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  Oh of course.  I fully expect every President for the foreseeable future be impeached for something the second he or she doesn’t have their party in control of the house.
context: The media is going to do everything they can to make 2024 "the closest presidential race ever" - again. >
  
  And they don't care about the consequences >
  
  Actually they do. They want the President who will cause the most drama, who will generate the most stories they can report on. Major cable news companies like CNN loved that trump got elected. They could constantly report on the shit he did while condemning him for it, all while more and more people tuned in. >
  
  Never mind the fact that the term two party autocracy is an oxymoron, out government is in no way an autocracy. It has an awful lot of problems sure, but saying it’s run by a single, all powerful leader is just flat out false. >
  
  Federalists, democratic republicans, and whigs have all occupied the White House and held majorities in congress. While you may be able to draw some similarities to the current parties they are not the same as Democrats or republicans. >
  
  Same documents. Exact page count provided. The bad reporting on this has been insane. >
  
  Media outlets were used to making money off of the Trump administration. Every day offered a controversy more extreme than the next. (I'm sure I wasn't the only one who bought a Washington Post subscription for the 5 o'clock news drops.)
  Comparatively, the Biden administration has been boring in that they get shit done (e.g., 2021 and 2022 accomplishments) without causing controversy. Compared to Trump refusing to return over 300 classified documents, this story about roughly 20 documents that were promptly returned upon discovery is apples to oranges. >
  
  
  the Biden administration has been boring
  
  Seriously?  2.5 million have crossed the border.  That's the equivalent to the population of Houston. There have been 180,000 fentanyl deaths mostly caused by Mexican cartels at the border.
  People have had a hard time finding baby formula.  Food prices are through the roof.  Afghanistan was a complete disaster leaving the terrorists in control of the country.  Girls in Afghanistan can't even attend secondary school.
  Homelessness is on the rise.  Interest rate increases have made buying a home more difficult.  And rents have increased 12% since Biden took office.
  It's only "boring" if you've had your head in the sand. >
  
  Can you explain exactly how illegal immigration is a bad thing, especially considering population/workforce trends? >
  
  There have been 180,000 fentanyl deaths mostly caused by Mexican cartels at the border. >
  
  Can you expand on how that is relevant to the average illegal immigrant crossing the border to work in the US? >
  
  The average illegal immigrant is paying thousands to the same cartel members that are bringing fentanyl into the country. >
  
  Really? Can you back that up with any data?
  Also, I don't see how that would matter even if it were true. Are you saying that if it weren't for illegal immigration, there wouldn't be cartels doing drug deals? >
  
  We’re never going to hear the fucking end of this ugh >
  
  I'm in a super conservative area and everybody thinks I'm a democrat because I'm not a republican. They've been coming out of the woodwork thinking they can shove it in my face and have some gotcha moment...
  I tell them "Did the guy commit a crime? Put him on trial. Nobody should be immune from the law." Then they act all sad because they didn't get the reaction they wanted.
  I think it's actually a good opportunity to agree, across party lines, that our elected officials should not only be held accountable for their actions, they should be setting a good example. I think we are all tired of the "rules for thee, not for me" bullshit that a certain group seems to enjoy. >
  
  My mom is similar. But I didn’t really like Biden. But I hated trump 1000 times more so I voted Biden.  But she acts like he was my preferred candidate. >
  
  A more complete timeline of Biden documents — when and where they were discovered, and what was done with them — provided by the president’s attorney, Bob Bauer.
  TLDR: They handled it properly
  Nov. 2, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys unexpectedly discovered Obama-Biden documents at the Penn Biden Center. Consistent with statutory requirements, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) was notified of the discovery. For the following eight days, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with NARA and anticipated that NARA would notify the Department of Justice (DOJ), and that DOJ would notify the President's personal attorneys of next steps and the point of contact.
  Nov. 3, 2022 - NARA informed the NARA Inspector General.
  Nov. 4, 2022 -  As stated by the Attorney General, the NARA Inspector General informed DOJ.
  Nov. 9, 2022 - As stated by the Attorney General, DOJ launched an assessment to understand whether documents were mishandled.
  Nov. 10, 2022 - DOJ informed the President's personal attorneys that it had launched the assessment. Once the President's personal
  attorneys heard from DOJ, the President's personal attorneys were in regular contact with DOJ.
  Nov. 14, 2022 - As he stated, the Attorney General assigned US Attorney Lausch to oversee the assessment.
  Dec. 20, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys inspected the Wilmington residence garage and identified a small number of potential records bearing classified markings. Once the President's personal attorneys identified these documents, they stopped their search and informed US Attorney Lausch of the documents found there.
  Dec. 21, 2022 - The President's personal attorneys arranged for DOJ to take possession of, and DOJ did take possession of, the records located in the Wilmington residence garage.
  January 5, 2023 - As stated by the Attorney General, US Attorney Lausch issued an initial report and recommendation to the Attorney General.
  January 11, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys searched the Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach residences for additional records. The President's personal attorneys located a potential record bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, among stored materials inside a room adjacent to the garage. Once the President's personal attorneys found this document, the President's personal attorneys left the document where it was found and suspended their search of the specific space where it was located. Following the search at the Wilmington residence, the attorneys proceeded to the Rehoboth residence and conducted a search there. No potential records were identified at the Rehoboth Beach residence, and the attorneys returned to Washington, D.C. late in the evening.
  January 12, 2023 - The President's personal attorneys, that morning, informed US Attorney Lausch that they had found additional material bearing classified markings at the Wilmington residence, inside the room adjacent to the garage. The President's personal attorneys began the process of arranging for the delivery of that material to DOJ. The Attorney General announced the appointment of Special Counsel Robert K. Hur to conduct an investigation. >
  
  No matter how much you keep spamming this, there is nothing "proper" about this. >
  
  1) This isn't spam, it's important information to further the discussion
  2) Based on this timeline and fact pattern which part do you believe was not handled properly? >
  
  
  Based on this timeline and fact pattern which part do you believe was not handled properly?
  
  How does one 'properly' end up with classified documents in their garage?
  I don't think anyone is arguing that he's improperly handled the documents after them being discovered. But it seems like you're ignoring that it was improper for him to still have them in the first place. >
  
  I don't think that you understand how much stupid bullshit is marked as "classified".  Daily schedules.  Personal correspondence received from ambassadors or foreign dignitaries. Daily briefing material that doesn't even contain any sensitive intelligence information.  On any given day, the Vice President and his staff were likely handed dozens of documents marked as classified, mixed in with hundreds of documents that weren't classified.  I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of Congressional and Executive personnel have some quantity of classified materials that have ended up forgotten in a box somewhere for longer than they should have.  Think about the number of times that you personally have accidentally misplaced important documents or mail.  The only reason why this is even news is because something similar happened with Trump and it took the FBI raiding his house to get him to turn over the documents despite months of requests and waiting for him to just do the right thing. >
  
  Yes, I'm fully aware that there is a bunch of stupid bullshit marked as classified. But we really don't know what this particular instance contained do we?
  If that's the case they shouldn't be marked classified, but that's an entirely separate matter. I just hate the idea of moving the goalposts on this issue. Are there different requirements for the handling of the 'bullshit' classified documents? If there's not, I don't see how this point is relevant
  
  Think about the number of times that you personally have accidentally misplaced important documents or mail.
  
  I don't think comparing the mail of ordinary people to classified documents is an appropriate conversation, as they are entirely different. >
  
  Human nature.
  Something is important, because it's important. If you make everything important, than nothing's important and what's important gets lost.
  Now, I'm not just talking about Joe or his staff, or Trump, or Obama, or Bush. Talking about it all. Not just the person in question, but the people around them will adapt to how they view what's important and what's not.
  I wouldn't be surprised if you went through any number of administrations and found this to be the case.
  Infact, Hoover would've been one of the worst offender.
  Meh. >
  
  Really disappointed in the media for not being upfront about things and trying to blow this out of proportion. It should be investigated but this is getting out of hand >
  
  He broke the law you want them to not cover it? He is going go be impeached over it and hopefully sharing a jail cell with the orange turd for the same thing. >
  
  So can you name the law he broke? >
  
  Willful Retention of National Defense Information 18 U.S.C. § 793(e) (5 counts)
  (793(e) is a modification of the Espionage Act of 1917 made under the McCarran Internal Security Act of 1950) >
  
  If they cant prove Biden asked for the documents and hid them on purpose they have no case and no crime was committed. Just aides packing a few documents by accident >
  
  So the aides are guilty? Do the aides have top secret clearances of the highest levels? If not then why is Biden allowing aides possession of top secret documents? >
  
  1- The documents found were mostly just daily stuff like briefing and call notes. Stuff that aides would have clearance for
  2- They would only be guilty if they can prove it was done on purpose >
  
  
  1- The documents found were mostly just daily stuff like briefing and call notes. Stuff that aides would have clearance for
  
  Do you have a source for this? I thought there were at least some Top Secret documents found, which may not reach the level of clearance that the aides would have. Especially since they had to specifically bring in someone with special clearance to find the rest of the documents at Biden's home. >
  
  Right wing media just loves this shit. >
  
  cnbc is right wing? >
  
  Does not make sense, so your telling me that they haven't even known those documents were missing for the last 6 years or so? >
  
  Yes NARA wasn't aware they were missing. Also this is still the second batch. They've provided us an exact page count is all. >
  
  Sounds like NARA isn't doing its job! >
  
  Nara absolutely needs a better system and more staff it seems, yes. >
  
  Is this just all bullshit?  Like Apples and Oranges?  I read the headlines and my mind is like, well if Biden does it!?
  AND I know the false equivalency...I am just tired of the all the lies.  Also my life isn't getting better.  Where is Universal Healthcare and a stable Social Security.  I vote Democrat down the line, but what does it matter anymore? >
  
  Trump would've blamed Obama. >
  
  The house is going to impeach Biden for this.  That much is guaranteed. >
  
  The house doesn't care what they were going to impeach Biden for tbf