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  The fun part is, the teenager that got fired had someone else serve the police because it was the end of her shift anyway; but the Knoxville PD immediately jumped to 'SHE HATES COPS AND REFUSED TO SERVE US' just because they had previously killed her brother.
context: Yeah. So is murder but they did that anyways. >
  
  Thus proving conclusively murder control laws do not work >
  
  To prevent bad guy with a murder, you need a good guy with murder.
  But seriously, this 0 accountability is very big problem, and nobody wants to tackle it politically. >
  
  maybe, laws are not about just preventing crime but holding people accountable once they do... crazy idea. I know.
  There is no law that prevents anything 100% of the time.
  Gun nuts always focus on CriMINAL DOnt FollOW Law" - duh... but without the law, there would be no crime, thus no process to even hold them responsible.. >
  
  Correct. Mostly cops will arrive after the crime and rarely will there be active crime in progress.
  So it is more that laws set consequences for committing crimes. 
  There are some laws that prevent crime 100% time. For example, no witches have been caught flying on their broomsticks higher than 150m in Swaziland.
  But in USA there is no external panel evaluating crimes done by police. >
  
  Well, colour me surprised >
  
  Just normal eye witness reports will be ignored as well.
  The following is my own personal anecdotal evidence and experience but it stuck with me because of how bad a simple accident was handled.
  I was behind a lady who ran into a guy who ran his red light at full speed. The cop that arrived was on something, her eyes kept popping out. I was the witness and who called the police.
  A week later the lady who I was the witness for texted me and explained the police officer never wrote my eye witness statement down so it was a “no fault” situation for both drivers since the police could not verify who was the cause of the accident.
  We went to the station and had the supervisor review the dash or body cam, and wouldn’t you know it I was on it since the damn cop parked right behind me and I explained who was who in the accident before she even talked to the people involved.
  Another week later and the victim texted me again saying the police officer had submitted a reviewed report that still excluded me. Three weeks later and being twice to the station and she finally gets the correct report.
  Luckily for her I had already talked to her insurance right after the accident as well, so they knew there was an eye witness to the whole situation. >
  
  When you think about it, a big part of police work is the report writing. The issue is the people hired to be police officers are typically not the best academically. We are lucky they are able to get some of the facts right in a coherent manner. 
  Also, they just don’t care if it’s right or not. They have no stake in it being right and won’t get reprimanded if it’s wrong. >
  
  Exactly this.
  Actually watched an interesting documentary about German police training and the initial candidate testing was fascinating. Not only did they have to pass a basic physical but also a written part where if you had too many grammatical errors you automatically would fail and would could reapply the next year.
  It was interesting because of what you said: they do have to fill out a lot of reports. >
  
  Makes me wonder:  how many smart, mentally healthy people pass on bothering to become a cop because they know they’ll have to deal with corruption, at worst, or incompetency, at best? >
  
  They don’t get a choice. The ~~Supreme Court~~ ruled that it’s ok for police departments to exclude smart candidates  
  Edit: Added correct court attribution and fixed grammar/spelling >
  
  Do you have a little more background on this? >
  
  Damn!  This is an old article though.  I’m curious to see if anything has changed since then.  For better or for worse. >
  
  No it has not changed. They want dumb cops. >
  
  Wait just one fucking second here are you trying to tell me the cops lied? >
  
  No this can't be true.  They always tell the truth and do the right thing >
  
  oh wow no shit? Do you think the cops lied?  /s >
  
  No no no. 
  Either a liberal conspiracy to make the blue heroes look bad, or it was the intern.    
  Maybe both.
  More serious, by now even the most ardent "Law and Order" proponent must realize that the current Police system is fundamentally broken. This simply can't be fixed by firing the few involved persons.  
  For me the worst is, apart from Mr. Nichols death of course, that NOBODY on the scene tried to stop this. NOBODY. Those are not just a few bad apples. >
  
  It doesn’t. I was talking to my mom about this just yesterday and she was like “but not all cops are bad”. No mom but the system is fundamentally broken so yes all of them are bad. >
  
  
  Martin’s attorney, William Massey, said “no one out there that night intended for Tyre Nichols to die.”
  
  Jesus how is that even a defence? "Well you see, we didn't expect him to die, we just expected to beat thr shit out of an innocent man for no reason, then blatantly lie about it on our reports and get away with it." 
  They fully expected to just make up a bullshit story on their reports and get away with it, which tells you they've done this before. The fact that he did die in this case, and there happened to be a pole camera capturing it all, is the only reason we know the truth. >
  
  It’s an attempt to claim it was not a “knowing killing of another” which is required for 2nd Degree Murder in TN. It’s absurd and won’t work. But that’s the idea behind it. >
  
  I think the real news would have been if it was accurate. >
  
  Meanwhile on the front page of Fox News, San Francisco's police union decries a pizza shop employee for being a big meanie head toward its officers and demands an apology for such "shameful and hateful actions."
  ... gotta cover the truly important stories on the state of law enforcement in America. >
  
  Something similar happened in Knoxville TN when a teenager allegedly refused service to officers. There was a big stink and the kid got fired