comment: >
  
  Just the title makes them sound guilty…
context: “One of [the officers] said he believed McClain had reached for a holstered gun.”
  They really need to stop with this bullshit. >
  
  Not to mention the implication that him reaching for a gun led them to have the paramedic give ketamine? Sure, cops are notoriously reasonable with armed people. It’s sad when his best defense to explain why they killed this kid was a scenario in which they 100% would have violently killed him. Nobody is buying that.
  Edit: Paramedic, not EMT >
  
  
  reaching for a gun led them to have the EMT give ketamine? 
  
  A super lethal dose of ketamine, no less. >
  
  Hi.. 22 year paramedic here.  This statement is a bit misleading.  
  Based on weight he should have gotten 320-350 mg.  He got  500mg.  The lethal dose is 4+ grams depending on the patients size so no... He didn't get a lethal dose of ketamine. 
  I've used Ketamine a number of times for patients in psych crisis to get them safely restrained.  We have options though.  My rule of thumb is "is restraining this patient going to put the patient myself or others at risk for injury?" If the answer is on that is "yes" they get the appropriate weight based dose for Ketamine.  I probably would have given him 350mg.
  If the answer is "no" and we can safely get them restrained and there's a risk of the patient injuring themselves in the restraints then a combination of Versed and Haldol is the choice to mildly sedate the patient to prevent injury.  
  Ketamine is an EXCELLENT drug with a lot of uses. We've expanded its use to aid in emergency intubation for a patient who is still alive and needs their airway managed.  I've seen complications from it twice in my five or so years using it. Once with the patient salivating a lot and the other with the patient going into respiratory arrest due to the other stuff he had on board.  That patient was safely managed and ended up being fine in the long run. I know this because our Ketamine usage is heavily monitored and reviewed.  Now this brings me to my next point: there are things that come along with Ketamine usage.  
  The first is safe restraining.  First, the patient is ALWAYS put on their back.  ALWAYS.  They can't be managed on their belly and as this recent case in Illinois shows us they also die on their bellies.  
  Also I should mention here that a lot of places require restraints when transporting a patient in psych crisis.  Psych patients change their minds during transport and they always seem to do it when you're one on one with them in the back of the truck. Murphy's Law I guess.  Also I really can't comment on the "committal" policies in Colorado but if I was the medic on this scene based on the body cam footage this guy would have been an easy decision to transport.  He's REALLY altered and incapable of making his own medical decisions.  
  Second they MUST be monitored.  Cardiac monitor, blood pressure, we typically put an airway in their nose (very non invasive) to keep their airway open and apply a device that monitors their respiratory rate and gas exchange.  That way if the patients condition starts to change it's recognized.  
  As a paramedic I'm very interested in this case.  My gut tells me that this patient was probably inadequately monitored and had the decompensating patient been recognized and corrected then we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. >
  
  He was forcibly restrained by cutting off the supply of blood to his brain and in handcuffs when injected. >
  
  Handcuffs is a last resort restraint for patient transport. A combination of softs and chemicals is ideal.  
  My post deals with the safety and efficacy of Ketamine and what I, with pure speculation, see as the probable actions that could have changed the outcome of this call. 
  People fight and frankly as a paramedic I'm also responsible for making sure that a person does not hurt themselves once restrained appropriately.  I can't tell you how many times before I worked in a system that utilized chemical restraints that I had to deal with people banging their heads on cabinets or the stretcher or pulling WAY too hard on restraints resulting in them leaving marks on themselves. >
  
  In this case, the person had already lost consciousness, was in handcuffs, had 5 officers holding him on the ground on his stomach while he plead with them and committed...
  How is Ketamine needed here, exactly? They didn't call the paramedics because he needed medical attention. They called paramedics to give Ketamine under the direction of an officer. The body cam footage shows an officer saying that they're planning to have Ketamine given to him because he was super strong and must be "on something." Even if you felt a person was "on something," should you give Ketamine to someone when you don't know what drug could be in their system? As a paramedic, do you think officer-directed Ketamine injections be given?
  I would urge you to watch the body cams and familiarize yourself with this dumpster fire. >
  
  First, when did I ever justify the actions of the paramedics?  Second, I HAVE watched the body cams.  Thanks.  I fully acknowledge that this is a dumpster fire.
  Second, law enforcement does not direct EMS when it comes to patient treatment.  I've had our medics called for sedation as well.  Once they arrive its the discretion of the paramedics as to how the chemical restraint of the patient will go.  That is no different here.  The paramedics chose the dose, it was too high for the patient, and they administered the dose.
  My point remains: This patient was NOT given a "lethal dose" of Ketamine.  Second, if you research ketamine one of the reasons that it is a GREAT choice as a drug in these cases is because it does not act as a respiratory depressant like other medications do.  Typically when that happens there is something else in play.
  As I stated in my original post:
  
  Second they MUST be monitored. Cardiac monitor, blood pressure, we typically put an airway in their nose (very non invasive) to keep their airway open and apply a device that monitors their respiratory rate and gas exchange. That way if the patients condition starts to change it's recognized.
  
  As I said, I'm paying close attention to this because my gut tells me that that they probably failed to adequately monitor this patient.  Had they done so, and had they recognized respiratory depression in the patient they could have easily treated it.  My speculation (again, pure speculation) is they missed it. >
  
  I appreciate your response! I really believe his monitoring was... less than stellar, to put it nicely. I've spent so much of my time (and university resources, another wonderful use of my tuition money) reading about ketamine in the last two days. From what I can tell, there really hasn't been a ton of research in what counts as a lethal dose and I don't believe there is a set plasma concentration of it that says definitively "this is toxic levels of ketamine" (like you can look at INR levels for definitive clotting data or creatinine clearance for kidney function or blood glucose levels for, well, blood glucose). Did you read the autopsy report? A lot of indication that there was significant oxygen deprivation to the brain and lungs, the coroner believes from the ketamine dose. (it's a long but worthy read, linked in the article but also here so you don't have to go looking). I curious on your thoughts based on that. >
  
  I have not a had a chance to peruse that yet.  Again that comes down to failure to monitor IMHO.
  Monitoring oxygen saturation and End Tidal capnography gives you a pretty clear picture of the respiratory cycle.  Now they stated they were going to put an end tidal on but again I'd love to see the report to see if that happened.
  hyp9eprcapnic before it became a serious problem and take steps to correct it. Failing to do so could certainly create those results.  That sort of thing doesn't just happen and can be corrected. >
  
  
  An amended autopsy report released by the county coroner in September 2022 revealed McClain had died from a ketamine injection after being forcibly restrained.
  
  Sounds a hell of a lot like murder to me. >
  
  I remember this episode, excited delirium is pure bullshit and news stations spout it constantly. What it is is murder >
  
  Can you provide some sources on excited delirium being bs? >
  
  His last words:
  "I can't breathe. I have my ID right here. My name is Elijah McClain. That's my house. I was just going home. I'm an introvert. I'm just different. That's all. I'm so sorry. I have no gun. I don't do that stuff. I don't do any fighting. Why are you attacking me? I don't even kill flies! I don't eat meat! But I don't judge people, I don't judge people who do eat meat. Forgive me. All I was trying to do was become better. I will do it. I will do anything. Sacrifice my identity, I'll do it. You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful and I love you. Try to forgive me. I'm a mood Gemini. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Ow, that really hurt! You are all very strong. Teamwork makes the dream work. [after vomiting] Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. I just can't breathe correctly."
  Fuck those cops and EMTs. >
  
  “I’m just different, that’s all.”
  Sadly those are fighting words to the sort of bullies and creeps who are all too often drawn to law enforcement. >
  
  I was in an abusive relationship that pushed me into a full mental health crisis while alone in my apartment. I called a suicide line to talk and they sent a wellness check on me. The first officer was a lady who was very nice and sympathetic and talked to me for about 45 minutes to bring me down. I calmed down completely but was a little shaken still and she asked if I would please allow the EMTs to transport me to the hospital for an overnight observation and I agreed. She called down that I was allowing transport.
  Two male officers who had been waiting outside came in to "escort me" downstairs. They cuffed and beat the absolute holy hell out of me, made a ton of trans slurs and insults towards me when they realize I was transgender, drug me out of the apartment weapons in hand, while other residents watched, and shoved me down the outside stairs onto the sidewalk and twisted my wrist. The EMTs and other officer (the woman) lost their shit and pled with them to fuck off but they didn't care. They even "forgot" to uncuff me even though I wasn't a danger and they didn't follow to the hospital. A doctor had to call the police department to send someone to take my cuffs off.
  I went from having an awful day and mental health crisis to one of the worst days of my life because of police abuse. >
  
  If only cops were that enthusiastic about saving kids from an active shooter as they are about beating up a transgender or killing a black man.. >
  
  Please don't say 'a transgender'. A trans person or a transgender person would be correct. >
  
  I’d like to think we should pick and choose our battles, this didn’t seem to be said with any I’ll intent other than to raise awareness about certain groups not being treated right. So yeah you are right but intonation and context are important too, and I’d rather someone accidentally word it wrong than intentionally cause harm which is a very real and serious issue transgender people are dealing with >
  
  Right, which is why I didn't call them a bigot. I just corrected them.  
  Would you be this virulent to someone who corrected a person who said 'a black'? Just because you have internalized transphobia is okay doesn't mean you can't think before you say something bigoted and insulting. >
  
  Understood. I think you misunderstand me but me having a conversation with you isn’t about one of us being right it’s just a personal opinion. I care very much so more about people harming these groups or any for that matter, over some words. 
  There is nothing wrong with correcting wording I just want to see more energy into what’s actually happening than words, but I guess it does have to start somewhere. >
  
  So you wouldn't be having this conversation if this was a black person correcting someone who said 'a black'? >
  
  Idk how you got me saying “you’re right” into this. Idk if you’re looking for a fight or what but I’m not gonna give it to you. 
  For both transgender people and black people I am far more concerned with them being harmed than with words. I even said the wording is a good start. So yeah idk what fight you’re looking for >
  
  Held a person down and involuntarily injected them with medication for non-medical reasons... Subsequently overdosing and killing them.
  Drug dealers have been convicted for manslaughter for selling the drugs that kill their customers.  How is this any different? >
  
  Drug dealers at least care somewhat that their clients don't overdose immediately for profit reasons.... >
  
  That is absolutely not the case. Nobody knowingly buys from the guy that will kill you. It means your drugs are bad. >
  
  Three police body cams fell onto the grass. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore. 
  Elijah McClain NY Times article. >
  
  That baby even told them he loved them and they still killed him. This makes me physically ill. >
  
  This. As a mother of a son the same age as Elijah, who has been in and out of therapy since age 5 for being introverted, this makes my blood boil and physically sickens me at the same time. >
  
  It terrifies me too because I'm also "different," as he put it. I have pretty severe social anxiety, and I sometimes respond to people in weird ways, especially when stressed. I hope I never have to actually deal with police. 
  This is so inexcusable... my blood is also boiling but my heart is also aching for his family. No parent should have to bury their child. This was so senseless. >
  
  I hope to the stars you never have to deal with anything like this and that someone would step in if you did. I just don’t understand how anyone could treat people with such disrespect as human beings. ❤️
  It is inexcusable and it hurts my heart. >
  
  Thankfully I have an amazing husband that would definitely go to the mat for me if he saw me in trouble! The world needs a lot more love, that's for sure. ❤ >
  
  Paramedic here. I still don't understand why he was given Ketamine. We only use that if a person is having a psychological emergency posing harm to themselves or others only if verbal deescalation doesn't work. Even if he was having a psych breakdown, restrains only should be for limbs. One should NEVER be placed on a rear naked choke. These assholes need to be charged to the fullest extent. >
  
  Because the cops told them to most likely. We got plenty of dipshits in this profession, just like any other.
  That being said I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t the ketamine and was instead positional asphyxia. Although they did give him like 4x the regular dose, again, because they’re idiots.
  I’m glad to see the EMS community isn’t circling the wagons to protect these fuckers though, everyone I’ve talked to has said “yeah, fuck ‘em” >
  
  I don’t think the dose was completely outrageous. It comes out to about 8 mg/kg which yes is high but not a your going to die dose IM. I’m in the this is a clear cut example of at the best incompetence and at the worst straight up murder for not providing care. I’ve had to use doses like that for DSI IV for some patients that wouldn’t go down(with med control of course). You don’t just give a dose like that and leave them in handcuffs and it 100% required airway management that it seems they failed to perform. >
  
  The words he said scares me. I’m also socially “different” and have had a lot of people treat me with suspicion or disdain because of it. It’s my worst fear to get into a confrontation with police or authority because when I get nervous I act sketchy, I never make eye contact, I tend to rock when overwhelmed. I don’t need to be hospitalized for any of that, but I’ve had authority restrain me because of it and it was terrifying. Except those people were “on my side,” I can’t imagine the Terror he felt. >
  
  Didn't these fools return later to the scene and make a joke of it? >
  
  The officers did...And took pictures of them making fun of his death as well. They killed a young man who was posing no threat to them or anyone else, and then made jokes about it. I wonder how many of them will try to claim PTSD from the event and collect disability checks... >
  
  This could get really ugly if a Not Guilty verdict results from this. >
  
  Push any group against a wall long enough… >
  
  Push any group to the edge of the fucking world honestly. This has gone way further than it ever should have because of the social ramifications of fighting back >
  
  What's outrageous is that police tell EMTs to administer a drug. It's not a medical need it's chemical handcuffs. >
  
  My medic partner and I once responded to a call after being requested by PD. We get there and they have an intoxicated gentleman in the back of their cruiser and things have clearly escalated into an absolute shitshow, both PD and the gentleman are screaming at each other. We get out of the ambulance and immediately the officer goes, "ketamine him." Nope, absolutely not, we are not doing that. After my medic partner explains that there is no way that this person meets medical criteria for ketamine the officer goes "I know Dr "so and so" (our medical director), I'll call him myself and get orders for you." No, we're still not doing that. Let's de-escalate instead. 
  Another officer arrived on scene as we were attempting to figure out what was actually going on, and apparently had previous contact with the guy and had already built up some trust and rapport, and he was able to calm the guy down, de-escalate, let us figure out that there was definitely a mental health crisis happening and what triggered it, and helped convince him to let us help him. He went with us to the hospital and no one got hurt.
  But fuck that first cop man. I take orders from no police officer, I'm medical. I'll help you, but I'm here for the patient and their best needs and don't ever forget that because I won't. >
  
  Is there a danger that they might go back to lobotomising people like this?
  I mean, they lobotomised JFK’s sister because she liked boys and makeup, so I dread to think what they might do to people who are not important.
  And what the blazes is ketamine? This is the first time I’ve heard of cops drugging people up.
  Disclaimer: Not American. >
  
  No, lmao. >
  
  HE PLAYED HIS VIOLIN FOR SHELTER ANIMALS!   
  Fuck everyone involved in Elijahs death. I hope they hear his pleading and cries every night. Maybe they can save the taxpayers some money and take responsibility for their actions. >
  
  They are all murderers of an innocent kid. Shameful lying pieces of shit that think they are above the law. >
  
  Are they allowed to tranq someone like that in the first place? And Ketamine?
  They need to nail these sorry fucks to the wall. >
  
  It's a very common sedative in the prehospital setting and actually incredibly safe because it doesn't cause respiratory depression like other drugs do. >
  
  Incredibly safe...
  ...on an article about a high profile death from its use.
  Hang on, I'm gonna go talk to my ket using friends that it's actually super safe an awesome to forcibly object it into anyone without knowing or asking about their medical history. Who cares about potential complications? Roll the dice, it ain't your life, just the life of the person you're pinning down and forcing it into! >
  
  The paramedics were absolutely criminally negligent and should be charged, but the sudden switch to "it was the ketamine, not the knee to the throat that killed him!" reads a lot like the coroner protecting the police to me. The dose of ketamine given was well within the safe therapeutic window of the drug (though was a higher dose than allowed by the paramedics' protocols), ketamine does not typically cause respiratory issues, and when it does it does not cause the agonal respirations in the video or the coroner's report. >
  
  Ketamine can cause cardiac complications rarely in large doses but this reads like a classic case of positional asphyxia that the cops are trying to obfuscate.
  That being said the paramedics absolutely failed to do the number one thing they teach us all in EMT school: scene size up. They arrived on scene and jumped straight to do what the cops told them to do, without assessing for themselves. >
  
  Also monitoring ABC's. I was going to say "after sedation" but no, just monitor the dang ABC's regardless. That's the first thing they teach you in the most basic first aid classes, you'd think 2 paramedics would know >
  
  Neurodivergents being murdered for being different. Fuck America >
  
  I fucking hate everyone involved in this. I hope they rot in prison and hell if it exists. >
  
  In every way this story shows police have too much power. They can stop someone in the street, force them to stop, then shoot them up with a lethal dose of drugs all for no reason. Then lie about it. >
  
  And the only reason they detained him because someone called the cops on him because he was wearing a ski mask in a store. >
  
  5 police officers and a medic... They had handcuffs and dissassociative injectible drugs.
  VS
  An unarmed young man that looks 100lbs wet. 
  Of course he didn't want to be grabbed, police have a bad habit of killing young men of color when they are detained for NO REASON. >
  
  It’s sobering to know that any person in that country is at all times of the day mere moments from being murdered for no reason whatsoever :-(
  Why do the people in that country hate themselves so much? It’s very depressing.
  Disclaimer: Obviously not American. >
  
  
  Why do the people in that country
  
  Because the majority of the country is a very nice place to live as long you remember what places to stay away from.
  There's also lot more freedoms here than other countries.
  Another reason is that the average person doesn't want to go through the paperwork hassle of moving to another country. Moving isn't fast and it sure isn't cheap. Plus where ever you're moving to better have a job for you or you'll end up worse off than before. >
  
  In this case the places to stay away from are places with police which is everywhere. This isn't some street gang that killed someone or a guy that was mugged in the bad part of town. This was a guy who bought some tea and was heading home before being grabbed by police and killed. >
  
  i am appalled at the amount of people who watched the body cams and still think the cops were in the right because he wasn't complying. i have been stopped by cops dozens of times on the grounds of suspicion, i've even kept walking and laughed at them thinking they were joking... and yet never once has a cop put his hands on me immediately as he stopped me. and what they were saying, acting like he was on drugs, made it seem like just excuses. >
  
  Read and reread this article.  Why the fuck was a former police officer involved with this?  It doesn't say he retired after.  Did he get his kill quota and leave?  Why were paramedics there?  Sounds like the assailants called in help in the form of their paramedic buddies to help kill McClain.  This all happened 3 years ago, and I don't recall reading of it until now. >
  
  Should name each officers and EMTs involved.
  How long will it take for you americans to act on this? >
  
  Forever.
  Police are part of the Executive branch of the government.  They protect the wealthy and powerful from those who are not.  Those with wealth and power have no motivation to promote change, so nothing changes.  Only a very few (<10, tops) wealthy people actually care about non-wealthy people (if that).
  Moreover, any time something goes sideways for a cop, their "brother" police 'build the blue wall' to eliminate any possibility of facts being discovered that would show the world what cops are actually like, and what they actually do.  They all conspire to protect evil cops, because they're "one of their own."  All cops are complicit in this horrendous behavior (except, perhaps, new cops). >
  
  New cops are just as bastards as seasoned officers. Going into a job knowing it is a shit show that fucks over individual rights to defend businesses and fragile egos makes you complicit in the behavior that makes up the organization as a whole. 
  Never met a person who became a cop who wasn’t a dickhead before they started academy. >
  
  The police academy just puts a finer point on the dickhead. >
  
  Let them all get 40 years >
  
  This was a murder. Unjustified and senseless. >
  
  not guilty, I think you meant. >
  
  This is just incredibly........sad. My heart breaks for you Elijah, we as a society failed you. I feel deep shame as a human. The US has many great qualities and I always had an admiration in their founding principles but I feel like the news is heavily turning it into an alien world to me. These deaths being used to further divide rather than drive positive change is the saddest part. Not even in death can we say we did something meaningful... >
  
  Straight up murder.  Their custodial responsibility miserably ignored, and straight murdered the man. >
  
  Such a horrifying nightmare. Directly something out of an on the nose thriller. This should in no way be allowed. >
  
  Good thing policing is a licensed profession; otherwise these officers could just get jobs on another police force. 
  Oh wait. >
  
  Are cops never not gigantic pieces of shit? >
  
  They always are; because any apple that doesn't rot either stops being a cop, or stops being alive.
  And whether you get Serpico'd, Schoolcraft'd or Suiter'd is at the whim of the blue line. >
  
  Just another day Piggin’ >
  
  Cops and medics are trained on positional asphyxia. Adding Ketamine was almost guaranteeing his death. It seems like a pretty straight forward negligent manslaughter case. >
  
  They need to rot in prison. >
  
  They better get charged for murder. >
  
  So sad. To hear the audio of Elijah made me cry. And "not guilty" is way beyond what any of those officers should be pleading. What a disgrace. 😢 >
  
  I hope everyone one of them rots in jail and then in hell. Fuck em all for murdering that young man. >
  
  Injected with Ketamine? Seriously? Injecting people with horse tranquilizers is something police do now? >
  
  It's given to people in emergency settings because it's a dissociative. If you're trying to work on someone who is in a fuck ton of pain it will calm them to the point you can extract them or work on them further. They'll scream bloody murder sometimes while being moved but they won't remember it. It genuinely has it's uses, but this situation did not call for fuckin' ketamine. Pretty sure you have to have an actual medical degree in England to use it in the field. (More than willing to be proven wrong on that last part, just fyi) 
  Got lots of family in the military and my one cousin got an I.O. in the back of a helicopter and fell in love with ketamine, got another cousin who said it was the worst experience of his life. Point being, it's not something to be toyed with in a medical setting, let alone a physical altercation. >
  
  Not to mention 500 mg is the entire vial and 10-20x what a kid his size would need if it was indicated. Disgusting >
  
  The IM dissociative dose is commonly in the 2-4mg/kg range. Elijah absolutely didn't need 500mg, but if it were truly indicated the dose would on the lower range be 1/5th, not anywhere near 1/10th or 1/20th. >
  
  Many of these events are a matter of a cop or two “going rogue” and acting outside of their training…  usually by some latent racism motive or more often just the rampant “respect my auth-or-i-tay” thing that spirals out of control in so many of these cases.
  But this is something so profoundly different.  Yes, this started with a clearly illegal and unconstitutional detention of a person known to be innocent.  But this is something else entirely, this is a system of police leaders, doctors, state boards, possibly the legislature, paramedics, and by extension their medical directors, that it appears were acting in deliberate concert.  No paramedic can simply inject ketamine into a “suspect” on behalf of a law enforcement agent unless that paramedic’s medical director has approved that procedure in writing, that LE agency approved that procedure in writing, and most likely, that state’s laws were amended to allow this.  A lot of people conspired with intention in order to create this situation.  And almost none of them will ever be held accountable.
  In the end the cops and the paramedics will be in court, and the people who actually deliberately created this situation will wash their hands of it. >
  
  fuck those cops and emts for killing that innocent boy who spent time playing the violin for kittens and could in no way be construed as a threat.  literally still sick over this murder. >
  
  This is the first story I've ever heard where the cops injected someone with a drug - an extremely potent drug used to sedate zoo animals. What they did to this young man for no reason was torture pure and simple. >
  
  Police didnt, the EMS crews did.
  Its a commonly used sedative in the prehospital setting, used the world over. >
  
  They killed him because he didn’t obey their commands. Let that sink in. >
  
  The cops will be fine. >
  
  This one always makes me wanna cry, he was so harmless >
  
  Fuck this "after he was injected" passive voice bullshit. Like the needle walked up and jabbed him on its own. Always happens with cops killing people in headlines and it changes the perception the event. >
  
  Forgive my ignorance, but aren't paramedics equipped with other medications to counter act over doses? Narcan or something? >
  
  Their supposed intention was to sedate him with the ketamine. There was no overdose before that. >
  
  I never said there was, but logically, if they had a medication that could've counter acted the ketamine (which I now know there wasn't) and the paramedics overdosed him, there would be more issues at hand than were already brought to light, since they could've done something (which they couldn't) and didn't. Which is what I'm getting at >
  
  In their minds he was just guilty for being black. >
  
  From what I've read, their intent was to murder. There was no other intention here. Just kill the guy. >
  
  Sounds like all 5 need to be found guilty of murder >
  
  Wtf is up with 5 mother fucking cops today holy shit. 5 people is an orgy. 5 cops is apparently a lynch mob >
  
  This is so sad. I hope there will be justice. >
  
  Fuck Aurora PD, Denver PD, and Loveland PD. Fuck Jefferson & Adam’s county sheriff’s offices too. I’ve talked to and dealt with some good troopers in CO but I’m sure they’ve got plenty of bad ones there too. The system is tainted nationwide. From small departments like Uvdale to large departments like Denver/Aurora. >
  
  Arrested, no charges ever filed....so they killed him because they could?    This sure sounds like  a George Floyd repeat - hope they all end up like the defendents in that case - Guilty and in JAIL >
  
  These animals have the audacity to plead not guilty? What the ….!? >
  
  If justice is not given, justice will be taken. >
  
  They should all pay with lengthy jail sentences for killing that poor boy. The story of this young man’s death broke my heart and put a fear in me I never knew. 
  I have a 24 year old son on the spectrum, and when he gets nervous or afraid he stutters or blocks completely. After this incident (and the constant stories or police killing Black men), he decided he is never going to learn to drive a car, because if he was ever pulled over and couldn’t communicate, he could very well die. When I listened to the recordings of Elijah McClain’s interaction with officers that night, I cried and cried. All I could hear was my sweet son….and now I have a fear for my son that was never there before….Put them UNDER the fckn jail. >
  
  Since they didn't care why should they feel sorry and plead guilty?  The state will protect them because they are first responder. >
  
  Let’s call it what it was, a lynching. If heaven exists, these people won’t see a ray of that light. Rest in power. >
  
  I don’t understand how cops can order a medical professional to inject medicine. Is an officer a doctor now? >
  
  pieces of shit need to rot >
  
  This is horrifying. A life needlessly and violently ended because of inappropriate police tactics. Again. >
  
  Stories like this make me want to say things that'll get me in trouble for rule breaking, what absolutely horrendous monsters these people are. >
  
  We need a fucking National emergency at this point. Jesus Christ it’s so bad it would actually be better to have the military handle policing until we can remove every last fucking cop, create a totally new vetting, hiring, and management system, and then hire all new people who have to go in fresh. Maybe allow reapplication but only if we actually have very detailed records that prove no infractions or issues. Even then I’d say sorry but no one gets rehired. This isn’t a job to fuck around with and enough is enough we need to totally restart. Even if it means giving every current cop a settlement or something it’s better than continuing this current system. It’s just too much guys we either need to scrap it or start standing against cops. Sorry I hate to say that but fuck man they’re just a gang, just a huge gang. Our soldiers in charge of them and require every cop to be superb. Something, anything but what we’re doing now…. >
  
  Life in the federal pen for all of them. >
  
  Cops are the enemy of the people. Prove me wrong. >
  
  What a fuckin heart breaking story. When the hell did they start shooting people up with ketamine?? I mean we used to do a lot of that shit back in the rave days but other then that I only ever heard of people using it in float tanks and mental therapy. Shooting it into someone not knowing their medical history is pretty nuts. >
  
  It’s an extremely safe prehospital drug. Giving it to a kid who was being choked extensively and then not monitoring him was the problem here. >
  
  I’d be willing to bet within this year we will start seeing police who got away with shit being executed on the street. Can’t say I’d feel bad, it feels inevitable