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this is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a "great wall" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective)      
Laws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?
Ah yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue >

Eh, too far to scroll. I now just set 1 Jan 2000 >


2000

Okay, now I'm uncomfortable with my age. >

I was in a liquor store a few months ago… the cashier asked for my ID and exclaimed “oh, 19, you’re good.” I was like “huh?” She goes “born in 19-anything. You’re good. “ 
I walked out feeling a little less comfortable with my age, too. >

19-anything has been "good" for like 5 years now...
Edit- oh your probably american, 3 years then >

They asked his age, so def not european or latin american >

I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; 

People who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.

Yeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors. >


People who want to visit these websites

"These websites" will be not only porn websites, but also other websites, falsely flagged as porn.
Legislators don't understand how Internet works.
Also it's easy to circumvent by just installing a TOR Browser. Or any random VPN/proxy. Or using a web proxy.
In Bulgaria we have a filter for copyright-infringing and gambling websites that wrongly block other sites using the same Cloudflare IP address. >

European union countries love to make stupid regulations that almost certainly backfire. Every kid in the country will know how to work a vpn, torrent, tor, and/or proxy by the end of the week. Meanwhile adults consuming legal content will have their data exposed to breaches >

UK tried to do a porn ban of their own a few years back
They only backpedaled because it was pointed out that VPN could get you through easily, so then they tried to ban VPNs
Then every business in the country collectively screamed (because VPNs have business applications as well, even banking) and told them to stop
That was the last we've heard of it since, but it'll probably crop up again in future by some old farts who don't know how the internet works >

It's a real problem that technology has so outpaced government legislation that they have no idea what to do with it. It's a problem on a lot of fronts.
Like what the fuck is some 70 year old senator going to know about anything to do with modern tech? >

Age is no excuse, plenty of old people have kept up with the changing world. >

It shouldn't be an excuse. I personally make sure to keep up with technology because I understand it's importance. But there's plenty of old people who didn't and don't want to understand new things. It's a shame but anyone who has elderly parents that don't know how to fucking work an ipad understands the struggle.
It's a shame, but it is the reality of the situation. >

Congress geezers have employees whose job it is to inform them about important stuff and make sure they understand why it matters. >

Right, but they also have lobbyists telling them why they should ignore the people trying to educate them about stuff and vote against people's interests. >

But in who’s interest it is here to hard block porn ? The mail VHS lobby is back ? >

Somehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday. >

Me everytime I go on the CSGO steam page: "for fuck sake steam, I have over 2000h logged in on this games, and I've spent thousands of euros on your platform for the past 10 fucking year buying other age restricted games and you are still fucking asking for my age??? I've owned this stupid game since 2014 and you still haven't figured out I'm of age????" 
But hey, it's the only complaint I have from steam, so I guess I'll let it pass. >

I assume you too are born on January 1st, maybe in 2000? >

Obviously I'm born in 1912 >

You go, Great-great-great-grandpa!  Keeping up with the times.  
Wait, do they have a horse and buggy simulator?!  
...probably will soon. >

Question is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption "thinking of him." >

So does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation. >

It's not that tough for Reddit, just forbid the parts that ask you to confirm you're 18+. The job is already done, basically. You'll ban porn and gore, it's tO birds one stone for their pov >

How? With HTTPS as the standard, ISPs no longer know the URL being served, only the domain (and even that, not all the time). >

Idk how but they can! I was in Saudi Arabia (which blocks porn, but can be accessed with vpn), and Reddit really couldn't be searched for Porn nor NSFW subs. And Google in the country was forced to implement the "SafeSearch" feature which couldn't be turned off.
The only way to access Reddit porn was to post a subreddit's name in a random comment then click on it so it opens. Or to save a megathread that collected all the subs links. >

If you were indeed accessing over HTTPS, it likely there were extra certificate installed on the computer that allowed them to perform a MITM attack, or software that does something similar. It would not be possible without installing something on the user's computer  
Or reddit was complying with Saudi rules for traffic coming from Saudi Arabia >

Right, most people don't realize when they connect to wifi and it asks you to accept a certificate, that means the network is literally decrypting everything you are doing. They just see it as the "ok connect!" box. >

Yeah no certificates were asked other than in WiFis in public universities and gov workplaces. >


other than in WiFis in public universities and gov workplaces.

Those certificates remain with you tho even if you use a different network. >

Gonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way. >

Not even that, this is just the government getting its citizens to install their app on citizens' phones so they can start collecting on them. No doubt this type of app would start being used to verify more than just porn before long. >

Even if it's just porn, I don't want to install an app that basically says "Yes, I use this device to watch porn", and I don't want to send data to the government saying "Yes, I watch porn". That's none of their fucking business. 
I feel like this is a band-aid to a problem that could be mostly solved through proper sex ed. "No kids, what you see in pornography isn't representative of real life". For fuck's sake, I had a sex ed course like that in the 90s. Talked about the issues with pornography, how it didn't represent real intercourse, how it was sexist, etc. >

Bold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo! >

Pretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say "alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore" and leave it at that. >

"I'll just use my NordVPN!" >

Push comes to shove I’m sure magazines will just get popular again >

We're too far past that point. A small, low cost, USB drive is 64 gigs. You can fit more porn on that drive in JPG form than the number of pages in a typical local branch library. The print age is long gone. Digital information is not restricted to the internet by a long shot. 
This is also true in places like China. When we hear stories about the people of China being completely ignorant of the outside world, it's nonsense. The official media channels are controlled but the people there can see anything that you or I can see if they are even moderately determined to do so. People may choose to follow the official narrative but it's simply not true that they have no options. Same with kids and porn or any other group and any other topic. If they want to see it, they can see it. >


We're too far past that point. A small, low cost, USB drive is 64 gigs. You can fit more porn on that drive in JPG form than the number of pages in a typical local branch library. 

Shit in high school in the early 2000s there was a CD that was passed around and copied that was full of porn. It was only 650mb but that was enough. >

Yeah, the game was over way back then. The recordable CD changed the game in an era when the net was still too slow to be a reliable source of porn. But now there is no going back. People hardly even use DVDs anymore much less CDs. And why would they, a USB drive is so cheap and holds what a hard drive did twenty years ago. >

Yeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep. >

And yet the age of consent in France is 15.  So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years. >

Literally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife
Edit: she was 40 >

sorry what >

The president of France was groomed by his teacher when he was a kid. >

And look how he turned out. >

he turned out a neoliberal 🤢 child sex grooming is really an awful thing >

National VPN law aimed to stimulate the VPN industry. Good job. >

Lol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware. >

Yeah, I've never understood why these porn bans never focus on the user-end. Like, make a law that requires every internet browser to include parental controls that block porn sites. Worried parents who are comforted by the illusion of control get what the want, and everyone else gets what they want. >


Like, make a law that requires every internet browser to include parental controls that block porn sites.

Cool, I'll just download the source code of any browser, remove the parental lock functions and compile a new browser. Or 20 other people will do the same and release compiled browser on one of 100s of different sites. >

… and followed by another 1000 people making shady virus-filled unofficial builds. >

Cmon, don't worry just let us install apps on every phone and computer that lets us track and control your content. It's for the kids, do you hate kids? 
Oh you don't want to install it huh? You must be hiding something. 
Look at that conspiracy theorist who refuses to install the child safety app, he must be a chomo.
Let's introduce some legislation that makes it impossible for companies to hire these app-less freaks.
Is how I imagine it going if it ever gets into law, which it probably won't but once the media machine gets going, the majority of people will be too afraid to say anything other than what the media is being told to propagate.
As always though, I have faith in the French people's spirit of protesting and the completely ineptitude of boomer politicians when it comes to interwebs things. Realistically, the only way you're going to get to be able to do this is through a China-style great fire wall with social ID scan for every app and even then, it's not foolproof. >

Atempt doomed to fail >

Good luck. >

So a 15 year old can have sex with their 40 year old, married teacher and the French shrug their shoulders, but if a 17 year old watches two adults have sex in a porno that’s crossing a line? Okay >

Like...the video isn't molesting them.... at least I can't see their logic for claiming a video is molesting them MORE than their 40 year old teacher molesting them is, lmao. >

I hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them. >

They will probably install a VPN instead of a government app >

And that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord
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More opportunities for the French to protest. Their probably loving this >

It's like they just got internet last week. >

Of all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card. >

It's only considered porn if it's not in French.
"Mon Dieu!  Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!" makes it acceptable.