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Oh boy. I hope this was meant to be funny. It might be the most ignorant thing I’ve encountered all day.
I see this headline every six months.  This is how encroached industries act when their primary product is found to literally be poisonous.
Big tobacco denied the link to cancer for decades, despite them knowing the damage.  Before that, the lead industry kept leaded gasoline in our cars.  There were Congressional hearings in the 1920's on the matter, but we did nothing.  
Big asbestos did the same thing under the same circumstances starting in the early 20th century.  And if we wanna go back to the 19th century, big mercury, which absolutely was a thing, acted in the same way when we tried to keep mercury out of our food as an admittedly effective preservative. 
They follow the same playbook every time.  You'd think we'd be able to counter them by now.
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This American Experience documentary on the literal poisons that used to be in our foods, and the fight against the industries putting them there, comes highly recommended.  You may need a VPN to view if you're out of the US. >

It's hard to solve a problem when rich and powerful people have a deeply vested interest in not solving it. >

...or obstructing the solution. >

This. Most powerful politicians have family connections and the people that profit from the environmental pollution are their friends & college buddies. >

Iirc the Eisenhower Administration did a military study regarding the effects of Climate change so everyone knew. >

Note there was an article published in 1912 commonly titled Coal Consumption Affecting Climate.  We've known about this for more than a century, and at least in the US where I am, have done basically nothing.
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link to snippet from 1912 article >

“The affect may be considerable in a few centuries.” >

I worked at XOM for a long time, was an executive, and internally we always accepted it. We had full on company-wide presentations with Sherri Steuwer (the exec in charge of climate at least for a time) where she acknowledged it, shows us all the science, showed what had to be done, etc etc etc.  Meanwhile we were funding almost exclusively climate deniers in Congress.  For a period our head of lobbying was a totally normal woman who since left for a similar job at an airline.  It was a weird cognitive dissonance I could never understand. >

Allow us to clear up the confusion:  $$$$$$$$$ >

this has been public knowledge for a long time. >

We do live in a perfect world, as in we were created for this planet, we evolved and adapted around this environment, then we changed it and did so in a manner that is unstoppable, and rather than try and prevent making it worse we're still actively pushing on the gas. Shit is getting bad out there and its getting worse every day. 
I don't think we'll make it to another planet, we're not making enough progress, we may be the generation that is the peak of civilization. >

Ya, exactly. Something a lot of people don't think about - gravity. Sure, maybe you can replace an entire atmosphere (good luck doing that). But also good luck finding a planet that feels exactly the same as Earth's gravity. Think motion sickness on a species level. This Earth is an extension of our bodies. And I don't think O'neill cylinders are the solution. Personally I'd go insane being stuck inside a floating machine in space without an actual planet under my feet. >

But the money machine must go brrrrr!
Exxon and other big oil producers are the next generation of cigarette/Big Tobacco companies. They knew the dangers of their products for generations but continued business as usual and would have never stopped because of the almighty dollar.
The sickening thing, unlike Big Tobacco, is is primarily harming the consumer and limited others (second hand smoke, healthcare costs) Big Oil is wiping out biodiversity and limiting viable habitation for huge percentages of the world. 
It's saddening that, had they not actively fought back against the assumptions their own scientists were aware of and tried to contribute to change from the 70s onward, we could have successfully implemented something to reduce and avoid most of the worst effects. They should be taxed/fined out of existence and the proceeds utilized for alternative fuels and habitat rehabilitation. >

Sounds like the boards for these companies need to whipped out and they should be turned into non-profits. Where every bit of money they make is put into climate research. >

Plot twist - The US nationalizes oil and gets coup'ed by the CIA. >

That already happened in 1999. An environmentalist ran for president. The son of the former head of the CIA and former president was himself elected president under some shady fucking circumstances and despite losing the popular vote by a wide margin. His name is George and he is still a completely useless goddamn moron. Only now he spends his days in Texas painting instead of invading countries for absolutely fabricated bullshit reasons in order to seize oil fields to funnel profits to his oil oligarch buddies. But that's reality for you; the plot is written by the laziest of assholes. >

Actual humans did this. Call them out by name. Not some incorporeal corporate logo. >

Yes, yes, yes. >

I wonder if we'll ever get to a point where these companies are prosecuted for literal crimes against humanity. >

Cool. Now sue them >

Arrest them and send them to the Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity >

Hold them responsible for solutions and clean up...not just fines...direct their profits and costs...piss off their share holders and then you'll see change >

The scientists who did the studies should hang their heads in shame for allowing the lies to go unchallenged. >

The price of denialism is the future >

can you explain what this means >

I'm not the person that you replied to, but they are saying that the consequences of denying and obfuscating the science about climate change (and other things) is that we are sacrificing the future of the planet.
Misinformation and disinformation are very valuable to the companies that benefit from generating doubt and delaying legislation to fix these problems... but the whole world will suffer the consequences of the delays. >

Or in other words:
Big lies make humanity's future go bye bye >

Plenty of old reports came to the same conclusion already. >

Sounds like we should Nationalize them. >

Except that the politicians we keep electing are the same people as the corporate leadership. Former Exxon CEO was literally Secretary of State for the last president. 
Putting control of these industries in the government's hands only works if the government its self isn't just as corrupt as the corporations are. >

New report finds? This news broke like 10 years ago. >

And needs to be held accountable >

That's been public knowledge for a long time. That they used the playbook pioneered by the tobacco industry to publicly deny and obfuscate what they privately knew to be true all along. That deception extended by decades the period of unchallenged fossil fuel expansion and profits. >

New report?
I thought it was publicly and formally well known the energy sector intentionally played down global warming? >

This has been known since the 90's >

Hasn't this been well known for like, nearly a decade at this point? >

Are we surprised? Profit>sustaining humanity. Get on board already. >

Boomers make planet go boom! We need new leadership. Period. Our old generational post ww2 folks have been to selfish. Got everything and kept it all while burning the planet and the rest of us. >

Can we just sanction these people and their families like we do the Russian oligarchs and take all their wealth. >

And this knowledge has been available for at least 20 years >

Crimes against humanity >

All these companies knew and should all have to split the bill for the lies. >

I would say these ass hats need to be held accountable but we all know nothing will happen to them. >

Craziest part to me is this isn't news. We known this since the 70s. And now all the political groups who ignored (and paid to keep quiet scientific research) are now acting like they are part of the solution w weak policies. I will not forget. >

This is not news, I’ve known this about Exxon and other oil corporations since the early 00s. We even covered it in some classes in undergrad. >

There are some amazing individual Humans, but taken as a whole, Humanity is a dumpster fire. We deserve everything coming our way. >

I'd argue that my 2 year old daughter doesn't deserve any of it. >

Then why did you bring her here? >

We have know this was coming since the late nineteenth century! Scientists were talking about the effects of industrial pollutants affecting climate since the 1880s! 
This is how idiotic we truly are. >

I feel like we kinda knew this already though..? >

They will be in the same boat as big tobacco. >

The more they tried to deny it, the more accurate the prediction became... >

So...they should be ended as a company, right? This action amounts to willful harm of some sort. >

I'd love to see some Hague like trials of old oil executives who end up getting guillotined live on air, but the best I"ll probably get is being murdered by a Dasani black ops team during the water wars of 2035. >

I don't know how stupid this is but I have a tendency to account for lies, denial and randomness in determining the path of society. >

I feel like maybe they should be, you know, held responsible somehow. >

An actual conspiracy, but I guess not flashy enough for the "free-thinkers" >

Least surprising headline ever. >

Ya don’t say 🙄 >

Would be interesting to see the twitter files on this >

Yes, everyone knew, everyone knows.
Let's stop trying to establish that fact and use it as a given.
Now let's use a given fact as a platform for change.  We're already 20 years behind schedule... >

This is not new information? >

This is hardly news. PBS and Frontline had a 4 part series spelling out every bit of this information back in October. Did the media just NOW watch it? >

Once we’ve switch the majority of vehicles to electric, easy way to get rid of big oil. Prosecute the companies that buried the study results and wipe them out. >

of course they did. is anyone really surprised? really? >

Greed not only causes other people to stumble it causes planets to burn. Then they're gonna say "we need a new planet this one is running out of stuff to burn!"
Uh solar has beem around over 50 years and they thwarted the expansion on purpose. >

One of my college professors was a former Exxon geologist, who worked at Prudhoe Bay, AK. He said they knew all about what the fossil fuel industry was doing to the environment. 
He taught a planetary climate history class, and it was pretty interesting. He also brought in some of his crude oil samples (stinky stuff) and some mammoth teeth discovered while exploring new areas to drill. >

‘Cast doubt’ is a nice way of saying ‘lie and profit from blood money’ >

For profit.
Duh. >

Pish! So you're claiming the polluters KNEW they were the problem and lied about it? I don't think so, buddy.
Next you'll be spinning some crazy story about how they paid politicians off to deny it or something. I call BS! >

Should be a damn crime. Like saying there is no fire when you know damn well the building is burning. >

shocking. not >

What's the definition and threshold for "Crimes Against Humanity"?
Because it sounds fairly reasonable for sht like this >

For companies like this? About 3.50 (tax deductible though) >

This is as evil as evil gets in our modern world. Imagine the people who would make this decision, knowing it impacted the WORLD. 
Simply for a better bonus that year >

Self regulation works though, riiiiight? >

Hold your gasps please ladies and gentlemen >

Yeah, but their hardcore climate change denier customers will still consider it to be some kind of liberal plot.  They just really like the sound of revving engines. >

Not exactly new findings, PBS Frontline has a great documentary about this exact topic. >

Found someone on exxons payroll. >

For someone who's always studied weather, you don't seem to actually know much about it. Like the difference between "weather" and "climate", for example. >

Did the dinosaurs drive cars too? Co2 right now is 425 ppm ... dinosaur days 5000+ ppm.