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  OK, so you would be for making it mandatory for women that are not pregnant, with a free pass if they get pregnant while serving?
context: I don't mind compulsory military service, in Greece it's also one year. What I do mind is when you spend 97% of your time doing jack shit and 3% of your time actually training and whatnot. I'd rather have 4 months of more intense military boot camp than a year of looking at the ceiling and considering moving to the Netherlands. >
  
  Most conscript militaries lack in terms of doctrine, not duration. 
   When most of the time is spent on indoctrination and doing regimental shit, with little focus on practicality, theres no point in lengthening the term of service, just a waste of time >
  
  I always wondered why the duration foe some conscripts militaries was so short. 1 year to 18 months seems reasonable...4 months shockingly short >
  
  4 months honestly is good enough if its just condensed into practical things like phyiscal training,  marksmanship with only essential fieldcraft like first aid. 
  To me, the ideal conscript is something like the average gun tuber. But most countries who use conscription implement it as a form of indoctrination,  not for actual fighting soo >
  
  I guess that makes sense. I can only relate it to my US Army basic training.....24 years ago....fuck om getting old. But that was at the infantry school so it seemed pretty intense to teenage me >
  
  Of course, the strength of the US military lies in its doctrine. Every army has the fair share of BS regimentation and indoctrination, but at least in US troops do get significantly more range time and phyiscal training. >
  
  The one time I got to train with non Americans...
  And this was in 2000 mind you....it was with Germans back when they still had conscripts... at that time we did have better training ths. The guys we Bundesweher guys we worked with. >
  
  I spent 2 weeks in high school in Taiwan as a part of a foreign exchange program. This seems like a natural step since their schools have many militaristic elements. For all school assemblies the school I visited would line up in columns carrying flags like you would see in the military. The school also had a member of the military on staff and seemed to lead a pretty intense ROTC program. The military was also fairly visible and everywhere because they were on edge. This was all in 2019 I imagine this has all gotten more intense since then >
  
  Military officers were stationed at Taiwan's schools due to historical reasons.
  Taiwan was under 38 years of martial law, and under autocratic rule, a police state. In order to ensure proper state indoctrination, military officers were installed in schools, and they kept an eye out for dissenting teachers and students.
  The Taiwanese game "Detention" is set in that background, telling a story of state oppression mixed with Taiwanese folklore elements.
  After the end of martial law and democratization, the military officers in general gradually became more of an guardian father figure to students, often taking care of the more troublesome kids who got in trouble out of school, sometimes paying out of their pocket in emergencies to help students, so they remained part of the education system until very recently.
  Now they have stopped deploying new officers to shools, but existing officers will serve in their existing schools until they retire. >
  
  School-stationed military officer. Kind of like an extra step above your usual dean in terms of intimidation factor. Though in actuality the dean was usually the one dragging problem students by the neck into staff offices for disciplinary actions as opposed to the officers. Guess the uniforms are intimidating enough as a deterrent. The officers are also responsible for leading courses on military training stuff. I was in a junior high school that shared a campus with a senior high and occasionally you’d see senior high students training with formation, how to hold or aim a dummy rifle and stuff. Iirc it’s mandatory military training once a week for senior high students. >
  
  Damn, that's pretty short. My compulsory service was only 2 years and 8 months, and I got slack from the older guys that it's "nothing" because they did 3 years. >
  
  Lol this reminds me of my second day in the army. I felt experienced compared to the guys that just arrived that morning because I had a few more hours of experience. >
  
  I always think policies like this one are inherently chickenhawkish.
  Literally half the people who vote on this shit don't feel its impact directly.
  If they're actually serious about this being a national security measure, then extend compulsory military service to women.  Why are we pretending that there isn't a role for women in defending your nation against invasion in modern warfare? >
  
  Men are expendable, women are not.
  Yet women are oppressed by men.
  Feminists want equality, but not that kind of equality. >
  
  For all the bullshit your spewing, mind sourcing where women are against female conscription? Because I have no seen zero evidence of that. >
  
  They actually make sound arguments here.