>

There's 11781 reasons to imprison Trump just from that phone call alone, counting the threat he made to the GA secretary of state.
Conspiracy to defraud the people of Georgia should be the minimum charges for all involved. >

Here's a full analysis from a group of legal experts on possible charges Trump could face in GA:

We conclude that Trump’s post-election conduct in Georgia leaves him at substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes. These charges potentially include: criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; intentional interference with performance of election duties; conspiracy to commit election fraud; criminal solicitation; and state Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act violations. >

I hate every one of the weasel words in this statement >

Unless we have a crystal ball into the future, "potential, possible, risk" are the only words we can use.
The legal analysts writing this report don't decide Trump's fate, unfortunately. They can only speculate. >

“Hate” and “ don’t understand the need for” are two different things. >

Hard to differentiate since a lot of people fall into the latter, but agreed - I hate it too.
Unfortunately, even an indictment isn't a "We got him!" moment. A trial will probably extend well into 2024 and that's not even including appeals. Could be so much longer until we see him actually held accountable, if ever. >

At this stage I would be happy to see him testifying under oath in a well run setting. Sure he will plead the 5th or I don't recall but even him being confronted by evidence already gathered will be interesting >

I doubt he would plead the 5th, since he's so fond of verbal diarrhea. >

Just to be clear, if one of us talks to someone in line to vote, and tries to convince them to vote my way, we can be arrested.
If I threatened a poll worker to change a vote, I'd certainly be prosecuted.
So what happens if I threatened the top state elections official, and tried to force him to "find" over 11,000 fake votes? >

Totally depends. We would need to know your claimed net worth and the extent of your political connections in order to answer this question. Hope you aren’t one of the poors though, cuz you’re fucksville in that case. However, you might be ok if you make enough money that you don’t have to bother paying taxes. American election law is kind of complicated, as you can see in this example. >

Yeah, for reference, a black woman in Texas got 5 years in prison for simply filing a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, so she asked the poll workers what to do. They said file a provisional ballot, and she did.
She got 5 years in real prison for that. >

I’d love to find out how many minorities were denied a vote compared to whites in Texas. Then I’d like a comparison of how many of those people were sent to prison. I wouldn’t be surprised to find the minorities got shafted >

they don't keep those records of white folk denied. thats cause why keep a record that says ZERO >

So you’re saying the statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have it bad when trying to vote? >

I think they are saying that Texans never deny white people the ability to vote, so there is no point in keeping a record of "zero cases." So if records are never kept then the implication is that statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have the same access when trying to vote. >

Imagine if Biden or Bush or Obama were on tape demanding that a state official "find" thousands of votes so they could win. 
Conservatives. C'mon, guys. Show a modicum of consistency. >

That would be inconsistent with past gop actions >

Just a never ending cycle of hypocrisy >

Not even a cycle so much as a permanent state of being. >


Special grand juries in Georgia cannot issue indictments

all you need to know. >

Not sure what you're suggesting, but yeah - that's how a GA special grand jury works.
The DA can seek charges at a regular grand jury very quickly. The evidence has already been procured and report will help expedite a request, it just takes a majority vote to issue an indictment.
We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon. >


We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon.

This has been every news headline for the last two years. >

Even if that were true, it's doesn't really relate to this situation or make it ambiguous.
We will know if Fulton DA decides to prosecute in the coming weeks. The investigation is essentially over. They either will issue indictments, or they won't. >

We should know in a handful of weeks whether charges are being filed.
The odds are very good that some charges will come out of this, it is hard to know what at this point though. >

Note that this is not the grand jury that will determine whether to file charges. That one comes along later. >

let's vote for the billionaire, he'll make us billionaires!
Trump for me is this big unmature baby that cries when money can't buy candy >

“bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump and others.”
Lets correct this with reality. Should say, 
“bringing the case one step closer to ignoring possible criminal activity by Trump and others” >

Teflon don >

Of all things this stupid motherfucker has done including extortion of Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent, it was a desperate phone call that will do him in because he was too big a baby to take the L >

There's 11781 reasons to imprison Trump just from that phone call alone, counting the threat he made to the GA secretary of state. >

Pft. Really.
It seems that the only real election fraud in 2020 was Demented Donny himself. >


bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump 
threaten legal peril for Trump
These charges potentially include

Yeah, yeah. Call me when this motherfucker actually sees the inside of a courtroom. >

Better yet, call me when he’s found guilty of a federal crime. >

Guys, I’m starting to get worried that a wealthy former-president might get away with multiple crimes. Has anything like this ever happened before? >

Every 4 to 8 years for a couple centuries >

Wanna know what will come of this?  Zip.  Zilch...Nada...Nothing... >

It pains me to be this cynical, but who cares? I've lost track of the number of smoking guns that were SURE to be Trump's undoing. No, really guys, it's THIS one. Please bro, we promise, he's really in trouble this time! 
The entire world saw what Trump did with their eyes and ears, in real time. All these investigations, panels, probes, reports, etc. have done is loudly and repeatedly shown the American public, beyond any reasonable doubt, that people like Trump are simply above the law. I'd say "put up or shut up", but that was true 10 minutes after he instigated a violent coup attempt against his own country on live television. It's been TWO. YEARS. America's attention span is so short, you now have people in denial that Trump was involved, or that January 6th even happened. You think any of them give a shit about the Jan 6th panel findings? He tried to destroy democracy, so we wrote a book report that says he's mean.
This would be like if we had security cam footage of someone stealing from Wal-Mart and instead of arresting the perp, Wal-Mart had to first hold 6 weeks of meetings to determine whether or not to create a panel that will spend 4 months reviewing the security cam footage to determine whether security cam footage counts as evidence. The disparities in our justice system have never been more obvious. Month after month after month and we're still stuck in the "harshly worded condemnation" stage. This is like if Ents were in charge of a criminal investigation. It would be absolutely hilarious if it wasn't so horribly, tragically stupid and broken. >

The only correct answer to 1/6 was that ALL 535 members of Congress should have marched their angry asses to the White House and dragged him by his ankles back to Congress to be impeached, convicted, and turned over to authorities that very night while here was still broken glass on the floor.
That's what the Founding Fathers would have done in the face of such a violation. Everything LESS than that makes a mockery of our government. >

People who follow bullies like Trump only respond to bully tactics. They should have arrested him right then and there. Even if charges didn't stick, that's what his supporters would remember: Trump dragged from his podium and publicly humiliated in front of the world. They'd remember him losing, and they don't follow losers. Instead, they see him not only getting away with it, but getting away with it SO HARD he's running for President again.
Plus, the guy committed a VERY obvious, VERY serious crime on live television. American citizens are routinely shot to death by authorities for far less. Democrats are still trying to play by a rule book that Republicans burned at a rally decades ago. >


The decision whether to seek an indictment from a regular grand jury will be up to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. Willis spokesperson Jeff DiSantis said the office had no comment on the completion of the panel’s work.

There's no actual news in this news. >

It's a milestone. Next will be January 24th. Unless Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis makes a decision about proceeding before then. >

Come on my fellow Americans. You should know by now that laws only apply to peons and serfs. >

The 16 fake electors along with Guiliani and many other Republican crooks should get their affairs in order soon because they are doomed to lose their freedom this year, followed thereafter by the grand poobah himself - Orange Drumpf. >

There is a myriad of reasons the US Justice system is illegitimate but if charges aren't brought against Trump for this, they're brazenly waving it in everyone's face. >

So we have to wait until Jan 24th to have a meeting on whether to make the report public?  Really!? >

Laying the groundwork for a framework to discuss the possibility of… >

You’re  done,cooked…moron >

As much as Trump belongs in jail...
Anyone expecting the US system to EVER charge a sitting or former US president with crimes is kidding themselves. 
The entire system would collapse into chaos. The entire US system of governance is trapped in a catch-22
If he's charged with a crime the entire system would likely fall apart as it would call into question every act taken by the executive Branch of the US government. 
However, if they don't charge him it's just setting the precedent that a sitting president can do whatever they want. Which puts the entire system on shaky ground as well.
I'm not sure there is a winning move for anyone here. >

Wow took Georgia 3 years to count that high? >

And once again, nothing will happen. >

Y’all still care about this? Holy shit. >

The security of our elections? Absolutely. >

Conspiracy to defraud the people of Georgia should be the minimum charges for all involved. >

Here's a full analysis from a group of legal experts on possible charges Trump could face in GA:

We conclude that Trump’s post-election conduct in Georgia leaves him at substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes. These charges potentially include: criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; intentional interference with performance of election duties; conspiracy to commit election fraud; criminal solicitation; and state Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act violations. >

I hate every one of the weasel words in this statement >

Unless we have a crystal ball into the future, "potential, possible, risk" are the only words we can use.
The legal analysts writing this report don't decide Trump's fate, unfortunately. They can only speculate. >

“Hate” and “ don’t understand the need for” are two different things. >

Hard to differentiate since a lot of people fall into the latter, but agreed - I hate it too.
Unfortunately, even an indictment isn't a "We got him!" moment. A trial will probably extend well into 2024 and that's not even including appeals. Could be so much longer until we see him actually held accountable, if ever. >

At this stage I would be happy to see him testifying under oath in a well run setting. Sure he will plead the 5th or I don't recall but even him being confronted by evidence already gathered will be interesting >

I doubt he would plead the 5th, since he's so fond of verbal diarrhea. >

Just to be clear, if one of us talks to someone in line to vote, and tries to convince them to vote my way, we can be arrested.
If I threatened a poll worker to change a vote, I'd certainly be prosecuted.
So what happens if I threatened the top state elections official, and tried to force him to "find" over 11,000 fake votes? >

Totally depends. We would need to know your claimed net worth and the extent of your political connections in order to answer this question. Hope you aren’t one of the poors though, cuz you’re fucksville in that case. However, you might be ok if you make enough money that you don’t have to bother paying taxes. American election law is kind of complicated, as you can see in this example. >

Yeah, for reference, a black woman in Texas got 5 years in prison for simply filing a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, so she asked the poll workers what to do. They said file a provisional ballot, and she did.
She got 5 years in real prison for that. >

I’d love to find out how many minorities were denied a vote compared to whites in Texas. Then I’d like a comparison of how many of those people were sent to prison. I wouldn’t be surprised to find the minorities got shafted >

they don't keep those records of white folk denied. thats cause why keep a record that says ZERO >

So you’re saying the statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have it bad when trying to vote? >

I think they are saying that Texans never deny white people the ability to vote, so there is no point in keeping a record of "zero cases." So if records are never kept then the implication is that statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have the same access when trying to vote. >

Imagine if Biden or Bush or Obama were on tape demanding that a state official "find" thousands of votes so they could win. 
Conservatives. C'mon, guys. Show a modicum of consistency. >

That would be inconsistent with past gop actions >

Just a never ending cycle of hypocrisy >

Not even a cycle so much as a permanent state of being. >


Special grand juries in Georgia cannot issue indictments

all you need to know. >

Not sure what you're suggesting, but yeah - that's how a GA special grand jury works.
The DA can seek charges at a regular grand jury very quickly. The evidence has already been procured and report will help expedite a request, it just takes a majority vote to issue an indictment.
We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon. >


We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon.

This has been every news headline for the last two years. >

Even if that were true, it's doesn't really relate to this situation or make it ambiguous.
We will know if Fulton DA decides to prosecute in the coming weeks. The investigation is essentially over. They either will issue indictments, or they won't. >

We should know in a handful of weeks whether charges are being filed.
The odds are very good that some charges will come out of this, it is hard to know what at this point though. >

Pft. Really.
It seems that the only real election fraud in 2020 was Demented Donny himself. >

Of all things this stupid motherfucker has done including extortion of Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent, it was a desperate phone call that will do him in because he was too big a baby to take the L >

There's 11781 reasons to imprison Trump just from that phone call alone, counting the threat he made to the GA secretary of state. >

“bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump and others.”
Lets correct this with reality. Should say, 
“bringing the case one step closer to ignoring possible criminal activity by Trump and others” >

Teflon don >


bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump 
threaten legal peril for Trump
These charges potentially include

Yeah, yeah. Call me when this motherfucker actually sees the inside of a courtroom. >

Better yet, call me when he’s found guilty of a federal crime. >

I believe federal can be pardoned by a president but state cannot. So multiple states with charges would greatly increase the chance of him actually having something stick long term, as the next R prez in office would most certainly immediately pardon him at a federal level. >

Note that this is not the grand jury that will determine whether to file charges. That one comes along later. >

Guys, I’m starting to get worried that a wealthy former-president might get away with multiple crimes. Has anything like this ever happened before? >

Every 4 to 8 years for a couple centuries >

Don’t know why this was downvoted. Fucking hilarious comment! >

let's vote for the billionaire, he'll make us billionaires!
Trump for me is this big unmature baby that cries when money can't buy candy >

Wanna know what will come of this?  Zip.  Zilch...Nada...Nothing... >

It pains me to be this cynical, but who cares? I've lost track of the number of smoking guns that were SURE to be Trump's undoing. No, really guys, it's THIS one. Please bro, we promise, he's really in trouble this time! 
The entire world saw what Trump did with their eyes and ears, in real time. All these investigations, panels, probes, reports, etc. have done is loudly and repeatedly shown the American public, beyond any reasonable doubt, that people like Trump are simply above the law. I'd say "put up or shut up", but that was true 10 minutes after he instigated a violent coup attempt against his own country on live television. It's been TWO. YEARS. America's attention span is so short, you now have people in denial that Trump was involved, or that January 6th even happened. You think any of them give a shit about the Jan 6th panel findings? He tried to destroy democracy, so we wrote a book report that says he's mean.
This would be like if we had security cam footage of someone stealing from Wal-Mart and instead of arresting the perp, Wal-Mart had to first hold 6 weeks of meetings to determine whether or not to create a panel that will spend 4 months reviewing the security cam footage to determine whether security cam footage counts as evidence. The disparities in our justice system have never been more obvious. Month after month after month and we're still stuck in the "harshly worded condemnation" stage. This is like if Ents were in charge of a criminal investigation. It would be absolutely hilarious if it wasn't so horribly, tragically stupid and broken. >

The only correct answer to 1/6 was that ALL 535 members of Congress should have marched their angry asses to the White House and dragged him by his ankles back to Congress to be impeached, convicted, and turned over to authorities that very night while here was still broken glass on the floor.
That's what the Founding Fathers would have done in the face of such a violation. Everything LESS than that makes a mockery of our government. >

People who follow bullies like Trump only respond to bully tactics. They should have arrested him right then and there. Even if charges didn't stick, that's what his supporters would remember: Trump dragged from his podium and publicly humiliated in front of the world. They'd remember him losing, and they don't follow losers. Instead, they see him not only getting away with it, but getting away with it SO HARD he's running for President again.
Plus, the guy committed a VERY obvious, VERY serious crime on live television. American citizens are routinely shot to death by authorities for far less. Democrats are still trying to play by a rule book that Republicans burned at a rally decades ago. >


The decision whether to seek an indictment from a regular grand jury will be up to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. Willis spokesperson Jeff DiSantis said the office had no comment on the completion of the panel’s work.

There's no actual news in this news. >

It's a milestone. Next will be January 24th. Unless Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis makes a decision about proceeding before then. >

The 16 fake electors along with Guiliani and many other Republican crooks should get their affairs in order soon because they are doomed to lose their freedom this year, followed thereafter by the grand poobah himself - Orange Drumpf. >

Come on my fellow Americans. You should know by now that laws only apply to peons and serfs. >

3 years later. I understand it takes a long time but that is shit. >

Its amazing how Trump brazenly commited felonies in plain view with ample evidence, but the government negelcts to charge him. This is a blatant undermining of the American people. WtF are we if we cant up hold our laws?! We, as American citizens, need to make it clear we will not be forced to suffer at the hands of this madman Trump. We must stand up to this tyranny, or our country is lost!
The republican party is an enemy of the state. They have become an extremist terroist organization who tried to overthrow our democracy. Everyone who is protecting Trump from the January 6 charges should thrown out of office and tried for tyranny! Fucking whimps wont do it though. They all scared.
FBI aint doing shit. DOJ sitting on their hands. Fed judges breaking precedent to protect him. Investigation after investigation that end in criminal referrels held in stasis. Wtf does it take?! >

There is a myriad of reasons the US Justice system is illegitimate but if charges aren't brought against Trump for this, they're brazenly waving it in everyone's face. >

So we have to wait until Jan 24th to have a meeting on whether to make the report public?  Really!? >

You’re  done,cooked…moron >

Laying the groundwork for a framework to discuss the possibility of… >

Wow took Georgia 3 years to count that high? >

As much as Trump belongs in jail...
Anyone expecting the US system to EVER charge a sitting or former US president with crimes is kidding themselves. 
The entire system would collapse into chaos. The entire US system of governance is trapped in a catch-22
If he's charged with a crime the entire system would likely fall apart as it would call into question every act taken by the executive Branch of the US government. 
However, if they don't charge him it's just setting the precedent that a sitting president can do whatever they want. Which puts the entire system on shaky ground as well.
I'm not sure there is a winning move for anyone here. >

And once again, nothing will happen. >

Y’all still care about this? Holy shit. >

The security of our elections? Absolutely. >

Everyone heard Ol' Bone Spurs telling Raffensperger to "find 11,780 votes".  It was all over the media, still is.  What takes 3 years to investigate THAT? >

Conspiracy to defraud the people of Georgia should be the minimum charges for all involved. >

Here's a full analysis from a group of legal experts on possible charges Trump could face in GA:

We conclude that Trump’s post-election conduct in Georgia leaves him at substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes. These charges potentially include: criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; intentional interference with performance of election duties; conspiracy to commit election fraud; criminal solicitation; and state Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act violations. >

I hate every one of the weasel words in this statement >

Unless we have a crystal ball into the future, "potential, possible, risk" are the only words we can use.
The legal analysts writing this report don't decide Trump's fate, unfortunately. They can only speculate. >

“Hate” and “ don’t understand the need for” are two different things. >

Hard to differentiate since a lot of people fall into the latter, but agreed - I hate it too.
Unfortunately, even an indictment isn't a "We got him!" moment. A trial will probably extend well into 2024 and that's not even including appeals. Could be so much longer until we see him actually held accountable, if ever. >

At this stage I would be happy to see him testifying under oath in a well run setting. Sure he will plead the 5th or I don't recall but even him being confronted by evidence already gathered will be interesting >

I doubt he would plead the 5th, since he's so fond of verbal diarrhea. >

Just to be clear, if one of us talks to someone in line to vote, and tries to convince them to vote my way, we can be arrested.
If I threatened a poll worker to change a vote, I'd certainly be prosecuted.
So what happens if I threatened the top state elections official, and tried to force him to "find" over 11,000 fake votes? >

Totally depends. We would need to know your claimed net worth and the extent of your political connections in order to answer this question. Hope you aren’t one of the poors though, cuz you’re fucksville in that case. However, you might be ok if you make enough money that you don’t have to bother paying taxes. American election law is kind of complicated, as you can see in this example. >

Yeah, for reference, a black woman in Texas got 5 years in prison for simply filing a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, so she asked the poll workers what to do. They said file a provisional ballot, and she did.
She got 5 years in real prison for that. >

I’d love to find out how many minorities were denied a vote compared to whites in Texas. Then I’d like a comparison of how many of those people were sent to prison. I wouldn’t be surprised to find the minorities got shafted >

they don't keep those records of white folk denied. thats cause why keep a record that says ZERO >

So you’re saying the statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have it bad when trying to vote? >

I think they are saying that Texans never deny white people the ability to vote, so there is no point in keeping a record of "zero cases." So if records are never kept then the implication is that statistics are manipulated to make it appear minorities have the same access when trying to vote. >

Imagine if Biden or Bush or Obama were on tape demanding that a state official "find" thousands of votes so they could win. 
Conservatives. C'mon, guys. Show a modicum of consistency. >

That would be inconsistent with past gop actions >

Just a never ending cycle of hypocrisy >

Not even a cycle so much as a permanent state of being. >


Special grand juries in Georgia cannot issue indictments

all you need to know. >

Not sure what you're suggesting, but yeah - that's how a GA special grand jury works.
The DA can seek charges at a regular grand jury very quickly. The evidence has already been procured and report will help expedite a request, it just takes a majority vote to issue an indictment.
We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon. >


We will ultimately see a decision on whether or not Trump is charged very soon.

This has been every news headline for the last two years. >

Even if that were true, it's doesn't really relate to this situation or make it ambiguous.
We will know if Fulton DA decides to prosecute in the coming weeks. The investigation is essentially over. They either will issue indictments, or they won't. >

We should know in a handful of weeks whether charges are being filed.
The odds are very good that some charges will come out of this, it is hard to know what at this point though. >

Pft. Really.
It seems that the only real election fraud in 2020 was Demented Donny himself. >

Of all things this stupid motherfucker has done including extortion of Ukraine for dirt on his political opponent, it was a desperate phone call that will do him in because he was too big a baby to take the L