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I thought presidents could psychically declassify
10 documents Biden's lawyers notified DOJ and the National Archive of and handed over. Verses 325 documents DOJ and the National Archive had to notify Trump's lawyers of and then Trump refused to return.
The only similarity here is that documents are involved. The amount of documents, cooperation with DOJ & Archive, and return of the documents is all different. >

From when he was VP. That means he’s had the documents for a decade. >

Having documents isn't the crime Trump is accused of. Refusing to return documents and obstructing efforts to retrieve documents is the crime Trump is accused of. >

I’m not talking about trump. I’m talking about Biden. How do you forget for a decade that you have classified documents just lying around? >

I know. My point is having the documents isn't a crime. There is no double standard here. Had Trump turned his documents over when the National Archive asked there wouldn't have been a raid at Mar-a-logo. >

Weird cause it would def be a crime if I brought my work home and there was big red letters saying secret on top >

“Makes available to an unauthorized person” bringing home classified documents is for sure in that category, you think hunter Biden has a TS clearance? >

I can even understand that Trump had documents.
It's the fact that he was so hellbent on not giving them back, wasn't cooperative, and lied about having them >

Let's not even give that much lee way here. I, personally, cannot understand why Trump had nuclear and CIA secrets at his private residence that had already had multiple security incidents during his presidency.
But who are we kidding. This is it. It's being talked about. Diversion successful I suppose. >

Watch the Republicans impeach Biden over this. Of course it won’t work but they’ll do it anyway. >

They will impeach him over the wrong ice cream choice. >

That's only an impeachable offense if the ice cream flavor happens to be seafood. >

Or mint chocolate chip. 
“I’m sorry Mr president that isn’t ice cream, it’s toothpaste.” >

Ok that’s offensive. >

Mint chocolate chip is objectively bad ice cream. It tastes like toothpaste. I mean if you like it we can still be friends but I think it’s pretty gross lol. >

That’s a controversial answer and I wish you luck on your future endeavors… >

If I have any! I didn’t realize this was such a hot button issue the internet is shredding me over it! 😆 >

Things like facts don't matter in MAGA world.
They still believe Obama stole 33,000 documents because they were moved to his Presidential Library. >

This is correct and mind you if they found 1 doc we would be having the same 24/7 Fox news cycle. >

Hilary had 6 whole emails SENT To (not from) her email server that potentially had classified markers.  They still talk about it. >

Yeah I know and they also shift positions on the topic when applied to Trump.
They have no position.  They have goals.  It is pointless to discuss the nuances because they are not interested.  It is a war to them and they operate that way. >

There is zero reason to think that any conservative is going to even acknowledge this fact let alone care even if they could absorb it into their demented perception of reality. >

Correct. Facts, details, nuance, etc. do not matter even a little bit. >

Biden’s team immediately contacted the National Archives and returned those documents. Trump was still arguing he had every right to possess said documents after he was no longer in office. Big difference. >

I've already seen a ton of MAGA dorks on twitter spewing shit about how "well, guess Trump is clear now" and other nonsense. It's absolutely amazing how little actual facts and truth means to those people. They're denser than a damn black hole. >

Reactionaries can only react. >

Sure there is.  Anyone with a functioning brain sees the difference.  Then there's Fox.  And republicans.  They won't see it that way.  And they will spend vast amounts of money convincing Americans that the two are the same.  Ugh. >

They’re reeeeing non stop at /r/conservative about this >

And banning anyone who disagrees with their narrative - even conservatives. It’s not about the facts, it’s not about the law. It’s about fueling the rage machine that empowers them. >

You are banned from /r/conservative >

I was banned years ago for quoting a Trump tweet in response to someone saying, ‘He never said that!’ r/conservative tolerates no inconvenient truths. >

You are double banned from /r/conservative. Keep going and they’ll make it a TRIPLE BAN 😡 >

Yeah, Biden's lawyers immediately contacted the proper channels and returned it.  Trump lied and stonewalled. >


There's a key difference between the classified documents found at a former Biden office and the ones Trump kept at Mar-a-Lago, national security expert says

"No there isn't," say people who don't read
Seriously, I looked at the comments section of the Fox News article reporting it and those folks were asking "well where was the FBI raid?" and "if Biden isn't charged then Trump shouldn't be charged." 
That Trump repeatedly refused official document requests and lied to the government about what he had doesn't seem to phase them. >

I just can't fucking stand how there ALWAYS seems to be similar shit that happens for Republicans to point to... Every goddamned thing a Republican does we find out later that a Democrat did too in some way. It's never as bad, but just the fact that we can never have a clear instance where someone was simply wrong and they were the only ones to do it. 
I'm so sick of the "both sides" b.s being validated in some way every day... >

How about this: both instances should be investigated thoroughly and fairly. Contents of the files, intentions on why they were kept, who had access to them, and level of cooperation with investigators should be taken into account. Let's not point fingers or both-sides this. They are individual cases and one doesn't excuse or condemn the other. >

This whole sub: excited and agreeing cheering >

I’m not really seeing that to be honest from this sub. >

A few documents found in a Washington, DC office doesn’t even compare to multiple boxes of of nuclear documents found at a Florida beach club in the hands of a guy who tried undermining Democracy and who’s now selling superhero cryptocurrency cards of himself. >

No shit. >

I swear these investigations into documents and laptops is just a smoke screen to try finding more of Hunter’s dick pics. >

Trump's being for sale, being the major difference. >

It doesn’t matter obviously. Nothing ever happened to Trump, despite all of this shit being found in his possession. I still can’t believe nothing ever happened of that. Just an embarrassment >

It’s literally still in court these things take time >

Do republicans/FoX news/NewsMAXX/OANN care? 
Nope. They will just read classified documents found. >

Biden- mistake on a few documents, dumb mistake but owned up to and no threat
Trump massive theft  attempt to hide repeated lies massive nat sec risk criminal action  against America treason  and multiple felonies 
Lock him up 
End of story >

Nuance isn’t something Republicans understand. >

Heard a few people suggest this was leaked by the DOJ to provide cover for Trump. Now begins the "whataboutism" and 'both-sidesism' and the Right screaming for Biden's head. >

I fucking hope so. >

They found them and turned them in immediately. >

The difference is intent. In one case, documents were discovered and immediately turned over to the appropriate authorities, and they'll investigate how that happened. In another case, a large amount of documents were purposely taken, for what reasons we can $peculate, and after many, many requests from the authorities they finally had a judge sign off on a search warrant and conducted a raid. Of course if your a pootin cockholster or a supporter of one, you'd be incapable of understanding the ~~fine nuance~~ obvious differences between the two cases. >

Several key differences actually.  The first one is that the documents were locked up, so nobody else could see them, unlike the ones at Mar a Lago which anyone could access (and Mar a Lago is full of spies).  The next major difference is that Biden immediately handed over the documents to the National Archives as soon as they were found, unlike Trump who lied about having the documents for a long time and refused to return them when requested.  Trump broke many laws, whereas Biden did not.  The third major difference is that Biden only had 10 documents, whereas Trump had thousands.  The fourth major difference is that Biden likely left those documents there by accident and forgot about them.  Trump knowingly took thousands of documents illegally with the intent to sell them.
Of course, none of these facts will get in the way of Republicans being outraged about this and saying it's worse than what Trump did.  Republicans will lie, as is tradition. >

Of course there is… but the GOP base doesn’t care about nuance and facts and will equate the two as identical and equal. And it will be broadcasted by Hannity et al. >

One turned them in and opened an investigation immediately. 
The other is Trump. >

The key difference here is that it is actually plausible that Biden read the documents. There's no way in hell Trump had th3 capacity to understand anything in any formal document. >

I've heard that Biden didn't break the Espionage Act because the classified documents were returned immediately... 
but you guys can correct me. >

I've heard that Biden didn't do anything wrong because he declassified everything on day one with his President mind trick. 
/s >

I actually had people responding like as if they had a real comeback to this.
"Uhh no Biden can't just declassify documents with his mind, stupid blue cult!"
Like boy did your president not use the same talking point? >

I saw once where someone clearly joked that Obama had declassified with his mind, and the response was to ask for a source. Looking them up, they weren't kidding.
Yeesh. >

Biden declassified them with his Jedi mind trick anyway. >

I assume these were documents that Obama declassified with his mind before he left office, which were then planted by the FBI. >

I think ultimately the only crime here is Biden/his team never returned the documents once his VP term ended. So just have the investigation and dish out appropriate punishment.
Which is probably going to go like this:
“Hey so you kept this docs”
“Yes that’s our bad we just forgot about them. We didn’t intend to keep them”
“And you handed them over immediately when you found them?”
“Yes, again our bad sorry about that”
“Ok well you didn’t really mean to steal them, so we will recommend the lowest punishment”
“Which is?”
“Eh probably a small fine or something”
It’s a world of difference from what trump did. >

Part of me thinks the Biden admin is doing this on purpose to give DOJ excuse not to indict trump. They are trying to avoid more civil unrest. >

I agree, seems like a very tour of jail free card for the orange bastard. Convenient as hell. >

Of course the right may try to make something of this but they'll tread carefully if they have any sense. The dumbest among them will yell the loudest. That's their function