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Remember that whole Faux "News" line that forcing him to testify in some other case wasn't fair because it was all a devious 'perjury trap' set by evil Democrats determined to bring down the One True Leader? And then there was that one commentator who was like, "Couldn't -- couldn't he just not lie?" and the whole set just like froze.
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Edit: the one I'm thinking of was during the Mueller investigation, and there was a panel of like six people. One of them was a younger woman, and she's the one that said it. There was a bunch of people speaking at the same time and she said something like, "Why - why couldn't he just not lie? Why can't the President just - not lie?" And the entire set went silent while she was talking and you could really hear the second half very clearly. And the clip I saw, absolutely no one had a response for her. Because clearly he was completely incapable of telling the truth, and absolutely everyone on set clearly knew that. Mfw she says the quiet part out loud.
In his deposition, Trump actually said that E Jean Caroll said she "liked" being raped by Trump in an interview with Anderson Cooper. Wallace then played the interview and (shockingly) Caroll said no such thing. >

Trump claimed woman who accused him of sexual assault in a luxury department store said 'rape was sexy' and 'indicated that she loved it'

Former President Donald Trump claimed that E. Jean Carroll, who has accused him of sexual assault, said that "rape was sexy" and "indicated that she loved it" when he was deposed in connection to her defamation lawsuit in October.
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan unsealed a portion of Trump's deposition on Friday after his lawyers lost a bid to keep them private. 
"She actually indicated that she loved it. Okay? She loved it until the commercial break. In fact, I think she said it was sexy, didn't she? She said it was very sexy to be raped," Trump said.
Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan then asked the former president: "So, sir, I just want to confirm: It's your testimony that E. Jean Carroll said that she loved being sexually assaulted by you?"
He responded: "Well, based on her interview with Anderson Cooper, I believe that's what took place."

Don’t worry. His supporters won’t be fazed* at all. I doubt most of them can even read. >

Unable or unwilling.  It took less than 70 seconds to read both of Comey's memos about Clinton as a primary source.  
The net effect of reading both should have been that you'd have greater confidence that she didn't do anything that bad.  The fact that the memos coming out had the opposite effect tells you everything you need to know about Trump voters. >

rEaD tHe TrAnScRiPtS!!!
Did you read the transcripts? 
wElL nO. bUt AlL tHe InFoRmAtIoN iS tHeRe! >

Reminds me of Jordan Klepper from the Daily Show >

That is where the quote is from. >

That's why it reminded them of it. >

I get this experience quite a lot.   Stuff is always reminding me of what it is because of how it is exactly like the thing that it in fact is.  
I saw a cat the other day and I immediately thought to myself, “cat”.   Then I was sitting there looking at it for another millisecond and I thought to myself, “That looks so much like my cat!”  Turns out, it looked so much like my cat because it was my cat and my cat always looks so much like herself, it’s uncanny.  She quite often reminds me of her when I look at her.  
The brain is such an amazing muscle. >

That's a fantastic story. Thanks for relaying it. >

Even before that. I recall an interview with Penn Jillette on Joe Rogan (way back before Joe went crazy) and Penn was talking about his experience on the apprentice and how Trump would incoherently ramble on forever. >

I enjoy how Trump hates Penn because he didn't play along and kiss his ass like the majority of the people on Apprentice. >

Lost to Trace despite selling more ice cream in a sell the ice cream challenge. 
Love Penn's stories about that show honestly. Like Penn would sing Hey Jude whenever he didn't want them to air something. Some producer tried to tell him "hey Penn we can't use the audio if you're signing that" another producer had to tell that one. "He knows that! That's why he's doing it"
Other stories I've heard are from Adam carolla who was fired because his team had lost and despite him personally doing a great job and impressing the brand partner for the episode. They had to add Ivanka voice lines in post for it to make sense that they fired him. >

Where did you find this stuff? >

Penn's Sunday School podcast. >

Exactly he discussed pretty much every episode of the show and I would say nearly every interaction he had with trump. 
Idk if these are available anymore for free or even for a fee. I think that's a Patreon perk maybe. 
Off hand I think Penn and Donald got along well enough that Penn crowd funded a movie on Trump's crowd funding site that he was the face of. >

The depo transcript is nuttier than a jar of peanut butter.
The transcript opens with Carroll's testimony. Trump's testimony starts on page 15 of 48 (numbered page 125). A few examples:

Trump: Now, like everyone else, she gets paid by a radical, left-leaning publisher to say bad and untrue things."
Carroll's Attorney: Do you know who her publisher was?
Trump: No. I just heard it was a publisher that did some very bad books on us.

Carroll's Attorney: And as of today, you have approximately four million followers on Truth Social?
Trump: I don't know the number. I know Truth Social is doing very well. I think it was number one ahead of TikTok, number one ahead of Twitter, number one ahead of Instagram and everyone else for the last number of days. I just noticed that. Somebody put it on my desk. They have the ratings, and they said Truth Social is hot.

Carroll's Attorney: Why did you decide to issue the statement on Truth Social on October 12th?
Trump: Because I was offended at this woman's lie. Because I was offended that she could just make up a story out of cold air, refuted by her testimony on CNN, but that she could make up a story just out of nowhere and that I get a phone call asking me about this ridiculous situation. The woman -- there's something wrong with her in my opinion. Okay. But it's a false accusation. Never happened, never would happen. And I posted and I will continue to post until such time as -- and then I will sue her after this is over, and that's the thing I really look forward to doing. And I'll sue you too because this is -- how many cases do you have? Many, many cases, and I know the statements that were made -- that you made. Keep Trump busy because this is the way you defeat him, to keep him busy with litigation. So I will be suing you also, but I'll be suing her very strongly as soon as this case ends. But I'll be suing you also. 
Carroll's Attorney: Are you done?
Trump: Yeah. >

Suing her strongly- LOL. >

Strumming her pain with his fingers. >

Stringing the right with his words. >

Trumping her softly with his con…. >

Subpaena her softly... with his con... >

Grabing her softly by her pussy >

One time! >

I would've be more surprised if it was 

Donald Trump "caught telling the truth" during deposition >

That would imply that his lips did not move. >

Stop talking about his ass >

I wasn't talking about his ass, I was talking about his lips.
Though, I can see where you might make a mistake in recognizing which was which. >

God why did I click. >

It looks like an anus with bad hemorrhoids? >


It ~~looks~~ talks like an anus with bad hemorrhoids? >

Cannot unsee now....thanks >

Serious question for the legal minds here- Are there any real repercussions/consequences for lying during a deposition? >

Usually no. You could be charged with perjury. But that's really rare when that happens and usually reserved for poor people and regular folk - not rich assholes. 
What's more likely is the judge in the case will see that the person lies a lot and completely discount what they say and be more inclined to believe what the other party is saying.
The real problem for Trump is the possibility of losing the civil case and having to deal with exactly zero consequences since he'll be long dead before any verdict winds its way through exhaustive appeals. >

Thank you for your reply! It is most helpful! >

Only in his deposition?    The only thing the man has never lied about in his life is being erotically attracted to his own daughter. >

Didn't his lawyers try to get him out of testimony on the grounds that he is "fundamentally incapable of being truthful" or something to that effect? >

His own lawyers literally argued to Mueller's team that he should not be required to testify because his lying is so out of control that it qualifis as a mental disability. >

So he was talking. >

Like he was trying to hide it or something. >

Like he was trying to imitate George Santos or something else. >

George Santos took a page directly from trumps playbook.  problem is not enough know or care about Santos to actually buy into his wildly far fetched lies. >

well he did get elected so...  apparently enough people bought into it. >

But his donors wrote a letter that they were disappointed in his conduct, so ya' know.... there's that. >

I just want to see him extradited in cuffs. >

"For the record, will you state your name..."   
"David Dennison" >

"Carolin Gallego"
"John Barron"
"John Miller"
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(so it's really funny when these people jumped on Romney for having a twitter account named Pierre Delecto that had made a total of like 10 tweets in 7 years or something like that, and not for personal gain). >

OK but the name Pierre Delecto is hilarious. I am just imagining Romney writing fan fic with "Pierre" being a thinly-veiled stand in for himself. >

Have you heard about Carlos Danger? >

Or Ron Mexico >

He also basically admitted to raping Jean Caroll. 
From WaPo:
““She actually indicated that she loved it. Okay?” Trump said in the deposition. “In fact, I think she said it was sexy, didn’t she? She said it was very sexy to be raped.”
Kaplan then asked: “So, sir, I just want to confirm: It’s your testimony that E. Jean Carroll said that she loved being sexually assaulted by you?”
And Trump answered: “Well, based on her interview with Anderson Cooper, I believe that’s what took place.” >

How stupid is he? >

Extremely stupid. Just when you think he can’t be any more stupid, he opens his mouth and proves you wrong all over again. >

His presidency was exactly like that for me, every other day I would be astonished all over again. >

I'm still astonished daily by his followers. There are still millions of people believing his daily nonsense... despite literally 50,000+ lies since he took office in 2016. >

So he lied in a deposition.  Was it sworn? If it was sworn, wasn't that perjury? >

Yes, it was under oath >

This is why he's mentally unfit.
Even before he took office, Donald Trump is pathologically incapable of not lying.
He doesn't lie like a psycopath like DeSantis would: strategically, for their own personal gain.
He lies uncontrollably.  Many, many lawyers have tried to coach him on giving sworn testimony.  There are plenty of ways to skate around the truth, to obfuscate it and work around perjury laws.
John Dowd, his lawyer when Trump was President, actually went to Mueller during the Mueller investigation beggining him not to make Trump testify, because Donald Trump was so stupid that if he testified and it was clear he couldn't even lie competently under oath to save himself form jail, if it was revealed to America's enemies how stupid Trump was, it would constitute a national security risk.
Please understand, I'm not editorializing here.  That's literally the argument his own lawyer made (from the source above):

Dowd then explained to Mueller and Quarles why he was trying to keep the president from testifying: “I’m not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript, because everything leaks in Washington, and the guys overseas are going to say, ‘I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for?’ ”

Trump's own lawyer is arguing - an argument that is difficult to contradict - that if America's enemies realize that Trump's media persona isn't a persona, and that this person is too stupid and emotionally crippled to stop pointlessly lying and self-incriminating while under oath in a federal DOJ investigation, that they will realize America is without a functioning executive and perhaps make moves.
But even worse: Trump is completely delusional.  He is incapable of even admitting that he cannot stop lying.  He genuinely believes he would "ace" interviews with seasoned prosecutors. That's how desperately broken he is.  He is completely and irreversibly detached from reality. Which is clear in his exchange with Dowd about said testimony:

Later that month, Dowd told Trump: “Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”
But Trump, concerned about the optics of a president refusing to testify and convinced that he could handle Mueller’s questions, had by then decided otherwise.
“I’ll be a real good witness,” Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward.
“You are not a good witness,” Dowd replied. “Mr. President, I’m afraid I just can’t help you.”

Let us be very clear: within the first four minutes of testifying under oath with a first year law student - nevermind a grizzled verteran like Robert Mueller and his team - their questioning would have Trump perjuring himself six different times while inadvertently confessing to a dozen other crimes he cannot understand are crimes.  He would be obliterated.
Donald Trump can't do it.  He can't do it to save his own life.  He is deeply, deeply damaged.  His narcissism is so profound he lives beyond delusion.  He lives in a world where if he says it, it must be true.  He can't fathom an alternative.  He literally can't.
This happens when pathological narcissists are raised without consequence and never need to emotoinally mature.  Trump lies like a child would.  He doesn't think of the consequences or benefits of a lie.  Many of his lies actively harm him more than the truth would.  It doesn't matter.  He's not mentally capable of doing those calculations.
If you want clear, obviously, and absolutely gut-busting hillarious proof of the fact that Donald Trump cannot stop lying even when its catastrophic for him to do so, my favorite example is him lying on Chris Wallace's Fox show about "acing" his dementia test
Trump was compelled to take a dementia test, mostly because of how frequently he acted like someone with a degenerative brain disease.
But, instead of just minimizing this as a "routine health checkup" that he "passed with flying colors" - which may very well have actually been the truth, Donald Trump went on live TV and continually challenged Wallace about how difficult the test was, and how much he "aced" it, and how the doctors told him he had scored very well.
He couldn't just brush it off, which would have been the politically strategic thing to do.  No, he had to lie, and he had to fabricate a world in which he did the best on his dementia test that anyone ever did.  He had to say it was a really hard test, and insist that anyone would have found it hard, despite the fact it is literally designed to be impossible to fail unless you have dementia.  It's a diagnostic test, not the SATs.
There was no need for him to tell this lie.  It wasn't preplanned by strategists.  It didn't serve some greater purpose.  It was just the lie of an emotionally stunded man-child.  No one was pressing him about it.  He got defensive, and so he crafted a complete and total delusion, and he persisted with that delusion, despite the fact it did damage to his reputation and was humiliating and without any benefit to him.
Donald Trump went on live TV, airing in front of tens of millions of people, and argued with Chris Wallace that a test which asked him to identify a picture of an elephant was "really difficult".
He argued that.  Vehemently.  Chris Wallace is a stalwart Republican.  He wasn't trying to pull a "gotcha".  Just look at his face as he's arguing with POTUS about the difficulty of a test that asks him to identify animal shapes.  He almost cannot believe what he's experiencing is real life.
This is who he is.  He's irreversibly broken, and deeply pathologically disturbed.  It is horrifying that he ever got within a million miles of any elected office, never mind the fact he served in that office for a four agonizing years. >

My go-to example for Trump's compulsive narcissism has always been to talk about the rumors of dementia.
I'd point out that there was an infamous incident in which he told reporters to wave to Melania-- while Melania was quite visibly not there (if memory serves, he was pointing at a bush). I'd point out that Trump often struggles to read his speeches, and has to go off-script. That the typos on his Twitter account (and his insistence that they weren't actually typos at all) were all indicative of the sort of combativeness you see in early-stage Alzheimer's.... but you know what? There is a much simpler explanation for all of this:
He is blind as a fucking bat, but refuses to wear glasses because they make him look like a nerd. His words, not mine.
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But here's the thing-- I don't want a President who-- IN THE MOST CHARITABLE INTERPRETATION POSSIBLE-- refuses to wear glasses the same way a three year old refuses to wear a sweater when it's cold out.
That's the thing that blows my mind about Donald Trump - much of his behavior is, LITERALLY, indefensible. He does and says so much for which there are no good explanations, only less-bad ones. 
And yet, conservatives lapped it up. He was their god-Emperor Trump. He could never do anything wrong, ever. They want to talk about Biden being an old forgetful man, but were all too happy to literally worship a President for whom his Press Secretary once had to clarify, on the record, that "the President can read" because that was a thing people doubted for awhile. >

If I am not mistaken, I believe there was an English teacher that went over how Trump is probably just barely literate because of how he messes up his speaches. He doesn't reword the sentence or what it says to something that is similar to what is actually written, like someone who is very literate, but instead just throws in a word that sounds similar. Or just skips it, making what he says nonsensical.
I don't have it on hand but the copy-pasta of his comments about nuclear power are almost pure word salad, but as someone who has had to make sense of people's word salad I am also somewhat annoyed that I can still actually understand it. He's basically saying that he's an expert on nuclear power because his uncle worked with it and talked to him about it. So, of course he knows everything there is to know about it. Because his uncle understood it so he does. Also all of his stories are about people praising him and how smart and excellent he is. It's like listening to a toddler talk about dinosaurs, except instead of some field trip to a museum it's an old man that holds the powers of the president... Those were a very strange 4 years... >

found it for ya. Glad ya mentioned it, cause I had never heard it before and it was a good chuckle reading through it. Glad we’re past those four years. >

I think the one he meant was the "It rammed the ramparts. It took over the airports." quote in his 4th of july speech about the revolutionary war. A teacher on reddit noticed a line further down ( I don't remember exactly) and mentioned that it was common when poor readers are asked to read to the class. They get a word here and there, then try to guess the rest, often losing their place.
Found it.
"Keeping all that in mind, let's look at what he said:
Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.
Based on my experience, here's what I think happened, step by step.
Our army manned the air
Here I think it's likely that Trump skipped a line on his teleprompter. The line was probably "manned the ramparts," and later on I'm guessing there was a reference to "bombs bursting in air." We all do this sometimes, but struggling readers do it a whole lot more. And furthermore, when a proficient reader makes this mistake they can quickly self-correct, but someone like Trump, who is not totally processing the meaning of what he is reading, can get totally derailed when they do this.
it rammed the ramparts
Trump seems to have noticed that "manned the air" was a mistake, and he went back to do the line over. But he got "manned" and "ramparts" mixed up, so it came out as "rammed." But he's immediately fallen into another pit: the word "ramparts." He doesn't know what it means. It's a very uncommon word that most Americans only know from this line in "The Star Spangled Banner." Trump, however, doesn't even know that, since he has never learned the words to the song. So I think that at this point, already a little flustered from covering up his last mistake, he thinks he has mis-read another word. "Ramparts?" I must have misread something, he thinks to himself.
it took over the airports
This is a repair strategy that Trump has used in the past. Mess up a word? Pretend it was the first in a sequence of rhyming or similar words and carry on from there. What's a word he knows that sounds like ramparts? Airports. And "air" was already on his mind from just before, when he accidentally read "manned the air." So they manned the ramparts, they took over the airports. He's hoping that nobody will notice. It's worked before.
it did everything it had to do
This sounds like an impromptu comment that he inserted into the written text. It uses the simple and non-specific language that he is known for in his impromptu speeches. The comment bought him a second where he could find his place after getting completely lost before. 
and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory." >

I am impressed you found this one. This is indeed the comment about his reading abilities that I was referring to. Many thanks. >

My reply was deleted for mentioning the original poster by username, so my edited reply is... 
I remembered it was a r/bestof,   so I googled "reddit r/bestof analysis of trump speech". That gave to me third down. Then I searched the username and sorted by top all time. >


My reply was deleted for mentioning the original poster by username,

Isn't it fun when mods just make up rules that aren't listed in the comment rules clearly linked in the sidebar? >

Jesus Christ, the transcript for this has some real word salad. I know this idiot's mental decline has been going on for a while, but he's gotten so incoherent. >

Lol god, I mean to just skim through it a bit but ended up reading a bunch.  The part where Trump is rambling on about suing Carol and suing the people giving the deposition and all that shit and they're just like "....are you done?" lol >

For normal people, this would be considered perjury and we'd find ourselves in prison. Trump is making sure everyone in the world knows without question that there are two justice systems in the United States. >

Telling lies and perjury have overlap but it's not 100%. In order to assert perjury, you have to prove that ~~the thing they said is false and~~ that they knew it was false when they said it.
Tragically just being incompetent when you lie under oath is kind of a useful defense. >

One commits perjury when, under oath, one submits as true any material information that they do not believe to be true. 

(1) Having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or (2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true

So to convict someone of perjury you do not need to prove the thing they said is false. If it can be proven that they, under oath, attempted to lie about a material fact then they have committed perjury even if that attempted lie ends up being the actual truth. >

Say a lie intentionally? Jail.
Unintentionally say something truthful? Believe it or not also jail. >

I think in this case it’s important to point out that the core of a lie is the liars intent to deceive. >

Is he going to go to trial in April? Is he?
I hate this so much, consequences don't exist (if you're rich) >

The trial would just be civil so the only consequence would be taking some of his money. No real consequences >

Donald Trump has been caught in repeated lies since he learned to talk.  To him falsehoods are as natural as breathing.  Insults as natural as eating.  His ruminations remind me of the end result of eating.