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I guess I tend to treat people as innocent until they commit a crime. Having traveler information in the immigration database makes sense. Track incoming and outgoing travellers. The local police should have access to that only if there is a reason for it. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. 
Maybe I'm just tired of police and government overreach. I guess I consider my personal information to be personal.
At this point, I sort of assume that happens everywhere whether or not it's divulged. >

Would be surprised if it didn't .. >

short article. 

eight million photos of at least 6.5 million foreign nationals and the collection has been built up over a number of years.

separate database of more than 1.2 million photos for dutch citizens and foreigners who are crime suspects or convicts. 
authorities claim the foreigner database is only accessed with a judge's permission. twice in 2022. 
comments from people claiming this larger database is illegal. >

When they say an immigration database, they mean that Netherlands is storing photos of people who request an NL visa, and not everyone who is passing through Schengen passport control at AMS, correct? Because it seems like 6.5M photos would be too low if they are harvesting AMS passport control. >

Yes, immigrants and asylum seekers, as i understand it. >

I think the person above who said this is happening in many places, whether or not it’s being admitted, is basically right. >

Going into the UK I got my picture snapped, my fingerprint taken and my eye scanned. I wasn’t told before I flew that they would do that, and didn’t really have a choice once I had landed there. I assume that my picture, eye scan and fingerprints are now connected together and shared with AUKUS at a minimum, probably further. >

5 eyes alliance probably has it >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 77%. (I'm a bot)


Passport photos which foreigners from outside the EU have to supply to the immigration service are automatically included in a massive police database without their knowledge, RTL Nieuws reported at the weekend.
The police are only allowed to access the database of photos of foreigners with the permission of a judge and that happened twice in 2022, a police spokesman told RTL. 'This shows how restrained we are in using it,' the spokesman said.
The police spokesman told RTL that the police do not need a database with everyone's photo in it, and there is no legal grounds to have one.


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Pretty much, as a foreigner, i automatically asusme this is the case. Netherlands is not even unique with this probably. >

Tbh I assume they have a whole profile available on me as soon as a camera sees my face >

Tonight at 11pm... Driver's License photos! A massive police database created without the knowledge of those posing for the photos? >

"Driver's license photos", how to spot the American >

Nope, won't narrow things down much - USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, UK, Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, China, Ireland, Bulgaria, the international licenses... they all have photos. I'm sorry, please name a country that does NOT put a photo on their driver's license, as I'm not sure which backwater is being spoken of. >

That's not what I'm referring to. You're using "driver's license" as a shorthand for ID. In Europe (and presumably the rest of the world) we have actual ID, that's why your comment sticks out. >

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Mijn grootouders hadden een camping. Zij moesten eens in de zoveel tijd een kopie van alle paspoorten naar de politie brengen in het geval dat er een internationale  crimineel was gesignaleerd
Dit was eind jaren 80 begin jaren 90. >

I assumed this was the case in literally any country with digital infrastructure that has photos taken, or check fingerprints, or anything of the sort.
How else would they verify it and why else would they want it? Just have a database of "guests"? What for?
Isn't having these entities share resources kind of the point of going "digital"? I am confused.
Is it not the case in the rest of the EU countries, the USA, the UK, etc? Actual question. >

Most Western countries have had this system for decades.
Plenty of communist countries too actually.
If you've presented your passport for scanning anywhere, there's a digital copy of your basic information  and facial recognition data on you. >

and finger prints >

Went through customs to re-enter the US a few weeks ago, they ID’d and processed me using facial recognition.  I’ve never signed up for clear or global entry. 
Facial recognition tech is here to stay >

It's not only a treat for foreigners. I've got an EU passport and crossing the border with facial recognition is a breeze, but it makes me wonder where the data are stored, or if I even had a choice to opt out when applying for the passport. >

It was honestly a creepy experience.  When I approached the officer, I went to hand him my passport and he didn’t take it, just wanted the photo first.  I said Ok, photo first.  Then with my passport extended out to give to him, he looks at his screen and says you’re good to go BCCMNV.  
He said my name without me providing identification.   That’s the creepy part.  The government identified me using facial recognition, that as far as I know, didn’t sign up for. >

Why is this even controversial in the age of digital everything and the threat of terrorism? >

Duh. Does anyone think that when they travel to another country as a tourist that they don’t take and keep as much info about you as they can? It would be stupid to assume they ask you for a photo only to throw it away immediately when they get it. Of course it’s for police/government records. >

Passport photos are given for any EU Nation where residency is applied. This doesnt seem super new.. i just assumed this and an interpol check was done. Which could be why Polands process takes 1-2 Years just for your first residency and you cannot leave the country.. >

by the law its 3 months, and you can win the court, but they will still give you card years after.
Its not about only the first card. >

The courts passed a Law that nobody is entitled to compensation. Now Its just get a stamp in your passport and wait it out. >

Civil liberties are not available for those visiting the Netherlands from outside the EU.
EDIT: Grammar >

Aaw... I like how you think this doesn't happen in every other country... >

Doesn't really make it right though. Better to leverage this as a way to change it. >

Doesn't it? People come visiting a country as guests, why shouldn't the host country take precautions in case those visitors commit a crime?