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Jail the mother sucker for every crime is guilty of. Else all prison sentences, fines and executions are illegitimate. We’re either a nation of laws or not a nation at all. That fact that this guy ifs still walking around is a glaring failure.
Do both? >

A dark cell away from any traitorous yes men. >

No more excuses. No more 3d chess. He should be arrested and tried. The author suggests that the USSC might intervene in a prison sentence, but not his being barred from running? Absolute nonsense. They are far more likely to prevent his disqualification if he faces no criminal charges. And he will claim exhonoration if no charges are brought. The time has come to choose: do you support democracy or are you an apologist and a coward for a man who would destroy it? >

Yeah but jailing will show that there are consequences for your actions - even for rich people. >

Yeah I still think being in prison curbs your power, and I wanna see that sack of shit behind bars >

It didn’t fit Adolf Hitler or Nelson Mandela 
Both served sentences mid political career and became leaders of their countries after. >

This fat old traitor doesn't have 5 years lol. >

Winces in Kissinger. >

I kinda hope he stays out of jail long enough to face De Santis in the primary and turn those set of supporters against eachother >

Gotta admit, watching BoBo and Empty G going after each other has whet my appetite for some sweet  red on red fighting in the 2024 primary. >

Let them fight. >

We can do both. >

Trump should face justice for the sake of restoration of the rule of law >

From an outsider's perspective surely the point of jailing Trump isn't (directly) to keep him from power but more about holding politicians to account? The US system seems to rely on politicians following the rules but never applying any penalty if politicians break those rules, and it's started occurring to Republicans (mainly) that if there are no penalties for breaking rules then there are, in effect, no rules and have begun acting accordingly. >

I don't think you're wrong.
Many of the sanctions in the US system require more than a majority vote. If the party of the perp shelter them then things break down. >

Because a lot of what happens in the US seems to trickle into UK politics over time I look at the differences between the UK and US systems. Certainly there are some legal thresholds that are different regarding incitement but as far as I can tell a reason a lot of US-style shit hasn't happened in the UK is because UK politicians and judges don't have immunity against criminal prosecution (politicians have some immunity against civil prosecutions). UK politicians have gone to prison for making false statements about rival candidates but in the US even implied death threats are allowed to happen. There's also no impeachment step to go through, a complaint just has to be investigated by the police and brought to a normal judge/jury trial by the CPS. A government minister even went to prison for lying about a speeding ticket (technically he resigned as a minister before the case went to trial but that was to protect the government, being a minister didn't offer him any legal protection).
As an aside, what I find interesting about the UK politicians who've ended up in prison, for the most part the crimes they commit are for lying (perjury usually). The ability to prosecuting and imprison liars is possibly the cornerstone to a properly accountable and law abiding political class. The UK may have stronger laws and fewer impediments in this regard than the US but it's still horribly lacking IMO. I would like to see lying to/misleading parliament be treated the same if was a court of law, Johnson's demise would likely have come a lot sooner if his "partygate" lies to parliament were treated as a criminal matter rather than the long-winded, partisan, method where MPs get to decide whether other MPs have lied or not.
Certainly there are moves in the UK to interfere with how rules and laws are applied. Johnson was infamous  for several attempts to protect Conservative MPs from rule breaches, attempting to change parliamentary rules after the fact in an attempt to prevent an MP losing his job, and wanting to shield some government activities from judicial oversight. >

Having him and DeSantis try to destroy each other and the GOP’s chances of winning the 2024 presidency would be a treat for every civilized person. >

No, I want Trump to stay with some power.  
I want him to splinter the Republican party. I want him to make them eat the lunch they ordered back in 2016.  
The Republican party has become a diseased, festering part of American politics, and of America in general.  
When the rest of the world laughs at the US, it's because of the stupidity of the Republican party. >

But the point of sending a criminal to prison isn't to keep them from power.  It's just that we have these pesky things called laws, and when you break the bigger ones, you go to prison.
So power or not, he still needs to be on trial. >

He’s not going to get elected anyway so there’s that. 
Jail or not. 
If we locked all corrupt politicians up there wouldn’t be many left. 
Although none in recent memory (sans Nixon) can compare to the flagrancy of Trump. >

Trump is not a corrupt politician. He's a career criminal masquerading as a corrupt politician. >

Valid >

Jailing him will bring back some sense that there are consequences for committing crimes in this country even for the rich and powerful. >

it would, but there aren't. >

Too bad we don't have banishment as a punishment. >

I just woke up and I thought it said execution, I was like, dang yo >

Lock him up! >

Luckily for him, he is not a black dude who stole a 20$ T-shirt. He would be in jail for at least 10 years now. >

Jail is the based way to exclude someone from society >

Oh, I don’t think those two things are mutually exclusive. Also, being barred from ever holding office again and being sent to jail are probably the only two things he’s ever actually earned all on his own and that he actually deserves, >

Ignore him and he will implode with a massive tantrum >

But the media won't ignore him. They write article after article that the traitor dribbles out of his dementia riddled mind. >

Blah, blah, blah, blah. So how do we get a vote for the 14th amendment through Congress and the Senate? >

But jailing him will show that there is some function of justice in the U.S.. If we don’t, we may as well be a lawless nation. >

The only reason they don't want to jail him is the rest of the rich fucks want the privilege of doing horrible shit with no consequences. >

Sigh. The media is complicit. >

Jailing would be a good start tho >

Just bar him from office and also send him to jail - not sure what the issue is? >

If we had prosecuted Nixon rather than Ford pardoning him, we would have had precedent for prosecuting Trump. NOT prosecuting is what hurts our future. >

Of course, mob posses run their crime families from jail all the time. >

Let's start with prison. >

Why not enjoy the best of both worlds? Trump hasn’t got a hope in hell of becoming the Republican nominee, so don’t exclude him. Jail him and let him run from behind bars, thereby splitting the Republican ticket and ensuring that the Dems win. >

Simple humor will keep him out of power.  When enough of us laugh at just the sight of him, he's done.  We are not far from that. >

Trump will never see jail. Worst hell get is house arrest. In a mansion. >

Woah, I for one read that headline way too fast and thought it said something else >

Same. 
Bet I can think of what you thought it said. :) >

Yeah butnif you jail him. You jail his ego. He is going to have melt downs on a other level if inside. >

Shitty hot takes! Get your shitty hot takes here! >

Exclusion is not very inclusive, which is what Trump has fought for all along. That plus making sure you use his correct pronoun (LOL) >

Jailing Trump would affirm the concept that no one is above the law.
Not jailing trump would assure pubic confidence in the DOJ on the level of respect we now have for SCOTUS. >

Sigh.
Jailing Trump is excluding him. >

Execution will too. >

What I don't understand is that in many ways, influence, which is the the starting point for propaganda has been wildly to blame and yet for some reason it's lost on people that putting people in jail because they deserve to be is the problem with our modern society.
Fuck that, jail. >

Let's put him in prison and see.