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  What’s the danger of China having my data versus the US government though? China has no jurisdiction over me and can’t really harm me unless I decide to go visit or live there. The US government can put me in prison. I’m not advocating for China to have my data but I fail to see how it’s so much worse than a three letter agency or law enforcement having access to it.
context: I thought the whole state of Utah banned it for a second... >
  
  Give it about 2 months. >
  
  "What is wired?"
  - my 19-year-old co-worker >
  
  It was magazine. I mean, a mini-book with pictures. A monthly blog printed on paper, if you will... A blog is a tiktok with words. No not the narrator. >
  
  No, more like:  Greg Abbott allows Chinese firms to buy up vast swaths of Texan farmland, oilfields and water aquifers and then blames it on "the Biden Administration" >
  
  Not true, China owns less than 1 % of foreign countries invested farmland in the US. Doubt that 1% is all in Texas.
  Edit: Corrected to 1% instead of 0.25%
  Edit 2: USDA reported that foreign individuals and entities held an interest in 37.6 million acres of U.S. agricultural land at the end of 2020, representing 2.9% of all privately held agricultural land and 1.7% of all land in the U.S.  Canadian investors own the largest share of foreign-held land in the U.S., 12.4 million acres, making up 32% of all foreign investments, followed by the Netherlands with 13%, Italy with 7% and the U.K with 6%.  Chinese investors hold 352,140 acres of American land, representing slightly less than 1% of total foreign ownership. >
  
  I wonder what a dot of .24% of the United States would look like. >
  
  If I did my math correctly; it would be roughly the size of New Hampshire. 
  The US has a total land area of 3.797 million sq miles. 
  .24% of 3,797,000 is 9112.8 sq miles
  New Hampshire is 9,349 sq miles >
  
  When you have an operating nuclear reactor and the data associated with it and research done with it on your network, I can see why you wouldn't want China using backdoors via tiktok into your network.  
  Edit: The number of shadow banned responses I'm getting is truly hilarious. >
  
  There's almost no way that there's data associated with the nuclear reactor going over the main camous UT network lol >
  
  True, but how much would you trust the compartmentalization of their individual networks? >
  
  Pretty well, considering the risk, and I'm sure they already ban the majority of social media/etc from being used inside. >
  
  Unless they keep their research on local-only networks that have zero connection to the internet, I wouldn't trust access to any of the networks in the system. There are too many ways for interconnection from network to network.  
  Edit: I wouldn't trust allowing a known Chinese government spying software access to any network in the system* >
  
  Not sure what UT does, but that's exactly what the Navy does. >
  
  I trust the Navy slightly more than I trust any state run entity in Texas >
  
  I only trust the Navy to have never hooked them up to the internet at all.
  I picture them using IBM punch cards. >
  
  Admiral Adama has entered the chat. >
  
  so say we all! >
  
  It’s wild how many people don’t care about their data and privacy. I’ve told my sister in law numerous times about this and she, a 20 something year old, doesn’t care or understand.
  Anyways, I have no problem with government / corporate issued devices or networks not allowing KNOWN unsafe and insecure apps, websites, etc. the general public really needs a serious lesson in cyber security. >
  
  If you're in an important secure job or having things like financial information get out, yeah but a person posting "Hey guys, having a birthday party at Chuck E Cheese for my six year old kid Devin" is not going to seriously harm the majority of people, what do you think malicious actors in the Chinese government or Facebook could realistically do with that? Nobody in China is looking at a trending TikTok dance by a stay at home soccer mom married to a vending machine executive and thinking "Yes, this will help us plan our attack on American infrastructure if war were to break out", they'd be looking for people with actual real connections to important shit. >
  
  It’s always surprising how dumb smart people can be. The guy having a birthday party for his kid ends up being the top security guy who uses his kids birthday as a password. >
  
  Sure but the large majority of the population are not top security guys. >
  
  Yeah, but the more widespread the app is, the more likely you are to pick up something like that. >
  
  Maybe but that's only an argument for top security personnel to need to be more careful, the suburban soccer mom still doesn't really need to worry about their TikTok dance. >
  
  Also I I’d almost rather a foreign country has this info than a U.S. country who can use this data against you more easily. >
  
  Don’t people just use their phone’s 5G data? >
  
  You can. This is just for UT devices or devices on UT networks. >
  
  The latter includes most students using campus wifi in their dorms though >
  
  Banning something has never in the history of the world made people want it more >
  
  You can tell the age & whether or not they use tiktok by some of these comments. >
  
  I would love to block it on my home router but they made their links super long and super sparse to make it hard to block. >
  
  So patriots are fine the the NSA spying on them, and the entire planet. But worried China might see their selfies. >
  
  I'm pretty sure it's more about making sure foreign governments don't have spyware on their network >
  
  The GOP wants to sell that data to China, they don't want them to get it for free. >
  
  Honestly if we just banned all social media from phones and only allow them on desktop...may fix a lot of issues around society. After taking all of them off my phone and now forgetting my phone even exists half the time, I've realized it's the thumb throw "casino slot machine" feeling that is the addictive part...just one last hit. On desktop it doesn't do shit for me, I just check it once or twice a day and walk away, nothing addictive at all about it. >
  
  I recently started wearing normal "dumb" watches. It's surprising how much less you use the phone when you aren't using it to check the time. It keeps you from doing the whole "check time > see notifications > check notifications > spend a half hour or more on social media" thing that can happen multiple times a day. >
  
  notifications are a mental parasite for these applications.
  I am quite happy to have turned off nearly all of them.  The only things that get the permission of a notification are things that actively require an immediate response. >
  
  Pardon my ignorance, but what is Tik Tok actually doing?  How is it a threat to a network?  Doesn't a phone's security stop it from accessing other nodes on the local network? >
  
  You’d think. And frankly, my hope is that this wave of scrutiny for TikTok catches up with the rest of the tech industry. Commodification and collection of user data, including data of people who themselves are unwitting to their data being collected and furnished by proxy (i.e. your friend makes an agreement that allows your number to be documented off of their contacts list), should be illegal. 
  The lack of regulation for the billion $ data brokerage market is baffling and a gross violation of our collective basic right to privacy. >
  
  It’s not even close! Here’s a summary from a white paper regarding the massive security risk that is TikTok:
  “At Penetrum, we strive to provide the most detailed, transparent, and accurate security analysis and audits that are within our ability. We also strive to develop the most ambitious, yet practical cybersecurity tools and use them in the field. After extensive research, we have found that not only is TikTok a massive security flaw waiting to happen, but the ties that they have to Chinese parties and Chinese ISP’s make it a very vulnerable source of data that still has more to be investigated. Data harvesting, tracking, fingerprinting, and user information occurs throughout the entire application. As a US company, we feel that it is our responsibility to raise awareness of this extensive data harvesting to TikTok’s 1 billion users.” >
  
  Is this more than what FB does, or are they not a security risk because they are subject to our laws? Also, we welcomed almost the entire browsing world to this shit (Chrome variant users) with manifest v3 as of New Years, so Im sure China and every other nation that spies,  and all the data miners and fingerprinters are going to just love that. >
  
  Apple and Google shouldn't host the CCP app, TikTok. >
  
  Good. TikTok needs to be just outright blocked in the US. >
  
  Tiktok should be banned in the US. Not for the content that gets uploaded for views, but for the fact it's a confirmed literal Spyware.
  Federal employees, contractors, and DoD already aren't allowed to have it >
  
  
  She says she's not concerned about potential privacy risks from the TikTok app.
  
  Exactly why they are taking the steps to block it. People that use TikTok aren't smart enough to comprehend the risks the spyware poses. >
  
  Please explain the risks. And what is the spyware? >
  
  Welcome to the era of pre-banning the ability to share thoughts and experiences. Is any other part of the internet so heavily scrutinized?
  ETA: so so sorry that I'm not brainwashed into the reddit "everything China=Bad 😡😡😡😡" hivemind. >
  
  TikTok is a massive breach of privacy.  Would you mind the NSA spying on your habits? >
  
  they already do? >
  
  Yeah, and nobody likes it.  So why is it ok for China to do it so you can just endlessly scroll through a bunch of dumb short videos all day. >
  
  So why isn't anyone doing anything about the US spying? >
  
  Because US politicians don't care or understand what the technology is.  It's easy for them to point at TikTok being a national defense issue (it is) because it's connected to the China, but they'll use that same national defense argument to justify NSA spying.  And most Americans with voting power are either don't know their privacy is at risk, are tech illiterate, or just don't care about constantly giving out their data and say "well I've got nothing to hide" like it's a sign of honor. >
  
  tiktok is sooo dry anyways these days. All the kiddies are on BeReal while tiktok is filled with spam & self-promotion content. >
  
  I thought tiktok sold parts of the company to the US to operate here? China does not even have access to the US data, that was the whole point. >
  
  
  Why all the hate for tik tok? 
  
  I'll take this one at a time. 
  
  Every app does the same thing, 
  
  You ain't necessarily wrong in that case, but TikTok has turned it into an art form.
  
  because it’s China it’s bad I guess? 
  
  Foreign and hostile government spying on US citizens and logging all of their data is bad.
  
  Sounds like xenophobia. 
  
  Nah, not really. It's because they're not a friendly country. 
  
  Facebook and Amazon sell info to the government all the time.
  
  To the US government. Biggest of big differences. If Facebook and Amazon were nakedly selling data to the Chinese government? That's a different story. 
  And also...
  why not do that too? Let's just have this be a starting point to regulate this shit.