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Don't send them through Switzerland >

Context? >

Switzerland are too “neutral” to send weapons to Ukraine and have blocked other countries from sending their stuff >

What's their purpose in doing that besides "neutrality" >

Nothing, it’s just part of their National disposition. Not neutral enough to turn down making money off the Nazis in WW2 though! >

Like the British weren’t genocidal racists who conquered and looted half the world themselves? It’s great the nazis got destroyed and germany learned from their mistakes but in an ideal world england would have been glassed as well. >

One bad deed does not excuse another. The Swiss blocking of arms thing is currently happening though. >

Oh i agree wrt to right now as this isn’t a conflict of “2 bad guys” so to speak. Ukraine was minding its own business and has been brutally invaded. Just was responding to the ww2 comment. Even right now, I would still say most countries are supporting one side or staying neutral for geopolitical reasons, not the goodness of their hearts. >

definitely agree there. It just comes to a point of two things for me. One, when does neutrality end up helping oppressors and two, when Swiss neutrality affects the diplomacy of another country like it is here, when is that neutrality no longer neutral? Selling arms and restricting where they are used doesn't seem very neutral >

Big shoutout to Greece for agreeing to wait on some of their promised Marders so Ukraine gets them first! Especially with Turkey (or Türkye) ramping up threats again. >

Don’t think it matters if Turkiye makes military threats. They’re both nato members. >

Didn't matter for Cyprus in '74 tho. >

Almost 50 years ago. And not quite the same >

Of course not, but both of them being in NATO might not be the bulletproof deterrent to Turkey it should be imho, sadly. 
Ofc a straight out invasion is not happening, but I understand the greek caution here. >

I think before it even escalates to worries of an invasion, the US would have put Turkey back in its place. >

Good thing there's one grown-up country to protect European children from themselves. Without adult supervision, they'll start killing each other again and again. >

The European child fron Asian child. >

Off-topic but i guess Germany allows soldiers to grow beards? Because two of the dudes in this photo have really kickass beards. Isn’t that unusual or not allowed in the army in most places? >

from what i remember so long as their trimmed, unobtrusive and still allow them to wear the gas/etc masks with full seal german command allows it >

as long as they trim those sideburns >

Mattingly!! Get rid of those sideburns!
-What sideburns?
You heard me, Hippie! >

Can't wait for the "too late" "to little" people commenting. They could send the entire Bundeswehr and they would complain. >

Can’t wait for some of those same people to propose renaming swiss cheese to american cheese, forgetting that the name american cheese already exists. Also not realizing swiss cheese was actually invented in Ohio. >

Lol there is cheese called "swiss cheese"? I mean there are many from Switzerland but they have own name. >

Yes >

I'm becoming increasingly angry that my government has not stepped up to provide Canada's Leopards to Ukraine.  
Where even are they? If they are in Canada, which I think is the case, what use are they here? Deterring an invasion by the Americans?? It's absurd in these circumstances that those tanks are not either in Ukraine or part of a deterrent force in the Suwalki Gap. Aging in Canada makes them an utterly wasted investment. >

The problem with Canada sending them is shipping. Only your neighbor can do that realistically in good time. Your neighbor would also have to take over another portion of your territorial defenses. Not likely anyone WOULD attack canada, no one wants to fight your neighbor already. What Canada should do is just buy old stock m1's like poland did. They're more advanced than the leopard's canada actually has(they purchased some pretty old models of the leopard) and well.. sadly cheaper. Upgraded M1A1 and newly built M1A2's are ... surprisingly economical. Then they can just tie in transport and delivery of the leopards as the only country REALLY capable of transporting those 82 leopards in short order is the same person they should probably buy new tanks from. >


Your neighbor would also have to take over another portion of your territorial defenses. 

What exactly do you mean by this strange assertion? >

Canada has a small population, large territory, and most of it is ALREADY patrolled by the US. >


The Americans keep doing it because they want to undermine those claims for commercial and political reasons.

You're either extremely dumb or believe crazy conspiracy theories. The US hangs out in the northern areas because they're patrolling a place Canada can't. Via air and Sea they patrol, openly. It's not a secret like.. at all. The are spotted because they're ACTIVELY searching, not trying to hide. They're patrolling because Canada can't, you literally just don't have the equipment. Hate to break this to you, but Canada has very little population, and honestly is a fairly weak country in a military sense especially compared to land mass. They have no capability to patrol the territorial claims. >

You're weirdly obsessed with video games bruh. >

Having listened to Lukashenko for the past year, I am always a bit worried when anyone says "up to" some number.  Since technically 0 counts as "up to...." >

That is certainly his hope! >

Send them tanks already! >

That's a drop in the ocean ...
In Ukraine there's a mass war that chews through a lot of equipment.
Allies should sit down, think of the ways to provide Ukraine with equipment on industrial scale. >

Tanks, heavy tanks! Send them now!!! >

Tanks, but no Tanks. >

What’s that old biddy doing >

The 21st century is ridiculous. The whole world is sending their military to Ukraine to fight against Russia but God forbid we actually do anything immediate. Let's just drag this out as long as possible. >

Such as? >

Name the reason why it hasn't been done half a year ago.
Ukraine is fighting for it's dear life but their allies are taking a year to figure out that counterattacks are necessary to win defensive war and that you can't do that with MRAPs and HMMWVs alone.
Training for Marders and Bradleys takes a couple of months. If, say, there were political will but no material capabilities - you could at least train up Ukrainian soldiers in the meantime.
But training only begins around a week from today, because while our allies are great people instrumental to our victory - their politicians like to mince their balls very much. >

You or I have no idea what the logistics and strategy are during stuff like this.
It's easy to sit here on reddit and be like "well just help them lol".  This shit is complicated. >

I don't believe people that were ready to give up on Ukraine until april to have it's best interest in mind. Yes, I've said it.
So much could be done, but so far politics prevails and Ukraine gets drip feeding treatment.
Again, why not train up personnel beforehand? Why not give start transition towards western standards early? Why block aid that was approved (migs, ammo for gepards)? Why not give long range missiles?
It was clear to be a long war since the beginning. It was clear counteroffensives will have to be undertaken. It was clear putin isn't gonna nuke anyone over tanks or IFVs - his red lines are shakier than his hands.
Logistics is not the defining factors in this blatant indecisiveness. >

They have had tons of Foreign advisors. Just like Russia had Iranian advisors.
They were taught to use Javelins, HAMARs, they have the West's Intelligence Apparatus. The US intel is watching the area day, and night. Which is the best in the world. 
They have adopted both Western, and Eastern Bloc tactics from their past, and they get a lot of western tactics from NATO currently. >

But still hasitant to sent Leos. This should happen now! >

MArder's are so fucking old the first leopard 2(which is considered obsolete now without major upgrades) wasn't even built by the time the last Marder was ever built.. Only like 20 have ever been upgraded to modern standards rofl. >

The Marders in current German service were upgraded to A3 standard in the nineties. They’ll do fine against Russia’s Soviet era dregs. >

How do they keep finding soldiers to operate the equipment being sent over? >

Conscription. It was easy for Ukraine to increase their manpower by 10x since the start of the invasion. But their vehicle inventory cannot be increased tenfold in a matter of days. So they have plenty of leftover personnel to drive any vehicle being donated to them. >

I saw the picture and my brain misread it as Granny sends 40 armored vehicles to Ukraine... >

At this point, Russia has proved to be all bark. NATO refrained from sending offensive weapons for fear of antagonizing Russia. Since Russia is antagonized regardless of what NATO countries do, Russia repeatedly refusing any negotiation outside of outright appeasement and capitulation, and a protracted war harms all parties, we may as well give Ukraine everything they need to end this quickly. >

Not one turn signal among them. >

Thumbs up Germany! >


up to 40

Translation: between 0 and 40. >

It's Germany man.. so closer to 0. >

Hmm, they used to send more. >

40 isn’t anything come on >

Is that you Dimitri? >

Yeah! Let’s drag this made up war out longer, get more innocent ppl killed, and willing agree to help launder and line the pockets of politicians! >

Totally agree. Russia must surrender to end this meaningless war. Very much agree with you in that. >

Germany is funding both sides? They buy millions in oil from Russia every day, and now there sending weapons to fight Russia im so lost with who stands for who rn >

Except they're not, because all oil imports from Russia to Germany were halted January 1st, as was promised. Meaning Germany imports NO fossile resources from Russia anymore as coal and gas imports were halted earlier (both in August 2022).
That is from Germany getting around 40% of its coal and oil, and 55% of its gas from Russia in 2021.
So fuck off with your anti-German divisive bullshit. Germany acted remarkably fast to wean itself from Russian resources for a change on that scale. >

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Populist billionaire Andrej Babis leads a field of eight candidates hoping to succeed Milos Zeman in the largely ceremonial but prestigious post of the Czech Republic president.
A eurosceptic like Zeman, Babis has been critical, among other issues, of the 27-member European Union's plan to tackle climate change, saying it would hurt the Czech Republic's economy and is responsible for soaring energy prices.
The two political newcomers fully endorsed the country's military and humanitarian support for Ukraine in its fight against Russia and see the Czech Republic's future linked to membership in the EU and NATO. Pavel, 61, who served as the chief of the general staff of the Czech army before working at NATO in 2015-18, has presented himself as the right person for the post in hard times amid Russia's war in Ukraine.


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Are you drunk? >

Very smart future proofing,decades of income for every country that sends anything to ukraine. You send your tanks,vehicles,equipment (which many of small arms get sold on black market),they get destroyed by artillery or any other means and then after all is said and done,probably for many decades they are going to payback. Only loser here is ukraine,they pay in blood and money. >

Russia have already destroyed them >

its not enough, we must send in everything armoured dolphins and all.