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  I always wondered why the IRS only hired Indian accented collection agents!  I keep telling them I only deal in gold and they need to show up on my doorstep to collect!
context: “Hello this is the IRS calling. The Police are on the way to arrest you, please give me your SSN and wire us $10,000 to avoid going to jail” >
  
  No it’s gift cards. The irs demands iTunes gift cards. >
  
  My IRS guy wanted steam gift cards, must be a regional thing >
  
  Really? Well I'm from Utica and I've never heard of the IRS wanting Steamed giftcards. >
  
  Steamed gift cards are more of an Albany currency. >
  
  My brain prompted, "it's a regional dependency." >
  
  The world telephone network is hoplessly outdated. It should not be possible to spoof phone numbers. >
  
  Fixing that would fix so many scam related problems. >
  
  The people being scammed are usually elderly. The phone call could literally be labelled "SCAM", and they would still answer, wondering who it is. >
  
  It is so cruel how they attack the elderly. They called my grandfather saying I was in jail and he needed to bail me out. This man was a genius and self made businessman in his youth but we all lose mental fortitude with age. He was so scared I was in jail and was only stopped when his son came and said I'm fine and to call me. I was in class so I didn't answer for a while so despite my mom's assurances I was fine he wouldn't stop panicking till he heard my voice. They are cruel and attack the emotions of the vulnerable. >
  
  They called my grandma years ago (local scam not in the US) and she was like, what did he do, and they guy said attempted robbery and she was like, 'ok leave him there, he needs to learn a lesson' >
  
  They told my grandma I was arrested with a trunk full of drugs and needed bail that night. I hope that guy gets anal warts. >
  
  The worst part is when you call these assholes out their reaction is just “fuck you, you’re and American you’re rich, you don’t need your money and you deserve it anyways.” >
  
  Ugh, this shit is the worst. I got called by someone claiming to be "from Internal Revenue Service" and was bored so I let the call go to a person. The first thing I say is 'Just to confirm, you are claiming to be a representative of the Internal Revenue Service' and I am just met with a curt "Fuck You" and the call ending. Like it's my fault they are shitty >
  
  I got one who was going to “remove my credit card debt.” I took him for a ride as I went to “search for my wallet” and get it out of my other pair of pants (totally, for real), and revealed that I “only” had $4,000 in credit card debt (not sure what number is normal to these folks), and he eventually figured out that I was yanking his chain. Dude kept going “fuck you, sir! Fuck you, sir! Hang up, sir! Fuck you, sir!” As I laughed hysterically going, “awwww, does baby hate it when he gets cawwed on his widdle scams? Is baby sad he couldn’t steal my cweddit cawd? Poor baby, oooo!”
  My other favorite is to just say “your parents lie about you when friends ask how you’re doing. That’s how disgusted they are with you.” Buddy of mine is Hindi and has assured me that that cuts pretty deep in Indian culture. >
  
  I had one threaten to rape me at my home address. I pretended to be a homosexual who would be thrilled by such an encounter. Not that there's anything wrong with being a homosexual. >
  
  Unfortunately it also happens at businesses.
  I work for a state college IT and we did a fake scam phishing email to the whole college, after everyone completed mandatory training on phishing. We do this every year. The email we send out is as obviously scammy as possible, including spelling errors and not being related to anything about the college itself.
  We still had over 100 faculty/staff members open the email, follow the fake scam link, and put in their credit card information on the page that popped up.
  It's a big problem and an even bigger liability. Wish we could just outright fire everyone who fell for that scam, because those folks are those who follow links that get their entire computer randomware'd. We have a room in the college with all the hard drives we have had to pull because they were locked down with ransomware. >
  
  100 COLLEGE faculty and staff fell for it!? Damn >
  
  Yea that isn't good sign for our education system that professors and the like are that gullible >
  
  From my experience they think they are so much more brilliant than everyone else that it’s inconceivable they could get scammed. >
  
  I don’t understand how anyone thinks an email asking for them to go type credit card information in somewhere is legit. Would you give that to someone who knocked on the door or stopped you on the sidewalk because they say they are the government or some shit? No. Then why are you doing it for an email?
  It's inconceivable. Especially the farther along in time we get and how people in their 40s and 50s now have been using computers their entire lives. This isn't like 2002 where most people over like age 40 had extremely poor tech literacy because they didn't use it growing up. 
  Then again I'm always blown away that someone in their 30s or 40s now doesn't know how to copy and paste text. It's like not knowing how to use a telephone in 1980. >
  
  It’s amazing. The ex girlfriend of my friend bill who had recently passed away sent $10k in gift cards to India. She was like 65 and of sound mind. She told me about it a few days later. I was like, Kate you know that I work in fraud and AML! Why didn’t you call me! >
  
  When I get a call where they start off immediately (with a thick Indian accent) how much tax liability is dangerous and failure to reply is punishable by law, then ask me to confirm my name... Just say "well, you called me, therefore you know my name and liability, please tell me who I am?" and they just hang up. So rude, was in the mood to have fun. >
  
  If you’re hungry for more there’s a couple YT channels dedicated purely to trolling these clowns and wasting hours of their time so that they can’t steal from actual people. One even hacked into their security cams and coordinated with the Indian police to arrest the whole call center. >
  
  Jim Browning
  Trilogy Media
  Kitboga
  Scammer Payback >
  
  Scammer Payback gets downright mean sometimes...it's great, and entirely deserved. >
  
  Agreed. Considering that a group of scammers took my grandpa's entire life savings (not an insignificant amount of money) under the guise of him winning a 5 million PCH sweepstakes, and being a large contributor to his passing, I want nothing but cruelty for these scammers. >
  
  I keep getting Indian IRS calls lol. “This is John smith from the IRS” the names are always hilarious stereotypes. >
  
  not as egregious as that, but i recently got one from "the office of visa and mastercard" - who knew they have one office for the two monster credit card companies!  i told the scammer that and he proceeded to curse me out. >
  
  You'd think he'd be grateful for the info smh. >
  
  I, for one, would like to normalize not telling scammers about the obvious mistakes they are making. >
  
  It's not really a mistake. Most people who are sharp enough to realise that those two wouldn't share an office wouldn't fall for the scam anyways. Name dropping both companies prevents people from retorting that they don't have that type of card, which is a much bigger concern among people gullible enough to fall for it. Mass-scale scams often do things like that to sacrifice believability for efficiency. >
  
  We all might wonder how anyone can be gullible enough to fall for these. But seniors with cognitive decline are easy targets. >
  
  Very much so.  My mom's phone would get these all the time before we got spam filtering enabled.  Even now sometimes one gets through.
  If I end up talking to them, I ask them how they sleep at night doing what they're doing?  How would they feel if it was their parent being scammed?  And so forth.  That at least makes me feel better when they hang up on me even if it doesn't do much else. >
  
  If you wanna feel even better, look up Kitboga on YouTube. He spends hours, sometimes days, wasting scammers time using fake bank accounts and voice acting. It's a hell of a watch >
  
  There are a few others out there that play the scammer’s games to raise hell on them. Scammer payback is actually hacking the scammer’s computers and deleting all of their computer data while also coping it to give to the authorities and try and contact the victims to save them before they send off money. >
  
  I’ve been bingeing Scammer Payback for a few days. I think he’s not actually hacking anything, he’s just using a feature or AnyDesk or TeamViewer or whatever remote desktop software they use to gain access to the scammer’s computer and delete their files. He put out a video where he deleted 300,000 files from a scammer’s computer. That could’ve been tens of thousands of people saved.
  Edit: In another video he says "Since a lot of scammers watch this channel, we're not going to show you exactly how we gain access to their systems." So we don't know how they gain access to their systems exactly. >
  
  How does he get remote access to the scammers computer? Wouldn't the scammer have to allow that on his end? >
  
  That exactly what happens. He will get the connection request from the scammer on his virtual machine, then he sends a connection request of his own to the scammer's computer from either another VM or his main computer, while saying something like "it's asking for confirmation". The idea is that the scammer doesn't read his pop-up top closely and just assumes it's the confirmation request.
  If the scammer denies the request, he says something like "it says confirmation request cancelled", and tries again. If the scammer accepts the connection request, he quickly accepts the request on his VM. What you end up with is his computer remotely connected to the scammer's computer which is remotely connected to his VM. From there he can start downloading, deleting, and uploading files to the scammer's computer. >
  
  Last week I got a call from one, and I took him for a ride for a half hour before asking him if he was familiar with the word pierogi and he instantly told me to fuck my father and hung up.
  If you’re unfamiliar, Scammer Payback on YouTube is a riot and a half. >
  
  Pierogi are delicious. He’s missing out. >
  
  They do this stuff openly. They are located in proper offices and pay off the police.
  We really need to change things to make these scams very, very hard to do. >
  
  I try to keep these guys on the phone as long as I can and when they realize what I’m doing they get so ridiculously vulgar. “Where’s your husband, is he ready to fuck your mouth? Can we both fuck you?!” followed by hysterical laughter — recent fav of mine. >
  
  I usually get them to small talk about sports and since it's India it inevitably leads to cricket. Then I tell them the Pakistani cricket team is way better than the Indian one.
  They usually lose their shit at that. >
  
  That is freaking genius, might have to borrow it! >
  
  But... we have Kitboga >
  
  Just wait a moment >
  
  Ma'am. WHY YOU REDEEM? >
  
  You DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. M... ma'am listen to me. LISTEN TO ME.
  HELLO
  hElLo
  HELlo HELLOOOO
  DO NOT PRESSS THAT BUTTON
  aAAAAhhH... benchot. >
  
  that 'benchot" always get me, reeks sheer frustration and defeat! >
  
  Same thing happening in Australia guys, sickening to scam the elderly, rotten fucks. >
  
  Yeah but rookie number compared to the pokies scamming pensioners out of every last cent >
  
  
  "it may not be a national security concern yet, but the reputation (of a country) is involved, and we don’t want India to suffer on that count,” Daud told the publication.
  
  I don't know but seems like people on internet already make that kind of stereotype, hopefully they still manage to catch those criminals. >
  
  Most regions in India where it is popular (Kolkata) are corrupt and the police take bribes to look the other way. It will never stop unless the US takes action. Currently, education and spreading information is the only solution. >
  
  Which isn’t a solution because Indian scammers target the elderly. >
  
  They got pretty good before I moved. I mean, until I heard them speak. Come on now you aren't "Mike". But the number would be from somewhere important so I'd answer. Dudes got lazy after a while and started spoofing my own number and that's just insulting. I definitely didn't call myself.. or did I? Guess I should answer >
  
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