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Any of you know what the Disney thing that Desantis is looking to change?
Small government  lol. >

"DeSantis' government takes control of Florida business to protect Florida from Communism."
Fox News headline writes itself. >

In other news Disney buys out Murdoch empire...
Follow Up Story, DeSantis is ruining Florida, more to come shortly. >

There is no war in Ba Sing Se >

Massively underrated take. >

Frankly, I don't care if Disney is self-governing or not.  But the fact they want to do it simply because Disney is not politically aligned on social issues show just how fascist Florida is becoming. >

Why is Disney not taking this first amendment issue to court? They are clearly being penalized by FL government for speech >

Because court orders mean nothing to Desantis. He just ignores them with impunity. >

I suspect the way this is going to play out is that DeSantis is still in the Fuck Around stage of this mistake.  If he keeps pushing, he's going to reach the "Find Out" part of the show. 
Disney's worth more than 6 times Florida's total annual budget. >

I hope they uproot and leave the state. >

The only reason DeSantis thinks he can get away with this is that that would be close to impossible. They'd be starting over elsewhere, and the odds of getting the amount of space they have there anywhere else nice enough to have a year round park is pretty low. Unless they moved to Mexico.
But turning over all of the debts they owe to the state will be a pretty big deal all on its own. >


The only reason DeSantis thinks he can get away with this is that that would be close to impossible. They'd be starting over elsewhere, and the odds of getting the amount of space they have there anywhere else nice enough to have a year round park is pretty low. Unless they moved to Mexico.

Texas could work. It’s got the space.
And Texas’s #1 industry is stealing jobs from others states anyway.

But turning over all of the debts they owe to the state will be a pretty big deal all on its own.

Can you explain this? This is interesting. >

The money is owed to the bond holders, not Disney. >

"when Florida created the Reedy Creek Improvement District decades ago, the state pledged to protect the district's debt holders — and not to alter its status unless all debts are paid off."
Either paid to the holders or paid to Disney so it can pay the bond holers. The debt is not Disney's with this new development >

Not sure why you bolded that part.
The debt isn’t Disney’s now either. >

As part of the bill no one with any recent theme park experience (on any level that I can tell) is allowed on the District Board. Because we wouldn't want anyone that knows what they're doing in charge. >


Because we wouldn't want anyone that knows what they're doing in charge.

same as their position on education and health issues >

We don’t want know experts round these parts >

It's like he stole trump's playbook >


The law would bar anyone who has worked for Disney or other theme park operators within the past three years, and their relatives, from serving on the board.

So even if you bought a home in this district and you work for Disney you can't have any say in how it's run? So actually even worse then an HOA. >

I dont think its surprising at this point. DeSantis wants to rule as an authoritarian. For some insane reason republicans adore that idea and will fall happily into line. The party of “freedom” ladies and gentlemen. >

"Freedom" to do what the fuck they tell us to do. Freedom in their minds is anything they like and everything else is trying to destroy them. Typical victim mentality. >

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Pontius Pilate, 3414 A.D. >

Wait a second, that quote is about fascists, not conse- oh, I see what you did there. >

So basically, no company should ever move to Florida because they might find themselves on the wrong side of our ~~dictator~~ governor.  
Honestly I think we should just let Florida destroy itself and then rebuild whatever's left. >

A few hurricane seasons without federal disaster aid money would about sort out the destruction part. >

Rising sea levels will finish what's left. >

Not being able to truck in more sand to constantly replenish the beaches will hasten the whole process. >

Climate change isn't real. But Like, did anyone order the sand? The beaches keep sinking for some reason. >

You're being sarcastic, right? I assume you're being ironic. >

Yes and also yes.
Should I add the /s? >

Correct me if I’m wrong, but now Florida tax payers will have to pay to maintain roads and infrastructure and other things of that nature that a private corporation was previously paying for? Isn’t a corporation paying for its own infrastructure the conservative dream? >

And take on a billion dollars in debt. >

if corporations are people, and this is direct retaliation for disney criticizing desantis, how is it not a first amendment violation? 
its almost like rules only apply when it benefits them and they dont really believe in anything >

Because the fascists took over SCOTUS first… >

If there’s one thing that DeSantis loves more than performative virtue signaling it’s wasting taxpayer dollars on frivolous lawsuits all in the pursuit of the 2024 nomination. >

I thought it was dressing in drag and telling himself that people love him in front of a mirror. >


The Reedy Creek district handles 911 calls, fire protection[...]

Out of Eeerything in your excerpt, this stands out to me a bit. Assumung this goes through, is there any reason an unscrupulous individual in charge wouldn't...delay...fire service to the park if a fire were to...spontaneously...break out? 
It just seems like the kind of heavy-handed tactic thugs like DeSantis might utilize. >

I assume that's precisely what they want to be able to do. Have such power over the district that Disney must concede to their fascist demands or else watch the district burn. >

sMaLl gOvErNmEnT! >

Gee, I wonder if any other state could possibly have any interest in something like Disney World? >

Biggest problems there are both that moving it would be a hellaciously expensive prospect and that every other state aside from California and Hawaii that has a climate that would allow them to be open all year are red states that are following in the Florida's footsteps. >

It would never happen in Hawaii! >

Yeah, obviously they don't want to remove the possibility of road tripping to Disney World.   That is why Hawaii is unlikely, and the existence of Disney Land makes California unlikely.
The only reason I pointed them out specifically is because every other state warm enough to be open all year long is a red state. >

It would never happen in Hawaii for several reasons. The first reason is the cost of the land and also the lack of available land. Second, the environmental regulations in Hawaii are much stricter than Florida. Also, yes, it’s 3000 miles from any mainland. Also, almost everything besides local produce has to be imported to Hawaii and this would create exorbitant costs for Disney to try and operate a huge theme park. I’m sure there is more that I’m not thinking of. And yeah, California Disney doesn’t have anymore room to spread out, so that’s not happening. >

Someone let the 2A/Gadsden flag people know that this is the tyrant they’ve been hoarding their guns their whole lives for. >

but he's their tyrant, so that's makes it ok >

Gonna make it as shitty as the rest of Florida. >

So funny story about this. When the hurricane came through, work sent me to Disney as my evacuation site, since Disney’s hotels are sturdier than most any other building in central Florida. My fiancée works as a nurse and had to still go to work, so I had to drive her from the hotel. 
The second you left Disney property, it was like entering another country. Downed trees, flooded roads, broken windows. Within 12 hours of the winds calming down, there wasn’t even debris left by the hotel. >

This is actually great for democrats. Just sit back and enjoy the show. >

Problem is dems are idiots and won't realize that they can run on "Republicans are trying to take over your business." >

Florida Dems are a disappointing bunch.
A huge number of people moved from Puerto Rico to Florida after the hurricane. Trump and the GOP basically shit on them. The Dems in Florida should have been able to leverage that, but they didn't. >

The Florida Dems found a wet roll of paper towels to run against DeSantis. They literally gave up on beating DeSantis, let him win this election, figuring either he’s running for President anyway. >

Big government conservatives at work. >

Disney will be around a lot longer than DeSantis. >

It’s amazing how dumb this is.  Have fun footing that bill, Ronald.  What an idiot.   Disney no longer has to handle the cost of running a municipality.  I’m not sure they care.  But if they do, they have a really strong legal argument. >


I’m not sure they care

I'm sure they do care.  Reedy Creek continued to exist because it was a net-benefit to Disney, otherwise they'd have looked to shed the arrangement on their own.
Maybe the most obvious... Disney, via the Reedy Creek organization, enjoyed the benefits of control over planning and land use decisions (which I assume also includes building construction), which will now have to run through an entity they don't control.
Not to say this whole fiasco is a real threat to Disney, but they might just have more local headaches to deal with. >


which will now have to run through an entity they don't control.

And is actively hostile towards them. >

This is incredibly stupid, there is literally no upside on this for the state. Now the district has to take care of all services which probably adds cost considering the inefficiencies of government. In addition cutting services could lead to interruption at the park, meaning pissed off customers and loss of revenue (less tax revenue). Worst case scenario ( though rather unlikely) Disney packs up and moves somewhere else. >

Will municipal infrastructure and utility services be able to keep up with Disney World demands? >

Not according to GOP small government philosophy >

It’s painful how fucking stupid these GQPers and how they are detached from reality >

This country is ruled by big business… De Santis is about to find out what happens when he bites the corporate overlords hand that feeds him >

DeSantis fucking with DiMouse, smart move... lol... >

Not even Gru tried to steal Disney World >

Real life Republican fascists are 100 times worse than any cartoon villain. >

What a Goofy idea. >

Damn it that got me to smile >

Uh oh taking over control of Disney 
Sounds like with someone that is leaning into communism pretty hard 
Putin tactics!  Whoa … and Republicans will eat it up. >

I never thought I'd side with Disney of all things. >

Disney can be a horrible company, but in this case their enormous corporate power conglomerate is more than welcome. Crush this fascist motherfucker. >

As a fiscal conservative and someone who is a supporter of privatization wherever we can, I'd think that people with right-of-center economic views like DeSantis would embrace the Disney situation and support what they've done in Reedy Creek. It is literally the posterchild of a successful privatization of public services and infrastructure. Someone like DeSantis should be advertising Disney's stewardship of it as a model for the nation, not attacking it and trying to overturn it. >

DeSatin is the American Hitler/Stalin take your pick >

I don't particularly care about Disney, but if they just said "Fuck Florida" and moved somewhere else, I might actually not pirate all the Marvel movies. >

This guy has skin thinner than rice paper.
I wish the worst on you, Ron. I truly fucking do. You go out of our way to say all the Nazi shit in this state is free speech but the second someone disagrees with you.
Small government my balls. Personally putting people in place on every level. Fuck yourself. >

Would be cool to see a corporation fight one conservative as hard as they do against progressives being elected. >

Ah yes, small government is when the literal governor tries to bully a huge company out of existence because he doesnt personally like some of their viewpoints. Very free speech and very small government >

He’s going to wrestle the mouse. He’s fucked. >

I really wonder how all of this is legal. Punishing a private business because they disagree with you? 
These conservative politicians are doing so much that is anti American that it boggles my mind.
If DeSantis were to become president in 2024 there won't be an America left after 4 years. We'll still be here, but it'll be a different place.
Why does everything in politics have to be so disappointing. >

Imagine building all the infrastructure, providing security,  maintenance, etc. as a private company only to have a Governor step in and claim ownership. He's trying to get out of paying Disney for any of it. This is ridiculous. >

Communist  shed a tear  of joy as an America  state  acts more Communist then Russia. >

Just a reminder, there is one group in particular that usually has the kind of independent structures Disney had. Universities. DeSantis is going for the king first, but attacking schools and their students is the ultimate goal. >

Wait until the people of Florida get the bill from Disney for the amount that is owed to them once this happens. >

Good! Do it!
Dark Brandon is great and all, but I think it is time to unleash the power of Disney against this guy. 
Come on Disney. Save the world for us. Bring this guy down before he gets any closer to the presidency. >

The Republican Party is the Party of Small Government and only wants to intrude on your business if they politically disagree with you. Oh and they want to know any medical history if you’re trans, even as an adult. Oh and you can’t transition as a kid even with parental consent. And ladies when was your last period? We need to see your menstrual data if you want to play sports. And oh you need to have all books and course materials checked to make sure they are GOP approved for your school library or class room. And you can’t talk about your personal life or spouse if your LGBTQ, straights only in the Red States. Oh and no drag shows. And we can’t allow abortions or travel for one…even if you might die and that pregnancy was planned. And no CRT,no African American History. 
Other than that the GOP will stay out of your business…well they have been talking about banning gay sex, same sex marriage, and birth control again. >

Because nothing says small government like the state taking over businesses. >

Disney has made its money in Florida.  They should mothball and Cosmoline the place and lock the gates… until the next governor is elected 
In other words call his bluff and see how much tax revenue he is willing to give up. >

Now there's an idea 💡 >

small government in action. >

Disney could just release a video featuring every IP in their collection to label DeSantis as a nazi, air it on Disney Plus and every network they own and he'd be fucked. >

The reason behind doing this is why he's a terrible candidate. Let's see what other groups he can alienate before they run him in the big race. He's set to have a poor showing as it is. It's like he's going for a record. >

I'm curious if the strategic move for Disney is to back him (or at least, not interfere) to get him out of Florida. >

You don’t play with fire unless you want to get burned. >

I really look forward to the eff around and find out approach of DeSantis vs the house of mouse. >

Never been to Florida.  Definitely not going now. >

DeSantis is going to be in for a rude awakening when Disney just says nope and does whatever it wants.
That, or I imagine a new cartoon with an overweight governor dancing in drag coming out. >

I hate the concept of lobbyists, but I would think this is a good time for Disney to unleash it's army of lobbyists. Maybe some corporate democrats in Florida need some campaign financing...sure would be weird for a democratic gubernatorial opponent suddenly had a couple hundred million in dark money... >

Oh man. Taking bets on the first thing they try to ban. Aladdin for theft and FAA violations? >

I wonder who is gonna pay the 1billion to the bond holders? >

Disney should move out of Florida. Why put up with this BS? >

How has the Fed not checked DeSantis. He sounds like he has greatly overreached his power of governor. >

This guy is like Cornelius Fudge appointing Dolores Umbridge to do his bidding and forcing his ideology cause he’s afraid. >

Authoritative control is his only method to govern
He'll do the same to the country if given a chance >

We’ve already seen this song and dance:

Desantis proposes extreme bill that targets out-group
Disney expresses displeasure at bill
Desantis facemelts about WoKe DiSnEy and threatens to take away Disney privileges
Disney points out that the state would bankrupt itself trying to pay for the upkeep of the property 
Desantis eventually walks back the bill or it dies in parliament, having served its actual purpose of stirring up the base
repeat as needed >

Wash, rinse, repeat! >

Trump was awful but the prospect of a DeSantis presidency is terrifying. >

This is how DeSantis gets his way not just in Florida but nationally. We're seeing a lot of this lately. He can bully institutions into changing their ways and thus implement his agenda not just in Florida but all over the country. He did it with the AP African American Studies course, and if this goes through Disney will have to change how it speaks out or even the media it makes just to keep DeSantis happy. And let's face it, Disney will put up with it to not lose its revenue and investments in Disney World. 
DeSantis is showing how actually weak and spineless these huge companies are, and I can see why some people might like him for that, even if he's hateful too. Often we think of the companies as in charge of politicians and always getting their way, but DeSantis shows that if you just threaten their bottom line at all they'll give in. I kind of hope other Dem governors take note of this for more benevolent ends, though I know they'd never try it. >

Disney absolutely does not have to go along. They have a lot of tools in their bag - the biggest being taking an actual stance in their media. They have much more ability to long term sway the electorate than actual politicians could ever hope for, and could absolutely bury a political party if they choose to do so.
That they haven't is simply saying that the status quo is more profitable. But once it's not, boy howdy. >

Taking on Disney's debt probably convinces them to go along with it quietly. >

$1b in debt is a big number, for sure, but not all that huge to Disney.  They made $3.1b in profit last year.  They have the resources to retire the debt any time they like, but the terms probably make it more attractive to re-allocate that money vs pay down their debt.  
Losing control of Reedy Creek is likely more than a $1b decision.  Will be very interested to see how this shakes out with Iger back at the helm. >

Someone on here floated the idea that this was Disney's idea as this now passes much of the land cost to taxpayers of Orlando from Disney. >

Except that if Disney didn't want the district anymore, they could have dissolved it themselves. >

So, it's still a special district but now he gets to appoint the leaders of it instead of the stakeholders. Sounds like a cushy job to give away to buddies, not sure how much they'll be able to influence the daily happenings at Disney. >

It gives DeSantis means to blackmail Disney. >

Doesn’t look like the bill would do much but make an
Additional administrative hurdle for Disney.   
Guess this is how DeSantis wants to be hawkish to his enemies; make governing harder for them >

Oh this will go well./s >

But Ron!
What do you want with Mickey Mouse? >

Well Ron and Florida are a bit Mickey Mouse, so maybe it fits? >

Fascist Florida >

Corporations need to watch closely. This sets a precedent that businesses will be punished for stepping out of line. This is pure fascism. >

I see a state income tax in your future… >

The following rides have been closed due to wokeness:
All of them
Please just empty your wallet, hold your phone over the sensor for electronic transactions, return to your car, and leave. 
$5 will be left in your account to cover the parking lot exit fee.
End of line. >

I know it’s a long shot but I hope acquiring the 1 billion dollar debt from Disney will be the reason for DeSantis’ downfall >

The best thing that could happen is Disney closes and moves elsewhere. >

Yep the Republican Party….. the party of small government.. >

Nathan Explosion did less damage to Florida in his tenure. >

Nascent fascism. >

I'll be interested in seeing if this actually passes. Politicians love going through the motions of taking a stand through moves they know won't actually happen. Like the "moderates" Murkowski and Collins. They only "rebel" when their vote doesn't count for anything material.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that this is definitely not going to pass. And it is still poisonous either way it goes. >

Disney is not a company I care for much when it comes to business practices, but what a petty way to run a state Govt. >

Making an enemy out of Disney is not something I would ever do. DeSantis is proving how stupid he is on the daily. >

For the party of small government they sure do like their big authoritarian government >

Enjoy taking on all of that district's $1 billion debt that would have been Disney's responsibility. Dumbass. >

I hope this shitshow crashes and burns for all the country to see. >

Florida has more to lose here. I hope Disney shuts down Florida operations and move. They can definitely afford to move. While they do that, all they gotta do is say: We are leaving Florida because they are restricting freedom of how to run a business, anti-inclusion and we are looking for a more business friendly inclusive state. >

Same guy who wants young female athletes disclosing their menstrual cycles. Absolutely unhinged and the Floridian voters want more. Truly unreal. >

Hey Uh , as a Floridian I know this Is all ha ha to others in the country but, if you were up in arms about trump, this guy is 1000x worse and the R party will rally around him eventually. 
And since he’s not as cartoonish as Trump he’ll have the entire half of the voting block behind him. The Supreme Court is already broken. R’s have the house. You all should be pretty worried. >

Disney is having issues with profits.  So now the state can pick up their tab there. 
So smart...  taps head... >

Disney is doing just fine lol >

A district once called Reedy Creek
With Disney at the helm and in its peak
But now the governor, Ron DeSantis with might
Wants to rename it, bring in a new sight
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight in name
With five board members, he’ll put to claim
No longer controlled by Disney, it's clear
The governor will choose, give reason to cheer
A clash between the two, it’s no surprise
After Disney opposed a bill, to the governor's eyes
The "don’t say gay" law, caused quite a fuss
DeSantis wanted retaliation, no need to discuss
The Reedy Creek district, now a distant past
With a new name and future, it's been recast
The Walt Disney World Resort, still stands tall
But the district's future, the governor will call
So let the governor, appoint with care
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight, a district fair
A new direction, with much to be seen
For the district, a future bright and keen. >

How bout they come right on up here to GA?  The movie industry is flourishing here.  We have THE international airport in America. And the weather is pretty easy.  I’d love to see it.  Also…DeSantis sucks. >

Do you mean the same Georgia that almost put Herschel Walker in the Senate? >

Yeah…but we didn’t THANK GOD.   Living here, I just think our state is MORE welcome to business than Fl appears to be moving under DeSantis.  Also, I’m only as serious in saying it as my knee jerk thought and reaction on Reddit allowed me. Feels like FL is dangerously moving in a direction that will not only alienate and hurt large groups of people, but also really affect their ability to attract and keep businesses there. >

If I had to pick one, I guess Georgia is slightly better. >

I would love to see both Disney and Florida waste millions working this out in court. >

Now that the Tea Party has their drty dick fingers controlling the republican party there will be zilch about government overreach and the Koch money will most likely back DeSantos in 2024. PuperMasters be puppeting. >

Now that the Tea Party has their drty dick fingers controlling the republican party there will be zilch about government overreach and the Koch money will most likely back DeSantos in 2024. PuperMasters be puppeting. >

I was just thinking about how Disney will react when Florida inevitably mismanages the district (It's not just that it's Florida, it's the dumbest part of Florida -- the GOP) and all of a sudden they're sitting on crappy failing infrastructure. >

Remember being 13 and testing the limitations of your parents' oversight? Move an inch and see if they notice?
Desantis lives for that feeling. >

Disnet, needs to pull the fuck out of florida >

I'm curious as to what Disney is going to do. Are they planning on fighting this? Do they have any interest in fighting this? >

I would hazard that if you want to be president you don't make an enemy of The Mouse.
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If Disney decides that DeSantis is hostile to them, how easy would it be for them to get compelling candidates and media exposure to roll his ass out of office? >

This should end well…. >

Oh shit he's fucking with the mouse?  Icarus meet Sun. >

r/WhatCouldGoWrong >

Damn, the party of small government sure is fucking with the mouse >

DeMoron is going to find out who the biggest mouse is… >

How Far will DeSantis be able to go before his stopped in his increasingly Authoritarian, hate driven crusade against LGBTQ people?
At what point do we say no ?
Deportations?
Final solution?
Imagine if this would be dictator became President, we all should be very scared. >

Takes a clown to run a circus I guess….. >

If this were a Democrat I can only imagine the Fox Headlines lol. Democrats want to take away the most magical place on earth away type shit >

Idk how any of this is legal hahaha, it’s like the legislative version of printing money >

Omg. The republicans just Nationalized (Statealized? ) Disney. Lmao