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Completely agree... I've been saying this for a while. The fallout will still be epicly bad on the interim, but when the time comes Biden should have an EO ready that directs the Treasury to pay the debt in accordance with the 14th amendment. Failing that, mint the trillion dollar coin. 
Republicans WANT failure. They thrive off of it because they get to pont at it and say "look how bad it's gotten! (because of us!) Elect us!" All stops need to be pulled out to ensure the orderly operation of the federal government by those who would serve to sabotage it intentionally.
I hate how they pretend to care about the national debt. Is there anyone left who believes this scam? >

The same people who believe trickle down and that by bringing in less money and increasing spending can reduce the deficit.  It's getting to the point where you have to be old to remember any time republicans might have cared about the budget. You would have to go back to before Reagan to find a republican who didn't explode the deficit. So I would assume that 90% of people who believe republicans care about the deficit are older. It's kind of hard to convince 30 and 40 year olds that republicans are good for the deficit despite republicans never reducing the deficits when in power once in our lives. >

I looked it up once and if my reading of the particular chart I was reading was correct.  I believe Eisenhower was the last Republican president who had a deficit leaving office lower than the deficit they came into office with.  Which makes sense, he's the last Republican I would have voted for >

I wasn't sure if it was Eisenhower but I knew it was pre Reagan. If Eisenhower were to run today supporting strong labor unions, and speaking against the military industrial complex like he did, he would be a dem. it's crazy that a republican from the 50s was more for labor unions, and against military spending than either party is today. The country has shifted so far right in the last 70 years it's hard to even recognize the post war 1950s society compared to today. >

Eisenhower wasn’t against military spending, he just famously condemned the industry, despite helping to shovel the majority of our national spending into that area. Eisenhower wasn’t nearly as bad as modern GOP but he wasn’t a saint just for his one quote against the MIC >

$5 bet Boebert and Gaetz use their sought after, special house rules to oust the speaker, with the help of a few buddies, the moment a bipartisan agreement is reached on the debt ceiling. >

They don't have to even do it, just threaten they will. >


They don't have to even do it, just threaten they will.

Very true. Apparently, the fed maybe able to go to the courts and get the debt ceiling declared unconstitutional. I honestly think they should do this and then mint the coin. >

mint the trillion coin >

Why do we only hear about the Debt Ceiling when Republicans are in charge of something? I feel like there's a trend but I just cannot put my finger on it... >

The GOP plan is to hold the debt ceiling hostage in exchange for "balancing the budget" by eliminating domestic spending, including what little safety net we have. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted student loans to be paid in full on a shortened timeline under threat of penalty. The plan really is to have a massive underclass living constantly under the shadow of poverty and thereby deprive us of what power and dignity we have as humans in exchange for living like dictators protected by oligarchs, foreign interests, and megacorporations. >

In regards to student loans, I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans somehow were able to force those with the loans to pay back all the months from the pause in full. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if they bring back debtors prison or work houses. >

Congress, world-renowned for its speedy problem-solving, has only a few months at best to figure out a solution to the crisis they keep creating. >

This is where, I swear, Dems get outplayed by the GOP in "playing" politics.
Biden should say, even if it wont happen, that he's directed WH legal counsel to look into whether he can simply ignore the debt ceiling because of the 14th Amendment. Or that he'll just order the Treasury to print coins to cover the debt.
They need to stop actually letting the GOP use the debt ceiling as a way to demand things and just ignore them. Tell the public that while the GOP are trying to crash the economy and make cuts to things people actually want and use, the Dems are looking at ways to actually govern and pay for things Congress already approved. >

Perhaps the reason he isn't doing this is he wants to let them threaten to tank the US (and world?) economies, and wants them to get coverage that that's what they're threatening to do, in hopes it will turn voters against the GOP. If he just laughed at them and said their threats wouldn't work, it could let voters stay apathetic and give them a false sense of security that there's no danger from the GOP, even if there, in fact, is no danger in this particular scenario.
Telling people the GOP is a threat doesn't work. Not enough people believe it, or they look at Republicans calling Democrats threats and think it's just normal political discourse, that both sides are lying about the other. I think it may be about showing people the GOP is irresponsible, letting them draw their own conclusions, giving the GOP enough rope to hang themselves. >

I have no confidence in Congress to avoid driving full speed off the cliff here. Come to think of it, I really don't have confidence in them to do anything. >

Not doing anything is, in fact, driving full speed off the cliff. >

What exactly would happen if the debt ceiling time bomb does “explode”? >

Society reverts back to the Stone Age >

I figured it had to be something along those lines the way the keep ringing the bell of doom. >


To recap: The debt ceiling is the limit for the federal debt, including both publicly held debt and debt held by government agencies. Unless the limit is lifted through legislative action, the Treasury Department will not be able to borrow any more money to cover spending already approved by Congress. Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize new spending.

Raise the debt ceiling and do your jobs by legislating. Pass bills to fund these programs or make cuts that way. >

I say just let it explode. America in it's current form sucks. We need fundamental reform, and maybe the best way to do that is by blowing everything up first. >

No.
The Constitution of the United States of America specifically laid the path for change through Constitutional Amendments. We can get fundamental reform, it's just an effort everybody decided was hopeless so nobody will even bother trying.

Abolish the Senate? Amendment.  
Ranked Choice Voting? Amendment.  
Ban Gerrymandering? Amendment.

The Constitution is the Highest Law of the Land. It gave us the tools we need to make America what it should be, and poor, everyday Americans who will lose everything if Republicans destroy the Country shouldn't have to pay that price if we don't need to. >

The debt ceiling already has an amendment. It says "the public debt of the United States shall not be questioned". Because Congress didn't want Southerners (after the Civil War) to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip.
You know, exactly like the GOP has done and continues to do. >

That's why I maintain Biden should literally ignore them. 
Republicans are literally trying to to question the public debt, it's unconstitutional.