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  Right.. 
  No body cam footage and rumors that the cops shot their own.
  And the protestors say they only had a bb gun.
context: This seems like a weird hill to die on, I mean they don't really need to cut down a forest to build a training center. >
  
  It seems like a colossal waste of money and a burden on the taxpayers. They should spend more money on mental health and sensitivity training. What's the point in building a new training facility why do they even need to build an entire city and destroy an entire Forest to do it? they should invest in more sensitivity training and how to deal with mental health more appropriately. >
  
  Because fuck us. >
  
  unfortunately looking bleak . police departments across the country need to start some sort of training on how to properly interact with people of color I'm a white guy in my  30s saying this. I live in the Northeast in the town I live in they're not much better than law enforcement across the country. unfortunately if you're low income like myself or a person of color or different somehow they ostracize you I always felt when I've had interactions with law enforcement that they speak down to me like that they are somehow better than me even though at the end of the day we all bleed red and we're only human beings >
  
  I agree with you I have never had an interaction with police in North America that hasn’t left me feeling belittled. For no real reason. Bullies with a badge. >
  
  If im flat out breaking the law, usually traffic mind you (not hard to do that in a toyota mr2) if i know if I were the cop id act the same as him...write me a ticket. Fair enough. We all fuck up. We repay a debt and move on.
  But then, there's times, where it feels like bullying, harassment, and their mindset is fucking gross. Like the entirely wrong type of individual sought out that job as their career path, like a little man with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove and/or hero complex driven individuals. >
  
  I used to have an MR2 mark II turbo. Not much cargo space but by far the best, most reliable, most FUN car I ever owned or even drove. God, I miss that car. Metallic blue, black leather interior, t-tops. I miss is. >
  
  “Briefly turns violent” You don’t briefly cook up explosives. >
  
  This Stop Cop City protest has been happening for a while. The Cop City plan was originally put out in 2020, and protests have been happening on and off ever since. It's just been picking up the last few weeks.
  Tortuguita was killed 3 days ago, plenty of time to get angry enough and build a bomb. >
  
  Because until recently it was locals. Then the varsity from out of town showed up. 
  Atlanta isn't Portland. The DA prosecutes people in Atlanta. >
  
  Dude, people know this tactic of pretending that there's some violent band of outsiders flooding to these protests.  Y'all have used this one too much, it's stale. >
  
  Only 1 of the 6 protestors arrested is a Georgia resident per WSB-TV >
  
  Here come the weeks of claiming the entire city burned down and another excuse for police to refuse to do their jobs. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  The police allege that they shot at them. This is an unsubstantiated police narrative. >
  
  Gotcha. So then you wouldn’t be in favor of rioting if it was proven to your satisfaction that the activist did in fact shoot first? >
  
  Even in that unlikely event (seeing as police murder civilians on a daily basis and activists murder cops almost never) I would still support rioting because what the police have been doing regularly to these people in Atlanta was an unacceptable abuse of power even before anyone died. Fuck the police and fuck the system. >
  
  My takeaway from the reddit discussion here is that americans don't care about discussions of solutions or underlying conditions and really only care about how to make themselves look cool or justified >
  
  There is also only black and white (not skin color wise) and no matter what the perceived good side does it is either unconnected to the good side and just an isolated incident, it is paid actors planted to start shit, it was actually the other side and whatever else.
  Same goes for the opposite, but opposite tend to be less kn the news as the good side so generally we focus on their shit. >
  
  just “briefly” violent is all >
  
  Yes, briefly violent. It would be misleading to claim or imply that the entire thing was violent, or that a majority or even a large minority participated in violence.
  If there's 100 people at an event, and during this multi-hour event one of them punches somebody, do you say that was a violent event? >
  
  Yeah! Like say for example 10,000 people show up to the US capitol to protest but a riot breaks out. However only 200 or so actually participate in violence and that would involve just a few punches thrown and some barricades broken. Everyone else goes home peacefully. Was it really a violent event? I'd say it was mostly peaceful.
  Yet i have a hunch you'd disagree. >
  
  Sure, the rally that day was mostly peaceful. The multi-hour invasion of the US Capitol subsequent to that seems to be a bigger story than the mostly peaceful rally. >
  
  The rally before the insurrection was chalk full of fearmongering to rile up the masses there. Yea there was no “violence” at the rally but it def led to it. So there’s an element of violence there >
  
  Silly me thinking the police shooting an activist was when it turned violent >
  
  Well, if he hadn't tried to murder police officers first they wouldn't have killed him. So there's that. >
  
  Reports of who shot first differ between the police accounts and what protestors say, so why not take the cops at their word? Not like they’d lie to cover up a murder. >
  
  Why take the protestors at their word?
  And you're implicitly agreeing with police that this guy had a gun too. Which makes police accounts more believable than the mostly peaceful protestor accounts. >
  
  Historical precedent. >
  
  Historical precedent?
  So they are quite likely all lying to make themselves look better.
  As people do… >
  
  "briefly turns violent" is the newspeak for the 2020 "fiery but peaceful" riots. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  What rights do they not have? >
  
  Oh, most of them. They gave us guns instead of freedom so we would feel secure in our ability to protect our lack of healthcare, our state monopoly on violence, and our oligarchy who decide what’s on our tv and in our stores and who gets to run for office. >
  
  You don’t have freedom? >
  
  So I’m out of the loop. The news says that the cops wanted to build a training center, autonomous zone was created on the site, cops go to clear it out & someone shot a cop. They shot back. Shooter was killed. Correct? 
  If so, seems a bad hill to protest on. >
  
  No one believes the protester shot at the cops. They think the cops shot one another while killing this protester. 
  Look at Uvalde. Those cops lied about everything in that shooting and still haven’t released key info about how many children the officers shot and it’s been nearly a year.
  No one believes the cops because all they do is lie and coverup. >
  
  Lots of people in the YouTube comments on this one news story believe them. They’re just lining up to blatantly believe whatever the officers said without any evidence whatsoever or witnesses. Don’t go to those comment sections, those people are so unbelievably sheepy it will make you lose hope in humanity. >
  
  YouTube comments are a hell hole of the mentally unwell. >
  
  Unlike Reddit. We are all mentally stable around these parts. >
  
  We're only marginally better, but better none the less >
  
  I was actually surprised how bad YouTube commenters were. I’m sure they also have a huge bot problem. Reddit is like eons less toxic than YouTube comments. Reddit of course isn’t the greatest in terms of toxicity especially in certain subs but holy cow YouTube is wild. >
  
  Reddit is like a decentralized system where each sub has it's own flavor in a lot of ways. YouTube is still the wild west in terms of every comment section >
  
  Have you considered that maybe the bad people at Occupy were actually just regular bad people and not secret cops instigating fights? There is a lot of documented evidence that Occupy was loaded with opportunistic criminals. I mean, what normal person would camp out in a tent to protest Wall Street?
  This is just schizophrenia lol. >
  
  I'm sorry but did they just say this guy shot an officer? >
  
  "briefly turns violent" when cops fire tear gas and "less lethal" munitions into crowds of protesters >
  
  
  The demonstration started peacefully, then abruptly escalated with some protesters throwing fireworks and rocks and smashing buildings' windows with hammers, according to a Reuters witness.
  As police moved on the marchers, the violence quickly fizzled without anyone injured. A Reuters photographer saw a protester who was carrying a banner being handcuffed by law enforcement. >
  
  IDK, seems like the police could have arrested the people causing mischief instead of declaring the entire protest "violent"
  I mean...
  Police briefly turned violent while chasing Chris Dorner through Los Angeles. They shot up some random blue toyota while looking for a silver nissan, then proceeded to fire tear gas and rounds to ignite a cabin in the woods to kill while using sniper fire to keep chris dorner inside so he would be burned alive. >
  
  There were these people in the YouTube comments on this one news video saying all the protesters, regardless of what they did, including literally just attend, should all have their phone rights taken away and not be allowed to attend any social/public events. Some people are SCARY dystopian. This country was (supposed to be) founded on the idea that you’re allowed to protest the government. >
  
  I bet if you asked those people what should happen to the people who tried to siege the capitol they would scream about how they're tourists and political prisoners. >
  
  Briefly doing a lot of work in that headline >
  
  here’s an article that doesn’t only quote law enforcement >
  
  Just some brief domestic extremist terrorism. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  What right is being violated by a police training facility being built? >
  
  Ah the peaceful protests have returned >
  
  Fiery But Mostly Peaceful >
  
  Deadly but mostly peaceful >
  
  Sounds like that actor. "briefly pulled the trigger" >
  
  Like the mostly peaceful riots? >
  
  Nah, probably just some "legitimate political discourse". >
  
  So guy shoots at cops hitting one. Cops shoot back killing him. And “people” protest?
  Maybe you shouldn’t shoot at cops if you don’t want them to shoot back?
  Please someone explain to me what I’m missing. >
  
  What does “people” mean? They are people…
  And no one’s protesting about the cop getting shot. They’re protesting the forest destruction, and this death has accelerated their protest as it was an avoidable death. >
  
  Sure it was avoidable. Don’t shoot at police. Pretty simple. Would they be having violent protests over just some trees? >
  
  oh look antifa and BLM riots....is anyone surprised >
  
  You don’t care about our people do you >
  
  Briefly turns violent must be the new mostly peaceful. >
  
  The "activist" shot a cop..