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  Are you telling me you don't actually have a specific justice system in mind here that you're basing your view on?
context: What does punishment actually accomplish, though? It seems easy to see what rehabilitation accomplishes -- the reformation of a criminal individual into a contributing member of society.
  So setting aside what is or isn't "fair," what do we get out of a punishment-focused justice system? >
  
  If there is no punishment, people will seek out their own. We often think of ourselves as high and moral people, but once those special foundations break down, you’d be surprised how many people will become barbaric. 
  Punishment takes the need for vigilantism, and for the victim or their family, to achieve justice/fairness out of their hands, and into the state. >
  
  Okay, so rather than talking in generalities, why don't you tell me what specific rehabilitation-focused justice system you have in mind and then we can discuss whether or not that seems to work with reference to actual statistics? >
  
  I’m not going to make a straw man for you, the CMV is in the title. I don’t know exactly what kind of specific rehabilitation there should be, but I can tell you this:
  There needs to be some punishment and rehabilitation, and also the ability to recognise, where necessary, that some people simply cannot be rehabilitated.