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I have ADHD and can't focus if my room is a mess-so for me it isn't a waste of time.
So clutter/disorganization makes me anxious- tidiness and making the bed make a huge difference for me >

Same here and generally tidying up quickly so I don't see too much shit lying around. I think some people depend on a tidy space to have good mental health :) >

In what world is this unpopular? 
At worst I think it's 50/50 between people making their bed and people not giving a fuck. >

50 percent of people is a lot… that would make it unpopular enough >

You don't get what unpopular means I think. >

If 50 percent of the population disagrees according to you, then something like 4 billion people would disagree, doesn’t that make it unpopular? Or am I missing something?
It is like saying “I like that guns are legal and that almost everyone can buy it” isn’t that a popular or unpopular opinion? It is both! A lot of ppl agree and disagree! >

If 50% disagree, then it is a split opinion and not unpopular. 
Unpopular opinions are when a small percentage of people have that opinion regardless of the number of people. >

Yeah sorry dude but people who see it that way are usually depressed >

Over a decade as a mental health professional with a lot of that time in residential and I have to disagree. Depression can absolutely cause someone who is otherwise neat to become messy, but it also very commonly causes people to become more clean as many people who are depressed get restless and try to cope by creating a healthy distraction. I'm pretty neat to begin with but the cleanest my house has ever been was around the time of my psychiatric hospitalization. The only thing that didn't look like walking into a magazine was my mop not put away with bloody footprints between it and the door. 
And the majority of people who are messy aren't depressed, they're just messy. It may be linked to executive function or it may not be, they just might not give a crap about sleeping in crunchy sheets with dirt and pet hair on them. OP seems to express feeling that way. Not every human behavior is a mental illness. >

Thank you. >

Eh, I'd take their response with a grain of salt. Their whole post history is comprised of "as a XYZ person" posts.
"As a trans person", "as a former recruiter", "as a non-clinical mental therapist", "as a former HR rep", yeah they could be all these things, but it's also worth noting that perspectives are very wishy washy on the internet. People lie, not saying they are, but let's not take either anecdote as conversation fodder beyond this one. >

I love this. They manage to have 40 jobs that all require advanced degrees. The most impressive part is they did it all at 19 years old >

Don't you feel better inside a tidy room instead of a messy one? >

My room isn’t messy, it is controlled, eventhough it looks messy, it isn’t because I know where everything is >

To me if it looks messy, is messy, even if I know where everything is. It's just a matter of tidiness at a glance, if I see semblance of tidiness I'm happier. >

That’s okay, that’s how you prefer it, I think differently >

Yes obviously, I was only trying giving you a motivation on why someone would make the bed, it looked like you were wondering why >

I mean I make my bed every day so I can go to sleep in a made bed. (It literally take like 8 seconds) I definitely don’t tidy by room everyday, idk many ppl that do that imo >

I don't make my bed for basically the same thought process, it's hard for me to sleep in a fully made bed. However, I still sleep on a fitted sheet, with a standard sheet on top >

Couple reasons (and I don’t even make my bed everyday or tidy room every day): made bed + clean room makes it look nicer. I put effort into making my room look nice with furniture and decors, can’t really see that when it’s a mess. 
Pile of laundry = wrinkled clothes??? I don’t like wearing wrinkled clothes, doesn’t look as nice! >

Also, I ENJOY crawling into a bed with taut sheets and a correctly positioned comforter or quilt so it’s not all hanging off one side. It’s not JUST about looking nice. But, to OP’s point, I think less of messy people. To me it’s an immediate external indication that they don’t give a shit about other aspects of their life. They can’t be bothered to not live in squalor, what makes me think that the rest of their personality is any better? >


Also, I ENJOY crawling into a bed with taut sheets and a correctly positioned comforter or quilt so it’s not all hanging off one side

I absolutely can't stand it. If I ever sleep at a hotel or at a family's house that has a made bed, the first thing I do is untuck the sheets. I like to have a blanket covering just the middle of my body. Below my knees and above my chest can't be covered. >

I think this is an unpopular opinion because most people prefer a tidy room to a messy room.
If you have a tidy room then you know where everything is and it's easy to get, if you have a messy room then it's more difficult to find things and also more difficult to keep it clean if all surfaces and the floor have things strewn everywhere.
If you put things back after you use them, then it isn't difficult to maintain a tidy room.
This might work for you now, but you mention "room" so do you live with other people?
Imagine if everyone in your house thought like you. What if you went into the kitchen and stuff was everywhere because someone else "knows where it is" there would be nowhere to prepare the food and you wouldn't know where anything was. 
You may say you're "ultra efficient" but even if you live completely alone I don't think it is ever efficient to not tidy up after yourself. >

I'm a lot tidier now and love my tidy space, but when my place was messy I still knew where everything was. When I tied everything away I couldn't find anything because everything moved at once, but when it was messy and I needed a pair of scissors I knew where they were because I remembered what I was using the for last. When I tidied I couldn't remember if I put them in this logic place or that logical place. Turns out it was usually the other logical place. >


You hang them up or fold them so you don’t have to use an iron. I know for a fact you don’t just pick up clothes without ironing them, and go on your way.

What? I have lived on my own for 10+ years and never ironed a thing. Dress shirts and pants are taken out of the dryer while still hot and hung up. Everything else doesn't matter. I give zero cares if my tshirts and jeans are wrinkled. Why bother folding stuff? >

I don't really enjoy it. I am totally neutral. I look at a wrinkled shirt and an ironed shirt exactly the same. The shirt still keeps me warm and legal. Anything other than that doesn't really matter to me. If weather and laws allowed, I'd go naked all the time. Clothes are to protect you from the elements and nothing else. >

Admiral Bill McRaven covers this pretty nicely in this speech >

I agree....somewhat
I clean as I go throughout the week if I can be bothered or have 5 minutes free but I'm not losing sleep if the beds not perfect or there's a few socks on the floor. If I go to someone else's house and the beds not made I think 'oh they havnt made the bed yet, probably been busy', not 'what a filthy animal'....if I even think anything at all
We invented a day for actual cleaning, it's called Sunday
Bottom line is don't live like a pig, but don't waste your life cleaning >

Making my bed and keeping my bedroom tidy, means I get to walk into it later and feel comfortable and at ease. Mental health positive.
Walking into a messy room with a messy bed makes me feel like 'damn, why do I live in this shithole?' Mental health negative.
Those 2 mins of effort are worth it for me. >

Most of the time I don't make my bed and I have a lot of clutter in my room and even I agree with this. I'm working on it, but there's a big sigh of relief to walk into a clean room. >

Calling something pointless and a waste of time is redundant and therefore a waste of time >

I keep my home clean and tidy because living in a space like that makes me feel happier.  
A few minutes to make the bed and put things away is definitely worth the good feelings for me. >

For me, a clean room doesn't induce any positive feelings in me.
But having a mess and letting it grow is hard to manage for me and would require immense effort to clean up if i had someone coming over or something... So i still prefer to clean regularly. >

Yep, this is something that varies from person to person.  Not everyone feels this way, but for me, cleaning up is not at all a waste of time. >

You know what’s funny I also just leave piles of clothes around my room and stuff but I find that things are far more efficient when I actually do the things that seem pointless. No need to search through the pile of clothes for specific items when they all have a place in your drawer. No need to in tangle your bed sheet or gather pillows from around the bed when you make the bed be fore hand. And while at first that kind of stuff seems tedious. If you keep up with it it becomes super easy to maintain. Unfortunately I’ve failed at that on several occasions but I’m telling try doing all that stuff you think is pointless for about a month and see how much easier everything is to do and how much time you’re able to save when you do. >

If you like the disorganization then it works for you! I used to agree with this stance wholeheartedly. I lived alone and I rented a space and didn’t really care if it was beautiful or well put together or picked up. I don’t like dirty but I didn’t mind messy. That was until I owned a space. I’m not sure what happened but something shifted in my brain and now I love having a made bed and adjusting the throw blankets and pillows in the living room to look nice and rearranging the coffee table decor if it gets knocked out of place. It’s like something finally feels like it’s truly mine and not just a space between spaces to come and it makes my mind feel more open and calm when my surroundings are squared away. >

There’s a navy admiral who once said “making your bed is the first thing you should do because it boosts your productivity and you feel a small sense of pride like “man. I really made my bed today. Good on me.” And it’s the start to a good productive day. I didn’t believe it until I tried it. Now it’s the second thing I do as soon as I get up (first is drink a bottle of water). You should try it for like a week. >

Why would anyone feel pride in that? It’s an extremely simple task, that serves no functional purpose. If someone just prefers the look of it that way, then sure, that’s good enough reason to do it. But it’s hardly something to be proud of. >

So is this sentence. >

From an “ultra efficiency” standpoint, it absolutely makes sense to keep things clean and tidy. It is less work and time overall to do a little maintenance work each day rather than having to make it a huge project every time you have company. 
What takes longer? Washing a dish as soon as you’re done with it, or washing it 1 week later when you have to scrub off a bunch of old, crusted-on food? Finding the shirt you want to wear on a hanger or hunting through a pile of clothes to get to it? And assuming you care even a little bit about your appearance, you probably have to iron the shirt as well if it’s been sitting in a pile for a week. You can devote just 5 minutes to tidying up each day, or you can spend an hour or more finding homes for homeless items and then panic cleaning around them before people come over. 
This is just my observation, but in my experience entropy in the home increases exponentially. If you spill tomato sauce onto your clean white countertop, you’re more likely to wipe it up then and there. It takes like .5 seconds and could hardly even be called a task at that point. Whereas if your countertops are already dirty, you hardly notice the new spills. Eventually, cleaning the dirty countertop becomes a task. You have to wipe down the whole thing, and even use some elbow grease on those crusty old tomato sauce stains. Same thing with clutter. If your coffee table is cluttered, what’s one more can of soda or drinking glass or whatever? It just blends in as soon as you set it down, so you leave it there. If it’s the only item on the table, you’re much more likely to just pick it up on your way back to the kitchen and toss it then and there. The single trip to a room you were already going to takes way less time and energy than multiple trips of carting armfuls of mugs and cans and glasses and trash to the kitchen when you decide to finally clean the table. >

Clutter / Chaos is a sensory problem for some of us. >

I make my bed everyday cause if OCD. It would bother me so bad >

Makes a big difference to many when it comes to sleeping or being in the mood for sex. >

This is completely dependent on whether or not you live alone. If you have a roommate, family, or significant other living with you or visiting commonly, for the love of god clean your room. If not, then yeah sure I agree with you. My apartment was a shithole while I was single for a while, but it's pristine now that I have my girlfriend over even if it's just once or twice a month >

I would agree with most of this (am also an “ultra efficient” person lol) but sometimes I find cleaning to be somewhat cathartic. I don’t do it often unless the place needs it, and I haven’t hung a piece of clothing on a hanger in years. Also I can’t remember making my bed even as a kid, the idea of making it just to ruin it later on always seemed ridiculous to me. >

A tidy room is a tidy mind 😌 >

Get a clean and a dirty laundry basket. Way more efficient than a chair/bed/floor/mom. >

That’s just nasty. I keep my room clean so that I don’t find spiders in my clothes that are stacked on the floor later. >

My cat gets angry at me if i dont make the bed. He doesnt like laying on a bunched up blanket lol >

I have a horrible habit of crawling into bed at anytime of the day and being super unproductive so making my bed makes it less likely for me to crawl back in and clutter stresses me out to the point of anxiety attacks. I don’t like doing it but I get why people don’t do it so for my sanity and productivity I force myself to tidy up and make my bed. >

Mental health, dude. Being tidy and clean has a generally positive impact on anyone who has to see it. Same for personal hygiene. >

The only reason I make my bed is because it's more comfortable to sleep in a well made bed than a messy disorganized one imo. >

Well, the only people I'd know who'd harshly disagree with you would be the extreme Jordan Peterson fanbois.
I try to make  my bed more often than not, it actually just feels nice and it makes me more prone to do other chores I otherwise would postpone. I've been on both sides of this fence though. >

I just feel like my thoughts are so much more disorganised if I'm in a messy area. Tidy room, tidy mind I guess.