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  A couple things, my point was the police did not stand w a white cop in 2020. He was condemned by their national police union, which was unprecedented. This case, the locals pushed a narrative of a combative, uncooperative suspect who had drugs in his system. Also, the bystander video of this case was available in the same time frame, and much more brutal than Mr Floyd’s case, but because not everyone was forced to sit at home due to a pandemic we didn’t all see it at once. 
  This reaction also doesn’t take into account the national media attention.
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  I haven't really kept up with this story, but as I understand it there are 2 big differences here.
  First is a matter of timing. Most COVID lockdowns are done, so while Floyd's death happened at a time where a lot of people had a lot of time on their hands, Nichol's death happened when people are mostly busy with work.
  Second, (if I am getting the facts correct here), the officers involved in Nichol's death were arrested before the story got large coverage, which means there is less to protest about. >
  
  Exactly. Much of the Floyd protests were due to the fact that the cops tired to sweep it under the rug, calling his death a “medical event” in official communication. It wasn’t until a teenager released her personal recording that we realized what happened and saw the attempt to cover it up. 
  Contrast this event, where there was no cover up and the police force acted swiftly to deal with the problematic cops. The video was released by the police themselves after disciplinary action was already taken. 
  This event is the system for punishing bad police working as it should. >
  
  How long until that video was released? >
  
  A couple of weeks. 
  Keep in mind though that in that time, the cops were fired, the DA started the process to charger them with murder and their unit was disbanded. 
  The protests were a desire for accountability. Accountability was already happening when the video was released. >
  
  It could be argued that it only happened this expeditiously because the cops are black this time. Which kind of aligns with the CMV. >
  
  Perhaps. 
  Or perhaps they saw what happened after Floyd and realized that they had to do something fast to prevent riots. 
  We have no way to know. >
  
  If the situation is exactly the same but the cops were white do you think there would be louder protests or be the same? >
  
  Personally I think it would be the same. People weren't protesting nationally because Floyd was murdered. >
  
  I personally think the magnitude of the protests would go beyond the George Floyd protests >
  
  Okay. I don't agree. The national, summer long George Floyd protests weren't actually caused by his murder of even the attempted cover up. They caused by police response to the smaller scale peaceful protests. >
  
  A few other reasons to consider.
  
  
  With Floyd, the video came out from civilian sources immediately and was viral on social media immediately. The police were constantly playing catchup on the narrative, letting the protests build, rather than in this case where the video came out from official sources a week after the event. The Police were much more in control of the narrative for Nichols' murder.
  
  
  It's winter rather than summer. That makes a big difference for people's willingness to rally outside, especially in the northern US.
  
  
  Covid lockdowns and job loss was right before Floyd. People were already feeling trapped and restless and desperate at that time, the protests combined a lot of feeling that was not necessarily related to exact situation they were protesting. 
  
  
  This seems obvious but we already had the George Floyd protests. We did the whole thing already and it seems like nothing changed. We had a couple cities talk about defunding the police, then not really do anything. A lot of the public got burned out on protest, thinking it's not that effective. That energy from 2020 isn't there anymore. Maybe it just needs more time to build back up, but I very much believe that even if these officers were white it would not have caused anything like the Floyd protests. >
  
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  Good summaries. Do you also feel the race of Chauvin VS the black cops was a factor as well? >
  
  I think the race of the cops mattered for the police more than people who'd protest. The police stood by a white cop in 2020, but immediately the local police and national orgs condemned these black officers. You can't really protest anything when people are held accountable. The cops were arrested before the video was even released to the public.
  EDIT: Also there have been police murders besides these two and not all of them developed in a 2020 BLM scale protest. 2020 was a perfect storm of a lot of things happening for it to grow to the size it did >
  
  They police did not stand by Chauvin.  The national police union condemned his actions.  He was also arrested 4 days after killing Floyd while these 5 were free for 19 days. >
  
  The George Floyd videos came out instantly and we could all see the brutality that occurred in broad daylight with lots of witnesses.
  Tyre happened at night with almost no one else around. These cops filed false reports that supported their use of force and it took time for their stories to unravel. And only after their arrest the videos were released.