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I betcha Sweden joins NATO before russia sees Kyiv.
That's funny because Turkey isn't even halfway to democracy >

Why do we keep Turkey in NATO? We really need to lower our tolerance for dictators. >

Mostly for geographic significance probably. >

This is precisely why. >

Yep, It is where “East meets West” and the the West would prefer they lean West.
I mean imagine if Russia,Turkey, and Iran teamed up. Absolute geopolitical nightmare for literally everyone else. >

Not to mention, they control the entrance to the Black Sea.  That's access to Ukraine and Russia by water, and we'd definitely like to be able to tighten things up if Russia misbehave. >

Turkey doesn’t control it.  It’s controlled by an international treaty.  If Turkey started denying passage in opposition to their agreement it would go very badly for them.  The whole reason the treaty was established was because everyone else was sick of fighting over that strip of land in the first place.  Not because Turkey was dictating the terms of the agreement. >


Turkey doesn’t control it.

If they're at war they do which makes it a benefit to have them in NATO instead of in alignment with Russia or someone else.

The whole reason the treaty was established was because everyone else was sick of fighting over that strip of land in the first place.

~~Huh? The last fighting over that strip of land was 500 years before the treaty was made~~ <- wrong >

Gallipoli was 500 years ago? >

ww1 - and we know how it turns out - since then turkey exists! >

It's the ole Turkish ice cream trick >

Hahahaha, that made me chuckle! 🤣