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  It's all perspectives, in my country spending time with ur loved ones is considered very valuable and cherished, we spend a lot of our lives with the our family, generational homes are very common, "having freedom" as u put it isn't high on the list as most people life for others.
  Some people like being surrounded by family.
context: My parents started kicking me out around 12. Then would threaten to call the cops on my friends parents (who took me in and did right by me) if they didn't return me.
  Every 3-6 months it would happen again. Rinse and repeat.
  I promised my son that I would never do that to him. He's always got a room with me no matter how old he is, bc life is hard and throws curve balls that we don't expect.
  I've got a laundry list of things my parents did that I'll never do to my kids.
  Edit:
  Shoutout to Mr & Mrs H(R.I.P.), Mr & Mrs P, Ms. C and Ms. B for stepping up and being great people and teaching me what true kindness is. I'll never forget it.
  Thank you every one for your well wishes. Those who endured horrible childhood's like mine or worse, my hearts with you and I hope you're doing better. 
  Please, everyone, hug your kids and just love them. >
  
  Hey, I am sorry that happened to you, nobody deserves shit like that. >
  
  Thank you. That's just been my life. A roller coaster of fucked up situations. 
  I really need to talk to the developer and request "easy mode". 😂
  Hoping my dreams will come true soon. 🤞 >
  
  Seeing as real life is a soulsike, I don't think we'll ever get the easy mode. >
  
  Real life is a ?  Is that a typo? >
  
  Soulslike as in games like Dark Souls and similar ones. Games that are infamous for being pretty difficult without any difficulty settings. >
  
  I can't necessarily reset this one 
  I forgot to go to the save point 😂 >
  
  It happened to my wife.  When she graduated from high school they sent her on a trip to Hawaii, and when she came home all of her stuff was boxed up.  It baffles me how anyone could do that to their children >
  
  This seems like a very American thing. I just don't hear this happening in Europe. I put this down as a lack of community problem. You would be shamed in Europe if you treated your children this way. >
  
  I can't speak for all of europe but here in Finland is normal to leave home at 18. Parent's don't kick you out as aggressively because mostly since it's expected from you to leave, and kids do want to leave and live freely they move out for uni/school/military service after highschool without a lot of encouragement. I have known of cases where parents gift a frying pan or something for your new home when you turn 18 as a cue to go. Some people will maybe stay until 19 or 21 if the situation with the parents is good and everyone is ok, but mostly kids do want privacy. Also have to say that the government helps you pay part of the rent if you're a student (besides the student grants) so if you have a part time job or take a study loan you'll be fine if you live in a cheap place or with roomates. >
  
  I always found this interesting about Finland when I lived there. It's important to note however that Finland has incredible social safety nets and support available, so it's not the crisis it would be for say an American kid sent out on their own >
  
  Exactly. The worst that can happen is you will be poor and have to eat tuna and instant noodles and share an apartment with other 2 people. >
  
  Which is the standard in the us >
  
  at 18 people are still in high school and mostly don't have jobs, wtf >
  
  Yeah Aussie here born in 2004 and majority of people I know including me had jobs at around 14 years old. Usually 3-4 nights a week after school. >
  
  That's fucked up. Kids shouldn't have jobs >
  
  Kids should remain at home but it's not too bad for a kid to save up a little bit (provided that they're at least 16). So long as the job has reasonable hours and it's not affecting your studies >
  
  Why provided that they're 16? Why is that your arbitrary cut-off? >
  
  I’ve told my kids that as much as possible, I want them equipped to move out when they want to, but that they’re welcome to stay with us as long as they want. That the only way I will ever kick them out is if it gets to the point that staying with me is holding them back. I’m in no hurry to see them leave. >
  
  Same here. I also want my home environment to be one that my child can feel comfortable and safe to stay in if they need to, not to be made to feel like they’re an inconvenience as I was. >
  
  That’s why u kick them out at 17. Jk. 
  Well that’s what happened to me. Toxic family. Glad I left though. Doing much better now >
  
  My mom faked my birth certificate so I would graduate at 17, but she kicked me out at 16 anyway... >
  
  I moved out at 18 semi-voluntarily. I wasn't kicked but I didn't much like the deal on the table. 
  I worked hard and learned a lot and I genuinely credit it with me being a much more capable adult much sooner than I may have been. 
  That said, every situation has it's pros and cons. I lived very frugally, I didn't go out with friends too often and I didn't really spend too much on clothes or "things."
  I had simple pleasures, but my own small space. 
  This was around 15 years ago and I know it isn't getting any easier to do. I do however value my independence, capabilities and ability to function as an adult and I've never had to rely on parental financial support as an adult. There is a lot of freedom that comes with that.