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no it doesn’t matter what your financial situation is, it’s an irresponsible financial decision unless you need to use it for hauling shit regularly.
It's so bad especially driving through the country and you see these big ass lights headed your way and it's the ONLY thing you see >

Think it's bad in the country. Imagine being stuck in front of one and having to tilt all your mirrors for your 40 min. commute ... sometimes the same one several times a month. >

LPT: You can flip the tab on the bottom of your rear view mirror to deflect the light away from your eyes while maintaining the same view out your rear windshield.
ULPT: You can also angle it in such a way that the person behind you gets an eye full of their own headlights. >

The little tab on the bottom is a thing of the past in newer vehicles but when I did have the option I always tried to blind them with it haha >

Huh. Didn't know that. I had a 2019 Civic that still had the tab. I too like flipping the tab and having the roving searchlight behind me suddenly turn their brights off or back off considerably lol >

LEDs are more efficient. All headlights should be LEDs. But they should limited in their brightness. I fully agree.
The problem is that there are already laws on the books limiting headlight brightness, but they aren't enforced, and a lot of folks don't follow them. >

It's not really the brightness that's blinding, is the angle. They should be angled down towards the road. A lot of cars have adjustable lights she people and them as high as possible for maximum exposure >

To continue on this point, since op mentioned lifted trucks... alot of people lift their tru ks but dont realize that the have to readjust their lights, which is why they have what seems like an obscenely bright headlight 
Still tho i agree the brightness limit needs to be enforced thru the govmt regs at the source ( ie. The manufacturer) >

Regulating the manufacturer doesn’t do anything when people use aftermarket parts >

Aftermarket parts are still regulated
Cops should also be ticketing tho >

Yeah, shouldn't be too complicated to let cops regulate. If it's enforced enough, the parts will become harder to find.
In my province there are certain regulations over tinted windows (basically there is a certain transparency threshold, and the windshield can only be tinted in its upper part), and it works fine.
It doesn't have to be 100% of cars perfectly following regulations at all times; if you don't meet them, you'll get caught eventually. And if you stay off the roads, you can do whatever you want (re: comments about farmers putting special lights or whatever). You start requiring that new cars follow these regulations while announcing it'll become regulation for all cars by some date in a distant future, so you give plenty of time for everyone to adapt. >

As someone who frequents country roads, in roadkill country, i feel safer driving with my dim as fuck headlights than being blinded by the wankers with led driving lights either coming at me or hanging right in my side mirrors on the freeway.
I legitimately believe my high beams are dimmer than some peoples ordinary driving lights. That's just wrong.
I have no issue with LED spotties, but when your driving lights are enough to make me grab my sunglasses, you are absolutely an asshole. >

When I first started driving I lived in the country, and my parents taught me to turn off the high beams at night if someone was coming the other way. I feel like people do that less and less now and it's annoying. >

anyone that doesn't is a bad person >

I had to quit my CDL OTR job because the high intensity discharge headlights were so bright that it started causing ocular migraines that would black out my field of vision after a year of night driving. It took years to recover and I’m finally able to drive without nighttime glasses. The lights themselves are very dangerous and I think more car manufacturers should look into this. 
My 2022 Forester has headlights that seem to “cut off” right about hood level. So if I’m driving behind a sedan, I’m not blinding them in their rear view mirror. It also has auto dimming bright lights and will turn off the high beams when it senses another car coming towards me. All that said, some times I think the auto level of my own headlights are too bright for other drivers. It’s just ridiculous how bright these headlights are, especially when people turn on after market light bars while on the pavement…how far are you trying to see? Into the future?! >

I had to quit my 6 figure night gas job because of ocular migraines and fatigue due to these damn lights.
It’s terrible >

LEDs aren't the problem.  Overly bright, poorly aimed headlights are the problem. >

It is every single suv and truck I encounter on the road at night. >

Ok, but LED is a technology.  The complaint is too birght poorly aimed headlights, not LED.   
All I am saying is, let's focus on the actual issue rather than banning LEDs. >

Well naturally if I’m in a car, an suv or a truck’s lights are gonna be higher because they’re higher off the ground. Doesn’t matter where you position them at on the vehicle. >

It's a beam of light which you can aim. The parabolic mirror inside the headlight changes random light into a directional beam. >

Also, most headlights now are projection beam lights, and plenty of brands have an actual dial to angle your headlights according to the conditions and area you're driving in.
They should be angled up on the highway to see further, and angled down in cities or residential areas where you have street lighting. >

I so agree with this. They stress me out so much, and I live in Los Angeles so driving on the freeway is a death wish at night. >

Pretty sure this is only a real issue when they aren't calibrated properly - especially common in aftermarket DIYs.
Well, except when people are too dumb/lazy/selfish to turn off high beams in a timely fashion. >

I don't even use my highbeams bc I know my lights are too bright. My car is 6 yrs old at this point & I still get flashed when they are on dim >

Downvoted because this is a VERY popular opinion >

Try being in the USA, the land of oversized SUVs and pickup trucks, and driving a subcompact hatchback. I’m constantly getting blasted with headlight glare. >

Man, it's not even just headlights anymore. Even tail lights are getting ridiculously bright. >

The other parent at my kids bus stop always turns her hazards on when she parks. Even when I’m behind her. Shit about gives my epileptic self a seizure. >

I'll up vote this twice a day if it means it'll gain attention >

100%
Everytime this comes up, I feel relieved that maybe I'm not crazy.
I get that LEDs are a lot more efficient, and that angle/color/self-adjusting beams are all ways to reduce glare from these headlights, but at some point, it's just too much damn light. I don't care if it's the angle or the temperature or the whatever. I come home from my evening commute dazzled and with a headache basically every day in the winter.
It didn't used to be that way and I hate it, and I don't get why I'm the asshole for wanting it to not be that way. >

Absolutely on every point. I do gig work as a courier full time but can't work evenings during the winter on most gigs as you can get sent on country roads you don't know with no lighting. I'm light sensitive and the number of times I've almost crashed from being completely disoriented is more than I feel comfortable admitting. I used to think it was just arseholes who liked showing off, but I think it's also poor drivers or people with poor vision who just think "well at least I can see 1 mile up the road". >

Most are adjustable. People are just morons and don’t adjust them. >

Or they just don't know that's a thing they have to/should/can do. Most people aren't exactly car savvy beyond "is my oil/coolant/brake fluid about to run out and burn up my engine" and "hmm, tire looks a bit flat. Now to figure out what pressure im supposed to fill this up to". Most people would assume the lights are done the way they're supposed to be >

That’s no excuse. It’s in every cars manual about the features of the car, especially safety features. >

...and how many people do you think would read that in depth on the manual? If people read the manual, they're more concerned with engine function or the buttons inside the car and airbags. I didn't even know headlights were adjustable until 2 years ago and I can't imagine how many people would have thought it pointless to read a section about the headlights- also can't imagine this helps people with used cars where the manual is likely long gone and Google can be a pain in the ass (i remmeber how much of a nightmare it was to look up something for my car), and again, most people would not think that looking up how the headlights work as something important or needed because that should be something that's aligned properly when you buy the car (especially if it's new) >

Reading your owner's manual is the responsible and smart thing to do. >

Fully agree. They are great for the person using them. Awful for everyone else. >

The person using them still has to deal with other people's though. As someone who has them (on a sedan) and also experiences other people's, I think stock LED headlights are mostly fine. It's usually a problem when there's aftermarket stuff involved, like lifted trucks or poorly angled aftermarket LEDs. >

Had a pickup behind me yesterday, at 4:30 pm with very slight overcast, with his LEDs on. Brights too. There was zero reason for it whatsoever. It was bright out and we were on a well lit road.
Jackass >

If a LED is installed properly and the headlight adjusted for the lift it is no more blinding to other vehicles than a conventional headlight. Unfortunately 90% of the LED lights installed aftermarket are not installed correctly. >

The problem is not the lights.  The problem is that they’re aimed incorrectly and glare in your eyes or the lights do not have autolevel sensors/motors. >

This seriously needs to be a pinned topic. I think it gets posted every 10 minutes. >

Thank you! I manage chronic migraines and these can trigger a bad attack. I have to wear polarized sunglasses at night because of these fckers. >

Banning a more efficient light technology is a misunderstanding of the problem. It’s people running too much luminosity as low beams, bad alignment, and lack of enforcement. If you wanted to you could literally get back at them with some clever retroreflective strips. >

If you have a lifted truck, that is not used for work or offroad, you are a terrible preson
LED light worsen this fact >

some people just like lifted trucks. why should they be called terrible people? >

I wouldn’t call them terrible, but I would call them stupid if they’re not using it for hauling shit regularly. Such a waste of gas and money when you could have bought a hybrid sedan that will last you forever with low maintenance costs. “I just like it” is not a rational justification for willingly fucking yourself over financially like that. it’s irresponsible, but if it really makes you that happy then who am I to judge? >

You are making a lot of assumptions about people that buy lifted trucks financial situation.