comment: >
  
  I’m not being obtuse about anything because I didn’t deny anything.
  The conversation is about cats. I’m sorry that when the conversation is focused about something I don’t come out of the woodwork’s with “yeah but did you know that worst things exist?” No fucking shit. Congratulations, you have said probably one of the most mind numbingly obvious things.
  Your point is not productive to literally fucking anything. Humans do things that are bad, wow go fucking figure  lmaoo
  Edit:
  Not them blocking me  lmao
context: //Prediction.  The Urban/Rural divide on how this opinion is taken will be HUGE.// >
  
  AGreed. Rural-ite here. Our outdoor cats are happy af because they can go to the barns or shed to play around and be curious but then cuddle up at night. >
  
  Again as I said we can safely assume 90% of the opinions here are going to boil down to a POV of either:
  "I live in a dense urban core within walking distance of 3 Starbucks and two hipster vinyl record stores, of course cats should be indoors."
  "I own a 352 acre ranch.  LOL of course cats should be outdoors"
  And not a lot of middle ground. >
  
  Way to start with a false premise. >
  
  Sure it was worded a little in that insufferable "tee hee poke the bear way" that so much internet language uses, but domestic cats allowed to roam outdoors being ecology dangerous is pretty much as much a fact as "water is wet." >
  
  But is water wet? >
  
  If i let my cat out to sleep on the porch like she wants, with a collar on, and someone takes her, is that fair? What about my senior cat who was stolen from my yard, was she rescued? I can only hope they're properly caring for her, but i doubt it. >
  
  I'm so sorry your cat was stolen. 💔 >
  
  I thought cats liked being outside >
  
  No, no. The species clearly evolved inside a 1 room city-appartment. /s >
  
  I just saw thread bashing /s lol. But I assumed most cats wanted to be out thefe >
  
  Safer to post the "/s" to prevent redditors from thinking it was meant serious. >
  
  I will never post /s! I’ll let them think I’m an idiot if it comes down to it. Usually I put ! When sarcastic or condescending lol. >
  
  Look, I get it. I get it risks my animals safety and I get it's not good for the environment. However, my last cat Daisy would never have tolerated being kept inside and never would have tolerated a harness. She was an indoor/outdoor before I adopted her and that's just how she lived. Thankfully I live in a rural area but don't have coyotes close and people are careful about not hitting animals. And also, we all know single use plastics are killing the earth, yet most refuse to get rid of that. And I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb and say that's worse for the environment than my natural pest control. >
  
  I'm not saying people can't feed strays,  just that they are still strays. Also, there are many things that are bad for the environment. This post is just about one of them. >
  
  I never said anything about strays lol >
  
  I live on 15 acres of land. I have an outside dog who stays outside at all times and she is my watch dog. No one is ever brave enough to come on my property and take her. Also, my cat is an outside/inside cat. All animals natural instincts are to be outside so your post is invalid. >
  
  An animal will have been instincts whether or not it’s inside or out. Cats are an invasive species and are known to decimate local wildlife. So much so that you can actually be finded, your animal taken from you, or culling efforts are used in some countries because cats can be that bad.
  Clearly you have the space to allow your cat to run around but not everybody does. It’s irresponsible to freely allow invasive species to just roam around. >
  
  Humans are an invasive species and we just roam around. Using single use plastics, burning down giant forests, all the good and wonderful things that are totally saving the planet! >
  
  That’s cool, doesn’t change what I said. >
  
  Definitely puts it into a different perspective thooo >
  
  No it does not. Every single time you recognize that invasive species exist there’s always that one person that’s like yeah but humans lol >
  
  Except it does lmao. Because people are still choosing to do things that harm the environment. Letting a cat go outside is nowhere near the same effect. >
  
  That’s cool. Still doesn’t change the fact that cats are an invasive species that decimate local wildlife and fuck up the ecosystem.
  Saying “hurr durr so do humans” doesn’t change this.
  If your line of reasoning is that humans should attempt to not harm the environment, that would include not allowing your cat to roam around outside.