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  Anyone who takes this type of advice is likely to end up in prison or dead.
context: This seems like a weird hill to die on, I mean they don't really need to cut down a forest to build a training center. >
  
  It seems like a colossal waste of money and a burden on the taxpayers. They should spend more money on mental health and sensitivity training. What's the point in building a new training facility why do they even need to build an entire city and destroy an entire Forest to do it? they should invest in more sensitivity training and how to deal with mental health more appropriately. >
  
  Because fuck us. >
  
  unfortunately looking bleak . police departments across the country need to start some sort of training on how to properly interact with people of color I'm a white guy in my  30s saying this. I live in the Northeast in the town I live in they're not much better than law enforcement across the country. unfortunately if you're low income like myself or a person of color or different somehow they ostracize you I always felt when I've had interactions with law enforcement that they speak down to me like that they are somehow better than me even though at the end of the day we all bleed red and we're only human beings >
  
  I agree with you I have never had an interaction with police in North America that hasn’t left me feeling belittled. For no real reason. Bullies with a badge. >
  
  If im flat out breaking the law, usually traffic mind you (not hard to do that in a toyota mr2) if i know if I were the cop id act the same as him...write me a ticket. Fair enough. We all fuck up. We repay a debt and move on.
  But then, there's times, where it feels like bullying, harassment, and their mindset is fucking gross. Like the entirely wrong type of individual sought out that job as their career path, like a little man with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove and/or hero complex driven individuals. >
  
  I used to have an MR2 mark II turbo. Not much cargo space but by far the best, most reliable, most FUN car I ever owned or even drove. God, I miss that car. Metallic blue, black leather interior, t-tops. I miss is. >
  
  “Briefly turns violent” You don’t briefly cook up explosives. >
  
  This Stop Cop City protest has been happening for a while. The Cop City plan was originally put out in 2020, and protests have been happening on and off ever since. It's just been picking up the last few weeks.
  Tortuguita was killed 3 days ago, plenty of time to get angry enough and build a bomb. >
  
  Because until recently it was locals. Then the varsity from out of town showed up. 
  Atlanta isn't Portland. The DA prosecutes people in Atlanta. >
  
  Dude, people know this tactic of pretending that there's some violent band of outsiders flooding to these protests.  Y'all have used this one too much, it's stale. >
  
  Only 1 of the 6 protestors arrested is a Georgia resident per WSB-TV >
  
  Here come the weeks of claiming the entire city burned down and another excuse for police to refuse to do their jobs. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  The police allege that they shot at them. This is an unsubstantiated police narrative. >
  
  Gotcha. So then you wouldn’t be in favor of rioting if it was proven to your satisfaction that the activist did in fact shoot first? >
  
  Even in that unlikely event (seeing as police murder civilians on a daily basis and activists murder cops almost never) I would still support rioting because what the police have been doing regularly to these people in Atlanta was an unacceptable abuse of power even before anyone died. Fuck the police and fuck the system. >
  
  My takeaway from the reddit discussion here is that americans don't care about discussions of solutions or underlying conditions and really only care about how to make themselves look cool or justified >
  
  There is also only black and white (not skin color wise) and no matter what the perceived good side does it is either unconnected to the good side and just an isolated incident, it is paid actors planted to start shit, it was actually the other side and whatever else.
  Same goes for the opposite, but opposite tend to be less kn the news as the good side so generally we focus on their shit. >
  
  just “briefly” violent is all >
  
  Yes, briefly violent. It would be misleading to claim or imply that the entire thing was violent, or that a majority or even a large minority participated in violence.
  If there's 100 people at an event, and during this multi-hour event one of them punches somebody, do you say that was a violent event? >
  
  Yeah! Like say for example 10,000 people show up to the US capitol to protest but a riot breaks out. However only 200 or so actually participate in violence and that would involve just a few punches thrown and some barricades broken. Everyone else goes home peacefully. Was it really a violent event? I'd say it was mostly peaceful.
  Yet i have a hunch you'd disagree. >
  
  Sure, the rally that day was mostly peaceful. The multi-hour invasion of the US Capitol subsequent to that seems to be a bigger story than the mostly peaceful rally. >
  
  The rally before the insurrection was chalk full of fearmongering to rile up the masses there. Yea there was no “violence” at the rally but it def led to it. So there’s an element of violence there >
  
  Silly me thinking the police shooting an activist was when it turned violent >
  
  Well, if he hadn't tried to murder police officers first they wouldn't have killed him. So there's that. >
  
  Reports of who shot first differ between the police accounts and what protestors say, so why not take the cops at their word? Not like they’d lie to cover up a murder. >
  
  Why take the protestors at their word?
  And you're implicitly agreeing with police that this guy had a gun too. Which makes police accounts more believable than the mostly peaceful protestor accounts. >
  
  Historical precedent. >
  
  Historical precedent?
  So they are quite likely all lying to make themselves look better.
  As people do… >
  
  "briefly turns violent" is the newspeak for the 2020 "fiery but peaceful" riots. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  What rights do they not have? >
  
  Oh, most of them. They gave us guns instead of freedom so we would feel secure in our ability to protect our lack of healthcare, our state monopoly on violence, and our oligarchy who decide what’s on our tv and in our stores and who gets to run for office. >
  
  You don’t have freedom? >
  
  So I’m out of the loop. The news says that the cops wanted to build a training center, autonomous zone was created on the site, cops go to clear it out & someone shot a cop. They shot back. Shooter was killed. Correct? 
  If so, seems a bad hill to protest on. >
  
  No one believes the protester shot at the cops. They think the cops shot one another while killing this protester. 
  Look at Uvalde. Those cops lied about everything in that shooting and still haven’t released key info about how many children the officers shot and it’s been nearly a year.
  No one believes the cops because all they do is lie and coverup. >
  
  Lots of people in the YouTube comments on this one news story believe them. They’re just lining up to blatantly believe whatever the officers said without any evidence whatsoever or witnesses. Don’t go to those comment sections, those people are so unbelievably sheepy it will make you lose hope in humanity. >
  
  YouTube comments are a hell hole of the mentally unwell. >
  
  Unlike Reddit. We are all mentally stable around these parts. >
  
  We're only marginally better, but better none the less >
  
  I was actually surprised how bad YouTube commenters were. I’m sure they also have a huge bot problem. Reddit is like eons less toxic than YouTube comments. Reddit of course isn’t the greatest in terms of toxicity especially in certain subs but holy cow YouTube is wild. >
  
  Reddit is like a decentralized system where each sub has it's own flavor in a lot of ways. YouTube is still the wild west in terms of every comment section >
  
  Have you considered that maybe the bad people at Occupy were actually just regular bad people and not secret cops instigating fights? There is a lot of documented evidence that Occupy was loaded with opportunistic criminals. I mean, what normal person would camp out in a tent to protest Wall Street?
  This is just schizophrenia lol. >
  
  I'm sorry but did they just say this guy shot an officer? >
  
  "briefly turns violent" when cops fire tear gas and "less lethal" munitions into crowds of protesters >
  
  
  The demonstration started peacefully, then abruptly escalated with some protesters throwing fireworks and rocks and smashing buildings' windows with hammers, according to a Reuters witness.
  As police moved on the marchers, the violence quickly fizzled without anyone injured. A Reuters photographer saw a protester who was carrying a banner being handcuffed by law enforcement. >
  
  IDK, seems like the police could have arrested the people causing mischief instead of declaring the entire protest "violent"
  I mean...
  Police briefly turned violent while chasing Chris Dorner through Los Angeles. They shot up some random blue toyota while looking for a silver nissan, then proceeded to fire tear gas and rounds to ignite a cabin in the woods to kill while using sniper fire to keep chris dorner inside so he would be burned alive. >
  
  There were these people in the YouTube comments on this one news video saying all the protesters, regardless of what they did, including literally just attend, should all have their phone rights taken away and not be allowed to attend any social/public events. Some people are SCARY dystopian. This country was (supposed to be) founded on the idea that you’re allowed to protest the government. >
  
  I bet if you asked those people what should happen to the people who tried to siege the capitol they would scream about how they're tourists and political prisoners. >
  
  Briefly doing a lot of work in that headline >
  
  here’s an article that doesn’t only quote law enforcement >
  
  Just some brief domestic extremist terrorism. >
  
  to be fair every other first world country would riot for less and we'd be proud of them. only Americans are so stupid they think fighting for their rights is a bad thing. >
  
  What right is being violated by a police training facility being built? >
  
  Ah the peaceful protests have returned >
  
  Fiery But Mostly Peaceful >
  
  Deadly but mostly peaceful >
  
  Sounds like that actor. "briefly pulled the trigger" >
  
  Like the mostly peaceful riots? >
  
  Nah, probably just some "legitimate political discourse". >
  
  So guy shoots at cops hitting one. Cops shoot back killing him. And “people” protest?
  Maybe you shouldn’t shoot at cops if you don’t want them to shoot back?
  Please someone explain to me what I’m missing. >
  
  What does “people” mean? They are people…
  And no one’s protesting about the cop getting shot. They’re protesting the forest destruction, and this death has accelerated their protest as it was an avoidable death. >
  
  Sure it was avoidable. Don’t shoot at police. Pretty simple. Would they be having violent protests over just some trees? >
  
  oh look antifa and BLM riots....is anyone surprised >
  
  You don’t care about our people do you >
  
  Briefly turns violent must be the new mostly peaceful. >
  
  The "activist" shot a cop.. >
  
  Right.. 
  No body cam footage and rumors that the cops shot their own.
  And the protestors say they only had a bb gun. >
  
  Only had a BB gun?  Don't aim a BB gun at a cop.  You're gonna lose.
  And Georgia troopers don't wear body cams.  Get out and vote for state representatives that will put body cams on your troopers. >
  
  This is r news, not r Georgia.
  
  And Georgia troopers don't wear body cams. 
  
  No excuse for police departments. 
  
  Don't aim a BB gun at a cop. You're gonna lose.
  
  Who said anyone pointed a bb gun at a cop? The report stated they recovered a number of items from the site, including a bb gun, and an "edged' weapon. The protestors said they didn't have firearms other than the one bb gun. >
  
  Must have misunderstood you:
  
  And the protestors say they only had a bb gun.
  
  What are you referring to?
  And what report? >
  
  The report from the GBI 🤣
  
  Additionally, mortar style fireworks, multiple edged weapons, pellet rifles, gas masks, and a blow torch were recovered. There were three people who were contacted who provided their names to authorities and were free to go.
  
  The cops and protestors have accurate statements regarding the bb gun. The conflicting accounts come from the shooting itself, which we will never know the truth since the officers lacked bodycams. >
  
  I'm aware of the report from the GBI.
  Cops have planted guns and drugs on people and caught themselves with their own bodycams and dashcams. I'm not going to blindly take their word.
  I really don't care about the protestors. I actually think they are a bunch of idiots. My issue lies with the officers lacking any form of accountability that can back up their actions and statements. We should hold them to a higher standard. >
  
  Look, we agree on nearly 100% of this.  All cops should wear body cams.  That decision and funding comes from voters and our local lawmakers.  It doesn't come from the Chief of Police or the Director of Public Safety (or whatever they call it).
  Get out and vote.  Believe it or not, most cops are in it for the right reasons.  Most cops want accountability and would happily wear body cams.  When accountability isn't the issue, it's a great training tool for them.
  I believe this person shot the trooper and was willing to die for their cause.  But that's my opinion and I have no way to prove or disprove it.  Look at your local agencies.  Find out which ones don't have body cams and call your local lawmaker. >
  
  Do you seriously believe the police wouldn't have body cams if they wanted them? They don't have cams because they don't WANT cameras. >
  
  He shot a State Trooper.  Play stupid games >
  
  Per the article:
  “Officials say Manuel shot first at a state trooper ‘without warning’ and an officer or officers returned fire, but they have produced no evidence for the claim.” >
  
  That undermines the Guardians article if anything, the original release from GBI on the 18th stated they recovered the handgun at the scene along with bullet casings. For the writer of the article on the 20th to just straight up ignore that instead of disputing it does not lend itself to being credible. He went on to say multiple times that GBI hadn't responded to his requests for information despite the fact he obviously hasn't even looked at the relevant press releases. That's not even going into the headline.
  This overall gives the image that the writer did not do their research and instead focused on a single view point to the exclusion of the other. That's fine when giving an opinion, not so fine when your a journalist. >
  
  This is like saying a sexual encounter briefly turned violent. >
  
  What does this comment mean and why are people upvoting it >
  
  It’s sounds kind of smart at quick glance but upon further thought it’s a terrible analogy. >
  
  Yeah wild I got so downvoted for pointing out the same thing >
  
  Why can’t we call these people what they clearly are?  Domestic terrorists. >
  
  Violent attack on the capital by hundreds = normal day tourism and/or citizens presenting grievances.
  Lone protester (allegedly) shoots a single police officer = terrorism.
  At least the lines are being defined. >
  
  the people who attacked the capital are still actively being tracked down and charged what are you even talking about. >
  
  Peaceful gun owner briefly goes on murder spree >
  
  Donald Trump supporters give brief self guided tour of US Capitol. >
  
  Atlanta RIOT. 
  There, fixed it for you.