>

Desperate times call for desperate lies.
This is Russia… the “widows’ group” is not an independent collection of normal people, like you would expect in the west. It was started just two months ago. They are just another soldier in the information war, preparing the population for martial law. >

This, along with Solovyov's recent comments, is just the opening in a PR campaign to get the Russian populace into a place where they can accept full mobilization and a move to a total war footing. >

Yes... Because misery loves company. >

This feels like a scripted thing so when they do call for the major mobilization it's not a shock >

The relatives of soldiers who criticised the government and war were banned from social media, so, yes, it's just the hardliners left who are allowed to speak freely.
It wouldn't surprise me if this was a plant group to pre-empt criticism from actual groups like it. >

Of course it is.
And it’s irresponsible of the journalists to just toss it out there word for word without context. >

If they provided context then everybody would complain about biased editorial policy.  Press is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. >

Then they should do it right and be damned in their integrity at least. >

Well said. >

So basically another round of mobilization is coming….
But this time the Russian government can officially say “see the people want it!”
PS this is how Russian internal propaganda works… >

Isn't it a wonderful coincidence that the "widows" are calling for a military just when Ukraine's Minister of Defense Reznikov said Russia will start a second wave of mobilization?
Or wait, maybe it's not about widows at all. >

No. It was ‘windows of Russia’. They have killed more Russians than Ukrainian soldiers ever will. >

Vista? >

Either Vista or 8.1, they both claimed plenty of lives >

Fear the BSOD! >

Blue Screen of Defenestration??? >

I guessing this particular group wasn't necessarily organically formed so much as assembled and told exactly what to say. >

Thanks to hypernormalisation, we'll never know for sure.
...but yes, that is exactly what this is. >

I have to say - and this isn't meant to be whataboutism in any way, just an observation - The NYE show reminds me a lot of the big award shows produced in the USA from '02-'06 when the War on Terror was in full swing, jingoism was at its height and dissent was inappropriate. The production values were better, but the desperation was much the same. >

That sounds like a stretch to me. Russia’s entire identity is now based this failure. Everyone is fake asf. They all look dead inside.
To quote a Leonard Cohen song; “everybody’s got this broken feeling, like their father or their dog just died.”
In 2002-2006, most Americans were partying using their home as an ATM machine to take out sub-prime loans to buy fancy cars and whatnot. The only guys that gave a shit were Michael Moore and the Dixie Chicks. >

This was echoed by the soldiers getting deployed. "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war. America is at the mall."
That's the big pitfall of an all-volunteer military. The military becomes a smaller and smaller self-selected professionalized caste of Americans, and the rest of the country barely even notices that a war is going on aside from the occasional embarrassment in the news. >

“I ain’t got no husband no more, so you don’t get one either” >

This reminds me of something I read about the Russian version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?"  The audience would intentionally pick wrong answers when asked.  Russians can't stand their fellows being happy. >

There is a saying in Russia, "Nothing warms you more than the sight of your cold neighbor" >

My father still has trauma from Soviet Union where he has to keep everything financial related a complete secret. He doesn't tell anyone he has a successful small business (not even acquitences)  or that nice car is his and not a rental etc. He assumes someone will ruin his fortunes out jealousy and greed. >

Human psychology. We tend to be our happiest when we've got someone to follow, someone to walk beside, and someone to walk on. The last part is something more progressive societies at least (in theory) try to prevent, but when the government walks on you with cleated shoes, then the easiest way to feel like you've got any control and power in your life at all is to find someone even less fortunate to grind into mud with your heel. In Russia, through all of its incarnations, but especially the Soviet days and modern Russia, the latter's incentivised. You're not going to rise up against your overlords when you're too busy being afraid of, or tormenting your next door neighbour, or even your own family. >

Ya, why not. Create a bigger widows group. Afterall, they're not the ones being sent to battle. Maybe they should be the ones mobilised! Join their husbands. >

Are they just running some weird/morbid pyramid scheme? >

Not 100% sure but I thought the widows got a payout? >

I think it depends if the remains are found, are intact and identifiable, and if the government can be arsed. Even then, I think the payout is probably something like a dishwasher and a bag of Brazil nuts. >

A dishwasher?   You are very generous. >

Don't forget, a cloth washes dishes so that counts! >

Lol, the dishwasher is actually an emaciated boy from Irkutsk that you have to feed, clothe and care for until adulthood, at which time he will be conscripted and deployed to the front. It's a double whammy for the government. >

*A group of actresses >

Sure seemed that way to me. >

That's how I'd do it if I were a raging maniac. >

Or a cunning ex KGB agent trying to gaslight a country. >

There is no widows group. it’s all bullshit to make It seem like Russians support putins war. It’s the equivalent of fake reviews on Amazon. Don’t buy it >

This is orchestrated PR. They're having the group that one would think would be the most opposed to mobilization be the most vocally supportive, so eventually they can throw their hands up and say, "Well... if it's what the people want..." >

This isn't necessarily a group of widows, it's "A little known patriotic group which supports the widows of Russian soldiers," according to the article. >

Propaganda by paid actors on behalf of Putin. >

"The coming war will require completely different resources: human, psychological, economic," she told Reuters. "Protecting the Motherland is a duty."
Here:s a thought, how about don't start unprovoked wars with peaceful neighboring countries. Seems like that's the best way to protect your "mother land" >

And Russia's like, "AHHHH MOTHERLAND!" >

"'Bout that time, eh chaps?"
... 
"Right-o." >

But, I am le tired >

Well then take a nap. >

Then fire ze missiles? >

A Russian widow finds an old lamp and a genie comes out. “I’ll grant you any wish, but whatever you get your neighbor gets double”. The Russian widow wishes “poke out one of my eyes”. >

Widows want to make more widows? >

Like someone else said, 

Misery needs company >

You get a widow!
You get a widow!
You get a widow! >

Similar to the Russian Oligarch retirement program.
You get a window!
You get a window!
Everyone gets a window! >


Invoking Soviet leader Josef Stalin, the group said that now was the time for tough measures to defend against the evil forces coalescing around Russia's borders.
"Today, all the world's evil has united against Russia - the entire Western world has turned against us," the group said. "It's either us or them, there is no other choice." >

Sounds like total brainwashing. No one would be against Russia if Russia would stop invading other countries. No one has threatened Russia's borders. >

I know…just a few years back things were normalized enough to film the amazing race there. Now it’s as closed, or worse as during the days of the iron curtain. Putin is the worst thing that has happened to modern Russia by far. >

You are oversimplifying things in a staggering way. To suggest that this is all Putin is ridiculous. Russia has been this way before Putin, and it will not change after Putin. A large majority of Russians are wired this way. Conversations with captured conscripts make that very clear. >

Yeah, I'm not really going into the many things that lead to this sort of collective mania. I don't think that ONLY Putin is the cause. But he's one significant PART of the cause.
Russia has never had a period of relative normalcy, as far as I know. It went from the Czars to the Soviets to Oligarchs... It's amazing that it's survived as long as it has, frankly. >

I imagine Putin and Lavrov dressed up as babushkas speaking to RT >

Ukraine called this last week. 
Now we’re seeing Russia use the Makiivka barracks strike and support from  a Putin aligned “widow’s group” as grounds for full mobilization.
I hope some of those weapon packages start making it to Ukraine soon because Putin is really about to start feeding the meat grinder. >

Agreed. As well as Ukraine has done, I get the feeling Russia has one more big throw in them and they're gearing up for it this Spring/Summer. If Ukraine can weather that then I think they'll be in the clear, but they're going to need a lot more Western weapons to do it. >

This is the fakest group to ever not exist. >

Siding with Putin at this stage of war means the group is either bribed, threatened, or brainwashed into supporting the war. >

Brainwashed is the most likely cause. Anyone in Russia who still supports Putin is akin to people in the US who want Trump as president in 2024. >

With one major difference. In the US you can choose to get your info from various outlets, in Russia its just one voice. 
Imagine if Trump and FOX was all you heard from birth. >

Some people essentially chose the reality in your last sentence, which is worse. >

Agreed >

Of course. They don't want their Husbands to have died for nothing, which is what will happen in the end. It all could be Propaganda. >

Of course its propaganda. >

New model of Lada will be released with new mobilization,  “Lada-widow”.   Same model as before, but with urn holder between the front seats for husband. >

My husband is dead. Kill more husbands. 
What a F’d up country. >

Yeah thats how I interpreted the headline too. Smh. >

Putin, "Well, I was going to negotiate a pullout, but if you ladies really want this we'll do it for you." >

~~Soldiers' Widows Group~~ Putin Calls on Putin to Order Major Mobilization for Ukraine War
Fixed the article headline for you. >

Yup. This! >

At what point does adding more soldiers do more harm than good for their efforts? Haven't they already gone through their "elite" forces, their standard forces, and a whole lot of incompetent conscripts? What's left for them to mobilize that would be in any way useful? >

Girl, nobody wants your motherland. We dont even understand why You want your motherland. >

Sure they do.
What's Russian for "astroturf"? >

cosmosod >

This is so convenient for Putin that I can say with ~~100%~~, ~~200%~~, no, 300% certainly that this is absolutely an organic event, and not at all astroturfed. >

They ask who will protect them. They are not being attacked. >

Classic psychopath/bully move. >

Russia has gone full retardation. >

"My child died.. Why dont you send more children to die?" >

“I lost my husband now I declare others must lose theirs.” Real classy >

My husband died in your war, this makes me angry and sad, you should kill a lot more husbands in your war, classic Russian logic >

Soldiers' Widows Group, in a totally spontaneous and unscripted move, calls for Putin to do exactly what Putin needed the excuse to do and that western intelligence agencies had been saying he was already preparing for.
Pretty sweet astroturfing, poots. >

Leaders of a nation, using their citizens as pawns, fighting over man-made imaginary lines. What senselessness. >

There is no doubt in my mind that they were ordered to say that. This essentially confirms the rumors that mobilisation is coming. >

A little known pro War group in Russia suddenly popped on the scene to say “We mothers of Russia need more body bags” has to be legit >

Widows Group: “We need more widows, it’s time for some aggressive expansion” >

Interesting way to grow your organization... >

Their husbands are dead, so what fucks do they give if 100K other husbands die now, as long as they get revenge for their dead husbands. Selfish cunts, every one of them. >

I trust this article as much as I trust the idea that Russia's windows have major security flaws that make people keep falling out of them accidentally. >

They're just trying to grow their organisation >

Our men died, so they should too! .... really weird logic >

If you’re gonna call for people to be sent to war, it should be yourselves. 
Pretty easy to ask for mass mobilization knowing you’re safe at home getting piss drunk while some other person gets slaughtered in the freezing cold. >

Wow. Real subtle, Vlad. >

It's a conspiracy between all the Russian women to get rid of all the drunk wife beaters in Russia and they finally realized a way to finally get rid of them sending them to the meat grinder >

Translation: 
A russian propaganda group disguised as widows declares that widows of russian soldiers ask for general mobilization >

“Hello, I am the real person not a bot widow leader of all the widows. We achieve dead sons in 1 easy steps and so can you! We call on Putin to mobilize more!! Everyone feels this way…it is wonderful” >

“You sent a bunch of our husbands off to die!  We are mad. Please send the remaining husbands to die!” >

“I’m sad that my husband/son has died, let’s have more wives/mothers feel this way.” >

“If i don’t get to have a living husband then nobody in Russia does” >

"Our membership projections have us stagnating" >

If we're gonna be widows we want other women to be widows too! >

That's most russian thing ever - everyone must suffer as I do. >

Miserable bitches >

The way its going currently,  widows will be all thats left >

Ahh the Widows Group is looking to up their recruiting i see >

Somehow, I don’t think these widows thought their plan all the way through… >

Putin is at fault for the loss of your loved ones...wake the fuck up >

There is a typo, it is not widows, it is windows, I heard they are killing it recently in Russia. >

So this widows group wants more members? >

"My husband is dead, therefore so should everyone else's" >

So there can be more widows for their club…. >

So it's a membership drive? Need more widows! >

Sunk cost fallacy. >

Nothing war widows love more than MORE WAR >

All this pussyfooting around a World War is getting annoying. Let’s take the gloves off and find out which country has the most to lose or lost. >

They must need more members for their widow group? Fucking sick >

How about GET THE FUCK OUT OF UKRAINE? >

Typical Russian culture … if my goat died so should the neighbor’s … no pun intended. Just a miserable culture with a sick twisted view of life. >

Brilliant, war widows asking Putin for more war widows >

He looks like lord farquaad. >

Soldiers’ widow group wants more members. >

So they are calling for more dead Russians? >

Their spokesperson, one Mrs. Pladimir Vutin. >

Sure they do >

Da fuq? They're all completely mental. >

"So you know how our husbands died because of this bullshit war you started with our sister county Ukraine? Now we want you to avenge their death, for your own mistake"... >

And that's how we know it's a front for Russian recruiters. >

Why? Do they need more members >

This is sick… >

This the same group of “widows” that were carrying fake babies in that photo op? >

Dear widows, we've left. People you see around are either elderly or secret service agents who are guarding our glorious leader sleep and so cannot be called up. But don't despair, there's always hope. You can be drafted! >

If we lost our husbands, you should too. >

So...... membership drive ? >

It's almost like everything Russia and Russians do is back asswards lol. Why in the world would you want others to suffer what you are going through?? >

Maybe they should mobilize to honor their deceased husbands? >

"We demand more Husbands die so ours won't be alone in hell." >

My guess is that they want their husbands deaths to mean something and not end up as a massive waste of human life.  Just a guess >

Easier than a divorce and receive a pension?  Why they are willing to sacrifice their sons is unfathomable. >

We need more members! >

Maybe the soldiers shouldn’t have been chilling next to hundreds of tons of explosive ordnance >

We lost our husbands so others need to loose them too.
Russian mentality at it's finest. >

I wonder if they were influenced by anyone. >

I'm starting to think they really hate their men. >

Sooooo… they want to recruit more widows? >

Normal day in Russia >

Misery likes company >

This reads like a secret plan by Russian wives to get their abusive husbands killed in war. >

Sign them up putler >

Start with the widows as there’s more of them, and they’re already angry. >

The widows should volunteer for frontline duty if they are so eager. >

Easy to sAy after your husbands are already dead. Lets go ahead and throw the rest of our men into the nonsensical meat grinder. >

'We totally haven't been threatened into saying this!' >

Absolute, complete bullshit, trying to blame his stupid moves on the widows, with a fake endorsement.  
Shame on you, Putin, and your weak, frail, ego. >

We’re mad our husbands are dead! Make everyone else’s husbands dead too!!! >

Must be running out of members >

If I lose my husband, you all must lose yours too. 
However, this sounds more like state sponsored propaganda to drum up support. >

So the widows want to create more widows?  That's fucked. >

Sure, full mobilization. But those widows must volunteer their services >

Your sons died for nothing. Get over it. >

Of course they put that statement out.  Otherwise, the head of the widows group will accidently fall out of the window of a tall building. >

to make more widows. >

The mothers that sent their boys first are likely to be the most fanatical >

That's one way to get more people in your club. >

Soldiers’ widows group looking to push their numbers way up, for some reason. >

Weird way to recruit new members, but ok. >

Ukraine already called this. They're using the widowed as cover. Actual Russian widows absolutely do not want this.
This is blatant Russian Propaganda. >

Sure they did… they all want more sons lost to this greedy SOB… >

Instead of working for peace, these widows want to spread the suffering to others.  What losers… >

"Our husbands are dead, and yours should be too!" >

The group must be recruiting >

they got tired of their old lada so they want a new one >

They want more women to join their ranks? That is pretty selfish. >

They are doing this to save their pensions. >

The windows can go themselves, if they’re so keen for revenge. HIMARS doesn’t discriminate between male and female vatniks >

..... at gunpoint? >

Sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a thing. >

Russia is a cruel and ugly nation. >

FSB doing their thing again to make the next mobilization seem less silly? >

Sure because why not get everyone else’s husbands killed too right? Selfish pricks >

Just as they were ordered to do. >

"...to protect the motherland." 
That's like treapassing into your neighbors house and calling up your friends for added self defence. These people are off their rockers. >

Sending more people into a human meat grinder. Genius >

This is like people doubling down on crypto and meme stocks, yikes >

Are they getting paid? >

Misery wants company? >

Disappointed there was no picture included with certain blonde "widow" in the group calling for this mobilization. >

It’s funny that this group complains they need to defend the motherland when the motherland invaded a much smaller and weaker neighboring country.  A country that they had a nonaggression treaty with and that pose them no danger.  And that Russian soldiers murdered, raped and kidnapped their way through.  The Russians kidnapped several hundred thousand Ukrainian adults and over 100,000 Ukrainian children taking them to Russia and putting adults in labor camps and children forced into adoption. Russia intentionally bombs schools, hospitals and broke their own cease-fire during civilian evacuations. Seems like they wouldn’t have to defend the motherland if they hadn’t done all that raping, murdering and stealing. >

Widows trying to get a Groupon for burials together >

Lol sure, Vlad. Just die already. >

Is the widows group not big enough?    Membership about to rise... >

That is one way to increase membership in their group >

That's how widows multiply >

“Let’s make more widows!” Like WTF???? >

$1 says that one of these "widows" has been in dozens of other lame PR stunts by Putin since last February. >

Gotta pump those membership numbers... 
I'm sorry. >

"Putin Calls on Putin to Order Major Mobilisation for Ukraine War" >

The Shiny Happy Russian Red Star Mothers Association of the Glorious Federation…yeah we’re all familiar with that bullshit. >

This has the same energy as...
"I had to pay my college loans; why should theirs be forgiven?" >

"Our meetings have gotten stale so we need more members!" - the spokesperson of this widow group. >

Yes, so that way we can have 100,000 more widows.
Fucking idiots. >

"They killed the friends of our sons! We have to make sure our sons die as well!" >

Huh??? They lost someone in a war and decided that the best way forward is to make more of them. That country is unsalvageable. >

I am just wondering why this recent massacre is special and painful to the Russians. It’s not as if this was the first time Russian soldiers are dieing like chickens on the battlefield . >

Here we go. Muscovy propaganda starts setting the precedents for the coming speeches justifying the next round of mobilization and martial law:


Widows group wants revenge


Prigozhin out of cannon fodder


What a waste >

In other words, if you want to get your husbands benefits-and stay out of jail, you endorse this position, of your own free will, of course. This was already planned, so this statement is just playing stupid transparent games. >

They need more widows to support >

...It's like a teachers union, but instead of a degree, you just have to marry any military age man, and then sign them up. Boom, instant pension. Fun fact, Putin's #1 demographic is single/widowed Russian middle age women. >

Lol, who are they going to mobilize?  They were already pulling prisoners just to get bodies.  Are they going to mobilize the whole country?  Haha, good luck with that.  And even if you have people, you don't have equipment or training.  So all you're doing is just getting a bunch of people killed.  And that's assuming, really assuming, people would actually obey and go.  The problem is Putin has already gotten most of the willing to go, plus some non willing.  Now, now they have harsh opponents, and you're not going to get those folks to budge. >



A representative of the widows' group told Reuters that all fit Russian men should be mobilised to defend the Motherland. 


Your motherland isn't under attack


Today, all the world's evil has united against Russia - the entire Western world has turned against us," the group said. "It's either us or them, there is no other choice."


If everyone you meet is an asshole.... >

Presumably they are having a membership drive. >

Hard to be the victims when you're intentionally sending missles into civilian cities. >

Soldiers widows groups calls for more members >

They can't feed or equip the ones they have now. what are they going to do with a full mobilization? More meat for the grinder. >

Jesus Christ the propaganda machine got these people brainwashed. >

Patton was right, we should have finished the job in 1945. >

I, for one, welcome many tens of thousands more Russian widows. >

Are these the same widows that Putin trots out to say the love sacrifice for the motherland? Maybe sometime check to see if they were ever married >

If they are so bent on war, why are they not volunteering. Chickenhawks or pure propaganda. >

"My husband died, so your husband needs to die too." >

They’re just having their own version of a membership drive. >

Sincerely praying for this war to stop. Enough of these nonsense >

Seems like a scam to raise more dues for the Widow’s Association. >

Membership drive? >

“I am aspiring to join this group! Please send MY husband!” >

They want to add to their ranks by the hundreds of thousands...  
Jeez, russians are a different level of brainwashed. >

Call me a cynic but special interest groups always like when their pet cause gets worse. Money and attention. >

"My guy is dead, and so should be yours!" >

I care as much for Russian widows as I do for the Russian husbands that left them that way. >

What they gona have grannys running in with stones? >

“Let there be more widows” Sounds like they came up with this ALL on their own >

Not surprising. These unempoyed drunk men cause a lot of problems. Better to wear black, get your survivors benefits, and display your "hero"'s war medal on the mantle. >

Headline: silly person from silly nation says something silly under emotional stress (Ed: and/or duress). 
Byline: world gives side eyes. >

I see the money "donated" to the widows for lost family members is bearing fruit.... >

I read Windows group calls for mobilization. Makes sense. If you do not like war you join the windows group. Or fall down the stairs. >

I guess the widows group wants to grow their membership? >

They want more widows in their group >

Sunk cost fallacy is a serial killer >

"Soldiers widows group calls on Putin to add more widows to their group" >

Sad; what they're basically saying to other Russians is that, we've lost members of our family now you have to lose some of yours? >

Welp, gonna be a lot more widows for no real strategic gains. Ukraine has a million-member army that is highly experienced, motivated and well supplied. Russia going full mobilization just gives the US an excuse to give tanks, F16s, etc.
We have a TON of spare M1 Abrams tanks due to the Marine Corps not using them anymore. The Ukrainians will have no trouble operating/maintaining them, as they already operate Turbine powered T80s. We also have a shit ton of M2 Bradleys, many of which scored tank kills on their own in desert storm. The 25mm bushmaster chain gun is plenty potent if it hits a vulnerable spot on a tank. >

What a strange recruitment drive for your organisation >

$100 says the leader of this group is Putin in a wig. >

Fuck Putin >

It's not fair that we are widows, I propose we make all married women widows to make it fair! >

To create even more soldiers’ widows >

That’s a pretty fucked up way of trying to get new members for their group. >

Russia's dating apps about to get a huge increase in available women. >

“Our husbands died so that yours may die too!” >

I can see Putin now sat behind his desk, Lavrov whispers quietly into his ear, 'Get a bunch of old ladies to order it for you, No one will blame you'.
Putin nods and smiles. 
What a brave man this Putin fellow turned out to be. >


In Soviet Russian Federation, widow association campaigns for more widows, not less. >

The wives should all enlist, they’re so eager to serve and all. >

I must admit, this is a creative way for the Widow’s group to increase their membership.