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  Solar, wind, EVs....
context: That doesn't work in many red states. Where you have to pay higher taxes for owning an EV, solar, wind... >
  
  I just tested in my red state and it worked great. 
  Reel in the pessimism man, this is a good thing. >
  
  Neither of those links support the claim that the website I linked doesn't work in red states. >
  
  
  The fees alone add about $9,000 to the total price tag over the lifetime of an average 5-kilowatt system, costing residents about half the savings they should expect from shifting to solar.
  
  There's no time left for this crap. We need to be to a point where coal and oil are only allowed by permit only. And very quickly. The world temperature has not dropped below average for 456 consecutive months. >
  
  Why can't a good thing ever just be a good thing? For christ sake, the site I linked to is literally just a way to check what rebates are available. The doom and gloom response is not at all warranted. 
  Doing something positive is infinitely better than doing nothing. Always. >
  
  It's nothing more than a false narrative. A salve for a gunshot wound. Passing the buck to the consumer. A tactic that has been a go-to for the fossil fuel industry for several years. 
  What have you got against Biden signing an executive order declaring a climate emergency? He could have it done by lunchtime tomorrow. Severe weather damage costs for the U.S. topped $300b in the past two years alone. And even more heat is on the way with this Summer's El-Niño. The emergency is as clear as can be. >
  
  I've got nothing against biden declaring a climate emergency. 
  I also realize the rebates and bonuses and subsidies mentioned in this article are much more than a "false narrative". >
  
  if it is broke not fixing it. who has any free money. Putting food on the table and bill is tough enough. >
  
  true. To get the tax credit you have to install all the green items. who has that kind of coin? Most  Americans do not have a $1000  for an emergency. 
  I looked into putting solar panels on my house. They wanted 20 grand up front.  Tax credit when you file and it does not cover everything . No matter what it is not free. Sure eventually it will pay for itself in 10 to 15 yrs. 
  So if you got a better way, please share. How much did it cost you to convert your home or how much more to the cost of your new home.? If can show me how to do it free....I am there tomorrow to call the contractors. >
  
  Destroying the environment to own the libs.. >
  
  I'm not against this but this really needs massive investment  from a top down approach or it simply become like plastic "recycling" where it's  a feel god narrative that simply doesn't  happen the way it's  sold to public. Preferably government investments for renewables that is owned and retained by the state
  Tax credits  are fine but a rebate is better. As for roof solar it's  good but the problem  of renters ending up paying higher costs in the long run is real problem  while the subsidize the landlords investment because you know the won't  be passing any money  back the renter when electricity prices rise due to the infrastructure  overhaul.
  I suppose my problem is not that people  who can afford the outlay getting money back but that whole sections of society who can't  will be hit hardest. 
  It's  a step but not the total solution. >
  
  Most people cannot afford renewables. They're still not much different than collector's items. The only solution is mass production of renewables. That means Biden must officially declare a climate emergency. Then enact the Defense Production Act and/or the War Powers Act. Something he should have done his first week in office. >
  
  Wh.. what exactly are you defining as "renewables"?