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Plzz stay the hell out of Haiti America u have destroyed so many countries including that one they are begging for dictatorship again.
There’s no winning a mission like that, the Haitians will hate you, the American right wing will hate you for “wasting money on them” and the American left wing will hate you/blame you for acting like a colonial power. As a bonus there’s no hope of a lasting fix. >

Well we can't just leave Haiti alone >

Why not? Why can’t Haiti be left alone?
Edit: Nm, I checked your history and… wow. >

Damn! Dude posting straight up atrocity denial in a tankie podcast sub. Extremely gross. >

Setting aside my own personal feelings on the subject, what on earth does either the US, Canada, or Mexico stand to gain by getting involved? You would need to basically take over the entire country and rebuild every institution from the ground up, as well as fix a culture in which corruption is accepted as a regular fixture in daily life. You would need billions of dollars and massive oversight to make sure money was spent properly, and the slightest infraction from one of your troops/police would immediately cause protests and cries of colonialism/imperialism. And let’s be clear, even if all that happened, there’s no guarantee it would even work.  
The USMCA nations have practically nothing to gain and almost everything to lose by getting involved in the shit-show in Haiti. >

There's a lot of Haitians living in Canada and the US, and helping Haiti out would certainly lift the profile of politicians willing to help out.
That being said... Haiti is a freaking mess and we're better off staying out of it. Maybe a limited refugee program? >

There is no helping Haiti until they get their own house in some semblance of order else it’s just pouring more money into an abyss >

Yeah but what if they subsidize fuel prices or something? You gonna just let that go? >

Over a century of Haiti being… itself. 
Sucks to be them. Unfortunately. >

Did they ask us for help? 
Why do we even bother if they are going to hate us for it. It is not our place to solve every problem on the planet, particularly when we are not wanted. >

They actually have repeatedly asked for intervention (the government that is) but everyone is too afraid (or not interested) to walk up in there. The US especially under Biden is acutely aware of its reputation in the Americas, the UN already has its own problems in other parts of the world, and other neighboring states either don’t have the money and manpower or can’t see the benefit part from good will to go in. Haiti needs help but it be almost a lose-lose for anyone who goes in there. >

Where the fuck is France in this?  This is their fuck up. >

Personally I agree that France bares some responsibility for Haiti’s current position but in real terms what you might end up getting is French boots on the ground to clean up the mess the French way. That won’t sit well with Haiti for long and it will make the US uncomfortable to have that happen so close to home even if it is an ally. The French can’t do anything here. Giving money or aid won’t work either as the government is so corrupt and porous they make Afghanistan and Zimbabwe look fiscally responsible. >

Tbh, Canada could take the lead and possibly even succeed.  
Possibly.  Would likely require oversight of all Haitian government decisions and operations.
... would this work?  Qualified maybe. >

Y’all take a stab at it and let us know how it goes >

I suspect it'll be on the news regardless the results.  
It IS a Frickn gargantuan task and would likely take an integrated task force a generation to complete work.  
Haïti is pretty messed up. >

Canada would need to be comfortable accepting a project that could take decades and cost billions with the relatively high chance that it amounts to nothing. Along with the fact that if one Canadian soldier fucks up, it’ll immediately be called imperialism or colonialism. And if it doesn’t succeed, it will be called imperialism or colonialism and Canada will be blamed for Haiti’s failure, similar to how France and the US are blamed for it with zero context being added as to Haiti’s immense problems with corruption and political instability that contributed far more to their current atmosphere than some US troops there in 1926 >

That is valid.  
Th only way it could work is if tr Canadian contingent is tasked with management and political oversight and under no circumstances involved with funding or profiting.
Funding would have to be a UN thing with all monitary decisions made in the open and easily audited.
It would be unique on the world stage as a reconstruction program.
Edit : go d damned autocorrect. Wtf man? >

Well, let me ask this: does Canada have any experience nation building? No offense to Canada, but the US has far more resources at its disposal and spent 20+ years trying to do that and miserably failed. Haiti is nearing Somalia and Afghanistan levels of failed statehood, and Haiti’s leaders weren’t even elected. Is Canada comfortable performing a coup to completely clean out the trash, or is Canada going to back politicians who are corrupt and aligned with gangs like G9 and let that tarnish its reputation? 
Just a lot to consider. >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 75%. (I'm a bot)


President Joe Biden will talk with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau about whether Canada or a third country is prepared to lead a mission to address the humanitarian and security crisis in Haiti.
The two countries have failed to agree on which nation should take the lead on an aid mission or what such an operation would entail.
"The US has had multiple experiences with military operations in Haiti, and a solution that does not involve a major US military operation in Haiti is certainly the place that we are looking to try to produce an outcome," Sullivan said.


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