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  It tells the person reported for seeming suicidal by random redditors that there is help to get etc, its never used that way though.
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  It's already a thing. There's a link to report the abuse, which links to a form that directs you to input the permalink to the message itself.
  People who abuse the redditcares message can catch sitewide bans for it from the admins. >
  
  I’ve tried doing this a number of times and it never lets me submit, giving some error about the permalink. 
  Has anyone ever been able to do this and have they ever received a message saying a violation was found and action was taken? >
  
  I've tried to do it and they told me it wasn't an offense. Maybe reddit mods decided that I really did need some "help" >
  
  Maybe time for some reflection? >
  
  well that's besides the point, this was clearly someone who didn't agree with something I was saying and was trying to gaslight me. >
  
  It’s not besides the point, I’m just saying.. if two people have both felt that you should seek help, it might be a good sign to reevaluate your comments. Though I have no idea without knowing the context, and Reddit mods aren’t the most reputable, so idk >
  
  idk my comment was literally just correcting someone on a point of a book and quoting an example from the book to prove my point, and the other person thought I was clearly deluded and lying and must be a danger to myself. It was one of the weirdest interactions I've ever had on Reddit.
  Maybe I was too invested in a topic that ultimately didn't matter and that makes me crazy, but idk that's just reddit where you can find a community for any interest you're passionate about. >
  
  If the subject matter was a book then yeah it seems like they abused it. Granted I’ve gotten too invested in insignificant arguments before, we all have >
  
  If there were physical resources in use, I might be inclined to agree; sending them to people who don't need them would be wasteful, even more so if done for petty reasons.
  But as it stands, it's not really any worse than dm'ing someone an aggravating message. It's annoying, sure, and definitely not behavior to encourage, but it's not really something that demands serious intervention unless it crosses the line into clear malicious intent (which, as a pre-formatted message, it's going to have a hard time doing). >
  
  Some jokers have sent that to me because they simply didn't care for my opinion. >
  
  Me too. I was a little confused about it but now it all makes sense!
  I have to say, however, I think it’s kinda hilarious. Didn’t ruin my day or anything. >
  
  They think they're being clever. 😊 >
  
  How do you expect them to figure out whether someone is "genuinely concerned about you" or not, without opening themselves up to enormous liability if they are wrong?
  Reddit admins are powerful, but they can't read minds, and they do have lawyers. >
  
  What liability would that be? Genuinely curious >
  
  None, pretty much. Still, in the land of the lawsuit someone might still want to sue so companies go out of their way to prevent any hypothetical litigation. >
  
  I'm not even sure what the help button does? I guess I'm kind of new to reddit >
  
  It tells the person reported for seeming suicidal by random redditors that there is help to get etc, its never used that way though. >
  
  Why do you want this view changed? 
  What argument would make you change this view? >
  
  You're being absurdly sensitive. You're asking for permanent bans for something that is at worst mildly annoying and at best mildly amusing? It's really not a huge deal. I've had it happen to me multiple times. It's made me laugh each time. Nothing like arguing about something entirely unimportant like sport only to click the latest notification and reading that resources are there to support you in your time of need. >
  
  So you want to give reddit mods 
  Who already abuse their power enormously via bans 
  To be given more power to ban people for more things that essentially come down to the mods personal political or societal views 
  Just say that out loud slow for me and tell me it sounds like a good idea >
  
  No I think it should be reddit admins >
  
  Same problem exists. >
  
  No not really. >
  
  Reddit admins are the people who let the aforementioned moderators essentially run the website. They have constant communication with them. If they didn't like the enormous power abuse on the site, they could do something about it, but they don't.
  They're just as bad if not worse, because they enable the behavior. >
  
  Just like everything that gets ruined due to newfound popularity
  $$$$$
  I still like reddit, but it really went to shit in many ways when it was capitalized >
  
  
  I feel like people should be able to report when this happens and if reddit sees it was sent unprompter, they should punish the user who sent it. I would also accept something as simple as taking away their ability to use the button
  
  That leads to abuse the other way, and the decline in genuine sending of a help msg. So some ppl don't get irked by getting one they don;t think they need?
  Is that worth that?
  Who cares, just delete it. >
  
  What do you mean it leads to abuse the other way? >
  
  I mean someone could say things that suggest they may need help and then keep reporting ppl saying they're abusing the function. >
  
  Not even a personalized message. Maybe once every week that message arrives and it is harrassment now?
  Tell me how many times have you received such messages this month. 
  One fucking mild inconvenience and you want a ban. Look within. >
  
  I couldn't care less someone sends it to me. I care it cheapens and turns into an insult a resource available for those who may actually need it. For their sakes abuse of the resource should be bannable. >
  
  If the message is reaching those who need, I don't see why you are making such a big deal about it. >
  
  I do think it really waters down the usefullness, when it >
  
  Are you refering to the self harm / suicide report where you get up a popup saying that you can get help etc?
  I didn't know you could see who sent those to be honest, but I haven't gotten too many.
  The fact that people you have blocked can still send them is strange, and should be fixed.
  But I do not think that it should become punishable. Just let people block users who "misuse" them. >
  
  I’ve gotten that like once or twice and I just ignored it?   I didn’t understand what it was or why I got it haha >
  
  A lot of people on the Internet, despite the wonderful benefits it brings, get into heated conversations with people they don't have reason to care about.
  Sending people resources for help allows people a polite way to object to someone's behaviour without it descending into an argument.
  If the person who sends help is an asshole, they can be safely ignored without the victim being subjected to constant and personal harassment; if the person who submits a help report is the victim, they can be taken seriously rather than demonized as one side in a fight. >
  
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  It's already a thing. There's a link to report the abuse, which links to a form that directs you to input the permalink to the message itself.
  People who abuse the redditcares message can catch sitewide bans for it from the admins. >
  
  I’ve tried doing this a number of times and it never lets me submit, giving some error about the permalink. 
  Has anyone ever been able to do this and have they ever received a message saying a violation was found and action was taken? >
  
  I've tried to do it and they told me it wasn't an offense. Maybe reddit mods decided that I really did need some "help" >
  
  Maybe time for some reflection? >
  
  well that's besides the point, this was clearly someone who didn't agree with something I was saying and was trying to gaslight me. >
  
  It’s not besides the point, I’m just saying.. if two people have both felt that you should seek help, it might be a good sign to reevaluate your comments. Though I have no idea without knowing the context, and Reddit mods aren’t the most reputable, so idk >
  
  idk my comment was literally just correcting someone on a point of a book and quoting an example from the book to prove my point, and the other person thought I was clearly deluded and lying and must be a danger to myself. It was one of the weirdest interactions I've ever had on Reddit.
  Maybe I was too invested in a topic that ultimately didn't matter and that makes me crazy, but idk that's just reddit where you can find a community for any interest you're passionate about. >
  
  If the subject matter was a book then yeah it seems like they abused it. Granted I’ve gotten too invested in insignificant arguments before, we all have >
  
  If there were physical resources in use, I might be inclined to agree; sending them to people who don't need them would be wasteful, even more so if done for petty reasons.
  But as it stands, it's not really any worse than dm'ing someone an aggravating message. It's annoying, sure, and definitely not behavior to encourage, but it's not really something that demands serious intervention unless it crosses the line into clear malicious intent (which, as a pre-formatted message, it's going to have a hard time doing). >
  
  Some jokers have sent that to me because they simply didn't care for my opinion. >
  
  Me too. I was a little confused about it but now it all makes sense!
  I have to say, however, I think it’s kinda hilarious. Didn’t ruin my day or anything. >
  
  They think they're being clever. 😊 >
  
  How do you expect them to figure out whether someone is "genuinely concerned about you" or not, without opening themselves up to enormous liability if they are wrong?
  Reddit admins are powerful, but they can't read minds, and they do have lawyers. >
  
  What liability would that be? Genuinely curious >
  
  None, pretty much. Still, in the land of the lawsuit someone might still want to sue so companies go out of their way to prevent any hypothetical litigation. >
  
  I'm not even sure what the help button does? I guess I'm kind of new to reddit