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  That system also works.
context: Street cars are just less useful busses for people who think they are too good for a bus.
  Anything a streetcar can do a bus can do. Plus a bus can do more. Problem on the track the street car line is block. Problem on the bus lane. The bus goes around. >
  
  Well, you know, there's nothing on earth 
  like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail. Whaddya say?? >
  
  The ring came off my pudding can >
  
  Use my penknife my good man! >
  
  Unless you have enough power to influence the automobile industry, streetcars will stay dead.
  The goal is not to make transportation better, but to maximize profits. >
  
  If we kept up with trains and we did with planes we could go coast to coast in 10 hours at least. >
  
  The rich use private jets, why would they care about your needs? Does it make them more money than selling more cars? >
  
  Car addicts will say no.    That is most Americans.   Upvoted.
  Even as a driver I wish I could park outside busy city centers and just hop on a street car and avoid all the madness of being in a car downtown.
  One caveat though...they have to operate until at least 2 a.m. >
  
  
  I wish I could park outside busy city centers and just hop on a street car and avoid all the madness of being in a car downtown.
  
  Like a bus? >
  
  That system also works. >
  
  I just mean why aren't you doing that right now? >
  
  I thought I was pretty clear about the 2 a.m. requirement.
  Also, we don't have anything like that here.   That sign suggests its conventient.
  And if you park here, it costs money.   It also costs for the bus.
  And the buses are infrequent, and don't stop near large parking lots..of which there are few here.
  My understanding was that with street cars, they did not even have stops really, you just just jump and off as you pleased.
  Edit:   Was looking for street car videos and I cannot find people getting on and off as its moving much.   Not sure where I got that idea. >
  
  
  Not sure where I got that idea.
  
  Probably old movies >
  
  this will never come to fruition because it just makes too much sense. >
  
  Fast trains are always worth it. Quick, efficient, cheap. In long term.
  But yes street cars. Absolutely. >
  
  I agree, in the sense that our infrastructure is too car-dependent and we need to make public transportation more efficient and readily available in more areas.
  That said, the GM streetcar conspiracy theory is probably just that: a conspiracy theory. Even the wikipedia article linked above noted that the reach of the conspiracy wasn't nearly as wide as we'd like to think, and that there were other factors that contributed to the decline of streetcars. >
  
  Planes killed trains intentionally.
  If we kept up with trains and we did with planes we could go coast to coast in 10 hours at least.
  Mine you dropping off the passengers would be a problem if the hook missed them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >
  
  The problem is that North American cities were built for cars. Often times new developments are built with cars in mind, and then they try to shoe horn in public transport later.
  Case in point. I used to live just outside Toronto. I technically lived 'across the street' from the train station. However, since it is a very car centric community, it still took me 15 minutes to cross the very busy main road and walk across the gigantic parking lot to actually get to the train platform.
  I now live in the UK. If I need to get to London, the train station platform is a 3 minute walk from my front door. They also just opened the new Elizabeth Line, that connects the train line into the London Underground. I get on 1 train and 30 minutes later I am in the middle of the city. No more train to the London station and then switching to the underground. All in one shot now.
  If anyone is interested, there is a youtube channel that talks about this a lot called JustBikes. I highly recommend it. >
  
  Since you're from southern ON, I was wondering if you knew about and had any thoughts on the light rail system in Kitchener-Waterloo. People seem to be fairly happy with it. I drive to work from Guelph, but it comes pretty close to the building. On Monday night, I grabbed a bite with some coworkers, and a local coworker caught it right next to the plaza. They seem quiet, too. >
  
  Most people in the US wouldn't use public transportation in they got a DUI and the bus stop was in front of their house. There's a stigma like using food stamps. >
  
  also crime >
  
  San Francisco >
  
  I should've worn my white pants for this thread. >
  
  im in toronto and we use streetcars gotta say its super convenient to get around downtown which is great cause parking is scarce if you drive >
  
  While I agree, the chances of that happening willingly are virtually zero. >
  
  i miss Toronto's old streetcars, not to say i hate the ones we have now; cause they dont make me motion sick. 
  but the old ones were good >
  
  As someone who has never been able to get a driver's license, I would wholeheartedly endorse, and use, this. >
  
  yeah well you can thank GM and Firestone for the lack of streetcars in america >
  
  Street cars are just less useful busses for people who think they are too good for a bus.
  Anything a streetcar can do a bus can do. Plus a bus can do more. Problem on the track the street car line is block. Problem on the bus lane. The bus goes around. >
  
  Well, you know, there's nothing on earth 
  like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail. Whaddya say?? >
  
  The ring came off my pudding can >
  
  Use my penknife my good man! >
  
  Unless you have enough power to influence the automobile industry, streetcars will stay dead.
  The goal is not to make transportation better, but to maximize profits. >
  
  If we kept up with trains and we did with planes we could go coast to coast in 10 hours at least. >
  
  The rich use private jets, why would they care about your needs? Does it make them more money than selling more cars? >
  
  Car addicts will say no.    That is most Americans.   Upvoted.
  Even as a driver I wish I could park outside busy city centers and just hop on a street car and avoid all the madness of being in a car downtown.
  One caveat though...they have to operate until at least 2 a.m. >
  
  
  I wish I could park outside busy city centers and just hop on a street car and avoid all the madness of being in a car downtown.
  
  Like a bus?