>

He will need to sell a lot of ice cream!
Boy, for people who claim to hate wasteful government spending, they sure spend a lot of time and money on stupid theatrics like this. >

That’s part of the grift.  They give the bid to their donors companies and get paid for install and removal. >

Indeed it doesn't cost 30k per container. 
A new one is 5k and those were not new ones.
Someone did the math and 30k per junk container is what they paid. >

Purchasing the container, transporting the container to remote areas and heavy equipment and manpower.   Add a 75% premium for any government project and you get $30k/ container >

~2k per container, 1k installation fees per container on average and 27k "administration fees" >

It was a grift all along. It cost $95 million for ten miles worth of these. >

40' shipping container is ~2,600$. They did a two stack. 
5280' in mile, or 132 lengths which is 264 containers
10 miles is 2,640 containers. 
Which costs 6,864,000. 
Where the fuck did the other ~88 million go? Can't cost that much labor to just plop a container down! This is a massive grift. >


40' shipping container is \~2,600$

Bro you gotta put me in touch with your shipping container guy, because that is super low.  Especially if you're looking for 2,000 count or more.
I'm sure there's some guy selling one somewhere for $2,600 but that ain't average. >

Even so, for that amount of containers, they'd have to cost more than $35k each to get close to $95m.  If you're paying that much for containers, you definitely need a container guy. >


If you're paying that much for containers, you definitely need a container guy.

Nah my guy is closer to 4.
Not defending Arizona (because fuck that, this idea is manifestly stupid) but also remember that each container does have to be individually delivered, and I doubt the Arizona / Mexico border is near any major ports (but cannot be bothered to check a map nevertheless). >

I got it from a quick googling. normally bulk buys give you discounts, or you would expect it to.   
Doing the math with 4k per really doesn't make it much more sane. 10.5 mill for the containers, 84.5 mil in "other" >

Yeah it's not 'sane' either way - dumb mf'ers built a wall out of shipping containers, after all.  You know, portable units that are designed to resist extreme forces... coming from above or below them?  Look, I don't know maybe they use walls differently in Arizona.
Anyway, a lot of interesting people (I'm looking at you /r/preppers) buy shipping containers for some very unique reasons so you can generally find one or two quite cheap.  I ended up looking into it way too closely is what I'm saying.
Also also, I am generally exceptionally sarcastic and do not (currently) have a shipping container guy, thankfully. >

I’m pretty sure it’s called “creative accounting” or “money laundering” >

Man, I for one am shocked that the state now has to remove the pile of literal garbage it made along the border. >

Follow the money because it smells like corruption. Who was paid to install the wall, who was paid for the containers, who was paid to handle everything. And now who will be paid to remove it. >

Welding together a bunch of useful shipping containers into a huge pile of trash that’s easily toppled over and stops nothing is the exact kind of solution I would expect a Republican to come up with. 
I’m just shocked there wasn’t somebody to fucking stop them before we somehow managed to spend millions of dollars. >

It was never meant to stop anything. Just like bussing migrants around the country wasn't to alleviate anything. It's 100% performative politics. >


It's 100% performative politics.

And corruption. 'Cos someone got paid to supply those containers and put them on the border. And someone's going to get paid to remove them. All by Arizona taxpayers. It's performative politics but it's also corruption. >

If they gave a contract to a certain party for favor/benefit, yeah. But at this point all we know is it is a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. >

What a colossal waste of money and time >

Good thing they took care of all the other issues in that state before wasting millions on that stunt.  People should go to jail. >

Shipping containers aren't cheap. The border itself is federal property. They should have just seized the shipping containers and auctioned them off. "Thanks for the donation, Arizona" >

I think they fucked them up though like welding them together and shit >

I'm sure they could be fixed. Even the scrap is valuable if not. >

I’m sure you’re right that it’s wasteful but in order to get any value from the scrap they’d have to deal with the whole process of getting contractors to bid to tear it down and remove it and the overhead of all of that could be too costly to be worth any money they’d get from the scrap itself, tons of labor cost to disassemble it in a way that preserves the containers for use. In a perfect world I agree with you that it shouldn’t all be wasted but with how wasteful the government is on projects like this in general I see why they may have run those calculations and decided it wasn’t worth the hassle >

fucking losers out losing. what a waste of time. >

Good. All it does is damage the environment further, seclude animals from proper nourishment, doesn’t stop illegal border crossing and instead forces them to use other routes more often. 
It does nothing except be an eye sore. >

Anyone who wants to cross them just climbs them >

Yeah, the ground isn't flat so they don't line properly.
You can just climb the little V is makes in between containers. >

Make the governor be on the hook for the costs for this useless and stupid stunt, and we're close to achieving justice here. >

He will need to sell a lot of ice cream! >

What a waste of money >

Ffs they'd rather look at that disaster than human beings who are fleeing horrible scenarios. >

The feds should seize the containers, sell them, and fine the people responsible for dumping on federal land. >

Republicans love to waste money on culture war bullshit >

Is this really why I couldn’t ship anything on time in 2020 and 2021? >

I guess this distraction and grift show is over. 
Dark Money Ducey is errand boy #1. >

They need to remove the border ceiling as well. >

Did they get Mexico to pay for it? >

Remember when those idiots lapped that up >

Again, my comment is I am ashamed of my state. We are consistently the laughing stock of the US. Governor Dushe bag, don’t let the door hit you on….never mind. Let it hit you. >

This is all theater. Most illegal immigrants and overstayers enter the US through airports. All has doing is pandering to his hateful, ignorant base. >

Performative bullshit? Conservative "plans" in action. >

Good.  this was never about border control or security.  It was a theatrical stunt used to make smoothbrains drool in delight and vote R. >

What a waste they were.   All those Gen Z and Millennial starter homes going unused. >

What do you mean? This is a future site for housing the GenZs lol >

It was a joke about the tiny home movement the media is preconditioning us for because the majority of future generations will never afford houses again. >

Between work and my hobbies, I really only use my home to sleep. I would happily pay a reasonable price to own a shipping-container sized room.
I just need a bed, a toilet, and a place for my book/vinyl record shelves. >

Look at the big, evil federal government, forcing AZ to get rid of all of that affordable housing! /s >

The GQP appears to be backfiring on all cylinders! >

Cool now undo the one Gregg Abbott put up in Texas this week. >

But irreparable environmental damage has already been done. >

And part of the deal was of them removing them that the federal government will finish the wall in Tucson and someplace else I'm not sure. >

This is fraud disguised as a political charade >

Take THAT, Doug Douchey! >

I wish there were good people as part of this. I would suggest using those to repurpose into some kind of temporary housing. Convert them into small homes with power, running water, etc.. Would help others, though, so it wouldn't be a GOP initiative. Wouldn't do it in the US because fuck the homeless. Wouldn't do it in Mexico, because fuck them, too. 
Yes, it'd cost money. The whole "Who'd pay for it?" thing. Easy. Same people that paid for the wasteful spending putting them there in the first place. >

Know wonder the price of shipping containers went up. Could that be considered manipulating the market price when it was known, there was a shortage of shipping containers >

So they’re paying back the taxpayers dollars too right?  Right?! >

Should leave it as a monument. >

Sad people doing inhumane foolish things. We as humans must get a grip on how other humans are to be cared for in an unjust, violent world. Because we’re doing it wrong. >

I think they should just sent these containers to Massachusetts. Seems to be the trend these days. >

Boy, for people who claim to hate wasteful government spending, they sure spend a lot of time and money on stupid theatrics like this. >

That’s part of the grift.  They give the bid to their donors companies and get paid for install and removal. >

Indeed it doesn't cost 30k per container. 
A new one is 5k and those were not new ones.
Someone did the math and 30k per junk container is what they paid. >

Purchasing the container, transporting the container to remote areas and heavy equipment and manpower.   Add a 75% premium for any government project and you get $30k/ container >

~2k per container, 1k installation fees per container on average and 27k "administration fees" >

It was a grift all along. It cost $95 million for ten miles worth of these. >

40' shipping container is ~2,600$. They did a two stack. 
5280' in mile, or 132 lengths which is 264 containers
10 miles is 2,640 containers. 
Which costs 6,864,000. 
Where the fuck did the other ~88 million go? Can't cost that much labor to just plop a container down! This is a massive grift. >


40' shipping container is \~2,600$

Bro you gotta put me in touch with your shipping container guy, because that is super low.  Especially if you're looking for 2,000 count or more.
I'm sure there's some guy selling one somewhere for $2,600 but that ain't average. >

Even so, for that amount of containers, they'd have to cost more than $35k each to get close to $95m.  If you're paying that much for containers, you definitely need a container guy. >


If you're paying that much for containers, you definitely need a container guy.

Nah my guy is closer to 4.
Not defending Arizona (because fuck that, this idea is manifestly stupid) but also remember that each container does have to be individually delivered, and I doubt the Arizona / Mexico border is near any major ports (but cannot be bothered to check a map nevertheless). >

I got it from a quick googling. normally bulk buys give you discounts, or you would expect it to.   
Doing the math with 4k per really doesn't make it much more sane. 10.5 mill for the containers, 84.5 mil in "other" >

Yeah it's not 'sane' either way - dumb mf'ers built a wall out of shipping containers, after all.  You know, portable units that are designed to resist extreme forces... coming from above or below them?  Look, I don't know maybe they use walls differently in Arizona.
Anyway, a lot of interesting people (I'm looking at you /r/preppers) buy shipping containers for some very unique reasons so you can generally find one or two quite cheap.  I ended up looking into it way too closely is what I'm saying.
Also also, I am generally exceptionally sarcastic and do not (currently) have a shipping container guy, thankfully. >

I’m pretty sure it’s called “creative accounting” or “money laundering” >

Man, I for one am shocked that the state now has to remove the pile of literal garbage it made along the border. >

Follow the money because it smells like corruption. Who was paid to install the wall, who was paid for the containers, who was paid to handle everything. And now who will be paid to remove it. >

Welding together a bunch of useful shipping containers into a huge pile of trash that’s easily toppled over and stops nothing is the exact kind of solution I would expect a Republican to come up with. 
I’m just shocked there wasn’t somebody to fucking stop them before we somehow managed to spend millions of dollars. >

It was never meant to stop anything. Just like bussing migrants around the country wasn't to alleviate anything. It's 100% performative politics. >


It's 100% performative politics.

And corruption. 'Cos someone got paid to supply those containers and put them on the border. And someone's going to get paid to remove them. All by Arizona taxpayers. It's performative politics but it's also corruption. >

If they gave a contract to a certain party for favor/benefit, yeah. But at this point all we know is it is a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. >

What a colossal waste of money and time >

Good thing they took care of all the other issues in that state before wasting millions on that stunt.  People should go to jail. >

Shipping containers aren't cheap. The border itself is federal property. They should have just seized the shipping containers and auctioned them off. "Thanks for the donation, Arizona" >

I think they fucked them up though like welding them together and shit >

I'm sure they could be fixed. Even the scrap is valuable if not. >

I’m sure you’re right that it’s wasteful but in order to get any value from the scrap they’d have to deal with the whole process of getting contractors to bid to tear it down and remove it and the overhead of all of that could be too costly to be worth any money they’d get from the scrap itself, tons of labor cost to disassemble it in a way that preserves the containers for use. In a perfect world I agree with you that it shouldn’t all be wasted but with how wasteful the government is on projects like this in general I see why they may have run those calculations and decided it wasn’t worth the hassle >

fucking losers out losing. what a waste of time. >

Good. All it does is damage the environment further, seclude animals from proper nourishment, doesn’t stop illegal border crossing and instead forces them to use other routes more often. 
It does nothing except be an eye sore. >

Anyone who wants to cross them just climbs them >

Yeah, the ground isn't flat so they don't line properly.
You can just climb the little V is makes in between containers. >

Make the governor be on the hook for the costs for this useless and stupid stunt, and we're close to achieving justice here.