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The problem is the left are significantly composed of the anywheres, those who think of themselves as cosmopolitan citizens of the world. while the right is significantly composed of the somewheres, the ones for whom where  they come from matters
The left has struggled with patriotism ever since Vietnam/ civil rights.  Ever since then they tend to be down on what the U.S. does.  It's never good enough.
However, today's right seems more UN-patriotic than usual.  They're more enthralled with one man or irrationally obsessed with hating Democrats and the left than wanting to do what's best for the country.  Last year they seemed to be cheerleading a recession just so they could blame Biden for it.
So yeah, I think the Dems have an opening. >

Biden is incredibly patriotic and the kind of Christian I try to be. I don’t know why GOP branding dominates but it’s a fraud. >

Biden is a pro abortion catholic, that’s a pretty far out Christian stance to be in.
The far right of the Republican Party isn’t who most proud Americans are just like the far left who hates all aspects of pro American symbolism. 
Most Americans are happily in the middle of politics and hanging their flags in their yards/houses and being productive members of society. >

The Bible provides instructions on how to perform an abortion, and explicitly puts the determination on if one should happen on the parents to be.
I'd say the rights position in abortion isn't based on Christianity at all, since in no part of the Bible does it make any comments against it. >


The Bible provides instructions on how to perform an abortion

Mind citing what passage that's in? >

That passage doesn't say what you think it says.
Yes, there is an instruction on drinking a "bitter water" that might cause a miscarriage, though only if the wife has been unfaithful. It's also referred throughout as the priest placing a curse on her. So, are we getting an instruction for how to perform an abortion, or is this magic mumbo jumbo?
Well, let's look at what's in the bitter water. If the passage called for mixing in a bright yellow flower with fringed petals that we could recognize as fringed rue, then you'd have a pretty strong case for the passage containing a recipe for an abortifacient. 
But that's not what's in the passage. You take a clay jar and put in some water. Then you add dirt from the floor of the temple. Then, you write a curse on some parchment, and wash the curse in the dirty floor water. Then the woman drinks that.
...That's not instructions on how to perform an abortion. Not by a long shot. Go to Planned Parenthood and ask about the dirty floor cursed water option. >

It's definitely fake magic, but the intent is for the woman to miscarry if she has been unfaithful. I'm not a doctor or scientist, so I'm not sure if mixing floor dirt in water can cause health issues that lead to miscarriage, however the passage indicates that termination of the pregnancy is the will of God in an instance of infidelity.
Anyway, I'm not the one who made that comment. I just posted the link. >

Drinking a little bit of dirty water isn't going to reliably induce miscarriage.
And yes, the passage indicates that it is a punishment for infidelity, not basic family planning as folks want to spin it. This isn't "Father, we're not ready to have a child because the last harvest was very poor." It's a man hauling his cheating wife into the temple to be cursed. Not exactly a Biblical endorsement for abortion. >

You're splitting the definition of abortion based on intent. Even today, individuals get abortions for different reasons. Sometimes, it's family planning. Sometimes, it's to hide infidelity. Sometimes, it's because a person isn't comfortable with being physically pregnant. 
I'd say the Bible passage is more like a person who drinks, smokes, and does drugs to purposely trigger a miscarriage. However, the Bible passage is a procedure (effective or not) sanctioned and used by a societal institution. >

Waving a patriotic symbol is easy, doing what's required so people can feel proud of their country is the hard part. >

Patriotism is simply a love or attachment to one's country. It does not have to include being proud of it. Pride in something you just happened to be accidentally born into such as race, sexual orientation, gender, religion, nation, and country does not make sense. Pride and shame are false dichotomy. I am not proud to be an American but I sure as hell love the United States for all it has given me and would like to make it even greater than it already is. >

I’m on this earth for a limited time. I want to contribute to the betterment of my family, community, state, and humanity as a whole, pretty much in that order. I want to give to make the whole better. That is patriotism to me. Waving flags and saying how much better I am than people in out-groups because I got to join what I believe to be a winning team isn’t patriotism. >

Probably. 
I think the midterms made it clear the American people want a party that represents normalcy and sanity. With trans panic, shitting on education, and election denialism taking over the right, I think a lane has opened up for Dems to be that party. 
What’s more normal and sane than loving your country? >

I don't know. Don't take a knee, or or burn a flag ? I hate change. >

There’s nothing inherently unpatriotic about kneeling. The practice was literally recommended by a veteran.
As for flag burning, don’t believe there are any elected Dems who burn flags. >

These are good patriotic looks? And assigned to which party like it or not? Reread the thread. Besides, personally, I've never  accomplished much from my knee. >

I'd say having a personal set of values and kneeling in response to them is deeply patriotic.  Patriotism without principles is absolutist nationalism. >

While you were down there, I walked over and fixed the problem. >

You...fixed police brutality and lack of oversight? >

Re-read the thread. >

Loving a child means cleaning up a bunch of shit and not expecting a thank you. Loving America means cleaning up a bunch of shit and not expecting a thank you.
Lots of shitty babies demanding to have their asses wiped is how I see those flag waving fools. >

Patriots like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez have already claimed their Patriotism. They actively advocate for the purposes of Government set forth in The U.S. Constitution: Preamble

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

These are the guidelines to decide should "We the People" do this?
Alexander Hamilton even wrote in Federalist Papers: 84 about the importance of the Preamble.

Here is a better recognition of popular rights, than volumes of those aphorisms which make the principal figure in several of our State bills of rights

Out of these purposes of government, Promote the General Welfare, Education for All are square in the sights of this idea. 
John Adams wrote a bit about the importance of education in a democracy.

the social science will never be much improved untill the People unanimously know and Consider themselvs as the fountain of Power and untill they Shall know how to manage it Wisely and honestly. reformation must begin with the Body of the People which can be done only, to affect, in their Educations. the Whole People must take upon themselvs the Education of the Whole People and must be willing to bear the expences of it. there should not be a district of one Mile Square without a school in it, not founded by a Charitable individual but maintained at the expence of the People themselvs they must be taught to reverence themselvs instead of adoreing their servants their Generals Admirals Bishops and Statesmen*

Here he makes clear the importance of the People being an integral part of the system. It gives us ownership of our own destiny together. He emphasizes the idea of the Whole People and Whole Education. This would include anything preschool and anything after high school, not necessarily just college, but also trade schools, etc.
The rest of the letter John Adams wrote to John Jeb is absolutely fantastic. He goes on to discuss why it's important to create a system that makes people like Martin Luther King jr, Susan B Anthony, Carl Sagan, and Mr Rogers, and Washington. Good leaders should not be a product of the time, but of the educational system and culture of the people. If a country doesn't make good leaders then when that leader is gone there's no one to replace them and that culture and movement dies with them.

Instead of Adoring a Washington, Mankind Should applaud the Nation which Educated him. If Thebes owes its Liberty and Glory to Epaminondas, She will loose both when he dies, and it would have been as well if She had never enjoyed a taste of either: but if the Knowledge the Principles the Virtues and Capacities of the Theban Nation produced an Epaminondas, her Liberties and Glory will remain when he is no more: and if an analogous system of Education is Established and Enjoyed by the Whole Nation, it will produce a succession of Epaminandas’s.

In another short work by John Adams, Thoughts on Government, YouTube Reading, he wrote about the importance of a liberal education for everyone, spared no expense.

Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially of the lower class of people, are so extremely wise and useful, that, to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant.

100 years ago we built in mass the first major wave of highschools in the United States.

In 1910 18% of 15- to 18-year-olds were enrolled in a high school; barely 9% of all American 18-year-olds graduated. By 1940, 73% of American youths were enrolled in high school and the median American youth had a high school diploma.

This was a dramatic shift in education and economic gain for the United States. Not all of our grandparents went to highschool until the public saw it necessary to build them. 
The future is going to need more local experts than ever and a high school education that was good 100 years ago just isn't going to cut it on a global scale. People will need to change careers in the future and probably more than once. We will need continuing education as a society so that people can adapt and change with the coming times. This includes ensuring that after graduating high school people are able to attend and easily afford the education they need to participate in the community.
As long as a person puts in their work to learn and change themselves, our citizens shouldn't be overly burdened with expenses for attending a public education program.
It's not that students shouldn't pay anything, but it shouldn't be so much as to keep them from working and meaningfully participating in the economy. Not as indentured servants, but free citizens.
Bernie and Alexandria along with Huge populations of Americans believe that the future of America worth the investment. >

Thanks for the thoughtful reply >

I think what a lot of people here are doing is confusing right wing xenophobia that uses the symbolism and imagery of America as patriotism. I like to apply Systems Thinking for understanding how things function and then applying that to a company's strategy. In that process one of the main things you need to do is determine what the purpose of whatever you are looking at is. And you need to be objective about it. 
As an example, the United States government will say its goal is to promote democracy across the globe. But if you look at how the US gov't behaves, regardless of which party is in power, we ally and partner with some very terrible regimes that are very undemocratic.  So then what is the purpose of the US gov't then? From my perspective it is to perpetuate the United States and maintain its position of power. From a pragmatic point of view it then makes logical sense that we have relations with the House of Saud, or Erdogan, or despotic rulers in other countries. Do we sometimes support or help Democracy flourish. Yes, of course, but that is not the purpose of the government. 
So Systems Thinking is basically an actions speak louder than words look at how some system functions. So, to look at right wing Americans and if they are being patriotic or not you also have to define patriotism. You can find a lot of definition of patriotism that run the gamut of full blown nationalism to just liking a certain culture. For my response I am going to use Orwell's definition as it provides the clear deviation from nationalism that I think patriotism should take: 
By 'patriotism' I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force upon other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.
My interpretation of Orwell is, as an American, you love this country, for its natural beauty, for its cultural mix, for its opportunity, and you love this country for its way of life, which is enshrined and handed down through our Constitution, which, to update a tad, states all people are created equal and those people are endowed with certain inalienable freedoms. 
So, with my definition of patriotism in hand and objectively looking at right wing positions I find it hard to allow them the moniker of patriot. How could one be when one does not accept the equality of every citizen? How can one claim patriotism if one tries to take freedoms away from people, how can one be when one tries to deny access to those freedoms to other people. The right wing can dry hump the Constitution all day long and wear as many flag themed clothing as it wants, that does not make you a patriot. Because their actions tell you otherwise. 
There is nothing for liberals to reclaim, for liberalism has always been rooted in the ideals of the Constitution. By liberals I don't mean all leftist or even all progressives. There are those on the left who show no more patriotism than those on the right. But for the vast majority of liberals patriotism is on display every day, in the choices we make, the values we support, in our treatment of fellow citizens. There is no need to stick a big ass US flag in the back of your pickup trick while you blast Kid Rock to let people know you are patriotic.