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I stumbled across someone who had committed suicide with a gun in the bush. Totally random. Not something you wanna see when you’re not expecting it. Just walking the dog enjoying the summer. Head was blown off. I am traumatized forever because of that. I can’t watch movies that involve head injuries because of it (think like squid games, can’t do that). There are other things about that situation that make it so traumatizing, but I do understand a little. I could imagine the effect of seeing one of your family members like that.
It’s interesting because I shouldn’t have to have been subjected to that, and have that fucked image/horrifying memory in my head control parts of my life, but I only ever feel sad for that guy.
I mean jumping in front of a car is selfish cause imagine how the driver must feel, but seriously sorry that happened. >

I agree, although it's very controversial. People who call it selfish actually fosters even more guilt and shame, which ironically can push someone to suicide even further, or worse, abstaining, solely to keep other people happy.
I wouldn't want anyone to stay alive just so that I could be happy. That's a LOT of responsibility to put on someone else.  My happiness is my responsibility. If one deems their life has no inherent value and there's no way that they can lead a fulfilling or happy life, maybe due to physical disabilities or something else, I wouldn't want them to feel forced or guilttrip them to stay alive.
Truly that's selfish.
That being said, I also think ending one's own life has a degree of selfishness too. But I don't think selfishness is inherently a bad thing. We all make selfish choices every day to stay alive. I.e. eating dinner instead of going out serving starving, homeless people. >

Thank you! Someone else finally agrees. I remember talking to someone who's brother committed suicide. All I remember was him saying how his brother ruined the family by committing suicide. 
No, he didn't. 
I wanted to slap the dude for saying that. >

I think from a brother's perspective, he's right. Suicides fuck up a family completely. My friend's suicide broke up his family even though they all loved each other, lived under the same roof and talked every day. >

My brother committed suicide. Grief is hard. I often find myself screaming at the sky at him for how selfish it was. He left his daughter. She doesn’t have a dad now. It honestly makes me so mad at him. How do you explain to a child their parent didn’t think they were enough for them to live? 
I love him. But what he did was a bit selfish. I know he’s at peace and in a better place. I know he’s no longer hurting. And I’m happy for him. But he left a lot of hurt behind. And it’s ok for me to be mad at him for that at times. >

I’m sorry for your loss :( this is a touchy subject. Since I haven’t experienced what you have, should I delete this post? Was it too triggering or is good for people to vent their feelings on this? >

I think you should leave the post up. 
It may generate some interesting discussion (I know that's expecting a bit much from Reddit, but I believe).
I think there are some selfish aspects to suicide, in that you don't realize (or just don't care) the grief you're going to put your loved ones through. >

Yeah I never agreed with calling it selfish. They see it as a way to end their pain. >

I attempted suicide once, and you know why? I was selfish. I didn't see all of the pain that it would cause other people, especially my family, who would've been the ones to find me. It is a selfish act. Cowardly, no, but certainly selfish. >

Eh they dead either way not like they'll hear you insult them. >

My friend committed suicide. It sent me down a bad spiral of despair and pain. I had to stand there with his drunk mom asking me why for two hours and I had no answer why he did it.  His mom then killed herself. I have no idea what happened to the father. You telling me my friend wasn't selfish for killing himself and inflicting this pain upon us? >

I don’t know if he was selfish or not, but it seems suicidal people have completely devalued themselves to the point they don’t think anyone will miss them. >

I disagree. There is life long hurt and confusion. My best friend lost her father to suicide when we were in our early 20s. She has extreme PTSD. Guess who found him dead? Not something I’d be ever able to handle. She has the biggest support system in the world but his death completely traumatised her for life. It didn’t matter that she had a loving family and wasn’t young. He should have thought about that. A decade later and she struggles a lot