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  As someone who watched part of it live on Portuguese television: Very good. The leaders of the Brazilian Congress storming must be punished.
context: An arrest already? I thought you had to wait a couple of years at least. >
  
  What’s going on with Trump is ridiculous. Especially seeing it on the front page all the time >
  
  It's pretty clear none of our politicians want to open the Pandora's box of of locking up the wealthy and privileged classes, unless it's a violent crime of some sort.  That's not something they can step back from.
  After two years of this bullshit, I can't come to any different conclusion than this. >
  
  I think its more the pandoras box of arresting a former president . They are scared. There have been politicians who have been locked up but not a president. >
  
  There's also certainly an aspect of knowing how the GOP will play it. They already invent things their opponents have done, and then actually do those things and claims it's fine because everyone does.
  If a former Republican president ends up in jail they have all the PR ammo they need to go scorched earth and start purging local and state politics of anyone not in their pocket. They have the gerrymandered advantage in enough places that this could be truly disastrous. >
  
  I don’t understand this. How is it possible to arrest and hold traitors accountable? What wizardry is this?? >
  
  I have to admit that I didn’t have “I admire Brazil’s justice system. I wish the justice system in the US was more like Brazil’s.” on my 2023 bingo card. Definitely not in the first few weeks of the year. >
  
  No, you don't want this justice system. One of the ministers responsible for the arrests of the people involved in the assault is acting like a dictator and it is not good. Usually, ministers cannot order the arrest of people just like that, but the supreme federal tribunal was given immense powers.
  Recently a podcaster had his entire social media network taken down merely because he said it the assault was something good.
  Needless to say, you also don't want this justice system because it enable a convicted criminal to be cleared of charges and run again for office. >
  
  Just letting everyone know that the user I'm answering to is a Bolsonaro supporter who is outraged by terrorists and those who want to protect and enable these terrorists suffering the consequences of their actions. >
  
  I do not support Bolsonaro. I do not have empathy for him. I think what he did and is possibly doing is wrong and immoral. I think he should be arrested. But every single politician and minister in this country is crossing the line. I would invite you to come here and live the lives of people under the yoke of a corrupt political class. >
  
  I'm Brazilian. >
  
  A draft order formalizing the coup was found in the former Minister's house. There is much speculation as to why the order wasn't issued. Some people are pointing that a bomb was planted in a gas truck in brasilia's airport by a Bolsonaro supporter and the bomb didn't explode because the driver saw it and called the police when he came to work. It's very possible that this terrorist attack, if it went through, would be used by Bolsonaro's government as an excuse to actually issue the order in the name of "ensuring order and safety" >
  
  Wow they're moving swiftly, almost like it should be taken seriously. Imagine that. >
  
  This is what would have happened in America if Bernie was in power instead of Biden. 
  The Democratic Party purposefully goes easy on the Republicans and hurt actual progressives because they both only serve capital. >
  
  The similarities between Trump and Bolsonaro are uncanny. There have to be more cases of this happening around the world, right? >
  
  Probably but I don't think the similarities would be as much as in this case. A part of Brazil has the terrible habit of imitating the US and Bolsonaro and it's followers' actions show that perfectly. >
  
  It’s part imitation, yes, but look back over the last couple of  years and see why Brazil had their very own CPAC, where Bannon spent time with Bolsonaro and his sons. 
  This isn’t merely imitation, it’s instruction. There’s a handbook for toppling democracies. >
  
  Fascinating! What is Bannon, exactly? If it's not merely a coincidence, then he should be on some kind of watch list. I can't imagine the CIA wouldn't spy on him 24/7. >
  
  Steve Bannon. He's been working with conservatives around the world to fuck up democracies for quite a while. >
  
  He got chummy with Orban when CPAC went to Hungary didn't he, or am I thinking of someone else? >
  
  He will probably open his mouth now and bring Bolsonaro with him. >
  
  I can already taste the tears of rage from his followers >
  
  Ballsacknaro >
  
  As an American. Yo. You can just do that? >
  
  Yes, when the opposition party isn’t completely full of shit and tacitly endorsing the fascist party’s actions. >
  
  Even if it is. What you need is a democracy, laws, and people with integrity that are paid to enforce it.
  America is missing some of the list >
  
  Respectfully, I find this to be a nonsensical comment. Institutions aren’t apolitical entities devoid of interest or bias. If you have two parties in power who agree to use or misuse the institutions in a certain way, or if you have institutions that were designed to be used in certain ways, you can’t suddenly overcome those problems with abstractions like “democracy” and “laws.” We have racist laws put in place by racist politicians who were put in place by so-called “democratic” means (I.e. gerrymandered elections, a propagandized electorate, racialized socioeconomic caste system, etc. etc). This is what has been advertised as democracy to millions of US citizens.
  Most of these kinds of appeals to “democracy” are made devoid of any grounding historical or material connection to the reality in which those institutions exist. My comment is precisely about the politics of parties / people determining the behavioral outcomes of institutions, not how those institutions will magically ensure “justice” in any meaningful sense because of the presence of abstractions like laws or integrity. It all comes down to power and its use. Brazil has one of the highest corruption indexes on Earth. Lula had been imprisoned on false charges not long ago. This didn’t happen because Brazil is a nation of laws but because it’s a country where power is contested between rival parties.
  The US, on the other hand, is really a single-party corporate state with two wings putting on a wrestling show. Democrats are the face, Republicans are the heel. >
  
  👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽 >
  
  Wow maybe we need a few pointers here in the US. >
  
  Meanwhile, Merrick Garland and his special prosecutor continue to allow traitors and seditionists to live in luxury and continue planning their next insurrection.  Trump and co. should be waiting in jail with no bail while the investigation continues. >
  
  tbf, the Dems in Congress had two years to enforce the 14th Amendment, and chose not to. >
  
  Not with such a slim majority, they did not. >
  
  You mean there’s absolutely no reason to wait several years????? >
  
  Why can’t we do this? Go after the people who actually incited it? It’s ridiculously soft to only arrest the plebes. >
  
  Because Biden is a spineless centrist more concerned with looking bipartisan than doing what is right. >
  
  First fact I see. >
  
  Brazil seems to have more guts than the US >
  
  Brazil have Lula as president now. Last time he was president, he had to buy another presidential plane because the older one couldn't take off with the weight of his tungsten balls. >
  
  Lula is not Alexandre de Moraes, and Moraes was put in the Supreme Court years ago when Lula was not president. Brazil is also not a dictatorship where the President can simply say "get this guy", Lula would not have the authority to issue these arrests left and right like this because it's not his job to do so. >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 67%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  A former minister in the government of defeated Brazilian ex-president Jair Bolsonaro was arrested early Saturday, local media reported, in connection with the sacking of government buildings.
  A Supreme Court judge announced Friday that Bolsonaro will be included in an investigation into the origins of the sacking, which was sparked by anger at the far-right leader's election defeat to President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
  Erson Torres, who was Bolsonaro's last justice minister, was arrested when he arrived in Brasilia from the United States, where both he and his former boss were at the time of the attempted insurrection.
  
  
  Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Bolsonaro^#1 minister^#2 Court^#3 government^#4 Torres^#5 >
  
  What a novel approach! Arrest treasonous insurgents?  Why didn't we think of that? >
  
  probably have something do with majority of government officials are trump supporters, and many judges were mcconnel-trump appointees. >
  
  Almost like he planned this in advance;) >
  
  Yes, at least for Mitch, he planned accordingly, trump is too dumb to plan this way. which is why these insurrectionists got such a slap on the wrist. >
  
  Seems the US Republicans and the former guy has a play book for right wingers >
  
  And that’s how you handle criminals! United States this is what should have happened to Trump over Jan 6th! >
  
  100% >
  
  Looks like “$hit-hole” countries are quicker at addressing insurrectionists. >
  
  Happy cake day! >
  
  Brazil is not as weak as America when it comes to sedition. >
  
  Huh. Riot happens Jan 8 2023 and dude is arrested 6 days later. We’re still waiting on justice to reach those responsible for our own attempted coup 2 years later. >
  
  America Take notes: this is how you deal with fascists >
  
  Excellent  news. >
  
  Hey U.S.A., take notes! >
  
  ITT: people who don’t know shit about brazilian politics or history say that the brazilian justice system is “fair”, “effective” and “not corrupt”. The current president won the election after previously having been sentenced to prison for corruption (he got out on a technicality).
  edit: if it gets anyone to take a second to read wikipedia before downvoting me and moving on, i’m brazilian. >
  
  
  The current president won the election after previously having been sentenced to prison for corruption (he got out on a technicality).
  
  Even if you are a Lula supporter yourself, from that point of view, Lula only went to Prison exactly because of the Justice System being so corrupt and blatantly partisan! >
  
  the justice system is corrupt, but not always partisan (even if it is most of the time). there are good judges, and a shitload of bad judges, and many many more judges that rule in favor of their own interests (i.e. whoever is bankrolling them). i’m glad Lula won over Bolsonaro, but i wish it could’ve been anyone else. >
  
  And I wonder why so many american liberals and 'progressives' keep thinking that every other non-european countries are even more corrupt and incompetent than american government. Their depiction of world is so one dimensional, believeing everything what foreign films and youtube 'experts' say. >
  
  These lulags have no end