>

Yikes, we're doomed.
“Despite the governor's description of the jury, FloridaPolitics.com notes that there were three jurors, not just one, who refused to impose the death penalty.”
Typical Republican. >

I am old enough to remember that movie.  His constant deception and projection is very typical of Republicans in this day and age.  I agree that DeSantis is terrifying…he is a racist fear-mongering piece of shit like Trump but  smarter. He sees what awful things conservative voters will allow an elected (Republican) official to get away with and I suspect he will double down on that. >


He sees what awful things conservative voters will allow

want >

He worked at Guantanamo. In 2006. Think about that. >

It’s so obvious he’s a soulless sell out who’d say and do anything to be in power.
We need psychopaths and sociopaths out of politics and business and we instead need them locked up in forensic psych wards >

Absolutely agree with you >

Holy shit, this guy just won't fucking stop trying to stir shit up. >

It's like he's desperately trying to get the normies to notice he's bad but they're determined to think of him as a moderate alternative to Trump. >

It’s likely because he polled below trump recently, however what’s particularly weird and bizarre is that he MUST have pollsters telling him this shit doesn’t fly if he’s planning on running for president, it likely doesn’t even fly with conservatives around the country, and yet he’s going through with it anyway.  Which means either A) it’s his own idea and he’s refusing to listen to advice, which is bad enough for him in its own right or B) he’s so wrapped up in yes men telling him increasingly authoritarian shit and he’s too cowardly or weak to resist them which is bad in an entirely other direction.
Either way, it’s bonkers to think nonsense like this won’t bite back when on presidential ballot.  Trump had to appeal to moderates and SOME democrats to win… this is like speed running the opposite. >

Alternate theory: Republicans have very very very dim odds anyway in 2024 so winning the general is off the table. Instead the grift is to secure the repub nom and then lose and cry foul and ride the endless money train like Trump has for 4 years. >

That might be super possible but usually folks like DeSantis need financial backing by people who actually WANT stuff and I don’t quite see how that scenario benefits them and if it doesn’t benefit them I don’t see how he becomes the nominee. >

Really trying to justify that nickname DeathSantis. >

He's testing and stressing boundaries for a presidential run. He knows that Trump pushed a lot of people over quite a few lines, but also made a lot of people mad.
He's trying to figure out how far he can push people and he's trying to normalize some of the shitty behavior he knows the backbone of his voting block is going to expect.
IMO, his plan is to normalize the shitty behavior with the more moderate MAGA-adjacent voters so that when he's running for president he doesn't accidentally drive them away.
There's no reason to be shitty to this level. Absolutely none. This is the kind of behavior you expect from a despot warlord in a zombie movie or other post-apocalyptical setting. Not in a democratic country. >

Honestly I think all of this is going to hurt him considerably. Independents hated Trumpism in the midterms. And I suspect they're going to see DeSantis the exact same way. >

I kind of expect the same. But they hated Trump because Trump brought a chaotic clown show into politics since 2016. I can see independents not really giving a fuck about what people say about DeSantis' war against "wokeness". If Democrats can't put up a straight shooter candidate that is going to fight for working-class interests and showcase why they are better in that regard than DeSantis, then it becomes very shakey. And that's always been a major problem for the Dems: messaging. They'll take off the gloves when it comes to progressives in primaries, but when it's Republicans, they don't want to show teeth. The other problem is that Republicans still manage to be very successful with "socialism" as a boogeyman word to voters, and Democrats have never found a way to deal with that.
Trump won in 2016 because enough independents hated/distrusted Hillary, and she didn't frankly do a good enough job of selling, well, jobs to rustbelt states. The difference between DeSantis and Trump is that DeSantis isn't a MAGA Republican. He's of an ilk far worse, far more calculating, far more sinister, and he doesn't have the baggage Trump does. The questions are: Will he run on a platform of anti-wokeness like his legacy is shaping up as in Florida? If he does, then Democrats actually have a better shot. And how will they take on a DeSantis campaign no matter what his platform is? If notable progressives run, are they going to shoot themselves in the foot by trying to run interference to see their corporate pick get the ticket? How far do they want to go to piss off progressives. I think progressives came out for Biden to help defeat Trump, I don't think they'll come out and support Biden, or someone of that end of the Democratic base again. >

As a progressive, that would be very short sighted. If a more moderate candidate wins the primary fairly -- there's no question they'd win regardless of some small irregularities -- then they have my support. 
I think it's also notable that Hillary was attacked for decades by Fox News, which is what created the distrust around her. Ironically, pushing for children's universal healthcare is what drew ire. 
I think the American independent would dislike DeSantis for the same reasons as Trump, and right now that's what's really driving votes, I think. >

I watched an HBO documentary from the 90s yesterday about 3 8-year old boys who were raped an murdered in a creek in Arkansas.
The police found a mentally handicapped teen who was friends with 2 teen boys who were metallica fans who wore black t-shirts. They coerced him into confessing to the murder and pointing the finger at the 2 “devil worshippers”
Even though there wasn’t a shred of evidence connecting either of them to the crime, and even though the acuser revoked his confession (which was littered with details that didn’t match the crime scene) juries covicted all 3 of them on all counts. They were all sentenced to life in prison, And then the film ends.
They weren’t freed until 2011, when DNA evidence proved none of the DNA at the crime scene matched any of them.
A fast food restaurant had called the police the night of the murders to report a man covered in blood with mud on his boots in their bathroom. The police did not follow up on this. The jury heard testimony from the fast food manager. 
Juries cannot be trusted to sentence teens to life in prison, let alone the death penalty, in hicktown states like Florida and Arkansas.
The doc features all the parents of the dead kids talking about how they’d like to torture and kill all the falsely accused boys. It’s disgusting. I hope they live in shame if they’re still alive. >

Another fine example of a justice system that has clearly not earned our confidence enough to back the death penalty even for people not opposed to it on moral or economical grounds. Like Arkansas, Florida has a particularly disappointing track record for convictions of this sort. From the OP's article: 

Florida has had more exonerations of death row inmates than any other state in the country: roughly one for every three executions carried out. That ought to inspire more humility, not aggressiveness, in deciding when the state should be allowed to kill. >

The American right believes everyone accused of a crime is guilty unless it’s someone they like like a cop or Donald Trump. >

Next, only Judges that are appointed by the current administration should allowed to make all decisions >

Governor simply points his thumb up or down in decisions of death. >

The man who thinks government is too incompetent to manage education, healthcare, etc. wants to make state-sponsored executions more common and have a lower bar required to trigger them. Small government, ladies and gentlemen! >

Look at his culture wars in the state and how he's spreading that influence to other states. If and when he becomes president, he'll will seek the elimination of "undesirables" from the country, this is just him testing the waters on a smaller scale. It's not about governing for him, it's all about eliminating everyone him and his christo-fascist cronies don't like within the confines of redefined laws and courts. >

Bruh as if California doesn’t do the same ☠️ >

Ah yes, famously leftists are calling for the deaths of their political enemies.
Oh, no, wait, I'm confused. That's every fucking right-wing weirdo doing that. >

Re -read his comment >

I did. Can't find a lot of lies in his comment. On the other hand, claiming that California is also trying to lower the bar to kill undesirables is a complete lie. >

The part where he says influencing other states. Yeah lets pretend California doesn’t use that on other states as well. >

How exactly has California influenced other states? >

What the fuck?  If anything a death sentence is totally a place to require unanimous verdict.
You know with all the stuff he's been coming out with, he should never be anywhere near the presidency.  He's a vindictive and insane person. >

Inching toward genocide >

One step closer to an American Holocaust. >

He really hates everything our country stands for. >

They all do >

pro-life Republican tho right? >

Because... that's what Jesus would do! >

I think I know how they justify this: Jesus was sentenced to death and executed. As the son of God he could have stopped the execution if he wanted to. Since he didn’t, Jesus must clearly be supportive of the death penalty. Seems airtight, right? >

It’s disgusting how little regard these “Christians” have for human life. >

It’s disgusting how little regard these “Christians” have for non-fetal human life. Won't somebody think of the unborn! >

I know right they sure don’t. They force birth and then stop caring! It’s amazing to observe the cognitive dissonance in action. They want to prevent abortion, then ban methods of birth control. That prevents abortions. It’s crazy to maximize harm in an attempt to minimize it. >

The cruelty is the point. They want women socially isolated, scared and dependent upon the penises in their life. >

I bet this fucker has whole long list of people he wishes could fast track to an execution. Perhaps, camps full of people. >

Yeah, he looks like he's concentrating pretty hard in that photo. >

I live in Oregon.  We had to change our state constitution to match up with the Supreme Court's opinion. >

Dear god! The absolute assholery here! >

That’s some classic Fascism right there. Imagine thinking the GOVERNMENT should be able to take someone’s life without fully convincing a jury. How is that supposed to work? >

More like communism. Fascism wouldn’t even have a trial. Communism would have a show trial with a pre decided verdict. Sounds like the  commie republicans to me. >

Fascism does show trials with the best of em tho) >

He is completely out of control. >

Man this fascist moose-knuckle in go-go boots really needs to pump the hate brakes a bit. >

He’s a sociopath. Nuttier than a shit house rat. >

why not just make all juries majority rule, Ron? let’s just get rid of the rule of law altogether? >

“If 7 out of 12 jurors want to convict, that should be enough. You can’t have just one person derail this” >

"I should personally be allowed to sentence anyone to death at any time if they say something I don't like" -ron desantis, 2024 >

This guy is beyond drunk with power. Imagine if he had the house, senate, and the oval. Yikes. >

Can DeSantis just stop already? The man's off his rocker. >

Rick Scott signed the law for unanimous juries. Imagine being less reasonable than that guy. >

That’s the first thing I thought when I read that!
Holy hell. >

We should just let a panel of white men stone anyone they want to death. Like some kind of…death panel. >

How fucking pro life of him. >

Jesus, really trying to attract that out of state visitors.  Come to backwater FL where we don't teach our kids and we want to kill someone without restriction >

That America still has the death penalty is embarrassing. Like with many things where we are at odds with most of the rest of the world, the countries on our side of the fence are usually the kids mom didn't want you to play with because they were bad. >

This dude is inshane, word to TWD >

what the actual fuck >

DeSantis is dangerous! >

Doesn't this maroon ever shut up? >

And now this fascist wants a death panel? 
I don't care what bumfuck nowhere town you're from. Come 2024 don't fucking vote for a wannabe Nazi. >

At this rate, Ronald McBoots should run out of windmills well before 24. >

Coming soon: Mega-City One. >

How’s he doing on the homeowners insurance crisis? >

My bet is he's doing absolutely nothing. >

It's hard to imagine this guy's antics winning back states like Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or even Georgia. >

All the warning signs are there, folks. What happens next is up to us. >

A facist if I’ve ever seen one. >

Oh yes it should. If you’re going to commit another human no matter how vile or innocent to death everyone involved has to share that burden/guilt. >

Man, always shake my head that the party the just loves to scream about government overreach seems so hard set on making sure the government and its agents have every right to strip the very life from whomever they deem problematic. >

Fascist Republicans wonder why trials are even needed. >

I guess "beyond a reasonable doubt" was too woke for him.  What a sad little man. >

That’s not what this means. He is describing a situation where someone has already been found unanimously guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury. After that they need to unanimously agree on the death penalty or it reverts to a life sentence. That second part is what he wants to change. You’d still need to be found unanimously guilty for a conviction. >

In order for this guy to beat Donald Trump, he needs to keep the fire on the crazy train stoked to the max. >

DeSadist in his next crypto-fascist nit-witticism  will denounce “beyond a reasonable doubt” as “woke.” >

Unless they're white. Then they need to be guaranteed three trials and must be found guilty in all three by all 12 jurors as well as have a video tape by 16 people of whatever crime they committed and three taped confessions that they themselves gave. >

Republicans who think Trump is too much: “Finally, some sensible conservative policies!” >

Typical fascist shit from a trump wannabe >

Nazi say what? >

DeSantis running the autocrat playbook. >

Yep, one mediocre white person should be able to sentence anyone to death. (Sarcasm on this comment is like buttercream frosting on a cheap grocery store cupcake) >

What a fucking sociopathic opinion. I really do fear how far the right wing is willing to go in this country >


I really do fear how far the right wing is willing to go in this country

They will push it as far as they can until the majority of Americans wake up and realize that the version of "Christian values" that the GOP is imposing are not their values. >

I was listening to Sarah Polley on Marc Maron's podcast today. She stressed several times that there have been people in her life that have become radicalized over the last few years, but that she has insisted that they not stop speaking and listening to one another. She also quoted someone who had said that progress is always one small step forward followed by a significant amount of pushback by those threatened by progress.
I love her films and respect her mind and the take, but these people are determined to destroy things such as racial equality, LGBTQ rights, and financial reform even as abstract fucking concepts. There is no reasoning with them - they are only seeking to rile up their base so as to maintain power and keep the status quo so that they can steal with impunity. >

He wants to kill his political enemies. >

Okay fine.  I find Desantis guilty and I demand the fullest punishment under the law… anybody with me? >

His rantings are going to give the poo emoji a bad name. >

Everyone knows what he's doing and no one cares. All this build up to a presidential run is pointless till he answers the Trump question. Look there's only so many radical right nut jobs that vote and their easily in Trumps corner. People like DeSantis and Trump don't like to share the power of the bully pulpit. All he's going to do is split their respective party like Bernie did in 2016. >

What the fuck happened regarding the Ukrainian (Putin-aligned) mobsters / oligarchs that financed his first gubernatorial campaign? The same ones that have been investigated for nearly five years in association with  Giuliani? Back in the 80s and 90s there was supposedly a  vast surplus of lawyers.  Apparently we need shitloads more for our horribly constipated Justice system to process obvious criminal malfeasance at the highest levels of government, business, media and everything else that Russian mob money can buy.  If Maria Butina is the crown jewel of these investigations, then complicity / corruption has thoroughly penetrated the whole system. >

He must be a baptist I’m guessing.  You can’t be that morally bankrupt without religion. >

Death squads >

He’s a lawyer and still doesn’t realize that’s unconstitutional? >

DeSantis is a fucking chode. >

The party of life. >

DeSantis' daily uvula jerkoff. >

Given the increasingly disfunctional nature of the justice system the death sentence will imperil even more who are innocent. >

Who needs a jury of your peers when a government appointed judge can make the decision on his own council? Sound familiar? >

Attaboy!  Just think how many thousands more people we can execute by putting this guy in the Oval Office.  Maybe we just need one juror out of 12 to make that decision for us? >

American Hitler strikes again. >

Pro life huh? >

GQP death cult >

That’s right Ron! Kill’em all! Even if their innocent. >

It will be fun to see him on trial in that system. >

Would you like to know more? >

This guy just thinks with his ass doesn’t he? >

When this guy runs for president all the dems have to do is show all the stupid stuff this guys has done and say is this what you want? >

He’s not much of a human. He has zero decency >

A little bit more of a hellscape every day. >

"If just one juror vetoes it, then you end up not getting the sentence," DeSantis said during remarks delivered at the Florida Sheriffs Association Conference. "Maybe eight out of 12 have to agree, or something, but we can't be in a situation where one person can just derail this."
DeSantis was expressing his frustration with the decision of a jury in November to sentence Nikolas Cruz, who killed 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in 2018, to life in prison rather than handing down the death penalty. Despite the governor's description of the jury, FloridaPolitics.com notes that there were three jurors, not just one, who refused to impose the death penalty. >


"If just one juror vetoes it, then you end up not getting the sentence," DeSantis said during remarks delivered at the Florida Sheriffs Association Conference. "Maybe eight out of 12 have to agree, or something, but we can't be in a situation where one person can just derail this."

An old saying comes to mind, "Tis better that 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent is convicted". >

y’all think he sucked off all those state troopers after the photo op? >

This guy is the asshole everyone hated when he was in school. >

Ron Deathsentence probably just likes death a lot. >

Pro- life party >

Pro life my foot. >

Just waiting for florida to legalize pit fighting to the death. >

Huh, he was actually in Iraq at one point? It's a shame he made it back. >

The cruelty is the point >

This guy- Jesus Christ, was he not hugged enough as a kid?? Why the fuck is he such a fucking dick? >

This and the whole demanding state universities list what services they provided to trans students is one giant red flag factory. >

Call him Ron DeSantos. >

That would help him with Latin support in Florida ,so no