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  Is it likely for Sweden and Finland to win Turkey and Hungary’s support? If so, how?
  
  Finland likely will have no issues with joining NATO, all of Hungary and Turkey's protests are about Sweden.  So Finland is basically a sure thing.
  However, Finland is both physically and culturally close with Sweden.  They have sworn to join NATO together.  So the question is really about Sweden's chances.
  As others in the thread have pointed out, Hungary is likely to move on the issue of Sweden in their next legislative session, however their Financial Minister recently threw cold-water on the idea of their accepting of Sweden.  What he means, I have no idea, but that's one recent data-point.
  Turkey, meanwhile, is in the middle of an election season, and as a muslim-majority country Erdogan is trying to whip-up support for his party by "standing up to" Sweden, since one of their politicians burned a Quran in front of a Turkish embassy in that country.  So we likely won't see movement from them on the issue of Sweden until at least after the election concludes.  If Erdogan wins, it's still pretty likely he will eventually accept Sweden joining NATO, though he may pussyfoot around the issue some more in the hopes of getting concessions, such as F-16s/F-35s.
context: Yes, it is likely, they just have to wait until the next Turkish election. Erdoğan is mainly trying to look tough and will be more amenable to compromise once he has secured power for another term. >
  
  Erdogan won't allow anyone else to win the election. That is a non starter. >
  
  Türkiye doesn't have fair elections, but that doesn't mean Erdoğan can't lose power, nor does it mean Erdoğan doesn't care about his popularity. >
  
  Exactly. Erdoğan's power in Turkey is very great, but not limitless. He can influence elections unfairly, yes, but he lacks the power to falsify them entirely. >
  
  Hungary will ratify during their next legislative session, which starts in February 
  Türkiye will wait until after their next election cycle, which apparently is in June. 
  The latter is posturing, but ultimately irrelevant. Russia isn't about to start another war in the next six months. It would be nice to get this over with, but in the grand scheme of things, the delay isn't going to matter >
  
  Alright as a Turkish American I’m gonna explain this the best way possible.
  Erdogan indeed is trying to look strong and proclaim himself as a savior of Islam to the polls which is working in some ways and not. He knows well that he can get some concessions off of this deal
  CHP (opposition) also know well they can get concessions as well and delay Sweden’s vote to get in. They also have the same concerns about the PKK and want the F-15 program back on the table. And will still have a shaky relationship with Greece or more the same
  So whoever wins the election it’s not gonna change much. 
  Finland under recent news got the green light from Erdogan but we shall see if Finland wants to join alone.
  But hey if CHP does win just a warning for Europe migrations might head your direction from now on, CHP is planning to deport all Syrian migrants back to Syria or might allow them to enter Europe, our weak and Broken economy isn’t gonna take it anymore so good luck. >
  
  Both, Sweden and Finland are in limbo at the moment. It looks like Turkey just gave Sweden an excuse to delay and although it approves Finland; they both intend to join together or not at all.
  Edited for typo. >
  
  Why wouldn't one country accept membership without the other? >
  
  Neighboring countries with friendly relations, shared histories and common defense interests. >
  
  Hungary has apparently already scheduled the vote to ratify their membership
  As for Turkey, apparently America is already beginning to make some noises about cancelling sales of millitary hardware which Turkey wants, which could hit especially hard since Erdogan has been doin' a lot of looking imperialistically at Northern Syria as a place to resettle Arab refugees and diffuse possible Kurdish nationalist movements. >
  
  
  Who needs whom more.
  
  Turkey by a country mile. >
  
  
  Turkey by a country mile.
  
  For what, it is like saying Saudi Arabia needs U.S. more; does not look like it from their conduct. Many countries are quite satisfied getting along with Russia, China and India now far more. Particularly that part of the world. >
  
  
  For what
  
  Not having Kurdistan pop up on it's border
  Not arming it's rivals
  Not facing strengthened opposition in elections
  
  Many countries are quite satisfied getting along with Russia
  
  Not if they have been paying attention for the last year, modern Russian equipment is losing cold war era equipment. 
  
  China
  
  It's a valid choice, but a lot of their domestic equipment is based off burning sculptures in Donetsk. 
  
  India
  
  I honestly don't know much about the domestic Indian arms industry, but if memory serves they import most of their equipment from Russia. >
  
  What I find funny is that Turkey doesn’t even meet one of the major requirements for NATO membership. (Being a democracy) yet they can somehow dictate who joins NATO. >
  
  Turkey will either accept Sweden and Finland or they won't get anymore new F-16s. >
  
  We aren’t interested in F-13 anymore tbh. We might as well build our own. Finland got the green light Sweden can wait >
  
  Turkey can figure it out, then. 
  Meanwhile Greece gets the F-35s >
  
  The CHP and Erdogan both agree on one thing Sweden isn’t getting in until concessions are met. 
  Either way we are find if Greece gets F-35. We can wait or build our own >
  
  
  We can wait or build our own
  
  Good luck with that, I am sure you will take 4th place with the 5th 5gen fighter.
  With no chance of pulling a Russia and making something too expensive and complicated to field in sufficient quantities. >
  
  Finland will be approved but unless Sweden hands over the Kurds Turkey is demanding....they have zero chance.
  And they can't hand them over or they'll look incredibly hypocritical. 
  But if Ukraine can strut around publicly claiming to be a "proxy NATO member" , then Sweden has an actual legitimate claim to be already a proxy NATO member.