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  in your behavior...
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  If you're talking about conscious prejudice I agree 110%. 
  But analyzing your behavior to try to determine what is in your subconscious seems unhealthy. Personally, as someone who's suffered with OCD and anxiety it seems a bit obsessive to me. Many people with OCD and anxiety, myself included, hyper analyze the behavior of others to "figure out" what they are thinking. 
  It's like going ghost hunting and assuming ghosts are everywhere since I have no way of knowing where they are. 
  Also, if it's subconscious how exactly do I change it? Say I think that maybe I locked my car door because I passed a black man and there's some prejudice towards black people in my subconscious. Do I now say "ok every time I see a black person I'm going to unlock my car door. Is that a healthy behavior/mindset? >
  
  Is introspection really that wild of a concept? I've always just assumed most people do it. >
  
  So, your CMV is "Prejudice is bad, and we should try to not be bad."
  Well, yeah.   Of course.
  I mean, that's a more of a universal truth than a view. >
  
  No it's, we are all prejudice and should be aware of it. >
  
  And you want to be convinced that we aren't all prejudiced, or that we are all aware of it? >
  
  That we are not all subconsciously prejudice due to the way our brain is designed. >
  
  Baby is raised in captivity and never sees another human.
  Whom are they subconsciously prejudiced to, on account of their brain design? >
  
  Ah fuck you, that's clever. The babies brain is still technically wired that way but because it never saw a human it never developed the prejudices I claim all humans must have.
  !delta For being very clever and pointing out a hole in my wording. >
  
  I dont think this deserves a delta. It’s a semantic loophole. I think it’s obvious you are speaking about humans who live in society >
  
  The semantic loophole is my fault, a person should not have to make guesses about what another person is trying to argue. 
  This sub would be a much healthier place for discourse if people learned to read as closely and literally as this guy. >
  
  I guess I'll extend it simply to:
  Everyone who can healthily do this.
  On an off note, the fact that you're worried at all about this means you're doing more than almost the entire population. Most people get deeply offended when I even bring up the fact that we have this natural subconscious bias. >
  
  Should we try to remove positive prejudice as well?  For example, i tend to think positively of people who are in shape.  Is this something that I should try to get rid of? >
  
  No, certainly not. >
  
  But cant you make an argument that by being favorable towards people who are in shape, i might be subconsciously penalizing those that are not? >
  
  Sure, but that's reasonable. People who are in shape are much more responsible people, they worked for that status. >
  
  Wait what? I think you just showed your own unconscious bias that up you should introspect on. Why do you think all in shape people are more responsible than out of shape people? Is being in shape the only way to being responsible? Is it definitive? 
  They could be in shape but still eat crap food and not 
  Work out much outside of their job. Have bad health, etc. have bad finances, be irresponsible with their family, friend, and work obligations, etc. Be a net drain on society. Maybe at best they work out. 
  Whereas an out of shape person could get healthy checkups, have a good job that they work hard at. Be responsible in their family, friend, and work obligations. Have good credit. Be productive for society.
  Which ones more responsible? Why is it okay to have bias towards the in shape person and against the out of shape person? >
  
  I think you miss the nuance between prejudice and first impressions. In many cases a prejudice can also be very helpful >
  
  Most people with productive / active lives don't have time for that. If you have the time and energy go ahead but that also implies that you can probably allocate more resources to being productive. Its not just about what people should do, its an allocation of time / energy / and attention. >
  
  So you think productive people do not have time for introspection?
  I would argue most successful people are probably a lot more introspective than unsuccessful ones, and that the opposite is true. >
  
  Introspection is as vast a category as external observation. This is one of billions of things to introspect about. Yes a productive person does not have time for it, even if they are active at introspection. >
  
  Nah, that's just a ridiculous claim. The idea that people who are already introspective about their behavior can't think of something else to look out for is just silly and we both know it. >
  
  It is not a ridiculous claim, it is not silly, and we do not both know it. >
  
  Introspection already involves asking what made us behave a certain way, adding in one more possibility out of thousands and thousands of already existing ones will cost no time.
  It is an incredibly silly claim, cartoonish almost. >
  
  Are you an extrovert? It seems like you have a simplified perspective of introspection, one common to those who do not spend much time in the inner world. I would recommend reading Jung to grasp 'introspection' in a higher resolution. >
  
  Ad hominem, and no I'm rather extroverted. >
  
  
  no I'm rather extroverted
  
  Yes extroverts have trouble introspecting thus they have simplified views of the inner world.
  
  Ad hominem
  
  The claim I am making has to do with you, it would be an Ad hominem if the context did not involve yourself yet I discounted it on that basis. >
  
  What do you propose to actively fight this bias? >
  
  Like I said, look out for them and try to correct them and not behave in that way. >
  
  But they are subconscious so how do you know when you are acting that way? >
  
  ...
  You...
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  Look for them... >
  
  Where? In my wallet?