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Religion should never be a reason to be a shitty person with no criticism. No matter what the religion. >

Imagine  is all one bad thing. Brainwashing people to think large masses of people seems to be too easy lately. Ugh. >

To be fair, plenty of people do just that with Christians. Many atheists are quite open about how much they dislike Christians and don’t hold back and how great the world would be if there were no pesky Christians >

People living in country with large population of Christians happen to not like Christians. It's mostly just to do with exposure and the role that Christianity plays in politics, their communities and surroundings, and their everyday lives. >

To a fair extent that’s true, but it also doesn’t make it somehow better to feel comfortable openly criticizing one religion but not others >

I'll criticize any religion you want. Lol >

No no, the practitioners >

Why do we have to look at them as “Jews” and not individuals?
Individuals are not above critique. But it is wrong to target a group of people based on an individuals actions.
If you have a problem with the religion itself, then you can critique Judaism. >

I agree you shouldn't critique a group of people cause of some individuals but what I am saying is you cannot say anything which would be consier3e controversial about Jewish people >

Yeah, no one has ever said anything negative about Jeffrey Epstein, because you'd get cancelled if you did. >

Harvey Weinstein is a piece of shit. Please don’t cancel me 😳 >

No one thinks they're not above critique.  The Palestine situation is aired everywhere in Europe, it's just kind of taboo in the US.  Apart from that the world is full of high profile Jewish people who are regularly criticised >

HA this will end well. >

I'm a simple guy, I hate everyone equally. >

r/shitcentristssay >

I'm not centrist... oh~. >

You just proved the problem...
Do you think people involved in the Atlantic slave trade did so because they follow Judaism? Or because these few perticular bad individuals are bad and they just happened to also practice Judaism?
When you want to criticize Jews for this you prove your problem is with Jews and not a lack of ability to criticize.
Do we blame christians for the American slave trade? Or does the fact they were christian is incidental?
See the hypocrisy? >

Being Jewish isn’t about the religion, it’s a race of people. >

So you think the racial DNA gears them towards slavery? Just stop...
Neither religion nor race has anything to do with it. >

You’re telling me you don’t blame white people for anything? >

Criticize the religion, criticize the people who committed a crime, but if someone wants to make vast generalizations about the current people in a group instead of the problematic individuals.... That is a problem. >

I concur >

Like what if we just quit talking shit about groups of people and limit our shit talking to individuals?
let’s try it for a few hundred years and see how it lands >

I disagree with the slave example that OP posted, but there is a tendency to hide behind antisemitism for political based attacks.
Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud Party perfected this over the last decade, suggesting that criticism of Israel and it's political choices is basically antisemitism. >

Im Jewish and I agree with you.  Most Jews hide behind "anti-semitism" to avoid dealing with any criticism or self evaluation. >

Thank you! All I'm saying nobody on this planet is special! >

Apparently, you wish to garner attention by seeking negative reinforcement. You are not special either. >

I never claimed to be special >

Look at them as individuals. What has being Jewish got to do with it. The slave trade didn't happen because the Torah commanded them to. They were slavers, who happen to be Jewish. >

When I’m called antisemitic for being against mutilating babies I get a chuckle. >

Funny when something bad happens its always “right wing group” “white people” “the latinos” “asians” but when jew it is jew related it’s always “how about bad individuals?” I swear this is the only moment internet insists on individual responsibility. >

Yeah the people in the comments are doing to much 2 Jewish people commented and agreed with me >

The problem it's not critique. The problem it's that generalisations are always wrong.
For example I am Galician, a huge part of my culture is alcohol so a lot of people say "every Galician is an alcoholic" which is simply not true ( I don't drink unless I am in a social setting and don't usually get drunk)
When you mix critique with generalisation it becomes something else and that is not ok. >

How am I generalizing? >

I am not saying you are. What I am saying is that often people do and try to blame it on "so they think they are above critique" >

I agree. This is a brave and valid question. I think that no one is above analysis and criticism. >

Thank you for understanding 👊 >

i agree with this with all minorities >

I agree, being a minority shouldn’t exclude you from others’ critique. >


being a minority shouldn’t exclude you from others’ critique.

When has it ever lol. >


A lot of the people behind the Atlantic behind the Atlantic slave trade were right handed but nobody wants to bring it up🧐 when did right handed people become the only group of people above critique?

We generally don't blame people today for what people with slight similarity did hundreds of years ago. 
Think for a moment are Jews never criticized? Even for events that happen south of Syria and north of Egypt for example? What is different there? >


We generally don't blame people today for what people with slight similarity did hundreds of years ago.

yh this bits not true at all. is islamophobia not still on the rise because of 9/11?? >

That happened a hundred years ago? >

OP doesn’t care about Jewish people 
cut to chris tucker >

You got balls just to say this. Agreed and downvoted i guess
To answer your question, critique was made immoral (not illegal) after WW2, when France amd UK stole Palestine and gave it to the Jews as a prize for having been genocided >

I mean it depends what your criticising, if your criticising a Jewish individual for their actions then sure go for it but if your criticising "the Jews" as a group then Yeah it's probably antisemitism. >

I dislile how jewism and muslims mutilate baby buys penises. Is that antisemitism? >

I'm not sure, but I do know that plenty of people who aren't Jewish or Muslim still choose to have their children circumcised so it seems odd to single them out.
Also for future reference it's Judaism not jewism >

In my country its usaly only religious grupes who do it. Its not like usa where its normal for all other people doing it. But i am not singel them out. Its more like an exemoel.  I think doing it for everybody ageins infants should be punished. >

Hoo boy here we go >

I got permanently banned from a sub for saying that some of what Israel was doing to Palestinians had been done to Jews by Nazis, such as taking their homes & livelihoods & I wondered why we were admonished to never forget when they seemingly had. Of course not to the same extent. Criticizing Israel is dangerous. >

Go to bed Kanye >

Ah shit here we go again.
"For example alot of people don't know this but alot of the people behind the atlantic slave trade were Jewish but nobody wants to bring it up"
False, while there were jews that were involved and also owned slaves they didn't "dominant " the area and on average owned fewer slaves than others, and it's wildely agreed upon scholars and your myth is only believed by the likes of KKK leaders and Farrakhan.
I just wonder also why u pieces of shit always love to mention that but on the same note forget the role of jewish leaders during the civil rights era? >


I just wonder also why u pieces of shit always love to mention that but on the same note forget the role of jewish leaders during the civil rights era?

Um, Malcolm X famously criticized Jewish people. Where do you think Farrakhan got his info from?
Malcolm X didn't really hate Jewish people, he was pissed off that black Americans were still living in slums and segregated while the holocaust was already done. He cared about the issues that were present to him, not something in the past. He recanted his association to the NOI shortly before he was killed.
What's messed up is I can send you a bunch of links to speeches that aren't my opinion, but actual history, and i'll get banned for sharing them. It's impossible to have a sane discussion about Americans bullshit race issues without being accused of bigotry.
American media and social academics forced the African-American label on your 'black' demographic in the late 80s after Jesse Jackson used it in a speech to followers of Louis Farrakhan who is a black nationalist. That's a curious way to integrate. Did a bang up job of getting 'black' people out of the hood. >

Y'know who was also had a big part of the atlantic slave trade?
Rich, african families. There's still an estimated 900.000 slaves in Africa. Owned by african people. >

What does that have to do with jews participation of the slave trade?? We all know Africans sold other Africans >

Because people also say that it's racist to include the africans in all the horrible shit they've done to people. People have done horrible shit throughout time. Hell, my ancestors plundered, killed and raped most of the brittish isles for decades. 
Does this mean that the now-living jews should bear the consequences of what their ancestors did 4-500 years ago? Should I be incriminated and sent to prison for what my ancestors did to the celtics under the Danelaw? It's like the government of Barbados now wanting Benedict Cumberbatch to pay and go to prison for what his ancestors did. Only him, not any of his relatives. It's so damn stupid, because he actively advocates for non-slavery and equality, yet he's seen as a slave owning monster because his ancestors from 300+ years ago.
We cannot move forward if people keep living in the past. We cannot concern ourselves with the past. We can learn from our past. We have to focus on what is now and work towards what will be. >

I only brought up the slave trade as an example of how people critique Christian whites for it but not the jews obviously Modern day everyone is different >

Mostly because they just had a mass genocide within the last 70 years. >

No one is above critique, but the whole thing is just a sickening combo of a "big sore thumb issue" and some kind of "reverse witch-hunting"; in other words, another "Taboo" thing nobody has the right to discuss and deconstruct. >

since when did this sub turn into r/offmychest? it’s for UNPOPULAR opinions, not random rants. >

All religions make the world a worse place cause war and death for imaginary fairy tales >

I feel like this post is accidentally tone deaf as fuck. No one ought to be above critique, certainly, but this seems tinged with personal bias/blinders. If a group is historically persecuted, there may be a healthy pushback to give that group support. But ultimately, people of all sorts fuck up and groups of all sorts can be responsible for atrocities. Not sure this is an unpopular opinion, since I think the underlying belief is that no one should be above critique. I think it’s foolish to say Jews are culturally above critique, lol >

Okay Kanye >

Here we go 🚶‍♀️ >

You do realize that even right now you are criticizing them. & then you instantly try to paint yourself like a victim when called out just trying to "prove" how you "cant criticize them". There is a huge difference between criticism and spouting nazi propaganda. 
Explain to me what it is like to be ignorant enough to believe one group of people is behind all other minority struggles. 
You sound like the type of person that likes to pit minorities against each other to distract from something. >

How am I spreading nazi propaganda? A Jewish guy commented and said he agrees >

Oh. Case close then I guess. >


For example alot of people don't know this but alot of the people behind the atlantic slave trade were Jewish but nobody wants to bring it up

Yeah, that's not true. Sure, Jews participated in the slave trade, but not disproportionally. 
Kindly back up you claim. >

hello roger waters 🤗🤗 I'm your biggest fan. the final cut is my fav album >

It's very underrated 😂 >

Alright, let's see the sources. >

Never said they were the majority only they were involved >

Black people also participated in the slave trade, both in America and in Africa? Should we criticize black people for it? Or the individuals? Some whites were abolitionists, and others were slavers. Do we blame the abolitionists for slavery because they're white? Do you see how this makes no sense? >

We can't critique anyone from the past because they are all dead but obviously yes we should critique those blacks >

So we agree we should critique individual Jews? >

huh? who said they weren't? this just feels like anti Semitism with extra steps >

To say that it was “the Jews” behind ANYTHING is littered with inaccuracies due to the fact that there’s THOUSANDS of niche Jewish communities that all agree and disagree on EVERYTHING. There’s nothing you can criticize that other people WITHIN Jewish culture hasn’t already. So if you want to talk about a generalized group like that, you’re just antisemitic. >

I never said the jews were behind anything 🙄 >

“A lot of the people behind the Atlantic slave trade were Jewish” but you didn’t say they were behind anything🙄 >

But they were they even had ships >

So now that you got called out on your bullshit, you want to double down on your antisemitic rhetoric? You want to talk about shitty slave-traders, that’s great. Talk about them. You want to say that most of the slave traders were Jewish, with little to no specificity or point to the conversation? You’re going to have an issue because you’re speaking like a guy that learned his talking points straight out of Mein Kempf >

Yeah man I'm done with your Bs I never said they were the majority I said alot were involved >

Breaking News: Redditor gets destroyed across all threads on his Antisemitic Post. Decides they’re done with someone’s BS when they can not win the argument >

You know who’s really in charge by who you’re not allowed to criticise. >

Except “not allowed” isn’t really set in stone, is it?  Jews have been persecuted through much of modern history.  We are in a place where socially in the west it’s frowned upon to shit on minorities, but that’s only a reaction to years of shitting on said minorities.
So have the jews only been in charge for the last few years?  Are you really not allowed to criticize them, because it seems you are right now,  nothing terrible is going to happen to you because of it.
Or is that just a clever saying to justify bigotry akin to “stereotypes exist for a reason”? >

Every group of people have been persecuted in modern history address the fact Jewish people were involved in the trans-atlantic slave trade >

You keep bringing this point up. I don't know what it has to do with anything. Were the individuals who were involved in the slave trade doing it because they were Jewish ( as in guided by Jewish morals and values), or did they happen to be Jewish? There's a huge difference. >

What do you mean happen to be Jewish? All I'm saying is Jewish people were involved idk why you guys are trying to dance around that >

Imagine I wrote a thread "black people are not above critique". 
That'd be some sus ass bigot shit to say. >

But don't you know they were involved in the slave trade? >

Oof >

Real >

As a non practicing Jews myself, I can tell you this is a bullshit opinion. Jews are not above reproach. But most of the time, when people say negative things about them it is usually done in a way "Jews rule the world" or "Jews control everything" and anything else in between is noise combined with politics regarding Israel.
Also, there is another group who people are far more scared to talk about then Jews. >

Muslims at least that’s what I see. >

Mel Gibson agrees...... >

jewish people as individuals? no obviously no on is above critique. but generalizing all jewish people? no one should be generalized. >

to be fair to OP,
anti-semitism IS a very unpopular opinion >

Came in here to say I’m Jewish and agree with your sentiment and thought this was funny. Just the other day I had a moment where I almost called the police cuz I was thinking “man I hate those really annoying Jewish neighbors.” 
Then I read the comments and got super sad. >

Yeah man idk why it's like this I feel like if we all are equal as humans we should all be allowed to critique one another! Thanks for understanding thought 👊 >

Because they run the world >

found the antisemite >

OP must surely be Kyrie Irving or Kanye 😂 >

Neither is Islam >


When did Jewish people become the only group of people to be above critique?

From the moment they learned to exploit victimhood. >

Yeah but I don't see what makes jews so special? >

Its one of the oldest and most relevant religions in the western world. Jewish people are in positions of power in all the mayor media and world relevant organization. Some of the richest families in the world are jewish and they control the wealtiest banks. >

Yeah I checked the people behind the news and alot were Jewish but they are most likely Zionists