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  SK patriot AA failed to intercept them and SK even lost an aircraft trying to take them out.
context: Five North Korean drones crossed into South Korean airspace on Monday, prompting the South Korean military to deploy fighter jets and attack helicopters to the inter-Korean border region, with some of them crossing into the North Korean territory. >
  
  In order to grasp the advantage, they can only deploy more advanced radar systems and interception systems. Of course, I admit that this is very difficult, because the drone's target is so small. Maybe some scientist can invent such a thing. Or electromagnetic waves interfere with those drones, causing them to lose their directional control, or just fall down. >
  
  Targeted EMP weapons already exist for this exact purpose. >
  
  That sounds like something out of a sci-fi film >
  
  Is that an HDMI port? No USB C?
  Edit: sorry has a minor stroke >
  
  Ohh boy. Time to get my 2023 bingo card ready >
  
  Aint shit gonna happen, neither side wants it >
  
  The problem with dumb "displays of power" is eventually mistakes happen. >
  
  If they can sink the Cheonan and shell Yeongpyeong, aint shit gonna happen >
  
  I was talking about accidents being interpreted as a first strike.
  For example, instead of a near flyby past enemy jets actually colliding. >
  
  Different situation, but the Ukrainian air defense misfire that killed 2 in Poland, was immediately blamed on Russia with no evidence, and nearly started ww3 comes to mind here. >
  
  It nowhere near started anything. There was a bit drama in shitty news outlets, that’s it. >
  
  Literally Everywhere reported on it, most blamed Russia or said they were being blamed. Several countries were beating war drums the next day, calling for anywhere between more aid to full scale war, it very well could have sparked ww3 had cooler heads not prevailed. >
  
  Russia started this war. Ukraine was defending itself. Russia is to blame for this war. >
  
  I never said they weren't. I never blamed Ukrane. I never took Russian side. I simply stated facts. Ukranes defense system misfired, I believe 2 people died in Poland but don't quote me on that, Russia was immediately blamed by most media, those that didn't blame Russia immediately reported on others blaming them, while a small number of independent news places did their job and clearly stated "we don't know who did this yet, here's how people are responding".
  If we had basically any republican other than trump, or half the democrats that ran last time, in the White House, I guarantee you we would have put in a no fly zone back when every idiot and their kids were parroting that without knowing what it actually means, which would have escalated to full scale war within a week. 
  Yall wanna stop putting words in my mouth now? >
  
  Goddamit it who gave the north koreans drone technology? This WILL NOT end well >
  
  Amazon cyber Monday sales were just that good this year. >
  
  Yeah, in today's online world, drones can be purchased from any channel, and the price is not expensive. Therefore, the blockade cannot be 100%. >
  
  Sorry if it sounds hardcore, but I'm in for South Korea to proper fuck up Kim jong I. Why do we even tolerate such dictator which could be overthrow in a night. Imagine how many people suffer from this dictator there.... It's mind-blowing >
  
  Because war results in Seol being shelled, and millions of displaced , uneducated, lows skilled, brainwashed North Koreans fleeing the country. War is not a video game. >
  
  Who talked about video games ? Some dictators deserve to die, I can name a few if you need. I don't talk about starting an open conflict with Nk but to target that particular mf. Did a war started when kadhafi got fucked ? No. You think the majority of NK civils would give their life to defend him, fuck no, they would just wake up from their torpor. Same goes with Putin >
  
  Knowing North Korea, they probably just want to prove that they have technology and aren’t still stuck in the 80s >
  
  China flying into Taiwan airspace, North Korea flying into SK airspace and Iran talking some shit.  2023 going to be fun! >
  
  The Chess Board is in motion... >
  
  Mmmm... cheese board.... >
  
  The Luigi board is in motion >
  
  So we got North and South Korea. Russia and Ukraine. And Taiwan and China with a sprinkle of American involvement. Wonderful. It’s all coming together. >
  
  What will be the final dish served? >
  
  So that's what Russia gave them for the ammo. >
  
  So, how close are we to a straight up war at this point? >
  
  There were a lot more serious incidents that still didn’t lead to war. During 2010, North Korea launched artillery strikes on a South Korean island leading to several deaths and also launched a torpedo on a South Korean Navy Vessel which also led to 46 Sailors dying. This is very very mild. >
  
  This is an overall mild incident, but it still increases the already very high tensions between the Koreas and further increases the chance of a conflict. >
  
  North Korea is not equipped for full-scale war with the South, no matter how much they rattle their sabres >
  
  North Korea fucking around with South Korea
  China fucking around with Taiwan (and implicitly, the US)
  China fucking around with COVID and possible new mutations.
  Russia fucking around with Ukraine and the west
  …
  Who is going to find out on 2023? Anyone has their bingo card prepared yet? >
  
  The US is fucking around with China, Russia, DPRK and Iran. 
  2023 is going to be great >
  
  Swedish communist who throats Putin complaining about the US? Shocking. >
  
  Also the situation in Ukraine is a bit more complicated than Putin bad. Putin invade Ukraine unprovoked. 
  I bet you haven’t heard of the coup in 2014 or the Minsk agreements. >
  
  Very familiar with Maiden protests, the coup, and Minsk I and Minsk II agreements.
  Familiar with the annexation of Crimea in 2014.
  Familiar with Russian doctrine of displacing residents, filling it sympathizers, and coming in to "rescue" them.
  Familiar with the Russo-Georgian war, another Putin war which looks oddly similar to 2022 Ukraine. Prop up 2 separate regions of pro-russian separatists with weapons, then invade under the guise of defending their newly recognized "independence". >
  
  Then you should know Ukraine didn’t abide to promises. They violated the cease fire (LPR & DPR did too ofcourse) nor did they grant the Donbass republics autonomy, wich they too promised when signed the agreements. 
  I ain’t a so called ”Putin supporter” but I don’t support Ukraine neither but I sympathise with the Russians living in Ukraine wich is being oppressed by the Ukrainian goverment. I also sympathise with Russia being reluctant to Nato’s eastern expansion, since Nato isn’t exactly Russia friendly and they aint a defensive alliance no matter how much they tend argue otherwise. >
  
  Ukraine by Minsk 1 (September 2014) had already lost the entirety of Crimea to totally-not-Russian-forces (~March 2014) as a result of the pro-Russian Yanukovych being ejected as president (Feb 2014).
  The ceasefire was never truly respected on either side, this is correct, Russian backed DPR leader was pissed they lost some of their territories before the agreement was signed and was like:
  
  Kramatorsk, Mariupol, Sloviansk will be ours.
  We are ready to capture them.
  Heavy battles are not excluded
  
  By November DPR and LPR held elections that even the OSCE chairman said was against the letter and spirit of the Minsk protocol, and DPR leaders basically said they didn't agree with it anymore and there would be no further ceasefire talks. Remember again, at this point Ukraine has just lost a HUGE chunk of coastal territory to totally-not-Russia, Russia is ACTIVELY arming and training and participating in the DPR and LPR.
  Feb 2015, Minsk II was signed, which was absurdly crap, not sure if you've read the tldr but it was full of easy to break, confusing wording. Putin tried to push the ceasefire back so they could blow up Ukranian troops encircled in some city. 
  Both Ukrainian and DPR fighters basically were like "were not going to stop fighting in this city either way" since it didn't apply to that city, and DPR continued shelling the city until it fell, and retook some of those territories it claimed it would.
  So where are we, Ukraine should just suck it up that their entire peninsula was taken, and that they have russian backed separatists destabilizing the eastern regions? Even Putin's aid on Ukraine said that russias belief was that Ukraine should be reformed as a confederation and by doing so would be a strike at the west.
  And if you are a fan of russian war history, look up how Putin handled Georgia in 2008, this shit is almost identical. Back multiple rebel groups, war pushes out citizens, backfill with Russians, demand votes for independence, escalate to war.
  Then let's add in some extra juicyness, just before Russia stepped into Crimea and heavily backed the DPR and LPR, massive gas reserves were found on Ukraine territory. Enough that Ukraine could become independent from Russian gas and actually become a major exporter to Europe. Ukraine becoming independent and possibly ease into their stranglehold on EU energy was not going to happen on Putin's watch.
  What's the fear of NATO? Yes, NATO exists because of Russia, but NATO doesn't defend aggressors, if a NATO country attacks Russia, that is on them. If a NATO country gets attacked without reason, it's game on. But... nobody wants Russia, it would be like wanting to take North Korea, you'd get a bunch of moron yokels and gopniks to deal with, Russia can deal with their people themselves.
  Russia had the opportunity to re-enter the world stage as a post-soviet country, become an economic powerhouse chilling on billions in gas and establishing serious trade parters, but its internal power structure never changed from Klepto Oligarch Strongman Authoritarian and they fostered conflict along their borders which naturally increase NATO training and funding of their own. Literally all Russia had to do is give back the territories they've taken from Ukraine and stop meddling and shit would have been over, but right now they're a 2x failed country aiming for 3x. It's so bleak that even the children of the Russian elites don't even live in russia, everyone truly connected goes to school in the west, lives in the west, and does business in the west.
  I sympathize with everyone caught up in the war, the Ukranians, the Russian civilians who got thrown into the meat grinder by order of their great leader. But if one thing is certain, Russian is not a steward of a stable region along European borders. They are so full of shit with their words and threats and doublespeak they've proven that they are incompetent in their entire structure from top to bottom. 
  My friends who artists in UA got murdered during this war when their house got struck by Russian arty, it's fucking sad. >
  
  Citizens of Nk must be watching like a moon landing because they’ve never seen anythinv like it just for SK to push them back >
  
  Lol you think they are any the wiser? You think that other then in some propaganda pieces or a parade they get to see any of this? >
  
  I made joke >
  
  So did the other guy's parents >
  
  Hey! We don’t allow violence here! >
  
  I was in Korea in 76”-77” when they had the tree day war. U.S soldiers were supervising some Korean workers who were trimming trees that obstructed the view on the DMZ. North Korean soldiers showed up and killed some of the soldiers. It was a pretty tense time. >
  
  Went on a tour of the DMZ and they still talk about that incident. You can feel the tension in the air there. >
  
  Very dangerous place to serve. Things get stirred up very easily there. >
  
  What the hell is the north using for drones?  A poor slob hanging from a kite with binoculars? >
  
  2023 bingo card has a few death spots on it without North Korea, I may get a whole row of skull and crossbones >
  
  You're too optimistic >
  
  NK drones? … Just wait until the rubber bands unwind and they’ll crash harmlessly. >
  
  The fat fuck dictator at it again. >
  
  South Korea needs to start being a little more agressive with these retaliatory measures. N Korea try these missile tests and every once in awhile hit sparsely populated areas in S Korea injuring or even killing its citizens. These attacks need to be dealt with more forcefully. >
  
  
  N Korea try these missile tests and every once in awhile hit sparsely populated areas in S Korea injuring or even killing its citizens. 
  
  There has never been an instance of an NK missile hitting South Korea, let alone causing casualties. >
  
  Who told you this? >
  
  Ok then. Link a reliable source. >
  
  Google Bombardment of Yeonpyeong.  I'm Korean and there were other incidences in the past. >
  
  That wasn’t missile though. So technically not a counterexample. >
  
  What do you want me to do about this? >
  
  N. Korea  buried in snow. Bomb their missile launch sites. >
  
  Missiles are launched from mobile platforms. There are no sites to bomb, you'd have to hunt down and destroy every single TEL in an area the size of the state of New York, in one of the most mountainous and underground bunker-dense countries on the planet. >
  
  I wanna leave Korea already. I did my year of service. 🥺 Please don't act up Kim, I wanna go home to my wife. >
  
  Wait these guys have drones now? I thought North Koreans are backwards as heck. >
  
  They're always buying and trading with China and Russia >
  
  We are edging closer by the day to planetary catastrophe folks. >
  
  Interesting, I'm curious what kind of drone tech NK has & where they got it. 
  Purchase some commercial from the west and copy or China would be my guess. >
  
  I’m guessing China or Russia >
  
  I love the flagpole battle they got going on there. >
  
  North Korea really be trying all kinds of thing at the beginning/end of every year and then they fuck off and try again >
  
  Serious question, if its in their airspace, what's stopping the south Koreans from shooting the drones down? >
  
  They apparently did try to shoot them down, but just failed at doing so. >
  
  If Kim had a gang name it would be Tiny. >
  
  Can south Korea just go around and just block every port of north Korea and be like try now bish >
  
  What’s up with all the loser communist countries acting up? Russia, China, North Korea… seems like they are in cahoots >
  
  Drone?
  Shoot that thing down. >
  
  This is getting really old. Just have an all out war and end it or shut the fuck up. >
  
  North and South Korea are still at war. They never signed an armistice to end hostilities, just a cease fire that's lasted a really long time.