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  r/CapitolConsequences for more insurrectionist updates.
context: All 3 working in Intelligence. Jesus.
  Edit: I'm so happy that when I deployed, cell phones were still considered contraband, but also we didn't need to burn our shit. >
  
  Yeah, this is the most concerning bit of information. They really should require more than a room-temperature IQ from individuals working in the field of intelligence. >
  
  They did. And they caught it during the background check when the idiot confessed to the crime and told the security clearance investigators he went with two friends. They subpoenaed his IG and found the other two and got all three of them. 
  Government did a fantastic job on this one. >
  
  ...they still were working in the intelligence field though. >
  
  Intelligence is just another job. If you don't do drugs and have no foreign contacts, plus, can analyze info, in theory you're no different than a business analyst or data analyst except now you have a security clearance. I've met some real idiots in intelligence who can crunch numbers but can't figure their way out of a wet paper bag. It's sad, but it's the truth. >
  
  No shit, went through boot camp with this dufus who couldn't make his bed and was class clown. A real Gomer Pyle. At the end he gets selected for Intelligence because his IQ was up there. All freaking out when he found out the military background check meant talking to some of his neighbors. >
  
  I don’t know if you’re lying or simply misinformed, but the military doesn’t use IQ to determine job capability. >
  
  They probably just meant his ASVAB score was high, which is very similar to IQ tests if youve ever taken or looked at both >
  
  I could understand that, but in the Army, you already know your MOS. You don’t get “selected” at the end of training. He would have had an intelligence position before even going to basic training. >
  
  
  As the three men traversed the building, they allegedly went into the Capitol rotunda, placed a red MAGA hat on one of the statues and took a photo with it.
  
  Classy as expected. >
  
  
  and took a photo with it.
  
  I do appreciate how many of these dumbfucks were happy to self-document their crimes. Didn't even wear masks, since they'd already decided that masks were a communist plot to steal our freedoms. >
  
  This is what baffles me. They had the best excuse in the literal, actual world to wear a mask when they were committing multiple federal felonies, and decided not to. >
  
  That's the crazy part; they didn't cover up because they thought they were doing the right thing. They didn't try to hide because they saw themselves as heroes, not criminals. >
  
  They thought there would be majestic paintings depicting them like we have of Washington.
  I’m certain that’s what the shaman guy was thinkings >
  
  I'm glad I don't live in the timeline where that guy became a heroic sculpture. >
  
  That mommy's boy became the butt of many jokes, not a hero. He cried when he was arrested. >
  
  His mommy complained that he couldn't get proper vegan food while in prison. >
  
  Pretty sure it was organic nuggies. The vegan guy is the guy who murdered the 4 college students. >
  
  Hey, my rep is a retired marine general and he participated in the coup attempt by voting to shitcan Michigan's electoral college vote in 2020.  The bastard, thanks to the GOP voters here in the Michigan 1st, sent him back.  Fuck that guy.
  He also needs to be put away. >
  
  Wait who? I live in the thumb so idk what district that is nor who was sent back.
  Edit: we had too much to follow in our state this past election. Lots of crazies >
  
  Probably Jack Bergman >
  
  Yup.  Louisiana Jack.  Traitorous asshole. >
  
  Lol be came down to DC after Jan 6th and talked to all of us doing military stuff there and he told us we would regret getting out of the guard and we’d come back and try to join again alter. Dude literally came and gave us a reenlistment speech while our entire unit had to drop everything and travel from Michigan to DC over something HE backed. Lasted about 5 minutes then he left lol >
  
  Your tax dollars at work.  He most likely traveled from down south to DC.  He never comes here.  Flies in for a PR stunt and leaves.  But goddammit, he was re-elected.  Again.  The voters in this country.... >
  
  The military can set you up for life if you play your cards right. It can also permanently fuck you if you commit crimes or violate your oath. I hope these fucks get the big chicken dinner and suffer the consequences for a long time. >
  
  "chicken dinner"? >
  
  Big Chicken Dinner.
  Bad Conduct Discharge. >
  
  You'd think participating in an insurrection against the government you're an active military member of would be a tad higher than BCD. >
  
  A Really Big Chicken Dinner, then? >
  
  A Super DUPER Chicken Dinner. >
  
  It's been called the Duck Dinner. >
  
  Way to violate your oath, motherfuckers.
  Hope you enjoy your court martials. >
  
  Yup and lose all benefits and records shown of their actions place in Military Prison. >
  
  and make their wives scrape off all the “YOU WILL ADDRESS ME BY MY HUSBAND’S RANK” bumper stickers >
  
  Wait, what? There are people like that? >
  
  Yea, we called them “dependas” as spouses are known as dependents in the service.
  Dependapotomous is a certain breed as well >
  
  OMG I never heard that in 20 years of service. Is that what I think it is? >
  
  You served for 20 years and never heard of a dependapotamus or a tricareatops? I don't believe that for a second. >
  
  I did not. I know Desert Queen, 2-10-2, Hurt Feelings Report, ID10T form, crumbgrabber, and many more, but I had not heard those. >
  
  Ooh what’s a 2-10-2 ?? >
  
  Someone, usually a woman, who is a two stateside at 10 while on deployment, and then turns back into a two when they get back from the deployment >
  
  Sounds like they failed this:
  
  Enlistment Oath.— Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
  I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God)." >
  
  Honest question though... don't these dumb motherfuckers actually believe they are defending the constitution against domestic enemies? Like the oath keepers, their actions are justifiable to them if they claim they're the victims of an attack on the constitution. How would that defense even work? >
  
  No because the oath isn’t subjective to each individual persons perception. >
  
  It literally is. "Following orders," isn't an excuse. You aren't just able to, you're expected to disobey an unlawful order or one that goes against your oath.
  These guys are fools, but the oath still takes precedence over everything. >
  
  Big nose’ last name is coomer. You can’t make this stuff up. Lmaooo >
  
  Yeah, what the hell even happened to his nose?? >
  
  Result of being named coomer in the marines? >
  
  I'm firmly believe the punishment for corrupt cops and treasonous soldiers should always be double. What's that thing Uncle Ben told young Peter Parker? >
  
  Wash yer ass and don't chew your finger nails? >
  
  That was aunt may. >
  
  Yeah, that tracks. >
  
  They may have the best defense!  They were following orders directly from the commander and chief of the US Armed services.  I'm sure that DT will have there back on this. >
  
  Wow.  President precedent. >
  
  What happened to dudes nose? >
  
  He looks like Bert from Sesame Street. >
  
  As a Marine vet, they have disgraced the service. If I was on the jury and the evidence supported the charges. I would send them to Leavenworth for a few years. Strip them of their citizenship and send them to what ever 3rd country would take them and put them on the no fly list. In previous eras they would have been hung for treason. >
  
  It pains me that the punishments for the January 6th rioters are so lenient. It made me lose a lot of faith in my country. They should've been made examples of. >
  
  The punishments for the people who CAUSED the riots (Trump, McConnel, Greene, etc) are far, far more lenient. In that they have not and likely never will receive any. >
  
  Can't forget good ol' Charles and Mike Flynn, one of whom was a National Security Adviser, and the other is active duty. >
  
  I just read up on Flynn. His wikipedia page is wild. How was that guy not in prison since at least the Obama years? >
  
  court martial please for literal treason by active military. lock them up. >
  
  The few, the proud, the incarcerated >
  
  Santa don’t bring crayons to jail >
  
  Wonderful.  Now let’s arrest tRUMP. >
  
  Tr-ass >
  
  
  who work in intelligence
  
  holy shit the military needs to vet its shit better. >
  
  Imagine swearing your allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and then becoming the "enemy, foreign and domestic" that your oath talks about. >
  
  all the brainless get punished .. but Trump is still free. 
  wasn't he the one that geed up the easily-duped? >
  
  Mutiny under Article 94 of the UCMJ occurs when a service member creates violence or a disturbance with the intent to usurp or override lawful military authority. Sedition under Article 94 of the UCMJ occurs when a service member creates a revolt, violence, or a disturbance against a lawful civil authority with the intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of that lawful civil authority.
  Now, charges of mutiny and sedition don’t come along everyday. However, one would be mistaken to assume mutiny is reserved for the days a crew would revolt against their Pirate Captain
  Mutiny and sedition charges do occur and they are some of the most serious charges a military service member can face.
  Mutiny and sedition charges do occur and they are some of the most serious charges a military service member can face. >
  
  Dishonorable discharge for these clowns. A felony charge and jail time for every single fucking traitor than was in the building. >
  
  I like that these jerks are still getting arrested. Every participant who hasn't been arrested yet doesn't get to sleep well, knowing that tomorrow may be the day the feds come knocking. >
  
  Ha! Get fucked, traitors! >
  
  It's a wonder these knuckle heads gets arrested, but not the ones that incited the violence. >
  
  Dishonorable discharge, no benefits. >
  
  They look like Elder Scrolls characters when I can’t get the face proportions to look quite human. >
  
  Traitors. Guy in the middle looks like he needs to bob and weave better. The ole schnozz looks a little tender. >
  
  Proboscis monkey looking mofo. >
  
  This is a new sentence and I like it. >
  
  You can fight for our country while simultaneously fighting against our country. Amazing >
  
  Say goodbye to all that good will and good citizenship they’ve earned over brief careers. Now that their names are out there it’s basically game over. In military courts with evidence like this they’re already guilty. The question is only how severe the punishment will be. >
  
  I used to live in St Martin. Any time any navy ships came and sailors had shore leave, we’d always marvel at how they all looked like inbred pimply high school kids, and nothing like how sailors look in the movies.
  These three mugshots of marines just reinforce this idea to me. >
  
  I thought this was a plastic surgery before/during recovery/after timeline photo >
  
  Two years, and several days after the event.
  I mean, it's not like they kept their actions secret:
  
  As the three men traversed the building, they allegedly went into the Capitol rotunda, placed a red MAGA hat on one of the statues and took a photo with it.
  
  We know about this photo because they put it on their social media.
  What took them so long? >
  
  Marine Intelligence? I can tell you the problem right away >
  
  My word, what an oxymoron! >
  
  Does the UCMJ have a delineated punishment for engaging in insurrection against the US government or is this another one of those "let the judge decide the punishment" things? >
  
  Traitors have no place in my country at all, let alone in the military.