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  American policing is a direct off shoot of slave patrols.
context: Two thoughts:
  
  Maybe you can delete “California” and this would still be true
  I wonder how much the statistic is skewed by the police forces in specific metropolitan areas of California >
  
  Much of rural California is basically Caltucky (go just an hour outside of Sacramento and you’ll see pickups, trump stickers, and confederate flags) so I’m not sure there’s gonna be a higher level of respect for Black folks in the non-metropolitan areas. Hell, some of the Central Valley cities are still basically sundown towns. >
  
  There's a city just outside of San Diego (barely 30 minutes) called Santee, and people nicknamed it Klantee, because. >
  
  Can confirm. My wife is from Santee and while my wife is great I had major issues with the area. Lots of not subtle racism. 
  We moved out of that area but it’s still pretty close. Sad thing is there’s some great small business in Santee. Annie’s Fine Burger is the best burger for my money in San Diego. >
  
  Don't share this on the local SD sub, people will come at you and tell you that racism doesn't exist anywhere here.
  Also, there's an Annie's Fine Burger in Kearny Mesa, I assume that's related? Didn't know there's one in Santee, too. I still gotta try it one of these days. >
  
  The San Diego sub is run by one crazy asshole so I don’t go there anyway. Santee isn’t the worst city I’ve seen in California as far as racism goes(looking at you Jamestown) but it’s pretty bad.
  I think they have a couple locations but definitely try it out. It’s a damn good burger and an excellent one for the price. Little bit more expensive than fast food and A Massive amount better. >
  
  I should follow your lead on that sub. The fact that the mod added a reporting option for "excessive wokeness" is stupid as hell.
  I'll try to make Anny's my next going-out-meal. I've worked down the street from it for years and I dunno how I haven't gone yet. And with current fast food prices, I wouldn't be shocked if they were about the same. >
  
  
  Not included in the article or linked report however was the racial demographics of these LE officers. That seems relevant especially when one is looking at systemic rather than individual racism.
  
  Definitely. I vaguely recall another study that indicated even officers of color perpetuate these same practices, though not necessarily at the exact same rate. The implication was that training, procedure, and department policies can override individual sensibilities over time. I'll see if I can find it. >
  
  In countries with a less diverse population, Police still use force disproportionately, I’ve always thought it was the Uniform rather than racism. There’s something about the uniform that changes ordinary people into Judge Dredd quoting “I am the law!” Everyone is breaking the Law and defying Authority. >
  
  Or maybe it's that people who are racist know they can use the uniform to hold power over people they find less than themself. Or queer people, or poor people, or the wrong type of Christian. Minorities becoming cops is just oppressed people getting a taste of power finally and going mad, sure, but you can't say it's the uniform and not racism when black people are literally harassed at twice the rate of white people. >
  
  I’m sorry you missed my point, I wasn’t talking about the United States, but countries that have a less diverse population. I’m talking about countries that don’t have a large minority population but are more divided along class lines. Of course they’ll find a reason to oppress people for reasons dictated by the State. However even you mentioned they can use the Uniform to justify their power over others. >
  
  do the states have the same data and reporting requirements? >
  
  Rain more than twice as likely to fall down instead of up.... >
  
  From the limited times I've seen the California police on camera they're more likely to use force on everyone. >
  
  The only time I have been pulled over in my life is when a black friend was giving me a ride home.  For no reason at all. >
  
  Surely he had a reason to give you a ride home? >
  
  Yeah, I was not driving and needed to get back home >
  
  I'm sure every one of those cops told themselves "it's because black people are more likely to [insert comforting lie here]". >
  
  Well poorer areas are almost always more susceptible to crime. And black communites are generally poor. So its not necessarily false. 
  However, thats still not an excuse for police violence against black people. >
  
  Brave of you >
  
  If we want to change we have to be honest. Being white and having the gall to say that black communities have the same amounts of money is ignorant, even if its said with good intention. Especially when white people were the main reason for this disparity. >
  
  Yeah like of fucking course black people commit more crime, the American system is literally designed from the ground up to funnel black people back into slave camps. Whether that's ghettos or jail don't matter, its the same pipe, and it's driven by the system, not their race. Their race is just why its about them and not some other group. 
  Youre right, we can't fix shit if we don't address the whole pipe. >
  
  Wait...they are just figuring this out?
  I got into the LA punk scene in the late 1970s. Two friends of mine, both black, used to get harassed all the time. One lived in Beverly Hills, but in an apartment on the edge with his family. He used to walk to Sunset, and I would pick him up to go to shows. He would always get stopped by the police, and asked where he was coming from, and where he was going. He had ID showing he lived there, yet the same cops would constantly stop him and tell him not to walk through the area because it makes people upset.
  Once we were in my car, and we got pulled over. The cops, handcuffed and searched him, yet let me freely stand around. Shit like this happened all the time. >
  
  Studies of things we all know allows us to point at specific proof instead of using vague feelings. That same trait of "pointing out the obvious studies" also makes them one of the most important studies we can do in the modern age: counter misinformation. Without proof, people who are unsure are more likely to be swayed by the way thay makes them feel better about the world. For most, that is a world where cops are not evil pricks, but the helpful uniform on the street keeping you safe from criminals. 
  It's the same as people proving over and over that vaccines don't cause autism. 1 study, poorly done, and retracted by its original authors, made that claim. And we now have the largest anti vax movement in history in the US. 
  Proving something obvious still matters >
  
  This is true everywhere in America. >
  
  Not only California I feel like it’s all the police nationwide 
  They scared of black people >
  
  There was a massive study a few years ago, and it was across the country.  If you are a minority, you were much more likely to receive use of force by police AND be let go without any charges filed.
  "Use of force" can be as a simple as searching someone. >
  
  Searching someone is a "use of force"? I'm learning something new then.