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  Where are you getting these numbers from?  According to my research, there are about 7,700 hundred homeless people in San Francisco in 2022.  If they were spending $1 million per person, they'd be spending $7.7 billion each year on homelessness.  This number seems high for a city that has a $14 billion budget.  
  To your point though, it's fair to say that governments might be doing more than I thought.  I will research more.
context: Ima have to agree with this, some places definitely do a better place than others, my buddy once had an emergency and we were next to a subway and they held him up and said he couldn’t use the restroom unless he was a customer so he had to buy a cookie… >
  
  Yeah, that’s just so morally wrong. >
  
  But why? They need to be cleaned afterwards >
  
  That's incorrect. They are scheduled to be cleaned at certain times. That cleaning will happen regardless of whether or not that specific person uses it. So it's not causing any extra cleaning.
  Unless you are claiming that where you live they go and clean them after every single person who uses them? >
  
  Okay than… water use and toilet paper use, maybe the trashcan is getting used. All of that causes extra money >
  
  Only toilet paper use in some situations. And even when relevant, it wouldn't even be a pennies worth.
  Minimal water use.
  Incorrect again about the trash can. A bin being used by 1 additional person does not cost extra money. Again, like the cleaning, the bins will be emptied and collected regardless. The only argument you have here is if literally thousands of non-customers are using the facilities every day. And that just isn't realistic.
  If a company is going to stop someone who needs the toilet from going because it might cost them 1p (or 1c or whatever currency) then it isn't logic dictating that choice, and they shouldn't be defended for it. >
  
  You don’t use toilet paper every time?! >
  
  I'm a guy, so no, not if I'm peeing. Same as every other guy. >
  
  You still should use toilet paper to get rid of little drops 🤷🏾‍♀️ >
  
  What makes you think that? I've never heard of that or seen anyone doing it. And at urinals they don't provide toilet paper for you to do it. >
  
  There used to be better access to washrooms but you can thank the druggies, and sex perverts for their demise. >
  
  This would generally lead to spending a lot of money to have bathrooms built that ended up being too damaged and dirty for most people to use. >
  
  Then they should be cleaned and repaired. We can get the money for it >
  
  Would you want to clean them? >
  
  If I was paid enough yeah >
  
  Youd be the one  whos paying yourself....... bcuz your the taxpayer.
  Whats your next genius move? raise the minimum wage to $500 an hour so we can all be rich? brilliant!
  Man I swear some people just dont get it and never will >
  
  So every government employee doesn’t “get it”? Or do YOU not “get it”? Or are you just trolling? >
  
  As someone with IBS-D,  I’ve wondered why there aren’t more rest areas or just public restrooms in general. Especially since Covid and fast food places going drive thru only and gas stations don’t always have bathrooms, sometimes it’s a really big struggle for me. I’ve never had an accident but it’s stressful when I’m out and can’t find a public bathroom. >
  
  Yeah I was going to include the Covid bit here but it got automoderated for having the word Covid. 
  The amount of washrooms closed during Covid was a catastrophe for garbagemen, delivery drivers, and of course people with IBS. it was just plain discriminatory at that point you know? It’s like people don’t have empathy for others if it pertains to washroom issues. People here comment stuff like “why not just hold it until you get home” >
  
  Uhh they would be disgusting. The homeless people would most likely sleep in them and they would smell horribly >
  
  … then the homeless should have somewhere else to sleep >
  
  Why do think they're called "homeless" in the first place? >
  
  I think they mean homeless shelters should be more prominent.  Homelessness is a problem that is routinely pushed to the side instead of being remedied, i.e governments put stuff out to keep homeless people away (obstructions on benches to stop them from sleeping) rather than help them find somewhere to go. >
  
  Do some reading on why the homelessness problem is so difficult to solve. It’s not just building people houses. >
  
  Wasn't proposing there is a magical simple fix, I'm saying governments are barely doing anything to try and are actively making their lives worse. >
  
  Cities are spending literal billions of dollars every year trying to help the homeless. San Francisco spends over a million dollars a year on every single homeless person living there.
  Don’t let compassion get in the way of better judgement. The lengths this country goes to in order to help the homeless is insane. Yet people see benches designed to stop homeless people from sleeping on them and think that the city they’re in is actively trying to screw them over when they’re just trying to stop them from ruining the commons area.