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Harry was basically in a cult while in the Royal family. He's still trying to process it because they told him forever that his role was to be a scapegoat. He still wants to try, heavens bless him. Meghan was raised in the real world, and her father showed her that he's an evil snake. She never wanted a reconciliation with her trashy half sister, they did not grow up together and had no relationship other than distant relative that sometimes pops by until you grow up and move out.
The trash that is her paternal family only sells in the tabloids, which is why they frolic there at will.
To be honest, all of this drama has made the royals quite relatable. >

I feel like all his whining and tell all stuff is working against him. We all know the royal family as an institution is a fucked up one from of weird things and traditions which rule their (very privileged) lives. So nothing he says is really a surprise but you do feel like "all right bud, stop being the guy who complains about his having constantly". He wanted out, fair enough, he actually got the best walk away he could with the expected mud slinging from the press but not the family. Had he just gone Scott whatever business he wanted to in the States he'd have been chip shop paper within a few months. I feel like he's been advised by a US pr firm who have gone the very American way of saying attack first and get your story in first. Except the people who really care are British and that way if dealing with it versus the stoic silence of the total family just doesn't work. 
He was the royal everyone loved, the silly second in line, did done stupid stuff but a nice guy. Fair play to the team at Buckingham palace because it's becoming fairly clear that's really not all he's about at all. >

He moved to Canada. When he couldn't hack it there he moved to the US, but his first choice was Canada. >

I mean the documentary showed his family being constantly harassed in Canada on that island. They didn't leave for no reason. Also Meghan is American so it's not a stretch for them to move to the US. >

There is so much undeserved hate for them and I completely believe Camilla is behind the leaks. Her friends are trashing Meghan in the media. She's not even trying to hide it >

You'd have to work out why that makes sense though, give all the hurt this is causing Charles it really doesn't make sense for Camilla to go after them. It does help Harry's narrative that his mum was the Saint and everyone else is the bad guy except him and Meghan though for that to seem plausible. >

Jeremy Clarkson is the latest celebrity to be seen in public getting chummy with Camilla before releasing a statement saying he can't wait for the day Meghan Markle is stripped naked and marched through the streets while people throw feces at her and shout SHAME! This is just the latest example of Camilla being nasty and sneaky. It reminds me of when Diana said Camilla went into her private rooms and left a taunting note. Basically :Camilla was here! Fucking your husband.  That woman is a lowly snake and all of this media circus smacks of racism, sexism, classism and xenophobic rage wrapped in one Royal Patriarchal package. >

Does the kool aid taste nice? >

I wouldn't know but how does Camilla's ass taste since you've got your head ALL THE WAY UP THERE? You loyal Royal defenders certainly hate when the facts aren't in your favor. Clarkson was seen with Camilla, FACT. He said deplorable things about Meghan, FACT. Backlash caused him to retract his statement, FACT. Camilla has been promiscuous and underhanded since the 1980's FACT. >

Your tears for your fallen God are tasty. Did you know that Diana dumped all of her charities the moment she got divorced and only kept a small percentage that she was advised would give her the most beneficial PR and attention? 
The royal family is full of shitty people, that doesn't make you right. That you think Diana wasn't a shitty person and that anything bad must be the result of Machiavellian schemes by anyone inside it really is the only evidence needed to show who has the loose grip on reality. >

I know more about Prince Harry to last me a lifetime.Thanks to Prince Harry. >

.. And yet he talks about valuing his privacy. >

His privacy is the thing he has of value, so he’s trading it for cash. They’ve been cut off and need to pay the bills somehow. >

Someone's got issues with his step mom >

i mean, I dont blame him tbh after the Diana stuff? I was only a kid but remember thinking it was pretty fcked up >

It's fucked up that Charles was in love with Somone and was told that he could not be with her because she was divorced and so forced him to marry someone else. Everyone got a bad deal here. >

She couldn't give him children. His parents required him to have children which is why he found someone so young. He never stopped seeing Camilla during his marriage. Diana was just the womb he needed to please his family. >

She could give him children. She gave her husband children after Charles married Diana. She wasn't a virgin, THAT and the Queen didn't like her were the issues. >

Yeah, they made it very clear he had to marry a virgin, which is so completely fucked up. Especially when uncle Dickie told him to play the field before he settled down. >

Uncle Dickie was screwing children as young as 9.  Charles greatly admired him. >

Is that for sure? or a rumor? No wonder he got assassinated. >

It is pretty well known.  He had a lot of security.  I have no doubt the Queen was aware of his proclivity.   He had a partner, Jimmy Saville.  This went on for years and years.  The saddest part is most the boys were orphans in a day and age where money meant everything. >

That's disgusting. Did the Queen suffer from some sort of in-bred brain malfunction? 
Why is there even a monarchy at all?
Think about it. >

If were advising Harry on his media strategy, I'd tell him to shut up and go away for a while. He's suffering from overexposure at this point and I am afraid he is doing real damage to his reputation. >

“Afraid” he’s doing damage to his rep? Let’s hope he does enough damage so he goes away permanently. That’s his whole wish isn’t it? To be a regular person not in the public eye? So do it already. Everyone in the world will be better for it. >

He never said he didn’t want to be in the public eye. He said he no longer wanted to participate in the Royal way of handling the media. >

Stop parroting tabloid lies from that Netflix doc >

I remember their statement when it happened. They went into detail about not wanting to deal with the Royal Rota. >

Yes they wanted to go someplace else and serve the queen which translated to “we don’t want the duty and responsibilities of work or responsibility. We want to be full paid glamorous royals living the life of celebrity and perks outside”
And they got it. They just couldn’t get pay and how they are livid. >

Harry: “She leaks stuff to media.” 
Also Harry: I am writing tell all-books, making tell-all docuseries and doing tell-all interviews! >

There's a difference between covertly leaking something and openly stating something I would say. >

I don't know about you but I much prefer a name or face behind the words. >

What? That's what I am saying. >

Okay my bad >

Np, is it worded that ambiguously? I initially gained a lot of downvotes too.
I'm german so I can't tell. Seems very clear to me what my take on it is I would've thought. >

Who cares, man. Why are we giving a flying anything about these people? They are Kardasians with titles. >

If you're british they have all kinds of power and influence, own 1000s of acres, over-rule and change the laws to their benefit, pay fa tax but receive shit loads of state aid and something like £10 million per year. >

That must be so grating. >

I think I've had my fill of Prince Harry stories for 2023. I'm sorry you got treated like shit Harry and Meghan, but other people have family trouble too. >

Except they weren’t treated like shit. They just threw their toys out of the pram when their ducked up “we want to be paid royal celebrities without the work” proposal was rejected and now they have gone all scorched earth. All the other complaints are a joke and/or lies >

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because you can't really know anything for sure, but still. They can piss off now and handle their private family drama privately the way everybody else does. >

We can know for sure because they contradict their own lies in each interview and 92% of what Meghan says are outright lies, and apparently 96% of what Harry says is tainted by trauma and self pity and delusion.
More seriously you just have to pay a little attention and do the lost minimal of fact checking to realize how off they are. Meghan even nigh perjured herself in the high court after lying outright. These people have been “leaking” behind and in front of the curtain for as long as they were conjoined. The hypocrisy is deafening >

Remember the good ole days when Harry spent all his time shutting the fuck up? >

Good times. >

This guy is awfully thirsty for someone trying to avoid the press >

I don’t think it was about avoiding the press, it is more about wanting to control the narrative as opposed to doing the traditional royal thing and being quiet and letting the press define the narrative >

The thing about the standard royal approach was that it also meant a response was never expected, so a lack of response was never taken as an admission of anything. Nor could anyone then spend their time looking through everything for inconsistencies and "gotcha" moments - which is what is happening the Harry and Meghan now.
Once you start doing "tell alls", then people/the media feel a response/explanation is owed to them on pretty much everything.
The Queen knew exactly what she was doing. >

You are carefully ignoring the part about how absolutely shitty the press was being, and continued to be, thanks to the "lack of response".
Yeah, the Queen knew what she was doing. And what she was doing was in no way in their best interests. It wasn't a clever stratagem, it was "monarchy > my son" and he decided he wasn't gonna play along.
Also, maybe, just maybe, the sovereign head-of-state should actually be expected to give answers about their actions and behaviors rather than just given carte blanche so long as they are really really quiet about it. >

Look, to be honest I wasn't particularly engaged in what the press was doing. I am minimally invested in this whole thing. So I am less "ignoring" the press and more wasn't particularly seeking out details in the press.
I guess my overall impression at the time was yes, parts of the press were being shitty, but that was kinda inevitable given the huge amount of ammo they were getting handed to them, mostly from her own family. I kinda saw the non-responses from the firm as a sign they weren't dignifying such stuff with a response. I definitely viewed them as being supportive at the time, in their own manner. Obviously Harry and Meghan felt abandoned.
And yes, overall the strategy is supposed to be of benefit to the monarchy as a whole, not necessarily all individuals within it in any given instance. That's kind of the deal with these positions. Though as I said, I'm not particularly invested either way. I wish Harry and Meghan well, I just think this strategy of theirs is short-sighted. >

I think it's more born out of their situation. It's basically the default way to profit in a situation which is actually sorta tricky to profit from. 
And the premise is that they didn't actually have any agency in "these positions". Like, their choice was to be the pariah of the very large shitty part of the British press, indefinitely, or try and get out of get something different. The royal institution basically stonewalled them ("just shush and sit pretty it's your unasked for responsibility"). I do think you are underestimating the scale of their public situation.
Basically the core of my perspective is that the British monarchy is a 100% selfish and self serving institution that does nothing except try to self perpetuate, while offering literally no benefit (in fact negative benefit) to Britain or the world at large. So I feel that anyone that wants out is morally and reasonably justified to throw as much shit as they want (even if purely for personal profit) unless the monarchy takes a different stance. >

Well Penguin Publishing gave him a $20 Million advance fee for the book.  He has to make it salacious to sell, that is why he is running after anybody with a microphone.  What little I have seen is that he is open for reconciliation...ON HIS TERMS.  Well, I expect you will have a long time to wait....maybe the should change his name to the new Duke of Windsor...sort of fits. >

the duke of netflix >

If Harry and Megan moved here to peddle their family drama, England can have these two back. We have enough with other socialites and don’t need anymore bullshit. >

The worst part of this is....in court it came out that he and Megan DID leak stories, so it's a lot hypocritical of him to whine about this.
And no, we don't want these two back, you keep em. >

No, you >

Wait a min.
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No, you >

Trashes his family in the media and then has the audacity to say “the ball is in their court” to reach out and talk to him. >

Yeah, that was gold.
I've trashed you all to high heaven, blamed you for everything and I KNOW you can't reply to any of it, but I will be at my usual spot on the moral high ground waiting for you to apologise and come crawling back.
Sounds right. >

He wanted out, the Queen gave him an out. He should just sit down and hush up instead of dragging out all the family drama in public and then saying he wants “privacy”. >


He wanted out,

No, he didn't. He wants all of the money and perks of the Royal Family without any of the obligations.
"Fuck all of you and this bullshit! We're moving to the US to get away from all this crap! Oh, and we want to keep our titles, a huge Royal stipend, and use of a Royal estate when we visit the UK.' >

Don't forget, first they moved to Canada but left because Meagan felt threatened by paparazzi. >

It was an interim move because Canada said “we are not paying for your security” >

For someone who gave up royalty and moved to the states to get out of the limelight, he sure does a good job of taking every single tv show interview to bring attention and drama.     
He's nothing but a Kardashian. >

and now "memoirs" at the ripe old age of 38... >

I’m happy to be sympathetic if he’s been duped his whole life. But for fucks sake why is this garbage being shoveled into the feeds. I’m sorry for your loss, move on. >

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. >

The more this guy shares the less I have any respect for him. 
Wah! I got in a fight with my brother!
Wah! I don’t like my dad cheated on my mom with my stepmom!
Wah! I frostbit my nether regions traipsing around an arctic expedition!
Wah! I chose to look at a file full of pictures of my mom dying!
Wah! My wife was too handsy with my brother and SIL and they were taken aback!
Wah! I was expected to follow centuries of royal traditions!
Wah! Wah! Wah! >

The way it is coming out in drips and drabs is the mainstream media. You could just read the book and get it over with.  
I actually respect that he getting it off his chest in one big projectile vomit autobiography and Netflix show. Then he can cash in the check and chill out with his family while the Royals spin. >

And if it were just getting it off his chest, I’d feel differently about it but it’s not… it’s ‘you hurt me so I’m going to hurt you bigger’ and it’s a bunch of half truths and innuendo and telling Oprah your family is racist and leaving that hang out there for over a year before retracing that and claiming you never said it… it was a British Media Conspiracy. In the meantime your grandma and grandpa went to their graves wondering how they got painted as racists. I lived through the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ era and I’m over it! >

Yeah an entire group of people whose entire worth comes from the accident of birth and bloodline are racist (or at best are surrounded by elitist racist hangers on)? Absolutely fucking shocking. >

I think anyone who is white and remembers WWII is prone to saying some things that are not considered appropriate for modern times. I’m not saying it’s OK, but I think there’s a long stretch between not politically correct and racist when it comes to nonagenarians. >

This kid needs some serious counseling. >

He's 37 or 38 years old. >

That 15 vibes though kinda make the kids comment viable... >

Why the fuck is this here? >

I’m ridiculously tired of hearing about this bullshit too (for some reason I can avoid everything and anything the kardashians have been doing for the last decade effortlessly but this shit is everywhere) , but I think this qualifies as oniony. 
The title is basically ‘pot accuses kettle of being black’. 
But I would support a sub/reddit/internet wide ban on all harry and Megan posts right now >

Are there even any more ‘royal stories’ left to leak after the incessant interviews this ginger twat and his wife have been doing? >

Nope. His pedo uncle was the cherry on top. >

Why is this here, though? >

Maybe it's the irony that he just leaked so many royal stories to the media >

He didn’t, though >

just leaked an entire books worth >

You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means >

There was a time when Harry liked Camilla and got on well with her and now she is dangerous. I just wonder what happened to Harry? Not even his friends recognize him anymore. >

In one of his latest interviews I saw a clip of him saying, “there were three of them in that marriage..” He’s bringing up the Bashir interview and things that were said twenty-five years ago or more. His dad and stepmother have been married for almost the amount of time Diana has been gone. There is so much resentment coming from him that I would urge him to get more proper mental health care because whatever he’s doing now doesn’t seem to be helping him move on and face reality.
It’s like he’s created this own reality in his head, his truth, what he wants the present to look like, and it doesn’t. So instead of facing what the current circumstances are, he lives in that false reality in his head and bashes anyone who doesn’t fit into that narrative. >

For someone who claims to want privacy he sure gets in front of the camera a lot ! Won't shut up, and won't go away ! >

He doesn’t want privacy. He wants safety. >

Yes, that’s why he bragged about killing 25 members of the Taliban who he didn’t see as human beings. Safety. >

Here is the actual quote:
“So, my number: twenty five. It was not a number that gave me any satisfaction. But neither was it a number that made me feel ashamed. Naturally, I would have preferred not to have that number on my military CV in my head, but by the same token I would prefer to live in a world that didn’t have the Taliban, a world without war.”
He’s not bragging. He is saying it’s a necessary evil if you’re in the military. Try reading a primary source instead of relying on the Mail for rage bait headlines. >

He’s literally saying that he killed 25 people and calling it “his number” and explicitly calling out the Taliban. That’s fucking weird, it’s not something normal soldiers talk about, and it’s pretty clearly making himself and his family (the people he claims he wants to keep safe) targets. He was pulled from Afghanistan in the first place because his presence was creating a danger. >

He faces more danger from radicalized Brits with too much time on their hands than the Taliban. >

Oh okay. The British people are more dangerous than the Taliban. >

This, but unironically. >

The only worthwhile take on this dumb story is from Patti Davis, Reagan's daughter. She wrote a similar tell-all book about her family and now basically regrets every single part of airing the families dirty laundry in public. 
Once time goes by and Harry realizes that he did not help anybody and while he believes his intentions are just, all he did is hurt the people he loves and only did it for personal attention, money and selfishness. >

He married a self delusional narcissist and these two are bonded with hate and retribution vibes >

Taking Buckingham to the trailer park in a hurry with the drama. I'm not saying that he's making it up, but he's sharing too hard and too fast to gain much useful attention from it. >

You remember that Japanese princess who left the Imperial family not long ago? I don't! Princess what's her face had the decency not to milk her family drama for every penny, and because of that I respect her immeasurably more than I do Harry. >

To everyone who doesn't care about these stories you know you don't have to comment about how you don't care about these stories right? You can just scroll right past it. >

But they don't care. They don't care so much, they're leaving a comment. >

Where’s the exposé on Megan’s dysfunctional family? Don’t they want a reconciliation there? But that won’t sell on Netflix or a CNN interview.