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Already a part of the EU, which already has mutual defense agreements.
Much, much, cheaper for Russia to eliminate Putin >

Chop off one head and two more will grow in it's place. >

Then make sure the two other heads are afraid to pop up.
Really give off that "this is what happens when you fuck up our sons, future, and the way people look at us" vibes. >

Who's "us?"
The world isn't about the G8 only. >

With us i mean the mothers and fathers of Russia who lost their son. >

Everyone in this thread is focused on Finland, but the order also increases the military to 1.5M active duty. They currently have 1M, so this is increasing their active duty by 50%. There's little reason to think Russia can afford to do this or that the troops will be adequately trained/supplied. I think this is much less likely than a few bases on the Finish border.
Russia currently has a population of ~147M. That means they plan on having 1 out of every hundred citizens being active military. If they're mostly men, that's one out of 50. Subtract the men under 16 and over 60, and you're probably talking one out of every 25. >

The population of Russia had only 6% males between 20-30 years before the war. That is 8.7 million. 2 million fled in April. Leaves 6.7 million. I highly doubt that 35% of those are willing to fight. That would be 1 out of 4. >

They don't have to be willing. It's their great patriotic duty to die for holy mother Russia. Or something. I dunno. The Russian soul and suffering are inextricably linked. >

Who with an actual soul would fight for Putin? >

I do like russian authors. Though I think this russian soul basically comes down to you're fucked if you do and you're fucked if you don't, so put off the ass pounding as long as you can. The dying horse being beaten in Crime and Punishment represents the russian soul. But so too does the evil fuck beating it. 
From what we've seen in Ukraine it feels like the evil fucks make up the larger part of that 'russian soul.' >

Finland should troll them and put dolls on sticks along the border.. in case they needed a reminder. >

The countless graves along the border should do the trick just fine >

also put "REMEMBER 1939" on a big sign >

Shakedown 1939
Cool Finns never have the time
A winter sniper right up off the street
Orkz and Simo should meet >

Suddenly Smashing Pumpkins! >

The world is a a Mannerheim
Sent to brain Soviet drunkards 
Hold you up Molotov flames >

Secret drone destroyer >

Yes, clearly Finland is preparing to invade that shit-hole of a country and must be met with all necessary force to keep that from happening. /s >

Not Finland, but Americans using Finland’s territory. Also they could put those pesky scary Patriots, so better have a million people to invade Finland just in case.
And my ex-colleague is genuinely concerned that Norway will use nuclear weapons to destroy some nuclear power plants in Russia. You can’t make this shit up, vatniks are insane. >

Norway isn't a nuclear country...
?!? >

yet. >

Russia repeating the same mistakes as the USSR, you can't support a modern military without a modern economy. >

non-existent economy. >

They need them there to keep men from leavin Russia. Just like the Soviet times. >


Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in, to prevent them from leaving us. - JFK >

Ich bin ein Berliner. Du bist ein Berliner. 
“I am a jelly doughnut” 
-JFK >

That was a myth that didn’t even get invented until a book in the ’80s. Delicious, but not accurate. It was one of the most important speeches in the Cold War. >

Because winter-time conflict with Finland has always gone so well for Russia in the past… >

Finland should be part of NATO by year end. After that point war is out of the question. But they'll probably build more bases and put more assets at the border because of that. >

Either way, let's hope they don't start poking at Finland. Because, that's alot of Greenhorns Finland would steamroll through once again. >

as much as reddit likes to romanticize the winter war, it was at best a pyrrhic truce for Finland and lost more ground than what they originally would have, had they given into Soviet demands. it is of course, an important precursor to the status quo of the cold war that followed. >

What tells you that Russia would not have just just started a war after Finland gave up territory? The winter War was highly successful and guaranteed for the country of Finland to survive instead of sharing the same fate as the Baltic states for example. >

It's kind of obvious in hindsight that Russia planned to take all of Finland in the Winter War. They even had a puppet government set up on day 1 to rule Finland as part of the Soviet Union. The Finns only survived as an independent state cause they successfully bluffed the Soviets into thinking they still had ammo reserves. If Stalin had known that the Finns only had a few weeks worth of ammo left, then he'd never have signed a peace treaty. >

So most of Russias future trading money will be for military. I really hope the west is not quick to forget that detail >

increase russian army? does he have anyone left? >

I think they’re even sending gamers to the frontlines these days >

CS:GO gonna be just tumbleweeds >

Rush (B)akmuth >

Bakhmut >

yeah lets use that extra manpower for a border with a country that will definitely not invade you and have them just stand around there >

My guess Putin will announce a new and bigger movilización, last time lots of people scaped through the Finland border, so this time they will be prepared to stop that people, I dont think regular army will be doing this, maybe his croonies from Moscow. >

They're going to love Karelia in winter. A seaside getaway! Even colder than Moscow! >

Don't see what could possibly go wrong. >

Russian forces on the Finnish border are tripling in strength, with one gun between every two conscripts instead of every six. Half of those guns will even have ammunition now! >

The troops highly trained in artic warfare and located close to Finland and Norway, Russia's worrying 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade, was exterminated in the battles north of Kharkiv in the first three months of the war.
Russia no longer has any troops able to even try to fight a country like Finland. They are simply dead. >

VDV base in Pskov got emptied as well and if you want to see what happened to them, look at Hostomel adventures. I am glad their better units are getting massacred away from my borders and wish for an immediate stop to this war, full return of Ukraine's sovereignity and a dead Putin and his cronies.
Of course none of that is too realistic so i'm hoping the watermelon seller lets us in NATO sooner rather than later. >

Wait, does this mean the mainland Russian army is so depleted that Finland poses a security risk now? >

To the Russians, we always did.
Lots of trees speaking Finnish along that border. >

To be fair you don't fuck with Ents >

Finland's getting ready to invade, I see. /s
This is nothing more than saber-rattling. >

Or maybe Russia is getting ready to invade. >

With the majority of their focus on Ukraine, RuZZia can't spare the equipment to invade Finland's privacy, right now. >

People thought it would not invade Ukraine because it is too stupid act. >

Yeah, but doing so and performing this badly and then trying it on a nato applicant about to get the approval and who already has security assurances would be epically stupid. >


nato applicant

"Still not in NATO, so we must attack before they become part of NATO"