vassal state(s)” I know right away that I’m looking at CCP propaganda. >
  
  I mean, that’s exactly what the USA did for the entire post WW2 era though. We didn’t directly take any land except Hawaii and Alaska, even though we could have conquered more.
  But we set up puppet governments and power plays all around the world to get countries to bend to our will. 
  Quite literally a hegemony with vassal states. >
  
  To be fair we bought Alaska in the 1860s and the annexation of Hawaii was a drawn-out process that began as a successional conflict in the 1880s, but with full US sovereignty over the island from the late 1890s. Statehood occurred post-1945 but that's different from sovereignty. >
  
  There was a successional conflict that US and British businesses took advantage of to destabilize the monarchy and replace it with US sovereignty. The original successional conflict was a local political issue and was itself already quite bloody when the US and UK got involved. UK and US involvement was definitely violent and colonialist but they did not simply impose conflict on a peaceful country.
  Regardless, my point in stating this in the way I did is that the colonial violence associated with US annexation of Hawaii happened 60 years prior to Hawaii's statehood in the 50s. The US didn't invade and conquer Hawaii in the 1950s, just like it would not be an armed invasion if Puerto Rico statehood is passed in the next few years. This is fundamentally different from the sort of conquest that countries like Russia and China have been engaged in or intend to engage in to expand their borders. >
  
  
  The original successional conflict was a local political issue and was itself already quite bloody when the US and UK got involved. UK and US involvement was definitely violent and colonialist but they did not simply impose conflict on a peaceful country.
  
  I love it when someone actually knows history. >
  
  Thanks. I'm a pretty strong anticolonialist but you have to understand the actual events that occurred if you want to understand how to undo historical harm and injustice. >
  
  This comes a day after news that China is considering limiting solar PV exports to maintain their 'technological hegemony' >
  
  This reminds me of when the other day Russia accused America of getting involved in the Ukraine War. Yeah bro, no shit. Congratulations on successfully interpreting the wide open and completely unhidden actions of the US. The US does in fact want to make life miserable for brutal, aggressive, and expansionistic authoritarian cult of personality dictatorships. >
  
  Nobody is stopping China from developing their own tech. All we are stopping is China from using/stealing US tech. >
  
  Which they've been doing for far too long now everyone knows >
  
  Translation:  How dare the west charge China to license technology it develops through its own creativity and hard work.  How dare it stop letting us steal it and use it against them. >
  
  Ah yes, 'hegemony', that word some governments use to encompass things they desperately want to control but can't due to own incompetence. >
  
  Well..duh >
  
  God I hate China so fucking much >
  
  Lol then why did they recently insist on making all of our tech guys working over there choose between their American citizenship and their jobs? >
  
  Yes, and? >
  
  "China accuses Washington of wanting 'technological hegemony'"
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  Ummm, yes, and? >
  
  We don't make the machines needed to make chips. The Netherlands does. We don't make the lenses those machines need. Germany does. 
  This isn't the US having a hegemony. This is China alienating everyone. >
  
  Meanwhile, they’ve infected half the US’s citizens with a malware app disguised as a social media platform. >
  
  As opposed to allowing China to wanting technological hegemony? >
  
  Get to innovating, Chinese bros, if you want to reap the rewards. Stop copying our homework and think you are learning. >
  
  Yeah! Give chinese spyware a fair chance! Whinnie the pooh needs a break! >
  
  We don't want Washington technological hegemony. There are many crucial suppliers engaged in China chip embargo like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea or Netherlands. So it will rather be liberal democracy technological hegemony which I think is very good. >
  
  I am EU citizen and I fully agree with all anti authoritarian embargoes on all crucial technologies which make us superior over them. >
  
  A political realist? So nice to meet another! >
  
  The increasing difficulty of intellectual property theft started to bother them? ;) >
  
  is it harder? I was guessing they simply started to realize that it's simply not effective, at least to achieve superiority. >
  
  China's entire rise as a technological powerhouse has been predicated on the free exchange of investment and technology from the US. What China couldn't get legally, they got through espionage. The US has, in good faith, allowed China to develop in parallel with the US. The US has had very few restrictions of any kind when it comes to the transfer of American technology to China. Meanwhile China closely guards its own secrets. China took advantage of this lopsided relationship. Every edge this gave them emboldened China and increased, rather than decreased, their authoritarianism and aggression.
  China has very expertly used our own naivety against us. They never played by the same rules we played by. We allowed them nearly unfettered access to our technology and our market, while they used protectionism at every opportunity. Any US company that operated in China was forced to pay a cost of entry that allowed the Chinese competitors to siphon technology and create copycat products. Every single technology that could be even tangential weaponized by China, was. All of the top-end Chinese military items to be developed in recent years were based on technology stolen from the US. Every single nuclear warhead in the Chinese arsenal is a copy of American nuclear weapons. We barely even guarded our nuclear secrets against China.
  China is sad that the gravy train might finally end and they won't be able to use our own technology against us anymore. >
  
  Yeah, China played the game perfectly. It was not only the US tho, every single country took advantage of China cheap manufactury, hell most African countries were richer than China in 1980.
  They used every single inch to develop and now things have turn very interestingly. Obviously this is easier said than done, so I got to give props to them. >
  
  China blocks most American sites doesn’t it? And from what I’ve heard most Chinese tech comes from stolen/borrowed American IP >
  
  If the shoe was on the other foot would it really be any different? >
  
  It's not because America actually invents stuff. >
  
  I think my phrase was a little ambiguous. I was insinuating that if the roles were reversed, China would most definitely be doing what they are accusing the US of doing. >
  
  I'm not generally a fan of protectionism.  I think it hurts everyone.  BUT China is and always has been highly protectionist in their own ways, and has never been a good place for outsiders to do business in, so why should the United States be to them? If China wants to be a good place to do business in we can talk. >
  
  Do you even know how protectionist America is? They lost so many trade disputes in WTO they had to stop naming new judges so none of their disputes can be ruled in other countries favor.
  On the other hand your protectionist China won more cases against US in WTO. Let that sink for a moment. >
  
  Ruff Ruff. Here goes the barking again >
  
  And China wants world domination without opposition… >
  
  ...says country that constantly steals intellectual property and ignores all copyrights. >
  
  This remind me of an old newspaper report from one of ccp’s propaganda machine before and after China got its own nuclear weapon.
  Before: nuclear weapon should not only be controlled by few superpowers!
  After: nuclear weapon must be controlled and not allow others to have it!
  Ccp is never truly against any kind of hegemony, CCP is just against that the hegemony is not CCP. >
  
  In other words, China’s mad that there’s technology that they can’t steal. And after wasting hundreds of billions trying to make their own, they failed miserably. Now they’re down to their last resort. Whining. >
  
  I learnt a new word today >
  
  Which one? Was it “Hypocrisy”? Cause China gives a Master Class in it. >
  
  Yah what’s new? >
  
  Treat people like shit then cry when they respond. >
  
  Literally every country would like to have technological hegemony. >
  
  China is not happy that the US are going after their spies >
  
  Why would a country not want that lol? >
  
  Whenever someone accusingly points, they have one finger doing the accusing, but three pointing right back at themselves. What I'm saying is this. We all manage to be guilty of crimes we point out in others. The crimes are usually three-fold. In this case, China doth protest too much. >
  
  Well.. duh. 
  It’s exactly the same thing that China wants. >
  
  China big mad they won't share for free. How about we call this even for all the shit they've stolen. >
  
  That’s pretty rich coming from China >
  
  China: wait we haven't stolen that tech yet, you can't take it away from us until we do. >
  
  “Let us keep stealing your shit or your mean :(“ >
  
  I mean... yes? This isn't an accusation so much as a statement of known fact. That's the plan. Lmao >
  
  Wanting? Haven't they had that for like 70 years or something? >
  
  It's not that we want to be in control... It's just that we don't want China to be in control. >
  
  China needs to spend more money on r & d … stop stealing! >
  
  Because China never acts, to the exclusion of all else, in its own best interests? Because when another country does it, it’s somehow bad? But when China does it, it’s fine? >
  
  That’s fucking rich coming from the thieves who’ve benefitted from a parasitic relationship to US tech for decades. >
  
  Here's a hint China; if you're dependent on the US, don't start grandstanding like you're the new big boy on the block. The US was happy to play nice until China started eyeing Taiwan. >
  
  That is rich from a country which literally stole any technology it could get thier hands on, while inventing next to zero. >
  
  In all seriousness though, FUCK CHINA >
  
  Dear Huawei, first pay your share and then complain. >
  
  Maybe China should develop their own tech instead, you know, stealing it. >
  
  It’s called reaping the benefits of actually investing, inventing and inventing instead of just ripping shit off. >
  
  "You mean we can't just get all the IP for free tomorrow?" >
  
  And.... >
  
  Two things can be true:
  Washington wants technological hegemony
  And
  The world should be united in keeping the CCP away from advanced technology, especially AI. >
  
  If they hadn’t used American designed microchips that were made in Taiwan to make intercontinental nuclear missiles America wouldn’t have cut them off from American designed microchips and other advanced technology.  American companies have been forbidden to sell high tech products, especially microchips to China. This is what they are complaining about. >
  
  Using American tech to make things that can nuke America will get you cut off. Who would have thought? American tech companies will lose hundreds of millions of dollars of business but the government is giving them as much as they are losing to start up microchip factories on American soil. Just one more thing that should never be outsourced to a foreign country. And as soon as the US can make enough microchips of its own they will likely stop protecting Taiwan. China is waiting for that day. >
  
  Create your own shit.  Problem solved.
  As far as blocking Huawei goes, I mean look, we are in a cold war with the CCP.  The CCP has known this for decades, but we've now realized it as well.  It is what it is.
  Xi acted aggressively too soon.  They should have waited another decade. >
  
  U.S.: “Why mad? You’ll just steal our best commercial technology anyway”. >
  
  Or maybe we just don't want to be dependent on communist adversaries? >
  
  China is not communist lol. They’re an authoritarian state controlled mixed market economy. There’s way too much private enterprise/market economy aspects for it to be considered communist. They haven’t been commies for a long time. >
  
  The Chinese government is Unitary Marxist–Leninist One-Party Socialist Republic. AKA Communist.
  Or as the CIA World Factbook calls it:
  Communist Party-led State
  Feel free to cite more authoritative sources that disagree. >
  
  It gives that appearance, but people are allowed to be involved in it until the government decides they can't. Then they get locked away or put under house arrest and the government reallocates their business to someone else or just takes ownership.
  It's not a market economy. It's the illusion of one. >
  
  It’s definitely ultimately state controlled but it’s still a mixed market economy by definition. Again, state controlled/ authoritarian doesn’t equal communism. >
  
  “China is gravely concerned about the reports,” said a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Mao Ning. She accused Washington of “over-stretching the concept of national security and abusing state power” to suppress Chinese competitors.
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  ...now that's funny.
  China has been a bad actor on the tech stage since there was a tech stage >
  
  State power of US, like state powers of PRC, are to enhance lives of Americans. If that hurts PRC feelings, so much the better. >
  
  Plenty of other world partners respect IP and Trademarks.  If China wants to be top of the list of Worst Trade Partner Ever - they are going to get froze out.  Thems the breaks. >
  
  And? China has a problem with that? Go pound sand and develop your own. >
  
  Thats what China gets for not liberalizing. Authoritarian hellholes tend to greatly suffer from the lack of innovation. >
  
  Yes, and China doesn't? Between them and Russia there's a lot of stating the fucking obvious happening lately. >
  
  We reached out for the official Washington response, the response that came from the White house read as: "Well, duh..." >
  
  Huawei is China CCCP, period. There is no distinction between Chinese corporation and Chinese government. >
  
  And China wants to play nice? They are known for many acts of industrial espionage. >
  
  What is I.P theft for $500 Alex? >
  
  Nope, they just don't want to allow access to a hostile government. >
  
  China already got the organ-harvest-genocide-hegemony going strong so maybe they'll be okay. >
  
  Crying soyjak (it’s China): noooo you want technological hegemony
  Chad blond beard (it’s USA): yes >
  
  ChadYes.jpg >
  
  China wish they could do the same, but cannot yet because they haven’t stolen or bought it out yet >
  
  If China was really concerned about this they would create a firewall between their corporate entities and the government so other countries wouldn't have to worry about spyware or the creep of the Chinese government into said countries infrastructure.  This being said we know the current regime and their philosophy of government will not allow this happen anytime soon because the things we fear are likely the things that they want. >
  
  Welp, better us than them >
  
  China reminds me of the kid in class who spent all semester copying other people's problems sets and at the end has understanding of the subject and fails the exam. >
  
  China has systematically disregarded IP and patents from every industrialized nation for the last 30 years. >
  
  I wish more countries did it tbh.
  The US did the same when it was just starting, and the UK was bitching about it too >
  
  They aren't wrong but also, fuck China. >
  
  That's a fair assessment. 
  Its also reasonable that the USA does whatever it can to prevent (or at the very least delay in some measure) getting steamrolled economically by China over the comings years and decades. >
  
  China’s economy ain’t stream rolling nobody in the coming decades. >
  
  Yeah, and? >
  
  No, just no more state-sponsored corporate espionage would be grrrrreat thanks. >
  
  China only needs to steal technology from one country then? >
  
  China should shut its big pie hole!! 🥧 >
  
  If you aren't playing nice and using our own inventions and technologies to destroy us, then this is a fair approach.  We pull back.  It was Japan last time with electronics and cars.  We pulled back, and the USA continues to innovate and iterate.  You play nice or FAFO. >
  
  This is like taking a toy away from a misbehaving child and them throwing a trmper tantrum >
  
  China: "Nine-dash line is exclusively China and we will vigorously defend our sovereignty."
  Most of the World: "Fuck you China, I'm taking my toys and going home."
  China: "Why no like to play Risk video game anymore?" >
  
  Wow… admitting that the west is technologically superior and crying about it? China lost some credibility there in my mind >
  
  If China wanted to be technologically superior why don't they just stop making stupid decisions every chance they get?