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  Where did you pull that 450 million figure from your ass because last time I checked there were only around 100 million Telugu speaker, which including second language speaker.
context: Those two countries (China and India) make up 35% of the entire planet's population.  That's crazy. >
  
  And 70% of downtown Toronto! >
  
  There's a lot of Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh in that. >
  
  Nah man, there is only Chinese and Indian.  If you are Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Pilipino, Thai, you are all Chinese.  If you are Sri Lankan, Pakistani, Bangladeshis, then you are all Indian. >
  
  Taiwanese are actually really chinese ethnically, same language, same culture, etc >
  
  Bro seriously? >
  
  He’s right, but the Taiwanese don’t like being associated with the communists up north, to such an extreme degree that they don’t consider themselves Chinese.
  Even though that’s not true at all, period.
  Cultural difference is about on the same level as Russia and Ukraine, which is to say… not too different.
  Only significant difference is in political philosophy. >
  
  Isn't there a small subsection of their population that are actually indigenous Taiwanese that aren't the same folks that ran from the mainland? >
  
  Yes, indigenous taiwanese are different >
  
  And India is like 1/3rd the size of China! >
  
  A lot of China is fairly uninhabitable though. You’ve got the Tibetan plateau in the southwest, the taklamakan desert in the west and the Gobi desert in the north. 
  Roughly 80% of their population lives in an area just a bit larger than India. >
  
  That sounds really crowded! 
  I remember in the civilization games, if your cities were too crowded, your people would become enraged. 
  "It's too crowded!" "There's not enough ROOM!" 
  It was pretty funny. Even had little angry faces for angry population. >
  
  South Asia is definitely still the worst in that regard. The densest populated state in America, NJ, has a density of 488km2. 
  Bangladesh has a density of 1328km2. >
  
  It's funny how Bangladesh has more people than Russia and Russia is like 50 times bigger, if not more. >
  
  Russia is 114 times the size of Bangladesh, and has 26 million less people >
  
  I was going to say 100, but was insecure due to mercator and changed it to 50 lmao.
  Thank you though, I was hoping someone would point out the actual number. >
  
  Glad to see someone aware of map distortion. The Mercator projection is fantastic for direction, terrible for comparing area. >
  
  I remember when I was a kid looking at Greenland and being baffled at the size of the thing only to be disappointed when looking at a globe for the first time lmao. >
  
  I had no idea this was even coming. Wow. >
  
  It was confirmed last year with the UN as soon as they found a target date for humanity surpassing the 8 billion mark (Nov 15, 2022). >
  
  They say population will "even out" around 10 billion.  Even if that is true that is 25% increase from here.
  You think food is a lot now?
  You think housing is a lot now?
  Not to mention we know places like India with higher populations and climate changes are going to be even more dystopian than they are now.
  We have changed so much of our landscapes into crop production.
  We have destroyed almost all the biodiversity on this earth.
  Hopefully we can learn this lesson and limit the insane downspiral of quality of life and affordability of life that is going to come in the next few decades or else we are going to see more insane rises of political extremism and other social shit from sheer alienation, frustration, of huge segments of the population.
  We need to get ahead of this shit.  
  Just like we should have gotten ahead of world populations and climate change. >
  
  doomer posting, people grow food, people build houses. >
  
  World population could fit in Texas >
  
  Well, at an insanely high density >
  
  For some reason, I was under the impression they already had >
  
  I've seen some articles speculating that China has been overestimating their population numbers for years, and that India likely surpassed them some time ago. No idea how credible that line of reasoning is though. >
  
  There surely has to be an algorithm for Communist exaggeration by now. I swear every time I watch a documentary on the Soviets I hear something else that makes me say, "Really? They fudged the numbers on that?" >
  
  OH YEAH?!! invades Taiwan >
  
  *Proceeds to cost more lives than are gained. >
  
  Even if they capture it without firing a single shot, they. Are. Fucked. Still the biggest importers of food and energy and now they're dealing with the pandemic, with vaccines that don't work and a population that's been locked up for 3 years and has built up no immunity. >
  
  Is that you Peter Zeihan? >
  
  Zeihan is blowing up lately. Found a keynote of his on YouTube at a Iowa agricultural convention a couple months back and next thing I know he's on Rogan scaring the shit out of people. >
  
  When will we see the slow down of India's population and reproduction rates, like in China? >
  
  India is now below replacement levels for births. It's only Africa that is above replacement level.
  From the Wall Street Journal: 
  
  India has long been a byword for overpopulation, but this is about to change. According to a new national survey, India’s total fertility rate, the average number of children a woman will bear during her lifetime, has fallen to 2—below the replacement level of 2.1 for the first time. >
  
  Excellent >
  
  It's all about economic development and giving women the tools and agency to control pregnancy >
  
  Congrats? >
  
  Yeah, this is the only thing that China doesn't want to be number 1 in. >
  
  Not as concerning as people might think. Despite the high population India's demographic breakdown is much more favorable than China's (who lost a lot of prime working age people due to the one child policy and is now having trouble sustaining a rapidly aging population). India is on track to stabilize population growth by 2050. >
  
  Thank you for being informed and not shitting out a knee jerk comment like “aw man, people over there should stop having kids! The world is overpopulated and we’re all gonna die.” >
  
  Just what India needs, more people. >
  
  No kidding.  India is dystopian as fuck.  
  Higher and higher populations may mean growth for the richest of the rich but it means absolute horrid affordability and quality of life for almost everyone else.
  When people say "Oh the world population will start evening out around 10 billion" even if you believe that it is 25% more people on the earth than right now.
  You think food costs a lot now?
  You think housing costs a lot now?
  We need to reward people for not having children or only having one.  Monetary and socially reward them big time because this is going to sink us all.
  It's already transformed so much varying landscapes for crops and nearly wiped out all the biodiversity on the planet.
  We are next.  People don't realize how bad it is. >
  
  
  India is dystopian as fuck
  
  Said the westerner in his utopia. >
  
  And India will be one of the countries that is going to suffer massively with climate change. They may be the most populous now, but in the next 20 years, I dunno. >
  
  Heat stroke is no fun. I’ve had it and it literally feels like you’re shutting down but slowly. You reach a point where you’re covered in sweat but stop feeling hot (actually you stop feeling anything really). I had goosebumps like I was cold but I knew I was hot. I was dizzy and vomiting and numb until I just fainted. Luckily my friend was able to put ice around my body to bring my core temp down. Went to the hospital after and they said I suffered a mild heat stroke. >
  
  Hey y'all, we prob need to stop having babies >
  
  no, india and china need to stop having babies. >
  
  They already have
  The Chinese are below replacement levels and face a serious demographic crisis in the next 40 years, and the Indians are fast approaching replacement levels too. 
  It’s really just Africa that is driving human population growth. The likes of Mali and DR Congo are each having more than 5 kids per woman >
  
  The reality is the quickest way to get people to stop having babies is having the country modernize.
  Education, healthcare, and food stability causes birth rates to plummet. People have a lot of children when they think many of the kids will die to hunger or disease, especially in countries where they need those kids to work ASAP just to survive. >
  
  Yep, and it’s also partly a monetary/lifestyle thing 
  If you’re well off, your investments are your finances 
  If you have no finances, your investments are your offspring, so they can help out and look after you 
  It doesn’t pay for people in abject poverty not to have lots of kids the way it does for an average person from the US or Europe. >
  
  Don't forget sex education and access to prophylactics or birth control methods... >
  
  India Fucks! >
  
  Actually birth rates have been declining consistently since the 1960s and are currently near replacement levels. Any growth is carried by the sheer population momentum. >
  
  Do they have anything similar to China's one child policy. >
  
  To add to this. My friend lives on Delhi, he had once posted a screenshot of a delivery app listing their stats. Condoms were the most ordered item, even more than rice. >
  
  For perspective; United States population is equivalent to 4.3% of the total world population. >
  
  If both india and China lost a billion ppl each, the US would still be the 3rd most populous country >
  
  There is trash everywhere in India. People just throw it on the ground and it piles up. Then once and while someone lights the pile on fire. You can smell burning plastics and rubber all the time.
  People keep on buying more cars and bikes, the have no traffic lights or stop signs, they just honk their horns. You will walk along and someone comes up behind you and honks their horn!
  Middle class is growing. Everywhere is crowded.  India seems to have no plan for the future. >
  
  China is basically the same.
  Edit: I'm talking about the trash thing. No Westerner can go to China and walk away thinking it's a clean and sanitary place. Downvotes don't change reality. >
  
  China varies greatly depends on the place. Is it as nice and clean as Japan? Hell no, but I think tier 1 cities like Shanghai and Beijing are very much comparable to places like New York or Chicago. 
  You sure as hell won’t be seeing trash piles burning in any of these cities.
  Hell Shanghai is probably cleaner than SF these days. 
  When you go into the much smaller cities or the country side, then all bets are off. >
  
  shanghai is much cleaner than nyc these days.  nyc is just generally not a very clean city. >
  
  Bharat was already number one considering Pakistan and Bangladesh were carved out of it. >
  
  I don’t need India to win, I just need China to lose >
  
  thats a curse in most instances >
  
  A lot of these comments are taking their western view and applying it to countries where it doesn’t make sense.
  India does not have an aging population. It is primarily a young population. It literally continues to benefit them to have kids.
  Yes they will have problems down the line. But why would they care? If they give up the birth rate now, they lose their progress trajectory.
  Basically every single sector of India is growing and rapidly. Government policy has finally started hitting corruption and middlemen in agriculture and the rise of industrial and corporate farming is likely going to provide more food than ever in the next decade or two.
  They literally have incentives to increase birth rates at this point >
  
  India is now below replacement levels for births. It's only Africa that is above replacement level.
  From the Wall Street Journal: 
  
  India has long been a byword for overpopulation, but this is about to change. According to a new national survey, India’s total fertility rate, the average number of children a woman will bear during her lifetime, has fallen to 2—below the replacement level of 2.1 for the first time. >
  
  This isn't a good thing. There's too many damn people. >
  
  India is now below replacement levels for births. It's only Africa that is above replacement level.
  From the Wall Street Journal: 
  
  India has long been a byword for overpopulation, but this is about to change. According to a new national survey, India’s total fertility rate, the average number of children a woman will bear during her lifetime, has fallen to 2—below the replacement level of 2.1 for the first time. >
  
  Are you commenting this on every comment? >
  
  This really scares me, b/c global warming does not care about how cute kids are. >
  
  Good luck getting india to give a fuck about that.
  No one’s trading their only chance at progress for a long term future theyre not at fault for.
  As high as indias current emissions are they account for less than 3% of total human emissions over time. America is over 1/3 by itself.
  Developed countries need to do their part and help out. They caused the problem it’s on em to solve it. They have the means considering they profited off of it for centuries >
  
  indias is actually a lot lot higher but its just not officially recorded >
  
  Source? >
  
  Dear earth population, please use birth control. There are too many of us around right now >
  
  Will there be a livestream of the transition? I’d like to dial-in. >
  
  Damn, India be fucking. >
  
  In the US, Telugu is the language with the largest increase in speakers. In India there are around 81 million native speakers and it’s pretty much only spoken in 2 states. Crazy numbers