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Then you're part of the problem. Toxicity means hurting other at some point. It's just bad.
Toxic players have no reason to throw a game and flame teammates. Most of them are/were being bullied, they're depressive, they have mental issues, etc. 
I used to be a lil toxic younger. Never went to insulting others for no reason, but I've quit and afk'ed in many LoL games. I grew up. If you' over 20 years old and act toxic in game, you really gotta be immature and disconnected from the world to get mad and act toxic over such small things.
Lol 😂 I do miss the old Xbox lobby chats, straight shit talking for hours >

The latest cod release has brought it back in all its glory >

Call of Duty and Halo started off the toxic gamer movement. I found my old 360, I started smiling thinking about all the ungodly names I was called in the lobbies. If only my mom knew how many people they said fucked her. >

When I was 12 a drunk 40 year old told me he'd cut my head off and shit down my neck. Glorious, online gaming was just glorious. >

Lol you can’t recreate these memories >

The MW 2 call of duty lobbies were hilarious ngl. When someone would be using noob tubes or the overpowered duel 1887 shotguns. Good times. >

This is exactly what I thought of. I’m not a big mic user but I’ll toss it on for some COD grind and trash talk >

Trash talking was one thing that I didn't mind. 
But toxic gaming communities have gone way beyond that. 
I've got like 3000 hours on Dota 2 and matchmaking is literally a roll of the dice to see which team has less griefers on their side. 
It's dogshit and a waste of everyone's time. A little shit talk back and forth back in the day raised the stakes of the game but now most of the shit talk is your own team. It's not just that way for Dota either, all MOBAs are the same. >

Shit-talking for a few seconds in between lobbies is okay, but completely tearing down teammates or harassing someone specifically is never a good look. >

It's especially painful in games like Dota where communication is key to winning, games are long, and you get punished if you leave. 
Sometimes its literal BS from minute 1 and it can go on for an hour. >

Trash talk on the other team can be fun but it's usually just so bitter and spiteful that it makes me uncomfortable. Like I dont wanna hear 2 kids yell at each other over a USB mic for an entire match >

Nobody likes actual toxicity
Edit: Other than really shitty people who as this guy says like seeing people rage quit >

Because of the inevitable toxic person in every lobby I just 'mute all' at the beginning of each match. 
Yeah, I could mute that one person in the lobby, but..
1) I don't wanna be faffing about mid-game to mute a specific person
2) The context of other chat is lost when you can't hear part of the 'conversation"
I'd love to have chat on, it would be cool if people could talk about the game or discuss tactics, give callouts etc. But I'm not into hearing kids losing their shit and insulting people and their moms. >

Try Squad. Good comms there usually. >

I played Squad for a bit, maybe it's just my bad luck, but I always ended up with keyboard warriors who acted like it was real life and not just a game. Other than that it was fun, but for fucks sake, I already lived a warzone once or twice, I don't wanna do it in a damn game as well... >

aaaalot of vets play >

I know that, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not real life, and that too many people treat it like it is >

Halo 2 lobbies back in the day were a different breed >

I enjoy trash talking, but only when playing with people I know. Insulting strangers is bad, insulting your homies can be fun. >

insulting the homies is my favorite past time but i’m so nice to strangers lmao >

Lmao “i’m the nicest person you’ll meet until you get on my gaming side” >

Especially squeakers w/ cheap mic or headset >

Toxic gamers enjoy toxicity? Who knew? >

It's part of the reason single player games have made a comeback, so good. Fuck online games. >

I'm so glad campaign style and open world games are making a come back over battle Royale bullshit. >

I find both to be fun. BR’s for adrenaline and competition. Single players for relaxation >

I just played through resident evil 7. That is not a relaxing game. >

So you like having a 10 year old kid (who sounds like Fred) scream through his dollar store mic and blow out your speakers/headphones? OK… >

If you generalize it like that, no, but if you contextualize it to like where the kid is bitching and to the point of absolute feral cries because he keeps getting spawn-killed, then yes. It's like in a game of monopoly where you have three properties in two corners and your friend keeps landing on them. >

schadenfreude
That's the word you're looking for. >

Didn't even know there was a word for this, appreciate it. >

I think this is half of reddit. People just come here and enjoy being insufferable assholes to anyone about anything. >

I think there's a difference between trash talking and toxicity.
trash talking or light taunting to make your competitor lose focus is a little bit of a lost art and can be done in a funny and clever way without toxicity, racism, or bigotry. 
unfortunately these days a lot of people confuse trash talk with being straight up toxic and shouting racial slurs or trying to make your opponents so upset on a personal level that they quit playing. you're not even a gamer if you do that because you're not there to play games at that point, you're just a bully. >

Fr there’s a difference between saying “gg ez” and “KYS N-word” lol. Some people don’t know the difference.
I’ve been told the most disgusting nasty horrible things by some guys in games bc I’m a girl. It feels very different being personally targeted as opposed to some idiot just saying “y’all trash” or whatever haha.
(For the record, I don’t endorse either but I do think they’re very different things) >

10000% agree with this 
Trash talking someone for their skill/poor performance is one thing 
resorting to sexism, homophobia, racism, etc and other such personal attacks should always be condemned >

There's a difference between trash talking or teabagging and throwing around slurs in chat. A vast majority of people wouldn't consider a little trash talk toxic, it's toxic when you blame your team for everything and tell them to kill themselves, it's toxic when you call someone on the enemy team the hard R. >

The hard R? Rigger? >

Hacker >

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!
[chat disabled for 5 seconds] >

And you're the reason they got rid of proximity chat and teamspeak in all games and everybody uses party chat now. >

Trash talking is different than toxicity. Trash talking is an art and when done correctly it is a tool to get into an enemy's head. Toxicity is just unclever and gross, usually racist, and just isn't fun. When you trash talk and get talked back to there is a rhythm and comradery that makes the game more fun. Toxicity is just name calling and usually doesn't have any cleverness or thought you it, it's aimed to emotionally attack the other person rather than be a strategic attack to get in their head and throw off their game. >

Trash talking can be great for shutting down some toxic assholes.
Get in a good jab and a lot of them just shut up.
Those that don't, or those that play music over the chat, etc, then it's time for a block/mute.
Unfortunately, there is a fragile portion of the populace that thinks it is all "toxic".  Even worse, a lot of them are Johnny-come-latelies with an outsized ego and think the world should conform to their sensibilities, which makes them toxic in their own right.  They're often just as bad or even worse than your typical random insulting trolls because they do it with clarity of conscience.
I call it "the bully loophole".  When you're so "anti-bully" that you allow yourself to be nasty and vitriolic without any sort of limitation, especially not accurate judgement of others.  Anyone who crosses their path is a potential target to be hounded. >

You like being toxic online because it has zero recourse, just an outlet for you to be an asshole. >

Pretty much yes. >

I'm the guy who will mute voice chat immediately upon playing an online game for the first time, but this is a pretty popular opinion. At the very least, it's very popular for people who use voice chat to be trashtalking douchebags >

I’m sure it’s fun for you but it’s just annoying to listen to and we all mute you.  Like calm down it’s literally just cod. we’re all playing the same game and you’re the only one that’s screaming the same recycled jokes over and over and over again. it just makes you look stupid tbh. do it if you want but it’s not making you look as cool as you feel lol >

it's just a game brother >

I know!  I'm so smart! Where's my cookie? >

I don’t mind it but I don’t get to hear it cause of those idiots blasting music in their shitty mics. Why is that so popular? >

For ps5 a lot of mfs just forget to mute the controller >

the toxicity is why i avoid the cesspool of high school teenagers that play trending games. miss me with that waste of energy >

Eh, I used to like it too when I was somewhat competitive. Now I'm not and it just makes me roll my eyes hearing people take something so silly, so seriously. >

Valorant and league suck. The toxic community is the game. >

Yeah yeah, it's great
cries in Apex Legends >

its not even that bad. In plat rank when people actually use game chat I have a good time. Id rather have everyone use gamechat and rarely get a asshole then 90% of poeple having it off. Plus you can just mute assholes or do the arguable better thing and mess with them. >

Gaming. The worlds largest waste of time and energy. >

Bad take. >

I like it and I don't care when it happens to me because cyber bullying isn't real just close your eyes lol. I miss the days of playing fighting games on Xbox live and getting hate mail after absolutely smoking someone, it was like winning twice >

Just a few weeks ago, I was playing injustice 2 and I was in a match against this guy who kept spamming a certain move as red hood to keep me stun-locked and try and get a cheap win. I somehow managed to get a lucky hit in and beat him and I was so upset, I trash talked for the first time in like 6 years and said “get fucked, you move-spamming scrub”. Felt good lol >

You like it because you like the sense of superiority. You're not fighting your opponent, you're battling your insecurities. >

Or...it's just fun to get inside people's heads. Have you heard about how Micheal Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq trashtalked opponents? It's part of any competitive game. 
People trashtalk because it's fun being the best. >

These people never played sports >

Trash talk is okay. Toxic being an asshole is exactly that. >

And it’s people like you who are the reason certain video game communities don’t grow. >

Most of reddit is just as toxic >

Trash talking is one thing, but I just got harassed when I was gaming as a child. >

how so? >

That sounds more like a community / server issue rather than a game issue. If you just play matchmaking you wouldn't come against the same people regularly enough for them to 'care' about hurting you. I never met the same person twice personally in any game that don't have dedicated servers (so like, most shooters) >

Kinda, but it goes along with gaming. >

I mean you can shit talk without being a garbage person. >

I agree honestly. A little trash talk is fun. Makes you feel like you’re really interacting with other people instead of playing against robots. In CS:GO, voice chat is an enormous part of the game for a reason. >

Bring back half time voice chat !! >

i'm sensitive as fuck. in solos i don't mind it but i hate possibly ruining the game for others when i'm in a team game >

i agree, it's like having a funny show just for you >

Same here. It heightens the experience. I am the most toxic player of all time. According to league only the worst 0.0002% get banned for verbal abuse. And I have been banned 5 times. >

i like it when everyone is on the same wavelength and everyone is bagging on each other, but often it’s one person that ruins it. >

I sort of agree up to a point. But if you’re in your 30’s and you’re trash talking 14 year olds over Xbox live…ehhh…kinda cringe. >

This really tells a lot about your personality and morals. That's another person, a human being, at the other end of your game. How are you ok with making someone feel like shit? Sure the game is fun for you but you've just made it a terrible experience for someone else. You know who does that? Narcissistic abusers. >

Genuinely, most people don't take offense to trash talk over video games. >

Banter trash talk? Sure. Purposely provoking someone to rage quit? Psychotic. >

It depends on the degree of toxicity and how it's handled in terms of the game. Take GTA Online for example. It is amusing if done right. Where an entire lobby can turn against one griefer. And Griefers are fun to fuck with on that game too. >

There’s nothing wrong with trash talking if it’s all in good fun. It’s when it goes to racist, sexist bigoted garbage that it becomes a true problem. >

Wait until the racist 12 year old boots your internet for 5 minutes with a free ip stresser >

i like it too. and for mostly one reason. i'm sick of everyone trying to be nice to everyone all the time. half of the shit people say like this is just passive aggressive...which is worse than actual aggression. i fucking love the ability to just talk shit...cuz...it doesn't fucking matter. >

Gamers are one of the biggest reasons I don’t like video games lol >

Translation: " it's the only thing I'm good at in life and it's all I have. Just let me have this please!" >

It's definitely an unpopular opinion. Can't we just be nice to one another :p >

OP - "I like being mean to people, I like environments where i am socially allowed to br mean to people. It sucks when it happens to you but whatcha gonna do, i extract pleasure from other pain. It makes me feel good when other people get upset. Why dont people like hanging out with me?" >

Usually though everyone is shit talking each other so you're not really "extracting pleasure from others pain" in that case. The peak of the shit talking can only occur if both parties are participating, since then you need to ramp up the insults. >

I agree, there is nothing more fun than someone swearing at you after you’ve beat them.  Even if you lose their taunts are hilarious >

same guy that cries and bitches when he loses >

Yeah it’s music to my ears. I find those moments to be some of the most memorable >

People are too soft. There is a mute button, but instead, everyone rather be a victim. >

Some games dont have lol >

Then you're part of the problem. Toxicity means hurting other at some point. It's just bad.
Toxic players have no reason to throw a game and flame teammates. Most of them are/were being bullied, they're depressive, they have mental issues, etc. 
I used to be a lil toxic younger. Never went to insulting others for no reason, but I've quit and afk'ed in many LoL games. I grew up. If you' over 20 years old and act toxic in game, you really gotta be immature and disconnected from the world to get mad and act toxic over such small things. >

I personally don't really shit talk apart from the occasional "get fucked". Some of my friends do though and it can be funny at times.  But what brings me the most joy is when you beat/kill someone and they start to rage or become toxic. >

Mute >

Damn, this is straight fire. Bring it on, hell or high water. Bring me the CHAOS, BABYYYYY.  I take it as a personal challenge to craft, postulate, and formulate the most heinous shit possible to say in my online lobbies once the mud slinging begins. No amount of moral grandstanding is gonna stop this absolute shit tornado of a lobby. We bout pull out the Necronomicon to summon the most evil shit to say. >

Must be a guy here. As a girl, it fucking sucks >

Sucks for guys too, at least some of us. >

Best part of gaming, people are to bloody soft. >

I mean, if you enjoy it then I guess no one can actually force you to not be toxic in games. I don't care for it tbh. I am a lot older now but I do think it's incredibly immature to be toxic in games since it rubs people off the wrong way and makes them dislike the game. Obviously, those people should grow a thicker skin but there is something really immature and weird about an adult person trash-talking kids online and making them lose their shit. If that's enjoyable to u, sure, but it just shows you're a bit immature and should grow up a bit. (not you personally OP) there are different degrees of being toxic. No clue which degree you are in. >

You can gruesomely murder people in a video game but you can't say no no words. >

I agree.  Trash talk is a large part of the fun.
The problem os there is that 1 ahole in every game who takes it too far.
If the community was better at reporting and policing itself then maybe we could still enjoy. >

Douche bag behavior >

Honestly, that's the spirit. Lets have a good, clean/honest, fun game, but when it comes to trash talking, i wanna see shots fired. >

I'm the same way, I would still be gaming in the competitive circuit but sadly I'm an adult now so I don't have as much time to commit to these games anymore but anyone who thinks toxicity shouldn't be part of online gaming are fucking SOFT as fuck and those are the people I would ban from my own team.
People play for fun. I play to win. Losing is NOT fun. >

And thats why women hate gaming
Edit: okay so I've seen a lot of replies like "there are women gamers too" and stuff like that
Sorry i didn't mean to sound like "Woman don't like this and that bc of this and that"
I really didn't mean it like that I and I didn't think people would take it like that considering the post. I meant that when I stop muting myself and say hello in a group, usually they'll roast the shit out of me the second they know I'm a woman. They say disgusting things because it's funny and "trash talk" and that's why I and a lot of other people don't like gaming like that anymore. I'll just mute because otherwise I get 4 people screaming and cussing at me
I didn't mean woman don't like gaming at all or that everyone is the same and feels just like that, I mean lol I still do that myself. Didn't mean to sound like an ass >

No, we don’t, there are plenty of us women gamers out there.
I just use the mute button.  Rare that I have to, but good to have it. >

is it really that bad like people being sexiest all the time. Usally randoms that are girls seem okay >

I never said it was bad I said women don’t hate gaming.   In all my years of gaming, I personally only needed the mute function three or four times. >

Yeah i know you didn't. I meant like other people on the internet say that its "bad" But thanks for the response >

I kinda like it too, as long as there's a control to turn off the voice chat for people who don't want to deal with it. >

Based. What's even the point of playing a competitive game if you can't make some random 9yo punch out his monitor in a fit of rage? >

Just goes to show we as humans are innately toxic, and some of us never mature to more civil approaches >

Kids are wayyy too soft theses days. Even if you just try to win they say you’re being toxic. >

Recently I won a game against some sexists pigs while breastfeeding. I let them know how embarrassed they should be. Its all in good fun. >

Make sure you tell your kid that story when he’s older lol >

That's what made overwatch 1 fun honestly. I want to be able to trashtalk without having to fear getting banned >

People like you make me really hate multiplayer games and retreat back to my single player cozy games. I miss playing with people but I’m a casual player in a world where everyone aspires to be the next pro gamer and it’s just exhausting. >

There’s a difference between punching up, and punching down. Trash talk and being competitive is one thing, but a lot of toxic gameplay is about actually ruining a players game rather than winning…especially when it means beating up on less skilled players. >

people are too soft nowadays >

Down vote for starting your explanation with "bro". >

If this was unpopular , then toxicity in games wouldn't exist lol >

I don't think that's how popularity works >

Agreed, most people aren't toxic when playing. It's mainly the vocal minority >

Well I'm a League of Legends player , can't relate lol >

You and me both, the second i get an aggressive message sent either PM or in chat i grin like an idiot. I get angry myself and have broken a few keyboards and controllers over the years, but trashtalk BELONGS in a PvP focused game, buuuut in the world we live in today you get banned for being angry lol >

I don’t know if I would be publicly admitting to having destructive rages like a toddler lol >

Heheh nah its okay, looking back its just another thing to laugh at imo >

OP is definitely a male. >

I agree, that shits hilarious af.  Once had a teammate tell someone to give their controller to their cat you could hear in the background so they wouldn't die the moment they landed. It socks when it's you but hilarious when it's someone else. >

If ur not being racist homophobic incel it’s fun! >

Same. People are just too sensitive these days and take everything personally. As a matter of fact, some of my best gaming buddies in competitive were people I played against and trashtalked with. Not sure why trashtalking is such a big deal, there is a mute button in every game 🫠 >

I think most are fine with your standard trash talk..it's when people go too far that it's bad. If you trash talk with "fun" in mind..whatevs. but when you trash talk with "hate" in mind, that's when I dislike it. >

Same, if we brought back that toxicity this generation wouldn't be so sensitive >

“if we shoot everyone in the foot they won’t run” >

I never understood how gaming community are "toxic" people are so soft (at least those on the internet).
People bust your balls a bit and you take it as a personal attack instead of some good-natured shit taking. Also it's a video game who gives a shit if your sucking ass in a match it literally means nothing.
If someone is being obnoxious and screaming into the mic or yelling racial slurs there is a mute button is not hard to use. >

2009 MW2 lobbies are just as toxic as they've always been.
Never change COD, never change. >

I think that we wouldnt have as many issues with rage irl if we allow people to just release their inner demons in public lobbies. 🤷‍♂️ >

People are too soft now a days. They get their feelings hurt. >

I remember Modern Warfare and being smoked by some teenager over and over and being fucking FURIOUS so mad, he laughed and laughed. "Whatever kid! At least my daddy didn't buy my Xbox for me! I got my own, and a Porsche and I own my own house and a hot wife.You ain't got shit on me. Fuck off. I've got sperm older than you!" Kid says; "Sounds like a medical problem". I rage quit. My beautiful wife practically wet her pants laughing so hard. >

The amount of ppl in here who just dont get it is hilarious. 
keep talkin shit, my guy. I'm right there with ya, and I got a Tbag comin your way! >

Teabagging a corpse is a really special feeling. >

Only lefties prohibit people from being offensive.
It was actually people inventing the block button, which gave them a tool to reinforce their moronic ideology, remember people cant block people IRL.
We've created one of the most feeble mentally inbred generations in history >


Only lefties prohibit people from being offensive

Oh come on. Right wingers are the most fragile fucking snowflakes the world has ever seen, and they're just projecting hard when they say shit like this.
Trump sucks. Get over it. >

This toxicity was best when lobby’s didn’t disjoin at the end of COD matches
My favorite days of playing BO2 involved having a nemisis on the enemy team in the lobby, and consistently playing against them >

I agree with you and this is why Insurgency: Sandstorm is fire. It's harder than COD or BF so there is less kids and that combined with the fact it's mostly a team game means it's much more skill based so the trash talking is much better. >

I miss the voice chat in Rocket League. It was rarely used but and if it was used then mainly to throw insults at each other. It was glorious >

I totally understand
I mean i don't usually trash talk, sometimes i express my frustration to teammates or friends; sometimes I'll push some buttons at teammates or enemies for fun if the match is stale. As for enemies trash talking it really doesn't matter it always motivates me to be better and hopefully demolish them that match lol. 
Honestly for people exclaiming about toxic communities, i know its easier said than done but you're not forced to be on mic with anyone and you're sure as hell not forced to read messages when i would be practicing and didnt want to hear shit from teammates i always just muted them straight from the get-go so i wouldn't even have it on my mind. I know when I'm doing bad and if I'm doing bad then I'm totally chill with getting absolutely flamed by everyone, its all the fun in the game loll
But i also respect everyone else's opinion, some games you need to communicate with teammates and muting teammates wont save you from those who decide to feed; full blown toxic communities are such a downer. >

i feel free there tbh, if you don't like it just mute >

I also like it because there’s nothing more funny then having someone write entire paragraphs roasting you just because you killed them with a cheap strat >

I hate the competitiveness of modern games. Felt so peaceful to get shit on by elden ring bosses rather than some dude who’s spend 8x more time on a multiplayer game than me. >

Fuck yeah, I also like that runescape still has scammers too. 
Getting scammed as a kid taught me how to deal with that stuff as an adult... plus it was fun scamming people. >

Trash talking without insulting is fun >

If the trash talk would be actually good and not some pathetic bullshit that sounds like 12 years old kids losing their shits. >

There is trash talk, then there is toxic, and then there is just evil bigotry. The line between these seems to have been blurred to the point that there is no longer a distinction. >

I agree with this opinion, my favorite thing they added in COD was the open mic in proximity. It really makes comp games so fun. I miss the days of open mics at the beginning and halves or counter strike. It was so easy to get in the other teams head and make weak minded boys rage quit. Good times. >

Same here. I mostly play full loot PVP MMOs and the guild politics & drama that games like that produce are so entertaining.
Session based games like COD are too low stakes for me >

I absolutely love it. I've been playing a lot of the Forest lately. Highly suggest if you enjoy assholes. >

I used to but then I grew up >

As a League of Legends player of 10 years myself I agree. If you are serious about playing the game you will get emotional and if you get emotional you will get toxic. When people aren't raging in chat and going mental it feels like playing with bots and is disingenuine to me. Also some of the funniest shit ever gets typed then and I wish the companies just let people type whatever the fuck they want, because people will find way to be toxic/annoying anyways (such as the question mark/bait pings in LoL) >

Here's an unpopular opinion >

Especially in old COD games and Rainbow Six Siege, you could trash talk the guy so much that he'll team kill you >

Same. I can't take it but I sure as hell love to dish it. >

I loved it in Modern Warfare 2 back in the day when me and my mates (all English) would end up playing against a team full of Americans, it was the funniest shit ever going sick at each other. >

I love a good story game, but multiplayer is something I absolutely cherish because I know I'm ruining someone's experience. Call me a psycho, but I love that shit. >

Shit talking is fine when not taken too far. When people are doing it knowing they're both joking it can be really fun but most shit talk now is either genuine threats or bigotry. >

Literally me on overwatch😂 I love it >

It is pretty funny just screaming and shouting and being screamed at LOL 😂 >

I've just spent 48 minutes killing your army and your economy.  I burned your houses and crushed your pesky woodcutters.  What? You are worried about your tender feelers?  I may have crushed you like the knave you are.  I have to go zap dinner, are you playing later?  It is a game, remember. >

I love the challenge of trash-talking with stickers on Mario Party Superstars >

How is this unpopular opinion? >

Worst thing ever was when they removed global voice chat in CS:GO. Those 15 seconds of chaos at half time and after the game were amazing. > >

Oh me too tho, hearing a 12 yr old kid yell at a decibel comparable to a straight pipe Cummins is just...it's therapeutic really, no joke either, it's in my top 5 most satisfy8ng encounters period. >

FIFA turns me into an absolutely prick I can feel my blood boil. But I’m super zen when I don’t play. >

it's fun as hell >

When I was scrolling down quickly, I passed this up, my brain registered what it said, I stopped, and then I scrolled back up to read what the hell was going on here…. Needless to say I was disappointed when in reality OP did not post “I like the toxicity in online dating”. I feel robbed of a good read lol >

GTA lobbies can be pretty brutal still >

Dota 2 used to be extremely toxic. They're better since a rating system, but man it used to be bad. >

1000% agree
talking shit is fun for like 50% of the population and fun/ignorable for like the other 40% as bystanders. the last 10% get butthurt and want to ban everything and because they cry the loudest we've had to cater to them and their insanity >

Bro... Are you me >

Lol. It is kinda fun. >

The insults were top notch. I do miss it as well. >

Shitting on kids and watching them rage is pretty hilarious. Little shitheads get uppity and need to be put in their place. >

When we were kids we used to make a game to see who could get the person on the other side of the mic to blow up in a rage. They would always throw it back and the goal was to not genuinely get angry. If you let them get to you and got angry you lost. It was so much fun. >

Are you my long lost friend?!
Because I have said this forever.   It makes gaming way more fun.  Like yah, good sportsmanship is great, but god damit do I love that good old shit talk.
Thats why I was kind of sad that party systems were implemented. >

Le Toucan Has Arrived >

BO2 days were the best. >

play magic the gathering then. >

Low key, i agree to an extent.  The racist and hardcore use of slurs and homophobic jargon is not what I’m talking about but I will say my recent experiences online are comedy….
I usually take years off from gaming so i didn’t play too much ps4 gen, but i got a ps5 this year and for the first time in like 8 years i played COD online and omg it’s comedy…like i was online playing the night it came out and in my first game i did terrible the game ended and the brief window in which everyone can talk for like 20 seconds…started and for the first time i experienced it since it got toxic and i was on the ground laughing my ass off….
One guy had a list of mean critiques that he just spatted off, like “ducksauce1985 is Bitch, i fucked soccerfan98’s mom.” Another guy was just yelling like it was an screamo band “you’re traaaaaaaaaash!!!!!”, a bunch of people just cusin’ out a bunch of bitches and hos, some kids in there and they were talkin shit about a kid at school….so much toxicity in 20 seconds….
Pretty great 👍🏽 >

I don't know if it's really what you're describing, but I always loved Ark: Survival Evolved because of how toxic the players could be. It was always a toss up whether that other player was gonna ignore you, give you some useful tools, or knock you out with a club, lock you in a cage, keep you unconscious by continuously hitting you on the head, and then feeding you poison berries and killing you slowly. It's scarier to hear a group of players talking nearby with proximity chat than it is to be surrounded by a pack of raptors.
That's the kinda toxicity that adds stakes to the game. >

COD lobbies between games in the late 00's were crazy. >

MW2 2010-2012 were like the peak years of absolute shit central, I’m glad I got to experience 100% of it >

Some dude was talking shit over madden, 
He’s down 4, last play. I run field goal formation. 
Play breaks, he’s ready to snap…. Timeout. 
Then I roll out prevent, pass prediction, spread. And incomplete game over. >

Me and another dude were going at it full blast, (COD MW2)  I was just waiting for someone to report it. Supprisingly nobody did. I think I was high and didn't give a fuck anyway but it was pretty fun because you rarely hear the trash talking anymore >

Counter strike 1.2 best shit talk >

As long as they actually play the game, I don't give a shit what you say.  Call me trash, I know I am, but just play the fucking game.  We lose faster if you do. >

Its fun to talk smack while playing a game, it's funny a lot of the times and it's not with people I'll ever meet so whatever. >

I agree, being toxic to an extent can sometimes be wholesome when the other team has banter aswell. A little roast here and there, it’s all fun and games >

Get rekt sweaty noob >

Barrens chat has every other online lobby beat 50 fold >

Not as much as we all like ya mother!   h@h@h@ owned n00b! >

Just a bit yea, but you keep solo dying idgaf about damage... >

I'm an old MW2 veteran.. good old days.. >

Trash talking is fun; toxicity isn’t. >

all we need is after game lobbies to stay and open voice chat >

I find it entertaining in some ways. When someone gets so pissed they have to pop off with ridiculous insults and trash talk, I just laugh >

Think that's common people just don't want to admit it that openly >

And yk what? Back then it never even translated to real life behavior. >

I miss it too theres too much censorship now, plus the ability to report people who said mean words in chat that result is banns or suspensions. >

I think shit talking is fine, but it's when people start looking at other people's stat profiles and tearing them down is when it gets gross for me. >

Rules of online trashtalking 1) Never start first 2) Never trashtalk people who will get it very personal (you will feel bad). Otherwise, when some bozo opens voice chat - open fire. Its like the place where i can just free my inner child and talk nonsense >

Yesss league is the best, there will be random flames 90% of your games and if there isn’t you can easily start something and someone will get the ball rolling >

I usually talk shit cus its nice to see little kids get angry and all, usually I'm in vc while being toxic to someone and me and my buds laugh our asses off >

Gamer assholes like you (and gamers in general) can kiss my ass.
I don't need multiplayer crap, all i need are good singleplayer games. >

My brother yells and trash talks 24/7 Im trying to study for college exams, and sleep.
It drives me crazy. I just want peace and quiet. >

Everyone hating when i Say that i like griefing in gta 5 (not cargo,Just killing and making them rage) but i Always have a ton of fun >

Yeah that mixed with griefing the absolute hell out of somebody until they leave. Funny as all hell. >

The toxicity in online gaming is just entertaining, especially when it's between two team mates >

A great release, bad day at work? Take it out on noobmaster69 for quick scoping you. >

Xbox vc was packgod on steroids >

Congrats, you are part of the reason I deactivate the chat in all online games. >

Generally it’s kinda fun pissing off someone, but if you’re playing competitive there’s nothing more annoying than someone being a bad sport or generally annoying in some way >

To each their own. I never liked coming home from toxicity (school/work) then getting online and having to deal with it again. It's like you can never escape it. That's why I rarely if ever use the mic on games and/or leave game chat on. >

Talking shit during online games is how I get pumped to shoot more zombies >

To be fair, it’s entertaining at the least >

This is probably not as unpopular as I would like to think, but this attitude is c**t behaviour. >

I play Elder Scrolls Online; one time I ported to a fast travel point and there was a group of friends trash talking others into PvP fights, and then telling them off for their character builds and how they're for weak people and anybody can rock it. Of course, it was trash talk so it was loaded with humor and sarcasm. I played for 4+ hours that day, and I regularly ported to that location every 20 minutes for quest stuff and would just laugh. They literally just sat on the game talking shit to people, didn't do anything game related >

You are not chill you just dump your toxicity online instead >

Codm all chat in the br mode was crazy. Glad i quit my gaming addiction though >

Halo was famous for this. >

Allow me to introduce UFC4 >

There is a diff between trash talking and straight up flaming each other and making your own team lose. Also sexism and racism plays a big role as well. While people should grow a thick skin that doesn’t change how awful some people are and shouldn’t be >

It seems like if there was ever an appropriate context that would be it. >

As a PC gamer it felt like the toxic age came out of no where. Most PC games had been co-op with really respectful communities and then cross play shows up and all these veteran console trolls show up with years of griefing experience and broken mic headsets straight outta drive-thrus. Y'all are monsters. >

Glad I never have to interact with losers like you >

Trash talking: Witty, intelligent, humorous banter.  A good example would be Jimmy Carr responding to hecklers.
Toxicity: Uncontrolled emotional outbursts made by immature, insecure idiots.  A good example would be your average Dota 2 player. >

As a woman, can’t say I feel the same way. People lose their minds when they hear a female voice on the other side and not in a good way >

Sometimes it’s funny.  Then there’s the times every other word is a racial slur >

10000% Agree, when you start typing to everyone in the game and pretending to be super angry and toxic its very fun. Much better than tryharding every game and wanting to rip your hairs out when you lose. >

Trash talking isn’t that toxic. I’ll mute anyone. But when you destroy my 1000+ hrs of work because you want to be a child, that’s toxic. Be sure my clan will come for the antagonist. When you bait and trap new players for hazing we’re personally going to have a problem. >

Been playing games for a long long time and while I agree. trash talking and toxicity are two different beasts. I might just be exhausted with it all at this point but when you're trying to Actually do something impactful in a game say like you're one of the last remaining players on a team and your dead team mates are just screaming "Bad team" or "Bad player" over and over while you're trying to clutch it's just.. nice, great. thanks for screaming in my ear for those 5 minutes.  
I might of hit the threshold for grumpy gamer lol. >

I wouldn't do it, but I do enjoy listening to banter in voice chat especially after a match, good ol cod lobbies.
Once it goes from banter to throwing/greifing or targeted harassment is where I draw the line tho. >

Yeah my gf hates when I play CoD but I tell her it’s normal >

"I'm so chill in real life"
Definitely beats his wife/girlfriend/cousin. >

You def sit to pee >

Haha🗿 >

same , irl I am a chill guy I respect women and dont mind gay people around me .
But dude when I queue in Valorant, actually I am not toxic bu default , most games I ll be just chill but when I have a bad game and my mental gets real downhill I become a beast ,I ll throw the game , be sexist and toxic even though I know very well I am in the wrong . >

Very unpopular. Very weird. >

You must not be black. Try shit talking on a COD forum and they hear my voice, it’s a barrage of racial slurs after that >

You got issues that you should handle even if you don't realize it, and you aren't as chill as you think. >

This is because deep down you know you want freedom of speech >

Completely agree, its part of gaming, make people rage and rage yourself, the cimpetitive game cycle. >

Idk I mute every chat on every game >

I love getting drunk as shit on my days off and talking massive shit to people in CSGO at 2am. I love the hate you get in return. Brings be back to '06
Absolutely one of my guilty pleasures >

Its fun until it happens to u lol but u gotta roll w the punches >

Oh man, inject OG MW2 lobbies into my veins. >

I don't think there's much trash talking going on these days. 
It's more just toxicity. 
Trash talking you are atleast trying to point something out that gets in the other person's head. 
Toxicity your saying stupid shit for the sake of saying it.
From wishing people to die to racist slurs. Like bruh, there's and easier way to say my k/d is trash and I'm getting carried lol >

it’s kind of pathetic if you ask me >

Shittalking is fine but when it veers into slurs and lazy insults it just stops being fun. Calling someone fat or gay isn't the peak of disses, but if you're creative it's fine. >

trash talk is fine, problem is it gets very racist very quickly >

100%. To much fun shitting on people. >

What's your gamer tag so I can block? >

If all you need is a videogame to become a toxic person then you're a toxic person in general. Plus, I get that you like it, but are you really gonna spend your life looking to feel good about yourself for literally a moment? There's plenty of things that give joy and last longer than a moment.
I got a feeling that what you're going for is the type of trash talk that's non specific to the person whose being trash talked, which can be fun with friends and when everyone is in the joke, but doing that to strangers? Naah, that's inappropriate, keep that shit to yourself if that's what you do.
Have an upvote tho. >

I love witty toxicity. Something that makes you laugh, amongst friends. What I don't like is the toxic unimaginative chavs, who just say lazy comments/insults purely to be mean. 
There's a fine line perhaps, but the difference between two funny people being toxic to each other, and someone just being hateful is clear to see. >

I mean I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment about chat lobbies being a place for shit talk but I do disagree with the sentiment that you're soo chill despite doing this. It's just making excuses and splitting hairs to justify your behavior. Either you talk poorly to people because you can, which means you're not chill or you don't do that which means you are chill. Everything else is just trying to justify "non-chill" behaviors while trying to maintain a persona and personal belief that you are a "chill" person. Which is hypocritical. 
You can enjoy doing this all you like, but this is still an active choice you're making to behave like this which means you're not chill. Just because it doesn't happen to be towards people you're face-to-face with doesn't change the fact that you still treat people like this. You take that pent up aggression and edginess and unleash it in a space where you believe this type of behavior is consequence-free and you advocate for it to remain a socially acceptable behavior. >

I miss when trash talking was creative instead of just listing off every expletive they carry in that gray matter of theirs. >

I agree but there’s definitely a difference between trash talk and harassment >

Idk, being called the n-word repeatedly for no reason hits different when you’re actually black. >

I feel like toxicity is more racist/homophobic stuff yelled in lobbies. I would consider what you’re talking about trashtalking. those two feel different to me >

So this gets 1k+ upvotes but the actual unpopular opinion gets 0?
I mean, toxicity and trash talking happens in all competitive games. This is not unpopular. >

Trash talking opponents makes sense to me. Yelling at your teammates in a game is fucking dumb. More often then not it’s counterproductive >

I have tilting problems, I just want to relax after a long day and play some games but then assholes come around and try to make everyone around them pissed off and for what purpose?? >

There are things I cannot say IRL that I could just unleash in online gaming. I love trash talking enemies >

Honestly, I loved the toxicity in online shooters. I'm absolute garbage at trash talk.
Back in the Halo 3 and mw2 days, nothing made my day better than coming home and hearing my pro shit talker buddy absolutely demolish guys. Even the ones who whooped our ass in game had no chance. 
Now, league of legends? I can't stand toxicity on that game, because it's almost always from your own team. >

This is what I've been saying for years I don't mind it at all, for reference I don't view trash talking, flaming or tea bagging etc.. as "toxic". The only thing I view as actually toxic is throwing, sabotaging, smurfing etc... People are wayyyyyy too soft, just look at the Valorant subreddit, every other day there's someone crying about "tHe ToXiCiTy". Devs need to stop giving a crap about this "issue" and actually focus on getting rid off cheaters. >

I'm glad it's not just me lol. I thrive off the negativity when they say toxic insults as their last words (homophobic/racial). They don't know me or my background so it's impossible to take anything personal. Fuck your 'hard day' or chill session, go play the campaign to relax. >

Lol 😂 I do miss the old Xbox lobby chats, straight shit talking for hours >

The latest cod release has brought it back in all its glory >

Call of Duty and Halo started off the toxic gamer movement. I found my old 360, I started smiling thinking about all the ungodly names I was called in the lobbies. If only my mom knew how many people they said fucked her. >

When I was 12 a drunk 40 year old told me he'd cut my head off and shit down my neck. Glorious, online gaming was just glorious. >

Lol you can’t recreate these memories >

The MW 2 call of duty lobbies were hilarious ngl. When someone would be using noob tubes or the overpowered duel 1887 shotguns. Good times. >

This is exactly what I thought of. I’m not a big mic user but I’ll toss it on for some COD grind and trash talk >

Trash talking was one thing that I didn't mind. 
But toxic gaming communities have gone way beyond that. 
I've got like 3000 hours on Dota 2 and matchmaking is literally a roll of the dice to see which team has less griefers on their side. 
It's dogshit and a waste of everyone's time. A little shit talk back and forth back in the day raised the stakes of the game but now most of the shit talk is your own team. It's not just that way for Dota either, all MOBAs are the same. >

Shit-talking for a few seconds in between lobbies is okay, but completely tearing down teammates or harassing someone specifically is never a good look. >

It's especially painful in games like Dota where communication is key to winning, games are long, and you get punished if you leave. 
Sometimes its literal BS from minute 1 and it can go on for an hour. >

Trash talk on the other team can be fun but it's usually just so bitter and spiteful that it makes me uncomfortable. Like I dont wanna hear 2 kids yell at each other over a USB mic for an entire match >

Nobody likes actual toxicity
Edit: Other than really shitty people who as this guy says like seeing people rage quit >

Because of the inevitable toxic person in every lobby I just 'mute all' at the beginning of each match. 
Yeah, I could mute that one person in the lobby, but..
1) I don't wanna be faffing about mid-game to mute a specific person
2) The context of other chat is lost when you can't hear part of the 'conversation"
I'd love to have chat on, it would be cool if people could talk about the game or discuss tactics, give callouts etc. But I'm not into hearing kids losing their shit and insulting people and their moms. >

Try Squad. Good comms there usually. >

I played Squad for a bit, maybe it's just my bad luck, but I always ended up with keyboard warriors who acted like it was real life and not just a game. Other than that it was fun, but for fucks sake, I already lived a warzone once or twice, I don't wanna do it in a damn game as well... >

aaaalot of vets play >

I know that, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not real life, and that too many people treat it like it is >

I enjoy trash talking, but only when playing with people I know. Insulting strangers is bad, insulting your homies can be fun. >

insulting the homies is my favorite past time but i’m so nice to strangers lmao >

Halo 2 lobbies back in the day were a different breed >

Lmao “i’m the nicest person you’ll meet until you get on my gaming side” >

Especially squeakers w/ cheap mic or headset >

Toxic gamers enjoy toxicity? Who knew? >

It's part of the reason single player games have made a comeback, so good. Fuck online games. >

I'm so glad campaign style and open world games are making a come back over battle Royale bullshit. >

I find both to be fun. BR’s for adrenaline and competition. Single players for relaxation >

I just played through resident evil 7. That is not a relaxing game. >

So you like having a 10 year old kid (who sounds like Fred) scream through his dollar store mic and blow out your speakers/headphones? OK… >

If you generalize it like that, no, but if you contextualize it to like where the kid is bitching and to the point of absolute feral cries because he keeps getting spawn-killed, then yes. It's like in a game of monopoly where you have three properties in two corners and your friend keeps landing on them. >

schadenfreude
That's the word you're looking for. >

Didn't even know there was a word for this, appreciate it. >

I think this is half of reddit. People just come here and enjoy being insufferable assholes to anyone about anything. >

I think there's a difference between trash talking and toxicity.
trash talking or light taunting to make your competitor lose focus is a little bit of a lost art and can be done in a funny and clever way without toxicity, racism, or bigotry. 
unfortunately these days a lot of people confuse trash talk with being straight up toxic and shouting racial slurs or trying to make your opponents so upset on a personal level that they quit playing. you're not even a gamer if you do that because you're not there to play games at that point, you're just a bully. >

Fr there’s a difference between saying “gg ez” and “KYS N-word” lol. Some people don’t know the difference.
I’ve been told the most disgusting nasty horrible things by some guys in games bc I’m a girl. It feels very different being personally targeted as opposed to some idiot just saying “y’all trash” or whatever haha.
(For the record, I don’t endorse either but I do think they’re very different things) >

10000% agree with this 
Trash talking someone for their skill/poor performance is one thing 
resorting to sexism, homophobia, racism, etc and other such personal attacks should always be condemned >

There's a difference between trash talking or teabagging and throwing around slurs in chat. A vast majority of people wouldn't consider a little trash talk toxic, it's toxic when you blame your team for everything and tell them to kill themselves, it's toxic when you call someone on the enemy team the hard R. >

The hard R? Rigger? >

Hacker >

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!
[chat disabled for 5 seconds] >

And you're the reason they got rid of proximity chat and teamspeak in all games and everybody uses party chat now. >

Trash talking is different than toxicity. Trash talking is an art and when done correctly it is a tool to get into an enemy's head. Toxicity is just unclever and gross, usually racist, and just isn't fun. When you trash talk and get talked back to there is a rhythm and comradery that makes the game more fun. Toxicity is just name calling and usually doesn't have any cleverness or thought you it, it's aimed to emotionally attack the other person rather than be a strategic attack to get in their head and throw off their game. >

Trash talking can be great for shutting down some toxic assholes.
Get in a good jab and a lot of them just shut up.
Those that don't, or those that play music over the chat, etc, then it's time for a block/mute.
Unfortunately, there is a fragile portion of the populace that thinks it is all "toxic".  Even worse, a lot of them are Johnny-come-latelies with an outsized ego and think the world should conform to their sensibilities, which makes them toxic in their own right.  They're often just as bad or even worse than your typical random insulting trolls because they do it with clarity of conscience.
I call it "the bully loophole".  When you're so "anti-bully" that you allow yourself to be nasty and vitriolic without any sort of limitation, especially not accurate judgement of others.  Anyone who crosses their path is a potential target to be hounded. >

You like being toxic online because it has zero recourse, just an outlet for you to be an asshole. >

Pretty much yes. >

I'm the guy who will mute voice chat immediately upon playing an online game for the first time, but this is a pretty popular opinion. At the very least, it's very popular for people who use voice chat to be trashtalking douchebags >

I’m sure it’s fun for you but it’s just annoying to listen to and we all mute you.  Like calm down it’s literally just cod. we’re all playing the same game and you’re the only one that’s screaming the same recycled jokes over and over and over again. it just makes you look stupid tbh. do it if you want but it’s not making you look as cool as you feel lol >

it's just a game brother >

I know!  I'm so smart! Where's my cookie? >

I don’t mind it but I don’t get to hear it cause of those idiots blasting music in their shitty mics. Why is that so popular? >

For ps5 a lot of mfs just forget to mute the controller >

the toxicity is why i avoid the cesspool of high school teenagers that play trending games. miss me with that waste of energy >

Eh, I used to like it too when I was somewhat competitive. Now I'm not and it just makes me roll my eyes hearing people take something so silly, so seriously. >

Valorant and league suck. The toxic community is the game. >

Yeah yeah, it's great
cries in Apex Legends >

its not even that bad. In plat rank when people actually use game chat I have a good time. Id rather have everyone use gamechat and rarely get a asshole then 90% of poeple having it off. Plus you can just mute assholes or do the arguable better thing and mess with them. >

Gaming. The worlds largest waste of time and energy. >

Bad take. >

I like it and I don't care when it happens to me because cyber bullying isn't real just close your eyes lol. I miss the days of playing fighting games on Xbox live and getting hate mail after absolutely smoking someone, it was like winning twice >

Just a few weeks ago, I was playing injustice 2 and I was in a match against this guy who kept spamming a certain move as red hood to keep me stun-locked and try and get a cheap win. I somehow managed to get a lucky hit in and beat him and I was so upset, I trash talked for the first time in like 6 years and said “get fucked, you move-spamming scrub”. Felt good lol >

You like it because you like the sense of superiority. You're not fighting your opponent, you're battling your insecurities. >

Or...it's just fun to get inside people's heads. Have you heard about how Micheal Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq trashtalked opponents? It's part of any competitive game. 
People trashtalk because it's fun being the best. >

These people never played sports >

Trash talk is okay. Toxic being an asshole is exactly that. >

And it’s people like you who are the reason certain video game communities don’t grow. >

Most of reddit is just as toxic >

Trash talking is one thing, but I just got harassed when I was gaming as a child. >

how so? >

That sounds more like a community / server issue rather than a game issue. If you just play matchmaking you wouldn't come against the same people regularly enough for them to 'care' about hurting you. I never met the same person twice personally in any game that don't have dedicated servers (so like, most shooters) >

Kinda, but it goes along with gaming. >

I mean you can shit talk without being a garbage person. >

I agree honestly. A little trash talk is fun. Makes you feel like you’re really interacting with other people instead of playing against robots. In CS:GO, voice chat is an enormous part of the game for a reason. >

Bring back half time voice chat !! >

i'm sensitive as fuck. in solos i don't mind it but i hate possibly ruining the game for others when i'm in a team game >

i agree, it's like having a funny show just for you >

Same here. It heightens the experience. I am the most toxic player of all time. According to league only the worst 0.0002% get banned for verbal abuse. And I have been banned 5 times. >

i like it when everyone is on the same wavelength and everyone is bagging on each other, but often it’s one person that ruins it. >

I sort of agree up to a point. But if you’re in your 30’s and you’re trash talking 14 year olds over Xbox live…ehhh…kinda cringe. >

This really tells a lot about your personality and morals. That's another person, a human being, at the other end of your game. How are you ok with making someone feel like shit? Sure the game is fun for you but you've just made it a terrible experience for someone else. You know who does that? Narcissistic abusers. >

Genuinely, most people don't take offense to trash talk over video games. >

Banter trash talk? Sure. Purposely provoking someone to rage quit? Psychotic. >

It depends on the degree of toxicity and how it's handled in terms of the game. Take GTA Online for example. It is amusing if done right. Where an entire lobby can turn against one griefer. And Griefers are fun to fuck with on that game too. >

There’s nothing wrong with trash talking if it’s all in good fun. It’s when it goes to racist, sexist bigoted garbage that it becomes a true problem. >

Wait until the racist 12 year old boots your internet for 5 minutes with a free ip stresser >

i like it too. and for mostly one reason. i'm sick of everyone trying to be nice to everyone all the time. half of the shit people say like this is just passive aggressive...which is worse than actual aggression. i fucking love the ability to just talk shit...cuz...it doesn't fucking matter. >

Gamers are one of the biggest reasons I don’t like video games lol >

Translation: " it's the only thing I'm good at in life and it's all I have. Just let me have this please!" >

It's definitely an unpopular opinion. Can't we just be nice to one another :p >

OP - "I like being mean to people, I like environments where i am socially allowed to br mean to people. It sucks when it happens to you but whatcha gonna do, i extract pleasure from other pain. It makes me feel good when other people get upset. Why dont people like hanging out with me?" >

Usually though everyone is shit talking each other so you're not really "extracting pleasure from others pain" in that case. The peak of the shit talking can only occur if both parties are participating, since then you need to ramp up the insults. >

I agree, there is nothing more fun than someone swearing at you after you’ve beat them.  Even if you lose their taunts are hilarious >

same guy that cries and bitches when he loses >

Yeah it’s music to my ears. I find those moments to be some of the most memorable >

People are too soft. There is a mute button, but instead, everyone rather be a victim. >

Some games dont have lol >

Then you're part of the problem. Toxicity means hurting other at some point. It's just bad.
Toxic players have no reason to throw a game and flame teammates. Most of them are/were being bullied, they're depressive, they have mental issues, etc. 
I used to be a lil toxic younger. Never went to insulting others for no reason, but I've quit and afk'ed in many LoL games. I grew up. If you' over 20 years old and act toxic in game, you really gotta be immature and disconnected from the world to get mad and act toxic over such small things. >

I personally don't really shit talk apart from the occasional "get fucked". Some of my friends do though and it can be funny at times.  But what brings me the most joy is when you beat/kill someone and they start to rage or become toxic. >

Mute >

Damn, this is straight fire. Bring it on, hell or high water. Bring me the CHAOS, BABYYYYY.  I take it as a personal challenge to craft, postulate, and formulate the most heinous shit possible to say in my online lobbies once the mud slinging begins. No amount of moral grandstanding is gonna stop this absolute shit tornado of a lobby. We bout pull out the Necronomicon to summon the most evil shit to say. >

Must be a guy here. As a girl, it fucking sucks >

Sucks for guys too, at least some of us. >

Best part of gaming, people are to bloody soft. >

I mean, if you enjoy it then I guess no one can actually force you to not be toxic in games. I don't care for it tbh. I am a lot older now but I do think it's incredibly immature to be toxic in games since it rubs people off the wrong way and makes them dislike the game. Obviously, those people should grow a thicker skin but there is something really immature and weird about an adult person trash-talking kids online and making them lose their shit. If that's enjoyable to u, sure, but it just shows you're a bit immature and should grow up a bit. (not you personally OP) there are different degrees of being toxic. No clue which degree you are in. >

You can gruesomely murder people in a video game but you can't say no no words. >

I agree.  Trash talk is a large part of the fun.
The problem os there is that 1 ahole in every game who takes it too far.
If the community was better at reporting and policing itself then maybe we could still enjoy. >

Douche bag behavior >

Honestly, that's the spirit. Lets have a good, clean/honest, fun game, but when it comes to trash talking, i wanna see shots fired. >

I'm the same way, I would still be gaming in the competitive circuit but sadly I'm an adult now so I don't have as much time to commit to these games anymore but anyone who thinks toxicity shouldn't be part of online gaming are fucking SOFT as fuck and those are the people I would ban from my own team.
People play for fun. I play to win. Losing is NOT fun. >

And thats why women hate gaming
Edit: okay so I've seen a lot of replies like "there are women gamers too" and stuff like that
Sorry i didn't mean to sound like "Woman don't like this and that bc of this and that"
I really didn't mean it like that I and I didn't think people would take it like that considering the post. I meant that when I stop muting myself and say hello in a group, usually they'll roast the shit out of me the second they know I'm a woman. They say disgusting things because it's funny and "trash talk" and that's why I and a lot of other people don't like gaming like that anymore. I'll just mute because otherwise I get 4 people screaming and cussing at me
I didn't mean woman don't like gaming at all or that everyone is the same and feels just like that, I mean lol I still do that myself. Didn't mean to sound like an ass >

No, we don’t, there are plenty of us women gamers out there.
I just use the mute button.  Rare that I have to, but good to have it. >

is it really that bad like people being sexiest all the time. Usally randoms that are girls seem okay >

I never said it was bad I said women don’t hate gaming.   In all my years of gaming, I personally only needed the mute function three or four times. >

Yeah i know you didn't. I meant like other people on the internet say that its "bad" But thanks for the response >

I kinda like it too, as long as there's a control to turn off the voice chat for people who don't want to deal with it. >

Based. What's even the point of playing a competitive game if you can't make some random 9yo punch out his monitor in a fit of rage? >

Just goes to show we as humans are innately toxic, and some of us never mature to more civil approaches >

Kids are wayyy too soft theses days. Even if you just try to win they say you’re being toxic. >

Recently I won a game against some sexists pigs while breastfeeding. I let them know how embarrassed they should be. Its all in good fun. >

Make sure you tell your kid that story when he’s older lol >

That's what made overwatch 1 fun honestly. I want to be able to trashtalk without having to fear getting banned >

People like you make me really hate multiplayer games and retreat back to my single player cozy games. I miss playing with people but I’m a casual player in a world where everyone aspires to be the next pro gamer and it’s just exhausting. >

There’s a difference between punching up, and punching down. Trash talk and being competitive is one thing, but a lot of toxic gameplay is about actually ruining a players game rather than winning…especially when it means beating up on less skilled players. >

people are too soft nowadays >

Down vote for starting your explanation with "bro". >

If this was unpopular , then toxicity in games wouldn't exist lol >

I don't think that's how popularity works >

Agreed, most people aren't toxic when playing. It's mainly the vocal minority >

Well I'm a League of Legends player , can't relate lol >

You and me both, the second i get an aggressive message sent either PM or in chat i grin like an idiot. I get angry myself and have broken a few keyboards and controllers over the years, but trashtalk BELONGS in a PvP focused game, buuuut in the world we live in today you get banned for being angry lol >

I don’t know if I would be publicly admitting to having destructive rages like a toddler lol >

Heheh nah its okay, looking back its just another thing to laugh at imo >

OP is definitely a male. >

I agree, that shits hilarious af.  Once had a teammate tell someone to give their controller to their cat you could hear in the background so they wouldn't die the moment they landed. It socks when it's you but hilarious when it's someone else. >

If ur not being racist homophobic incel it’s fun! >

Same. People are just too sensitive these days and take everything personally. As a matter of fact, some of my best gaming buddies in competitive were people I played against and trashtalked with. Not sure why trashtalking is such a big deal, there is a mute button in every game 🫠 >

I think most are fine with your standard trash talk..it's when people go too far that it's bad. If you trash talk with "fun" in mind..whatevs. but when you trash talk with "hate" in mind, that's when I dislike it. >

Same, if we brought back that toxicity this generation wouldn't be so sensitive >

“if we shoot everyone in the foot they won’t run” >

I never understood how gaming community are "toxic" people are so soft (at least those on the internet).
People bust your balls a bit and you take it as a personal attack instead of some good-natured shit taking. Also it's a video game who gives a shit if your sucking ass in a match it literally means nothing.
If someone is being obnoxious and screaming into the mic or yelling racial slurs there is a mute button is not hard to use. >

2009 MW2 lobbies are just as toxic as they've always been.
Never change COD, never change. >

I think that we wouldnt have as many issues with rage irl if we allow people to just release their inner demons in public lobbies. 🤷‍♂️ >

People are too soft now a days. They get their feelings hurt. >

I remember Modern Warfare and being smoked by some teenager over and over and being fucking FURIOUS so mad, he laughed and laughed. "Whatever kid! At least my daddy didn't buy my Xbox for me! I got my own, and a Porsche and I own my own house and a hot wife.You ain't got shit on me. Fuck off. I've got sperm older than you!" Kid says; "Sounds like a medical problem". I rage quit. My beautiful wife practically wet her pants laughing so hard. >

The amount of ppl in here who just dont get it is hilarious. 
keep talkin shit, my guy. I'm right there with ya, and I got a Tbag comin your way! >

Teabagging a corpse is a really special feeling. >

Only lefties prohibit people from being offensive.
It was actually people inventing the block button, which gave them a tool to reinforce their moronic ideology, remember people cant block people IRL.
We've created one of the most feeble mentally inbred generations in history >


Only lefties prohibit people from being offensive

Oh come on. Right wingers are the most fragile fucking snowflakes the world has ever seen, and they're just projecting hard when they say shit like this.
Trump sucks. Get over it. >

This toxicity was best when lobby’s didn’t disjoin at the end of COD matches
My favorite days of playing BO2 involved having a nemisis on the enemy team in the lobby, and consistently playing against them >

I agree with you and this is why Insurgency: Sandstorm is fire. It's harder than COD or BF so there is less kids and that combined with the fact it's mostly a team game means it's much more skill based so the trash talking is much better. >

I miss the voice chat in Rocket League. It was rarely used but and if it was used then mainly to throw insults at each other. It was glorious >

I totally understand
I mean i don't usually trash talk, sometimes i express my frustration to teammates or friends; sometimes I'll push some buttons at teammates or enemies for fun if the match is stale. As for enemies trash talking it really doesn't matter it always motivates me to be better and hopefully demolish them that match lol. 
Honestly for people exclaiming about toxic communities, i know its easier said than done but you're not forced to be on mic with anyone and you're sure as hell not forced to read messages when i would be practicing and didnt want to hear shit from teammates i always just muted them straight from the get-go so i wouldn't even have it on my mind. I know when I'm doing bad and if I'm doing bad then I'm totally chill with getting absolutely flamed by everyone, its all the fun in the game loll
But i also respect everyone else's opinion, some games you need to communicate with teammates and muting teammates wont save you from those who decide to feed; full blown toxic communities are such a downer. >

i feel free there tbh, if you don't like it just mute >

I also like it because there’s nothing more funny then having someone write entire paragraphs roasting you just because you killed them with a cheap strat >

I hate the competitiveness of modern games. Felt so peaceful to get shit on by elden ring bosses rather than some dude who’s spend 8x more time on a multiplayer game than me. >

Fuck yeah, I also like that runescape still has scammers too. 
Getting scammed as a kid taught me how to deal with that stuff as an adult... plus it was fun scamming people. >

Trash talking without insulting is fun >

If the trash talk would be actually good and not some pathetic bullshit that sounds like 12 years old kids losing their shits. >

There is trash talk, then there is toxic, and then there is just evil bigotry. The line between these seems to have been blurred to the point that there is no longer a distinction. >

I agree with this opinion, my favorite thing they added in COD was the open mic in proximity. It really makes comp games so fun. I miss the days of open mics at the beginning and halves or counter strike. It was so easy to get in the other teams head and make weak minded boys rage quit. Good times. >

Same here. I mostly play full loot PVP MMOs and the guild politics & drama that games like that produce are so entertaining.
Session based games like COD are too low stakes for me >

I absolutely love it. I've been playing a lot of the Forest lately. Highly suggest if you enjoy assholes. >

I used to but then I grew up >

As a League of Legends player of 10 years myself I agree. If you are serious about playing the game you will get emotional and if you get emotional you will get toxic. When people aren't raging in chat and going mental it feels like playing with bots and is disingenuine to me. Also some of the funniest shit ever gets typed then and I wish the companies just let people type whatever the fuck they want, because people will find way to be toxic/annoying anyways (such as the question mark/bait pings in LoL) >

Here's an unpopular opinion >

Especially in old COD games and Rainbow Six Siege, you could trash talk the guy so much that he'll team kill you >

Same. I can't take it but I sure as hell love to dish it. >

I loved it in Modern Warfare 2 back in the day when me and my mates (all English) would end up playing against a team full of Americans, it was the funniest shit ever going sick at each other. >

I love a good story game, but multiplayer is something I absolutely cherish because I know I'm ruining someone's experience. Call me a psycho, but I love that shit. >

Shit talking is fine when not taken too far. When people are doing it knowing they're both joking it can be really fun but most shit talk now is either genuine threats or bigotry. >

Literally me on overwatch😂 I love it >

It is pretty funny just screaming and shouting and being screamed at LOL 😂 >

I've just spent 48 minutes killing your army and your economy.  I burned your houses and crushed your pesky woodcutters.  What? You are worried about your tender feelers?  I may have crushed you like the knave you are.  I have to go zap dinner, are you playing later?  It is a game, remember. >

I love the challenge of trash-talking with stickers on Mario Party Superstars >

How is this unpopular opinion? >

Worst thing ever was when they removed global voice chat in CS:GO. Those 15 seconds of chaos at half time and after the game were amazing. > >

Oh me too tho, hearing a 12 yr old kid yell at a decibel comparable to a straight pipe Cummins is just...it's therapeutic really, no joke either, it's in my top 5 most satisfy8ng encounters period. >

FIFA turns me into an absolutely prick I can feel my blood boil. But I’m super zen when I don’t play. >

it's fun as hell >

When I was scrolling down quickly, I passed this up, my brain registered what it said, I stopped, and then I scrolled back up to read what the hell was going on here…. Needless to say I was disappointed when in reality OP did not post “I like the toxicity in online dating”. I feel robbed of a good read lol >

GTA lobbies can be pretty brutal still >

Dota 2 used to be extremely toxic. They're better since a rating system, but man it used to be bad. >

1000% agree
talking shit is fun for like 50% of the population and fun/ignorable for like the other 40% as bystanders. the last 10% get butthurt and want to ban everything and because they cry the loudest we've had to cater to them and their insanity >

Bro... Are you me >

Lol. It is kinda fun. >

The insults were top notch. I do miss it as well. >

Shitting on kids and watching them rage is pretty hilarious. Little shitheads get uppity and need to be put in their place. >

When we were kids we used to make a game to see who could get the person on the other side of the mic to blow up in a rage. They would always throw it back and the goal was to not genuinely get angry. If you let them get to you and got angry you lost. It was so much fun. >

Are you my long lost friend?!
Because I have said this forever.   It makes gaming way more fun.  Like yah, good sportsmanship is great, but god damit do I love that good old shit talk.
Thats why I was kind of sad that party systems were implemented. >

Le Toucan Has Arrived >

BO2 days were the best. >

play magic the gathering then. >

Low key, i agree to an extent.  The racist and hardcore use of slurs and homophobic jargon is not what I’m talking about but I will say my recent experiences online are comedy….
I usually take years off from gaming so i didn’t play too much ps4 gen, but i got a ps5 this year and for the first time in like 8 years i played COD online and omg it’s comedy…like i was online playing the night it came out and in my first game i did terrible the game ended and the brief window in which everyone can talk for like 20 seconds…started and for the first time i experienced it since it got toxic and i was on the ground laughing my ass off….
One guy had a list of mean critiques that he just spatted off, like “ducksauce1985 is Bitch, i fucked soccerfan98’s mom.” Another guy was just yelling like it was an screamo band “you’re traaaaaaaaaash!!!!!”, a bunch of people just cusin’ out a bunch of bitches and hos, some kids in there and they were talkin shit about a kid at school….so much toxicity in 20 seconds….
Pretty great 👍🏽 >

I don't know if it's really what you're describing, but I always loved Ark: Survival Evolved because of how toxic the players could be. It was always a toss up whether that other player was gonna ignore you, give you some useful tools, or knock you out with a club, lock you in a cage, keep you unconscious by continuously hitting you on the head, and then feeding you poison berries and killing you slowly. It's scarier to hear a group of players talking nearby with proximity chat than it is to be surrounded by a pack of raptors.
That's the kinda toxicity that adds stakes to the game. >

COD lobbies between games in the late 00's were crazy. >

MW2 2010-2012 were like the peak years of absolute shit central, I’m glad I got to experience 100% of it >

Some dude was talking shit over madden, 
He’s down 4, last play. I run field goal formation. 
Play breaks, he’s ready to snap…. Timeout. 
Then I roll out prevent, pass prediction, spread. And incomplete game over. >

Me and another dude were going at it full blast, (COD MW2)  I was just waiting for someone to report it. Supprisingly nobody did. I think I was high and didn't give a fuck anyway but it was pretty fun because you rarely hear the trash talking anymore >

Counter strike 1.2 best shit talk >

As long as they actually play the game, I don't give a shit what you say.  Call me trash, I know I am, but just play the fucking game.  We lose faster if you do. >

Its fun to talk smack while playing a game, it's funny a lot of the times and it's not with people I'll ever meet so whatever. >

I agree, being toxic to an extent can sometimes be wholesome when the other team has banter aswell. A little roast here and there, it’s all fun and games >

Get rekt sweaty noob >

Barrens chat has every other online lobby beat 50 fold >

Not as much as we all like ya mother!   h@h@h@ owned n00b! >

Just a bit yea, but you keep solo dying idgaf about damage... >

I'm an old MW2 veteran.. good old days.. >

Trash talking is fun; toxicity isn’t. >

all we need is after game lobbies to stay and open voice chat >

I find it entertaining in some ways. When someone gets so pissed they have to pop off with ridiculous insults and trash talk, I just laugh >

Think that's common people just don't want to admit it that openly >

And yk what? Back then it never even translated to real life behavior. >

I miss it too theres too much censorship now, plus the ability to report people who said mean words in chat that result is banns or suspensions. >

I think shit talking is fine, but it's when people start looking at other people's stat profiles and tearing them down is when it gets gross for me. >

Rules of online trashtalking 1) Never start first 2) Never trashtalk people who will get it very personal (you will feel bad). Otherwise, when some bozo opens voice chat - open fire. Its like the place where i can just free my inner child and talk nonsense >

Yesss league is the best, there will be random flames 90% of your games and if there isn’t you can easily start something and someone will get the ball rolling >

I usually talk shit cus its nice to see little kids get angry and all, usually I'm in vc while being toxic to someone and me and my buds laugh our asses off >

Gamer assholes like you (and gamers in general) can kiss my ass.
I don't need multiplayer crap, all i need are good singleplayer games. >

My brother yells and trash talks 24/7 Im trying to study for college exams, and sleep.
It drives me crazy. I just want peace and quiet. >

Everyone hating when i Say that i like griefing in gta 5 (not cargo,Just killing and making them rage) but i Always have a ton of fun >

Yeah that mixed with griefing the absolute hell out of somebody until they leave. Funny as all hell. >

The toxicity in online gaming is just entertaining, especially when it's between two team mates >

A great release, bad day at work? Take it out on noobmaster69 for quick scoping you. >

Xbox vc was packgod on steroids >

Congrats, you are part of the reason I deactivate the chat in all online games. >

Generally it’s kinda fun pissing off someone, but if you’re playing competitive there’s nothing more annoying than someone being a bad sport or generally annoying in some way >

To each their own. I never liked coming home from toxicity (school/work) then getting online and having to deal with it again. It's like you can never escape it. That's why I rarely if ever use the mic on games and/or leave game chat on. >

Talking shit during online games is how I get pumped to shoot more zombies >

To be fair, it’s entertaining at the least >

This is probably not as unpopular as I would like to think, but this attitude is c**t behaviour. >

I play Elder Scrolls Online; one time I ported to a fast travel point and there was a group of friends trash talking others into PvP fights, and then telling them off for their character builds and how they're for weak people and anybody can rock it. Of course, it was trash talk so it was loaded with humor and sarcasm. I played for 4+ hours that day, and I regularly ported to that location every 20 minutes for quest stuff and would just laugh. They literally just sat on the game talking shit to people, didn't do anything game related >

Codm all chat in the br mode was crazy. Glad i quit my gaming addiction though >

Halo was famous for this. >

Allow me to introduce UFC4 >

There is a diff between trash talking and straight up flaming each other and making your own team lose. Also sexism and racism plays a big role as well. While people should grow a thick skin that doesn’t change how awful some people are and shouldn’t be >

It seems like if there was ever an appropriate context that would be it. >

As a PC gamer it felt like the toxic age came out of no where. Most PC games had been co-op with really respectful communities and then cross play shows up and all these veteran console trolls show up with years of griefing experience and broken mic headsets straight outta drive-thrus. Y'all are monsters. >

Trash talking: Witty, intelligent, humorous banter.  A good example would be Jimmy Carr responding to hecklers.
Toxicity: Uncontrolled emotional outbursts made by immature, insecure idiots.  A good example would be your average Dota 2 player. >

As a woman, can’t say I feel the same way. People lose their minds when they hear a female voice on the other side and not in a good way >

Sometimes it’s funny.  Then there’s the times every other word is a racial slur >

10000% Agree, when you start typing to everyone in the game and pretending to be super angry and toxic its very fun. Much better than tryharding every game and wanting to rip your hairs out when you lose. >

Trash talking isn’t that toxic. I’ll mute anyone. But when you destroy my 1000+ hrs of work because you want to be a child, that’s toxic. Be sure my clan will come for the antagonist. When you bait and trap new players for hazing we’re personally going to have a problem. >

Been playing games for a long long time and while I agree. trash talking and toxicity are two different beasts. I might just be exhausted with it all at this point but when you're trying to Actually do something impactful in a game say like you're one of the last remaining players on a team and your dead team mates are just screaming "Bad team" or "Bad player" over and over while you're trying to clutch it's just.. nice, great. thanks for screaming in my ear for those 5 minutes.  
I might of hit the threshold for grumpy gamer lol. >

I wouldn't do it, but I do enjoy listening to banter in voice chat especially after a match, good ol cod lobbies.
Once it goes from banter to throwing/greifing or targeted harassment is where I draw the line tho. >

Well I'll give you an example, look at league of legends. It has become so toxic that people just quit the game, coz it ain't fun getting in the game to look at children coursing at each other from the lobby. It has become so bad that even riot can't fix it at this point. 
I'm someone who played since season one and about six years ago I said enough this ain't fun anymore. >

Yeah my gf hates when I play CoD but I tell her it’s normal >

"I'm so chill in real life"
Definitely beats his wife/girlfriend/cousin. >

You def sit to pee >

Haha🗿 >

same , irl I am a chill guy I respect women and dont mind gay people around me .
But dude when I queue in Valorant, actually I am not toxic bu default , most games I ll be just chill but when I have a bad game and my mental gets real downhill I become a beast ,I ll throw the game , be sexist and toxic even though I know very well I am in the wrong . >

Very unpopular. Very weird. >

You must not be black. Try shit talking on a COD forum and they hear my voice, it’s a barrage of racial slurs after that >

You got issues that you should handle even if you don't realize it, and you aren't as chill as you think. >

This is because deep down you know you want freedom of speech >

Completely agree, its part of gaming, make people rage and rage yourself, the cimpetitive game cycle. >

Idk I mute every chat on every game >

I love getting drunk as shit on my days off and talking massive shit to people in CSGO at 2am. I love the hate you get in return. Brings be back to '06
Absolutely one of my guilty pleasures >

Its fun until it happens to u lol but u gotta roll w the punches >

Oh man, inject OG MW2 lobbies into my veins. >

I don't think there's much trash talking going on these days. 
It's more just toxicity. 
Trash talking you are atleast trying to point something out that gets in the other person's head. 
Toxicity your saying stupid shit for the sake of saying it.
From wishing people to die to racist slurs. Like bruh, there's and easier way to say my k/d is trash and I'm getting carried lol >

it’s kind of pathetic if you ask me >

Shittalking is fine but when it veers into slurs and lazy insults it just stops being fun. Calling someone fat or gay isn't the peak of disses, but if you're creative it's fine. >

trash talk is fine, problem is it gets very racist very quickly >

100%. To much fun shitting on people. >

What's your gamer tag so I can block? >

If all you need is a videogame to become a toxic person then you're a toxic person in general. Plus, I get that you like it, but are you really gonna spend your life looking to feel good about yourself for literally a moment? There's plenty of things that give joy and last longer than a moment.
I got a feeling that what you're going for is the type of trash talk that's non specific to the person whose being trash talked, which can be fun with friends and when everyone is in the joke, but doing that to strangers? Naah, that's inappropriate, keep that shit to yourself if that's what you do.
Have an upvote tho. >

I love witty toxicity. Something that makes you laugh, amongst friends. What I don't like is the toxic unimaginative chavs, who just say lazy comments/insults purely to be mean. 
There's a fine line perhaps, but the difference between two funny people being toxic to each other, and someone just being hateful is clear to see. >

I mean I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment about chat lobbies being a place for shit talk but I do disagree with the sentiment that you're soo chill despite doing this. It's just making excuses and splitting hairs to justify your behavior. Either you talk poorly to people because you can, which means you're not chill or you don't do that which means you are chill. Everything else is just trying to justify "non-chill" behaviors while trying to maintain a persona and personal belief that you are a "chill" person. Which is hypocritical. 
You can enjoy doing this all you like, but this is still an active choice you're making to behave like this which means you're not chill. Just because it doesn't happen to be towards people you're face-to-face with doesn't change the fact that you still treat people like this. You take that pent up aggression and edginess and unleash it in a space where you believe this type of behavior is consequence-free and you advocate for it to remain a socially acceptable behavior. >

I miss when trash talking was creative instead of just listing off every expletive they carry in that gray matter of theirs. >

I agree but there’s definitely a difference between trash talk and harassment >

Idk, being called the n-word repeatedly for no reason hits different when you’re actually black. >

I feel like toxicity is more racist/homophobic stuff yelled in lobbies. I would consider what you’re talking about trashtalking. those two feel different to me >

So this gets 1k+ upvotes but the actual unpopular opinion gets 0?
I mean, toxicity and trash talking happens in all competitive games. This is not unpopular. >

Trash talking opponents makes sense to me. Yelling at your teammates in a game is fucking dumb. More often then not it’s counterproductive >

I have tilting problems, I just want to relax after a long day and play some games but then assholes come around and try to make everyone around them pissed off and for what purpose?? >

There are things I cannot say IRL that I could just unleash in online gaming. I love trash talking enemies >

Honestly, I loved the toxicity in online shooters. I'm absolute garbage at trash talk.
Back in the Halo 3 and mw2 days, nothing made my day better than coming home and hearing my pro shit talker buddy absolutely demolish guys. Even the ones who whooped our ass in game had no chance. 
Now, league of legends? I can't stand toxicity on that game, because it's almost always from your own team. >

This is what I've been saying for years I don't mind it at all, for reference I don't view trash talking, flaming or tea bagging etc.. as "toxic". The only thing I view as actually toxic is throwing, sabotaging, smurfing etc... People are wayyyyyy too soft, just look at the Valorant subreddit, every other day there's someone crying about "tHe ToXiCiTy". Devs need to stop giving a crap about this "issue" and actually focus on getting rid off cheaters. >

I'm glad it's not just me lol. I thrive off the negativity when they say toxic insults as their last words (homophobic/racial). They don't know me or my background so it's impossible to take anything personal. Fuck your 'hard day' or chill session, go play the campaign to relax. >

Lol 😂 I do miss the old Xbox lobby chats, straight shit talking for hours >

The latest cod release has brought it back in all its glory >

Call of Duty and Halo started off the toxic gamer movement. I found my old 360, I started smiling thinking about all the ungodly names I was called in the lobbies. If only my mom knew how many people they said fucked her. >

When I was 12 a drunk 40 year old told me he'd cut my head off and shit down my neck. Glorious, online gaming was just glorious. >

Lol you can’t recreate these memories >

The MW 2 call of duty lobbies were hilarious ngl. When someone would be using noob tubes or the overpowered duel 1887 shotguns. Good times. >

This is exactly what I thought of. I’m not a big mic user but I’ll toss it on for some COD grind and trash talk >

Trash talking was one thing that I didn't mind. 
But toxic gaming communities have gone way beyond that. 
I've got like 3000 hours on Dota 2 and matchmaking is literally a roll of the dice to see which team has less griefers on their side. 
It's dogshit and a waste of everyone's time. A little shit talk back and forth back in the day raised the stakes of the game but now most of the shit talk is your own team. It's not just that way for Dota either, all MOBAs are the same. >

Shit-talking for a few seconds in between lobbies is okay, but completely tearing down teammates or harassing someone specifically is never a good look. >

It's especially painful in games like Dota where communication is key to winning, games are long, and you get punished if you leave. 
Sometimes its literal BS from minute 1 and it can go on for an hour. >

Trash talk on the other team can be fun but it's usually just so bitter and spiteful that it makes me uncomfortable. Like I dont wanna hear 2 kids yell at each other over a USB mic for an entire match >

Nobody likes actual toxicity
Edit: Other than really shitty people who as this guy says like seeing people rage quit >

Because of the inevitable toxic person in every lobby I just 'mute all' at the beginning of each match. 
Yeah, I could mute that one person in the lobby, but..
1) I don't wanna be faffing about mid-game to mute a specific person
2) The context of other chat is lost when you can't hear part of the 'conversation"
I'd love to have chat on, it would be cool if people could talk about the game or discuss tactics, give callouts etc. But I'm not into hearing kids losing their shit and insulting people and their moms. >

Try Squad. Good comms there usually. >

I played Squad for a bit, maybe it's just my bad luck, but I always ended up with keyboard warriors who acted like it was real life and not just a game. Other than that it was fun, but for fucks sake, I already lived a warzone once or twice, I don't wanna do it in a damn game as well... >

aaaalot of vets play >

I know that, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not real life, and that too many people treat it like it is >

I enjoy trash talking, but only when playing with people I know. Insulting strangers is bad, insulting your homies can be fun. >

insulting the homies is my favorite past time but i’m so nice to strangers lmao >

Halo 2 lobbies back in the day were a different breed >

Lmao “i’m the nicest person you’ll meet until you get on my gaming side” >

Especially squeakers w/ cheap mic or headset >

Toxic gamers enjoy toxicity? Who knew? >

It's part of the reason single player games have made a comeback, so good. Fuck online games. >

I'm so glad campaign style and open world games are making a come back over battle Royale bullshit. >

I find both to be fun. BR’s for adrenaline and competition. Single players for relaxation >

I just played through resident evil 7. That is not a relaxing game. >

So you like having a 10 year old kid (who sounds like Fred) scream through his dollar store mic and blow out your speakers/headphones? OK… >

If you generalize it like that, no, but if you contextualize it to like where the kid is bitching and to the point of absolute feral cries because he keeps getting spawn-killed, then yes. It's like in a game of monopoly where you have three properties in two corners and your friend keeps landing on them. >

schadenfreude
That's the word you're looking for. >

Didn't even know there was a word for this, appreciate it. >

I think this is half of reddit. People just come here and enjoy being insufferable assholes to anyone about anything. >

I think there's a difference between trash talking and toxicity.
trash talking or light taunting to make your competitor lose focus is a little bit of a lost art and can be done in a funny and clever way without toxicity, racism, or bigotry. 
unfortunately these days a lot of people confuse trash talk with being straight up toxic and shouting racial slurs or trying to make your opponents so upset on a personal level that they quit playing. you're not even a gamer if you do that because you're not there to play games at that point, you're just a bully. >

Fr there’s a difference between saying “gg ez” and “KYS N-word” lol. Some people don’t know the difference.
I’ve been told the most disgusting nasty horrible things by some guys in games bc I’m a girl. It feels very different being personally targeted as opposed to some idiot just saying “y’all trash” or whatever haha.
(For the record, I don’t endorse either but I do think they’re very different things) >

10000% agree with this 
Trash talking someone for their skill/poor performance is one thing 
resorting to sexism, homophobia, racism, etc and other such personal attacks should always be condemned >

There's a difference between trash talking or teabagging and throwing around slurs in chat. A vast majority of people wouldn't consider a little trash talk toxic, it's toxic when you blame your team for everything and tell them to kill themselves, it's toxic when you call someone on the enemy team the hard R. >

The hard R? Rigger? >

Hacker >

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!
[chat disabled for 5 seconds] >

And you're the reason they got rid of proximity chat and teamspeak in all games and everybody uses party chat now. >

Trash talking is different than toxicity. Trash talking is an art and when done correctly it is a tool to get into an enemy's head. Toxicity is just unclever and gross, usually racist, and just isn't fun. When you trash talk and get talked back to there is a rhythm and comradery that makes the game more fun. Toxicity is just name calling and usually doesn't have any cleverness or thought you it, it's aimed to emotionally attack the other person rather than be a strategic attack to get in their head and throw off their game. >

Trash talking can be great for shutting down some toxic assholes.
Get in a good jab and a lot of them just shut up.
Those that don't, or those that play music over the chat, etc, then it's time for a block/mute.
Unfortunately, there is a fragile portion of the populace that thinks it is all "toxic".  Even worse, a lot of them are Johnny-come-latelies with an outsized ego and think the world should conform to their sensibilities, which makes them toxic in their own right.  They're often just as bad or even worse than your typical random insulting trolls because they do it with clarity of conscience.
I call it "the bully loophole".  When you're so "anti-bully" that you allow yourself to be nasty and vitriolic without any sort of limitation, especially not accurate judgement of others.  Anyone who crosses their path is a potential target to be hounded. >

You like being toxic online because it has zero recourse, just an outlet for you to be an asshole. >

Pretty much yes. >

I'm the guy who will mute voice chat immediately upon playing an online game for the first time, but this is a pretty popular opinion. At the very least, it's very popular for people who use voice chat to be trashtalking douchebags >

I’m sure it’s fun for you but it’s just annoying to listen to and we all mute you.  Like calm down it’s literally just cod. we’re all playing the same game and you’re the only one that’s screaming the same recycled jokes over and over and over again. it just makes you look stupid tbh. do it if you want but it’s not making you look as cool as you feel lol >

it's just a game brother >

I know!  I'm so smart! Where's my cookie? >

I don’t mind it but I don’t get to hear it cause of those idiots blasting music in their shitty mics. Why is that so popular? >

For ps5 a lot of mfs just forget to mute the controller >

the toxicity is why i avoid the cesspool of high school teenagers that play trending games. miss me with that waste of energy >

Eh, I used to like it too when I was somewhat competitive. Now I'm not and it just makes me roll my eyes hearing people take something so silly, so seriously. >

Valorant and league suck. The toxic community is the game. >

Yeah yeah, it's great
cries in Apex Legends >

its not even that bad. In plat rank when people actually use game chat I have a good time. Id rather have everyone use gamechat and rarely get a asshole then 90% of poeple having it off. Plus you can just mute assholes or do the arguable better thing and mess with them. >

Gaming. The worlds largest waste of time and energy. >

Bad take. >

I like it and I don't care when it happens to me because cyber bullying isn't real just close your eyes lol. I miss the days of playing fighting games on Xbox live and getting hate mail after absolutely smoking someone, it was like winning twice >

Just a few weeks ago, I was playing injustice 2 and I was in a match against this guy who kept spamming a certain move as red hood to keep me stun-locked and try and get a cheap win. I somehow managed to get a lucky hit in and beat him and I was so upset, I trash talked for the first time in like 6 years and said “get fucked, you move-spamming scrub”. Felt good lol >

You like it because you like the sense of superiority. You're not fighting your opponent, you're battling your insecurities. >

Or...it's just fun to get inside people's heads. Have you heard about how Micheal Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq trashtalked opponents? It's part of any competitive game. 
People trashtalk because it's fun being the best. >

These people never played sports >

Trash talk is okay. Toxic being an asshole is exactly that. >

And it’s people like you who are the reason certain video game communities don’t grow. >

Most of reddit is just as toxic >

Trash talking is one thing, but I just got harassed when I was gaming as a child. >

how so? >

That sounds more like a community / server issue rather than a game issue. If you just play matchmaking you wouldn't come against the same people regularly enough for them to 'care' about hurting you. I never met the same person twice personally in any game that don't have dedicated servers (so like, most shooters) >

Kinda, but it goes along with gaming. >

I mean you can shit talk without being a garbage person. >

I agree honestly. A little trash talk is fun. Makes you feel like you’re really interacting with other people instead of playing against robots. In CS:GO, voice chat is an enormous part of the game for a reason. >

Bring back half time voice chat !! >

i'm sensitive as fuck. in solos i don't mind it but i hate possibly ruining the game for others when i'm in a team game >

i agree, it's like having a funny show just for you >

Same here. It heightens the experience. I am the most toxic player of all time. According to league only the worst 0.0002% get banned for verbal abuse. And I have been banned 5 times. >

i like it when everyone is on the same wavelength and everyone is bagging on each other, but often it’s one person that ruins it. >

I sort of agree up to a point. But if you’re in your 30’s and you’re trash talking 14 year olds over Xbox live…ehhh…kinda cringe. >

This really tells a lot about your personality and morals. That's another person, a human being, at the other end of your game. How are you ok with making someone feel like shit? Sure the game is fun for you but you've just made it a terrible experience for someone else. You know who does that? Narcissistic abusers. >

Genuinely, most people don't take offense to trash talk over video games. >

Banter trash talk? Sure. Purposely provoking someone to rage quit? Psychotic. >

It depends on the degree of toxicity and how it's handled in terms of the game. Take GTA Online for example. It is amusing if done right. Where an entire lobby can turn against one griefer. And Griefers are fun to fuck with on that game too. >

There’s nothing wrong with trash talking if it’s all in good fun. It’s when it goes to racist, sexist bigoted garbage that it becomes a true problem. >

Wait until the racist 12 year old boots your internet for 5 minutes with a free ip stresser >

i like it too. and for mostly one reason. i'm sick of everyone trying to be nice to everyone all the time. half of the shit people say like this is just passive aggressive...which is worse than actual aggression. i fucking love the ability to just talk shit...cuz...it doesn't fucking matter. >

Gamers are one of the biggest reasons I don’t like video games lol >

Translation: " it's the only thing I'm good at in life and it's all I have. Just let me have this please!" >

It's definitely an unpopular opinion. Can't we just be nice to one another :p >

OP - "I like being mean to people, I like environments where i am socially allowed to br mean to people. It sucks when it happens to you but whatcha gonna do, i extract pleasure from other pain. It makes me feel good when other people get upset. Why dont people like hanging out with me?" >

Usually though everyone is shit talking each other so you're not really "extracting pleasure from others pain" in that case. The peak of the shit talking can only occur if both parties are participating, since then you need to ramp up the insults. >

I agree, there is nothing more fun than someone swearing at you after you’ve beat them.  Even if you lose their taunts are hilarious >

same guy that cries and bitches when he loses >

Yeah it’s music to my ears. I find those moments to be some of the most memorable >

People are too soft. There is a mute button, but instead, everyone rather be a victim. >

Some games dont have lol