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Why is Germany sucking so hard rn?
"Rush". It's been a year. >

I'm a German and my strong gut instincts tell me that these are only stalling tactic and Scholz ultimately will say 'No'. Maybe Scholz tries to stall the process only until our new secretary of defense has taken his oath and afterwards Scholz will blame him for saying 'No'. Or maybe he thinks the war will stop soon or any other nonsense, I don't know. I really hate this rat on the throne!
Edit: Well, well, well, this weasel really found a way to shift the responsibility upon someone else again! Scholz is such a disgusting and honourless pest! >

German here too, with some insight (know people who work at the Bundeswehr).
He won't say no, he is stalling for time. Because there are not enough tanks in working order to give and/or working infrastructure to maintain them.
Rheinmetall already accelerated their process to get Leopards in working order, and can only deliver 15! in the third quarter of this year.
The most likely scenario is that some Leopards that are currently in maintenance (about 30) for Slovakia/Czech Republic are going to Ukraine.
The Bundeswehr really does not have many Tanks, something around 260, and not even half of them are in working order.
I hope that makes it clear why Scholz is stalling for time. The tanks have to be repaired/build first.
EDIT:
Habeck said yesterday that other countries can give Ukraine their tanks, but they are waiting for a green light from the Americans.
Because the Americans are deciding what Ukraine gets in the end.
Like it or not, but that is how the game is played currently. >

Former StUffz here, you are only partly right. Rheinmetall is telling the german Government they need that long. KMW, the main manufacturer of the Leopard, already said that they would need less than a month to get a Brigade Size Force of Leopards ready for transfer. Its a big lobbyism work and deals between Rheinmetall and the German Government. Germany could send around 60-80 tanks for sure, but only if new expensive contracts are signed again in Rheinmetall's Favor. The whole German Defense Apparat is a clusterfuck >

It should also be noted that adding Leopards into the mix will not suddenly solve Ukraine's problems. 
Sure, every engagement with a modern western tank against, Russian tanks, is probably a win, but they need 300 to archive something, no 30 they most likely will get over the coming months.
Likely, add the same number of western artillery systems on top of that.
And a shitload of other stuff, that they get far too slow.
Western politics is still trying very hard to avoid getting dragged into the conflict, while we could argue that we are already in it. >

I think the more scary realization is that Europe can’t scrape together a few tanks >

This is why sending the few Leopards they have is a bad idea.
Meanwhile, the US is sitting on a few thousand Abrams that can be brought into service relatively quickly. >

Abrams are not suited for Ukrainian environment. They're quite a bit heavier, and most Soviet era bridges were designed specifically to prevent heavy armor from traversing them. Literally every bridge is going to be a trap for them, and force them into super long and round about ways to get back to the conflict.
On top of that, while the turbine engine of the Abrams offers some worthwhile advantages over diesel engines in tanks, one critical disadvantage is they're a nightmare to maintain and work on. 
Leopard 2s have their issues, but they're light enough for Ukrainian infrastructure, and they're easy enough to work on. 
Plus, a good deal of the US' old Abrams in storage are at the M1 standard, which uses a 105mm rifled barrel, and I don't think ammo for that is even made anymore... >

Not to mention exactly zero Ukrainian maintenance crews are trained on how to maintain a turbine powered tank... There might be some commonality with, I dunno, rotary wing crews? I have no idea how similar a tank turbine engine is to a helicopter turbine engine, but it's probably an awful lot closer than a damned diesel engine.
Like I've worked on all kinds of cars and then a number of commercial vehicles - there's a lot of common "themes" as long as you know "the big picture" of what things do what where and then have experience with air systems, hydraulics, etc - if someone threw a turbine engine at me I'd have no idea of "what are the main components and what do they do" 🤷‍♂️ - even as a guy who's been a mechanic on and off my whole life, that's a pretty high hurdle unless someone ships a damned (well written) service manual with the tank lol. >

The turbine is not field maintainable. They basically work for a long time, and when they need maintenance, you swap in a new turbine, which is fast and straightforward, as the tank was designed with this in mind, and send the old one back to the manufacturer for overhaul. 
That part is a logistics strain, but they need much less maintenance than a diesel engine, owing to the fact that there is considerably fewer moving parts. >

What does he think will happen? Honestly, if he says no we need to know the actual things he thinks will happen. Not just, “it will escalate with Russia.”
Russia isn’t touching Germany and Russia can’t possibly escalate in Ukraine without WMDs, which are suicide and would not be used because Putin likes life and his cronies like money. >

Thats not the point
Hes just a politician, he doesnt care about murder or nazis
He just wants money
He does the least so russia doesnt get angry because he thinks then he can still make business with russia >

It’s kind of puzzling though. Let’s say it’s 2025 and Russia has been out of Ukraine for a year. Does Germany really want to get back in bed with Putin? >

After spending billions and billions on infrastructure changes? Sure... Because they are all delusional and adore Russia and ... shit.. wait... I accidently slipped into the insane propaganda pushed onto us on a daily basis for nearly 11 months now.
The actual answer is very obvious for everyone looking at the facts... so for maybe the 5% not affected by propaganda.induced brain-rot yet. >

Edgy >

Certainly no pressure on the Ukrainian side, take your time! >

I don't understand why Scholz is so reluctant to supply tanks to Ukraine.  His dragging feet will impact any Ukraine offensive to kick Russia out of country.
He stated on article he won't be rushed into decision but all it does is to make Germany look bad to the rest of NATO countries wanting quicker response. >

Did any other nato country supply them with tanks ? >

Plenty of tanks were supplied, from the new toys, only the UK did it. >

I looked up the Challenger 2s, what we call "new" stuff was actually designed 40 years ago lol. I'd assume they are still pretty effective but it took me by surprise that they were designed in 1986-1993. >

That's actually pretty common in military equipment. Most big stuff takes years and years to design and build, have several upgrades throughout their lifecycle, and so are designed to be operated for 50 years, sometimes more. >

The M1 Abrams is like on their 7th or 8th refresh at this point lol. >

Call me crazy, but he has a point. Do I think tanks will escalate the war more than artillery, APCs, IFVs, rifles and ammunition? Not really, but his point is still valid. Every decision should involve due process, not decided in the heat of the moment.
Talks about the decision are being held and I'm sure Ukraine will have their much-needed tanks soon (especially seeing as the UK has already pledged 12 Challenger IIs). >

Chancellor Treebeard >

Don't do Treebeard dirty like that. >

When Treebeard saw the extent of the problem he rallied his people to stand against it even though it likely meant their extinction >

Unless Bundeswehr is in even worse shape than they officially say, there is really no reason for the delay. >

The question isn't even with Bundeswehr, it's about Germany's permission to send Leopards for either country that's having them. So I guess Mr Scholz is bound to account all the possibilities and outcomes for his country. And let's not be a reddit assholes, Germany helps Ukraine a lot, like a lot lot. >

It helps, but it's been consistently slow on big ticket items, even from other countries (like say, Leo 2). At this point I don't even think there is any real threat of russian retaliation for sending modern equipment, Poland sent tanks half a year ago already and remains un-nuked. >

No one will be nuked, but russya still has some levers over the western countries, be it oil, ( Europa still buys it through India, i won't search for link, tired and drunk), or some rare earth metals, but something always kicks. So I'm all for fast forward tanks, patriots and all the dead-for-ruzzians tech and weapon, but every country and every government has the only priority - the wellbeing of their citizens ( sorry) , but anyway, guys need to think about next election or something >

I will say that Germany picking it's own short-term benefit (protection of own industry) is very on-brand for them. I still think it's stupid in long term, but that and general russophilia right until the war started still probably has effect on the politics. >

If he does say no to OTHER countries sending Leo2s... the backlash is going to be intense. >

He can't say no, just like he can't say yes. He doesn't have the power and never had. And in fact the whole govenment can't approve or deny any permit because it still doesn't exist out of propaganda narratives.
What should be intense is the backlash when those lying propagandists actually apply for an export permit for the very first time and get it approved as this proves it was all a lie for months. In reality they will just push the next fariy tale about how they bravely forced Germans to change their mind and everyone will gobble it up like a nice little brain-washed sheep... up to the next anti-german narrative starting about one daily later...
Rinse and repeat. >

It’s troubling that Germany only has 350 tanks… they had roughly 4,000 during the Cold War, they built around 25,000 during World War 2. Russia meanwhile still has around 10,000 tanks in reserve. Not all of those are modern but still…. 350 tanks isn’t enough to stop a full scale invasion by Russia.
Who even knows what Russias actually capability is in a total war. They are woefully underperforming in the first year of the Ukraine war but tides can change. >

Germany would not stand alone in all out war because of NATO. Even if german soil was attacked the german defenders would only make up a fraction of the whole force defending it. >

He sucks. I was mildly positive toward him when he took over after Angela, but he’s been a huge disappointment. Baebock ought to be Chancellor, she has more balls. >

In a way, yes, she says more balls-y things. But then, she's also not in power.
Remember how she was initially defending Julian Assange and even called Merkel's goverment cowards and now she remains silent or dodges questions when asked to comment on it. >

The thing is this decision needs to be made now. There are going to be major offensives in late March/early April when the weather clears and Ukraine needs that time to train on any potential new tanks. A decision in a few weeks could already be too late to use the tanks in some very important battles. >

There is no decision that needs to be made.
The decision if and when to send tanks was made a long time ago and probably discussed for ages between governments.
The decision to permit exports can't be made until someone actually applies for that permit. And they all categorically refuse.
So we will simply have to wait until everyone is finally ready and then we will publically pretend how they all bravely forced Germany to back down to announce common tank deliveries. In reality they could just have asked months ago... but reality doesn't matter in this post-factual world ruled by narratives. And Germans are used to being lied about. That's how the EU works for years. Always pretend everything popular was pushed against German resistence, while everything unpopular was forced through by evil Germans. And never let people enough time to think how their ability to block or force something through against a block magically wanes and waxes depending on what the narrative demands. >

I'm so sorry Scholz, the last thing Ukranians dying in this war want to do is rush you or make you uncomfortable in any way, please take your time >

His statement is so out of touch with reality, he sits in his warm home while hundreds die every single time the sun goes down. Just think, hundreds of people every single day, their only life, gone for good, and he is upset about being pressured? He needs to touch fucking grass. >

What statement would you expect instead?
"We can't decide anything because you fucking liars refuse to apply for an export permit to approve in the first place."? >

I would actually love for him to finally say "enough is enough", go in front of the press and call out every single one of these lying assholes by name. >

I don’t think there is much that I would ever agree on with hitler but “get German tanks into Ukraine faster” is definitely one of them. >

Dr. Scholz?
They make two products, shoe inserts and murder machines >

You know, I think they are partly stalling for strategic reason, after all if the West goes all in, so will Russia.
Also there is a debate within NATO going on behind the scenes, after all, all of NATO will be dragged into war if it escalates fully, not just UK and PL.
But there is another thing: Germany once had 4k tanks during the Cold War, it has less than 10% of that number now, for territorial defense. And there are maybe a hundred Leo1&2 in storage that will take almost a year to be ready. >

Considering his main argument for not doing it almost a year ago in terms of a feard reaction from Russia has been disproved via the other nations Inc UK already spending non Soviet era armor. I don't see what there is to think about.
But if he won't, Germany should re-evaluate the plea with old rules about re-arming via the 2300 Leo tanks other nations have in storage they don't use. >

I guess Biden has to make a phone call to Berlin once again.... >

Britain already made the escalation with the first shipment of tanks.  Get off your ass, it's already covered. >

I think they already moved the goalposts by saying they are waiting for the US to send tanks first. >

This sort of approach is likely why Poland may actually win big in the coming decades when it comes to tank exports. Since in addition to buying K2s, they are getting the technical package to build them, we might start seeing most of Europe rearm itself not with a next generation of Leopards but with Polish built K2 or K3s. >

Yeah. No.
For one, the K2 uses several german-made or designed parts. 
Two, the K2 is ultimately the same generation of tank as the Leopard. A later part of it, but ultimately the same.
Most of Europe already has Leopards. If they want more tanks, they'll just order additional ones. And if they want to replace them entirely, they'll go with something from the next-gen, and the only ones currently working on that are KMW/Nexter and General Dynamics. >

Note I included the next generation tank being planned, the K3. And countries in the east like Romania, Bulgaria, the Balkans can't exactly afford the western premium, especially not for tanks. So the cheaper good enough tank designed to work with the latest technologies to replace Soviet tanks may be quite attractive, especially if they also get the chance to build some of the parts. >

Bulgaria and romania are both in talks to acquire Leopard 2s already tho.
Slovakia & the Czechs already definitely will too, altho they get them for free in exchange for material supplied to Ukraine. >

Need a source for Romania as well. The Beretta ARX contract seemed a done deal and yet nothing happened. Leopards being "in talks" means nothing even if true. >

While Scholz fiddles, Ukraine burns. >


Ukraine burns.

There are about 30 other countries who could send help and instead point fingers at Germany, if you feel this urgency act instead of complain to pressure others to act. >

Come on Scholz 🇩🇪. Stop running around in circles with your tail between your legs! Pull the trigger, make a positive decision for Ukraine. 
Slava Ukraini 💙 💛 💙 💛 >

Putin still has a hold on Scholz's anal beads. >

Yes >

It’s okay Scholz, take your time. Ukraine is sooo sorry that they’re inconveniencing you so much. We know you’d prefer that Ukraine just surrendered so that you can go back to appeasing russia. >

And we would prefer to get any permit to actually approve instead of months of lies and propaganda about imaginary blocks. We also would prefer that "Shut up you fucking propagandists and finally ask for the permit instead of lying about it" would be acceptable speech internationally... yet it isn't.
So it stays at "We won't rush any decision" as they indeed are not able to legally take any decision about exports until someone finally applies for the permit. It's just that easy.
But as long as you have some Germans to hate you seem to be willing to gobble up any obvious ansd proven lie... so have fun with more moral outrage until countries magically manage to force the evil Germans to back down (by simply asking for the permit like they could have done for months). >

Omg, just send more tanks and as fast as possible >

Scholz wants to be seen to be doing something but not enough to undermine the Russian offensive. He's a reprehensible prick. >

I don’t understand why Germany keeps getting bashed online. It is the third largest contributor of aid (fourth of you count the EU) and tanks aren’t being delivered because they aren’t all in working condition and just throwing tanks somewhere without any equipment isn’t gonna do shit. >


People are extremely emotional.
People overestimate their understanding of extremely complex situations by rather dramatic amounts. >

Hahaha at this point people would blame him for many things, but "rushing" will not be one of them. >

Go ahead and complain about the "pressure"...meanwhile cities in Ukraine continue to get leveled and you get to go home at night, drink a beer, swallow some Cialis and sink your dink into some poor mistress.  Poor poor Scholz and his "pressure". >

And he is saying that standing there with a coffee and a bun in his hand smiling impish and making jokes afterwards >

Lol Scholz must be burning through shoes with all this feet dragging. >

sell 500 working abrahms to germany for $500. Germany states they are surplus to their needs. donates them to ukraine where there is an already established supply chain/maintenace chain for all the other American gear in Poland/Ukraine >

Yeah, let more people be raped, maimed, tortured and killed, as there's no rush...
What a fucking asshole!
And it's almost a year.
Germany has been extremele disappointing last year and now it's again and it even arrests climate activists.
Do they care about anything than their cozy life and money? >

This germany bashing starts to get absurd like holy shit >

Same people complaining about this are the people who berated France in 2003 for not supporting the Iraq War. >

Ironically a country that has a road with no speed limits is apparently slow as shit. >


Scholz complains about 'pressure' ~~to supply tanks to Ukraine, says he won't rush with decisions.~~ while Ukrainian civilians die at the hands of murderous Russian terrorists.  

Get your head out of your ass >

German politics are so god damn cringey. >

Could be a dark secret with him and russia. He says proud that we're on the third place with aid for Ukraine. But that's nothing you can be proud of if there are still people dying because you take your time with your decisions. PzH 2000 compare to Puma is the "bigger weapon" so sending Pumas doesn't change anything, we won't get sucked deeper in this war for it. it just helps Ukraine to get rid of these animals. Actually we're already so deep in it, that we should do anything we can to help Ukraine and let Russia bleed. People loosing their companys that they build over years. The hole world is bleeding by the Russian agression. It's time to fight back strong and fast, even if this just means to handle out material and Ukraine fights back. Give them everything they want and need and even more to get rid of these animals. I'm also ok if we give them that much that the hole world get rid of them. >

Ah yes. More pointless hate towards Germany. Gotta love brainrot comments.
There are plenty of reasons why this has not happened yet. Go read a fucking book >

germany has shown time and again its unwillingness and inability to serve anyone but itself. >

Germany is hardly an 'ally' even to itself. >

People are dying you fucking dumb selfish asshole >

Sure, no pressure, Russia’s just bombing kids on the daily. >

One single letter for every one of those kids and the application for an export permit would have been written...
And yet we are still waiting for it, with no legal way to approve anything without it. While you keep eating up propaganda and parroting narratives about bombed kids. >

It's so fucking appalling how many people are falling for this Russian propaganda just because Germany doesn't want to send tanks it doesn't have. Nevermind the gigantic amount of weaponry Germany ALREADY sent to Ukraine but noooo better blame your allies and cause discord just like the Russians want us to.
We already partially lost the UK with Brexit, almost lost France with Le Pen, and now you guys are still falling for this shit. >

Something smells. >

sorry, I haven't taken a bath yet >

Protest where he eats, works, sleeps, etc. Make it as close to hell as the Ukrainians are dealing with, without violence. Air raid horns would do wonders😉 >

What a dick >

This is a 4 day old article from before Lambrecht resigned. >

True we have all the time in the world! Its not like there are literally thousands of innocent lives at stake... /s >

Every minute you take is an innocent person dead. >

Why rush?  It's only thousands of human lives at stake. >

What do the Russians have on Germany lmao. Feels like there's a bunch of shit going on in the background between the two >

Scholz asks why do they even need then? He sees nothing. He knows nothing. >

Sargent Scholz? >

Scholz is such an embarrassment. I’m ashamed to be German >

I wonder how much money he gets from russia >

Does he not understand that the longer he continues to delay innocent people are dying every day? Russia has a prisoner army that is taking heavy losses and it’s the winter. Ukraine could use these tanks (and others) in a spring offensive and hope that this forces Russias hand to the negotiating table. >

This is possibly the last conflict where tanks could be effective - use em up >

He works for Putin, or I don’t know how to comment this rush. Rush, Carl. A year in war and he says about rush >

Not like there’s a war or anything going on >

This is growing just pathetic.  Just give them fucking tanks already.  What a fucking joke. >

History will be unkind to Germany >

As always, scholz holding everything up while Ukrainians pay the price. >

The question is... will Germany ever make a good decision when it comes to War? The last 100 years says no.
Good opportunity to turn that around here. >

The German and French position before and during the Iraq invasion in 2003 still looks pretty great to me to give one example. >

He's aiding Putin .. >

German Military Support Services Provided:
4 mine clearance tanks
 4 mobile and protected mine clearance devices
 95 border guard vehicles (previously: 85)
 168 field heaters (previously: 148)
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 67 refrigerators for medical supplies
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 4,000 shots of anti-aircraft tank practice ammunition
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 53,000 rounds of anti-aircraft ammunition
 20 laser target illuminators
 3,000 Panzerfaust 3 cartridges plus 900 grips
 14,900 anti-tank mines (of which 9,300 from an upgrade initiative)
 500 STINGER anti-aircraft missiles
 2,700 STRELA flying fists
 22 million rounds of handgun ammunition
 50 bunker fists
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 100,000 hand grenades
 5,300 explosive charges
 100,000 meters of detonating cord and 100,000 detonators
 350,000 detonators
 10 anti-drone cannons
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 28,000 combat helmets
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 7 jammers
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 2 pickup
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 vehicle decontamination point
 5,032 anti-tank handguns
 200 trucks commercial vehicles
 13 armored bridge-laying vehicles BIBER >

You’re missing the billions of $ given to Putin for his gas/oil >

I surprised that people have a shock about slow assiness of Germans. When you lose a sim-card they send you the new one in 2 months. We upgraded our internet speed-contract to a faster connection, we are waiting for almost 6 months. The waiting time for a results of an exam is around 1-2 months (language schools etc).
They make an oath over so called digitalization every year for almost 6-7 years :D. We are using a ticket system that had been used in World War II. When you have a cancer, doctors can say things like "drink lots of water and wear a thicker jacket" . They will make sure that the action is the "last" !
They think, they speak... Then, they think that they should think more and then they speak again.
It is so hard for them to say "yes we are taking actions" in any reasonable manner-matter even if the facts are there. This country is functioning like a Turtle. >

I keep realizing the German governments seem to be really pro-Russia overall. >

While i find Scholtz his restraint annoying and i get the frustration calling the German government Pro-Russian is fucking ridiculous.
Germany is supplying PzH2000, RCH155, Gepard, IRIST, Marder (took a fucking while tho) and countless other systems and vehicles. Moreover it has sent and contracted vehicles to other nations as replacements for soviet compatible vehicles which were sent to Ukraine. >

What exactly is preventing Germany from saying yes? >

What an asshat >

June, July or a bit later when the weather will be suitable for a vacation is the perfect time for Germany to take a yes / no decision. Why hurry, it’s not like we have a major war in Europe with 10k dead / month. >

That’s the problem with war. All this damn pressure. If only it were more mellow. More of a relaxed pace kind of war would be nice. >

Germany is a weak county with a weak military that refuses to commit it's fair share to nato. >

Time for US to simply send Abramses, despite their alleged fuel consumption issues. Germany is willing to be friends with Putin. >

No bro they run on jet engines and would cost way too much to upkeep >

Not all turbine engines are jet engines. And not, not so much, compared to losing the war. >

Also T-80s use gas turbines, so it's not like Ukrainians are completely unfamiliar with the tech. >

Yeah maybe russia sells oil over kasachstan to germany, maybe germany too scary to lost russian oil. >

Fuck Scholz and all the other Russiaphiles, cowards, appeasers, and corrupt leaders in the EU.
It boggles the mind how the US is more invested in defending Europe from Russia than many Western European countries. 
Fuck these "good for nothing freeloaders". Ukraine deserves to be in NATO more than Germany >

Yeah one thing the US has going for it with Ukraine is that the american political class doesn't have deep russian business ties.  A few do, but it's not the norm.  But in europe basically every right wing politician is connected to russia somehow, and almost all the business elite are all tangled up with russian trade and money. >

The only 'pressure' he needs to really take care right  now is that from Nordstream. >

Ukraine will remember this. >

Weird. I thought Scholz always rushed to the same decision when it came to supplying Ukraine with weapons: to procrastinate as much as possible. >

Funny, plenty of people on here were downvoting comments that suggested Germany were dragging their feet. >

I guess the Russians got to Scholz. Fuck >

No rush,  it's only the Ukrainians dying and having their country invaded by the Soviets. >

Dude we just want you to actually make a decision >

Germany has been a parasite feeding of NATO for decades now, and it shows. >

Merkel not letting him? They shared the bribes? >

“Rush”?! Are you freaking kidding me?! It’s been a year! While he makes his “decision” which is most likely he procrastinating because he belongs to Russia he is not even a boss in his own country help would be already there. Then he better not complain when putin will occupy him physically. They already occupy Germany under other things. Don’t forget it was Germany a nazi not Ukraine! They OWE Ukraine and GERMANY NEVER APLOGIZED FOR KILLING MILLIONS IN UKRAINE NOT JUST STALIN KILLED UKRAINIANS, Hitler did too! If POLAND PRESIDENT IS B O S S IN HIS COUNTRY HE ACTS ACCORDINGLY AND SHOLZ ONLY TRYING TO INCREASE PRICE TAG ON HIS NAME AND ALSO BY WITHHOLDING HELP because putin told him so! He is so disgusting 🤮 >

Quit Complaining and get on with it! >

I hope he will remain strong enough to say No.
Nothing good will come from supplying more weapons and escalating the conflict.
NATO / US need to give up their goal to undermine Russia and raise the expectation to both Russia and Ukraine to seek a diplomatic solution back to peace. >

Germany and France should be ashamed of how they have responded to this war.