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  Personally I think this is funny as fuck.  Ronald Reagan catered to the Evangelical Christians in the 80s to win his Presidential elections.  The Evangelical Christians turned into the TEA Party & now they're the MAGA Party.   Over 43 years these people have become more and more radical.  With every election victory and defeat, they double down.  
  For the longest time the old GOP Guard thought they could control & direct these people.  Sure they're increasingly becoming more radical year after year, but we still have a good leash on them.
  Then Donald J Trump, the chosen leader of the radicalized Republicans became President and they has taken control.  The Old Guards have lost the leash & now the Republicans are the radical party.  
  The more "reasonable" Republicans think they can negotiate, reason, wheel & deal with these people, but that's not going to happen.  The Radicals now have full control & they are flexing it.
  I'll end this with a quote from Barry Goldwater.
  Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
context: Lol. The GOP doesn’t learn lessons. Unless that lesson is “double down on the unpopular thing you’re doing and cheat or bend the rules to win.” >
  
  And blame the other side for everything you are actively doing. >
  
  It's actually ripped right out of Stalin's playbook. Goebbels was good at it but Stalin perfected this. 
  
  Everyone lock and step
  Never admit you were wrong 
  Accuse the opposing party of literally EVERYthing you're doing that's illegal 
  Murder or throw out anyone who dissents aka Liz >
  
  To mask their humiliation, /r/Conservative is pretending that they WANT childish gridlock to keep the government from working correctly.
  Just wait until their government checks start coming late. >
  
  They’ll find a way to blame Dems for the late checks. I guarantee it. >
  
  I've already heard the claim that the republican holdouts are actually democrat plants. >
  
  Yup. Every third comment is RINO this or RINO that. Republican meltdowns would be a lot funnier if they didn't hurt our country so damn much. >
  
  
  RINO this or RINO that
  
  RINO is now completely meaningless as a slur.  It just means "they don't agree with me" regardless of how they actually vote on things. >
  
  My Republican dad told me yesterday that Lisa Murkowski is a Democrat (which I've heard before) and also George W. Bush is a Democrat (which was a new one for me). Not just RINO, Democrat.
  It's as though the new paradigm is all there ever was. Anyone who isn't part of it is a Democrat. >
  
  I’d ask your dad if he thinks Americans that vote Democratic Party are his enemies and if he answers yes ask him what does it mean to be a free person in a free country if you can’t like different ideas. This shit is ridiculous. >
  
  The party that wants to cut Medicare and social security also needs the support of lower and middle income white people who very much don’t want those things cut. This creates an unsolvable internal tension. One way to try to cover this all up is to create a circus around CRT, pedophile grooming (and pizza chain sex abuse rings?), and just about any other thing that doesn’t involve talking about how you are going to make retirement impossible for anyone but the very rich. 
  The circus is a feature, not a bug if you are a Republican. You need it now because your unpopular policy positions will eat you alive if allowed to grow in the light of day. >
  
  Exactly and when Republicans control both houses and the presidency they only do tax cuts.  They don't dare to enact any of their other policy positions.  They only want power to obstruct. >
  
  
  They don't dare to enact any of their other policy positions.
  
  That's because "they" don't have other policy positions. Everyone should've been able to see this House Speakership fiasco coming when the Republican party was unable to make a platform in 2020. 
  The Republican party is actually wildly ideologically diverse. It doesn't really make any sense to have libertarians in the same party as theocrats. In terms of legislation, they're only united on tax cuts really. >
  
  They really are the party of, "Fuck you don't tell me what to do."  Who then procced to jump off a cliff or blow off a thumb.
  Weather it's super rich people who forgot we worked out taxes as a means where they pay for society and get to enjoy stuff, instead of us going all French revolution on them. Or just dumbasses who still think they are in High School and doing things like paying taxes suck, because what's in it for me?
  Crossed over with an underlying hate for others, be it other races, or just other people who aren't their social status.  It creates a dysfunctional powder keg, that we are now seeing spiral out of control.
  I have to wonder how long this will go on, and if Boebert's threat to nominate Trump will do anything?  I mean Trump won't get elected, but will the move further alienate the crazies from the "moderates," will it fracture the whole thing? >
  
  They're also the party of: "In the eyes of God you are my brother/sister and I want to save you."
  But also: "Why should I have to help poor people? They obviously chose to be poor." >
  
  "Our entire country should be guided by the Bible... but  also fuck the poor, fuck the homeless, and fuck destitute immigrants coming from Third World countries to make a better life for themselves and their families here." >
  
  And where in the Bible does it say that guns are more important women and black people? >
  
  Boebert 2:17 >
  
  
  Boebert ~~2:17~~ 3:57.
  
  FTFY >
  
  I was watching cnbc just now and some republican congresswoman was talking about how this is a representative government and that 10% shouldn’t be allowed to hijack the house.
  I sat there wondering why they didn’t remind her that the entire democratic caucus also doesn’t support McCarthy and that in fact his failure to get 50% is what’s causing the issue. It’s amazing the way Republicans think and as she repeated this over and over thought it was irresponsible to not call her out. >
  
  20 representatives are doing this. Not even 5% of the House. They don’t even know why they’re doing this. It’s clown car fulled by hate. Real life freak show. >
  
  I get a strong impression that Gaetz is the ringleader in this uprising. Not sure yet if he is doing it for Trump or if he just wants the media attention for himself. >
  
  The biggest concession they've dragged out of McCarthy is the dismantling of the house ethics committee (likely to be the only entity continuing to investigate Matt Gaetz for his various sex trafficking ~~crimes~~ unprosecuted allegations). >
  
  The 1 member being able to initiate a recall vote on the speaker instead of a majority of caucus is pretty big too. >
  
  That uh.. seems like a really bad concession to make
  Because wouldn't that enable the minority party to just.. constantly flood the house with recall votes? >
  
  No, a Democrat can't initiate the recall but any one member of the Republicans can. >
  
  Lol.... WHAT >
  
  The GOP are in the majority. The majority caucus and minority caucus can set their own procedural rules within their groups.
  By the rules of the house, for whatever reason, the minority caucus cannot elect a speaker, even though Jeffries technically keeps getting the most votes. So this term, unless half a dozen GOP members die, switch party, or quit, the speaker recall rule only applies to the GOP.
  Congress has nuts rules. >
  
  These are the completely predictable results of when a political party actively recruits the most antagonistic, paranoid, conspiracy minded, narcissistic members of society into their ranks… Big surprise!!! GQP cannot cooperate, even within their own tribe. >
  
  How much do you think Repubs are actively hating their own voter base for making these people their coworkers right now?
  (And do you think they ever quietly admit to themselves that obediently riding along the Trump wave is ultimately what did this?) >
  
  If and when McCarthy does ultimately lose to another, I hope he airs out all the dirty laundry about Gaetz, Boebert, and others nonstop. But he won’t, because he’s a self-serving coward who would much rather be humiliated nationally if it meant the slightest chance for more power. >
  
  
  humiliated globally >
  
  Yes. Canada here. I've been snickering for 36 hours straight. >
  
  
  Canada >
  
  Wow, using the F word. Way overdue. >
  
  Too bad far-righters project and called civilized people “fascists.” >
  
  They’ll likely dismiss it and call Oxford a “liberal” organization to discredit it. >
  
  At that point, doesn't matter. The people that are on the far-right aren't going to acknowledge reality. Especially on the internet. People on the left shouldn't expect them to.
  Anyone who isn't already on the far-right are the people you need to convince, and you gave them the info to do so. 
  That's all you can do, and hope that the independents or whoever else who hasn't bought into far-right lies are smart enough to see that refusing to accept a dictionary definition, or whatever else, means the people arguing against are absolute morons. >
  
  This is the way. Can't convince them all just need to convince enough people to get this threat out of our government. >
  
  This was true even for Hitler's party. It was all held together by one man. Underneath him, everyone hated each other, dispised each other, and couldnt wait to distroy each other. Thats why everyone started throwing each other under the bus in the end.  
  If you build the whole party based on hate, that hate doesnt disappear for your own teammates all of a sudden. >
  
  Not even at the end. 
  The Night of the Long Knives was a an out and out purge of their own ranks. After the SA (aka Brownshirts) had stopped being as useful as before, Hitler (at the insistence of Goering and Himmler) ordered the purge. It's no secret that those on the list were personal enemies of either Goering, Himmler, or both. >
  
  True. And then down the line, Goebbels turned on Goering, they each turned on Himmler, and Bormann kept whispering in Hitler's ears to get people like Fegelein killed. Everyone was out for everyone else lol, what a mess. 
  After Hitler died, the people in the bunker say that Goebbels was acting as the new leader, but nobody was paying attention to him. Just shows you how little they thought of him. Someone who practically built Hitler.
  Hate may destroy your enemies, but it sooner or later it will destroy you too. >
  
  It's crazy to hear all the republicans who are for Kevin McCarthy complain about minority rule and how it's unfair that the minority of their party is ruling over 80% of their conference. >
  
  The irony >
  
  Which is completely lost on them. >
  
  The promises McCarthy is making to this cabal of human vuvuzelas will do nothing but make an already bad situation worse. He’s handing them legitimacy and an outsized power. 
  He’s allowing a very small percentage of Congress to call all the shots, stop everything on a whim to get their way, and refuse to introduce legislation because they don’t like it. Even if the rest of the country does.
  McCarthy would already be speaker if he had gone after six Democrats instead of 19 do nothing, know nothing fascists and insurrectionists. >
  
  Lol human vuvuzelas >
  
  TIL. Was honestly expecting something NSFW but was pleasantly surprised.
  Thanks reddit. >
  
  Anyone who watched the 2010 World Cup is well aware of the scourge of the vuvuzela >
  
  Welcome to that old feeling where you realise there are people old enough to vote who are too young to remember vuvuzuelas from 2010. >
  
  I think the lesson is stop voting for fucking Republicans, personally. >
  
  But how will they own the libs? >
  
  They could always just make mean comments on twitter.  I mean its owned by their alpha overlord Musk so they should fit right in. >
  
  
  "By far the best thing for democracy is if the Republicans simply implode and their nefarious schemes never come to fruition."
  
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  "It's more than likely, however, that the Kentucky event will only sow more intra-party discord, further enraging the burn-it-all-down types and turning them even more forcefully against GOP leadership."
  
  Here's hoping the GOP is on its last legs. >
  
  What is this Kentucky event? >
  
  I suspect it was the event in KY that Biden and McConnell both appeared and spoke at, recently, where Biden praised McConnell over infrastructure improvements in KY. >
  
  McConnell did something that positively affected people other than himself?!
  Edit: Bad at grammar >
  
  On the surface, at least. >
  
  Yep, I'd take a look at who got that money, and if they were campaign contributors to Mitch. >
  
  Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. These Pearl clutching trolls are the same people who sent a rabid mob into those chambers. >
  
  when rats are hungry they will eat themselves >
  
  Besides the obvious "selling your soul by associating with & empowering fascist trolls", presumably. >
  
  soul? what soul. >
  
  Sole.  As the part of the shoe that contacts the ground.  Because the other, thay don't have.  As you point out. >
  
  Makes sense. They're synonymous with bootlickers at this point. >
  
  well would you look at that. they're even bad at fascism.
  because there's one thing fascists usually got down to a t, and that's clear leadership. just sayin'. >
  
  It may start that way, but fascists always end up destroying themselves. The question is how much collateral damage they cause on the way. >
  
  This. Fascism eventually destroys itself because it has a design flaw; it requires an enemy (real or manufactured) to act as an existential threat. When they run out of people on the outside to purge, they turn their attention to those in the party who are not ideologically pure, and the definition of “pure” can change whenever necessary. No one is safe; anyone can be made into an enemy of the state when the need arises.
  This may sound encouraging, but (as you said) they will ultimately do a lot of damage before they implode. >
  
  
  they turn their attention to those in the party who are not ideologically pure
  
  They have already done that.  It's called RINO and it is a death sentence for anyone on the right to be called it. >
  
  I hope folks know what concessions McCarthy is making with the pack of 20- and the impact it will have. 
  He is giving much more power to the Freedom Caucus in the House. A group that has no intention of governing and just want to burn it all down. 
  A Koch backed PAC wants to ensure no money from Kevin’s PAC will go to solid red districts- so more MAGA/TeaParty folks can run and not have to worry about a more moderate Republican running against him/him in a primary with additional funding. 
  Decreasing the power of the Speaker- allowing for 1 house member to initiate a vote to remove the Speaker. 
  If a minority group of GOP members is able to hold up a majority vote of the GOP for speakership, this easily - just wait for more issues with votes to help Americans over the next two years- including raising the debt ceiling. Without that passing, VETERANS will no longer receive any of their benefits- even disability payments. Elderly will lose Social Security and Medicare. And America will default on its credit, sending our economy off a cliff.
  *Edited: change the threshold from 5 to 1 to initiate a vote to remove the Speaker. >
  
  Point of clarification. He’s agreed  (apparently, and foolishly) to the threshold to initiate a vote to vacate the chair to only require a single member. Not to actually be removed by the vote of only one member. 
  Everything else you’ve said is correct. The GOP caucus will not be able to govern which is largely the goal of the arsonists that now make up the majority of their party. >
  
  Oy! I should have double checked before hitting send- as I meant to say 1 house member to initiate a vote….Thanks for clarifying! >
  
  I particularly like this apt quote from The Atlantic:
  “Democracy, process, lawmaking, and governing? All of that is for saps; doing it is how you end up becoming Eric Cantor or Paul Ryan. The GOP rebels have every intention of staying in Washington and staying in power—even if “power” amounts to little more than sitting in the wreckage of the Capitol and keeping warm by burning the furniture.”