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You realize I don’t care, yes? It’s a statement on the willingness of the US to never hesitate when it comes to spending money on killing people.
Damn. That is huge. More than €1000 per capita >

Norway makes around €130-190 bn per year on oil and gas. €60bn more in 2022 than in 2021 due to the soaring gas prices. We should give €7.3bn each year, if not more.
Source. >


€60bn more in 2022 than in 2021 due to the soaring gas prices.

Wait…according to esteemed Reddit experts in commodity trading that would mean Norway is price gouging. >

No entity on earth has the ability to raise or lower commodity prices, except possibly OPEC (even though member states are constantly cheating on their production quotas), especially not a country which produces slightly more than 2% of the world's oil. >

That would affect the price at the forecourt though >

It’s amazing to me that Norway is proposing this when I read that the population of Norway is less than the population of Minnesota (Minnesota 5.7M, Norway 5.4M). >

Norway has the world's largest sovereign wealth fund, providing a value of roughly $250,000 per Norwegian. They dumped all the surplus profits from their huge oil and gas reserves into it.
That 7 billion is pocket change for them >

Man the Scandinavian countries are lucky huh. Peaceful area full of natural resources >

Peaceful because we decided to stop fighting each other. No luck involved. >

Yes but that decision has been made centuries ago. Or am I wrong >

That decision is made every day ;) >

I thought it the enduring peace has been possible because you’re culturally similar to each other and share a considerable amount of history and genes >

Oh hell no. We've been fighting like mad for hundreds of years. >

Fighting like fighting over who’s songs are better or fighting like Russians with Ukrainians? >

Fuck yeah Norway >

Ik its a complicated situation but I’m not so sure funding war deserves a fuck yeah >

Alright don’t help Ukraine, let Russia take over >

You don’t support negotiating a peaceful resolution? >

No - I support Ukraine getting all of its people back and Russia getting zero stolen land and abducted children.
Some things are worse than war. An unjust peace is worse. Slavery is worse. Autocracy is worse. I've seen such things with my own eyes. >

Briton is also working on a 5 year aid supply to Ukraine. >

What, a single Briton? Wow. >

Hope it isn't Liz Truss >

Are you British? >

Nope, her failure is pretty well known internationally however. >

This coming a week after the press release of Norway buying new Leo2A7+ tanks to replace their aging Leo2A4NOs, pretty sure those will be ukranian a year from now. >

I think it's pretty telling that this is a multi-year commitment. Could be that the sentiment among many nations is this war will extend longer than being openly discussed. >

Even if it ended tomorrow, they would still need massive help to rebuild. For a long time. >

That's a lot of fucking money even for a large GDP nation. WTF Norway! >

Probably all that extra oil money they are getting still kudos to Norway >

That's some real money, if the rest of europe  proportionately would do the same, it would be profound. >

In my eyes it’s a good mix of good policy and plain luck. 
One thing is Norway being lucky with our natural reserves, especially oil, in relation to our population. Another lucky coincidence is the less known story of the IIRC former oil minister of Irak, who’d seen first hand how an oil industry completely controlled by the government led to the regime of Saddam Hussein, had fled said regime - to Norway - where he contacted the government just as they found oil and warned them not to go full private or state ownership/control over the industry. This led to Norway going for a hybrid model where the state and privately owned companies keep each other in check. >

Buy shit for small funds or soldiers directly. Big funds like Prytula's fund or "Come back alive" are also not controlled by government and are considered trustworthy. >

Thanks! That's the answer I was looking for. >

I disagree with your position about "corrupt and ungrateful" and think it's still useful to support this government. But if you think so and still want to help, yeah, there's your answer. Just wanted to clarify. >

I am yet to find one which cannot be described as corrupt and ungrateful in general. As far as Ukrainian government, I've noticed a wave of anti-corruption news headlines these weeks. And Zelensky made it very clear back in summer that he doesn't appreciate my contributions to UAF. >

How so? >

By instigating a massive anti-Russian campaign. >

Surely you can recognise that it’s not aimed at you? If you know you’re not part of the problem (indeed, by donating you’re part of the solution instead!), I’d think it’s pretty easy, cognitively, to exclude yourself as a target?
That being said, if you’re uncomfortable with U24, you can always donate to smaller groups of soldiers directly (like a particular battalion), or humanitarian efforts like the World Kitchen. This has been my choice, for example, when I’ve made donations - I like to be able to see my efforts make a difference directly (I have donated to a few drone groups for them fundraising to make bulk amounts of the FPV ones). >

Is there a particular reason or historical context that the scandinavian countries invest(ed) in the "Iron curtain" nations? I came across something like that when I first read the Girl with the dragon tattoo series many years ago and did some basic googling but did not find out much. >

I don't have the answer you're probably looking for, but Norway in particular creates a sort of soft global power by donating a lot to humanitarian projects. You can also notice a lot of the leadership in global  organizations are Norwegian or Scandinavian as well. The Nobel peace price is awarded in Norway, the head of NATO is a former Norwegian prime minister, Jagland comes to mind as well.
There are people arguing that this is a way for Norway to stay relevant and to get a voice in the world, when the population consists of only 5m people. The Norwegian sovereign pension fund holds 1.4% of all the worlds listed companies on average, this also plays a role in maintaining some soft power. >

And don't forget Jan Egeland, the "United Nations Superhero Man". >

Egeland! 👏👏
Egeland! 👏👏 >

Ja! >

They might not have piles of military gear to send like Poland but they do have piles of money. >

Norway just gave 8 leopard 2 tanks. >

He’s doing the mr beast pose >

huge for a small country. >

Well done Norway! Class act. >

Showing other countries how it’s done. Nice to see >

Norway is fucking awesome. >

Corrupt politicians are just going to steal it again >

Just a quick question from someone who is still young and not invested in politics.
will ukraine have to pay back all the aid it gets from other nations?,my understanding of aid and weapons "donations" is that the nation needs to pay back their "debt", what i am thinking is something like the greece crises.
and if not, aren't those the people taxes? Doesn't that affect other governments in the long run?
Please note i am still 17 and kinda sheltered from the world >

Whatever Norwegian grants that go to Ukraine will not have to be paid back but they might come with demands of anti-corruption work or pro-democratic goals being met but the situation is very different for Norway right now because of how much money is coming in from gas as a direct result of this war. >


soaring electricity and food prices.

Imagine how bad it is in Ukraine. >

Send it to Turkey instead. >

No. >

💀 >

how much is the cocaine budget >

Norway 🇳🇴 has been a busy country.  Saving away all this time.  The total reconstruction package will be in trillions to be sure >

Lol why would you pledge so much when Ukraine has openly said hey we’re having corruption issues. Somebody’s definitely getting a new boat >

Unlike America it’s not expected that contractors vastly overcharge based on political contributions or kickbacks. We call it corruption in other countries. In America, it’s just being a good businessperson. >

Yeh but Ukraine is literally firing higher ups for not using funds properly. That has nothing to do with the u.s. we didn’t say here’s some tanks and btw go buy a Porsche on us >

5 years huh. Will there be a Ukraine in 5 years? Maybe sending all of it now, then nothing for the next 4 years would be more useful. >

Understated point. The war is already about a year in. Given the recent losses idk if there will be a Ukraine in 5 years unless the west makes major moves. >

If the west wants Ukraine to win they can just decide to do it, there is so much more they can do but the trick is to not do more than Russia still feels it can win with a conventional war. >

I think we should (with the permission of Ukraine) conduct a training exercise. A exercise where a few hundred thousand NATO troops occupy all of the land West of the Dnipro and conduct troop training. You know stuff like how to employ a Abrams tank, aerial refueling, combat medical training, river patrols, building a airfield and barracks, all the basics. >

Just do it. You can afford, with all the petrol gains of last year. It would be a great symbolic gesture. >

Pretty sure handing over a couple billion in aid is a lot more than just symbolic. >

Yes, true. Apparently a lot of readers feel insulted with my description;( But hey, let's face it: 10316 billion NOK estimated profit in 2022, 1028 billion extra NOK net cashflow compared to 2021  due to war price of petrol and gas. Not Norways fault, of course. Source norskpetroleum.no. For € divide NOK by 11, that makes +/- 93,45 billion€= 99 billion$ EXTRA PROFIT  IN ONE YEAR  (2022 compared to 202)1.  So 7,3 billion in 5 years? For Ukraine it's certainly no peanuts. But for Norway? Facts are facts. Yeah, yeah, it comes on top of the rest. >

Crazy to think US has already given more then all the other countries combine for aid . Talk about being Ukraine’s sugar daddy, no wonder why the president is always talking to daddy Biden about needing more . I’m sure Reddit agree this is a good move , I just wonder how the other population feel about it. Not just the republicans but the people outside of this bubble . >

Child’s play. USA have over 100 fucking billion in the past year. You’d think we have healthcare over here or something. >

You realise the scale difference in population size, yes?