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context: I mean of all the things to happen.  Jesus.  Obviously Biden’s situation and response are not remotely the same to Trump’s, but the media, especially right wing media, is going to be talking this up constantly, and the right wing false equivalency machine will be working overtime.  Incredibly bad luck and timing for those of us wanting to see Trump held to account for his crimes >
  
  It's "but her emails" all over again. Yes, both sides did it, but the details and reactions matter. That's the difference. That is what really matters.
  Anyone who doesn't bother with that is either lazy, stupid or a criminal. Or all three. >
  
  Complexity and nuance are not allowed in the outrage machine. >
  
  The sad thing is that it isn't even subtle.
  It's like a person accidentally side swiping someone with a car and taking that person to the hospital and willing to pay the bills and some else hitting someone with a car, running them over a few times, driving off laughing and sueing the victim because they damaged the car.... >
  
  If conservatives were good at comparing and contrasting they wouldn't be conservatives. >
  
  I actually think this is good for Democrats. It contrasts the difference in cooperation between Democrats and Republicans. I rather see this battle than more obscure ones like Hunter Biden's D'pics. >
  
  It only means anything to dems.  The right wing doesn't contracts anything they use the hammer approach. >
  
  The difference in 3 words, obstruction of justice.  Having the files is a slap on the wrist. Not cooperating so that you have to be raided? That is an entirely different  matter.  Even worse would be if the information in them was divulged or sold. >
  
  This!! 
  Trump having documents isn't the scandal. Had Trump returned the documents it never would have made the news. The scandal is that Trump lied to authorities after being served by subpoena and refused to follow the law. >
  
  Right!?!? The Biden documents were found by his people and immediately reported and returned. >
  
  Good thing biden himself found the documents and returned them.  Can you imagine if it was his attorneys who had found classified documents in an unclassified area and turned them in.
  Who cares about this whole matter. It's just another way to pin the American people against each other.  Both sides are corrupt and both sides need to be replaced >
  
  
  Good thing biden himself found the documents and returned them. Can you imagine if it was his attorneys who had found classified documents in an unclassified area and turned them in.
  
  Are you being facetious?  Because Biden didn't find the documents, his personal lawyers did, and Biden wasn't even aware of the documents being found until after his staff had contacted NARA and arranged for them to be returned.  Personally, I think that detail can only help Biden as it's further indication of this being a mistake that just wasn't noticed until years later.  However, when the other side will twist or outright lie, it's important to be accurate and consistent with the facts. >
  
  They both need to be investigated and appropriately handled and if need be, held accountable.
  See, when you're not a far right extremist you don't have to hold a wild 1984 type doublethink view that it wasn't a big deal for Trump to do it but it's a huge deal Biden did it.
  When you exist basically making appeal to hypocrisy fallacy arguments about everything, it gets complicated like that. >
  
  So disgusting how the media is bending over backwards to set up this false equivalency. Why nuance when you can both-sides-horserace? >
  
  Listen, mistakes were clearly made in the Biden camp, and the full story has yet to be known.
  We know Trump literally stole national secrets and kept them in insecure locations where foreign agents have been caught operating multiple times. 
  Yet, I agree, the media will both sides this to shit and Trump will almost certainty use it to muddy the waters to avoid punishment for his clear and open criminal behavior. 
  Fuck. >
  
  I agree that there is much much more Trump is and should be culpable for, but the classified documents thing was so far beyond the pale that I actually let myself believe he may face some level of justice for it.
  Now I feel I couldn’t be more wrong. >
  
  
  Justice Department and FBI visited Mar-a-Lago to get more information about classified materials taken to Florida. Federal officials also served a subpoena for some documents believed to be at the estate.
  In August 2022, FBI agents conducting a search retrieved 33 boxes from Mar-a-Lago. The search came after lawyers for Trump provided a sworn certification that all government records had been returned.
  The former president possibly faces exposure for obstruction over the protracted battle to retrieve the documents themselves. And, since he’s no longer in office, he wouldn’t be afforded protections from possible prosecution that would apply to a sitting president. >
  
  The GOP hopes there are more Hunter Biden dick pics within these classified documents. >
  
  Sadly, if you're explaining, you're losing >
  
  Now, now. We can’t have folks engaging in critical thinking. >
  
  Scenario:  I leave a store without paying for two items.  Say, cashier forgot about it or my kid stashed one in his pocket. 
  Option A: Return to the store, give them the items and say when it happened, be prepared to pay for the items if needed (damaged, etc).  Cooperate with loss prevention.
  Option B: I bring the items home, hid them away, and if contacted by loss prevention tell them they're wrong.  Then when they press I reluctantly return one of the items, assuring them that was it.  Then when pressed again, I re-assure them under oath that I have nothing.  Then they provide video evidence to the local police and they show up with a warrant. 
  Anyone with half a brain knows that these two options are completely different in the eye of the law and the consequences would (well, SHOULD) not be the same for both of them.  A would probably be a small fee or just a warning.  B would potentially be jail time. >
  
  Exactly!! >
  
  "Impeach Biden over stolen classified documents" currently on Gymmy Jordan's whiteboard. >
  
  Dude, trump stole nuclear top secret stuff that wasn’t supposed to viewed outside of a SCIF! This document was nowhere near the same level, and also, was from OBAMA’s administration. They reported it promptly as required, and it was handled. >
  
  Criminal intent is the difference. Trump should be imprisoned; Biden should be given a slap on the wrist. >
  
  Trump lied to authorities and refused to return documents identified to him by the national archives. That is what Trump is being investigated for. Merely having documents isn't a crime. >
  
  Dude, trump stole nuclear top secret stuff that wasn’t supposed to viewed outside of a SCIF! This document was nowhere near the same level, and also, was from OBAMA’s administration. They reported it promptly as required, and it was handled. >
  
  Apples and oranges there’s no comparison >
  
  It's like comparing someone who runs a red to someone who robs a bank, takes hostages and shoots the teller >
  
  Does this take into account the 2nd batch of Biden's classified documents they found at another location 😂. >
  
  The hypocrisy is delicious >
  
  I know this is immoral, but the Biden team should have burned the docs and kept their mouth's shut. This whole thing downplays the serious criminal implications of Trump hoarding classified doc. Worse of all, now that this is out and about, there will be nothing done to Trump, but a house investigation into the few docs found at Biden's office. >
  
  I disagree. Trump having documents isn't the scandal in his situation. Trump lied to authorities after being served by a subpoena and refused to abide by the law and return the documents. It is the acts of obstruction that are under scrutiny. >
  
  True, but few will see it like that. >
  
  Those who dislike Biden see everything he does as terrible. So it really doesn't matter. >
  
  Lol it’s hilarious how both situations are identical, both had unsecured classified document, yet the way you guys react to either is like night and day. I hope one day you all can learn to be impartial. It’s just getting embarrassing at this point. >
  
  The Crime Tump is accused of are lying to authorities and obstructing the retrieval of the documents. 
  Had Trump return the documents when subpoenaed this never would have been a story. >
  
  Jesus Christ you might just believe this…Trump was literally complying with everything and had handed over all he thought there was. Literally case closed. Had some left over. It’s Trump. They raid his house looking for more. Oh what do they find?!?!? The exact same thing that they just found at Biden’s house….the only difference as you say is Trump didn’t comply…which he did…Man I can’t with you guys. Hive mind and just ignoring reality. You all can’t even begin to acknowledge that biden had unsecured classified documents and it’s pathetic. It’s just always “this is different”. >
  
  You’re whole argument relies on Trump willfully withholding documents, to which you have no proof. It’s the same thing as Biden. Y’all just tapped. >
  
  The proof is that Trump was served a subpoena. The subpoena listed the documents authorities wanted. 
  Are you claiming that never happened?