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The GOP is like a 5 year old caught in a lie, refusing to admit guilt or apologize.
Every president in history has defended the orderly transfer of authority except one.
Donald  Trump  refused  his constitutional duty to transfer  power to Joe Biden.
Nothing  that happened woild have happened  if it hadn't been for Donald Trump. >

He told us before in debates with Hillary he had no intention of respecting democracy or the  orderly transition of power. Americans still voted for him. >

For them it was a feature, not a bug. >

Who would have thought that the right would turn on the constitution so quickly. They literally made worshiping it a core aspect of their personality. >

*whenever it suits them! >

The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it." - Billy Graham >

Oh, fuck Billy Graham. >

It's not that the media would have won, but the Republican anti reality the GOP created for its voters to live in would have been contradicted. >

This. It's a break in the cult's messaging. Reality would come crashing into the false narrative Conservatives have cultivated over the past 30 years with Fox News, AM radio, the right wing noise machine, and an entire industry of grifters. >

Exactly. The truth could not be spoken out loud without shining a light on all the contradictory lies. >

Whoop de fucking do.
So what if the media "wins"? All that would've happened is that Jan 7 would be dedicated to how the insurrection failed, the things Trump did, then turn to the upcoming inauguration.
Sure, the punditsphere would be buzzing for weeks, but that will be about it. The NYTimes, WaPo, and others wouldn't go through the trouble of rehashing history without real context that the public needs, or should, know. >

Yeah, let's put it on the footsoldiers and staffers, not on the leaders. >

Fuck your cult >

Of course because who cares about the fact Trump ended a 246 year long tradition of the peaceful power of transfer? A cornerstone in any republic. >

No.
That's not how the civil war started. It wasn't the losing incumbent president refuting the outcome and whipping up a crowd to attack the process of certifying the next president who was legally elected. >

Different situation.
No one refuted the election
Comment was about peaceful transition between presidents.
You are moving the goal posts to make them the same. >

It's not the same situation, but it's certainly not different enough to not count. Had the seccession worked well enough to fight to a standstill, the south would have elected their own leader rather than accept Lincoln. Had they somehow defeated the north, they would have replaced Lincoln entirely and probably rewritten the constitution to make it stick. >

OP point was Trump was the first non peaceful transition of power between presidents.
Buchanan had nothing to do with the Civil War outside of his own inaction to stop things.
You guys are all widening the scope of things when all OPs point is Trump is the first sitting president to ask for a civil war to reinstall them as president after losing an election. That is 100% true and that is not how the civil war started. >

I'm still trying to understand what the media would have won. >

A mystery box. It could even be a boat. >

You gotta see it from McCarthy's perspective.
If he shows he has a backbone, people will start expecting it more.
He's a joke and his 2yrs as speaker will be meme fodder for decades to come. >

His congressional district is one of the most violent, drunk, uneducated, disease ridden, most polluted places in America. Surprisingly, this coincides with it also being heavily filled with reactionary MAGA crazies. McCarthy knows there’s a crazier Republican in the wings who’d primary him in a second if he “moderated” his stance in any way. He’s not that good of a politician and he’s too much of a coward to actually weather the wrath of his own constituents. >

GOP politicians always at war with the media instead of doing what’s right for the people. This is why they lose in court, because they’re more concerned with “public opinion” than facts.