>

Did the committee withdrawal Trumps subpoena? Why can’t I find that anywhere except for friggin right-wing sites?
r/LeopardsAteMyFace >

And then he goes on to regurgitate the lies fed to him about antifa being embedded instigators on Jan 6th.
"I can't believe these politicians are spreading lies about me"
But also...
"I still believe this particular subset of lies spread by these very same politicians" >

I reminds me of the end of Operation Odessa. This one dumb ass Russian gangster is super heart broken because his Cuban Spy/Columbian fixer fucked him out of a multimillion dollar deal involving cocaine, Russian submarines and fucking Florida of all places. They all went to prison. >


"We had a tour bus come by our home and our business with all these whacked out people in it," Epps said. "There are good people out there that was in Washington. Those aren't the people that's coming by our house. This attracts — when they do this sort of thing, this attracts all the crazies out there."

Says the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman >


Says the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman

From what I saw he never entered any restricted area and might not have gone passed any of the downed barriers. >

Oh, so he only attempted to overthrow democracy.
Thanks for clearing that up. >

Accuracy matters; he might be a shitbird but there is zero proof he went beyond any barriers and he was never charged. >

So does intent. Why was he there that day? >

He could have simply been protesting, which is legal. I hate trump more than the next guy but it’s insane to say that there were zero dumb trump supporters there that “noped” the fuck out when shit went down. 
If he was there and didn’t break a law why should he be arrested? Jordan Klepper was there too, should we arrest him? >

I see your point. However To Jordan Klepper he would fall under “different intent”.
And hoping the fuck out is something that someone should be excused for if they decided early on this was going in the wrong direction… but how do you get to that point without knowing what’s going on? >

Those theories did not ruin your life.  All of us had equal access to those theories.  Very few of us decided to attack the capitol ...... or believe the theories.  This is on you.  You.  Just you. >

Imagine finding out at this late date that 45 is, was and will always be nothing more than a loud mouthed, foul, cheap ass, bigoted con man.  And you threw away any honor you had left as a Marine and are facing significant jail time for being such an easily played tool.
Bitter pill.  Somebody wanna tell him about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus? >

He still hasn't found out, though. He's still defending Trump and repeating conspiracy theories about Jan 6. >

Yes, that was the point, the cognitive dissonance hasn't bitten him yet but it's coming.  And it's gonna be a massive mind fuck or mind un-fuck.  Prison gives one a goodly bit of time for reflection. >

Let's hope it's a mind un-fuck so there's one less idiot out there. Now, I wonder how many crying nazis we'll get by the time this whole thing is over (assuming it ever is)? People are getting away with essentially slaps in the wrist, but some of those slaps are like 7 years. That's still no joke. >


Even after telling the committee how conspiracy theories had torn apart his life, Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that "antifa" had infiltrated the mob.

Wait, so after he spoke to committee and tried to explain what a “good guy” he was/is,  he continued to spread The Big Lie after this? am I reading this correctly? 
Also,  earlier in this article it mentions he was “under the impression”  the night before January 6 that the Capitol was going to be open to the public.  Is he this stupid or was this another instance of right-wing disinformation that was spreading before January 6? Or maybe he’s just straight up lying. >

The military doesn't draw the best or the brightest but the easily manipulated followers flourish.  Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die.  And that they do in record numbers. >

Alternate headline:
Man From Party of 'Personal Responsibility' Incapable of Accepting Personal Responsibility >

It's never their fault, is it? >

He still thinks Trump is a good guy who is just getting some bad info from his staff.
There are none so blind as those who will not see. >

Easier for most people to blame everyone else, even made-up people, than admit they were wrong. >

"Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof."
\~ John Kenneth Galbraith >

Conspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him. >


Conspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.

"Your leg is in a meat grinder."
"No it's not."
"Well...it obviously is."
"That's what the Deep State wants you to believe."
"Okay...fine...but maybe you could at least stop turning that crank?" >

Ha. >

Just the "crazy" ones though, right? >

He's just bummed because he ended up on the receiving end of the conspiratorial mob. Were he the one inflicting the torture he probably would still be fully on board.
Same with Rusty Bowers. That MAGA trash only gave a shit when the mob came for HIM. >

Over at r/conspiracy they're convinced that this is the guy that got thousands of people to storm the Capitol and not the guy who tweeted "be there ... will be wild" >

No one put a gun to your head and forced you to believe in such obvious bullshit, Ray. You have free will and access to all the information the world has to offer. If you ended up delusional it’s your own damn fault for lacking the ability to think clearly and critically as a supposedly functioning adult. And it’s DEFINITELY your fault for supporting Trump after all we know about him
Maybe listen to the millions and millions of people who say something is a bad idea before believing the first person who tells you something you want to hear >


Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that "antifa" had infiltrated the mob.

When are the Antifa meetings and are there snacks? Because I am very anti-facists >

I hear they have cookies, chocolate cookies, with a gooey inside.
Please let that not also be a conspiracy. >


Pro-Trump protester

Good thing NBC News isn't normalizing terrorism and sedition. >

Enjoy prison, traitor. >

For being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy >

And yet he's still a republican.. some people don't have the ability to learn. >

The only qualification to be republican, is to be hateful and swear to take down the libruls... he will always be a republican >

No, YOU tore apart your life. You’re saying the match was the source of your problems, not the fact that every day you walked around with your britches full of more and more dynamite. >

Well he's not in jail and that's the most important part. Seems like he got the best outcome possible from his part in it >

Poor fellow >

Take my upvote.  Still chuckling. >

Ray Epps got labeled a FBI mole just because MAGAs were desperate for shifting blame away from themselves and Trump. The "proof" they needed was that he "looked" like a FED, what ever that means. >

For being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy >

He wasn't a primary instigator and if you read the article you would see he was trying to de-escalate things on Jan 6th and didn't even enter the capitol building. >

can you give me one line/sentence showing how he was trying to deescalate >

Answer me this- do you honestly think if he was an FBI affiliate he would actually say come clean? Especially after all the lies that have unfolded in the last year like the HB story being Russian disinfo. They lie more than civilians because they aren't afraid of the repercussions since they'll be backed by the same people that do the arresting >

The best part about your conspiracy theory is that it can't be debunked because everything becomes part of the conspiracy. >

Yea it's very easy to dismiss the hunter Biden story because you can say those thousands of pictures of videos of bank statement payments, him weighing crack and texts telling his niece to not speak about their relationship all becomes too easy to fabricate right >

Cool story dude, I definitely won't vote for Hunter in the next election! >

Great I hope you are cool with tax dollars paying for crack users that the president will lie for to make foreign money from and jeopardize Americans >

Which came first; The conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theorist? >

Something something leopards eat faces something. >

Well I heard the conspiracy stories too and just thought….Well THAT’S stupid!  And went on my way. >

I agree dumb people usually are dismissive >

Where are you on the whole, "Jewish space lasers" thing? >

I'd have to read into that never heard of it >

I hear crazy conspiracy theories every day.
No, **HE** tore apart his OWN life. >

I’m convinced that this country is full of people that never followed the news or learned to be media literate. Too busy with a family, into sports or video games or whatever. When Covid hit they were all at home trying to figure out what was happening, and since they lacked any skill at discerning truth from fiction they lost their collective minds down the rabbit hole of Q and the self-serving lies of the president. >

For being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy >

Always so funny when a true believer gets sacrificed by the rest of his cult on the altar of “he’s a plant!” Almost as if this is not a belief system held by serious people… >

Too late for crocodile tears >

He sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old. >

It must really suck having crazy people show up at your work and threaten you huh? >

Oh really and I bet your still following your crazy conspiracies? >

"I never intended..." that's a criminal law trial classic. >

This pleases me. >

Will he still get his retirement from the FBI? >

This guy is all over video telling people to go into the Capitol. Was actually on site directing traffic. He's not in jail, never even arrested. Ridiculous. >

Just so you know, the Jan 6 "truthers" think Ray Epps was an FBI plant whose job it was to provoke the otherwise "peaceful protesters" into starting some shit.
EDIT: Look below, I found one already! >

He was definitely provoking people. Was he an FBI plant? It would explain why he hasn't been arrested yet. The number of people not yet identified who played a big part in that day is frankly surprising.
Who set the pipe bombs?
Who cut the fencing?
Who was standing on top of that riser with a bullhorn urging people forward?
J6 played out in a very choreographed manner. Distract MPD with pipe bombs, cut fencing and remove signage defining the restricted area, urge the mob onto the Capitol grounds (insert Ray Epps here), and watch the chaos ensue. Who are these people? I hope the J6 committee report is only the first half of what is still to come. >

Whew, there's not much I enjoy more than a good ol' right-wing conspiracy theory that no one can actually explain in a way that makes the slightest bit of sense.
The "questions" you're asking all seek to create a sense of doubt in the "official narrative" and plant the seed that what could have happened is that the nefarious left choreographed the entire course of events that culminated on J6 in a grand plan to create the illusion that Trump and his supporters were attempting an insurrection and then punish them accordingly.
So we must then ask, do you actually believe this is the case? >

I guess I would turn that around. Are you satisfied with the "official narrative" when so many key actors have yet to be publicly identified and interrogated? Those pipe bombs didn't materialize out of nowhere at that specific moment. Those fences didn't cut themselves prior to Trump's speech even being finished. That mob was clearly directed by people who have yet to be identified. Were all those people agents of Trump? Is that the conspiracy theory I'm supposed to believe? Do you believe it?
What I do know is there's a lot we still don't know. One thing beyond dispute is FBI plants exist and they're used all the time, so that conspiracy theory is at least reasonable even if not proven. We'll know more when we know more, which is why I hope the J6 committee continues and turns it's attention to other dark corners. >


I guess I would turn that around

Of course you will because there's no other path that allows you to retain your faith that the plain facts in front of you are not true.
It won't ever matter to you when these questions are answered, you will be given new questions to ask by those whose livelihoods require you not believe the "official narrative".  Alex Jones, Gavin Mcinnes, Tucker Carlson and all the rest need you to keep asking.
Nonetheless, I'll jump in and play your game.  Let's pretend that tomorrow we discover irrefutable evidence that the FBI or Antifa or George Soros himself planted the pipe bombs, cut the fences, and directed the mob to the Capitol.
If that were true, it would then also have to be true that either Trump and his advisors and sycophants like Jones were in on it with those dirty leftists OR they were duped by them.
If they were all in on it together, why? 
If not, and they were simply pawns in a grand scheme, why?  If it really was a remarkably elaborate ruse, what purpose did it serve?  
If you really want to "ask questions", these are the ones you should really be asking yourself and others so you can finally realize that the thing you don't want to believe is actually true. >

Plain facts are we don't know who dropped the pipe bombs. We don't know who cut the fences. We don't know why Ray Epps and the others on video urging the mob forward are not in jail. Critical players are not being mentioned in the credits for the January 6th Revue.
I don't know why pointing out those plain facts bothers people. Somehow admitting the current narrative has gaping holes is like a bad case of indigestion. "Questions! Who would have questions when we already know everything... except these key things... that I'm sure don't matter because... because Alex Jones and Trump put them up to it!" 
WTF?
I mean, the very idea that some would want Trump implicated in a scheme to attack American democracy... That's clearly the last thing democrats would want. Anyone suggesting otherwise clearly missed the entire Trump presidency where the democrats were first to debunk the totally bogus Steele Dossier, first to admit Hunter Biden was a talentless drug fiend monetizing his dad's office, first to admit Mueller never had anything worth investigating. Those proud dems were defending their country against a rabid media, and they should be commended. The very suggestion that they might be invested in framing this J6 attack as worse than three Civil Wars and eight 9/11s is disgusting.

Are you satisfied with the "official narrative" when so many key actors have yet to be publicly identified and interrogated?

Hmm? >


Plain facts are we don't know who dropped the pipe bombs

Correct.  Knowing this person's identity is in no way necessary to prove the other facts we do know.

We don't know who cut the fences.

Or if they were even cut.  It certainly wouldn't strain credulity to assume that if they were cut it would likely have been done by one of the hundreds of people who were engaged in text conversations for weeks planning a violent insurrection.

I mean, the very idea that some would want Trump implicated in a scheme to attack American democracy

So you're willing to believe Trump and everyone in his circle who has been proven to be involved in planning their attempt to stop the certification are simply rubes who were tricked by the deep state into playing along with a grand scheme to make them look stupid.  That's pretty interesting.

Are you satisfied with the "official narrative" when so many key actors have yet to be publicly identified and interrogated?

No, I'm far from satisfied.  I think each and every participant in those events should be interrogated and prosecuted. >

Why do people keep claiming that antifa infiltrated this or staged it? Is there even any actual evidence of that? Why is that theory easier to believe than that these rioters were actually Trump supporters / election deniers, many of whom have had their identities revealed in the investigation?
To clarify: I do not believe that antifa is responsible I just wanna know where this BS comes from. >

Because the party of personal responsibility means you take responsibility. They don't have to. And they spin conspiracy yarns because they're special little snowflakes who melt under the slightest but of pushback, so they create theories like this to spare their precious little fee-fees. >

Lol I agree. I just wanna know what ‘proof’ has been offered to these people (if any) to support this crap. My dad 100% believes antifa and Nancy Pelosi orchestrated this whole thing. He said he knows it’s true because “Republicans just don’t act this way; Democrats do.” My eyes about rolled out of my head.