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So the cop never saw a gun or never got a description of the shooter. He just saw a guy running away from the area and decided “he’s the shooter” and shoots him in the back. Great police work there bud. >

guess we gotta start speed walking away from one of the 4 mass shooting per week >

stay in the area and get shot by an active shooter or run away from the area and get shot by the police
such is life in the USA >

Or stop the mass shooter and get killed by the cops as they arrive >

Or escape from the killer...run to the cops for help and get gunned down as soon as they see you >

Or escape from everything, get a dog, settle into a life with your trauma being managed then have your dog shot by the cops for being three yards over from the guy who's being delivered a court order >

Or be in traffic when cops surround a nearby delivery truck and fire blindly, killing the driver and shooting several of the civilians they were using as cover >

Guys GUYS, remember... "This was an isolated incident." Nothing to see here. Or here. Or over here. Keep them eyes shut. >

Just a few bad apples. >

Jesus Christ THEY got arrested that is so fucked up >

They’re lucky to only have been arrested for knocking on a door. Which I guess is a crime. Could’ve been much worse. >

You mean lucky they got arrested for being shot at. The absolute nerve of them! Being on the receiving end of all those bullets, the audacity! >

It’s so gross. How do these pigs look themselves in the mirror everyday and tell themselves “I’m the good guy?”. It’s shocking >

I think deep down they know they're all pieces of shit but don't care. >

I think if they let us allocate where our tax dollars actually went, like a little list with checkboxes, they’d be shocked that we would indeed “defund the police” and probably the military to some degree and education would probably get 10x the funding leading to a well educated population that would most likely require a lot less “policing”. 🤷🏻‍♂️ >

That title is a gross understatement of what actually happened.

The charges stem from a June 2022 incident in which Moravek saw the victim, who is not identified in the charging documents, run past him soon after hearing gunshots. Moravek shouted for the person to drop the gun before firing, striking him in the back.
Platkin said the person did not have a gun in his possession or within reach. A firearm was found near the site of the shooting, according to the charging document, but Platkin said there was no DNA or fingerprint evidence linking it to the man.

That guy wasn't a criminal, just running away after hearing gun-shots and the officer didn't even warn him. Just started chasing and shot him. >

Cool, so you can’t even run from gunshots without an agent of the state deciding to shoot you. >

It would seem that there are no longer any measurable criteria. The decision whether or not to shoot is entirely arbitrary. >

Cop is afraid = cops shoot. 
Oh and cops are afraid of EVERYTHING. >

Cops are the biggest pussies. Anyone remember how LAPD shot round after round at two tiny Asian women because they were scared that they might be one big black dude? >

Two small ladies in a grey Dodge single cab, because they might be a big black man in a blue Toyota crew cab ...
And they were ruled justified. >

And that was just one of two completely different trucks police shot up during the Dorner fiasco. The other driver was at least a man, but he was cleared by one officer, and drove down the road a little bit. A different officer then rammed his pickup and opened fire, with several other officers joining in. Fortunately they missed the driver, unlike the two old ladies who were shot and injured.
These officers also faced no consequences. >

The US really needs a federal minimum hiring and training requirement for police officers across the board for every state. There is zero reason why there needs to be a ten week police academy in some states yet a 6 month one in others. It would weed out some of these issues. >

If I had to go to school for 4 years just to fucking use excel and work with numbers, 10 weeks/6 months is not enough fucking time to spit out a cop who can literally end lives whenever they want (apparently). They should also be going to a 4 year school, learning psychology, law, as well as anything pertaining to being an officer of the law. >

Some departments require bachelor's degrees.  They also pay jack shit.
The issue isn't so much the quantity of training they receive.  It has a lot more to do with the mentality and perspective they are taught.  Not to mention all the copaganda they were raised on.  They actually believe they are heroes.  
Hell, I know a lot of people who think cops are heroes, mainly because of their portrayal in the media. >

Jack shit? What's the lowest pay, because it seems like police salaries start at $90k >

Depends entirely on the state/city.  Some pay extremely well, others pay shit.  Out of curiosity I looked up the city in this news story, Paterson New Jersey, their pay is awful.  They start at $33,800.  That's $16.25 an hour.  I don't know what the cost of living is there, but there is no way that is a good wage. >


Total pay: $117,001

Damn! I should change professions. That's more than double my pay. >


"During a short foot chase, there came a time when Officer Moravek believed his life and the life of other people in the street was at risk. He believed at that split-second that the person he was chasing was turning to fire that handgun at him and he realized that if he missed, the bullets could strike anyone nearby," the statement read.

What actually happened: the cop tried to give chase but after 100 ft he got tired and just shot the person running and then made up all that shit about being "afraid for his life and the safety of others" because that's the cheat code cops use to avoid scrutiny. >

Didn’t avoid it this time. I really hope the accountability continues to go up. I feel like we are seeing some rare moments in police accountability. It’s really just scratching the surface, but it’s way more than we’ve seen the past few years. >

This is the one positive take-away for me. The cop was investigated and is being charged. All of which is the result of new policies put in place of 2020 requiring stricter scrutiny in the review of officer shootings. 
Baby steps are frustrating, but progress is nonetheless progress. >

Charged with a slap on the wrist. >

Potentially multiple 10-year prison sentences >

“In Paterson that’s just the way things go
If you’re black
You might as well not show up on the street
Unless you wanna draw the heat.”
Some things never change. Damn. >

Botham and Breonna showed that even staying home doesn't help sometimes >

When protecting people means you gotta just, you know, just get out there and kill ‘em, you know? How can we protect people if we don’t shoot them? Can’t be done. We gotta.
Obligatory /s >

Cops don't protect people. Cops don't protect people. How many times do I have to beat this drum? COPS DON'T PROTECT PEOPLE.
They are enforcers, not protectors. >

Disagree, they protect themselves very well, and only them. >

Reminds me of how at uvalde one of the cops was talking shit about the parents whose kids were being killed being barred from entry by the police by saying if it was their kid they would have gone in.
Edit*added some context >

That's fucking gross. Because they're not his own kids, he doesn't care?
One parent did go in, and the cops tried to stop her. >

A few cops went off to get their own kids out of the class. They didn't alert them or anything, just went in, got them, and left. They'd only find out later that the police basically left them to their potential death. >


The charges stem from a June 2022 incident in which Moravek saw the victim, who is not identified in the charging documents, run past him soon after hearing gunshots. Moravek shouted for the person to drop the gun before firing, striking him in the back.

So the cop hears gunshots, then sees someone running, and jumps to the conclusion of "Hey, this must have been the guy with the gun" and doesn't even consider that it might have been the guy getting shot at. >

Or someone who just heard shots and wanted to be far away from the situation. >

Not every cop needs a gun, they use it like hammer and everyone is a nail. >

New Jersean here. Some fucking idiot cop told my coworker that she's "lucky he didn't come in guns blazing" because she accidentally set the alarm off. Just wow, dude, you'll be the next one on the news >

Paterson is a city over 160k in population with a super corrupt police department overseen by the the county, state and federal agencies due to repeated misconduct. >

I’m happy to see cops getting charged. >

NJ is pretty good about holding police accountable relative to other states. When incidents do occur it feels like its almost always Paterson PD.
On the other hand, Paterson PD was the subject of some iconic episodes of COPS. >

Some guy is running away from gunshots and the cop shoots him?  You can't make this shit up.  You fucking can't.  
I'm a software engineer.  I had to get a degree (Applied Math).  It took me 5.5 years (money issues).  My studies included classes designed to weed people out.
If the system is designed to weed out people unqualified to program computers, why isn't it designed to weed out people who are unqualifed to shoot, taze, mace and detain people? >

The police academies and hiring process are actually going to weed out the competent ones, because they'll be the ones trying to 'fix the system'.  Can't have them rocking the boat, you see. >

Fuck that police agent, he heard a gunshot and shot at the first person he saw running... 
It could have been anyone running away from the gunfire, maybe he called for an ambulance afterward but he is not suppose to shoot on sight like this >


It could have been anyone running away from the gunfire

It was! >

How about convicted? When do we get to see a headline that says "officer convicted"? >

Good. I'd be charged if someone broke into my home and I shot them in the back as they fled. Why am I, a citizen, expected to be held to a higher standard than a trained law enforcement officer? >

It’s always strange when they say “allegedly shooting” in a situation where someone definitely got shot and no one is disputing who did the shooting. >

It’s basically to avoid getting charged with libel or somehow tainting opinion of the public, containing potential jurors. It’s kind of a blanket statement so that reporters don’t screw themselves or their employers. >

Yeah but they only do that for police. 
"A suspect was struct by gun fire in their apprehension" is one headline
"Officer shot by black man"  is what the headline would be if the roles were reversed. >


Moravek's attorney, Patrick Caserta, said in a statement that his client had been falsely accused. He said the officer had a duty to pursue the person he thought had fired shots.

Duty to pursue? Sure, maybe, although seeing a person running from the sound of gunfire seems like a pretty fucking normal response. Duty to shoot in the back without cause or even a warning? Uh yeah, that's gonna be a no from me dawg. >

Things you shouldn't do during a shooting (or any violent crime, really), because if you do these things, the cops might kill you:


Shoot the shooter (aka be the "good guy with a gun")


Pick up the gun


Run from the scene of the shooting 


Hide from the assailant 


Be held hostage >

Fuck the way that the AP reports on police shootings.   "The police shot and killed the assailant.  A 14-year-old girl was also struck and died."   
The officer shot and killed two people.  Just fucking report it that way. >

So many comments saying that cops need more training are missing the point: The training IS the problem.
“The most effective way to stop someone is to fire a bullet into his central nervous system. It is up to God and the paramedics as to whether the man dies. Your job is to stop the deadly threat, and the most effective way to do that is to make the threat die.”
“Any natural or learned resistance to killing, any sense of the sanctity of human life, any human emotions, any remorse or compassion at the moment of truth can all be overcome and overwhelmed with training,”
These are quotes from the training that a huge number of police departments use.  Just google: ”Dave Grossman" >

Here's a different approach
Depending on locale, it take 6 month of academy time to become a cop in the US.
In the UK, its 3 years. 
France, 1 year for a basic officer. You go back to school for Inspector or Gendarmerie.
Spain, 1 year of academy and 1 year of on-the-job for 'Guardia Civil'
Germany, 21 month Theoretical training and 15 months Practical training.
Italy, 4 years of university level training 
​
What I think is that they need more training. The 6 months  just aint caracking it. >

It's almost like decades of indoctrinating police into a mentality of "us versus them" and creating an environment that imagines all citizens as dangerous terrorists has made police fearful and prone to exacerbating fight or flight reactions in non hostile situations. >

Legalities aside, when did it become ok to be a fucking coward and shoot at people running? I see it as no different than the little shit bags that sucker punch people in the head from behind. >

When the courts started telling them that they aren't going to get in any trouble for it. >

From the article :
Video released from the incident shows Moravek asking the person he shot why he ran from him.
"I was scared. I don't have no gun, though" he said.
An officer afraid for his life because a man is running away. This whole "he didn't obey my command to stop" is such bullshit. If he's not shooting at you or others HE IS NOT A THREAT. I guess we're lucky Mr. Policeman didn't shoot every bystander within earshot. Because clearly everyone is potentially armed and going to shoot to kill all policepersons! 
I'm guessing this was another incident of running while black. They didn't identify the victim though so we can't be sure... >

Shooting just the one bystander is bad enough. >

Yes it is! >

Cops are publicly subsidized mercenaries who protect wealthy people, the irony. >

They do the crime, we pay the fine >

Ancient Chinese Police Proverb: kill em all >

As soon as I saw NJ, knew it had to be my hometown. Paterson, same police department that gave us the cop who beat up a suicidal man cuffed to a hospital bed. He filed a $4mil lawsuit against the city and was later found dead in his apartment of apparent suicide. Given his history, it’s a possibility but I wouldn’t rule out foul play either. There are so many more stories involving police and civilians too, they just don’t get as much attention. There’s a family that is petitioning for information on one of their loved ones, who was last seen in custody of Paterson PD. The cops claim they dropped him off at the Great Falls, in freezing weather and with no jacket. He’s still missing to this day and the police are of no help to this family. >

Cops should carry insurance.  Just like doctors. >

I can’t even imagine those premiums >

Bad cops won’t be able to afford to being cops anymore.  Why should the tax payer get sued for the misconduct of police officers.  This will weed out the bad cops by itself. >

Their union will do anything they can (even shady stuff) to make the taxpayers pay that too >

Destroy the police unions. Period. >

Probably wasn't even fleeing, just out for a run. Best cover they could come up with >

I hate that I read this headline and I immediately think to myself “which one?” >

I like the use of  allegedly. Does the victim have a bullet wound matching the round fired from the police officers firearm? Than it isn't allegedly >

The real problem isn't "allegedly", it's news orgs knowing that most people skim titles, and phrasing this one in the least condemning way they could have.
This isn't "Cop shoots unarmed person running away", it's "Cop shoots innocent bystander who is running away from an active shooter" 
It's significantly worse than the title makes it sound. Just saying "fleeing" makes it sound like the person was running from the cop. >

"The sight of the suspect's back appearing to get smaller as he ran away, made me fear for my life, and I felt compelled to fire" -- Bad Cops Everywhere >

I’m more surprised when a day goes by that I don’t see cops behaving in heinous, cowardly  ways. >

No wonder people are running from the police.  You can get shot if you run, you can  get shot or beaten up if you don't run. >

Cops should have a fundamental understanding of the constitution that informs every decision they make. They should proooooobably be pre-law undergrads, at least. Or, better yet, we should make a standardized “Policing” degree. >

Jersey cops are the worst in the country. Hold those asshole accountable >

It’s pretty safe at this point that if an officer is involved then assume they’re guilty. >


Paterson Mayor Andre Sayegh said in a statement that a preliminary review found that Moravek followed guidelines while responding to a service call and after hearing gunshots fired.

Police guidelines when responding to shots fired is to fire shots at anyone trying to flee the danger... Brilliant police work there. I guess we have to shoot between dying by an active shooter or dying by active cop. >

Too many cops would rather shoot you than get a good cardio work out just for running. Problem is they've been proven time and time again as murderers, so I can understand the running, as opposed to people supposedly in charge of protecting us just murdering us in the streets. >

Seems to me the state should give the victim a gun, and tell the cop to run. If he gets hit, oh well. >

full body cam before and after
Video of the incident where the cop blatantly lies for his body cam about seeing the victim with a gun. The gun is found about a block away and around the corner from where the cop started chasing the guy for no reason other than he was running. 
Edit: fixed link >

people who are running away are literally not a threat
any sane person would run from the cops >

So as long as the cop THOUGHT he was a criminal it’s okay to shoot him in the back? Pretty f*cked policing if you ask me. Cops become cops do they can legally shoot people without consequences. Really need to send a message and start sending these guys to prison for long periods of time. Either that or burn down the system from top to bottom and start educating these people about what to serve and protect should mean. >

since all cops think they are at war with the general public, at what point will we the general public wage war back at them? are we going to continue as shooting practice for these pigs, or do something about it? just wondering… >

Start filming every interaction.  Preferably on a platform that saves to the cloud so they cannot just delete the footage off your phone.  Then file a lawsuit when they violate your rights. >

Police in America are scared little children, with the intelligence of a toddler.
Some things that must happen to fix the problem:
1.remove qualified immunity.
2.all officers must spend a minimum of 30 days undercover inside a jail.
3.officers must provide their own incidental insurance, just like doctors.
4.all officers should be rotating in and out of patrol duty. >

Love it. Numbers 1 and 3 would definitely do the trick. >

He's gonna 100% charge the police force some money. The bullet fragments hit his spine and he hasn't been able to walk. Wtf dude. >

and it encourages them to be armed.. and shoot back.. which encourages more of this insanity, but hey lets keep trying the same ole bullshit over and over, as long as we dont change, its got to work eventually, right?
we have one side with ideas, not always the best but at least they have ideas, and another side with hopes and prayers that things will get better. Well i can hope and pray all day long that my house will clean myself but in reality it actually takes effort. >

Why are cops so scared? >

Can someone explain to me why running from police = death sentence? Especially if one is just running and has no weapon? >

Shooting someone in the back should immediately immediately fire you and put you up on charges. >

Maybe if police stopped seeing other citizens as enemies and threats, they wouldn't be so eager to kill them?
Every single cop I've interacted with in the wild has been an ass for no reason. Even when it wasn't during a pull-over. I wonder why that is? >

Why are cops so stupidly gunho?
So many videos of cases where they could've easily let the perp go and then found him at home or elsewhere, yet they risk everything and put every in danger for their "hero" moves. >

Charged =/= Convicted so I’m not holding my breath on this one >

But what if he got away? He might have been guilty of something! >


"During a short foot chase, there came a time when Officer Moravek believed his life and the life of other people in the street was at risk. He believed at that split-second that the person he was chasing was turning to fire that handgun at him

Your life is at the mercy of someone's beliefs >

Fuck the police, they are nothing but gang members. >

He feared for his life so it was best to shoot someone in the back. He’s probably going to get a medal for this. It’s not easy to shoot someone in his back especially when aiming for his head >

Are US cops psychotic or psychopathic? >


state filed charges of second-degree aggravated assault and official misconduct against Paterson Police Officer Jerry Moravek.

Isn’t attempted manslaughter a crime? Attempted murder? How is this just an assault charge - if you shoot an unarmed person in the back as they’re fleeing, you’re shooting with intent to kill… >

Every day cops are told by their supervisors that anything that moves will kill them. >

This is why police shoot to kill, dead people can't argue with whatever lies the police come up with to justify premeditated murder. >

NJ cops just doing NJ cop things. >

Can’t wait to see this cop become a public school teacher in Baltimore >

Fucking prezbo >

Fuck these cops!! I do not understand why we are not just burning police stations to the ground at this point.  They’re a racist, heavily armed gang. I literally do not worry about any MS13/Blood/Crips whatever. But cops make me nervous as fuck. They’re terrified of everything and if they’re scared (which they permanently are) they’re allowed to just execute whoever they want and the rest of their gang will back them up. I used to hate the idea of cameras everywhere (cuz 1984 was supposed to be fiction!) but now I feel we need them everywhere so that our parents know what actually happened when we get gunned down by these murderous psychopaths!!🤷🏻‍♂️ remember when a cop was physically able to run and tackle a suspect for whatever? Now they’re so lazy while also being terrified that they just shoot instead. They’re out there hunting people every day. >

He'll get a month of pain vacation and a raise. >

A month of pain doesn’t sound like much of a vacation >

No, it’s a a typo.
It was supposed to be pain medication. >

They charged him? He must have shot a white guy. >

The gun they did find near him was most def a drop gun that cops carry around to place at a crime scene after they shoot an unarmed man. He shot that poor guy and put the drop gun there to try and get out of the consequences by framing him.
What a total dickwipe and I hope he gets everything that's coming to him >

Anyone loving the fact police officers are finally being held to account in many cases? Sure you have the odd holdout state like backwards ass Republican states, but by and large they’re actually getting held accountable, still not to the degree a civilian would be, but this is great. >

Problem solving. I'm not chasing anyone. >

Soo.. when are we going to stop tolerating this? >

Well, how else are you going to stop a running person? 
/s obviously.