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  Up north, we have long winter but short summer nights. 
  In the winter, the sun sets at 4pm and rises at 7am. 
  In the summer, the sun sets at 9pm and rises at 5am.
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  You would have to go to bed at 8 and wake up at 4am for midnight to be truly the middle >
  
  I work in a factory so you got the times perfect for me >
  
  All of society collapsing if factories had three shifts a day instead of two >
  
  Lots of factories have three shifts >
  
  11pm-7am, 7am-3pm, 3pm-11pm >
  
  hey that sounds like 7-Eleven. >
  
  It's actually called 7 Eleven cause it's open 7 hours a day, 11 days a week. >
  
  I know you're being facetious, but the real reason is that they were open from 7:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m., which was a big deal at one point. >
  
  Man, that's only 4 hours! Such a tight window to get there in time. >
  
  You should normally use doors to get in there though >
  
  And why, at 3AM, does it feel like I can stay up all night, but just before dawn I get extra tired? >
  
  I suffer from this, too! And at 33 i still haven’t learned to go to bed at a sensible time! >
  
  I literally can't do it. No matter what time I wake up in the morning (it's usually early), I'm never in bed before midnight. I've tried. I just can't get my body to go to sleep before a certain time. It's honestly debilitating. During the work week I'll only get 5-6 hours of sleep most nights because I just cannot fall asleep until it's later at night >
  
  Same here. Then I sleep in on weekends and my sleep schedule is fucked by Monday >
  
  I have found my people! >
  
  Night owls exist. 50% of the population is forced into this bullshit because the early risers hate us >
  
  It's so frustrating. I would be so much more productive and happy if workplaces would start accommodating night owls. It doesn't even have to be that late - just don't make everyone work at 7 or 8 am. >
  
  When people named 12 AM midnight, it was centuries before electricity was in use. Work days were daylight hours. People who could afford beeswax candles were generally wealthy and didn’t need to work at night; anyone who did often used tallow candles or rush lights. So you generally had a tea (dinner) at 4 PM and a light supper (snack, say bread and cheese) at 7 or 8 PM. You went to bed immediately after and began your day at 4 or 5 AM, when the rooster woke you or the “knock up man”, who would in turn wake up the bell-ringer and knock on townspeople’s windows in case you needed to be awoken. So historically, 12 was definitely “mid-night”. With the advent of electric power in the late 19th century, everything shifted, including our sleep and work schedules, by three or four hours, because darkness was no longer a hindrance. 
  The more you know… 🌈💫 >
  
  But who would wake up the knock up man? >
  
  Knock up rooster. >
  
  But who wakes up the knock up rooster? >
  
  Me. >
  
  I am the one who wakes. >
  
  I am the one who knocks up. >
  
  ...roosters. >
  
  Typically it’s the cock that does the knocking up. >
  
  Knock-Cock >
  
  Sleep researchers call this hour between 3 and 4 o'clock at night “wolf hour” or “hour of the wolf”.
  "The hour between night and dawn. The hour when most people die, when sleep is deepest, when nightmares are most real. It is the hour when the sleepless are haunted by their deepest fears, when ghost and demons are most powerful, the hour of the wolf is also the hour when most children are born." 
  -From Ingmar Bergman's Film HOUR OF THE WOLF >
  
  Your comment, and this entire post made me think of this:
  "Oh God, midnight’s not bad, you wake and go back to sleep, one or two’s not bad, you toss but sleep again. Five or six in the morning, there’s hope, for dawn’s just under the horizon. But three, now, Christ, three A.M.! Doctors say the body’s at low tide then. The soul is out. The blood moves slow. You’re the nearest to dead you’ll ever be save dying. Sleep is a patch of death, but three in the morn, full wide-eyed staring, is living death! You dream with your eyes open. God, if you had strength to rouse up, you’d slaughter your half-dreams with buckshot! But no, you lie pinned to a deep well-bottom that’s burned dry. The moon rolls by to look at you down there, with its idiot face. It’s a long way back to sunset, a far way on to dawn, so you summon all the fool things of your life, the stupid lovely things done with people known so very well who are now so very dead – And wasn’t it true, had he read somewhere, more people in hospitals die at 3 A.M. than at any other time."
  From Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes. >
  
  Hm. Reading this at 2:47am, I think I'll go to bed now. >
  
  4:01 here. Wondering if I'm going to be able to make the 3 hr drive to the dispensary at 8. >
  
  Bro I'm just sorry you live that far away from legal weed. >
  
  For me, 1-2 am is staying up late while 5-6 am is waking up early so 3-4 am is the dead of night for me as I rarely see it >
  
  I think this is a really good way of summarising it. 
  The options you mentioned are early/late but stomach-able. 
  Whereas no matter which way you look at it — staying up till 3-4am or getting up at 3-4am — both options suck. 
  Like majorly, majorly suck. >
  
  I had to get up at 4am for work every weekday for years and I never adjusted to it. Every time was a new, horrible experience somehow. I went to bed early, didn’t use screens for an hour before hand, and nothing helped. It’s just a miserable time to be awake. >
  
  I wake up at \~3:30am out of habit now.  I don't even need an alarm.  I still call it the dead of the night because I know no one is online between 3-5am.  But 12-2am?  Still plenty of people.  They start trickling back in starting around 6am.
  I'm east coast though, so it's not lost on me that 3-4am is after the west coasters hit the sack, and just before the east coasters are waking up. >
  
  That's because you perceive night as the time period over which you sleep. If you see it as the span from sun down to sun rise (which is what night actually is), say 6 to 6 then 12 feels quite midnighty. >
  
  It's really interesting hearing people's opinions on times and periods of days/nights in English. I googled it and times are debatable in the English language, but are very clearly set in my language, which is Dutch. 
  00:00 - 06:00 is called night time 
  06:00 - 12:00 is morning time 
  12:00 - 18:00 is afternoon 
  18:00 - 00:00 is evening
  So yes, 03:00 is the middle of the night. I wouldn't say 3 in the morning like English speakers do. I would say 3 at night as the Dutch do. (3 uur 's nachts). >
  
  That’s consistent with the US >
  
  You say "it's 3 in the night" or "it's 3 in the morning"? >
  
  I was up til 3 last night is how I’d say it. >
  
  Right, but if someone calls your at 03:00 and wakes you up and you're pissed off at them, do you say: are you nuts!? IT'S 3 AT NIGHT!  - this what the Dutch say in their language. 
  Or do you say: Are you nuts?! IT'S 3 IN THE MORNING! - this is what English speakers say in their language. >
  
  Yes. It’s more of a dead zone I feel. I’d rather kill someone at 3am out and about rather than midnight. >
  
  Weird how your mind went directly to murder. Lol >
  
  It would have been weird wherever it went I suppose.