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Okay and you do realize they make cheaper bikes? You can buy one at Walmart that will get you to work for 60 dollars.
Obviously if I'm talking about people needing bikes if they can't afford cars I'm not talking about folks riding around on these
I'm a bicyclist and would never ride more than a 3 person pack on a well travelled road that is shared with cars because the cars need to be able to get around us. I don't expect a car to travel 15mph just because they can't get around 5 cyclists that are spread out. As a matter of fact, most places it is illegal to ride in packs for that very reason and you aren't even supposed to be side-by-side. Courtesy goes both ways and cyclists and motorists need to work together. Nobody owns the road. >

And yet we’ve all seen packs of Bicycles clogging up the road. 
Quite frankly I don’t think it’s a good idea for 5,000lb SUVs going 55mph and 175lb cyclists going 15mph to be sharing any kind of road. >


they vandalize public roads with spray paint arrows and symbols to show their friends which way to go

Sounds like there was an organized cycling event. >

Agree but they need to abide by the road rules also or they loose that privilege. Also a little common sense goes a long way. >

As a commuter cyclist, fuck biking on such a road. My safety is more important than my chosen method of exercise. 
HOWEVER, this is why we need a push for separated bike lanes. 
You don't want me to bike where you drive.
I don't want you to drive where I bike. >

Exactly.
It's not the cyclists clogging up the road, it's the DRIVERS clogging up this world for everyone else. >

Every time this topic comes up, I'm reminded of the time I witnessed a pack of dudebros on their weekend social spandex ride attack an ambulance (lights and sirens blaring, mind you) for having the audacity to honk at them.
I mean how dare the EMTs feel the emergency patient they were transporting or rushing to was more important than their trust fund street gang. >

If the street is a hwy you cannot ride so slow as to impede traffic flow. Same rules as cars. > >

Sounds like you have a problem with your government not making cycle lanes >

Nope. Have a problem with government not banning this crap. Perhaps when a government official and their children are killed it will come up for a vote. >

So it's just government mandates that there be no free method of travel? Sounds dystopian >

Capitalism baby >

Where are the cyclists supposed to drive? Also if people drive like assholes and go into oncoming traffic that's not their fault >

People, like that UPS driver, as wrong as he was, have JOBS TO FINISH. Including your order - someday - possibly. So when you complain its late or its broken because he had to slam on the brakes and everything got crushed, you know why now. 
Where are they supposed to ride? I have no idea. You couldnt pay me enough money to put my body next to 55 MPH metal boxes going around blind turns and limited sight distance hills. These people are NOT SMART. >

You know some people can't afford cars? My city has zero public transportation, is spread out over like 5 miles, and has very little in the way of bike/pedestrian lanes. Should I just give up and die since I'm too poor to buy a new car? >


You realize that the cost of a high-end, new bicycle and the cost of a hoopty are about the same, right?