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yeah, it is, i feel that for some reason the ignorance of considering death penalty "due" has just survived to nowadays, but it's just barbaric and stupid, yeah "fuckin' kill him!!" so wise and appropriate /s, like if serving a life sentence isn't enough for every crime you can commit
I don't think it's wrong or barbaric to painlessly euthanize someone who brutally killed, defiled and ate people's bodies (among other horrible examples).
I don't think there's any argument for the rehabilitation of a person like that. You can't let them out, keeping them around is pointless, and on the off-chance they do escape, is their life worth more than the people they endanger? >

True but it’s much cheaper for us to keep them in prison than to carry out the death penalty. >

Is it actually? One would assume that food, clothing, guards' wages, medical care and God knows what else over the course of 50+ years would come out to more than a lethal dose of whatever.
Edit: well I'll be damned. You're right. How the fuck is that possible? >

Because they got rid of the noose. >

Supposedly it's the high cost of re-trials and appeals, which death-row inmates have more access to than genpop folks. >

Yeah I just saw that. Its weird because there's some cases where the evidence is so clear there shouldn't even be recourse for appeals tying up the court. >

It's mostly from outside people or organizations thinking they're doing right by letting them prolong their life or some weird moral hoolahoop >

Legal fees from all the appeals. The guillotine should be use. Quick result. >

i think the death penalty is problematic when it's used as a weapon of oppression. you may even argue that it's inevitable to be so, but i also believe that truly evil individuals who are unquestionable threats to society, such as serial rapists and murderers, should be executed. i don't think it's about playing god as much as it is about doing the right thing. i'm sure you don't agree with that, but that's how i fem. >

Too much of an error rate to use death penalty justly. >

Very true, innocent people have been killed before >

That's another topic. A lot of people killed and the real killer is out there >

Some people deserve the death penalty. >

I don’t feel like that should be for the government to decide >

Who decides then? >

No one, that’s kinda my point >

Some people most definitely deserve to be executed, if someone brutally raped and killed your child you'd want them dead right? I know I would. >

Yes absolutely. I’d make it slow. >

I'd say the death penalty is justified then in cases like this. >

It’s very difficult to say what I may do if such a thing were to happen to my child or loved one, I definitely would want them dead and I accept what you’re saying, but I feel like a government shouldn’t let their emotions cloud their judgement in the name of revenge and should try to see it differently. This person is a danger - lock them up for the rest of their lives. >

There's some strange mental gymnastics going on with your comment here...
You said you would want them dead and that you would make it slow and painful, but you also think that if the government wants to kill them, that they shouldn't let their emotions cloud their judgment in the name of revenge and should try to see it differently?
That doesn't make any sense. >

It does make sense if you're self-reflective. A lot of people aren't.
People are naturally sadistic, especially toward those who have wronged them. When you acknowledge this, even in yourself, you recognize that this is bad and therefore when you're passionate, you shouldn't be in charge. >

One could argue that a lifetime in solitary confinement is way more barbaric than the death penalty. >

Yes fair point, I recognise that >

I’m anti death penalty till it applies to me: like if
Someone murders my family I would change up so fast >

Oh absolutely, no disagreement there >

Why I am against the death sentence:


Someone may not be guilty


Killing them is giving them the easy way out 


It’s more expensive than life without parole >

Generally, I dislike the "easy way out" argument in this debate. Who cares what they (the offender of heinous crimes) want? Their intent/desire/opinion/whatever should not matter. The focus should be on the net positive or net negative of the sentence imo.
When a crime reaches a certain threshold of depravity, I just want them dealt with. For example, the Parkland shooter does not deserve to be alive. I don't care if, in theory, killing him is "easier" than keeping him alive. I want him off of the planet, fading from memory all the sooner. 
I hope my response makes sense bc it's difficult to explain in words :,) >

For me, I care about the punishment. Someone who gets life in prison without parole was found guilty of  something so heinous, that they cannot be released into public life. They can spend the rest of their life in prison which is more of a punishment than going to sleep and not waking up. >

Government is the monopoly of violence >

The comments saying "let them suffer" or "death is any easy out" speaks volumes of how we as a society view prisons as the opposite of the rehabilitation centres they should be.
Rapists should be castrated and tested on instead of animals, same for pedophiles and serious abusers. All of whom should be sent to their creator shortly after and housed in an entirely different prison from people serving time for assault, fraud, driving/drug charges, etc.
A bullet costs pennies on the dollar compared to what it costs to house someone for 10-20+ years. We'd probably see a decline in these crimes if cases were taken more seriously and the odds of a death sentence were tremendously high, however we would NEED to revamp our justice system to avoid sending innocent men to the coals.
I would advocate for capital punishment 100% but right now too many innocent people have lost to the system, and it may be a small proportion, but it's still too many. >

Bro we should punish them ofc but we still gotta be civilized. Forced human testing? Are you serious? Bro just castration, sex offender registry, and prison time (which will come with inmate beatings) is sufficient we shouldn’t become barbaric and uncivilized with punishment. >

True, nothing barbaric about locking people up in cages and castrating them. Are you insane? We do it with animals who haven't done a thing, but a rapist or paedophile has make up tested on him or trials birth control and we're suddenly crossing a line? I don't have any sympathy for those fucks, and neither should you. >

Honestly don’t mind this idea. This would be a decent alternative. Irredeemable people being forced to do a service to the greater community they wreaked havoc on. >

Guy kills 3 people and he gets 3 meals a day in prison for the rest of his life on my tax dollars. Yeah no. >

Use it more >

Daddy chill 😭 >

😂love it! >

I see life for life as the most appropriate option >

I tend to agree with your conclusion if not your justification.  It’s not an unreasonable notion to consider someone’s life forfeit under certain heinous circumstances but as I get older and see the continued exoneration of people cleared by DNA evidence, not to mention the realization that the justice system is run by humans who are just as likely to be corrupt as anyone else, I’m compelled to re-examine my original conclusions. 
I’ve come to believe that no conviction is likely to be so unimpeachable that death is warranted. >

Ah yeah being locked away with other criminals for the rest of your life sounds way better >

If a criminal being left alive makes it likely for more people to be endangered, I think that death sentence is an option. >

I would say it should be not an option to do the death penalty, but life in prison needs to actually mean life in prison with zero chance a politician releases them. Right now the biggest reason to keep the death penalty is because it prevents political meddling, corruption, and incompetence from releasing prisoners that should never be released. 
The only release should result from an appeal and retrial. That said if a prisoner has a life in prison sentence and they would rather die, we should allow them that choice. It's important that the strength and assailability of the sentencing of life in prison gets substantially strengthened before removal of the death penalty. >

Im sure you’d disagree if it was one of your loved ones that had beef brutality murdered by a convict >

Which is why people who have emotional investment shouldn't have any say in what happens. >

I dont feel that death for proven repeat sex offenders or murders is that harsh of a punishment, why put them in prison and use taxpayers money on them >

Usually because of lawyers and the endless appeals, death row prisoners cost more to house for 20 years than life-in-prison without parole for 50 years. >

True 2 wrongs doesn’t make 1 right
literally europe doesnt have that shit and their crime rate is way lower then the usa >

How many innocent people have to be exonerated from death row before we wise up and realize how wrong we are? >

The only people who are against this are people who don't actually understand how often the justice system is incorrect. >

Or sadists. >

There are some people that are just too far gone. Killed tens of people before being caught, showed no remorse, and continued killing in prison... What are you gonna do with somebody like that? Put them in solitary for the rest of their life or put them down. Which one is less barbaric? >

Dude literally europe doesnt have that shit and their crime rate is way lower then the usa >

I know, I am European. >

I sometimes think death sentence is too mild, because you die, and thats it. I think a prison sentence is better, if you have done something unforgivable.  I think you should have to be haunted by it, and feel bad for a long time, to make up for what you have done. >

What does that achieve for society or the criminal? >

Most of the civilized world agrees with you OP. It's another one of those things only the USA and a select few dictatorships enjoy. >

I think torture should be brought back some people dont deserve death they deserve pain >

We start doing that and we become no better than the  scumbags we imprison >

I want to agree with you but then I remember that pedos exist and I suddenly realize that we actually need to expand the death penalty >

I’ve always thought the death penalty was an odd practice. Like sentencing a murderer to death for example. “For your barbaric crime of murder… we’re going to murder you.” Let them rot in jail but don’t kill them >

Or here's a wild idea: get them psychiatric help and a support network, and then reintegrate them into society with oversight? >

Yeah I really bet someone who kidnaps, repeatedly raped and tortures a young child and leaves them for dead can be reontegrated into society. Fuck that. Give them the rope. >

There are situations I am not against it, but I find the barbarity in having them wait in a cell for 10yrs, having been sentenced to death from before they set foot in there, to wait on their execution in the darkness.
If they protest their execution I could see it merciful and just to  be dragged out for legal fights they should be afforded, but if they do not then to do that to them is torture for the sake of torture. 
If you truly mean to kill someone, stop talking and do it. To chain them up and say I mean to kill you, you'll never be released and then come back 10 years later and kill them. Something about takes the monster sign off of them and puts it on the one who does that to them. >

It’s usually appeals and that time is needed. There are a lot of falsely accused on death row. I’m pro-death penalty, but executing falsely accused is far more inhumane than having a prolonged period before the sentence is carried out. >

I'm aware of that element which is why to me it boils down to the individuals response. I'm for what you are for as the default for the sake of those who resist it claiming innocence or simply just not wanting to die but when they say yes I did it kill me I feel very strongly they should get it swiftly.
There are also plenty of people who wish to get it over with and are just being tortured with long periods of time. >

Down voted because this isn't unpopular >

I’m not sure that’s fair, a lot of people disagree! >

The death sentence needs to be applied more and it'll fix a mass majority of the world's problems >

I’m not against the death penalty, but how does it fix the majority of problems? Those that do deserve the death penalty, aren’t demotivated by the concept of being caught and executed for their crimes. Psychopaths believe they are immune and will never be caught >

I don't agree with it but if anyone I love was killed raped etc I'd be screaming for it. I live where its not a thing tbh. I also don't think a lifetime of 3 meals a day in somewhat situations where these fuckers are better than before is punishment. You take my kid you going to hell. Going to feel that fear. >


I don't agree with it but if anyone I love was killed raped etc I'd be screaming for it.

And that's why the victims and their loved ones shouldn't have any say in the matter - they're not thinking rationally. >

OK Einstein >

I dont support the things criminals do and dont look for excuses but  I hate thats society force new membership( kids) to exist but when some individuals dont go the right path society eliminates them like a trashes. 
Yet they say that everyone has right to breed and have a kid. Society should realize that when they push people to have a kids there is a risk a kid can be criminal because you dont have 100 percent certainty it will be good person. Yet society does nothing or minimum to prevent crimes. 
Eliminating criminals is like putting all the blame on them. " They are problem, system is good". Since humanity exist there have been, are and always will be crimes and no one thinks why. 
I dont like society because its hypocrytic and death for me honestly would be blessing. Never being born would be blessing. >

I'm usually against it but I think it should be available for world leaders who use their power to commit war crimes. Specifically because of the scale and also because the influence they maintain may make them too dangerous to be kept alive. 
The execution should be humane and not public. >

Based. >

Agreed. There are cases where demonstrably innocent people have been executed.
One innocent person being executed is one too many. >

It's an interesting topic for sure.
I think the death sentence itself is a sign of a progressed society. When something so heinous occurs and we've formulated an official way to remove dangers that could hinder that progress as well as give families/the people closure and justice. I'd like to hope it also acts as a deterrent. Like hey, don't murder all these people and you yourself also won't die. Seems like a good deal to me. >

it’s both barbaric and silly: it doesn’t deter crime.
No death penalty where I live, though  so it’s not something I have to think about often. >

I hope your opinion is unpopular. I wish more of these citizens who kill without a single thought about their victims are removed from life.  They do not value life so why would we value their life. >

Vidkun Quisling sends his regards.