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Cops should be held to higher standards than Joe the officer worker.
They literally had to call the paramedics to get him out of his car and on a stretcher. They failed to prosecute or cite him cause they didn’t get a blood sample, so couldn’t charge him with being intoxicated. >

Probably didn't get the sample on purpose because they knew he was drunk and if they had they'd have no choice but to charge him. >

It’s this. I was arrested for possession of cannabis in 2013 or so and they took my to the hospital for a blood draw. They were making lots of fun and having a great time at my expense. Handcuffed to the chair in the room they said “don’t go anywhere hahaha” and the nurse leaned in and said “we’re gonna take care of this hunny” and my blood samples never showed up to wherever they’re supposed to go. I think I’m supposed to get one to test with my own doctor and they do their own test so I’d have something for court but nobody got any of them so my case was thrown out. >

fuck cops >

Don't fuck cops they are taught that the sex they have after killing someone is the best they will ever have. Lets have cop fucking boycott maybe they will kill less people? >

Or coerce / rape female prisoners. Something that has also happened a bunch before. >

They actually argued that you consent to sex in custody. 
As in, you are sitting the back of the police car, handcuffed, because the person with the gun decided you needed to go to jail...but asks if your down to bang... nope now power imbalance there. >

Yeah totally equal power balance. >

" Meier will be earning a salary of $110,399, an increase of $10,000 from his previous position as an officer."
Wait so this dude was already earning 6 figures after being demoted after being found drunk and unresponsive behind the wheel which is a felony......y'all can't tell me cops don't have a completely different justice system >

and they think they are underpaid
and that 110k is before contractually obligated mandatory minimum overtime (so even he if doesn't work a minute overtime, he still gets x hours - usually a couple of hundred). In the town I live in, if the cops work 10 minutes over, they get 4 hours overtime. >

I think that's fair pay if officers actually did what they pretend they do.  Protect and guide the community, stave off evil men, being beacons of decency.  Modern day knights-errant
I just don't think police have ever been like that, beyond corrupt henchmen. >

the cops in my town sometime help people out
and sometimes they try to get involved in the community by giving kids cop trading cards >

so did capone's guys >

I remember when this happened. It was right after they killed Elijah McClain. Not surprised. The whole police department there needs to be completely cleaned out >

I believe they hired a new police chief and claimed it was to do that. They fired her shortly after though. My guess is that she was trying to clean up the department and what they really wanted was to make it look like they were clean up the police department not actually do so. >

She was a nutter who was married to a woman who was using her job at Child Protective Services to attack political enemies. Now they've hired someone worse, some chief from Florida who apparently appeared on the Alex Jones show. >

Ugh! Aurora PD is such a shit show. 
Remember they are also the PD that forced 5 black kids to lay on hot asphalt because they didn't know the difference with between a motorcycle and a car. >

Hey, he’s gone three and half years without being caught drunk driving. He deserves a promotion. >

Literally passed out in a running car...  
Imagine what a normal person would get for that. >

Well in Indiana a “normal” person would get a c misdemeanor charge. The lowest level of misdemeanor if you are wondering. OWI is looked at softly whether you are a cop or not. >

I know someone who parked their car off the road and went to sleep. Left keys in the igntion. Got OWI.  But they were not in Indiana. >

There's a case in Wyoming where a guy knew he was too drunk to drive, knew the law about control of a vehicle while intoxicated, so he threw his keys over a high wooden fence, then went back to his car to sleep off the alcohol.  The cops find him sleeping in his car, ask him where his keys are, scale the fence and then arrest him for dwi.  Court ruled that because officers could scale the fence to get the keys, the guy was still in control of his vehicle and could therefore be charged with dwi. >

By that logic, anyone who hasn't destroyed their car keys before having a drink can get a dwi. >

Agreed. Short of locking my keys in a bank vault with no combo/key, it could be argued I could get them at any other location/point as well by that logic. Just more "justice" being served I guess. >

I mean really you could always borrow somebody’s car or steal a car, so maybe we should just walk into bars and arrest everybody who is already drunk if there happened to be any motor vehicles at all within walking distance of the establishment. 
It’s a line drawing exercise. I think that most of us agree that getting into a motor vehicle while intoxicated and driving on a public highway is not something that should be tolerated. But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. 
I’m just curious whether people would back these policies for other kinds of crime.  I mean I guess that we do talk about it with guns, suggesting criminalizing merely possessing a gun rather than waiting for a violent crime to happen. But that’s really hypothetical; we talk about gun control but for the most part it doesn’t happen. >


But we have these laws set up to basically move the line backwards from where the actual dangerous thing occurs Because apparently for practical reasons we feel that it is necessary to get people before the dangerous things happen. 

Honestly, I think it's because a majority of people take more satisfaction in "catching the bad guy" then the possible consequences of getting the wrong person bothers them. People love that feeling, you can tell anytime some criminal gets caught. Regardless of what they did, it's still weird seeing people joke gleefully about prison rape and the consequences someone might suffer. I'm glad they're off the street, but I'm not celebrating more suffering. >

Yes, I think there is that. To go back a layer I think it comes down to the sociological “other.” We have a tendency to love dehumanizing people for all sorts of reasons, and it’s not really as simple as a good/bad binary where only bad people engage in prejudice and hatred. I think most people are quite happy to categorize others as “criminals” for any available reason and once you have put the other into a category like that the whole idea of criminal justice reform just seems kind of silly. Those aren’t people, they’re criminals. Something is wrong with you if you think that they need to be treated humanely or fairly. >

People in positions of power are never truly held accountable. It's the powerless that are and never allowed to redeem themselves. Fuck, he wasn't arrested, wasn't fired, received a work demotion, but promoted just a few years later. Aurora police didn't care about accountability then, and now they remind everyone the rules are just different for police. >

Tbf 3.5 years is plenty of time to clean up your act.  Should he have gotten in more trouble for driving drunk?  The rest of us sure would, but how much time after a DUI has to pass before redemption is on the table? >

He should have been fired and ineligible for rehire. A DUI will permanently bar you from any job I've ever heard of where you drive a car all day. And for a cop to be drunk on duty is wildly unacceptable. The dude was drunk as shit while carrying a gun. He absolutely should not be allowed to be a cop after that.
Also, why would he clean up his act? There were no consequences. >

It’s absurd that you even have to explain that for some people. >

I’ve not been caught drunk on a job for way longer than that, where’s my promotion ?? >

Ya gotta be a cop to get promoted for mediocrity. >

Not even mediocrity in this example just straight “I break the laws and nobody gives a shit”. I wonder how many people he’s taken to jail for driving under the influence since his little incident. >

The “mediocrity” is that he managed to not get caught for 3.5 years in an alcoholic stupor while armed and at the wheel of a police car. >

Sure, but when I do it I'm 'endangering the public'. >

If a member of the general public did this (5 times the legal limit, armed, and in a running car) they would still be dealing with the legal fallout, damage to their career and personal life 3 years later. >

It was a normal everyday person,  That person would have been convicted of a DUI and arrested on the spot.
The cops don't need to abide by the law they enforce.  This is why there is (rightly) the defund the police movement. >

IMO -  If the people in Aurora would stand up, this wouldn't be an issue.   The people of Aurora leave this is acceptable behavior and support it.   If they didn't supported  There would be protests.   The cops are doing it because they can get away with it. >

For real, after the Elijah McCain murder the city should have turned out in force, but here we are letting these thugs lord over the community and get away with blatant abuses of the law. Stop coddling bad actors. >

Yes, I agree with you.   If people are upset, stop complaining and take action.
In most cases, the police force is one agency that reports to the director of public safety.  Usually, the director of public safety is appointed by the mayor.  If that's the case in this instance, march on the mayor's  office. Propose a recall.  Do not vote for the mayor.   I guarantee if the mayor's job is in jeopardy then actions will happen. >

“Aurora’s Mediocorerst” >

Mediocre is a big compliment to these shitty cops. >

A friend of mine was caught drunk behind the wheel of her parked personal vehicle and was promoted at work too! Just kidding, she was arrested and lives with a DWI on her record making her life a living hell for the last decade. But good for this guy.. >

What was she doing drunk behind the wheel even if parked tho >

Sitting?
Though cops will arrest you for a DUI even if you're sleeping in the backseat. >

Like churches, cover up or relocate. Get them back on duty asap. >

They didn't bother to cover up,  or relocate, just a 10% raise and a promotion. Who's going to do anything? The new chief was singing his praises on TV last night. No amount of outrage will do anything. >

All fair points. >

It's called Failing upwards >

You get promoted until you cant meet the expectations or no one catches the mistakes until it becomes a big mistake for those special cases. >


Aurora PD

the fact this PD still exists is an absolute mindfuck.  just never ending in the news about how much they fuck up everyday. >

I can accept that someone turns their life around after a DUI and deserves to reclaim their lives. 
But those are people that actually got a DUI, not a demotion >

Rules for thee but not for me >

What is sketchy to me is the fact that even with that smudge on his record, he still came in third competitively with everyone else trying for that position. How bad were all the other candidates? >

A barista at Starbucks would be fired if they were found passed out drunk WHILE ON THE JOB.  American police get promoted for it.
Nothing makes sense. >

And police all over America wonder, “Why don’t people like or trust us?”. >

Meier shares his story with police cadets and other employee groups, in an attempt to help them avoid what happened to him, according to Acevedo. 
So he goes around and tells other police how to get drunk at work while in uniform and armed and get away with it. >

Now he gets to tell them how he was promoted after that. >

I've never been to Aurora, but somehow I know how fucking horrible its police force is. >

Can’t keep a shitty cop down…. >

Its amazing how shit that would normally send people to jail for a long time and ruin any chance for betterment in their lives never seem to apply to cops or rich people. >

OF COURSE Art Acevedo is the man responsible for promoting this dude. He’s notorious in Austin and Houston. >

Our best and brightest. Our finest and most honorable. The thin blue crust >

So my great uncle was a sheriff once before in like the 70s or something long before I was even conceived and he got wasted drunk cause he was an alcoholic and crashed the police car in a ditch and passed out driving while drunk.
He got fired immediately. And this was in the rural south. What happened to this? Why isn't this guy instantly fired??? >

because this dude probably has something on someone in power. >

Yeah in my experience power structures as a whole are fucked. Like there is zero accountability. >

If I showed up drunk to a zoom meeting I’d be fired. This cop can get behind the wheel shitfaced while strapped and on duty and he keeps his job and later gets a promotion.
Ridiculous corruption. >

what the hell is going on with colorado cops? >

I’ve been drunk in the backseat of a police car, how come I never got promoted? >

The good ol boys network still at large. Disgusting cockroaches. >

Still waiting for the good cops to call out this bad apple before they spoil the bunch, but the crickets make it seem like it's too late already.... >

That’s because police believe shitfaced fucks can be redeemed as long as they are wearing a police uniform…
“Fuck the police” — NWA >

Wow so how many years does he got sober did he go to AA do we have proof of that we'll just give him a gun and send him out there what the hell we don't really care what's going on here. In wartime this would have been a court-martial offense but we make it soft for these guys. Hey maybe next time he'll be this drunk when he shoots somebody let's see how many hoops they'll jump through to save his ass then. >

When I worked in telecom, the Aurora facility was the worst one nationwide according to our techs.  That place is a mess. >

And here I am with a degree and I can't even find a job, guess I should have became a cop. >

Nothing stopping you. >

Randy… I AM the liquor. >


Interim Aurora Police Chief Art Acevedo said when he learned of the pending promotion and Meier's history, "I did bring him in and spoke with him. I actually had him come in and we had a very frank conversation."

Fired Miami police chief Art Acevedo takes Colorado job
Miami police chief being fired after 6 months on the job
Chief Art Acevedo reprimanded, docked 5 days pay >

When I think about the bogus times I've been fired it really irks me to see people who should be held more accountable for their actions, not held at all. >

The Peter Principle is broken. >

Damn.  I’ve been looking for advancement all wrong for all these years! >

Pretty low standards for who they let carry a gun and badge. This Brazil?? >

Moral of the story. If you drink and drive you will succeed. >

This is so disappointing. >

You, on the other hand, wouldn’t have a driver’s license for another half a decade. Because, nobody’s above the law, amirite? >

but the good cops, they should change this right? >

They are implying it was a suicide attempt.  He shouldn’t have access to firearms in that case, even if he remains in public service. >

The police are just another gang. One with the law on their side. >

Right, but I have to go to jail. Makes sense. >

The internal affairs investigation is not admissible in court? Well that’s pretty fucked up >

No it’s not. 
You can be forced to admit things that might incriminate you or lose your job. Evidence gathered under coercive circumstances like that isn’t allowed in court.
Doesn’t just apply to cops and internal affairs investigations either. >

I’m pretty sure this should say — “still unemployed after being found drunk at wheel of police car.” >

wow, i could be a cop >

Ha that’s nothing. Here in Iowa, we make you governor! >

Here's what's amazing about this story, and I get that Meier, according to his superior, has turned his life around. That's great. We're glad. Because being on duty, driving while intoxicated with a BAL that is FIVE TIMES the legal limit, is not a good look at all. Glad he didn't kill anyone.
So he was a cop in crisis. Met a few of them. Maintaining one's sanity while being a cop is, at the very least, an exhaustive exercise. So many of them have issues with home life, alcohol, drugs, PTSD, domestic violence, etc.
If he had been a civilian at the time this video was shot, and this was his first offense, he probably would've gotten off with probation. But that comes with some pretty strict rules and conditions. You break the rules, violate probation, off to prison.
This cop is luckier than those he will be called upon to stop and/or arrest. >

It took 'em long enough >

They need to throw this whole PD away and start from scratch. >

Maybe is recovered now. Got treatment,  taking Antabuse,  attending therapy. >

So next time I'm driving drunk I can just say this is a "Medical Emergency" ?  
What a crock of corrupt shit. >

If you think that's crazy wait until you find out about the mfs that get promoted in the military lol >

As a Colorado resident, this makes me fucking so sick. This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. Any other citizen would have been just now getting done with probation with the level of crime this PILE OF SHIT COP DID. 
THIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PROTESTED Aurora!!
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FUCK THE POLICE
AURORA MAYOR MIKE COFFMAN IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR!!
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You bet your ass I will be here asking why this cop is even still employed. Please join me. >


This state for everyone else has some of the most strict consequences for dui in the country, it’s basically a zero tolerance state. 

That’s just not true for a first offense.
Average sentence is a fine, probation, and taking a MAAD seminar.
The fine is pretty pricey, all told with court costs you can be talking 1200-1500 dollars. 
It’s multiple DUI convictions where Colorado gets harsh. >

You are talking out your ass. 
It is for first offense based on what your blood or breath says, and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)
Minimum one year probation at minimum bac. 
MADD seminar 
Depending on BAC determines what track you get on for dui school which at its lowest track is 24 hours over 12 weeks and that costs somewhere around $50+ a week. 
Next is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week.  Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300. 
Then there’s the community service which is again based on your bac level, minimum is around 30 hours. 
Then there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. This cost is from the department of revenue and the interlock company which can be upwards of $200 a month.  If you refused a blood or breath test at time of your arrest your license is automatically revoked and once off probation you will have to retake your driving exam and use interlock for a minimum of two years. 
If any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.
Plus court costs and fines usually around $2500 
If you get a lawyer tack on another $2500-5000
Edit
This is all considering you did no property damage or hurt someone and just got pulled over and arrested.
Edit 2
Oh forgot to mention the dui schools are shady too AND can at anytime require you to take a piss test which is an addition cost.  Failure to comply is considered a parol violation. ——>JAIL.
Edit 3
Forgot to mention that the dui schools have course material and books which you also must purchase, I think they cost somewhere around $30-50
Also, they are very strict on not being late or calling in advance if you cannot make it to class.  When classes start if you are not there by the time class starts and the door is locked you are a no call no show. I believe you get 2 strikes here then kicked out of class and reported to parol officer and well you’re fucked. >


You are talking out your ass.

Bitch I work for a prosecutors office and used to work in a courtroom that held DUI cases all the time.
None of that is true on a first offense.
If it happened to you I know you are leaving a fuckload out of your description.

and if you refuse a test they throw the book at you. (Which became law in 2013 or 2014 on refusal of test)

The DMV can revoke your license for refusal and that’s been law for a lot longer than 2013. They actually made it easier to get an early reinstatement of driving privileges in 2014.

Minimum one year probation at minimum bac.

Mentioned that

MADD seminar

Mentioned that

Next is the drug test that you must do the entire time on probation which is random piss test or bac tracking daily via phone app and breathalyzer OR both. Cost is $20-30 each piss test which could be 1-3 times a week.  Cost of breathalyzer and monitoring is around $250-300.

Yeah you don’t get those without a hell of a lot cause. Let me guess, you got charged with another DUI or alcohol related offense while waiting for trial? Out of state convictions? Showed up to the courthouse drunk? 
I’ve seen people on their third DUIs not get those requiments. 

Then there’s the in car BAC tracking aka Interlock which you have to pay for (shady fucking companies run this too) and you have to have it recalibrated every month. 

Interlock only applies if convicted of a specific offense you can basically always plead out of. And if convicted interlock still only applies if you want your license reinstated early.
It’s an option to allow to pay to get your license back early.

If any one of these is not done straight to jail. 1 year min.

If any one of those is not done the revocation hearing happens and you’re almost always guaranteed a second chance unless they demonstrate malicious noncompliance. >

Wow this pig needs a very tight leash and he’s just free to keep eating donuts? >

He must know where all the bodies are buried and tried to drown it away. >

Justice for thee, not for me. >

At least if he is black out drunk he can't be shooting people for existing. Maybe if more cops were unconscious on duty the USA would be a safer place? >

I got two years in prison for remnants of heroin on the end of a syringe cap.
"Rules for thee, but not for me." >

I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes. 
It's inexcusable that they didn't take a breath or blood test to determine his level of intoxication. Even if they had he'd likely have gone through treatment and allowed to continue to work. 
If he is performing his duties and staying sober I feel it's reasonable to allow him to do his job under heavy scrutiny. >


but people need to be able to move past their past mistakes.

except for the part where most companies run criminal checks so no matter how long you've been sober, you have it on your record until you somehow can get it expunged
and this guy was magically never charged so he never has to worry about it >

Expungement is available for this exact reason. >

That's an insane suggestion. >

This is Ridiculous!!! Why did it take 3.5 years to promote?! >

People can rehabilitate themselves. I’m hoping that is the case here. >

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d say if he was held accountable (say denied earlier promotions, or perhaps demoted as a consequence and worked his way back), then I don’t see an issue.  What’s normal for police officer promotions and was he set back by his misconduct?
While in the military, I saw a lot of people get a DUI, lose rank, pay fines, get extra duties, and other punishments; denied promotions, withheld promotion, sat out of promotion cycles, even separated or court-martialed.  There are those who learn from their experience, take responsibility for their actions, and still manage to salvage their careers.  Maybe they don’t rise as high in the ranks, or maybe become better leaders because they were held accountable.
Outside of military, law enforcement, etc.; this would have meant nothing to anyone.  
Tl;dr — if a dude screws up, suffers the consequences, and rebounds to be a better person because of the experience, then that’s a success story.