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  They’re all democrats lol!
context: The thing about republicans is there will always be a new extreme around the corner. In a few years they'll have another party face lift and all the current ones screaming about RINOs will be the new RINOs. We're basically stuck in the end of Mean Girls.
  It's super weird for guys like Crenshaw. He's had quite the fall. >
  
  You're 100% correct. They're just going to keep pushing their party further and further to the right, like they have been for the past 30 years. 
  And the Democratic Party is going to keep pushing itself further and further to the right as well, just like it has been doing for the past 30 years, to pretend to be "center" and "reasonable" and "moderate" to "show good faith" and "reach across the aisle" and "compromise in the interest of the greater good" etc.
  We need a real left in America. >
  
  That's the Overton Window in action.  The R's need to Whig-out, the Dems need to stay put and be the new Right Wing, and an actual Left Wing needs to spring up, borne of the progressives fleeing the Dems.  
  The Dems are right wing by most country's standards, and are only Left Wing by comparison to the Republicans.  
  But while I'm wishing for things that won't happen, I'd like to be fabulously wealthy and have a mansion. 
  ...who am I kidding?  I'd like to have enough money to retire early and the type of middle-class family home I was promised in the 90's. >
  
  Franz Von Papen was left of Hitler in Weimar Republic Germany, and attempted good faith political discussion with him >
  
  I'm not sure what point you are attempting to make here. >
  
  You can’t reason or conduct good faith political discourse with fascist extremists >
  
  I'm super confused here.  I suggested that the Republicans need to disappear entirely, the Progressives splinter off to become a Left Wing Party and the remains of the Dems take the title as the Right Wing Party.  
  I also stated that this was highly unlikely to actually happen.
  At no point did I suggest or even imply that someone was going to have a conversation with fascists.  So where is that coming from? >
  
  My perception was that the above comment had nothing to do with what you said specifically but was a general statement about the title of the article and the overall conversation- more specifically the comment about Dems moving to the right and being the “reasonable” party who attempts to negotiate. I was attempting to clarify what I understood to be their meaning. They probably just replied to the wrong person. >
  
  Okay, you were attempting to explain someone else's confusing and seemingly unrelated reply to my message.  I appreciate the attempt, but your own post needed clarity as well, as it was just as tangential as the one that responded to me, without that context.  
  No harm, no foul. >
  
  I thought that when you said you weren’t sure what point they were trying to make, that you actually didn’t understand the meaning of their comment, not that you were asking about the context. Your reply to them could have used some clarity as well. 
  As for me, I agree with some of what you said. However I don’t think that Dems are moving right along with Republicans. If anything it seems to me that the platform has moved left, albeit not nearly as far or as extreme as the right wing. Things like defunding the police, universal health care, legalizing marijuana, reducing gender, lgbtq, and racial inequity, free community college and student loan forgiveness, universal pre-k, the bold action that has already been taken on green energy/renewables and the massive climate bill, never even used to be a part of the conversation at the policy level. These are (watered down) progressive policies. 
  I think that this administration has shown that progressive politics are having an impact and that the moderate wing is capable of carrying out that agenda, albeit slower than true progressives would like. 
  I also think that recent elections have shown the majority of the country sits somewhere in the moderate zone where Biden’s administration is at. The far right kooks are a minority, the sensible progressives are larger but their candidates still aren’t capable of winning elections because they don’t turn out to vote, and the rest of the country consists of moderates from both wings + independents. These voters rejected Trumpism en masse in the midterms and elected moderate democrats. As much as I would love to see more progressive politicians elected, it isn’t going to happen unless the youth vote starts to actually turn out. >
  
  There are two group. Loud Radicals, and Quiet Radicals. One is batshit crazy and makes the news every fucking day, the other doesn’t but still votes 100% along with the first group. In my 20ish years as a voter, these past few weeks where they could not agree on a speaker is about the least organized I have ever seen House Republicans be. >
  
  All the moderate republicans are democrats >
  
  Nancy Mace once vandalized her own house and then went to the media crying that it was antifa. The giveaway was how she writes her i's. >
  
  Really!? >
  
  Hmmm. Unproven, but certainly suspicious. I thought she was one of the better ones. >
  
  Thats the point of the article. There are no "better" ones >
  
  Certainly some are better than others, but you are saying none are “good”. >
  
  Nancy Mace is such a fraud. She’ll act completely different depending on what network she’s on, in terms if it’s a network like Fox News verses a network like abc,cbs, nbc, cnn, etc >
  
  Sad that my (former) district couldn’t vote for her replacement. Seems like Nancy has done a solid job of cementing herself in Charleston. Not to mention the absolute gerrymandering SC Repubs have done >
  
  Was excited to vote against her, but the sc house made her district safer when they saw a dem win it in 2018 and I was gerrymandered out. 40% vote for dem governor and yet 2/7 seats go to Dems. Republicans hate democracy. Full stop. >
  
  I always point to Justin Amash as a Republican case study. He made a factual statement about Trump, and was ostracized from the party. Few Republicans want to risk losing party support. >
  
  Same with Cheney and Kinzinger. >
  
  The Republican party is a domestic terrorist organization.  Treat it as such. >
  
  Domestic? Given their anti-climate policies they are international. Guess which two countries didn’t sign the recent global agreement about biodiversity: The Vatican and the US because of the Senate. >
  
  Domestic and foreign! >
  
  The Republican Party is full of fascists and traitors. >
  
  They've moved the Overton window so far to the right that they've normalized fascism. In that regard, it would be impossible for a "moderate" to even exist. And yet, people who still want to persist in maintaining a status quo will insist that there are "good ones" or "reasonable" ones just because some of them aren't shouting about Jewish Space Lasers or openly snuggling up with conspiracy driven white supremacists.
  If you have ten people dining at a table, and one of those people is openly a nazi, you have ten nazis at the table. >
  
  ~~House~~ >
  
  And there was once a time when the focus was on the issues and what they were there to do for the voters they represent rather than the focus being on their personal lives but today all we hear about are republicans personal lives and antics and nothing about their plans or what they’re getting done. 
  They need to remember who pays their salaries. >
  
  They do. The corporate lobbyists who fund their super pacs. >
  
  You have absolutely batt shit crazy, crazy and less crazy. >
  
  And it leans toward batt. >
  
  Yes there are, they just call themselves Democrats and have neo-liberal policies >
  
  Cowards....  klanish is the word.... The don't care about Democracy.... They are still fighting the lost cause.... civil war..... Make no mistake about it. >
  
  Then and now..
  The wealthy are manipulating the poor, in to blaming a group that’s even more poor than they are, to blame for why they are poor, so that the wealthy can get wealthier by exploiting the poor. >
  
  Yep, and the people who need to realize it the most, never will. Tale as old as time. >
  
  The lady in the picture is a misogynist. >
  
  That’s because “centrist dems” are the “moderate republicans”. The GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization. >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  GOP = far right wing. Centrist Dems = just right of center. Doesn’t get any clearer than that. >
  
  they're called centrist democrats >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  They're called center democrats >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  There are no moderate REPUBLICANS.
  Every voter that votes for these extremists is an extremist themselves.
  Full stop, 100%, I’m not interested in counterpoints that will never explain how you can vote for a fascist without being a fascist.
  I have no respect for any conservative voter. >
  
  They all think they are moderate. >
  
  That is exactly true. If you ask most of the Republicans in your general area, most of them will disagree with the extremes that have been revealed in the last few years. Most of them will denounce the Jan. 6th insurrection, but will still believe that there were inconsistencies in the election process. Most of them will agree that Trump was a complete moron, but will still argue that Hillary would somehow have been worse. 
  The wildest part is that most of them will agree that capitalism in its current form is a toxic hellscape, but will disagree on how regulations need to work (often saying they need to be removed altogether because they don't realize how things were before regulations were enacted in any given sector). >
  
  Functionally, no, there aren't. 
  Privately, I bet there are more than a few who are just right of center. But there's no room for those people in the party anymore, so they have to go along with the lunatic fringe if they want to stay in office. >
  
  We are what we do and nothing more >
  
  I like this.  Well put. >
  
  
  “Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
  That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.” 
  
  -- A.R. Moxon >
  
  What would be considered moderate republican years ago is now moderate Democrat for the most part save for a few outliers. >
  
  Makes you wonder what was in those emails Russia stole from them. >
  
  Republicans have become insane - it is not a serious political party. >
  
  Democrats have all the moderate conservatives now. >
  
  The Democratic Party is in essence the moderate Republicans, just look at their positions on progressive and social democratic policies. They too are opposed to things like public healthcare. >
  
  "Moderate" for a Republican means they only want to cut out the tongues of women with opinions, instead of burning them as witches. >
  
  The are no moderate ~~house~~ republicans. >
  
  there are the two that voted to impeach trump >
  
  There are but they are all democrats >
  
  The last few moderates lost their primaries in the last election. >
  
  What do you call a moderate Republican?
  A Democrat. >
  
  Yes there are. They're called "democrats" >
  
  They’re all neo nazis >
  
  In other news, water makes things wet >
  
  Follow the campaign money.  Where are all these loony tunes getting their cash? >
  
  There are no moderate Republicans. They've all been ousted from the party already. >
  
  Moderate Republican here.
  My politics now align with the Democrats. >
  
  Moderate Republicans are now moderate Democrats. There are no moderate Republicans left >
  
  I hope no one paid for a study to figure this one out. >
  
  There are no moderate Republicans, period.    
  It's time for communists, socialists, leftists, progressives, democratic socialists, liberals, Democrats, capitalists, moderates, neo-liberals, and centrists to finally come together and recognize that conservatives are a threat that needs to be dealt with. >
  
  Qanon nutters or Taliban Conservatives >
  
  McCarthy let himself be "f**ked" in the back by the far-right Gaetz locos.  This is what you get. >
  
  Full on fascists, and their enablers.  Use the word.  1/6 wasn't enough ? >
  
  They will continue to get more extreme, not less. >
  
  Yes, there are.  We just know them as “centrist democrats”. >
  
  LOL there are plenty. But for some reason they have (D) next to their names. >
  
  American politics is about the permanent divide. It’s just opportunists stoking the fire for short term benefits. >
  
  Let's hope Kanye sets them straight >
  
  Left-right and moderate-conservative have lost much of their meaning these days.
  Being an election-denier isn't more "right" or more "conservative" than believing in reality. Is QAnon more "conservative" than Liz Cheney? >
  
  There’s very few moderate Republicans in America. Period. >
  
  They're just in the democratic party >
  
  In congress as a whole…Manchin and Sinema are basically it. >
  
  No, the Republican party has been quickly moving further right. It started at a very notable pace with the tea party. If Democrats move a little to the left and Republicans are sprinting to the right, it doesn't mean Democrats aren't moderate. Republicans are quite literally moving the goalposts. >
  
  I think you missed their point.  Manchin and Sinema are the moderate Republicans in congress. >
  
  It would be great if the word OPINION was highlighted in the title of the post. >
  
  Literally though >
  
  Yeah, that's because there's really only two political-psyches that exist: conservative and not-conservative. You either want to stop change and allow a hierarchical system to control everyone's personal and financial existence or you want progress and don't believe people exist in a heirarchy. >
  
  Congratulations USA. You voted for the right members. You get what you deserve. Sh_t >
  
  I would say their are, just non with any backbones or principles >
  
  That’s a bold statement, that isn’t true, there are still “moderate” republicans. >
  
  With all due respect: bullshit.
  At any point since 2016 these so called "moderate" Republicans could have stepped up and and stopped all of the worst of Trump and the MAGA sheep's machinations. The generous explanation is that they are cowards. The more likely explanation is that the "moderate" is simply a façade for them.
  The most obvious example is Trump's two impeachments. All those "moderate" Republicans sat back and let the worst president in, well, ever, to continue to occupy the presidency after violating our rights and acting illegally. >
  
  ten house republicans voted for impeachment and two remain in office >
  
  That’s what I’m saying, there are republicans that spoke out against trump, Liz Cheney lost her election because of it. There are reasonable people everywhere. >
  
  Ain’t no good looking ones either. >
  
  The ole overton window. Really love that timeless classic >
  
  Everyone knows this. >
  
  The simple fact is that while there are some Republicans who may talk about compromise or moderate solutions, when you look at their voting patterns they are not moderate at all. That's ultimately the only thing that should matter. >
  
  Because they are ideologues. 
  Newt Gingrich put the GOP of the path of „zero-sum politics“, where it’s better to lie than to stay true to facts. Where attacking the appeal of the other side with maneuvering instead of rising appeal of the own party. Where it’s better to win as a party instead of governing for the American people. And where politics are war and anyone, even of the own party, are fair game in being challenged when they themselves rather wish to adhere to moderation. 
  It’s not new that republicans have no moderates. But now they don’t even care to look like it. >
  
  I mean none of them believe what they say anyway. They’re as radical or moderate as they need to be to get elected. >
  
  Probably hasn’t been any for like 20 years. >
  
  Of course not. All of those moderate Republicans had either resigned or lost primaries to Trump-endorsed candidates. The party will be most likely be extreme and more far right as long as Trump is involved within the party. >
  
  It’s like Collins in the Senate.  Puts on airs that she is moderate, but when push comes to shove, they toe the party line.  And the party line is radical right.
  You’re never voting for an individual anymore if you vote R.  You are always voting party because they all toe the line.  There is no difference. >
  
  republicans = scumbags >
  
  Nancy Mace is a total snake in the grass. I saw a clip of her on MSNBC claiming she was pro life but using pro choice talking points. She will obviously say whatever you want to hear to be thought of positively. >
  
  Nancy has a tightrope to walk. Her district is about to be re-draw after the Court ruled it was racially gerrymandered, so her next election won't be so easy >
  
  Eh, I'd say Manchin is pretty moderate among republicans >
  
  No shit the moderates all call themselves democrats. >
  
  the last moderate republican died to cancer not long after voting down the medicare repeal fiasco >
  
  True. Every one of them is complicit in the dismantling of our democracy. They all supported trump and are driven my their own greed. >
  
  Why do they all have the same crazy, dead-face? >
  
  They all bent the knee to maga, the party is lost. >
  
  never has been >
  
  The platform is a list of things they love and hate. It’s no longer rooted in ideology as much as expediency.
  How can you be a moderate when the platform deals in extreme love or hate? >
  
  How many comments did I read last week begging the democrats to reach out to some moderate republicans over the McCarthy vote? >
  
  There are no moderate republicans period. Party of fascists. >
  
  The last moderate Republicans were mostly in the 70's before Reagan. >
  
  They submitted to a demagogue, Trump won't let them go when he can and will destroy them to suit his own purpose. >
  
  That’s not true, though they are a rarity. >
  
  They’ve been actively chasing out and primarying moderates for years now. >
  
  Gerrymandering has caused this problem. Noncompetitive districts favor extremists.  That and Fox News, right wing radio, and disinformation online, but mostly gerrymandering. >
  
  Paywall post >
  
  There’s this strange belief that there are sane moderate Republicans but we can never really tell the difference between the policy positions of Lauren Boebert and Susan Collins only that the latter seems like a nice person but beyond that they agree on the mostly the same things. >
  
  Moderate house republicans are now called moderate democrats >
  
  there’s no such thing as a moderate, period. america’s overton window is so skewed to the right that even most “liberals” are on the right >
  
  moderate republicans get called liberals >
  
  Good news: All the bullshit bills they pass will amount to nothing. They’re all DOA. 
  Bad news: The debt ceiling battle is when they get to act like spoiled children. They’ll demand Biden/Democrats pass every bullshit, oligarch fellating, freedom smashing, crayon written, bill pass or they will default on the debt and send the economy crashing. 
  …because that’s fiscal responsibility and only a super tough (totally not a pedo protector) guy like Gym Jordan could manage to get it done. 
  Biden should make a statement well in advance, if Republicans intend to default on the debt, the consequences are XYZ. Make them own it before they even try it. Do not blink. Give them nothing. >
  
  This thumbnail is like some kind of uncanny valley ass pod person nightmare. Please tell me it's AI art >
  
  No shit >
  
  The party has been highjacked. >
  
  Not really.  How many votes for this weeks stupid bills that don't have a chance in hell of passing?  If they voted AT ALL that wasn't "NO" then they're not moderate. >
  
  Benevolent is a better term. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Don Bacon, and Brian Fitzpatrick being a few of those. Nancy Mace and Dan Crenshaw definitely seem to want to make that their image, but that’s only on a handful of issues. >
  
  Because the left have moved out of left field, left the stadium, and are currently getting pegged by cyborg children while drinking baby blood. 
  Duh, idiots. >
  
  Not really.  Maybe over social issues... gay marriage, trans rights, abortion, anti racist education... which matter about 1% to running the actual government. Bernie and AOC are only asking for things that have been standard in Western Europe for 30-40 years and even European right-wing parties won't touch. They're not really even socialist. >
  
  So there aren’t guys with big cocks in dresses and make up flashing 6 year olds for money or… >
  
  The demise of moderatism is evident by Wyoming politicians being offered stupendious money to build wind farms etc. and shown that it would offset the mass job loss in the states fossil fuel sector. However the politicians there have forgotten to critically think or argue a point because republicans who do are branded left-thinking sellouts.
  It's all well and good to be a politician of sound bites but I like to think eventually republicans will realise that pride in being popular through popular culture is different than competence. >
  
  They only care about a primary challenge >
  
  There are no moderate ~~House~~ Republicans >
  
  The fact they were calling Liz fucking
  CHENEY
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  a rhino. She's literally ~~darth Vader's ~~ Dick Cheney's kid. And has the exact same politics. This is how far right the modern GOP is. >
  
  This woman appears to be headed down the same fake tan path as Donald lol. >
  
  Can someone, in good faith, explain to me why you believe it’s a good idea to demonize an entire half of our country and their voting-field? With any politician/citizen, yes, there are negatives — but what goal can be reached from completely drowning out your opposites’ opinion? To me, history tells us to never do such a thing, regardless of how vitriolic you believe the other side to be. >
  
  Firstly, thank you for a source for your belief. However, I struggle to fully agree with this, as Popper regarded intolerance as a cause of political coercion and the inability to tolerate an opinion different to your own. Not tolerating an intolerance, an idea I’m sure you would agree to (if it were conservatives not tolerating liberal ideas they believe to be intolerant), is in and of itself intolerant. 
  As he states, “…as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise.” >
  
  And unfortunately there no moderate Democrats either. >
  
  Hopefully you forgot your /s. >
  
  "The now-famous “Twitter Files” have proven beyond all doubt that the corrupt officials at the FBI have been coordinating a massive censorship, surveillance, and propaganda campaign against the American People, and frankly against me.
  In the most recent and notorious example, the FBI worked to stop the truth from being told about the Biden Family’s criminality —they worked so hard to stop it from coming out — and the corruption prior to the 2020 election. They didn’t want any bad information to come out about the Biden family. The fix was in, the election was rigged.
  But the censorship of the Laptop from Hell is only the beginning of the story about the weaponization of government against free speech. We must have free speech in our country. We must have a fair and free press. As recent reporting shows, the FBI and other rogue agencies have been systematically colluding with former national security officials placed in high positions at Twitter, and very likely other companies, to advance their censorship regime, which is really in this case to steal an election.
  This anti-American effort, and a very illegal effort at that, has been working to silence dissenting opinions on COVID and crucial issues on public health and on the election, and elections in the future. They suppressed doctors and health experts who dared to question approved public health narratives. They censored voices who criticized school closures, lockdowns, and mandates. And they even banned people simply for stating proven scientific facts. And anything bad about China, they didn’t want out. But anything bad about Biden and the Biden Crime Family — and that’s what it was, just look at the Laptop from Hell — they didn’t want that coming out under any circumstances. What they wanted coming out was anything bad about your favorite president, me. Anything bad about Trump, put it out, even if it’s not true.
  But this all had nothing to do with science. This had nothing to do with saving lives. It had everything to do with politics or a sick ideology. This was about government working with powerful corporations to seize power over YOU, the American People. And we can’t let that continue.
  The “Twitter Files” prove that we urgently need my plan to dismantle the illegal censorship regime — a regime like nobody’s ever seen in the history of our country or most other countries for that matter. To prosecute the perpetrators for their crimes, and to restore free speech for all Americans — so important. We need a free press, we need free speech, we need fair elections, and we need borders.
  The new Congress should immediately hold hearings to investigate the role of the FBI and other federal agencies in censoring lawful speech. Congressional leaders should promptly issue subpoenas in furtherance of this goal.
  The revelations also highlight why my proposal to end the revolving door between the Deep State — and there is a Deep State indeed. I wasn’t a believer, but everybody’s a believer right now — and the tech tyrants is so important. There must be a 7-year cooling off period before any employee of these powerful agencies is allowed to take a job at a major platform. >
  
  This is a false take >
  
  Look some of us just wanted to sterilise the Jews. >
  
  When the opinion is based on center as left to far left then I can see that.  To lean left is to be horizontal left anymore >
  
  Aren’t the moderate democrats the ones taking us to war? >
  
  The thing about republicans is there will always be a new extreme around the corner. In a few years they'll have another party face lift and all the current ones screaming about RINOs will be the new RINOs. We're basically stuck in the end of Mean Girls.
  It's super weird for guys like Crenshaw. He's had quite the fall. >
  
  You're 100% correct. They're just going to keep pushing their party further and further to the right, like they have been for the past 30 years. 
  And the Democratic Party is going to keep pushing itself further and further to the right as well, just like it has been doing for the past 30 years, to pretend to be "center" and "reasonable" and "moderate" to "show good faith" and "reach across the aisle" and "compromise in the interest of the greater good" etc.
  We need a real left in America. >
  
  That's the Overton Window in action.  The R's need to Whig-out, the Dems need to stay put and be the new Right Wing, and an actual Left Wing needs to spring up, borne of the progressives fleeing the Dems.  
  The Dems are right wing by most country's standards, and are only Left Wing by comparison to the Republicans.  
  But while I'm wishing for things that won't happen, I'd like to be fabulously wealthy and have a mansion. 
  ...who am I kidding?  I'd like to have enough money to retire early and the type of middle-class family home I was promised in the 90's. >
  
  Franz Von Papen was left of Hitler in Weimar Republic Germany, and attempted good faith political discussion with him >
  
  I'm not sure what point you are attempting to make here. >
  
  You can’t reason or conduct good faith political discourse with fascist extremists >
  
  I'm super confused here.  I suggested that the Republicans need to disappear entirely, the Progressives splinter off to become a Left Wing Party and the remains of the Dems take the title as the Right Wing Party.  
  I also stated that this was highly unlikely to actually happen.
  At no point did I suggest or even imply that someone was going to have a conversation with fascists.  So where is that coming from? >
  
  My perception was that the above comment had nothing to do with what you said specifically but was a general statement about the title of the article and the overall conversation- more specifically the comment about Dems moving to the right and being the “reasonable” party who attempts to negotiate. I was attempting to clarify what I understood to be their meaning. They probably just replied to the wrong person. >
  
  Okay, you were attempting to explain someone else's confusing and seemingly unrelated reply to my message.  I appreciate the attempt, but your own post needed clarity as well, as it was just as tangential as the one that responded to me, without that context.  
  No harm, no foul. >
  
  I thought that when you said you weren’t sure what point they were trying to make, that you actually didn’t understand the meaning of their comment, not that you were asking about the context. Your reply to them could have used some clarity as well. 
  As for me, I agree with some of what you said. However I don’t think that Dems are moving right along with Republicans. If anything it seems to me that the platform has moved left, albeit not nearly as far or as extreme as the right wing. Things like defunding the police, universal health care, legalizing marijuana, reducing gender, lgbtq, and racial inequity, free community college and student loan forgiveness, universal pre-k, the bold action that has already been taken on green energy/renewables and the massive climate bill, never even used to be a part of the conversation at the policy level. These are (watered down) progressive policies. 
  I think that this administration has shown that progressive politics are having an impact and that the moderate wing is capable of carrying out that agenda, albeit slower than true progressives would like. 
  I also think that recent elections have shown the majority of the country sits somewhere in the moderate zone where Biden’s administration is at. The far right kooks are a minority, the sensible progressives are larger but their candidates still aren’t capable of winning elections because they don’t turn out to vote, and the rest of the country consists of moderates from both wings + independents. These voters rejected Trumpism en masse in the midterms and elected moderate democrats. As much as I would love to see more progressive politicians elected, it isn’t going to happen unless the youth vote starts to actually turn out. >
  
  There are two group. Loud Radicals, and Quiet Radicals. One is batshit crazy and makes the news every fucking day, the other doesn’t but still votes 100% along with the first group. In my 20ish years as a voter, these past few weeks where they could not agree on a speaker is about the least organized I have ever seen House Republicans be. >
  
  All the moderate republicans are democrats >
  
  The Democrats really are just a center left party and a right wing party in a trench coat with a couple real progressives sprinkled in at this point. Sad thing is the only way they’d be able to properly split is if the fascist party ceased to exist >
  
  Nancy Mace once vandalized her own house and then went to the media crying that it was antifa. The giveaway was how she writes her i's. >
  
  Really!? >
  
  Hmmm. Unproven, but certainly suspicious. I thought she was one of the better ones. >
  
  Thats the point of the article. There are no "better" ones >
  
  Certainly some are better than others, but you are saying none are “good”. >
  
  Nancy Mace is such a fraud. She’ll act completely different depending on what network she’s on, in terms if it’s a network like Fox News verses a network like abc,cbs, nbc, cnn, etc >
  
  Sad that my (former) district couldn’t vote for her replacement. Seems like Nancy has done a solid job of cementing herself in Charleston. Not to mention the absolute gerrymandering SC Repubs have done >
  
  Was excited to vote against her, but the sc house made her district safer when they saw a dem win it in 2018 and I was gerrymandered out. 40% vote for dem governor and yet 2/7 seats go to Dems. Republicans hate democracy. Full stop. >
  
  I always point to Justin Amash as a Republican case study. He made a factual statement about Trump, and was ostracized from the party. Few Republicans want to risk losing party support. >
  
  Same with Cheney and Kinzinger. >
  
  They refused to punish MTG for Jewish Space lasers comments, but did punish Cheney for merely saying that Trump should be investigated. They prefer Nazi rhetoric over the examination of Trump's potential crimes. Anyone not calling them fascists at this point are also radicals. >
  
  The Republican Party is full of fascists and traitors. >
  
  The Republican party is a domestic terrorist organization.  Treat it as such. >
  
  Domestic? Given their anti-climate policies they are international. Guess which two countries didn’t sign the recent global agreement about biodiversity: The Vatican and the US because of the Senate. >
  
  Domestic and foreign! >
  
  Earn miles when you fly with us >
  
  ~~House~~ >
  
  Democrats have all the moderate conservatives now. >
  
  And there was once a time when the focus was on the issues and what they were there to do for the voters they represent rather than the focus being on their personal lives but today all we hear about are republicans personal lives and antics and nothing about their plans or what they’re getting done. 
  They need to remember who pays their salaries. >
  
  They do. The corporate lobbyists who fund their super pacs. >
  
  Yes there are, they just call themselves Democrats and have neo-liberal policies >
  
  What would be considered moderate republican years ago is now moderate Democrat for the most part save for a few outliers. >
  
  You have absolutely batt shit crazy, crazy and less crazy. >
  
  And it leans toward batt. >
  
  they're called centrist democrats >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  Cowards....  klanish is the word.... The don't care about Democracy.... They are still fighting the lost cause.... civil war..... Make no mistake about it. >
  
  Then and now..
  The wealthy are manipulating the poor, in to blaming a group that’s even more poor than they are, to blame for why they are poor, so that the wealthy can get wealthier by exploiting the poor. >
  
  Yep, and the people who need to realize it the most, never will. Tale as old as time. >
  
  They've moved the Overton window so far to the right that they've normalized fascism. In that regard, it would be impossible for a "moderate" to even exist. And yet, people who still want to persist in maintaining a status quo will insist that there are "good ones" or "reasonable" ones just because some of them aren't shouting about Jewish Space Lasers or openly snuggling up with conspiracy driven white supremacists.
  If you have ten people dining at a table, and one of those people is openly a nazi, you have ten nazis at the table. >
  
  The lady in the picture is a misogynist. >
  
  What do you call a moderate Republican?
  A Democrat. >
  
  Republicans have become insane - it is not a serious political party. >
  
  They're called center democrats >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  The Democratic Party is in essence the moderate Republicans, just look at their positions on progressive and social democratic policies. They too are opposed to things like public healthcare. >
  
  I don't know, this sounds catchy but also, minimizes all the good things Democrats do. >
  
  Like what? Certainly not public healthcare. Perhaps you mean raising the minimum wage, cutting the military budget, ending taxcuts for the rich, giving OSHA and the EPA some teeth, etc? Oh wait. >
  
  Yes there are. They're called "democrats" >
  
  Moderate Republican here.
  My politics now align with the Democrats. >
  
  Moderate Republicans are now moderate Democrats. There are no moderate Republicans left >
  
  
  There are no moderate House Republicans
  
  Sure there are.  They're just members of the Democratic Party, now. >
  
  There are no moderate REPUBLICANS.
  Every voter that votes for these extremists is an extremist themselves.
  Full stop, 100%, I’m not interested in counterpoints that will never explain how you can vote for a fascist without being a fascist.
  I have no respect for any conservative voter. >
  
  They all think they are moderate. >
  
  That is exactly true. If you ask most of the Republicans in your general area, most of them will disagree with the extremes that have been revealed in the last few years. Most of them will denounce the Jan. 6th insurrection, but will still believe that there were inconsistencies in the election process. Most of them will agree that Trump was a complete moron, but will still argue that Hillary would somehow have been worse. 
  The wildest part is that most of them will agree that capitalism in its current form is a toxic hellscape, but will disagree on how regulations need to work (often saying they need to be removed altogether because they don't realize how things were before regulations were enacted in any given sector). >
  
  Sure there are. It’s just that they form about half the Democrat party. The people who call themselves members of the Republican Party aren’t Republicans. They are lunatics. >
  
  Functionally, no, there aren't. 
  Privately, I bet there are more than a few who are just right of center. But there's no room for those people in the party anymore, so they have to go along with the lunatic fringe if they want to stay in office. >
  
  We are what we do and nothing more >
  
  I like this.  Well put. >
  
  
  “Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
  That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.” 
  
  -- A.R. Moxon >
  
  Makes you wonder what was in those emails Russia stole from them. >
  
  There are no moderate Republicans, period.    
  It's time for communists, socialists, leftists, progressives, democratic socialists, liberals, Democrats, capitalists, moderates, neo-liberals, and centrists to finally come together and recognize that conservatives are a threat that needs to be dealt with. >
  
  Capitalists, neo-libs, moderates, and centrists are the ones who created this problem in the first place. They kept pushing conservative talking points when there was no need to, as leftists, socialists, demsocs, and progressives proved. 
  What we need is accountability within the democratic party so we don’t have traitors to the dems sabotaging democratic power moves just to keep the party center-right. >
  
  
  Capitalists, neo-libs, moderates, and centrists are the ones who created this problem
  
  Indeed.  
  But the nature of a democracy, and of being open-minded, is recognizing that you have to find consensus even with people you fundamentally disagree with.  
  The point of the statement isn't to absolve them of blame, it's to point out that there are people who are very far right, very much to blame, and yet not so far right that they should be excluded from the table.  To reinforce that Republicans are not half the country, but a far-right extremist group, that the rest of America needs to treat as such. >
  
  But they are extremist because of the capitalist, neo-libs, moderates, and centrists. When the holocaust ended along with the war, the Germans didn’t alter history and go “oh yeah and then the capitalists, neo-libs, moderates, and centrists aided the communists and socialists in rebellion against the nazis.” No, they told it like it actually happened, which is the center left, center, and center right betrayed the left wing and sided with fascists. This culminated in the communists being wiped out, arrested or killed and sent to death camps eventually, and then all parties but the nazis were banned. 
  Have you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance? Yeah well for the last five decades we have been listening to all those moderates and neolibs and capitalists argue that literal hate speech was free speech. That our rights were open game. Then the fascists listened. The heritage foundation dumped money into nazis. And thats the other thing, the nazis know the centrists will defend them, at least protect them from being run out of society. You, yourself, argue the line doesn’t protect them but the centrists did for the last fifty fucking years. Now the nazis are here and its too late and suddenly you want the left to trust centrists? No. They don’t deserve a seat at the fucking table. They deserve a fucking corner to think about all the damage they’ve fucking done. They are as much the problem as the nazis themselves bc they made the conditions for the nazis to rise in the first place. 
  No, fuck them. Bc the fact is, given a choice between leftists, socialists, and communists or literal fascists the center will choose fascist sympathizers every time that play the left as equally bad as the right. They’ll choose nazis over minorities, as the centrists in Weimar did then, American centrists will do now. Hell, they did it already two primaries in a row. 
  Bc american centrists are still far right by European standards. And they don’t get it, but the american left does. So fuck them, they made this mess and if madness and chaos and death ensues the american left will ensure history is written accurately to reflect american centrists role in all of it. >
  
  They will continue to get more extreme, not less. >
  
  Joe Manchin is a moderate Republican. >
  
  He is not in the House >
  
  No m0DeRAteS putting them in those seats, either. >
  
  "Moderate" for a Republican means they only want to cut out the tongues of women with opinions, instead of burning them as witches. >
  
  LOL there are plenty. But for some reason they have (D) next to their names. >
  
  That’s because “centrist dems” are the “moderate republicans”. The GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization. >
  
  I never understood this kind of rhetoric.
  If the GOP is a right wing domestic terrorist organization then how can centrist Dems be moderate Republicans? >
  
  GOP = far right wing. Centrist Dems = just right of center. Doesn’t get any clearer than that. >
  
  Yes, there are.  We just know them as “centrist democrats”. >
  
  The are no moderate ~~house~~ republicans. >
  
  there are the two that voted to impeach trump >
  
  There are but they are all democrats >
  
  The last few moderates lost their primaries in the last election. >
  
  Because they are ideologues. 
  Newt Gingrich put the GOP of the path of „zero-sum politics“, where it’s better to lie than to stay true to facts. Where attacking the appeal of the other side with maneuvering instead of rising appeal of the own party. Where it’s better to win as a party instead of governing for the American people. And where politics are war and anyone, even of the own party, are fair game in being challenged when they themselves rather wish to adhere to moderation. 
  It’s not new that republicans have no moderates. But now they don’t even care to look like it. >
  
  They’re all neo nazis >
  
  In other news, water makes things wet >
  
  Follow the campaign money.  Where are all these loony tunes getting their cash? >
  
  It’s like Collins in the Senate.  Puts on airs that she is moderate, but when push comes to shove, they toe the party line.  And the party line is radical right.
  You’re never voting for an individual anymore if you vote R.  You are always voting party because they all toe the line.  There is no difference. >
  
  They all bent the knee to maga, the party is lost. >
  
  There are no moderate republicans period. Party of fascists. >
  
  There are no moderate Republicans. They've all been ousted from the party already. >
  
  there’s no such thing as a moderate, period. america’s overton window is so skewed to the right that even most “liberals” are on the right >
  
  moderate republicans get called liberals >
  
  I hope no one paid for a study to figure this one out. >
  
  Qanon nutters or Taliban Conservatives >
  
  McCarthy let himself be "f**ked" in the back by the far-right Gaetz locos.  This is what you get.