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Marilyn Monroe was indeed a product of her time, with Hollywood glamour and a larger-than-life persona that captivated audiences. However, her talent as an actress and singer should not be overlooked. She left a lasting impact on pop culture and remains an icon to this day. What makes her truly remarkable is the way she transcended her circumstances and broke barriers for women in the entertainment industry.
She didnt grow old and age horribly like Madonna.  There are no ugly pictures, no stupid instagram posts to judge her.
Any/all celebrities who die young will be overvalued and overpraised.
She's 'rated' by the standards of her day because that's all there is to look at. >

This. Even when we're looking beyond their appearance, the young dead will always be revered. Take Kurt Cobain. His music was absolutely incredible and his social views were ahead of the curve to a point where they are easily applied to today's day-in-age. Realistically had he survived the 90s we would likely have a slew of less than quality projects and some cancelable actions/words/behaviors following him around. >

Here's a quote by Ella Fitzgerald regarding Marilyn.
“I owe Marilyn Monroe a real debt … she personally called the owner of the Mocambo, and told him she wanted me booked immediately, and if he would do it, she would take a front table every night. She told him – and it was true, due to Marilyn’s superstar status – that the press would go wild.
“The owner said yes, and Marilyn was there, front table, every night. The press went overboard. After that, I never had to play a small jazz club again. She was an unusual woman – a little ahead of her times. And she didn’t know it.”  MS magazine. August 1972.
It's inaccurate to say she is overrated. True, she was a flawed person. Her childhood was awful and she dealt sexual abuse, abandonment, and trauma from her schizophrenic mother. She got married at 16 to avoid going to an orphanage. She struggled with addiction and depression, failed marriages and public shaming of her love life, and in the end pills took her life.
But, she also used her power to fight against injustices. She was incredibly intelligent, but had the misfortune to be born in a time when intelligence wasn't valued in women, so she hid that under a ditsy blonde and sex symbol. She called out the rampant sexism in Hollywood and the casting coach. She walked off a set when she discovered Sinatra was making 3x her salary. She started her own production company. As shown above, she took an active stance against the rampant racism of the period.
Marilyn deserves the cultural icon status she's acquired, and maintains 60 years after her death. Look at the uproar when Kim Kardashian wore her dress to the Met. I find it hard to imagine her as overrated. (Edit-grammar) >

I think the uproar about Kim K wearing her dress makes the perfect case for Marilyn being an overrated cult of personality, imo. 
Kim K is the Marilyn of her time. You say that out loud and her fans literally foam at the mouth - but it's true. Kim K is a wealthy, famous woman who is considered by many the most beautiful woman of her time. She is the equivalent. 
People see the dress as arrogant of her. I think this is illuminating, as not only did Kim look fantastic in it, she carried herself with grace and treated the history of the garment with respect. She divorced her husband, who treated her poorly, and went to law school. She's certainly privileged, but she's an agent in her life in a way that Marilyn wanted for all women. 
It's telling that Marilyn's fans hate Kim so much for that when, had she been alive, Marilyn herself would have probably loved the idea. >

Bob Mackie himself said said Kim wearing that dress was a huge mistake and it was never intended to be worn by anybody but Marilyn. Nobody thinks it was respectful or appropriate, it was nothing but a publicity stunt. And Kim is absolutely not in law school. There are also zero similarities in their come ups, Marilyn came from abject poverty. >

Exactly. That dress was literally sewn onto Marilyn, and one was on the last iconic things she wore before her death a few months later. It was hugely disrespectful for Kim to wear it. >

Tbf tho, most celebrities are overrated 🤷🏻‍♀️ >

people make fun of parasocial twitch relationships but people have been cringe and worshipping strangers they'd never meet since screens were invented. instead of a divine right of kings they're chosen by angry karens who need you to know how much more of an impact Kim K has had than MLK >

Your film number is off. She was in 29 films. She's an icon, her personal life notwithstanding. >

Marilyn Monroe isn’t overrated - she is a brand. Literally. She (as intellectual property) is owned by Authentic Brands Group and that is why we see her image on everything all the time. It is not something the woman chose for herself. >

So the Kardashians are a brand according to your logic. >

Yes, the Kardashians made themselves a brand on purpose. >

Nah. She was gorgeous and seemed like a sweet girl.. A tragic life we see over and over again, Sid Vicious, Amy Winehouse, Elvis, Kurt Cobain, James Dean,  young, iconic, gifted, beautiful but doomed... >

Yeah it's true. 
Natalie Portman has done everything Marilyn did without having any of it gift wrapped for her as Marilyn did, and then she went and got her PhD and became an activist on top of everything else. 
Marilyn gets her star partly because the time period's racism and sexism put her centre star (ahead of her black contemporaries, who were all excellent singers). 
In defence of Marilyn, she also thought this was bullshit and used her influence to fight it, but there have been a lot of women worth celebrating over the course of the 20th century, the fixation upon MM at this point is ridiculous. >


"Natalie Portman has done everything Marilyn did without having any of it gift wrapped for her as Marilyn did, and then she went and got her PhD and became an activist on top of everything else."  
Natalie Portman had stable, well-off parents who didn't mentally abuse her but supported her emotionally, and financially.    
The only thing Marilyn got gift wrapped was abuse and mental illness. >

I like Marilyn Monroe but I agree >

She used her celebrity status to get bookings for Ella Fitzgerald to sing in the Mocambo Club, which help launch her career. Good enough for me, have  you seen "Ssome like it Hot"? > >

I disagree. It's the cult of Marilyn Monroe worship that's overrated. The same thing can be said of Elvis Presley. >

I agree with you, but I thought that that's just cause I'm not from USA. >

Even if you had been American, there are how many other American actresses? >

This thread is wild. Marilyn Monroe was a beautiful woman, even without makeup she was adorable. Amazing body too. I guarantee if she were alive during this time and walked into a room, jaws would drop and people would be saying 'Kim who?". She had the "it" factor, star quality. I don't consider myself a fan and even I can see that. >

She is a brand that's why. I agree with you, she was not a 9 and also didn't have much sex appeal. If it was today even a d list celeb would obliterate her >

For her time, she was amazing. Judging her by today's standards is completely unfair. She was a doll back then. >

For the time she brought reclaimed sexuality and a classic type of beauty to the wider public. The thing is now we see this sexuality all the time with women being sexual liberated so it’s hard to see why she was any different, but at the time she was a bombshell. 1950s was a totally different era >

Another (this artist/celebrity) is overrated post. SNOOZEFEST 😴boring >

She had a lot more then 4 movies. At least if you shit on someone research the facts of your argument. And she was not a nice person, because she supposedly cheated on her husband/s? >

i couldn’t agree more, anyone who idolizes her gives me the ick >

Have you seen Some Like It Hot though? >

She was attractive enough, but I've seen drag queens look just like her with enough makeup.
I think like most celebrities, she was the product of really good marketing telling people who to like. >

There's a cult of personality, too. 
Most celebrities are products of good marketing, but now and then you'll get one like Johnny Depp that has such a recognizable profile and style that it becomes embedded in cultural memory. Marilyn Monroe was one of those. >

She slept with the right people, she died way too young and mysteriously. There’s no way she took all the drugs they claimed took her out. But who killed her will never be known. >

Actually speculation was that she was going to go public on JFK and Robert Kennedy, so Bobby paid her a visit at her home. Bobby was spotted in a helicopter in LA the same day of her death. Coincidence? I'm not sure. >

I’m sure the Kennedys got her. >

I think so too. Apparently people can't handle speculation and downvote me. Jerks. >

They don’t want to hear the truth. Let the sheeple lie >

Marilyn is an all time babe >

I just have to say that Funky Town does indeed slap. >

IDK why anyone would argue this. She was the original plastic surgery sex icon. She was mid pre plastic surgery she was pretty post-surgery. She's still nothing but the kennedy's glazed donut hole.
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Lets go over the facts. 
Her acting was not great.
She had no talent.
Her fame and overrated status came from being the Fbuddy of high value men. Plus, we all know she slept her way to make her way in Hollywood.