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Land of the free
An excerpt from the zoning code reveals that residents of the county are permitted to perform "minor automotive repair" at their respective domiciles, so as long as they are working on a car which is registered to someone who lives there. However, the code also states that the repair must be minor (which is defined as "brake part replacement, minor tune-up, change of oil and filter, repair of flat tire, lubrication and other similar operations") and cannot be performed outdoors if the repair would leave the vehicle inoperable for more than 24 hours. >

Well that's dumb... so the entire city of Sacramento is ran by a Karen lead HOA >

I was shocked when I got a letter from the township telling me to mow my lawn.  I bought this house specifically because it didnt have an HOA.  Instead i get big brother.  :sigh: >

Tall grass attracts pests >

Not pests but native wildlife >

Lol ain't nobody want rats and snakes crawling around their house. Move to the country if you want that >

Move somewhere rats and snakes aren't native to if you want to avoid them. >

Nah lol. Mow your grass like you're legally required to >

The chemicals involved can..... 
Hold the fuck up. Most of the time, chemicals are involved it is a minor repair because it's an oil change, coolant flush, or other things that are common routine and minor repairs by definition. What a load of shit. Oil changes alone are probably 95% of the reason homeowners would ever be dumping chemicals improperly. Yet those are allowed. >

Why would anyone dump illegally when all they have to do is take it to the nearest auto parts store and they recycle it? >

Because they're lazy and inconsiderate. >

Or they just don't know >

randos are actively chopping out cats and the cops don’t give af, so how will this be enforced? lol >

This one is much easier to enforce >

Violent felons will fight back. Mechanics who own their own business and are working on themselves at home probably won’t. >

launching 9000 rpm grinder discs at the cops >

I have a dream >

Everybody defending this legislation drives a 2015 or newer car. I should be allowed to rebuild the engine of my car on my property as long as I don’t harm the environment or make too much noise. Zoning laws exist to prevent the backyard auto shop problem. The level of maintenance performed is irrelevant. >

In NY we now have an exhaust law. A loud exhaust gets you a ticket. I have not heard from anyone I know have it actually get enforced yet. So basically, the law says if your exhaust is louder than intended by the stock car it's illegal. That's cool. I'm sick of fart can ford Taurus, it's annoying.
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But what about me? What happens when I get pulled over with a 1970 wrangler with a fucking corvette engine in it? The car is legal. Do my decibels get checked as a jeep or a corvette? The law doesn't specify. >

You probably get to get shrekt because you modified a Jeep. To defend yourself in court, you'd probably need to prove that your monstrosity was greater than 50% Corvette. >

This is how Newark New Jersey was destroyed. When poor black families moved in from down south and bought homes the party bosses who were in bed with the construction unions passed legislation preventing them from doing their own home repairs. At the same time, the home improvement contractors would ask for exorbitant prices to do any work for them which led to homes falling into disrepair and abandonment. This had a domino effect as property taxes were raised to cover the shortfall for the abandoned homes. A perfect storm: >



As troubling as this might seem, it's believed that the code is intended to prevent small independent repair shops from popping up in someone's backyard. And while it may be, it also appears to be hurting enthusiasts at the same time. One particular member of the Grassroots Motorsports forum claims that they were issued a $430 fine for violating the code.


They’re laying the foundation for the future. Carmakers are releasing software packages that increase power or enable features- but only if the customer pays a fee.
Naturally , this business model falls apart if Joe Neighbor jailbreaks that stuff with tuner software - something a DA can easily argue falls outside of “normal tools”. As more carmakers turn to subscription services, we’ll see more enforcement. I wonder if the traffic stop line will change to  “license, registration, and pop your ODB port for a routine ECU scan” >

The people on here trashing this law have obviously never lived next to an amateur (or unlicensed) mechanic. They tend to not properly dispose of any waste like dumping all the oil into the storm drains, have a bunch of inoperable cars take up every street parking spot, and use power tools/rev engines all day and night. It’s a nightmare. 
And I’m not saying they don’t have a right to park a rusted out car on cinder blocks on their front lawn, but you’re delusional if you say it isn’t a total eyesore. >

I am 100% certain that if not local, then state and federal, regulatory bodies would be alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll up in their business about the dumping of oil and stuff; give them a call.
Also, I'm sure the local localality already had laws on-books about zoning that would cover backyard residential auto garages.
This isn't about stopping backyard mechanics. The laws to do that were already on the books. This is a haphazard piece of trash overreach legislation with vague wording. >

Land of the .... >

...Lost?  
...Lakes?
...Killer tomatoes? >

Fuck that. Pry my tools from my cold dead hands.
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(before anyone bitches, my yard is clean. I have two vehicles under the carport neatly, two in the garage, and two in my back driveway (my daily and my sister's daily). No noise from us at unreasonable hours, the vehicles aren't rotting, they don't look trashy when you go down the street. >

Clearly misleading. >

Please elaborate. >

I grew up in L.A.
The crazy number of broken down cars on blocks or just covered with what's left of a tarp was insane. 
People should absolutely be allowed to work on their own vehicles but that shit went WWW bang bang for a hot minute. If ya had a car up and something worth taking from it easily seen and accessible, you definitely saw an increase in creepers walking around. Day or night. >

if the church really wants to fight the devil they should fight homeowner associations. i might convert if they succeed >

Truly, what would we ever do without the government to protect us for ourselves. >

"You will own nothing" seems to be the inevitable trajectory of capitalism.
(one of them, anyway) >

I think you misspelled communism there mate, 
cant exactly build up wealth if youre not allowed to own or buy/sell anything >

another galaxy brain commenter that doesn’t know the difference between private property and personal property >

Alrighty then explain the difference >

Oh, I know this one!
Under communism all industries are government controlled. That's public property. Everyone owns it, in a weird sense. A small part for everyone even though they have no power. 
If you worked and bought a house, that's private property. Your neighbor doesn't own part of your house, it's yours. If an emergency hits they might force you to allow them to use your property, but that's a little pedantic. 
Under capitalism public property is things like schools and roads, which everyone pays for and is allowed to use. But they have no real power either.
But private property is the same. If you buy a house it's yours. The USA says they can't force you to house troops, but eminent domain can blow that up if needed. 
So the gov owns businesses and that's the big thing right? In the past, yes! Your (commy) gov won't take your iPhone but if you get good at fixing card or some shit and open a couple shops they can take over. But your (capitalist) gov doesn't do that. 
But now? You're fucked. Intel has subscriptions to use high end processor features. Multiple car companies.chsehe subscriptions for built in features. They can do that because they bought the government. So you'll own nothing, you'll rent it.
Private property is what can't be taken from you willy nilly, legally. Public property can. But it won't matter for long, so get over it. >

I thought America was the land of the free 🤔 >

Apparently that does not apply to California. >

COMMIEFORNIA >

Don't cut yourself on that edge. >

Joke's on you, I was only pretending >

Zoning laws protect people from adverse conditions…like having a professional auto repair shop being run out of your neighbor’s garage. I do most of my own vehicle repairs and could not see this limiting my work. If you run a shop then go lease commercial space instead of degrading the quality of life of your neighborhood. >

Imagine not being able to change out an oxygen sensor >

Dude, you’re an idiot. Read the article. >

So if I have a mechanical problem and a very probable fix with a confirmed bad part, replace part, re-check, and find there's ANOTHER bad part (say downstream o2 sensor confirmed bad, get it in and still getting undervolt from upstream o2), which I have to order, and it takes more than 24 hours, that should be illegal? It's my property, if it bothers you, it wasn't your business anyway.  
Edit: u/BenDinYoma I see your comment to me telling me to shut up is missing bud, feel free to let me know how incorrect you are again/how much you like the taste of boots. >

You also might have to buy an O2 sensor socket if it’s in a tough to reach place. That’s not an ordinary home tool so you can’t replace it at all. 
Stupid law by a stupid local government. >

Good news is that you can move to Reno and the same shit will happen! >

I don't buy into the headline's attempt at generating outrage because as someone who's lived in some...let's just say "stereotypical AF" rural areas, I know the exact kind of trashy garbage (and I mean the people who do this, and the no-longer-technically-a-vehicle scrap they've been "working on" for years) this is meant to counteract. Suffice to say, residents don't dispose of materials or liquids from these repairs properly and if you need to do hardcore shop work, take it to a workshop where they can dispose of all that stuff in a way that doesn't endanger the neighborhood pets/wildlife. >

I've seen more than a few of these houses, and quite a few that overflow their junkyard onto the street. Neighbor has 8 cars, none in the garage, 3 jammed into a 2 car driveway and the rest parked in front of other people's homes. 
Perhaps the law needs a bit of refinement, but you can see the intent for sure, especially with people dumping chemicals in the sewers as if that is proper disposal. >

Except dumping oil that way is already illegal. Make laws for the problems, not things that vaguely remind you of them. >

I have this same shit problem in my city.
Damn city board decided to pass an ordinance requiring all vehicles to be “titled, insured, and running” at all times, and yes the cops can legally just waltz into your garage or back yard and inspect any vehicle they see.
Yer shit don’t run? Better tow that thing to the nearest service shop or get it runnin in 2 weeks or they impound it.
Now I have 3 80s Nissans with varying needs of work to be done to them and a 2 car garage that I have to share with the Mrs (cuz heaven forbid she has to park outside). Technically all 3 run but 1 dropped a cylinder (reason unknown at this time & wont know til spring cuz fuck working on a car outside in the winter), one has a suspension part I can’t get out back on fully (damn shrunken 18 yr old rubber) and the final one is ok just hates cold weather. I can’t touch the engine one cuz it’ll be “disabled” therefor would put me in the 2 wk window. I ain’t got time to plow though a head swap in two weeks while I’m working.
And if I’m waiting on parts, well…..parts show up when I can find them and that task is getting harder and harder as time goes on, so things get delayed longer and longer.  Oh and I forgot to mention that the local service shops around me WILL NOT TOUCH my vehicles due to their age. I’ve tried and while my ladies got a lot of attention from the techs they won’t work on them: they say it’s “out of their wheelhouse” and don’t know how to perform work on them.
So I’m on my own and with this stupid ass ordinance I have no idea when I’ll get my work done (and before anyone says anything: the one that hates cold weather has to stay garaged cuz she’s in the best condition body wise but has water leaks from weatherstrips that have started to fall apart.)
I own my house, I should be able to use it as I see fit. If I want to pull and rebuild an engine the city can fuck right off. >


(cuz heaven forbid she has to park outside)

You prefer to shelter your dead vehicle inside and make your wife park outside in winter.  What a prince >

Seems like article is trying to drum up anger over a non-issue. I have family and friends in Sacramento. They all do their car repairs in the driveway, none have ever had any issues.  Police aren't patrolling neighborhoods looking for people working on their cars.  It seems plausible that this is actually used to punish those that are running repair businesses out of their driveway. >

Isn't there evidence that it can cause cancer in California? >

These kind of unnecessary zoning regulations should constitute a Fifth Amendment taking. Whatever policy goal they are trying to accomplish, this is the most burdensome way to do it. >

The purpose of this ordnance is to prevent people in residential neighborhoods from turning their homes into auto repair shops.  This is a way to enforce zoning restrictions.  The way it works in California is that it all comes down to complaints.  If someone has a little side hustle fixing cars, but is able to do it in a way that he is able to stay on good terms with his neighbors, there is usually no problem.  When it starts bothering his neighbors, he is going to have problems.  What it takes to piss off your neighbors is going to vary depending on the neighborhood. >

Then shut the door bro.. geesh.. only a murderer who WANTS to be caught does it in the public with no plan. good grief. >

Outright Fascist Corporatism. >

A friend of mine was working on his motorcycle in his garage and yanked off the tank.  Gas ran down the floor and found its way to the home's flame lit water heater which had not been installed to code.     The whole house burned down in about 2 hours. He's a great mechanic but shit happens. >

Eh it's not enforced as far as I've seen.
Am sacramentan, recently got my project car running after doing an engine/driveline swap and never got a visit from the police. Most of my friends are car guys and none of them have had any issues.
Granted we do our work inside our garages. If we had broke down leaking oil pos's in our driveways all the time maybe we'd be hassled. >

So Sacramento is just a giant gated community where other people get to tell you what to do on your own property. >

The state is governed by a Karen. >

what does state government have to do with Sacramento zoning regulations? >

Nothing. That wasn’t my point. >

GTFOH 🤣 >

Is there an auto workers Union? >

FUCK THE HOA FUCK THE HOA FUCK THE HOA
But seriously, everyone should see this as an attempt to make people less self-reliant and more willing to pay for things they could otherwise do themselves >

Almost unrelated - we also have a third garbage can we have to use for "food waste". So there's trash, recycling, and food waste (but not just any old biomatter like for composting) and you'll get a ticket if they find food in your trash. >

I’m glad I live in a gated community with a communal trash bin. We started to do this, but the flies and smell were worse than a sewage leak. 🤮 I just couldn’t do it! Plus a lot of our neighbors were putting theirs in plastic bags and tossing those into the food waste bins, so it defeated the purpose of having them. 🙄 >

California just keeps getting better and better >

This is how responsible and knowledgeable gun owners feel. Dumb rules that don't make sense made by people who don't know what they're talking about using vague language that depending who you ask is unnecessarily restrictive, or does effectively nothing. >

Totally stupid