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  A neighbor placed the call, saying the apartment should have been empty. The call was placed to a non-emergency line but rerouted to general dispatch, the Enquirer said. 
  
  The person who called went out of their way to avoid dialing 911 and yet it still got routed to them and caused officers to get involved.  It really feels like there is no way to get help for issues in your neighborhood without potentially creating a chain of events where someone gets killed.
context: Frasure was shot at least once in the head. He was transported to University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where he died.
  
  Apprehending a suspect for burglary and/or fleeing should not be done so with deadly force. This is what happens when police get away with murder. >
  
  They're already trying to frame it as him putting the officers in mortal danger by driving his truck at them.
  
  
  Guy is spending time off work to empty the apartment of a dead relative.
  
  
  Neighbour calls police, claiming robbery in progress.
  
  
  Police arrive.
  
  
  *TIME PASSES*
  
  
  Guy tries to flee from danger.
  
  
  Police try to kill him.
  
  
  
  Apparently, he was known to them.
  However, this alone doesn't justify a shooting, nor does simply fleeing.
  Still need the camera footage to clarify the manner of his driving as the police describe it. >
  
  Police succeed in killing him >
  
  Police claim that they feared for their lives in situation that they created. >
  
  This is almost always the case >
  
  If only there were methods of deescalation
  And methods of training them to people
  Idk, maybe like cops? >
  
  That's not what we're looking for in our force >
  
  "I'm sorry, but you've failed the psychiatric evaluation, please find another career." >
  
  It's getting to the point where if there's police in the area at all, you should assume there's a credible threat to your life regardless of circumstances. >
  
  I felt that way over 10 years ago in southwest florida >
  
  “The call was placed to a non-emergency line but rerouted to general dispatch” so like, no matter what they respond like a fucking swat team. >
  
  Yes. Especially with it originating through a non-emergency channel.
  This was basically a guaranteed safe kill. Like a 'wellness check', police have just been told there's no danger if they go in, "but here's a justification for going anyway you guys have fun!" >
  
  Cops have to be the most afraid / scared for their life people on the planet to have to constantly shoot unarmed innocents. >
  
  No. They are simple bastard brutes with guns. They don’t think. They shoot. >
  
  They are TRAINED not to think and shoot though
  that's the difference
  Look up police training videos and they are wild
  Police training is incredibly fear based and primes cops to be murders >
  
  Trained might be too strong a word. Most police officers get less training time than your average plumber. Let that sink in. People who are given guns and told to police society are less trained than the guy who comes to snake your toilet. >
  
  Rare that a toilet will try and kill you though. >
  
  True, but shouldn't that be all the more reason for police officers to get more training than a plumber? >
  
  Oh ya. Folks should check out what it takes to become an officer in other countries. Mind you, we are larger and more dangerous (generally speaking) but the bar should definitely be set higher. >
  
  Once a gun enters the equation many, more logical, solutions aren’t even considered. Especially when a person is trained to treat fellow humans as the enemy as police are. >
  
  I consider myself anti-gun, but there is one argument from the pro-gun crowd that I can't really refute:
  The cops won't help you if shit goes down. >
  
  Calling the police is like a box of chocolates...they will kill your dog. >
  
  This comment made me snort my coffee.  Bravo! >
  
  I prefer cocaine but you do you. >
  
  "Bear?" -Leonardo Caprio >
  
  At this rate it's only a matter of time before police viewing the public as a threat becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. The illusion that they are any sort of protectors is washed away in a tide of bloodshed. Violence is not the answer and the state sanctioned gangs will execute you for retaliating but at some point the camels back will break... >
  
  
  Violence is not the answer and the state sanctioned gangs will execute you for retaliating but at some point the camels back will break...
  
  Seems unlikely to me: history has shown that people will endure worse for longer. It's not state violence that breaks the camel's back, but lack of bread - something that is basically impossible now. >
  
  I won't lie, that statement was effectively just a platitude. I would like to have hope that change could happen. But the pessimist in me thinks that we will see the balkanization of the United States of America before we see an updated bill of rights and a restoration of our civil liberties. >
  
  Possible, but the Balkans we're an incredible complicated situation full of centuries if not millennia of intense ethnic conflict. It could be analogous... Or not. >
  
  Sure, but in a general sense, the term balkanization just means a country splitting up into smaller individual parts that are often hostile to each other. It doesn't necessitate open hostilities between the smaller entities. You could argue that a balkanization of the United States would just look like a dissolution of the federal government.
  Not that that is likely either >
  
  Secession was the closest thing, but that didn't go anywhere. I'm skeptical it could happen again. >
  
  Ultimately, I agree that it's not likely to happen. It's just more likely to happen than the civilian population getting together and forcing change upon our current government. >
  
  Ah yes, they shot him for "leaving the scene of a non-crime." >
  
  My favorite is "arrested for resisting arrest." >
  
  Killed for attempting suicide...
  I really do not understand deadly force is such a thing in the US. What does it bring to kill someone for breaking in? Car runs the scene? better create a super dangerous situation by chasing him instead of reading a license plate at get the guy at his home. >
  
  "Shots were fired into the van when it “almost struck an officer”, police say."
  Police say... I've heard that so many times. 
  We'll have to wait for video, and see if shots were fired directly in front of the car or on the side. 
  Plus, if your in front of a car and can shoot, you can jump out of the way too. >
  
  They love to jump in front of cars they want to stop and then shoot them when they don't and claim they were trying to run them over >
  
  When you shoot a driver, coming at you, there's a high chance if he was really coming at you, you're still getting run over. Cause if the 21ft knife rule means anything, I think a car can get 21 ft even faster. >
  
  Yea if you shot someone while they were driving a car at you, the car would continue to go that direction... potentially faster depending on where their foot was. >
  
  God damn cops are fucking pathetic ass cowards. >
  
  People flee the police because they fear for their lives and the police continue to prove them right. >
  
  The video they release had better include the entire encounter and not just the 3 seconds when the shooting happened.   
  The police seem to enjoy escalating situations that don't need it. >
  
  Yeah. I see a lot of boot lickers any time video is released say "Well we don't know what happened prior to the video!" >
  
  Kind of funny that Law Enforcement successfully uses the same defense strategy that didn't work for Alex Jones. >
  
  The difference is, they can't be held accountable like Alex Jones. >
  
  
  His cause and manner of death have not yet been released.
  
  I mean he got shot by an incompetent cop while minding his own goddamn business and doing nothing wrong. I think we narrowed it down. >
  
  Anyone think that maybe, just maybe, we should not be hiring scared man-babies to be cops and giving them guns? >
  
  Who else wants to shoot “bad guys” and be hall monitors of the roads? They don’t solve crimes. They are enforcers for the rich. 
  Smart, good people become firefighters or EMTs. The dumb thugs become cops. 
  It’s really obvious what kind of people want to wear a gun all day. Scared man-babies. >
  
  So many people insist that cops stop crime. They show up afterward and maybe, if is not too much trouble, they might look into it. Usually only if you are wealthy. >
  
  "To protect and serve her knickknacks"
  Way to go, y'all. Preserving the peace of her old granny draws! Attaboy! I hear they need heros like y'all in Uvalde. >
  
  This is fucking outrageous >
  
  Why are all our cops such chicken shits? >
  
  They're not: "fearing for our lives" is a boilerplate template they're trained to excrete every kill, just like Killology told them would improve their sex-lives.
  Police usually make very certain they'll be entirely safe to "was fearing" you before escalating. Knowing their victim can't escape its doom is what's really getting them off. >
  
  Judge. Jury, and executioner.   Why do we live in the judge dread universe? >
  
  Because those in power aren't affected by police misconduct. As long as they're brutalizing and killing poor people it's all good. >
  
  Not just poor people. It's all about race, class, and gender. >
  
  Are you not paying attention? >
  
  Something similar nearly happened to my father.
  My dad and my uncle were working on clearing out an office suite that my uncle had been using.   They had made several trips, then went back inside to work on breaking down some final filing cabinets, which took some time.   As they were leaving, arms full of boxes, they find that the sun has gone down and it's dark outside now.   As they approach the truck they hear police tell them to freeze, don't move.
  My dad looks over and there's a cop with a shotgun pointed at them posted up at the corner of the building.   Someone had called and reported a burglary.
  The only thing my dad could think of was "what if we had accidentally dropped the box or made some other sudden movement."
  Luckily my uncle had the keys to the place and they were able to call his boss to verify they could be there. >
  
  Ah yes, the famous multi-trip burglary >
  
  This country has brain damage >
  
  Wake me up when the cops just start shooting eachother. >
  
  [*both cops:]
  "Why wouldn't he just comply?" >
  
  According to the NYT, the cops issued 70+ instructions to Tyre Nichole in the space of 3 minutes. That's 23+ commands every minute...how does one comply with 23 commands in a minute? >
  
  Just some A+ protecting and serving. I certainly feel safer.
  /s for the dumdums. >
  
  Serious question: what's with cops shooting at people fleeing? Do they train for this? Is there a protocol they're supposed to follow? >
  
  Cops can't shoot at someone merely for fleeing. That's why they always claim some near-miss of a physical encounter to justify deadly force. In this case it was "almost struck" by a vehicle. As in, not struck at all. >
  
  What was their excuse for double amputee guy? >
  
  Fleeing while black. >
  
  I can see why people are terrified of cops, just based on the over a thousand people cops kill annually. >
  
  This is why you shouldn’t call police unless it’s a life or death situation, and even then, think twice. They’ll probably only make it worse.
  The neighbor thought the house should be empty because the woman was dead and believed that the house was being burgled. They did not believe anyone was being threatened or harmed, but they called police. Seems like the right thing to do, right? Wrong. Now an innocent man is dead.
  This is the United States, this is a predictable outcome. We have seen many times that they shoot first, ask questions later.
  If no one is actively dying or attempting to kill someone else, do not call the cops. The only exception to this is a car accident, because you need the report for insurance. If your house was burgled, show up to the station in person with photo evidence. >
  
  To be fair they called the non emergency line, which makes this even more ridiculous >
  
  Oh my god, so they were just like “hey will you check this out because I’m not sure and I don’t know that it would be safe,” and the cops were like, “murder someone??? Okay!!” >
  
  Every line is a murder-line when you're ready to kill someone. >
  
  Warlord street gangs kill again. >
  
  Cops are just there to kill people at this point.  Stop calling the cops, neighbors, unless you want blood on your hands as well. >
  
  Karens wouldn’t care. >
  
  Fleeing the cops shouldn't be a death sentence. They have the license plate numbers through body and dash cams. Just because he jumped in a van and fled in fear doesn't give officers the right to blind fire into the vehicle. >
  
  The police said he used the van as a weapon. Let's see the body cam footage. >
  
  "they're coming right for us" as the dude is on the other side of the street. >
  
  More like the officer purposely stepped in the path of the vehicle when he just easily could've stayed off to the side and let it pass. So he puts himself in the life threatening position and conveniently for him he can then open fire because he felt his life was threatened. Funny how that works, right? 
  Dude is justifiably scared and is just trying to drive away from the conflict and gets gunned down. Also it'll be interesting to see what the environment is like around the scene of the shooting when we see the cam footage. How many stray bullets could've went out into the neighborhood and killed someone else just because the cops were trigger happy? >
  
  Interesting way of De-escalating the situation. I wish there was a national requirement for Police training. Some places give someone a gun and badge after 6 weeks of training. >
  
  Weird that these cops aren't already in jail on murder charges. I wonder white the difference might be between them and the ones that killed Tyre Nichols? >
  
  I remember years and years ago real cops would make fun of police genre television shows because in real life they never pulled a gun in 20+ years being on the force and every cop show pulled out a gun and shot people all the time.
  Life imitates art now (not that cop shows are considered art). >
  
  Again, the police ‘suspect’ an intruder was committing a crime… so when are the videos of the incident being released? >
  
  If you read the article it mentions that; Friday. >
  
  This is Reddit we don't read articles here. >
  
  It's paywalled for me >
  
  I hope the rest of America is waking up to what minorities have been saying for decades. We have lost control of the biggest gang in America. >
  
  Serves em right. Shoulda known better than to conduct lawful actions in the presence of police /s >
  
  He was aliving right at them, they had no choice but to squeeze a few off!
  Sarcasm aside, this shit needs to stop, and it's so frustrating because I personally feel like there's nothing I can do as an individual to make a difference. Heck, even if "we" banded together and protested or whatever, the cops would just slap on riot/military gear and mow us down. Folks have been trying to be peaceful to no avail, so what's the solution...actual mass anarchy? I don't get it...it's a solutionless problem. Get politicians involved? Can't do that either, since bipartisan shit has divided the country to the extreme. >
  
  Was it for civil asset forfeiture?
  How's their budget looking? DO they need more money for paramilitary gear? >
  
  If the police stonewall the release of the video you'll have your anwser about what really transpired. >
  
  As an American, I used to be scared of going to Australia because I thought it was dangerous with all the spiders, snakes and crocs. Now, I'm scared of America. >
  
  The next page out of the police playbook will be to put out a press release explicitly detailing Mr. Frasure's criminal history, down to anything as minor as a parking ticket, should it exist. >
  
  I used to dream of living it big in the US one day, now I think I’ll take a hard pass! >
  
  Try Australia. I’m here visiting my daughter. Am meeting next week with an immigration atty. Oz is like another planet from the U.S. >
  
  
  Police officials have said video of the encounter will be released on Friday. The officers involved have not been identified.
  
  Dont you normally release things on a Friday if its really bad? >
  
  FUCK THE POLICE. I’m done with these fucking bitches. We need to start hanging cops for murder. >
  
  American cops do not value human life. And surprisingly, not a small number of Americans are quite happy with that. They say inhumane bullshit like:
  
  if you pull a knife on the cops, you deserve to be killed
  if the cops issue instructions and you don't obey, you deserve to be killed
  suicide by cop >
  
  I'm sorry that happened to your husband. Cops showed up at my door over 10 years ago now and started interrogating me about someone calling 911 and hanging up "in this area." They kept trying to trip me up, get me to admit to something I didn't even KNOW was happening, and the whole time treated me like a criminal. When I told them "I don't appreciate what you're trying to do. I don't know anything about this." One of them said "I don't care what you don't appreciate son, you're going to listen to what I have to say and answer my questions." No proof at all it came from my address. If it happened today, I wouldn't have even answered the door. They can talk to me through it and you better believe I'm not opening it unless they have a warrant. Being 17 at the time, I didn't know anything about my rights back then and I was home alone which made it even scarier. Fucking assholes. >
  
  And US cops are better than Iranian moral police how? There needs to be a license and insurance so the state sanctioned gangs called cops can be cleaned up from all the rotten apples that rotted the entire system. >
  
  Well obviously most US cops are white Christians so they’re clearly superior! /s >
  
  
  Police say officers suspected Frasure was a burglar
  
  And by implication, police are saying that if they think you might be stealing a TV, even if they don't know for sure, they are allowed to shoot you dead.
  
  Police say Frasure did not follow commands, running from officers and attempting to leave the area in a minivan
  
  If I'm peacefully cleaning out my dead grandmother's apartment, and cops show up pointing guns at me, you damn well better expect me to try to get the fuck away before they kill me.
  Cops should not be allowed to instill fear of death in a population and then cite that fear as a reason for execution. >
  
  Fuck police. Fuck the “blue”. You fucking traitors should be disbanded and most of you probably belong in jail. This institution is far beyond reform. >
  
  next up the police violate the mans privacy and release anything that makes him look bad to public. >
  
  Wyoming police shouldn't even carry guns. It's a small rich suburb and they are functionally the same as security guards in gated communities. They mostly respond to car accidents or houses broken into when no one was home. I can find only one murder to EVER happen in Wyoming. It was almost 40 years ago and, while not convicted, the only suspect was the child of the woman killed. >
  
  I remember when we moved when I was in 5th grade to a small down and the truck was being unloaded the police stopped by because they thought there was theft. My mom had to tell them she just bought the house and we were moving in. I don’t understand how this happens. >
  
  The cops are claiming he tried to run them over and I don't believe them. We've seen them lie too many times. The video will show what really happened. I'm pretty sure shooting someone in the head doesn't make them a 'safer' driver. >
  
  Quick guys there’s someone shooting innocent people somebody call the co… oh wait never mind >
  
  
  US Man
  
  The world's "Florida Man" >
  
  Cops these days all think they are in a movie and that they are going around getting "bad guys". Only law enforcement and 5 year olds say "good guys and bad guys". Their small brains cannot understand nuance >
  
  Extend police training to 3 years minimum under a federally regulated program. >
  
  Probably one of the most intelligent comments in this whole thread >
  
  The worst thing an American could possibly do to another American is call the police. The odds are very good one is actually ordering a free murder. >
  
  How much you want to bet that the police version of events is nothing close to what actually happened? If anything, we’ve all learned to never trust the first version that police tell after a shooting because they’re most likely not telling the whole truth or flat out lying. >
  
  time for some paid leave >
  
  Qualified Immunity is just a blanket permission to commit crime. It has to be removed. >
  
  “I want to know why they killed my brother,” said Joe Frasure Jr, Frasure Jr’s identically named half-brother.
  I'm curious about that. >
  
  George Foreman named all his sons George. >
  
  And he has a lot of sons >
  
  He has about as many daughters too. One he named Georgetta. >
  
  It's stories like these that motivated my "no trespassing, violators will be shot, your uniform doesn't stop bullets" sign >
  
  That sign does not give you the power if the state to execute people but apparently there badge does. >
  
  If you break the law, you're a punk.
  If you break the law wearing a badge, you're a punk wearing a badge. >
  
  Now we wait for the character assassination from the police department to start claiming he had a rap sheet...and that's why he ran. >
  
  The title of the linked article is misleading. I make no presumption of the truth in this incident but wanted to share some key points from the linked article and this article:
  -The police non-emergency line received a call from a concerned neighbor shortly before 1 A.M. about "2 or 3 people" trying to break in to an apartment that was supposed to be vacant.
  -The call was rerouted to dispatch by the non-emergency line.
  -Responding police claim that they heard noise at the back of the unit where they encountered the victim, Joe Frasure, and his father. Mr. Frasure (Joe) was sitting in a minivan.
  -Responding police claim that Mr. Frasure ignored commands to exit the vehicle and proceeded to reverse in to a tree before driving forward towards the police. Police claim that they then fired 4 shots at the vehicle, striking Mr. Frasure and causing the vehicle to impact a nearby building. Police claim that they then removed Mr. Frasure from the driver seat and rendered first aid.
  -The family of Mr. Frasure claim that Mr. Frasure and his father were there cleaning out the apartment of their late relative (the article states grandmother).
  -There will be a press conference, to include footage of the incident, on February 3rd, 2023.
  Edit 1: changed the word "state" to "claim" for consistency in several instances. >
  
  I really hate that they use phrasing like “police state” and “the family claim.”
  Makes one sound more believable than the other, when those words “state,” and “claim,” should be switched. >
  
  You know the worst way to stop a car barreling at you?  Shoot it with a gun. >
  
  Knock knock
  Who’s there?
  BANG!
  Police. >
  
  Police arrive. Man dies. Narrative emerges as to why he HAD to be shot dead. Sounds so fucking familiar, doesn’t it? Were there always this many police shootings in the US? >
  
  They say he was shot because he tried or looked like he was gonna run over a cop with his car. So knowing that he probably tried to flee and a cop got in front of a moving vehicle.. >
  
  Police will say anything and the dead can't talk. >
  
  So I presume the body cam video will show the guy trying to flee and the cop getting right in his way. I'd be surprised if it shows him actually trying to run over a cop with his car. 
  Still doesn't make any sense why he was fleeing though >
  
  I think it's the natural human instinct to flee when someone is threatening your life. >
  
  Especially, as we saw with Tyre Nichols' brutal execution, when we know for a fact that reason, compliance and de-escalation techniques (from the victims not the cops) DO NOT WORK.
  If you can't get away and can't shoot back (and they're VERY careful about making certain of the latter before approaching you), all that's left is prey: your life is over one way or another once they've chosen you're today's 'interaction'. >
  
  'Noncompliant and got into a minivan coming at the officer.' No body cam footage. Thin Blue Line ideology means police will always collaborate to commit perjury. Always. The modus operandi for all juries should be that without video evidence the police are lying to cover for their brothers. They are authoritarians who believe they are at war. There are humans who wear blue and enemy combatants who dont. Every citizen is acceptable collateral damage because without terror there cannot be abject obedience and without abject obedience the world will become a wasteland. The war on drugs. The war on terror. The war on crime. Look at them, jack booted thugs outfitted for war. They have tanks. They have Assault rifles. DA and Judges know if they step out of line the police will murder and rape their families because the only law is the occupation army and their flag is Black White and Blue. >
  
  "WhY dIDnT hE jUsT cOmPLy?!?" : Fox News viewers right now >
  
  They will go with the usual and dig up the time he stole a lollipop as kid to justify him being murdered >
  
  I’m sorry I know this is not what’s important , but both brothers being named Joe Fraser Jr is wilddddd >
  
  Another day. More innocents murdered by our jackbooted stormtroopers. >
  
  Statistically speaking, am I more likely to be murdered by a cop than random person? >
  
  The state of policing in our country is a terrible cruel joke played out on every single taxpayer. Reform police. >
  
  
  The Hamilton county sheriff’s office initially investigated the shooting before the case was taken over by the county prosecutor, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported.
  
  If the US was ever serious about this issue they would never have the county level officials investigating this. Either a state or federal task force should be the ones doing that. >
  
  When can we have major police reform?
  "its just a few bad apples" excuses is getting tiresome. A few bad apples will spoil the bunch, I don't see "good" police calling for justice here ... if anything the cop friendly subreddits are celebrating this right now...
  I'm a POC in the USA, if I see a cop, I'm immediately gonna assume they are a fascist/nazi/racist bully with no anger management or de-escalation skills -- and its a shit situation that is my primary assumption today. >
  
  "police suspected he was a burglar" decided to shoot first ask questions later. fucking idiots >
  
  About time we bust all these guys back to nothing but a night stick. >
  
  The leading cause of police deaths in 2022 was Covid. >
  
  At least that virus is good for something. >
  
  Karen must have called the police on this guy as usual. >
  
  if you read the article you would have seen the part where it says they called the non-emergency number and not 911 >
  
  Why is running from police a death sentence? >
  
  Same reason complying for police is a death sentence, or being confused, naked and afraid in your own shower is a death sentence.
  Because what few consequences there ever are vastly pale in comparison to how erect gaining a free paid vacation makes them. >
  
  
  “I want to know why they killed my brother,” said Joe Frasure Jr, Frasure Jr’s identically named half-brother.
  
  Is anyone going to talk about this? >
  
  We don' talk about Joe Frasure Jr. or Joe Frasure Jr. Now, Joe Frasure Jr, that's a whole different story. >
  
  Sounds like Frasure erasure >
  
  Cops : "So anyway, I started blasting.." >
  
  Thanks for this context. So he fled the scene when the cops showed because he had active warrants, he didn't deserve to be killed unless he was putting the public's lives at risk. The police said he used the van as a weapon. Let's see the body cam footage then. >
  
  
  The police said he used the van as a weapon.
  
  Even if he did, it's a van. Move out of the way and let him get away. You have his "accomplice". There's no need to put a lot more people at risk by firing indiscriminately at a moving vehicle. >
  
  Or, walk up and ask what's going on, without pointing 6 guns at them, and then decide if something's wrong. >
  
  “FREEZE!”
  “Wait wut”
  BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
  cops run over kick and cuff twitching body
  “Everybody turned off body cams? Right?” >
  
  If he was running away, I can understand the police might have reason to believe he was a burglar.
  In what world is it acceptable to shoot at a burglar running away from you? >
  
  Joe Fraser Sr. and his sons Joe Fraser Jr. and the identically named Joe Fraser Jr.?
  Mom: "Joe!"
  Three People: "What?"
  Mom: "No, Joe Jr!"
  Two People: "What?"
  Mom: Drinks heavily. >
  
  George Foreman has entered the chat >
  
  Police should be charged with murder.  Person that called police should be charged with filing a fake report to police, and also charged with accomplice to murder. >
  
  I don't agree with that last part. If my neighbor died and I saw people I didn't know clearing out the house, I would hesitate to confront them myself. I would ask the police to confirm they belong there. What I would NOT expect is for them to come in guns blazing. >
  
  
  What I would NOT expect is for them to come in guns blazing.
  
  Sorry to say you should adjust your expectations. >
  
  Its a basic human right to run from the police at this point. >
  
  Both
  
  Police say Frasure did not follow commands, running from officers and attempting to leave the area in a minivan. Shots were fired into the van when it “almost struck an officer”, police say.
  
  Sides
  
  “I don’t care what they say: that [vehicle] was not pointed at them,” Joe Frasure Sr, Frasure’s father, told WLWT5. >
  
  So the cops are claiming that the man "ran from police" and then "tried to hit them with his car".  The father says:
  “I don’t care what they say: that [vehicle] was not pointed at them,” Joe Frasure Sr, Frasure’s father, told WLWT5.
  So the cops shot a fleeing person, who wasn't going to run them over? Since when does fleeing need deadly force? >
  
  Do you need to kill someone who has no guns and is fleeing the scene where no violent crime took place? Why shooting someone who walks away from you? >
  
  Same reason you kill someone fully complying, or kill a little girl for sleeping on a sofa, or kneel on a neck for nine minutes, or kill someone sitting and eating icecream, or help protect a school shooter for over an hour with over 370 of your cop buddies to ensure as many children die as possible:
  Because they know they will get away with it, that it will never happen to them, and that as they were taught in training, doing so makes sex better.
  They have everything to gain and nothing to lose from killing innocents. On the contrary; they may even face repercussions or excommunication from their death-cult should they refuse to at least assist in doing so. >
  
  The man who was killed, Joe Frasure Jr., had a brother who was also named Joe Frasure Jr. >
  
  Why did he run from the police? >
  
  You know what at this point, when cops (most likely flat out lying) talk about how the suspect did not listen or almost struck them with a van, I almost feel like believing them because after all these stories its like the cops are just out to kill you and your best course of action is to get the fuck away from there as fast as possible. >
  
  I truly hope I am never in a situation where I fear for my life and wonder if I should even bother calling the police out of fear they will kill me or someone else. >
  
  How many times is this going to happen before people will finally realize that militarizing our police and letting them off nearly scot-free when they use their weapons to kill people before applying any critical thought is a major problem that we have to address and change? >
  
  Well, that's another thing to add to my "things I'm afraid to do in America" list! >
  
  They’re trying to take guns from the wrong people imo. Cops should’ve to start their first year as a cop without a gun imo. >
  
  The police kill a lot of Americans >
  
  At what point do we demand that police have their guns taken away? They are not responsible.
  We do a better job of keeping kids from running with scissors.
  This is absurd. >
  
  Cops be patrolling the streets looking for a problem; there's not a dead body on every block and to them, that's a problem. >
  
  Too many cops in this country are fucking pond scum. >
  
  bUt I wAs ScArEd FoR mY lIfe! >
  
  I won't believe the police account of "The van tried to hit one of them" so the cop opened fire until I see the video.  But REGARDLESS of if the van aimed for the dude, if you have time to pull out your gun and start unloading into the van, you have time to move out of the way.  And if you HAVE moved safely out of the way, why are you still shooting at the van? >
  
  Last year, the United States set the record for the number of police shooting that resulted in deaths. A month into the new year, and we are already on pace to break that record. We need to do a better job at hiring law enforcement. The ones we do hired clearly have no regard for human life. >
  
  
  Police say Frasure did not follow commands, running from officers and attempting to leave the area in a minivan. Shots were fired into the van when it “almost struck an officer”, police say.
  
  The stock excuse when they murder someone in a vehicle. >
  
  Cops love to kill people >
  
  Another police execution? Gah damn, how many does that make this year already? >
  
  
  The shooting, the latest in a string of controversial police killings across the US [...]
  
  A string? At this point, it's more like a freaking boat rope! >
  
  So I did a little bit of digging and found through a family member that the guy killed was out on parole and he was scared that he was going to go back to jail once they ran his name because he wasn't supposed to be out of the state. Doesn't say which state though
  Not pointing blame, just explaining why the guy fled. >
  
  The policing in the states is fubar. The sort of policing you get in a military junta. >
  
  Man, this story is gonna be headline news everywhere and EVERYONE is gonna be talking about it.  Hell Yesterday Al Sharpton said he had no doubt if Tyre Nichols was white that he would be alive.  This is an inju....wait...you mean he was white?...welp just like daniel shaver and tony timpa, this story is gonna go to the annuls of history which no one of any significance will remember.  BYE BYE STORY, I'LL MISS YOU!