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Just make divorce easier. It doesn't need to be so difficult. Where I live we have express divorce online if there are no children or community property. Whatever you go into the marriage with is yours, whatever was accumulated during the marriage is split 50/50
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Think of it this way OP.  It is WAY easier to tangle up earbuds (in the days before airpods), than it is to untangle them. >

You know what? I can't argue with that. 
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I can understand when kids are involved or you're business owner or whatever. But if you're an average citizen with no kids and no real assets (let's face it, the majority of millennial and gen z have next to nothing compared to generations before) >


But if you're an average citizen with no kids and no real assets (let's face it, the majority of millennial and gen z have next to nothing compared to generations before)

Things can be easy, but things get harder when feelings are hurt.  For example, if my wife cheats on me, why should I let her have the dog?  Or why should she get any money from me.  Emotions get in the way of rational thought for dividing property. >

That I can 100% agree with. I understand feelings and emotions gets super wrapped up in the divorce process. I just don't like the idea that people who don't really know each other but love each other getting married easily and then having, potentially, a multi-year long divorce process when it might not have happened if they had a harder time getting married to begin with >


a multi-year long divorce process 

Those long divorces are usually the result of the divorcees fighting each other. They could do it quickly, but they are too wrapped up in going to war with each other. >

Not to mention the fact that court systems can get or be clogged/shut down. My girlfriend's dad just went through an almost 3 year long divorce with gfs ex stepmom, which was caused by her threatening to murder him in his sleep. 
Why? They couldn't get a court date. 
Also, he didn't press charges for some stupid reason and she dragged out the process by refusing to accept anything that wasn't her getting everything. Though that only accounts for like 6 months of mediation and actual hearings. >

Do you want to get married? Yes/No. 
Do you want to get divorced? Yes/No. 
How do you want to split assets, how do you want to split any children, how do you want to split property, how do you want to split liabilities, etc.
One question is much easier to agree than multiple questions. However if the partners are aligned, it's very easy to get divorced. >

Split children horizontally, of course. >

I see that you are a fan of the king Solomon option.
I’m not sure how many modern jurisdictions would be okay with that.
Hence the complications of divorce. >


Split children horizontally

I’m not sure how many modern jurisdictions would be okay with that


Diagonally is the way to go in the modern world. >

Diagonal is certainly easier on the eye. >


you should be made to wait as long as an average divorce takes

I'm going to disagree with you on the timing here.
At worst it should be the same amount of time as the average divorce in which both people want to get divorced.
There's a key difference between marriage and divorce. Marriage requires both people wanting to do it. But it's possible to divorce when only one person wants to divorce. Because of that, it can be inherently more contentious. >

The length of the average divorce is greatly increased by that fact that the divorce is not amicable. Neither party agrees on the nature of the divorce, causing a fight in the courts.
An amicable divorce is typically a much swifter affair.
So, do you want to increase the time for people who agree they want to be married, based on the time of people who don't agree on how to divorce? >

I would say it would be easier for a government to make it just as hard to get married as it would be for a childless couple with no real assets to get divorced to keep it fair >

Traditionally, the government wasn't involved in marriage at all. It was a religious institution. All the government was doing was giving you a certificate saying that they recognized your marriage, and your marriage didn't violate any laws about who could marry who (when we had them). 
Getting married in certain churches is a big pain in the ass. Catholics make you take a whole class before they let you do it. >

Yep. I’m Catholic and a lot of priests will make you do at least a year of marriage prep. Some do more than that. >


Why can people get married so quickly compared to the divorce process?

If depends on where you live. If you are married, but have sperate finances and no large shared assets, and you don't have kids, then an uncontested, no-fault divorce is pretty simple. The reason divorces can be so time consuming is that it is way more difficult to untangle things if you have kids, or a shared house, or shared investments, and so on, which most married people do. It is kind of the point of getting married; to become a team. >

I've been with my SO for 6 years, are you saying I should have to wait another several years after I propose to get married?
Or, idk, why not just simplify the divorce process? Why are divorce rates inherently bad? >

If there was a 2 year period after the law was passed before it came into effect, then everyone would have enough time to know about the law and act accordingly.  Most married people I know knew that the two of them wanted be married for over a year before the wedding even took place.  
I don't agree with OP's main argument but I don't think a waiting period would have to  be a significant inconvenience unless you didn't know about the law. >


Now I know I'm a hypocrite cuz I married my husband after knowing him for 5 months and we've been together 7 years now and it's going great! But I know I'm an anomaly and 99% of people who get married as quickly as I did end in divorce.

The divorce rate for couples getting married that quickly is definitely a lot less than 99%. And even if these couples do have a higher divorce rate than couples who get married later, they'll also have a much lower chance of breaking up than they would if they hadn't gotten married. Even if early marriage reduces marriage stability, it increases relationship stability.
Call me old fashioned, but I think if you're going to strip people of their rights - and taking away the ability of a consenting couple to get married is definitely stripping their rights - you need to have a really good reason. >

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I didn't think of it as stripping rights. More so of "have you been together for at least a year?" Not "you're an adult who can't make your own choices" >

What about someone who is dying but still wants to get married to someone they recently met? Who does that hurt? Why a year, why not two years, why not 6 months?