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  I gave a delta to someone on this point already
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  House elves enjoying slavery and Hermione being mocked for SPEW: The house elves are brainwashed into thinking that they enjoy slavery, but it’s clearly presented to the reader how mistreated they are, even by the “good guys” like Sirius. I really grew to appreciate Hermione being mocked for SPEW by the other students, because she ends up being right-Kreacher betrays Sirius because he feels no loyalty to him. Dumbledore acknowledges it. Also, Sirius acknowledges it in GOF with Crouch mistreating Winky. It’s an interesting subplot.
  
  I actually agree with your broader point and the other examples, but strongly disagree with this one, the SPEW plot did end up being grossly pro-slavery.
  Kreacher's betrayal didn't justify SPEW's position, it justified the enslaver Dumbledore's position that people should be kinder to those they enslave. The end of the story is still Harry keeping Kreacher in enslaved status. Hermione ends up working for the Ministry to pass laws for the better treatment of enslaved elves.
  The underlying message is absolutely that young Hermione's radical abolitionist position was just as misguided as Sirius's casual disgregard of house elves, and that the truth is somewhere in the middle. >
  
  I do actually agree with your point, I didn’t even consider it in that way that yeah, the slaves still exist. Dumbledore offers wages to Dobby because he asks but it’s not like he offers it to any of the others freely. I’d mostly just appreciated that Sirius’s cruelty ended up being his downfall. Tbh Dumbledore is a dick anyways. 
  !delta for the SPEW, I stand corrected >
  
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  Also, Sirius acknowledges it in GOF with Crouch mistreating Winky. It’s an interesting subplot. 
  
  You missed a major part of that plot ending mate. The plot resolution to slavery of a sapient race is that the slave owners should be nicer to their slaves. Not that they shouldn't have slaves. Not that slavery is bad. The house elfs aren't freed. Harry Potter doesn't even free his own slave at the end of the book. No, the conclusion is that slavery is perfectly find, so long as you treat your slaves well. And that is bullshit. And it's major bullshit at that. Calling it out on that is not nickpicking