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  Is there a Rachel’s list for Necrophiliacs?
context: At my sister's university they had to sign body parts out because students were using them for pranks.
  Imagine waking up after a heavy night, rolling over to see half a head looking back at you. >
  
  Why even allow them to be signed out? I'd think the cadavers should remain within the cadaver lab. If you need to work with one of them, you go there. You don't take it home. >
  
  At my university you could only check out bones. Everything else stayed in the lab. >
  
  Went to college for Mortuary  Science (Didn't graduate...ugly divorce) 
  It s DRILLED into you REPEATEDLY that you treat the deceased as if they were a living sentient being and to treat them with respect.
  I hope these clowns get smacked hard for this. >
  
  I received my clinical degree from Pitt. These two definitely knew better, especially since it was sexual abuse of a corpse. >
  
  There’s other types of abuse of a corpse? >
  
  Yes? Think about it. 
  You could stab a corpse. 
  You could sexually do things with it. 
  You could draw on it with sharpie. 
  All 3 are different, but still abuse. >
  
  "Why'd you draw that mustache on Mark?" 
  "He fell asleep first, those are the rules, right?"
  edit: I mean this in the most lighthearted way possible. Desecration of a corpse is beyond fucked and I hope these two get their karma tenfold. >
  
  Yupp. Its fucked. But also my friends have permission to do this to me. >
  
  Consent! Consent! Consent! 
  You can't consent if you're dead! >
  
  You can consent prior to dying, that's what a will is for.
  My wife wants to be cannibalized when she dies, but unfortunately there's no legal way to consent to be eaten. >
  
  
  unfortunately there's no legal way to consent to be eaten.
  
  What about that guy who cooked his own foot? >
  
  Michael Scott? >
  
  I'm all for dark humor, but fondling dead people isn't that funny....
  
  The Post-Gazette says, "Witnesses observed (one) making sexual remarks about a male corpse and placing a hand inside its chest, while (the other) was seen inappropriately touching a female corpse, smirking and commenting, according to complaints against the students. Both told Pitt police they had learned in class about treating cadavers with respect, a detective wrote." >
  
  This happens more often than people think. I once dated a woman who was in such a class. One of the classmates grabbed a severed leg off the table and started limping around the room with it. That kid got tossed once the word got out. >
  
  My ex's friend was a doctor. I think he said he took a picture of a woman's breasts while she was under anesthesia. Fucking horrifying >
  
  Also, aren’t there nurses, a surgeon, and an anesthesiologist in the room while someone is undergoing surgery? What were they all doing while he was sexually assaulting an unconscious woman? >
  
  Not too long ago an anesthesiologist was arrested for orally raping women undergoing c sections…scumbags don’t care >
  
  What? C sections  are usually not under general anesthesia so hope would that even happen? >
  
  Yes I understand. I guess the reason I am confused is the patient is normally conscious and has other people in the room. That’s so fucked. Seems like they were sedated and didn’t have a support person with them. >
  
  Makes sense that a predator would prey on someone in a vulnerable position. >
  
  Seems like a good way to curse yourself. >
  
  Seems like a good way to riddle yourself with a crippling amount of medical school debt, but then be barred from being a doctor so you can't earn your way out of that debt.
  That sounds like a curse to me! >
  
  I am amazed you found that story.  I’m also surprised that the coverup was successful and all students were protected. >
  
  i’m glad I saw this article, my dad told me about this happening when he was in college. >
  
  Mind-boggling. >
  
  Respect should be the standard. People donated their bodies for research and not to have the corpse abused. >
  
  Respect for cadavers in educational settings is absolutely the standard. When I was in medical school our anatomy professors made it absolutely, 100% clear that doing this kind of stupid stuff with the remains of people who had generously left their bodies for the education of future medical professionals would be treated as a gross violation of professionalism and could result in expulsion. I never saw or heard of anyone doing anything inappropriate. 
  That said, there were definitely a couple of people in my med school class who were “book smart” but had gone straight to med school from undergrad  and were really immature. If there were two of them in the same group I could see egging each other on to the point where they did something moronic. >
  
  In university, at the start of each year the medical school put on a memorial ceremony in honor of the people who donated their bodies that would be used to teach medical students each year. My friends in the medical school were required to attend. No "joking around" was ever acceptable. This was in the UK, so incoming medical students could be as young as 18 years old.
  I took part in a course where we only saw and dissected brains. We were still told this first to be thankful for the person who donated their body to science and provided us the privilege of learning. >
  
  Wait so you can get into med school straight from highschool in the UK without doing undergrad? Does it take longer to graduate in that case? >
  
  Per the British Medical Association guidance on becoming a doctor:
  
  The first step for anyone wanting to pursue a career as a doctor is to study medicine at undergraduate level or via a graduate medical course. Normally this will take four to six years of study.
  Following graduation from medical school, students progress onto postgraduate training, via the foundation programme and higher specialist training. During this time they are known as junior doctors. >
  
  So, it sounds roughly the same as what a pre-med undergrad major in the US might be? They just have it all together at the same school basically? Post grad medical school in the US is typically two years of classes followed by two years of internship/work experience, so that would line up. >
  
  I haven't attended either, although I did do the pre-med track in the US and work closely with medical providers now. The UK considers its final year or so of high school (sixth form) more like the first year of university in the US. The GCSE requirements could be considered to be like doing the pre-med set of science courses. I learned this when I was trying to see if my AP credits could be used to cover the first year of an undergraduate science program.
  This also doesn't really cover how residency works. That's 3-5 years (depending on program and specialty) of working in hospitals, which is more akin to what junior doctors do. The last 2 years of American medical school still has a fair amount of coursework, with patient contact being highly supervised. (Note: this is my observation based on the medical programs I work adjacent to, but it's relatively standard.)
  Additionally, I didn't copy in the information on postgraduate medical work in the UK that the linked article continues with. For American medical schools, graduates have an MD. For UK doctors, they can do subsequent postgraduate work to receive an MD, but they don't come out of medical school with one.
  So the answer is... different countries with different setups. Generally end up with similar skillsets. And it's a pain to get licensed to practice medicine in another country if you move internationally. >
  
  Okay, I see. Thanks for the explanation! I have not gone to medical school either, I have one sister-in-law who's a doctor and another who's in med school now so I tangentially know things but certainly not the details haha. Appreciate the info! >
  
  All of you commenting on how cadavers are treated during medical education and not seeing much problem with this need to understand that the fact that there even are cadavers to dissect for educational purposes requires a living individual deciding “I am going to donate my body when I die so that some aspiring doctors can use it to learn about the human body”. If there is not a guarantee that the cadavers will be treated respectfully, there are not going to be donated cadavers. >
  
  This is it. I made the decision many years ago to donate my body to science once I’m gone. I don’t care what a medical school does with my corpse; at that point it’s no longer my business. But I’m also donating on the good faith assumption that nobody will be sticking their fingers up inside my dead cooter for a laugh. >
  
  These people downvoting you like this doesn’t actually happen. Necrophilia is a thing y’all - they even have an official fancy Latin/Greek name for it. >
  
  
  they even have an official fancy Latin/Greek name for it.
  
  Is it "necrophilia"? >
  
  That’s it - that’s the word!!! How did you know?! 🤣 >
  
  Oh, I'm a clever little fucker, you've got to give me that. >
  
  My grandmother donated her body for this kind of stuff.  I'd be livid if I found out that some shithead was violating her corpse. Jesus Christ. >
  
  This ought to be grounds for a one-way ticket out of med school. No one needs doctors like these. >
  
  The sad thing is they aren’t in med school. They were given access to cadavers as immature 19 yo undergrads. >
  
  So? You start learning anatomy in college if you are on a medical track. These are adults. >
  
  I still would not donate my body to an undergrad program knowing the degree of immaturity at that age. >
  
  That's your call. It's your body, your choice. >
  
  To all the people saying they wouldn't mind if it were your body - that may be true, but would you feel the same if it were your loved one's body? Your child, or parent, or spouse? >
  
  They’ll do just fine in finance. >
  
  Don't stoop down to their level by saying shit like this. >
  
  That is rich! Two medical careers over - Beavis and Butthead. >
  
  I really hope they are over but I doubt it unfortunately, shit has a habit of rising to the top >
  
  I am in a medical program at my school, and we were told that if we were caught doing anything inappropriate to cadavers, we would be kicked from the program and banned from reapplying.
  I took the class last year, so I don't remember if that applies to other school for sure, but I vaguely think they said it might. >
  
  My mom went to med school in the seventies and one of her classmates was kicked out of the program for pretending to jump-rope with a cadaver’s intestines for some laughs. Think most schools likely have this kind of rule in place. >
  
  Wow. When my sister went to become a nurse a student posted selfies with the cadavers online and she got kicked out. >
  
  They'd better call Saul >
  
  Oh to be 19 again >
  
  Let me tell ya, the juices are flowing, the red corpuscles are corpuscle'ing, the grass is green and it's soft, and summer's gonna last forever. >
  
  I prosected and TA’d A&P for a couple years. No one ever behaved untoward with my cadavers. I did get in trouble for eating lunch with them once (as apparently it’s not very kosher to eat Ruebens with corpses).
  One related interesting tidbit though! Never use public laundromats near med-schools! All of our rags soaked with liquids human fat got laundered there, which is kinda super gross when you think about it… good times lol >
  
  
  I prosected and TA’d A&P for a couple years
  
  My dude, do you realize you're talking to human being you don't know and who might not be familiar with all of your very specific slang and abbreviations? I mean, it's OK if you do realize and don't want to bother, but it also means a lot of people won't understand what you're saying. >
  
  Ok, “TA” typically refers to “Teaching Assistant”, and that is a super common acronym at the uni (and, arguably, the HS) level. “A&P”, with the added context of this article, I think pretty clearly refers to “Anatomy and Physiology”. I don’t think these abbreviations are particularly esoteric. Lmao (no hate, I just don’t think that was call out worthy) >
  
  Thank you. "Prosected" is also not a common word. >
  
  This shit is why people recoil from donating their bodies for medical study.  The students should be tossed out and made an example of.  Don't be fucking with bodies that contained souls that were loved.  POS.  Utter disrespect and if I had the names, I would absolutely NOT ever engage that arsehole for my or any of my very extended family.  In fact, if I had your names, I would make a concerted effort to ruin you before you ever had the opportunity to touch anyone's body.  Their mental capacity has shown itself. >
  
  My mother went to med school in the 1970's.  Things she was told in anatomy lab:
  No removing body parts from the lab
  No throwing fat
  No playing jump rope with intestines >
  
  Ew. These are two sick individuals. Anyone who can find a reason for this to be okay is also sick. >
  
  I care about this story as it is a violation against the terms and expectations that people make when donating their bodies or those of their loved ones. 
  I couldn't care less about how they'll use my own body though. >
  
  Weekend at Bernie's: The Early Years >
  
  Herbert West: present day. >
  
  Universities when a student is raped: Let's handle this in-house
  Universities when a student disrespects a corpse: Call the police and file criminal charges >
  
  A corpse needs a signed release before any part of it can be used to help a person. A fully alive and conscious woman may be forced to give up her body against her will to keep alive a fetus that may kill her (depending on state laws). 
  So it’s not really much of a stray from the current norm. The dead are offered more protections than a living fertile woman. >
  
  I had a classmate who got in trouble for something like this. He was also 19 when admitted, generally immature, and significantly harmed at least one patient during surgery due to nonchalance (no idea why he bragged about it). Had a great premed GPA and MCAT score though. >
  
  That cadavor was someones child,spouse,grandparent. Its henious >
  
  There is something seriously wrong with these two students. Sickening. >
  
  Is it racist if we don’t eat this guy? >
  
  Well it is NOW! >
  
  Yeah they shouldn't be doctors.