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In the story, one who killed 3 people while DUI in 2017 is still awaiting trial?? I know the courts are slow, but 5 years?
I thought it was 7 DUIs in 2022, but no, that's just in the last TWO WEEKS! >

"Officers driving under the influence while off-duty has been a persistent problem at the LAPD for many years, blamed by some department insiders on wildly inconsistent punishments for officers caught-in-the-act..."
You don't say. >

It’s a problem in every department, especially small rural departments. Shit, in those departments the cops are drunk on duty. We need to start holding police officers to the same standards we hold average citizens. >

No, we need to hold them to higher standards. 
I don’t know about you, but I don’t run around with a gun always on my person and a full blown assault kit in my car. I don’t ruin people’s entire lives with my judgment calls. And I don’t end people’s freedom and prospects for a decent life.  
They need to be held to a higher standard than the average person because they’ve been entrusted with great power. Power they’ve shown they are not fit to wield >

I wholeheartedly agree.
The only problem is, how do we police the police? Their internal affairs department isn’t doing enough to weed out their “bad apples,” and the average citizen is too busy working (hello student debt, medical bills, unaffordable housing, rising gas and food prices) to attend town hall meetings or disciplinary hearings for officers. 
Again, I’m not disagreeing with you, but that’s one very large obstacle. >

The answer is the installation of a non-biased department that has no partisan or police affiliation, that withholds the PD to the standards, practices, and laws they must abide by. 
A few problems:
1. The police is not going to want that. 
2. Who installs them anyway?
3. Pay comes from... the taxpayers? Sure as hell ain't going to come from the police budget (see #1).
There's definitely more, but I'm not coffee'd yet. >

If it works it can be funded by the lack of lawsuits against police. >

Sooo... The taxpayers?
And that's going to come from the form of a mileage or a state bill. No one's going to like paying additional taxes. >

In saying the lack of oversight is already a drain on taxpayers money >

My mom’s a teacher and one of her student’s dad was a cop who was drinking and driving and hit and killed a friend of hers on the road. >

My dad was a cop and worked with a guy who cracked beers on his drive home after every shift. >

Did your dad arrest him? >

I wonder if there's a handy acronym to describe this widespread problem. >

All Dads Are Bastards >

They should lose their licenses at a minimum. No excuse as a cop for that. They know VERY WELL the repercussions. >

If only they needed state licensing to be cops, like so many other professions.
Maybe include minimum continuing Ed requirements, possibly even some ethics requirements. >

I thin he meant take their driver's license away. Can't be a cop ifyou can't make it to work.
Edit: sp >

Yeah you can. It's called driving to work without a license and being on desk duty. That's with full pay of course >

Fair. It's not like these guys need to follow the rules or anything. >

Connecticut recently had a state trooper commit a DUI hit-and-run in their cruiser.
We need to take D.A.R.E out of the elementary schools and put it in the police academy. >

the problem is that dare has and always will be a failure it is the ultimate 'feel good' thing that has the reverse effect. Seriously the whole have an officer show up and tell kids that if they have one sip of beer then BOOM! frank Gallagher or if you simply see marijuana then boom living under the bridge addicted to "ice" tends to downplay the serious drugs when half of the class spends lunch break smoking the 'weed-stuff' >

They talk about legal consequences instead of the issues created by drugs use  within personal and professional relationships. They don't speak about how homelessness will affect future prospects and how the people around you will slowly give up on you. DARE has been a long running joke to most people and they haven't done enough to change their image. >

Considering that cops party with cops 2 things. 1. There were people at the party who knew and let this go. 2: there were definitely more cops at those parties that didn’t get caught! >

I'm surprised it wasn't a "they breathalyzed themselves and found no wrong doing" story. >

They were the dicks even the other cops didn't like. >

If the other cops didn't like them they were probably those 7 good apples I keep hearing about. Didn't they murder one during a "training accident" earlier this year? >

Yeah wasnt he accidentally beaten to death >

Yeah I think so. As professionals tend to do in a safe and controlled situation. >

How is this not an automatic firing? >

I assume that you are looking for an answer other than, “Because they’re cops.” >

Just 7 bad apples guys.
7 drinking and driving apples who won't see any repercussions.
Oh well! >

I'm more surprised the LAPD had 7 cops willing to actually write up another officer for a DUI >

they have no problem with murdering people but they throw everyone under bus for DUIs, very odd indeed. Maybe the 7 that got tagged were somehow singled out because they dont play nice with others. It's a good way  to get everyone to fall in line >

Cops be like “wait, us too” >

My sister's boyfriend was killed by a police officer who was drunk. The other cops arrived and tried to keep him from taking a breathalyzer because they knew it would bee way too high. The state troopers arrived and pushed them out of the way to have it done. Even with trying to wait it out he was way over the limit. If the state troopers didn't intervene the local cops would have made sure the guy was under the limit before he got tested. 
It took years for my sister to finally get a day in court because the local cops tried so hard to "protect their own" from charges. And the final result was just a slap on the wrist. >

To protect and swerve, apparently >

Just sober up with some blow like the rest of the squad >

Don’t forget the hookers. >

They're in the trunk >

🤣🤣🤣 >

Reminding the police about the law. There whole fucking job. >

I literally had a cop yell at me "don't tell me the law, I AM the law" during a traffic stop when he was dead wrong about something he wanted to ticket me for. He of course did anyway and the court dropped that citation like a hot potato, because I was, in fact, correct about a traffic law. Something a state HP guy should be at least passingly familiar with, you'd think. >

Cops are notoriously ignorant when it comes to actual laws, and it doesn't help that the courts decided it's okay for cops to be wrong about the laws they're enforcing. >

There are people who's job it is to know the law and they're called lawyers. I agree cops should be familiar but the bar of knowing the law is too high for a police officer IMO >

This feels like a failing of policing in general. It's not that much of an ask for a police officer to be able to articulate the law that a person is being ticketed/arrested for. It's also a failing that a police officer can just enforce their will against the public regardless if their actions are lawful or not, and the civilian has to argue in court or have a lawyer argue on their behalf to show that the cop's actions indeed were not lawful; and they'll still have to pay court costs. >

Despite best efforts, their system failed to protect 7 from being arrested, out of the many more who do this that we don't know about. >

It's almost like they think they are above the law.. >

The current police situation is so fucked that I almost have to wonder if there’s any chance they weren’t that drunk or were set up/encouraged to do this.  For cop-on-cop punishment.
Like remember what happened to the LASD cop who was “accidentally” killed by a bunch of his own colleagues during an “exercise” just after he spoke out against some police involved in a rape case? 
Either way, it’s bad. Either lots of cops are drunk driving (very likely) or bad cops are ousting better cops. Shame shame shame >

Of course it’s the LAPD >

I'd bet those cops will not be convicted, and are therefore innocent of the charges.
/s, but not /s >

All Cats Are Beautiful. >

Fuck the police. >

Should also probably tell them to stop beating their wives. >

Do laws apply to COPs? Don’t be silly. >

I know, right? If they're saying stupid shit, why not ask cops to follow ALL the laws. Missed opportunity right there. >

How about actually having standards for the animals you fucking hire and give a weapon to?
All cops are fucking bastards. >

Fuck tha police >

Most people who drink and drive aren’t cops >

/r/ACAB >

Do as I say, not what I do mentality of law enforcement nowadays. Bunch of control freaks with a badge and a gun imho >

Can you also remind them that killing people isn't their job?