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And how is it white people's fault when dark-skinned adolescents drop out of school?

This is the only point I can talk on. Live in a pretty much pure white, poor, rural area. Our schools are very much underfunded. Knew a few people that didn't do well in the school system, could lay beads or swing a hammer, dropped out and got jobs in welding or construction. There were those that dropped out to smoke meth too, let's be real here. Point is the problem isn't necessarily race but crap ass schools. I did alright in mine but I wish I could have been out by 16 and started working
"But many people say slavery and segregation, though wrong and evil, are not to blame for racial disparities. I don't understand the logic behind this."
In the 1970s there were many Vietnamese boat people that arrived in the United States.  They were quite literally foreigners, did not know the language, had NOOOO money, and about 18 years later a number of valedictorians at Southern California High Schools had last names like Ng or Nyguen.  In one generation, there were children of Vietnamese boat people that became doctors and lawyers.  From prestigious schools.
Clearly if America has deep racism this would be impossible.  How did they do it?  Well, their families stayed intact with both parents.  They lived in very small apartments, or multiple families would live in one house with individual families sharing one bedroom.  And those families vauled education and pushed their children to do well in school knowing that education was the path to prosperity.
" it's clear that slavery and segregation had long lasting effects that have lead to the disparities we see today."
Then why are the people of Appalachia generationally poor?  They are White, why is their income on average about the same as Black Americans?  I will ask that question again, why are Appalachians that largely come from broken homes with absent fathers, high drug use, and without a big cultural push to educate their children out of poverty have wealth about the same as Black Americans?
In the United States, if you A)graduate from high school (and can do high school math, and read at a high school level), and B)get married before you make babies, and C)stay married, then you will not be poor.  Approximately 97% of the people that do those steps are not poor in America.
Lack of wealth especially the lack of being able to build wealth from one generation to another has more to do with poverty, and the things that cause poverty, than then things related to race.  The Vietnamese boat people proved that it is possible to THRIVE in the United States, by adopting cultural attitudes opposite of poverty.
So, when you say "But many people say slavery and segregation, though wrong and evil, are not to blame for racial disparities. I don't understand the logic behind this."  There is your answer. >

I think one question to ask is "did the coping mechanisms available to a group facing hardships having lasting utility?" With that question in mind, it becomes clear that the coping mechanisms available to Black people (eg, don't excel or you'll get sold and separated from your family, you may have to act violently to protect yourself, etc) were harmful to them in the long term. A lot of norms/behaviors formed during slavery still exist in some form today (sugar/fat in most cooking; appreciation of physical ability, etc), and they are now counter-productive. 
Compare this to Jews, whose coping mechanisms after the Holocaust allowed for education and going into business (they were often limited to jewelry and banking), but where the general coping mechanisms from that time are extremely useful into today's world. 
Same with immigrants/Asians. 
Your Appalachia example fits this as well. What coping mechanisms were available to them? Not good education. Not saving money (with the "company stores). Not improving their communities (extractive capitalism). They had booze, drugs, and sex available to them. The only coping mechanism that worked was to leave all together... >

If the Appalachia example fits here then that undercuts that poverty is based upon rascism from the OP. >

I think there can be many reasons for poverty. Economic and educational factors contributing to poverty in Appalachia doesn’t negate those same factors plus racism contributing to poverty among Blacks. >

When the Title is:

The disparity between the average white family income and the average black family income are the result of slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking and the long term effects of slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking

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And your answer is "there can be many reasons for poverty."
And additionally

Economic and educational factors contributing to poverty in Appalachia doesn’t negate those same factors plus racism

Then you are conceding my point.
the OP was not "The disparity between the average white family income and the average black family income are the result of a bunch of economic factors that also plague Appalachia and also slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking and the long term effects of slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking"
It was "The disparity between the average white family income and the average black family income are the result of slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking and the long term effects of slavery, segregation, and racist lawmaking"
The fact that there is a sizable cohort of white Americans that have a similar average family income as black families is evidence that it was not slavery, nor segregation, nor racist lawmaking as the reason. >

I think you actually conceded the OP’s point when you moved away from average to sub-set. :-) >

While I don’t disagree with the opinion that the way people were treated in the past affects , or is it effects? , future generations , there are lots of other factors involved 
What about immigrants and refugees  that arrive in the US with nothing ?
And a few years later are earning a good living and own a home ? >

Affects = Verb, Effects = Noun. You had it right. >


Essentially because they started with zero once freed, they were and will never be able to catch up. Even if they earned the same returns as everyone else, they will still never catch up

Isn't that what reparations would seek to address? I have mixed feelings about it, but I think one of the ideas behind reparations is that it would shrink that gap that otherwise can never be shrunk. >

Reparations is a varied to the point of depending on who you are talking to. 
I more wanted to highlight that if we kept everything 100% even moving forward, black family's will not bridge the wealth gap. >

What about other minorities? Asians? Native Americans? Indians? >

The asian and Indian populations in the US are fairly recent.  A majority of asian americans can be traced to post ww2 policy shifts in immigration where the US encouraged wealthy Asian families to immigrate. It's unfair for the US to try and take credit when people made their money elsewhere.
Indian Americans are more recent but similar. The population of Indian Americans have tripled in the last decade along. >


70% of black babies are born out of wedlock. 

Is that a bad thing? Is it important for people to get married? >

You realize that's not the same right? Just because you're not married doesn't mean you are a single parent family. >


Black families have a serious problem with single motherhood (parenthood).

And you believe this is because of some inherent quality of black people? >

I already explained where I believe that comes from.
Perverse incentives and bad culture.
skeet skeet skeet. "Yeah I fucked that bitch. She better not say she pregnant. That ain't my damn baby". 
And the whole giving a lot more welfare to women who don't marry the babies father. Making it far more likely that they break up before the child is an adult. >


Perverse incentives and bad culture.

That just leads me to ask the same question. Why do they have perverse incentives and bad culture? Do you believe it is because there is something inherently different about black people? >

perverse incentive affect everyone the same way. They just have way more welfare recipients. But believe me I saw plenty of white people milking the system in my day. Ain't nothing special about black people in that regard.
Black culture.... I dunno. Maybe it's genetic. Maybe it's a remnant of the segregation and slavery past. Maybe it's both.
You know my Drill Sergeants (6 black 2 white 3 hispanic). Had an anti racist course they taught us in basic training. In the US Army. This was 2003. You know what they said? This will sound super racist to you but this was taught by black drill sergeant. He said the reason black people are so good at sports. Is because of the selection pressures that the slavers had on the black population. They wanted very strong durable slaves. That is how you get 75% black NBA and 80% black NFL. I don't know if how true that is. But yeah food for thought. It would still be racism/segregation/slavery. But in a different way. >

Can you explain more about how welfare is affecting black people?
I can tell you right now that people of different races actually have very minimal genetic differences to show for it. Therefore likely is as OP Is saying, and that it is due to our racist history.
And your sergeant was definitely wrong about black people being bred for sports and that being why there are so many black athletes. How do I know that he is wrong? Because just a few decades ago the demographics were very different for sports. It was largely Jews who were the star athletes. What probably is more likely is that whatever minority faces the most difficulties looks to sports both as a therapeutic outlet and the way they can potentially make money. >

The poverty rate for Black married families is in the single digits: 7.2%. The poverty rate of unmarried Black mothers is almost 30%.
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Most of Black poverty comes from unmarried Black people, mainly single moms. Almost 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock today. The majority of Black poverty today is caused by Black people choosing to have kids before they are married. 
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Another seldom talked about factor in Black poverty is the average age of Black people when they first marry. In 2010, the average age when a Black couple first got married at was 30 years old. This is significantly higher than White couples at about 26-27 years old. White people usually get a head start on building wealth as a family. 
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The disparity in White and Black income is due to tons of factors. The relevant question is: what is the easiest way to get the most Black people out of the poverty? The best answer seems to be encouraging Black couples to marry earlier or at least wait until they are married to have kids. >

So we don’t have any of that anymore, so why is the disparity still here >


In my view, it's clear that slavery and segregation had long lasting effects that have lead to the disparities we see today.

In my view it's absolutely not clear at all. What's the evidence for this?

I don't understand the logic behind this. 

The rule 1 of statistics is: correlation does not imply causation. So I literally don't understand the logic of people who just from seing a correlation immediately derive a conclusion. If you do that, you are doing it wrong. That's the case for e.g. gender wage gap too.
So in absence of evidence I don't believe in that claim. 
That doesn't necessarily mean I believe some opposite claim. But you can look e.g. Thomas Sowell who makes the case that the reason for this whole thing is social policy; the black people were doing quite well before 1960's, even faced with segregation. Walter Williams makes similar cases: the free market actually eliminated a lot of racism by itself, black people were actually getting better. In the first half of 20th century. 
In the end: most people today didn't get anything from their ancestors who lived 100 years ago. You may make the case that slavery is responsible for the black culture that ultimately leads to what we see today. But then, you always find "somebody" to blame for your problems, wouldn't you? In the meantime the asians just went to work and are doing fine. >

Dr Umar a black activist with a doctorate degree compares financial priorities of the average white family compared to the average black family. He himself explains how black america spent 2 billion dollars on air jordans, 4B on liqour and alcohol, 600M on fast food, and twice the amount of mercedes benz as white america. So the question becomes what is it the benz that makes it so attractive to the black community when they can't or barely afford it. It's a status symbol.  The average black family is buying status symbols when they can barely afford to. While the average white family is not. To the degree where they are spending twice as much than a middle-class white family. If your own can't change your mind because it comes with accountability than you have already refused to change views before even making this post. >


black families had 0 wealth to pass down... it only makes sense to me that the next generation and generations after that would still be feeling the effects

Counterpoint- there were immigrants that came here with literally the clothes on their backs, and that made a good living within a generation or two.  So, it is possible. >

the half of my family that came from Ireland came with nothing but a single steamer trunk, that we still have in the family. they did not have money, in fact our last name was changed to be more "Americanized" at Ellis island. Part of my family fought for the union in the civil war too.
We are not rich by any means, in fact my mother was dirt poor and my dad was a military brat. his father ended up doing well but devoiced my dad's mother and basically left nothing to our half of the family. 
my parents climbed their way to the middle class, and i'm working on doing the same.
maybe being white helped, maybe not, after all the Irish were not considered white back when my family came over here... >

The conflicting perspectives of W.E.B. Debois and Booker T. Washington really illustrates the evolution of black America in a few different ways.
Before the Civil Rights era black people seemed to hold to the perspective of Washington, and adopted the Debois view afterwards. >

I think it’s more that the north is more racist than people think >

That's a good point. That's a distinct 3rd possibility. I'll add it. >

Income of families or individuals is not a result of inherited wealth. For most people (black and white) Income is very much what they earn from work. Of course if you’re unskilled and uneducated your income will be very low. In many cases there will not be any income to speak of. 
Most people, white, Asians or other, get education and start working in their profession. With time, they make progress, get promoted and are paid higher salaries. That is the income of majority of population. As a matter of fact many highly paid people, grew up in low income or poor families.
For example an Asian family I know, own a couple of properties they inherited. But that’s not what they are living off. A couple of them are employed in well paying jobs and two other own businesses: one is a doctor with a clinic and another - a lawyer who is associate at a lawyer firm. None of them live off the buildings they inherited. That money is saved. >

Aren't there more whites on welfare than blacks? Can you link me to your stat >

Black subculture doesn't help.  
And Alfonzo Rachel pointed out that socialist politicians harvest votes from the black community, but then hinder free market capitalism in improving life for that community. >

Can you give an example of socialist politicians hindering free market capitalism in the black community?
Black subculture? >

White folks didn't force black folks to build a multimillion-dollar rap industry glorifying gang violence and calling each other the N-word.  And how is it white people's fault when dark-skinned adolescents drop out of school?  And rioting isn't a good way to impress white employers.
Reparations is nonsense.  A hard worker doesn't use a history book as an excuse to demand handouts.
Martin Luther King told a church in St. Louis, "We have to do something about our moral standards. ...We can't keep on blaming the white man.  There are things we must do ourselves."