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Yes.  Maybe.  Exploitation may still happen but I would hope we would have ways to combat this.
I’m glad one of them got arrested but there are others who were involved too. All of them need to be held accountable. I’m sure they will eventually be arrested since they are all on video. >

I’m sure there will be more to come. This initial charge was likely just because it was so blatant.
If it’s true that the parent reached out to the school to report the behavior multiple times, the school and administrators are liable here too. >

Can you image being unable to help your child in that situation? I have a 5 year old, and the thought of this happening to him is sending me to dark places. >

Imagine being the parent and having to watch that. After telling the school your child was being bullied and harassed.
Then Watching your son try to protect his sister only to have his face stomped on.
Hopefully I never have to experience it. >

I think i would end up in prison… >

Law Abiding Citizen is a completely different movie after getting married and having kids. >

I wanna watch that now >

Stop watching it about 5 minutes before the end or it will be ruined for you.
The whole movie is incredible up until then >

The ending felt really forced and just doesnt flow with the movie >

It did, almost like they write a great story with the hero winning until somebody looked at the finished product and said "oh shit isn't he technically a bit bad? Call jamie" >

Tf kind of 14 year old boy beats on a 9 year old girl? >

One that should spend some time in jail. Hold a few pockets. >

Putting a child in prison won’t rehabilitate them so they grow up to be a valuable member of society. Or even a member of society. Putting a child behind bars will only ensure that child grows into an adult who is a danger to society. This kid did something terrible but they need help. Not to be thrown into a cell and ignored for 20 hours a day. >

My point is let his ass rot in jail. If you don’t know you shouldn’t beat up a 9 year old girl as a boy at 14 we good without ya. Hopefully you do some dumb shit while you’re in there to stay put. Nobody helped that girl. He didn’t punch her once. He did it until he was exhausted. Until he physically couldn’t any longer. Fuck him >

My point is he’s a kid. So let’s not just throw the whole kid out and give up on him and say his is a life wasted and unworthy of participating in society at 14. What a terribly sad world view so many people here have that they’re willing to condemn a child for the rest of his life. >

So what you’re saying is, his behavior needs to be corrected?
Fortunately we have a whole department specifically dedicated to that purpose. >

If you honestly believe that you know absolutely fuck all about the US “justice” system and I have some NFTs to sell you. >

No. I know a good deal about it. 
I just don’t believe in coddling someone like that. 
You’re the one on here coddling someone assaulting a young girl.
Prison is where he belongs. 
Separated from others he can hurt. >

You definitely don’t know anything about it at all. Let alone “a good deal about it”. No one here does. If you did you’d be outraged at how we’re treating children and teaching them to be bad and dangerous adults instead of advocating to lock kids up. >

This 14 year old is already there, he doesn't need to age another arbitrary 4 years to be deemed dangerous. >

If you read the article it actually says that this is a super common issue at the school and the administration refuse to do anything. They even used the excuse “what happens in PE, stays in PE” after a gym class incident. Another mother pulled her son out of the school because they were ghosting her about the bullying. >

Sounds like parents should sue the school or the school district. >

I’m not sure teachers get qualified immunity. >

Jesus wept…if that had been my daughter there’d be no power on earth capable of stopping me from ending that teacher. Hell she’s not even my daughter and I want to end them on general principle… >

Very important: NOT a teacher, a principal. Teachers don't have this kind of protection. >

If she really reported multiple times the bullying and nothing was done. Administrators should face small prison time for negligence. >

That was horrifying to watch. The child doing the beating is seriously disturbed and if he’s not stopped will eventually kill someone. >

Hopefully they actually get something on his record that will show up when he gets old enough to try to buy a gun.
Too often, kids like this get a slap on the wrist, or sealed records, and at 18, the FBI does their NICS check and says "Nope, no criminal record for this guy!" >

Nothing about this looks like an isolated incident.
Looks like the tip of a very large iceberg. >

From the article:
This mother says her son, who's in the third grade, was repeatedly physically bullied by his peers. She tells us she reached out to the school several times, messaging teachers and administrators, only to be ignored or not answered for weeks.
"There was an incident during P.E. and she said that what happens in P.E. stays in P.E. and that to me was just bewildering," >

Rule number 1 of P.E.? You don't talk about P.E. >

What’s rule number 2? You don’t talk about P.E.? >

I experienced verbal and physical bullying on the bus as a kid. Like many others, I tried to report it to teachers, but nothing happened. I was lucky enough my mother agreed to work around her work schedule to drop me off and pick me up after many incidents of tears and pleading.
Most students report incidences to the bus driver, but most of them don’t do anything more than just say something to the kid in that moment. The bullies see that nothing really happens to them, so the behavior continues. You promote what you permit and the behaviors continue.
Today, I am a public educator myself (4th grade). I take bullying in all forms very seriously and teach my students how to properly report incidents on the bus. Reports need to happen ASAP as it is difficult for me to hold any individual student accountable based on “it happens all the time.” I ask my students for the bus #, time of day, what was actually said or done, and any witnesses that I can follow up with. Often times, victims don’t know the full names of perpetrators or their teacher’s names. I do my due diligence and check class rosters and ask other trusted students on the bus.
I keep detailed written reports and follow through with my administrators. Afterwards, I check in with the students to assure that the negative behaviors have stopped, or that administration has actually taken steps.
Many of my colleagues are aware of “the bus”, but most of us are so totally burned out with everything on our plates these days. Due to my own childhood trauma, I am the teacher that gets on the bus with these kids and looks the perpetrators in the eye and tells them that their behavior will not continue if they plan to continue riding the bus. My students know I mean business and will follow through, so I receive many reports. When these reports involve students outside of my roster, I make it known to the other teachers and administrators. 
Children deserve a safe learning environment. Any great teacher knows that learning only occurs after a child feels safe. Great teachers put the needs of children above all else. Great teachers know that every student in the building is “their student”. >

You’re an absolute legend for this, the kids are lucky to have you. >

That isn't acceptable parents and school should be sued to rags >

That district will be sued to rags for sure if they acknowledged that there has been prior conflicts before this.
It's perplexing how school districts these days just decide to ignore these conflicts and let them boil to a head. And then complain why they are the bad ones here. >

I don't understand why schools protect the assailant in these bullying cases. Just seems like a gigantic liability. It seems much simpler to punish the aggressor and call it a day. Suspend them, expel them, who cares. I know it's cruel to say but from the school's PoV it seems safer to me to actually deal with this situation and get rid of the problem child, instead of protecting them and enabling them to do this for years and years. >

That's what I never understood either. I'm not sure if it's because they don't get the full story and just make a blanket policy of punishing any and all involved (both perpetrator and victim) or if those officials were in the shoes of the perpetrator as a kid and sympathize with them? 
I remember hearing about a girl getting sexually assaulted and she then fought back after multiple reports to teachers and telling him to stop. The principal told the parent "what's the big deal? The kid was just pulling on her bra strap? He only realized the error of his ways until the parent started feeling up on his junk and asked him if he felt uncomfortable having that happen to him. 
Plus many teachers tend to be apathetic to kids and just downgrade the severity of the situation to the authorities. >

It just seems like blanket incompetence to me. Don't assume malicious intent when stupidity is a readily available explanation etc etc but... It seems crazy to me. If I was an admin in a position of power and I saw a video of an older student beating on a 9 year old, assailant instantly expelled. No context necessary. Not only is it the morally salient option, it simply seems pragmatic to get rid of a psychopath in the making. I just don't get it man. >


It just seems like blanket incompetence to me

And thats exactly what those school districts have these days. 
Malicious intent when it involves kids also falls into the realm of gross negligence because teachers are taught to understand the plight of kids and see signals when something is going on. 

If I was an admin in a position of power and I saw a video of an older student beating on a 9 year old, assailant instantly expelled.

If I read it right, others were saying that this kid was already reported about other threats before this came to a head. So if the admin didn't punish that kid, they would be sued beyond belief and parents lined up in their office to berate them for such negligence. If the threats were already there the questions shouldn't be "did you expel this kid yet?" Bur rather "how the hell could let this escalate to such violence?" >

Go after the parents. Send them to jail. >

Dumb fucking parents of dumb fucking kids. >

This school is like 10 minutes from me. This is absolutely heartbreaking. We need to do away with the term bullying in these cases. I don’t give a flying fuck if they’re kids, this is assault. >

If not an outright hate crime. >

Many years ago I was beaten, trapped in the aisle of a school bus.
A mentally ill student was beating me with her metal lunchbox. 
The driver finally stopped and rescued me.  
My family sold our house and moved to another town. There was no other way to escape from her. >


My family sold our house and moved to another town. There was no other way to escape from her.

Wow.  That is horrible.
What the hell do we do with mentally ill and/or emotionally disturbed people.  Sadly caring for them outside of usual public institutions is too expensive for society to accept.
Peace and healing to you. >

There are so many mentally ill people in my city, people who live in the streets and are strung out on any pill they can get their hands on. It almost feels like everyone else is just bait - tempting them to rob or beat or rape or kill so that the cops can lock them up for good. It is so shitty and I wish there was a better option. >

The Insane Asylums of the past were horrific but maybe better than the streets?  Maybe not? >

I mean, hospitals of the past were pretty horrific too. Boarding schools, convents, all kinds of institutions were far more abusive and exploitative than they are now. I think maybe we should bring back public institutions for mentally ill people who have been found incapable of caring for themselves. >

Yes.  Maybe.  Exploitation may still happen but I would hope we would have ways to combat this. >

Totally. Like having doctors and staff wear bodycams the way cops do, so if there is a complaint it can be investigated. I feel like we are missing out on the perfect solution to a huge problem just because it was done badly in the past.
There is just so much help out there for homeless people who are just struggling financially, and pretty much no help for homeless people who are too mentally ill to adapt to shelters and housing programs. It's just like, "oh well, we tried, we can't help them if they don't want help." But maybe the person with paranoid schizophrenia who is taking street drugs shouldn't be making the call about whether or not they get help. >

One guy I knew who had been homeless said the ones that really need help are invisible.  
Lots of work to do in this wounded hurting world. >

Worthless shit offspring of worthless shit parents. >

Truly wastes of space >

Could only watch a couple of seconds of this video as this was very disturbing to watch. >

Where is this video?  The one i saw started pointed at the ceiling of the bus and panned down to the 14 yo wailing on the 9yo. >

you wouldn’t be in jail.. you were at my place drinking beer…. >

I watch the first 48. I would leave my phone at your house. Proof I was there drinking with you lol >

The police find your reddit and it’s all over, rookie move >

I'd be out for blood. I'd be knocking on doors and taking it to these little shitbags' parents. >

This is why I don’t and likely will never own a firearm. IMO they are more likely to be used it in a violent fit of rage then used it for its real intent, like defending my life/home/possessions/loved ones with it. >

I wanted to bring my gun on a road trip and my favorite client once said “if you bring it you’ll use it, the people driving all erratically are looking for reasons to use there’s” I started thinking of all the situations I’d have it in and how I would act just knowing it’s there it’s scary to think about. And I’m fairly rational 😂 >

Do you find yourself flying into murderous rages often? And discussing that with clients? >

The part where the kid is punching her repeatedly with both fists, that kid needs to be locked in a psych ward. There’s something seriously wrong with him. >

Someone needs to beat the crap out of him in prison >

They only did something because the video went viral and televised. >

Mother here.. my son was in 2 nd grade. I dropped him off and decided to wait parked to watch him. Some older kid walked up to him was talking then grab this collar and was spinning him around , he was like a rag doll! I got out of my car walked up to the kid and did the exact same thing to him.
This was 40 years ago! Things were different back then! Now days I probably would have gotten in big trouble! 
I look back at the experience and realized it was like I wasn’t even thinking, my kid was being abused and as a Mom I had to protect.. >

That reminds me of the time my dad basically threatened to kick my vice principles ass if they ever suspended me for defending myself back in the early 2000s. 
Would you believe he was always nice to me after that encounter as well? Lol >

Yeah I’m the early 70’s yup I’m that old! Growing up in the area I grew up it was common for parents to teach the kids how to fight back.. like really fight … we all survived those school years! >

This is when parents need to sue the school district for subjecting their children to abuse. The principals and teachers would be part of that lawsuit. 
Then sue the bully's parents. Hit them in the pocket. Blow up their names on social media..
I'd make their lives miserable. Children are sent to school for an education and to be a punchbag. >

Sadly this kid may have no parents or very marginally involved parents.  Maybe not but often the problem with this kid goes back generations.  Ugh.  Horrific.
I hope legal interference stops this kid from ever doing anything like this again by whatever means. >

I will never forget when my daughter was in middle school. Parents were in the main office. I had gone to pick her up early for a Dr appt. 
Here I am sitting waiting and in walk in two parents that looked like they just rolled out of bed. The school had called them up because the demon child was bullying kids and doing as he pleased.
And what shocked me the most was what I heard next. Parents were pissed because and I quote, "When he is home, he is our problem. When he is in school, he's your problem. Don't ever call us up here again." They turned around and walked out the door. My jaw just dropped. >

Yeah.  So many kids come by their problems honestly.
I had a student who described being fed snow with soy sauce for a meal.  It was a good day if we made it through without him spitting on anyone.
How to deal with such situations is just mind boggling. >

Enormous funding boosts to CPS and giving them sharper fangs would probably go a long way. 
And hate to say it, but we need to make expulsions easier for public school.  Ruined kids shouldn't be ruining others, once they are at that point where the kid has become disruptive just existing at the school, it's time to send them to a state school or let the parents place them elsewhere at their expense. >

So it still sucks to be a kid in 2023? Fuck >

"School officials failed ot act" should be on the DOE seal. >

Holy fuck that video just enraged me, that poor child. 
If that happened to my kid and the school knew about it im out for blood and ain't stopping til someone went to jail for it. If it means I have to beat the shit out of the father, I would. >

I hope the mother presses charges >

I went through this same shit from K-9th, bus drivers and admins/teachers just brushed it off and never handed out consequences, even when my dad angrily approached admins at school for doing nothing.
Shame that kids are still dealing with this now, its not bullying when it comes to assault and bodily harm. >

Some professional fighters are never the same after brief fights. Now imagine one of those same fights and one of them is four weight classes bigger. Fuck that kid. If you’re honest with yourself, you knew which kids around you in school weren’t going to be worth a fuck when they grew up and you probably weren’t wrong. >

Arrested but I bet nothing is going to happen. >

The video is highly disturbing. I want the students responsible held to account but at the same time I'm cringing thinking what their lives are like if this is their behavior at this age. >

Probably not the best home life. But that does not absolve them of the consequences of their actions. >

Yeah reason is different than an excuse.  But as young as they are I sure hope that they take what's coming to them and change for the better >

We can only hope. >

This can normalize the behavior to the other kids on the use They should not be witnessing this behavior. >

If someone did this to my kid I'd be very tempted to beat the shit out of that asshole >

Makes me wonder about what goes on in the homes of bullies to have turned them into such animals. That video footage was utterly shocking. >

It’s stuff like this that has me dead set on putting my son in some form of martial arts once he’s 4. He needs to be able to defend himself because too often it feels like adults are failing the children in their care. From zero-tolerance to zero-interference. >

I’m doing the same for my grandkids.  I would have given anything as a child to have not just been taught how to defend myself but to have the confidence to be able to at all.  That confidence is unimaginably valuable and is the main reason behind that being something I want for them. >

It’s also an art! They could enjoy mastering an interpretive craft. >

Man I just yelled at some kid for harassing and calling my sweet little boy names. I can’t imagine my reactions if I found them beating them up. >

The administration at the school chose to ignore the problem. That much was obvious by the bullying continuing. So the administration is to be held accountable. >

You're going about your day, when suddenly, a stranger unloads some invective at you.  They verbally abuse you and you wonder if it's going to get physical and how far that's going to go.  Later, you try to figure out what happened.  You try to tell yourself that it happened to you, not because of you.  And that's hard to internalize as an adult.  How do you help a 9 year old who's humiliated, hurt and very angry to understand it?  It's an effort of months and years, to help a child heal. >

More kids were involved. There needs to be more arrests. >

These people committed a hate crime. Wonder why there isn’t riots for this? >

That is disgusting behavior. If my kid bullied others like that I’d throw them in juvenile detention myself. I can’t imagine the trauma those poor kids have to deal with because of those little shits bullying them. I actually feel sick watching this. >

Sue the school district and name the administrators by name in the lawsuit. Start at the top: superintendent, principals, and the school board to start. 
The adults continually allowed the bullying and ignored reports from parents. Highly unlikely the teachers were listened to at all if they reported issues. >

Cant wait for this bullies mom/environment he is such a good boy comments. How this will ruin his young life. But then again if his parents dont pass a certain income threshold... 
Meanwhile if when the bullied kids step up they are the ones villified and have to reap the concequences of their actions.
Really curios how this will end. >

Why is a 14-year-old on the same bus as a 3rd grader? >

Could be a small district. In my district all buses are K-12. >

My kids will be going to a private school you have to pay to get in. Fuck this inner city trash >

A lot of these kids grow up an the violence they are allowed to commit remains unchecked, it's not just professions like police, they become teachers, coaches, they're your neighbors. >

You're absolutely right. Its good to be aware of who is contributing and encouraging violent behavior in young people. >

If that was my kid being beaten, I'd find that punk ass kid and beat the shit out of him myself. idgaf. >

“You gonna run out on your dad? Take a look, he’s doing this for you.” 
Cold ass line, Colin Farrell was one of the few good parts of season 2. >

I didn’t click on the video to watch it but I saw the blurred thumbnail and I wish I hadn’t. Wtf. Those boys probably kill small animals for fun. >

Good piece of shit lucky nothing else happens to him I know that girl has some people who care about her gonna want some revenge. >

Jeez.  Are these kid’s training for the Hunger Games?  Savages. >

Looks like a hate crime to me oops I hope no one gets mad lol >

Kids are mean. This shit has always happened to people. Schools do nothing about it. Throw the book at these kids, they have ruined their lives before they even began. >

There is something wrong at that school. Good kids shouldn’t have to suffer and be dragged down by a few bad students. Sorry but some kids have no business being in a regular school. >

Bullying is an epidemic. If nothing is done to stop /prevent it from happening, it spreads like a virus. >

The takeaway here is not that videos identify bullies, but that videos identify school staff who DGAF >

what type of person beats on a little girl...like that was his 1st though? def too much lead in his sytem, at 18 hell be living in a cage >

That school sounds horrible, multiple reported incidents of bullying and assault and they do nothing?!?
Great job on whoever recorded this, the school, the district and the parents of that child should all be held accountable for their neglect in protecting children and creating a safe environment for them to learn, without the video, this awful action would've just been ignored again by everyone in a position of responsibility. >

Because its racist if the school starts to take action. >

I remember a teacher watching me being beaten up in 3rd grade and just completely ignoring it. We had anti bullying campaigns that my bullies would laugh at and the teachers didn’t actually do anything. And all these teachers saying it’s not their responsibility… so shameful. They could do SOMETHING! I got bullied so bad in elementary school. Things that still affect me today many years later. >

Animals. Being raised by animals. >

I am told he is a well respected member of the community. >

Why were middle school students and such small children on the same bus? >

Looks like it’s a K-12 school. So they are probably packing the buses with kids who are getting dropped off in the same general areas versus kids of the same age group. >

I could never sit and watch that happen irrespective of where or when it took place. Nor the age they are. >

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To those who prey on the weak, just remember that some people do not forget and that everyone has to sleep sometime. >

I can't imagine what her parents feel seeing that video. 
I feel like if thst happened to my child, the parents of the other children would be in danger.  But, probably not I guess because I do my child no good in jail. >

Am I the only that thinks the story about "what happens in PE stays in PE" is a r*** case? >

K-8 in one school is far too much of a range especially if trouble makers are not expelled. >

Unfortunately, For anyone to be taken seriously these days a lawsuit must be filed, requesting large monetary damages. It’s only when you hurt the pocketbook of the guilty institutions that usually gets peoples attention and such situations are remedied to avoid further costly litigations. >

Nows the time for the authorities to call for anymore victims to come forward because this is definitely not a one off incident & put this school under investigation >

A 9 year old girl was beaten by several older boys.  Imagine what these boys will be doing to girls in a couple of years. >

Bullying is a problem in almost every school in this country and educators chose to do nothing.  
It’s often endorsed and encouraged by some teachers and many entitled parents. >

If the family of that kid(including the victim) weren’t racist they sure are now. >

They need to arrest the kid in the red shirt too, they want to act like animals then treat them like that, cage them. It’s where they are headed to, cage them now and maybe they’ll learn before it’s too late. >

If I would have been around while this was happening I would be in jail right now. >

Watching videos like that beating make me wonder why Elephants are against abortions. >

The appropriate way to deal with that bully is to cut their hand off. I'm lenient so they can keep one of their hands. >

I'm sure the governor will get right on this bullying problem. >

I smell a lawsuit against the school coming >

Is this the school that is going to suspend kids for filming fights?
because filming abuse the school isn't stopping is bad for the school image. >

This is no excuse, but I'm curious to know what's going on in their home lives. Those kids need discipline and therapy. >

I work for a title 1 school in Florida where fights happen every day. Teachers and admin are probably thrilled for the attention and that those kids are removed. It is very hard to get a student expelled / removed. There are students with 30+ incident reports for fighting and when you ask admin after a fight why the student is back they tell you they are picking their battles, as we should, and expect us to continue instruction. (FYI these students make instruction impossible) When your school IS the school they send these kids who have been expelled from other schools for fighting but can't be "left behind, " you can't do much. >

And I’m sure the principal of the school probably took one look at the beaten kids and said “well they deserved it for being themselves too much at school”. >

Ask the bully’s parents where their child learned that behavior. >

holy shit this is in my city…. >

The victims will be punished accordingly. >

So many schools now are more dangerous than min. Sec. Prisons wow. >

This isn’t a kid problem, it’s a parent problem. The kids learn this type of behavior from their parents and I would be shocked if any of the parents take responsibility for this disgusting behavior. Chances are if the kids are punished at all, it will only be for getting caught. >

And so many say homeschooling is bad. SMH. >

It is :) >

Getting pummeled by a teen double your age and 3 tines your size can be bad as well >

That school kind of looks like a prison from the outside. >

I bet that more than 50% of us need anger management treatment >

What about the bus driver? He didn’t notice anything? >

I would give my kid $200 to go find a senior in high school to beat the shit out of that POS. >

Sick little f*k, hope he makes “friends” in juvenile detention. >

i agree that it’s fucked up and he should face consequences, but hoping a child gets prison-raped is disgusting. >

Right… jumping the conclusions is part of your daily enjoyment and routine, i do pity you. >

so what did you mean by “friends” then? you wanted him to have real nice buddies who take care of him? >

Ok, your frame of reference differs from mine, i understand. So within this frame you presumed I was hoping he gets raped… Not fully aware of daily life in juvy, but, and here I’m presuming, i presume getting his ass kicked a few times would be something far more within expectations. The amount of punches raining down on a 9 year old girl by this 14 year old big kid is infuriating and leads to some wishful thinking but rape was not on the menu. >

I, for one, am just glad that Florida is going to start tracking menstrual cycles of teenagers and, thank the good Lord, these “teachers” can’t choose which books they want to their students to read. Heil, Ronald! >

Really has his priorities straight. >

As a dad of a beautiful 2yo girl. That boy would get a fucking beating >

As always, this seems to be a result of systematic negligence on the school part. >

Whatever you do, don’t blame the parents or the kids themselves. >

I’m referring to the fact that other kids had incidents like this and parents had reported it to school. School ignored them. >

That’s the point where the dad goes full Tony Soprano on the kid. When I was 7, we had a neighborhood bully. Big meaty, loud mouthed kid. He beat me up the first day of school, my mom signed me up for taekwondo. A few days later, I hit that mfer with kick to the gut, sent him flying! Never fucked (physically at least) with me again. He then turned his animosity to my friend Flip. He did the same thing to Flip, but Flip had an older brother😏 never had I been so satisfied than when I saw Flips older, gangbanging brother, come out the house, chase Alex around and beat the shit out of him with his belt. Alex never bullied us again 😊 >

Reasons like this is why all of my children will learn martial arts. >

Boxing is better. Knowing how to throw a punch is a very important life skill. >

I would have a hard time not beating this kid back. Holy shit. I could tie him up and put him thru hell for hours if that was my son. Hopefully these poor kids dad isn’t as dumb as me >

There would be a bunch of kids with broken legs if this shit happened to my kid. >

Maybe Florida should stop focusing on banning books and start focusing on student behavior and consequences for actions. >

I guess all the administrators are focusing too much on banning books & NOT SAYING GAY than focusing on real, actual problems? Like violence?
 That tracks >

Well, it’s a good thing the drag shows are being hunted down in Florida. That will help these folks. >

Nice whataboutism. >

I would beat the fucking piss out of that kid and murder his father right in front of him >

The is what Schools are under Ron DeSantis >

Yes because this doesn't happen anywhere else. Crazy. >

If we’re at that point, then homeschooling seems like a better option. >

My husband and I have been considering homeschooling. Between schools allowing bullies/abusers to go unchecked, the gutting of arts/civics/critical thinking, and the pushing of Christian “values” I just don’t see the benefit of public schools. >

My oldest is only 3 so we’re in the infancy stage of “should we homeschool?” So we’ve been talking to parents who homeschool and those who take their kids to public school. 
But you’re absolutely right. More parents should go to those meetings because your taxes are paying for this and we should ensure the money is going to the right places. Shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. >

With how the world and youth are changing, it's more important now to teach them martial arts. It will give the child confidence and an ability to not be fucked with >

No Martial arts training is helping a little girl against three older kids. But I agree kids should learn BJJ as soon as they are in elementary school. >

The kid would be buried the next day if that was my daughter. >

I would be re-enacting True Detective Season 2 , "What happened to your shoes?" scene >

Reparations will fix this issue but not the school resource officers. >

Mental illness seems to be getting worse every generation from Gen-X and on. The parents of these kids would be millennials or so in their 30's. The first generation with computers and the Internet everywhere. >

The Internet is raising children in the US >

before cell phone cameras, shit like this happened all the time >

Homestead Florida?  Who’s surprised? >

This is what guns are for. >

My kid is in mma, for this exact reason. If I can't defend him. He can definitely break someone's arm >

Where’s the full video? >

here you go
First second is the girl beating on a kid sitting down. >

Thanks for the video. I can’t agree with your take though. It’s just not clear enough, this looks like two kids of similar sizes going at it. >

I’m glad one of them got arrested but there are others who were involved too. All of them need to be held accountable. I’m sure they will eventually be arrested since they are all on video. >

I’m sure there will be more to come. This initial charge was likely just because it was so blatant.
If it’s true that the parent reached out to the school to report the behavior multiple times, the school and administrators are liable here too. >

Can you image being unable to help your child in that situation? I have a 5 year old, and the thought of this happening to him is sending me to dark places. >

Imagine being the parent and having to watch that. After telling the school your child was being bullied and harassed.
Then Watching your son try to protect his sister only to have his face stomped on.
Hopefully I never have to experience it. >

I think i would end up in prison… >

Law Abiding Citizen is a completely different movie after getting married and having kids. >

I wanna watch that now >

Stop watching it about 5 minutes before the end or it will be ruined for you.
The whole movie is incredible up until then >

The ending felt really forced and just doesnt flow with the movie >

It did, almost like they write a great story with the hero winning until somebody looked at the finished product and said "oh shit isn't he technically a bit bad? Call jamie" >

Tf kind of 14 year old boy beats on a 9 year old girl? >

One that should spend some time in jail. Hold a few pockets. >

Putting a child in prison won’t rehabilitate them so they grow up to be a valuable member of society. Or even a member of society. Putting a child behind bars will only ensure that child grows into an adult who is a danger to society. This kid did something terrible but they need help. Not to be thrown into a cell and ignored for 20 hours a day. >

My point is let his ass rot in jail. If you don’t know you shouldn’t beat up a 9 year old girl as a boy at 14 we good without ya. Hopefully you do some dumb shit while you’re in there to stay put. Nobody helped that girl. He didn’t punch her once. He did it until he was exhausted. Until he physically couldn’t any longer. Fuck him >

My point is he’s a kid. So let’s not just throw the whole kid out and give up on him and say his is a life wasted and unworthy of participating in society at 14. What a terribly sad world view so many people here have that they’re willing to condemn a child for the rest of his life. >

So what you’re saying is, his behavior needs to be corrected?
Fortunately we have a whole department specifically dedicated to that purpose. >

If you honestly believe that you know absolutely fuck all about the US “justice” system and I have some NFTs to sell you. >

No. I know a good deal about it. 
I just don’t believe in coddling someone like that. 
You’re the one on here coddling someone assaulting a young girl.
Prison is where he belongs. 
Separated from others he can hurt. >

You definitely don’t know anything about it at all. Let alone “a good deal about it”. No one here does. If you did you’d be outraged at how we’re treating children and teaching them to be bad and dangerous adults instead of advocating to lock kids up. >

This 14 year old is already there, he doesn't need to age another arbitrary 4 years to be deemed dangerous. >

If you read the article it actually says that this is a super common issue at the school and the administration refuse to do anything. They even used the excuse “what happens in PE, stays in PE” after a gym class incident. Another mother pulled her son out of the school because they were ghosting her about the bullying. >

Sounds like parents should sue the school or the school district. >

I’m not sure teachers get qualified immunity. >

Jesus wept…if that had been my daughter there’d be no power on earth capable of stopping me from ending that teacher. Hell she’s not even my daughter and I want to end them on general principle… >

Very important: NOT a teacher, a principal. Teachers don't have this kind of protection. >

If she really reported multiple times the bullying and nothing was done. Administrators should face small prison time for negligence. >

That was horrifying to watch. The child doing the beating is seriously disturbed and if he’s not stopped will eventually kill someone. >

Hopefully they actually get something on his record that will show up when he gets old enough to try to buy a gun.
Too often, kids like this get a slap on the wrist, or sealed records, and at 18, the FBI does their NICS check and says "Nope, no criminal record for this guy!" >

Nothing about this looks like an isolated incident.
Looks like the tip of a very large iceberg. >

From the article:
This mother says her son, who's in the third grade, was repeatedly physically bullied by his peers. She tells us she reached out to the school several times, messaging teachers and administrators, only to be ignored or not answered for weeks.
"There was an incident during P.E. and she said that what happens in P.E. stays in P.E. and that to me was just bewildering," >

Rule number 1 of P.E.? You don't talk about P.E. >

What’s rule number 2? You don’t talk about P.E.? >

I experienced verbal and physical bullying on the bus as a kid. Like many others, I tried to report it to teachers, but nothing happened. I was lucky enough my mother agreed to work around her work schedule to drop me off and pick me up after many incidents of tears and pleading.
Most students report incidences to the bus driver, but most of them don’t do anything more than just say something to the kid in that moment. The bullies see that nothing really happens to them, so the behavior continues. You promote what you permit and the behaviors continue.
Today, I am a public educator myself (4th grade). I take bullying in all forms very seriously and teach my students how to properly report incidents on the bus. Reports need to happen ASAP as it is difficult for me to hold any individual student accountable based on “it happens all the time.” I ask my students for the bus #, time of day, what was actually said or done, and any witnesses that I can follow up with. Often times, victims don’t know the full names of perpetrators or their teacher’s names. I do my due diligence and check class rosters and ask other trusted students on the bus.
I keep detailed written reports and follow through with my administrators. Afterwards, I check in with the students to assure that the negative behaviors have stopped, or that administration has actually taken steps.
Many of my colleagues are aware of “the bus”, but most of us are so totally burned out with everything on our plates these days. Due to my own childhood trauma, I am the teacher that gets on the bus with these kids and looks the perpetrators in the eye and tells them that their behavior will not continue if they plan to continue riding the bus. My students know I mean business and will follow through, so I receive many reports. When these reports involve students outside of my roster, I make it known to the other teachers and administrators. 
Children deserve a safe learning environment. Any great teacher knows that learning only occurs after a child feels safe. Great teachers put the needs of children above all else. Great teachers know that every student in the building is “their student”. >

You’re an absolute legend for this, the kids are lucky to have you. >

That isn't acceptable parents and school should be sued to rags >

That district will be sued to rags for sure if they acknowledged that there has been prior conflicts before this.
It's perplexing how school districts these days just decide to ignore these conflicts and let them boil to a head. And then complain why they are the bad ones here. >

I don't understand why schools protect the assailant in these bullying cases. Just seems like a gigantic liability. It seems much simpler to punish the aggressor and call it a day. Suspend them, expel them, who cares. I know it's cruel to say but from the school's PoV it seems safer to me to actually deal with this situation and get rid of the problem child, instead of protecting them and enabling them to do this for years and years. >

That's what I never understood either. I'm not sure if it's because they don't get the full story and just make a blanket policy of punishing any and all involved (both perpetrator and victim) or if those officials were in the shoes of the perpetrator as a kid and sympathize with them? 
I remember hearing about a girl getting sexually assaulted and she then fought back after multiple reports to teachers and telling him to stop. The principal told the parent "what's the big deal? The kid was just pulling on her bra strap? He only realized the error of his ways until the parent started feeling up on his junk and asked him if he felt uncomfortable having that happen to him. 
Plus many teachers tend to be apathetic to kids and just downgrade the severity of the situation to the authorities. >

It just seems like blanket incompetence to me. Don't assume malicious intent when stupidity is a readily available explanation etc etc but... It seems crazy to me. If I was an admin in a position of power and I saw a video of an older student beating on a 9 year old, assailant instantly expelled. No context necessary. Not only is it the morally salient option, it simply seems pragmatic to get rid of a psychopath in the making. I just don't get it man. >


It just seems like blanket incompetence to me

And thats exactly what those school districts have these days. 
Malicious intent when it involves kids also falls into the realm of gross negligence because teachers are taught to understand the plight of kids and see signals when something is going on. 

If I was an admin in a position of power and I saw a video of an older student beating on a 9 year old, assailant instantly expelled.

If I read it right, others were saying that this kid was already reported about other threats before this came to a head. So if the admin didn't punish that kid, they would be sued beyond belief and parents lined up in their office to berate them for such negligence. If the threats were already there the questions shouldn't be "did you expel this kid yet?" Bur rather "how the hell could let this escalate to such violence?" >

Go after the parents. Send them to jail. >

Dumb fucking parents of dumb fucking kids. >

This school is like 10 minutes from me. This is absolutely heartbreaking. We need to do away with the term bullying in these cases. I don’t give a flying fuck if they’re kids, this is assault. >

If not an outright hate crime. >

Many years ago I was beaten, trapped in the aisle of a school bus.
A mentally ill student was beating me with her metal lunchbox. 
The driver finally stopped and rescued me.  
My family sold our house and moved to another town. There was no other way to escape from her. >


My family sold our house and moved to another town. There was no other way to escape from her.

Wow.  That is horrible.
What the hell do we do with mentally ill and/or emotionally disturbed people.  Sadly caring for them outside of usual public institutions is too expensive for society to accept.
Peace and healing to you. >

There are so many mentally ill people in my city, people who live in the streets and are strung out on any pill they can get their hands on. It almost feels like everyone else is just bait - tempting them to rob or beat or rape or kill so that the cops can lock them up for good. It is so shitty and I wish there was a better option. >

The Insane Asylums of the past were horrific but maybe better than the streets?  Maybe not? >

I mean, hospitals of the past were pretty horrific too. Boarding schools, convents, all kinds of institutions were far more abusive and exploitative than they are now. I think maybe we should bring back public institutions for mentally ill people who have been found incapable of caring for themselves.