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This shit is getting out of hand.  Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.
The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals. >

And refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional. >

Yeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit. >

They want to turn it into a battle where they're being persecuted for their religion, that way all the bullshit they get told in church about how they are targets for being Christian will be proved right
But the truth is, they didn't say, "take off your cross and deny christ or else we're firing you" 
They said "you're job description is to accomplish X, Y, and Z at your job and you are refusing to do X because YOU claim it's against your religious beliefs."
Fuck that lady. >

Wouldn't this be the opposite then?  Shouldn't she be prosecuted for enforcing her religion on others?  By denying someone a legitimate prescription because what they need is against her own beliefs, she is in turn saying "Fuck your beliefs, mine are better than yours and you must respect and follow mine" >

She's not even saying "Fuck your BELIEFS" she's saying "fuck your HEALTHCARE, my religion is more important than your life"
Others have said, it's not a crime, but it damn well should be >

From the article:

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship"

Only having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.
Hope she gets destroyed in court. >

If you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. 
Imagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. 
These are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job. >

pretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade. >

Yep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours. >

That's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues! >

Actual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. 
There are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff. >

Pretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination. >

Hooters has gotten around discrimination lawsuits in the past because they are hiring "entertainers" and not general restaurant wait staff. When hiring an "entertainer" you are somewhat allowed to use discriminatory hiring practices. >

Does that mean they aren't allowed to pay their wages based on estimated tips, like they would for a server? >

Either way, Hooters girls make pretty great money. Girl in my dorm waited tables there to pay for college and she hated it but it was really good money so she dealt with it. 
Nicest girl ever. Always felt kinda bad for her; cant imagine that's a very fun job >

My dad would tip the hooters waitress like $20-$50 each time >

If I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS >

Theyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.
They're supposed to just say "I'll get someone else to help you"
But what a lot of them was doing was saying "CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave".
Two very, very different things. >

“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”.  Pretty cut and dry. >

Which is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional. >

And that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more. >

Except those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. 
I, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts. >

A nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired.  
Period >

They gave vaccines, and even got the required ones. But when the covid one became mandatory they started to screech anti-vax. 
I honestly can't just give this summary since it hurts my brain to think that someone can go into that field and claim to be anti-vax. >

I remember reading the case about a Marine that was discharged for refusing the vaccine because of its use of fetal tissue. She didn’t really have an answer when asked why she got the MMR vaccine that used the same tissue sample. >

Many many years ago I was an apprentice plumber and it was a legal requirement for my apprenticeship to get a bunch of vaccines to protect against diseases. hep a hep b MMR, typhoid ( that ones a cunt of a shot ) rabies ( not that we have rabies in my country anymore ) and a couple others, I didn't like it, but after talking to a lot of the old master plumbers and hearing horror stories of the shit they had contracted in their careers I took my vaccines and the typhoid and hep ones have certainly paid off over the years when I've been exposed to that shit.
Like a lot of people I don't like getting shots, but I'd rather the shot than a dose of a preventable disease. >

Any religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?
Is fucking insane. >

Isn’t that like…. Most of them >

Weird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked. >

Which religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self >

Meow-rmon
(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.) >

Tell me more man! >

We spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.
We set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.
And if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor. >

Wait, can I convert? What’s the process like? Nvm, I swear undying love to our feline lords and saviors!! >

If you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her. >

Unless she took the job specifically to start a fight. >

Step 1: Take job that you know will violate your "religious beliefs"
Step 2: Refuse to do job and get fired
Step 3: Sue job for wrongful termination 
Step 4: Profit! >

My friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a "disease". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years. >

We had an employee who did this kind of thing also. He was hearing impaired, so my boss said, hey let’s give him a chance. He used hearing aids and could hear ok so no problem. Except, he would only choose to hear what he wanted and ignore when he was told what to do at the job. Most of the time he didn’t do anything and when asked why, he’d say- “Oh you never told me that, or I didn’t hear you”. This went on until he was fired for not doing any of the job. He quickly sued after. Later we found out he’d done this same pattern to all his previous jobs. >

I've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms.  Or a Hindu, with beef specifically.   I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically. >

“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”
“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”
“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!” >

Personally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.
There is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? 
The whole thing is nonsensical. >

They should state which Bible verse is against birth control since birth control pills is never mentioned in Bible . You know, Supreme Court style. “The word Privacy is no mentioned in constitutions so it is not protected.” Well. “birth control pill is not mentioned in Bible so it is not included in the religion protection.” >

Abortion is mentioned in the Bible. It is prescribed to a woman who is possibly unfaithful to her husband. The suspicious husband is to take his wife to a rabbi where the rabbi will give her a bitter drink. If the bitter drink causes her belly to swell and womb to rot, she was unfaithful. If it does not, she was faithful. Basically the rabbi gives her an abortifacient and if she is carrying a fetus, the bitter drink causes her to abort it.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

Numbers 5:19-22 >

LMAO how dare you use their own sacred scriptures to prove to them they don't understand their own religion! >

I do love how many try to say it totally is not about abortion. Some interpretations say they meant thigh rather than womb. A rotting thigh generally is not associated with a swelling belly and infertility. Most likely it was something like loin since ancient Israelites probably were not great at anatomy. I have also seen people say it defended women against jealous husbands and rarely ever correlated with a woman becoming infertile. Except if she does not drink the water, they fucking stone her to death. The bible generally is not very big on women's rights either. >

It's only a mistranslation when they don't agree with it. Otherwise the Word of God as written in infallible. >

I never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it? >

This is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists.  They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.
Which from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us. >

Also the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so >

Yeah, when I first talked to my mom about being atheist in high school, she didn't believe I actually was at first because she knew I was a moral person.  
Thankfully, my mom is pretty open minded and understanding for a religious person.
I just described to her that fear of punishment from an unseen being isn't required, simply treating other people how I wanted to be treated is a pretty effective moral compass to start from. She did agreed but until it was brought up, she hasn't thought of it that way, it seems. >

Fuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job. >

I mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason >

Fortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance >

This shit is getting out of hand.  Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want. >

You obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals. >

This is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem. >

Ex-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.
That's the real headline. >

If you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing. >

Can you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees? >

What’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. 
I could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). 
Oh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol. >

Before you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.' >

That is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, "And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?" >

Ah, but consider Joshua 3:7 "takes one to know one." >

But what about Matthew 7:2
“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’
And the lord did reply:
‘Fuck you thats why.’” >

Ok but I mean that's like most of the old testament lmao >

Subpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.
I'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them.  For Jesus. >


Subpoena her patient calls

Oh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost >

Bullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare.  It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop. >

She didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck. >

Literally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.
I'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though. >

People like her typically holler about persecution. >

If your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. 
Simple. >

In my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity. >

God damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country.  If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else.  
If I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow. >

Haha! I hope she loses that suit >

I’m honest to goodness afraid this will end up at the Supreme Court and she will win. >

Maybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then? >

Nurse swore the hypocritic oath instead. >

"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs?  Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!" >

This. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to. >

It's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas. >

Exactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the "fruit of her womb". >

It actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that >

Unfortunately, the fanatical propaganda is way ahead of you

Furthermore, Luke 1:41–43 clearly teaches that unborn babies—even in the first trimester—are valuable persons. It says,
And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”
The third trimester John (who was already “filled with the Holy Spirit” according to Luke 1:15) leaped for joy in the presence of the first trimester Jesus, who was even called “Lord” in His first trimester. How can a “clump of cells” be Lord?

They're really twisting the fantasy parables to be as literal as possible. >

Why do you need money if you believe in heaven? >

To make sure you can get into the good section.
You know, away from "those" people. >

How much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians? >

Don't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in... >

Fuck her religious beliefs >

The judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.
My guess: she won't be able to. >

Hyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs. >

Get a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate. >

Religion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job. >

Can I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5. >

My religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work >

Your religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot >

Hope this person gets counter-sued into oblivion. These christians have gotten far too confident these recent years and need to be shown that they cannot force their beliefs on others, because that is exactly what this nurse was doing.
If you don’t like birth control for “religious reasons” then you don’t have to take it. But that doesn’t mean you get to dictate if other people use it. That’s not your fucking business. >

Thats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's "their fault."
Nurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.
I work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional. >

The only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. 
Fuck you, do your job >

Dear Christians;
How about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do? >

No do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus. >

If your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion >

Bigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence . >

Good. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism. >

Don't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient.  
Do no harm. >

Why the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! 
Can’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole? >

A lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story. >

Sorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired.  It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear "religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner." >

My wife takes birth control for various reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with avoiding pregnancy.  Religious people need to get their dirty minds out of the gutter and realize this has more uses than to interfere with your obsession with conception. >

Oh, fuck off already. "My beliefs, my beliefs." Bitch, this is about the patients, not you. I'm so tired of these self-made martyrs and self-oppression wanting attention. They take these jobs KNOWING what the end result will be.
Phoniest "Christians" in the world. >

Medical professionals who think their personal beliefs are more important than actual real medical issues and patients are in the wrong profession. >

Sue her church for making medical recommendations. >

Well. She’s going to lose. As she should. >

I’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others. >

indeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State.  freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects >

Conservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal. >

If your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. 
Not doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option. >

Sue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license. >

Umm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job.  Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy… >

If you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career! >

Sex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.
If I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?
Absolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.
But suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?
Why can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.
Why can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.
In both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.
And if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.
Because if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.
If it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.
AND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.
But Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit. >

I do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you.  If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off. >

It is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.
If the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.
If the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.
If the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.
If you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION! >


She said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.

I can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.
I find this much more curious: 

But in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.

I would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds. >

Baptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google "do baptists allow birth control" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not. >

Another bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me. >

Hilarious that these "businesses can do whatever they want" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.
Like Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it. >

If your religion tells you what healthcare you can get, fine. Have fun.
If your religion tells my wife and daughters what healthcare they can get?  Then fuck you and your religion from the deepest bottom of my heart. >

If you refuse to prescribe an extremely common medication because of your religion, medicine probably isn't the field for you. It isn't everyone else's fault that you're religious. >

If your religion dictates that you cannot do the tasks and responsibilities of a job, you should not have that job. >

Frankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here. >

I remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.” >

So a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?
She’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness? >

This is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork. >

If your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider. >

“Find a different profession” if you give biased care. >

What a dummy.
That's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop. >

So she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”
And what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.
This NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap. >

A healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. 
If it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient. >

How do you get through all that medical education and still not understand and accept the reason abortion should be legal? >

If your religion is against the job task, why the fuck did your dumb ass sign up to do the job task?? (Literally, because she is an employee, and signed an employee contract I'm assuming.) >


And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Sounds like losing some money is doing her a favor. >

They stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane. >

They love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges. >

Fuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause. >

If your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you. >

Suing for discrimination because they want to discriminate. >

If she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one. >

"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway." >

Find a new line of work, Nurse! >

She got into the wrong profession then. >

My job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though >

This shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too. >

If your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job. >

If your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job. >

the board should review the NP's license
it's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license >

Stop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for. >

No sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job. >

Get a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties >

If religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job >

She's in the wrong line of work. >

Religious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job. >

I have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do. >

If your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS. >

Why would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers? >

trying to practice their religion on other people.
I am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.
vs
I am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts. >

She should lose and be required to pay their legal fees.
She should also lose her license. >

I hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs. >

My religion requires you to actually pay me for a 12 hr shift when I don’t come in at all and I instead do something else.
I will also be suing >

The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals. >

And refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional. >

Yeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit. >

They want to turn it into a battle where they're being persecuted for their religion, that way all the bullshit they get told in church about how they are targets for being Christian will be proved right
But the truth is, they didn't say, "take off your cross and deny christ or else we're firing you" 
They said "you're job description is to accomplish X, Y, and Z at your job and you are refusing to do X because YOU claim it's against your religious beliefs."
Fuck that lady. >

Wouldn't this be the opposite then?  Shouldn't she be prosecuted for enforcing her religion on others?  By denying someone a legitimate prescription because what they need is against her own beliefs, she is in turn saying "Fuck your beliefs, mine are better than yours and you must respect and follow mine" >

She's not even saying "Fuck your BELIEFS" she's saying "fuck your HEALTHCARE, my religion is more important than your life"
Others have said, it's not a crime, but it damn well should be >

From the article:

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship"

Only having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.
Hope she gets destroyed in court. >

If you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. 
Imagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. 
These are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job. >

pretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade. >

Yep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours. >

That's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues! >

Actual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. 
There are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff. >

Pretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination. >

Hooters has gotten around discrimination lawsuits in the past because they are hiring "entertainers" and not general restaurant wait staff. When hiring an "entertainer" you are somewhat allowed to use discriminatory hiring practices. >

Does that mean they aren't allowed to pay their wages based on estimated tips, like they would for a server? >

Either way, Hooters girls make pretty great money. Girl in my dorm waited tables there to pay for college and she hated it but it was really good money so she dealt with it. 
Nicest girl ever. Always felt kinda bad for her; cant imagine that's a very fun job >

My dad would tip the hooters waitress like $20-$50 each time >

If I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS >

Theyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.
They're supposed to just say "I'll get someone else to help you"
But what a lot of them was doing was saying "CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave".
Two very, very different things. >

“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”.  Pretty cut and dry. >

Which is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional. >

And that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more. >

Except those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. 
I, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts. >

A nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired.  
Period >

They gave vaccines, and even got the required ones. But when the covid one became mandatory they started to screech anti-vax. 
I honestly can't just give this summary since it hurts my brain to think that someone can go into that field and claim to be anti-vax. >

I remember reading the case about a Marine that was discharged for refusing the vaccine because of its use of fetal tissue. She didn’t really have an answer when asked why she got the MMR vaccine that used the same tissue sample. >

Many many years ago I was an apprentice plumber and it was a legal requirement for my apprenticeship to get a bunch of vaccines to protect against diseases. hep a hep b MMR, typhoid ( that ones a cunt of a shot ) rabies ( not that we have rabies in my country anymore ) and a couple others, I didn't like it, but after talking to a lot of the old master plumbers and hearing horror stories of the shit they had contracted in their careers I took my vaccines and the typhoid and hep ones have certainly paid off over the years when I've been exposed to that shit.
Like a lot of people I don't like getting shots, but I'd rather the shot than a dose of a preventable disease. >

Any religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?
Is fucking insane. >

Isn’t that like…. Most of them >

Weird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked. >

Which religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self >

Meow-rmon
(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.) >

Tell me more man! >

We spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.
We set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.
And if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor. >

Wait, can I convert? What’s the process like? Nvm, I swear undying love to our feline lords and saviors!! >

If you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her. >

Unless she took the job specifically to start a fight. >

Step 1: Take job that you know will violate your "religious beliefs"
Step 2: Refuse to do job and get fired
Step 3: Sue job for wrongful termination 
Step 4: Profit! >

My friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a "disease". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years. >

We had an employee who did this kind of thing also. He was hearing impaired, so my boss said, hey let’s give him a chance. He used hearing aids and could hear ok so no problem. Except, he would only choose to hear what he wanted and ignore when he was told what to do at the job. Most of the time he didn’t do anything and when asked why, he’d say- “Oh you never told me that, or I didn’t hear you”. This went on until he was fired for not doing any of the job. He quickly sued after. Later we found out he’d done this same pattern to all his previous jobs. >

I've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms.  Or a Hindu, with beef specifically.   I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically. >

“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”
“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”
“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!” >

Personally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.
There is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? 
The whole thing is nonsensical. >

They should state which Bible verse is against birth control since birth control pills is never mentioned in Bible . You know, Supreme Court style. “The word Privacy is no mentioned in constitutions so it is not protected.” Well. “birth control pill is not mentioned in Bible so it is not included in the religion protection.” >

Abortion is mentioned in the Bible. It is prescribed to a woman who is possibly unfaithful to her husband. The suspicious husband is to take his wife to a rabbi where the rabbi will give her a bitter drink. If the bitter drink causes her belly to swell and womb to rot, she was unfaithful. If it does not, she was faithful. Basically the rabbi gives her an abortifacient and if she is carrying a fetus, the bitter drink causes her to abort it.

Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

Numbers 5:19-22 >

LMAO how dare you use their own sacred scriptures to prove to them they don't understand their own religion! >

I do love how many try to say it totally is not about abortion. Some interpretations say they meant thigh rather than womb. A rotting thigh generally is not associated with a swelling belly and infertility. Most likely it was something like loin since ancient Israelites probably were not great at anatomy. I have also seen people say it defended women against jealous husbands and rarely ever correlated with a woman becoming infertile. Except if she does not drink the water, they fucking stone her to death. The bible generally is not very big on women's rights either. >

It's only a mistranslation when they don't agree with it. Otherwise the Word of God as written in infallible. >

I never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it? >

This is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists.  They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.
Which from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us. >

Also the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so >

Yeah, when I first talked to my mom about being atheist in high school, she didn't believe I actually was at first because she knew I was a moral person.  
Thankfully, my mom is pretty open minded and understanding for a religious person.
I just described to her that fear of punishment from an unseen being isn't required, simply treating other people how I wanted to be treated is a pretty effective moral compass to start from. She did agreed but until it was brought up, she hasn't thought of it that way, it seems. >

Fuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job. >

I mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason >

Fortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance