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  I’m a firm believer in the saying, “Give a man enough rope to hang himself.”
context: Even if McCarthy is able to get in, he's neutered himself so much that he's already a dead man walking as speaker. >
  
  Haha right. The power he gave them is fucking crazy. One member can call for his removal. >
  
  I give them a week and they use it 😂 >
  
  I’m expecting less than 24-48 hrs and they would. >
  
  They will and he knows they will. He also knows that they wont ever have the votes to remove him. He's accepting this as an annoyance that will buy him the speaker position. Becoming speaker is literally the only thing this idiot cares about. >
  
  And if the Dems go with them....out he goes and chaos continues.... >
  
  Is there a place where all these concessions are being tracked/listed?
  American voters need to know what kinds of shenanigans are going on with all this. >
  
  Hmm... I think I might have found a place that lists them: 
  Concessions. >
  
  I was hoping that linked to a clown circus. >
  
  Would be better for us all if it did. >
  
  And that's why some moderate repubs should have voted for Jeffries, it was only a matter of time before he caved and gave the freedom caucus power. I guess we'll see if he loses their votes after this. >
  
  That would be highlarious if he gets the hard righters on board only to lose the other shnooks. >
  
  I’d whisper into the ear of the Freedumb Caucus, “He’s lyiiiiing. He’s making promises he has no intention of keeping. He’s telling you what you want and need to hear but he is going to betray you.” Then you just have to sit back and let the paranoia do the rest. After all, what’s McCarthy going to do about it? Point to his record and show all the times he hasn’t lied or fucked people over? >
  
  
  “He’s lyiiiiing. He’s making promises he has no intention of keeping. He’s telling you what you want and need to hear but he is going to betray you.”
  
  But they're all republicans.  They're already pretty familiar with this core party platform.  They do it themselves. >
  
  But they always expect to be the screwer so I think they’d be shocked to end up as the screwee >
  
  Exactly. >
  
  Political appeasement has always worked well in the past, with absolutely no negative consequences whatsoever. >
  
  It’s pretty ironic that the Democrats need fewer votes than the Republicans for speaker at the moment. I am kind of surprised that they haven’t tried to buy six more votes to get Jeffries elected.
  Edit: if the Democrats chose a republican, that would guarantee the Maga wing gets crippled and has no committee seats or no influence at all it might be a win. >
  
  This can go on for a couple of more days. It really makes Republicans look bad so there isn't a hurry yet. Friday it might wrap up if there is a threat of Republicans having to work a weekend.
  Next week maybe, at some point Democrats are going to have to get the House back up and running before the story changes to blaming Democrats for not helping Republicans. But until that happens it's just Republican shit show and I'll enjoy the bad press for as long as possible. >
  
  I wouldn't rule-out the looming aesthetic that tomorrow is January 6th.  It'll be very easy for Dems (and me!) to parallel the chaos that came from outside in 2021 to the chaos coming from the inside in 2023. >
  
  I've already read a couple of articles with the word chaos in it so I'm glad that's finally trending. >
  
  
  “Please vote (for me)”
  
  
  Jebbin’ McCarthy >
  
  Despite everyone basking in this supreme humiliation of someone who deserves it, it's not good for America if Freedom Caucus members get more power in Congress. >
  
  Totally agree. This isn’t funny to me at all. >
  
  I think what makes "moderate Republicans" supposedly-moderate is that they do what they're told.  Therefore I seriously doubt any of them will change their votes away from McCarthy.
  They'll allow the Sedition Caucus to dictate these terms, and vote for McCarthy anyway.
  This could end today.  But the Speakership under McCarthy is going to be fucked if any one of these wingnuts can demand a no-confidence vote any time and as often as they want.
  If there's no way to end-run them by getting some Democrats to agree to vote present, these 20 reps get to dictate House rules for the next two years. >
  
  Aight, I think he's fucked.
  
  In a major allowance to the hard-right Republicans, McCarthy offered to lower from five to one the number of members required to sponsor a resolution to force a vote on ousting the speaker — a change that the California Republican had previously said he would not accept.
  
  Even if he gets the Speakership, he's bound to lose it. 
  And giving the Freedom Caucus so much power in committees will absolutely piss off established Republicans that actually have the tenure and experience for those roles.
  I'm not a gambling man, but if I were, I'd make a crazy bet right now. I think some establishment Republicans will vote for Jeffries (actually they'd probably vote present or just not show up) and Jeffries will win it.
  As much as I hate McConnell, I gotta be impressed with him. I know the Senate's a different animal than the House, but being able to hold together his clusterfuck of a party, and actually accomplishing what they want is incredible. >
  
  Not a chance.  They'll just support someone other than McCarthy.  Eventually Dems will let Republicans pick a speaker but Republicans will never allow a Democrat to be speaker. >
  
  The majority can always remove the Speaker when they feel like it >
  
  Yes, but Republicans, no Republican, will ever vote for a Democrat to be speaker.  Its unthinkable. >
  
  More unthinkable things have happened.
  If this continues for days, they are at serious risks of fracturing and destroying the party.
  Most of their base are ranging lunatics and blithering morons but not all and especially not some of tbe party’s donors. 
  This is just a prelude of the immediate future and it looks grim for Republicans: they are losing elections for years now, the Red Wave was a fluke that resulted in a meager, difficult majority in the House, with the extreme right wing of the party being a kingmaker despite being responsible for the disastrous electoral results, with RoevWade and other policies and legislative endeavors being unpopular, demographics unfavorable and the public more and more tired of the chaos.
  They are leaderless, visionless, spineless group of criminals that their only connective tissue between them is the grift.
  Democrats should stay away from the chaos, strife and wreckage and prove themselves effective, serious, capable, patriotic.
  This is a chance for a serious reset of American politics. >
  
  Just give it to Jeffries, it’s not like the GOP have an actual agenda…outside of impeaching Biden. >
  
  McCarthy has sold his soul to the devil. >
  
  He sold that years ago for a candy bar. He's got nothing left to barter with. >
  
  I hope they got creative in making McCarthy be their dancing monkey to get those votes. I’m talking things like he has to chug a gallon of milk or eat a spoonful or cinnamon on the House floor. >
  
  So does anyone thing today could be the final vote? Sounds like McCarthy is just completely folding to the rebels. >
  
  So, he could be working with the moderates and Democrats to make concessions, and there are a shitload more of them (one would dare say, an actual majority), to try and become speaker-- but no. But instead, we sink further into crazy town by trying to appeasing these 20 Republicans.   
  I don't think this is what the founding fathers had in mind. The GOP could be done with these people if they would just grow a spine. Instead, they are keeping Trump relevant and flushing America down the drain in the offing. >
  
  Any concessions he makes is bad for Americans! >
  
  This explains a lot:
  “Who didn’t get McCarthy money: Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Mary Miller (Ill.) and Chip Roy (Texas) did not receive any cash from McCarthy’s PAC in the last election cycle (but some have in past elections.)” >
  
  Kevin McCarthy has just made new concessions to get elected Speaker
  1. He agrees to babysit Matt Gaetz’s girlfriends
  2. He agrees to use a pumas stone on Margie Green’s foot fungus 
  3. He agrees to find Paul Gosar a family who doesn’t hate him 
  4. He agrees to teach Lauren Boebert to read >
  
  Is there a moderate Republican Democrats and a few Republicans can get behind? >
  
  They will be kissing their far right asses until the next election and they know it. They have 20 Manchin's on their team. >
  
  Wow…so basically at this point McCarthy just wants to be Speaker in name only. Because he’s bargaining away any and all power the position might potentially hold. At some point one has to ask if it’s even worth it anymore. >
  
  McCarthy right now. >
  
  I love how the solution the GOP comes up with for this problem is "move further towards extremism and partisanship" instead of "move slightly to the left to get some 20 D votes"
  Never doubt that the GOP lies when it says it wants bipartisanship. This is yet another sterling example of them rejecting an EASY opportunity to forge it. >
  
  "Please like me! Please, please like me! Lick lick slurp" >
  
  This guy can't negotiate with a bunch of 10 year olds, why should he be speaker. At this point I am convinced any baboon who can string a few sentences together can make it in politics. That being said I would like to announce my candidacy for POTUS😁. >
  
  I firmly believe that baboons are underrepresented in our government today and will gladly second your self nomination to help shrink this horrible baboon gap. >
  
  I think Democrats are misplaying their hand - they need to work on a compromise candidate instead of letting McCarthy make a zillion concessions to the Freedom Caucus. These concessions are bad, and they're only going to get worse. >
  
  “Roe v Wade is settled law.”/s
  And you think republicans will honor any compromise? >
  
  Not especially, no. But again, I believe the only other option is a McCarthy who's made explicit promises (and now revealed to the public) to the FC - and he'll have no choice but to deliver on those.
  Edit: You cannot give the FC such a public win in extracting all those concessions. You just can't.