comment: >
  
  "Mom, I want to go to Berkeley for college!"
  "We have Berkeley at home."
context: "In one message, Wu allegedly wrote “post more, I will chop your bastard hands off.” Wu also allegedly told the victim that he had contacted law enforcement officials in China about the flier and that they would “greet” the victim’s family there. "
  I'm not sure why the top comments are so glib.  These were ugly, violent and credible threats to someone and their family.  I hope law enforcement takes it seriously. >
  
  Hopefully they throw the book at them and they get 5 years in prison. After that, you would hope they would be immediately deported. Getting to study abroad in almost any capacity is a privilege that should be reserved for non-violent individuals at the very least. >
  
  Deported is one possible idea, but I'm thinking  that ADX Florence, seems more appropriate. With quality of life linked to receiving positive updates regarding  the safety and security of those threatened in china >
  
  So any person guilty of menacing or threatening gets sent to the securest supermax in the world? >
  
  No just Chinese simps >
  
  Man, I really hope he gets indicted and gets a solid sentence. This could set a really important precedent of Chinese nationalist influence in the US, perhaps we could even start more aggressively pursuing the "shadow police stations" around the country as well? >
  
  Want to send a message? Start arresting those Chinese police officers when they go out to threaten someone.
  Do it very publicly in full view of the community. Then hand out fliers stating that if a Chinese police officer is seen in the area to call the real police. >
  
  That’s… that’s how you get Chinese people being targeted and attacked in the streets for being “spies” >
  
  No that’s how you let American citizens of Chinese decent and those who came here to escape tyranny that we will shelter and protect them from the CCP’s illegal actions. 
  Any action your talking about should be met with the same open and public response that attacking people of asian decent is wrong. >
  
  This isn't a TV show and us police forces couldn't give two shits about a Chinese person, citizen or not. >
  
  
  This isn't a TV show and us police forces couldn't give two shits about a Chinese person, citizen or not
  
  The cops don't give two shits about people who aren't in their gang as a whole.
  But that's besides the point. All I see being offered as an alternative is "Do nothing." >
  
  This is becoming the norm.
  There was an incident at Cornell where a bunch of PRC students caused a huge fuss over a Uyghur student asking a question. One day someone will get killed. >
  
  Gross. Fuck that noise!
  This is one of the few times I get crazy patriotic. >
  
  Damn! I thought Canada was the cool North American country. >
  
  We are the 51 state, my friend. We just seem different because the whole of canada doesn't have much more population that California. >
  
  Good.  Shit like this pisses me off to no end. You’re not IN China right now, motherfucker.  You wanna do shit like this?  Go back there, right after you serve your sentence (if convicted). >
  
  It definitely wasn't Guns n' Roses' best work, but it certainly isn't something to threaten someone for. >
  
  Yeah, it's no Appetite for Destruction, but it's above The Spaghetti Incident, for sure. Axl spent too long playing with the post-production. It could have been released 5 years earlier. >
  
  I'm sorry, but did you both have a stroke? >
  
  The Strokes were nice enough, but rather lightweight.  If we're looking at early 00's rock, I prefer The Hives. >
  
  I'm just gonna Wooosh myself because I have no idea what is going on. >
  
  I think you are correct here.  What's going on was definitely one of Marvin Gaye's most impactful recordings. >
  
  Alexa stop. >
  
  Good. A lot of universities are sweeping targeted harassment like this under the bus.  China has been repeatedly caught trying to bully kids in America from criticizing them, usually by using friendly students as spies who report back to the State and facilitate threats against the kid's parents 
  Institutions want to take tuition money from wealthy Chinese parents while promising diversity and equal protection to all other API students. >
  
  It's insane how CCP propaganda has distorted some people's minds into believing that democracy is a horrible thing. The scary thing is that there are individuals here in the US who believe the same exact thing about our democracy, and would love to see fascism installed in it's place >
  
  I think this is less about political ideology and more about blind patriotism. The reasoning goes: Person attacks Chinese government, I love China, I equate Chinese government with China, therefore, that person hates China, and I hate that person. >
  
  I think they both love china they just have different ideas of what government would better for the country they both love. >
  
  Only my way is good. If you not think my way, you are evil. There is only room for my good to exist. >
  
  china isn't the one who has been overthrowing governments for its entire existence like the US has though. >
  
  China does this through overt means by way of debt traps, forcing foreign governments to agree to loan terms that they are guaranteed to default on. This is just one example on the top of my mind. >
  
  Not a China defense, doesn’t the West essentially do something similar via IMF funding and the World Bank?
  Both were used liberally to exploit the resources of developing countries + their control over them. >
  
  Ya I think you're right. This came up at some point in 2022 regarding IMF lending issues. No idea what that was though >
  
  Throw the book at him and deport him afterward.  And put him on that no-fly list. >
  
  And pay for his room and board when detained ? >
  
  Xiaolei Wu was reported to have said. "You're no talent!" Before going into a tirade of how he walked Bob Dylan up on stage. >
  
  "You're nothing!" >
  
  Who the hell do you think you are? You’re any kind of artist? Anybody know who you are? Maybe evrybody else wants to enjoy the peace and quiet. This is one of the most important places in North America and who are you? Who are you? You miserable presumptious no talent. You’re no artist. An artist respects the silence, it serves the foundation of creativity. You obviously don’t have the talent. You don’t have enough respect for yourself or other people, or know what it means to respect yourself. In music or any form of creativity. And I’m an NYU fil-school graduate. Sucker. And the School of Visual Art in the Academy of Art University in San Fransisco. You suck. You’re a no talent. If you really have talent, go practice. And then get yourself a gig, instead of ruining the day for everybody down here. You disgrace. You are everything that’s gone wrong in this world. You’re a self consumed, no-talent, mediocre piece of shit. And I’ve earned my right to say it. Okay? In 1975, I walked Bob Dylan up on stage. Who the fuck are you? I knew the Grateful Dead from 1966. Who the fuck are you? You’re nothing. You are nothing. And you will never be anything. Never. How dare you? You miserable, mediocre nothing. Shame on you. You crack a stupid little smile, you little pimp. Go learn to play. You’re flat. You can’t even carry a fucking note. I don’t care about your little horn lip, it doesn’t mean you know how to play. You’re flat. I’ve trained classically, I’ve trained contemporaneously, and you suck. >
  
  A large number of Chinese students are sent to countries around the world not just to study, but to help control the Chinese diaspora. 
  Unfortunately western universities have gotten used to the money Chinese students bring with them, so welcome them with open arms. >
  
  Because there's not a big university culture in most repressed and/or authoritarian states. It's hard to foster the open exchange of new ideas while simultaneously making everyone fall in line and quit thinking. Most well educated people in places like Iran, China, etc. study in Western universities for this reason. >
  
  I move that we should stop allowing students from countries that are totalitarian and actively hostile to democracy for this exact reason.
  I know the thinking is "if we expose them to free thinking, maybe they'll fight for it at home" but history has shown the opposite. Some of the worst dictators in modern history were Western educated - they killed it bc they knew exactly how powerful an educated and free thinking populace is. >
  
  I agree. I see no reason to be allowing Chinese nationals/ non-citizens to live and study here 
  But unfortunately many that come here have tons of money >
  
  Chinese nationalists should be expelled from the United States unless they’re ambassadors or their staff. >
  
  I mean, there are better GunsNRoses albums >
  
  Lock him up,and throw away the key. >
  
  Why?  The album sucked. >
  
  The last Guns n' Roses album?
  I mean, I know they take their music seriously at Berklee but that's a bit extreme. >
  
  Is it really worth threatening someone for liking a Guns N Roses album? >
  
  "Mom, I want to go to Berkeley for college!"
  "We have Berkeley at home." >
  
  It's the Berklee College of Music in Boston, not UC Berkeley. >
  
  Am I the only one that thought “Berklee” was misspelled?  
  ///If one is talking about the Berklee College of music one should just say “college student” or “music student”.  There’s only one Berkeley that comes to peoples minds and everyone knows it. >
  
  Berklee has pumped out a tremendous number of chart-leading artists over the years, especially in recent decades.
  For people who know music, Berklee is as recognizable a name as Berkeley.
  Berklee has 133 alumni artists who collectively have won 320 Grammys.  VERY impressive for ONE school. >
  
  Well, TIL, thanks for the knowledge! >
  
  Come on man; GnR isn’t that bad. >
  
  Wu is pissed because people want to pick their leaders and have some semblance of control over their own lives. 
  Wu is a small-dicked loser with a need to control and lick both assholes and leather. >
  
  I wonder why someone didn’t explain to Mr. Wu how the Second Amendment works and just how much damage a  hollow-point .45 cal can do to a…melon. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ >
  
  China seems like such a good place that shares the ideals of freedom for its citizens.
  We should continue to partner with them and let them get more control over our economy, companies and social values.  Or maybe that is a terrible idea.  Not sure. >
  
  Pretty wild that law enforcement said they’d “greet” the victim &their family. No way should that kind of reach even be entertained as an idea/possibility on US soil. Hopefully they convict for the full 10 years >
  
  Thats a lot of outrage over a crappy Guns N Roses album. >
  
  "In one message, Wu allegedly wrote “post more, I will chop your bastard hands off.” Wu also allegedly told the victim that he had contacted law enforcement officials in China about the flier and that they would “greet” the victim’s family there. "
  I'm not sure why the top comments are so glib.  These were ugly, violent and credible threats to someone and their family.  I hope law enforcement takes it seriously. >
  
  Hopefully they throw the book at them and they get 5 years in prison. After that, you would hope they would be immediately deported. Getting to study abroad in almost any capacity is a privilege that should be reserved for non-violent individuals at the very least. >
  
  Deported is one possible idea, but I'm thinking  that ADX Florence, seems more appropriate. With quality of life linked to receiving positive updates regarding  the safety and security of those threatened in china >
  
  So any person guilty of menacing or threatening gets sent to the securest supermax in the world? >
  
  No just Chinese simps >
  
  Good. A lot of universities are sweeping targeted harassment like this under the bus.  China has been repeatedly caught trying to bully kids in America from criticizing them, usually by using friendly students as spies who report back to the State and facilitate threats against the kid's parents 
  Institutions want to take tuition money from wealthy Chinese parents while promising diversity and equal protection to all other API students. >
  
  Man, I really hope he gets indicted and gets a solid sentence. This could set a really important precedent of Chinese nationalist influence in the US, perhaps we could even start more aggressively pursuing the "shadow police stations" around the country as well? >
  
  Want to send a message? Start arresting those Chinese police officers when they go out to threaten someone.
  Do it very publicly in full view of the community. Then hand out fliers stating that if a Chinese police officer is seen in the area to call the real police. >
  
  That’s… that’s how you get Chinese people being targeted and attacked in the streets for being “spies” >
  
  No that’s how you let American citizens of Chinese decent and those who came here to escape tyranny that we will shelter and protect them from the CCP’s illegal actions. 
  Any action your talking about should be met with the same open and public response that attacking people of asian decent is wrong. >
  
  This isn't a TV show and us police forces couldn't give two shits about a Chinese person, citizen or not. >
  
  
  This isn't a TV show and us police forces couldn't give two shits about a Chinese person, citizen or not
  
  The cops don't give two shits about people who aren't in their gang as a whole.
  But that's besides the point. All I see being offered as an alternative is "Do nothing." >
  
  This is becoming the norm.
  There was an incident at Cornell where a bunch of PRC students caused a huge fuss over a Uyghur student asking a question. One day someone will get killed. >
  
  Gross. Fuck that noise!
  This is one of the few times I get crazy patriotic. >
  
  Damn! I thought Canada was the cool North American country. >
  
  We are the 51 state, my friend. We just seem different because the whole of canada doesn't have much more population that California. >
  
  Throw the book at him and deport him afterward.  And put him on that no-fly list. >
  
  And pay for his room and board when detained ? >
  
  HAHAHAHA you obviously have not had the luxury of eating a whale dick sandwich, or PB&J saltines. Or know how to make pruno. >
  
  Good.  Shit like this pisses me off to no end. You’re not IN China right now, motherfucker.  You wanna do shit like this?  Go back there, right after you serve your sentence (if convicted). >
  
  It definitely wasn't Guns n' Roses' best work, but it certainly isn't something to threaten someone for. >
  
  Yeah, it's no Appetite for Destruction, but it's above The Spaghetti Incident, for sure. Axl spent too long playing with the post-production. It could have been released 5 years earlier. >
  
  It's over produced for sure but I honestly love Chinese Democracy. I've been listening to it again quite a lot lately and I think it's actually a great album. >
  
  I think it would be better regarded if wasn't released as a Guns n' Roses album. It's a solid rock album with some interesting ideas. >
  
  It's insane how CCP propaganda has distorted some people's minds into believing that democracy is a horrible thing. The scary thing is that there are individuals here in the US who believe the same exact thing about our democracy, and would love to see fascism installed in it's place >
  
  I think this is less about political ideology and more about blind patriotism. The reasoning goes: Person attacks Chinese government, I love China, I equate Chinese government with China, therefore, that person hates China, and I hate that person. >
  
  I think they both love china they just have different ideas of what government would better for the country they both love. >
  
  Only my way is good. If you not think my way, you are evil. There is only room for my good to exist. >
  
  China does this through overt means by way of debt traps, forcing foreign governments to agree to loan terms that they are guaranteed to default on. This is just one example on the top of my mind. >
  
  Not a China defense, doesn’t the West essentially do something similar via IMF funding and the World Bank?
  Both were used liberally to exploit the resources of developing countries + their control over them. >
  
  Ya I think you're right. This came up at some point in 2022 regarding IMF lending issues. No idea what that was though >
  
  Xiaolei Wu was reported to have said. "You're no talent!" Before going into a tirade of how he walked Bob Dylan up on stage. >
  
  "You're nothing!" >
  
  Who the hell do you think you are? You’re any kind of artist? Anybody know who you are? Maybe evrybody else wants to enjoy the peace and quiet. This is one of the most important places in North America and who are you? Who are you? You miserable presumptious no talent. You’re no artist. An artist respects the silence, it serves the foundation of creativity. You obviously don’t have the talent. You don’t have enough respect for yourself or other people, or know what it means to respect yourself. In music or any form of creativity. And I’m an NYU fil-school graduate. Sucker. And the School of Visual Art in the Academy of Art University in San Fransisco. You suck. You’re a no talent. If you really have talent, go practice. And then get yourself a gig, instead of ruining the day for everybody down here. You disgrace. You are everything that’s gone wrong in this world. You’re a self consumed, no-talent, mediocre piece of shit. And I’ve earned my right to say it. Okay? In 1975, I walked Bob Dylan up on stage. Who the fuck are you? I knew the Grateful Dead from 1966. Who the fuck are you? You’re nothing. You are nothing. And you will never be anything. Never. How dare you? You miserable, mediocre nothing. Shame on you. You crack a stupid little smile, you little pimp. Go learn to play. You’re flat. You can’t even carry a fucking note. I don’t care about your little horn lip, it doesn’t mean you know how to play. You’re flat. I’ve trained classically, I’ve trained contemporaneously, and you suck. >
  
  A large number of Chinese students are sent to countries around the world not just to study, but to help control the Chinese diaspora. 
  Unfortunately western universities have gotten used to the money Chinese students bring with them, so welcome them with open arms. >
  
  I mean, there are better GunsNRoses albums >
  
  Chinese nationalists should be expelled from the United States unless they’re ambassadors or their staff. >
  
  Them too. >
  
  Because there's not a big university culture in most repressed and/or authoritarian states. It's hard to foster the open exchange of new ideas while simultaneously making everyone fall in line and quit thinking. Most well educated people in places like Iran, China, etc. study in Western universities for this reason. >
  
  I move that we should stop allowing students from countries that are totalitarian and actively hostile to democracy for this exact reason.
  I know the thinking is "if we expose them to free thinking, maybe they'll fight for it at home" but history has shown the opposite. Some of the worst dictators in modern history were Western educated - they killed it bc they knew exactly how powerful an educated and free thinking populace is. >
  
  I agree. I see no reason to be allowing Chinese nationals/ non-citizens to live and study here 
  But unfortunately many that come here have tons of money >
  
  Pretty wild that law enforcement said they’d “greet” the victim &their family. No way should that kind of reach even be entertained as an idea/possibility on US soil. Hopefully they convict for the full 10 years >
  
  Lock him up,and throw away the key. >
  
  Why?  The album sucked. >
  
  The last Guns n' Roses album?
  I mean, I know they take their music seriously at Berklee but that's a bit extreme. >
  
  Is it really worth threatening someone for liking a Guns N Roses album? >
  
  This is such a sad irony that never seems to get through. When Hong Kong was making their last stand there were protests abroad in support of China. So less just noodle it for a second... People in Hong Kong want freedom, they are exercising free speech in the form of protest against people who are trying to take it away. Chinese nationals leave their country and go abroad and enjoy more freedoms. They exercise free speech in the form of protest against people who want the same freedoms they now enjoy. This is the same thing with the sad truth of China supporting Russia. I ask the Chinese "So given the chance to have freedom, you would decline? You don't want freedom?" In supporting Russia over Ukraine you are essentially lobbying against something you want. Yes, I know they are brainwashed and don't know any better, but that's not an excuse to ignore reality when presented with it. >
  
  Am I the only one that thought “Berklee” was misspelled?  
  ///If one is talking about the Berklee College of music one should just say “college student” or “music student”.  There’s only one Berkeley that comes to peoples minds and everyone knows it. >
  
  Berklee has pumped out a tremendous number of chart-leading artists over the years, especially in recent decades.
  For people who know music, Berklee is as recognizable a name as Berkeley.
  Berklee has 133 alumni artists who collectively have won 320 Grammys.  VERY impressive for ONE school. >
  
  Well, TIL, thanks for the knowledge!