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You should wish you lived there, Google any Florida public university’s in state tuition rate. It would appear Florida is also a laboratory for affordable education.
The First Amendment is being tested there, right now, by banning books and controlling the information taught to children. If they are allowed to win that battle, we have lost much more than just a fight over some books in school.
Fascism begins with the control of information. That's why the First Amendment is first. Because it's the single most important one, the first one that any attempt to impose fascism will need to defeat.  If fascists dismantle the 1A they win, they control the information. If they lose this battle, information about what they're doing will travel freely which is what prevents fascism from taking hold.
This is a First Amendment battle. This is fascism trying to squash free speech. There's a LOT riding on this. >

Then why isn't America taking this much more seriously? I say this as a Canadian watching the lunatic right wing here start adopting republican practices due to their success down south. >

Even those of us paying attention are at a loss for what to do. The same party controls the entire state of Florida. They can reasonably pass whatever laws they please, and there isn’t much anyone can do about it. The only real hope for Florida is that Desantis steps down and runs for president. >

Does anyone in Florida protest in the streets in Florida?
Last election, even the Metro areas voted for DeSantis.
Val Demmings got beat easily for the senate, and Crist won the Democrat primary over Nikki Fried.
I seriously don’t think people give a rip in Florida as a whole anymore.
DeSantis and his LARPing has pacified a population that just a few years ago were protesting gun violence as a result of the Parkland shooting. >


Last election, even the Metro areas voted for DeSantis.

Partially because the Dems picked one of the most milquetoast candidates possible. Seems like they were TRYING to throw the election. At somepoint Dems are going to have to pick someone that is actually exciting. We're seeing that the strategy of "not being the other guy" can only work for so long. >

Yes, Nikki Fried seemed like an energetic candidate, that was firing up women and young people. >

She was also involved with a very public dispute with her partner at a hotel and she is involved with marijuana and to the boomers weed = bad 
Crist won bc he used to be a Republican and they went with him even though he is a conservative democrat now. >

So sexism?  How many divorces does Trump have and they love his drama ass? >

I had to look it up to make sure, but reports came out that her fiancé ~~now husband~~ was “abusive” to her where police escorted him off the hotel property. 
She dismissed the claims saying he wasn’t verbal or physical but the people running against her used that as bait for political ads against her as anyway as well as bringing up ethics disputes over financials, etc.. etc.. 
The older crowd voted for Crist because they remembered him from when he was a Republican and he was the “safe” choice, blah blah blah. 
It’s all bullshit here, but we are trying to push back. But it’s loaded with DeSantis/trump loyalists. 
A federal judge ruled that DeSantis illegally removed Andrew Warren who SIDED with warren and said that Warren was right and had his first amendment violated when DeSantis removed him but that he didn’t have the authority to reinstate him and upheld the suspension. So now it has to go to the Florida Supreme Court which is already severely biased and in favor of DeSantis. 
Maybe with DeSantis trying to take on Disney we can get more people involved but until it affects people personally, they don’t care at all. >


I had to look it up to make sure, but reports came out that her fiancé now husband was “abusive” to her where police escorted him off the hotel property. 

They aren't married and are no longer a couple. Just wanted to correct this. >

It seems to be thriving like mold in a Petrie dish. >

You mean peach tree dish? >

Peaches is Georgia not Florida >

It’s actually California, then South Carolina, then Georgia in third. >

And Kansas was their laboratory for their failed fiscal policies, Texas their laboratory for stripping back regulation on all things, and Mississippi is their laboratory for education policy, or the eradication of it. >

Don't forget Mississippi was also pioneering the chipping away of abortion rights, one targeted regulation at a time, even before Dobbs. Party of small government using regulation to strangle small businesses! >

There should be a maximum voting age. >

Why is this never taken seriously? It makes sense. Retirees should have very little influence on politics. Maybe then they will care about younger generations instead of constantly disparaging them. >

They are citizens and have the right to vote. So, yes, senior citizens should be able to do so. >

Should 5 year old citizens be able to do so? >


Ron DeSantis is not a "mini-Trump" or some other diminutive. He is much more dangerous. Donald Trump has no "ideology" beyond megalomania and a deep desire to be an American god king. By comparison, DeSantis is far more intelligent and devious; he is an ideological fascist and racial authoritarian.

/r/MarchAgainstDeSantis >

Donald Trump will NEVER EVER EVER yield what he sees as his rightful place at the head of the Republican Party. His ego is WAY to big and his lust for power and desire for that precious immunity while he pillages the country’s coffers is too strong. If the party won’t give him the nomination he WILL run as an independent thereby splitting the Republican vote and handing it to the Democrat. If the party does give him the nomination he will ONCE again get his fat ass trounced in the election. >

I can see this.  He'd probably do other things to sabotage desantis just for spite, too.   I need to stock up on popcorn >

This is timely because Trump started calling DeSantis a pedophile today. >

Nothing like watching two people you hate punching each other… 
It’s what driving the karma bus must feel like. >

Those paying attention already know this.
Those not paying attention don't want to pay attention, would rather have the wool pulled over their eyes to be pointed at some imagined enemy like a wind-up doll, as the fascism demands. >

Right, all those 1930s Germans who didn't have any problems with Jews but still supported the direction of the country for economic reasons.
Sorry, short version: Nazis. >

Floridians are worse.
Citizens of Gulf countries, Singapore, China, old Germany all had a presidency take them from poverty to middle/upper class. 
DeSantis has done nothing good. >

I would not state any modern nonviolent(or even like mildly violent) person is worse than a nazi but you’ve got the right energy >

Why? If you couldn’t afford to put food on the table and now live a life of comparative luxury with world class infrastructure etc, you’d support the people who got you there even if their monsters. (China, Gulf nations).
DeSantis has not done that for Floridians yet they still support him. >

It’s a laboratory for meth, too >

And breeding snakes and reptiles. >

Snakes are reptiles >

Interesting! I typically think of reptiles as having legs - but snakes have vestigial legs too! >

Not only do snakes have vestigial legs, there are legless lizards that slither on their bellies but are not snakes. Nature is weird. >


legless lizards that slither 

bruhhhh these things look whacky lol >

but my libertarian coworker says that it's not fascism, it's smart. He says that we need stronger men like Desantis leading our country because men today are weak and the weak get conquered, that if we hadn't become weak we would be the ones doing the conquering. Instead we allow anyone to come here, we feminize our men, and allow weak ideas like communism and workers rights to flourish in our society. Weak men create hard times.
Are you saying that my homeschooled 30 year old libertarian coworker who self defines himself as a warrior philosopher, debater personality type and thinks he has a Collegiate-level education because he plays hearts of iron IV and listens to Jordan Peterson could be wrong? Well, I never! >

They must be feeling really conflicted by Nick Offerman right now. >

Nick Offerman has been my go to example of “toxic masculinity being bad doesn’t mean masculinity is bad”. He is wholesome as fuck. >

He's a goddamn national treasure and his laugh is a panacea for all ailments >

“The government are all nazis!” >

“Well yeah, but not back then…” >

All because the brother of a former president was: "The democrats had the White House long enough." Followed by: "How dare you elect a black man as president who is a progressive. Let's elect the most racist backward people from now on!" >

Can we just put a big rubber band around the top of it and wait for it to shrivel and fall off? >

I know it won’t mean much in the grand scheme of things, but this year will be the first time in about 15 years I won’t be vacationing in Florida. Fuck Governor Go-Go Boots and his fascist bullshit. >

Good on you! It’s a shame how few people actually vote with their wallet. If we all did, I think things would be quite different in the US >

I voted with my wallet by moving out of Florida, it wasn’t cheap. 
But, for every person like me who gets fed up and moves there are at least two conservative boomers moving there to replace us and make it even more fascist. >

I hate it here, the stupidity and cruelty in this state are off-the-charts horrible. My parents are elderly so I can't leave. >

Republican fascists are deeply offended by your interpretation of their fascist endeavors. >

The article meant to say... again. >

Freedom of religion? Fuck you. Education? Fuck you. Civil Rights? Fuck you. Immigration? Fuck you. Mickey Mouse? Fuck you. 
The lowest of the low anti-American, anti-democracy governor in the US >

This is the guy who they think will run for the Republicans in 2024!!??.  I feel after Trump and us all here in Canada saying “well thank god that’s over!” The Republicans are having a ‘hold my beer’ moment.  “Hey Canada, you thought Trump was crazy!?  Wait till you see this maniac from Florida!” >

all the people who "fled" california to FL are going to come back once they realize what they've gotten themselves into. >

God, I hope not. No takesies backsies. We were not sending our best. >

The fact nothing is being done and there doesn’t seem to be any opposition of these laws, it scares me to no end that this could be the future of the United States. There’s a real possibility a Republican wins in 2024 and the entire USA becomes Florida. >

All you guys whining and scared are going to vote, right? Right?! >

I don't think reddit acknowledges how likely it is that DeSantis wins. It's a legit scary outcome. >

Reddit has a bad case of Sorkin Syndrome: it believes that Republicans share the same inherent values as Liberals deep down. That Republicans are misinformed and undereducated people who would become Democrats if they were just given the proper information and education to "fix" their erroneous worldview. And when push comes to shove, when things get dire enough, Republicans will "look past the greed and do what's best for America."
None of that is true. Republicans might share some of the same values that liberals do, but they sure as shit do not weigh those values the same way. 
It's two inherently different worldviews: one side believes in society, the other stockpiles guns for when they get to overthrow that society. >

You totally had me on board until you labled "the other" as people preparing to overthrow society. These are your neighbors, people you see everyday at work, the store, wherever. Just because someone is conservative doesn't make them a fascist domestic terrorist. These are normal people, not monsters that want to watch the world burn >

This sentiment is why America deserves everything it has coming. At least you get to feign moral superiority for refusing to acknowledge literal fascists while the country burns. >

Yes, let's categorize 120 million people on the actions of a few. K >

Supporting and voting for fascists are actions. >

Head on over to r/florida to see it in action.  Mods have stifled all political discussion to make the sub almost entirely sunsets and beaches. >

Then stop traveling there and taking your kids >

We will! Their coastlines are disappearing and once that happens and weather systems make it intolerable, we will. But let’s keep taking our kids there because in a decade it will be under water. I lived there and the writing is on the wall. >

Yea pretty much. Fascist gotta fascist. >

He learned it at gitmo. >

Damn near all the Louisiana Purchase is fascism lite >

Yeah so when can we start being considered refugees?  In dire need of asylum. >

I want to leave Florida so bad, it has gotten so expensive. >

A giant peach tree dish of fascism so to speak >

I hate it here >

Pay attention people, if De Sanyo’s is elected to a presidential platform, the whole country will be a laboratory bowl of fascism, do you realize what this means ? >

This guy is a fascist with a huge ego. He gets away with it in his bubble in Florida with no opposition but it won’t fly in the whole country!!! Or were in big trouble >

Florida:  It's Like 1930's Germany, with Theme Parks! >

If we’re going to compare timelines we’re sitting more around the early 20s I’d say but otherwise yeah >

To be fair they voted for it. Hard >

Because there was a massive population shift during covid. Conservatives moved to Florida because there were no lockdowns or mask mandates, progressives moved away ~~because the state will literally be underwater within decades~~ because of the batshit crazy politics. >

Just because the state is a Petri dish doesn’t make it a lab, it’s more of a fascist meth cook house. >

Won't be long until Florida turns into Missouri, another garbage state overran by hicks that are too busy trying to kill minorities. >

Welcome to the Republic of Gilead >

Desantistan >

Because DeSantis is a fucking chode. >

I think you literally mean unofficially. 
Fuck Florida. Fuck Desantis. Let’s use words correctly. >

The left in America need to stand up. Fight fire with fire >

Fire is what in this instance? >

Actual fire from global warming. >

So not fire we've set ourselves? We have to wait for a forest fire to occur? 
These are some inconvenient limitations we're putting on ourselves here. >

You won't have to wait long. >

I don’t understand how so many people in this country are dumb enough to vote for this shit. Even if your schools suck, like…you have the internet. There is no excuse for being this fucking dumb in this day and age. 
👏Quit. 👏Voting. 👏For. 👏Fucking. 👏Literal. 👏Nazi. 👏Pedophiles. >

Fash the Nation baby >

What laboratory was Kansas again? >

Well no shit. If Ron Desantis wins, it tells you exactly where this country is headed. >

I recall back in 2012 as I discussed the rise of fascism in America with some acquaintances only to be accused of committing a logical fallacy. Now the “F” word is being bandied about and the left does not to counter what is obviously a huge step in the wrong direction for our nation. Granted the cancer of fascism has a legacy that extends all the way back to the colonial past when the idea of an inferior, barbaric race became a novel justification for the Christian West to kill —as well as enslave— in order to steal from, subjugate, and conquer peoples whose sole crime was “standing in the way” of empire and profit. >

48 states are aware of what Florida is.
(YES, THERE ARE 50 STATES.. TEXAS IS JUST.. A BIT SLOW, YA'LL) >

If you had to attempt to explain to someone, calmly, why they shouldn’t like Ron Desantis, how would you? >

To those who say it can’t happen here: yes, it absolutely can and already has. 
Also read It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis >

He abuses the 1st amendment and dick rides the 2nd. 🤷🏼‍♂️ >

I hope Disney fans destroy Ron. >

We have this problem because the GOP thinks it has a captive Supreme Court and lame duck congress. The executive has the power to squash this but it either needs a United Congress or an impartial Supreme Court. The opposition has neither.
The one thing in the way is time. To install a fascist state you need speed and prevent the opposition from implementing their policies. A GOP president could fast-track appeals to the Supreme Court but even fast-tracked appeal takes years.
We are only one heartbeat away from a different Supreme Court. Even the GOP House of Representatives could collapse if business republicans or purple state republicans are forced to choose between principles they never espoused or total debt default. It would take 6 to join with democrats to have a liberal Republican or more likely an independent instead of McCarthy.
Our system is designed for this. We can not give in to apathy but apathy is what has led us so far down this path. >

At this point of American history unfortunately, the virus has to run its course until it leaves the system. Just like most things in the U.S. it's cyclical. Bittersweet pill, but it has to play itself out over the course of the next 4 to 5 decades. Worse still is, that it will never get back to what it was, just a different type of "normalcy" and brief co existence of what remains. >

Disney should shut it’s doors. 
Teachers Union needs to strike. 
The fight is against fascism now. Little Mussolini has decided to be its champion. >

Really trying to move out of Florida for a number of reasons, but the fascism coming from the right is high up on that list. >

Florida is what happens when you build a meth lab inside of a haunted plantation house on an ancient Indian burial ground... >

He is ridiculously drunk on power >

So is every other red state. Florida is just a little more Florida about it. >

I'd call it more of a lavatory of fascism. >

I am not going to start getting my political news from salon of all places. Time to leave this subreddit. >

The State of the Union sub was pretty sensible tonight! But otherwise yeah, this is getting pretty out of hand at this point. This level of just "everyone who disagrees with my cultural views is a fascist." Thankfully, Biden is sticking to just talking about boring stuff like jobs and policy (guns, healthcare, taxes), and just ignoring this crap. >

Teachers are being threatened with felonies if they have a classroom library. Businesses are attacked by the state government if they openly disagree with the states policies. Textbooks are being banned simply for having a phrase such as “turn to your partner”. That is fascism. >

I fuckin hate this state. I wanted to be out before 30. But, here I am. Ugh. >

Who would vote for this Nazi? >

Idk. Nazis probably >

except people from Florida and all over the world use this place to act like the biggest degenerates they can possibly be. Believe me. I’m guilty of it myself. I’m just glad I don’t live there.