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  Agreed. I normally don't like popping conspiracy theories, but how did NARA not know they were missing? It sounds like they were smuggled out.
context: Yeah former journalist here: this story reeks of ...something. NBC News Exclusive with a one source on background so deep there's no attributable information including an overview of possible job title? No additional information is known by this single source, as evidenced by this:
  
  The classification level, number and precise location of the additional documents was not immediately clear. It also was not immediately clear when the additional documents were discovered and if the search for any other classified materials Biden may have from the Obama administration is complete.
  
  When you get info like this, you want it backed up by at least one other source, even if they also remain anonymous. It's most likely that what's being reported is true and that's why they're running with it but my post-Judith Miller journalism education means my spidey sense is tingling on this one. Call it racing for a scoop, call it inadequate sourcing, I just hope they can back this one up better than they did in their public reporting. If this turns out to be inaccurate it's unfathomably bad >
  
  Formal journalist here, this story reeks of typical conservative whataboutism. >
  
  All this starting right as the new house takes over is not naturally impossible but is incredibly suspicious as well. >
  
  Get ready for daily "both sides are the same" arguments from the shitty side, for sure. >
  
  They went away? >
  
  The tide had been lower for a while. It's starting to surge again, get your waders ready >
  
  I think they actually recommend full hazmat gear these days, the higher the bsl rating the better. >
  
  
  Biden aides have been sifting through documents stored at locations beyond his former Washington office to determine if there are any other classified documents that need to be turned over to the National Archives and reviewed by the Justice Department, the person familiar with the matter said. >
  
  That was my exact thought when I read the headline. They would much rather find any other outstanding documents right away than have them trickle out unpredictably. >
  
  It could also figured out what happened with the previous documents that caused them to be left behind. It is not like Biden personally keeps track off all the sensitive documents he has, an aide was likely responsible for keeping track of these. That person most likely screwed up. So they might be going through other locations this aide was supposed to manage. >
  
  I can't imagine the amount of shit shuffled in front of you. I could imagine an aid misplacing something and not knowing. 
  Considering they found stuff in Trump's desk would lend me to believe he knew and purposefully kept them. >
  
  It’s okay. Biden said he declassified them by just thinking about them. 
  See how fukking stupid that sounds? >
  
  He was VP and current president so technically not as crazy. >
  
  Sorry, Obama just thought about it and declassified them. Now it's the same. >
  
  sorry, Pedro was president at some point and he thought about it. Now it's the same. >
  
  Nuh uh! Obamna wrote on the paper now it's declassified. NOW IT'S THE SAME!! >
  
  Investigate him, but also realize Biden handed the docs over immediately once discovered, while Trump refused to give them back and lied about having given all of them back. Two totally different scenarios IMO. 
  If anything I give Biden credit for owning this despite the fact that it was destined to look really bad for him. >
  
  Too bad the people who are dead set on equating this with Trump don't care about the nuance 😅 >
  
  They don’t and we are all deluding ourselves if we think we can convince them to see a difference that easily >
  
  But there is a way. A way that I like to call, “define the wrong.” >
  
  Is the wrong inadvertently taking classified materials to your office? It might be wrong. But it’s not THE wrong. And maybe former presidents can get a presumption of good faith so long as they cooperate once they realize their mistake. >
  
  But then Trump should not be criticized for initially taking classified documents to MaL and could have been accorded a presumption of good faith that it was an oversight. >
  
  That’s basically what happened. So what then is the wrong? The wrong has to be the refusal to turn over the documents when asked and asked and asked, the obstruction of efforts to get them back.  That’s the wrong. >
  
  Investigate anyone mishandling classified documents and hold them accountable. Simple.
  This isn’t a left or right issue. We all have to follow rules / laws and just because they are in positions of power doesn’t mean they get a pass from following rules / laws. >
  
  The legal precident is no punishment for quickly remedied mistakes. >
  
  Uhh would you consider documents found 6 years after the fact to constitute quick remedy? 
  People are focusing on the presumed quick turnaround from detection to reporting, but you can’t ignore the 6 year period where the documents were undetected.
  The whole issue with classified materials is that it seems very possible someone could have accessed those materials. The longer those documents aren’t properly housed, the more chance of that happening. 
  So yeah, obviously this isn’t the same situation as Trump where they were deliberately stonewalling the authorities on returning documents they all knew existed, it’s still not a situation I’d characterize as being remedied “quickly”. >
  
  
  Uhh would you consider documents found 6 years after the fact co statute quick remedy?
  
  Yes.  If they found them, and they immediately (within reason, of course) report them and turn them in, they are remedying it as quickly as possible.
  Unless, of course, you're implying they should have remedied the situation before they were aware of it? >
  
  No, don't you get it?
  Biden did it and is a Democrat, so he needs to be held accountable.
  Nevermind the Coup that we're letting the entire Republican party get away with.
  I'm all for accountability, but if we're just going to ignore 1/6, I think I can ignore these documents. >
  
  A number of people have been arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced for the crimes they committed on 1/6.  The January 6th commission referred potential charges to the DOJ for Trump's actions in the lead up to 1/6.  And Trump is likely going to be indicted for the classified documents he took and improperly stored.  Biden shouldn't be able to escape accountability just because he is on team blue. >
  
  How many of these from 1/6 have been tried for Treason, the charge they should have received? 
  Accountability starts there. >
  
  1/6 deserved a military response from Biden, day one. >
  
  While I *think* I know what you mean, Biden wasn't the current President on January 6th. He had no standing authority over the military. >
  
  Correct. Day one of his presidency. >
  
  Republicans will have permanent difficulty understanding the difference between two scenarios: 
  One, where the National Archives tells Biden all documents appear to be accounted for; then years later Biden's people volunteer the information that they discovered potentially classified materials in an office space no longer used and use due diligence to make sure any other unrecovered documents are found and turned over..
  ...And the National Archives asking another former President to return documents they know he still has not returned, told he doesn't have them, then told he has them but they are not securely stored, told he has now locked them in a room that is supposedly controlled access, has his property raided to recover them where documents are also recovered located elsewhere, is told the documents aren't classified because he declassified them without telling anyone else who is part of the declassification process and supposedly did this back when he was still President, told them a special counsel is needed to review all documents recovered before any of them can be reviewed by the investigators since they may have non-classified materials, and may still have more unrecovered documents stashed away in a location that is extremely difficult to get a proper warrant to check since it requires exhuming a grave located on private property.
  It's essentially the same thing. If anything, what Biden did was far worse. /s >
  
  Suspicious timing considering Trump's own problems? But Biden is returning them instead of hoarding them like the cheeto >
  
  Yup. Odd that they are only popping up now. >
  
  I’m guessing that finding the first batch led to a broad search of other locations to make sure nothing else was left behind. >
  
  It says as much in the article. >
  
  Was there ketchup on any of them >
  
  
  SEE BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME! TRUMP DID NOTHIGN WRONG!!!111
  
  -every Right Winger as they ignore the glaring differences between Trump and Biden's behavior and cooperation level in returning said documents.
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  Expect nothing but pure bad faith and weaponized cynicism from the Right at all times. You will never be disappointed. >
  
  Honestly I feel like one was just incompetence and the other COULD be classified as a traitorous act. >
  
  That's it - one was by design for who knows what purpose. >
  
  Guys, keep in mind some of the languages being used by commenters here.
  “Took, blatant disregard, there goes prosecution, investigate someone, hold someone accountable, etc.”
  Seems like the trolls are already rolling in trying to control the narrative of this >
  
  yeah I'm seeing a lot more right wing talking points on this thread than normally is on this sub, meaning at least higher up in the comment chains. I suspect that will be happening a lot with this subject. >
  
  This is great! Now republicans are forced to admit that taking classified documents is a crime, and they already established that a sitting president can’t be indicted.. which only leaves Trump to be indict and prosecuted. Checkmate. >
  
  Lol. You expect the GOP to follow standard logic? >
  
  Odd that they're popping up now, given the circumstances.
  Even odder how they all seem to only deal directly with Biden and nothing else.
  Even odder when you consider a large part of the secret service decided to delete their own texts when ordered to produce them before the January 6th committee and are likely still loyal to the man who attempted a coup and remain so suspect that the current president has indicated multiple times that he doesn't trust them.
  Just odd. >
  
  I wouldn't be surprised at all if these fucking things were planted. It's just way too coincidental to happen right now, after Trump was caught red handed. Especially since it's well documented that the Obama administration absolutely had no problem following rules regarding these things and working with the national archives in the past. >
  
  Especially if they National Archives didn't know they were missing. >
  
  This is what’s got my eyebrow raised. >
  
  
  The chair and vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee have written to Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines asking for access to the classified documents, a damage assessment by the intelligence community and a briefing on both the Biden and Trump documents, three congressional staffers said. This request is similar to how the committee requested information after the raid at Mar-a-Lago, former President Donald Trump's resort in Florida, the staffers said.
  Sauber said Biden's lawyers immediately reached out to National Archives about the find, and the agency took control of the documents the next day.
  
  =/= >
  
  Guaranteed they are notes on the the CIA's assessment of the contents of Angela Merkel's stool. >
  
  A relative works at the Archives. RIGHT AFTER the November election, they started receiving FOIA requests from Republicans. It is a revenge tour. >
  
  It seems like the President's Aides went to check just in case if they'd miss some more. Means they were trying to be responsible and not to hide anything. >
  
  The FBI really just needs to automatically scrub the offices of every politician before they leave office.
  They either don't know what classified info is or they're hoarding it for some reason. >
  
  Yeah. I couldn’t fucking care less. The story wasn’t that Trump had classified docs, the story is that he lied and lied and lied and when you thought he was done, he lied some more. >
  
  i would just like to remind people that there is currently no evidence at all that biden had a hand in this. This is just an old office that he used to occupy. There is no indication whatsoever that these documents were taken by biden or that he instructed people to take them (unlike trump who did both) >
  
  No evidence except the whole thing where they found classified documents in two locations. 
  Both Trump and Biden should be investigated equally. 
  I think the bigger issue here is that these documents are leaving locations they shouldn’t. >
  
  
  No evidence except the whole thing where they found classified documents in two locations.
  
  This second one has absolutely no sourcing as of yet. These articles so far are as close to 'maybe' as you can get before being tabloids. 
  As for the first set of documents the person you are responding to is absolutely correct. There is no evidence Biden knew or directed someone to take the documents. His staff while VP had security clearances and could have had the documents to brief him on something and didn't return them. There is a lot of explanations that don't include him, especially since this was at an office of his.
  *this is not to say he didn't know, or he wasn't the person. This is to say it is entirely possible he didn't know. >
  
  Agreed. Why I said they both need to be investigated. 
  But maybe someone needs to check boxes and bags when people leave the building! >
  
  I would be shocked (in terms of Bidens issue) if he wasn't allowed to have documents at satellite offices.
  but yes, for a very long time we have known actual security with the White House is absolutely shit (Bush's own people were using non white house email addresses even so at least that far back) and some serious updates need done. And it needs to be done through laws that can hold even the president accountable. >
  
  I smell a setup..,.,