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  Ah, the religious freedom loop hole. Well played. You crafty devils.
context: “ The clinic will serve anyone 17 years or older in New Mexico at the time of the visit, and patients must be no more than 11 weeks pregnant, according to the website.
  Services include financial assistance, emotional support, chemical abortions and religious support, as well as contraceptives.”
  Not too shabby. >
  
  This is also genius. When they get into the inevitably lawsuits - and I'll make a considerable donation to boost this - it could conceivably go to SCOTUS.
  How can the dude the place is named for not recuse? >
  
  
  How can the dude the place is named for not recuse?
  
  I don't think he has to, an antagonistic name isn't like a get out of supreme court free card.
  Like if Florida made a "Sotomayor book ban" that she had nothing to do with, would you expect her to recuse herself and let the other justices continue their agenda?
  I completely support the satanic temple's work and cheekiness here, but I don't think a cute loophole in having the whole supreme court interpret the constitution is going to work out well for anyone.
  Besides, I'm not sure I see a supreme-court worthy case here. They're following state abortion law which is what the supreme court just ruled. >
  
  Of course he should recuse himself. I swear there’s no standards anymore. 
  Since there’s a clear reason why he’d be personally grieved by the name, we can’t expect him, or any person in the same position (under the same circumstances) to do the case w/o bias.
  If anyone cares about democracy, this is a no brainer. This is exactly why judges should recuse themselves from a case. One reason anyway.
  EDIT: Even if the name of the place was referring to another Sam elite-o, and everyone knew it, the Sam elite-o on SCOTUS should recuse himself. 
  I’m not sure how it works in these cases, but there’s a clear reason why a person might be biased if their name is in the title of the case. >
  
  So you think this is a new loophole to completely sidestep supreme court judicial review? Florida can just name their bill "The Sotomayor Kagan Breyer Stop Woke Act" and suddenly it's only the conservative justices ruling on it? >
  
  There’s an obvious issue. I’m just saying that it could likely create a bias. I’m not sue if it’s been used as a strategy before or how they dealt with it if it has. I’m just saying that we have judges recuse themselves when there’s a likely bias. 
  It doesn’t sound like you know either, but if you do I’d love to know. Thanks in advance. >
  
  You're right, I don't know for sure either. 
  But if the case were about the constitutionality of providing women's healthcare, it seems like the name can easily be ignored. I don't think so poorly of even Alito to think that he would just ignore the constitution and precedent and just be vindictive about the name specifically. 
  Besides, especially conservative justices have a history of not recusing themselves even when they really should, for reasons directly related to the case. >
  
  Cool… I get that we’ve let our standards go when it comes to ethics. I think it’s a big problem.
  One other thing… bias is an insidious thing. It shouldn’t ever be looked at as a failing of the person recusing themselves, or even when being ordered to stand down by others). 
  We’re human. We know that bias can seep its way in, in funny ways. 
  I don’t mean to besmirch eliteo, though I might besmirch him for other reasons.
  We need to understand our own frailty and limitations. This especially goes for people with power. >
  
  
  I get that we’ve let our standards go when it comes to ethics. I think it’s a big problem.
  
  I think the integrity of the entire judicial system and by extension the entire constitution is more important than avoiding the appearance of a possible conflict of interest. 
  I think it would be foolish to allow such a blatant exploit to eliminate the balance of the highest court in the land. >
  
  My favorite part about free speech is how funny it gets lmaoooo >
  
  Those totalitarian countries don't know what they are missing. >
  
  Eh, they can’t complain >
  
  
  Erin Helian, executive director of campaigns and religious reproductive rights director at TST, told the Daily Caller News Foundation that the name of the clinic will serve as a reminder.
  “Prior to 1973, doctors who performed abortions could lose their licenses and go to jail. In 1950, Samuel Alito’s mother did not have options,” Helian said. “The clinic’s name serves to remind people just how important it is to have the right to control one’s body and the potential ramifications of losing that right.”
  
  Holy shit, that's a burn >
  
  The Satanic Temple's social media frequently burns and wrecks a lot of things. >
  
  God bless The Satanic Temple >
  
  Something about that strikes me as somewhat ironic.  Not quite sure why. >
  
  Jesus, what are you talking about? >
  
  I don’t know why but the LIKELY in
  “The Samuel Alito’s Mom’s Abortion Clinic” likely in reference to Supreme Court Justice Alito”
  absolutely killed me >
  
  “Prior to 1973, doctors who performed abortions could lose their licenses and go to jail. In 1950, Samuel Alito’s mother did not have options,” Helian said. “The clinic’s name serves to remind people just how important it is to have the right to control one’s body and the potential ramifications of losing that right.”
  That part is great too. >
  
  The Hitler Paradox? >
  
  No clue what the Jehova's witness is going on about. The Hitler paradox asks, "You have time traveled and are presented with the opportunity to kill baby Adolf Hitler. Is it morally right to kill a baby that hasn't done anything bad yet or is it morally right to let him grow up and start the holocaust?" >
  
  Why not just steal baby Hitler and send him to be raised by a loving family in, I dunno, America or Africa or someplace? Why do people jump straight to infanticide? >
  
  Also this whole thought experiment ignores the fact that Hitler was just a symptom of a sickness in German and European society. Kinda like we have right now in USA. If it wasn't Hitler, it easily could've been someone else spreading fascism and horror. >
  
  Hitler was a pretty terrible wartime leader and really did a lot to hamper his military. If the Nazis had an effective wartime leader at the helm, if some time traveler killed Hitler, things could have turned out far worse for the rest of the world. >
  
  Imagine if a non meth addicted leader ruled a fascist Germany. >
  
  Sucking as a leader and being generally incompetent are caused by fascism because of the anti-empirical and egotistical mindset required to embrace fascism in the first place. It is fairly likely that another person leading nazi Germany would have been equally incompetent. >
  
  I heard they have a 2 for 1 going on for their opening - with every abortion you get a leaked future court opinion >
  
  The asterisk in that deal, hidden in small size 6 font, is you must buy a $10,000.00 plate dinner for the Justices to leak on you. >
  
  
  for the Justices to leak on you.
  
  Trump would love this >
  
  It's not that kind of leak. Conservative Justices have standards, after all!
  Alito won't piss for less than 20 and you still need to buy him dinner. >
  
  He raised his prices then, last I heard he'd do it for a $20 and a bump of brown crack. >
  
  Damn he can't even get the beige shit >
  
  “Prior to 1973, doctors who performed abortions could lose their licenses and go to jail. In 1950, Samuel Alito’s mother did not have options,” Helian said. “The clinic’s name serves to remind people just how important it is to have the right to control one’s body and the potential ramifications of losing that right.”
  Holeeeeeeee Fuck!!!! >
  
  For anyone that doesn't get it...Samuel Alito is one of the Supreme Court Justices that voted to repeal Roe V Wade. They're saying his mother should have had the option to abort him.  
  Brutal and fucking amazing at the same time. I love it. >
  
  Next one should be named after the corrupt chief Justice. He deserves a full court press. >
  
  Which one?  There's a few. >
  
  I think there's only one chief justice >
  
  Ope, yep.  My brain a word when reading sometimes. >
  
  I accidentally a Coca-Cola bottle when I read that comment. >
  
  The whole thing? >
  
  "In a row?"
  ETA: I work with a younger crowd. Not one of them would recognize Clerks or Futurama references. Probably a small percentage out there have seen either. Ohhhh I made myself sad. >
  
  "To shreds you say?" >
  
  This is hands down the greatest "yo mama" joke of all time. Amazing. >
  
  This. My first reaction too. 
  Dear whoever did a yo' mama to Dweezil Zappa when he made a groupie comment - you've been outdone big time. 
  (Oh, background: FZ famously called wifey a damn good groupie - and then there is this song.) >
  
  They should have called it “Samuel Alito’s Mom Satanic Abortion Clinic for Kids Who Can’t Read and Who Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too.” >
  
  Ah yeah!! classic. >
  
  TST really knows how to be savage about religious discrimination and I am all for it >
  
  You can't be subtle with these people. It's like trying to rescue someone from drowning with a flowchart. >
  
  Exactly. Their simple brains can only understand blunt, clear stuff. And hate, they're very good at hate too. >
  
  I love these folks so much. >
  
  Their ethos is actually straightforward and wholesome. AND THEY PAY TAXES! >
  
  
  AND THEY PAY TAXES!
  
  They stopped paying taxes when they became a recognized (by the IRS) religion. NOT paying taxes actually gives them more legitimacy in our odd legal system.. >
  
  Was that recent? I remember them in a twitter battle back in late 20 or early 21 and they posted they paid their taxes, it was a point of pride for them. >
  
  Relatively. They also put out a statement on the change. I remember it coming up in podcasts at the time and checking it out.
  If you go to their website > learn > press center, and look under 2019, you can find a release on tax exempt status. 
  They keep record of all their big official statements and actions like this, which is pretty cool. Also just a lot of info on their site in general. I recommend checking it out if people haven't and are interested in them.
  Edit: damn, thank you for the platinum, person. I feel obligated now to add links to their webpage and their press page that I mentioned. >
  
  TRANSPARENCY? IN THIS DAY AND AGE?  THE AUDACITY?  I AM JUST SO OUTRAGED RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND DONATE!  MORE UPPERCASE WORDS! >
  
  I want merch from this place.
  Like maybe a t-shirt that says,"I went to the Samuel alito's mom abortion clinic and all I got was this T-shirt." >
  
  Don’t be surprised if they offer it soon in their web store! I just joined my local chapter. >
  
  That does it.  I’m poor as hell, but I’m going to donate some money to the satanic temple. >
  
  If you read their “commandments” can’t remember what they call them they are super wholesome and just involve being a good person and not a piece of shit to people. I’ve seriously considered becoming a member of only for the abortion rights.
  Edit: seven fundamental tenets! >
  
  The seven fundamental tenets >
  
  Yes! I am very pro Satanic Temple. I’ve only ever seen them doing good. Maybe….slightly petty good…lol but good none the less. >
  
  Chaotic good. And just the right amount of petty. >
  
  Makes me realise that I'll be able to teach some solid values to my D&D nerd nephew by utilising chaotic good as a descriptor. >
  
  I am in awe at the irony that the Satanic Temple is the best chance Americans currently have to beat the Christian Taliban. >
  
  It’s one of the only good things in this timeline >
  
  I’m pretty sure the writers are running out of ideas this week. I’ve seen posts about coaches posing as students in middle school basketball games, cops shooting and killing a double amputee, a grown ass woman pretending to be a highschool student, and I just don’t think this is realistic anymore. >
  
  And the plot holes! You're telling me that people work full time for $7.25 minimum wage, and median house prices are $400,000! Because corporations are buying them?! There would be riots! >
  
  When you put it like that...
  it's insane. >
  
  Samuel Alito is trying to use 17th century law that existed before our country was a twinkle in Washington’s ballsack to control modern humans, like an old, rich, well-read control freak with little to no knowledge of what average Americans live like. He thinks he is above us and knows what’s best for us. My ancient boomer relatives have the same level of mental entitlement. >
  
  Fascinatingly, abortion is a right the founding fathers would’ve had and wanted access to. Abortion has been a right for millennia, the Romans even ate an abortifacient* plant into extinction. It’s really only been an issue since the 60s-70s with the rise of televangelism and, wouldn’t you guess, Reagan. >
  
  Just once I'd like for there to be a problem in this country that doesn't tie back to Reagan, tbh.
  ​
  Not because I have any half-way decent opinions of him, but it would just be exciting to see a problem rooted somewhere else for a change. >
  
  Trump: Hold my beer 
  I hear what you are saying.. Union busting, war on drugs, trickle down economics and abortion.
  40 yrs from now we will be reeling the same way from the bs Trump did.. the main one I see is the deregulation of the oilfield and refineries and the massive rise of narcissistic behavior being considered good. 
  Amazing what damage electing tv personalities can do to generations of people. I hope we learn from this. >
  
  This country doesn't have 40 years >
  
  Regardless of your position on the issue, everyone must appreciate this level of petty. >
  
  I always wondered if abortion would be protected by the constitution under religious freedoms as opposed to privacy like it was in Roe v Wade.  It would be incredible if the Satanic Temple started opening up abortion clinics in states where it is illegal only for the Supreme Court to grant it protection again on religious grounds (considering they’re all a bunch of religious nuts). 
  Then again, I don’t see them protecting the Satanic Church’s rights considering they really only support freedom of Christianity but hey, one can dream…. >
  
  There was a huge pushback from the Jewish community when RvW was overturned. Sadly, Jews and Satanists aren't exactly the most welcomed people in America, at least not by the fundamentalist politicians. >
  
  There goes the TST making me smile again >
  
  Wholesome little devils, aren't they? >
  
  They're putting up one hell of a fight! >
  
  Here's a crazy thought- obviously pregnant women should be the one's choosing. But if there absolutely needs to be someone making the decision on this law,  why not let it be the entire medical community and not judges who have no idea of the medical reprocussions of the law's they're penning. >
  
  It’s wild to me that we let non medical professionals make laws dictating medical decisions >
  
  We also let insurance companies make medical decisions without a license as well. The system is mess. >
  
  The cheeky way TST does stuff like this is hilarious but I'm a bit confused by this part: “The ritual consists solely of spoken words. TST’s abortion ritual is exclusively verbal.”
  So that means, I assume, they're not actually providing abortion services, correct? >
  
  My understanding (which may be flawed, so grain of salt) is that TST will provide the medication and the recipient is to use it in a ritual that includes verbal components. This is a religious ritual and is covered under freedom of religion, as it is focused on one of the tenets of TST, autonomy regarding one's own body. >
  
  Correct, pills are sent via mail to patients within new Mexico. New Mexico already allows abortion medications to be prescribed by "qualified non-physicians", which i assume is the loophole TST is going for. 
  So basically they aren't going to be doing anything that's not already allowed by NM law. But also assuming here, they may be expanding access by sending medications by mail, as there are very few abortion clinics in NM. >
  
  I knew I made the right choice when I joined their newsletter years ago >
  
  I love free speech and freedom of religion.  :)  (I also love freedom from religion.) >
  
  I've said it before and I'll say it again... 
  HAIL SATAN !!!!!!!!! >
  
  Satan says Hail yourself. >
  
  Hail *thyself. >
  
  I'm so happy that I am a card carrying member of the Satanic Temple >
  
  Amazing. But also 11 weeks is still incredibly early in a pregnancy. It could be just 1-2 missed periods. We need to fucking change these arbitrary bullshit restrictions. >
  
  It's 11 weeks because medical abortions aren't effective after 11 weeks. It's very much not a bullshit restriction. You just medically require a different type of abortion after 11 weeks. >
  
  Can you expound on the different kind/s of abortion needed after 11 weeks? >
  
  God Bless the Satanists!  There is no Hate like Christian Love... >
  
  Satanists, out here acting more Christ-like than virtually any American “Christian”! >
  
  I’m thinking about joining, aka, signing up for the mailing list but i do still believe in God.
  I guess I’ll just settle for the membership card from the gift shop lol >
  
  That’s trolling with commitment. >
  
  That is uber level trolling >
  
  Tracy Jordan's Aunt Phatso's Jack Donaghy's We at it Again! >
  
  Don’t you dare obstruct the holy sacrament! >
  
  The Americans have managed to turn Satanists into the good guys think about that. Or were they the good guys all along? TST has been fighting hard for women's rights in America finally a religion that doesn't hate women 👍🤘 >
  
  TST aren’t actually worshiping Satan >
  
  this made me snort. TST inflicting d a m a g e. Well played! 
  calling the mobile burn unit 🚨