>

Not me.  I was anybody but Biden in 2020.  But damn did he prove me wrong.  He’s done more than the last two presidents combined.  He’s been a stable spokesperson and brought together both parties to keep America’s lights on.  Has he made errors ? Sure.  But I am very happy with what he has done.  I just think now that we have wiggle room in the senate.  He needs to give the VP some time to shine.
I don't want Biden to run in 2024, but I'll gladly vote for him over any republican who runs. >

Democrats who feel this way aren't dissatisfied with Biden, they just want somebody younger. >

As a Progressive, you know where I stand but Dark Brandon was amusing to see. 
I am not dissatisfied with him as it feels pretty good not to have panic attacks in the middle of the night wondering what Orange Cheetolini said during the night. >

I love how right wingers say he’s senile, but in the next breath make him out to be some brilliant tactician and political mastermind. I’m not sure how that works. >

It’s important to recognize that Biden has a fluency disorder and the changes to his speech, are related to that. It’s simply discrimination. They know that the orange haired Cheetolini actually has signs of cognitive change, and had no problem letting that slide. It’s simply discrimination against a disability to slander someone you don’t like. >

I will always say this, as someone who had a grandfather with dementia, trump reminds me of my grandfather. Biden just reminds me of someone who is getting older. >

Biden just has a stutter that he's worked very hard to overcome. I've worked with and been friends with people with much more severe speech disorders. It's not any cognitive decline, just difficulty with speech. >

I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have to constantly correct your speech for years. Tbh, I’m glad we have a president who shows it’s ok to sometimes struggle with things. It makes him more endearing and relatable. I wasn’t necessarily talking about his speaking abilities when I said he was getting older, I meant more so some of the memory related things or the tripping. I’d never make fun of him for having an actual speech disorder or impediment. >

This isn't talked about often but Biden actually takes time to work with/meet and talk to children who have speech issues similar to his. >


But despite these accomplishments, only 47 percent of Democrats want him to seek a second term.

And do the other 53% support the same person or a bunch of different people, many of them not even having someone specific in mind? >

I want a progressive politician that is under the age of 60... that is all. >

A progressive in the general would lose moderate votes to a (not crazy) Republican candidate and would result in a Republican president.  If the next Republican president is as ambitious as Trump but actually smart it will be the last president we ever vote for.
I want a Progressive president.  But I'm willing to compromise and accept a moderate Democrat in order to prevent the end of our democracy. >

Lots of people on the far left aren’t able to compromise. They’re accelerationists who would welcome another Trump term as they think it will advance their agenda eventually and they won’t suffer any direct negative consequences because they’re mostly white and privileged. >

Log off Twitter and try actually talking in person to real leftists. >

I did, went to a DSA meeting and left when I realized I was the only POC there >

So identity politics over actual ideals and goals? >

i'm not convinced anyone on here is actually a progressive, with all the fox news talking points being thrown around lmao >

Are you referring to this sub? Because 90% of the posts and comments are progressive while moderate or opposing ones are frequently downvoted. >

at least in this thread
idk feels a bit like a parody when self-proclaimed progressives literally act like walking talking fox boogeymen >

Not this headline, again >

I'd like to be clear, as I am someone who would rather have another candidate:
I don't want Biden to run again in 2024, but will I vote for him if he does?
Abso-fucking-lutely >

Yea, sure.  A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.  I'd prefer Warren, some would prefer Bernie.  Others switched out of the GOP registration just because the GOP went crazy and would really rather have an old school chamber of commerce republican.
It's a big tent, Biden does well to get a plurality, and we'll all go and vote for him when he's the nominee. >


A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.

Need to think general election not primaries.
Biden has excellent record.  The ONLY negative that GOP media has made stick is the mental acuity issue, so take the test. >

It's kind of funny how Hunter is the only thing that the right has been pushing on Biden character assassination wise.
Like after how many decades of politics, the most they have is an extremely tenuous accusation of nepotism? >

After Trump, GOP accusations of nepotism falls flat on its face. >

Rules for thee, not for me. >

I do? Not really. I want him to be a boring, almost out of mind President who continues to get shit done. There's not a single potential candidate I trust more than Biden right now in this political moment. >

Trust more to be productive or trust more to get elected? >

Yes. >

Biden is doing a phenomenal job. No complaints. >

Agreed. He has been the most legislatively successful president since Johnson and he did so with razor thin majorities. My only complaint against him is that the withdrawal from Afghanistan could have been better planned, but even then he still ended America’s longest war. >

Better planning would have required at least some coordination with the outgoing administration.  They were not forthcoming. >

This is one of those times when the media talks about a non-story so much for so long, they make it the story.
It's precisely how they made Trump president. They talked about him to the exclusion of every other candidate, and what do you know? Ignoring everyone else had the effect of making him president.  
And now they're doing it to make sure Biden doesn't run again. They're simply going to make it "common knowledge" that nobody wants Biden to run. And in this way, they will make it so. >

Polling before and after the holiday break suggests a majority of dems don’t want Biden to run
Independent of his accomplishments he would be 86 by the end of his 2nd term
The average life span in the US is 77 >

Mitch McConnell is 80. Where are the articles about him running for re-election? >

This is a huge issue with these articles. They also ignore the fact that while people would prefer to vote for someone younger, that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for Joe Biden because he's old. >

Do we, though?
For a moment literally just stop and count up the wins. While the GOP literally can't not fuck up nominating their own speaker with a majority, Biden has major wins on a number of fronts. Despite a radically stacked court. >

No "we" don't.  This is "the media's" job.  They did it with Clinton.  The did it with Pelosi.  They did it win Sanders.  They did it with Harris.  It's what they believe is their job.  I read the Palmer Report to remind myself that it's not about journalism.  It's about clicks. >

This isn't about what we "want", it's about who can win. Biden has proven to be capable of beating Trump, should he somehow against all odds be the opposition. There are no viable, energizing candidates on the docket, and trying to switch to someone else just because of their age at this point will surely spell a loss for Democrats.
They're stuck with Trump, we're most likely stuck with Biden. But at least Biden is a winner, like him or not. >

Dems haven’t tested the theory of who could beat trump outside of HRC
Hard to imagine a Gretchen Whitmer, Mark Kelly, or Josh Shapiro wouldn’t be a better bet to snag moderates and IND voters
I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything >


I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything.

Trump could be a vegetable, hell he already has the mental capacity of one, and the entire GOP voting base would slurp him up like sweet orange nectar.
I'm all for alternatives, but I'm not willing to risk a second Trump presidency just because Biden is old. Find an alternative that could actually win, and I'll take a look. >

I'd vote twice for AOC. >

Before joining The Post, Byler was chief elections analyst and a staff writer at the Weekly Standard, >

I'll say it, I want a younger president, but if it has to be Joe Biden, he'll get my vote again. He's done quite a bit, and any step in the progressive direction is better than allowing another authoritarian fascist win again. >

Does anyone with any sense actually believe that Biden's experience and acumen were not directly responsible for the legislative achievement of the last few years. I don't think that some younger - although more media presentable - will accomplish nearly as much. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >

Exactly >

Overall, Biden has exceeded my expectations. He's not perfect, no one is. But he's also going on 80. No disrespect to any older folks, but I want a presidential candidate under the age of 70. 
Biden seems pretty sharp overall but at his age, when declines do set in, they can be extremely rapid. >

It’s absolutely insane to me that people would want to throw away the incumbent advantage and the good will he has earned simply because “old”. 
If he’s capable of doing the job, there’s no reason to gamble on someone else when there are no clear candidates on the table. >


If he’s capable of doing the job

If.
Dude’s ancient. We don’t know what might happen between now and then, but he could just die of old age or suffer some kind of debilitating health issue. Hence why it’s better to go for someone younger. If Biden remains hale, I don’t see a problem with him running again, but that’s far from a guarantee. >


If Biden remains hale, I don’t see a problem with him running again, but that’s far from a guarantee.

Protip: Nothing in life is really guaranteed (see the legal concept of force majeure ), so all plans are really contingency plans.
That stated, there's presently no reason to seriously doubt Joe Biden will be able to serve another four year term. >


That stated, there's presently no reason to seriously doubt Joe Biden will be able to serve another four year term.

By his final year he'll be 86. That certainly IS a reason to seriously doubt that he will be able to serve the full term. >

How old is Bernie again? >


How old is Bernie again?

Also too old (unfortunately). >

someone that will enforce rule of law.
put a head of doj that will hold trump, bannon, flynn, stone, giuliani, thiel and other fascists criminals , putin russian money laudnerers, insurrectionists accountable and sent to prison... >

I don't see anyone else running against DeSantis and winning. If the economy improves and Russia is defeated then I think the current admin should stay. >

Anyone under 70 please >

Under 50 would be nice >

Nah, I’m more and more down for Joe. Before I was just fine. He’s been doing pretty good imo. >

Honestly, he's done a way better job than I expected, and until he gives us reason to believe he won't continue to do that, we should just roll with him in 2024.  Age be damned.  The only thing about his age that changes things for me is that it makes the VP pick more important. 
 Maybe switch out VP picks for someone more progressive than Kamala in case he kicks the bucket while in office. >

Based on the rate in which the incumbent wins, only Republicans should want someone other than Joe Biden. >

I know right. Who the heck is pushing that narrative?
I want Biden and no one else for 2024, i can't currently see anyone else that can win against a De Santis >

If Biden steps down, sure. But the people who think primarying him is a good idea are morons. That's how you give Trump or Desantis the white house. >

I don't want someone else.  Biden is doing an awesome job >

No we don't. I hate this stupid narrative from the people that helped give us Trump. >

I dont.. he has accomplished so much more than I thought he would. At the start I had my doubts. But now, Im %100 voting for him again if he runs. >

I want somebody else, but doubt there will be anybody else who's as viable. >

As a foreigner following US politics, I gotta say, how is this possible? A country of 300 million with 50 separate legislative systems, and you guys can't find a single presidential candidate that is reasonably experienced, has good character and can talk to people, and not going to be pushing 90 at the end of his or her presidency? Something must be broken, somewhere... >

Who? >

Biden has done a great job. Now fucking retire and let a new generation take the wheel. >

I don't. >

Like in 2020, if Trump gets the nomination again (seems likely), then ANY DEMOCRAT will beat him...again...even Biden. >

What if….and hear me out….it was someone that was in touch with generations that aren’t members of AARP? Maybe someone that actually gives a shit about the poor and working class? I dunno, too much to ask? >

Meh, this article is kind of pointless, and I’m not sure their numbers back up their conclusion >

Biden was the first democratic president I voted for… honestly as it goes so far.  I would vote for him again if he ran.  He doesn’t inspire awe for me, but I’ve not been unhappy with his progress either.  This alone is a good thing and worth a vote from me. >

Biden's a fine president. I just don't want him to die in office. That kind of thing is traumatic for the country. >

End the fuxking federal prohibition on cannabis. How hard is it to just do this shit?!?! Stop taking money from for-profit prisons, alcohol and pharma and just do it.!.! >

I wan’t someone who will make it to 2028. Is that really too much to ask in a country of 360,000,000 people to pick from for a candidate? >

I don't think he could create the buzz again to beat DeSantis, they better hope Trump ruins the right's path and splits the vote. >

I like Biden cuz he gets stuff done and doesn’t complain or blame others. 
He treats others with respect even if they don’t see eye to eye. 
He thinks before he speaks. 
These are REAL leadership qualities. >

If the GOP can have the last four years of Reagan dementia, we can have four more years of Old Joe. >

We do not. I wasn’t polled. Dark Brandon until he says no more. >

Biden was handed a shit show and has guided us through it with a steady hand.  Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.  He deserves another term. >


Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.

yeah, holy shit, some people are thick. Pretty much every country suffered from inflation post-COVID. Supply chains were not back to normal, people started spending again, Russia invaded Ukraine causing oil and grain prices to soar which further made transporting all goods increase and the price was passed on further to consumers. Republicans were all attacking Biden over inflation while voting against Bills to help curb inflation. >

I want Joe Biden. >

Yes I'd prefer someone younger and more progressive than Biden but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him when he's inevitably the nominee in 2024. >

No we don’t >

I was one of the people that voted for Biden just because he wasn't Trump. I didn't want him at all, but it beat the alternative.
Now after 2 years of watching him go, I would happily vote for him again. No one is more surprised than I am by this. >

Biden is doing well, And he should finish out his agenda. We can talk about who is next after his 8 years. Democrats and the Americans people by extension, are very happy with him. >

Is this ageism? Yes the democrat leadership is old but very knowledgeable and successful driving polices thru in spite of 100% Republican opposition. This is no small feat. >

No we fucking don't. >

Right wing propaganda trying to split support from Biden as usual w his age as only crutch. 
Dude even got McConnell working w him and right doesn't know what to do. >

If someone better was 2nd in line, I think I would not mind if he ran again as much.  
Seeing an 80+ year old pretend to be in his 40’s and run the election gauntlet and possibly become too Ill to compete, or worse, die and leave Harris to lose the election to Trump is my nightmare. >

I do think the VP part of this situation is what is most uncomfortable for people. >

It should be.  If he makes it all of the way through re-election, it is incredibly possible we will have his vice president take over operations at some point either due to frailty or death.  
I mostly fear a full bore campaign trail.  He didn’t have that last time.  Kamila isn’t electable to a large amount of Democratic voters and Trump (or DeSantis) will get to ordain himself Emperor for life.  All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate. >


All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate.

i don't even think they have one. pete's a boomer's idea of a next generation candidate, kamala's obviously DOA, bernie's got next generation policy but too old. decades of this same leadership clinging onto power until the last second has crushed the party's ability to build a pool of qualified presidential candidates. >

Andy Beshear is 45 & Gretchen Whitmer is 51 >

No, we don’t. >

Not all of us want someone different. Advanced age is a positive thing in a town like D.C. as long as someone is not senile. Alot of people think Biden is senile, but if you watch a speech or a press conference in its entirety its easy to see he is not. His experience with the processes in D.C. enabled him to get a ton of positive things done in the 2 years he had both houses of congress behind him.  Good job Joe! >

Bullshit. >

They want someone as incredibly experienced and effective as Biden in  younger body.  Because unicorns >

Then they better put someone up that has a strong chance of beating DeSantis, and that is not Harris, and it is not Bernie. >

The first priority is to keep Republicans at bay, out of the hen house. If there is someone who is bolder, more progressive than Biden and electable, then that's who we need going forward. >

Democrats, meaning registered Democrats, may want someone else and someone younger. I can understand that, but to be honest, I like Biden and wish we could count on him living forever. But seeing how that plan worked out for Ginsberg, maybe it is time to move on.
Another relevant question is whether the Democrats have anyone else to offer that a majority of Americans will vote for?
I personally don't know the answer to this but one thing I have learned over the last decade or so is that the political polling  industry can be practically useless at times. 
Party insiders seem to want to be able to run Biden against a bruised up Donald Trump, always indicted but never quite convicted. Running against MAGA election deniers worked out pretty well for the Democrats in 2022. Can we still run against MAGA election deniers without Trump actually running? Is anyone else going to beat Trump in 2024? >

Love the guy but we need somebody younger and energetic, the challenges and danger are too great >

I want someone else, but I'll take anyone who will keep a fascist out of the white house. >

Someone under the age of 70 would be a great start. >

Not me.  I was anybody but Biden in 2020.  But damn did he prove me wrong.  He’s done more than the last two presidents combined.  He’s been a stable spokesperson and brought together both parties to keep America’s lights on.  Has he made errors ? Sure.  But I am very happy with what he has done.  I just think now that we have wiggle room in the senate.  He needs to give the VP some time to shine. >

I'm pleasantly surprised at how he's been getting stuff done. Now we need to pack the courts with more liberal leaning judges. >

So does everybody else. So far he has been what we expected. A non trump, non crazy, stop gap bridge to something better. Hopefully he would get a couple of the things he campaigned on in place. 
As a member of the working class I want someone in office that will actually represent our interests. Ive yet to see that in my lifetime. But we have been close the last two elections.
With that said ill take a centrist democrat over any current republicans in office. Ill vote my choice in primaries and fall in line in the general. Its not ideal but it works, at least better than the alternative, and the repubs have showed us that election after election after election. >

Give me Newsom if Biden doesn't want to run because I think he can actually do the job. Do not under any circumstance run Harris. That's almost a guaranteed loss. >

Newsom would be the natural choice, executive running the sixth largest economy in the world and very diverse state that is only 42% White. >

Well, somebody wants "democrats" to want someone else, because that would certainly help Republicans, wouldn't it? >

Oh look, WaPo decided to pick up the 'retire' banner. I'm sure it's totally logical to throw out the most successful president since FDR because 'hes old' or something. Literally the only complaint I see from the retire crowd is he's old, which tells you exactly how much they should be listened to.
I didnt want Biden in 20, thought he would be a disaster. Now, nobody else deserve the job more and I won't vote for anyone else. He deserves another term after getting the stuff done he did in the last 2 years. >

Newsom said he would not run against Biden.  Now if Biden decides not to run, I would like to see Newsom run >

He’s so fucking old.  I can’t look at his decrepit ass anymore.  Please someone younger than 60.  Please.  We are begging you.  We don’t like Biden, never did, but we had to vote for him.  That’s the only reason.  There was no other choice. >

I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primarily due to his age and due to his stance on gun rights. (Gun rights are a big issue for me even though I lean left on most other things)
Having said that, Biden has really impressed me, and I’ll definitely be voting for him in 2024 if he runs again. Regardless of his age, he’s shown that he can handle the job, he’s stood up to the Russians, he’s gotten a lot of bills through Congress, and he’s shown no real political will to ban assault weapons, which was the main reason I was skeptical of him to begin with. As long as he continues down this path he’s got my vote. >

I want Mark Kelly. >

I don’t love Biden, but dark Brandon is getting shit done. If he has a couple more senators and 2 more justices we could actually fix some things >

Biden reminds me of a cute old grandpa tbh that's it he seems like a really cool person. >

He’s done a much better job than I expected, but Joe is old. We need some younger, more progressive leaders for our future. >

I don’t mind if he runs again, I’d just rather have a candidate who I don’t think will die in office. Dark Brandon is too old for this shit, if I make it to 80 I’m sure as hell not working minimum 60 hour weeks managing the most powerful country in the world. That’s a lot for the throat goat to handle >

We do? Who do we want? >

I like Biden but the Dems desperately need to pass the baton to the next generation. 
I'd love to see Andy Beshear, Jarad Polis or Ned Lamont get tapped. Laura Kelly may be an option too. >

Unpopular opinion: the next generation needs to earn that baton rather than it just be handed to them. >

I apologize for playing the role of Captain Obvious, but that baton is going to have to be picked up eventually. No one lives forever. >

Sounds like they should be getting to work, then. 
As evil as he is, DeSantis has been appealing to the Republican base around the country for awhile now. There are no younger candidates on the left doing that effectively. >

It's easy to appeal to idiots when all you have to do is lie to them and spout off the bigotry they like to hear.  The problem for democrats is that the depth chart is weak because the old fucks won't go away. >

Simple solution: Win primaries.
The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts. >


The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts.

Technically speaking, that's a problem across the board, and not necessarily with the 18-35 demographic. 
Simply put, a lot of people just don't show up to the polls, regardless of the reason, whether it be disillusionment, apathy, work conflicts, lack of access, etc. >

Oh for sure. Nobody is off the hook. We haven’t had a midterm election with over 50% turnout in literally over a century, and that obviously doesn’t even count primaries.
The younger generation though has a pretty uniquely awful track record though. I mean when articles are being written patting them on the back for the “second highest turnout in history”, and only 27% showed up last year, it’s a problem. When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections. >


When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections.

Absolutely agreed. But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand. You're right that the choices about how we're governed are made by people who bother to show up and vote. The other side of that coin is old people accepting responsibility for the fucked up situations created by voting for shitty people for decades. Let's hear it, old folks, step up and take the blame you deserve.
And in taking that blame, acknowledge that you might not have all the right answers about how to vote now, and listen to young people who at least 1) have to live in the world they're voting on, and 2) don't have a long track record of choosing morons for office.
Sorry for the edits. >


But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand.

Gen X's first presidential elections were 84 and 88. Check how they voted then. Problem doesn't go away with the Me generation. >

Can we please just be as blindly loyal as Republicans until Trump dies? >

We won't be. Like every other opportunity, we'll piss it away. (I say this as a lifelong Dem who is so tired of taking the high road. Dark Brandon makes me happy. Let's keep doing it.) >

Yeah. I mostly like Joe Biden especially as president but I don't want to go out here worshipping him like some do Trump. Decking my room with Biden merch seems so unnecessary lol. >

The worship is what's frightening to me. Proudly voted for Obama and Joe Biden because I thought they were the best choice. I was voting for POTUS, not joining a cut. No need for clothing, signs, or  bumper stickers. >

He needs to run again. Incumbents have a massive head start. If he would have picked a stronger VP, then I’d be ok with him retiring but we can’t afford to risk one of these nutty republicans winning. >

Based on two years of President Biden, I would be happy with another four years of President Biden. >

No I don't. Stop trying to stir up shit for clicks. >

I'd vote for him in 2024 speak for yourself Jeff Bezos >

We do?? Why? Biden is getting shit done. >

i'm a dem and i'm fine with joe. >

All I want for 2024 is justice for January 6th. And I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about every republican member of Congress who supported him, refused to hold him accountable for a fucking coup attempt, or endorsed his efforts after the fact, which is basically all but a few. 
And Biden definitely isn't the guy to make this happen. Not sure if anyone has what it takes to do the right thing, in which case it doesn't really matter who the nominee is. This country is fucked. >

ALL you wanna see is people you don’t like punished for their wrongdoing? What about free healthcare, fixing the broken legal system, workers rights, legal weed, housing the homeless, education, trans rights, reproductive rights etc? 
Don’t let the media’s coverage of the insurrection distract you from the real problems that actually need fixing and impact everyone’s day to day life. >

Exactly. January 6th was shitty but it’s nothing compared to the ongoing, decades long atrocities and the deep corruption in our healthcare, immigration, education, and economic systems. 
Making January 6th your top priority is going to play out like the Mueller investigation: it won’t end in justice. The problem is much deeper than one incident. >

Jan 6th is like Pearl Harbor, the titanic, the holocaust and 9/11 all rolled into one. It’s that big of a deal and we must never forget or focus on anything else until we are all satisfied with justice being served. >

I think dems might screw themselves over if they end up wanting to boot biden even if he keeps doing good things and getting positive press. >

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like Democrats wanted someone else for 2020 right up to the point that he trounced everyone in the primaries. I don't know any Biden Democrats (me and everyone else in my little circle wanted Warren) but apparently they are out there and they really want an establishment, 80's style politician in the White House. >

We need someone younger and more progressive. >

If Biden was 10 or 5 years younger his poll numbers would be 5 or 6 pts higher then they are now. The only serious thing dragging him down with democrats is his age.
But lets be serious. There are no other democratic names that have his standing and ability to rally the democratic party at the moment who have spoken about wanting a real race in 2023. There simply isn't the appetite for "anyone but biden" conversations. Bernie is older, and not palatable to centrists and conservative dems, and no one else has the ground game to even begin the fight. Harris is not popular outside California and has been almost  non-entity in the Biden Administration, beyond that she doesn't have appeal to younger voters and progressives.
So we got Biden. If he runs he'll probably face Trump again, and the win will probably be even larger then last time, as Trump is not as popular as he was pre-Jan 6th. Desantis could beat Trump, but such a win would fracture the Republicans as Trump has the real crazies who will never accept someone not handpicked by Trump. And Trump is unlikely to accept anyone winning who isn't him and doesn't literally kiss his ring.
Bottom Line. Dems are stuck with Biden, because no one else has the party and the money and the ground game. >

He's a great guy, but he's too old.  The party needs new blood.
But if he's the nominee versus whatever f*ing monster the GOP puts forward, then he sure as hell will get my vote. >

Biden set voting records.  Why try to fix what is not broken? >

No one is completely happy with their politicians except for the cult. We're always going to want a better candidate but all these articles are just bullshit stirring of the pot trying to divide the left.
Biden is doing a whole lot better than I expected. If he runs again the party won't support a challenger. So it's completely moot. If he decides to step aside he'll have to do in the next couple of months so the next options have the time to mount a successful campaign. Either way the ball is in his court.
TL;DR no one runs against an incumbent. Media is trying to stir and cause division on the left. >

We wanted someone else in 2020 and 2016 too. >

Not sure about you, but I got exactly who I wanted in 2020.
Which was basically anyone but Trump. >

I don't disagree with this statement.   My point was simply that the DNC seems to choose the worst most inept candidates for us to vote for. >

Well, if you remember, Biden was in 8th place after Super Tuesday and the DNC made literally everyone still in at the time pull out of the race to dogpile on him out of fear of Sanders commanding lead.
At the end of the day, the establishment will protect itself and that's not going to change. >

I do remember.   That's why I'm dumbfounded by all these downvotes.   The DNC literally did everything in their power to push the more popular candidates out in favor of Biden.
Same with 2016 when they basically gave the nomination to Hillary before the first primary even started.    Even after Bernie kept winning state after state, the narrative was all about the Super Delegates giving Hillary the nomination.
People have a very short memory. >

I think it's people having a short memory combined with them not wanting to remember and also being unwilling to validate the desired policies of younger voters who they constantly shit on, yet demand support from. >

Nah, Joe's fine. >

Running out of time to pitch someone better. 
Harris is a trainwreck, Buttigieg is a snake (read up on his time with McKinsey), and Sanders (the one good option) isn't getting any younger. >

Katie Porter is the answer, I'd like to see her run regardless. At the very least as a counterpoint to the clown show that will be the GOP primary to drag the conversation back to reality as Biden will remain above the fray. >

She's excellent, but wasn't her last election very close? >

She lives in a very Republican area. >

It’s honestly a little annoying that this is even controversial. Democracy is dying, we need someone younger that excites people. Especially since Desantis will likely run as the fresh, young(er) face of the Republican Party. Nobody gets passionate about a career politician in his 80’s. >

I don’t want anyone else at this point. All this clickbait media talk of “someone else” is fucking delusional less than 2 years from the election. >

I want someone younger. Someone that knows what the cost of housing is today. Someone that isn't old enough to collect Social Security. Not Mayor Pete. >

Biden can run and win BUT he has to answer the GOP/GOP Media campaign that he has mental impairment.  It's really the only thing the GOP media has been able to use against Biden.
So Biden takes an MoCA test and publishes it.
It's a fair ask on any canddiate from 70's on. >

Would that be the test Trump claimed he ‘aced’?
If even someone as mentally impaired as Trump is able to pass it I declare higher standards. For both.
Let’s see how your golden boy Donnie ‘aces’ anything more complex than ‘person, woman, man, camera, tv’. >

And this is how dems let donnie win again. FFS >

It’s not healthy for democracy when you have (in 2020) a 74yo President and 78yo candidate for President.  An 80yo speaker. A 70yo Senate Majority Leader. A 78yo senate minority leader. 
Come on - where is the talent being transitioned into leadership while they are at their working peak?
If Biden (82) and Trump (78) face off in 2024 it will just be sad.
Kudos to Pelosi for handing over so smoothly.  I hope both the Dems and GOP do the same for President in 2024. >

please for god sake. and not hillary clinton. please. just a rational, sane human being >

Some Democrats want change. Many of us like Biden. >

The Democratic Party is really a loose coalition of many different factions.
The Republicans tried to portray their house speaker debacle by saying that was a sign of healthy democracy, to question the status quo. Lol.
Then they will turn right around and say that progressives who like the Bernie Sanders or AOC types hate Biden and will defect from him!!!111
Well I'm one of those, and I might not hate the guy but he certainly not in my top three candidates of choice.
But if he runs as the incumbent in 2024 and there is no primary, then of course I'm going to support him. The Republican Party of fascism is in its death throws and I'm all too eager to twist the knife.
2028 could roll around with the GOP having been completely imploded Allah the Whig party pre-civil war.
That primary will be fun to engage in. >

I would vote for him again. He has done a good job.
He is really old. I would like someone else. >

Never got help with education or affording childcare. Politicians made it clear, the child rearing generations don’t matter. Only the Medicare generation. >

If it's Trump I want Biden to run. That's as close to a sure thing at this point that Biden would defeat Trump.
If it's DeSantis I think Dems gotta go with younger blood. >

Median voter age is 39-45. He’s like double that. We just want someone that’s even in the ballpark of the average. >

This democrat doesn’t. If he runs and there’s a primary, it’s a 95% chance that I’m voting for him unless there’s a health scare. >

I just don't want any geriatric fucks running no offense Biden / Trump / Sanders. >

Democrats wanted someone else last time, too.
What difference did that make? >

As a person, he's a good and decent man. As a 2020 candidate he was the right person to run because he was probably the only one who could have beaten Trump - a white, male, establishment moderate that less-hardline conservatives who were done with Trump could vote for without feeling guilty or like they were betraying all their values. As a president, he's been fine on some things, disappointing on others, great on very few, and overall hasn't been anywhere near progressive enough for my taste.
He has, fortunately, assisted in my sleep at night and for the last two years at least I've gotten to wake up every morning without my first panicked thought being "oh God what did he tweet."
He's too old. He shouldn't seek a second term and someone much younger needs to run. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries should step up to the plate. >

We need a younger generation & while he is proving to b a lot more of a democrat than Obama or Clinton it’s not gonna b enough in the most important ways especially into 2024 when the GOP won’t leave office if they win imo >

Promoting someone else for 2024 is a proactive move. The Dem strategy has relied too heavily on the "that's how it's always been done" model and the smarter dems have had it. >

Democrats have an insanely strong bench but all these old folks won’t get out of the way. >

Please GOD, may we have a candidate who is not over 70 years old. >

Bernie will beat trump if bernie runs >

I have nothing specific against Biden himself. Maybe the way we handled Afganistan. But the dude is in his 80s. He’s just too damn old. >

Give me Whitmer or give me death >

I’d love someone younger, but ALL I care about is winning that election. I will take anyone from Manchin to Bernie. Anyone. >

I didn't vote for Biden. I voted for Kamila Harris >

Don’t know where a WP opinion piece gets off telling us that we democrats want someone else.  Don’t remember being asked by WP my opinion…so here it goes…I (a life-long FDR democrat) love Joe and highly encourage him to run and be elected in 2024.  Maybe at this most early stage of election 2024 coverage, the WP should keep their unhelpful, inaccurate and unwanted opinions to themselves. >

Nothing personal, Joe probably feels the same. GIVE ME PETE!! >

Just make Obama a monarch already. Voting power is so cringe >

I don't want Biden to run in 2024, but I'll gladly vote for him over any republican who runs. >

Democrats who feel this way aren't dissatisfied with Biden, they just want somebody younger. >

As a Progressive, you know where I stand but Dark Brandon was amusing to see. 
I am not dissatisfied with him as it feels pretty good not to have panic attacks in the middle of the night wondering what Orange Cheetolini said during the night. >

I love how right wingers say he’s senile, but in the next breath make him out to be some brilliant tactician and political mastermind. I’m not sure how that works. >

It’s important to recognize that Biden has a fluency disorder and the changes to his speech, are related to that. It’s simply discrimination. They know that the orange haired Cheetolini actually has signs of cognitive change, and had no problem letting that slide. It’s simply discrimination against a disability to slander someone you don’t like. >

I will always say this, as someone who had a grandfather with dementia, trump reminds me of my grandfather. Biden just reminds me of someone who is getting older. >

Biden just has a stutter that he's worked very hard to overcome. I've worked with and been friends with people with much more severe speech disorders. It's not any cognitive decline, just difficulty with speech. >

I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have to constantly correct your speech for years. Tbh, I’m glad we have a president who shows it’s ok to sometimes struggle with things. It makes him more endearing and relatable. I wasn’t necessarily talking about his speaking abilities when I said he was getting older, I meant more so some of the memory related things or the tripping. I’d never make fun of him for having an actual speech disorder or impediment. >

This isn't talked about often but Biden actually takes time to work with/meet and talk to children who have speech issues similar to his. >


But despite these accomplishments, only 47 percent of Democrats want him to seek a second term.

And do the other 53% support the same person or a bunch of different people, many of them not even having someone specific in mind? >

I want a progressive politician that is under the age of 60... that is all. >

A progressive in the general would lose moderate votes to a (not crazy) Republican candidate and would result in a Republican president.  If the next Republican president is as ambitious as Trump but actually smart it will be the last president we ever vote for.
I want a Progressive president.  But I'm willing to compromise and accept a moderate Democrat in order to prevent the end of our democracy. >

Bernie would 100% have won against Trump. >

A guy who lost two primaries by huge margins twice in a row was gonna run a campaign for the real thing and win? >

I think we have different definitions of huge margins >

In 2020, Biden got more than twice the number of votes that Bernie got.
In 2016 Hilary got about 40% more, winning 17 million to 13 million. >

You need to use Bernie Math to calculate the true margins >

I'd like to be clear, as I am someone who would rather have another candidate:
I don't want Biden to run again in 2024, but will I vote for him if he does?
Abso-fucking-lutely >

Not this headline, again >

I'd vote twice for AOC. >

Yea, sure.  A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.  I'd prefer Warren, some would prefer Bernie.  Others switched out of the GOP registration just because the GOP went crazy and would really rather have an old school chamber of commerce republican.
It's a big tent, Biden does well to get a plurality, and we'll all go and vote for him when he's the nominee. >


A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.

Need to think general election not primaries.
Biden has excellent record.  The ONLY negative that GOP media has made stick is the mental acuity issue, so take the test. >

It's kind of funny how Hunter is the only thing that the right has been pushing on Biden character assassination wise.
Like after how many decades of politics, the most they have is an extremely tenuous accusation of nepotism? >

After Trump, GOP accusations of nepotism falls flat on its face. >

Rules for thee, not for me. >

I do? Not really. I want him to be a boring, almost out of mind President who continues to get shit done. There's not a single potential candidate I trust more than Biden right now in this political moment. >

Trust more to be productive or trust more to get elected? >

Yes. >

This is one of those times when the media talks about a non-story so much for so long, they make it the story.
It's precisely how they made Trump president. They talked about him to the exclusion of every other candidate, and what do you know? Ignoring everyone else had the effect of making him president.  
And now they're doing it to make sure Biden doesn't run again. They're simply going to make it "common knowledge" that nobody wants Biden to run. And in this way, they will make it so. >

Polling before and after the holiday break suggests a majority of dems don’t want Biden to run
Independent of his accomplishments he would be 86 by the end of his 2nd term
The average life span in the US is 77 >

Mitch McConnell is 80. Where are the articles about him running for re-election? >

This is a huge issue with these articles. They also ignore the fact that while people would prefer to vote for someone younger, that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for Joe Biden because he's old. >

Biden is doing a phenomenal job. No complaints. >

Agreed. He has been the most legislatively successful president since Johnson and he did so with razor thin majorities. My only complaint against him is that the withdrawal from Afghanistan could have been better planned, but even then he still ended America’s longest war. >

Better planning would have required at least some coordination with the outgoing administration.  They were not forthcoming. >

Do we, though?
For a moment literally just stop and count up the wins. While the GOP literally can't not fuck up nominating their own speaker with a majority, Biden has major wins on a number of fronts. Despite a radically stacked court. >

No "we" don't.  This is "the media's" job.  They did it with Clinton.  The did it with Pelosi.  They did it win Sanders.  They did it with Harris.  It's what they believe is their job.  I read the Palmer Report to remind myself that it's not about journalism.  It's about clicks. >

This isn't about what we "want", it's about who can win. Biden has proven to be capable of beating Trump, should he somehow against all odds be the opposition. There are no viable, energizing candidates on the docket, and trying to switch to someone else just because of their age at this point will surely spell a loss for Democrats.
They're stuck with Trump, we're most likely stuck with Biden. But at least Biden is a winner, like him or not. >

Dems haven’t tested the theory of who could beat trump outside of HRC
Hard to imagine a Gretchen Whitmer, Mark Kelly, or Josh Shapiro wouldn’t be a better bet to snag moderates and IND voters
I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything >


I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything.

Trump could be a vegetable, hell he already has the mental capacity of one, and the entire GOP voting base would slurp him up like sweet orange nectar.
I'm all for alternatives, but I'm not willing to risk a second Trump presidency just because Biden is old. Find an alternative that could actually win, and I'll take a look. >

Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas
The pool of potential options to beat trump is deep
US voters shouldn’t be held hostage by and 82 year old because he’s better than the worst option >


Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas

I'm no science man, but I think it's a little premature to say "Mission Accomplished" on Trumpism. And as for the pool of potential options, I haven't seen a single one step up to challenge Trump yet in any meaningful sense. >

I don’t want to put the cart before the horse, but look at GA, trumpism lost on a split ticket vote
We’re at the point now where just being able to beat Trump shouldn’t be the only platform a candidate runs on
Dems should strategize for a bigger piece of the pie
Focus on winning back the Latino vote in TX and FL, then they really won’t have to worry about trumpism >

Before joining The Post, Byler was chief elections analyst and a staff writer at the Weekly Standard, >

It’s absolutely insane to me that people would want to throw away the incumbent advantage and the good will he has earned simply because “old”. 
If he’s capable of doing the job, there’s no reason to gamble on someone else when there are no clear candidates on the table. >


If he’s capable of doing the job

If.
Dude’s ancient. We don’t know what might happen between now and then, but he could just die of old age or suffer some kind of debilitating health issue. Hence why it’s better to go for someone younger. If Biden remains hale, I don’t see a problem with him running again, but that’s far from a guarantee. >

That's true. There's nothing in place in the constitution in case the president becomes incapacitated, and who knows if the Dems could withstand a national special election for the president. >

Actually the constitution has plenty to say about presidential incapacitation, but it remains highly problematic regardless of the failsafes. >

You're the reason why people use the /s qualifier >

I have long since learned not to underestimate the confident Dunning-Kruger stupidity of people on the internet. >

Does anyone with any sense actually believe that Biden's experience and acumen were not directly responsible for the legislative achievement of the last few years. I don't think that some younger - although more media presentable - will accomplish nearly as much. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >

Exactly >

someone that will enforce rule of law.
put a head of doj that will hold trump, bannon, flynn, stone, giuliani, thiel and other fascists criminals , putin russian money laudnerers, insurrectionists accountable and sent to prison... >

What if….and hear me out….it was someone that was in touch with generations that aren’t members of AARP? Maybe someone that actually gives a shit about the poor and working class? I dunno, too much to ask? >

Biden was the first democratic president I voted for… honestly as it goes so far.  I would vote for him again if he ran.  He doesn’t inspire awe for me, but I’ve not been unhappy with his progress either.  This alone is a good thing and worth a vote from me. >

End the fuxking federal prohibition on cannabis. How hard is it to just do this shit?!?! Stop taking money from for-profit prisons, alcohol and pharma and just do it.!.! >

I wan’t someone who will make it to 2028. Is that really too much to ask in a country of 360,000,000 people to pick from for a candidate? >

Anyone under 70 please >

Under 50 would be nice >

I don't think he could create the buzz again to beat DeSantis, they better hope Trump ruins the right's path and splits the vote. >

I'll say it, I want a younger president, but if it has to be Joe Biden, he'll get my vote again. He's done quite a bit, and any step in the progressive direction is better than allowing another authoritarian fascist win again. >

Honestly, he's done a way better job than I expected, and until he gives us reason to believe he won't continue to do that, we should just roll with him in 2024.  Age be damned.  The only thing about his age that changes things for me is that it makes the VP pick more important. 
 Maybe switch out VP picks for someone more progressive than Kamala in case he kicks the bucket while in office. >

Overall, Biden has exceeded my expectations. He's not perfect, no one is. But he's also going on 80. No disrespect to any older folks, but I want a presidential candidate under the age of 70. 
Biden seems pretty sharp overall but at his age, when declines do set in, they can be extremely rapid. >

If Biden steps down, sure. But the people who think primarying him is a good idea are morons. That's how you give Trump or Desantis the white house. >

I want somebody else, but doubt there will be anybody else who's as viable. >

As a foreigner following US politics, I gotta say, how is this possible? A country of 300 million with 50 separate legislative systems, and you guys can't find a single presidential candidate that is reasonably experienced, has good character and can talk to people, and not going to be pushing 90 at the end of his or her presidency? Something must be broken, somewhere... >

Who? >

I don't. >

Like in 2020, if Trump gets the nomination again (seems likely), then ANY DEMOCRAT will beat him...again...even Biden. >

Biden's a fine president. I just don't want him to die in office. That kind of thing is traumatic for the country. >

Nah, I’m more and more down for Joe. Before I was just fine. He’s been doing pretty good imo. >

If the GOP can have the last four years of Reagan dementia, we can have four more years of Old Joe. >

I want Joe Biden. >

I don't want someone else.  Biden is doing an awesome job >

I dont.. he has accomplished so much more than I thought he would. At the start I had my doubts. But now, Im %100 voting for him again if he runs. >

Yes I'd prefer someone younger and more progressive than Biden but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him when he's inevitably the nominee in 2024. >

No we don't. I hate this stupid narrative from the people that helped give us Trump. >

No we fucking don't. >

Right wing propaganda trying to split support from Biden as usual w his age as only crutch. 
Dude even got McConnell working w him and right doesn't know what to do. >

If someone better was 2nd in line, I think I would not mind if he ran again as much.  
Seeing an 80+ year old pretend to be in his 40’s and run the election gauntlet and possibly become too Ill to compete, or worse, die and leave Harris to lose the election to Trump is my nightmare. >

I do think the VP part of this situation is what is most uncomfortable for people. >

It should be.  If he makes it all of the way through re-election, it is incredibly possible we will have his vice president take over operations at some point either due to frailty or death.  
I mostly fear a full bore campaign trail.  He didn’t have that last time.  Kamila isn’t electable to a large amount of Democratic voters and Trump (or DeSantis) will get to ordain himself Emperor for life.  All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate. >


All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate.

i don't even think they have one. pete's a boomer's idea of a next generation candidate, kamala's obviously DOA, bernie's got next generation policy but too old. decades of this same leadership clinging onto power until the last second has crushed the party's ability to build a pool of qualified presidential candidates. >

Andy Beshear is 45 & Gretchen Whitmer is 51 >

Biden was handed a shit show and has guided us through it with a steady hand.  Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.  He deserves another term. >


Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.

yeah, holy shit, some people are thick. Pretty much every country suffered from inflation post-COVID. Supply chains were not back to normal, people started spending again, Russia invaded Ukraine causing oil and grain prices to soar which further made transporting all goods increase and the price was passed on further to consumers. Republicans were all attacking Biden over inflation while voting against Bills to help curb inflation. >

Not all of us want someone different. Advanced age is a positive thing in a town like D.C. as long as someone is not senile. Alot of people think Biden is senile, but if you watch a speech or a press conference in its entirety its easy to see he is not. His experience with the processes in D.C. enabled him to get a ton of positive things done in the 2 years he had both houses of congress behind him.  Good job Joe! >

Based on the rate in which the incumbent wins, only Republicans should want someone other than Joe Biden. >

I know right. Who the heck is pushing that narrative?
I want Biden and no one else for 2024, i can't currently see anyone else that can win against a De Santis >

They want someone as incredibly experienced and effective as Biden in  younger body.  Because unicorns >

Then they better put someone up that has a strong chance of beating DeSantis, and that is not Harris, and it is not Bernie. >

The first priority is to keep Republicans at bay, out of the hen house. If there is someone who is bolder, more progressive than Biden and electable, then that's who we need going forward. >

Love the guy but we need somebody younger and energetic, the challenges and danger are too great >

I want someone else, but I'll take anyone who will keep a fascist out of the white house. >

Someone under the age of 70 would be a great start. >

I'm pleasantly surprised at how he's been getting stuff done. Now we need to pack the courts with more liberal leaning judges. >

So does everybody else. So far he has been what we expected. A non trump, non crazy, stop gap bridge to something better. Hopefully he would get a couple of the things he campaigned on in place. 
As a member of the working class I want someone in office that will actually represent our interests. Ive yet to see that in my lifetime. But we have been close the last two elections.
With that said ill take a centrist democrat over any current republicans in office. Ill vote my choice in primaries and fall in line in the general. Its not ideal but it works, at least better than the alternative, and the repubs have showed us that election after election after election. >

Give me Newsom if Biden doesn't want to run because I think he can actually do the job. Do not under any circumstance run Harris. That's almost a guaranteed loss. >

Newsom would be the natural choice, executive running the sixth largest economy in the world and very diverse state that is only 42% White. >

Well, somebody wants "democrats" to want someone else, because that would certainly help Republicans, wouldn't it? >

Newsom said he would not run against Biden.  Now if Biden decides not to run, I would like to see Newsom run >

He’s so fucking old.  I can’t look at his decrepit ass anymore.  Please someone younger than 60.  Please.  We are begging you.  We don’t like Biden, never did, but we had to vote for him.  That’s the only reason.  There was no other choice. >

I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primarily due to his age and due to his stance on gun rights. (Gun rights are a big issue for me even though I lean left on most other things)
Having said that, Biden has really impressed me, and I’ll definitely be voting for him in 2024 if he runs again. Regardless of his age, he’s shown that he can handle the job, he’s stood up to the Russians, he’s gotten a lot of bills through Congress, and he’s shown no real political will to ban assault weapons, which was the main reason I was skeptical of him to begin with. As long as he continues down this path he’s got my vote. >

I want Mark Kelly. >

I don’t love Biden, but dark Brandon is getting shit done. If he has a couple more senators and 2 more justices we could actually fix some things >

Biden reminds me of a cute old grandpa tbh that's it he seems like a really cool person. >

He’s done a much better job than I expected, but Joe is old. We need some younger, more progressive leaders for our future. >

Gaining ground? Towards what, the ice cream truck? >

I don’t mind if he runs again, I’d just rather have a candidate who I don’t think will die in office. Dark Brandon is too old for this shit, if I make it to 80 I’m sure as hell not working minimum 60 hour weeks managing the most powerful country in the world. That’s a lot for the throat goat to handle >

We do? Who do we want? >

I'd actually prefer Biden over other Democrats in 2024. Not because I align with him politically, but because I think we need the incumbency advantage and a continuously in power president for the Republican attempts to steal the election in 2024 which are definitely coming. If the election's results are heavily disputed, as I bet they will be, we should have the default president be a Democrat.
If we nominate a Democrat who isn't Biden, then when the chaos comes, the presidency is a big question mark after January 20th, and the question of 'who is the president' receives a different answer depending on who you're asking. Whereas, if we keep Biden, then at least Biden would be president during that tumultuous period, and the question 'who is president right now' is at least still Biden.
I'm a little cynical about the future of the US, in case you can't tell. >

I like Biden more than most of Reddit. Main reason is that he is focused on country -- and that's the only option for a complex country like the US if it has to survive. Also because he is centrist, which is a dirty word on this website.
However, I don't want him to run in 2024 because executing the President's job between the ages of 82-86 is an unfair expectation of any human. As a guy who isn't too hung up about himself, I suspect Biden doesn't want to either, but he is very dependent on a strong contender emerging to replace him.
While the Republicans remind us daily of the clowns they are, the Democratic idiocy should also not be forgotten. The party is quite fragmented and all over the place. >

To be fair, we wanted someone different in 2020 as well. >

I like Biden but the Dems desperately need to pass the baton to the next generation. 
I'd love to see Andy Beshear, Jarad Polis or Ned Lamont get tapped. Laura Kelly may be an option too. >

Unpopular opinion: the next generation needs to earn that baton rather than it just be handed to them. >

I apologize for playing the role of Captain Obvious, but that baton is going to have to be picked up eventually. No one lives forever. >

Sounds like they should be getting to work, then. 
As evil as he is, DeSantis has been appealing to the Republican base around the country for awhile now. There are no younger candidates on the left doing that effectively. >

It's easy to appeal to idiots when all you have to do is lie to them and spout off the bigotry they like to hear.  The problem for democrats is that the depth chart is weak because the old fucks won't go away. >

Simple solution: Win primaries.
The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts. >


The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts.

Technically speaking, that's a problem across the board, and not necessarily with the 18-35 demographic. 
Simply put, a lot of people just don't show up to the polls, regardless of the reason, whether it be disillusionment, apathy, work conflicts, lack of access, etc. >

Oh for sure. Nobody is off the hook. We haven’t had a midterm election with over 50% turnout in literally over a century, and that obviously doesn’t even count primaries.
The younger generation though has a pretty uniquely awful track record though. I mean when articles are being written patting them on the back for the “second highest turnout in history”, and only 27% showed up last year, it’s a problem. When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections. >


When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections.

Absolutely agreed. But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand. You're right that the choices about how we're governed are made by people who bother to show up and vote. The other side of that coin is old people accepting responsibility for the fucked up situations created by voting for shitty people for decades. Let's hear it, old folks, step up and take the blame you deserve.
And in taking that blame, acknowledge that you might not have all the right answers about how to vote now, and listen to young people who at least 1) have to live in the world they're voting on, and 2) don't have a long track record of choosing morons for office.
Sorry for the edits. >


But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand.

Gen X's first presidential elections were 84 and 88. Check how they voted then. Problem doesn't go away with the Me generation. >

Can we please just be as blindly loyal as Republicans until Trump dies? >

We won't be. Like every other opportunity, we'll piss it away. (I say this as a lifelong Dem who is so tired of taking the high road. Dark Brandon makes me happy. Let's keep doing it.) >

Yeah. I mostly like Joe Biden especially as president but I don't want to go out here worshipping him like some do Trump. Decking my room with Biden merch seems so unnecessary lol. >

The worship is what's frightening to me. Proudly voted for Obama and Joe Biden because I thought they were the best choice. I was voting for POTUS, not joining a cut. No need for clothing, signs, or  bumper stickers. >

No, we don’t. >

We do not. I wasn’t polled. Dark Brandon until he says no more. >

He needs to run again. Incumbents have a massive head start. If he would have picked a stronger VP, then I’d be ok with him retiring but we can’t afford to risk one of these nutty republicans winning. >

Bullshit. >

No we don’t >

I was one of the people that voted for Biden just because he wasn't Trump. I didn't want him at all, but it beat the alternative.
Now after 2 years of watching him go, I would happily vote for him again. No one is more surprised than I am by this. >

Biden is doing well, And he should finish out his agenda. We can talk about who is next after his 8 years. Democrats and the Americans people by extension, are very happy with him. >

Is this ageism? Yes the democrat leadership is old but very knowledgeable and successful driving polices thru in spite of 100% Republican opposition. This is no small feat. >

I don't see anyone else running against DeSantis and winning. If the economy improves and Russia is defeated then I think the current admin should stay. >

Biden has done a great job. Now fucking retire and let a new generation take the wheel. >

If only there were a popular grownup to take the wheel. >

Based on two years of President Biden, I would be happy with another four years of President Biden. >

No I don't. Stop trying to stir up shit for clicks. >

I'd vote for him in 2024 speak for yourself Jeff Bezos >

i'm a dem and i'm fine with joe. >

I like Biden cuz he gets stuff done and doesn’t complain or blame others. 
He treats others with respect even if they don’t see eye to eye. 
He thinks before he speaks. 
These are REAL leadership qualities. >

All I want for 2024 is justice for January 6th. And I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about every republican member of Congress who supported him, refused to hold him accountable for a fucking coup attempt, or endorsed his efforts after the fact, which is basically all but a few. 
And Biden definitely isn't the guy to make this happen. Not sure if anyone has what it takes to do the right thing, in which case it doesn't really matter who the nominee is. This country is fucked. >

ALL you wanna see is people you don’t like punished for their wrongdoing? What about free healthcare, fixing the broken legal system, workers rights, legal weed, housing the homeless, education, trans rights, reproductive rights etc? 
Don’t let the media’s coverage of the insurrection distract you from the real problems that actually need fixing and impact everyone’s day to day life. >

Exactly. January 6th was shitty but it’s nothing compared to the ongoing, decades long atrocities and the deep corruption in our healthcare, immigration, education, and economic systems. 
Making January 6th your top priority is going to play out like the Mueller investigation: it won’t end in justice. The problem is much deeper than one incident. >

Jan 6th is like Pearl Harbor, the titanic, the holocaust and 9/11 all rolled into one. It’s that big of a deal and we must never forget or focus on anything else until we are all satisfied with justice being served. >

I think dems might screw themselves over if they end up wanting to boot biden even if he keeps doing good things and getting positive press. >

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like Democrats wanted someone else for 2020 right up to the point that he trounced everyone in the primaries. I don't know any Biden Democrats (me and everyone else in my little circle wanted Warren) but apparently they are out there and they really want an establishment, 80's style politician in the White House. >

We need someone younger and more progressive. >

He's a great guy, but he's too old.  The party needs new blood.
But if he's the nominee versus whatever f*ing monster the GOP puts forward, then he sure as hell will get my vote. >

Meh, this article is kind of pointless, and I’m not sure their numbers back up their conclusion >

No one is completely happy with their politicians except for the cult. We're always going to want a better candidate but all these articles are just bullshit stirring of the pot trying to divide the left.
Biden is doing a whole lot better than I expected. If he runs again the party won't support a challenger. So it's completely moot. If he decides to step aside he'll have to do in the next couple of months so the next options have the time to mount a successful campaign. Either way the ball is in his court.
TL;DR no one runs against an incumbent. Media is trying to stir and cause division on the left. >

We wanted someone else in 2020 and 2016 too. >

Not sure about you, but I got exactly who I wanted in 2020.
Which was basically anyone but Trump. >

I don't disagree with this statement.   My point was simply that the DNC seems to choose the worst most inept candidates for us to vote for. >

Well, if you remember, Biden was in 8th place after Super Tuesday and the DNC made literally everyone still in at the time pull out of the race to dogpile on him out of fear of Sanders commanding lead.
At the end of the day, the establishment will protect itself and that's not going to change. >

I do remember.   That's why I'm dumbfounded by all these downvotes.   The DNC literally did everything in their power to push the more popular candidates out in favor of Biden.
Same with 2016 when they basically gave the nomination to Hillary before the first primary even started.    Even after Bernie kept winning state after state, the narrative was all about the Super Delegates giving Hillary the nomination.
People have a very short memory. >

I think it's people having a short memory combined with them not wanting to remember and also being unwilling to validate the desired policies of younger voters who they constantly shit on, yet demand support from. >

We do?? Why? Biden is getting shit done. >

Nah, Joe's fine. >

Running out of time to pitch someone better. 
Harris is a trainwreck, Buttigieg is a snake (read up on his time with McKinsey), and Sanders (the one good option) isn't getting any younger. >

Katie Porter is the answer, I'd like to see her run regardless. At the very least as a counterpoint to the clown show that will be the GOP primary to drag the conversation back to reality as Biden will remain above the fray. >

She's excellent, but wasn't her last election very close? >

She lives in a very Republican area. >

It’s honestly a little annoying that this is even controversial. Democracy is dying, we need someone younger that excites people. Especially since Desantis will likely run as the fresh, young(er) face of the Republican Party. Nobody gets passionate about a career politician in his 80’s. >

I don’t want anyone else at this point. All this clickbait media talk of “someone else” is fucking delusional less than 2 years from the election. >

I want someone younger. Someone that knows what the cost of housing is today. Someone that isn't old enough to collect Social Security. Not Mayor Pete. >

Biden can run and win BUT he has to answer the GOP/GOP Media campaign that he has mental impairment.  It's really the only thing the GOP media has been able to use against Biden.
So Biden takes an MoCA test and publishes it.
It's a fair ask on any canddiate from 70's on. >

You're giving Fox News far, far too much credit.
It's not the case that a younger Biden or a Clinton that never used email or an Obama who released a longform birth certificate would be fine in their books.
Whoever the 2024 nominee is, the Trump crowd will 100% argue some grounds on which they should be disqualified. Ditto 2028.
They aren't operating in good faith. 
You can want Biden to submit to whatever, proceed. But don't argue that he should do it because then Fox News won't have anything to use against him. They will. They always will. And when you say stuff like that you're not only wrong, you're legitimizing Trump world by operating as if they're good faith actors.
They aren't. The starting point is Democrats are disqualified. They backfill the rest later and will always do so, no matter what you do. >

If Biden was 10 or 5 years younger his poll numbers would be 5 or 6 pts higher then they are now. The only serious thing dragging him down with democrats is his age.
But lets be serious. There are no other democratic names that have his standing and ability to rally the democratic party at the moment who have spoken about wanting a real race in 2023. There simply isn't the appetite for "anyone but biden" conversations. Bernie is older, and not palatable to centrists and conservative dems, and no one else has the ground game to even begin the fight. Harris is not popular outside California and has been almost  non-entity in the Biden Administration, beyond that she doesn't have appeal to younger voters and progressives.
So we got Biden. If he runs he'll probably face Trump again, and the win will probably be even larger then last time, as Trump is not as popular as he was pre-Jan 6th. Desantis could beat Trump, but such a win would fracture the Republicans as Trump has the real crazies who will never accept someone not handpicked by Trump. And Trump is unlikely to accept anyone winning who isn't him and doesn't literally kiss his ring.
Bottom Line. Dems are stuck with Biden, because no one else has the party and the money and the ground game. >

And this is how dems let donnie win again. FFS >

Biden set voting records.  Why try to fix what is not broken? >

Not-Trump set voting records. >

It’s not healthy for democracy when you have (in 2020) a 74yo President and 78yo candidate for President.  An 80yo speaker. A 70yo Senate Majority Leader. A 78yo senate minority leader. 
Come on - where is the talent being transitioned into leadership while they are at their working peak?
If Biden (82) and Trump (78) face off in 2024 it will just be sad.
Kudos to Pelosi for handing over so smoothly.  I hope both the Dems and GOP do the same for President in 2024. >

please for god sake. and not hillary clinton. please. just a rational, sane human being >

Biden, Hilary, or Kamala = a GOP win if they don’t have DT split the party.
Biden will be blamed for inflation, yes, smart people know that it is across the globe. But Smart people do not make make up the majority of the voters. 
Hilary is tainted for life. 
Kamala is just not a person a majority can get behind. Her VP stent did not improve her personality or likability. 
I am glad Dems are seeing it because DeSantis will eat them up. >

Some Democrats want change. Many of us like Biden. >

The Democratic Party is really a loose coalition of many different factions.
The Republicans tried to portray their house speaker debacle by saying that was a sign of healthy democracy, to question the status quo. Lol.
Then they will turn right around and say that progressives who like the Bernie Sanders or AOC types hate Biden and will defect from him!!!111
Well I'm one of those, and I might not hate the guy but he certainly not in my top three candidates of choice.
But if he runs as the incumbent in 2024 and there is no primary, then of course I'm going to support him. The Republican Party of fascism is in its death throws and I'm all too eager to twist the knife.
2028 could roll around with the GOP having been completely imploded Allah the Whig party pre-civil war.
That primary will be fun to engage in. >

I would vote for him again. He has done a good job.
He is really old. I would like someone else. >

Never got help with education or affording childcare. Politicians made it clear, the child rearing generations don’t matter. Only the Medicare generation. >

If it's Trump I want Biden to run. That's as close to a sure thing at this point that Biden would defeat Trump.
If it's DeSantis I think Dems gotta go with younger blood. >

Median voter age is 39-45. He’s like double that. We just want someone that’s even in the ballpark of the average. >

This democrat doesn’t. If he runs and there’s a primary, it’s a 95% chance that I’m voting for him unless there’s a health scare. >

I just don't want any geriatric fucks running no offense Biden / Trump / Sanders. >

Democrats wanted someone else last time, too.
What difference did that make? >

As a person, he's a good and decent man. As a 2020 candidate he was the right person to run because he was probably the only one who could have beaten Trump - a white, male, establishment moderate that less-hardline conservatives who were done with Trump could vote for without feeling guilty or like they were betraying all their values. As a president, he's been fine on some things, disappointing on others, great on very few, and overall hasn't been anywhere near progressive enough for my taste.
He has, fortunately, assisted in my sleep at night and for the last two years at least I've gotten to wake up every morning without my first panicked thought being "oh God what did he tweet."
He's too old. He shouldn't seek a second term and someone much younger needs to run. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries should step up to the plate. >

Democrats, meaning registered Democrats, may want someone else and someone younger. I can understand that, but to be honest, I like Biden and wish we could count on him living forever. But seeing how that plan worked out for Ginsberg, maybe it is time to move on.
Another relevant question is whether the Democrats have anyone else to offer that a majority of Americans will vote for?
I personally don't know the answer to this but one thing I have learned over the last decade or so is that the political polling  industry can be practically useless at times. 
Party insiders seem to want to be able to run Biden against a bruised up Donald Trump, always indicted but never quite convicted. Running against MAGA election deniers worked out pretty well for the Democrats in 2022. Can we still run against MAGA election deniers without Trump actually running? Is anyone else going to beat Trump in 2024? >

We need a younger generation & while he is proving to b a lot more of a democrat than Obama or Clinton it’s not gonna b enough in the most important ways especially into 2024 when the GOP won’t leave office if they win imo >

Promoting someone else for 2024 is a proactive move. The Dem strategy has relied too heavily on the "that's how it's always been done" model and the smarter dems have had it. >

Democrats have an insanely strong bench but all these old folks won’t get out of the way. >

Please GOD, may we have a candidate who is not over 70 years old. >

Bernie will beat trump if bernie runs >

Not me.  I was anybody but Biden in 2020.  But damn did he prove me wrong.  He’s done more than the last two presidents combined.  He’s been a stable spokesperson and brought together both parties to keep America’s lights on.  Has he made errors ? Sure.  But I am very happy with what he has done.  I just think now that we have wiggle room in the senate.  He needs to give the VP some time to shine. >

I have nothing specific against Biden himself. Maybe the way we handled Afganistan. But the dude is in his 80s. He’s just too damn old. >

I don't want Biden to run in 2024, but I'll gladly vote for him over any republican who runs. >

Democrats who feel this way aren't dissatisfied with Biden, they just want somebody younger. >

As a Progressive, you know where I stand but Dark Brandon was amusing to see. 
I am not dissatisfied with him as it feels pretty good not to have panic attacks in the middle of the night wondering what Orange Cheetolini said during the night. >

I love how right wingers say he’s senile, but in the next breath make him out to be some brilliant tactician and political mastermind. I’m not sure how that works. >

It’s important to recognize that Biden has a fluency disorder and the changes to his speech, are related to that. It’s simply discrimination. They know that the orange haired Cheetolini actually has signs of cognitive change, and had no problem letting that slide. It’s simply discrimination against a disability to slander someone you don’t like. >

I will always say this, as someone who had a grandfather with dementia, trump reminds me of my grandfather. Biden just reminds me of someone who is getting older. >

Biden just has a stutter that he's worked very hard to overcome. I've worked with and been friends with people with much more severe speech disorders. It's not any cognitive decline, just difficulty with speech. >

I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have to constantly correct your speech for years. Tbh, I’m glad we have a president who shows it’s ok to sometimes struggle with things. It makes him more endearing and relatable. I wasn’t necessarily talking about his speaking abilities when I said he was getting older, I meant more so some of the memory related things or the tripping. I’d never make fun of him for having an actual speech disorder or impediment. >

This isn't talked about often but Biden actually takes time to work with/meet and talk to children who have speech issues similar to his. >


But despite these accomplishments, only 47 percent of Democrats want him to seek a second term.

And do the other 53% support the same person or a bunch of different people, many of them not even having someone specific in mind? >

I want a progressive politician that is under the age of 60... that is all. >

A progressive in the general would lose moderate votes to a (not crazy) Republican candidate and would result in a Republican president.  If the next Republican president is as ambitious as Trump but actually smart it will be the last president we ever vote for.
I want a Progressive president.  But I'm willing to compromise and accept a moderate Democrat in order to prevent the end of our democracy. >

Bernie would 100% have won against Trump. >

A guy who lost two primaries by huge margins twice in a row was gonna run a campaign for the real thing and win? >

I think we have different definitions of huge margins >

In 2020, Biden got more than twice the number of votes that Bernie got.
In 2016 Hilary got about 40% more, winning 17 million to 13 million. >

You need to use Bernie Math to calculate the true margins >

I'd like to be clear, as I am someone who would rather have another candidate:
I don't want Biden to run again in 2024, but will I vote for him if he does?
Abso-fucking-lutely >

Not this headline, again >

Yea, sure.  A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.  I'd prefer Warren, some would prefer Bernie.  Others switched out of the GOP registration just because the GOP went crazy and would really rather have an old school chamber of commerce republican.
It's a big tent, Biden does well to get a plurality, and we'll all go and vote for him when he's the nominee. >


A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.

Need to think general election not primaries.
Biden has excellent record.  The ONLY negative that GOP media has made stick is the mental acuity issue, so take the test. >

It's kind of funny how Hunter is the only thing that the right has been pushing on Biden character assassination wise.
Like after how many decades of politics, the most they have is an extremely tenuous accusation of nepotism? >

After Trump, GOP accusations of nepotism falls flat on its face. >

Rules for thee, not for me. >

I do? Not really. I want him to be a boring, almost out of mind President who continues to get shit done. There's not a single potential candidate I trust more than Biden right now in this political moment. >

Trust more to be productive or trust more to get elected? >

Yes. >

This is one of those times when the media talks about a non-story so much for so long, they make it the story.
It's precisely how they made Trump president. They talked about him to the exclusion of every other candidate, and what do you know? Ignoring everyone else had the effect of making him president.  
And now they're doing it to make sure Biden doesn't run again. They're simply going to make it "common knowledge" that nobody wants Biden to run. And in this way, they will make it so. >

Polling before and after the holiday break suggests a majority of dems don’t want Biden to run
Independent of his accomplishments he would be 86 by the end of his 2nd term
The average life span in the US is 77 >

Mitch McConnell is 80. Where are the articles about him running for re-election? >

This is a huge issue with these articles. They also ignore the fact that while people would prefer to vote for someone younger, that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for Joe Biden because he's old. >

Biden is doing a phenomenal job. No complaints. >

Agreed. He has been the most legislatively successful president since Johnson and he did so with razor thin majorities. My only complaint against him is that the withdrawal from Afghanistan could have been better planned, but even then he still ended America’s longest war. >

Better planning would have required at least some coordination with the outgoing administration.  They were not forthcoming. >

Do we, though?
For a moment literally just stop and count up the wins. While the GOP literally can't not fuck up nominating their own speaker with a majority, Biden has major wins on a number of fronts. Despite a radically stacked court. >

No "we" don't.  This is "the media's" job.  They did it with Clinton.  The did it with Pelosi.  They did it win Sanders.  They did it with Harris.  It's what they believe is their job.  I read the Palmer Report to remind myself that it's not about journalism.  It's about clicks. >

This isn't about what we "want", it's about who can win. Biden has proven to be capable of beating Trump, should he somehow against all odds be the opposition. There are no viable, energizing candidates on the docket, and trying to switch to someone else just because of their age at this point will surely spell a loss for Democrats.
They're stuck with Trump, we're most likely stuck with Biden. But at least Biden is a winner, like him or not. >

Dems haven’t tested the theory of who could beat trump outside of HRC
Hard to imagine a Gretchen Whitmer, Mark Kelly, or Josh Shapiro wouldn’t be a better bet to snag moderates and IND voters
I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything >


I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything.

Trump could be a vegetable, hell he already has the mental capacity of one, and the entire GOP voting base would slurp him up like sweet orange nectar.
I'm all for alternatives, but I'm not willing to risk a second Trump presidency just because Biden is old. Find an alternative that could actually win, and I'll take a look. >

Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas
The pool of potential options to beat trump is deep
US voters shouldn’t be held hostage by and 82 year old because he’s better than the worst option >


Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas

I'm no science man, but I think it's a little premature to say "Mission Accomplished" on Trumpism. And as for the pool of potential options, I haven't seen a single one step up to challenge Trump yet in any meaningful sense. >

I don’t want to put the cart before the horse, but look at GA, trumpism lost on a split ticket vote
We’re at the point now where just being able to beat Trump shouldn’t be the only platform a candidate runs on
Dems should strategize for a bigger piece of the pie
Focus on winning back the Latino vote in TX and FL, then they really won’t have to worry about trumpism >

Before joining The Post, Byler was chief elections analyst and a staff writer at the Weekly Standard, >

It’s absolutely insane to me that people would want to throw away the incumbent advantage and the good will he has earned simply because “old”. 
If he’s capable of doing the job, there’s no reason to gamble on someone else when there are no clear candidates on the table. >


If he’s capable of doing the job

If.
Dude’s ancient. We don’t know what might happen between now and then, but he could just die of old age or suffer some kind of debilitating health issue. Hence why it’s better to go for someone younger. If Biden remains hale, I don’t see a problem with him running again, but that’s far from a guarantee. >

That's true. There's nothing in place in the constitution in case the president becomes incapacitated, and who knows if the Dems could withstand a national special election for the president. >

Actually the constitution has plenty to say about presidential incapacitation, but it remains highly problematic regardless of the failsafes. >

You're the reason why people use the /s qualifier >

I have long since learned not to underestimate the confident Dunning-Kruger stupidity of people on the internet. >

Does anyone with any sense actually believe that Biden's experience and acumen were not directly responsible for the legislative achievement of the last few years. I don't think that some younger - although more media presentable - will accomplish nearly as much. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >

Exactly >

someone that will enforce rule of law.
put a head of doj that will hold trump, bannon, flynn, stone, giuliani, thiel and other fascists criminals , putin russian money laudnerers, insurrectionists accountable and sent to prison... >

What if….and hear me out….it was someone that was in touch with generations that aren’t members of AARP? Maybe someone that actually gives a shit about the poor and working class? I dunno, too much to ask? >

Biden was the first democratic president I voted for… honestly as it goes so far.  I would vote for him again if he ran.  He doesn’t inspire awe for me, but I’ve not been unhappy with his progress either.  This alone is a good thing and worth a vote from me. >

End the fuxking federal prohibition on cannabis. How hard is it to just do this shit?!?! Stop taking money from for-profit prisons, alcohol and pharma and just do it.!.! >

I wan’t someone who will make it to 2028. Is that really too much to ask in a country of 360,000,000 people to pick from for a candidate? >

Anyone under 70 please >

Under 50 would be nice >

I don't think he could create the buzz again to beat DeSantis, they better hope Trump ruins the right's path and splits the vote. >

I'll say it, I want a younger president, but if it has to be Joe Biden, he'll get my vote again. He's done quite a bit, and any step in the progressive direction is better than allowing another authoritarian fascist win again. >

I'd vote twice for AOC. >

Honestly, he's done a way better job than I expected, and until he gives us reason to believe he won't continue to do that, we should just roll with him in 2024.  Age be damned.  The only thing about his age that changes things for me is that it makes the VP pick more important. 
 Maybe switch out VP picks for someone more progressive than Kamala in case he kicks the bucket while in office. >

Overall, Biden has exceeded my expectations. He's not perfect, no one is. But he's also going on 80. No disrespect to any older folks, but I want a presidential candidate under the age of 70. 
Biden seems pretty sharp overall but at his age, when declines do set in, they can be extremely rapid. >

If Biden steps down, sure. But the people who think primarying him is a good idea are morons. That's how you give Trump or Desantis the white house. >

I want somebody else, but doubt there will be anybody else who's as viable. >

As a foreigner following US politics, I gotta say, how is this possible? A country of 300 million with 50 separate legislative systems, and you guys can't find a single presidential candidate that is reasonably experienced, has good character and can talk to people, and not going to be pushing 90 at the end of his or her presidency? Something must be broken, somewhere... >

Who? >

I don't. >

Like in 2020, if Trump gets the nomination again (seems likely), then ANY DEMOCRAT will beat him...again...even Biden. >

Biden's a fine president. I just don't want him to die in office. That kind of thing is traumatic for the country. >

Nah, I’m more and more down for Joe. Before I was just fine. He’s been doing pretty good imo. >

If the GOP can have the last four years of Reagan dementia, we can have four more years of Old Joe. >

I want Joe Biden. >

I don't want someone else.  Biden is doing an awesome job >

I dont.. he has accomplished so much more than I thought he would. At the start I had my doubts. But now, Im %100 voting for him again if he runs. >

Yes I'd prefer someone younger and more progressive than Biden but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him when he's inevitably the nominee in 2024. >

No we don't. I hate this stupid narrative from the people that helped give us Trump. >

No we fucking don't. >

Right wing propaganda trying to split support from Biden as usual w his age as only crutch. 
Dude even got McConnell working w him and right doesn't know what to do. >

If someone better was 2nd in line, I think I would not mind if he ran again as much.  
Seeing an 80+ year old pretend to be in his 40’s and run the election gauntlet and possibly become too Ill to compete, or worse, die and leave Harris to lose the election to Trump is my nightmare. >

I do think the VP part of this situation is what is most uncomfortable for people. >

It should be.  If he makes it all of the way through re-election, it is incredibly possible we will have his vice president take over operations at some point either due to frailty or death.  
I mostly fear a full bore campaign trail.  He didn’t have that last time.  Kamila isn’t electable to a large amount of Democratic voters and Trump (or DeSantis) will get to ordain himself Emperor for life.  All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate. >


All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate.

i don't even think they have one. pete's a boomer's idea of a next generation candidate, kamala's obviously DOA, bernie's got next generation policy but too old. decades of this same leadership clinging onto power until the last second has crushed the party's ability to build a pool of qualified presidential candidates. >

Andy Beshear is 45 & Gretchen Whitmer is 51 >

Biden was handed a shit show and has guided us through it with a steady hand.  Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.  He deserves another term. >


Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.

yeah, holy shit, some people are thick. Pretty much every country suffered from inflation post-COVID. Supply chains were not back to normal, people started spending again, Russia invaded Ukraine causing oil and grain prices to soar which further made transporting all goods increase and the price was passed on further to consumers. Republicans were all attacking Biden over inflation while voting against Bills to help curb inflation. >

Not all of us want someone different. Advanced age is a positive thing in a town like D.C. as long as someone is not senile. Alot of people think Biden is senile, but if you watch a speech or a press conference in its entirety its easy to see he is not. His experience with the processes in D.C. enabled him to get a ton of positive things done in the 2 years he had both houses of congress behind him.  Good job Joe! >

Based on the rate in which the incumbent wins, only Republicans should want someone other than Joe Biden. >

I know right. Who the heck is pushing that narrative?
I want Biden and no one else for 2024, i can't currently see anyone else that can win against a De Santis >

They want someone as incredibly experienced and effective as Biden in  younger body.  Because unicorns >

Then they better put someone up that has a strong chance of beating DeSantis, and that is not Harris, and it is not Bernie. >

The first priority is to keep Republicans at bay, out of the hen house. If there is someone who is bolder, more progressive than Biden and electable, then that's who we need going forward. >

Love the guy but we need somebody younger and energetic, the challenges and danger are too great >

I want someone else, but I'll take anyone who will keep a fascist out of the white house. >

Someone under the age of 70 would be a great start. >

I'm pleasantly surprised at how he's been getting stuff done. Now we need to pack the courts with more liberal leaning judges. >

So does everybody else. So far he has been what we expected. A non trump, non crazy, stop gap bridge to something better. Hopefully he would get a couple of the things he campaigned on in place. 
As a member of the working class I want someone in office that will actually represent our interests. Ive yet to see that in my lifetime. But we have been close the last two elections.
With that said ill take a centrist democrat over any current republicans in office. Ill vote my choice in primaries and fall in line in the general. Its not ideal but it works, at least better than the alternative, and the repubs have showed us that election after election after election. >

Give me Newsom if Biden doesn't want to run because I think he can actually do the job. Do not under any circumstance run Harris. That's almost a guaranteed loss. >

Newsom would be the natural choice, executive running the sixth largest economy in the world and very diverse state that is only 42% White. >

Well, somebody wants "democrats" to want someone else, because that would certainly help Republicans, wouldn't it? >

Newsom said he would not run against Biden.  Now if Biden decides not to run, I would like to see Newsom run >

He’s so fucking old.  I can’t look at his decrepit ass anymore.  Please someone younger than 60.  Please.  We are begging you.  We don’t like Biden, never did, but we had to vote for him.  That’s the only reason.  There was no other choice. >

I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primarily due to his age and due to his stance on gun rights. (Gun rights are a big issue for me even though I lean left on most other things)
Having said that, Biden has really impressed me, and I’ll definitely be voting for him in 2024 if he runs again. Regardless of his age, he’s shown that he can handle the job, he’s stood up to the Russians, he’s gotten a lot of bills through Congress, and he’s shown no real political will to ban assault weapons, which was the main reason I was skeptical of him to begin with. As long as he continues down this path he’s got my vote. >

I want Mark Kelly. >

I don’t love Biden, but dark Brandon is getting shit done. If he has a couple more senators and 2 more justices we could actually fix some things >

Biden reminds me of a cute old grandpa tbh that's it he seems like a really cool person. >

He’s done a much better job than I expected, but Joe is old. We need some younger, more progressive leaders for our future. >

Gaining ground? Towards what, the ice cream truck? >

I don’t mind if he runs again, I’d just rather have a candidate who I don’t think will die in office. Dark Brandon is too old for this shit, if I make it to 80 I’m sure as hell not working minimum 60 hour weeks managing the most powerful country in the world. That’s a lot for the throat goat to handle >

We do? Who do we want? >

I'd actually prefer Biden over other Democrats in 2024. Not because I align with him politically, but because I think we need the incumbency advantage and a continuously in power president for the Republican attempts to steal the election in 2024 which are definitely coming. If the election's results are heavily disputed, as I bet they will be, we should have the default president be a Democrat.
If we nominate a Democrat who isn't Biden, then when the chaos comes, the presidency is a big question mark after January 20th, and the question of 'who is the president' receives a different answer depending on who you're asking. Whereas, if we keep Biden, then at least Biden would be president during that tumultuous period, and the question 'who is president right now' is at least still Biden.
I'm a little cynical about the future of the US, in case you can't tell. >

I like Biden more than most of Reddit. Main reason is that he is focused on country -- and that's the only option for a complex country like the US if it has to survive. Also because he is centrist, which is a dirty word on this website.
However, I don't want him to run in 2024 because executing the President's job between the ages of 82-86 is an unfair expectation of any human. As a guy who isn't too hung up about himself, I suspect Biden doesn't want to either, but he is very dependent on a strong contender emerging to replace him.
While the Republicans remind us daily of the clowns they are, the Democratic idiocy should also not be forgotten. The party is quite fragmented and all over the place. >

To be fair, we wanted someone different in 2020 as well. >

I like Biden but the Dems desperately need to pass the baton to the next generation. 
I'd love to see Andy Beshear, Jarad Polis or Ned Lamont get tapped. Laura Kelly may be an option too. >

Unpopular opinion: the next generation needs to earn that baton rather than it just be handed to them. >

I apologize for playing the role of Captain Obvious, but that baton is going to have to be picked up eventually. No one lives forever. >

Sounds like they should be getting to work, then. 
As evil as he is, DeSantis has been appealing to the Republican base around the country for awhile now. There are no younger candidates on the left doing that effectively. >

It's easy to appeal to idiots when all you have to do is lie to them and spout off the bigotry they like to hear.  The problem for democrats is that the depth chart is weak because the old fucks won't go away. >

Simple solution: Win primaries.
The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts. >


The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts.

Technically speaking, that's a problem across the board, and not necessarily with the 18-35 demographic. 
Simply put, a lot of people just don't show up to the polls, regardless of the reason, whether it be disillusionment, apathy, work conflicts, lack of access, etc. >

Oh for sure. Nobody is off the hook. We haven’t had a midterm election with over 50% turnout in literally over a century, and that obviously doesn’t even count primaries.
The younger generation though has a pretty uniquely awful track record though. I mean when articles are being written patting them on the back for the “second highest turnout in history”, and only 27% showed up last year, it’s a problem. When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections. >


When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections.

Absolutely agreed. But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand. You're right that the choices about how we're governed are made by people who bother to show up and vote. The other side of that coin is old people accepting responsibility for the fucked up situations created by voting for shitty people for decades. Let's hear it, old folks, step up and take the blame you deserve.
And in taking that blame, acknowledge that you might not have all the right answers about how to vote now, and listen to young people who at least 1) have to live in the world they're voting on, and 2) don't have a long track record of choosing morons for office.
Sorry for the edits. >


But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand.

Gen X's first presidential elections were 84 and 88. Check how they voted then. Problem doesn't go away with the Me generation. >

Can we please just be as blindly loyal as Republicans until Trump dies? >

We won't be. Like every other opportunity, we'll piss it away. (I say this as a lifelong Dem who is so tired of taking the high road. Dark Brandon makes me happy. Let's keep doing it.) >

Yeah. I mostly like Joe Biden especially as president but I don't want to go out here worshipping him like some do Trump. Decking my room with Biden merch seems so unnecessary lol. >

The worship is what's frightening to me. Proudly voted for Obama and Joe Biden because I thought they were the best choice. I was voting for POTUS, not joining a cut. No need for clothing, signs, or  bumper stickers. >

No, we don’t. >

We do not. I wasn’t polled. Dark Brandon until he says no more. >

He needs to run again. Incumbents have a massive head start. If he would have picked a stronger VP, then I’d be ok with him retiring but we can’t afford to risk one of these nutty republicans winning. >

Bullshit. >

No we don’t >

I was one of the people that voted for Biden just because he wasn't Trump. I didn't want him at all, but it beat the alternative.
Now after 2 years of watching him go, I would happily vote for him again. No one is more surprised than I am by this. >

Biden is doing well, And he should finish out his agenda. We can talk about who is next after his 8 years. Democrats and the Americans people by extension, are very happy with him. >

Is this ageism? Yes the democrat leadership is old but very knowledgeable and successful driving polices thru in spite of 100% Republican opposition. This is no small feat. >

I don't see anyone else running against DeSantis and winning. If the economy improves and Russia is defeated then I think the current admin should stay. >

Biden has done a great job. Now fucking retire and let a new generation take the wheel. >

If only there were a popular grownup to take the wheel. >

Based on two years of President Biden, I would be happy with another four years of President Biden. >

No I don't. Stop trying to stir up shit for clicks. >

I'd vote for him in 2024 speak for yourself Jeff Bezos >

i'm a dem and i'm fine with joe. >

I like Biden cuz he gets stuff done and doesn’t complain or blame others. 
He treats others with respect even if they don’t see eye to eye. 
He thinks before he speaks. 
These are REAL leadership qualities. >

All I want for 2024 is justice for January 6th. And I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about every republican member of Congress who supported him, refused to hold him accountable for a fucking coup attempt, or endorsed his efforts after the fact, which is basically all but a few. 
And Biden definitely isn't the guy to make this happen. Not sure if anyone has what it takes to do the right thing, in which case it doesn't really matter who the nominee is. This country is fucked. >

ALL you wanna see is people you don’t like punished for their wrongdoing? What about free healthcare, fixing the broken legal system, workers rights, legal weed, housing the homeless, education, trans rights, reproductive rights etc? 
Don’t let the media’s coverage of the insurrection distract you from the real problems that actually need fixing and impact everyone’s day to day life. >

Exactly. January 6th was shitty but it’s nothing compared to the ongoing, decades long atrocities and the deep corruption in our healthcare, immigration, education, and economic systems. 
Making January 6th your top priority is going to play out like the Mueller investigation: it won’t end in justice. The problem is much deeper than one incident. >

Jan 6th is like Pearl Harbor, the titanic, the holocaust and 9/11 all rolled into one. It’s that big of a deal and we must never forget or focus on anything else until we are all satisfied with justice being served. >

I think dems might screw themselves over if they end up wanting to boot biden even if he keeps doing good things and getting positive press. >

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like Democrats wanted someone else for 2020 right up to the point that he trounced everyone in the primaries. I don't know any Biden Democrats (me and everyone else in my little circle wanted Warren) but apparently they are out there and they really want an establishment, 80's style politician in the White House. >

We need someone younger and more progressive. >

He's a great guy, but he's too old.  The party needs new blood.
But if he's the nominee versus whatever f*ing monster the GOP puts forward, then he sure as hell will get my vote. >

Meh, this article is kind of pointless, and I’m not sure their numbers back up their conclusion >

No one is completely happy with their politicians except for the cult. We're always going to want a better candidate but all these articles are just bullshit stirring of the pot trying to divide the left.
Biden is doing a whole lot better than I expected. If he runs again the party won't support a challenger. So it's completely moot. If he decides to step aside he'll have to do in the next couple of months so the next options have the time to mount a successful campaign. Either way the ball is in his court.
TL;DR no one runs against an incumbent. Media is trying to stir and cause division on the left. >

We wanted someone else in 2020 and 2016 too. >

Not sure about you, but I got exactly who I wanted in 2020.
Which was basically anyone but Trump. >

I don't disagree with this statement.   My point was simply that the DNC seems to choose the worst most inept candidates for us to vote for. >

Well, if you remember, Biden was in 8th place after Super Tuesday and the DNC made literally everyone still in at the time pull out of the race to dogpile on him out of fear of Sanders commanding lead.
At the end of the day, the establishment will protect itself and that's not going to change. >

I do remember.   That's why I'm dumbfounded by all these downvotes.   The DNC literally did everything in their power to push the more popular candidates out in favor of Biden.
Same with 2016 when they basically gave the nomination to Hillary before the first primary even started.    Even after Bernie kept winning state after state, the narrative was all about the Super Delegates giving Hillary the nomination.
People have a very short memory. >

I think it's people having a short memory combined with them not wanting to remember and also being unwilling to validate the desired policies of younger voters who they constantly shit on, yet demand support from. >

We do?? Why? Biden is getting shit done. >

Nah, Joe's fine. >

Running out of time to pitch someone better. 
Harris is a trainwreck, Buttigieg is a snake (read up on his time with McKinsey), and Sanders (the one good option) isn't getting any younger. >

Katie Porter is the answer, I'd like to see her run regardless. At the very least as a counterpoint to the clown show that will be the GOP primary to drag the conversation back to reality as Biden will remain above the fray. >

She's excellent, but wasn't her last election very close? >

She lives in a very Republican area. >

It’s honestly a little annoying that this is even controversial. Democracy is dying, we need someone younger that excites people. Especially since Desantis will likely run as the fresh, young(er) face of the Republican Party. Nobody gets passionate about a career politician in his 80’s. >

I don’t want anyone else at this point. All this clickbait media talk of “someone else” is fucking delusional less than 2 years from the election. >

I want someone younger. Someone that knows what the cost of housing is today. Someone that isn't old enough to collect Social Security. Not Mayor Pete. >

Biden can run and win BUT he has to answer the GOP/GOP Media campaign that he has mental impairment.  It's really the only thing the GOP media has been able to use against Biden.
So Biden takes an MoCA test and publishes it.
It's a fair ask on any canddiate from 70's on. >

You're giving Fox News far, far too much credit.
It's not the case that a younger Biden or a Clinton that never used email or an Obama who released a longform birth certificate would be fine in their books.
Whoever the 2024 nominee is, the Trump crowd will 100% argue some grounds on which they should be disqualified. Ditto 2028.
They aren't operating in good faith. 
You can want Biden to submit to whatever, proceed. But don't argue that he should do it because then Fox News won't have anything to use against him. They will. They always will. And when you say stuff like that you're not only wrong, you're legitimizing Trump world by operating as if they're good faith actors.
They aren't. The starting point is Democrats are disqualified. They backfill the rest later and will always do so, no matter what you do. >

If Biden was 10 or 5 years younger his poll numbers would be 5 or 6 pts higher then they are now. The only serious thing dragging him down with democrats is his age.
But lets be serious. There are no other democratic names that have his standing and ability to rally the democratic party at the moment who have spoken about wanting a real race in 2023. There simply isn't the appetite for "anyone but biden" conversations. Bernie is older, and not palatable to centrists and conservative dems, and no one else has the ground game to even begin the fight. Harris is not popular outside California and has been almost  non-entity in the Biden Administration, beyond that she doesn't have appeal to younger voters and progressives.
So we got Biden. If he runs he'll probably face Trump again, and the win will probably be even larger then last time, as Trump is not as popular as he was pre-Jan 6th. Desantis could beat Trump, but such a win would fracture the Republicans as Trump has the real crazies who will never accept someone not handpicked by Trump. And Trump is unlikely to accept anyone winning who isn't him and doesn't literally kiss his ring.
Bottom Line. Dems are stuck with Biden, because no one else has the party and the money and the ground game. >

And this is how dems let donnie win again. FFS >

Biden set voting records.  Why try to fix what is not broken? >

Not-Trump set voting records. >

It’s not healthy for democracy when you have (in 2020) a 74yo President and 78yo candidate for President.  An 80yo speaker. A 70yo Senate Majority Leader. A 78yo senate minority leader. 
Come on - where is the talent being transitioned into leadership while they are at their working peak?
If Biden (82) and Trump (78) face off in 2024 it will just be sad.
Kudos to Pelosi for handing over so smoothly.  I hope both the Dems and GOP do the same for President in 2024. >

please for god sake. and not hillary clinton. please. just a rational, sane human being >

Biden, Hilary, or Kamala = a GOP win if they don’t have DT split the party.
Biden will be blamed for inflation, yes, smart people know that it is across the globe. But Smart people do not make make up the majority of the voters. 
Hilary is tainted for life. 
Kamala is just not a person a majority can get behind. Her VP stent did not improve her personality or likability. 
I am glad Dems are seeing it because DeSantis will eat them up. >

Some Democrats want change. Many of us like Biden. >

The Democratic Party is really a loose coalition of many different factions.
The Republicans tried to portray their house speaker debacle by saying that was a sign of healthy democracy, to question the status quo. Lol.
Then they will turn right around and say that progressives who like the Bernie Sanders or AOC types hate Biden and will defect from him!!!111
Well I'm one of those, and I might not hate the guy but he certainly not in my top three candidates of choice.
But if he runs as the incumbent in 2024 and there is no primary, then of course I'm going to support him. The Republican Party of fascism is in its death throws and I'm all too eager to twist the knife.
2028 could roll around with the GOP having been completely imploded Allah the Whig party pre-civil war.
That primary will be fun to engage in. >

I would vote for him again. He has done a good job.
He is really old. I would like someone else. >

Never got help with education or affording childcare. Politicians made it clear, the child rearing generations don’t matter. Only the Medicare generation. >

If it's Trump I want Biden to run. That's as close to a sure thing at this point that Biden would defeat Trump.
If it's DeSantis I think Dems gotta go with younger blood. >

Median voter age is 39-45. He’s like double that. We just want someone that’s even in the ballpark of the average. >

This democrat doesn’t. If he runs and there’s a primary, it’s a 95% chance that I’m voting for him unless there’s a health scare. >

I just don't want any geriatric fucks running no offense Biden / Trump / Sanders. >

Democrats wanted someone else last time, too.
What difference did that make? >

As a person, he's a good and decent man. As a 2020 candidate he was the right person to run because he was probably the only one who could have beaten Trump - a white, male, establishment moderate that less-hardline conservatives who were done with Trump could vote for without feeling guilty or like they were betraying all their values. As a president, he's been fine on some things, disappointing on others, great on very few, and overall hasn't been anywhere near progressive enough for my taste.
He has, fortunately, assisted in my sleep at night and for the last two years at least I've gotten to wake up every morning without my first panicked thought being "oh God what did he tweet."
He's too old. He shouldn't seek a second term and someone much younger needs to run. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries should step up to the plate. >

Democrats, meaning registered Democrats, may want someone else and someone younger. I can understand that, but to be honest, I like Biden and wish we could count on him living forever. But seeing how that plan worked out for Ginsberg, maybe it is time to move on.
Another relevant question is whether the Democrats have anyone else to offer that a majority of Americans will vote for?
I personally don't know the answer to this but one thing I have learned over the last decade or so is that the political polling  industry can be practically useless at times. 
Party insiders seem to want to be able to run Biden against a bruised up Donald Trump, always indicted but never quite convicted. Running against MAGA election deniers worked out pretty well for the Democrats in 2022. Can we still run against MAGA election deniers without Trump actually running? Is anyone else going to beat Trump in 2024? >

We need a younger generation & while he is proving to b a lot more of a democrat than Obama or Clinton it’s not gonna b enough in the most important ways especially into 2024 when the GOP won’t leave office if they win imo >

Promoting someone else for 2024 is a proactive move. The Dem strategy has relied too heavily on the "that's how it's always been done" model and the smarter dems have had it. >

Democrats have an insanely strong bench but all these old folks won’t get out of the way. >

Please GOD, may we have a candidate who is not over 70 years old. >

Bernie will beat trump if bernie runs >

Not me.  I was anybody but Biden in 2020.  But damn did he prove me wrong.  He’s done more than the last two presidents combined.  He’s been a stable spokesperson and brought together both parties to keep America’s lights on.  Has he made errors ? Sure.  But I am very happy with what he has done.  I just think now that we have wiggle room in the senate.  He needs to give the VP some time to shine. >

I have nothing specific against Biden himself. Maybe the way we handled Afganistan. But the dude is in his 80s. He’s just too damn old. >

I don't want Biden to run in 2024, but I'll gladly vote for him over any republican who runs. >

Democrats who feel this way aren't dissatisfied with Biden, they just want somebody younger. >

As a Progressive, you know where I stand but Dark Brandon was amusing to see. 
I am not dissatisfied with him as it feels pretty good not to have panic attacks in the middle of the night wondering what Orange Cheetolini said during the night. >

I love how right wingers say he’s senile, but in the next breath make him out to be some brilliant tactician and political mastermind. I’m not sure how that works. >

It’s important to recognize that Biden has a fluency disorder and the changes to his speech, are related to that. It’s simply discrimination. They know that the orange haired Cheetolini actually has signs of cognitive change, and had no problem letting that slide. It’s simply discrimination against a disability to slander someone you don’t like. >

I will always say this, as someone who had a grandfather with dementia, trump reminds me of my grandfather. Biden just reminds me of someone who is getting older. >

Biden just has a stutter that he's worked very hard to overcome. I've worked with and been friends with people with much more severe speech disorders. It's not any cognitive decline, just difficulty with speech. >

I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have to constantly correct your speech for years. Tbh, I’m glad we have a president who shows it’s ok to sometimes struggle with things. It makes him more endearing and relatable. I wasn’t necessarily talking about his speaking abilities when I said he was getting older, I meant more so some of the memory related things or the tripping. I’d never make fun of him for having an actual speech disorder or impediment. >

This isn't talked about often but Biden actually takes time to work with/meet and talk to children who have speech issues similar to his. >


But despite these accomplishments, only 47 percent of Democrats want him to seek a second term.

And do the other 53% support the same person or a bunch of different people, many of them not even having someone specific in mind? >

I want a progressive politician that is under the age of 60... that is all. >

A progressive in the general would lose moderate votes to a (not crazy) Republican candidate and would result in a Republican president.  If the next Republican president is as ambitious as Trump but actually smart it will be the last president we ever vote for.
I want a Progressive president.  But I'm willing to compromise and accept a moderate Democrat in order to prevent the end of our democracy. >

Bernie would 100% have won against Trump. >

A guy who lost two primaries by huge margins twice in a row was gonna run a campaign for the real thing and win? >

I think we have different definitions of huge margins >

In 2020, Biden got more than twice the number of votes that Bernie got.
In 2016 Hilary got about 40% more, winning 17 million to 13 million. >

You need to use Bernie Math to calculate the true margins >

I'd like to be clear, as I am someone who would rather have another candidate:
I don't want Biden to run again in 2024, but will I vote for him if he does?
Abso-fucking-lutely >

Not this headline, again >

Yea, sure.  A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.  I'd prefer Warren, some would prefer Bernie.  Others switched out of the GOP registration just because the GOP went crazy and would really rather have an old school chamber of commerce republican.
It's a big tent, Biden does well to get a plurality, and we'll all go and vote for him when he's the nominee. >


A bare majority of Democrats would prefer someone else.

Need to think general election not primaries.
Biden has excellent record.  The ONLY negative that GOP media has made stick is the mental acuity issue, so take the test. >

It's kind of funny how Hunter is the only thing that the right has been pushing on Biden character assassination wise.
Like after how many decades of politics, the most they have is an extremely tenuous accusation of nepotism? >

After Trump, GOP accusations of nepotism falls flat on its face. >

Rules for thee, not for me. >

I do? Not really. I want him to be a boring, almost out of mind President who continues to get shit done. There's not a single potential candidate I trust more than Biden right now in this political moment. >

Trust more to be productive or trust more to get elected? >

Yes. >

This is one of those times when the media talks about a non-story so much for so long, they make it the story.
It's precisely how they made Trump president. They talked about him to the exclusion of every other candidate, and what do you know? Ignoring everyone else had the effect of making him president.  
And now they're doing it to make sure Biden doesn't run again. They're simply going to make it "common knowledge" that nobody wants Biden to run. And in this way, they will make it so. >

Polling before and after the holiday break suggests a majority of dems don’t want Biden to run
Independent of his accomplishments he would be 86 by the end of his 2nd term
The average life span in the US is 77 >

Mitch McConnell is 80. Where are the articles about him running for re-election? >

This is a huge issue with these articles. They also ignore the fact that while people would prefer to vote for someone younger, that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for Joe Biden because he's old. >

Biden is doing a phenomenal job. No complaints. >

Agreed. He has been the most legislatively successful president since Johnson and he did so with razor thin majorities. My only complaint against him is that the withdrawal from Afghanistan could have been better planned, but even then he still ended America’s longest war. >

Better planning would have required at least some coordination with the outgoing administration.  They were not forthcoming. >

Do we, though?
For a moment literally just stop and count up the wins. While the GOP literally can't not fuck up nominating their own speaker with a majority, Biden has major wins on a number of fronts. Despite a radically stacked court. >

No "we" don't.  This is "the media's" job.  They did it with Clinton.  The did it with Pelosi.  They did it win Sanders.  They did it with Harris.  It's what they believe is their job.  I read the Palmer Report to remind myself that it's not about journalism.  It's about clicks. >

This isn't about what we "want", it's about who can win. Biden has proven to be capable of beating Trump, should he somehow against all odds be the opposition. There are no viable, energizing candidates on the docket, and trying to switch to someone else just because of their age at this point will surely spell a loss for Democrats.
They're stuck with Trump, we're most likely stuck with Biden. But at least Biden is a winner, like him or not. >

Dems haven’t tested the theory of who could beat trump outside of HRC
Hard to imagine a Gretchen Whitmer, Mark Kelly, or Josh Shapiro wouldn’t be a better bet to snag moderates and IND voters
I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything >


I appreciate what Biden and his team have done, but it’s unrealistic to assume a man governing from the ages of 83-86 will be effective at anything.

Trump could be a vegetable, hell he already has the mental capacity of one, and the entire GOP voting base would slurp him up like sweet orange nectar.
I'm all for alternatives, but I'm not willing to risk a second Trump presidency just because Biden is old. Find an alternative that could actually win, and I'll take a look. >

Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas
The pool of potential options to beat trump is deep
US voters shouldn’t be held hostage by and 82 year old because he’s better than the worst option >


Trumpism has been actively defeated everywhere except for Florida and Texas

I'm no science man, but I think it's a little premature to say "Mission Accomplished" on Trumpism. And as for the pool of potential options, I haven't seen a single one step up to challenge Trump yet in any meaningful sense. >

I don’t want to put the cart before the horse, but look at GA, trumpism lost on a split ticket vote
We’re at the point now where just being able to beat Trump shouldn’t be the only platform a candidate runs on
Dems should strategize for a bigger piece of the pie
Focus on winning back the Latino vote in TX and FL, then they really won’t have to worry about trumpism >

Before joining The Post, Byler was chief elections analyst and a staff writer at the Weekly Standard, >

It’s absolutely insane to me that people would want to throw away the incumbent advantage and the good will he has earned simply because “old”. 
If he’s capable of doing the job, there’s no reason to gamble on someone else when there are no clear candidates on the table. >


If he’s capable of doing the job

If.
Dude’s ancient. We don’t know what might happen between now and then, but he could just die of old age or suffer some kind of debilitating health issue. Hence why it’s better to go for someone younger. If Biden remains hale, I don’t see a problem with him running again, but that’s far from a guarantee. >

That's true. There's nothing in place in the constitution in case the president becomes incapacitated, and who knows if the Dems could withstand a national special election for the president. >

Actually the constitution has plenty to say about presidential incapacitation, but it remains highly problematic regardless of the failsafes. >

You're the reason why people use the /s qualifier >

I have long since learned not to underestimate the confident Dunning-Kruger stupidity of people on the internet. >

Does anyone with any sense actually believe that Biden's experience and acumen were not directly responsible for the legislative achievement of the last few years. I don't think that some younger - although more media presentable - will accomplish nearly as much. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >

Exactly >

someone that will enforce rule of law.
put a head of doj that will hold trump, bannon, flynn, stone, giuliani, thiel and other fascists criminals , putin russian money laudnerers, insurrectionists accountable and sent to prison... >

What if….and hear me out….it was someone that was in touch with generations that aren’t members of AARP? Maybe someone that actually gives a shit about the poor and working class? I dunno, too much to ask? >

Biden was the first democratic president I voted for… honestly as it goes so far.  I would vote for him again if he ran.  He doesn’t inspire awe for me, but I’ve not been unhappy with his progress either.  This alone is a good thing and worth a vote from me. >

End the fuxking federal prohibition on cannabis. How hard is it to just do this shit?!?! Stop taking money from for-profit prisons, alcohol and pharma and just do it.!.! >

I wan’t someone who will make it to 2028. Is that really too much to ask in a country of 360,000,000 people to pick from for a candidate? >

Anyone under 70 please >

Under 50 would be nice >

I don't think he could create the buzz again to beat DeSantis, they better hope Trump ruins the right's path and splits the vote. >

I'll say it, I want a younger president, but if it has to be Joe Biden, he'll get my vote again. He's done quite a bit, and any step in the progressive direction is better than allowing another authoritarian fascist win again. >

I'd vote twice for AOC. >

Honestly, he's done a way better job than I expected, and until he gives us reason to believe he won't continue to do that, we should just roll with him in 2024.  Age be damned.  The only thing about his age that changes things for me is that it makes the VP pick more important. 
 Maybe switch out VP picks for someone more progressive than Kamala in case he kicks the bucket while in office. >

Overall, Biden has exceeded my expectations. He's not perfect, no one is. But he's also going on 80. No disrespect to any older folks, but I want a presidential candidate under the age of 70. 
Biden seems pretty sharp overall but at his age, when declines do set in, they can be extremely rapid. >

If Biden steps down, sure. But the people who think primarying him is a good idea are morons. That's how you give Trump or Desantis the white house. >

I want somebody else, but doubt there will be anybody else who's as viable. >

As a foreigner following US politics, I gotta say, how is this possible? A country of 300 million with 50 separate legislative systems, and you guys can't find a single presidential candidate that is reasonably experienced, has good character and can talk to people, and not going to be pushing 90 at the end of his or her presidency? Something must be broken, somewhere... >

Who? >

I don't. >

Like in 2020, if Trump gets the nomination again (seems likely), then ANY DEMOCRAT will beat him...again...even Biden. >

Biden's a fine president. I just don't want him to die in office. That kind of thing is traumatic for the country. >

Nah, I’m more and more down for Joe. Before I was just fine. He’s been doing pretty good imo. >

If the GOP can have the last four years of Reagan dementia, we can have four more years of Old Joe. >

I want Joe Biden. >

I don't want someone else.  Biden is doing an awesome job >

I dont.. he has accomplished so much more than I thought he would. At the start I had my doubts. But now, Im %100 voting for him again if he runs. >

Yes I'd prefer someone younger and more progressive than Biden but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him when he's inevitably the nominee in 2024. >

No we don't. I hate this stupid narrative from the people that helped give us Trump. >

No we fucking don't. >

Right wing propaganda trying to split support from Biden as usual w his age as only crutch. 
Dude even got McConnell working w him and right doesn't know what to do. >

If someone better was 2nd in line, I think I would not mind if he ran again as much.  
Seeing an 80+ year old pretend to be in his 40’s and run the election gauntlet and possibly become too Ill to compete, or worse, die and leave Harris to lose the election to Trump is my nightmare. >

I do think the VP part of this situation is what is most uncomfortable for people. >

It should be.  If he makes it all of the way through re-election, it is incredibly possible we will have his vice president take over operations at some point either due to frailty or death.  
I mostly fear a full bore campaign trail.  He didn’t have that last time.  Kamila isn’t electable to a large amount of Democratic voters and Trump (or DeSantis) will get to ordain himself Emperor for life.  All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate. >


All of this because Dem’s are too scared to field a next generation candidate.

i don't even think they have one. pete's a boomer's idea of a next generation candidate, kamala's obviously DOA, bernie's got next generation policy but too old. decades of this same leadership clinging onto power until the last second has crushed the party's ability to build a pool of qualified presidential candidates. >

Andy Beshear is 45 & Gretchen Whitmer is 51 >

Biden was handed a shit show and has guided us through it with a steady hand.  Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.  He deserves another term. >


Half the country blames him for inflation for example because they are too ignorant to realize it’s a global problem.

yeah, holy shit, some people are thick. Pretty much every country suffered from inflation post-COVID. Supply chains were not back to normal, people started spending again, Russia invaded Ukraine causing oil and grain prices to soar which further made transporting all goods increase and the price was passed on further to consumers. Republicans were all attacking Biden over inflation while voting against Bills to help curb inflation. >

Not all of us want someone different. Advanced age is a positive thing in a town like D.C. as long as someone is not senile. Alot of people think Biden is senile, but if you watch a speech or a press conference in its entirety its easy to see he is not. His experience with the processes in D.C. enabled him to get a ton of positive things done in the 2 years he had both houses of congress behind him.  Good job Joe! >

Based on the rate in which the incumbent wins, only Republicans should want someone other than Joe Biden. >

I know right. Who the heck is pushing that narrative?
I want Biden and no one else for 2024, i can't currently see anyone else that can win against a De Santis >

They want someone as incredibly experienced and effective as Biden in  younger body.  Because unicorns >

Then they better put someone up that has a strong chance of beating DeSantis, and that is not Harris, and it is not Bernie. >

The first priority is to keep Republicans at bay, out of the hen house. If there is someone who is bolder, more progressive than Biden and electable, then that's who we need going forward. >

Love the guy but we need somebody younger and energetic, the challenges and danger are too great >

I want someone else, but I'll take anyone who will keep a fascist out of the white house. >

Someone under the age of 70 would be a great start. >

I'm pleasantly surprised at how he's been getting stuff done. Now we need to pack the courts with more liberal leaning judges. >

So does everybody else. So far he has been what we expected. A non trump, non crazy, stop gap bridge to something better. Hopefully he would get a couple of the things he campaigned on in place. 
As a member of the working class I want someone in office that will actually represent our interests. Ive yet to see that in my lifetime. But we have been close the last two elections.
With that said ill take a centrist democrat over any current republicans in office. Ill vote my choice in primaries and fall in line in the general. Its not ideal but it works, at least better than the alternative, and the repubs have showed us that election after election after election. >

Give me Newsom if Biden doesn't want to run because I think he can actually do the job. Do not under any circumstance run Harris. That's almost a guaranteed loss. >

Newsom would be the natural choice, executive running the sixth largest economy in the world and very diverse state that is only 42% White. >

Well, somebody wants "democrats" to want someone else, because that would certainly help Republicans, wouldn't it? >

Newsom said he would not run against Biden.  Now if Biden decides not to run, I would like to see Newsom run >

He’s so fucking old.  I can’t look at his decrepit ass anymore.  Please someone younger than 60.  Please.  We are begging you.  We don’t like Biden, never did, but we had to vote for him.  That’s the only reason.  There was no other choice. >

I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primarily due to his age and due to his stance on gun rights. (Gun rights are a big issue for me even though I lean left on most other things)
Having said that, Biden has really impressed me, and I’ll definitely be voting for him in 2024 if he runs again. Regardless of his age, he’s shown that he can handle the job, he’s stood up to the Russians, he’s gotten a lot of bills through Congress, and he’s shown no real political will to ban assault weapons, which was the main reason I was skeptical of him to begin with. As long as he continues down this path he’s got my vote. >

I want Mark Kelly. >

I don’t love Biden, but dark Brandon is getting shit done. If he has a couple more senators and 2 more justices we could actually fix some things >

Biden reminds me of a cute old grandpa tbh that's it he seems like a really cool person. >

He’s done a much better job than I expected, but Joe is old. We need some younger, more progressive leaders for our future. >

Gaining ground? Towards what, the ice cream truck? >

I don’t mind if he runs again, I’d just rather have a candidate who I don’t think will die in office. Dark Brandon is too old for this shit, if I make it to 80 I’m sure as hell not working minimum 60 hour weeks managing the most powerful country in the world. That’s a lot for the throat goat to handle >

We do? Who do we want? >

I'd actually prefer Biden over other Democrats in 2024. Not because I align with him politically, but because I think we need the incumbency advantage and a continuously in power president for the Republican attempts to steal the election in 2024 which are definitely coming. If the election's results are heavily disputed, as I bet they will be, we should have the default president be a Democrat.
If we nominate a Democrat who isn't Biden, then when the chaos comes, the presidency is a big question mark after January 20th, and the question of 'who is the president' receives a different answer depending on who you're asking. Whereas, if we keep Biden, then at least Biden would be president during that tumultuous period, and the question 'who is president right now' is at least still Biden.
I'm a little cynical about the future of the US, in case you can't tell. >

I like Biden more than most of Reddit. Main reason is that he is focused on country -- and that's the only option for a complex country like the US if it has to survive. Also because he is centrist, which is a dirty word on this website.
However, I don't want him to run in 2024 because executing the President's job between the ages of 82-86 is an unfair expectation of any human. As a guy who isn't too hung up about himself, I suspect Biden doesn't want to either, but he is very dependent on a strong contender emerging to replace him.
While the Republicans remind us daily of the clowns they are, the Democratic idiocy should also not be forgotten. The party is quite fragmented and all over the place. >

To be fair, we wanted someone different in 2020 as well. >

I like Biden but the Dems desperately need to pass the baton to the next generation. 
I'd love to see Andy Beshear, Jarad Polis or Ned Lamont get tapped. Laura Kelly may be an option too. >

Unpopular opinion: the next generation needs to earn that baton rather than it just be handed to them. >

I apologize for playing the role of Captain Obvious, but that baton is going to have to be picked up eventually. No one lives forever. >

Sounds like they should be getting to work, then. 
As evil as he is, DeSantis has been appealing to the Republican base around the country for awhile now. There are no younger candidates on the left doing that effectively. >

It's easy to appeal to idiots when all you have to do is lie to them and spout off the bigotry they like to hear.  The problem for democrats is that the depth chart is weak because the old fucks won't go away. >

Simple solution: Win primaries.
The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts. >


The unfortunate problem is that young people have a hard time showing up when it counts.

Technically speaking, that's a problem across the board, and not necessarily with the 18-35 demographic. 
Simply put, a lot of people just don't show up to the polls, regardless of the reason, whether it be disillusionment, apathy, work conflicts, lack of access, etc. >

Oh for sure. Nobody is off the hook. We haven’t had a midterm election with over 50% turnout in literally over a century, and that obviously doesn’t even count primaries.
The younger generation though has a pretty uniquely awful track record though. I mean when articles are being written patting them on the back for the “second highest turnout in history”, and only 27% showed up last year, it’s a problem. When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections. >


When young people don’t show up, young people lose elections.

Absolutely agreed. But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand. You're right that the choices about how we're governed are made by people who bother to show up and vote. The other side of that coin is old people accepting responsibility for the fucked up situations created by voting for shitty people for decades. Let's hear it, old folks, step up and take the blame you deserve.
And in taking that blame, acknowledge that you might not have all the right answers about how to vote now, and listen to young people who at least 1) have to live in the world they're voting on, and 2) don't have a long track record of choosing morons for office.
Sorry for the edits. >


But Boomers have been dominating elections since Reagan, which gives them a lot of responsibility for where things stand.

Gen X's first presidential elections were 84 and 88. Check how they voted then. Problem doesn't go away with the Me generation. >

Can we please just be as blindly loyal as Republicans until Trump dies? >

We won't be. Like every other opportunity, we'll piss it away. (I say this as a lifelong Dem who is so tired of taking the high road. Dark Brandon makes me happy. Let's keep doing it.) >

Yeah. I mostly like Joe Biden especially as president but I don't want to go out here worshipping him like some do Trump. Decking my room with Biden merch seems so unnecessary lol. >

The worship is what's frightening to me. Proudly voted for Obama and Joe Biden because I thought they were the best choice. I was voting for POTUS, not joining a cut. No need for clothing, signs, or  bumper stickers. >

No, we don’t. >

We do not. I wasn’t polled. Dark Brandon until he says no more. >

He needs to run again. Incumbents have a massive head start. If he would have picked a stronger VP, then I’d be ok with him retiring but we can’t afford to risk one of these nutty republicans winning. >

Bullshit. >

No we don’t >

I was one of the people that voted for Biden just because he wasn't Trump. I didn't want him at all, but it beat the alternative.
Now after 2 years of watching him go, I would happily vote for him again. No one is more surprised than I am by this. >

Biden is doing well, And he should finish out his agenda. We can talk about who is next after his 8 years. Democrats and the Americans people by extension, are very happy with him. >

Is this ageism? Yes the democrat leadership is old but very knowledgeable and successful driving polices thru in spite of 100% Republican opposition. This is no small feat. >

I don't see anyone else running against DeSantis and winning. If the economy improves and Russia is defeated then I think the current admin should stay. >

Biden has done a great job. Now fucking retire and let a new generation take the wheel. >

If only there were a popular grownup to take the wheel. >

Based on two years of President Biden, I would be happy with another four years of President Biden. >

No I don't. Stop trying to stir up shit for clicks. >

I'd vote for him in 2024 speak for yourself Jeff Bezos >

i'm a dem and i'm fine with joe. >

I like Biden cuz he gets stuff done and doesn’t complain or blame others. 
He treats others with respect even if they don’t see eye to eye. 
He thinks before he speaks. 
These are REAL leadership qualities. >

All I want for 2024 is justice for January 6th. And I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about every republican member of Congress who supported him, refused to hold him accountable for a fucking coup attempt, or endorsed his efforts after the fact, which is basically all but a few. 
And Biden definitely isn't the guy to make this happen. Not sure if anyone has what it takes to do the right thing, in which case it doesn't really matter who the nominee is. This country is fucked. >

ALL you wanna see is people you don’t like punished for their wrongdoing? What about free healthcare, fixing the broken legal system, workers rights, legal weed, housing the homeless, education, trans rights, reproductive rights etc? 
Don’t let the media’s coverage of the insurrection distract you from the real problems that actually need fixing and impact everyone’s day to day life. >

Exactly. January 6th was shitty but it’s nothing compared to the ongoing, decades long atrocities and the deep corruption in our healthcare, immigration, education, and economic systems. 
Making January 6th your top priority is going to play out like the Mueller investigation: it won’t end in justice. The problem is much deeper than one incident. >

Jan 6th is like Pearl Harbor, the titanic, the holocaust and 9/11 all rolled into one. It’s that big of a deal and we must never forget or focus on anything else until we are all satisfied with justice being served. >

I think dems might screw themselves over if they end up wanting to boot biden even if he keeps doing good things and getting positive press. >

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like Democrats wanted someone else for 2020 right up to the point that he trounced everyone in the primaries. I don't know any Biden Democrats (me and everyone else in my little circle wanted Warren) but apparently they are out there and they really want an establishment, 80's style politician in the White House. >

We need someone younger and more progressive. >

He's a great guy, but he's too old.  The party needs new blood.
But if he's the nominee versus whatever f*ing monster the GOP puts forward, then he sure as hell will get my vote. >

Meh, this article is kind of pointless, and I’m not sure their numbers back up their conclusion >

No one is completely happy with their politicians except for the cult. We're always going to want a better candidate but all these articles are just bullshit stirring of the pot trying to divide the left.
Biden is doing a whole lot better than I expected. If he runs again the party won't support a challenger. So it's completely moot. If he decides to step aside he'll have to do in the next couple of months so the next options have the time to mount a successful campaign. Either way the ball is in his court.
TL;DR no one runs against an incumbent. Media is trying to stir and cause division on the left. >

We wanted someone else in 2020 and 2016 too. >

Not sure about you, but I got exactly who I wanted in 2020.
Which was basically anyone but Trump. >

I don't disagree with this statement.   My point was simply that the DNC seems to choose the worst most inept candidates for us to vote for. >

Well, if you remember, Biden was in 8th place after Super Tuesday and the DNC made literally everyone still in at the time pull out of the race to dogpile on him out of fear of Sanders commanding lead.
At the end of the day, the establishment will protect itself and that's not going to change. >

I do remember.   That's why I'm dumbfounded by all these downvotes.   The DNC literally did everything in their power to push the more popular candidates out in favor of Biden.
Same with 2016 when they basically gave the nomination to Hillary before the first primary even started.    Even after Bernie kept winning state after state, the narrative was all about the Super Delegates giving Hillary the nomination.
People have a very short memory. >

I think it's people having a short memory combined with them not wanting to remember and also being unwilling to validate the desired policies of younger voters who they constantly shit on, yet demand support from. >

We do?? Why? Biden is getting shit done. >

Nah, Joe's fine. >

Running out of time to pitch someone better. 
Harris is a trainwreck, Buttigieg is a snake (read up on his time with McKinsey), and Sanders (the one good option) isn't getting any younger. >

Katie Porter is the answer, I'd like to see her run regardless. At the very least as a counterpoint to the clown show that will be the GOP primary to drag the conversation back to reality as Biden will remain above the fray. >

She's excellent, but wasn't her last election very close? >

She lives in a very Republican area. >

It’s honestly a little annoying that this is even controversial. Democracy is dying, we need someone younger that excites people. Especially since Desantis will likely run as the fresh, young(er) face of the Republican Party. Nobody gets passionate about a career politician in his 80’s. >

I don’t want anyone else at this point. All this clickbait media talk of “someone else” is fucking delusional less than 2 years from the election. >

I want someone younger. Someone that knows what the cost of housing is today. Someone that isn't old enough to collect Social Security. Not Mayor Pete. >

Biden can run and win BUT he has to answer the GOP/GOP Media campaign that he has mental impairment.  It's really the only thing the GOP media has been able to use against Biden.
So Biden takes an MoCA test and publishes it.
It's a fair ask on any canddiate from 70's on. >

You're giving Fox News far, far too much credit.
It's not the case that a younger Biden or a Clinton that never used email or an Obama who released a longform birth certificate would be fine in their books.
Whoever the 2024 nominee is, the Trump crowd will 100% argue some grounds on which they should be disqualified. Ditto 2028.
They aren't operating in good faith. 
You can want Biden to submit to whatever, proceed. But don't argue that he should do it because then Fox News won't have anything to use against him. They will. They always will. And when you say stuff like that you're not only wrong, you're legitimizing Trump world by operating as if they're good faith actors.
They aren't. The starting point is Democrats are disqualified. They backfill the rest later and will always do so, no matter what you do. >

If Biden was 10 or 5 years younger his poll numbers would be 5 or 6 pts higher then they are now. The only serious thing dragging him down with democrats is his age.
But lets be serious. There are no other democratic names that have his standing and ability to rally the democratic party at the moment who have spoken about wanting a real race in 2023. There simply isn't the appetite for "anyone but biden" conversations. Bernie is older, and not palatable to centrists and conservative dems, and no one else has the ground game to even begin the fight. Harris is not popular outside California and has been almost  non-entity in the Biden Administration, beyond that she doesn't have appeal to younger voters and progressives.
So we got Biden. If he runs he'll probably face Trump again, and the win will probably be even larger then last time, as Trump is not as popular as he was pre-Jan 6th. Desantis could beat Trump, but such a win would fracture the Republicans as Trump has the real crazies who will never accept someone not handpicked by Trump. And Trump is unlikely to accept anyone winning who isn't him and doesn't literally kiss his ring.
Bottom Line. Dems are stuck with Biden, because no one else has the party and the money and the ground game. >

And this is how dems let donnie win again. FFS >

Biden set voting records.  Why try to fix what is not broken? >

Not-Trump set voting records. >

It’s not healthy for democracy when you have (in 2020) a 74yo President and 78yo candidate for President.  An 80yo speaker. A 70yo Senate Majority Leader. A 78yo senate minority leader. 
Come on - where is the talent being transitioned into leadership while they are at their working peak?
If Biden (82) and Trump (78) face off in 2024 it will just be sad.
Kudos to Pelosi for handing over so smoothly.  I hope both the Dems and GOP do the same for President in 2024. >

please for god sake. and not hillary clinton. please. just a rational, sane human being >

Biden, Hilary, or Kamala = a GOP win if they don’t have DT split the party.
Biden will be blamed for inflation, yes, smart people know that it is across the globe. But Smart people do not make make up the majority of the voters. 
Hilary is tainted for life. 
Kamala is just not a person a majority can get behind. Her VP stent did not improve her personality or likability. 
I am glad Dems are seeing it because DeSantis will eat them up. >

Some Democrats want change. Many of us like Biden. >

The Democratic Party is really a loose coalition of many different factions.
The Republicans tried to portray their house speaker debacle by saying that was a sign of healthy democracy, to question the status quo. Lol.
Then they will turn right around and say that progressives who like the Bernie Sanders or AOC types hate Biden and will defect from him!!!111
Well I'm one of those, and I might not hate the guy but he certainly not in my top three candidates of choice.
But if he runs as the incumbent in 2024 and there is no primary, then of course I'm going to support him. The Republican Party of fascism is in its death throws and I'm all too eager to twist the knife.
2028 could roll around with the GOP having been completely imploded Allah the Whig party pre-civil war.
That primary will be fun to engage in. >

I would vote for him again. He has done a good job.
He is really old. I would like someone else. >

Never got help with education or affording childcare. Politicians made it clear, the child rearing generations don’t matter. Only the Medicare generation. >

If it's Trump I want Biden to run. That's as close to a sure thing at this point that Biden would defeat Trump.
If it's DeSantis I think Dems gotta go with younger blood. >

Median voter age is 39-45. He’s like double that. We just want someone that’s even in the ballpark of the average. >

This democrat doesn’t. If he runs and there’s a primary, it’s a 95% chance that I’m voting for him unless there’s a health scare. >

I just don't want any geriatric fucks running no offense Biden / Trump / Sanders. >

Democrats wanted someone else last time, too.
What difference did that make? >

As a person, he's a good and decent man. As a 2020 candidate he was the right person to run because he was probably the only one who could have beaten Trump - a white, male, establishment moderate that less-hardline conservatives who were done with Trump could vote for without feeling guilty or like they were betraying all their values. As a president, he's been fine on some things, disappointing on others, great on very few, and overall hasn't been anywhere near progressive enough for my taste.
He has, fortunately, assisted in my sleep at night and for the last two years at least I've gotten to wake up every morning without my first panicked thought being "oh God what did he tweet."
He's too old. He shouldn't seek a second term and someone much younger needs to run. Maybe Hakeem Jeffries should step up to the plate. >

Democrats, meaning registered Democrats, may want someone else and someone younger. I can understand that, but to be honest, I like Biden and wish we could count on him living forever. But seeing how that plan worked out for Ginsberg, maybe it is time to move on.
Another relevant question is whether the Democrats have anyone else to offer that a majority of Americans will vote for?
I personally don't know the answer to this but one thing I have learned over the last decade or so is that the political polling  industry can be practically useless at times. 
Party insiders seem to want to be able to run Biden against a bruised up Donald Trump, always indicted but never quite convicted. Running against MAGA election deniers worked out pretty well for the Democrats in 2022. Can we still run against MAGA election deniers without Trump actually running? Is anyone else going to beat Trump in 2024? >

We need a younger generation & while he is proving to b a lot more of a democrat than Obama or Clinton it’s not gonna b enough in the most important ways especially into 2024 when the GOP won’t leave office if they win imo >

Promoting someone else for 2024 is a proactive move. The Dem strategy has relied too heavily on the "that's how it's always been done" model and the smarter dems have had it. >

Democrats have an insanely strong bench but all these old folks won’t get out of the way. >

Please GOD, may we have a candidate who is not over 70 years old. >

Bernie will beat trump if bernie runs