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  The bullies have always been in control, except for a few brief periods of progress over the years. Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt are revered for a reason, they each presided over a period where we beat the darkness back a bit. But the darkness is always waiting, always ready to do harm. And this is not a new thing in human societies, it is the norm. We could be better, but broadly speaking, we aren't. The people with the most will seem to be the ones most willing to do harm to others for personal gain. The gentle souls who want the world to be a better place are generally too easily distracted, too easily discouraged.
context: I don’t get it. Even if you buy the fucked up ideology, how are you proud of attempting an attack, screwing it up, and then settling for hitting an 80 year-old man over the head with a hammer? I mean, even as a bottom-feeding fascist, you should be ashamed of yourself. >
  
  Having listened to the 911 call and his interrogation by police… the guy is exceptionally stupid. >
  
  Most of them are.  It's much easier to swindle stupid people.
  They also do pretty much anything you tell them to do if you promise them something they want. >
  
  It's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled. >
  
  Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. >
  
  I can't even remember the correct saying anymore. All I remember is Bush's fukken face and this beautiful nonsense. >
  
  "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."  
  Republicans have ALL forgotten that second part, and live for being fooled over and over again. >
  
  I’m convinced that W’s fub of that adage was intentional. He was speaking unscripted, got halfway in, realized he was about to say “shame on me” on record, and found a way to deny the media that soundbite. He looked foolish doing it, for sure, but it was really quite a savvy ‘mistake’. >
  
  Ever see bush speak before he ran for president? It's like a night and day difference. He was actually very well spoken and articulate.
  Either he quickly became dumber or he was putting on a "average Joe Texas" persona to win over the blue collar crowd. >
  
  Larry the Cable Guy is in Mensa >
  
  Last year at CPAC they had a big ass banner saying "We Are All Domestic Terrorists". Of course the GOP supports him. >
  
  Wait, seriously? >
  
  Yeah it was an attempt to take back the narrative that they are terrorists after January 6 in a tongue and cheek sarcastic kind of way. Conservatives are not all that good at humor. >
  
  My takeaway from that little stunt was less with what the words were and more that they have completely dropped the pretense of pretending there are things off limits anymore. >
  
  I think the main point was to deflect what liberals are pointing out.
  "gee, I guess everyone is a Nazi these days, huh"
  "oh, you think that's racism?  ok buddy everything's racist, huh"
  "sure liberals, we're just domestic terrorists.  Yup, we're aaallll domestic terrorists."
  It's a way to handwave away legitimate criticism by saying that liberals are just mouth-foaming illogical idiots with no nuance, and the conservatives eat it up. >
  
  It also demonstrates how comfortable they feel. They really are talking out both sides of their mouths.
  More like this:
  
  "gee, I guess everyone is a Nazi these days, huh"
  "oh, you think that's racism? ok buddy everything's racist, huh"
  "sure liberals, we're just domestic terrorists. Yup, we're all domestic terrorists."
  
  jk...unless?? >
  
  I just can’t with the stupid anymore. Haven’t been this depressed for so long ever, and it sucks it all comes down to these ass clowns ripping my family apart. It’s been at a personal level for me and my cousins since day 1 and it’s only gotten worse. Feel like we won’t see any significant change in a positive direction for quite some time either. >
  
  I feel you, this week I hit a new level of depressed. Hung out with my parents & sister for the first time since Christmas. Went to church with them, got lunch, it was almost nice, then they starting complaining about the "terrible progressive liberals" with me right there, knowing I'm pretty liberal. The amount of hate & ignorance they displayed was so depressing. Then my dad said he knows his political views are aligned with God because the progressive liberals want all humans to be dead and have the planet free of us, but God told mankind to have "dominion over the earth". It was just a new level of low for them, and sooooooo fucking stupid too. I guess conservative media is telling them all liberals want them dead so the environment can be better, not surprised Fox News is pitching that, but the fact that my family buys into it.... so sad, I think they are fully lost at this point. They were well educated and mild mannered people, were....
  I've just curled up on the couch after work the last 2 days. Any time I've ever tried to have a calm discussion about it, they get enraged
  I just want my family back... >
  
  
  I just want my family back...
  
  Blood relatives are not necessarily family, nor is a family static. Torturing yourself to accept people when you're at fundamental odds because of the past and/or "family is the most important thing no matter what" being drilled into your head is never going to be worth it.
  My advice is to move on and learn to not feel guilt about doing so. If you don't burn bridges on your way out, you can always reconnect later if things change. In the meantime you can choose who or what you'd like to consider family. >
  
  'He was only going to hammer her knees if she lied to him.'
  No matter what she would have told him, he would have called her a liar and hammered her knees...and then her head.  
  He was there to KILL her and the Right is still making jokes about it. >
  
  I like how conservatives think that instead of just admitting he was his gay lover having a spat, his go-to alibi was that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and potentially murder her for her lies instead, as if that makes any sense. >
  
  Think about the people making that claim - for them, being publicly known to be gay is still the more damning of the two options.  In 2023. >
  
  CBS News in Chicago named News radio 780 engaged in the most outrageous and irresponsible reporting by a major outlet I think I've ever heard a couple of days ago regarding this issue
  First they announced with great fanfare that Mr Depape was speaking out from jail. First of all, who "speaks out" from jail? You're in jail. You have to intentionally reach out to a prisoner if you want to hear what they said. The question that needs to be asked is why, when there have been a grand total of zero jailed mass shooters opinions and motives aired on this channel throughout the years, would you want to know what made this particular criminal tick? The only possible answer is to advance political violence
  Next, they went on to announce that we should all be grateful for his actions. Then something about warning others about more like him or something like this. They then went on to happily announce that this guy would be posting his thoughts and motives on social media so, stay tuned to Newsradio 78!!!
  What the absolute fuck. I've opined on propaganda lite before and it's so prevalent these days, we can't even spot it most times. But this, THIS is what they do, in a nutshell. This is the terrifying stuff. This is what will turn good public servants away from public service where they will be replaced with the next fascist. This is what motivates the subset of the most angry kool-aid drinkers sharpening their spears in the darkest corners of our society because they now know, their thoughts and motivations will be amplified by mass media if they take the big step. They don't provide any context to airing these motivations like Salon did in their writing for reporting on the same thing. They just left his words hanging out there in the breeze then moved on to whatever else their sold out writers came up with
  I can't even believe what I'm hearing from our mass media lately. They most obviously have seemed to have picked a side and in this case, it was not the side of an attempted murder victim but rather, the attempted murderer along with the long and growing list of GOP political violence apologists >
  
  Conservative violence has always been there the open support of it is new. >
  
  Which is a sign of future transgressions like Jan 6. No one learned anything other than you can sack the capitol and walk away. The 900 no names they have currently prosecuted are not the leaders, organizers or even a high percentage of those involved. A joke really, and you best believe our enemies abroad were and still are taking many notes. >
  
  Seriously, r/capitolconsequences has become a sad joke at this point, you get reprimanded for pointing out that none of the people responsible have faced any consequences and that the clock is running out for the DOJ to do anything. “The wheels of Justice turn slowly!” Yeah, well that doesn’t matter if they move so slowly that the offending party is able to reclaim power and effectively wipe the slate clean, does it? >
  
  Yup. I used to give them the benefit of the doubt but this is beyond reproach, since the top orchestrators are still in positions of power and seemingly emboldened since. Add in what happened in Brazil, and how swiftly they acted, and we are truly a joke when it comes to accountability and protecting our democracy. >
  
  Or look at what just happened in Germany: they had a right wing coup attempt and they didn’t waste a minute rounding up everyone involved. It’s almost like they know what happens if you let these things fester! >
  
  "Live in fear and do what we tell you or we will kill you". That's the World the Republicans want you to live in. That's their only policy in Washington. That's their vision of 'America'. The Bullies have taken over. >
  
  The bullies have always been in control, except for a few brief periods of progress over the years. Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt are revered for a reason, they each presided over a period where we beat the darkness back a bit. But the darkness is always waiting, always ready to do harm. And this is not a new thing in human societies, it is the norm. We could be better, but broadly speaking, we aren't. The people with the most will seem to be the ones most willing to do harm to others for personal gain. The gentle souls who want the world to be a better place are generally too easily distracted, too easily discouraged. >
  
  Roosevelt was great for the american working class...not so great for native americans though. >
  
  Or Japanese Americans. >
  
  Now? >
  
  They dropped all pretense of civility 7 years ago. >
  
  Nixon's pardon fifty years ago is a straight line to the Republican party today. >
  
  
  Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that "I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon." >
  
  Fun reminder that Ford is the only President never elected since he was appointed his VP role and wasn’t elected as VP in an election. 
  The only President not picked by the electoral college pardoned the person who gave him the presidency >
  
  Also the president who had backdoor meetings with the DeVos family to stymie FTC proceedings against Amway, opening the door for MLMs in our economy, just a fun little fact from podcast The Dream. >
  
  Stochastic terrorism, they paint society as being over run by a bunch of random psychos and then work up, enable, and unleash the psychos on the public >
  
  This is such a bizarre turnaround. 
  Conservatives are literally the entrenched representatives of regression or perpetuating the status quo. They are the rich elite, often privately educated, Ivy League attendees, the landed gentry, a group vested in crushing the common man and keeping their club exclusive…
  And yet they have managed to paint themselves as some kind of radical movement - a group of ‘anti-establishment’, ‘anti-government’, ‘anti-elitism’, ‘pro freedom’, ‘pro worker’ underdogs that elicit fervent devotion from people they would have imprisoned in an instant if they had the audacity to turn up at their country club gates. 
  It is turkeys voting for Christmas, grabbing a chicken and throwing themselves in the oven in a gleeful, frenzied effort to burn themselves to death, so long as the chickens get cooked too. 
  All the while the farmer is sitting back telling the turkeys they’re going to be dinner, but be sure those chickens don’t get away with not being cooked as well. >
  
  Faux populism is one of the main tenets of fascism >
  
  The definition of terrorism is using violence to accomplish political ends.
  He is a terrorist. The proud bois are terrorists. The Republican party is a terrorist party. >
  
  If you feel compelled to go back to the numerous threads where they all crawled out of the woodwork to proclaim he was Pelosi's gay, liberal lover, don't bother. They've already moved on to new talking points and probably don't even remember saying that.
  That's the magic when you never actually believe anything -- you can say whatever you want from one minute to the next, and none of it has to make any sense. >
  
  Conservatives celebrated the attack and have continued to use it to take both Pelosis as well as liberals in general. Conservatives are the enemy of the American people. >
  
  Don't forget that, while celebrating it, they're also claiming the attacker was a staunch liberal and any talk of it being a right wing attack is purely lies by the main stream media.
  Same old same old...  "We take no responsibility" >
  
  Don't forget that weird claim it was a gay lover. Because throw in a little homophobia for a treat. It's like a little spice for conservatives. "Oh this is looking like some good hot and ready propaganda, but can we throw in some fear mongering and shame towards a persecuted group?" >
  
  It was comical reading the “thoughts” of all the weirdos in the conspiracy subreddit. 
  When the video came out, it was just people saying things like “Looks suspicious,” without explaining why. 
  Because their narratives were disproven, and they were looking for any reason they could to validate them. They weren’t finding any, so there were just vague complaints. 
  Then it turned into “Why was Pelosi holding a drink” or “Why was he sleeping in a dress shirt.” >
  
  I came here to say this! I was on r/conservative last week and there were at least four front page posts about how the video was going to be released… the next day, after the release, there was only one. Every comment was how it looked like a “lovers quarrel” or how suspicious it was that a man would be in his underwear in his own home in the early morning hours. It’s funny because I see commenters there hocking stoicism all the time but their takes are what Zeno of Citium would say is like a dog tied to cart: it goes wherever the cart goes, not by will, but by necessity. They are tied to their own disgust/dislike and will let that compel their beliefs without shame or self awareness. The “facts over feelings” crowd have never met a fact they won’t deny in favor of a feeling. >
  
  My FIL is a HUGE MAGA supporter. The jokes were flying when this news came out. Since he's seen the video, silence. No response. Also, he's a devote Christian. >
  
  Aren’t they always devout “followers” of Christ? If i were Jesus i would be fucking livid. >
  
  They'd string Jesus up in a heartbeat as a brown socialist. >
  
  After reading the first three New Testament books, mostly about Jesus, I realized an inmense majority of Christians have no idea of who Jesus is. It's exactly the person they most hate. >
  
  What's crazy is how fast the Nazi party started implementing obscenely oppressive laws against Jews. Within just a few months. That's how fast it can happen.
  Getting real tired of conservatives who zoned out in history class and never bothered to pick up a history book as an adult telling people they are overreacting when we compare the current Republican party to fascists.
  All it takes is complacence for a very short period of time for things to get real dark. >
  
  You know who else was an imperfect vessel? Hitler.
  The evangelical churches in Germany tried to make a deal with the devil, prostrating itself and allowing Hitler to appoint politically the leader of their religious confederation.
  They justified it for all sorts of reasons. Hitler couldn't be that bad. Besides, we're talking about salvation and saving the soul of an increasingly secular Germany here; hellfire and damnation is a low price to pay if it means saving the souls of millions.
  Unfortunately, the devil snubbed them. Hitler had no intention of honouring his end of the deal; initially, he couldn't move against the church due to the war effort, but he had every intention of wiping out religion in Germany if he won the war. It was a dark stain on their history after the war and the churches lost much of their remaining credibility. >
  
  Has he been invited to speak at CPAC yet?? >
  
  Did anybody on the planet think that this moron on his own came to the conclusion that he needed to attack the Pelosi’s? Of course not, of course he was emboldened by the Republican Party >
  
  People commenting on my local news station's Facebook page are saying the attacker is Paul's gay lover and they were partying it up in their underwear and the video was doctored. The republican base is not tied to reality anymore. There is no saving them. >
  
  Kavanaugh gets interrupted while having a high end steak dinner; Conservatives lose their minds over the transgression. 
  Mentally ill man that their party leader whipped into a frenzy attacks an elderly man with a hammer with the intent to assassinate the Speaker of the House with said hammer; Conservatives say they deserved it. 
  I am and have been an Independent my entire life. Voted for both main parties and some third parties over the years. 
  The current GOP scares the shit out of me. In part for their rhetoric but primarily because after 1/6 they didn't learn a lesson. >
  
  I think real problem is they actually did learn a lesson after 1/6: we would rather follow the rules than stop them. >
  
  If you know a republican you either know  violent domestic terrorist or a complicit asshole. >
  
  Agreed.  Uncle in my family.  So far just a complicit asshole but I fully believe he'd be a violent domestic terrorist if he wasn't so poor and lazy.  100% he wanted to be there January 6th but it involved getting off his ass. >
  
  Just compare and contrast Republican and Democrat reactions on political attacks. When Steve Scalise was shot at a Congressional baseball game practice, no one said it was a jilted gay lover. No one cheered the attack or called the mentally unwell man that did it a hero. No news networks gleefully showed footage and photos of it over and over, speculating on what really happened, wink wink. 
  The GOP is a party of violence and unchecked, unwarranted hatred. >
  
  This is terrorism btw. 
  But they’re still more worried about men wearing dresses. >
  
  Oh I’m glad they told me that the GOP has become the violent party only recently. I never would have thought that the last 7 years of constant political violence and acts of terrorism coming from their constituents would qualify them as the party of political violence until Salon told me about it! >
  
  Say the words:
  Radical Republican Terrorism >
  
  Elon did as well when he tweeted out a conspiracy theory. >
  
  
  a judge ordered the release of video footage that appears to show DePape beating Paul Pelosi, the husband of then-Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, with a hammer after refusing to listen to police orders to drop the weapon. The video is hard to watch, showing the suspect tackling Pelosi to the ground and viciously pounding him with a hammer while the police attempt to pull him off the 82-year-old man.
  
  Not that the point needs more illustration, but this sequence of events just underscores how fucking useless police are. 
  You can be the husband of the Speaker of the House - a pinnacle of privilege, - have the cops respond to an intruder call before the violence starts, get there, confront the suspect, armed, who refused to comply, and they will STILL FAIL to protect you from being beaten within an inch of your life. >
  
  Have you seen the video? It all happened within like 3 seconds, the police responded pretty appropriately imo >
  
  I have; scene opens on Fuckface holding Pelosi's arm and gripping a hammer, which is very clearly not a good thing. The cop tells him to drop the hammer with the same urgency tone of voice as you'd tell a dog to drop a shoe, and he chuckles and says "uhhh nope lol". Cop asks "what is going on in here," with again, nowhere near the urgency you'd expect, not "DROP IT NOW, HANDS ON YOUR HEAD", but just dicklessly asking what's happening, like he can't fucking see what's in front of him. 
  The cops look like fucking morons. >
  
  It's not a joke when they're called the American Taliban >
  
  Conservativism is a mental illness. >
  
  Something I've been wondering about.  At what point do I switch my public voter registration to Republican, so that I don't have to worry about people hunting me down in the future, Mcarthyism style? >
  
  “Don’t be silly be a smartie come and join the nazi party!”
  extended musical number >
  
  Thankfully you can still vote, privately, however you want.
  I'm just worried about some vigilante looking up voter reg and going door to door. >
  
  Right wing extremism is on the rise globally.  Chaos is fuelled by their media ecosystem 
  Once the president was out and attacking entire portions of the population for NOT BEING IN HIS POLITICAL PARTY that should have been what made people wake up.
  They won’t wake up.
  They want their dream and they’ll kill to get it because they see themselves as heroes of virtue.
  It’s twisted to the core.
  There is no hate quite like American Christian love >
  
  Damn that last sentence was too real >
  
  Republican politicians (save for a precious few who have mostly since been purged from the party) turning a blind eye to, if not outright supporting or participating in the violent overthrow of democratic government on Jan 6, was probably bit of of a hint. >
  
  He and Rittenhouse could do a road show. >
  
  Sorry Kyle Rittenhouse. Party’s over. 
  There is a new criminal POS for the GOP to worship. You’re yesterday’s news. They’ve moved on to DePape who they’ll lift up until these cops in Memphis go on trial then they’ll rush to get behind them. 
  There will always be new human garbage for Republicans to defend and support. >
  
  
  Pelosi's attacker is proud of himself. 
  
  Of course he is. DePape believes he has a good shot of getting a role in a 3 Stooges movie. >
  
  Should make sentencing a lot easier when he openly admits he did the crime. >
  
  It’s weird that things like this are still presented as outliers and considered shocking. The GQP has made the turn to full on terrorism/fascism. This is the only platform they have left to stand on. >
  
  There are a lot of uncanny similarities to the rise of the Nazis... Calling the political leader a clown, a failed coup (and they kept trying) worshiping the leader, political violence.... >
  
  the word is "Terrorism"
  They're the party of terrorism. >
  
  Do we wait until they start proudly calling themselves Nazis before we fight them like the Nazis they are? >
  
  Fucker probably thinks he’s the next rittenhouse >
  
  When his trial judge walks up to him, kisses his hand and tells him what a wonderful defendant he has been, he will be the next Kyle Rittenhouse.  When his trial judge cries as he is sentenced to short time, he will be the next Kim Potter. >
  
  I saw a guy today driving around with a 2A sticker (spelled with guns) and a republican elephant sticker. 
  Show me democrats driving around with donkeys on their car. Maybe you’ll see a Bernie sticker here and there. Or the remnants of an Im With Her sticker. But proud party affiliation like that is weirdly for republicans and it’s all about weapons.
  Edit - I’m just gonna address this here since there’s a lot of what-aboutism in the replies…I’m not denying that liberals have bumper stickers. But you don’t see extremist liberals (if that’s even a thing…) openly aligning themselves with a mainstream political party the way you do on the right. >
  
  If I lived in a red state I would sure as hell not want anything on my car denoting that I’m a blue voter.  There are too many examples of idiots who do bad things >
  
  Even in blue states. It only takes one angry conservative to ruin my paint. >
  
  I live in a conservative-leaning pocket of Los Angeles and even I won't put something out or on my car anymore. Some of the people here are fucking nuts. Thanks, NextDoor, for making them easier to identify and subsequently avoid. >
  
  It's not typical for crazies to control their insanity. They're going to get progressively worse. It's inevitable. >
  
  And for a lot of them, it’s “funny”. Instead of condemning the violence they use it for their memes and tweets to trigger the libs. We saw a slow ramp up in violence like the Trump caravan harassing a Biden campaign bus in Texas and recently a failed GOP candidate shooting at democrats’ houses. And the many campaign ads depicting violence against democrats. It’s just sad. >
  
  The guy wants to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse. >
  
  How is he proud of himself he couldn’t even take an 80-year-old man. that’s a big W for Pelosi >
  
  So many “loving Christians” in my family thought it was absolutely hilarious when this happened. They think it’s great. I’m grieving my family the last few years. I don’t recognize who’ve they’ve turned into. >
  
  After the videos were released the GQP stopped reporting it was a gay encounter gone wrong. These worthless twatburgers need to face some consequences already…. >
  
  Conservatives have low intellect >
  
  When’s this guy going to speak at CPAC? They can give him the Kyle Rittenhouse medal of valor. >
  
  Man, the comments defending this dude. "He's not a republican! He's a liberal!" 
  "Later, in an interview with investigators, DePape said he had intended to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage and question her over what Democrats had done to former President Trump. If she had lied, he said he intended to break her kneecaps."
  Hmmm. Yeah, definitely a liberal. Liberals love Trump. (Obvious /s)
  And also this little gem: "Despite saying he didn't want to jeopardize his case, DePape told KTVU he attacked Pelosi because "liberty isn't dying, it's being killed systematically and deliberately." 
  The "people killing it have names and addresses, so I got their names and addresses so I could pay them a little visit … have a heart-to-heart chat about their bad behavior," he asserted.
  Followed by his "apology": "I want to apologize to everyone. I messed up. What I did was really bad. I'm so sorry I didn't get more of them. It's my own fault. No one else is to blame. I should have come better prepared," he said."
  Yup. Sure sounds super liberal to me (/s). Couldn't possibly be a "patriot" conservative. They're so docile and would never resort to violence. >
  
  Republican politicians don’t care about the people who vote them in, they just want to be voted in.  Spouting violent rhetoric to get their voters fired up is all they have to do, they ignore everything else and feign ignorance at their own inciting because at the end of the day, they got elected and have power. >
  
  The party of Trump.
  The party of Putin.
  The party of Fear.
  The party of Violence.
  The party of "strengthen Social Security by raising retirement age." >
  
  Now?  Pretty sure it was well established before now. >
  
  Recently seen a headline from Fox News saying that they were calling for the DOJ to investigate CNNs reporting on the story claiming they edited the released video to make it look worse than it was. 
  The video I saw was cops arriving, waiting for like 15 seconds, the door opening, the cops telling them to drop the hammer, someone says no and dude gets control of the hammer, swings and knocks him out. No cuts or signs there was any editing in the solid video I watched. 
  What exactly is Fox News suggesting CNN did to alter the evidence?
  It’s crazy to think they can just make whatever claims and no one holds them accountable. These people lying and claiming innocence on the attackers part after he was proud about doing it should be held financially responsible if not legally responsible. >
  
  He is proud of himself. He should get the max sentencing. Throw away the key. >
  
  Pelosi home attacked, 4 other shooting attacks on democratic congressmen, democratic governor attempted kidnapping..was there more? Super scary trend. >
  
  They are in a violent war with the rest of us. They know it, why don't we? >
  
  "now"
  Been that way. Be prepared for self defense in any situation. Those assholes act feral. >
  
  GOP is a domestic terror group. >
  
  You have been permanently banned from r/conservative. >
  
  I don't see how a violent attack on such prominent political figures is written off by so many as not at all politically motivated. >
  
  What do you mean “Now” ?? Jan 6 was the clear indication of violence. >
  
  I feel like we should start referring to them as jihadist. >
  
  Now?
  Ah yes, because Jan. 6th, Buffalo, El Paso, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Denver, etc. were so peaceful.
  Edit: Orlando, Colorado Springs, the Florida pipebomber, the Michigan terrorist who tried to kidnap and kill the governor, the Arizona terrorist who threatened people at drop boxes, the Nashville RV bomber, Charlottesville
  Edit 2: The Proud Boys who murdered the California FBI agent, the Cincinnati FBI attacker, the Proud Boys who attacked police stations during the BLM protest in 2020.
  Edit 3: Kyle Rittenhouse, the Memphis police, the Dallas police, the Aurora police >
  
  Party of criminals and terrorists >
  
  He will get to tour with Kyle Rittenhouse. >
  
  It's obvious that pumping these folks full of misinformation and then saying "someone should really do something about this huge problem" is exactly what leads to this violence. The GOP knows it, condones it, pays for its dispersal into all forms of media. And they're not stopping until they're made to stop. >
  
  Correction: the party of domestic terrorism. >
  
  Always has been >
  
  Now?  They always have been. >
  
  I keep saying the democrats hold themselves to a higher standard, even Republicans hold Dems to a higher standard than themselves, and the GOP just keeps proving me right. >
  
  Love how the GOP rails against the illegals coming in and yet this mother fucker has been in the US illegally for 15 years, cannot even vote in US elections and tried to assassinate the Speaker of the House. But the Mexicans…right. So illegals bad when they’re brown but when they’re delusional Canadian psychos who are white….it’s all good. >
  
  I grew up with a dad that would make comments about "Pelosi should be drug out into the street and horse-whipped." so absolutely nothing about their mentality surprises me. >
  
  News organizations I mean actual news, doesn’t get enough support, which is why I support public media. They aren’t beholden to advertisers. 
  Also, I’ve noticed that since there isn’t enough truly local news, the people they hire don’t dig with candidates. Locally, in a very liberal area, a Republican candidate for state representative presented herself as a moderate, a peacemaker. No one asked her for her actual beliefs or what she thought needed compromise. When I posted on NextDoor in response to a magazine editor who supported her, with skepticism, I was challenged to go out with this candidate for coffee. Within minutes, I learned that she had only lived in the state for three years, and indeed, she had a right wing agenda, and lots of stances that someone in media could have uncovered in maybe ten minutes of questioning. For instance, she saw nothing wrong with standing in line to vote (we have the most secure mail in voting in the country). She was completely uninformed about any instances when both mother and baby can’t be both saved in late term complications. She was a wolf in sheep’s clothing, taking VA Governor Youngkin’s playbook. I of course wrote letters to the editor to try and inform people, and my own social media. She lost. I don’t take credit for that, she was a long shot here. The point is, media doesn’t dig for truth anymore. >
  
  The party of sociopaths >
  
  All the more reason to nip that crap in the bud. 
  Let others see that when you cross the line into hurting others, there are significant consequences.
  Think bad thoughts if you must - but do not act on them. 
  Do not hurt other Americans. 
  Do not hurt people. >
  
  It’s amazing how they went from, he’s Pelosi’s lover to he’s Antifa to he was a deranged homeless person so it’s the Democrats fault to finally, good for him, Pelosi deserved it. The mental gymnastics of these people is absolutely incredible. >
  
  They have been the party of violence and hatred for as long as I can remember. >
  
  I think I get it.  If someone attacks Nunez or McCarthy we would likely feel a bit of what GOP is feeling right now.  But we would at least make an effort to condemn the violence.
  The hatred for Pelosi by the right can’t be underestimated.  Right wing media and Trumpism wanted this to win elections. >
  
  Literally heard two men laughing and joking about it this weekend (Dallas, TX). Talking about how good the attacker’s form was and genuinely taking pleasure out of an 80 year old man being violently attacked in his own home with a hammer… People are losing all sense of humanity and empathy. >
  
  For murdering 3 people Kyle Riddenhouse has been offered prestigious jobs, a million $ book deal, and had a law passed in his name.
  Conservatives reward these psychopathic morons because they push the GOP agenda of fear and oppression more effectively than any single lawmaker could dream. >
  
  Spoiler alert: No act of violence is ever going to be bad enough to change the GOP. (Just in case Washington Post or NYT was about to make another “how much is enough?” headline). >
  
  Why would it change them?  Its the result they're looking for.  The violence isnt accidental or a by product; its the goal. >
  
  I have no doubt that right now, sitting in his cell, he's got supporters who are sending him love letters and money. >
  
  The right made Rittenhouse into a celebrity. 
  also US couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters 'to speak at Republican convention' >
  
  This post really got MAGAnation up in arms...look at all the posts claiming DePape was a liberal, a terrorist, the whataboutism, etc. >
  
  And yet if someone on the left swears those same people are pearl-clutching.
  Cocks >
  
  Darn, I was trying to brand the Republican Party as the Clown Party. Can we have clowns and violence in one political party? >
  
  Have you not seen "IT"? Of course clowns can be violent, they are terrifying! >
  
  I don't understand... Are politicians THIS divorced from realty? It's been obvious for years this is where we're headed. Any sensible democrat politician would arm themselves or at least set up more home security.... The pelosis have the money to do it, even >
  
  You can’t shame the shameless >
  
  Literally what the song "Lunatic Fringe" by Red Rider is about everyone should go listen 🎸🎹 >
  
  "Because you've got to blame someone for your own confusion" is the line that resonates. >
  
  nazi gonna nazi >
  
  As opposed to before when they centered fascism and violence >
  
  It'll all be well and good until Republicans start getting attacked.  Then those pearl-clutching assholes will start croaking about "Violent libs and antifa." >
  
  Always has been IMO >
  
  
  The GOP is the party of the political violence now.
  
  Always was. >
  
  What do you mean, now? they’ve always been the party of political violence, they’re right wing, racist, nazi fuckers who only care about themselves and white Christian nationalism 🤯 >
  
  It always will be. So long as the justice department won’t lay a finger on the insurrectionists of Jan 6th, the enablers , and followers of the theocratic Christian cult.
  The GOP is an enemy of the American people. >
  
  The GOP commits the violence. 
  The Democrats turn a blind eye, and insist on "bipartisan unity". EVEN NANCY PELOSI. 
  This attacker will be treated with kid gloves and get a light sentence like the January 6th terrorists, oh, sorry, "tresspassers" who get 2 weeks in jail and a $50 trespassing fine after they tried to murder Members of Congress. 
  It's not MY face in the crosshairs. I can't care about their lives more than they do. >
  
  it literally always has been >
  
  GOP is the party of political violence… now? 
  No, it always has been. 
  🌎👨‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 >
  
  To show how media is diluting the problem...
  Terrorism Definition: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
  Shouldn't this headline read "...the party of terrorism"?? >
  
  I watched the police body cam last night. I can't believe how many wacks he got in before the cops tackled him. They should have shot him as soon as he raised his hand with the hammer. Just horrifying. I don't know how Pelosi is alive. >
  
  I talked to a gun supporter about guns and mentioned they were practical for hunting in rural areas.
  He said… well that’s not the point: it’s for armed resistance to the government.
  That was before Jan 6. Not a shocker how this turned out if you were listening to what they were saying. >
  
  “Now”? >
  
  I keep telling people, if we as a people don't do anything about this insanity, we're headed right for "The Handmaid's Tale" timeline, they're starting to ban books and boycott gay people in general, not a thought about sexual abuse but vehemently pro life no matter what. We need to shut this down! >
  
  Just think everyone. There are people out there who don’t believe this dumbass even as  he admitted his intention to harm Nancy. I know many will disagree when I say those who support these narratives are Demon infested.
  This explains the lack of shame in him….. and Carlson. >
  
  I’m old enough to remember when the right claimed the moral and ethical high ground. They never owned it, and it’s so obvious now. >
  
  Police should have shot him dead when he continued to attack Pelosi. Lethal force is justified. >
  
  
  Party of political violence now
  
  Now?
  Timothy McVeigh called (oh wait no he didn't. He dead)! >
  
  The fastest death penalty case and fastest execution in modern history.   It seemed a little conspiratorial at the time. >
  
  Does not show regret. Check. >
  
  They are all domestic terrorists. >
  
  Sadly I have heard the argument that the video is fake as hell and this was all a liberal lie from Maga morons >
  
  This is so stupid...
  Stop saying "GOP/Republicans are X now", they've been that way for decades. Pretending it is a new thing is literally helping them look better and ignores their long history of corruption and  violence. >
  
  "Now"??? They've been assaulting civil rights activists and bombing abortion clinics for decades. >
  
  The GOP relies on useful idiots like this to carry out the actions that they're too cowardly to do themselves. >
  
  enjoy your fame in prison you twisted dip shit >
  
  The dude looked confused and lost in the bodycam footage, kinda like the dumbshits that raided the Capitol.
  But somehow, some way, the republican programming turned back on and he tried to kill Paul dead with the hammer. >
  
  Party of brain dead idiots led by fucking terrorists. >
  
  Let him be proud of his 30 years in prison for attempted murder, during which he will not be granted much thought at all. Buh bye, dumbass! >
  
  Well, they admitted they were domestic terrorists.  Even if they claim it was tongue in cheek.  I mean, they kinda ingrain that kernel of truth right? >
  
  So, they've dropped the gay lover spat theory? >
  
  Aaaand...the GOP has disowned him, but not for the attack: Because he failed. >
  
  It's easy to dismiss these guys as stupid, or crazy (most likely both), but the problem is, these guys exist... a lot of them.  So when they turn on right wing radio, watch Fox News, listen to Trump or his acolytes, they are emboldening these maniacs.  
  Even if the right wingers DO condemn these guys, they are still fueling their rage. >
  
  It's usually the uneducated that fall for the rhetoric. Race isn't even a factor all the time. Im hispanic and married to an Asian American. We have family, on both sides that believe in the GOP nonsense and some are huge Trump supporters still to this day. It's easier for them to continue to believe in the nonsense than admit that they were wrong.
  Blows my damn mind!! >
  
  I'm sick of folks coddling these pieces of human excrement by giving them a mentally ill "pass".  They may have some legitimate pathological mental health issues, but they're also fucking evil. >
  
  "Now"? Their violence against leaders they don't agree with is nothing new. Add to that POC, children trying to go to desegregated schools, women's health clinics, and their refusal to support common sense gun laws, stricter domestic violence laws, and reforms to combat police brutality along with their love of war and hatred for diplomatic efforts, violence has been a big part of their agenda for decades. >
  
  Also /r/wallstreetbets can be blamed as well. They spread shit and demonize the Pelosis' constantly >
  
  Er... They've been the party of political violence since at least Nixon. >
  
  Now? They have been for a long time. >
  
  Republicans have succeeded in creating the equivalent of “jihadist” in its ranks … those who look at prison or death as a reward for the “dirt”they carry out in the name of the cause of the elimination of liberals and minorities in favor of white men. >
  
  Just use the word we have for political violence Salon.  The word starts with “t” and ends with “errorist.” >
  
  “You’re very special. We love you.” >
  
  Now? Has been since Nixon. >
  
  Another step down the Fascism Trail. Hope the country doesn't die of Diphtheria . >
  
  Now?  Conservatives have been waging politically motivated violence against people in this country since it's inception. 
  At least more people are realizing that, I guess. >
  
  They fucking called themselves domestic terrorists for christs sake. >
  
  My boss still thinks this is clearly a gay lover of Paul’s. There’s no changing these people. He’s an intelligent guy, he has money. He’s done well for himself, yet he can’t see past clear right wing propaganda. It’s wild to me. >
  
  i wonder if marjorie will go visit him in jail, but at the press conferences say that it was antifa that attacked mr pelosi? >
  
  The GOP and conservative media pretty much universally decried this guy as being Paul Pelosi's agitated gay lover so that they had plausible deniability to not be attached to this nutso. He even said he was disappointed that he couldn't have done more/killed more people. 
  GOP has always been the party of political violence. It's just not nearly as hidden now and many are going backwards into making it more obvious, not less. >
  
  I don't know why he feels supported by conservatives, most seem to be calling him a prostitute and Paul's secret lover, not some conservative terrorist. >
  
  One only needs to remember the alligator tears of Rittenhouse and how he grew a bigger base with these radical rights >
  
  Wow! The GOP can't even handle verbal criticism or truth, yet they are just fine with violence and lies. And they wonder why voters are walking away from them. >
  
  They are emptying classrooms of all books. They are only teaching their rigid totalitarian beliefs in religion,  terrorism, and bigotry. They are raising a nee generation of little domestic terrorists. They want this. Republicans like this. >
  
  Not only is political violence being normalized, it can be a path to a career. Kyle Rittenhouse should be in prison, not getting speaking engagements. >
  
  “Now” 😂 that’s rich. >
  
  Unless you are in fear of your life I couldn't imagine hitting anyone with a hammer let alone feeling proud of yourself. >
  
  All politics is violence. It’s about time democrats realize this and start fighting back. >
  
  Now? >
  
  I mean, let him feel proud as he rots in prison. Fucking loser. Hope he lasts as long as a head of lettuce. >
  
  Maybe he can go on a 'cash grab', tour with Rittenhouse.
  , >
  
  If a democratic political leader shoots and kills someone attacking them (e.g. self defense) - these idiots would criticize guns and gun violence. >
  
  I thought the MAGA crowd were saying this was Pelosi’s gay lover and it was a lovers argument…I bet he won’t be as pleased with himself when he sees those comments and posts >
  
  This moron looks like a real life Angry Bird.  
  Imagine if he tried to attack one of the few non-geriatric members of congress like Rueben Gallego or John Fetterman.  Without their guns and Bass Pro Shop camo, these people are paper tigers. >
  
  he'll be running for public office when he gets out of prison >
  
  This guy is dying to become a martyr. >
  
  And of course they can cancel anything and everything cause of "their rights and feelings", but when the other side tries it, it's insulting and evil. >
  
  Conservatives are an existential to humanity. >
  
  Really now? >
  
  Now lol. >
  
  The guy he attacked is likely to die of natural causes before this nut gets out of prison. >
  
  Man, he's going to go into a deep dark hole forever >
  
  So GOP now means Gang of Politicians? >
  
  The worst part might be that to the GOP it looks like it worked. Pelosi stepped down from Democratic leadership. It doesn't matter if that is what she was planning on doing anyway, they see it as violence furthering their political goals. >
  
  This is what happens when you protext the class bully. Bad enough Trump became President, but the establishment protected him and even defended him once he got the nomination, but was no longer treated as the outsider he was, and the outsider he stayed all through his Presidency. >
  
  Let's see how proud he is with 20 years in jail. >
  
  I don’t get it. Even if you buy the fucked up ideology, how are you proud of attempting an attack, screwing it up, and then settling for hitting an 80 year-old man over the head with a hammer? I mean, even as a bottom-feeding fascist, you should be ashamed of yourself. >
  
  Having listened to the 911 call and his interrogation by police… the guy is exceptionally stupid. >
  
  Most of them are.  It's much easier to swindle stupid people.
  They also do pretty much anything you tell them to do if you promise them something they want. >
  
  It's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled. >
  
  Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. >
  
  I can't even remember the correct saying anymore. All I remember is Bush's fukken face and this beautiful nonsense. >
  
  "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."  
  Republicans have ALL forgotten that second part, and live for being fooled over and over again. >
  
  I’m convinced that W’s fub of that adage was intentional. He was speaking unscripted, got halfway in, realized he was about to say “shame on me” on record, and found a way to deny the media that soundbite. He looked foolish doing it, for sure, but it was really quite a savvy ‘mistake’. >
  
  Ever see bush speak before he ran for president? It's like a night and day difference. He was actually very well spoken and articulate.
  Either he quickly became dumber or he was putting on a "average Joe Texas" persona to win over the blue collar crowd. >
  
  Larry the Cable Guy is in Mensa >
  
  Last year at CPAC they had a big ass banner saying "We Are All Domestic Terrorists". Of course the GOP supports him. >
  
  Wait, seriously? >
  
  Yeah it was an attempt to take back the narrative that they are terrorists after January 6 in a tongue and cheek sarcastic kind of way. Conservatives are not all that good at humor. >
  
  My takeaway from that little stunt was less with what the words were and more that they have completely dropped the pretense of pretending there are things off limits anymore. >
  
  I think the main point was to deflect what liberals are pointing out.
  "gee, I guess everyone is a Nazi these days, huh"
  "oh, you think that's racism?  ok buddy everything's racist, huh"
  "sure liberals, we're just domestic terrorists.  Yup, we're aaallll domestic terrorists."
  It's a way to handwave away legitimate criticism by saying that liberals are just mouth-foaming illogical idiots with no nuance, and the conservatives eat it up. >
  
  It also demonstrates how comfortable they feel. They really are talking out both sides of their mouths.
  More like this:
  
  "gee, I guess everyone is a Nazi these days, huh"
  "oh, you think that's racism? ok buddy everything's racist, huh"
  "sure liberals, we're just domestic terrorists. Yup, we're all domestic terrorists."
  
  jk...unless?? >
  
  I just can’t with the stupid anymore. Haven’t been this depressed for so long ever, and it sucks it all comes down to these ass clowns ripping my family apart. It’s been at a personal level for me and my cousins since day 1 and it’s only gotten worse. Feel like we won’t see any significant change in a positive direction for quite some time either. >
  
  I feel you, this week I hit a new level of depressed. Hung out with my parents & sister for the first time since Christmas. Went to church with them, got lunch, it was almost nice, then they starting complaining about the "terrible progressive liberals" with me right there, knowing I'm pretty liberal. The amount of hate & ignorance they displayed was so depressing. Then my dad said he knows his political views are aligned with God because the progressive liberals want all humans to be dead and have the planet free of us, but God told mankind to have "dominion over the earth". It was just a new level of low for them, and sooooooo fucking stupid too. I guess conservative media is telling them all liberals want them dead so the environment can be better, not surprised Fox News is pitching that, but the fact that my family buys into it.... so sad, I think they are fully lost at this point. They were well educated and mild mannered people, were....
  I've just curled up on the couch after work the last 2 days. Any time I've ever tried to have a calm discussion about it, they get enraged
  I just want my family back... >
  
  
  I just want my family back...
  
  Blood relatives are not necessarily family, nor is a family static. Torturing yourself to accept people when you're at fundamental odds because of the past and/or "family is the most important thing no matter what" being drilled into your head is never going to be worth it.
  My advice is to move on and learn to not feel guilt about doing so. If you don't burn bridges on your way out, you can always reconnect later if things change. In the meantime you can choose who or what you'd like to consider family. >
  
  'He was only going to hammer her knees if she lied to him.'
  No matter what she would have told him, he would have called her a liar and hammered her knees...and then her head.  
  He was there to KILL her and the Right is still making jokes about it. >
  
  I like how conservatives think that instead of just admitting he was his gay lover having a spat, his go-to alibi was that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and potentially murder her for her lies instead, as if that makes any sense. >
  
  Think about the people making that claim - for them, being publicly known to be gay is still the more damning of the two options.  In 2023. >
  
  CBS News in Chicago named News radio 780 engaged in the most outrageous and irresponsible reporting by a major outlet I think I've ever heard a couple of days ago regarding this issue
  First they announced with great fanfare that Mr Depape was speaking out from jail. First of all, who "speaks out" from jail? You're in jail. You have to intentionally reach out to a prisoner if you want to hear what they said. The question that needs to be asked is why, when there have been a grand total of zero jailed mass shooters opinions and motives aired on this channel throughout the years, would you want to know what made this particular criminal tick? The only possible answer is to advance political violence
  Next, they went on to announce that we should all be grateful for his actions. Then something about warning others about more like him or something like this. They then went on to happily announce that this guy would be posting his thoughts and motives on social media so, stay tuned to Newsradio 78!!!
  What the absolute fuck. I've opined on propaganda lite before and it's so prevalent these days, we can't even spot it most times. But this, THIS is what they do, in a nutshell. This is the terrifying stuff. This is what will turn good public servants away from public service where they will be replaced with the next fascist. This is what motivates the subset of the most angry kool-aid drinkers sharpening their spears in the darkest corners of our society because they now know, their thoughts and motivations will be amplified by mass media if they take the big step. They don't provide any context to airing these motivations like Salon did in their writing for reporting on the same thing. They just left his words hanging out there in the breeze then moved on to whatever else their sold out writers came up with
  I can't even believe what I'm hearing from our mass media lately. They most obviously have seemed to have picked a side and in this case, it was not the side of an attempted murder victim but rather, the attempted murderer along with the long and growing list of GOP political violence apologists >
  
  Conservative violence has always been there the open support of it is new. >
  
  Which is a sign of future transgressions like Jan 6. No one learned anything other than you can sack the capitol and walk away. The 900 no names they have currently prosecuted are not the leaders, organizers or even a high percentage of those involved. A joke really, and you best believe our enemies abroad were and still are taking many notes. >
  
  Seriously, r/capitolconsequences has become a sad joke at this point, you get reprimanded for pointing out that none of the people responsible have faced any consequences and that the clock is running out for the DOJ to do anything. “The wheels of Justice turn slowly!” Yeah, well that doesn’t matter if they move so slowly that the offending party is able to reclaim power and effectively wipe the slate clean, does it? >
  
  Yup. I used to give them the benefit of the doubt but this is beyond reproach, since the top orchestrators are still in positions of power and seemingly emboldened since. Add in what happened in Brazil, and how swiftly they acted, and we are truly a joke when it comes to accountability and protecting our democracy. >
  
  Or look at what just happened in Germany: they had a right wing coup attempt and they didn’t waste a minute rounding up everyone involved. It’s almost like they know what happens if you let these things fester! >
  
  "Live in fear and do what we tell you or we will kill you". That's the World the Republicans want you to live in. That's their only policy in Washington. That's their vision of 'America'. The Bullies have taken over.