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So apparently you can just arrest insurrectionists without letting them just walk away and go home?
I was at the São Paulo protest. Don't worry world, we got it covered. Bolsonaro will be in jail as soon as the US deports him. >

As it should be
I'm honestly disgusted with how much shit Trump has done. I legit had one guy think "So you think we should just lock up Trump and throw away the key for the rest of his life" and I said "Yes, absolutely" and he goes "Why?" and I said "cause he tried to over throw our democracy"
Don't think he was happy with my direct and to the point answer.
You deal with the terrorists (yes I'm calling them terrorists) and their leader (Bolsonaro) as your laws dedicate and dont' use kid gloves.
Also I'm super confident Biden has 0 fucking patience for Bolsonaro and will probably kick him back to Brazil very soon. >

Trump was on tape telling Georgia officials to give him enough votes to win the state, and the justice department is still like "oh man oh geez idk i think we should investigate it maybe?" He was literally committing election fraud and nothing has happened to him. The country is beyond saving. >

On fucking tape. Nixon must be rolling in his grave 
History will judge this injustice >

When Trump dies and meets Nixon in hell, Nixon will be like "you did what? And they didn't do anything to you? How the hell'd you manage that?" >

"Stacked the courts first.  Duh.  Can't get in trouble if you own the guys who's job it is to punish you." >

How did he stack the courts? It was just unfortunate that justices died and he took an opportunity anyone would >

When I come across comments like this it gives me two thoughts.
One, our country is absolutely fucked. And two, I really wish I were able to be this checked out from reality sometimes. 
This is some Patrick Starr level shit >

Literally have no voice today because of how loud I was shouting "NO AMNESTY!"
I regret absolutely nothing. 
Jail Bolsonaro. >

I’m Brazilian but have lived in the U.S. since I was a kid. 
Where I live I rarely encounter other Brazilians but recently I traveled and was walking down the street and saw a large group of people dressed in Brazilian colors. In the USA, for my whole life, that has meant one thing: Soccer fans!
I was so excited myself about the upcoming World Cup and my face lit up until I got closer and realized what they were: Bolsonaro supporters, rudely blocking the sidewalk, shouting dumb shit at random Americans, making such a scene and behaving so idiotically that now when I see actual Brazilian soccer fans my heart sinks because I’m worried it’s just more right-wing idiots. 
So fuck this guy, him and his idiot supporters have taken something from me, taken something from all of us. >

It's the same with US colors now. They used to mean you were celebrating 4th of July or thought that flag shirt looked nice at the gift shop. Now if you see a crowd of US flag wearing people there's a 90% chance they're also carrying Trump 2024 and anti-abortion signs. >

What should have happened in every town and city Jan 7 in the US. 
Edit: and what 97% of the Republican Members of Congress failed to do EVER >

The left is too busy playing defense all the goddamn time >

I'm sorry the what? Did you just call Democrats the left? Bahaha. The Dems are a center-right party. They are not "the left". >

...what the fuck are you talking about? >

The Democrats are the closest thing to a left-wing party that the US has but they are liberals at best. >

What the fuck does that have to do with anything I said? I never even mentioned Democrats
Is this a bunch of bots? >

If you mean "the left" as a bloc of people with opinions then the idea that we're all playing defense is ridiculous. 
The only people always stuck playing defense are the Democrats. It seemed a fair assumption to make. 
Sorry for making you think I'm a bot I guess. >

Your argument is silly. The dems are the left in the United States. They may not be as far left as you want, but this is also not relevant at all to the conversation. >

Those idiots should be locked up and Bolsonaro should be strung up. The U.S. would be better off if that’s how we’d handled the MAGA terrorists on 1/6. >

Looks like supporters of the right only believe elections are fair when they win. If they lose its stolen, their new calling card. If it was left wing supporters storming these government buildings I reckon many many would have been shot in Brazil, or if the left did a January 6 then many more of them would have died. >

I don’t know man when the left long in 2016 the left was claiming mass cheating but the difference between y’all and them is that they decided to attack governmental buildings while politicians were inside >

The left also claimed Russia collusion.
Which was objectively true, people in Trumps campaign have been tried and convicted for their involvement with Russia.  They never got a smoking gun to Trump himself so the right likes to pretend that means the rest of it never happened. >

Collusion is not a legally defined term, so no it's not objectively true. 
It's absolutely something I believe but we can't say it's objectively true. >

Which should indicate I'm talking about the nonlegal concept of the word then.  Trumps campaign colluded with Russia; they took money from and acted in concert with them.  The charges that resulted in are not themselves called "collusion", but the proof presented to make those charges happens is the definition of collusion. >

The charges prove that the campaign benefited from Russian activities, and on a balance of probabilities they almost certainly were working with the Russians, but that has never been proven beyond reasonable doubt. 
Again, I agree with you that this is most likely what happened but we can't claim it's objectively true. >


but that has never been proven beyond reasonable doubt.

That's literally what criminal convictions mean.  What do you think they were convicted of otherwise? >

Nobody that I'm aware of has actually been charged or convicted for anything like "collusion" with Russia. Everyone I'm aware of has been convicted of sundry offences with regard to them obstructing the investigation into the alleged collusion. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. 
So once again while I 100% believe that these people are guilty of working with Russia in a manner that could be described as collusion, we cannot say that it is objectively true that they did so. >

Manafort was convicted of handling the money, just off the top of my head.  There's more to the convictions than obstruction charges. >

Man the US failed on a massive level when we look at the exact same scenarios around the world. Doesn’t matter the subject. This is the newest example. >

DOJ too scared to indict Trump, who is somehow above the law, apparently >

Man, America looks really weak in comparison for our handling of our capital riot. >

Especially the public response. You need to start getting organized and protesting. >

The other side shows up with guns and itchy fingers. Then what? We bring our own guns and make it an actual battle? Not disputing your point just saying it would escalate things.
We should have stopped Fox News 20 years ago. Now I'm so frustrated with the 30% of us that are right wing nutjobs that the idea of fighting them sounds appealing... which is exactly what the people distributing the propaganda want.
Feel pretty stuck at this point. I want to talk sense into them but hitting them with a stick would be more effective and satisfying. >

Well roll over then. You guys can’t complain about how things are there and then throw your hands up in the air and do nothing about it. >

Wow such an insightful contribution. >

I already told you go get organized and protest. You made up excuses. >

Just a little more context to non-brazilians
Brazil had a US-backed military dictatorship that lasted from 1964 to 1985, in that period, a lot of brazilians that fought the dictatorship were kidnapped, tortured and murdered and had his bodies covered, a lot of them have not been found until now
In the redemocratization process, the military leaders passed an amnesty law, that pretty much forgives all crimes commited by the government, so pretty much all of the dictators, tortures and murderes in the armed forces were never punished by their crimes like happened in our south american brothers (go see Argentina 1985, a really great movie that covers the Argenitinian dictators trial).
So, after the Lula election, the former Brazil president Michel Temer (that couped a legitimally elected Dilma Rousseff) starts claiming for a new amnesty law in orders to reunite the country after the four years of Bolsonaro, since them, "sem anistia" (no amnesty in portuguese) became a popular claim, also seen in Lula inauguration 
A little more context: Bolsonaro, when were just a congressman, in the section that vote the coup against Rousseff dedicated his vote for Carlos Alberto Brilhante Ustra, the guy who tortured Rousseff during the dictatorship, so in locals like r/brasil is now common to be things like "if we have arrested the guy who praise a torturer in congress, none of this would happened" >

I have said this since 1/6 happened that Trump will never see any consequences for his actions. The DoJ is too meek and worried about it looking “political” to do anything. The day America starts punishing the rich for their crimes will be the day our country starts the journey back towards being a 1st world country. Prove me wrong >

☝️this comment here >

So much for the far-right antifa claim.  :-)   
The destruction done by the far-right should be prosecuted, as the far-right demonstrated that they have no respect for anything, regardless of political allegiance. >

You know this is brazil, not the US.   
Rioters that bring destruction of property should be persecuted, no matter if they are left-leaning or right-leaning. >

You are aware left and right leaning are not inherently American political terms right..? >

Antifa…. wikipedia even says United States >

Ok wow, Brazil is an unexpected addition to the “countries with more stable democracy than the US” list, but here we are. >

Is it really surprising? >

If you've been following Brazilian politics, yes. >

After four years of Bolsonaro trying to erode our democracy and our institutions I too was joyfully surprised by how energetically Lula and the judiciary power responded to the attacks. >

America has at least one good lesson to offer the world:  Prosecute insurrection and treason; don't let the traitors to democracy go unpunished; and certainly don't let the traitors keep their jobs in government. >

Really, from what I see most of the January 6th  crowd got off with either light punishment or nothing?
Seems the US is threading very carefully in relations to these traitors. >

*Terrorists >

Good! Shit like what happened in Brasilia shouldn’t be tolerated, just like Jan 6 in the US. >

Isn’t this like the 3rd time this century storming the same building has happened? >

Good on Brazil, way to be a  b̶a̶c̶o̶n̶ beacon democracy. The USA could learn a thing or two here on how to handle this kind of thing.
Edit: typo >

now I need a “bacon for democracy” flag >

Sound like the name of a burger from a non American fastfood chain that sells "American" food.
"I'll have 3 Bacon for Democracy and two Freedom Fries please." >

😋 >

Uh yeah it's the only way forward with strong punishment, leadership of coup sharing cells with them, thorough investigation of government to identify and imprison seditionist sympathizers. See in the US we are too weak to do this our politicians too afraid to put the rich and powerful in prison. Our people are too scared to put pressure on the government for results/justice/stability so we are doomed to fail. Don't be like us. >

Every country needs to declare a war on fascism.  This is getting out of hand. >

Not sure if it’s intentional—but all the picture thumbnails of Bolsonaro supporters I have seen over the past day have been in pure green/yellow and draped with the Brazilian flag. And now this thumbnail where I see like two flags and that’s it, hah.
Just a weird coincidence for me I suppose following the trending Reddit articles. >

Bolsonaro was always using ultra-nationalism as a way to convince people that his government was the only solution to prevent "communism". So the fake news and sensationalism followed this trend of "us vs them", and they basically took our country flag as a way to represent their side. They even say quite frequently "our flag will never be red" in this fight against the supposed "communism". And another important thing to consider is that Lula's political party has a white star in a red background as it's flag, and it's origins are from work unionists. >

Wait, are you describing the equivalent of like the elephant for the Republican Party in the US? Or are they promoting a new national flag entirely?
Thanks for the info, didn’t know that. >

There is no new flag, really. They just use our country flag and even the brazilian soccer t-shirt as an symbol, like if they own it. >

Deja vu >

I wish Americans cared that much about the coup attempt that we just had. We got a whole political party that is going to face zero punishment for it, and now they know where their mistakes were, how their plan failed last time, and that when they get a chance to try again, they won't face any consequences if they fail. And you can see they have not backed off of being insane in the slightest little bit. Just listen to MTG anytime she opens her mouth and realize she's still got her job. What do they want to do as soon as they finish their house, speaker fiasco? Why, investigate the DOJ and FBI for investigating their capitol treason, of course. 
So that's where we're at. With one party openly trying to make this a one party state, Americans completely indifferent to it, and those who even so much as investigate the treason now being treated like they did something wrong, as soon as the traitors got just a little bit of power again. Which, in a sane country, would never happen again, because no one who was complicit in that treason would ever be in a position in the government again. >

YAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! >

How novel, people who try to overthrow the government are immediately held accountable and the citizens demand it. 
Here in America 2 years later we still have no accountability or justice for “democracy” almost being overthrown. 
There’s literally video of trump getting a mob of his supporters in a frenzy to go commit treason and a literal mountain of evidence and trump, the ring leader, is still not behind bars and several people involved were given what amounts to a slap on the wrist. 
America if fucking dumb. Good for your Brazil. >

Lets just be thankful the Far right are as thick as shite. >

Damn right. Show the world how to deal with fascists. All they want or understand is power, so show them power; that is all they understand. 

no you have to let fascists do whatever they want. 

shut up. &/or listen to yourself. >

É nóis! >

Fucking traitors. >

What kind of country would put violent rioters burning down communities in jail??? >

Great they are doing this
Without normal people who defend democracy theres no democracy
Idk why some people want Bolsonaro in Jail, what he did? >

Incited rebellion and anti-democratic values, sabotaged actions against COVID and delayed getting vaccines, constantly attacked minorities and their rights, hid his corruption with constant 100-year secrecy in personal and official documents, openly idolegized a torturer of the democracy and declared that in the middle of Congress during Dilma's impeachment, used government funds to favor his election and that of his allies, claimed fraud in the elections without any proof, changed the Federal Police leader whenever there was any attempt of investigating him or his family's actions and the list goes on... >

This season is getting good! >

First rule of rev0l ution is to succeed or oyu might as well kill yourself afterwards. >

No amnesty! That's what America needs when it comes to the january6th terrorists. Throw em in jail and let em rot. >

Warms my Heart! >

Yah US politicians... you taking notes? >

Jail for the coward Bolsonero who is hiding in a US hospital right now like the baby boy who started a fight but then left his friends to get beat up. >

I wish the US defended our democracy half as passionately as the Brazilians protect theirs >

That didn’t go exactly as planned,…