comment: >
  
  Thank you for saying so. You'd be surprised on how poorly "The Constitution is bad, actually," goes over at parties.
context: Love that Jeffries has beaten him every vote. >
  
  Imagine if a half-a-dozen Republicans flipped and went for Jeffries as a tantrum. >
  
  heck i don’t think he wants it either 😂 imagine trying to do anything or lead anything with this house. stupid fights all day every day >
  
  That’s the Catch-22 of the situation for Jeffries. If he miraculously becomes Speaker, his prize is trying to get anything accomplished in a Republican majority house. He’ll be excoriated by the far right in the news and used as a lightning rod for every failure…every day until he’s forced to resign. Begs the question why anyone would want to be Speaker right now lol >
  
  At the very least the house won't be endlessly trying to impeach Biden for funsies so that would be a win. >
  
  
  impeach Biden
  
  Joe? Or Hunter?
  Though if Republicans could get their act together, I'm sure they'd impeach both of them, and Major as well. >
  
  If they did impeach they would probably get his name wrong (likely forget he is "Joseph Robinet Biden JR." And just write "Brandon" >
  
  My personal morale is improving with each vote fwiw. >
  
  Shh! Don’t tell them! I want the public humiliation to continue! >
  
  "The humiliation of Kevin McCarthy" sounds like a classic piece of English literature. 
  Or at least a fun porno >
  
  “To be (speaker), Or not to be…(speaker). That is the question!” >
  
  "Alas, poor Kevin, I knew him well." >
  
  A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy, >
  
  He hath borne Trump on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! >
  
  "What are you doing, step-reps?" >
  
  Getting to see McCarthy humiliated every day, really makes me feel good inside. >
  
  I hesitate because his replacement could most likely be worse. >
  
  Just put the biggest clown up there. George Santos, MTG, Boebert. Show the GOPs true face. Nothing will get done either way >
  
  Based on MTG's comments last night, seems like there might be a few fractures in the lunatic fringe. Sporkfoot was going off about how Bobo the clown, and Matt Gaetz and Biggs met with McCarthy to demand committee chairmanships, etc, but didn't ask for anything for her. Are the Plastics breaking up? >
  
  Pretty sure the fracture started because Margarine went to McCarthy first to get promises of sweet committee positions and didn't ask for anything for the rest of them  
  Or... they're just petty, backstabbing, childish traitors >
  
  IIRC, it's the other way around, MTG got hung to dry by the other House Freedumb Cockless band >
  
  My take is that Madge Tadge Gadge cut an early deal with McCarthy where he would restore her to committees and she took it to start repairing her reputation with the mainstream GOP
  The MAGA GOP fringe stabbed her in the back over it, and now she's locked into supporting him and they see her as a traitor. 
  Problem with the far right is that no one is ideologically pure enough for them forever. They always get outflanked from the right and become RINOs marked for destruction. >
  
  Madge Tadge Gadge?
  Are you  a connoisseur of "Puzzle in a Thunderstorm" content, by any chance? >
  
  Oh is that where I picked that up??  
  edit: that was an Eli thing, wasn't it? >
  
  Almost certainly, if you are a listener. I think Eli coined it. >
  
  Will this redefine McCarthyism? >
  
  Well, it’s always sort of been a synonym for loser, so not really. >
  
  Loser ✅
  Fascist ✅
  Conspiracy enabler ✅
  Sounds like McCarthyism to me! >
  
  best quote in here by a mile.....
  "Boebert conceded that McCarthy had met the holdouts on some demands, but 
  questioned if McCarthy was the right person for the job if he hadn’t 
  suggested those reforms himself. "
  actually a god damn toddler.  Kevin is conceding,  so her new stance is 'well you made me ask for what I wanted so fuck you still'.  actually crazy highschool SO levels of logic in the GOP caucus. amazing. >
  
  Even better would be "You are conceding to me. We don't need someone in that position who is conceding to the opposition." >
  
  "I would never be a member of a club that allows someone like me to become a member!" >
  
  That’s Marxism for you >
  
  Wrong kinda Marxism >
  
  This is entertaining and all but, many conservatives are voting no on him because he's not hardlined enough for them. I can't imagine who they would want in his place. >
  
  And now he's bleeding votes because establishment is losing faith in him to effectively lead and reign in the hardliners. >
  
  His job is to whip his caucus. He can't get them to agree on who the Speaker should be. If this was a job interview, he failed. I don't blame any establishment GOP for jumping ship. >
  
  Yep, dude's been in politics for 30 years but is horribly ineffective for the job he desperately wants.  Hoping for a huge twist at the end in which Jeffries become speaker. >
  
  He rode in on the tea party wave. This obstruction he's facing, this is the shit him and others threw at boehner and Ryan lol
  This is exactly what got Kevin into congress. 
  He's just now "on the other side" lol >
  
  When you invite lunatics to your party, eventually the lunatics start asking who invited you. >
  
  That’s a hell of a quote there. >
  
  Wish I could take credit. I saw it somewhere earlier and it seemed to good to let disappear in the comments. >
  
  Republican super PAC must be freaking out to find out money can’t solve everything. They natured crazy leopards and now they are biting their faces >
  
  If for the next 2 years all the house did was try to elect a Speaker the country will be in a better place than if the GOP actually takes control. >
  
  Well, until we need to raise the debt ceiling and pass a budget in a few weeks. Other than that… probably >
  
  AFAIK the budget was already pre approved until Sept 2023. >
  
  Budget bill didn't raise the debt ceiling >
  
  6th vote finished. Here's how the votes have counted thus far:
  |     | Banks | Biggs | Donalds | Jeffries | Jordan | McCarthy | Zeldin | Others | Present |
  |:----|:-----:|:-----:|:-------:|:--------:|:------:|:--------:|:------:|:------:|:-------:|
  | 1st |   1   |  10   |    1    |   212    |    6   |   203    |   1    |   0    |    0    |
  | 2nd |   0   |   0   |    0    |   212    |   19   |   202    |   0    |   0    |    0    |
  | 3rd |   0   |   0   |    0    |   212    |   20   |   202    |   0    |   0    |    0    |
  | 4th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    |
  | 5th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    |
  | 6th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    | >
  
  In theory, if any six Representatives vote "Present", Jeffries wins. Even if he wins at 206, right?
  Could the Democrats just force it? >
  
  There are 434 reps, so you need 218 to win.  If 6 vote present then you need 215 to win.
  McCarthy is getting 201 votes, so the Dems would need 202 votes to win.  Right now they are only getting 212 for Jeffries. That means they can afford to lose 10 votes.
  If 10 democrats vote present that would just mean that they would need 212 votes to win. And they won't have that if 10 of their votes go away. The only way for the math to work out is for 10 republicans to vote present.  
  And since that would have the same effect as making the democrats win, they won't do it. If they wanted that they would have already voted for Jeffries or voted present. >
  
  If only there was a German word for expressing delight at other's misfortune! >
  
  schadenfreude’s cat >
  
  I don't think that's correct. Though it might be correct. I'm not sure. >
  
  It’s both at the same time. >
  
  Like flipping a coin >
  
  I mean, my morale is certainly improving >
  
  ""But I never thought that the leopards would eat my face!" cried the leader of the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party." >
  
  Kev sided with the coup plotters and insurrectionist. He voted not to certify Joe Biden’s win. He’s a traitor. He cannot legitimately sit as a house rep. None of the seditious traitors can. >
  
  They are, by definition, unfit to govern. >
  
  “Baby baby! The mind is willing but the body is spongy and bruised!” - That one particularly phat republican known for brandishing the Benjamins after the 9th round…probably. >
  
  I would never kink shame anyone but having your humiliation fetish publically broadcast for two days running and for all the world to see is quite the commitment. Well done, Kev. I'm sure there are dominatrixes in the Greater DC area who feel like they have to up their game now. >
  
  In any constitutional system that makes sense in the modern era (parliamentary systems), a unity government or snap election would have been declared either by now, or very soon.
  There is a reason why we didn't go around the globe setting up Presidential Republics either after WWII or in those countries we regime-changed at the start of the century. >
  
  How would we build that into our current system? >
  
  We can't.
  It would require, at minimum, an omnibus amendment to the Constitution, which would amend multiple extant Amendments and all(?) of the Articles.
  Bottom line is that the Constitution can't grapple with the politics of the current era. It is no longer a living document, as amending it has become politically impossible, and if somehow so meaningfully amended, it would cause a bought of widespread, violent civil conflict. We should have torn it up in 1861 when it failed in its one job of keeping the Union together.
  It isn't natural that a country keep a basic law for so long, and none of the Founding Fathers I'm aware of thought we would or could do so. >
  
  Yep. Therr are countries with constitutions younger than ours that have been revised multiple times, in order to keep up with changing times and values. Ours is not only a fossil, but one we're collectively choking on as a nation because we have to continually figure out ways to square it with a constantly changing world.
  You are 100% right >
  
  Thank you for saying so. You'd be surprised on how poorly "The Constitution is bad, actually," goes over at parties. >
  
  I listened to a podcast about a year or so ago that made the exact same point, though much more eloquently than I conveyed. And it's true. There are certain groups in the US that want the Constitution to remain relatively unchanged, because things like social nets, unions, living wages, etc. can't be included in it. So they push it as this pristine, shining thing that's "divinely inspired" and can't be touched too often lest it burst into flames, or dissolve into a pile of dust. 
  It's a document, and the second attempt at one, written to try to hold a fledgling country together in tumultuous times. And like you said, when it failed in 1861, it should've gone back to the drafts to be re-written yet again. That it hasn't has allowed certain groups to retain more rights than others, and wield outsized influence in the country, for centuries. It's not by accident that it's so hard to change it. >
  
  
  It's not by accident that it's so hard to change it.
  
  To be fair if you made it easy to change it would just be regular laws. >
  
  There's no better tonic to be found for making me joyous than watching Kevin McCarthy twist in the wind and be utterly humiliated by his own party.  The man is truly vile and does not deserve anything.  That the Democrats have actually banded together in solidarity and refuse to help end this GQP made mess is quite remarkable, given the past history of that party being weak at moments when it should've shown strength.  I already predict that this fiasco will be the foundation for the Democrats regaining the House in two years time. >
  
  McCarthy with 2 strikeouts on 6 pitches >
  
  That solid .000 >
  
  Vice,  you made me snortgiggle in a most unladylike fashion. >
  
  Heavens! >
  
  So really we just need like 10 or eleven Republicans to vote 'present' in protest for them to accidentally give the whole thing away? Any other group of people on earth you'd have to think couldn't possibly be so dumb....but these guys.... >
  
  Why does he not take the hint and accept he’s not wanted? >
  
  Probably because he’s “not wanted” by like 20 assholes who are just doing this to polish their resumes for a future as FOX talking heads >
  
  Yeah, all the GOP are a bunch of assholes tbh. >
  
  These are the completely expectable natural consequences when a political party (GQP) actively recruits the most antagonistic, paranoid, conspiracy minded, narcissistic members of society into their ranks… Big surprise!!! GQP cannot cooperate or trust one another, even within their own tribal in-group. 😝 >
  
  Thanks for the laugh at that title! Compliments to the headline writer! >
  
  Vote 7 should include a nomination for Cheney or Kinzinger. >
  
  He is working with a bunch of narrow minded narcissists! He deserves this! >
  
  I had CNN streaming on mute. I noticed during the 6th vote that they cut away after it 5 Republicans had voted for someone else. I don’t care how many votes they have; it will be hilarious every single time. ROTFLMAO. >
  
  My moral has improved immensely! >
  
  Actual Video of Kevin losing the 6th vote >
  
  Scalise is no improvement on McCarthy. He will hand the keys over to MTG just as cravenly as McCarthy would. >
  
  My morale has never been higher. This is owning me so much as a lib. Please don’t try again a seventh time! >
  
  This almost worth it. Can we do Lindsay Graham next? >
  
  Of course the terrifying part is that McCarthy is failing because he is seen as too soft and compliant with the mainstream political ideas. >
  
  It's certainly been improving my morale. But keep going, I wouldn't mind more. >
  
  It’s improving my morale! >
  
  What if morale improves because of his constant humiliation? >
  
  McCarthy’s overnight concessions gut the power of the office and prove he doesnt care about using the office to better the country. He just wants the title on his resume. Its pathetic. The whole thing is a glory chase. >
  
  What happens if they run out of toilet paper? 
  What if this is a super spreader event? >
  
  They were all given chatty cathy dolls and morale improved. >
  
  Please do carry on. >
  
  Don’t threaten me with a good time
  Seeing him humiliated definitely boosts my morale. >
  
  We need to be focused on the 20 insurrectionists that actually HAVE enough power to shut down all government norms. >
  
  Is it even possible to humiliate a douche? >
  
  My morale hasn't been this high in weeks. Keep flogging McRaty! >
  
  
  “I think it actually needs to be reversed,” she continued. “The president needs to tell Kevin McCarthy that sir, you do not have the votes, and it’s time to withdraw.”
  
  And then everyone clapped! No but for real, has Trump tried deploying his patented Magical Thinking here? >
  
  wine came out my nose reading this title. >
  
  I mean my morale is improving considerably with every vote >
  
  Paradox: the more he gets humiliated, the more my morale improves. >
  
  Or until the 13th when the holdouts cave because they won't be getting paid. >
  
  Odds on someone uploading the House sessions to Pornhub, under the humiliation category? >
  
  Isn’t this how the whigs dissolved?  Are we seeing the end of the GOP as we knew it? >
  
  If we are, praise God. Everyone wins. 
  Dems and left lose their major out party opposition.
  Libertarians gain ground as the major party dissolves. 
  Trumpian Republicans and modern conservatives break the Neocon GOP. 
  All groups benefit except Neocons.
  Regardlrss of political lean, a majority of Americans benefit from this. 
  The restructure would be most entertaining to watch. >
  
  The guy is a traitor. He shouldn’t even be in Congress. >
  
  When I first heard McCarthy lost the speaker vote I thought it might there were some Republicans like Liz Cheney not voting for right wing crazy. Then I found out it was because he isn't considered right wing crazy enough.
  I've got my popcorn. >
  
  Liz lost her reelection campaign. >
  
  This is all going to make for a hilarious Armando Iannucci film someday. >
  
  I just realized something: Republicans are going to blame the Democrats for obstruction of the Speaker, because they keep voting for their candidate, instead of allowing the House to do its job by making a compromise with McCarthy. >
  
  Even fox news won't be able to convince their base this is Dems fault. >
  
  I see your fox news and raise you an OANN. >
  
  So two more years at least? >
  
  I suspect the anti-McCarthy Republican representatives' morale would only improve WITH the political evisceration of McCarthy (to go along with McCarthy's political auto-castration performed at Mar-a-Lago early in 2021).
  IOW, there'll be a Speaker over the political corpse of Kevin McCarthy. >
  
  He actually LOST votes today to other candidates. Maybe something to do with their closed door caucus this morning where he told them it was HIS turn damnit. >
  
  Whining that it's his turn was the clearest way to show he doesn't DESERVE it. >
  
  Well, my morale has certainly improved, at least. >
  
  i feel like if he ever gets in, other congress wont respect him. Its like theyll know that he does not much real power over the rest of congress... and they wont even really bother negotiating with him.
  its going to be like they just slap a sticker on him and he gets to just announce nonsense things like HUNTER BIDEN stuff >
  
  Such an amazing headline. Made me laugh. >
  
  The suffering is so sweet. >
  
  Schadenfreude! >
  
  I think it would be easier for 6 Republicans to vote Jefferies, and give him the speaker gavel.  The petulant Republicans that refuse to play can then be lauded as the reason why, and congress can move forward.  If Kev is going to insist on pushing forward, then 🍿 >
  
  My morale is astronomical >
  
  Can I hope this is the Nick Fury post-credit teaser for the big showdown between the GOP and Trump's Freedom Party? >
  
  Why hasn’t McCarthy just claimed that Hunter Biden’s dick is mind-controlling the dissenters? From what I know of the current GOP, this seems like a slam dunk strategy. >
  
  What mccarthy needs to claim now is that the election was stolen and get some die-hard fans to storm the house for a peaceful protest that uses violence. Disclaimer: This is a joke. I am not calling for violence like what was seen on Jan 6th. I am merely referencing it for humor. >
  
  Dunno, my morale is pretty high right now. >
  
  How long until the GOP goes on the propaganda channels and starts saying democrats are confusing the republican voters and preventing the majority. >
  
  It’s gotta be really awkward not getting picked by your own team. >
  
  The Republicans cannot find consensus any more. Each has gone down a rabbit hole and no two rabbit holes are the same. In other words there is so much disagreement that they are now starting to metaphorically consume themselves. >
  
  Is it really Morale or is it just the insanity of what is now known as "the freedom caucus," formally the Tea Party caucus. I mean these nuts are voting for Jim Jordan instead.
  If it was moderates voting against McCarthy, who is extreme in comparison to prior GOP house speakers, I'd call it moral, but this is just the far right being completely disconnected from reality.
  They just had the poorest showing for a mid term for a party opposite a first term President in modern history. Moderates on both sides did best in swing districts, and many democrats win Republican leaning districts because of extreme right wing candidates., and the representatives aligning with all those losing candidates want to take their Party further in that direction?
  It's fucking ridiculous. >
  
  Not in 100 years have people actively watched the opening /attempted opening of Congress and nomination of speaker.  It's never been this interesting.  I'm glad that overall folks seen to be more and more engaged in politics three days compared to 10 years ago.
  I guess the orange one did something 'good' >
  
  Gretchen, stop trying to make 'fetch' happen, it's NOT going to happen! >
  
  I love how Trump issues a statement to the GOP to work together….. and everyone ignores him. #losingyourgripmuch >
  
  Look at that face. He likes it. He loves it. He’s in ecstasy. “Don’t stop mommy Boebert.” >
  
  That face.. is missing a big 
  L
  Tattoo >
  
  Keep Congress shutdown for 6 months please >
  
  *House of Representatives. The Senate can still do other things like judicial and other executive nominations >
  
  The purse strings are tied up though 
  Inflation machine is unplugged until a speaker is proclaimed.  
  Every month,  week, day, hour.   A victory. >
  
  "inflation machine" you do know this inflation is world wide right?  
  You do know that it's been central banks since 2008 pumping free money to the 1% right?  Where do you think most of Elon Musk's phantom stock money comes from? >
  
  I bet if I nominate my socks to be speaker, they would win >
  
  Tune in tomorrow at noon for round 7 of this ongoing drama...
  ...unless they got the votes to prevent adjuring again. >
  
  I'm okay with this. >
  
  Morale?? Don’t you mean morass? >
  
  Surely at this point he knows there is ZERO chance that 16 of these holdouts are going to support him.  It’s now McCarthy’s fault until he steps aside. Let someone else have a go. >
  
  Kevin.
  What will happen to you? >
  
  Karma >
  
  All politicians need to be publicly humiliated >
  
  So we had Trump, Kari Lake, now McCarthy, who’s next? >
  
  He's starting to remind me of Borris.. >
  
  I don't really like Vice, but this certainly wins headline of the day. >
  
  Great headline! >
  
  Apparently I have a humiliation fetish  because I'm enjoying this. He has wanted this for his whole congressional career and it's being dangled on a string in front of him and constantly yanked away at the last second. >
  
  Turn this into a drinking game, after every vote where McCarthy doesn’t win, take a shot. >
  
  My drinking game for tomorrow is to drink whenever they nominate McCarthy and drop a soundbite during their pathetic little speeches. Things like, "open borders", "inflation", and "Washington is broken." >
  
  L o l >
  
  I really wish Democrats could complicate the situation more and turn this into a George Michael evicting Michael from his dorm room via vote situation in Arrested Development. >
  
  That’ll teach him for kissing Trump’s saggy old ass. >
  
  Morale improves is a funny way to spell “goes to jail” >
  
  Be realistic, you only needed half of that headline. >
  
  This saga belongs in r/Kevin >
  
  The GOP get what it deserves. >
  
  My morale is through the roof >
  
  Stop, I can only get so erect >
  
  Best headline I’ve seen in recent memory 😆😆 >
  
  That's probably the best part of all this. All the headlines and commentary beginning with McCarthy and followed by words like "failure", "looks weak", "loses", and so on. >
  
  You can’t make this shit up anymore. The Beobert speech alone is …lunacy. >
  
  My morale is feeling pretty damn good, but they should keep it up, for other people >
  
  This is such an awesome thing >
  
  Please Daddy, vote against me harder. >
  
  Until morals improve there fixed it for you >
  
  Don’t threaten me with a good time >
  
  I’ve got to say, my morale is pretty high right now.
  I still think the Democrats should bring in a popcorn machine for tomorrow’s show. >
  
  I will write to my Democrat House Rep right now and ask her to vote for McCarthy but only if he agrees to wear a full leather gimp suit for his entire term >
  
  This title. *Slow Clap, Intensifies.* >
  
  Oh, I don’t know, my morale is pretty good from watching this. >
  
  The schadenfreude is strong with this one. >
  
  The Party of No is No-ing itself to death. >
  
  Empty suit, like Pence.  Whichever way the wind blows is the way he will go.  Nose in Trump's butt didn't work out for him. He's not the only GOP member that needs to go home and stay. >
  
  Karma >
  
  The Republican Party is just what they are, a joke. These people are not conservatives. They just tell you people they are conservatives. They are a bunch of conspirators and stoking nonsense to those who believe in conspiracies. All republicans want to do is block agendas and not do their jobs. >
  
  Getting to see McCarthy humiliated every day, really makes me feel good inside.🥰🥰🥰 >
  
  Six. Just six unbelievably spiteful R’s could make  a Democrat Speaker of a Republican House. >
  
  In the future I see the US defaulting on its debt because of this dysfunction. >
  
  The headline is pretty great >
  
  Republicans aren't fit to govern an outhouse >
  
  I very much enjoy being a voyer to this chit show of Kevin lol >
  
  What a loser. Literally and figuratively. >
  
  His humiliation will continue for the rest of his career. These shenanigans will continue until we start holding these “professional” politicians accountable for their shenanigans. >
  
  This is keeping the House from going about the business of governing our country and making life better for us all...oh, but they're Republicans so they wouldn't be doing any of that anyway.  Will McCarthy try for an even dozen failed votes today? >
  
  Sounds like the title to a snuff film >
  
  There are many in the current Republican Party that deserve such humiliation. McCarthy is steadfastly among them! Seems like being a spineless coward made him enemies on BOTH sides of the aisle. >
  
  “It’s Groundhog’s day,” Cammack said
  No, it’s Groundhog Day you dumb idiot. >
  
  This was a nice attempt but it doesn't really work, because said humiliation will ABSOLUTELY increase my morale. >
  
  I'll donate $5 to see someone also humiliate him physically >
  
  Sounds like Scalise is salivating for the job. >
  
  Morale? That’s the problem? 
  Get the fuck out of here with that shit. >
  
  Karma >
  
  Lol, GOOD! >
  
  We need Powdered Toast Man >
  
  Best title ever >
  
  He’s not a good man >
  
  “The beast with two backs!” >
  
  He's a living, breathing Veep character. >
  
  Love that Jeffries has beaten him every vote. >
  
  Imagine if a half-a-dozen Republicans flipped and went for Jeffries as a tantrum. >
  
  heck i don’t think he wants it either 😂 imagine trying to do anything or lead anything with this house. stupid fights all day every day >
  
  That’s the Catch-22 of the situation for Jeffries. If he miraculously becomes Speaker, his prize is trying to get anything accomplished in a Republican majority house. He’ll be excoriated by the far right in the news and used as a lightning rod for every failure…every day until he’s forced to resign. Begs the question why anyone would want to be Speaker right now lol >
  
  At the very least the house won't be endlessly trying to impeach Biden for funsies so that would be a win. >
  
  
  impeach Biden
  
  Joe? Or Hunter?
  Though if Republicans could get their act together, I'm sure they'd impeach both of them, and Major as well. >
  
  If they did impeach they would probably get his name wrong (likely forget he is "Joseph Robinet Biden JR." And just write "Brandon" >
  
  My personal morale is improving with each vote fwiw. >
  
  Shh! Don’t tell them! I want the public humiliation to continue! >
  
  "The humiliation of Kevin McCarthy" sounds like a classic piece of English literature. 
  Or at least a fun porno >
  
  “To be (speaker), Or not to be…(speaker). That is the question!” >
  
  "Alas, poor Kevin, I knew him well." >
  
  A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy, >
  
  He hath borne Trump on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! >
  
  "What are you doing, step-reps?" >
  
  Getting to see McCarthy humiliated every day, really makes me feel good inside. >
  
  I hesitate because his replacement could most likely be worse. >
  
  Just put the biggest clown up there. George Santos, MTG, Boebert. Show the GOPs true face. Nothing will get done either way >
  
  Based on MTG's comments last night, seems like there might be a few fractures in the lunatic fringe. Sporkfoot was going off about how Bobo the clown, and Matt Gaetz and Biggs met with McCarthy to demand committee chairmanships, etc, but didn't ask for anything for her. Are the Plastics breaking up? >
  
  Pretty sure the fracture started because Margarine went to McCarthy first to get promises of sweet committee positions and didn't ask for anything for the rest of them  
  Or... they're just petty, backstabbing, childish traitors >
  
  IIRC, it's the other way around, MTG got hung to dry by the other House Freedumb Cockless band >
  
  My take is that Madge Tadge Gadge cut an early deal with McCarthy where he would restore her to committees and she took it to start repairing her reputation with the mainstream GOP
  The MAGA GOP fringe stabbed her in the back over it, and now she's locked into supporting him and they see her as a traitor. 
  Problem with the far right is that no one is ideologically pure enough for them forever. They always get outflanked from the right and become RINOs marked for destruction. >
  
  Madge Tadge Gadge?
  Are you  a connoisseur of "Puzzle in a Thunderstorm" content, by any chance? >
  
  Oh is that where I picked that up??  
  edit: that was an Eli thing, wasn't it? >
  
  Almost certainly, if you are a listener. I think Eli coined it. >
  
  Will this redefine McCarthyism? >
  
  Well, it’s always sort of been a synonym for loser, so not really. >
  
  Loser ✅
  Fascist ✅
  Conspiracy enabler ✅
  Sounds like McCarthyism to me! >
  
  best quote in here by a mile.....
  "Boebert conceded that McCarthy had met the holdouts on some demands, but 
  questioned if McCarthy was the right person for the job if he hadn’t 
  suggested those reforms himself. "
  actually a god damn toddler.  Kevin is conceding,  so her new stance is 'well you made me ask for what I wanted so fuck you still'.  actually crazy highschool SO levels of logic in the GOP caucus. amazing. >
  
  Even better would be "You are conceding to me. We don't need someone in that position who is conceding to the opposition." >
  
  "I would never be a member of a club that allows someone like me to become a member!" >
  
  That’s Marxism for you >
  
  Wrong kinda Marxism >
  
  This is entertaining and all but, many conservatives are voting no on him because he's not hardlined enough for them. I can't imagine who they would want in his place. >
  
  And now he's bleeding votes because establishment is losing faith in him to effectively lead and reign in the hardliners. >
  
  His job is to whip his caucus. He can't get them to agree on who the Speaker should be. If this was a job interview, he failed. I don't blame any establishment GOP for jumping ship. >
  
  Yep, dude's been in politics for 30 years but is horribly ineffective for the job he desperately wants.  Hoping for a huge twist at the end in which Jeffries become speaker. >
  
  He rode in on the tea party wave. This obstruction he's facing, this is the shit him and others threw at boehner and Ryan lol
  This is exactly what got Kevin into congress. 
  He's just now "on the other side" lol >
  
  When you invite lunatics to your party, eventually the lunatics start asking who invited you. >
  
  That’s a hell of a quote there. >
  
  Wish I could take credit. I saw it somewhere earlier and it seemed to good to let disappear in the comments. >
  
  Republican super PAC must be freaking out to find out money can’t solve everything. They natured crazy leopards and now they are biting their faces >
  
  If for the next 2 years all the house did was try to elect a Speaker the country will be in a better place than if the GOP actually takes control. >
  
  Well, until we need to raise the debt ceiling and pass a budget in a few weeks. Other than that… probably >
  
  AFAIK the budget was already pre approved until Sept 2023. >
  
  Budget bill didn't raise the debt ceiling >
  
  6th vote finished. Here's how the votes have counted thus far:
  |     | Banks | Biggs | Donalds | Jeffries | Jordan | McCarthy | Zeldin | Others | Present |
  |:----|:-----:|:-----:|:-------:|:--------:|:------:|:--------:|:------:|:------:|:-------:|
  | 1st |   1   |  10   |    1    |   212    |    6   |   203    |   1    |   0    |    0    |
  | 2nd |   0   |   0   |    0    |   212    |   19   |   202    |   0    |   0    |    0    |
  | 3rd |   0   |   0   |    0    |   212    |   20   |   202    |   0    |   0    |    0    |
  | 4th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    |
  | 5th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    |
  | 6th |   0   |   0   |   20    |   212    |    0   |   201    |   0    |   0    |    1    | >
  
  In theory, if any six Representatives vote "Present", Jeffries wins. Even if he wins at 206, right?
  Could the Democrats just force it? >
  
  There are 434 reps, so you need 218 to win.  If 6 vote present then you need 215 to win.
  McCarthy is getting 201 votes, so the Dems would need 202 votes to win.  Right now they are only getting 212 for Jeffries. That means they can afford to lose 10 votes.
  If 10 democrats vote present that would just mean that they would need 212 votes to win. And they won't have that if 10 of their votes go away. The only way for the math to work out is for 10 republicans to vote present.  
  And since that would have the same effect as making the democrats win, they won't do it. If they wanted that they would have already voted for Jeffries or voted present. >
  
  If only there was a German word for expressing delight at other's misfortune! >
  
  schadenfreude’s cat >
  
  I don't think that's correct. Though it might be correct. I'm not sure. >
  
  It’s both at the same time. >
  
  Like flipping a coin >
  
  I mean, my morale is certainly improving >
  
  ""But I never thought that the leopards would eat my face!" cried the leader of the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party." >
  
  Kev sided with the coup plotters and insurrectionist. He voted not to certify Joe Biden’s win. He’s a traitor. He cannot legitimately sit as a house rep. None of the seditious traitors can. >
  
  They are, by definition, unfit to govern. >
  
  “Baby baby! The mind is willing but the body is spongy and bruised!” - That one particularly phat republican known for brandishing the Benjamins after the 9th round…probably. >
  
  I would never kink shame anyone but having your humiliation fetish publically broadcast for two days running and for all the world to see is quite the commitment. Well done, Kev. I'm sure there are dominatrixes in the Greater DC area who feel like they have to up their game now. >
  
  In any constitutional system that makes sense in the modern era (parliamentary systems), a unity government or snap election would have been declared either by now, or very soon.
  There is a reason why we didn't go around the globe setting up Presidential Republics either after WWII or in those countries we regime-changed at the start of the century. >
  
  How would we build that into our current system? >
  
  We can't.
  It would require, at minimum, an omnibus amendment to the Constitution, which would amend multiple extant Amendments and all(?) of the Articles.
  Bottom line is that the Constitution can't grapple with the politics of the current era. It is no longer a living document, as amending it has become politically impossible, and if somehow so meaningfully amended, it would cause a bought of widespread, violent civil conflict. We should have torn it up in 1861 when it failed in its one job of keeping the Union together.
  It isn't natural that a country keep a basic law for so long, and none of the Founding Fathers I'm aware of thought we would or could do so. >
  
  Yep. Therr are countries with constitutions younger than ours that have been revised multiple times, in order to keep up with changing times and values. Ours is not only a fossil, but one we're collectively choking on as a nation because we have to continually figure out ways to square it with a constantly changing world.
  You are 100% right