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I’m voting for him again, but this was deeply disappointing and I don’t buy that he was surprised about the Afghan forces crumbling so quickly.
We needed to exit, but why couldn’t the withdrawal have been slowed down?
That’s the difference between him & trump.  Trump would go to sleep with a smile on his face thinking of how he “beat” those afghans >

How Trump broke the system that offers protection to Afghan allies The number of SIVs issued dropped by the hundreds. Iraqi SIVs fell from 557 in 2017 to 152 in 2019; the number of Afghan SIVs went from 4,120 in 2017 to 1,799 in 2020, as the number of applicants ballooned.
The processing time for Afghan SIV applicants in early 2021 reached 703 days. >


Whipple wrote that former White House press secretary [Jen Psaki ] told him that Biden “over the next couple of days ... just felt a deep, misunderstood sadness.” 

This goes to show you how much personal responsibility he takes into the decisions he makes. I'm glad we have a Commander in Chief like that. >

And he took responsibility for the withdrawal at the time, instead of blaming TFG, like he could have. >

We can go on and on about the good and the bad of any administration, but this is the best move any president has made in my lifetime and I will make sure I give it appropriate recognition.
And he knew the gravity of the situation - all the more credit
Well done. >

Trump made the deal/decision though, Biden followed through with it. >

Trump had four years to leave Afghanistan and Biden had every opportunity to stay. >

Obama had eight years to leave. >

Yes, he's also to blame. >

Bush started it, if you want someone to blame it is him. >

Francis Scott Key. The damn anthem is a call to war!!!! But the real culprit is god. No way to escape it since the Big Bang! >

Getting out of Afghanistan was always going to be a shit show considering trump intentionally left it as a minefield for Biden. trump didn't assist any Afghanis in leaving the country and the Biden admin helped evacuate over 100K people in a short period of time. There was no way of stopping a suicide bomber in the midst of that chaos. >

I tried explaining this to a coworker. He was like Biden didn't give a shit and said fuck all those people. Like if that had been Trump you would be singing a different tune. I said, "Well what about who made the deal in the first place?" The response, "Well Trump had a plan." To which I responded, "Oh like his Covid plan? Or medical care plan? Say he has it and does fuck all." These people will defend anything. >

Ok counterpoint.. Biden is commander in chief. Meaning he has the power to stop any military movement being the top ranking person in the military… 
 He had the power to stop the pullout when we realized the Taliban was taking the northern regions and we should have stopped when they were in bagram and forced them back out. But instead we left countless afghan allied forces and friends, my friends died for nothing over there and I spent years over there fighting with and helping the afghan people. All for a political stunt that backfired. 
 We should have stayed and armed the women, gotten rid of the older ANA generals and let the younger generation take control of the military because they had more to lose after living under western civilization for 20 years. And what gets me the most is that Americans are turning a blind eye to what’s happening over there and it’s a direct consequence of our actions. We should be forced to watch as thousands among innocents are starving and women are stripped of all their rights again… im disgusted that I ever served for American civilians for over 10 years I sacrificed everything because I believed in America. But after the fall of Afghanistan and how we treat those we swore to protect.. I hate it. >

Joe Biden has a conscience. He feels empathy for others and he has the ability to recognize mistakes and learn from them. That is a good thing. 
The Afghan withdrawal was set up for failure and there wasn't a hell of a lot that could be done about it, especially with the inaccurate intel he had available. Nonetheless, Biden took responsibility as the Commander in Chief. That's my President. >

Oh shit! What’s that called??? Hold on, I’m thinking… oh yeah, Empathy? >

I will throw thay orange turd one atom of a crumb.
Despite Trump setting it up to be chaotic.
I think it was a doomed pull out no matter who would of been president.
Shit isn't always easy. >

Maybe, but Trump also freed 5000 Taliban prisoners, so he actively made the situation worse. >

Yeah agreed.
If trump actually won a second term. Would he have even pulled out? 
Would we be bitching at how he fucked it up instead of the right bitching(in bad faith.) at Joe biden.
(Not trying to bother sides anything incase my post.sounds like it. More like shoe on other foot.) >

No, he would not have.  If the US had 4000 soldiers in the field we would have been able to maintain security on both airfields and the withdrawal would have gone much better.  We could have left on the original date, and the Taliban would have given Trump JUST enough time to pull out before snatching up everything.  The US forces Trump left for Biden were so weak and ineffective that they couldn't do anything, and the Taliban knew it. >

and I would've never lost not even one second of sleep, because I don't need to sleep at all really I'm in Perfect Health and Dr. Ronnie, he used to be your Doctor now he's your Congressman in the Great State of Texas, I love Texas, and he said my body is in Incredible Shape, he told me I was very Strong, very Youthful, and probably at Genius Levels, nobody's ever Aced the Presidential Test besides me, Obama wouldn't even take it and yet I got 100 Percent plus Bonus Points, nobody's ever seen it that good not even any of the Medical Doctors and Scientists around the World they couldn't believe it, "Sir, you're smarter than Albert Einstein and a lot better looking," I'm like the Robert Redford of smart people but the Fake News won't give me Credit for it.  they have a Museum just for George Washington's Wooden Teeth but the Radical Left won't even let me put up a Statue to honor America's Favorite President, which is you're thinking me I hope, and as I've said many times Promises Made Promises Kept.  you don't get that with Democrats, you only get Sadness and Defeat because they hate helping people and My Tax Plan, which was incredible by the way the numbers were through the roof but now they wanna take it all away, Sleepy Joe and the Democrats want to make your Taxes go up and the value of your Home go down.  we may as well be living in Mexico that's how bad it's gotten. >

There was no good way to leave Afghanistan. Period. Not his fault. >

I skip any political article that refers to "book" >

Well, gosh: maybe tRump should not have surrendered to the Taliban. >

The Afghan withdrawal was a shit sandwich the trump administration left that  Biden administration was forced to eat. >

Biden could and should have stopped it. As the commander in chief it’s his responsibility to listen to his generals and intelligence officers and make the best decision. Trump delayed the pullout and Biden should have too. The only reason Biden was “sleepless” was because it hurt his political image. 
  I deployed to Afghanistan in 09-10 and again in 12-13. He wants to play the victim in this and says it left him frustrated and sleepless… imagine how the people like me who lost friends, got injured, or made connections with afghan people just to see it all thrown away because of politics… now go look at Afghanistan. You can’t tell me that they are better off now then when we were there… they need real help and we turned our backs on them just like the American people and politicians turned your backs on the soldiers that served. >

The same generals and intelligence officers that had been lying about that situation for 20+ years? Fuck them they should have all been prosecuted. >

No reason it should.   The Afghan withdrawal went smoothly and as planned.
Biden extended the Trump surrender agreement to the Kaliban to give Afghans even more time and Taliban stuck to the agreement and didn't attack US troops.
The Afghans who flooded the airport were people who Biden had been given an extra six months to get out. They made a poor decision.  Many had actually gone back to Afghanistan and got caught by the totally predictable collapse of the US back warlords. Trump had long ago abandoned any Afghans employed by US.