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That’s never occurred to me. That’s nauseating. They really hit them coming and going.
Can't wait to hear how the GOP trying their hardest to fuck over the working class, seniors and the sick is all Democrats fault by the next jackass running to be president. >

It'll be like when McConnell tried to pass a bill to allow US Citizens to sue other countries and Obama said it was a bad idea. They passed the bill and Obama vetoed it saying it was a bad idea. They held a vote to override the veto and Obama said again that it was a bad idea. It passed and then they realized that it was a bad idea. So McConnell blamed Obama, saying that he obviously should have warned them more. >

Still not as good as that time McConnell filibustered his own bill because Democrats agreed with it. >

My favorite is still the international lawsuit one but man, this is a super close, nearly a tie kind of second.
What an absolute shitshow to live through, and even worse have to argue with people about.
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DEFEND THIS SHIT? >


HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DEFEND THIS SHIT?

My family doesn't. They just deflect with whataboutism (half the time being just conspiracy theories) or worst. So you wind up arguing all these irrelevant things and can't get back to the main point. >

Never engage with that stuff. 
A simple phrase, "that's not what's being discussed here", repeated as needed. Do not honor any rhetorical tricks. 
The only reason rhetorical tricks work, ever, is because the other participant in the conversation treats them as serious points. 
In my experience rhetorical tricks are often knowingly used to deflect, and half the time they're only used out of imitation. Half the time people are arguing that way only because they've seen someone else do it. >

Great Advice I am going to use it next time when I argue with right-wing relatives and hate mongering friends >

The method is effective, I will warn you though, it will infuriate them. They will often feel cornered and wronged and may lash out with personal or even physical attacks. >

Which will again be ad hominem. 
Honestly, just stop arguing with people like that. You can't convince them anyway, their goal is never to understand your point or even learn something, but to convert you. There is no reason to entertain these fools. >

The other day my MAGA brother sent me a “gotcha” YouTube about Biden that was a lie.
So I pointed out the lie. Maybe 4 sentences.
He lost it. Started going off how I’m an over explainer and over explainers ruin things etc. started laughing at me. I try not to lose respect for him but it’s getting hard. >

If they won’t tax billionaires, they have to make up for it somewhere >

Looking at the big juicy sacred cow called runaway military spending. Gov should tax billionaires and cut defense to strengthen social funding. >

The problem with cutting military spending is that the cuts never go where they should. They won't stop ordering tanks or jets that aren't needed so instead the budget cuts go to child care facilities, tuition assistance programs, and dependent/retiree benefits. 
And then they wonder why they can't meet recruiting targets...