>

So these law makers are looking at the effects of banning abortions, such as increased maternal deaths and increased back ally abortion, and saying to themselves that it's still a good idea, even if it means ending democracy to kill more mothers.
They lie.  This was always the plan.  Its how scams work.  They lie and move the post a little.  Then they move it again and again.
The goal is known and I don't understand how people fall for their lies. >

"It's OK because we're lying for Jesus!" >

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."

Susan B. Anthony >

....I've been saying so something similar to this forever, so it's nice I can quote someone more authoritative than "-me" >

Florida does this all the time. The people overwhelmingly vote for something and then the Florida legislature immediately does everything it can to make the vote invalid.
Because Republicans don't care about people. They only care about themselves >

And then Florida votes for Republicans to do it again. Seems like they enjoy the abuse. >

I feel like conservatives LOVE being gaslit masochists. >


For years, the clarion cry of the anti-abortion movement was to let states decide their own abortion laws. Among conservatives, it was to reclaim power more generally from Washington and defer to local values. In practice, however, those supposed values are subordinated to an overwhelming drive to win the culture wars at any costs, whether through legislative trickery or local preemption. There is only one constant in where Republicans say they want governance decisions to be made: wherever they can win them.

I don't know why anyone would take Republican politicians at their word, at this point.
They lie and slander and practise hypocrisy; no baseness is off limits, in pursuit of owning the libs. Then their hate for the left is intensified when the left doesnt behave in the same immoral, valueless way, that Republicans think everyone behaves in.
Republicans cannot stand to be looked down upon by the left, regardless of whether their actions merit it. This is refraimed as "elites sneering", and is regurgitated as another reason to hate the left. >

Some Congressional Republicans started talking national ban even before Dobbs was official.  Even for the unobservant, it should have been obvious that talk about sending it to the states was not serious. >

Kansas Republicans’ abortion restriction proposal is in direct defiance of a vote last year by Kansans to protect abortion rights, and further proof of conservatives’ own ideological flexibility when it comes to local governance. >

It’s simple, conservatives will tell you whatever you want to hear to get their way.
It’s all about controlling others. >

The same could be said for democrats aswell >

Then let me hear you say it, with sources.
Every time I hear "bOtH SiDeS aRe ThE sAme!" argument, I remember looking at a list of pedophile charges. There were about 100 Republicans and 5 Democrats (my numbers may be off, but the point remains). That's not the same, at all. >

Typical Republican.  Try to jury rig the results even after the voters have spoken.  I'll ask again, why do you folks keep voting for republicans?  They don't have your interests at heart.  Not on the economy.  Not on a family.  Not on anything.  Jeez....pay attention! >

Fear mongering and religion, and other factors that would take to long to list its truly sad >

They never argue in good faith.
The same people that said "well it's up to the states now and that's a good thing"
Are the same bow saying "these states don't know what's they're doing, take it away anyway" >

Local municipalities cannot make any laws that contradict the constitution regardless of whatever bill this idiot proposes. It'd be DoA in court. The people have spoken. >

The "party of small government" strikes again. >

Fucking Republicans >

they will run 50 different and often contradictory anti-choice campaigns in the 50 states and people out here will be holding them up to some good faith standard as if they aren't operating on their juju system of faith. >


Abortion rights are still protected by the state Constitution in Kansas, and so state lawmakers there have had to think outside the box. Kansas Senator Chase Blasi introduced a bill last week that would try to do an end run around the state Supreme Court. Instead of banning abortion through state law, Senate Bill 65 would give local authorities the power to pass abortion restrictions.

How would these city or county level restrictions not violate the exact same right as the state level ones.
Or is this just the same old "keep pushing bullshit until a judge agrees with you" tactic they used to overturn Roe? >


Or is this just the same old "keep pushing bullshit until a judge agrees with you" tactic they used to overturn Roe?

Same old.  But they were successful with burdensome waiting periods, ultrasounds and mandatory widths of hallways long before Roe was overturned.  They chip away, it’s what they do, they’re very good at it, and not nearly enough people pay attention.