>

How would that help the US or the Palestinians?
I thought Benjamin was facing a shut load of corruption charges and more. Did he beat them? >

No, he just bribed a bunch of parties in to backing him and got the premiership and the ability to screw with the police and company before he could get sentenced. >

Interesting. Can the Israeli PM pardon himself? (Also while we're at it: can the U.S. President pardon himself?) >

The US President can’t pardon themselves, but what Nixon did was resign and then have his VP pardon him once he became President >

We as a race need to realize that electing crooks just isn't in our best interests.
One day... >

Or electing politicians deep in a cult. (aka religion) >

I don’t think the problem with Bibi is his religiousness. The man is a snake who will say and do literally anything to get power. >

It is a related problem though, because Netanyahu is able to partner with fundamentalist religious parties (who don't care about civil liberties or the rule of law) to pre-empt his corruption cases in exchange for inflicting religion on the rest of the public, such as forcing public transportation and stores to close on the sabbath, and allowing majority-fundamentalist communities to discriminate against the non-religious. >

Yeah I agree. What I meant was Bibi himself has no religion (or principles), and that he’ll govern as religiously or secularly as he needs to keep power. In this case, you’re right that means governing ultra religiously. >

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Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.
Some waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading "Crime minister" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.
Netanyahu, 73, who himself is fighting corruption charges in court, had already served as premier longer than anyone in Israeli history, leading the country from 1996-1999 and 2009-2021.


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Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.
Protesters brandished signs with slogans including "Democracy in danger" and "Together against fascism and apartheid" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.

...

Netanyahu took office late last month at the head of a coalition with extreme-right and ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties, some of whose officials now head key ministries.
It includes a politician who late last year admitted tax evasion and a clutch of far-right personalities, including one who once kept a portrait in his home of a man who massacred scores of Palestinian worshippers.

...

Israel's new justice minister this week announced a reform programme including a "derogation clause" allowing parliament to override decisions of the Supreme Court.
Opposition leader Yair Lapid denounced the reforms, saying on Twitter that it "endangers the entire legal system of the State of Israel". >

Trump looks on and drools with envy. >

Interestingly enough, this court reform will make the courts in Israel a lot more like the American ones.
In Israel, judges are chosen by a non-political, professional entity - and not directly by politicians. One of the biggest changes of the reform is that judges will be picked by politicians - just like in the US.
Basically, Bibi is trying to replicate the situation in the US, where the SC is clearly divided into right wing and left wing judges, is highly political and vote according to whatever president nominated them. So in a way, Trump already had (and heavily exploited) the system that Bibi is trying to create. >


where the SC is clearly divided into right wing and left wing judges, is highly political and vote according to whatever president nominated them

Close. It’s actually divided into those that follow logic, precedent, and the Constitution versus the ones appointed by Republicans. >

I’m sure I will get downvoted for this BUT the issue isn’t the SC, it’s congress. Take the Roe v Wade repeal, the SC said there is nothing in the constitution that specifically guarantees the right to an abortion, therefore according to the constitution laws regarding abortion should be left up to the states. If congress wanted to guarantee rights to abortion, they could have passed a law that said that, but they never did and according to the constitution, anything that’s not a specific federal law, is left up to each state to decide. >


If congress wanted to guarantee rights to abortion, they could have passed a law that said that, but they never did and according to the constitution, anything that’s not a specific federal law, is left up to each state to decide.

Yeah but no. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law protecting freedom of speech because it IS in the Constitution. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law against self incrimination because it IS in the Constitution. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law protecting a right to privacy, because it IS in the Constitution… at least according to the 1973 SCOTUS it was.
The Supreme Court has the final say on how to read the Constitution and they almost always follow precedent, so there was no reason to think Roe was in danger. EVERYONE was under the impression that the matter was settled, which included the Republican judges who said it was settled in their confirmation hearings.
You’re basically arguing that Congress should pass laws protecting freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to own guns, the right to a defense, etc, just in case the SCOTUS overturns those too. >

I don't think you realize you accidentally proved his point. There's no constitutional amendment protecting abortions. There are constitutional amendments protecting the rest of the examples you used. If Congress had codified the decision then there would be no argument but because they didn't it left it open to challenge. But they didn't. That's the whole point. >

I didn't do anything I didn't intend to do. Read Thomas's concurrence on Hobbs. He's (erroneously) making the argument that unenumerated rights aren't protected by the Constitution.
Let's see what the Constitution has to say about that...

Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The Roe decision was correct. The Hobbs decision is wrong. It's as simple as that. Congress shouldn't have had to do shit. Fascists do the same thing in every country on earth... they take away human rights. That's what happened here. >

It's not a right and not protected under the 9th amendment until it is law. The very next amendment states anything not under federal law is left to the states to individually decide. It's that simple. I don't agree with the decision either but that doesn't change the fact Congress dropped the ball. If anything be mad at your Congress person and senators for not codifying the decision for literally 50 years. >


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

That's fine and all, but the 9th Amendment literally protects rights that aren't enumerated anyway. So this simply states any powers not given to the government are held by the states >


Thousands of Israelis protest

Must be Tuesday. >

I only protest when Shas wants to defer train maintenance on Shabbos. Like bruh, you’re a convicted tax cheat, not a transportation expert. If that train ain’t here at 7:05 AM, Tel Aviv gonna erupt like it’s Yamit 2000. >

Demonstration MARCH, no destruction....quite different from Brazil. >

How many died in Brazil? >

The coalition of church and state bring out the worst in humanity, it’s old power.  If there’s one thing that dooms our civilization, it will be this. >

I guess we’re lucky that the church and state aren’t intertwined in Israel then! >

did you miss the /s or are you just delusional? >

What do you mean? Israel is a Jewish country. Jews go to the synagogue and not the church. >

church is mostly associated with any religion so by you saying 

I guess we’re lucky that the church and state aren’t intertwined in Israel then!

most people, such as myself, assumed you were talking about religion in general, which is not the case as it seems >

It was not. Still don't get why people downvoted my second comment though, there was literally nothing at all controversial about that. >

welcome to Reddit >

Elect a clown, enjoy the circus. >

Calling him a clown is idiotic.
He's as far as can be. He's a huge asshole but he's smart and calculated. If you relegate yourself to thinking of every opponent as an idiot, you're just hurting your chances to beat them. >

“Elect a demagogue, enjoy the slow deterioration of civil liberties” doesn’t have the same ring to it. >

All these stupid glasses bal people voting for the Netanyahu, Erdogan and bolsaranos of the world blow my mind.
So much stupid. Everywhere. >

They tell people what they want to hear, and inevitably people fall for it. >

Is it too extreme a concept to ensure that those who make the laws aren’t breaking the laws? >

You voted in a cult of personality. That is what you get. >

Doubt many of those people have voted for Bibi. Israel is very divided politically >

Only 23% voted for Bibi.
The real scary thing is the hyper religious right parties gained 10 seats at the cost of left wing seats (Labor and Meretz combined lost 9 seats) and Bibi is elite at uniting them under Likud’s banner.
This is the most right wing Israeli government in history. >

Demographic change. As more religious people believe it's a religious prerogative to populate the land, the more people will vote religious/ethno nationalist parties. It is also kind of direct consequence on founding a country on the basis 3,500 year old religion. >

100%
Also former Soviet state Jews move there vs Western Europe/U.S. by more than 2:1 now and a lot of them carry pro-right wing strongmen ties after leaving countries with former Soviet bents >

Mizrahi Jews support the Lukid. Theyre from MENA and not Ashkenazi >

Yes them too >

IS should cut off all aid to Israel while Netanyahu is in charge of their government. Or anyone like him. >

They bought it, knowing he is a criminal and a fascist and a fraud. More than once. No one to blame but themselves. Same with us and Trump, except we successfully kicked that pathetic bastard to the curb, hopefully for good. >


we ~~successfully~~barely (by 45,000 votes out of 155,000,000 cast) kicked that pathetic bastard to the curb >

Yeah, 9 million. >

Republicans have done a good job making 8.95 million people of a lead disappear. >

Fascist pieces of shit >

There’s plenty of democracy in Israel. They have an election like every 6 months. >

Protest is part of democracy, as it is a majority rule system.  Sometimes the minority get pissed. >

As they should. Israel has its most right-wing government ever. It's Likud and all the Haredi parties, even the Otzma Yehudit. >

Man that guys  like athletes foot in the summertime… >

End Apartheid >

The fact that the US tosses out billions in welfare to such an extreme right wing genocidal country speaks volumes >

I really should have invested in pitchforks and torches in 2023… >

Just curious why didn’t the people vote for the other parties if they knew this is the outcome? >

They thought Bibi has a spine and will rain Ben Gvir in. I don't know what gave them the idea Bibi has a spine but here we are >

None of the people at the protest thought that. They did not vote for Bibi. >

You would be suprised how many people regret voting for Bibi. >

During which elections? >

In the last 4 years? All 1900 of them. >

Can someone who understand the situation well explain why they would even vote him back in.   Seems like they did this to themselves. >

No party ever gets a majority of the votes so every government is a coalition of parties. In order for a party to get seats they need to get 3.25% of the vote (this will be important) otherwise their votes are wasted and don't count. The Pro-Netanyahu and Anti-Netanyahu coalitions each got 50% of the vote BUT 2 parties that were part of the anti-Netanyahu coalition each got 3% of the vote. Thus while the actual vote was 50-50, the seats were distributed 53% For Netanyahu and 47% Against Netanyahu. All it take is 51% to form a government. >

Thank you for this breakdown, really appreciate you took the time to explain this. >

I wonder when people will realize Israel is just another fucked up middle eastern country like all the rest. >

Hey US congress, how about we not sell this country our weapons, that would be great. >

How would that help the US or the Palestinians? >

Benjamin Netanyahu is a far right authoritarian who pushes the hate towards the Palestinians and uses the weapons that the US sells to them to commit human right violations. A theocracy government that bulldozes homes and shoots ppl in the streets because they think they have the right over a different group of ppl. 
Tell me how you think it wouldn't help the Palestinians if the US didn't sell weapons to Israel. I can say it would hurt the war lords of America >

I think that Israel is able to accept indiscriminate terrorist rocket attacks because the US covers much of the Iron domes cost, and if that money goes away then the gloves come off. >

Saw that coming. Won't be suprised when nutty yahoo goes missing. >

Jesus christ. Again? >

Not everything is about the us, but we had a protest here that looked extremely similar. I’m sorry, world. >

Democracy is in danger with the Right-wing fascist, Netanyahu. As long as he's in charge, there's no hope. >

The people voted it’s Israeli democracy at work IDK what you’re goal is >

Protests are a vital part of democracy. Not sure what you think democracy is. >

Well they are protesting that the democratic process didn’t work in there favor >

No, they are actively participating in the democratic process. >

Thanks AIPAC. >

How does AIPAC have anything to do with this? >

How reliable is france24 dot com? >

No idea, but it's a protest that happened.. doesn't take much to look it up >

People rise up against their neo liberal masters …. DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER!! Nah , it’s been dead for a while now.  It’s more like “ save our plutocracy!!” >

Yup, its everywhere in media. Brazil, Israel, the U.S. the fourth estate doesn't want anything except to solidify their own power. >

Many were demonstrating against Areyeh Deri, the head of the Shas party who won 11 seats. They say he should not be a minster for past mistakes. But had Shas thrown its hat with Lapid and the left, we wouldn’t be seeing these demos. It’s purely political. The right won 64 seats. >

Past mistake my ass he was convicted for courrption and even admit about it. >

Fuck Nathan Yahoo . >

How did that criminal get back in power, though? >

It would be nice if 2023 was the year when lots of corrupted politicians, across countries around the world, were ousted out the office. >

Netanyahu is a neo-fascist. Okey fascism in Europe did horrible things to the Jewish minorities but the ideology of Netanyahu is the same. I hope he will not cause a humanitarian crisis in Palestine. I hope Israel will get rid of this right-wing narcissist. >

Nah it's done. The ultra orthodox, own the country now. They don't work, don't serve and spend all day in "school" reading the torah. They do however have but have an average of 6 kids who then do the same and contribute the same >

Can we not have another country become fascist...
FOR FIVE MINUTES >

Humanity needs a reset. So much bad news I'd even race god to the mega flood button. >

What about Palestine, or do we not talk about those things? >

...What about Palestine? What does this have to do with that conflict? >

That’s not democracy. >

Of course it is, peaceful protest is one of the most important tools a democratic society has. 
It's not like they're trying a coup, like people in certain other countries - it's just protest. >

✡️✡️✡️ Bye bye, Benji! Let's elect a real Jew this time, not General Genocide in a yarmulke!! Not that I have a vote, being a Jew in Texas, but hey I can still post ✡️✡️✡️ >

I thought Benjamin was facing a shut load of corruption charges and more. Did he beat them? >

No, he just bribed a bunch of parties in to backing him and got the premiership and the ability to screw with the police and company before he could get sentenced. >

Interesting. Can the Israeli PM pardon himself? (Also while we're at it: can the U.S. President pardon himself?) >

The US President can’t pardon themselves, but what Nixon did was resign and then have his VP pardon him once he became President >

Ultimate troll >

We as a race need to realize that electing crooks just isn't in our best interests.
One day... >

Or electing politicians deep in a cult. (aka religion) >

I don’t think the problem with Bibi is his religiousness. The man is a snake who will say and do literally anything to get power. >

It is a related problem though, because Netanyahu is able to partner with fundamentalist religious parties (who don't care about civil liberties or the rule of law) to pre-empt his corruption cases in exchange for inflicting religion on the rest of the public, such as forcing public transportation and stores to close on the sabbath, and allowing majority-fundamentalist communities to discriminate against the non-religious. >

Yeah I agree. What I meant was Bibi himself has no religion (or principles), and that he’ll govern as religiously or secularly as he needs to keep power. In this case, you’re right that means governing ultra religiously. >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 73%. (I'm a bot)


Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.
Some waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading "Crime minister" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.
Netanyahu, 73, who himself is fighting corruption charges in court, had already served as premier longer than anyone in Israeli history, leading the country from 1996-1999 and 2009-2021.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 Netanyahu^#2 includes^#3 protested^#4 against^#5 >


Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.
Protesters brandished signs with slogans including "Democracy in danger" and "Together against fascism and apartheid" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.

...

Netanyahu took office late last month at the head of a coalition with extreme-right and ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties, some of whose officials now head key ministries.
It includes a politician who late last year admitted tax evasion and a clutch of far-right personalities, including one who once kept a portrait in his home of a man who massacred scores of Palestinian worshippers.

...

Israel's new justice minister this week announced a reform programme including a "derogation clause" allowing parliament to override decisions of the Supreme Court.
Opposition leader Yair Lapid denounced the reforms, saying on Twitter that it "endangers the entire legal system of the State of Israel". >

Trump looks on and drools with envy. >

Interestingly enough, this court reform will make the courts in Israel a lot more like the American ones.
In Israel, judges are chosen by a non-political, professional entity - and not directly by politicians. One of the biggest changes of the reform is that judges will be picked by politicians - just like in the US.
Basically, Bibi is trying to replicate the situation in the US, where the SC is clearly divided into right wing and left wing judges, is highly political and vote according to whatever president nominated them. So in a way, Trump already had (and heavily exploited) the system that Bibi is trying to create. >


where the SC is clearly divided into right wing and left wing judges, is highly political and vote according to whatever president nominated them

Close. It’s actually divided into those that follow logic, precedent, and the Constitution versus the ones appointed by Republicans. >

I’m sure I will get downvoted for this BUT the issue isn’t the SC, it’s congress. Take the Roe v Wade repeal, the SC said there is nothing in the constitution that specifically guarantees the right to an abortion, therefore according to the constitution laws regarding abortion should be left up to the states. If congress wanted to guarantee rights to abortion, they could have passed a law that said that, but they never did and according to the constitution, anything that’s not a specific federal law, is left up to each state to decide. >


If congress wanted to guarantee rights to abortion, they could have passed a law that said that, but they never did and according to the constitution, anything that’s not a specific federal law, is left up to each state to decide.

Yeah but no. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law protecting freedom of speech because it IS in the Constitution. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law against self incrimination because it IS in the Constitution. Congress doesn’t have to pass a law protecting a right to privacy, because it IS in the Constitution… at least according to the 1973 SCOTUS it was.
The Supreme Court has the final say on how to read the Constitution and they almost always follow precedent, so there was no reason to think Roe was in danger. EVERYONE was under the impression that the matter was settled, which included the Republican judges who said it was settled in their confirmation hearings.
You’re basically arguing that Congress should pass laws protecting freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to own guns, the right to a defense, etc, just in case the SCOTUS overturns those too. >

I don't think you realize you accidentally proved his point. There's no constitutional amendment protecting abortions. There are constitutional amendments protecting the rest of the examples you used. If Congress had codified the decision then there would be no argument but because they didn't it left it open to challenge. But they didn't. That's the whole point. >

I didn't do anything I didn't intend to do. Read Thomas's concurrence on Hobbs. He's (erroneously) making the argument that unenumerated rights aren't protected by the Constitution.
Let's see what the Constitution has to say about that...

Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The Roe decision was correct. The Hobbs decision is wrong. It's as simple as that. Congress shouldn't have had to do shit. Fascists do the same thing in every country on earth... they take away human rights. That's what happened here. >

It's not a right and not protected under the 9th amendment until it is law. The very next amendment states anything not under federal law is left to the states to individually decide. It's that simple. I don't agree with the decision either but that doesn't change the fact Congress dropped the ball. If anything be mad at your Congress person and senators for not codifying the decision for literally 50 years. >


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

That's fine and all, but the 9th Amendment literally protects rights that aren't enumerated anyway. So this simply states any powers not given to the government are held by the states >


Thousands of Israelis protest

Must be Tuesday. >

I only protest when Shas wants to defer train maintenance on Shabbos. Like bruh, you’re a convicted tax cheat, not a transportation expert. If that train ain’t here at 7:05 AM, Tel Aviv gonna erupt like it’s Yamit 2000. >

Demonstration MARCH, no destruction....quite different from Brazil. >

How many died in Brazil? >

The coalition of church and state bring out the worst in humanity, it’s old power.  If there’s one thing that dooms our civilization, it will be this. >

I guess we’re lucky that the church and state aren’t intertwined in Israel then! >

did you miss the /s or are you just delusional? >

What do you mean? Israel is a Jewish country. Jews go to the synagogue and not the church. >

church is mostly associated with any religion so by you saying 

I guess we’re lucky that the church and state aren’t intertwined in Israel then!

most people, such as myself, assumed you were talking about religion in general, which is not the case as it seems >

It was not. Still don't get why people downvoted my second comment though, there was literally nothing at all controversial about that. >

welcome to Reddit >

Elect a clown, enjoy the circus. >

Calling him a clown is idiotic.
He's as far as can be. He's a huge asshole but he's smart and calculated. If you relegate yourself to thinking of every opponent as an idiot, you're just hurting your chances to beat them. >

“Elect a demagogue, enjoy the slow deterioration of civil liberties” doesn’t have the same ring to it. >

Is it too extreme a concept to ensure that those who make the laws aren’t breaking the laws? >

You voted in a cult of personality. That is what you get. >

Doubt many of those people have voted for Bibi. Israel is very divided politically >

Only 23% voted for Bibi.
The real scary thing is the hyper religious right parties gained 10 seats at the cost of left wing seats (Labor and Meretz combined lost 9 seats) and Bibi is elite at uniting them under Likud’s banner.
This is the most right wing Israeli government in history. >

Demographic change. As more religious people believe it's a religious prerogative to populate the land, the more people will vote religious/ethno nationalist parties. It is also kind of direct consequence on founding a country on the basis 3,500 year old religion. >

What's ironic is that the first European Jews who started to emigrate to Israel were not particularly religious, and the people who declared the State and Independence were largely non-observant socialists, or at least had socialist leanings.
Israel has been driven a long way from those times. >

Yes, Ben Gurion was committed socialist. But the reality is that it requires a literal interpretation of the bible 'i.e. land was given to Jews by God' to create a country in that part of the world - this is fundamental issue with Israel/Zionism regardless of its secular/leftist origins. >

Or just... written and recorded history. The Romans didn't invent the Jews being there, nor did the Assyrians or Greeks. >

All these stupid glasses bal people voting for the Netanyahu, Erdogan and bolsaranos of the world blow my mind.
So much stupid. Everywhere. >

They tell people what they want to hear, and inevitably people fall for it. >

They bought it, knowing he is a criminal and a fascist and a fraud. More than once. No one to blame but themselves. Same with us and Trump, except we successfully kicked that pathetic bastard to the curb, hopefully for good. >


we ~~successfully~~barely (by 45,000 votes out of 155,000,000 cast) kicked that pathetic bastard to the curb >

Yeah, 9 million. >

Republicans have done a good job making 8.95 million people of a lead disappear. >

Fascist pieces of shit >

There’s plenty of democracy in Israel. They have an election like every 6 months. >

Protest is part of democracy, as it is a majority rule system.  Sometimes the minority get pissed. >

As they should. Israel has its most right-wing government ever. It's Likud and all the Haredi parties, even the Otzma Yehudit. >

Man that guys  like athletes foot in the summertime… >

End Apartheid >

The fact that the US tosses out billions in welfare to such an extreme right wing genocidal country speaks volumes >

I really should have invested in pitchforks and torches in 2023… >

Just curious why didn’t the people vote for the other parties if they knew this is the outcome? >

They thought Bibi has a spine and will rain Ben Gvir in. I don't know what gave them the idea Bibi has a spine but here we are >

None of the people at the protest thought that. They did not vote for Bibi. >

You would be suprised how many people regret voting for Bibi. >

During which elections? >

In the last 4 years? All 1900 of them. >

Can someone who understand the situation well explain why they would even vote him back in.   Seems like they did this to themselves. >

No party ever gets a majority of the votes so every government is a coalition of parties. In order for a party to get seats they need to get 3.25% of the vote (this will be important) otherwise their votes are wasted and don't count. The Pro-Netanyahu and Anti-Netanyahu coalitions each got 50% of the vote BUT 2 parties that were part of the anti-Netanyahu coalition each got 3% of the vote. Thus while the actual vote was 50-50, the seats were distributed 53% For Netanyahu and 47% Against Netanyahu. All it take is 51% to form a government. >

Thank you for this breakdown, really appreciate you took the time to explain this. >

Hey US congress, how about we not sell this country our weapons, that would be great.