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Prigozhin's got his own private army, Kadyrov's got one, Shoigu's got one, there's tons of less known private armies, and now we're throwing Gazprom into the mix. 
It's going to be insane when Putin finally needs to get replaced. >

yeah, this is terrifying to be honest. if russia falls into a period of warlords chopping up the country. Russias nukes would fall into their hands, thats very very bad for the rest of the world. >

Meh. The ability to use them as projectile weapons is likely centralized. Same reason Ukraine gave up theirs after the USSR fell. Couldn't use em alone. Couldn't maintain em alone. The nuclear material though....eesh. >

your not thinking big enough, firstly, if kadyrov wants to take out prigozhin or lukashenko, he doesn't need that nuke to necessarily be a projectile. a truck might just do the trick 
secondly proliferation becomes a major concern. who's to say these fuckwits wouldn't SELL a nuke to some random african warlord. all of a sudden you have boko haram detonating dirty bombs in mogudishu or somewhere in the Sahel >

Who is going to support a warlord that nukes their opposition?
NATO, the UN, etc., would not just say "Okay Kadyrov you're standing on the pile of radioactive ashes, I guess we'll recognize you."
There is a threat of a "rogue" nuke but they are watched fairly closely, require constant maintenance, and are not quite as easy to detonate as a movie might suggest.  That warlord now has the same problem, using it ensures your own defeat at the hands of the world. >

your presuming these are all rational actors here. 
now Shoigu, prigozin, sure they seem intelligent/rational.
but when i see Kadyrov, the words rational do not enter my head. Thankfully though, in the event of russia balkanizing, he'd be the least likely one to end up with his hands on some nukes.
Shoigu and whoever is leading this Gazprom military would probably get the lions share >

If someone wants to kill themselves there are a lot less complicated ways than trying to get a hold of a nuke.  Using a nuke means your rule is over. >

People doing those things won't be rational. If Kadyrov uses a nuke, its going to be in anger / some other heightened emotional state or a last ditch attempt to stave off defeat, not some carefully calculated 4d move. When emotions run high, rationality goes out the window and very stupid decisions end up being made. >

Then it is just Hitler in the bunker ordering generals around who completely ignore him.
Unless you are suggesting that an oligarch is going to personally load a nuke - one designed for a missile launch - onto a truck, adapt it to detonate through his console commands and not the pre-programmed detonation sequence, drive to wherever he wants to explode, and then explode it.  Basically all by himself because very few other people want to die in a fiery explosion and even if one person isn't thinking rationally, it takes a host of people to pull this off and only one of them to say.... "We're working on it general, these things take time.  Now please, follow these new guards who will take you safely home..." >

i mean, you just gotta tell the drivers they are delivering munitions somewhere.
information can be and is compartmentalized in the military. especially russian militaries.
if you dont think someone with a cult of personality like Kadyrov has got a cabal of sycophants that will do whatever he tells them to do without question, then i got a bridge to sell ya. >

So is Russia becoming a lawless land where oligarchs build competing private armies? Because it's starting to sound like the state doesn't have a monopoly on violence anymore. >

Rise if multiple local warlords looks like totall loss of control over the military. >

There blis barely a Russian military at this point, imperial guard is about the only well equipped force under government control. >

Having multiple private armies owned by powerful men. What could go wrong? >

Guess Russia decided to install the Patriot System. 
When do we send snake? Before or After Putin Gets Defenestrated? >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 56%. (I'm a bot)


The document establishes that the founders of the organization will be Gazprom Neft with a 70% stake in the authorized capital of the "Organization" and "Private security organization Staff Center" with a 30% stake.
When creating the "Organization", the government of the Russian Federation refers to the law "On the safety of facilities of the fuel and energy complex", which states that enterprises of the industry "May be granted the right to establish a private security organization".
The size of the share of such an enterprise in the authorized capital of the newly created "Organization" cannot be less than 50%. On February 6, 2023, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine recognized the PMC "Wagner" and all other Russian private military companies as terrorist organizations.


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Gotta take those oil fields that russia isn't prioritizing >

So our german Gas-Gerd will he be a Generalfeldmarschall?
I hope he will not do anything with gas acrually… >

no, he doesn't rate that high a rank. possibly he gets to be a major general. i hear there's a model for that rank in these modern times. >

Sounds like mgs4 pmc future. >

Good, goooood, let the factionalism floooow through you >

For anyone else wondering what the fuck from this title: Gazprom is a Russian oil company, Ukraine intelligence isn't creating it's own company >

Looks like the East India Company's Presidency armies.
At this point, Russia is set to become Somalia with nukes. >

Presidency armies 

The presidency armies were the armies of the three presidencies of the East India Company's rule in India,  later the forces of the British Crown in India, composed primarily of Indian sepoys. The presidency armies were named after the presidencies: the Bengal Army, the Madras Army and the Bombay Army. Initially, only Europeans served as commissioned or non-commissioned officers. In time, Indian Army units were garrisoned from Peshawar in the north, to Sind in the west, and to Rangoon in the east.

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My god these Russians have out capitalismed the west! >

I guess the plot from Syndicate wasn't that outlandish after all... >

This is a republican wet dream... Corpos having private armies... >

Russia is headed for another Civil War.  It will be the first civil war with nukes and will likely draw in NATO, China, Iran, and Turkey (independent of NATO).  
My prediction is that a Russian city will be turned into a glass parking lot within the next five years and it will be done be another Russian city state. >

under which Russian law? 
Article 359 forbid an formation of a private military group in Russia. Even the issue of the Wagner group, law makes have tried to amend the constitution so that Wagner is legally registered in Russia but the amendment has been turndown 3 times now. 
I have a feeling this is propaganda from Ukraine trying to make sure that their is no way Gazprom can get back to business since it will have a label as "sponsor of a private military group" >

What is the difference between a private military group and a normal contracting firm hired to provide security to oil and gas infrastructure?
Especially if all of the local police and normal security in the region have been conscripted into the Russian Army already. >

The difference is that private security firms are not allowed to use tanks, etc. >

What is Putin going to do if oligarchs begin collecting armor?  Pull troops from Ukraine to assault desperately needed domestic oil and gas infrastructure?
Russian troops have one move - shell everything and everyone from a distance - which doesn't work as well when you actually need the infrastructure to remain in place. >

Where did they get the money?! Nevermind.. >

This will absolutely be the new thing in Russia. Also it is easier to not get defenestrated when you have a private army protecting your office.