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Don't need to support just don't get in the way
Nothing surprising.  Even if the Quran burning didn't happen, Erdogan would have thought something different. >

I look at his face and can't unsee a blackmailer >

I see a double agent. This is why Putin has been so nonchalant about Sweden and Finland joining. >

Putin has made plenty of threats over it, it's just not that important for Finland or Sweden to get accepted in a hurry. Both countries are more than capable of preventing a Russian invasion on their own, and they both have defensive pacts with other countries. Nordefco, for example, is Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. >

I didn't know about Nordefco. Thanks >

Erdogan has been looking for a reason to deny Sweden, this is just his excuse... Fuck Turkey and Erdogan in particular, kick them out... I'd rather have the swedes >

Boycott Turkey and their goods. >

Especially lunchmeat, their main export >

Piece of crap gonna be a piece of crap. >

Erdogan is a piece of shit, like Trump >

Oh boy. A group of muslims burn a Quran and the leader of a muslim country loses his shit and bans a country of predominantly lutherans from joining a military defense organization. >

It has nothing to do with that. Erdogan is having economic and political issues at home. This is a way to whip up his base before elections in May. >

Feed him to the pigs >

You recommend we send in MBS? >

Mistrusting Bowel Syndrome?
That might be a bit harsh. >

Nah, it stands for Murderous Bonesawing Saudi. >

Turkish people need to understand the western world does not hate them. We hate Erdogan. >

I mean, it's basically just going to go like this:
If Erdogan loses his election, it's irrelevant and the next guy will probably accept them both quickly to have a nice success and goodwill right out the gate. 
If Erdogan wins, he can expect to be even further isolated from the EU. He can kiss any chance of getting those F-16s he wants goodbye and the US probably goes a lot more hardline with its weapon exports and servicing, which would severely curtail Turkey's ability to do foreign adventurism. Especially if he continues down the despots path as he is. 
Authoritarians get to be allies, see Saudi Arabia and the like, but they don't frequently get to last long as central decision making partner. Expect to see serious pressure applied if he wins he elections and continues to be recalcitrant. If he flips right after the elections, that'd be another thing entirely. >

Why do People think the election Will be fair and he could lose? Turkey is not a democracy anymore. >

It's not quite that far gone. It's more like Hungary where Erodgan has begun corrupting other governmental agencies and the media to consolidate his own power. 
He could still very well be ousted yet, but if he isn't soon, he likely won't be. >

I'm not sure Erdogan could even explain the concept of free speech. >

I remember that. Convenient of his guards to pull that shit in a heavily-firearm restricted city. If they'd been kicking and beating an unarmed, defenseless woman curled up on the ground in a southern town, it would not have gone well for them. Hell, I'm surprised none of the other protestors ganged up on the goons and gave them a beat down. We don't put up with that shit from neo-Nazis, why should we put up with it from Turkish goons? >

Can NATO trade Sweden for Erdogan-led Turkey? >

So, a dictator sabotaging efforts to keep another dictator in check. Got it. >

He reminds me of a used car salesman, who’s dad started the dealership.  He can be an asshole to everyone and no one can really say or do anything.
I’m also aware this is an insult to used car salesmen, for that I’m sorry. >

I'm sure Muhammed would be be proud to learn that his followers place his teachings about the value of human life over the actual lives of innocent people. >

Oh look, Erdo-Gollum crawled out from under his rock again
I assume that he has the one ring on his cock, since it appears invisible >

saw this coming as soon as i saw the article about them looking at Eurofighters now after the USA tried to coerce them with that f-16 deal >

Why would they have acces to fighters from europe if they are trying to veto european security? >

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO. They have no right for holding the situation hostage. >

They have all the power though. Location location location. >

Well with it being obvious now that Russia was a paper tiger and "7 days to the Rhine" will never happen. It seems less critical to attempt to hem Russia in on all sides. NATO doesn't need the Turks critically anymore for the alliance to be safe.
Moreover there is no point in supporting the Turks in suppressing the Kurds through bloodshed, turkey even invaded Syria to prolong the Syrian civil war only to violently suppress the Kurds in another country outside of thier own. 
Location begins to matter less, when you don't stand for the goals and/or ideals of the alliance. It's long past time to kick thier asses out NATO. >

How does Turkey get blamed for USAs mess in Syria? >

No, it seems like there are a lot of players in the Syrian civil war because every one has their own agenda. The US backed the Kurds in Syria by giving them guns and training (no boots on ground) so that they could fight for thier independence while also fighting ISIS. Meanwhile the Turks invaded Syria several times to suppress the Kurds in any way possible even beyond thier own boarders if necessary.
Turkey gets held responsible for the direct actions of thier military. And it's not just the USAs mess in Syria because every faction in that war has had major players backing it including but not limited Russia, France, Iran, Israel, Egypt.
So it's everyone's mess, but Turkey's goal seems to just be near genocidal oppression of the Kurds. In or outside of thier borders, it doesn't matter to them. >

Right... Genocidal oppression... 
Is that what you call military operations against terrorist groups operating out of the syria/turkey border? The ones that were armed by usa.
I guess turkey is also genociding the millions of kurds that are citizens in turkey living normal lives too? >

Soooo... What's it take to kick turkey out of NATO? >

If Sweden could bring even half the force capability of the Turkish military, this might be worth asking. I say this begrudgingly.