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  Are you drunk?
context: It's provocative. It gets the people('s party) going! >
  
  We’re skating to one song, and one song only >
  
  I ball so hard, motherfuckers wanna fine me >
  
  But first _____ gotta find me >
  
  Its probably just a PR diversion from Covid disaster inside the country. >
  
  They've been doing shit like this for years.  It isn't because of covid.. >
  
  Yeah.. they learned a lot from the United States during those last 30 years.. >
  
  What's your point? >
  
  I wouldn't say the US is as bad as Russia but you are right, we definitely have our flaws. >
  
  Especially looking at russias past .. lol.. >
  
  A dog that keeps barking does not have the balls to bite. >
  
  Basically what you're saying is that you want China to be like the US and invade others? >
  
  Well China continues to build a force of assault carriers and continues to improve their amphibious capability, so what else could they possibly be building up their forces for if not an invasion of Taiwan?
  If their military was purely interested self-defense, it would look more like Europe or Japan. Instead, they are increasingly invested in power projection and war fighting, similar to the force structure of the U.S. >
  
  China is surrounded by vassal states of the US like Japan and South Korea, one of them is an archipielago and the other is a peninsula, both full of US military bases. Could this possibly explain why they invest heavily in their amphibious capability? >
  
  Could it? It could. 
  But hostile US sentiment to China was not pre-determined at the times those bases were constructed and mutual-defense treaties were signed. It was hoped that through open markets and free trade that China would liberalize and become more democratic, more inclusive, more Western. China was on this track, or at least on less aggressive path, until Xi. 
  Up until Xi, US-China relations were not nearly as cold as they are now.
  And what is the logic implying that they are building up their military in response to US bases and “vassal” states? Japan and Korea are not US vassals, despite what idiotic nationalists may say. Are they going to defend themselves by invading and destroying these bases? If that was the case, why the focus on amphibious assault?
  They are clearly modeling themselves to be similar to the US military. Capable of projecting force overseas and defending overseas interests. The carriers and assault carriers aren’t for show, they’re in order to project force. >
  
  If they want to be similar to the US  they need to invade someone to prove their complete disregard for the sovereignity of weaker, non-submissive countries. Until that happens, such comparisons are idiotic and entirely speculative. Facts show China aims to be a very different sort of global superpower than the US. >
  
  Well you’re stupid because they already did. 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War. 
  
  
  speculative
  
  
  China has imperialist history. They are a civilization that goes back centuries. They predate Rome. At one point, nearly all of Asia paid them tribute. 
  Facts show China will be like any other global superpower. Assuming they’ll be different because you assign morality to their actions as a power is wrong and the same sort of logic people use to discredit the US and their actions. >
  
  bro the US is directly involved in the majority of coups and attempted coups going on in the world for the past 100 years, they're actively involved in the coup that happened this month in Peru and the subsequent cover up by their propaganda machinery. the only two countries that comes close to their disregard for human life and pathological self-righteousness are the UK and Israel. the US foreign policy can only be described as psychopathic and is only justifiable with a blatant disregard for any semblance of morality, like you do. China might end up doing the same but so far they're on a different path. >
  
  Applying morality to the actions of states is a mistake. Countries don’t do things for good or bad reasons. They have an interest. 
  
  
  bro
  
  
  Bro, you’re stupid if you think US involvement in regime change isn’t the most alarmed and called out thing ever. You think you’re special? 
  What school of geopolitics do you follow? The Black and White School of Morality? The Reddit School of Binary Good and Bad?
  Also, the US post-WWII order has been the least malicious of any previous empire. 
  Your Ameri-centric understanding of history is gross. Close minded. >
  
  you think cynicism is a virtue, it's not. the rest of the world would absolutely not do what the US does if they were in their position. you're clearly a lost cause since you have no qualms about using euphemisms like "regime change" which belong right next to "final solution" and "enhanced interrogation".
  all your bootlicking won't change the imminent and accelerating crumbling of the US, already coming apart at the seams. all they can do to delay the inevitable is start shit elsewhere to rile up nationalism, like the proxy war they started in Ukraine and what they're trying to start with China, but these are only delays. when the US crumbles the world will finally have peace and prosperity. >
  
  China doesn't want none. They're just attempting to flex. >
  
  These incursions are designed to normalize this behavior and over the next couple of years will slowly grow in size of number of planes.  This way, when China does decide to attack, Tiawan will not have enough time to launch all their planes in the air. >
  
  US will know weeks before they know China will attempt an actual invasion so it wont be an actual secret and plenty of time for US to put their own presence in the area known. China wont be able to invade with just an air force. Taiwans beaches will be mined to shit in time for China to make a landing. >
  
  Yea a seaborne invasion set to rival the D-Day landings isn’t going to sneak up on us. We’ll all know well in advance. >
  
  But what if they stage a false invasion to a different shore with inflatable vehicles and cardboard cutouts? >
  
  If we fell for that with all the tech we have in this day and age we’d deserve to lose, honestly. That would be the greatest tactical blunder in many years >
  
  Especially when we (I think) invented it >
  
  Except it's the US that's giving their final warning here >
  
  Not so sure...  The US released classified internal memos dated prior to china's escalation saying that Chinese attack on Taiwan would be met with full on war.
  Now that itself may be a game, but it sent a pretty strong message.  The US isn't fucking around with Taiwan.  
  That said, are we RRALLY gonna get into a full on satellite-destroying war with China over Taiwan? I'd guess not, but my confidence isn't high. >
  
  
  That said, are we RRALLY gonna get into a full on satellite-destroying war with China over Taiwan?
  
  The problem is that China won't stop with Taiwan. If the US allowed China to take Taiwan without a fight, it would not only be the end of US dominance in the Indo-Pacific, it would pose a critical threat numerous countries in the region which rely on America for defense.
  China would be emboldened, and America's allies in the region would have no choice but to assume that the US would not be able to effectively defend them against inevitable Chinese aggression targeted at them. They would act accordingly, creating a very precarious situation that could easily spiral out of control.
  Also, it's questionable as to whether China could attack and take Taiwan without striking Japanese territory (namely Okinawa) in the process. If China bets that the US will sit idly by, it could be a fatal mistake, which is why many scenarios contemplate a pre-emptive Chinese attack on Okinawa. The US and Japan of course have a mutual defense treaty, so China has little room for error. >
  
  This makes sense. I'd like to add that  if Taiwan is invaded, the US fighting and losing might actually be a better outcome than not fighting at all. Not fighting at all could even weaken or break US alliances outside of Asia because they aren't keeping their alliances. This could lead to a lot of chaos in the world and a breakdown of the existing world order or it could change almost nothing. >
  
  Hence the absolute necessity for status quo. The largest factor is the US and the PRC maintain the largest economic partnership in the world. Sanctions or war would throw the global economy into chaos. That being said, the CCP does not have the offensive capability for a siege on Taiwan even without US or Japanese support hence all its final warnings remain just that, empty threats. I'll be concerned once r/Taiwan is concerned, events like this are posted daily over there. >
  
  You would see the massive amount of troop transports they would have to build and stash somewhere month in advance. >
  
  Bingo. The Russian Invasion of Ukraine was accurately predicted by monitoring troop buildups in Belarus and Belgorod Oblast, the same will be with the PRC. Naval buildups in Fuzhou, Xiamen, and Quanzhou will be the first signs after an increase in propaganda and blatant refusal for diplomacy by the CCP if ever. >
  
  It's time to build a city wall. >
  
  As well it should be. Keep an eye on those fuckers - they're tricky. >
  
  China will loss a slugfest >
  
  I think China has seen the writing on the wall and knows an invasion would be disastrous for them.  But then again, Xi has made himself emperor for life, and that almost always leads to a dictator trap situation where the top guy makes shit decisions that fuck over everybody, and then frequently tries to do big outlandish things to make up for making everything shitty, so you never know.  We could see a situation where Xi tanks the Chinese economy, the people are pissed off, so he goes after Taiwan to try to compensate.
  edit: or as the kids are saying, going full Putin >
  
  Ie: Russia‘s tactic >
  
  Fuck the CCP. >
  
  I'm getting a serious case of deja vu. >
  
  Need to get some Mongolians. >
  
  If Taiwan waits long enough the Communist regime might collapse on its own. >
  
  Another month, another reminder that China is uppity about Taiwan and every single news outlet has to cash in on the fear mongering opportunities. >
  
  Seems like the entire world is determined to head to war soon… >
  
  Lets say the US and Taiwan held a press conference announcing the operational status of a US nuclear weapon stationed in Taiwan. 
  Is that checkmate? >
  
  that's probably war. >
  
  One hundred percent >
  
  The world is ill-prepared for the international economic and diplomatic crisis that would ensure from a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. 
  Unfortunately, it appears that Beijing has taken this consideration into account to bolster its case for war: Because the West would then find it difficult to intervene. >
  
  Not a good time China to start a war >
  
  For chinas crumbling economy and Covid wave. It’s a good time. >
  
  CrUmBlInG eCoNoMy >
  
  I mean I wouldn’t say crumbling, but they aren’t in a good place financially due to covid policies and the fact that they are primarily a manufacturing country. >
  
  Saber rattling, as per usual. Xi has a pandemic on his hands and needs a distraction.  Somebody get him some milk and cookies, please. >
  
  Maybe they are just trying to get away from the COVID infested cities! >
  
  Bunch of posturing maniacs.
  The lot of them. >
  
  As usual, neither side will do something, lol. >
  
  China won't push because they'll get hammered, and the US won't push it unless the bribe money stops coming in. >
  
  Who is supposed to be bribing the US to defend Taiwan? >
  
  Every hardware company dependent on TSMC production, and any company writing software that depends on that hardware to run. >
  
  So what, the entire economy is bribing the US? Isn't that just called a democracy responding to its voter base? >
  
  Yes. 
  But also No. 
  Even in the US, companies aren't citizens and can't vote for representatives. They do however control most of the elected representatives through bribery. >
  
  Since when has the US been worried about Taiwan? The US supported the KMT in China, the US supported the KMT when they fled to Taiwan, the US supported the KMT when they brutally ruled on the island resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of Taiwanese, even going so far as to call Taiwan ‘Free China’. The reason the US supported the KMT was because the KMT believed they would re-enter China in some ruling capacity and the US assumed they would too, and wanted the influence to shape China events that went with that. Was only after realizing the KMT wasn’t going to return as they hoped that the US dug into their armory and found the democracy and human rights flags and knowing it would irk China, started waving them furiously hoping to start a conflict with a still then much weaker China. That never happened and now plan C has seemingly commenced with the US increasingly selling Taiwan easily replaced weapons as well as encouraging them to export their technological prowess. Europe also catching on and wanting a piece of the pie. The US has a lot to answer for to the Taiwanese people. And if a conflict started and China was weakened, REGARDLESS of whether Taiwan was decimated or not, American troops would return home heros. Taiwanese welfare is not Americas priority, and never has been. Weakening China, their perceived geopolitical enemy, is, and always has been, Americas priority which is also why the US demonizes China at every possible opportunity, regardless of what China does. >
  
  
  
  The reason the US supported the KMT was because the KMT believed they would re-enter China in some ruling capacity and the US assumed they would too, and wanted the influence to shape China events that went with that.
  
  
  That’s simply wrong — Chiang Kai-Shek wanted a flotilla of American ships to help ferry KMT soldiers back onto the mainland, which the Americans refused. As it turns out, American leadership weren’t big fans of Chiang Kai-Shek. >
  
  So the US was peeved they wouldn’t remain a force in China. Go figure. But quickly regrouped and supported them once they were in Taiwan and the KMT went about building up their capabilities for a return. Again…go figure. >
  
  No — the U.S. could have assisted Chiang Kai-Shek’s bid to retake the mainland, but they refused. >
  
  Except only that the US actually did assist Chiang Kai Shek….in….China. >
  
  Except YOU were talking about Taiwan. >
  
  They didn’t support Chiang Kai Shek in Taiwan? So the tactical nuclear weapons the US had on the island in one of the US bases with their troops situated on the island during the KMTs reign of terror was for…? >
  
  There was no support in assisting Chiang Kai Shek’s bid to re-take the mainland. >
  
  So the US supported Chiang Kai Shek in China, supported him on the island, put military assets on the island to aid the KMT by mainly dissuading China in chasing him to the island, and built military bases on the island , and so financial support, and all while the island was under brutal KMT rule ….and it was a charitable act with no expectations? It definitely wasn’t charitable to the people of Taiwan, and no expectations from the US…..mmm….interesting. >
  
  On the contrary, the US invested heavily in Taiwan, which helped transform it into a modern economy as one of the “Four East Asian Tigers.”
  In fact, the economic assistance given to Taiwan by the United States was large ($1.4 billion) and was instrumental in helping it achieve self-sustaining economic growth.
  It also, helped create massive industrial infrastructure, communications, and developed the educational system. >
  
  Taiwan will win credibility in the west if invaded. >
  
  The USA and India should get together and snuff out this little problem. >
  
  As if it was that easy. >
  
  Not with that attitude, it won't. >
  
  Attitude doesn’t matter. China is a major contributor in global economy and should conflicts escalate their military is not like Russian one. Besides, nukes. >
  
  Agreed, China is Much more to be feared than Russia could ever dream of being feared. >
  
  USA sails in international waters. Free passage, perfectly legal.
  China flies in international airspace. Provocative military activity. >
  
  Ironic given all of America's provocative military activity and exercises near China >
  
  Lol! As if the US is to blame for China's response! >
  
  maybe that has something to do with the unlawful claims of land China is making >
  
  and not to mention bullying fishing boats away and their incursions into the surrounding country's territorial waters >
  
  I’ve lived in Taiwan for fifty years and read headlines like this for longer than that. Ho hum. 
  China prefers diplomacy to confrontation. If Xi had to attack Taiwan, that will leave an indelible blot on his name in history. In a way, Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is good for Taiwan, because Xi sees that if he invaded, he would erase decades of diplomacy overnight. 
  They don’t need to invade. Hackers shut off Taipei’s power and the game is over in a few days. >
  
  Yeah dude, Taiwan will allow itself to be annexed if it loses power for a few days.  You're a very serious person with very serious takes. >
  
  Like you understand the situation? >
  
  I'm pretty sure I understand the no-power does not mean immediate surrender part of the situation.
  It amazes me that you CCP stooges act so confident about this stuff.  Reminds me of a certain quote from a certain RAF commander in WWII. >
  
  I have spent most of my life in Taiwan, so I am hardly a fan of the CCP. Of course I don’t know as much about Taiwan as you do since you have most likely never been here and don’t speak any of the languages, but I do know that what I said about the power has come up as a serious topic among people who actually live in Taipei. >
  
  Yeah sure thing bro. >
  
  Follow the money.  Check out the last 3 months of blue chip stocks like Apple, Google, Tesla, Microsoft, etc.  Next check out contractors that specialize in supplying the US Navy (Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics and Raytheon).  You can get an idea what’s on deck. >
  
  Anyone else gonna be super pissed if this tiny island nation right off the coast of China causes WW3? Let China have it. >
  
  Letting China have the main production of semi conductors would destroy the US and the west. Do you have any idea how much we rely on semiconductors? >
  
  Im sure if we put a fraction of the budget a war would cost we could solve the semiconductor problem. >
  
  No, it is not a trivial problem to overcome.  The current estimate is $500 billion dollars and two decades, to catch up to the point where Taiwan is right now.
  Do you think we could survive without chips for 2 decades?
  Not to mention that Taiwan/China would then still be 2 decades ahead of us at that point! >
  
  ... Nancy Pelosi just visited, deliberately and knowingly causing escalating tensions for basically no reason. The hypocrisy of the US never fails to amaze me. >
  
  The worse China’s internal problems are, such as Covid and unrest, the more frequent they launch these distractions across the strait. >
  
  2023 is going to suuuuuuuuuck >
  
  Uhoh. I've heard this before. Before Russia invaded Ukraine. >
  
  Evil twin...Winnie the Pooh copying his big brother Pooptin...intimidation smaller neighbor. >
  
  Australia and the US  jump in between the second china makes a move. Also the fact that taiwan like israel has not had nukes since the 70's  ( wink wink) makes this even more interesting. >
  
  I just don’t see how a military that has never been tested before by any real military threats in decades, can somehow pull off one of the largest, if not largest, modern amphibious assaults in history. Like Russia, China is a paper tiger. Once tested, they will fall. I don’t care how advance they keep saying the Chinese has become. Does this mean not worry? No, but you are delusional if think China can really do this successfully. Like Russia, it’ll end up costing them in the long run. >
  
  Isn't China dangerous af? We should just let them do what they want no? >
  
  Sometimes I wonder if all the aid (supplies and ammunition ) we are giving Ukraine has depleted America’s military hardware. And if it has, has this entered the mind of the Chinese military? >
  
  Every time I thought human could not be worse, China would slap my face letting me know I was wrong. >
  
  Fox News says 42 planes plus a bunch troops....that's more than a drill. >
  
  Say if China was to actually invade, what would the rest of the world do? >
  
  We always worried about someone else’s bullshit >
  
  I've posted twice and both times it's shown posted and I come back it's gone.. 🤔 only found 1 article with the possibility of the truth on this. 71 fighters plus a boatloads of troops isn't Just an exercise.... >
  
  Is this one of those incursions where they are actually flying over China but Taiwan includes it part of their territory? >
  
  No, they are more refering to China launching dozens of missles directly offshore and surrounding Taiwan. >
  
  I mean, we are sailing battle ships though the straits of Taiwan. But that somehow gets ignored. >
  
  Stupid, sexy Chinese military. >
  
  If you were China why would you not do it right now. The economic impact is minor, the world is already caught up with Ukraine where any response would be diminished by half and I doubt the U.S. has the stomach to actually engage China directly. The U.S. would probably supply arms to Taiwan(what’s left) and I doubt the Taiwanese would have anywhere near the same success as Ukraine. >
  
  Reminds me of the Bush presidency saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. >
  
  Concerned what? When did US become a sentimental girl? Worry about this and that all day long.
   That's just a Chinese version of American behavior.
  Strong economy and a powerful fleet is the real guarantee. Otherwise we can only CONCERNED. >
  
  Are you drunk? >
  
  “Concerned”. Boy that’ll show them. I bet they’ll stop shoving themselves in everyone’s business right away because the US is concerned. >
  
  
  It's provocative. It gets the people('s party) going! >
  
  We’re skating to one song, and one song only >
  
  I ball so hard, motherfuckers wanna fine me >
  
  But first _____ gotta find me >
  
  Its probably just a PR diversion from Covid disaster inside the country. >
  
  They've been doing shit like this for years.  It isn't because of covid.. >
  
  Yeah.. they learned a lot from the United States during those last 30 years.. >
  
  What's your point? >
  
  I wouldn't say the US is as bad as Russia but you are right, we definitely have our flaws. >
  
  Especially looking at russias past .. lol.. >
  
  A dog that keeps barking does not have the balls to bite. >
  
  Basically what you're saying is that you want China to be like the US and invade others? >
  
  Well China continues to build a force of assault carriers and continues to improve their amphibious capability, so what else could they possibly be building up their forces for if not an invasion of Taiwan?
  If their military was purely interested self-defense, it would look more like Europe or Japan. Instead, they are increasingly invested in power projection and war fighting, similar to the force structure of the U.S. >
  
  China is surrounded by vassal states of the US like Japan and South Korea, one of them is an archipielago and the other is a peninsula, both full of US military bases. Could this possibly explain why they invest heavily in their amphibious capability? >
  
  Could it? It could. 
  But hostile US sentiment to China was not pre-determined at the times those bases were constructed and mutual-defense treaties were signed. It was hoped that through open markets and free trade that China would liberalize and become more democratic, more inclusive, more Western. China was on this track, or at least on less aggressive path, until Xi. 
  Up until Xi, US-China relations were not nearly as cold as they are now.
  And what is the logic implying that they are building up their military in response to US bases and “vassal” states? Japan and Korea are not US vassals, despite what idiotic nationalists may say. Are they going to defend themselves by invading and destroying these bases? If that was the case, why the focus on amphibious assault?
  They are clearly modeling themselves to be similar to the US military. Capable of projecting force overseas and defending overseas interests. The carriers and assault carriers aren’t for show, they’re in order to project force. >
  
  If they want to be similar to the US  they need to invade someone to prove their complete disregard for the sovereignity of weaker, non-submissive countries. Until that happens, such comparisons are idiotic and entirely speculative. Facts show China aims to be a very different sort of global superpower than the US. >
  
  Well you’re stupid because they already did. 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War. 
  
  
  speculative
  
  
  China has imperialist history. They are a civilization that goes back centuries. They predate Rome. At one point, nearly all of Asia paid them tribute. 
  Facts show China will be like any other global superpower. Assuming they’ll be different because you assign morality to their actions as a power is wrong and the same sort of logic people use to discredit the US and their actions. >
  
  bro the US is directly involved in the majority of coups and attempted coups going on in the world for the past 100 years, they're actively involved in the coup that happened this month in Peru and the subsequent cover up by their propaganda machinery. the only two countries that comes close to their disregard for human life and pathological self-righteousness are the UK and Israel. the US foreign policy can only be described as psychopathic and is only justifiable with a blatant disregard for any semblance of morality, like you do. China might end up doing the same but so far they're on a different path. >
  
  Applying morality to the actions of states is a mistake. Countries don’t do things for good or bad reasons. They have an interest. 
  
  
  bro
  
  
  Bro, you’re stupid if you think US involvement in regime change isn’t the most alarmed and called out thing ever. You think you’re special? 
  What school of geopolitics do you follow? The Black and White School of Morality? The Reddit School of Binary Good and Bad?
  Also, the US post-WWII order has been the least malicious of any previous empire. 
  Your Ameri-centric understanding of history is gross. Close minded. >
  
  you think cynicism is a virtue, it's not. the rest of the world would absolutely not do what the US does if they were in their position. you're clearly a lost cause since you have no qualms about using euphemisms like "regime change" which belong right next to "final solution" and "enhanced interrogation".
  all your bootlicking won't change the imminent and accelerating crumbling of the US, already coming apart at the seams. all they can do to delay the inevitable is start shit elsewhere to rile up nationalism, like the proxy war they started in Ukraine and what they're trying to start with China, but these are only delays. when the US crumbles the world will finally have peace and prosperity. >
  
  China doesn't want none. They're just attempting to flex. >
  
  These incursions are designed to normalize this behavior and over the next couple of years will slowly grow in size of number of planes.  This way, when China does decide to attack, Tiawan will not have enough time to launch all their planes in the air. >
  
  US will know weeks before they know China will attempt an actual invasion so it wont be an actual secret and plenty of time for US to put their own presence in the area known. China wont be able to invade with just an air force. Taiwans beaches will be mined to shit in time for China to make a landing. >
  
  Yea a seaborne invasion set to rival the D-Day landings isn’t going to sneak up on us. We’ll all know well in advance. >
  
  But what if they stage a false invasion to a different shore with inflatable vehicles and cardboard cutouts? >
  
  If we fell for that with all the tech we have in this day and age we’d deserve to lose, honestly. That would be the greatest tactical blunder in many years >
  
  Especially when we (I think) invented it >
  
  Except it's the US that's giving their final warning here >
  
  Not so sure...  The US released classified internal memos dated prior to china's escalation saying that Chinese attack on Taiwan would be met with full on war.
  Now that itself may be a game, but it sent a pretty strong message.  The US isn't fucking around with Taiwan.  
  That said, are we RRALLY gonna get into a full on satellite-destroying war with China over Taiwan? I'd guess not, but my confidence isn't high. >
  
  It’s not like all of our CPU’s that are even somewhat advanced are developed in Taiwan or anything.
  Oh wait. 
  We really need TSMC, the US won’t let anything happen to it. >
  
  It's time to build a city wall. >
  
  As well it should be. Keep an eye on those fuckers - they're tricky. >
  
  China will loss a slugfest >
  
  I think China has seen the writing on the wall and knows an invasion would be disastrous for them.  But then again, Xi has made himself emperor for life, and that almost always leads to a dictator trap situation where the top guy makes shit decisions that fuck over everybody, and then frequently tries to do big outlandish things to make up for making everything shitty, so you never know.  We could see a situation where Xi tanks the Chinese economy, the people are pissed off, so he goes after Taiwan to try to compensate.
  edit: or as the kids are saying, going full Putin >
  
  Ie: Russia‘s tactic >
  
  Fuck the CCP. >
  
  I'm getting a serious case of deja vu. >
  
  Need to get some Mongolians. >
  
  If Taiwan waits long enough the Communist regime might collapse on its own. >
  
  Another month, another reminder that China is uppity about Taiwan and every single news outlet has to cash in on the fear mongering opportunities. >
  
  I just don’t see how a military that has never been tested before by any real military threats in decades, can somehow pull off one of the largest, if not largest, modern amphibious assaults in history. Like Russia, China is a paper tiger. Once tested, they will fall. I don’t care how advance they keep saying the Chinese has become. Does this mean not worry? No, but you are delusional if think China can really do this successfully. Like Russia, it’ll end up costing them in the long run. >
  
  Seems like the entire world is determined to head to war soon… >
  
  Lets say the US and Taiwan held a press conference announcing the operational status of a US nuclear weapon stationed in Taiwan. 
  Is that checkmate? >
  
  that's probably war. >
  
  One hundred percent >
  
  The world is ill-prepared for the international economic and diplomatic crisis that would ensure from a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. 
  Unfortunately, it appears that Beijing has taken this consideration into account to bolster its case for war: Because the West would then find it difficult to intervene. >
  
  Not a good time China to start a war >
  
  For chinas crumbling economy and Covid wave. It’s a good time. >
  
  CrUmBlInG eCoNoMy >
  
  I mean I wouldn’t say crumbling, but they aren’t in a good place financially due to covid policies and the fact that they are primarily a manufacturing country. >
  
  Saber rattling, as per usual. Xi has a pandemic on his hands and needs a distraction.  Somebody get him some milk and cookies, please. >
  
  Maybe they are just trying to get away from the COVID infested cities! >
  
  Bunch of posturing maniacs.
  The lot of them. >
  
  As usual, neither side will do something, lol. >
  
  China won't push because they'll get hammered, and the US won't push it unless the bribe money stops coming in. >
  
  Who is supposed to be bribing the US to defend Taiwan? >
  
  Every hardware company dependent on TSMC production, and any company writing software that depends on that hardware to run. >
  
  So what, the entire economy is bribing the US? Isn't that just called a democracy responding to its voter base? >
  
  Yes. 
  But also No. 
  Even in the US, companies aren't citizens and can't vote for representatives. They do however control most of the elected representatives through bribery. >
  
  Since when has the US been worried about Taiwan? The US supported the KMT in China, the US supported the KMT when they fled to Taiwan, the US supported the KMT when they brutally ruled on the island resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of Taiwanese, even going so far as to call Taiwan ‘Free China’. The reason the US supported the KMT was because the KMT believed they would re-enter China in some ruling capacity and the US assumed they would too, and wanted the influence to shape China events that went with that. Was only after realizing the KMT wasn’t going to return as they hoped that the US dug into their armory and found the democracy and human rights flags and knowing it would irk China, started waving them furiously hoping to start a conflict with a still then much weaker China. That never happened and now plan C has seemingly commenced with the US increasingly selling Taiwan easily replaced weapons as well as encouraging them to export their technological prowess. Europe also catching on and wanting a piece of the pie. The US has a lot to answer for to the Taiwanese people. And if a conflict started and China was weakened, REGARDLESS of whether Taiwan was decimated or not, American troops would return home heros. Taiwanese welfare is not Americas priority, and never has been. Weakening China, their perceived geopolitical enemy, is, and always has been, Americas priority which is also why the US demonizes China at every possible opportunity, regardless of what China does. >
  
  
  
  The reason the US supported the KMT was because the KMT believed they would re-enter China in some ruling capacity and the US assumed they would too, and wanted the influence to shape China events that went with that.
  
  
  That’s simply wrong — Chiang Kai-Shek wanted a flotilla of American ships to help ferry KMT soldiers back onto the mainland, which the Americans refused. As it turns out, American leadership weren’t big fans of Chiang Kai-Shek. >
  
  So the US was peeved they wouldn’t remain a force in China. Go figure. But quickly regrouped and supported them once they were in Taiwan and the KMT went about building up their capabilities for a return. Again…go figure. >
  
  No — the U.S. could have assisted Chiang Kai-Shek’s bid to retake the mainland, but they refused. >
  
  Except only that the US actually did assist Chiang Kai Shek….in….China. >
  
  Except YOU were talking about Taiwan. >
  
  They didn’t support Chiang Kai Shek in Taiwan? So the tactical nuclear weapons the US had on the island in one of the US bases with their troops situated on the island during the KMTs reign of terror was for…? >
  
  There was no support in assisting Chiang Kai Shek’s bid to re-take the mainland. >
  
  So the US supported Chiang Kai Shek in China, supported him on the island, put military assets on the island to aid the KMT by mainly dissuading China in chasing him to the island, and built military bases on the island , and so financial support, and all while the island was under brutal KMT rule ….and it was a charitable act with no expectations? It definitely wasn’t charitable to the people of Taiwan, and no expectations from the US…..mmm….interesting. >
  
  On the contrary, the US invested heavily in Taiwan, which helped transform it into a modern economy as one of the “Four East Asian Tigers.”
  In fact, the economic assistance given to Taiwan by the United States was large ($1.4 billion) and was instrumental in helping it achieve self-sustaining economic growth.
  It also, helped create massive industrial infrastructure, communications, and developed the educational system. >
  
  Taiwan will win credibility in the west if invaded. >
  
  The USA and India should get together and snuff out this little problem. >
  
  As if it was that easy. >
  
  Not with that attitude, it won't. >
  
  Attitude doesn’t matter. China is a major contributor in global economy and should conflicts escalate their military is not like Russian one. Besides, nukes. >
  
  Agreed, China is Much more to be feared than Russia could ever dream of being feared. >
  
  USA sails in international waters. Free passage, perfectly legal.
  China flies in international airspace. Provocative military activity. >
  
  Ironic given all of America's provocative military activity and exercises near China >
  
  Lol! As if the US is to blame for China's response! >
  
  maybe that has something to do with the unlawful claims of land China is making >
  
  and not to mention bullying fishing boats away and their incursions into the surrounding country's territorial waters >
  
  I’ve lived in Taiwan for fifty years and read headlines like this for longer than that. Ho hum. 
  China prefers diplomacy to confrontation. If Xi had to attack Taiwan, that will leave an indelible blot on his name in history. In a way, Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is good for Taiwan, because Xi sees that if he invaded, he would erase decades of diplomacy overnight. 
  They don’t need to invade. Hackers shut off Taipei’s power and the game is over in a few days. >
  
  Yeah dude, Taiwan will allow itself to be annexed if it loses power for a few days.  You're a very serious person with very serious takes. >
  
  Like you understand the situation? >
  
  I'm pretty sure I understand the no-power does not mean immediate surrender part of the situation.
  It amazes me that you CCP stooges act so confident about this stuff.  Reminds me of a certain quote from a certain RAF commander in WWII. >
  
  I have spent most of my life in Taiwan, so I am hardly a fan of the CCP. Of course I don’t know as much about Taiwan as you do since you have most likely never been here and don’t speak any of the languages, but I do know that what I said about the power has come up as a serious topic among people who actually live in Taipei. >
  
  Yeah sure thing bro. >
  
  Follow the money.  Check out the last 3 months of blue chip stocks like Apple, Google, Tesla, Microsoft, etc.  Next check out contractors that specialize in supplying the US Navy (Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics and Raytheon).  You can get an idea what’s on deck. >
  
  Anyone else gonna be super pissed if this tiny island nation right off the coast of China causes WW3? Let China have it. >
  
  Letting China have the main production of semi conductors would destroy the US and the west. Do you have any idea how much we rely on semiconductors? >
  
  Im sure if we put a fraction of the budget a war would cost we could solve the semiconductor problem. >
  
  No, it is not a trivial problem to overcome.  The current estimate is $500 billion dollars and two decades, to catch up to the point where Taiwan is right now.
  Do you think we could survive without chips for 2 decades?
  Not to mention that Taiwan/China would then still be 2 decades ahead of us at that point! >
  
  ... Nancy Pelosi just visited, deliberately and knowingly causing escalating tensions for basically no reason. The hypocrisy of the US never fails to amaze me. >
  
  The worse China’s internal problems are, such as Covid and unrest, the more frequent they launch these distractions across the strait. >
  
  2023 is going to suuuuuuuuuck >
  
  Uhoh. I've heard this before. Before Russia invaded Ukraine. >
  
  Evil twin...Winnie the Pooh copying his big brother Pooptin...intimidation smaller neighbor. >
  
  Australia and the US  jump in between the second china makes a move. Also the fact that taiwan like israel has not had nukes since the 70's  ( wink wink) makes this even more interesting. >
  
  Isn't China dangerous af? We should just let them do what they want no? >
  
  Sometimes I wonder if all the aid (supplies and ammunition ) we are giving Ukraine has depleted America’s military hardware. And if it has, has this entered the mind of the Chinese military? >
  
  Every time I thought human could not be worse, China would slap my face letting me know I was wrong. >
  
  Fox News says 42 planes plus a bunch troops....that's more than a drill. >
  
  Say if China was to actually invade, what would the rest of the world do? >
  
  We always worried about someone else’s bullshit >
  
  I've posted twice and both times it's shown posted and I come back it's gone.. 🤔 only found 1 article with the possibility of the truth on this. 71 fighters plus a boatloads of troops isn't Just an exercise.... >
  
  Is this one of those incursions where they are actually flying over China but Taiwan includes it part of their territory? >
  
  No, they are more refering to China launching dozens of missles directly offshore and surrounding Taiwan. >
  
  I mean, we are sailing battle ships though the straits of Taiwan. But that somehow gets ignored. >
  
  Stupid, sexy Chinese military. >
  
  If you were China why would you not do it right now. The economic impact is minor, the world is already caught up with Ukraine where any response would be diminished by half and I doubt the U.S. has the stomach to actually engage China directly. The U.S. would probably supply arms to Taiwan(what’s left) and I doubt the Taiwanese would have anywhere near the same success as Ukraine. >
  
  Reminds me of the Bush presidency saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. >
  
  Concerned what? When did US become a sentimental girl? Worry about this and that all day long.
   That's just a Chinese version of American behavior.
  Strong economy and a powerful fleet is the real guarantee. Otherwise we can only CONCERNED.