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  1) What is the SERIOUSNESS of the document contents ? The way they were 
  kept, 100% sure  others have it. What is the harm then ?
  2)Have the pages BEFORE and AFTER these pages been traced ? If not, assume they were here too and LOST from the garage.
  3)Would any Vice President (not President) be allowed to READ
  these ?
  4)Was any US operation thwarted because others had these ? 
  5)Why didn't the Natl Archives discover this in 6 years - big ?
context: The ONLY reason the Biden documents are a story is because Trump decided to be a douche about all this... I am 100% positive of this, because we know that the National Archives tried, for over a year, to get Trump to return documents they were positive we had... and the only reason we know this is because he refused for so long they had to make it public.
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  This is simply another example of republicans doing the absolute worst thing possible, democrats doing nothing even remotely on scale of it, and yet the democrat is made to look like a guilty party. >
  
  Here's the thing too. They weren't even planning on making it public at all. It was 45's team that notified the press when his property was searched. Had he not blabbed his mouth (impossible, I know) we may have never even found out about it. >
  
  I think there's a reasonable chance this story was intended to hurt Biden because he's insisting on seeking re-election and there are those within the Democratic establishment that don't want him to run again. >
  
  They are tired of his dementia so he's being thrown under the bus >
  
  Only dementia I see is republicans deluding themselves in to thinking Biden has dementia. >
  
  Can you agree he had no reason to have those classified documents? >
  
  He obviously decided that he didn’t when he promptly returned them. Why are you trying to brainwash self in to thinking there is a scandal here? >
  
  So let me get this straight it's ok as long as he returns them after 5 years although he says he didn't even know they were there? >
  
  Yeah, that's what he is saying, as well as everyone else. Once he found he had them, they followed the correct procedure and returned them. 
  Not that complicated >
  
  If I see one more story about this dumb issue i might throw my phone in a river >
  
  Remember the Benghazi hearings? We're about to see it all over again.
  Hunter Biden's probably breathing a huge sigh of relief that the next 30 house investigations aren't all going to be about him. >
  
  Moreso his laptop will be breathing a sigh of relief.  It can go back to training for ISIS, developing gain of function viruses, and smuggling fentanyl across the southern border. >
  
  It can finally go live on a nice farm along with the DNC’s Ukrainian server, the Italian vote flipping satellite and the Jewish Space Laser. >
  
  And also, for context, look at a sample of just some of trump’s criminal history as well: tax cheat, head of a criminal fraud corporation, not allowed to be head of any non-profit organization due to his non-profit’s fraud behavior, settled for $25 million in the fraudulent trump university scam, investigated for trying multiple forms of election abuse, 16 rape accusations including one being pursued currently, ad nauseam.  And now compare that to Biden. WTF. >
  
  No no no see... Those are all made up lies by the democrats to slander trunp... >
  
  It's ridiculous that the news agencies are acting as if the two cases are the same. Trump intentionally took the documents and refuse to return them after being asked. Biden had them stored away by accident and turned them in when they were discovered. The only thing Biden did wrong was to hide his mistake from the news agencies, probably because he knew they would make a false equivalency with Trump. It turns out he was right. >
  
  It's funny though how we assess "intent". For "our guy" he gets the benefit of the doubt, their guy meant it. 
  I mean, how can you so certain that Biden had no intent to not disclose he had these documents but Trump did? This is just an be example of tribal thinking. We have no way of knowing Biden's intent or if it was just an accident. It's been reported some of the classifed docs related to Ukraine, where his son was working? Relevant ? Who knows. 
  I personally think this story is overblown. But do we even know the contents of these documents, in either case? I think that matters in order to try and ascertain intent. >
  
  Funny how? One example where documents are intentionally withheld, and another where the authorities were alerted right away once the docs were discovered. My assesment of intent is based on this behaviour. Why is that funny? >
  
  That doesn't really provide much insight into the original intent as to why the documents were illegally kept privately in the first place. What you are describing is how each party reacted upon being discovered. Two thieves can react differently upon being caught - their reactions shouldn't necessarily be interpreted as a indicator of guilt or innocence -
  or in this case their intent. 
  Having said all that, I think both of these stories are a media driven beatup. >
  
  You think trump withholding TS/SCI documents for months after the government asked for them back is a media driven beatup? Even though his team is the one that announced the raid, and the media wouldn't have even known about it until well after the fact? >
  
  Do we know what was in the documents and whether it was especially sensitive information? Applies for both cases. Difficult to ascertain how serious the story is without knowing that. 
  It was also Biden's team that announced his stash of documents - it wasn't Biden himself. In fact they found one stash in early Nov.  It seems clear the National Archive would have asked at that point if there were more but Biden didn't disclose any more. 
  And then they found another batch in Dec, 5 weeks later.  But it didn't end there. They then found in Jan another stash of undisclosed documents in his home. One could also read into that. There was no sensational FBI raid obviously. >
  
  
  It was also Biden's team that announced his stash of documents - it wasn't Biden himself.
  
  what a silly distinction. The national archive and FBI would have been happy if Trump's "team" returned the documents they repeatedly requested. The national archive wasn't insisting that Trump himself lug boxes to DC. >
  
  The republicans marketing team wants to make it sound scary lol. >
  
  One took docs home for work and forgot about them (just plain stupid), the other stole docs in hopes using the info to profit either politically or financially (just plain criminal). >
  
  I can tell by reading these comments that many lack the ability to read the statute and understand the nuance of Joes situation that makes this a completely different situation to Trumps. Now an investigation is warranted as a matter of routine but my guess is that it is very open and shut and takes very little time. This isn’t even political. They are factually two different scenarios. >
  
  Well said! I feel like I get a blank stare from people when I mention compare and CONTRAST. I’m never sure these days if people are willfully ignorant or simply incapable / unwilling to think critically about a topic. >
  
  Clicked link. Did not, in fact, contain a picture of the documents "side-by-side". Disappoint. >
  
  Tangent: love that picture. There's a maybe 13-year-old in the background who looks just a bit underwhelmed being within fart-smelling distance of the Tremendous Orange Whiner.
  In another way it seems odd Trump didn't have him thrown out for not wearing a tux. >
  
  Pisses me off so much that this article needs to exist. Talk about dropping the friggin ball!  /facepalm
  I know the two scenarios aren’t even close to the same but good luck getting the public at large to understand that. … and the right is going to milk this story for all they can.  
  I think Biden is doing great so far in his presidency, and I believe this was an honest mistake in his case, but if Trump going to jail means Biden needs to go too, so be it. Sorry, Joe. Should have been more careful. >
  
  They were discovered by his own attorney. Who notified the National Archives. They promptly returned them.
  It seems like there was nothing particularly sensitive there. Could have been personal calendars and day planners. 
  And I guarantee Biden hasn't seen these documents in ages. They were in a box, in his garage, in his former residence. 
  Trump had his sensitive Top Secret documents in his personal possession. In his safe and scattered around his office. Was asked for over a year to return them to the federal government. Refused to the point that criminal investigators needed to get involved. And it's unclear whether some are still missing or if foreign intelligence had access. 
  It's not even close to the same thing. It's not clear if any of the documents are still even classified. But it was an "abundance of caution" type of thing. 
  They did exactly what you are supposed to do in this kind of scenario. 
  
  I'm sure Bush is nervously looking over at his filing cabinet. >
  
  You would think if they were of some super importance, the national archive would have asked for them instead being offered to them. >
  
  What comparison?  If they both broke the law, both should be indicted, it’s easy and non-political.  If they have a defense then they can raise it at trial >
  
  lol we get to look at them side by side? i thought they were cLAsSiFiEd
  /s >
  
  So...this isn't a 'side-by-side'...LOL >
  
  I feel like all of these articles explaining why these two things are not the same are going to cause most Americans to conclude that these two things are the same because that's just how the unwashed masses roll. >
  
  They should both be held accountable. Country over party. >
  
  Biden should get FBI raided! >
  
  Why, Biden's house was already searched. They didn't need to raid Biden because he cooperated. 
  Trump wasn't raided because he had documents, he was raided because he refused to turn the documents over. Trump even filed false information with the courts. He lied, in writing about what documents he had in his possession. >
  
  The fact that the media is making this difference.  It means it's being treated differently from, say, Hillary's emails. I don't remember Hillary Clinton ever getting this benefit of a doubt. >
  
  Even Hunter's laptop is a joke outside of Fox circles. >
  
  This is the clearest example of Cognitive Dissonance I’ve ever seen before. Incessantly posting this in desperate attempts to make yourselves feel better about the situation is sad and entertaining at the same time. >
  
  Thank god someone else on this sub lives in reality. >
  
  Biden is the sitting president and trump holds no office might be a difference... >
  
  Let’s punish Trump first and then figure out what happens Joe. >
  
  I agree with you! >
  
  Probably should be posted under /unpopularopinion:  Biden hid documents at multiple locations and did not disclose voluntarily for so many more years! Even his press secretary claimed all were found, until another classified document found afterwards! 
  May I ask that reviewers of this post look at the actual evidence?  Look at the facts and the official disclosures?  I know that is a huge ask. >
  
  When you live in a glass house, maybe you shouldn’t throw stones….  What’s good for Don is good for Joe. >
  
  I guess biden needs prosecuted for his crimes. >
  
  Sure, once there's been an investigation and it's actually determined to be a crime. >
  
  Fair >
  
  The difference is that Trump stole nuclear documents to sell. And make no mistake, they have been sold to the Saudis. Trump is a traitor. >
  
  And your proof of this is?
  Also, how do you know that none of the documents that Biden effectively stole (to use your terms) were nuclear-related? >
  
  I predict there will be no prosecution. The privileged will get away with it. Guilty >
  
  I'll play devil's advocate here and say they're exactly the same situation. Biden was just much smarter with the "pretend to not know about it / blame the intern" play. >
  
  And the whole not lying in a written response to a subpoena, or trying to keep them after being asked for them back, or  keeping their location hidden from the government things.  Those as well. >
  
  Democrats have to just let this one go. If Trump did everything you think he did, then you should have ten different other scandals to attack him with. But playing the "no, it may sound exactly the same but it's different for these reasons" game is a losing proposition. All anyone who isn't obsessed with politics hears is "Biden did the same thing." >
  
  Except for the part where Trump refused to return the documents. >
  
  Biden still broke the law. >
  
  Yes, but the situations are still different. >
  
  Say what you will. If your speeding because you didn’t see the posted sign and didn’t know. You’re still speeding. >
  
  Trump continued and still is speeding. Biden is stopping his speeding. >
  
  One waited until after the midterms to have this info disclosed the other didn’t? >
  
  Pay attention folks, this is being driven hard.  Democrats don't want Biden to run in 2024.  This is how he is going to be ruined.  He's done >
  
  There are plenty of Democrats who DO want Biden to run again. Don’t generalize and don’t be disingenuous. >
  
  "But her email!" >
  
  The people that need to read this won’t. Right wing propaganda will skew what Biden did as the same as but somehow worse than Trump and frame it as, “see this is why democrats are hypocrites!”. Of course it’s bad this happened but if they want to compare the two what trump did was explicitly worse. 
  Anyway, it won’t matter to the people who think let’s go Brandon is funny and that Ted Nugent has the right idea about a lot of things. >
  
  by the book v. Destroy the book >
  
  Apples and Orange Anuses. >
  
  Nov 2 - 1st batch handed over and a Thank you note given. It took till 
  Jan 11 for 2nd batch ? How BIG are Biden Houses(s) ?? >
  
  Democratic top Brains are trying to SPIN it as no OBSTRUCTION of justice(OOJ). 
  Well, if OOJ was the only/top consideration in criminal trials, then America's 
  jails and prisons would be EMPTY.