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Says the guy who’s probably never stepped foot in Chicago and heard the term “chiraq” from a Keef song.
Gang of 8 girls, age 13 to 16, tried to steal a bottle of liquor off of someone, this guy tried to stop it, and all 8 of the girls punched, kicked, and stabbed him to death for it. 2nd Degree Murder for each one of them. For a bottle of liquor. >

I don’t believe all 8 of them stabbed him >

They don't all have to have been wielding the knife to be included in that statement. Assaulting him and holding him down while he is stabbed means they were collectively " punching kicking and stabbing " him. >

So your saying he was stabbed by up to 8 people.
Edit; yes all 8 participated in the murder. However not all 8 stabbed the guy. It was a simple question, brigade on sheeple. Try commenting on what people actually say instead of what you want to tell them. >

Tbf if only 1 person stabbed him that could be considered up to 8. I think they usually say up to when they don't know how many actually stabbed him. Guy stabbed multiple time 8 girls involved at least 1 had to have stabbed him could have been any number up to 8 >

Doing it again, that was clear. That isn’t in question. How things are prosecuted doesn’t change wanting to know the answer. >

You were the one who said upto 8 so I was referring to your comment are you saying your comment wasn't relevant to the question? >

Woosh. >

I still don't get what answer your wanting. How is the commenter supposed to know how many actually stabbed him. The point I was making is if your the investigator who has a guy with 30 stab wounds and you know there are 8 people who attacked him but you don't know how many actually had a knife how are you supposed to know how many stabbed hell even if there was only one knife it could have been passed around by the girls. Unless you have cctv footage of the whole event it's impossible to know how many of them actually stabbed him >

here I’ll make is dumb for you. How many of the 8 stabbed the guy? That’s it. >


A friend of Lee's who saw his alleged attack told CBC Toronto the girls had tried to take a liquor bottle from her and Lee had tried to stop them. The lead detective on the case later confirmed that police believe there was an attempted theft — "likely of a liquor bottle" — during the initial phase of the deadly encounter.

Jesus, killing someone over a bottle of alcohol >

Teen mobs are a different kind of dangerous than hardened gangsters, they will kill you by accident under peer pressure.  A group of 8 teens feeling like they each need to get their kick to the head in, and not knowing how much is life threatening, is probably more dangerous than a lone mugger with no one to impress and no reason to overdo it. >

Well they also stabbed him. So peer pressure of thinking you have to get a kick in isn’t the only potential thing here. >

If anyone else is confused what a "swarming attack" is, apparently it is not an uncommon term in Canada for a type of collective crime:

What is a “swarming”?
Different courts have described swarming as, or applied the term to a variety of different situations including:
i.   Where victims are surrounded and their clothing or money torn from them by young gangs;[3]
ii.   A group attacking an individual for the purpose of stealing something from that individual;[4]
iii.  A group attacking an individual or group on account of a prior dispute;[5]
iv.   An attack on an innocent stranger acting as a good Samaritan;[6]
v.   Young persons demanding money or items of clothing and then beating the individual following refusal;[7]
vi.  An unprovoked attack, on a public street, by a group.[8]
Although there may be a fair amount of overlap between these types of situations, there does not appear to be a consistent definition of swarming to date.  Certain factors do not seem to be necessary ingredients of the phenomenon (e.g. theft of personal property).  Nevertheless, certain basic common features can be identified, including (1) actions by a group (2) against one or several individuals (3) incorporating violence, harassment, intimidation and/or the potential for overwhelming force or pressure.

Source: Uniform Law Conference of Canada >

I saw such thing in Edinburgh at night, teens swarmed another boy and proceeded to kick him for 5 minutes until he run away. I froze but tried to shout at them (to no avail). What infuriated me most, one of the attackers was on… crutches. Despite being injured himself, he joined the attack ^(wish I was brave enough to grab that crutch and shove it in their asses) >

Hey don’t feel bad.  The best thing to do in that situation is call the police / ambulance etc. for help.  You’re not helping anyone by becoming a casualty. >

True, at that time I felt guilt for being a bystander, these days I observe situations and when needed, alarm the authorities (did that few times since then). >

Knife wielding teenage girls in Toronto? What the fuck has this world come to. >

This sort of thing happens once in a generation in Canada, but daily in the USA...with guns. >

Perhaps you should actually visit the USA one day and not assume that police procedural dramas that you watch on TV are an accurate portrayal. >

perhaps you haven’t been to chiraq