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  Idk about that. Get a few more normie establishment Dems elected (as opposed to the hardcore antiestablishment centrists like Manchin and Sinema) and a democratic house too and we may be able to see the debt ceiling removed or effectively removed. The whole "both sides" thing is rather tired at this point
context: Get ready for a long shut down with a side of wrecked economy. >
  
  I like to dunk wrecked economy right into a recession dip. >
  
  Mcshutdownuggets? >
  
  Do not negotiate with terrorists. >
  
  I’m expecting a full blown WWE cage match in the house with the way things have been going recently. >
  
  Can I get in on that? Would love to body slam Gym Jordan. >
  
  You're gonna have to wait in line.  I'm sure several Ohio State wrestlers would have first priority. >
  
  And of course, when it happens it’s okay to look the other way… >
  
  Every time Republicans gain a majority in the House, it's the same old song and dance with the debt ceiling. >
  
  It's a free opportunity to complain about government spending, but not actually do anything to cut government spending which might hurt them at the polls. >
  
  In fact, they REFUSE to curb .gov spending.  They just want to complain.  They’re less than worthless. >
  
  They make it worse by trying to cut taxes every time. What their first bill was to enable tax cheats. I’m sure a third massive tax cut is already being written to introduce to the house (and the only permanent parts once again for the 1%). It’ll be one of the only breaks from the clown car of “investigations” that are about to appear. >
  
  1). Cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations (and only the wealthy and corporations - definitely do not cut taxes for anyone making under $1 million per year)
  2). Expand military spending - just vote “yes”…..doesn’t even matter what the number is as long as it’s “more”
  3). Blame the democrats for the deficit and overly tax burdened middle class >
  
  4) claim we need a tax cut to lower deficit >
  
  5). Elect people who can’t pass the GED so the math doesn’t matter…..because they can’t do it >
  
  In a way, Republicans really did make their own bed with this. If Republicans didn't use deficit spending as a political tool to undermine Democratic initiatives then perhaps it would be taken more seriously by the left today. 
  When Bush and Republicans got rid of Clinton's surplus plans? It was pretty clear to everyone what they actually were doing. They don't care about the debt or deficit, they just care about undermining liberal initiatives. Which they have gone to great lengths to do. 
  Conservatives deserve the eye rolling and backlash they get when they bring this up. They brought it on themselves.... >
  
  Why do Republicans hate America? >
  
  They love America. They just hate Americans. >
  
  They're going to do whatever they have to to kill social security and Medicare. In the past this has been performative, but this time the house is full of true believers. >
  
  They didn't have a problem raising it when trump was president. >
  
  This.  The sheer hypocrisy of Republicans having no issue with the debt ceiling while Trump was in office, having fought Obama tooth and nail over it and now suddenly having a problem with it when Biden is in - it’s just unbelievably amazing but not surprising. I wish American voters would recognise this and show their distance for it at the polls.
  Republicans are just unprincipled, one trick ponies. I can’t believe I respected them years ago thinking “you may not agree with them but have to respect that they principled”.  What a load of shit. >
  
  The GOP do not care what happens to the country. Right now democrats hold the WH and senate. So if the GOP screws over the country they will point at the democrats and blame them. This is why when gas prices were so high, you can almost see the hlee and joy from republicans while they blame Biden. They love when the country is worse off and willing to help it happen if it means they can say oh look,  democrats are in charge so it is all their fault. 
  This is why I always hate seeing these charlatans spew garbage of loving this country and its freedoms. All the while deliberately sabotaging it and undermining this countries values. >
  
  When the Senate passes a bill, then it's just whoever can yell more convincingly about whose fault it is >
  
  At what point, if ever, does a group of reasonable Republicans finally say "enough" and just side with Democrats on bullshit like this? >
  
  "reasonable" Republicans would have to exist for this to happen. >
  
  In this case, "reasonable" just means "they'd lose so much money during a debt limit induced recession/depression that they fear for their personal financial stability. They still might hold extremist views but they're also afraid that driving the economy over the cliff will result in them in the fiery wreck as well.
  In addition, a "reasonable" Republican (as far as this is concerned) might be one that realizes that causing a debt limit induced recession will hurt them politically.
  In other words, pure self interest might lead them to strike a deal with the Democrats. Their "reasonableness" will be relative to the Republicans itching to blow up the entire economy just to "own them libs." >
  
  GOP Weaponizes Debt Ceiling vote to enable cuts to Medicare and Social Security. >
  
  Here comes the "Don't make me hit you!" phase of the abusive relationship. >
  
  LOL what fight? It's McCarthy's house It's his responsibility to raise it. >
  
  If ever democrats get a filibuster super majority the debt ceiling needs to be abolished. >
  
  So the Democrat's game here is to cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tell the GOP to do their job, right? >
  
  We hate spending money, that’s why we get all of ours from Lobbyists. >
  
  Republicans want this clash every year to remind everyone how much the government spends beyond it's means.
  Democrats want this clash every year to show how republicans are willing to hold the economy hostage.
  No politician is actually going to get rid of the meaningless debt ceiling or stop the overspending which it is supposed to discourage.