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People don’t need 400 miles of range.
Heavy EVs are not it. Aside from the weight, also concerning is battery efficiency. You could power four ev sedans (and hundreds of e-bikes or scooters) for how much lithium you’re putting in a hummer >

The new hummers are basically a road legal cruise missile driven by soccer moms. >

I had a t-shirt in high school that said “I love ❤️ soccer moms” but the heart was a soccer ball. I wore it too my friends soccer game, and she was pissed. Got a couple of looks, from the moms though. >

A friend’s band made a T-shirt with the black power fist in green and the words around it were “Fist me I’m Irish” >

I thought it was gonna have something to do with the Hulk before I finished reading the sentence. >

Hulk fist me, I'm Irish.... >

It’s fits if you try hard enough… >

I used to work a job that involved us managing our state’s traffic equipment, and my boss and I discussed a few times how things like guardrails, concrete barriers, and impact attenuators aren’t even close to designed to handle the weight and different center of gravity of a fully electric car. >

that is what this article is getting at.  People do not realize how different EVs are.  They just think that because they have the same form factor and still have a pedal and wheels, they're the same.
We're going to be hearing "oh wow, I didn't realize the differences" for decades. >

They mentioned the Fire F-150 Lightning is about one ton heavier that combustion engine (ICE) model. 
That is a lot of moving metal. >

My father in law said people up by him (in the rural mountainous frontier) are eyeballing these as home battery/generators for when their power goes out. I guess, whatever works, but this strikes me as a funny/sad way to sell America on getting away from fossil fuels. >

Texas loves trucks, and Texas loves power grids that fail during inclement weather. Match made in heaven. >

I wonder what Texans driving EV Hummers will do when the grid fails and they can't charge their glorified shipping containers. >

The idea is that, for the first couple of days of a power outage, your huge ass EV can power your home. >

Wait they are only worried about this now? The 5k+ pound and high ride height SUVs and trucks before weren't a hazard to us people that want to drive small, efficient cars? The years I drove a miata it was always in the back of my mind that one of these country bros with their lifed f250s would just roll straight over my car in an accident and probably decapitate me. Doesn't help that they drive like shit and speed and tailgate constantly. But apparently a low 2100lb car vs a 3 ton lifted truck wasn't dangerous, it's the extra battery weight that is finally making people concerned. Got it.
Whole point of this rant, commercial vehicles require a special license, motorcycles require a special license, but anyone can pick up a huge vehicle with almost no experience driving, IDK why vehicles over a certain size don't require a bit more training, or at least stuff like the driving test should be in that kind of vehicle, most people don't have a need for that large of a car but the reason is always "makes me feel safer" sure but then it's just a race to whoever has the most tank of a car. There is a huge push in America to have the biggest vehicle and it's completely unnecessary when most people would be fine with a mid size sedan or a coupe. We have 3 kids, we have an Impreza, it is fine. >

I'll go one step further. Lifted trucks should not be street legal. Full stop.
You want an off-road vehicle? Keep it off the road.
My family did 3 kids in a Corolla growing up. It was not a traumatic experience. And it's still pretty typical for most places in the world. >

Passenger cars worldwide have to comply with all kinds of safety regulations for pedestrian crashes. Meanwhile Bubba can slam into my ribcage with his sheer vertical bumper whereas a pedestrian can mostly roll off the hood of a modern sedan in a mild collision.
No one can figure out how pedestrian and overall traffic deaths have ticked up since ~2010 when every family car started to turn into a truck or SUV. Keep in mind the median age of a car on the road is about 10 years, and from 1975 through now, the total miles traveled per year has increased substantially while deaths mostly decreased. >

At some point in the future the world will consist of Leafs and '55 Fords in a freeway battle royale. >

Yall need some fuckin trains >

Problem with Amtrak isn't it's government funding, it's more the lack of priority over freight. Legally Amtrak does have priority over freight, but the freight companies just ignore the law because the justice dept doesn't do anything to enforce it.
Due to this, Amtrak can't consistently be on time and they regularly have delays of 5+ hours. >

Here, the entire article, maybe read it?
US official warns of risks posed by heavy electric vehicles
By TOM KRISHER
yesterday
FILE - Jennifer Homendy of the National Transportation Safety Board speaks during a news conference, Oct. 3, 2019, in Windsor Locks, Conn. On Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2023, Homendy, the chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said she is concerned about the risk that heavy electric vehicles pose if they collide with lighter vehicles. (AP Photo/Chris Ehrmann, File)
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DETROIT (AP) — The head of the National Transportation Safety Board expressed concern Wednesday about the safety risks that heavy electric vehicles pose if they collide with lighter vehicles.
The official, Jennifer Homendy, raised the issue in a speech in Washington to the Transportation Research Board. She noted, by way of example, that an electric GMC Hummer weighs about 9,000 pounds (4,000 kilograms), with a battery pack that alone is 2,900 pounds (1,300 kilograms) — roughly the entire weight of a typical Honda Civic.
“I’m concerned about the increased risk of severe injury and death for all road users from heavier curb weights and increasing size, power, and performance of vehicles on our roads, including electric vehicles,” Homendy said in remarks prepared for the group.
The extra weight that EVs typically carry stems from the outsize mass of their batteries. To achieve 300 or more miles (480 or more kilometers) of range per charge from an EV, batteries have to weigh thousands of pounds.
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Some battery chemistries being developed have the potential to pack more energy into less mass. But for now, there’s a mismatch in weight between EVs and smaller internal combustion vehicles. EVs also deliver instant power to their wheels, making them accelerate faster in most cases than most gas-powered cars, trucks and SUVs.
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Homendy said she was encouraged by the Biden administration’s plans to phase out carbon emissions from vehicles to deal with the climate crisis. But she said she still worries about safety risks resulting from a proliferation of EVs on roads ands highways.
“We have to be careful that we aren’t also creating unintended consequences: More death on our roads,” she said. “Safety, especially when it comes to new transportation policies and new technologies, cannot be overlooked.”
Homendy noted that Ford’s F-150 Lightning EV pickup is 2,000 to 3,000 pounds (900 to 1,350 kilograms) heavier than the same model’s combustion version. The Mustang Mach E electric SUV and the Volvo XC40 EV, she said, are roughly 33% heavier than their gasoline counterparts.
“That has a significant impact on safety for all road users,” Homendy added.
The NTSB investigates transportation crashes but has no authority to make regulations. For vehicles, such authority rests largely with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
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Even apart from EVs, the nation’s roads are crowded with heavy vehicles, thanks to a decadelong boom in sales of larger cars, trucks and SUVs that’s led to extreme mismatches in collisions with smaller vehicles. But electric vehicles are typically much heavier than even the largest trucks and SUVs that are powered by gasoline or diesel.
Michael Brooks, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety, said he, too, is concerned about the weight of EVs because buyers seem to be demanding a range of 300 or more miles per charge, requiring heavy batteries.
Setting up a charging network to accommodate that may be a mistake from a safety perspective, Brooks said.
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“These bigger, heavier batteries are going to cause more damage,” he said. “It’s a simple matter of mass and speed.”
Brooks said he knows of little research done on the safety risks of increasing vehicle weights. In 2011, the National Bureau of Economic Research published a paper that said being hit by a vehicle with an added 1,000 pounds increases by 47% the probability of being killed in a crash.
He points out that electric vehicles have very high horsepower ratings, allowing them to accelerate quickly even in crowded urban areas. “People are not trained to handle that type of acceleration. It’s just not something that drivers are used to doing,” Brooks said.
Also, many newer electric SUVs are tall with limited visibility that poses risks to pedestrians or drivers of smaller vehicles, he said.
Sales of new electric vehicles in the U.S. rose nearly 65% last year to 807,000 — about 5.8% of all new vehicle sales. The Biden administration has set a goal of having EVs reach 50% of new vehicle sales by 2030 and is offering tax credits of up to $7,500 to get there. The consulting firm LMC Automotive has made a more modest prediction: It expects EVs to make up one-third of the new-vehicle market by 2030. >

EVs are going to be a future generation problem and it's sad that the US is going to push mass adoption anyways. Apart from the heft (what kind of road wear are these hummers going to do as well?), the amount of material needed to be mined to produce these vehicles is going to surpass current vehicles. Lithium mines aren't using EV equipment.
Also the power required to charge these batteries has to come from somewhere. I don't see fossil fuel use reducing enough over the next couple decades without significant investment in nuclear technology.
Mass transit should be the focus. Not 9000lb Hummers. >

While I agree with you on the subject of where we should put our focuses, there will need to be a more holistic transition for how to handle the problem of the commute. I myself require a personal vehicle to get to work: cheap housing isn’t available in the city I work in, and my work hours do not coincide with public transit hours.
The subject of “where the electricity comes from” is also a bit of a misdirection. Power plants generate electricity at scale, and do so more efficiently than internal combustion engines. Additionally, they’re are green energy plants on the grid: solar, wind, and hydro, which in my state produces the majority (not plurality: 70%) of state power. So from a purely electrical source perspective, it’s simply not true to say that switch from Combustion to Electric will simply shift the source of carbon dioxide. 
Your comment on Lithium mines is something I can’t refute or support due to lack of personal research, but I agree with you on principle. >

Thanks for an informative reply. Solar, wind, and hydro also require more manufacturing and mining than nuclear. I still don't see those as long term viability. They are definitely an important part of power diversity, however. I just don't see them as "sustainable" sources of future energy, either.
The upgrades that are going to be required by electric grids is also a fast approaching problem, I know this first hand. Very large portions of the power grid are not ready for increased demand and production. That's more manufacturing, production, and consumption. Those are significant drivers of pollution. >

Please don't fall into the oil industry propaganda trap of pitting nuclear and renewables against each other. We need both, and in abundance, if we're to meet the coming challenges.
Yes, the grid needs a lot of work but that's okay - we know how to do that. We don't need new technology there, just the political will to build what's necessary. Good use of local renewables should reduce the number of needed transmission lines in a lot of places, which will take the edge off when deployed at scale. >

On my way home from work today, I need to make a right turn, cross two lanes of 55 mph traffic to get into a left turn lane. I pull up to the stop, am at the stop line, while waiting for traffic to clear some basic bitch soccer mom in her monster Lincoln Navigator she doesn’t need, who’s bottom of the door windows was higher than the roof of my civic pulls up to the left turn, beyond their stop line and becomes a wall that I can’t see through, therefore 6 pissed off drivers behind me piled up as I helplessly wait for the wall to take their god damn left turn during rush hour for 5 minutes. I wasn’t about to blindly pull out onto a 55 mph road when I can’t see the traffic coming my way. I tried to signal to get her to back the fuck up but they can’t be bothered.
Not everyone needs an SUV that large, especially if they can’t drive responsibly.
When my eye level is at your front bumper and my car is factory height, that’s terrifying. >

That was a point made back in the early SUV craze. “Giant steel box and massive engine to move about a 150 pound person” or such. >

Yeah it was a legitimate problem. Then we "solved" it by everyone buying an SUV. >

Lol Is this for real? A full-size truck doesn't need to be electric to be dangerous. Many electric cars' batteries are located in a low spread center, allowing for the front to be a much better energy absorbing area in the event of an impact. Yikes. >

The definition of stupid: Hummer ownership >

NICE HUMMER...Sorry about your penis. >

Point no. 1: How much in kickbacks had this lady received from big oil?
Point no. 2: I'd like to invite her to south Louisiana where Mexicans will tow two vehicles behind their shitty truck in order to part out in Mexico. THAT is a heavy payload... With zero licenses, registrations, tags, or permits. >

Point 2 sounds like a lack of law enforcement. >


GMC Hummer weighs about 9,000 pounds (4,000 kilograms)

They are using a Hummer to say that EVs are too heavy?
What about pointing out that road tanks that are primarily used to get to the mall and back are the real issue? >

Teslas are extremely heavy, I can only imagine what a bigger vehicle would weigh. >

I recommend changing lanes when you see a heavy vehicle behind you while driving. 
Someone else can explain why they can turn your car into a pancake during a sudden stop >

If you can. My last car got totaled when I was stopped a red light because some jerk in a giant truck wasn’t paying attention and rearended me at full speed (which pushed my car into the intersection). >

So maybe force automakers to design efficient vehicles instead of just adding more batteries to get the range? >

Emissions Standards... future style! >


I’m concerned about the increased risk of severe injury and death for all road users from heavier curb weights and increasing size, power, and performance of vehicles on our roads, including electric vehicles,” Homendy said in remarks prepared for the group.

She actually was talking about all larger vehicles, not just EV. >

It’s almost like we should investing in public transit systems that would lower emissions, eliminate traffic, and make cities safer. 🤔 >

Blasphemy! Where is the corporate profit in that!  /S >

probably idk... General Electric? they make cargo trains
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if they could make money making people trains they'd have already bribed your "elected leader" to win a big contract to light-railify american cities >

lets play the game of count trucks with empty load, i am sure those 4.5k lbs trucks have no risk at all! >

Id just feel bad for them getting fucked by some tool in the 9000 pound hummer shoving all 1000 horsepower up their ass, or maybe I’m just mad 90% of commuter truck drivers suck on tailpipes for fun at 80+ mph >

This sounds like an ad for EV: powerful, fast acceleration, and guaranteed safety (for the EV driver) during a collision (at the expense of everyone else). >

Nothing America loves more than individual benefit resulting in social costs. >

Damn this is too accurate…great observation it’s embarrassing >

But all we’ll be allowed to do is complain about the continuously degrading roads. No solving it. That isn’t allowed. >

The vast majority of damage to the roads is from semi trucks. A hummer EV isn’t gonna do shit. >

Road damage scales to the 4th power with vehicle weight per axle.
So while 4500lbs per axle is still a lot (and there are not and will not be a lot of Hummers) it's got nothing on fully loaded heavy trucks.
Weigh stations exist for a reason. >

I mean what about semi trucks?  They still good? >

Semis transport stuff that people need. Hummers transport the type of people who I would rather just stayed home. >

But if they're not going to stay home I'd rather they be driving an electric vehicle instead of the almost equally as massive gas alternative. >

“US official warns of risks posed by heavy vehicles”
Fixed that for you… >

Which we already knew. Guess who's coming out on top with a tangle between your compact and a semi. >

The concern shouldn't end at automobiles and trucks.  E-bikes are increasingly common on bike paths.  Some of the bikes are piloted by newbies to the sport who don't have an idea of how heavy their bikes are. >

Many don't realize that states will be changing registrations for EV/pEV and also their class.
Most cars are around 2 tons (most just under 4000lbs). HD Pickups are usually 5000lbs rated. An extended-ranged Tesla Model X (suv) is over 5000lbs. You can argue that an HD pickup truck, with payload and passengers could be over 3 tons (6000lbs) but its also designed to have bigger brakes, along with slower acceleration, than an EV.  (Not including Ford F150 Lightning, or GMC Hummer EV).
So, the only comfort other drivers will have vs EV accidents is that states DOT will be increasing fees to those with vehicles that are excessive weight in relation to road maintenance. And those LOAD LIMIT signs now apply to these EVs  (bridges with 3-4ton limits, for example). 
Because someone rich ahole thought to make himself more rich to produce a 9000lb EV for rich aholes. >

Funny, they didn’t give a fuck when Ford put out 7500 pound excursions. >

So a military Humvee is 8k pounds,  the new EV hummer is 10k pounds.. fucking hell, a Peterbuilt 579 is 17k pounds. Cars range from 2600 to 4400 pounds depending on size... this.beast is 2 large cars or 2/3 of a peterbuilt >

A military version has nothing in it but engine, trans, and frame. They are physically smaller than the civilian ones too. >

The 2003 h2 still has a curb weight about 7200., the new ev still.has a ton on that >

The battery alone in the Hummer EV weighs as much as an entire Honda civic. >

I’m driving an E-450 cube van pulling a 24’ trailer through the mountains for my business. Can’t wait to get mine. >

The biggest issue is the increasing weight versus the same size tire patch and often low rolling resistance tires. >

Lower the commercial vehicle weight and size thresholds then. 
Tired of hearing how "concerned" people people with power are over situations that can be improved by them. >

That will never happen. >

The EV bubble is starting to burst >

False headline….. electric vehicle is not the issue giant EV hummers are >

Been downvoted every time I’ve mentioned it, but we’ve already had multi car pileups in tunnels that have killed 75+ people caused by semi-accidents, with conventional IC Engines, what happens when you have multi-car pileups that cause extremely hot lithium fires, especially for large semi batteries, and when the heat from one battery trapped in a tunnel starts setting off other batteries to catch fire? >

It would be interesting to see whether batteries or gasoline/diesel fires are more dangerous. 
Lithium fires burn longer and hotter but are much less likely to explode and are much less likely to catch fire in the first place. >

A fuel truck would be at least equally bad in a tunnel, but most tunnel accidents that have killed large amounts of people in tunnels have not involved fuel trucks. 
Lithium fires can’t really be easily put out without chemicals that kill humans (in a confined space) instead of water, and the higher temps of lithium fires should be able to more easily set off other battery fires versus fuel fires.
Edit: the other issue is that the battery size for a semi-sized carrier, is that it essentially puts the potential chemical energy of a small fuel truck no matter if the semi just hauling a trailer full of toilet paper. >

A fuel truck as in a tanker would be significantly worse and I don't see how you're comparing that with a ev truck. Fuel trucks burn extremely quickly and cause violent explosions. The potential energy can't be compared when the rate of energy release is so different.
Id bet that a ev truck is safer in a fire than a ice truck because the burn rate is much faster in an ice vehicle reducing the evacuation time. Also a battery fire will be more localized allowing more room for navigating through a pileup on foot to escape. Finally no explosions are nice.
But this is important to investigate to know for sure. >

Currently now, most vehicles are ICE, I’m looking a bit ahead when 90+% of all vehicles are EV’s.
The 11,000lb batteries of semi-hauling EV’s carry the same energy of a small fuel trailer, high temps + vehicle damage that exposes batteries to high temps in a tunnel, seems to be more likely to set off chain reactions. [Edit2: Particularly when the fires are less oxygen dependent than normal gasoline or diesel fires]
But the points you make about decreased explosions are basically correct, though I will note that large lithium ion batteries still can explode, it’s just a lot rarer than something like a fuel truck explosion.
Edit: the higher temps might also do more structural damage to a tunnel than non-fuel truck multi vehicle accidents as well. >

I just don’t think EVs are going to solve anything. Cities are designed poorly, the sprawl can be condensed. We went in the wrong direction and EVs just continue that bad move. >

EVs solve a LONG time problem of sustainable transportation.  Assuming we get iron air batteries in them instead of lithium.. But yeah it's not going to solve climate change.  For that we need to suck the carbon out of the atmosphere.
Assuming we don't kill off humanity future generations 100s of years from now will be happy we made the switch to EV. >

EVs are here to save the automotive industry (at least for a few years before climate change drives us into catastrophe); they are not here to solve the issue of anthropogenic climate change. We cannot "consume product" our way out of a problem created by that same mentality. inb4 "but iPhone vuvuzela gommulism" >

My extended diesel van weighs in at about forty-three hundred kilogrammes. I only drive it once or twice per month,  though, and brakes are something I replace every other year.       
I can't imagine commuting in a vehicle such as this, unless I was in an accident-prone area. >

The lyrics of Red Barchetta are getting closer to being reality every year. Rush's alloy air car is our electric supertruck. >

Childish machines like the Hummer EV need to be taxed into oblivion. >

What about the original hummer, H2 and H3? >

My opinion is that they never should have been made road legal for the civilian market. >

What is the impact of this added weight on road surfaces?  Given that gasoline taxes subsidize roads and EVs don't pay these taxes, what is the path forward to maintain more heavily used roads? >

How much do you think a semi truck and trailer weigh? >

I understand that in addition to fuel taxes at the pump (or through IFTA), heavy commercial vehicles pay an extra Federal Tax in the US based on gross weight.  Additonally, some US States impose a weight-mile state tax. >

I mean, it's ridiculous in general that Americans are allowed to drive heavy trucks on a normal drivers license >

I don’t know where you got that idea.
To drive large commercial trucks a license and passing a physical is required. >

In Sweden, for example, you need a proper heavy duty truck license to drive any truck with a total weight over 3500 kg.
Lots of pickup trucks are heavier than this. There's no world where maneuvering such a heavy vehicle should require extra training. Large pickups are certainly closer to heavy duty trucks than cars. >

That 7700+ pounds and the only pickups that are even close to that heavy are F350 and other super duty trucks designed for farm and commercial use. >

...and men with small privates. >

So cap weight limits you fucking donuts. >

I'm sure some dumb truck owner will piss and moan about that being socialism. >

55 mph was put in place to save fuel, we just happened to find out it saved lives too
that was during nixon
Ive driven on the highways next to loaded dumptrucks and 18 wheelers.....
but yah..  electric vehicles are the new boogyman... >

She compared a Hummer to a Civic..... Clickbait idiocy. >

Not clickbait at all. She compared the hummer's battery to a civic. The battery alone weighs more than a civic, the most popular car (was for a while anyway).  
All of these batteries are very, very heavy. The point she's making is that getting hit by an EV is like getting hit by that car's non-EV version and a civic at the same time. It's a lot of extra force that cars today weren't necessarily designed to hold up to. >

So pull all trucks and SUVs off the road because they pose a danger to Fiats and Volkswagens. >

It'd be a dream come true for me if all SUVs go bye bye. I hate SUVs. >

I fucking abhor the useless fucking things. >

I live on a boat and my closet is in my suv. It also helps me carry parts for my boat that are way to big to fit in anything smaller. I also live on a spit that sometimes have waves coming over the road, and in the winter, without an suv, I am trapped on my boat. Maybe they aren't for everyone, but they are crucial to me >

And you live on a boat, I'm guessing that has a way lower carbon footprint than traditional housing. >

Ya my energy usage is about 1/6th of the average household. I compost my waste as well as my "human" waste. I was just saying that there are situations where SUV's are a better practical solution. I have 2 cars, 1 suv and 1 audi a3 and my audi actually uses more gas than the suv. >

Oh my, Oil Lobbyists at their finest.
Where were those complains when the car industry pushed more and more super heavy SUV with 3.5 tons of weight into the cities to collide with 1 ton city cars? 
But now that the 3.5 ton car becomes a 4 ton car: BAD BAD BAD
Seriously, she should wear an Exxon sponsored shirt or cap in the picture. Reading through the responses it still doesn't seem to be obvious to some. >

The examples were the big cars getting even bigger. The hummers becoming super heavy. The F150s getting even heavier.
So what are you talking about? >

I agree with the commenter, this is suddenly a problem… when Ford gave up on lighter cars and started only truck/SUV frames this sudden fear for the increase in danger went unheard.
If the government wants to discourage large vehicles they should tier licenses.  Larger fees and more stringent testing that correlates with vehicle weight.  Otherwise this doesn’t sound like a serious attempt to protect the public at all. >

It’s always been a problem and they’ve always talked about GVW mismatches causing all sorts of problems for drivers of smaller vehicles. It was a topic in my drivers ed 25 years ago.
Did they ban them then or ban them now? No.
Why can’t they say this? It’s the absolute truth. The problem you mention is now worse…. >

The article is about damage to other cars..? >

I think the commenter is correlating an increase in probable im damage to weight.  That seems reasonable to me. >

Most road damage from wear and tear is from tractor trailers hauling large loads of freight and equipment. A regular-sized and loaded 18-wheeler has 4,444 lbs per tire wearing on the road, whereas even something ridiculous like the EV Hummer has got less than 2,600 lbs per tire fully loaded. Not only that, but passenger vehicle tires tend to be much wider per weight carried than rig tires, so the pounds per square foot are even less for passenger vehicles than rigs.
Semi tires are typically rated for at least 6,000 lbs, often more, far more than any passenger vehicle tire I'm familiar with. >

On the bright side they probably cant haul that much valuable cargo... so fewer insurance claims I guess >

I keep a Renoir in my trunk which occasionally opens on its own including when I'm parked.
One accident would be all it took for it to go flying.  Possibly out of reach for me to ever recover it if it started doing a kite thing. >

It wouldnt happen to be "Madeleine Leaning on Her Elbow with Flowers in Her Hair" would it? >

Well, that one is accounted for. The other was stolen and remains at large. >

An SUV of any type is going to smash a Fiat of any type. 
This disparity has always existed since makes and models became a thing. 
What fucking point is she making here? >

The point is that 9000lb commuter vehicles are not the way. Not for safety, not for efficiency...really not for anything. There are bridges in this country that behemoth is too heavy to cross.
I also posted the entire article if you care to read it >

3000lb commuter vehicles were fucking dumb. Did that stop...ANYONE? >

No it didn't. So those same mistakes should be repeated? A strange position to take.
We didn't take any action before...so we can't now either! >

Oh you're gonna snap your fingers and get everyone on busses and trains. 
Good luck bro, call me in 200 years with an update. >

Won’t be a problem in the far future as cars that drive themselves will get in less accidents. >

This is what I’m really hopeful for but I can’t shake the feeling that these new full self driving EVs are not going to get us there. Like, I think we’re giving too much agency to each individual car themselves because that’s the only option to manufacturers at the moment. 
I feel like the future of self driving cars won’t be super smart cars with AI and a zillion cameras that read road signs and stuff, but dumber cars and smarter infrastructure. Something like networked somethings that can be placed under the road when they are re-paved with simple information broadcasted to individual vehicles like, lane boundary, speed limit, last time another vehicle pinged this particular section, etc. And street lights and crosswalk buttons that can broadcast their status to nearby vehicles instead of trusting a camera on a car to mimic what humans do and rely on having to look at the color of the light. 
I’m kind of hoping these smart cars are a kind of interim step until we figure out how unload the technology into our roads themselves. >

Politically motivated fossil fuel apologists need something to complain about >

so you're saying we need regulation on cars?! else companies will produce dangerous vehicles?! what a surprise! >

They are regulated. >

yes and no.
Think titanic and it's lifeboats.
The regulations have yet to be updated for electric drivetrains, so applicable ones are non existent, and there is massive resistance by automakers for said needed regulatory updating.
Why? so they can get away with this. >

Wait till she learns about motorcycles. >

This is pretty dumb. The weight of the hummer is pretty high, but its. Luxury vehicle and not the norm most people will buy. 
The electric silverado will be about the same as most diesel trucks. Electric cars weigh more as well. No emissions and drastically cheaper to operate. 
Electric vehicles are awesome. Next, self-driving vehicles will save so many lives. Heck yea future! >

Homendy is an idiot and unqualified to be in the NTSB, let alone chairman.  She isn’t much more than a political hack. One of the very few terrible Biden appointees.  Here is her basic resume from Wikipedia: 
In 1996 and 1997, Homendy worked as a government relations manager at the American Iron and Steel Institute. From 1997 to 1999, she was a legislative representative for the AFL–CIO Transportation Trades Department. From 1999 to 2004, she was a legislative representative for the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. From 2004 to 2018, she was a Democratic staff member for the United States House Transportation Subcommittee on Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Materials. In 2018, she was appointed as a member of the National Transportation Safety Board. >

Well that’s it, everyone’s gonna run out and buy Teslas to own the libs
Narrator: Actually, they will not >

That certainly poses a danger, reminds me of the (thought experiment? Or was actually discusses at the advent of motor vehicles?) Where the question of why not build light weight vehicles that would be more efficient, by say making out of mostly wood? Because the heavy ones would obliterate it, light was never gunna be a realistic thing >

Because US likes big SUVs and Trucks.  This is a hit piece and not based on facts and totally exists what is currently on the road.  Plus many EVs are any heavier than normal cars.  Tesla Model 3 and BMW 3 series are within 100 pounds of each other. >

The point is there's likely to be a continuing trend towards heavier and heavier vehicles, as has always happened. So you agree with me. >

Not because of EVs but because of people.   And the vehicle weight doesn’t matter as much as tire surface area anyway for road wear.   But having a higher up vehicle even lighter would be way more dangerous than a heavy low vehicle in an accident.   This whole line of thinking from the article is bogus. >

Well yea humans drive the entire thing, various tech are elements of it, semis/cars/evs/commercial. An EV that weighs 4500 lbs compared to an ev that weighs 10,000 pounds is a relevant factor. >

So, a lightweight car is at risk if it is in a collision with a much heavier vehicle  OK.  I will keep that in mind.  Thanks.  I feel much smarter now. >

You certainly don't sound much smarter.
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...read the article or stay out of the conversation.
Maintaining ignorance while chiming in is such an utter waste of your time and energy, and anyone else unlucky enough to stumble across you.