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  The same way all of the other tings he lied about, like deliveries, cash on hand and burn rate, weren't considered fraud. Because the SEC isn't doing their job.
context: Fully Self Driving! Coming “Soon” in 2015. >
  
  i'd like to go back to 2015. >
  
  Fuck that, if we are going back take me back to 1992, those years fucking rocked >
  
  90’s looked like it was a good time to be alive this is coming from a younger person >
  
  It was. Businesses sought to put the customer first in many situations generally leaving the consumer with the advantage, a single income could afford a family to live comfortably (generally), music and television was really breaking into the scene with recording tech getting better and there were no mobile devices, meaning people interacted more with each other. 
  It was just comfortable. 
  If your mom wasn't sleeping with everyone she could find leaving two young children to wonder what they did wrong and watch it eat their dad alive, that is. >
  
  As long as you weren't colored it sure was great >
  
  This always perplexes me! It seems like racism is more of a thing today than it was back then. This is even coming from someone that grew up in Mississippi. We seemed to just... coexist. Sure there were the occasional hillbilly trash that only existed to make others that didn't look like them miserable, but the communities always seemed to hate those folks.
  But I was also young at the time. Through 2004, I never saw as much racism as I do today. It's really sad. I hope you didn't have to go through a lot of it. >
  
  It was so much more hidden back then. Now it's out in the open and everybody recognizes the micro aggressions but my name was literally "flat face" until I moved out of New Jersey. They called my ching Chong all the time even though Im Vietnamese. Countless incidents that due to a TBI I probably don't even remember anymore. 
  We tolerated it more because it was so common place. Then we stopped tolerating it and that's what you're seeing now >
  
  This is great perspective - we couldn't so easily interact with everyone, so it must have been a lot more contained. Now everyone feels like they have a soap box and throw their opinions all over social media and I can see where the anonymity can make racism so much worse today.
  And sorry you had to go through that. I was the only red head in my school and got it bad, too. The one good thing about being red headed is - white, black, yellow or green... Everyone seems to all come together when there's a ginger joke to be made lol. Eeerrybody gets offended at classifications, but when the ginger guy shows up, the masses are united.
  Sigh..lol >
  
  That was a great exchange.  I'm glad I got to read it. >
  
  I'm beginning to believe this Musk fellow lacks integrity. >
  
  Did he buy Twitter to hide the market manipulation? >
  
  He bought Twitter because his bot nets were being detected. It's not a coincidence that the whole thing started shortly after investigative reporters showed how bot nets were amplifying his messages in conjunction with major upward swings in the price of Tesla. >
  
  While it is true he was doing this, the reason for the purchase seems like it's even dumber.
  Basically he was chatting with Twitter board members when he was considering joining the board, including Jack Dorsey, about how to improve Twitter. While this was happening, he was tweeting out some anti Twitter stuff. Jack told him that "you can tweet what you want, but this isn't helpful". This cause Musk to have a meltdown and say "I can't deal with this bullshit, I'm going to buy Twitter and take it private".
  Yeah. Jack sold Twitter for 4x it's value by respectfully speaking to Elon like he was an adult while he was behaving like an edgy teenager on his website. >
  
  Parag told him that, not Dorsey if I remember correctly. >
  
  Thanks for the correction, I thought it was Dorsey. >
  
  Its extremely pertinent though as Musk respects Dorsey and seemingly has less than zero respect for Parag. >
  
  A guy who grew up in apartheid south Africa doesn't respect a person of color? Say it ain't so! >
  
  Hey dude, I get what you mean by this post but there’s a whole lot being said here that I think you probably don’t mean.
  I’m literally “A guy who grew up in apartheid South Africa” my mom was a PoC and my dad was white, she had to endure the pencil test (look it up) in order to marry him when she discovered she was pregnant or they could both face jail time and possible ‘disappearance’ by the SAP. If I’d turned out like a single shade darker the same fate could have befallen them. 
  My dad was active in the struggle and I have a half brother who we kept a secret because he was too brown.  They are both literally “A guy who grew up in apartheid South Africa.”
  This country has a very dark, painful history so all I’m asking is that you consider what you are invoking when you use this line against Elon who, I totally agree is one of the more reprehensible characters of our time. >
  
  I'm pretty sure op meant Elon was a rich white person in apartheid South Africa >
  
  This seems like misrepresenting risk and worth to investors. >
  
  How is this not fraud for a public company? The CEO said that these were the capabilities of the vehicle and that's patently false.
  There's no doubt that investors saw this as a demonstration of the product's capabilities and invested accordingly. Especially since Tesla has been positioning itself as a "tech" company rather than a car company. 
  This is fake, misleading, and still not present in Tesla vehicles.
  Next you're going to tell me we won't start colonizing Mars this year.