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  No support for AP Hispanic studies either.  Where is the outrage there?  Equality dictates AP Asian studies too.  Others?
context: Desantis wants to do this to the entire country. >
  
  He’s so dangerous. >
  
  He is a racist piece of crap. >
  
  Don’t hold yourself back there stranger, let’s be honest, Ron Desantis is a fascist, racist, pile of human shit. And he deserves nothing less than being called a fucking pile of excrement. >
  
  He’s also a misogynist, don’t forget that part >
  
  Sane people: "We should tear down these Confederate statues."
  GOP: "No! Otherwise we might forget our history and then we'll be doomed to repeat it!"
  Sane people: "Oh, no problem, see, we're just gonna teach people about slavery and the Civil War in school."
  GOP: "No! That doesn't have any educational value...."
  Sane people: "....." >
  
  Become? >
  
  We are trying to hold on. I recently got my medical marijuana license and then realized that doesn’t mean shit lol. All employers are still free to fire you over weed. >
  
  Maybe talk to the 99% of people with that license who are completely full of it. >
  
  Maybe talk to doctors buddy. I didn’t make the parameters of what counts as able to be prescribed. I will tell you this though I am a 90% disabled veteran who was able to quit Cymbalta which made me a zombie thanks to marijuana. So can kiss my ass if you try are trying to hate on marijuana I think it should be recreational world wide. >
  
  Enjoy getting high if that’s what you want to do with your life. >
  
  Do you say the same thing when someone cracks open a beer? Get out of here with this weird Reaganite take. >
  
  People who drink beer don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by pretending it is a medical treatment. >
  
  As veteran, a lover of people, and someone who’s watched my buddies struggle returning from “over there” - you can fuck right off. >
  
  So Florida as a state can do this, but don't they lose federal funding for education since it isn't being used? >
  
  They don’t care because Florida republicans want to privatize education into charter schools. >
  
  The AP program is run and administered by a private, non-profit educational organization. >
  
  My comment wasn’t about the AP program. >
  
  So isn't their point of blocking history because of the children bla bla bla.. How many children take college ap courses most of them are probably at the age to serve in the military.  But yeah they can't make up their own minds.
  Who would have thought that a place as warm as Florida was so habitable for snowflakes. >
  
  
  college ap courses 
  
  ap is high school >
  
  AP classes are college level courses with transferable college credits that can be taken by upper level high school students. Most students taking them are 17 or 18 years old. >
  
  And AP students are generally the brightest and most academically inclined students in the high school, and the idea that such students need to have history hidden from them is an insult. >
  
  That’s the point >
  
  Most students who take ap classes are usually the type to learn things beyond their school curriculum anyways.
  (Although taking away this class is still bad) >
  
  Again, the point is to make knowledge an evil unto itself. >
  
  Maybe they can make a new class: AP Fascism In America, Contemporary Themes >
  
  So tell me if you ban only 1 AP class and it is African American studies tell me how this isn't racism? >
  
  The course is CRT based racism that they are trying to dispel from k-12 schools. >
  
  Please provide proof that CRT is taught in K-12. Thx. >
  
  There’s like 1 unit in the curriculum that uses a CRT book. It’s an overreaction but unfortunately it doesn’t comply with Desantis ban, which is also dumb. >
  
  You seem to have some information on this. Can I ask which book actually? >
  
  Thanks for providing an actual source and not some article. >
  
  Oh, it gets worse. Desantis outright says there's nothing to be gained from studying black history and that indigenous Americans have no culture
  Edit: Gotta love the schmucks who refuse to recognize dog whistles and defend of a racist POS >
  
  that's insane. happen to have any links for me? I can't find any quotes resembling that. >
  
  I'm not denying he might've said it, but I did not see in your article where Desantis claims "indigenous people have no culture". Do you have a link to where he said that? Or can you point to where I missed where he said it in your article, please? >
  
  Wow, thats blatant misinformation. This is what conservatives see to use against us >
  
  It's not misinformation. It's called piecing together a character and recognizing dog whistles. It's literally part of the basis for creating a motive for criminals >
  
  Dont say he outright said it. Because that is not true. Its already really bad by itself and we dont need to exaggerate anything to make them look worse >
  
  This makes sense, now knowing the history of Florida. Everyone should read “Devil in the Grove: Thurgood Marshall, the Groveland boys, and the Dawn of a New America.” The State of Florida and it’s authorities are/were straight vile. >
  
  They should pull AP testing from the state.  You can’t let one place dictate what is a valid course or not simply because of zeitgeist politics of fear. >
  
  That would just punish the students. DeSantis wouldn't care . There's been a 40 year push to make public schools less appealing anyway >
  
  They don't like their kids learning the real history of America because it makes them uncomfortable. Yea that's the whole point, it's uncomfortable because America has done some fucked up shit in its past, and it echoes into the present. >
  
  Today's Republicans are so fragile that they are the first generation of parents that don't want their children to have better lives than themselves because it would imply they're not perfect. >
  
  I don't understand how we keep electing racists. >
  
  Ron Desantis (R)
  That letter carries them to the finish line >
  
  The De education of Florida. The damage DeSantis does today will destroy Florida's future. Companies won't move there. As Florida develops its reputation as a fascist state even tourism will dry up. And Florida will become Alabama with more beaches. >
  
  How shocking that the state with "don't say gay" Desantis is openly and overtly racist too.. >
  
  Not a very free marketplace of ideas. >
  
  Florida being run by a bunch of bigots. >
  
  This dude is dumbing down Florida real quick. And now he’s the projected favorite to dumb down the rest of the country in 2024. DeSantis is maybe more dangerous than Trump. >
  
  My impression of Florida is that that’s not going to be a very far fall down. >
  
  As an ER doctor, if Florida was a patient and said it fell from where it is now to rock bottom and hit its head, I wouldn't get a CT. >
  
  Even in blue states, schools are very afraid of GIO parent pushback on race and gender, it is stifling teachers ability to teach current events, health and history. A minority voice not just gauging for itself to be heard, but silencing all other voices. >
  
  Chilling effect is what it’s called >
  
  Yes!! >
  
  Ron DeSantis is a fucking chode. >
  
  I was racking my brain for the words to explain how unbelievably stupid this is, but you nailed it so eloquently. >
  
  Ron DeSantis is scary. >
  
  He is gonna win the 2024 gop nomination, but it will be interesting to see him on the national state. He’s not good outside his tightly control bubble his has created in Florida. 
  Most people around him acknowledge he is a fucking wonk and breathtakingly flat. He doesn’t have the aura that propelled trump to the White House. >
  
  You said it perfectly. >
  
  We already have AP white history— It’s called AP European History. I took it sophomore year of HS. I would have LOVED to have been able to take AP African American studies after AP Euro, in order to expand my perspective through comparing and contrasting what I learned from both courses. >
  
  we usually call them normal american history. all thought out high school. they always only teach “world” european history and american history. completely skip out asian, middle east, africa etc. >
  
  My AP world history class in high school focused extensively on China (especially the Han dynasty), Ottoman Empire, and the mongols. The biggest weak spot for my course would probably be pre-Columbus native Americans. >
  
  Yes! I loved AP World and we did a lot of East Asian history in particular. I feel like we spent a lot of time on the Mongol Empire but that might have just been the part I enjoyed the most. My class was pretty good on post colonial and contemporary Latin American stuff, but definitely lacking in pre conquest indigenous material. >
  
  In other news, DeSantis forcing Florida schools to only serve mayonnaise sandwiches on white bread for lunch, claiming it has all the nutrition children need... >
  
  It’s what I ate, and my daddy ate, and his daddy before him! >
  
  So I can’t decide if their main objective is to continue entrenching systematic racism or this is another step towards trying to foment civil war. >
  
  I think it is as simple as creating outrage, then presenting solutions to manufactured outrage, then winning votes. >
  
  Nope I think the short answer is appropriate here. They will create outrage and that will win votes. No solution needed. >
  
  Its absolutely racism as a white individual i wish we had a African American studies when i was in school. I am intelligent enough to not take it personally when a book points out white people did horrible things.Instead learn from it recognize t. >
  
  Desantis is a piece of shit. >
  
  
  The letter, with no name attached to it, did not cite which law the violated or what in the curriculum was objectionable. >
  
  I’m sure this will save them from sea level rise. DeSantis’ antiwoke agenda and malevolent glare will protect the state. And if worst comes to worst he can fly people to Martha’s Vineyard or somewhere inland. >
  
  Yet another pointless publicity stunt by the Ayatollah of DeSantistan. >
  
  This alone is a clear enough reason to never vote for ignorance-loving republicans like desantos. >
  
  Florida HS graduates are going to learn the same thing graduates from MS and KS learn when trying to apply to college out of state. Nothing, because no college outside of FL wants them. Later, next >
  
  Coming next: Ron DeSantis will send all high school seniors plaques that read "Don't forget: You're here forever." >
  
  I bet desantis used that mlk quote they love to use when they’re racist >
  
  It's interesting they haven't used this same logic for AP European History. Oh wait, that's mostly about white people, so it's fine, right? /s 
  (Not saying they should get rid of any of the AP courses or that there's anything wrong with AP European History.) >
  
  Florida, where IQ goes to die! >
  
  Still racing to the bottom, Florida? >
  
  Freedom from indoctrination, unless we’re indoctrinating you into Christo-fascism. Then it’s fine. >
  
  Talk about cancel culture. >
  
  I am a white Christian who believes in equality. Am ashamed of white Christian nationalists and strongly reject their false ideology. >
  
  But you're probably a real Christian who tries to live a good life and do good things, I'm very critical of religion and it's effect on society and personally it's not for me..but I respect people that are true believers.   Those fake Christians though?  No, they're a blight on humanity. >
  
  Fragile, White Florida >
  
  Dangling flaccid from the belly of the south >
  
  Fascist Floridians Prefer Pan Handle Hitler. >
  
  If slavery could be attributed to the modern democratic party, as Republicans ALWAYS imply, wouldn't they want to teach African-American studies?
  Also, how is evil slavery the fault of democrats but Robert E. Lee is a hero who's monuments shouldn't be removed? >
  
  Wow.... I saved it to study it my damn self. Good that is out there so others can do the same. >
  
  Honestly surprised that nobody has sued to get all history taken off of lessons. If we can't teach one type of History we shouldn't be able to teach any other type. >
  
  This is how it begins before moving on to Fahrenheit 451 >
  
  DeSantis will really be attacking Trump from the right. Interesting primary awaits us all. >
  
  DeSantis read ‘1984’ and thought the Ministry of Truth was the protagonist. >
  
  You have to royally fuck up for educators to be DEFENDING college board. >
  
  Imagine being so fragile that school courses scare you. >
  
  Straight from the republicans playbook for their constituents: keep them dumb, keep them poor, keep them busy. >
  
  Keep them afraid >
  
  Indeed >
  
  I was going to say not Florida, DeSantis. However, truth is he got elected precisely because these constant dog whistles. >
  
  Cue the Streisand effect fir the upcoming generation >
  
  Upper class keeping the lower class dumb >
  
  Freedom from indoctrination…they say while white washing history and putting a nice little heroic bow on America. >
  
  From the article it says the content of the class is “historically inaccurate.” Have they said what those inaccuracies are? >
  
  Snowflakes? >
  
  Claudette Colvin
  Nathan Green
  Benjamin O Davis Sr.
  Annie Lee Cooper
  Jesse Owens
  This is a small list of black men and women who deserve to be remembered. History is way more than the civil war and slavery. Some of these people just happened to be slaves but they would add a richness to understanding US history if history was considered in full. >
  
  Alternate headline:  "Florida State Government Proclaims Knowledge is Dangerous and Vows to Eliminate Threat of Education in Schools." >
  
  ITT: people who don't know what an AP class is. >
  
  Sure would be nice to read the article (pay wall).  Here is cnn's version.     CNN
   — 
  Florida rejected a proposed Advanced Placement course focused on African American Studies because it included study of topics like the Movement for Black Lives, Black feminism and reparations, according to a list of concerns provided to CNN on Friday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office.
  The one-page document prepared by the Florida Department of Education also questions the inclusion of certain Black authors and historians whose writings touch on critical race theory and Black communism. For example, the state objects to the inclusion of writing by Robin D.G. Kelley, a professor of American history at UCLA, who “warns that simply establishing safe spaces and renaming campus buildings does nothing to overthrow capitalism,” according to the document.
  The state also said the course framework for the study of reparations – the argument to compensate Black Americans for slavery and other historical atrocities and oppressive acts – includes “no critical perspective or balancing opinion in this lesson.”
  “All points and resources in this study advocate for reparations,” the document said.
  Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, left, and Andrew Warren, right. 
  Judge criticizes DeSantis' firing of Democratic prosecutor but declines to reinstate Andrew Warren
  The state based its assertions of the course on an 81-page syllabus from February 2022. According to the list of concerns, their objections cover six topics of study, all in the fourth and final unit, when students study “Movements and Debates.”
  A previous draft version of the concerns sent to CNN by DeSantis’ office included an objection to the study of “The Black Power Movement and The Black Panther Party.” The draft version asserted that “The Black Panther Party (BPP) was based on the ideology of Marxism- Leninism. Goal of the BPP was to fundamentally change or overthrow the American government.” However, in an updated version of the state’s concerns, the references to the Black Panther Party were removed and replaced with an objection to the study of “Black Queer Studies.”
  The state Department of Education on January 12 informed the College Board, the organization that oversees the Advanced Placement program, that the course violated state law and rejected its inclusion in Florida schools.
  The course, which is the first of its kind, was first introduced in the fall as a pilot in about 60 schools and will be offered nationwide starting in the 2024-25 school year. It was developed over the last decade and is intended to be a multidisciplinary study of the African American diaspora that includes literature, the arts, science, politics and geography.
  The College Board declined in a previous statement to CNN to directly address the decision in Florida but said, “We look forward to bringing this rich and inspiring exploration of African-American history and culture to students across the country.”
  DeSantis’ office said the state would reconsider the decision if the course is changed to comply with Florida law.
  Under DeSantis – whose standing among conservatives has soared nationwide following his public stances on hot-button cultural issues and who is said to be weighing a potential 2024 presidential bid – the state has banned the teaching of critical race theory. Last year, it moved to prohibit instruction that suggests anyone is privileged or oppressed based on their race or skin color. >
  
  A.P. = Advanced Placement >
  
  I'm shocked they had AP classes >
  
  Honest question what would happen if they had a Hispanic American Studies class? >
  
  This is what you get when white supremicists are runming the state - they whitewash everything! >
  
  Fucking florida >
  
  Ron Desantis - a  man who believes that US history is so horrendous  that if you teach people the truth it will make little children cry and hate themselves.
  The "woke libs" - people who believe in  the US, believe that it can and should be better, but also aren't afraid of the truth and do not believe that reorganizing that slavery was  horrible does not mean hating ourselves (even if we are white) or our country. >
  
  He doesn't believe in any of that. He doesn't believe in anything. He just wants a fast track to power. If he could have gotten it by being a liberal or pushing progressive ideals, he'd do that. He's an opportunist with no conscience. >
  
  I agree that he just wants power - and probably doesn't believe in anything - except, probably, that as someone who is white, male, Christian and rich he has the god-given right to be above everyone who does not meet that criteria. I think it is ironic that his basic argument seems to be that white Americans would be so ashamed of our history that they would be mentally destroyed if they had to think about it, so we have to protect them by pretending anything that makes them uncomfortable never happened. Essentially, he is arguing that he hates what America really is so much that he wants to ensure that no one ever learns about it. >
  
  
  Essentially, he is arguing that he hates what America really is so much that he wants to ensure that no one ever learns about it.
  
  Seriously! It's going to backfire, I just don't know when. >
  
  I think he needs to look at the last election. He wants to run for president. In 2022, the Republicans who ran on "anti-wokism" and right wing nut-jobbery didn't do so well. It should have been a great year for the party but they couldn't keep the senate and just barely held onto the house. He did fine in Florida (lots of old white people who like him saying the quiet part out loud) but not sure how that anti-gay, anti-truth, anti-woman approach is going to play in a general election. His positions are so bizarre. In the name of free speech, he wants to punish companies that object to his policy, fine or fire teachers who so much as mention their spouse (if that happens to be the wrong spouse) and generally control any and all speech that makes him look bad. Or look at his migrant stunt - he took money from the Florida coffers to send someone to TX to pick up people who had legally entered (claiming asylum) and fly them to a blue area (where they were welcomed and accommodated.) Not only did he prove that FL does not have a problem with illegal aliens (since he had to go to TX to find some) but the people he tricked will now be able to stay and work in the US legally because they are witnesses to a crime committed against them. >
  
  Florida is a special kind of stupidity, change my mind >
  
  And we still got black folks voting for republicans….. anytime I run into someone who looks like me that votes republican I am flabbergasted >
  
  The whole Blexit movement is trafficking in sophistry to lure black voters away from Democrats. Pot to fire. >
  
  America rejects Florida. >
  
  The party of free speech everybody. >
  
  I genuinely don't understand how someone can be of voting age and actually give that vote to this man. Really next level stupid. >
  
  It's sad because I teach history in New York and we just added an African unit to our middle school curriculum. It's really fascinating stuff studying the civilizations of Kush and Mali.  Hopefully Muslim heroes are also added to the mix. The story of Saladin and the resistance to the Crusades is fascinating. >
  
  I am so mad at my family members still willing to “retire in Florida” amid this shit. People with a choice need to stop moving there or visiting there and contributing their economy. >
  
  You may have the last laugh, as Florida is likely to be reclaimed by the Atlantic Ocean in the coming decades.  It is unlikely your relatives will elect to live in an aquatic environment, unless they have some incredible mutations you don’t know about. >
  
  U right. I’ve said to them “what do you think it means that flood insurance is so expensive” and they just blink 😭 >
  
  Because without the class black people wont know when they are being discriminated against? What if like a tourist tells them? Worse yet what if some lib accidentally leaves a book about racism on the beach and a black person picks it up and reads it? I think Ronnie’s only move here has to be properly educating people about where their place is in society, well reeducation really they should already know this stuff. He can have camps, like summer camps, that sounds fun. He can make attendance mandatory then round everyone up send them off to camp for reeducation. >
  
  I guess I should expect this from the man who ordered the removal of math books for allegedly pushing a racial agenda.  These “culture war” types are relentless in their search for new anger fuel sources. >
  
  I made the following comment on another article that talked about the same issue.  I feel like its appropriate to repost it here. Note that the article quotations are from the other article, but they're still relevant.
  I wish more people would read the articles so we could actually discuss their contents lol. Yeah the title makes this seem objectionable. The article makes it way worse:
  “In the future, should College Board be willing to come back to the table with lawful, historically accurate content, FDOE will always be willing to reopen the discussion,” the state wrote in a letter to the College Board, the company that administers the course as well as other interdisciplinary courses and the SAT exam.
  They didn't say what they objected to in the curriculum, but they heavily implied that what was being taught was inaccurate. That's an incredible statement given that the material hasn't even been released!
  But the syllabus was apparently leaked to The Florida Standard, a conservative outlet that is friendly with the DeSantis administration. According to the outlet, the course “sought to teach progressive doctrines” because it included topics such as “Black Queer Studies” and “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness.”
  All they have is a leaked syllabus. Banning a curriculum based on the name of topics is absurd. I don't think "The Gilded Age" is a good name for that time period, but I wouldn't ban a fucking textbook on that basis.
  The only good that can come of this is that it ought to destroy the facade that DeSantis's anti-woke laws are about anything other than thoughtcrime. My concern is that that may have been the goal. If Republicans still cared enough to use dog whistles, he would've waited until the textbook was released, then found some facts in the textbook that weren't unanimously agreed to be accurate (every history textbook is going to have some information that is disputed by some experts) then banned the curriculum on that basis. The fact that he felt no need to wait indicates that his people will honestly excuse exceedingly thinly veiled bigotry.
  With all that being said, I do have concerns about this being an AP class. Ultimately, only relatively intelligent, relatively ambitious kids are going to take an AP class at all. Of that group, only those that are interested in black history are going to take the class. Several years down the line, you're going to have an increased degree of Republicans saying, "All those elitist Democrats believe in systemic racism!" I'm fine with these topics being introduced into public schools through the AP program, but I really hope that it'd quickly get integrated into required history classes.
  EDIT: I saw another article that talked about this. The syllabus was 81 pages. Which I think is really important information, and it was irresponsible of this article to fail to provide such context. Still, if a state wants to ban a class, it should have to point to particular things being taught that are inaccurate, or point to some facts that must be taught that are inexplicably left out of the curriculum. >
  
  This is going to backfire so tremendously it isn't even funny >
  
  Gotta hand it to Deplorida, they wear their racism on their sleeves. >
  
  
  “As presented, the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value,” the department’s office of articulation, which oversees accelerated programs for high school students, wrote on Jan. 12.
  
  Don't they mean "inextricably"? Maybe they ought to hire someone who passed A.P. English Language. >
  
  Love the “stop woke” sign in that pic. What does that even mean? These people are completely radicalized and brainwashed. >
  
  Freedom of speech can continue to be defended by banning the freedom to speak about certain topics the GOP doesn’t want you to talk about! >
  
  Americas dick. >
  
  This is what small government look like. >
  
  Be specific. Not FL. Ron DeRacist >
  
  DeSenseless is a mini hitler >
  
  Desantis is a racist. Period. >
  
  It’s always fucking Florida. >
  
  Sounds like this was rejected because due an abundance of inaccurate information.  Can’t they just correct the inaccurate information?  What argument would he have then?  He would look terrible if the curriculum was accurate, while not approving the program.  Career suicide >
  
  APUSH and AP Euro are still fine though? Got it. >
  
  I was told to remove all my classroom books on Friday and lock them up until further notice so they could be vetted, risking a 3rd degree felony and loss of my license.  I fucking hate Florida. >
  
  Ah florida. The shithole country of North America. >
  
  What’s ironic is that DeSantis is contributing more material for the latest chapter in next year’s curriculum. >
  
  Lmao what a shit state >
  
  Africa American history is apart of America’s History. Why should we “white wash” our history so as to repeat it. I have read much history and history can be messy but necessary. Norms change but facts do not. It is common knowledge that Jefferson and our founding fathers had slaves. This does not tarnish the good they did but condemns the bad. It happened. >
  
  Absolutely disgusting. Basically refusing to allow “unflattering” HISTORY to be taught. Fck the republicans, and fck DeSantos. >
  
  Terrible headline, Florida didn't reject it, it was one insecure little man with sexual identity issues and a fear of a cartoon mouse. >
  
  Who elected that man and put him Ina position of power? >
  
  Are you responsible for both Trump and Biden?
  Get it?
  As long as folks waste their energy categorizing groups to aim their blame at, they fail to go after the real problem.  Divide and Conquer is not new.  Recognize it. >
  
  Who does he represent? >
  
  Certainly not most black Floridians in this case as an example.
  My point is that phrasing that puts it on the state of Florida instead of the looney tune who did it or the philosophies he follows is dysfunctional and works against us.  We do not gain power and solidarity by allowing such wording to redirect us in this fashion, in fact, we simply make more enemies, more hate, we are disempowered.
  I too perceive an US and Them, I was trying to point out that it's misleading as phrased. >
  
  How dangerous is this man? >
  
  Is anyone actually proud to be an American anymore? I’m embarrassed, angry and scared for the current and future state of this country. 
  We seem to be nearing the point of no return. >
  
  How long till DeSantis bans People of Color from getting an education because it would be promoting CRT? >
  
  DeSantis can eat a fat one! 
  Make it a BBC at that. >
  
  These folks live in absolute fear. The overt racism by DeSantis is stunning. >
  
  This is so blatantly racist. Is he trying to resurrect Jim Crow >
  
  I fucking hate it here. nuke us. >
  
  TIL this was a class. But why are they so worried if a student decides to take it? Like they’re so worried their past will be exposed >
  
  we can’t have our white children learning about the accomplishments of people that don’t look like them…. how else are the going to know that they are better than the brown ones….
  sheesh!! (please for the love of god know this is sarcasm) >
  
  Go Florida