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Censure. Arrest. Trial. Removal. Prison.
All that needs to happen.
"Just a month before his 20th birthday, Mr. Santos entered a small clothing store in the Brazilian city of Niterói outside Rio de Janeiro. He spent nearly $700 using a stolen checkbook and a false name, court records show.
Mr. Santos admitted the fraud to the shop owner in August 2009, writing on Orkut, a popular social media website in Brazil, “I know I screwed up, but I want to pay.” In 2010, he and his mother told the police that he had stolen the checkbook of a man his mother used to work for, and used it to make fraudulent purchases."
So here we are, 13 years later. Wanting to pay is not the same as actually paying it seems. >

Orkut… fuck that’s a blast from the past. It was supposed to be the Friendster killer from Google. I remember logging in a few years after the hype died down and like 90% of the posts were in Portuguese. >

It's funny how many of Google's "killer apps" died inglorious deaths. >

And now people won't sign up to any of their new services, because they will shut it down anyway, turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy >

What services? Everything they have is integrated with their google account. Most people use a Google account, they don't have to sign up for anything. >

Not OP but Google has tons of apps and services.  Google has a history of killing services, some that people loved.  Most people stick to Gmail, meet, calendar, chrome, photos.  Even photos was morphed from pixel. Google Plus wasn't even terrible, but they made it invite only for way too long and just made it a cleaner looking FB with a few extra features. >

I get that, but what I mean is that there is no conscious act of signing up. People use their stuff they already have and they catch up stuff around it by extension.
Google docs for example has a big user base because it is an extension for their services that was integrated in Gmail and Drive. People didn't sign up for it, they just started using on opportunity.
Same way there is no conscious act of signing up, there is no conscious act of refraining from it. People will use their services or not based on their utility to them and opportunity. And Google will support them or kill them based on their popularity.
In the particular case of Orkut or Plus, is as same as Chat or original Hangouts, it requires an active user base for people to get using it, so they lack that igniting spark. Same reason why other social media sites have difficulty getting from the ground and die fast. >

People make decisions like buying Google Stadia, or build a Chrome App, or having a legacy free G Suite Account (I got bitten by this one, but at least I already had moved anything important out of Google) or invest on Google Streams (which confusingly was a device and service for doctors), or... and unless it's something they don't care about they always get screwed in the end. >


He spent nearly $700 using a stolen checkbook and a false name

Setting the pattern for later successes. Who's the money behind this fellow anyway? >


"Andrew Intrater, money manager to Russian Viktor Vekselberg, gave $56,100 to committees tied to Rep.-elect George Devolder-Santos, who called Ukraine “totalitarian.”

-Daily Beast >

Ironic that he then claims to be descendant of Ukrainian jews >

...as a mark, not a mastermind. He's a shameless weasel but the whole plan doesn't seem well thought out. He seems to compulsively lie, rather than scheme and create a proper backstory. >

To be fair, this play worked with Trump. >

I think we're at the point now where a Republican politician can literally kill children on live TV and supporters would still scratch their chins and wonder if it was a Democratic ploy of some sort. >

AnTiFaAAa!!!!! >

Are we sure this guy even exists? It really feels like Sacha Baron Cohen is going to announce that Santos is one of his characters and that he didn't think a completely fabricated person would actually win the election. >

I mean the picture they keep using looks like someone spray tanned a wax sculpture of Buddy Holly someone made just a tad too chubby in the face… >

Not vetting this guy while pushing dozens of redundant crime and inflation fluff pieces is an indictment on US media during this midterms. >

And it still didn’t work, for the most part! No red wave >

There's the potential for a member of Congress to be tried in absentia and convicted in Brazil while being indicted in the US.  
So there's that.  
 Sigh.

Goddamn Nat-Cs. >

Is there no legal recourse that the public has besides voting him out?
Feels weird that you can just lie about your entire life and resume and if you get elected nothing can be done. >

The house can vote to expel a member. It requires 2/3 majority, and it's only happened 5 times in the nation's history.
He really never should have made it this far. It's really upsetting to me that his opponents didn't uncover any of these obvious lies early in his run. These are the kinds of lies that can be identified with a $50 background check. Whoever he beat sucks at politics. >

As though republican voters care about ethics. >

I'm fairly sure quite a lot of Republican voters do care about ethics. Neither the Republican nor the Democrat-voting populace are a monolithic block. Right now, unfortunately, a vote for an independent candidate (and it is the same over here in the U.K.) is a wasted vote given the two party system, so many voters who hold extremely moderate views on both "sides" of the increasingly right centre-point hold their nose and vote along traditional lines. 
The sooner we stop categorizing people by the party they vote for and start seeing  them as individuals, the better.
Having said that, a) Right now the actions of the Republican party - and our equivalent here - do seem to be devoid of any of the qualities I find attractive in a political party, and b) this Santos guy certainly seems like a wrong'un. >

If the party you vote for is pro-puppy murder, it doesn't matter what your stance on puppy murder is. If you vote for them, they get elected in part because of your vote, and then push an agenda that includes puppy murder, that puppy blood is on your hands.
As the old German saying goes:

You don't get to vote for Hitler because he made the trains run on time. >

I don't disagree with you but if, in your eyes, the other party is pro puppy torture and murder, then maybe you view "mere" murder as the lesser of the two evils, hence the "hold their nose" caveat.
And there's the rub, the sheer amount of misinformation being peddled around politics makes discerning the truth almost a full time job.
Don't get me wrong, my politics - at least by American standards - are far left (or bottom left if you want to use the political compass), but I refuse to condemn outright half of a country purely based on which party they vote for.
Edit, removed tautology. >

Ignorance is no excuse. Not in this day and age especially.
And it's not like these politicians are hiding who they are (for the most part...obviously this specific guy WAS hiding who he was). They are proudly anti-women, racial minority, and LGBTQ+. They will tel you right to your face that those groups don't deserve the same rights as cis het Christian white men.
So I have zero issue condemning people for voting for mini-Hitlers. Zero. These people made their hateful, bigoted bed. They must lie in it. >

IDK He highkey reminds me of Jared Fogle from Subway. >

To be fair, he's bad but he's not that bad.
We hope. >

Yeah we can’t compare fraud to child porn and raping kids. Some people deserve to get kicked out of office. Some people deserve to get kicked in the nuts repeatedly.
And of course, some deserve both. >

Santos is a pathological liar, perfect pro-Kremlin MAGA member, after all we all know truth is their sworn enemy. >

I’ve known several pathological liars like Santos throughout the years. All have eventually crashed and burned after brief  successes. I even called one of them out on it and he acted shocked, it was really fascinating, these people don’t perceive lies the same as everyone else. >


these people don’t perceive lies the same as everyone else.

"how life works is that literally everybody says whatever they want in order to grift each other" -- what I imagine their worldview is like >

Another nail in his political coffin. >

The GOP margin is razor-thin. Part of me thinks this dude could be literally the reincarnation of Pol Pot and McCarthy would still keep him around for his vote. >

He doesn't have the votes last I checked today. He'll sell his children's souls for power, I'd guess. Plus, once seated, it's 2/3rds majority to remove. Even if we(dems) had the House, we couldn't reach those numbers without extreme gerrymandering >

I would think the Democrats would be happy to prop up McCarthy (it only takes a few of their votes) for the comedy value of watching the GOP reps who want him gone fuming.  can you imagine MTG or Bobert if they find they can't get rid of him on a whim, that he can tell them to go somewhere and do something?
plus like those MAGAnuts, the Dems could hold that support like Lucy with a football to make him limit the stupidity of the worst of GOP. >

MTG is pro-McCarthy. Probably a reason why Democrats won’t touch him with a ten-foot pole, even for schadenfreude >

Seeing as they both had affairs with fellow members I’m convinced that they have been…intimate with one another. They’re each other’s type at least >

#LockHimUp >

This guy is a sociopath >

But he wants to pay! >

Even Fox News was throwing this guy under the bus. His goose is cooked >

Where was everybody during the campaign? >

Focused on a fictitious crime wave cooked up by the GOP to scare their base. Or talking non-stop about Cuomo to make the Dems apathetic to voting.
And it worked, since the angry fucking morons came out to vote (mad about nonsense or still just pissed Cuomo made them follow Covid guidelines before his resignation) while most others stayed home. Assured it was a Dem state with sure victory. But everywhere past NYC, it cost them several easy House wins, and thus gave Republicans a slim majority. >

Which is why Chuck Schumer campaigns round the clock, so that he always wins with comfortable margins. >

They pretty much gave up on campaigning in all the redneck districts. >

If you're in the district a couple of groups are organizing actions, there's been a press conference and there's going to be a rally this week, here's a petition to get you started. >

Hmmm, any of the rest of the MAGAts ever committed fraud in Brazil? >

Argentina more likely. >

THIS IS WHY WE VET PEOPLE. Now we have a guy who’s in limbo about to be confirmed to a national leadership position being legally investigated by a foreign power. We could’ve not had thi headache had ANYONE asked him about any of his claims. What the fuck. >

I suppose people thought who would fake being a gay jewish republican? >

Shapiro? >

The GOP will keep him, the vote is more important than party integrity. >

He is the ultimate republican. >

Brazilian here. Who is this guy and why is this news? >

He was recently elected to the US House of Representatives and lied about pretty much everything you can lie about on a résumé to get the job: education, former employment, nationality, family history, ethnicity, criminal history, heritage, etc >

I apologize for asking under your comment, but does anyone know if this happened while he was traveling in Brazil? >

I'm still shocked checkbooks were involved. Even back in 2008 they were already rare in Brazil. >

And what kind of store even takes them? 
I usually see checkbooks being used to pay high value transactions from contracts — only when people know each other and know they’ll have funds to compensate it.
To think of a store randomly accepting a checkbook from a random customer and with that low value in 2008 is so weird wtf. >

I mean, the value itself was not low for Brazilian standards, but I find it surprising a store would accept a cheque without matching ID or doing a SERASA call or something. >

Santos is clearly a naturally glib con-man. He probably persuaded them to accept a check against store policy. >

Makes sense. The appeal of being a foreigner (well, pretending to be one, seeing is he is a double national) probably helps. >

Probably the best thing that could happen to him.   
If foreign jurisdictions start arresting Members of Congress for crimes they committed there, well, we just can't have that.
Matt Gaetz will be on his side. >

Con man. Carpetbagger. Serial liar. Fantasist. How low does a person have to go before the GOP fire them? This is immoral >

Man has lived his entire adult life as a scammer. >

I don’t how other feel about it, but I don’t like a criminal in congress >

If we enforced the no criminal rule, there would be no more Republican elected officials though. >

Is this guy just the physical embodiment of fraud? >

For once, we’ll have a politician in office who actually might have been the most qualified with years of experience as a con man already. /s
Seriously, why do we let this nation continually be run by the most unqualified people possible? >

That's a lot of authorities! >

Lol I was waiting for someone to bring that up!! >

Extradite his ass >

He was born in NYC. Brazilian parents, but American by birth. >

Committing a crime in a foreign country can still get you extradited - if Brazil has an extradition treaty with the USA. >

He must have a dual citizenship so I really don't know what could happen to him. But realistically speaking I don't think he would be extradited.
A recent example of extradition that won't be upheld: Brazil and Italy signed an extradition treaty in 1931 yet former soccer player Robinho, who was sentenced to 9 years in Italy for rape, won't be handed out to Italy. By logic, I'd think GS wouldn't be "deported" to Brazil. >

Actually, those cases are not comparable. Robinho won't be extradited because by law Brazil does not extradite its own nationals to other countries.
The US, however, doesn't have this restriction, and an US national could theoretically be extradited. However, I don't think Brazilian prosecutors will push for it, because it's a relatively small case. >

Let’s see him embellish his way outta this one! >

I love his explanation for his career embellishment - "Well what I meant was actually I worked for company X who did work for Citigroup and Goldman Sachs, so I sort of did work for them..."
The guy worked at a call center, where his specialty was being able to speak to customers who preferred to speak Brazilian. >


speak Brazilian

Contrary to the locals who preferred to speak American. >

And not to be confused with the callers ringing from Argentina and wanting to speak Argentinian. >

Another republican rising star. >

The real issue is that the population is so stupid that they would vote for somebody like this, but then again they have in the past >

The fact that Hershal Walker got so damn close makes my stomach turn. He’s long been known to be a pathological liar. Add in too many hits to the head during his NFL career and he’s a crazy bag of problems. 
Also, fuck the NFL for not taking care of and doing right by their older players. >

Good. A speedy extradition to Brazil is in order. Preferably starting tomorrow. No, make it right now. >

What, over $700 and failing to appear for court summons? >

Stolen checkbook and fake name.. >

Ok, that’s hardly the case commonly triggering international extradition. >

Maybe but it’s nice to imagine >

He simply padded his life story with alternative facts. Completely trustworthy guy this one >

If I lied on my resume and my employer found out, I would no longer have a job. How does this schmuck still have his job? No bar to low for entry it seems >

A true example of the alt-right way of life! It's not surprising how the Maga people received him with open arms. >

If you’re going to change everything about yourself, commit to it and change your name. >

His money appears to have come from a pyramid scheme. Should hit the MSM shortly. >

Santos just gets better by the day. >

This story's plot twists certainly go wilder by the day. >

Wow.. this just got real. Will the Brazilians request he be extradited? Hmmm… >

Leave it to Republican voters to elect only the best. >

Is he even an US citizen? >

He’s a U-ish citizen. >

U-ish funny. :-) >

Awesome.  Extradite this d-bag. >

Does the US have an extradition treaty with Brazil? >

Yeah but the US would never agree to an extradition of a sitting US member of congress over $700 of fraud >

You’re right. JFC, criminality seems to work out well if you’re Republican. >

Conservatism is like a union, but for people who refuse to admit they're psychopaths. The only sin in conservatism is not winning (which is why Fox and several republicans turned on Trump). >

I’ve been up too late I read this as
“Brazilian Authorities cast ‘revive fraud’ against George Santos.”
roll for conviction aaaand… >

What is with republicans and doing the exact opposite of keeping a low profile after a crime? 
Oh wait…. Because it works >

The GOP will keep him for a house vote, then send him to face justice. Gotta get that vote first though. >

Hopefully he'll be extradited to Brazil and we will never hear from him again...Ever... >

At this point, has anything about George Santos been confirmed to be true? >

It's confirmed he is a pathological liar. >

Curious George >

Wow I just read about this guy on wikipedia, and he seems incapable to tell the truth. He needs psychological help. >

This guy is a congressman now? Are republicans sending their best? >

A republican rising star along with Boebert, Gaetz, tralierparok Greene, Tate, Fuentes.... >

A few more criminal cases like this and he could be the next GOP presidential candidate. >

The comments within this thread are the reason I enjoy Reddit so much. I’m proud of yins >

What was this guy’s end game? Was he just expecting to waltz into Congress and everyone be none the wiser about his lying and fraud? >

Quite simply we can't trust somebody like this with authority over other people's lives. One good thing coming out of this is it's exposing that we need mechanisms to oust politicians by public will. >

r/suddenlycaralho que caloteiro é esse que nunca ouvi falar? >

Esse cara >

Mano leitura interessante. O homem mentiu a vida inteira e mesmo assim conseguiu enganar toda a gente. Até que foi finalmente apanhado >

Putting the ‘con’ in conservative. >

Tomorrow's going to be a shitshow. I think I'll tune into C-SPAN. >

I am brazillian. should i know who that guy is ? >

Nobody knows who he is. He's the Brazilian George Costanza. >

Whoa. Whoa. 
The worst thing Costanza ever did was bootleg some movies and break the good samaritan law... >

What about his Human Fund gifting scam. >

Touche... >

And that 🐀 weasel Kevin McCarthy is gonna swear him into the House of Representatives today. Apparently, if you aren't under active criminal investigation, you don't qualify to be a repugnican politician. >

This guy is such a corrupt, lying shitheel he could easily be the new poster child for the GOP. >

Republican standards on full display.  Lying sacks of shit, grifters and fraudsters. >

He'll fit right in as a Congressman. >

extradite this fucking weasel >

John Spano energy. Just needs to buy the isles next with no money. >

Hope he gets a good celly >

The trouble with politics is people. Take people out, run on AI, and have people vote on issues, like the California propositions.
^(I know, ChatGbt and all but isn't Mr Santos as fake as an AI generated writing?) >

GOP has a 4 seat majority right? >

That’s interesting. I’m Brazilian and idk about this >

Dude been on that fraud around the world >

What this clown has managed to pull off is  miraculous in today's age of information access. 
I shudder to wonder what the hell everyone else is getting away with because basic background checks aren't being conducted >

Wow why am I not shocked about this...I'm numb! He has been elected as a lawmaker! Yeah numb! >

Well, that bodes well. >

Nice. Fuck this dude.
I mean, who doesn't expect a politician to lie, but these are like, REAL lies, not just false promises. >

Extradite him today, or charge him as a fugitive from justice. >

Just a pure grifter it seems.