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Just give me morrowind with Skyrim combat
Bethesda's games simply play differently. You have way more freedom in your character story, routes, desires, etc. That's why I really dislike Fallout 4, because you don't have that freedom, your character is a good father, you can't neglect your child and that's not what those games mean to me.
I really love bethesda and I think that Starfield and The Elder Scrolls VI will beat Skyrim, but I agree with you, it is one of the greatest games of all time. >

Wasteland series have more “create your story” than Skyrim. Skyrim has a very linear story with only two paths that lead you to the same end, but with different allies. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the game after 12 years, but it is not the best we will ever get. We will continue to get RPG games that will surpass it. 
Still, gotta love waking up from your drunken stupor, only to find out you married a hagraven. We couldn’t even have the decency to marry a giant or some random dragon. >

The original fallout was a remake of wastelands according to Brian Fargo. Also wastelands is based  on the movie damnation alley. So it’s kinda funny the wastelands series is technically wastelands, fallout, fallout 2, wastelands 2, wastelands 3. >

Had no idea about the movie, but I think I’ll check it out. >

It was Star Wars main competitor and they released same week. The studio put all their advertising dollars into damnation alley because they thought it would be the most successful. >

And it looks like it was a failure. I’ll still watch it though, Arcadia of my Youth is still the worst film I’ve ever seen. >

I know New Vegas gets its cock sucked A LOT, maybe even too much, but it ruined RPGs for me because of how good it was. I played a psycho killer and rarely sparred anyone. There was only like one essential NPC that I couldn’t kill. Game still kept on. In Skyrim it felt like everyone was essential. >

I miss the days of Morrowind where you kill the wrong dude and it's like...
Whelp, you fucked up. Better restart from a previous save... Or you could just keep going in your doomed world.
"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created." >

I enjoyed that a lot in Morrowind.
I heard there's some game where the same NPC replaces every essential NPC the player kills and I like that approach too. I forgot the game, though >

If your argument for why a game is good is “but mods tho!”, you’ve failed right out of the gate. >

I agree as a game dev
I really hate when I'm like why is this game good and the first thing people say is mod support
Like skyrim was good because it allowed for multiple play styles, difficulties, had an engaging atmosphere, was easy to pick up, had levels of complexity with often a few ways to get a level done, interesting and engaging story, alot of interesting side quests, skill trees with interesting unlocks, sub classes (werewolf/vampire) and felt like a modern take on an old rpg
But also the game is not objectively the best. It depends largely what you are looking for in your rpg. For example dragon age is less replayable in it's game play but the story can go alot of different directions.
It's about what you consider important the fact is you can't have a visually stunning game, with alot of narrative freedom and alot of gameplay freedom it's just too much.
Skyrim has a focus on gameplay freedom and Dragon Age focuses on the narrative freedom. Neither game is missing either element but something has to be your games focus. Budgets are not endless, fans don't want to wait forever and devs get exhausted. >

Depends on the game. I think city skylines is amazing because mods support There is literally high quality free content everyday. >

Oh don't misunderstand mod support is a great tactic for the longevity of a game bit if it's the only reason people play your game than your game vanilla just isn't good or has glaring problems you aren't addressing. >


elden ring good souls game but it’s not repayable imo.

How? >

My brother in Christ, people shit on Skyrim because of the memes, not the gameplay. And also, you don't 'create your own story', you follow a predetermined story from the getgo after you escape the tutorial beheading: Stormcloaks or Imperials, forcing you to slay your first dragon & becoming the dragonborn. >

Skyrim is a solid game. We just had oblivion and morrowwind before it. It wasn't the same type of RPG they were. >

Morrowind is still the top Elder Scrolls game in my opinion. >

Why’s Morrowind considered as the best by many despite it being so much outdated? The gameplay is almost unplayable by today’s standards >

Nostalgia. >

I think when you typed "best" you meant to type "accessible" >

Lmao >

People only replay Skryrim for the mods. >

Skyrim isnt even the best TES game....
And Infinitly replayable is highly subjective, I played it for 80h and pretty much got all out of the game I could think. All guilds, main quest and all the sidequest/dungeons , after that you pretty much have seen all of the good content, which doesnt get better at the 2. playthrough. >

It's also fairly easy to level up so you can basically do anything with the same character so there's no point replaying with a different one. >


Skyrim is a bare bones game. The engine is trash and it takes a lot of time to get it working right

...Then it isn't the best rpg ever.
Next! >

"Best" is poised to trigger endless debates, but as far as I am concerned, the truth is that since 2012, I haven't have as fun playing a RPG as I had playing Skyrim at the time. >

Skyrim was the first RPG video game I ever played, and I think it spoiled others for me. None of them are nearly as good. Even if you completely remove mods it’s still the best.
Only Fallout New Vegas even comes close. >

Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion was light years better than Skyrim >

Elden Ring is better >

Go play Final Fantasy. Literally any of them are better than skyrim. Go play Persona or Shin Magami Tensei...
Seriously. So many better RPG's out there than fucking skyrim lol. If you think skyrim is the be all end all of RPG's then you are very short sighted. >

I've only ever played Skyrim on PS4 but I agree with this. I don't know how many times I've gotten lost in this game for hours doing totally random shit. Including spending 2 hours jumping to the very top peak on The Throat of the World just to see if I could. You can. >

The game you want is called oblivion or morrowwind. >

Skyrim’s main quest was better then Oblivion but Oblivion had way better guilds and the Arena gladiator fights were way more fun then the civil war >

Skyrim was shallow even for the time. >

Minecraft is the superior RPG! You can truly create your own story! Actually, you have to. You can do even more with the world through mods than skyrim mods can do! 
It released (from early access) a week after skyrim. So you are objectively wrong! >

Minecraft is a sandbox, not so much an RPG. >

Morrowind was better.
Just sayin. >

Skyrim has a lot of faults, but for everything it does wrong, it does two or three things right. The issue is people tend to focus on the negative more than the positive.
I think we’ve had good RPGs since Skyrim, but maybe not as complete, certainly not by Bethesda. Gaming as a whole has taken a little bit of a nose dive. Games are being released without being fully complete because since everything is online, they can patch it later. Consumers still buy the game, yes they bitch online, but they pay for the product, so it doesn’t give the companies any reason to change their business practices. Ex: why does EA release the same copy and paste sports games each year? Because people buy them. Complain all you want, but if they sell 6 million Madden 2023, do you think they’ll make any changes to Madden 2024 that you’ve asked for? Probably not.