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Ukraine is a large country with a prewar unoccupied population of 40 million and can easily be resupplied by the west. Armenia’s GDP is roughly the size of Malta or Botswana and they already lost a lot of their military stockpiles in the Nagaro-Karabak war. Even in Russia’s weakened state they could pretty easily cause a lot of problems for Armenia.
Can't blame the Armenians for this. The Russians have been surprisingly useless in protecting them from Azerbaijan. Why would they commit to deepening the relationship at this point? Russia can't offer them jack. >

Russia offers less than nothing. A deepening relationship with what is now a Pariah state for a lot of the world can be actively harmful and comes with diplomatic downsides. Add to this the lack of CSTO support and Russia's treatment of other states in its alleged sphere of influence. The juice is not worth the squeeze for Armenia. >

And Russia can at any time decide they need a win and turn their training forces into invasion forces that already are in the country they are invading. >

Well thats one less friend of Putin, keeps getting better and better. >

Putin doesn't want friends.
He wants subjects. >

Armenia is geographically screwed and relied on Russia for protection, which Russia did not give. So now Armenia doesn't trust Russia and won't host the training in their land. >

The US has also made several diplomatic overtures to Armenia, so Armenia will latch on to that like a drowning man. How this all turns out is uncertain due to Turkey, but if some deal can be struck behind closed doors then Armenia could fall within the NATO sphere of influence some day.
Depending on concessions, I could see Turkey eventually agreeing to Armenia aligning westward (even if not outright given NATO membership) simply because the process of doing so would give them massive leverage to arrange the conditions for it. >

Armenia has a long way to go before NATO membership. The borders of all three Caucasus nations are suggestions at best, with Armenia and Azerbaijan being the worst off, notably with Artsakh disputed between the two. >

I’m not as up on this region. I know Armenia’s reactions with Azerbaijan and Turkey are bad, how are they with Georgia? >

Amicable in that there’s no ethnic tension between the two that I’m aware of. However since Armenia is a Russian ally and Georgia was invaded by Russia, I don’t believe they’re on the best of terms.  But one of the easier relationships to mend in the region. >

RuZZia's list of friends keeps getting shorter and shorter. >

"friend" >

Slave with benefits >

"benefits" >

"with" >

At least they truly are slaves...twice >

Yeah, turns out when you don't help a member of the te military alliance you're in when they're being attacked and used the CSTO's version of NATO's article 5, they might object to you doing drills on how they'll "help" you >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 77%. (I'm a bot)


Armenia will not host Russian-led military exercises this year, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said on Tuesday, January 10, in a sign of growing frustration with Moscow.
Mr. Pashinyan's announcement came after the leader of the ex-Soviet republic criticized the work of Russian peacekeepers in the South Caucasus, which has been plagued for decades by fighting between Armenia and neighboring Azerbaijan.
Mr. Pashinyan told reporters he saw no reason for the Collective Security Treaty Organisation to stage military drills in Armenia this year.


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Armenia: being artilleried and drone-fired by the Azeris
Russia: does nothing
later
Russia: "Can we hold drills?*
Armenia: "Wrong number, sorry." >

And why would they? Russia wanted to play world power creating the CSTO, but does fuck all to lead it in a way they imagined they would. They're not helping their "ally" much with the conflict Armenia has with Azerbaijan. Not to mention all of the projecting miltary power they have is tied up and being humiliated in Ukraine. Prudence would have them steers clear of Russia and more towards the rest of Europe, however much of a tightrope that predicament is. >

Literally every member of the CSTO or Eurasian Economic Union is looking for the exits.
Before, they were held hostage. Armenia for example only joined the EEU, because they were threatened with massive gas price rises and economic coercion like Georgia with their wine (post 2008 invasion of Georgia they basically banned Georgian wine Russia, wine is their biggest export). The economic coercion was less explict in public, but everyone knows Russia's operating style.
The relationship with Russia was never truly by choice, but every time in Armenia's history that it looked westward it got betrayed or the situation was manipulated by Russia/Turkey.
Always been a shit situation and poor leadership hasn't been especially helpful for Armenians.  
Edit: spelling issues. >

let's not kid ourselves, they aren't drills, they are special military invasion training operations.
call them what they are. drills they are not. >

I wouldn't want to train with them either. >

"you don't get to boss us around any more. You are shit poor and are losing your 2-week war" >

Well, Turkey is the one behind Azerbaijan, and Ruzzia is now a clown that even Turkey can take advantage of, keep relying on Ruzzia is a quick way towards national suicide. I wonder who they can rely on though. >

So, "come join our anti-NATO axis"? Yikes >

Kazahstan or other allies of the collective security treaty organization should take acctions and send their military to the border in Armenia to defend them, if notThey are showing that the defense organization is useless >

Russia has extra troops to use in drills? >

Is Russia not a big enough place to hold drills? >

Armenia is geographically screwed and relied on Russia for protection, which Russia did not give. So now Armenia doesn't trust Russia and won't host the training in their land. >

The US has also made several diplomatic overtures to Armenia, so Armenia will latch on to that like a drowning man. How this all turns out is uncertain due to Turkey, but if some deal can be struck behind closed doors then Armenia could fall within the NATO sphere of influence some day.
Depending on concessions, I could see Turkey eventually agreeing to Armenia aligning westward (even if not outright given NATO membership) simply because the process of doing so would give them massive leverage to arrange the conditions for it. >

Russia can’t guarantee shit for security. If you rely on Russia for security your only options are pivot to the west or go it alone. >

The west loves azerbaijan. >

They can also love Armenia. >

No, for the same reason you can't buy more and more from russia but claim to love Ukraine. >

How is that remotely similar to this situation? Neither Armenia or Azerbaijan are global pariahs. If Armenia wants western support there’s no reason they shouldn’t get it.
Edit: By your logic, Greece and Turkey can’t both be in NATO. >

War crimes are still war crimes, even if everyone looks the other way. >

What are you even talking about?
Edit: If Armenia pivots westward and receives western support it’s not like Azerbaijan can block a state like the US from acting unilaterally. >

OK, your comprehension is far too low for this. >

Can't blame the Armenians for this. The Russians have been surprisingly useless in protecting them from Azerbaijan. Why would they commit to deepening the relationship at this point? Russia can't offer them jack. >

Russia offers less than nothing. A deepening relationship with what is now a Pariah state for a lot of the world can be actively harmful and comes with diplomatic downsides. Add to this the lack of CSTO support and Russia's treatment of other states in its alleged sphere of influence. The juice is not worth the squeeze for Armenia. >

And Russia can at any time decide they need a win and turn their training forces into invasion forces that already are in the country they are invading. >

Well not so much anymore. Russia pulled most of their troops out of Armenia to fight in Ukraine. 
But yea under normal circumstances you'd be right.