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I think schools should teach children to be open-minded about that topic because the children will surely become more confused if we/teachers will teach them all sorts of sexual orientation, sexual preferences, sexual identity etc. They will learn it while they grow up, the most important thing to learn for children is to not judge other people and have some manners. The sexual orientation topics should be taught starting from highschool level and above so they can comprehend the topic better (Sorry if I have some wrong grammar, english is my second language)
I teach middle school and have never seen this in practice. Are there any actual examples of elementary-aged kids being taught about sex changes and the like? I know my school does puberty/sex-ed in 7th grade, but parents can opt their kids out. >

There are examples that are easy to find. It largely depends on location. >

Give some references.  Fox news is not a reliable reference. >

Refusing to acknowledge a reference just because you don’t like some of the sources beliefs is very dangerous and isn’t the best look homie >

Yeah thats why I get all my news from my crazy uncle who lives in the woods. Sure he thinks birds are spy drones and hasn't had a shower since the Clinton administration but I don't see why that should impact the quality of his reporting >

Sorry but A reference from a news company that has reporters and journalists is not comparable to a crazy uncle.
Again denying a reference just because you don’t like some of their beliefs is dangerous.
I don’t like a lot of things Fox News and the daily wire says but I’m not going to outright deny any of their stories just because they are right wing.
They legit uncovered a story about a rape that happened in a Virginia public school and the school board covered it up. If people just straight up denied that story just because someone who’s right wing wrote it then the superintendent that covered it up would still be working in the school system 
You can be skeptical about a source but don’t flat out deny it without looking into it >

What exactly are they teaching? Like specifically? The whole "teachers are teaching sexual orientation" thing is confusing. Does anyone have any sources for courses or something that shows what teachers are actually teaching on this subject? If you aren't even sure what is being taught in the classroom then you can't be critical of it until that is figured out. >

Me you bastard they were teaching me on detail how it worked it was absolutely digusting >

Lol why you gotta lie!
Kids are grossed out by their own parents kissing. Now here you are telling us that these lil shits sat down for idk 20+ minutes without making poop noises, listening and assimilating to some biological shit talk that they don't understand or care about! >

Name 1 school where you have actual physical proof teachers are doing this. One. >

I asked the same thing. Nada so far. >

Haven’t heard of this at all either >

i work in a class with 3rd to 5th graders and they know about sexual orientation and the like simply from existing in the world. no school i know of actively teaches anything about it, but i imagine if they did it would be in the vain of trying to decrease bullying and homophobia in the population which call me crazy seems like a good thing >

OP doesn’t understand that the internet and broader culture will bring information to children faster than a curriculum. >

Timmy has two dads.  Timmy’s classmates are confused by this.
Should the teacher be allowed to address their confusion?
If you’re at all rational, then yes absolutely.  Teachers should be able to teach about the world, and answer questions when children are confused.  There are gay teachers, there are trans teachers.  There are students with gay and trans parents and relatives.  Teachers should be allowed to address these topics with their students.
If you think that it’s “very concerning and sick” to teach kids about sexual orientation, then that includes heterosexual orientation, right?  Can’t teach that girls and boys like each other, or that mommies and daddies go together. >

I'm talking about elementary school aged children. Even straight sex ed isn't taught at that age. Why would a teacher feel the need to bring up their transgenderism in a classroom full of 7 year olds? >

Because kids ask questions.  Because parents ask questions.  Because teachers shouldn’t have to hide major things about themselves everyday, or fear losing their jobs.
No one is talking about teaching them sex ed, no one is talking about teaching elementary-age kids about sex.  But there’s no harm in clarifying that Mrs. Harris doesn’t have a husband, she has a wife.  And that yes, some men marry men and some women marry women.  That’s why Timmy has two daddies. >

I'm a teacher. Kids ask some questions that I don't, won't, answer. That's okay. I don't get paid to answer every question kids ask, I get paid to teach the curriculum and answer *relevant* questions.
And if a kid in elementary school asks me why Timmy has two daddies, I will tell that kid to go ask their parents. It's not relevant to my curriculum, and it's not my place to have that conversation with young children: it is their parents' job. >

That’s fine but some people like to go above and beyond for their job outside of just what’s required.  
I respect that you’re doing what’s required, getting paid, and getting out. Nothing wrong with just trying to get a paycheck. But some teachers see teaching as more than just the curriculum. See it as a way to help prepare kids/teens to grow up and get ready for the real world. And spoilers there’s a lot of LGBT+ in the real world. >


That’s fine but some people like to go above and beyond for their job outside of just what’s required.

And there are jobs where if you try to go above and beyond (like if you are an EMT who is not trained to be an A-EMT), you will get sued for trying to do something that you are not supposed to be doing.
It's. The. Parent's. Responsibility. >

I remember learning about slavery when I was in elementary school but yeah, learning that homosexual people exist is where we should draw the line lmao >

That's because learning about slavery was part of your history curriculum, get the point. >

I know, Oogabooga gay people so scary >

Oogabooga, pedo/trans is a mental disorder. Get over it. >

I assume you support teen pregnancies then? 
Because if you are talking about real facts and statistics, this happens the most among uneducated teenagers. >

I'm not being dismissive or even completely disagreeing necessarily  but anytime I hear about this noone  provides(usually because it's ends up being secondary school or college level when you look into it) like a actual explanation of what they teach it's such a vague wide net description i struggle to even respond like of you said they are teaching about India in history that could so many thing at varying levels of details.But why is a 6 year old knowing what a gay person is so scary and unchild like anyway ?almost ever kids film I watched when I was a kid there was a girl love interest chrachter and I think it would be insane to say that was adult and Equally in sane to suggest six year old me is straight because it was a girl.(I'm only bringing this up because people unironically have this as an argument in relation to gay people).
There seem to be this tenancy to connect being gay with being adult which I think come more from how the media and both political parties frames it than reality.
On the surgeries stuff how exactly that work if their not allowed to teach you about sex ed and the parts how are they gonna teach about people who get surgeries for them what your suggesting only makes sense if they lowering sex ed to primary school you know you would've heard about that if true.
Also on the stuff teacher should teach,you never got basic sociology or anything along of those lines.
I should probably acknowledge I'm from the UK and I assume this an American news story but my family exclusively watches Conservative news channels and I would have probably seen them report on similar things over here by now if it were as much of a crisis as you've been told. >

Educate yourself with a trip to LibsOfTikTok >

I tend not to follow people who dox people for a living, really low bar I know. >

How is reposting what others put out on social media supposedly "doxxing"?
Short answer: it's not.
Conclusion: you don't sincerely want to be informed or confronted with what's happening out there. >

I’m a teacher and I don’t know of any district that does this. >

What is unscientific about saying some people are attracted to the same sex, or both, or neither?
You say your sex ed was scientific in the 5th grade (ours started at the 4th and went through 7th, all science based, and health was too). >

I have literally never seen an example of this… >

I love how the left denies this is happening >

Theres a very thick huge line between LGBT sex education and teaching young children that you can love anyone you want. No we shouldn’t be teaching any sort of sex education including lgbt sex education until kids are in middle and high school. But from a young age, kids should be taught that men CAN marry men and women CAN marry women just like a man and women CAN marry eachother. Its literally a LAW that all those people can marry each other so how is it any different than tell a child you cant speed in a car or take stuff from a store. Its a law that everyone can marry any sex they choose and that’s something the kids are going have to accept growing up. Just like how the have to accept they cant steal a candy bar. >

I feel like some examples would be helpful here. >

go visit LibsOfTikTok for countless examples. >

Libs of TikTok is basically a hate group devoted to harassing queer teachers. They cherry-pick videos of teachers talking about LGBTQ issues. >

I don't know mate.  
As a kid, a there were always those kids in my the class that clearly weren't into being a boy, despite being born into the body of one. They would clash and shock every time they had to do activities "Boys vs Girls" or play soccer while the girls played volley.  
I think talking about this stuff could make matters easier for some kids.   
And look, let's be honest.
People usually have this opinion that being "Gay is Bad", and we shouldn't make kids feel alright about being gay, because well, "Being gay is Bad". >

Kids should be able to be kids without thinking if they're gay, trans, or whatever. It shouldn't even be on their minds. >

Why? >

Because you are either a boy or a girl. There is no in between >

And if a boy feels like a girl or a girl feels like a boy, what then? >

What do you propose one does when a child goes to school with a classmate who has two dads? How exactly do you explain to that to the child without touching on the topic of orientation? >

Pretty easy, the kid should ask their parents >

Regarding your comments on educating kids regarding sexual orientation.
When your kid sees little Susan with two mommies or two daddies there is nothing wrong with educating them that they can love whoever they want. This makes YOU uncomfortable and that's a YOU problem not the rest of the world.
People have no problem asking 5 year old boys about their "girlfriends" because that's "normal". >

There are several reasons as to why educating children about their sexual identity is important. I will also preface my opinion that I believe in age-appropriate education for children.
First, it can help promote a greater understanding and acceptance of diversity in general. By exposing children to a variety of perspectives, experiences, and walks of life, we can help to foster a sense of empathy and open-mindedness that will serve them throughout their lives. I would also like to mention that this is exposure that they may nor may not ever experience out side of school.
Age-appropriate education of gender identity can also  help empower them to be their true selves. By providing children with the knowledge and language to understand and express their own identities, we can help them feel more confident and self-assured. >


age-appropriate education for children

I think everyone can agree with this. 
There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that LGBTQ+ people exist. 
I haven't seen any sources that prove children are being literally taught about how sex works, that they're being encouraged to get surgery and/or hormone therapy, that teachers are giving long diatribes about their sexual identity/preferences/whatever... just a lot of creepy conspiracy theories from people who accuse anyone questioning them of being "groomers" >

Agreed. An 8 yr old doesn’t have the wherewithal to understand sexual orientation. This also tends to cluster. My little sister, for example, came out as gay at the same time as her two friends, while she was in middle school. All 3 are dating men today. I haven’t asked about it much, but I assume they equated close female friendship with being gay. Obviously there are plenty of kids that are gay, but throwing 50 different orientations in their faces isn’t helping it’s confusing. They’ll figure it out as long as they know it’s ok to be the way they are. >

Very well said >

If anything, I specifically recall straight relationships being mentioned at my Sex Ed here in the UK in Year 6, which I believe is equivalent to the 5th grade.
They mentioned how boys might start feeling attraction towards girls and vice versa. Surely that should be banned too, right? I mean, that's an orientation kids are being taught about.
Or do you just want to call times where gay people exist sick times? 
Because that specific final language there personally, to me, indicates you might just be a slightly fucked up person. >

I think kids should definitely be taught that it's equally ok to be hetero or lgbtqia+. Once they have a healthy attitude towards it, the rest should work out fine later in life >

This should be a popular opinion. >

It is a popular opinion - among bigots. >

Claiming someone is a bigot because they don't want their children exposed to these ideas at an elementary school age is a pretty shitty argument. Care to elaborate? Or do you prefer just screeching bigot at anyone that doesn't follow along with your ideas. >

it is unreasonable to expect the public education system to cater to the ideological whims of every parent. Schools teach information, and all information is weighed down by political, ideological or in some cases theological baggage.
are you upset that schools teach science despite our current scientific understanding clashing with the ideals held by certain interpretations of some religions?
are you upset that children might encounter ideas they disagree with in literature
if we removed everything that might upset someone we would have to remove everything, so how about you stop being a snowflake and stop trying to police the words and actions of educators, and leave that sort of thing to the people who have literally devoted their lives to such things, like child developmental psychologists.
No? you being uncomfortable with "the gays" trumps all that?
give me a break. >

Give us a break and stop pushing politics in the classroom. Full stop. >

Everything is political. >

Strawman >

its fact, all information carries political weight you just happen to find a certain type of idea that also carries political weight distasteful. >

Interesting. Tell me your political stance on 2 + 2 = 4? >

I notice those are arabic numerals you are using. >

It’s all about nuance, of course young children shouldn’t be getting comprehensive sexual education but teaching kids that some men love men and some women love women etc is just not the same as sex education, it’s human relationship education and prepares them for the diverse range of people they’re sure to meet as they go through life. There doesn’t need to be anything sexual about it it’s just information. >

I agree. I think before puberty/middle school, most kids are largely experimental in expressing themselves so teaching them about gender and sex and sexual orientation could be confusing. 
When my son was a kid he would wear his sisters dress up princess outfits. And I think if at that age he had learned about gender identity, he might have been confused on if he was a boy or girl or what. 
When I was a kid I was a tomboy, still am. But I’m sure I would have been confused if someone explained gender identity to me before my teen years. >

Exactly >

Spot on - Health / Sex Ed should begin in Middle School >

sex ed isnt the same thing as sexual orientation overall. kids know about crushes and kissing and love and stuff at a very young age, and thats completely normal and fine >

ok groomer >

Better not let your kid watch any movie where people have romantic relationships--that's grooming! 
Kissing your spouse in front of your child? Grooming.
Your kid asks where babies come from? Believe it or not, straight to grooming. >

This is completely obvious to everyone except a handful of weirdos and groomers. >

“Completely obvious” and yet, not a single source posted in the thread. >

I think schools should teach children to be open-minded about that topic because the children will surely become more confused if we/teachers will teach them all sorts of sexual orientation, sexual preferences, sexual identity etc. They will learn it while they grow up, the most important thing to learn for children is to not judge other people and have some manners. The sexual orientation topics should be taught starting from highschool level and above so they can comprehend the topic better (Sorry if I have some wrong grammar, english is my second language)