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  It don't cost shit to run lights. Its all about HVAC and whether or not your appliances are electric or gas.
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  Assuming you've got decent bulbs these days, lighting is a very small part of your electric bill. All of the lights that are on in my house right now are 8W LED bulbs, so they add up to maybe 100 watts or so. Compare that to something like anything with a heating element, and it's a drop in the bucket. >
  
  IIRC with a modern LED even if you left it on 24/7 365 it would still cost under $10 a year to power it with average energy cost. So yeah, lighting isn’t very costly anymore (thankfully)
  It still astounds me that some people are fighting for the continued use of incandescent bulbs. LEDs look better and cost less. Plus smart bulbs are cheap as hell now ($10 a bulb) so you can choose different colors, warmth, and brightness. >
  
  
  It still astounds me that some people are fighting for the continued use of incandescent bulbs.
  
  I don't think I've encountered this at all. Is this actually a thing? >
  
  Yeah it’s conservatives. They don’t actually believe incandescents are better, they just don’t like the fact that the government is phasing them out. So it’s not really about which bulb is better, it’s more about government control.
  But it’s still a stupid argument. Because LEDs are better in literally every way imaginable, and we need to reduce grid stress and emissions, so it seems like a very logical decision to me. I don’t think the government changing our lightbulbs is “literally 1984” but many conservatives do >
  
  Eh, I'm conservative myself, and so are a ton of my friends, and I've literally never heard anyone try to fight for 60W bulbs. I feel like this many not be as prevalent as you think. Sure plenty of people oppose government mandates on things, but that's not fighting for incandescent bulbs. If the government tried to ban LEDs, they'd hate that too. >
  
  Are you young? This is an older conservative thing, because they grew up with incandescents. The new generation of conservatives also thinks it’s a stupid hill to die on.
  I’m definitely not saying it’s a widespread belief. But there’s a significant enough amount to mention it. My dad held this belief for quite some time, but my more moderate stepmom has finally convinced him to switch and he prefers it 100% >
  
  
  This is an older conservative thing, because they grew up with incandescents
  
  I'm not that young, and the friends I referenced SURE as hell aren't young. I'm pretty sure some of them grew up BEFORE light bulbs. 
  There are tens of millions of conservatives. Like any other group of people, I'm not going to claim that NONE of them is prepared to fight that battle for whatever dumbass reason, but I don't think it's fair or accurate to paint it as a "conservative" viewpoint. >
  
  Well you missed the point of my last post.
  I said it wasn’t a widespread belief. But it IS a conservative one, as the primary people who hold this view are conservative. In fact, I’ve never heard of a non conservative arguing this. Just like communism is a leftist belief, but isn’t common in real democratic voters. 
  Just because something isn’t common in a group, doesn’t mean it can’t be attributed to that group. No need to get defensive about it. You can think it’s dumb, and also admit it’s a conservative belief. 
  I’m leftist, and I do this often with my own party. I have to deal with the hyper-woke crowd. I think you can deal with some lightbulb weirdos >
  
  Communism, and other leftist ideologies, isn’t ~~common~~ ‘present’ in Democratic Party voters because the Democratic Party isn’t leftist. In fact, Democrats are closer to Republicans in their economic platforms than even Socialists are to Social Democrats. >
  
  Or they spend a lot of money on electricity if they accidentally turn on a light and leave it on >
  
  they probably spend even less since decor is extra useless to them >
  
  what if there was a civilization of blind people who had to rebuild society in a cave after a surface cataclysm. none of them even know what light is
  damn i wish i had better writing skills