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  If there's nothing else added, in what sense are they not the artist, BagHo?
context: Most people have no idea what goes into music. These labels like "artist", "performer" and "producer", are so abused, misused and misunderstood that any conversation like this is pointless. 
  You need 3 things to have a great recording. 
  
  Someone needs to write great music.
  Someone needs to perform it well.
  Someone (usually multiple people) needs to know how to capture it well on a recording.
  
  Sometimes 1 person does all 3, other times you might have up to 20 people contributing on all 3.   The recording, mixing and mastering process is the most labour intensive.. But either way, for you to find great music, all those things have to happen. >
  
  Without the artist the song is sometimes better. Someone doesn't know what an artist is. >
  
  I think that’s you. I’m talking about a musical sense, clearly you’re being a fool. I mean the singer or rapper I didn’t want to type out both okay. >
  
  If you don't have an artist, there's nothing for the producer to work with. You're really into silent tracks? >
  
  A producer that makes beats? Without the artist? Those don’t exist, Penile?