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  So no source, great.
  Based in constitutional law and is therefore absolutely non-negotiable any such request has to be processed by the Ministery of Economy (declared they won't block) and forwarded to the Bundessicherheitsrat to be voted on on a case by case basis.  Even if every single member of the Bundessicherheitsrat would declare his or her support here and now, a formal request and a vote would still be required. 
  Nobody can grant an imaginary export request. What is it anyway these days? Poland going on their own? With or without Agreement of Germany? Poland and their broad coalition formed two weeks ago? Everybody but Germany agreeing on sending Tanks at Ramstein? Poland only building a Coalition now in case Germany does not send Tanks? Who is requesting what? How should anybody decide on this mess?
  Such a request does not have to be decided upon right away, nor has a decision be declared in advance - see the Estonian export request for Howitzers last year. There is absolutely no excuse not to do the necessary and hand in the request so actual negotiations and decisions can finally start. Poland has not done that. WHY????
context: Outside of Germany there are 12 more countries with Leopards in the EU all of them could have started training Ukrainian Soldiers on the tanks weeks ago. Hasnt happen yet. Curious why. >
  
  Those with the most Leopard 2s are Greece and Turkey, and they might still need them to fight each other. >
  
  I hate to be that guy in again, but why the fuck did Germany sell Leopards to turkey? >
  
  Turkey is a NATO partner and European adjacent state, which before their current descent into authoritarianism was one of the most progressive nations in the region. >
  
  The public position of the Germany was not to sell weapons to the country at war.
  But TK is always at war. >
  
  Man I'm very much in the "only reason we keep Turkey in NATO is to avoid them not being in NATO ..." but your argument is missing the mark by several miles.
  Turkey is far from always at war, and Germany has been fine selling weapons and weapons components to the US, the UK and France while we've essentially been in non stop conflict the past 60 years. >
  
  What about the German/Egyptian arms sales worth billions since 2010, during a military dictatorship which murders it owns citizens? Umm. >
  
  It's goofy to imply German weapons are used in Egypt to arbitrarily murder Egyptian citizens. Germany is selling them air defense systems and warships.
  If you want to be outraged about those arms deals it would also be reasonable to include France, Italy and the United States in the list of shame. >
  
  Egypt literally used TH390 Fahds to roll over protesters though. Nothing goofy about that. >
  
  They also used their shiny new Abrams. >
  
  Wait, wasn't the coalition ready to go two weeks ago? Didn't everybody but Germany already agree on Friday? Wasn't all that just a formality waiting for the German approval? Wasn't Poland ready to send their Tanks now, even if Germany refuses? I am getting conflicting Signals there, Poland. >
  
  Yep. Polish government is trying to score usual anti Germany points here. They didn't even sent the export request that Germany said would agree with. >
  
  Habeck, Pistorius, and Baerbock, the ministers in charge, have already said they "will not stand in the way if Poland sends Leopard tanks to Ukraine", so what is Poland waiting for? >
  
  Poland: "Yeah ... us and our friends will do this alone as we always do! Hey Hungary, are you in?"
  Hungary (Orban): "Uhm ... not on this one, pal. We like Russian pipeline oil." >
  
  More like: hold me back bro...
  But no one is actually holding back Poland. They could have made a formal request with paperwork etc. but they didn't... almost as if the election is getting closer in Poland... >
  
  I didn't follow the news closely. but why Poland need Germany's approval to start with ? >
  
  They are German made. It's common to have re-export restrictions in the contracts. The thing is Poland as of yet has not made any official requests to re-export them. Elections are coming up and in Poland Germany bad seems to be a working campaign >
  
  Good tread summarizing whats happening right now.
  TLDR: Poland likely felt left out after the IFV announcement, made a big announcement of sending Leopard 2's conditional on there being an alliance, and then started backpeddaling when it became clear they actually were quite alone with this in europe by claiming a german blockade. >
  
  
  Are you guys insane?
  
  Generally not.
  Its more experience in dealing with polish politics over the last few years. The MiG-desaster, the PzH2000 repair center bullshit, Kaczinsky's "enemy in the west" speech - PiS doesn't leave out any chance to throw shit at Germany every time they can.
  And in this case, there was a big announcement by them a few weeks ago about sending Leopards - and nothing has happened in that regard. Instead, Duda and Morawiecki played strong by claiming they would circumvent a supposed german blockade, despite our gov being clear about them not having any problems with the poles sending their Leopards. Right now, it looks a lot like Poland backpeddaling on their initial statement while trying to blame us (again).
  All the while reddit is going apeshit on Scholz while the supposed coalition of Leopard delivering countries remains mostly unknown and incredibly inactive, with other countries like the US being clear on a no-delivery-policy aswell, which for some reason receives no backlash at all. >
  
  Dude, random German redditors don't have any political pull. They are controlling the tank spigot. Whatever a German on reddit does, it is just their own opinions like the rest of us, with 0 geopolitical action. This is just social media were we endless argue, not actually decide things or affect policy. >
  
  How to stay in the media till elections?
  Blame Germany and brag to send tanks which never happens...
  If that fails ask Germany for reperations of 300 billion for Ww2 >
  
  Which germany responds" we already paid those" and the cycle continues >
  
  Technically Poland waived any remaining reparations in exchange for recognising the Oder-Neisse border with Germany.
  So, in a sense, if Poland were to actually push the claim, it could open a can of worms that no one should want to open (i.e. unravelling the 2+4 treaty). >
  
  But since Germany already paid, they should ask Russia(who collected in their name) for the money. 
  Or renegotiate 2+4 and give back the land, which would be utterly crazy and moronic. >
  
  This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 73%. (I'm a bot)
  
  
  If Germany won't play ball, then Poland will find other partners to deliver Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said in pointed remarks accusing Berlin of foot-dragging in its support of Kyiv against invading Russian forces.
  Poland is prepared to go around German opposition to build a "Smaller coalition" of countries and find allies willing to send the tanks to Ukraine, Morawiecki said in an interview with the Polish Press Agency published on Sunday.
  His remarks come amid a heated debate over whether to send the German-made battle tanks to Ukraine.
  
  
  Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Ukraine^#1 tanks^#2 Morawiecki^#3 Berlin^#4 send^#5 >
  
  It's crazy that the US can use and supply Abrams in Iraq, and now argue the logistics would be impossible in this European war. Their solution is that neighbouring countries, like Poland should
  
  donate their Leos that are the "only tanks suited for the conflict"
  replace them with new Abrams to prepare for this exact type of war
  
  Shouldn't they encourage Poland to buy more Leos in that case? Do they have another reason? It can't be money since they donate a lot of equipment like the HIMARS and Bradleys etc. >
  
  A lot of HIMARS were already present in Europe and part of the US’s strategic weapons in Europe. They could be transported to Ukraine via train. 
  Your comparison to Iraq is off the mark. Tanks were rapidly deployed in Iraq via airlift after the US dominated the skies. Then tanks were offloaded via sea transport from the Persian gulf. Neither of those options are feasible in Ukraine without the US/NATO imposing a no-fly zone or confronting the Russia Navy. As it stands, it is far more logistically feasible to put Leopards on a train and deliver them to Ukraine. Maybe countries like Germany should actually step up for once.
  In addition, Leopards are far more easy to repair with closer supply lines for spare parts. >
  
  Why would they have to have air superiority over Poland to airlift tanks? >
  
  They wouldn’t; that’s the point. There’s already a lot of Leopards that could be easily distributed with rail transport. In Iraq, Air superiority was needed due to the lack of rail infrastructure. The tanks were delivered on C-17s. This is why the comparison is not apropos. >
  
  You don't understand their point. Just ship the tanks and spare parts to Poland and then use the railroads like you want it for the Leo's. >
  
  You don’t understand my point. What sense does it make to do that when there are already leopards in Poland and more maintenance facilities and spare parts? >
  
  Oh, they're now "ready to build smaller colation". Funny I thought there was already a coalition in place after all the shitslinging especially from Poland.
  Was that maybe a little bit inaccurate? >
  
  This is all PiS politicking. They need to sling shit at Germany and complain about the EU. >
  
  Great, let them do it. But I wont be shocked if they will find another "reason" to point the blame at someone else again when they achieve nothing. >
  
  Moving goalposts.. i thought they were going to send them regardless of what Germany said.
  Its like the migs all over again.. typical >
  
  German foreign an economic minister already said,nthey would approve polish export requests >
  
  Oh look, Politico is continuing the electoral campaign for PiS. >
  
  More of that "HOLD ME BACK BRO IM SERIOUS" Poland nonsense. Just do it and see who follows, don't make it a political power struggle or your own gain. Its just gross and insulting. >
  
  So send the fucking tanks and not just announce it, for fuck's sake. God, sometimes I hate the country I live in. >
  
  They can't, it's a violation of their contract with Germany. They do that and Poland will never get another tank from anyone. >
  
  
  They can't, it's a violation of their contract with Germany.
  
  Germany has already said multiple times they don't veto Poland sending tanks. This is just Poland playing poker. >
  
  That is not true. Germany has ~~said that they will not~~ refused to say whether it will support Poland sending its Leos to Ukraine. Just because they haven't officially vetoed it doesn't mean they haven't made their position clear. >
  
  
  Germany has said that they will not support Poland sending its Leos to Ukraine
  
  Source please? >
  
  Oh actually, you're right. Germany has not said they won't support it, they simply refuse to say that they will support it when asked informally by Poland, the US, and the rest of NATO. Guess what? THATS THE SAME THING. Germany is not fooling anyone, and in the meantime, they're pissing off their biggest allies AND their enemies. I guess Germany never learned a single thing from WWII.