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First Kanye and now Usher? Yeah!
That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service. >

I still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS. >

It’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.
His only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues. >

Having a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal. >

That's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.
You can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage. >


An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.

Are you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.
We might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing. >

I think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.
Any of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.
They would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.
They are managing a rumor mill. >


I think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk

If it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.
And also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.
Edited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.” >


But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.

If the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.
I don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case. >

Trump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. 
Basically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.

Ultimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House
Since there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.

I'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. 
As I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well. >

I’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift. >

I’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected >

That’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own. >

The Mueller report spells it out in the summary that they couldn't uncover the extent of collusion because Trump and Co. destroyed so much evidence and purposefully used encrypted communication. >

And sadly, almost no one knows that. >

Petty little putz, not mention just an asshole. >

If anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother >

His father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald. >

He is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7. >

76 year old toddler. >

If the diaper fits... >

... it's full of fast food shits. >

He was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum >

She most likely told him to wait until Inauguration Day because if they fired him earlier there would be no one to coordinate their household servants. >

I wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility.   Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af
It will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval.  
Canada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence;  that's where Trump officially placed us.  
Then he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for....    But yet Canada's still on that list >

Some of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired >

You put it far more succinctly than I ever could.   I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me.  If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted >

Because Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this >

Republicans removed Obama care and wondered why they start voting democrat >

Obamacare is a poor substitute for UHC, but at least it was something >

No shit.  At least it's something.  What's your point? >

That was my point >

How dare that guy do the job he is paid to do..... >

Fuck trump >

Of all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind. >

Nothing is too petty for Trump. >

Such a petty piece of shit. >

The most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far. >

Leave Usher alone! >

Ushaaaa, Ushaaaa >

The pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone >

This is full-on temper tantrum. >

Trump is a fucking asshole. >

Such a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh >

I’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher. >

I wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds. >

I wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.
It’s the kind of petty shit he lives for. >

My god he is petty. >

Trump is so disgusting - unpresidential. Trash. >

As this thread reports, this leak must have come from Secret Service agents informing on Biden to Trump. Many of them are right-wing zealots who are a security threat to Biden. They have the access that could easily make them assassins.  I recommend that they all be replaced with a contractor with a clean record.  Contractors know that they can instantly be fired if they screw up. >

So glad I wake up every day knowing that he lost. 😌 >

No matter how much you learn about Trump, there's always something stupider and more childish yet to be discovered. >

Talk about “small dick energy”…sheesh >

I’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. 
I have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps. >

To which he replied, "how the hell am I supposed to leave?" >

He also had all brail removed from elevator buttons cause he didn’t know what it was for. True story! >

What a petty piece of shit, that man is!