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  Yeah, they both mishandled classified documents in the most general sense. Here’s the critical difference. Trump lied about having them at all and refused to cooperate with NARA for more than an entire year, then turned over a few and lied about having tons more until the FBI had to get a judge involved to seize them, then claimed they were planted, then admitted he stole them as “keepsakes.”
  Biden said ‘oh shit, let’s get these back to NARA’ when they were discovered, agreed to an FBI search to retrieve them and has cooperated the whole way through.
context: No one should have any classified documents in their home, in their garage, at their resort, etc. There needs to be better custodian of these documents. 
  With that said, Biden has been very transparent about this whereas Trump and his attorney's have lied, deceived, and refused to cooperate. >
  
  Yep. I don't think that anyone disagrees that the actus reus is there for Biden. The difference is that while Trump escalated his response in a way that there was definitely also a mens rea, Biden... didn't >
  
  TIL the term actus rea >
  
  It's actually actus reus. I had my Latin grammar wrong. But mens rea and actus reus mean guilty mind and guilty act respectively. Broadly speaking, the actus reus is the illegal action itself, while the mens rea is the intention to commit it. A good example is manslaughter vs murder, where the crime of murder implies intent, while the crime of manslaughter is just causing someone's death
  EDIT: They're actually derived from the principle "actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea" or "an act does not make a person guilty unless their mind is also guilty" >
  
  See I knew what mens rea was but had never heard actus, but once I saw it it made sense what it meant. 
  The act and the intent behind the act, makes sense to me. >
  
  Well, honestly... I feel like we need to do a better job of handling documents. They found some from when Biden was a senator. I get that Biden reported and Trump did not.. But honestly mishandling top secret documents should be a big deal. >
  
  The average person that works with this type of stuff doesn't end up with it in their garage because they follow the rules that are constantly drilled into their head and because they know they'll go to prison for it. It's not really something that is an issue for anyone other than the politicians that apparently can get away with it. >
  
  
  The average person that works with this type of stuff doesn't end up with it in their garage
  
  Do we know that? Senator Biden ended up with it at his house, and no one seemed to miss the document. Make me wonder what else we are not missing.