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I agree, if a high-school class requires hours and hours of homework a night, they need an overhaul of their curriculum or systems of teaching. Work smarter, not harder. >

Exactly. I especially hate it when you haven’t had a big assignment in a while and a break is just about to come and the teacher assigns a massive project over the break. They’ll be able to hang out and enjoy their time off while you’re working your butt off to get that huge project in before the due date the day you get back. Its infuriating about the amount of teachers who plan so poorly and respect your time so little >

Don’t blame teachers too much for it, they don’t choose the curriculum, they often don’t have much choice in things like assignments and work load. >

Sure but they can definitely allocate time to have less homework. They do have some flexibility in their schedule as well, but I think the worst is some teacher’s laziness in grading assignments or updating grades. 
I’ve had assignments that we’d submit at the beginning of the semester and weren’t graded until the end. It’s difficult to know what grade you need to get on the final or how you should plan your final days of school when you have absolutely no idea what your grade is. 
It’s part of their job to grade, and hearing them complain about them having to do so is downright annoying. >

What do you think the purpose of homework is? >

To expand on previous knowledge or study for upcoming exams. If a teacher teaches something and wants you to understand that material a bit better, then assign homework (30 min max). It should never be used to teach itself, only as a way to help teach. >

Are they assigning 4+ hours of homework? Or does it just take you 4+ hours to complete whatever they assign? >

No, they really are assigning that much work. I’m taking as many Honors classes that are available and have consistently been able to keep all As but the amount of time that it takes no only me, but all my friends to complete the work being assigned, especially in English, is insane. >

The only homework that should legally exist are projects and studies you just can't do in school.
In one class we had the project of building model concentration camps.   Oh, it was controversial, but the result is that if someone asked me to help build a real one he would receive an immediate and painful answer to the effect of "no".  I have thought about it and know my answer, so unlike others, I won't be caught off guard if given an evil order from above.
Anyway, we could not really do that at school using our own ideas for materials and such.
I did all my written and reading homework at lunch and on the bus rides to and from school.   I just refused to do it at home.  I missed a few deadlines, but school is the place to study unless there is a hard, provable reason to do it at home...such as absences.
I think I can just barely admit this as unpopular....since homework is still common place.  But many people do disagree with homework. >

I agree, if a high-school class requires hours and hours of homework a night, they need an overhaul of their curriculum or systems of teaching. Work smarter, not harder. >

Exactly. I especially hate it when you haven’t had a big assignment in a while and a break is just about to come and the teacher assigns a massive project over the break. They’ll be able to hang out and enjoy their time off while you’re working your butt off to get that huge project in before the due date the day you get back. Its infuriating about the amount of teachers who plan so poorly and respect your time so little >

Don’t blame teachers too much for it, they don’t choose the curriculum, they often don’t have much choice in things like assignments and work load. >

Sure but they can definitely allocate time to have less homework. They do have some flexibility in their schedule as well, but I think the worst is some teacher’s laziness in grading assignments or updating grades. 
I’ve had assignments that we’d submit at the beginning of the semester and weren’t graded until the end. It’s difficult to know what grade you need to get on the final or how you should plan your final days of school when you have absolutely no idea what your grade is. 
It’s part of their job to grade, and hearing them complain about them having to do so is downright annoying. >

Teachers often complain about the workload put onto their students that they have to teach. Also the lack of funding, time and facilities their given to teach the content. Some teachers need to do better yes, but for the most part teachers are underpaid and make do with what their given. >

in order to use class time efficiently, stuff that does not require the teacher's presence should be homework.
ex discussing a book requires class time.  obviously. you can't discuss a book at home by yourself.
but reading a book-- a prerequisite for discussing it-- can and should be done at home, reserving class time for stuff you need your teacher/classmates for.
same with critiquing an essay.  write it at home, then share and critique them in class. >

of course some of that stuff also can be done in study hall.  just not during class. >

Sure, I agree. However, when it gets to the extent of completely taking away any weekend you would have had, it gets annoying. Homework is necessary, but only about 20-30 minutes total a night max >

r/im14andthisisdeep >

my english teacher only gives us work we didnt finish in class as homework, and other teachers (physics, math etc) give us homework to work on what we learned >

That’s exactly what I’m advocating for. Hours upon hours of extra homework is completely unnecessary and draining >

In my high school, you were expected to study 4+ hours a day at home to succeed.
I think expecting people to put in that much effort is fair if it's their free choice, but since high school is mandatory, and teenagers have a limited say on what school they go to, most of the time it's unfair.
People need to have free time to develop their curiosity as well as rest. >

I wouldn't say it's the failure of the teachers per se, but rather the failure of the education system to provide crucial support to teachers and students alike. Teachers must work with what they have, not with what they would rather have.
You are not the only student in the class. You are not in the only class being taught by that particular teacher. And as someone else mentioned here, good grading takes time. >

The only homework that should legally exist are projects and studies you just can't do in school.
In one class we had the project of building model concentration camps.   Oh, it was controversial, but the result is that if someone asked me to help build a real one he would receive an immediate and painful answer to the effect of "no".  I have thought about it and know my answer, so unlike others, I won't be caught off guard if given an evil order from above.
Anyway, we could not really do that at school using our own ideas for materials and such.
I did all my written and reading homework at lunch and on the bus rides to and from school.   I just refused to do it at home.  I missed a few deadlines, but school is the place to study unless there is a hard, provable reason to do it at home...such as absences.
I think I can just barely admit this as unpopular....since homework is still common place.  But many people do disagree with homework. >

What do you think the purpose of homework is? >

To expand on previous knowledge or study for upcoming exams. If a teacher teaches something and wants you to understand that material a bit better, then assign homework (30 min max). It should never be used to teach itself, only as a way to help teach. >

Are they assigning 4+ hours of homework? Or does it just take you 4+ hours to complete whatever they assign? >

No, they really are assigning that much work. I’m taking as many Honors classes that are available and have consistently been able to keep all As but the amount of time that it takes no only me, but all my friends to complete the work being assigned, especially in English, is insane. >

I'm just curious lmao, what type of homework does your english teacher give you? 
Writing essays or grammar worksheets? 
From my experience and what I hear online, it's usually the sciences and math classes that have a lot of home work because they can assign bunches of practice problems. 
I'm guessing it's harder for English teachers to assign a bunch of work because they can't as easily create time consuming assignments as easily as other subjects can. >

Absolutely agree >

Gee, you could have gotten an assignment or two done in the time it took you to write this drivel. >

I teach college students (so not entirely what you were talking about) but I will say something about the time it takes to grade - good grading, if done well, takes forever. Especially if the student has made mistakes. You have to put yourself into their thought process, try to find out if their mistake was a simple brain-fart or a fundamental problem, and then check to see if that carried through to the the other parts - or if other mistakes were made. And then determine how any new mistakes as well as the previous mistakes affected the future answers.  And then you have to do that for each student.  I used to spend 20 hours a week grading lab reports that took my students 4 hours a week to complete (at least according to their post-semester surveys.) And that's just one course.
And sure, I could just cut down on the assignments or grade easier - but that's a disservice to my students. My goal is to make sure every student gets as much out of my class as humanly possible. I'm not doing that if I simply cut done the critical reinforcement material just because I don't want to grade it. >

I agree it should never be excessive (although it’s not always the teachers fault, if every teach assigns 30 mins of homework it quickly adds up) but in terms of going over things to get them to stick in your head I think it can be really useful. A balance definitely needs to be found and schools need to be adjusted to ensure homework is evenly spaced out and can be done with plenty of free time left >

With this mindset, you’re definitely NOT built to succeed in college.  Practice makes perfect. >

Unpopular Opinion: Homework is for dumb kids who need repetition to drill something into their thick skulls.
If you're a smart kid you don't need to do homework and you don't need to study. Once it's been taught to you, you've learned it, and you can recall what you've learned when it's test time.
Idiots who study right before a test don't actually have the knowledge in their long-term memory, so instead they cheat themselves by storing the information to their short-term memory the night before, regurgitating it onto the test paper, then promptly forgetting it by the next day. >

Teachers at any level only are there to guide you to learn by yourself,  which is the only way to learn. Teaching doesn't really mean what people believe it is. In addition, mastering any ability takes hundreds of hours, and thus Math/Sciences/writing requires a lot of practice. Not wanting to expend that hours in practicing is equivalent to say "I don't want learn that". There is no problem with that, you cannot be force to learn anything, but later in life when you have to earn a living and barely know anything your opportunities will be reduced. >


Not being able to teach the majority of the material in a class period is the fault of the teacher and their laziness or incompetence rather than just not having enough time.

This seems to be more of a complaint about the type of homework assigned rather than the time length of the homework itself. 
Homework is typically understood as practice, application of what you learned, or other projects. And based on the second paragraph of your post, you seem to agree that those are useful. 
But I have very rarely had teachers who outright made you learn extra material as homework, which also didn't get covered in class.
I had teachers who made us learn content as homework, but then spend the class doing problems relating to what we learned and clarifying any questions we had on the content. I think this is also a perfectly reasonable approach because you end up doing the same amount of work, essentially, just having to do practice in school rather than at home. 
And ye, I agree that teachers who can't teach the content without having to assign extra content to learn individually as homework should have their methods examined, I don't think that assigning a lot of practice is grounds for dismissal. Especially if the class is more challenging than a standard level class. 
My opinion is regarding HS classes. >

Depends what they are setting, you can't cram absolutely everything into a couple of hours a week and expect it to stick. Same with anything, you couldn't become proficient on the guitar just having lessons, you need to practice inbetween. Same with maths or English.