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context: The way she treated the whistleblowers is what I found most despicable. 
  Not only did she lie to patients, she along with Sunny, actively did everything in their path to silence the engineers who wanted to expose the truth. Because it was going to get people killed . To the point of allegedly driving one guy to suicide. 
  It didn't show a young entrepreneur struggling to navigate a company valued in the billions succumbing to pressure. It showed a person shrouded in vanity willing to do anything to protect her wealth and status. >
  
  She also bullied one of the scientists who called her out into committing suicide, smfh >
  
  And his wife had to physically go to Theranos alone to pick up his box of belongings and no one came out to acknowledge her or offer a kind word, certainly not the Manson-eyed straw-haired grifter Holmes, she of the blood shot eyes. GREEN JUICE! >
  
  
  “Holmes booked an international flight to Mexico departing on January 26, 2022, without a scheduled return trip,” the document from prosecutors, filed Thursday, said. It was only after government prosecutors contacted Holmes’ legal team about the “unauthorized flight” that the trip was cancelled.
  
  Why wouldn't she have made it a round-trip to at least give the appearance that she wasn't trying to flee? I'm guessing because she thought she was above it all and could just go to Mexico to likely catch a connecting flight to somewhere w/o an extradition treaty with the US and that would be that. >
  
  I'm no expert on evasion, but did she book a plain old commercial ticket? With her money/connections you'd think she'd be a little more crafty and book a private plane under someone else's name at least. >
  
  Or a boat. >
  
  Or a car?? You can literally drive into Mexico without a passport or driver's license >
  
  Wait, what? Then why the hell do I need a passport or enhanced driver’s license to cross into Canada? >
  
  Lol, because you may stay and steal Canadian jobs, and live from the goverment, using the social services. The US never sends their best, let's build a wall, etc. >
  
  I've seen your housing prices and I'm not impressed. I'm coming to steal poutine. >
  
  As long as they don't get me for first degree moosenapping >
  
  Canadian police don’t get you for that. They stand back and let the moose do it himself. >
  
  One last shot from half court, I guess >
  
  You miss 100% of the shots you don't take
  to country's with no extradition laws. >
  
  ‘She was trying to get a flight to Venezuela. No idea why she was trying to go there.’
  ‘Really? No idea? We have no extradition treaty with Venezuela.’
  ‘Oh. So what should we do then?’
  ‘Get her on the first flight to Venezuela.’ >
  
  Fucking love that movie.
  So what did we learn? >
  
  ‘I guess we learned not to do that again. Fuck if I know what we did.’ >
  
  So I watched this movie with family and on the first viewing we thought it was pretty boring. 
  Every scene with them in it was great…But this line right here: Just made us bust out in tears. Like we couldn’t breathe at all.  I swear it was his delivery. >
  
  Like a lot of Coen brothers comedies, it really is better upon subsequent viewings once the absurdity of the tension has been revealed. >
  
  What movie? >
  
  "Does that have shellfood in it?" >
  
  She should be remanded to prison now.
  She can have the baby there like other federal inmates do >
  
  She is a stone cold sociopath. I'm certain her pregnancies were motivated more as a way to soften her image in the eyes of a jury and judge than they were from a desire to be a mother. >
  
  That’s exactly the case, and there’s no question about it. >
  
  I didn’t watch any trials or anything, but wonder if she went from deep, authoritative voice to meek, soft voice for the jury? >
  
  She did that before the trial. And changed her whole image from the black turtle neck, straight hair, stark image. To soft curls, dewy make up, and pastel dresses. >
  
  
  She did that before the trial. And changed her whole image from the black turtle neck, straight hair, stark image. To soft curls, dewy make up, and pastel dresses.
  
  Did she actually drop the fake deep voice for the trial? I hadn't heard that. Last I had heard people still hadn't 100% confirmed she was faking it even thought literally everyone who heard her speak could tell. >
  
  Please tell me this is edited in some way. I have followed the case and didn't realize the shift was that overwhelming. >
  
  That’s real when she was neck deep in her grift. People who worked at Theranos said one day she walked into work and started speaking in that deep voice like she always had and acted like it was totally normal. >
  
  I had always thought she put on the deep voice from the very start and that’s why people just accepted it, I didn’t know she put it on after Theranos had already been founded. That’s even more bizarre that she thought she could get away with doing that >
  
  That she could get away with… talking in a weird voice? I mean, yeah, it’s weird, but what is anyone going to do? Force her to speak in her normal voice? How? Lol >
  
  What did she think was going to happen when she shows up to Mexico without a passport? >
  
  CIA informs the cartels of a juicy ransom opportunity >
  
  The CIA is not a law enforcement agency. They don't arrest criminals. 
  If anything, they would make use of her somehow. >
  
  On what planet is hypothetical (and obviously joking) collaboration with a drug cartel considered a "law enforcement" activity? The r/whoosh is strong with you. Lordy. >
  
  No man, I mean using resources to catch her is not in the CIA's scope of responsibilities. >
  
  Neither is selling cocaine in minority neighborhoods, but it still happened! Crazy, right!? >
  
  They even went further than that 🤦🏼‍♂️ >
  
  We are about to get a sequel to the movie. >
  
  6 seasons and a movie >
  
  “She has strong ties to her partner and family, including her son and soon-to-be-born child, that incentivize her to comply with her conditions of release,” the motion said.
  Yeah her totally not for leniency "Family" that she formed after being arrested and put on trial. >
  
  The woman is just evil.  I feel terrible for her kids, they don’t deserve this.  It’s proven once again “every child deserves parents but not every parent deserves a child.” >
  
  Her partner is handsome and rich, why even have kids with this woman? 
  Seems all planned to try to get a lighter sentence. >
  
  His family reportedly begged him not to marry her. >
  
  That's fucking tragic >
  
  Fuck this woman. She deserves all her time in prison and more. Remember that her product gave patients the wrong diagnosis which prob caused adverse mental and health effects for them. She’s scum. >
  
  Hope nobody died because if her con >
  
  An employee killed themselves during it. >
  
  Ian Gibbons. >
  
  What she did to Ian in a perfect world would have an additional sentence. It was entirely criminal. She put him in a situation where if he lied he would go to jail and if he didn't lie he would be sued up the ass by her company. All because she wanted her name on some patents but didn't do the work. >
  
  Another reason she shoulda been walked into a cell the moment the gavel knocked.  Her privilege through this is just vomit inducing. >
  
  
  Mexico
  
  Mexico has an extradition treaty with US. >
  
  Most likely a first step. Then take another flight or car to another country and hop til she gets to one that didn’t. >
  
  Most that don't have an extradition treaty with US are mostly in Asia/Middle East. (China, Russia, Ukraine, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Brazil etc) 
  But again, if the US wants you, it can get you. Hushpuppi was in UAE, a country with no extradition treaty with the US but he was still extradited. >
  
  What about Snowden? I think America really really wants him. >
  
  He is permanently domiciled in Russia. The only place he can go is China, North Korea or Iran. Not sure enjoys that >
  
  Better than jail >
  
  He is effectively in an open air jail >
  
  They probably would put him in ADX tho. Russia completely sucks and I never want to visit but Id easily pick living the rest of my life there over ADX. >
  
  Yeah a life sentence at ADX Florence is cruel and unusual torture. Plain and simple. >
  
  Only the most innocent people try to flee their country at times of peace. >
  
  Narcisists gonna narcissist. >
  
  We were supposed to believe this woman was smart enough to revolutionize blood testing when she couldn't even figure out to drive to Mexico. >
  
  Ergo, the difference between book smarts and street smarts. >
  
  But she doesn't have book smarts either. >
  
  They were waaaay to lenient due to the pregnancy. What stupid judge was like ok, we'll wait until your ready to goto jail? How does 2035-2045 sound? >
  
  I was wondering why she was not in jail? She was sentenced. Typically you do not get to go home. >
  
  Typically YOU do not get to go home. This is someone with money, you fool. >
  
  It’s funny that it’s even possible for her to leave the country after a conviction and there are people in jails for months to years without one. >
  
  Why is this girl not in prison already? everyone else is taken into custody at the time of conviction >
  
  In Federal criminal (non-violent) cases, the defendant has about 30 days after sentencing to turn themselves in to their assigned facility. 
  You can take the Federal Marshal’s prison transport bus, known as “diesel therapy” but you can just show up on the date indicated by the court. 
  You can fly, or have someone drive you. It’s known as self surrender. 
  Not showing up, not being there on time, or arriving intoxicated is not advised. >
  
  Maybe stop giving billionaires fucking sweetheart deals.  Another woman wanted what’s best for her kid and is spending 20 years in prison for it.
  This fuck should immediately get the maximum possible sentence >
  
  She got pregnant as part of her scam to flee.  She is a sociopath. >
  
  Yes. Because she’s a psychopath, a female psychopath, they exist. The woman feels nothing for her crimes, and in her mind is the victim >
  
  I am still disgusted she chose to have children and put them through this shit. What a complete psychopath. >
  
  Next she will show up in court with prosthetic wrinkles, a walker and a terminal diagnosis. She has attempted every other legal gimmick that usually works for wealthy white people.
  Unfortunately for her, she messed with OTHER wealthy white people. They own the courts so they always get their pound of flesh. >
  
  
  The prosecution ... said “There are not two systems of justice — one for the wealthy and one for the poor — there is one criminal justice system in this country..."
  
  Irony, it seems, is not dead, just convulsing in laughter. >
  
  Hopefully she can use all those "girl boss" skills in prison to corner the canteen commodities. >
  
  Maybe they'll give her an orange turtleneck. >
  
  How is it that she can imagine herself booking a flight without it being known before departure? I can only guess tunnel vision based in privilege. >
  
  Yeah if you're trying to slip out of the country don't try and do it on one of the most heavily monitored forms of transit. >
  
  Refuge in audacity. Nobody expects a move so bold and stupid, making it the smart move. >
  
  Why is she still out of prison ? (Real question) >
  
  Lol not today thief! Hopefully that deep voice will make you lots of friends in prison. >
  
  There’s just nothing good about her is there? >
  
  I wanna see the invitation for the wedding supposedly in Mexico >
  
  Dumb, you're supposed to flee right away and use your ill-gotten gains for plastic surgery and a new identity in another country. >
  
  Looking for that Holme-court advantage >
  
  Years ago I called her a sociopath and was downvoted and inbox harassed into oblivion.
  Edit: for all the kids blasting me with their bullshit let me add some clarity. At the time theranos was the new big thing and everyone thought she was some amazing prodigy. I’m not bragging, just pointing out how quick we are fanboys and get played sometimes. >
  
  I was skeptical of Theranos from the beginning, simply because the blood amount they were asking for was way too small to be running the amount of tests Theranos claimed their machine was running on a sample. The fact that Elizabeth Holmes continued to push her machine despite this made me sour on her as well. >
  
  the separate but evil legal system >
  
  My sleepy brain was like why are these Feds talking about a fictional Netflix character.     
  Time for some coffee I guess. >
  
  Do you reckon she will join the bloods in jail? >
  
  My money is on neo-nazis >
  
  I'm out of the loop. When does she have to report for prison?  I know she's pregnant. Are they allowing her to remain outside until she gives birth? >
  
  They didnt reveal the due date but pushed her start date to April to give her time to bond. Quick google search says you can get pregnant again in as little as 3 weeks after giving birth so the way she timed kid #1 and kid #2 i have no doubt she will try for kid #3 if the timing lines up for her to try and further delay her sentence. >
  
  Why is she given the luxury of waiting??? >
  
  I mean the child deserves a safe birth.  It's definitely a dick move on her part though. >
  
  Agreed.  But why does she get such accommodations when I’ve heard women in prisons have it pretty tough when giving birth. >
  
  Rich white people life! >
  
  I don’t know how her husband married her after knowing everything about her and how much of a scum bag she is. It’s lot like she’s winning beauty pageants either.  Must secretly have a lot of cash stashed or something >
  
  Good luck getting out early on parole if you’re a proven flight risk. >
  
  If she was really smart, she would have fled to some hideaway  with the cash just before her crimes were discovered.  Trying to escape now when the all the resources of the Federal Government can be applied to track her movements was rather pathetic. >
  
  Like all before her she is convinced of her superiority and ability to outsmart everyone. >
  
  Isn't she gonna have another baby soon? Isn't she supposed to be serving time soon as well? Where does she think she's going? >
  
  Mark Zuckerberg now wears a blond wig? >
  
  Her and Jen Shah are gonna have so much fun hanging out together in prison >
  
  On the bright side, she gets a break from cooking in the kitchen while she does her time. >
  
  Every person who has accumulated a fortune should be assumed a flight risk. Even if they lost it all, they’ll have at least one wealthy, powerful friend. >
  
  Whelp say bye bye to leanancy. >
  
  She’s still not in jail so still lenient >
  
  No surprises here. She is a stone cold egotistical bitch. Simple as that. Glad they got her ass.
  But then the Republicans can get her to run for a House seat. She is right up their fucking alley. >
  
  Her eyes are hella empty. >
  
  She should start a GOP funded “tamper proof” voting machine corp… they’d love her…, she’d fit right in… rich crook who got wealthy conning people… >
  
  She made the ultimate mistake, she fucked with rich people's money. >
  
  Dont sell her short. She also misled a lot of patients and provided them faulty medical data. She isnt on the hook just for stealing rich people money >
  
  
  She isnt on the hook just for stealing rich people money
  
  Oh yes she was:
  
  After more than 50 hours of deliberations over seven days, the jury of eight men and four women convicted Holmes of three counts of wire fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud for lying to investors about devices developed by Theranos, the once high-flying biotech company that she started at the age of 19.  
  The jury found Holmes not guilty on four other fraud-related charges connected to allegations that she duped patients who received false or faulty results from tests conducted by Theranos, which collapsed in 2018.
  
  She did not get convicted for defrauding/potentially killing customers. She was convicted for lying to her investors, some of the most powerful people in this Country. The Waltons (Wal-Mart), The Murdochs (Family that owns half the news in any country) and Former State Officials like Henry Kissinger.
  You do NOT screw with those people, and she did. She is the epitome of fucking around and finding out. >
  
  Her ex-boyfriend, Sunny Balwani, was convicted of defrauding patients, though. He was convicted on multiple counts. My theory is the pregnancy worked and made her more sympathetic with the jury. Every jury is different. There was no legit reason Balwani was defrauding patients and she wasn't. >
  
  It was because he directly oversaw the lab and reported to her. Her lawyers argued she was unaware that problems in the lab put patients in harm’s way. 🙄 >
  
  Which is of course preposterous. >
  
  Lock this hag up now! She gets extra special treatment bc she is pregnant and needs to bind with her baby! I am past whatever is past livid. How many poor women were forced to deliver while in custody and had their babies removed to foster care.
  I know you his isn’t a new feeling or news to anyone but every time this pudding faced cotton swab pops up I get mad all over again. >
  
  She should wear a Darth Vader mask and use her man-voice to hide. >
  
  I'd like to send her a new Orange Turtleneck and Orange Jumper... >
  
  Always buy the return trip. >
  
  "Miles Bron is an idiot" >
  
  Of course she did, figured she could lie and bullshit her way out, then flee to another country when that didn't work. >
  
  Would Mexico not extradite here or something? >
  
  When you want to try to flee from a case, ya make sure to book a round trip ticket then just don’t get on the return flight. >
  
  But did she also book a flight for her kids? >
  
  Oh shit, that’s a great question. >
  
  If she was going to leave she wasn't trying very hard. All she had to do was drive across the southern or northern border go to the nearest airport and fly off to wherever she wanted. >
  
  pretty girls dont fly >
  
  Throw her made up ass in prison already. She can pop her sympathy baby behind bars just like her co-fellons. >
  
  So does her attempt to flee do anything as in extending her jail time? I think I read that instead of being under house arrest until her sentence starts she will now go straight to jail and start soon? >
  
  When committing crimes...make sure to be young, white and blonde, not old, fat, and brown >
  
  THATS why her sentence was very high >
  
  She’s my “godsister” AMA… >
  
  "There are not two systems of justice — one for the wealthy and one for the poor — there is one criminal justice system in this country."
  There are 3: 
  1. One for the poor 
  2. can afford a lawyer.
  3. can afford a great lawyer. 
  All of the former systems are better if you're white .
  If she didn't have the means for a great lawyer she's prolly do 20 or 30 years >
  
  And if she'd only defrauded poor people instead of the 'investor class' she wouldn't have been charged at all. >
  
  What a grifting piece of trash. >
  
  A con artist tries to flee to a country with no extradition laws while probably hiding some offshore accounts with all the money that she stole.
  *Le Gasp* HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? >
  
  Guaranteed she’ll be pregnant again before reporting for prison in an attempt to stay out. >
  
  I’m sure her not booking the return trip was just an oversight >
  
  She is a convict.  Why is she not in jail today?   Seems like a flight risk.   Is the judge impartial? >
  
  She realized here mistake.  There is enough money to "help with justice". >
  
  This woman is a fucking devil and I hope she has a really bad time from now on. >
  
  Do or do not, there is no try...ing to flee >
  
  Take my upvote, you magnificent bastard, that was pretty good! >
  
  Reddit moment >
  
  Why didn't just let her carry forward? Put agents at both airports and agent(s) on plane. Meet her in Mexico (assuming she has fake documents since they took her passport). Let the charges add up - it will be way harder for her to justify fleeing to a judge.
  The problem is now we are judging "intent", not "action". She can say she never intended to board the plane. :/ >
  
  Can we detain someone when they're outside the country? >
  
  Apparently the FBI has 6 offices in Mexico. But my guess is that only in advisory role. >
  
  Feds be like: GG EZ get rekt kid >
  
  Could you imagine this weirdo trying to sneak around in some foreign country with no assets and no connections. Should wouldn’t last a month. 
  That said, I don’t blame her if I was caught red handed running a humongous scam that actively endangered the lives of thousands of people, I’d probably move away as well. >
  
  she is pulling her hand away from the man in the picture haha. That's kind of funny >
  
  She has Zuckerberg eyes! >
  
  I'll feel safer in April once she finally gets locked up >
  
  You feel unsafe? >
  
  You’ve seen her stare right? >
  
  All she had to do was make the damn product real. >
  
  And all she needed to do to make that happen was prove what we know about anatomy and pathology wrong.
  I mean, yes, the big players can get entrenched in their mindset, but anyone who had any training in the above said "this doesn't make sense". And the big players would have saved billions, and have been trying to work on solutions like this, for decades. >
  
  She really isn't the brightest crayon in the shed, is she. >
  
  I mean, I think anyone facing a long sentence should be expected to flee. >
  
  She’s stupid. Could have had an Uber, drove a car, took a train, hired a private plane to get away. >
  
  I mean honestly if I were her, which I'm not, but if I were, I would definitely look at fleeing the country.
  The rest of her life is pretty fucked no matter how you slice it, her kids will be at least 10 before she gets out of prison and they will have been raised by someone else, most of her family and friends will never talk to her, she won't have all of the gift wrap around her that she grew up with. She's 38, she'll be pushing 50 when she's free from prison and her crimes. I am in my 50's and I don't think that's the end of your life but to think about starting over at 50 is pretty tough.
  If you're going to have to start over from scratch anyway, why not on some quiet island country somewhere where nobody knows your name? >
  
  She’s White. She’ll be fine. She might get book/movie deals while she’s in prison. And I HIGHLY doubt she’ll be denied employment when she gets home. It’s a totally different sentence/story when it’s a person of color. >
  
  But she has maybe one year of an undergraduate degree and has never had a real job. >
  
  She can raise money like a con artist!
  That’s actually a valuable skill for every business, non profit, hospital, charity… >
  
  Sounds less like flight than thoughtlessness. Mexico extradites, right? So going to Mexico isn’t going to do her any good. >
  
  You can’t get flights out of Mexico to other non U.S. destinations?