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I've yet to meet anyone that describes themselves as a patriot who has many patriotic traits.
It’s importantly worth noting the unanimous nature of criminal juries.  Hundreds and hundreds of people of all political persuasions have convicted pretty much every Jan 6 defendant that has insanely decided to go to trial.  And not by a 2:1 or 3:4 margin.  They have voted in complete unanimity that the actions taken on 1/6 were a crime committed against democracy.  This persistent narrative that it was protected free expression of political ideas has been roundly contradicted by hundreds and hundreds of people agreeing unanimously that it was not, it was a criminal act. >


It’s importantly worth noting the unanimous nature of criminal juries. 

And the DOJ is batting 1,000. All wins and no losses. >

Easy to do when you are playing whiffle ball.
They need to go after the ringleaders. >

Seems like every case they win further strengthens their argument against the ring leaders. >

Only if they go after them. They don't appear to be doing much. >

Oath Keepers: enjoy the freedom of prison. >

It is ironic that the government that they hated so much that they wanted to destroy it is now going to be providing them three hots and a cot for free for a good number of year. >

It's not free, they get a bill for it when they leave prison. >

Citation please. >

I thought this only applied to those who obtained a judgement against the state they are being held in and then their stay is debited from their settlement/judgement amount >

It’s county by county and state by state, but no, it’s called pay to stay and the jail or prison charges you for each night you stayed during your sentence. In some places, you can pay extra for nicer housing, private rooms, and more privileges. >

What the actual fuck is wrong with America lol. >

Same thing that's wrong with any country: the rich and powerful. >

Seditious Conspiracy charges and convictions bode well for later charges brought up the chain of command. This is now a recognized legal fact that the events of January 6th were not merely a "riot" or "unfortunate event", this was a coordinated attempt to overthrow the US government by subverting the results of a free and fair election. Fuck the lot of them, Trump and his dipshit cronies as well. >

Yep, this is the second round of seditious conspiracy convictions. 
Going up the chain easier now that two different juries have convicted on the charge. >

People don't seem to understand how difficult getting convictions on seditious conspiracy actually is.
Like it's a big swing. It's not a small or easily proven charge. >

Isn't this the most successful sedition conspiracy convictions since WW2? >

I thought since the civil war? Or is that when the law went into effect? >

iirc Puerto Rican separatists were convicted under seditious conspiracy - the ones who shot up the Capitol >

Looks I'll be diving into everyone charged, the results for them, when, and definitely what the reasoning/event/thing was that they did getting them charged.
I really do find cases like those that get charged under sedation conspiracy very interesting. That 0lus, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it >

You making plans to learn from their mistakes? Not sure most of us are likely to repeat the decisions of people who wanted to overthrow the government. >

Na, not me. Too old and liberal to try that.
All seriousness is I do hope my children and grandchildren learn the truth about Jan 6th and not the crap some people say about it and can recognize it before it grows too much and stop it way before there's another insurrection/coup >

Write a book about it. >

This is the second trial on that particular charge related to Jan 6. There is at least one more in the pipeline. >

The Proud Boys SC trial is ongoing, which is the only other I can think of off the top of my head. >

I'm hoping this is a good sign that the Proud Boys will get convicted. I REALLY want to see those traitorous racist scumbags put in a cell for years and have their lives absolutely ruined. >

Something tells me the Afro-Latino leader of a white supremacist group is going to have a hard time finding friends in prison. He'll have to cozy up to the guards just to have someone watching his back. >

He is a well known snitch, he will probably be protected (until he isn't anymore). >

WASHINGTON (AP) — Four members of the Oath Keepers were convicted Monday of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack in the second major trial of far-right extremists accused of plotting to forcibly keep President Donald Trump in power.
The verdict against Joseph Hackett of Sarasota, Florida; Roberto Minuta of Prosper, Texas; David Moerschel of Punta Gorda, Florida; and Edward Vallejo of Phoenix, comes weeks after after a different jury convicted the group’s leader, Stewart Rhodes, in the mob’s attack that halted the certification of President Joe Biden’s electoral victory.
It’s another major victory for the Justice Department, which is also trying to secure sedition convictions against the former leader of the Proud Boys and four associates. The trial against Enrique Tarrio and his lieutenants opened earlier this month in Washington and is expected to last several weeks.
They are some of the most serious cases brought so far in the sweeping Jan. 6 investigation, which continues to grow two years after the riot. The Justice Department has brought nearly 1,000 cases and the tally increases by the week.
Defense attorneys sought to downplay violent messages as mere bluster and said the Oath Keepers came to Washington to provide security at events before the riot. They seized on prosecutors’ lack of evidence that the Oath Keepers had an explicit plan to storm the Capitol before Jan. 6 and told jurors that the extremists who attacked the Capitol acted spontaneously like thousands of other rioters. >


...which continues to grow two years after the riot...
...events before the riot...
...told jurors that the extremists who attacked the Capitol acted spontaneously like thousands of other rioters.

These traitors were literally just convicted of attempting to overthrow the government and AP is still using the term "riot"? This wasn't a gathering of hooligans after their team just won the Super Bowl. This was an insurrection. >

Great. Now do Trump, Hawley, Biggs, Gosar, Jordan, Ginny Thomas, MTG, Gaetz, Bannon, Boebert etc. >

And the creep with the Nixon tattoo. >

Fucking roger stone. >

I despise him so much my brain blocked his name. >

I feel ya. He’s really one of the worst. Bannon and Flynn, right there with him. >

Imagine ruining your life in the name of a perverted game show host. Like, LOL, what a waste. >

Just like the asshole who went and shot nails at an FBI field office just to bleed to death in a cornfield for a morbidly obese liar who lives off donor money in a beachfront resort. These people are dumber than dogshit. >

It seems like that particular death stemmed the violence towards FBI sites >

So all these dudes are getting convicted but the people who riled them up are still running around? Makes sense. >

Hasn’t even been charged. SMH. >

Now that they have been convicted maybe they will trade some intel for not doing a full twenty. >

First one to squeal gets the deal >

My neighbor thinks these people are actually Antifa. >

Why would anti-fascists want to subvert democracy snd install their orange god ?   Anti-anti-fascists want to overthrow democracy and install a god.    Fascists do that shit.   Anti-fascists like voting,  and democracy. >

Don’t waste any energy trying to understand their rationale. I’ve tried. It makes no sense >

My mother’s most memorable advice to me dealing with my then toddler that applies at any age…
“You cannot argue rationally with irrational people.” >


The judge didn’t immediately set a date for sentencing. The judge denied prosecutors’ bid to lock up the men while they await sentencing, finding them not to be a risk of flight. They were ordered to remain in home detention with electronic monitoring. 

Wild, you just convicted 4 people of seditious conspiracy but don't think they are flight risk? >

Intentional move by the feds to catch them talking or going to someone else? >

The feds were the ones asking that the guilty parties remain in custody until sentencing >

Sounds like what they would say if they wanted to catch them talking >

You know how to take an oath,  but you just don't know how to keep the oath. - Jerry >

Sir, I know what an oath is.
No, I don’t think ya do! >

The comparison I like to share is that of Charles Manson. He was a hellacious murderer, a total nutcase, serial killing madman. Right? RIGHT?? No, Manson never killed anyone. But he was directly responsible for the events of the "Manson Murders". He directed, coordinated and planned it and he went to prison for murder.
So if he can go to prison for murder even though he didn't physically do it, what about Trump on January 6th? We just legally established this was attempted sedition, what about the guy who planned it all? >

Manson did kill someone, on the second night, drove a god damn bayonet through the guys throat. >

That was Tex Watson wasn't it?  I wanna say Manson did murder someone earlier, a drug dealer maybe (the details escape me), but he wasn't there at the Tate LaBianca killings. >

I love it when the news covers something good and makes me smile. >

Keep it going. Don't stop until everyone involved has been given a proper trial. >

Are these the Antifa folks have been talking about?  /s >

good. may each & every one that they have a case against see this conviction.
fuck terrorists. >


“We got a trial by residents of a small judicial district who in one way or another were almost all impacted by the events of January 6th,” Shipley said. “I think that raises some real troubling issues.

Lawyers doing lawyer stuff to set up the appeal.  It's their job to keep representing their client whether it's likely to work or not. >

Our democracy was impacted. Everyone who voted against trump was impacted. That was their goal. >

I hope they are reminded daily that when Trump had the power to pardon them, he chose not to. >

Although I hate how long this is taking plus no impact on planners, glad that it's being established legally that this was a sedition. If that is solidified, *if and when * the real culprits are brought to courts, the sedition aspect will not be up to debate. >

Meanwhile, their fatass moronic orange deity shits his diaper in peace. >

2023 is the year of accountability! >

Now connect the bank accounts. >

Conservative here, and I think the government is taking Jan 6th WAY to lightly.  Most convicted have gotten slapped on the wrist.  100yrs ago they'd be hanged or shot. >

Let’s bring back the trials by combat >

Isn't that how this started, sir?!?  :-D >

Now do Trump & all of those who asked for a pardon. >

To me the best part about this is that these idiots will be in jail in 2024 and won’t be able to cause any trouble for the next election. 
I honestly don’t think these are the types of organizations where someone else will step up to the leadership role. They are just too stupid. >

And hopefully...HOPEFULLY...this will have a chilling effect when Trump loses (again) and tries to mobilize his hillbilly army (again.)
FFS it makes me so angry he continues to walk free. >

I was seriously disgusted seeing video of people in military gear walking in formation up the steps of the US Capitol. WTF is so wrong in this country that you would want to take up arms and do some rogue shit like that?! They earned those convictions. >

This is good news. Now, please, get the bigger fish. And then the biggest ones. >

Only poor people suffer the consequences. >

Kickass. Now tie them to the Secret Service and lets roll all these traitors on up. >

What about the people responsible for removing the panic buttons from an office? >

In Barnetts defense: he didn’t know that the Congress was working on the actual certification of the presidential election. He just walked in and sat at Pelosis desk as he would at home.
Totally normal day for Barnett.
/s >

Imagine being a terrorist organization and naming yourself like a lord of the rings role playing group. >

now we just Trump and about 5 dozen other Congressional Republicans to be charged >

Just several Lone Wolves that just happened to be acting in concert and communicating with each other. >

LOL..'Oath Keepers'
More like Oaf Keepers, they keep that orange oaf and themselves in delusion. >

Well done.  Give them the full 20 years. >

When will the bigger fish get their convictions? 🤔 >

Now, if they could just grab the orange puff ball and throw that in jail with them, then I could celebrate. He brought out these terrorists. Call it like I see it. >

Not enough convictions yet. >

Every time I see pictures of the Jan. 6th crowd, I’m embarrassed to be an American. They’re dumb and pathetic. Dumb isn’t necessarily bad. Pathetic is rarely good. Both is hard to deal with. >

Yawn. Let me know when they go after the pundits and politicians who organized and encouraged it. Putting the small fries away isn't going to fix the problem. >

“We got a trial by residents of a small judicial district who in one way or another were almost all impacted by the events of January 6th,” Shipley said. I think that raises some real troubling issues."
If you don't want to be judged by residents of "small judicial district" then don't commit crimes there. >

That's code for "there were too many minorities on the jury." >

Now do the FBI agent who was just arrested >

Four terrorists, no need to proper noun their bullshit >

Welcome to prison diamond hands. >

Keepin those oaths….just not to our country. >

“I swear an oath to our Lord and Saviour Donald J Trump and the white supremacy that he promised us.” >

Cool now do those who actually planned Jan 6th >

Can we just go ahead and do the orange buffoon next? This slow burn is killing me. >

Ok, now get the people responsible for inciting the seditious conspiracy. This is mostly meaningless theater unless the ringleaders are charged, too. >

Once again the people on the ground are being convicted and sentenced (deservedly so) and the leadership that produced the insurrection is getting off scot-free.
Does anyone remember the attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001? Osama Bin Laden appears to have visited the US only in 1979 and yet he was assassinated for his role in that attack. Where is the legal prosecution of the originators and perpetrators of the "Stop the Steal" movement that is the foundation and motivation of the attack on the Capitol in 2021? >

Good. Let them rot and be forgotten >

The trail to trump keeps getting stronger. >

I am glad the judge had the guts to do this. >

They were convicted by a jury. >

My tax dollars well spent. >

It would be great if they would prosecute these politicians involved in this. 
Especially ones that tweeted, promoting the insurrection. >

Imagine throwing your life away for Donald Trump. A liar who lies about lying when he lies about lying. >

I know.  Ruining your life for a failed gameshow host who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. >

Small fry netted. Big fish go free. >

Brazil really is showing everyone how weak Americas response is. They literally just fired the head of the Brazilian army. >

Yes but it does provide a blood-soaked reminder that maybe you actually NEED to prosecute these motherfuckers. >

Seditious scum can rot. >

Enjoy jail you Trump-humping morons! >

Imagine have a coup attempt in your country and then top news headlines for years are just a trickle of handfuls of minor convictions being held up as if it's meaningful results
Oh wait... >

Really tells you something when these morons went to trial and the jury UNANIMOUSLY convicted them. Trump was impeached twice and republican congress decided not to convict. It's one thing for a jury to convict and another to convince republican congresspeople to convict. I feel like it shouldnt be like this. The people have spoken: this was an attempted coup and these traitors should be in prison. Now if only they could put trump and his cronies on trial. >

I kinda wonder why Trump didn't pardon every Jan 6 rioter while he was still President. >

He had no more use for them. 
He called dead soldiers losers, the guy only cares about himself. >

keeping their Oath in serving prison time lol >

Good news.  Maybe we should repost it over to uplifting news. >

My parents still think it was ANTIFA >

While I am glad they are convicted it's honestly horrifying that we have people being charged with seditious conspiracy on such a large scale. It's not a good sign when you find that much cancer. >

Such a slow and careful process. I understand why, but it's a shame that it all takes so long. >

There's no common frame of reference with these cases. All have to be built from scratch. It must be a tremendous task to make sure they're loophole free. My brain would explode if that were my job. >

Absolutely. I don't think I could juggle that many pieces to make sure I didn't let someone slip through the gaps. >

If the US was the kinda country they want it to be, they would’ve been hung in public for this. >

Now do that fck. tRUMP >

Nothing will matter until trump is in jail >

Throw away the fucking key. >

These are mere pawns. If that, even. Pawn's of pawns. Give me trump and his handlers. >

Trump isn’t coming to save you morons. Youre going to jail for Donald Trump, a guy that won’t think one second about you, let that sink in….you’ve got time >

Oh, look. It's the consequences of my own actions...
Anyway, water is still wet. >

"Oath Keepers?" 
You mean TERRORISTS? >

Now convict Trump and his cronies plus any Senator or Congress, House of Representatives involved!! >

Supreme Court member(s) too! And his wife. >

Enjoy your Oath to Trump lol.  I have more respect for giving an oath to the My Pillow guy, or even just making your own a fictional entity like Glaycon the Snake Lord. >

Glaycon is the best >

Also not keeping oath. >

I hope all those involved get to see their day in court and a justified conviction.
No matter how bad you think one party is, it never justify treason. Just a coward's excuse. >

Keep climbing the chain. Don’t forget to stock up on rope. >

I hope they serve hard time for every second of whatever sentence they get. >

It’s as satisfying as the guy who got smacked in the head with a soda can for being a racist jerk. >

Guess they kept the oath >

I don't get how people who swear the oath end up believing storming the capitol to change an election outcome makes sense, at all. A few years ago they seemed libertarian, how they ended up shilling for Trump is completely irrational. Good riddance >

That seems like too cool of a name for them. >

Four more traitors going to be styling in orange jump suits! >

Is it just me or is this right wing extremism kinda worldwide right now? I find it odd that the same rhetoric is growing in almost every western country and I really don’t think it’s “republican vs democrats” behind it. 
It makes me think who absolutely hates western democracies and wants them to rot from the inside?
If you wanted to trigger the west into a civil war, who would you target? Also, who is most likely to be armed and impulsive? 
Maybe public groups giving out the identity of PTSD’d veterans is not a good idea as there’s a massive chunk of these movements that have that demographic. Maybe these people are getting targeted. I mean none of them seem to respect the laws they claim to uphold but at the same time I think it’s far more nefarious for who the puppet masters are. >

Cough...cough...Putin...cough... >

Yeah but when you say that directly the trolls show up, and then the MAGA guys get really emotional about being pawns. >

Fuck the trolls. It all goes back to Putin. >

The little man syndrome of that guy is some serious material for “how to be a world acclaimed narcissistic d-bag” 
But the levels of manipulation are what get me, k so have you ever noticed that things that have become right wing buzz issues that cause controversy were just a few years ago “dark comedy memes” so first,

Humourize a western value 
De-humanize the effected person
Weaponize the value, since step 1 and two have de-sensitized you to cruelty 

I might just be really tripping out too >

You might be onto something. BTW, love your username. It's a shame your country's national dish has to share a name with that small-dicked dictator. >

Alot of places in the world they wouldn't even get a trial or any form of due process. >

Every single one of these treasonist pos should be stripped of their citizenship and deported >

Yet none of the ones who plotted and planned the whole event in Congress are being held accountable at all and are still being paid out of our tax dollars. How beautifully American. 
Welcome to American justice. Where the wealthy have a different set of laws, and the poor go to prison. >

Quick Question: does being convicted of Seditious Conspiracy result in lifetime disenfranchisement—as a result of the particular offense— rather than as a result of being convicted of a felony? I’m not a fan of disenfranchising folks forever because they committed a crime, and do believe formerly incarcerated folks oughtta be able to vote—EXCEPT these asshats. Your coup failed? Enjoy not voting. >

I bet most of their families are accessories. >

Right on!  Keep it going! >

Throw away the key and let those terrorists rot. >

Too bad there was no leader that inspired them to do anything, it was just a random group of people who decided to storm the White House that day.... DOJ, get off your lazy ass and charge the people that caused the shit to happen.
Absolutely no one responsible for organizing these groups has been held accountable. Enough of the low hanging fruit. This is going to happen again unless we stop the people who planned it and organized it, not just the foot soldiers who executed the plan. >

Seeing comments like this are about as infuriating as it is to see those truly responsible at the top remain not only free, but able to continue to inflict their lies and damage against our democracy. The DOJ is not being lazy. There's a major reason why they are not charged yet.  
The DOJ is building a case. Uncle Sam does not like to lose in court, and they have a very good record of not losing in court, because they take their time and build their cases to be air tight so that either fools fight and lose or you take a plea deal. The conviction rate is something north of 90%. These seditious conspiracy convictions just add more evidence for the DOJ to use against the top conspirators. 
It's annoying, I know. But in the words of Gabe Newell, "These things, they take time."  
I just hope we have enough time, and enough political willpower amongst the citizenry of this nation in order to keep those who are guilty away from the reigns of true power before the noose tightens around their scrawny treasonous necks. >

Not to mention, seditious conspiracy is a difficult thing to prosecute, much less win on.
I would suspect an order of magnitude more effort and time went into that charge than all the others combined. 
That wasn't a slap on the wrist -- it's second only to outright treason (which has a Constitutional definition that none of the 1/6 insurrectionists met). >

Good News!  Ain’t that so sad…. All them faux pathetic patriots