>

Trump isn’t president. He was voted out. So is the thought to justify Biden’s poor response to the balloon, by citing the poor responses of a 1 term president voted out? 
People are just too stupid to see they are being pinned against each other by republicans and democrats. Stop falling for these ridiculous distractions
Conservatives in today's Daily Mail comment section: "That was just China doing a trial run. They were waiting until a weaker president was in office to send a proper balloon all the way over the US." Utter, utter morons. So by their own logic, the "trial run" with Trump told them that America would do jack shit about spy balloons. Do they have even the slightest inkling of how stupid they are? >

The Daily Mail is such a joke. >

Unfortunately it's the most widely read conservative newspaper in the world. People need to understand that it's every bit as damaging as Fox News. >

There will always be a news ‘org’ for bigots. >

Republicans said nothing when it happened under Trump, but now they're pretending to be outraged. >

I don't think they noticed and I don't think they noticed when the same thing happened earlier during the Biden term.
They have access to classified intelligence briefings (at least the leaders do) so they have no excuse for not knowing how nonserious all five incidents were. >

It's still a serious incident but not because of anything Biden did.  It's serious because China violated our airspace. >

I mean, I guess, but I just can't bring myself to be scared of a balloon.  What is this?  1865?  It's not like there's a bomb in there.  Chinese tech is not a danger to anyone.
China sucks and all.  They put people in camps and torcher and kill them.  I'm just not scared of their "air force." >

Japan tried a trick with balloons on WWII. Didn't work, only a few people died (after stumbling upon them after the war sadly), but with 21st century tech it may be as feasible as any other disposable drone aircraft to bomb the US. Imagine 1,000 balloons at once with small guided bombs. Imagine the utility if during a war, China and the US darken the skies and shoot down all the satellites in orbit. >

You're kidding right?  a squadron of F-22s would love to shoot down 100,000 balloons.  It would be like a video game for them.  
They probably train for it.  They certainly made short work of the first one. >

I mean there is a reason those f-22’s waited till it was over the coast. 
Yes it is plausible to put things like gases or bombs in something like that in hops people shot it down for it to cause more damage…. Which is clearly what the military also came to that conclusion because they waited to shoot it down. 
Meanwhile I see so many people acting like they are military experts all the sudden. I’m not one I’m just thinking critically and everything adds up. 
If what you are saying adds up those f-22’s would have handled that balloon before it was a viral internet craze. >

Well they let the other ones just float by so it doesn't seem too dangerous. >

well ‘they’ was a different administration >

None got shot down probably because Ivanka needed those trademarks >

How many people have forgotten about those trademarks? >

not me. >

Nor I, nor have I forgotten Ivanka’s gmails, which, after alllll the bullshit around Hillary’s emails, Ivanka damn well knew what she was doing was probably illegal. And in light of the hundreds of stolen classified documents that her former boss stole and obstructed the return of, Ivanka’s emails should be seriously investigated. >

We didn't notice.  Trump flies so much we got used to seeing a hot air balloon up there..... >

China played to his ego. >

Imagine if they had even bigger balloons!! >

The yugest * motions with hands * you've ever seen! >

This is gonna be a hard flip-flop for MTG. I’m sure she’ll squirm her way through it while only being slightly racist. >


This is gonna be a hard flip-flop for MTG. I’m sure she’ll squirm her way through it while only being slightly racist.

Nah, it's easy.
It's been 2 hours and at least one of the crackpots I harass is simultaneously claiming that a) it didn't happen under trunp, and b) it totally happened andthat's how they gave us covid.
I mean, the same guy believes Biden is an android, but is also over 100 years old... >

Maybe we just need to stop trying to reason with these guys in a way that conforms to logic.
Next time just tell them to come to the dark side because we have time travelling androids, globally dominating secret organizations, and bioweapons that kill millions. They want to be on the winning side right?
Knowing that their only out is something like "but our side has Jesus" you could then say that christianity is just a Jewish psyop to contain the sheep, hence all the "good shepard" and "flock" language.
Fight conspiracy theories with bigger stronger conspiracy theories. >

Yes, because fighting an invasive species by bringing in a NEW invasive species has never ended poorly… >

Idk man, whenever someone tries to start the whole election was stolen nonsense, I counter with how that’s nothing compared to birds not being real, but rather government drones. I mean, why else would they continuously sit on power lines? 
Sad thing is, I literally have more circumstantial evidence to prove birds aren’t real than they have that the election was stolen. >

“Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration,” the statement noted. Associated Press also reported that one other balloon crossed into the U.S. earlier in the Biden administration. >

so basically if some random person doesn't glance at the sky and see a white blip this whole thing would be completely unknown? >

Also a lot of people in other threads were talking about how these likely weren't spy balloons, and were just weather related or whatever china said officially, because satellites would have a clear advantage and balloons are too blatant or something. But does this mean it's some established tactic for spying? >

*Tonight on FOX News*
President Biden SHOOTS DOWN harmless Chinese weather balloon, could this mean war? >

Democrats declare wars on balloons! >

Cucker Tarlson voice:
but what really are balloons? could this balloon have actually been a nuclear bomb? and if that's true then why did the Biden administration shoot it down over the united states? does this mean they want americans dead? it's quite a shocking thought I know >

Spot on! >

I wonder how much money DJT got paid by China to allow it. >

That doesn’t even make sense and you know it >

Not to have the US military ignore weather balloons. Yes, that doesn't make sense. >

One of the wide array of services purchased by China. >

Yeah, I could see it as a bonus. Odd ask but I get that point. >

The focus needs to be on the hypocrisy.  I don’t doubt the DOD when they said it was smarter to just ignore the balloon this time, and it tracks that they would say the same thing the last few times.  The different here is people saw it, so it couldn’t just be ignored, so they shot it down.  Maybe to save face, maybe because the math changes when everyone already knows it’s there and the benefit now outweighs the cost.  Who knows, but it’s all beside the point.  The GOP should be raked for hypocritically saying this makes the US look bad when they did the same thing in the same situation, and almost certainly would have done the same thing in this situation as well. >

Hannity was making a fool of himself Friday over it saying “unbelievable!” over and over, but he won’t care. He will not acknowledge the other three times. Dude is wrong all the time, these shows all are, and they will just move on. It will not matter to these idiot shows >

“And President Trump showed great restraint by not shooting them down, unlike warmonger Brandon trying to spark world war 3 with his balloon massacre!” >

Fox “news” has been parading angry republicans one after the other, who all want to go to war over the balloon. >

Republicans are already claiming this is a false story since no one saw the previous balloons and are claiming Biden is “weak” for not acting sooner.
Meanwhile, if he’d shot the balloon down in the Bering Sea, they’d argue he was unnecessarily provoking North Korea, Russia and China by firing a missile into international waters and should be removed from office. >

And had it been shot down over those obviously GOP states, then they'd be lambasted for endangering ~~their voters~~ the residents. >

China played to his ego.  Trump couldn’t stomach to shoot down a balloon that looked like himself >

Would’ve been delicious if the balloon looked like baby Trump like the one in London >

Now that Republicans know that Trump allowed three Chinese CCP balloons pass across the US during his tenure, they will now start railing on Biden for daring China and possible war by blowing up the CCP balloon. >

They're doing this exact thing. I'm following a thread on a forum and you can literally watch the MAGA morons first start with they need to shoot it out of the sky. And they did. Exact same people now bitching in that same thread that now we're going to war with China.
It's best to just not engage. >

After all, he and Chairman Xi have been good buddies. Nothing to complain about. >

The balloons were bigger and faster. Those were the best balloons under Tr@mp! >

Off topic because it makes the former guy look bad (too), and their talking points are null and void in 3...2...1... >

Won't matter because Republicans don't read HuffPo >

They read? >

Nah they don’t read. They have someone else read it to them and they form their own sentences in their head that aligns with what they believe. 
Narrator - “this article says Trump is a raging narcissist and can not be trusted!”
GOP listener - “Trump is awesome, super trustworthy and I should give him money for that wall!” >

Well that explains why china thought they could get away with it >

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump administration helped launch some of the spy balloons for China >

How many of them were shot down? You know because Drumpf was such a big strong guy >

It doesn't sound like any of them were! >

Was he ever briefed…. Oh right. Never mind. >

No, depends. >

Wasn't Trump also doing business with Chinese banks while he was president? Which would mean he was also compermised by China as well as Russia. >

The number of idiots claiming Biden was showing weakness and this would have never happened under trump….doesn’t matter because they will move the goal posts and say “for this long” or “this far over the middle of the country” or some other stupid qualifier. >

Trump was too busy golfing and kissing Xi's ass. >

Looking at foxnews comments, I see:

military screwed up
Intel community screwed up 
deep state trying to protect Biden
Biden admin spreading disinformation

No one held trump admin accountable… disgusting mental gymnastics >


None of those four incursions reportedly lasted as long as the trip by the suspected spy balloon that the U.S. military shot down Saturday.

Did people read this? Some important context I noticed from reading this article. This would have been funny if those balloons actually flew clear across the continent and over ICBM silos like Malmstrom AFB in fucking Montana. It’s hilarious how we care more which administration we get to dunk on. >

Trump was happy to oblige. He loves pleasing tyrants. >

Proving that once again the GQP will always attack their “opponents” despite being guilty of the same or worse >

Am I really the only one who thinks it’s entirely scummy that politicians are turning something that threatens homeland security into a divisive political game? Who gives a shit who let China fly spy balloons the most or the longest? It shouldn’t have been in our airspace period. It’s all fun and games until they have a payload on board and it’s dropping bombs on American soil. >

Do you think that American intlligence would not know exactly what these are, where they came from, who made them and what they had for breakfast? If they were a real threat they would have been dedtroyed as they left Chinese airspace. >

The people that need to hear this will not. They’ll just say they hate Trump so they made this up. >

Why didn't weak on China Trump shoot them down? >

The key part is being missed because everyone here apparently doesn’t read.
“None of those four incursions reportedly lasted as long as the trip by the suspected spy balloon that the U.S”
Aka this is the first time we know of that this happened this long.
“The official said Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration. “
Meaning trust it it happened 4 times before (there was another time under Biden it entered our air space) apparently this is the first to go this long and be noticed.  Why they allowed it to happen?  Idk the casualty bullshit doesn’t really match up.   I think they were tracking its signal or frequency etc to now know what the Chinese use to use it against them.  It’s also a nice distraction for the Biden admin with the papers incident but there’s likely something else going on… or it’s China doing it due to their literal economic collapse. >

Fuck China🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 >

Had we shot it down over mainland U.S., the R's would be screaming that we're endangering our citizens with debris or stray missiles.  Can't win with these clowns. >

I wonder if an unnamed senior defense official has ever lied before 🤔 >

Does it really matter what administration was in charge our airspace got violated >

🙄 why is it acceptable under any presidency, all this kindergarten back and forth crap will be our own internal ruin >

It's not acceptable under any presidency, hence why Biden shot it down and Trump just let it happen. >

What? Why didn’t anybody notice? I mean I saw it clearly in the sky and knew it wasnt normal >

Clouds. Night time. It was seen but not picked up by the news. But the military did notice which is fine by me. >

Article:

Suspected spy balloons from China crossed into the continental United States at least three times while Donald Trump was president, according to a statement Saturday by the Department of Defense citing an unnamed “senior defense official.”

This would have been everywhere on the news at the time. >

Is your contention that the statement from DoD is false? >

This is the source from the article: 

unnamed “senior defense official.”

With no proof, actual source, details, news of the story at the time of the balloon, pictures, I am skeptical.  It would have been all over the news, much more than the current chinese spy balloon story that Biden is plagued with.  Seems like a strange time for a breaking news story blaming Trump for all of chinese spy balloons ... years after Trump is no longer in office. >

Is there a source for this? In the time that he was in office, I do not recall this kind of news story breaking even once, and this balloon is pretty hard to miss. >

I know it’s nothing new, but I’m so sick of the lack of transparency with how our government communicates to its citizens. >

I have a feeling that
These balloons are everywhere and only picked out when it serves a political agenda >

100% this is just the establishment trying to saber rattle at China. The people in the comments going a long with it is the scariest shit I've seen all day. >

I find it mildly amusing 🥹 >

It's mildly amusing, until 20 years down the future you are bombarded with red-scare propaganda everyday and you march alongside the streets of Washington calling for the violent overthrow of China, the same way your countrymen had for Iraq, the same way they had for Korea and the same way they had at the start of the Vietnam war.
Propaganda used to stoke the population of a nation against another, all so that the gears of the military industrial complex can be well oiled isn't "amusing". >

Does nobody want to just think about this being a threat instead of internalizing the problem. Lets focus on the fact that we are constantly being spied on and literally do nothing about it and just argue about whatever fucking clown is in office or was. The problem is china and we should cut all trade >

Nah the trolls, complainers, and astroturfers just wanna duke it out >

Where is the dates, times and locations that the balloons traveled during the last presidency? How come nobody looked up in the sky and saw it and took pictures? Considering this would have happened before the world shut down. My thinking is this story is damage control. >

It was an unnamed source unless there is new information you have a link to. >

Ironically, a Biden official just said the balloons allegedly flown during Trump's administration were found out about after he left office.
Another debunked hoax from the left. >

Yes an unnamed source.  They are usually legit and not made up.   Yeah someone said this !!! It’s true !! He really said it.  Give me a break. >

Isn't it generally good, if you know you're being spied on, not to let on that you know? That way you can hide information and alter your behavior to mislead the watchers.
I don't mean to accuse the trump administration of knowing what it was doing at any point, but I do think the only difference this time may just be that too many regular people saw the thing, it became a news story, so they had to act overtly. >

The point is that republicans have been frothing at the mouth the last week saying Biden is a traitor for not blasting it to hell the second it entered our airspace. It’s the hypocrisy getting called out here. >

What did Trump administration do? Nothing? Because I don't remember reading about it in the news. So are the Chinese correct in saying that the Biden administration overreacted? >

Due to idiots with guns shooting at it I am glad Biden took it out.  I don't really care if they also had national security reasons to do it. >

It's sad that a discussion about a foreign security threat has just turned into another Democrat - Republican tribal mudslinging event.
Let's focus on the actual issue. Let's also not downplay the issue just because our tribe is in the White House. What happened was not a great - it was a clear violation of US sovereignty. We need to figure out how to respond in a way that is appropriate and figure out how to protect American airspace in the future. We need to get serious about Chinese espionage - in particular when it comes to things like Chinese spyware (and yes, that includes banning TikTok.) 
As far as the claim about this occurring during the Trump administration, this is obviously disturbing if true, but I'd want more sources for this and more information about what happened. A number of officials have come out and said that they did not hear anything about this happening during the Trump administration. And, of course, the public also did not notice, so I'm skeptical about whether this actually happened (as in, a Chinese spy balloon went over the continental US). >

The story isn't happened, it is that people are making a big deal about a relatively regular occurrence.
Like if there was week long about leap day or daylight savings and that biden should do something about it. >

I really feel it’s ineffective to immediately point fingers at your fellow Americans regardless of political affiliation. We should be looking, as Americans, where the true threats might be coming from. >

But only now makes it on the news right >

This is me talking on just a hunch, not knowledge, but why do I feel like this balloon stuff is an obvious distraction from something else? Why else would they dangle something that obvious over us in broad daylight? >

Trump couldn’t fart with out it being reported on every news source. All the sudden you believe this. It would not have been missed by a Media that loathed every step trump took. >

Don't be so insecure, my guy >

“What the media says we believe. They never lie.” >

Something happens embarrassing Biden.
Unnamed Source: "What about Trump!!!???!! >

I’m sure they did sarcasm. This is bullshit because if this actually happened, it would have been leaked way before and the media would have gone off and both the democrats and republicans would have destroyed him with this information. >

There are spy satellites orbiting the Earth right now that can read the text on documents and the license plate on a car. Does anyone truly believe that China still uses “spy” balloons at 60k feet? >

This is exactly true. Not to mention tiktok spies more on Americans than anything else. >

Way to shift attention >

These Democrats are desperate.
This happened in Trump's administration too, but the shill media didn't report about it? Yeah right. >

The statement was from the Pentagon. It was not from Democrats. Maybe the media did not know about because know one saw them. Regardless this a stupid uninteresting distraction and story. Oh no a balloon. Who gives a fuck. Media and Republicans need a shiny object to talk about. Sure do not want to talk about the economy that is on fire. Look over there. Lol. So many damn jobs there are not enough workers. >

According to the most recent news reports, this is a lie made by the Biden administration. >

Which news reports? 
It’s generally a good idea to show what your claiming. Otherwise it’s just as bad as this article citing an unnamed dept of defense employee with no dates involved in the claims. >

I’ve tried linking the various news articles but have been unsuccessful. Not sure what I’m doing wrong but a quick search on NPR, PBS, and other news outlets will show the article. >

“I promise I have a girlfriend. She goes to school in the next town and thats why you’ve never seen her” >

Lmao why are right wingers like this? Is this the effect of red state education defunding? >

It’s not lost on me that those balloons crossed into US waters briefly before moving away, and it’s not confirmed if those balloons were shot down. The ballon that was just shot down was the longest a Chinese balloon has ever flown over the US. 
The other day, this balloon was treated as a joke by this sub, now, you have found a way to give a shit by making Republicans - who were taking it seriously - out to be the bad guys. 
I’m convinced most of you would not have a political opinion if a Republican didn’t first voice one. >

If I’m not mistaken, weren’t these other balloons while he was in office, here for an extremely short period of time? Compared to the recent one? I’m not defending his presidency. But I’m sure Biden wouldn’t of shot this one down unless people saw it, like they did. >

Yes and they weren't near sensitive sites reportedly. Other surveillance balloons have been seen in the Pacific and near more sensitive areas in Hawaii. I don't think the reports of previous surveillance balloons can be as easily dismissed as some people think. Not everything gets media coverage. >

No I don’t think so either, but they may have jammed most of these or interfered with the previous ones instead of shooting them. Although, I recently read on NY times there’s been 300+ events of spying from foreign countries since 2020 or 2021. Although they won’t say which countries. With about half of those surveillance devices being balloons. The other half they say is advanced technology they haven’t seen before. When the public eye sees you have to do something, or it will make you look weak. And clearly Biden is not the weak, dumb, old man people make him out to be. He handled it extremely well, because we were able to recover it and embarrass China internationally. >

3rd world shit hole running out of 1st world problem to argue over. >

If it did then why wasnt it a big deal that there was a balloon flying around? Maybe because this is actually the first time it happened? >

I really hate how this is being used to further divide Americans. Everyone in this comment section is frothing rabid mad at the other half of the country
Even when we shoot one down China still wins. >

Face it. Trump sold our country's security out to our adversaries for laundered monies and favors. Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia have all had a monetary impact on Trump and his family while he was in office. He is a traitor and will continue his efforts while Merrick Garland sits there twiddling his thumbs. >

Fake news >

Fake news, The White House has no shame >

It’s specifically being brought up since Republicans were loudly proclaiming this would never have happened during Trump’s presidency. Turns out it did. 3 times. >

And thousands upon thousands of times on social media from the Vocal Minority >

And they didn’t do anything because of the scheme of surveillance not really a threat. They just shot this one down for show because people are stupid. >

Most likely fake, if this did happen we would've heard about it years ago instead of just now. Usual false information to try and defend Biden. >

How does it defend Biden? >

Hit them where it hurts Trade, impose fines for trespassing sovereign territory. Waging war espionage charges in international court make them pay. Best invest in manufacturing sector Pakistan and India. Pakistanis because they need it or they the unemployed will all become terrorists which will be headache for the whole world. It will not be good for India as the rogue nation Pakistan sponsors terrorist who are armed by Chinese asswipes. >

This is utter nonsense. >

I don’t believe it. This feels like a claim made to retaliate against the people complaining about how long it was allowed to float around. You can’t trust what the government tells you. >

So you believe the government of the guy with a history of lying when he thinks it will improve his image over the government of the guy who was upfront as possible about what was happening and what was being done about it?
Explain that. >

lol i don’t believe any of it. trusting the government at any time under any political party is the height of stupidity. >

You don’t believe there was a balloon? Yes… that sounds like a reasonable position… sure. >

Is there proof there was three balloons before?  Did you see three balloons during the trump administration? >

Only the many reports and confirmation from the DOD.
I’m sure that your “naw, man… everything is fake!” is much more convincing in some circles… just not with me, man. >

Sure buddy the DOD would never lie. Just like the weapons of mass destruction we just haven’t found them yet but they’re real. >

A great example of a Republican administration lying in order to get what it wants.
We have many, like Trump lying about his crowd size at the inauguration, Trump lying about the wall and who would pay for it and Trump lying about the previous ballon incursions ‘cause it made him look bad. >

And we didn’t see these balloons because?? >

People did see these balloons… that’s how they knew where they were and where they went. >

False >

It’s not >

Unnamed security official…that definitely sounds legit. /s >

Lol, always moving the goalposts. >

This guy still lives rent free in the head of so many. Been out of office for 2 years and nobody can stop talking about him. It’s hilarious. >

Hot air being sympathetic to hot air
What else is new >

One I just saw talked about was over Texas and Florida, guess those tweets about desantis “would’ve taken it down instantly” were what we thought they were, trash. >

Sigh... of course it did. >

Trump had to pay China for Ivanka's money deals >

It never left >

It was Obama's fault! >

And i believe China...... >

So much technological development and they used a balloon for spying. >

You mean the media that hated Trump never covered this? >

I find it hard to believe after all the hate for trump how this didn’t make it on the news during his time as president >

Trumps fans never shut up about him damn.... he ain't the potus anymore >

Prove it >

If the one shot down wasn’t discovered by the public, would it have been shot down too or hidden like the rest? >

Can someone explain...what exactly is the point of a spy balloon? 
What would they be spying on >

Obviously it was a stunt by China. We have balloons that can reach 160,000 feet. They wanted us to see it and test our reaction. >

Missed on Fox >

So the full drama was about the election. Showing Biden hard on China and Trump soft on china. K got it happy no war coming >

China's netizens are thinking of it as a big winning cause US spend more when shooting it off.
But don't consider all Chinese as patriotism robots as dissenting opinions can't be published >

It's so strange to read China's statements that:

It's just a weather balloon, 
Oopsie, we lost control of it, and
How DARE you defend your airspace. >

Consistency and hypocrisy are only concerns for those whom care about whether what they believe and tell others is true or not. That concern is not part of the GOP nor conservative mindset. >

"[Xi Jinping]'s for China, I’m for the US, but other than that we love each other." - Trump
“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!” - Trump
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” - Trump
"I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem. OK?" - Trump
“[Xi Jinping]’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday.” - Trump
“President Xi, who is a strong man, I call him ‘king’. He said, ‘But I am not king, I am president.’ I said, ‘No, you are president for life, and therefore you are king.’ He said, ‘Huh … huh.’ He liked that. I call him ‘king’. I get along with him great.” - Trump >

Discovered after the administration left office and not detected at the time of flight. So the question is now why did intelligence officials not advise the president of possible courses of action when the ballon was passing over the Aleutian Islands. Especially since Elmendorf AFB has squadrons of F-22 and F-35 fighters capable of responding prior to further incursion of US airspace?  Also who is going to resign or be fired for not proactively advising (dereliction of duty) national command authority of this incursion?
But on Sunday, a senior administration official said that "U.S. intelligence, not the Biden administration" assesses that "PRC government surveillance balloons transited the continental U.S. briefly at least three times during the prior administration and once that we know of at the beginning of this administration, but never for this duration of time."
The official also said that "this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left." 
"They went undetected," the official was quoted as saying. 
So yes it did happen. No it was not known at the time. It is also a larger pattern of intelligence gathering by the PLA. 
This is a problem. Intelligence and military officials not proactively advising national command authority is also a problem. They need to be fired for dereliction of duty. >

No one mentions the American balloons that are inevitably flying over China constantly. The concept of Mutual Assured Surveillance is as important as Mutual Assured Destruction.
If these were a threat in any way they would have been destroyed as soon as they left Chinese airspace. >

So great we all agree both parties suck let's vote someone else in please? >

Both corrupt both liars both terrible for Americans, immigrants and everyone in the world let's change the system it's up to us!! >

I’m surprised this can be posted on Reddit with all the Dems here. trump bad , who cares if Biden is a national security risk and sucks at his job. We were told to not like trump so we hate trump. Trump bad , Russia something, doesn’t pay taxes, trump bad -dems all the time >

GOP: “But those don’t count!” >

In his defense, reading the daily morning defense briefing is too hard. >

Not 1 senior official at the time has confirmed the story including Sec of Defense.  You will also not find 1 news story of it happening. Every single person who should have known denied any knowledge.
Either it was a military cover-up or it didn't happen. >

Balloons aren’t the only thing Trump allowed China to send over to the US >

Why are we letting spy balloons in our air space ? >

Yah know China maybe doing this for more of a reason to stir up the snow flakes. Looks like they are getting value for their money. >

fake. >

He denied it .. 🤷‍♀️ >

I think Ivanka has a patent on them. >

The best part was Trump Jr wanting everyone in Montana to take their guns outside and shoot at the sky. Not only could the guns not shoot that far, but wouldn't all those bullets eventually fall back to earth? >

With 80% of media leaning left, I find it hard to believe we didn’t know about this until now. Seems a little too convienent timing wise >

Sure >

"unnamed defense official' lol >

Another lie from the left. >

Let’s blame trump again card >

It’s specifically being brought up since Republicans were loudly proclaiming this would never have happened during Trump’s presidency. Turns out it did. 3 times. >

Show me proof >

The US Department of Defense >

If so then Biden would've known the minute he took the oath of office. For whatever reason the balloons have been treated as national security issue that we, the public, up to this point did not need to know. Well, now we know, but what does it mean?  Why would China send these  balloons over America, violating our airspace in order to gather intelligence a satellite could just as easily obtain??   I'm sure the Chinese have spies on the ground who could just as easily conduct covert surveillance of a military site better and less likely to be noticed than a big white balloon, in the clear blue sky,  the size of a Mack truck >

A shame after incurring $30T in debt over last fifty years that US lacks a defense system that would see and destroy foreign objects coming into US air space. >

WTH? Why does something like this always have go back to comparing to the previous president?
What WE ALL need to be concerned with is the safety of America! Period.
And the fact that Hunter Biden’s laptop had some of the classified documents on it. That’s why the guy at the repair shop made more than 1 copy of the laptop’s contents and set up contingencies with various people if he were to die regardless if it looked like an accident or not. Then his copy’s are to be released to multiple news outlets!
People need to wake up and realize that we are no longer in high school and quit having pissing contests about this president or that one! We all know why Biden has not stepped down as president due to his dementia. It’s Kamala Harris. Even people in his cabin ate have said this. And he or Jill, his wife were shrewd in naming her as his VP, this way they will be less likely to pull article 25 on Biden. That’s because though HARRIS appears to have all her faculties, she doesn’t have the excuse of dementia as Biden does. Nope she is just batshit crazy! Period… >

“And the fact…”
This is, in fact, not a fact. >

How do you know? 
He wasn’t at all worried about getting it back nor in suing the repair man until all of these classified documents started showing up in Biden’s own personal homes or where he had an office.
Aren’t all of you tired of this two way we vs them mentality. I know enough about dementia and Alzheimer’s as it is very much in my husband’s family. His daddy then brother died from this horrendous disease. Before this, all of my husbands 9 aunts and 1 uncle have died from it as well. So it’s not like we do not know the looks in the eyes a on the face of someone in the early to mid stages. My sister has a small amount of it but hers is from the final stages of end stage congestive heart failure. If you have ever looked into the eyes of a loved one in the early stages where they are confused but don’t grasp what is wrong, you will never forget that face. Then the knowledge of what is going on but wanting to hide it from the only family you have left. This is my sister when the fluid builds up, it brings her dementia out. >

Omg 3 whole times
Thank god merica was able to shoot the last one who knows what horror that ballon would have caused >

Ah yes, deflecting blame. Sounds about right for this sub >

What “blame” is there here? One administration seems to have done nothing and then complained that they would have acted decisively.
The other took action to observe, frustrate and ultimately shoot down the balloon.
You feel the latter deserves “blame”? >

"Cites an unnamed source"? The media hates President Trump so bad, why wasn't it news then? >


why wasn't it news then?

No one is going to answer that obvious question. >

When a guy in a few threads above asked for proof some other dude, possibly a lib replied to him with a link of an irrelevant article. >

So if these anonymous reports are legit, the woke military generals' version of events is that they have 100% allowed Red China spy balloons to traverse the US for years, not even bothering to inform political leadership, and only shot down this one because the public noticed? OK >

none of your claims are supported by the Pentagon statements >

What?  The Pentagon didn’t spoon feed a statement, so it’s impossible to think for oneself and draw conclusions. 
Per the headline, the anonymous source at the Pentagon says Chinese spy balloons crossed into US three times during Trump administration. 
As they approached, transmitted, or exited they US, they were not shot down. Pretty  much can conclude that means they were allowed to traverse the US. 
No mention by the “anonymous” source that anyone, politicians or press were notified. 
Pretty sure the anti Trump portion of the press would have excoriated Trump had there been public release of the information. 
As for Trump, he is a media attention seeking, psychopathic asshole, hard to believe he wouldn’t have jumped all over something like this to glorify himself.
Lastly, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schaffer’s, Chuck Schumer, are we to assume they were notified and thought, “Oh gee wiz, lets keep this quit and not embarrass Trump”.
Logic, and lord knows I make no claim to be a genius, would seem to indicate the original assertion is true, or, the “anonymous Pentagon source”, is lying. >

You know they always have to spin things to take heat off them and they want everyone to hate trump 
The balloons under trump didn’t fly over mainland US as we live in a time where everyone has phones and people are very curious so it would be easily spotted 
Those balloons likely flew over U.S. territories but not mainland us.. 
If you believe what you see on the news you’re a dumbass that can’t think for yourself >

We just gonna sit here and pretend like using balloons to spy isn't WW1 era spying..... this is fucking China and the U.S. we are talking about. Both countries have far easier ways to spy on each other than using a god damned, slow moving, massively visible balloon. 
I mean come on. >

I think it’s a test of our reactions. How much will we tolerate before firing back