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  You literally still are dodging every point. You are accusing the wrong side of doublethink, and you are ignoring the explanation why it does make sense to give aid to Ukraine.
context: I'm pleasantly surprised at how firm support for Ukraine remains after almost a year, especially from otherwise war-weary Americans. Putin's hopes of the West losing interest or the stomach for this fight are rapidly evaporating. The West and its allies are fully committed to seeing Ukraine victorious, and that isn't going to change.
  In short: Russia, you're well and truly fucked. >
  
  America has been chomping at the bit for a battle with russa. This, holy sheet... golden ticket. We spent 60 years on this exact battle.  Granted,  russian propaganda has influenced the extremists in the right. Its sad but understandable.  Still, 90% of Americans love the idea of freedom,  so i HIGHLY  doubt support will ever drop by a significant amount >
  
  
  America has been chomping at the bit for a battle with russa
  
  Luckily we won't see one if our lifetime >
  
  True, but this is close, just send the stuff we been making. >
  
  The US isn't remotely near a war with Russia in Ukraine, it will simply never happen. Supplying weapons to a country does not count as being at war with that countries enemies - imagine if we look at who Russia has supplied since the 60's
  If you want to see US and RU military pointing weapons at each other, you can look at Syria - Russia's Wagner tried an assault on US personnel once and got smashed by a much smaller force so badly that it affected their entire operation in Syrian  
  The US certainly does not need Ukraine to fight with Russia >
  
  Thanks putin. Nice input >
  
  Nice cop out is more respectable than double down >
  
  Anyone claiming otherwise is either an idiot, or on Putin's payroll. >
  
  Some people are both >
  
  
  Anyone claiming otherwise is either an idiot and/or on Putin's payroll.
  
  FTFY >
  
  Gotta keep hitting Russia where it hurts! >
  
  Many understand this. The Russian scum and bought politicians are the real problem. Cough mtg(Russian asset) >
  
  Dont let tucker know, he will double down >
  
  USA MAGA: "No it won't..." 
  Ignores all the precedent$ - wonder why? >
  
  Duh! >
  
  They would know! >
  
  Hey Germany, ya know what would really support that claim? Placing Leopard 2s in the hands of Ukraine >
  
  In fights that are, as we have seen so far, mostly fought via Artillery, rocketry & drones, how exactly would a MBT help with that?
  Also - and i know it sounds like whataboutism, and i'm sorry it does - how come it's always Germany? Germany has given more than France, Italy and Spain combined. >
  
  Yup... that gepard shooting down drones would be far more important in my opinion >
  
  Of which Ukraine gets more as part of the new Marder package. It also contains a Patriot battery and additional Gepard.
  Still think Leopard (2) would be a good idea, but baby steps. My chancellor has to drag his shitty party one step at a time to a good position. >
  
  Personally,  i think super massive, Powell doctrine defense is whats needed.  Need to control the air, without modern intervention,  (that i think we need too) massive ground based defense is uber important... 
  Kik em out. Make 30 mile dmz. Constant war like NK. >
  
  What's the point of saying this, has any of the major allies shown any signs of stopping supporting Ukraine? It just keeps ramping up. And even if /certain/ EU countries want to stop sending supplies for whatever reason, the US is sending an absurd amount to the point where it's almost laughable in comparison to everyone else combined >
  
  Just by watching this sub I think the support is a lot less than it was 3 months ago >
  
  Well, the issue is that citizens of none affected nations are slowly getting used to the new immigrants/ refugees all the while also forgetting what is at stake here. Ukraine would become a new standard of apathy and acceptance for loss of sovereignty that will have consequences.
  I hate to say it but luckily the European government in general is switching from generations who avoided any idea of war to the point of effectively empowering it via appeasement to our younger generations who would rather stand for the fight.
  The problem is that wars tend to drag on and our own attention span tends to get diverted with new challenges or exhaustion. >
  
  I mean… who’s weakening support? France just pledged more aid and the US has increased sending Ukraine the only product that the US is good at making: things that go boom. >
  
  Germany is sending tanks now too. Apparently the three countries coordinated these recent delivery announcements. So I think this is more an explanation towards that next big step taken now I think. >
  
  Tanks or armored vehicles? Last I heard Germany was vehemently against sending their Leo’s but was happy to send Gerard’s and the like. >
  
  Basically, Russians are like Romulans >
  
  Germany gave Russia every opportunity to join the modern world and Russia decided to kill John Wick's dog instead.  The Germans aren't thrilled about that. >
  
  The idiots responding to this remind me of the run up to Iraq and the way people just obliviously repeated what the media said
  Like aren’t they also winning? Isn’t Russia being proven to be pretty incompetent? So why exactly do they need more support?
  Doublethink is a universal quality of idiocy and blind loyalty >
  
  
  Doublethink is a universal quality of idiocy and blind loyalty
  
  I've been seeing the doublethink accusation by russia apologists a lot recently, is that your latest propagandist projection? Russia is an expert of getting its people to believe in doublethink, for example they're claiming that a country with the most nukes is under threat from a country with 0, or anyone for that matter. Russia claims to be the superior alternative to the West, yet the russian economy is worthless, just extracting and reselling the planet's resources. And of course, the amazing doublethink of you accusing others of doublethink where there is none, when you should be looking in a mirror. >
  
  Accusing me of something I’m not without even bothering to comment on what I actually said, nice work >
  
  Others have commented enough on your nonsense about this post. It should be obvious that despite russia's incompetence, it's not over, any aid will reduce Ukrainian suffering, and russia always had a proclivity for seeking victory at any human cost. As for you, yes, anyone who defends russia is brainwashed by russian doublethink, as I explained, and you ignored. >
  
  What if you’re the one whose brainwashed and you don’t know it
  Is there any self awareness or capacity for doubt in that brain of yours, what about any capacity to handle moral complexity and shades of grey >
  
  Well I actually presented arguments, while you're having a tantrum and throwing out nothing but ad homs, so, no, chances are I'm right and you're brainwashed. >
  
  Not really actually haha just said I was a Russia defender, I didn’t see a single argument >
  
  The points are:
  " Russia is an expert of getting its people to believe in doublethink, for example they're claiming that a country with the most nukes is under threat from a country with 0, or anyone for that matter. Russia claims to be the superior alternative to the West, yet the russian economy is worthless, just extracting and reselling the planet's resources. And of course, the amazing doublethink of you accusing others of doublethink where there is none, when you should be looking in a mirror."
  " It should be obvious that despite russia's incompetence, it's not over, any aid will reduce Ukrainian suffering, and russia always had a proclivity for seeking victory at any human cost" >
  
  First one isn’t an argument that has anything to do with what I’m saying, it’s calling me a Putin shill and saying how shitty Russia is doing. I’m not even disputing with how shitty Russia is doing, I’d agree with what you’re saying about Russia, which is why I think giving Ukraine even more right now makes no sense. 
  Saying “it should be obvious” is not an argument either
  Got anything else?