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Before 2030, unless something changes to calm the fundamentalist Christians.  The 2024 election will the election that decides if the USA makes it to 2030 as a single country.
The GOP should know they will never win playing this game.  Especially after increasing the debt limit 3 x under Trump. >

I think you underestimate how much the republican base wants the government shut down. Granted, they don't understand the repercussions, but if they actually shut it down, they'll be celebrated as heroes. And honestly I think the current system is so broken, that part of me just wants them to bring it all crashing down. Maybe we will manage to build something better from the rubble. Or not. Either way, the current system is broken and dangerous and we need to do something about it. >

Defaulting on the debt would essentially, collapse the value of the dollar, drive inflation to new highs, and sink the US economy into a severe depression.  It's not like a budget fight shutdown.  It would actually damage people's lives for decades. >


It would actually damage people's lives for decades.

And it'd all be the dems fault for not doing exactly what the reps want
I.mean it's the dems fault because drugs/furries/scary brown people/ insert current boogeyman >

And honestly fuck those people because they'll never listen. >

“Hey gang, we have a formality that can cripple our economy for an entire generation if ignored. Let’s use this opportunity to sabotage the party in the Whitehouse in front of everyone”
Said no sane person ever. >

There's the kicker. There are non sane people that want this. >

Genuine question: how fucked does the political situation have to get before the whole system crashes under its own weight and the USA breaks down into a loose collection of warring factions? A proper default deems like the kind of thing that would serve as a perfect trigger in times gone by.