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  Probably some funky fresh amphetamine analogues from China.
context: Drugs. >
  
  I wonder if Ukraine is autopsying any of the opposing casualties to see if they were on something. >
  
  Probably not. Russian troops have put explosive traps on any corpse they find. >
  
  Really? >
  
  Oh yes, just one of many war crimes Russia has perpetrated. >
  
  Mostly they do that to Ukrainian corpses in occupied areas, ironically trying to cover up war crimes with more war crimes. >
  
  Staggering. >
  
  Foreigners,  convicts, mental patients, etc. They don't care how many die. >
  
  Best of all they’re private contractors! Easier for the Russian government to cover up their deaths. >
  
  And partly resolve overcrowding in jails >
  
  The upside for the prisoners still in Russia is they no longer need to sleep in shifts to have a bed. >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  A Ukrainian soldier compared fighting Russia's Wagner Group to something like a "Zombie movie." "They're climbing above the corpse of their friends, stepping on them," the soldier told CNN. He detailed an "Uninterrupted," 10-hour battle in which Russian mercenaries "Didn't stop coming."
  A Ukrainian soldier who recently had a run-in with a group of Wagner mercenaries said the fighters "Didn't stop coming" during a battle in Bakhmut, Ukraine.
  "We were fighting for about 10 hours in a row. And it wasn't like just waves - it was uninterrupted. So it was just like they didn't stop coming," the soldier, named Andriy, told CNN of fighting troops from the Wagner Group, a private military contractor linked to the Kremlin that consists of mercenaries and former prisoners.
  
  
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  Drugs are a hellova drug. Seems to be the only logical answer, we're in 2023 not 1940... I would think we value our lives a little more now instead of just walking into bullets knowingly >
  
  Russia >
  
  Well, at least the guys in front of you will just shoot you. They won't beat you to death with a hammer. >
  
  Or rape you. >
  
  Seems like the toughest, manliest guys in the world are sodomites. >
  
  I heard a stat recently that said the convicts Wagner recruited are being killed at a rate of 90%.  I was trying to figure out what tactics would result in 90% KIA.  This is it.  Just send the convicts (drugged up) right into the Ukrainian machine guns to be bullet sponges.
  Notice how by in this instance the tactic ALMOST worked.  The Ukrainian soldiers were all out of ammo.  Wagner just retreated a few minutes too early to get the win. >
  
  Standard Russian tactics, the man with the gun shoots while the man with the bullets follows. When the man with the gun dies, the man with the bullets picks up the gun and shoots >
  
  Source? And don't say "Enemy at the Gates" >
  
  Sounds like they are cutting Krokodil with Cocaine. >
  
  More like meth.. a dose of cocaine lasts about 15 minutes as opposed to meth lasting 15 hours, sometimes more, from a single dose. >
  
  But can a tweaker engage in a war battle? I have never seen a tweaker look too threatening. To me they look confused, jittery, appear to be squinting like they are looking into an illuminated light bulb, animated, and seem unsure of their balance. I imagine the Ukraine troops would have a very strong advantage over a Wagner Meth Mercenary. PCP is another story. >
  
  Blitzkrieg ran on tweakers. >
  
  The lesson was learnt pretty quickly though. They actually stopped issuing it regularly after 1941. Here's a quote from wiki - 
  A soldier going to battle on Pervitin usually found himself unable to perform effectively for the next day or two. Suffering from a drug hangover and looking more like a zombie than a great warrior, he had to recover from the side effects
  Though that said they did start experimenting again in 1944 with various combinations of meth, opiates like oxycodone, and cocaine. 
  Interestingly enough Hitler was also pumped full of this stuff (along with other wonderful things like mashed up pig glands as a hormone booster) pretty much for his entire career from 1933 to 1945. There's some thinking now a lot of the way he acted and a lot of the health issues he was starting to develop could just as much have been from the frequent drug abuse as the earlier thoughts that he was maybe starting to develop Parkinsons or some other neurodegenerative disorder. >
  
  The main difference here is Russia doesn’t really seem to care how effective they are long term or if they even live very long. >
  
  Russia is losing the bet that they have more soldiers than the Ukrainians have bullets. >
  
  The scene described is human wave tactics that take no account for lives of attacking soldiers.
  Lives are extremely cheap in Russian military.  Just infantry attack with no supporting artillery or tank support.  This tactics were also used extensively by Japanese army in WW II as "Banzai Charge."
  Russians have not learned their lessons from terrible loss of life during WW II. >
  
  
  This tactics were also used extensively by Japanese army in WW II as "Banzai Charge."
  
  Ehhhh... this one at least has a bit more history and nuance behind it.
  The Japanese Banzai Charge was based off of what worked in the Russo-Japanese war. Some old generals remembered those tactics and thought the same trick would work on the Americans.
  By 1944 to 1945, the Japanese learned that it didn't work on American positions and really stopped doing Banzai Charges. >
  
  Banzai charges were only really effective in China against poorly trained, led, motivated, and armed Chinese soldiers and in the pacific were only used against the Americans in desperate “were going to die anyways” gambits like last stands. >
  
  Yeah. 
  My overall point is that the Japanese Banzai charge has its history because it worked, at least against some of Japan's foes. But the minute it stopped working (ie: vs USA), the Japanese were pretty smart and changed tactics very quickly.
  
  Meanwhile, Soviet Russia in WW2 was over there throwing... what was it? 18 Million soldiers to the meat grinder? >
  
  A huge chunk of Russian deaths in WW2 was directly committed by the Germans. They bombed the crap out of Russia and killed indiscriminately.
  Not that Russia has a history of anything other than extreme violence, but the Nazis were definitely worse in this situation. Russia either did what they did or faced certain annihilation, Germany was going to wipe that slate clean. >
  
  It was the USSR which also included the Ukraine as a member it was not Russia solely. >
  
  ... Seriously, were going to be this particular. >
  
  Yes it's called history Kazakhs, Uzbek, Armenians, Georgians, Ukrainians all fought and died for the USSR to label them as Russian shows contempt for their heritage and sacrifice in winning ww2 it is disingenuous. >
  
  German troops were given a (at the time) over the counter drug called Pervitin. It is methamphetamine. It was how the blitzkrieg succeeded so well at the beginning of the war. 
  Wouldn’t surprise me if the Russians and Wagner group went this route again. >
  
  The Blitzkrieg was successful because of superior tactics - the French prepared for WW1 style trench warfare with sub-optimal and outdated equipment and armor.  The Germans had produced the latest in battle tank technology and steamrolled through the trenches while the French had minimal AT with AP capabilities.
  I'm sure the meth helped, but it was not a deciding factor.  Had the Germans not had better tech/equipment and sheer numbers, the French likely would have stopped them regardless of how drugged/amped up the Germans were. >
  
  That tactic only works against soldiers who are poorly motivated. The Ukrainian soldiers are highly motivated to protect their lands. This will just lead to more Russian deaths, which Putin does not care about. >
  
  Every human has his limits. Ukrainian soldiers have described incredible fatigue after killing Russians in various offensives especially during the siege of Lyman.
  We joke about Futurama's kill-limit, but it does carry a degree of truth. >
  
  Too bad Putin doesn't care about how many lives he wasted. The Ukrainian soldiers are fatigued but the keep fighting because they have to. Sad if you think about it. >
  
  We need to send more 50 cal MGs >
  
  M 1911 .45 ACP (aka: "Man-Stoppers") would probably be more economical and just about as effective, as no need for a crew, and everyone can carry and use this independently as needed. >
  
  I think you are vastly underestimating these wave tactics. Reports come out several times now that they just throw wave after wave all night long to essentially wear out the defenders of ammo and physical/mental strength. A 1911 with 7+1 doesn't do a ton when you are pushing off 15 waves of attacks. Also after the initial wave tactics, generally the normal military will push in, some of which have actual plates which will easily stop a .45 ACP round. It's more about needing a way to reliably fire a few rounds over and over and over again at various ranges.  
  For context, a lot of the drone footage of these battles are literal Russians pushing across open fields over and over. They are literally just trying to run out ammo. >
  
  It's that bad already?
  Damn.
  I admit that I did, in fact, underestimate how bad it was already.
  Yikes. >
  
  Yeah it's...really fucking bad honestly. I'm not someone that thinks that Russia can't win a battle(because they can and have many times so far) but currently it's excruciating seeing some of the drone footage. Last one I saw a few days ago involved a group of like 8 guys just traveling what looked to be nearly 100 meters of growing fields with no crops in it. They were pushing a group of of guys in a an extremely dug in trench/bunker position and they just didn't get fucking close. The last few 2 guys crawled to maybe 20 meters from the trench before taking multiple frags. The shittiest part is I saw 1 actual weapon between all the Russians. Maybe they had stowed siderarms or something, but idk. The reports show that they throw small waves like that all night and then the Russians will shell arty nearly on top of where the Russians pushed up to the furthest before dying. >
  
  Has the Wagner group been reading the journals of former nazi doctors?  This sounds familiar. >
  
  Sounds a lot like the Japanese Siege of Port Arthur. Their commander didn't care about the losses and they've lost 57000 men in 5 months, that's less than 400 a day and that was before WW1, human waves rushing against machine guns through open fields. Russians have lost 920 men yesterday, most of them around Bakhmut. Worse than pre-WW1 tactics. >
  
  🎶 We fired our guns and the Russians kept a-comin'
  There wasn't as many as there was a while ago
  We fired once more and they began to runnin’
  Down the M-03 to the Sea of Azov🎶🐊 >
  
  They’re drugged up >
  
  It's called "Tiger Chocolate" and yes it's meth. >
  
  Yeah no it’s not. This is just some made up name >
  
  The nazis used the first meth and would stay up for days fighting . The russians are doing similar and they call the Ukrainians nazis. Fck U putin >
  
  This is evidence of methamphetamine use. All the major powers gave them to their front line troops in the past. Besides making the soldiers alert, it lessens their sense of fear and increases aggressiveness. >
  
  Interesting take, certainly merits thought. However to call this evidence is a leap. If you can link a video with some first hand interviews with former Wagner troops or cite an autopsy of a Wagner soldier with a toxicology report showing a positive drug screen, you may be able to make a good argument here. >
  
  I agree with a call for evidence, but why wouldn't they? It's cheap as hell, easy to make, and you can get soldiers to march harder, farther, eat less, in addition to the psychological advantages listed above. Its a well known dirty secret of many militaries that they use stimulants. Hell, the US military issues 'go-pills' that are amphetamines/modafinil. >
  
  Yup. Pep pills. I never took them, nor did anyone else that I served with, as far as I'm aware. We all knew they were there for use, but we were probably more interested in getting drunk than strung out. I never saw combat though. I imagine that they appear a lot more attractive on the front lines. >
  
  From what I understand, the aviation crowd is fond of them as well as the ground pounders. >
  
  This is stupid tactics.  Charging machine guns with an unending human wave?
  Russia doesn't have the army size to do this.  It has amassed half the total army that Ukraine has when in reality it should have double. >
  
  I wonder what drugs their command is issuing to their operators. Additionally, I wonder what off-license disco biscuits they must be consuming. They don’t act like regular warfighters. >
  
  This was my exact thought >
  
  ISIS used captagon tablets >
  
  Lots of them have life sentences probably. They have nothing to lose. >
  
  I always thought those tower defense game are unrealistic..
  not anymore..