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The Hague will be busy when this war ends. Putin’s war crimes keep piling up.
Kidnapping and forcing nuclear plant workers to work for you is a Really Bad Idea ⟨™⟩. >

Why? The plant is in someone else's country, not mine.
/s >

Such wind; much proжimity >

Russia evidently can't learn a lesson, no matter how devastating it was the first time around.
And this time there's no semi-competent leader to order what is necessary to keep it from becoming an international disaster. >

Putin's playing with nuclear fire. >

At some point he will make such a mistake that it will trigger a NATO intervention. He won't stop until it happens anyways. In a way that will be a way for him to not lose face. >

If NATO has to intervene because of a nuclear power plant meltdown then this won't be pretty for anyone involved. Last time we had seen that it nearly brought down USSR to bankruptcy on top of emitting enough radiation that decades later still affect farms all the way in UK. 
We weren't far from this incident growing to a scale when not 50000 people were evacuated but millions would be at risk of having to relocate (Chernobyl was worst case scenario for the reactor but the way it was handled was surprisingly competent for Russians, they accidentally sent one man who could actually see through bullshit and cared, I doubt they have many like that left by now).  
So let's hope it doesn't come to that. >

I understand attempts are being made to keep it secure and cooled, however I do not trust Russia. Noone should trust Russia. You may want to read the novel 'The Warning.' (Mike Gray, Ira Rosen) There are plenty of ways for conventional nuclear reactors to fail and release radiation. We had several oopses where human intervention took the wrong action when the automated systems were the better course of action, before Three Mile Island. Imagine an intentional sabotage instead.
Even a modest meltdown may trigger NATO escalation and I really don't want a nuclear war fuse to be lit. I'm in a pretty bad spot for a nuke and it wouldn't be over in a blink.
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i live in a capital, wont notice a thing. >

A year later and those Ukrainian engineers are still not cooperating with the Russians. It's a testament of the limits of the nuclear engineer labour market that they are still alive. All they have been doing is kidnapping and threatening them. >

Even a stupid bandit knows not to kill the last doctor in the area. >

stop insulting bandits, they are smarter than your average russian army. >

"We have captured Chernobyl!  Time to dig some defensive trenches in that shockingly desolate field over there!" >

These barrels are warm, let's use them to stay warm at night! >

They can also be used to keep our food warm! >

What a short sighted and incredibly stupid risky thing to do, like invading in the first place. >

"But all the top guys said it was a good idea when I asked them!" 
-Putin, Right after throwing his 47th dissenter out the window >

Pretty sure kidnapping is a war crime, but does anyone still think Russia cares about it at this point? >

Nah. They are just "deporting" them into a new country. >

Which is specifically also a war crime. >

War crimes really don't matter to Russia, Belarus, China, Iran, Turkey, or India apparently. >

Lol it looks like that because the war crimes done by US is 2-3 times of all the above list combined.
Also coz US Army is outside the jurisdiction of ICJ court. They literally threatened to attack them if they put any case on a US soldier. >

I don't think many pay attention to international politics and the destruction of other countries laid out by the United States, there is very little coverage of American-perpetrated war crimes (outside WikiLeaks). Iraq and Syria come specifically to mind (not even Canada has clean hands here). >

Yes, it is clear from the downvotes here that many of them are US users. 
Either they're oblivious to US Army's/CIA/Intelligence agencies activities or are willfully sweeping this opinion under the rug just like they do to their war crimes.
I'm still waiting for them to dispute my statements factually, instead of upvoting you and downvoting me. >

I think the difference is definitely coverage and a significant amount of US atrocities are anecdotal/of limited evidence. It's definitely there, but not as well-known or readily available. 
Russia on the otherhand, they aren't trying to hide their war crimes, nor do they even care about the Geneva Convention, nor have any disregard for human life, civilian or military. >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)


The National Resistance Center reports new cases of kidnappings among the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant workers who do not agree to sign contracts with a fake company from Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear regulator.
Quote: "Many workers refused to work at the station after the occupation, and currently there is a shortage of workers at the station because there are not so many nuclear workers on the labour market. Therefore, the enemy wants to"convince" Ukrainian power engineers to work for the Russians.
The Center reiterated that the occupiers had previously blocked access to the station for nearly 1,500 Ukrainian workers of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: work^#1 Russians^#2 Nuclear^#3 Power^#4 station^#5 >

you didn't see graphite!!
it's just missile debris
BACK TO WORK!
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i know, i know, we shouldn't joke. let's just hope they don't fuck up....
anymore than they have done thus far. >

Ugh, its a good reference. >

Man they are really digging into the WW2 playbook right now >

Chapter 4, Section 8. Kidnapping 101: How to abduct people and make them do what you want to >

So now Russia is taking slaves? >

That's not really a new thing. >

I'm not suggesting ideas, but how does the Russian military not have some nuclear engineers that could do this?  I'm not saying they are huge supply in any military, but it seems like after a year there's bound to be some that could have been reassign.  I understand not all tasks are the same but even so. >

Russia has 30-ish nuclear plants and 38 reactors of their own (thus, enough qualified people to take over), so yeah, that's a bit weird. >

And many of them are identical to these reactors, so they'd know reasonably well how to operate these ones as well. But regardless, these reactors aren't even being run at the moment anyway. So in practical reality, the retention of the local engineers has not much to do with running the reactors. >

Russia just need to disappear >

My grandparents live in the city and wish it would end ;-; >

This finally happened? When they took over the nuke plant I was assuming they would have immediately captured the engineers. >

“kidnap” more like commit heinous crimes against your family as you watch. just once can the world get lucky break and these rulers catch a case of … >

defenestration? >

They already held them hostage so long it was basically kidnapping without relocation, all terrible but 0 that didn't defect have been free since the original takeover. >

Proving again that the present Russian government needs to be eradicated and refunded. There is unfortunately nothing else to do. >

Do you have any idea what a power vacuum on that scale would do? >

Because a government that mandates rape, torture and the kidnapping of foreign people is the only thing sustaining peace on the region. >

No, it isn’t, but if they were to be deposed in short order, there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it. >


there’s about a couple hundred oligarchs and mafiosos at least who have all the desire for money and power, and more or less zero restraints on what they are willing to do to secure it.                    

You are literally describing the present Russian government. >

Yet another war crime, I guess that they want the plant to have a meltdown, then blame it on Ukraine >

I'm shocked to hear that the Russians are having a hard time finding highly skilled and specialized nuclear workers to work in the nuclear plant that they've seized and shelled in the country they invaded. Maybe they should offer an extra week of holidays or something to sweeten the deal. >

Intentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war. Putin is a fucking moron. There was a military intel guy on Joe Rogan the other day that said Putin will throw every male from 16-25 into a meat grinder to take Ukraine. Also said there are more 50+ males than -18 so this is the end of Russia. They want to go out with a bang! >


Intentionally causing a nuclear disaster is technically the same as nuclear war.

It isn't. Neither technically nor in the context of treaties and conventions. It's sure to bring up significant additional involvement if it came to be, yes; but regardless of that, every incentive to want to avoid a nuclear exchange will still be in place. >

Sokolov... >

For so many reasons not the least of which is that the plant is older if I'm not mistaken and therefore finding people to operate it Even Harder than Normally finding people with Nuclear Plant experience: What the Actual Fuck is the Russian Military Thinking This Is a Good Idea For. >

Russia. Forcing people to operate a nuclear power plant. Under duress. Anyone else feeling deja Vu? >

This thread has shown me how utterly uniformed people are in nuclear power >

...... guys this is the start of a metal gear game isn't it >

I only recently learned about the Demon Core.
Nope. Nope nope nope. No spicy-rocks for me. >

That whole thing screams of young idiocy. It reads like a bunch if teenage boys who found a spicy rock and wanted to study it would come up with.
No shielding for working around or near it, no system for raising or lowering the shell consistently, just a bunch of bricks >

And a flathead screwdriver! >

Just trying to go boom. >

Chernobyl 2.0 will do wonders for the Russian population decline I’m sure >

Swigs 2 shots of Vodka


Hey Ivan, take the fucking geeks hostage! If we can't take the land from the Ukrops, no one can.


Vlad, You stupid cunt, my gun doesn't even work! I'm only doing this so I don't die in prison!


Заткнись, блять! Russia forever! >

I’m sorry, cooperate with what exactly? Doing their VERY NECESSARY jobs? >

Tom Cruise can save them. >

Russians: "We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?"
Engineers: "Hmm?"
Russians: "We've searched the whole building, Engineers. Where is the bomb?"
Engineers: "Hmm?"
Russians: "We've searched the — Okay." >

Why does every Russian headline like this one sound like a movie plot or video game? >

Putin needs a lobotomy >

Because he wants a nuke to come from a Ukrainian plant by a Ukrainian engineer so he thinks his hands are clean. Much respect to these engineers. >

War crime. >

Oh yes. Its absolutely solid and trustworthy news, definitely. Damn, and you people believe in such bullshit, good luck with that, really. And Putin ate today 4 ukrainian children for breakfast yep >

I’d assume they mean the nuclear power plant operators and not the engineers, unless in Ukraine you need a degree to operate a nuclear power plant? >

Co-operation = do what they tell you, and in return... >

u/fennius >

Terrorist state = Russia >

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