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Common Germany. We need to finish the trilogy with a twist. This time you save Europe from fascism
new term: tank hesitancy >

Hesitanksy >

Tanksy - like Banksy, but paints only shitty stencils of Trotsky's ugly face. >

Washington and many Western allies say the Leopards - which Germany made in the thousands during the Cold War and exported to its allies - are the only suitable option available in big enough numbers.
A German government source said Berlin would lift its objections if Washington sends its own Abrams tanks. U.S. officials say the Abrams, which runs on powerful turbine engines, uses too much fuel for Kyiv's strained logistics system to keep many of them supplied at the front. >

Also, isn't the US sending Bradley Vehicles? Those things destroyed more T-72s than the Abrams in Desert Storm. Why does it have to be Abrams for Germany? >

It’s called moving the goalposts >

If the US actually does send Abrams, it will either not be enough to satisfy Germany, or they'll be the wrong type of Abrams.  I don't understand what the Germans are thinking here.  Sure, if Nordstream was still online, they'd have a reason to avoid pissing off the Russians, but that's no longer a factor.  
Get your act together, Germany.  You want Russian gas?  Then use those Leopard tanks and go get it! >

US will most likely send the Iraqi variants of Abrams that they sent to Iraq. >

we germans criticize it also. in fact, most parts of the government does so. it's literally only our chancellor blocking it against everyone else. >

I don't even understand how he was elected in the first place with his cum ex and wirecard handling. Especially when Baerbock got ao much shit over a minor mistake in her CV. >


cum ex

I Googled thinking it's a cum-filled sex scandal with his ex-wife or something. Disappointed to learn it's Latin describing shares lol. >

And now you disappointed me too. I, too, thought it would be some saucy little scandal, but nope, just some typical boring and gray German stuff. >

In the 40’s you couldn’t get them to stop sending tanks now you can’t get them to start. >

Quoting Scholtz "we cannot let Ukraine war turn into NATO war". He's still afraid to properly stand against russia, not having enough common sense that not helping Ukraine decisively win WILL spill the war closer to NATO. His goal should be Ukraine's victory, not saving dictator's feelings. >

I can respect the man for wanting peace, but I thought we've already learned the hard way that unless you stand up to a bully you're just enabling them. I mean Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea... Ukraine. Feels awfully similar to the prelude of another big war. 
Bully didn't learn, it's time to slap 'em silly. >

Yeah he's clearly not willing to do the slapping >

I'm surprised Germany is hesitant in sending tanks eastward. >

Progress? >

Germany says it's the United States fault because they haven't sent yet as well Poland because of their comming election. >

Common Germany. We need to finish the trilogy with a twist. This time you save Europe from fascism >

Holy Roman Empire, imperial Germany, nazi germany. I think it’s an entirely new series at this point. >

Aww. Poor Germany. Willing to take economic hits and had to get out of bed with genocidal Russia. Cut them some slack.. not your allies fault you were sucking on Putin's oily teat to the point your economy was reliant. While also relying on NATO members to defend you from the same Russia at that. >

Oh I don't ask for compassion towards my home country. We're well aware that we only get that feigned if we open our bank accounts to massively financial support even the last fringe dustbowl or meth lab with statehood in this world 
It's about long term support for Ukraine and you endanger that, when the mood of the financial strangled population of the biggest European economy and second biggest donor to Ukraine flips towards saving their own asses (economical speaking) first. Far too many view the whole war already as a mere nuisance, as a disruption of business as usual and that is dangerous. Sure, you can say "fuck the Germans", but strategically that's not a good choice >

Fuck the Germans that are blocking tanks from getting to Ukraine.
Before Ukraine gets rebuilt it needs to be able to defend itself and take back it's lands. >

Remember when they laughed about Trump warning on them being hostage in Russian Nordstream. >

Remember that Trump only made that argument to sell US LNG at inflated prices? 
If he would have said: "You should not buy from Russia, find different sources." that would have been fine. 
But you neglect that he tried to sanction NS2 and at the same time bully Germany to exclusively by US LNG. That isn't called a warning, it is called blackmailing. >

his intentions are not important, still true. >

Lol. He literally tried to blackmail Germany multiple times. Yeah. Bad intentions. You can’t behave like an elephant in a porcelain shop on the world stage. 
Remind me: Who held back military aid from Ukraine for personal gain? Tell me more about intentions. >

Why does nobody tell him to shut the fuck up ever?I’m so sick of this dude >

If the German Chancellor would be a Russian mole (I am not saying he is), this would be exactly his modus ooerandi.
This mole Chancellor would never be able to align 100% or even 50% openly. His role would be puting sticks in the wheels inteligently.
This behaviour could be explained inocently (he is making a mistake etc...) and also from a more sinister way also as it is would be a very conceited Russian support at the end of the day. >

This mole Chancellor is one of the biggest suppliers of weapons and financial aid to Ukraine. >

Its obviously just a ruse, the 40 incoming Marder IFV's are also just a psychological trick. Of course everyone in germany is secretly working for russia. /s >

Zelensky can piss up a rope.  I hope they eventually get their asses handed to them.  I'm not pro russian but very anti Ukraine due to Zelensky. >

Yeah what an asshole trying to get weapons to defend his citizens. >

Well, they might have mixed feelings about being fast with tanks again.
edit: typo >

German here, we do send alot of stuff, but i am with ukraine on this even a little its the same old question of could this be the difference it takes if i do this or am i hesiitant and see >

You just can't trust Germany. Wishy washy bellends which wrought havoc in history from time to time >

Which is why Germany is very carefull with their military and weapons shipments, to not cause havoc any more.
As you said, can't trust Germany. So Germany doing nothing would be preferred, right? >

Is there someone who some German wants Ukraine to "just announce an investigation of, no need for actually investigating"? Because of how some politicians think that is a good way to accomplish their personal agenda? >

You know what Scholtz? Russia will probably come for you at some point, and if you don’t help your neighbours, they won’t return the favour once it’s your turn. I swear if Ukraine loses and you’ve done nothing to help, NATO or not we won’t lift a fucking finger to help. >

whose this "we" as if you are the one making the decision or something lmao as if Germany isn't the most powerful economy in europe having the backing of both NATO and the EU >

weakest military power tho >

my brother in christ did you really just call me a bot because of 700 karma, ain't no way we are comparing karma lmao >

new term: tank hesitancy >

Hesitanksy >

Tanksy - like Banksy, but paints only shitty stencils of Trotsky's ugly face. >

Washington and many Western allies say the Leopards - which Germany made in the thousands during the Cold War and exported to its allies - are the only suitable option available in big enough numbers.
A German government source said Berlin would lift its objections if Washington sends its own Abrams tanks. U.S. officials say the Abrams, which runs on powerful turbine engines, uses too much fuel for Kyiv's strained logistics system to keep many of them supplied at the front. >

Also, isn't the US sending Bradley Vehicles? Those things destroyed more T-72s than the Abrams in Desert Storm. Why does it have to be Abrams for Germany? >

It’s called moving the goalposts >

If the US actually does send Abrams, it will either not be enough to satisfy Germany, or they'll be the wrong type of Abrams.  I don't understand what the Germans are thinking here.  Sure, if Nordstream was still online, they'd have a reason to avoid pissing off the Russians, but that's no longer a factor.  
Get your act together, Germany.  You want Russian gas?  Then use those Leopard tanks and go get it! >

US will most likely send the Iraqi variants of Abrams that they sent to Iraq. >

we germans criticize it also. in fact, most parts of the government does so. it's literally only our chancellor blocking it against everyone else. >

You know the alternative, right? >

Genocide of Ukrainian people in occupied areas. Short term "peace deal" until ruzzia feels ready for a new offensive, then they'll grab a new piece of land and repeat the process until they have it all.
That's not "loss of land and a peace deal", it's annihilation. >

Please, tell as about Your objective view. >

In the 40’s you couldn’t get them to stop sending tanks now you can’t get them to start. >

Quoting Scholtz "we cannot let Ukraine war turn into NATO war". He's still afraid to properly stand against russia, not having enough common sense that not helping Ukraine decisively win WILL spill the war closer to NATO. His goal should be Ukraine's victory, not saving dictator's feelings. >

I can respect the man for wanting peace, but I thought we've already learned the hard way that unless you stand up to a bully you're just enabling them. I mean Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea... Ukraine. Feels awfully similar to the prelude of another big war. 
Bully didn't learn, it's time to slap 'em silly. >

Yeah he's clearly not willing to do the slapping >

I'm surprised Germany is hesitant in sending tanks eastward. >

Progress? >

Germany says it's the United States fault because they haven't sent yet as well Poland because of their comming election. >

Aww. Poor Germany. Willing to take economic hits and had to get out of bed with genocidal Russia. Cut them some slack.. not your allies fault you were sucking on Putin's oily teat to the point your economy was reliant. While also relying on NATO members to defend you from the same Russia at that. >

Oh I don't ask for compassion towards my home country. We're well aware that we only get that feigned if we open our bank accounts to massively financial support even the last fringe dustbowl or meth lab with statehood in this world 
It's about long term support for Ukraine and you endanger that, when the mood of the financial strangled population of the biggest European economy and second biggest donor to Ukraine flips towards saving their own asses (economical speaking) first. Far too many view the whole war already as a mere nuisance, as a disruption of business as usual and that is dangerous. Sure, you can say "fuck the Germans", but strategically that's not a good choice >

Fuck the Germans that are blocking tanks from getting to Ukraine.
Before Ukraine gets rebuilt it needs to be able to defend itself and take back it's lands.