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Poland's ruling nationalist Law and Justice (PiS) party says that agreement is invalid because Poland was unable to negotiate fair compensation. It has revived calls for compensation since it took power in 2015 and has made the promotion of Poland's wartime victimhood a central plank of its appeal to nationalism.

I'm polish, PiS can fuck right off, but sadly too many people think they're the good guys...
Is it already election time? >

Parliamentary elections in autumn, yes. >

It’s funny how predictable this is. >

In Australia, someone always rolls out a vague plan for high speed rail before every election. It then gets packed away after the votes are cast and not mentioned again for 4 years. >

In Turkey, our government finds a few trillion dollars worth of oil, gas, gold, or plutonium and threatens Greece before every election. >

Can confirm. Am Greek, feel mildly threatened as scheduled. >

u/Khutuck and u/pathanb Made my day. 
Would listen to the podcast. >

Khutuck and pathanb in the moooorning! >

What you doing? There are no cameras here >

That we know where this is from shows that there were indeed cameras. >


Poland estimates its World War Two losses caused by Germany at 6.2 trillion zlotys ($1.4 trillion) and has demanded reparations 

For context: A bit less than one-third of Germany's GDP. >

Didn’t making Germany pay crippling reparations help cause WWII? >

Yes, it was one of the biggest issues of the Weimar Republic and the economic damage it caused was a major factor in the German people shifting to support the rise of the Nazi party. >

So much so that the allies made sure not to do the same crippling reparations the second time, and instead opted for a more reasonable structure under the Marshall Plan. >

Did Poland get the Marshall plan? If I remember right, the regimes in the Soviet Bloc rejected it. >

That is correct and since Poland was under soviet occupation after wwii, soviets rejected it on behalf of Poland >

So maybe they should sue the USSR? Oh wait, it doesn't exist any more...
Could sue Russia, but good luck with that. >

Russia would generously offer to give all Poles the rights and privileges of Russian citizens to right this historic wrong. >

Feel free to begin making your way to Russia new citizen.
But we must implore, on your trip make a quick stop in Ukraine ... we have a favor to ask >


we have a favor to ask

we have favor to ask
(with accent)
FTFY >

Is it election time in Poland already? Its like clockwork. Yes, of course Germany refused just like they refused the last 100 times you've asked and they will refuse the next 100 times too. >

It’s not even a “refusal” but rather it was already settled. After WWII Germany was in complete financial ruin and didn’t have the money to pay. The Soviet Union was effectively in control of both Germany and Poland and so the USSR took some of Germany’s land and handed it over to Poland as reparations. Today Poland is trying to argue that that “deal” was invalid because Poland couldn’t really consent at the time and so Poland should get to keep the land AND Germany should still have to pay reparations. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too. >

None of the Axis powers were forced to pay reparations other than land ceded to the Soviets. That roll was more or less adopted by the US through the Marshall Plan, though Poland was forced by the Soviets to reject that aid.
If Poland has valid claims then a looooong list of countries would have claims too, and not just against Germany. It was settled when the victors said it was settled and that's really all there is to it. >


It was settled when the victors said it was settled and that's really all there is to it.

Yep. Pretty much. >

Who holds the ledger on history?  How far back do we go to ‘repair’ everyone who has a claim? >

Germany needs to pay for the sack of Rome for sure >

Time to make the Mongolians pay back for Genghis Khan! >

No chance Greece will be able to pay Turkey off for the Trojan War >

Egypt should pay reparations to Syria for the battle of Megiddo 1500 BC. >

Homo Sapiens should pay reparations for the Neanderthal genocide in 40,000 BC. >


Neanderthals

The Welsh aren't getting a dime from me >

Germany lost like all of Prussia and any other reparations went through the political system of the USSR.   
They're barking up the wrong tree... >

German american, my paternal grandfather's farm is now in poland, and my maternal grandfather died from working in a french coal mine for reparations. >

RIP. Another fellow German American, family history and lineage is around what was Konigsberg. That ended after WW2 >

Poland estimates its World War Two losses caused by Germany at 6.2 trillion zlotys ($1.4 trillion) and has demanded reparations, but Berlin has repeatedly said all financial claims related to the war have been settled.
A bit less than one-third of Germany's GDP and stupid like making the present generation of Germans pay for their grand/great-grand fathers fought wars. It means they are doing this for nearby elections. >

I mean, Warsaw has also repeatedly said all financial claims related to the war have been settled. >

Probably the elections are near >

Well, PiS has problems getting money from the EU because of their disliking of democracy.