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  Honestly I don't know how I feel about this, yea stopping weapons from attacking Ukraine is a win, but Israel attacking stuff on Iranian territory is not something I support as much as I dislike the Iranian government.
  This is a recipe for disaster, Israel should stick to supporting Ukraine proper not attacking countries that support Russia.
context: Definitely a “nows our chance to fuck Iran” move. >
  
  Iran is currently fucked. Please regard r/NewIran >
  
  It’s still a major power in the region and maybe a nuclear one too; these protests are happening sure - but I see absolutely no sign of an actual coup/revolution happening.  I just think Israel loves an opportunity to flex its military muscle and hitting Iran is an easy target when it comes to how the world will react.
  Edit: Lol just look at this thread, everyone’s like ‘yeah, fuck Iran’ but it’s also like - this nation can just carry out a military strike on this other nation and the world just cheers them on? Something’s off there and it’s not like Israel is doing this to promote the protestors - this is absolutely an attack on the military. >
  
  For context, you need to look at the words and actions of the Iranian regime re: Israel. >
  
  What do you mean? Give me a link. I’m just going from my own perspective but it seems pretty obvious to me that Israel is taking advantage of the current world wide notion of backing Ukraine to capitalize on striking Iran. If you’re taking about how the countries speak to each other - it’s all just talk, even a country like North Korea understands the dance that’s being made. Does it really matter what Iran or Israel says compared to their actions? >
  
  Yeah, I definitely agree. States and forces in the region know who to talk to about getting military aid. >
  
  thats the stuff >
  
  Israel's significant contributions of humanitarian aid to Ukraine. >
  
  Two birds, one stone type stuff. >
  
  Get two birds stoned at once. >
  
  Just remember Leahy, what comes around is all around! >
  
  Obviously it’s more of a “fuck Iran” mentality that a “help Ukraine” mentality but it works for me. >
  
  Israel is realising a multi-year arms sale and weapon development bonanza for Iran may not be a good thing. Maybe the Saudis will get in on the fun, too. >
  
  Saudi is lining up with China as part of the BRICS part of the currency war. I don’t see them doing anything for the good of Ukraine. Just the good of their wallet. >
  
  Saudi Arabia is not part of BRICS, South Africa is. >
  
  Saudi has submitted to join BRICS >
  
  Really? That's news to me. Also kinda weird move, especially since the Saudis are considered to be US allies. >
  
  This is why we need a baseline of truth. Saudi has been playing both sides of the field for 40 years since Nixon sold us out to them for the petrodollar. 
  The fact that they are more than likely responsible, or at least complicit on a state level for 9/11 should have been enough to reevaluate the relationship. 
  The fact that MBS dismembers and flushes journalists down the drain should have been a hard wake up call. 
  But the only thing that actually drew attention was when the KSA aligned to do remittances for oil payments in yuan 20 years into a currency war with China that the USGOV didn’t even notice while it spend billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of US troops to save Saudi from Iran while its princes sat insulted in their ivory towers 
  It’s brutally obvious that KSA only cares about one thing and it’s money. 
  Now the USA is in the extremely precarious position of having to choose whether it actually cares about the ideals it has presented to the world, ie -democracy, freedom of press, freedom of religion, etc, or what we have allowed politics to become.  
  It’s a massive failure of a U.S. foreign policy that is about a half a century outdated. But it’s also a moral failing. 
  When the government of a country is corrupted by money, it loses its moral high ground and allows itself some indulgences with the lesser evil tyrants of the world.  Saudi Arabia will be the inflection point that cost the USA it’s place as a moral authority of democracy in the world. 
  Capitalism only works if you have the self control to overcome greed internally. Once greed is allowed to go unchecked it’s just an accelerated end run. >
  
  The actions of the US pertaining to KSA over the last decade or so have made no sense. At one time we could've argued it's the need for strategically placed allies. But then some the things that have happened since then, some of which you have mentioned, lead me to believe there are elements in US politics - my bet is kingmaking institutions, due to long policy consistency - that have personal investments in the KSA. But I could be wrong, could be a series of corrupt/inept administrations. >
  
  Relevant:
  
  Saudi crown prince says Kushner was "in his pocket" >
  
  Keep in mind the drones and missiles they destroy are also potential threats to Israel >
  
  Honest question, if this is acceptable then what would happen if Russia started attacking us/eu supplies before they reach Ukraine. >
  
  I believe the principal of "fuck around and find out" would apply. Israel can get away with it because what exactly is Iran going to do? If Russia tried that it would trigger retaliation from NATO. 
  Iran and Israel are effectively in a continuous state of conflict anyways, so this is just cheap jabs at Iran to Russia's detriment. >
  
  The Middle East is such a petty reality tv drama >
  
  Good its time every democratic nation put in work against these tyrannical nations who are supporting each others evil. >
  
  Get fucked Iran. >
  
  *Iranian elite. Iran itself is on the verge of a modernist cultural revolution, and we should ABSOLUTELY support them in that, lest they come to revolution with influences from say - Saudi Arabia. Iran's not going to get any better under fundamentalist wahhabi rapist doctrine. >
  
  Oh yeah let's start supporting rebels again never gone wrong in the past few decades cough cough
  Please western countries stay the fuck out of the middle east I'm not waiting for another wave of fucking jihadis. >
  
  They need to stop sending fucking weapons that kill European civilians then. Fuck them. >
  
  oh not like the europeans didn’t send weapons to iraq to kill hundreds of thousands of iranians? >
  
  They already have the infrastructure to pull off ops all over Iran so why not. >
  
  Love it when the A plot and B plot come together >
  
  Fuck that's good lol >
  
  Russia 🤝 Iran 🤝 Palestine >
  
  Israel 🤝 Russia. 
  Russia has allowed Israel to bomb Iran-linked targets especially in Syria in the past. There are a plethora of Russian-Israeli oligarchs in Israel too. Israel is still neutral in this war and their hesitancy to supply weapons to Ukraine is evident that daddy Putin’s wishes must be respected. >
  
  Russia agrees to coordinate with Israel while Israel bombs Iranian weapons shipments going through Syria. They do this so Israel does not accidentally strike Russian soldiers and spark a conflict between them that neither side wants. This is not the same as being friendly, it's just Russia saying "we won't stop you, and we have troops here, here, and here". >
  
  So they coordinate with Russia in the Middle East and refuse to send Ukraine old stockpiles of Hawk missiles that the US has requested them multiple times to do so. Thank you for the lip service. Regardless, of how you want to portray it, that is the closest thing to being another country’s friendly. >
  
  Do you have any source for Israel refusing to send weapons the US requested? I know that the US is transferring weapons that they store in Israel over to Ukraine. But those are controlled by the US, and not by Israel. >
  
  Oh yes, old weapons owned by Israel, not by the US. Because Israel can’t supply Ukraine with weapons, because they need Russia to allow them to bomb Iranian weapon shipments to Hezbollah. I don’t see how that equates to being friends with Russia, a country Israel has a historically awful relationship with. >
  
  Been looking for a reason to poke some Iranians… >
  
  What a weird world. Why is Israel worried, do they honestly think russia has the capacity to confront them in Syria in any meaningful way? 
  Also best not to show indifference to bad actors for short-term gains. >
  
  They can hurt Iran, help Ukraine and look like a hero at the same time. Added bonus is also the protesters in Iran love it too. Killing three birds with one stone and gaining goodwill. >
  
  
  protesters in Iran love it too
  
  Do we have proof of that? I wouldn't be happy if another country attacked the country I was living in even if I was protesting against it. >
  
  I have seen many comments on the “newiran” subreddit cheering for Israel when they made an attack the other day. I’m basing my comment from that subreddit to be honest. They want the regime at war with Israel but I’m not sure how wide that sentiment actually is and Reddit folks are pretty crazy. It could be good or it could unite the wider country against a common foe but from what I understand the new generation in Iran is in favor of anything and anyone who attacks the regime. >
  
  Just assume that like many other national subs, most redditors in newiran aren't actually from Iran, maybe Iranian diaspora at best >
  
  somebody that actually knows >
  
  Honestly I don't know how I feel about this, yea stopping weapons from attacking Ukraine is a win, but Israel attacking stuff on Iranian territory is not something I support as much as I dislike the Iranian government.
  This is a recipe for disaster, Israel should stick to supporting Ukraine proper not attacking countries that support Russia. >
  
  As an Israeli I can tell you that this is a very naive way of thinking.
  Iran is supplying its militias like hezbolla, Hamas, houtis and others in the region and telling them to attack stuff on Israeli territory. That is why we attack inside Iran.
  When somebody shoots at you, you don't shoot back at the gun or at the bullet, you shoot at the person who shot you. >
  
  As an Iranian I can assure everyone that majority of our people also support Israel attacking Iran military targets.
  These paZifists are either not informed or have an agenda. >
  
  Much love from Isreal!
   hoping for your rights and freedom to be restored >
  
  Starting a war to stop another. Smartest US puppet >
  
  WWIII is taking way too long to get started. >
  
  It won't start. It's literally incredibly one sided. Therefore it would be a nuclear war and we're fucked. >
  
  Would a attack from Iran to Israel be considered justified in this case? >
  
  No. Iran chose this war by funding and ordering the murder of Israelis. >
  
  Honest question:  Why is Bibi telling everyone this?  Unless Israel is merely going to cancel Iran’s credit, any action they take to stop the flow of arms will involve an act of war.  I mean, is this normal for that part of the world?  One country conducts a military strike against another country’s assets, and no war is declared and everyone is just cool with it?  Or is Netanyahu just a thuggish idiot who only speaks the language of violence?  Is this the moment they’ll later pinpoint as the central catalyst for the Third World War? >
  
  There's been proxy fights for years I don't see any major escalation Iran will retaliate in a symbolic way probably from Syria and that will be it >
  
  PR to balance out all the far right anti Palestinian stuff they’re doing, and I’m ashamed it’s working. On me, that is, a bit, because Ukraine is so desperate for military aid. >
  
  
  The prime minister noted that Israel had supported the US decision to transfer munitions it had stockpiled in Israel for use by the Jewish state should it be necessary during a military conflict. The weapons belonged to the US and the decision to transfer them to Ukraine was taken by the Biden administration.
  Netanyahu clarified to CNN that he had not objected to the weapons transfer, which included 250,000 artillery shells.
  
  The weapons arent even theirs to object to lol 🙄 >
  
  They house them for the US, which isn’t nothing. Would it be that surprising that they get some modicum of input on how and where those weapons are utilized in return for sheltering them? >
  
  Iran doesn't have enough friends to trigger WW3 >
  
  Every country around Iran hates them, and their closest friends are on opposite side of the planet (Russia and North Korea) or part of Nato (Turkey), or has a vested interest in not provoking US sanctions (China).
  I’m not saying that WWW3 involving Iran is impossible, but it’s going to be pretty lopsided, with only Iran and North Korea versus the rest of the world. >
  
  That's some global punching down honestly lol >
  
  Yeah a real global effort would stomp them in a couple of weeks tops. >
  
  This is a recipe for disaster and at the very least, fans the flames of the burning conflict between Russia v. The West (Ukraine, USA, UK, NATO) >
  
  Funny how paZifists cry about the west arming Ukraine but Iran arming russia is fine and dandy! >
  
  I agree with your comment but "paZifists"...c'mon bruh 😐 >
  
  Definitely a “nows our chance to fuck Iran” move. >
  
  Iran is currently fucked. Please regard r/NewIran >
  
  It’s still a major power in the region and maybe a nuclear one too; these protests are happening sure - but I see absolutely no sign of an actual coup/revolution happening.  I just think Israel loves an opportunity to flex its military muscle and hitting Iran is an easy target when it comes to how the world will react.
  Edit: Lol just look at this thread, everyone’s like ‘yeah, fuck Iran’ but it’s also like - this nation can just carry out a military strike on this other nation and the world just cheers them on? Something’s off there and it’s not like Israel is doing this to promote the protestors - this is absolutely an attack on the military. >
  
  For context, you need to look at the words and actions of the Iranian regime re: Israel. >
  
  What do you mean? Give me a link. I’m just going from my own perspective but it seems pretty obvious to me that Israel is taking advantage of the current world wide notion of backing Ukraine to capitalize on striking Iran. If you’re taking about how the countries speak to each other - it’s all just talk, even a country like North Korea understands the dance that’s being made. Does it really matter what Iran or Israel says compared to their actions? >
  
  Yeah, I definitely agree. States and forces in the region know who to talk to about getting military aid. >
  
  thats the stuff >
  
  Israel's significant contributions of humanitarian aid to Ukraine. >
  
  Two birds, one stone type stuff. >
  
  Get two birds stoned at once. >
  
  Just remember Leahy, what comes around is all around! >
  
  Obviously it’s more of a “fuck Iran” mentality that a “help Ukraine” mentality but it works for me. >
  
  Israel is realising a multi-year arms sale and weapon development bonanza for Iran may not be a good thing. Maybe the Saudis will get in on the fun, too. >
  
  Saudi is lining up with China as part of the BRICS part of the currency war. I don’t see them doing anything for the good of Ukraine. Just the good of their wallet. >
  
  Saudi Arabia is not part of BRICS, South Africa is. >
  
  Saudi has submitted to join BRICS >
  
  Really? That's news to me. Also kinda weird move, especially since the Saudis are considered to be US allies. >
  
  This is why we need a baseline of truth. Saudi has been playing both sides of the field for 40 years since Nixon sold us out to them for the petrodollar. 
  The fact that they are more than likely responsible, or at least complicit on a state level for 9/11 should have been enough to reevaluate the relationship. 
  The fact that MBS dismembers and flushes journalists down the drain should have been a hard wake up call. 
  But the only thing that actually drew attention was when the KSA aligned to do remittances for oil payments in yuan 20 years into a currency war with China that the USGOV didn’t even notice while it spend billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of US troops to save Saudi from Iran while its princes sat insulted in their ivory towers 
  It’s brutally obvious that KSA only cares about one thing and it’s money. 
  Now the USA is in the extremely precarious position of having to choose whether it actually cares about the ideals it has presented to the world, ie -democracy, freedom of press, freedom of religion, etc, or what we have allowed politics to become.  
  It’s a massive failure of a U.S. foreign policy that is about a half a century outdated. But it’s also a moral failing. 
  When the government of a country is corrupted by money, it loses its moral high ground and allows itself some indulgences with the lesser evil tyrants of the world.  Saudi Arabia will be the inflection point that cost the USA it’s place as a moral authority of democracy in the world. 
  Capitalism only works if you have the self control to overcome greed internally. Once greed is allowed to go unchecked it’s just an accelerated end run. >
  
  The actions of the US pertaining to KSA over the last decade or so have made no sense. At one time we could've argued it's the need for strategically placed allies. But then some the things that have happened since then, some of which you have mentioned, lead me to believe there are elements in US politics - my bet is kingmaking institutions, due to long policy consistency - that have personal investments in the KSA. But I could be wrong, could be a series of corrupt/inept administrations. >
  
  Relevant:
  
  Saudi crown prince says Kushner was "in his pocket" >
  
  Keep in mind the drones and missiles they destroy are also potential threats to Israel >
  
  Honest question, if this is acceptable then what would happen if Russia started attacking us/eu supplies before they reach Ukraine. >
  
  I believe the principal of "fuck around and find out" would apply. Israel can get away with it because what exactly is Iran going to do? If Russia tried that it would trigger retaliation from NATO. 
  Iran and Israel are effectively in a continuous state of conflict anyways, so this is just cheap jabs at Iran to Russia's detriment. >
  
  The Middle East is such a petty reality tv drama >
  
  Good its time every democratic nation put in work against these tyrannical nations who are supporting each others evil. >
  
  Get fucked Iran. >
  
  *Iranian elite. Iran itself is on the verge of a modernist cultural revolution, and we should ABSOLUTELY support them in that, lest they come to revolution with influences from say - Saudi Arabia. Iran's not going to get any better under fundamentalist wahhabi rapist doctrine. >
  
  Oh yeah let's start supporting rebels again never gone wrong in the past few decades cough cough
  Please western countries stay the fuck out of the middle east I'm not waiting for another wave of fucking jihadis. >
  
  They need to stop sending fucking weapons that kill European civilians then. Fuck them. >
  
  oh not like the europeans didn’t send weapons to iraq to kill hundreds of thousands of iranians? >
  
  They already have the infrastructure to pull off ops all over Iran so why not. >
  
  Love it when the A plot and B plot come together >
  
  Fuck that's good lol >
  
  Russia 🤝 Iran 🤝 Palestine >
  
  Israel 🤝 Russia. 
  Russia has allowed Israel to bomb Iran-linked targets especially in Syria in the past. There are a plethora of Russian-Israeli oligarchs in Israel too. Israel is still neutral in this war and their hesitancy to supply weapons to Ukraine is evident that daddy Putin’s wishes must be respected. >
  
  Russia agrees to coordinate with Israel while Israel bombs Iranian weapons shipments going through Syria. They do this so Israel does not accidentally strike Russian soldiers and spark a conflict between them that neither side wants. This is not the same as being friendly, it's just Russia saying "we won't stop you, and we have troops here, here, and here". >
  
  So they coordinate with Russia in the Middle East and refuse to send Ukraine old stockpiles of Hawk missiles that the US has requested them multiple times to do so. Thank you for the lip service. Regardless, of how you want to portray it, that is the closest thing to being another country’s friendly. >
  
  Do you have any source for Israel refusing to send weapons the US requested? I know that the US is transferring weapons that they store in Israel over to Ukraine. But those are controlled by the US, and not by Israel. >
  
  Oh yes, old weapons owned by Israel, not by the US. Because Israel can’t supply Ukraine with weapons, because they need Russia to allow them to bomb Iranian weapon shipments to Hezbollah. I don’t see how that equates to being friends with Russia, a country Israel has a historically awful relationship with. >
  
  Been looking for a reason to poke some Iranians… >
  
  What a weird world. Why is Israel worried, do they honestly think russia has the capacity to confront them in Syria in any meaningful way? 
  Also best not to show indifference to bad actors for short-term gains. >
  
  They can hurt Iran, help Ukraine and look like a hero at the same time. Added bonus is also the protesters in Iran love it too. Killing three birds with one stone and gaining goodwill. >
  
  
  protesters in Iran love it too
  
  Do we have proof of that? I wouldn't be happy if another country attacked the country I was living in even if I was protesting against it. >
  
  I have seen many comments on the “newiran” subreddit cheering for Israel when they made an attack the other day. I’m basing my comment from that subreddit to be honest. They want the regime at war with Israel but I’m not sure how wide that sentiment actually is and Reddit folks are pretty crazy. It could be good or it could unite the wider country against a common foe but from what I understand the new generation in Iran is in favor of anything and anyone who attacks the regime. >
  
  Just assume that like many other national subs, most redditors in newiran aren't actually from Iran, maybe Iranian diaspora at best >
  
  somebody that actually knows