comment: >
  
  Juice is terrible for you anyway because it's loaded with sugar and preservatives. Just eat an orange to get vitamin C and fiber as well - it won't raise your blood sugar so high or so quickly.
context: Cool, I literally just got done drinking a glass of that. Altho at this point, pretty sure we are all filled with “forever chemicals”. Would be cool if companies would stop trying to poison their customers. >
  
  It’s the best orange juice I’ve ever had. I drink about a bottle a week. 
  Now I have to read up on PFAS. >
  
  Alright I think I need a list of things that are okay to ingest because I’m sure it’s only like… what… 10 items deep?
  I’m under the assumption the rest of the simply line is no better which is a shame because their apple juice literally has crack in it or something. >
  
  Yeah I have given up. Everything is poison and we are all gonna die earlier than we thought. >
  
  I have given up as well, this is the brand I buy for my kids and this freaked me out now. But what are the options that won’t kill us with something, likely none >
  
  Right? I had ppa and was insanely worried about lead. Fed my kid rice and fucking rice husks all the time, come to find out the organic brand I used tested over the limit for lead. How they didn't catch it before selling it I don't know, but unless I am going to test and grow my own food I have to assume everything could be poison and just make sure we enjoy each day cause if we have learned anything from the past 3 years it's that everything can change in a moment. >
  
  What brand? >
  
  Almost all of them sadly. You have to do research as most baby food is basically poison in the states. Google " lead level" or " heavy metals"
  You will be saddened >
  
  I'm not surprised.  Organic is more likely to use heavy metals for pesticides and all baby food I've seen is now labeled Organic.  Certain heavy metals are used as broad spectrum pesticides and are natural, so they can be used in Organic agriculture. This is often the case when the more narrowly focused pesticides (which may be safer) are synthetic, leaving Organic farms to use heavy metal pesticides in order to keep their Organic label. >
  
  Organic don't mean shit in chemistry. It only differentiates between carbon based compounds and the rest, that's it. A PFAS is technically organic cause it's a long ass chain of carbon atoms. >
  
  I'm specifically referring to the Organic label which prohibits synthetic pesticides in agriculture under the false belief that synthetic is unsafe and natural is safe. Under the Organic label, a man-made pesticide with very low toxicity is prohibited while naturally occurring heavy metals with much higher toxicity are allowed. >
  
  I just want food that isn't going to kill me, and perhaps orange juice that doesn't use flavor packs. >
  
  Highly recommend everyone sees "The Devil We Know" concerning PFAs. It mostly centers on DuPont (& Chemours, their ongoing liability spin-off). Utterly despicable and evil behavior from the executives responsible for perpetuating these forever chemicals. >
  
  That was one of the most depressing things I have ever seen, I couldn’t even finish watching.  We are doomed as a species. >
  
  r/collapse >
  
  Time to make a rival natural/health orange juice brand called "Orange you glad I didn't add PFAS?" >
  
  I Can't Believe It's Not Carcinorangenic >
  
  A bit cumbersome but we'll workshop it >
  
  I can’t believe I got cancer. >
  
  Dammit. That's my favorite brand. >
  
  I’m obsessed with Simply Limeade >
  
  Yeah, does just the orange juice give you cancer?  I got a couple bottles of Lemonade. >
  
  Everything gives you cancer. Even cancer. >
  
  Turns out it was cancer that was the real friends we made along the way >
  
  I also choose this man’s cancer >
  
  What the cancer doin? >
  
  Oh cancer, you’re what the Spanish call “El Terrible” >
  
  In my fridge right now too wtf >
  
  It’s only the tropical version. The headline is misleading >
  
  Thank you. You always have to come to the comments to weed through the bullshit. >
  
  
  Coca-Cola claimed juice was healthy despite toxic ‘forever chemicals’ levels ‘hundreds of times’ above federal limits, suit says
  
  Seriously, how is having toxic PFAS hundreds of times federal limits not illegal in the States? >
  
  Seriously? How do you control them? >
  
  By taking a years profit as a fine. >
  
  No, control PFAS >
  
  It depends where the contamination is happening. The FDA needs to take PFAS testing more seriously. Find the sources and ban them. If there's no safe way to sell beverages in plastic bottles, ban them and make everyone sell in glass bottles. >
  
  Problem is, that shit is in the water, the fruit, the soil it's grown in, the shits the underpaid and exploited migrant employees they "hire" take in the fields, and every other step of the process. Then the bottle contributes too. 
  The frightening thing is, it's probably already too late. That's not to say we shouldn't try, but it's a losing battle. >
  
  Not entirely, they’ve been making great strides in the processes of filtration in regards to PFAs as of late >
  
  Have they? Not being sarcastic or confrontational here. Just the first I've heard of it. Mind sharing some more info? >
  
  That honestly seems like a tiny amount of money to remove cancer causing chemicals from a whole city's drinking water. Like shit, with the price of medical care here, that's like the cost for 15-30 peoples' cancer treatment. 
  Not that I'm doubting you, It just really frustrates me to hear about these types of cost saving measures.  I would gladly pay a few extra bucks in taxes with the guarantee that my water would be filtered of carcinogens. >
  
  If they break the law once hundreds of times over, do you really think they didn’t again? >
  
  One of the core problems is this isn't actually a law >
  
  PFAS are now so common in the environment that companies will lobby  Congress to have it declared a basic food group. >
  
  I can see it now
  "Your honor, if ketchup can be classified as a vegetable PFAS could be labeled as an essential food group." >
  
  "It's essentially in everything!" >
  
  🎶”All the food is poison, all the food is poison…” 🎵 >
  
  Your dad’s barbecue brisket! Poison!
  Horse meat! Poison!
  Snout! Little babies! Poison!
  Fingernails! Cigarette burns! Poison!
  Scabs! Poison! >
  
  Stinks in here, smells like meat, rotten meat
  Kids why would you bring that rotten meat in here of all places?
  Kids you stupid motherfuckers
  What the hell's wrong with you kids >
  
  Love to feed my children poison. Love to literally have no choice in the matter because all of the food is poison >
  
  Send a letter to your local representative. Not joking this won't change unless USDA, EPA, and FDA are beefed up. They are a joke now >
  
  Lol the cats out of the bag tho with this shit. Teflon fucked us all. Thanks dupont again. >
  
  DuPont & 3M, 2 of my favorite companies >
  
  I knew it. That’s why I stick to whiskey. >
  
  I’m never eating or drinking again. Fuck this >
  
  Is it just the orange juice or have they just not tested the others yet? >
  
  Took an environment sustainability course in college. Basically the mentality in the US is you have to prove it's unsafe to not use it. Whereas in Europe you have to prove it is safe to be allowed. Of course this is very general sense but it shows the alarming difference. So yea they definitely have not test other stuff. >
  
  Jesus Christ that’s depressing. >
  
  Oh wait until I tell you about how rampant food fraud is. You’re probably eating sawdust regularly and whatever the fuck weeds they can find to bulk up spices. >
  
  at leasr my crayons are fine >
  
  theres PFAS in those too, and the colors are made from the tears of child slaves. Sorry. >
  
  Everything has pfas in it. We are living in a post pfas world. >
  
  Maybe if it's in my blood the vampires will pick someone else >
  
  It’s in everyone’s blood. >
  
  Supposedly giving blood often helps remove them from your body/blood in overall levels inside you >
  
  Fuckin’ fuck man, are we really circling back to bloodletting as a viable medical treatment again? >
  
  I’m not a juice drinker, though I do enjoy the occasional glass with breakfast. But, ffs… people give this shit to their young kids ALL the TIME! Bet they get nothing more than a slap on the wrist and keep selling this swill. >
  
  You should see how they make most BABY food purées >
  
  Please put source so I can see. Would love to see how. >
  
  Wtf do we do?? >
  
  just drank a glass, nice >
  
  Yep, just finished a whole container of it this week. >
  
  I just bought 2 bottles and now don't know what to do with them. >
  
  Go drop them off infront of your City Hall >
  
  Thank god I only drink Complexly Orange >
  
  I'm a fan >
  
  Every time i see the news like this it's like a playing in outer worlds again. It supposed to be a satire! >
  
  So is this one of those “definitely cause cancer” or “might give you cancer if your life sucks” type of thing? Cause I have half a gallon still and I’m going to be tempted to buy more when it goes on sale >
  
  I remember reading an article years ago about Simply Orange stating that while it's 'not from concentrate' they strip down the juice to make it cheaper to transport/process, then add orange flavoring back in, or something to that effect. At any rate, it's never been that they simply squeeze juice from oranges and pump it in containers. No surprise here. >
  
  Can anyone explain this in more detail >
  
  Notice how each  bottle from your  brand tastes the same, bottle to bottle? What are the odds they get oranges exactly the same ratio of sweet to sour, and juice them all.
  What actually happens is oranges are juiced, and stored in chilled vacuum containers, so they don't oxidize, hut can last a long time. OJ is available year round.
  This removes all the flavor. So flavor making companies make flavors to put in this flavorless liquid taste good. >
  
  You’re basically paying them to give you orange flavoring, tons of fucking sugar, and whatever vitamins were left over or they added to make it seem healthy. >
  
  i knew that shit tasted too good >
  
  Archive link in case this story gets misplaced. 
  Thanks DuPont / 3M. 
  Companies used to have to identify the substance, who made it, and what it was used in. 
  Now: (redacted) substance made by (proprietary information) can be found in (data expunged). 
  New PFAS C6 seems to be worse for everyone than C8. Drinking water treatment for C6 less effective too. 
  So far locations for carbon 8 chain (C8) PFAS / PFOA / PFOS and C6 (green PFAS/PFAS lite) PFC / PFHxA
  -   fresh water fish
  -   simply orange juice
  -   stain resistant / waterproof clothing
  -   cooking in plastic containers
  -   storing hot food in plastic 
  -   grease resistant paper / fast food packaging
  -   microwave popcorn bags
  -   ski wax
  -   air
  -   pizza boxes
  -   candy wrappers
  -   firefighting foam
  -   concrete
  -   water
  -   nonstick cookware
  -   some cleaning products
  -   cosmetics 
  -   food grown in pfas contaminated soil or anywhere near a PFAS manufacturing facility 
  -   shampoo
  -   floss
  -   nail polish
  -   eye makeup
  -   rain water. 
  High exposure symptoms: 
  
  Disrupting hormone distribution
  Abnormally high cholesterol levels
  Weakened immune system
  Cancer
  Reproductive problems
  Weakened childhood immunity
  Low birth weight
  Weight gain in children and dieting adults
  
  Ignorance is bliss. >
  
  Disappointed but not surprised. What is safe to consume at this point? We’re living in an age of microplastics and micropollutants. >
  
  Nothing. We’re all infected. It’s like The Walking Dead. >
  
  The truth is that freshly squeezed orange juice does not store very long and loses its flavors. When you buy these prepackaged orange juice, it's probably been sitting in a silo for a year, and all sorts of things are done to keep it from going off, and to make it still seem like 'orange juice'. It's more like fancy acidic orange-flavored liquid at that point.
  There's a huge difference between freshly-squeezed orange juice and this stuff. Just try it. >
  
  That's not exactly true for Simply, I did some projects for the plant that produces most of it.  They have a pipeline directly from the juicer that's down the road. The juice is always kept very cold to preserve it and it doesn't sit long in tanks before being bottled (at least in the Coke plant).  But, they do add some essential oils to increase the 'oranginess'. >
  
  Essential oils eat plastic. When that happens chemicals like this can leach into the product. Gee, I wonder if this is an area of enquiry for the experts yet? >
  
  I wonder if it’s the container or the juice ? >
  
  Now I feel better about my steak and green beans dinner. >
  
  my man your steak and green beans had a lot of that there water mentioned >
  
  Dammit!
  Well, it’s tasty cancer I guess. >
  
  yer got dam right >
  
  Hmmmmm… 
  I used to drink this brand. ☹️ >
  
  An important thing to point is that the lawsuit is predicated on at least two important factors the high levels of forever chemicals and the claims Simply is making about being “all natural”.
  Makes me wonder if other orange juices have similarly high levels of forever chemicals but have not been included here or in other class action lawsuits because they were not making the “all natural” claims.
  As alarming as this may be, and as has been mentioned, forever chemicals are pervasive in our water supply and are most likely in higher concentrations in a fruit that requires a lot of water to grow.  In addition, it also would not surprise me to learn that other orange juices source their oranges from the same source or at least the same region as Simply utilizing the same or a similar water supply and subsequently have similarly high levels of these chemicals in their products.
  Again, it would be really surprising if Simply’s raw materials had uniquely high levels relative to other oranges or was doing anything unique to the product to intentionally add these chemicals.  It’s very likely that all OJs are in a similar boat, Simply was targeted because they had high levels and their claims (and because it’s a Coca-Cola brand; meaning they have deep pockets and would likely settle quickly to keep this out of court and the news cycle). >
  
  You mean Donald Sutherland LIED to me in those commercials?!
  /s >
  
  oh no, another corporation lying to us. nothing will come of it and no one will face real punishment. >
  
  Is there any food we can trust nowadays? >
  
  I'm literally drinking a glass as I read this. >
  
  i drank this shit for years thinking it was the best i feel betrayed >
  
  Being allergic to citrus is finally paying off. >
  
  This product is anything but natural. And it is definitely not healthy. >
  
  Ok, so what foods wont kill us at this point? Zero? I’m hearing zero. >
  
  To be fair, by now high PFAS levels are found everywhere in nature by now. >
  
  Fml I drink this stuff. >
  
  lol pfas is in ur drinking water supplies. probably way more foods with very high concentrations imo
  soda for example.
  States are only just starting the crackdown... >
  
  gonna be a big industry for water treatment plants as regulations tighten >
  
  Lol, as if Dupont/chemours/next liability name here will ever face any consequences or restrictions, they own the people in charge of that >
  
  Damn now we are all gonna die. >
  
  are we entitled to any significant compensation?  I've drank a fuck ton of this juice and I can most likely prove I have brain damage. >
  
  There haven’t been links between PFAS and brain damage >
  
  Dag I drink this all the time. >
  
  Wtf this is the only brand of juices we buy for a few years now. We have 3 different bottles in the fridge right now. Well f me I guess >
  
  I'm obsessed with their lemonade. Hope that doesn't count. >
  
  Same. We drink probably 5 bottles a week >
  
  And you wonder why the media conveniently keeps us arguing about topics that have nothing to do with corporate bottom lines.
  If we put the same energy towards the corporate/government corrupt world we could make the U.S a place where people go to jail for making toxic food like they should >
  
  Jokes on you. I don’t know what that is >
  
  Just wait until you guys find out what processed sugar does to you as well. >
  
  I was just thinking I’m glad I don’t drink juice (expensive and extra calories) but even water isn’t safe so we are fucked no matter what aren’t we. >
  
  I'm gonna stick to only eating my poison-free school glue. >
  
  GOD DAMNIT! I’ve been drinking this shit for years! >
  
  Goddammit. Of course it’s the kind I buy, because it’s the easiest to find low acid pulp free.
  Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the other brands are guilty too >
  
  Well, first off, if Coca Cola is making it, rest assured there’s nothing natural, pure or healthy about it. Probably just enough actual orange juice in it to get by and it’s reconstituted from concentrate, so that’s where the contaminated water came from. Filtering  is not purification. >
  
  Great, thanks Florida >
  
  Just eat an orange. Yummy vitamins,  minerals, and fiber to keep you full, plus juice. Win! >
  
  The oranges are what are most likely contaminated… >
  
  Just to be safe, don't eat or drink anything. >
  
  So odd to me, just add water. Water from the tap for all I care. Filtered water. Why would you knowingly have those chemicals in your juice? Guess I just stopped drinking that OJ. Actually bummed >
  
  The issue is the water is contaminated and most of the water in the world is contaminated to some degree. >
  
  This right here. The water is contaminated, the soil is contaminated, the fruit is contaminated, the animals are contaminated, we are contaminated. >
  
  I'm running out of will to care about the things that are eventually gonna kill me. >
  
  I mean, it's also just sugar water. It's fine if people like fruit juice as long as they're not fooling themselves in to thinking it's some kind of health drink. >
  
  This is the first of MANY LAWSUITS to come on this topic. All our soil & water is contaminated >
  
  Then chemours will change it's name again to kill all the lawsuits and keep right on going >
  
  Isn't this the orange juice that has 1 ingredient: oranges? >
  
  Be prepared for a coupon for one free half gallon of your choice. These lawsuits are a joke to the people who are actually affected and only feed bottom feeding money hungry lawyers. >
  
  So where's the class action lawsuit? >
  
  It must be illegal to sell anything that isn't carcinogenic. >
  
  Now your orange juice is water proof and flame resistant nice! >
  
  so now are we going to revolt? or are we going to continue to be mindless consumers >
  
  Son of a, I just finished a bottle of it 15min ago >
  
  Damnit I've been drinking this for years. Genuinely pissed and little bit nervous. >
  
  And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain? >
  
  Genuine question. Is it safe to say that all drinking liquids in plastic containers have toxic levels of PFAS? For instance, I love Costco but their bottled water regularly tastes plastic-y and I'm sure that shit is not good for you. 
  I'm not sure if this article is the result of a company defrauding people or just better testing with this product circumstantially tested. Probably both. >
  
  There’s pfas in everything. We are truly screwed. >
  
  It also has something much worse. Concentrated sugar with no fiber. >
  
  Still makes my vodka taste good >
  
  Well I’m for sure dead soon >
  
  Dammit I loved their OJ. >
  
  Many populated areas of Florida are contaminated with PFAS, and the government makes a huge effort to downplay the severity of it and keep that information away from the public. >
  
  So is it the lemonade, the watermelon and all the others as well? >
  
  Just read that the Guardian misreported this.  It's not the Orange Juice that is specifically called out in the lawsuit, but their Simply Tropical Fruit Juice.  🤷🏻‍♀️ >
  
  I mostly drink water, from the tap, and whole fat milk. I need the calcium and it’s an easy way to get it. I want juice but juice really does nothing for me. On top of that, it never sat right with me they are able to label something 100 percent juice when it clearly isn’t. >
  
  Isn't simply the brand that put "NON-GMO" labels on all there products even when many of them had zero GMOs in the product line they said they were from? Like, there are no GMO Oranges but I swear Simply had them labeled as NON-GMO. >
  
  Crap, that’s the only orange juice I used to drink. >
  
  I stopped drinking this 
  Mostly because of the added sugar 
  You’re better off making your own orange juice because there isn’t a single brand where the product is actually healthy >
  
  Shocking.  Cooperation putting profits over people no way not again.   I used to drink this all the time before I found drinking juice like this is just as harmful as coke >
  
  See the company is named "Simply Orange". So it's a "Simply Orange" Juice. Not a "Simply" Orange Juice. Go quotation marks, go. >
  
  Drink apple juice ‘cause OJ will kill you. >
  
  Change name to “Simply PFAS”. Case closed. >
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if these are in a lot of mass produced products... >
  
  Let me guess, OJ didn't do it this time either? >
  
  Years ago I did some looking into the Simply Juice products and noped right out of buying these products. They have high fructose corn syrup, flavoring, and perfume. 
  You can purchase better products. I make my own lemonade syrup that I can keep in the refrigerator for quite a while and it is easy to make. There are other brands of orange juice that are actually orange juice. Tropicana is 100% orange juice, no added sugar, water, artificial flavors, and no preservatives. Just saying there are better products out there. >
  
  How do they get away with a label that says that all that’s in it is oranges if that’s not a true statement? >
  
  They lie and the FDA does nothing. And people believe what is on the label without doing any research to see if it is true. >
  
  
  They lie and the FDA does nothing. And people believe what is on the label without doing any research to see if it is true.
  
  It's not a lie if they don't actually regulate the term. Plus, even if they do, corn, orange concentrate, and perfumed orange oil can all be argued as natural. Which they are. People read "all natural orange juice" and assume "all natural" is the same thing as "pure" or "no additives". It's marketing, and marketing is designed to target dumb people. >
  
  When I see "Natural" on a food product label, I know to not ever buy it. It's as bad as all the potato and corn products with that big GLUTEN FREE! label: corn and potatoes contain zero gluten to begin with. >
  
  "Natural" is meaningless. 
  The "Gluten Free" label is important for people who have Celiac disease. Potato and corn products could be processed on the same equipment as wheat products, which would make them unsafe for people with Celiac disease. >
  
  I didn't realize trace amounts of gluten would trigger severe reactions. I know trace amounts of peanut can literally kill a person via anaphylactic shock. >
  
  A person's sensitivity can vary, and consuming gluten with Celiac's is tied to cancer, so it's still absolutely worth being conscious and careful. >
  
  Any processed food made or sold in the USA is most likely to send you to the hospital eventually for perpetuity. Healthcare makes money by keeping you drugged and constantly going there. There's a reason every other country bans US made processed food. >
  
  what's the alternative natural juice to get though? i hate minutemade since its over sweetened and dislike tropicana cause it taste like puke >
  
  Honestly, better to just blend it yourself >
  
  Your oranges could have pfas as well >
  
  Plastic bottles and acidic contents. It’s pretty simple chemistry: enough of the plastic breaks down over time to contaminate the product. This is why glass bottles are just superior in every way. >
  
  Article doesn't define PFAS for people
  L >
  
  2nd paragraph:
  
  PFAS are a class of about 12,000 chemicals typically used to make thousands of consumer products resist water, stains and heat. They are called “forever chemicals” because they do not naturally break down, and they are linked to cancer, fetal complications, liver disease, kidney disease, autoimmune disorders and other serious health issues. >
  
  Get those tested. Same source >
  
  This is why you do not mix your screwdrivers in the plastic bottle! 
  More seriously, this is the brand I would buy if I wanted to buy orange juice so it sucks that the container may be unsafe. (I would buy it more but I never ever finish it) >
  
  It’s in the juice itself >
  
  From the production equipment? Or from the growing environment? >
  
  They didn’t narrow it down in this article but the EU found it concentrated in fruits >
  
  Too bad!  It’s been long a favorite of mine. Guess I can go back to the 1/2 gallon carton. Probably fewer chemicals. >
  
  It’s in the actual fruit themselves >
  
  “All natural” doesn’t mean a damn thing. 
  PFAS are “natural”. >
  
  Buy floridas natural, it’s way better >
  
  The oranges are contaminated and it most likely is in every brand of orange juice >
  
  That's fake orange juice no matter how much they advertise that's its natural free squeeze. It's simply fake. >
  
  Unregulated Republican capitalism at its finest.