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  Ukraine has already denied any truce.
context: …For anyone wondering, Russian Orthodox Christmas is Jan. 7th >
  
  Jesus had two birthdays? >
  
  Dang so he was really 132 when he died and not 33? >
  
  Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of maths? >
  
  I’ve been called the Pythagoras of my generation by people that know me >
  
  Technically he was 33.4 so he would be 133 >
  
  Goddammit >
  
  You can't just say the word ceasefire and expect anything to happen, Vladimir >
  
  Imagine if ceasefire could be declared unilaterally, there'd be absolutely no point to it then. Especially not when it's the aggressor who just needs a convenient break. Ukraine should just go even harder for those 36 hours as their way of saying "Fuck you, Vladimir Vladimirovich." >
  
  Absolutely. Putin will use that for propaganda to say how awful Ukraine is, but Ukraine should still push as Putin will self promote and spin no matter what. Putin is in the wrong and he needs to be pushed out of Ukraine by force as that’s the only thing he will recognise. >
  
  Even if Ukraine reciprocates, Russia will probably just bomb some of their own conscripts and claim that Ukraine broke the ceasefire. >
  
  If Ukraine reciprocates (they won't) Putin can say they're observing Russian Orthodox Christmas and therefore are part of Russia.
  (The Ukrainian Orthodox Church gives congregations a choice to celebrate on the 25th to align with other Christian groups or the 9th to align with Russian Orthodox. Both are national holidays.) >
  
  Russian Orthodox Christmas is celebrated on the 7th of January.
  Edit: added Russian since other Orthodox churches do celebrate Christmas on the 25th. The Russian Orthodox Church keeps to the Julian Calendar, Russian Orthodox Christmas is celebrated on January 7th. In the XXI century, the difference between the Gregorian calendar and the Julian calendar is 13 days. But, interestingly, in 2100, it will be 14 days, which will shift Russian Christmas on January 8th. >
  
  Russian Orthodox Christmas. Greek Orthodox Christmas is on the 25th of December.
  Source: Am Orthodox and until recent years I had no idea about the 7th of January thing :) >
  
  It’s 13 days behind, so technically on their calendar it’s December 25th. All Orthodox Christians technically celebrate on the same day. >
  
  Serbian Orthodox Christmas is also on the 7th >
  
  For our calendar, yes. Certain jurisdictions within Orthodoxy never changed their calendars, so when they flip open their service books in January, the date listed in still December 25th. >
  
  And then whatever Ukraine does, Russia Will accuse them of not wanting peace. >
  
  This is exactly the reason behind this statement >
  
  Russia loves that 4D chess.
  Too bad for them no one believes them anymore about anything. >
  
  Its not even 4D chess. It is the same trick in the book, again and again and again and again. Theres nothing smart or complex or even chess
  Its just that some people will stay extremely surface level and gobble any surface level excuse
  I am still shocked that there are people sincerely believing that russia is just going against some random nazis >
  
  When a person refers to 4D chess they're accusing a person of being dumb while pretending their moves are really smart.  It's a form of internet sarcasm. >
  
  Wait, are you trying to say that when Donald Trump couldn't spell hamburgers, suggested we drink bleach to cure a disease, or tried to nuke a hurricane that it wasn't part of some overarching grand political strategy that was just too complex for normal people to understand?!? >
  
  I do think nuking a hurricane would probably be the funniest way the US could possibly end itself. >
  
  Nukenado >
  
  Does that also have sharks inside it? >
  
  The (actual) final entry in the landmark series: 
  Sharknado 7: New Clear Op Shun >
  
  Russia is going to be moving equipment and troops very fast and in the open, so they are either able to reorganize and have time to prepare, or Ukraine, who never agreed to the ceasefire as far as we know, we shout them and Russia will declare they have broken a truce and commit more atrocities. >
  
  It's also an opportunity to say Ukraine is suppressing their Russian Orthodox Christians - since Ukraine Orthodox celebrate Christmas on the 25th now. >
  
  The issue is that Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine is trying to pass as a Ukrainian one, so no, doesn't count. >
  
  Oh fuck so they’re going to drop thousands of bombs? >
  
  In a way yes, Russia has been cutting down their daily artillery usage since Kherson fell so they can save up for their big counteroffensive that will probably take place in the next eight weeks. 
  Both sides are consuming artillery ammunition much faster than it can be produced. >
  
  One difference being that Russia has a small supply chain with few resources for restocking and Ukraine has the stock of most western supply chain at its disposal. >
  
  man don't get me wrong as a Romanian I hope they run out of ammo and get pushed back, but you people on reddit have been daydreaming about Russia running out of everything from cruise missiles to simple ammo since the fucking war started, and I'm tired of all this wishful thinking that Putin wouldn't first destroy ukraine than let it be free of him, somehow I doubt the war will end just because reddit thinks a smaller scale war than WW2 cannot be waged for several decades in our times, this same wishful thinking was saying the sanctions would stop Putin, even Jans Stontelberg just told people recently to stop underestimating Russia's willingness to wage war on the Ukrainians and take heavy losses, we are approaching 1 year of war and I don't have faith in this Russian ammo shortage happening in the next year either >
  
  Believe me, Russia got a lot of military power left. I am just saying that the math points towards Russia not winning anything. It will of course not be over tomorrow. They can be at war for a decade, and a lot of innocent people will die.
  People need hope, and in this case math of the supply chain gives a lot of hope. >
  
  Maybe one day he'll just say "I can't Afghanistand it anymore" and just pull everyone out of Ukraine? >
  
  That would possibly be political suicide. And it's likely that any political suicide in his position is also actual suicide. >
  
  Russia just wants to rest, rearm, resupply, retrain and come back again stronger than ever. Ignore them and keep fighting. >
  
  The problem is that even Ukrainian soldiers gets tired and needs rest but they got morale on their side so hopefully they'll keep the Russians warm this Christmas ⛄ >
  
  Ukraine has at least been rotating their troops, so they're in way better condition >
  
  So have the Russians. Troops get rotated out in coffins and new ones come in. >
  
  Coffins?  They're lucky to even get a bag. >
  
  A bag? What a waste of precious resources.
  Just dump 'em in a pit somewhere. >
  
  Or the nearest dumpster >
  
  Leave them on read, then ready the himars. >
  
  
  himars
  
  Ready the Warwolf!
  Edit: My friends, I meant this Warwolf. >
  
  Grond? >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  Grond. >
  
  After all the bullshit they have said, is the world supposed to believe this? >
  
  Just the stupids >
  
  Yup.  This is propaganda for the Russians themselves and their useful idiots overseas. >
  
  "The NVA would never attack on Têt"
  "The Marines would never land on Okinawa on Easter"
  "What is the Continental Army going to cross that river on Christmas? >
  
  "The Tet holiday's like the Fourth of July, Christmas and New Year all rolled into one." >
  
  The literal quote I was thinking of! >
  
  "What are you gonna do, stab me on Christmas?"
  -Man who was stabbed on Christmas >
  
  I dunno why this one was extra hilarious >
  
  Like when they agreed to a ceasefire in Mariupol, only to start attacking the evacuating civilians moments later? >
  
  And many other such cases. >
  
  Like the '94 accords where Ukraine gave up all of its nukes in exchange for Russia promising to never attack them. >
  
  Isn't a truce something that needs to be agreed on by both sides before it's announced? >
  
  It's just an element of russia propaganda to show that they a seeking peace and Ukraine doesn't want >
  
  Plus they assert that only their will matters. They believe they are in total control. >
  
  Russia was bombing Ukrainian civilians during Ukraine's New Year celebrations lmao. >
  
  As well as in the parliament joking about gifting Ukrainan children missiles as gifts for Christmas... >
  
  Where did you get that? >
  
  They weren't so accommodating on non Russian Orthodox Christmas >
  
  Ukraine is orthodox as well >
  
  Bulgaria is orthodox too, but we celebrate on 24/25th of December. It depends from country to country, it has nothing to do with orthodoxy in the whole of eastern Europe/West Asia >
  
  In Russia, from what I've heard, the 25th is 'western Christmas,' IE you get together and have a big meal and give people presents.  Jan. 7th is 'real Christmas,' where you go to church and think about Jesus being born and suchlike. >
  
  24th in Norway. >
  
  Scandinavian Christmas. >
  
  Yep we can't wait until Christmas morning for the gifts, and it's better to sleep in on the 25th after eating all that pork. >
  
  And duck if you are a Dane. Funny fish if you are Norwegian. And potato gratin with anchovies if you are Swedish. >
  
  Janssons Frestelse om jag får be >
  
  Janson’s Delight (not) >
  
  Russia never kept to any agreement with Ukraine, the audacity to ask for one from Ukraine is mind boggling.
  Bomb all filthy rat invaders. >
  
  I would instead expect Ukraine to hold a 38 hour shelling of troops in the occupied areas. >
  
  Sounds good. Hey mobiks, i heard its a great idea to have christmas parties with as many attendees as possible. If possible right besides ammo depots and your armored vehicles. >
  
  Don’t forget to livestream it >
  
  As if Putin's word is worth anything.
  How many civilians did you murder on Christmas Day? >
  
  Like the tenfold of times they promised civilian corridors last year and then promptly bombed them. They can fuck right off. >
  
  Don't forget to send your families back home a happy Christmas message so the himars know their next target xx >
  
  Why does this state-sponsored Christmas card read like a conscription notice? ~Russian citizen, probably. >
  
  TIL Russian Christmas is January 7 >
  
  Orthodox >
  
  I used to work with a bunch of Orthodox guys from Romania, and they all celebrated Christmas on Dec 25th. >
  
  yeah, no fucking way. they'll use that to their tactical advantage. as putin cares about christmas. lol. >
  
  Except, any time Russia says something, it’s a lie. >
  
  Here is hoping Ukraine does not respect that Truce! >
  
  The level of hypocrisy and cynicism from Russia is just hard to fathom. Even though I shouldn’t be surprised by how vile and low they are, I am again and again… >
  
  If they actually cared about the Eastern Orthodox practicers in Ukraine they wouldn’t have spent the last year raining down on them with missiles, rockets, and shells. >
  
  They rained down hell on Ukraine on Christmas Day.  Why should the Ukrainians respect theirs? >
  
  some russian pro-kremlin channels also say there's "insider information" putin might visit donetsk on that date >
  
  Yeah, naw, "bunker grandad" is not going anywhere near the action. He's afraid to even get journalists within shooting distance nowadays. His pr said he won't be meeting anyone outside in person anymore. >
  
  As a young kid, my best friends older brother was way bigger than us and a huge bully. One day, he wanted to spar or wrestle both of us at the same time. We got over our fear, worked together and took him to the ground pretty hard. He cried and called a timeout because a rock was in his shoe. There was no rock. Bullies just make shit up when they get hit back. >
  
  Russia: Please stop kicking our ass for a couple of days.
  Ukraine: No, I don't think we will. >
  
  Kyiv already rejected Kiril's proposal for a cease-fire earlier today, no reason for them to accept the same thing proposed by Putin instead of Kiril.
  The Russian Christmas will suck just as much as the Ukrainian Christmas did! >
  
  There can be a truce when all Russians are voluntarily/forcefully removed from Ukraine to include Crimea. >
  
  That's a feint -- Russia is desperate for a breather so they can re-group, re-assess and re-engage in Ukraine. Very smart of Putin to do something like that, but I am pretty sure Ukraine will rightfully ignore their BS "truce" and continue pounding them as usual to not give Russians any breather. Anyway, the mobiks lying in trenches and Wagner, are so far removed from God, Putins order for ceasefire does nothing for them. It's not like they're praying there. >
  
  So long as Russian troops are on Ukrainian soil, there will be no ceasefire. If Russia wants a ceasefire, all they have to do is leave Ukraine and end this war they started. >
  
  Merry HIMARMAS >
  
  It’ll be a blast! >
  
  Here's hoping Ukraine goes all WW1 Canada on them.
  Ukraine - *throws treats into the Russian trenches*
  Russian troops - "More! More! More!"
  Ukraine - *throws hand grenades next* >
  
  It's a joke the Russian church supports the war anyway >
  
  To honor that, Russia should let all their troops go home and spend time with their families. >
  
  TIME OUT I CALL A TIME OUT 🤣🤣 >
  
  Ceasefire to respect orthodox Christians but its okay for his troops to rape, murder and pillage all the other days of the year. >
  
  <<< Squints in George Washington Delaware River attire>>> >
  
  I’ll believe it when I see it, and even then I won’t trust it. At best a temporary truce is just an excuse for Russia to regroup and that’s assuming that it isn’t a pretext to nuclear shenanigans. >
  
  No. It's from the Kremlin. Church one was earlier today >
  
  Plus, Church is incredibly intertwined into the pro-War propaganda machine either way. >
  
  They are inseparable, the head of the church is one of the Putin's cronies, faces of the war machine*  
  ^(old, rusty, smoke-coughing war Lada, manufactured in USSR 1973) >
  
  Don’t worry we will cook your turkey with some HIMARS gobble gobble >
  
  New year's eve (which is a pretty big holiday in post-ussr, comparable to western Christmas) I fucking sat in an underground passage for 2 hrs because of explosions in Kyiv, and the next night I spent 4.5 hours in the metro due to drone attacks. This is a bunch of fucking depraved bullshit. I'm not sure how people from other countries perceive such news but for me it's not even worth any attention because it's so meaningless. There's nothing behind russia's words. >
  
  Enjoy having your Yule log pushed in by the boys in 💙 💛 >
  
  Putin declares war and martial law on the 8th. False flag event during the "ceasefire" will be the "casus belli". >
  
  Tet Offensive called and says Ukraine wants its territory back. >
  
  Like anything that comes out of the Kremlin can be trusted. >
  
  Russia traditionally uses a truce/ cease fire as a cover to restock and regroup. And then ignores it anyway. >
  
  They are going to continue attacking Ukraine through Christmas, Ukraine will fight back as usual, and then the Kremlin will say "LoOk, UkRaInE dOeSn'T wAnT pEaCe!" >
  
  I immediately assume Russia is planning a Christmas surprise attack >
  
  Then Ukraine should attack while Russians are all drunk. >
  
  I said time out!  You're cheating!  You aren't supposed to go yet!!! >
  
  Russia is that mean kid who asks for a ‘time out’ so they can catch their breath from losing during the ass beating they started. >
  
  Ya a guy start a fight and ask for it to stop when it was not going his way and I didn’t stop. Get fucked Putin. >
  
  Anything the Russians say is a fucking lie. Go to hell! >
  
  Putin says, "we declare a brief truce," I hear, "Please let us resupply our troops." >
  
  Inb4 Fox‘s Kremlin mouthpieces complain about Ukraine’ war on Christmas.. and American schools and conservatism and battery operated martial aides and working moms and the carbonated beverage industry and farmers and.. >
  
  HA. Anybody who knows about the TET Offensive and/or isn't brain-dead isn't buying it, Vladdy. >
  
  we terrorize and murder your civilian population but please let us enjoy our Christmas in peace please… Get fucked Poutine >
  
  Lots of people here not reading the article. First sentence literally says that it's Russian Orthodox Christmas, which is Jan 6-7. >
  
  I fully expect extra horrific violence from russia towards ukraine during the ceasefire hours because that’s the level of gaslighting they’ve established as their MO >
  
  At this moment I am too afraid to tell them that Christmas is over >
  
  But Christmas is already over? >
  
  The world doesn't revolve around you or what you say, Vlad. They want their home back, and Vladimir can cease once they all out of there. >
  
  Remember when they said they wouldn't fire on people fleeing the Ukrainian cities then absolutely fired on and killed Ukrainians? I don't see this being any different..... >
  
  If you believe that I have this bridge for sale in............. >
  
  The Ruzzians should celebrate the birth of Jesus by leaving, no more attacks on civilians (how many babies have been murdered), take their torturing scum soldiers off of Ukrainian territory and back to Ruzzia, this is the only way to celebrate Christmas >
  
  To everyone saying Russia is late: It’s for Russian Orthodox Christmas. 
  I have sincere doubts russia will actually cease fire but we’ll see I guess. >
  
  Time out guys, come on. >
  
  They could announce just fucking anything - we'll not buy it.
  Let's motherfuckers burn. >
  
  Bullshit >
  
  Putin trying to call a timeout lamo. >
  
  Sounds like a good day to target Moscow's electric grid. >
  
  INCOMING!!!!!!!!!!!!
  battle stations!!!!   If ever there was an assault it'd be then!!! >
  
  How about you fucking kill Putin, Kremlin.  Then you’ll have your peace. >
  
  Massmurderers need to go to church, were supposed to belive that? >
  
  Ammo dumps, bridges, power generators don’t observe Christmas.   Keep up the good work Ukraine and try to stay safe. >
  
  Liars >
  
  Not fealing any christmas love from the russian liars. >
  
  Yea right.   Who believes the kremlin. >
  
  Fuck your truce, Fuck Vladimir Putin, And fuck every war hungry oligarch in the Kremlin.