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"Now they are coming for your stove!" "Enough is enough"
Good initiative but there are lots of rural and poor communities who still use this, so this agency should take steps to help them find alternatives >


However, Biden’s landmark Inflation Reduction Act includes a rebate of up to $840 for an electric stove or other electric appliances, and up to an $500 to help cover the costs of converting to electric from gas. >

Does that include induction cooktops? I mean, its electric still but coil stove heat sucks. >

Googled and found this.

If you qualify for the full rebate, you could save $840 on a new electric or induction stove, and up to an additional $500 if you are switching from gas or propane. That means, depending on the model you go with, you could get a brand new induction or electric stove for as little as just a couple hundred dollars. >

Well, this raises questions. Restaurants? Backyard gas grills? Gas water heaters? Gas dryers? Gas central units? >

Long term questions for sure. Of course disingenuous GOP types will frame it as an imminent threat to freedom! >

I’m not Republican, but I sure enjoy cooking on a gas stove. I hear they simply need to apply some sort of emissions control, not ban the sale thereof. >

I'd assume any ban would apply to new construction and multi decade phasing out in older homes with mitigation requirements in the short term. Eventually we'll transition to clean electric all around, but probably not in my life time... >

It would create a shortage and prices would escalate. I compare it to manual transmissions in cars. Because of EVs, manufacturers began to drop the manual transmission option in ICE powered cars. Well, once the public figured that out demand skyrocketed for cars with manual transmissions and prices too. Most people in the US preference an automatic, but in other countries manuals are much more popular. I see the same happening with gas ranges. Professionals prefer cooking with a gas range as does most anybody that loves to cook. Gas ranges are far more popular than manual transmissions, so the manufacturers will probably come up with some sort of emissions control. >

Reminder that gas companies pay a lot of money to spread pro-gas/anti-electric/induction propaganda. That includes fake social media accounts, paying chefs, the whole nine yards. >

Yup, I remember a few years ago PG&E got in trouble for it >

This is incredibly short-sighted.  We just had a blizzard and my power was out for two days.  I hooked up a portable generator and was able to heat my house, take showers, and cook meals because I have gas appliances.  Our power infrastructure needs to become a lot more reliable before I can get behind any efforts to phase out NG. >

It's just like the push for EVs most of the older grids in the US cannot handle the load. Also EVs kinda suck in colder climates just due to the cold. >

The grid can handle L2 chargers at basically every house just fine with zero changes.
Multiple ones per house may be a challenge, but it’s mostly manageable using DR on the local “grid” level (we call it distribution) and more generation/transmission hardening on the transmission level. >

Induction is the way >

My wife and I recently moved from a house with a gas stove (and furnace, dryer, water heater, fireplace) and we now have a brand new induction stove in our new home. Takes a bit of getting used to, but we already love it. Can't believe how quickly it can boil a pot of water, etc. >

Same here. Always had gas stoves and then moved into a house with induction. Had to get rid of a couple aluminum pans that don't work with it, but overall really like it. And as someone with asthma I like the idea that it's better for my lungs, even if I don't notice the difference >

Good, but we should be pushing more things akin to the Green New Deal and other regulations based around hard science >

As long as rural community without power or Native communities that rely on propane stoves/fridges get to keep it. Idk seems kinda dumb how many people who have power are even using gas stoves? Like 30 people? The only ones using mass amounts of gas powered stoves are restaurants and for some reason I feel they will be the only ones with the exemption. Unless U.S. government wants almost every restaurant to do a complete kitchen remodeling. >

It's actually a lot of people. Gonna preface it this time, cause I got a lot of flak yesterday; I bake a lot and so it comes up in casual conversation at work. You'd be surprised at the amount of people in the military, especially in the South, cling to gas stoves >

I'd love to get an induction stove
however that would be a $1000+ purchase at minimum, most are 2-3k plus new wiring to hook it up >

There was once a time when the government helped people 'modernize' their homes. I really wish we could get back to that point >

The Inflation Reduction Act has a rebate program for changing from a gas appliance to electric. It will be up to the states to determine who and what qualifies and the actual amounts. >


who and what qualifies and the actual amounts.

Ah, yea, so approximately residents of 32 states won’t qualify for this for various reasons. Meanwhile, some states will find plenty of money to traffic asylum seekers and charter private flights for its executive branch, things like that. 
I’m in NC, where Democrats cowered as Republicans ran wild, so this program is definitely not going to be made available. I’m willing to guess it will appropriate the funds to give out dividends to businesses here (they already pay 0% in tax legally) like so many other federal program funding without real enforcement on the state level. Like the solar credit stuff. >

I posted this one because the idea of phasing out gas stoves is a new one to me! Was surprised this was an idea floating out there but makes sense in this climate change world and given how dangerous gas is despite its prevalence... 
Are gas furnaces also on the way out? I've got a gas boiler too... >

And the right will give their kids asthma just to own the libs. >

Oh fuck that. Natural gas is pretty clean burning and cooking on it is so much better than electric. >

They also last longer than electric stoves >

They aren't going to ban the stove you already have.  Just new installations.  This was already done in CA. >

I know that, but that certainly isn’t how Fox News is going to sell it.