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Fuck these people.
Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it. >

Cure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals! >

If we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!? >

“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!” >

It's you're fault for not being born privileged! >

Cancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness >

PPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).
All the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/   display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.
But I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over >

Fun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. 
Who fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway. >

Who the fuck we drop a dime to though? >

Shame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.
For what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID. >

"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't" is a strange hill to die on. >

Especially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt.  College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare. >

That's why they said "just like we didn't" >

Ah.  I misread the "didn't" as "did". >

No worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly! >

No problem at all.  Thanks for pointing it out. >

We can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP >

That part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild >

Maybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs.  Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation.  The whole system is feeding back on itself. >

The original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake. >

Part of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says "fuck it" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.
Who wants to be the asshole who tells Americans "OK, time to start paying your loans again!" after 9 years? >

This is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss.  Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy. >

Isn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately >

Nah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt. >

If the issue that's holding this up is that it's "selective", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end?   That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go. >

The issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged. >

hey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly. >

this keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season >

Christ, what assholes. >

We’re surrounded by assholes. >

The problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. >

I don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. 
They’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up. >

They were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting >

Damn it. It went over my head. >

It went over my helmet. FTFY >

…more to the side… >

Asshole covers balls... >

Christ. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls. >

That’s exactly how I feel >

If it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it. >

Especially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔 >

And they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners. >

Make people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.
MTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest. >

They always want people to be just as miserable as they are. >

That’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes. >

Because it’s never ever enough. >

Nope their only hope is for death. Seriously. >

God, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting. >

The Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole >

I wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a "no" is the SC decision.
Edit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone >

The Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.
Precedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.
Expecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish. >

I think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives. >


would only take money away from the government, not private institutions

One of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments. >

But they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on  behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.
Also, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut. >


One hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.

Was really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup. >

I've seen so many right wingers say "Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!" Then, why were they called loans to begin with? >


"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!" 

I mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start.  It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.
They were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met). >

Why would anyone ever vote for any Republican? >

Fox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas. >

It baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society. >

It’s not social  media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.
Social media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.
Social media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate >

"If you can't afford it, the done go to college." Also, "If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college". >

And even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either >

Not true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree. >

Republicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse. >

Where were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven? >

It’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans. >

Hypocrites and Pharisees they are >

Why, oh why won’t young people vote for us?! >

Yeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them. >

Nothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder. >

Republicans: "We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???"
Also Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off. >

Republicans are pure, unadulterated evil. >

These are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil. >

How to lose a demographic in 10 days.  So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t.  So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting. >


So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.

Get ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back. >

Deliciously evil >

And all of them had PPP loans forgiven? >

These people have no souls. >

They really are just ghouls.  Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else.  Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.
Some real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over.  We do need two coherent parties for our system to work. >

Ah yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics. >

This is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage.  Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars. >

Seems the major issue then is why college costs so much now? >

Yes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant. >

They’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America. >

Republicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell. >

They "will" rot in hell. >

The fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities.  Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.
We should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well.  We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.
Free college, cancel debt.  We need both. >

It’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl 
And regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand >

As a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP. >

I don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. 
Make no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! 
It got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML. >

translation:  171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits. >


protect banking sector profits

93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae. >

Sometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die >

Fuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.