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Abrams are made, they keep the Factory running just in case, it’s just very few per year.
Just for your interest, even if 100% of Switzerland would want this, it won't happen fast.
If the parlament won't do a Special law (like the COVID law) for instance, which was highly debated here, then it will at least take some months because all the preperations will need to be set, including rewriting the law so the  majority is happy. >

I very much doubt they'll do this. There's cool Swizz folk but there's a reason they're the worlds largest haven for bloodmoney for the last 100 years and it sure as fuck isn't because they overall care so much about their fellow man. >

You're not wrong, but there is a news story out last week in Swiss papers that multiple firms in the defense industry have lost contracts because of Switzerland's refusal to allow re-export of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine.
So money vs money >

Damn, I wonder which will win? >

I'd say whichever brings more money! Yay money! 😀 >

I'd say whatever the SVP wants more.
Neutrality or Stronk Military...
It's going to look like that meme with tge two buttons. >

Just watch, they'll do both and still do nothing lol >

You mean they've considered discussing the possibility of potentially deciding if maybe they should open a dialogue about deliberating the concept of contemplating if they should renounce neutrality... >

The Problem is always the path forward, Swiss politics are SLOW, like REALLY SLOW. The only time they acted quick was because of Covid and even then they asked for "permission" aftwards to continue with their policies.
If this ever gets to be voted on, it will be mid to end of this year. >

To put it into context for those unaware, the Swiss largely still do direct democracy, meaning literally ANY voter can challenge or propose just about anything, and every decision is run by the people in a vote, not the representatives they choose (which the Swiss do have reps, they just don’t have the final say).
Politics is slow there because legally, everyone plays a part in what’s going on. >

Seems kinda cool though. Wonder if that could be implemented on like a local level here in the states. >

Was just thinking I could see it on a state, but not federal, level.
Maybe in order to propose something instead of 1 person, it could be a petition of say any 500 people?  That'd cut down on the quantity of crazy crap on paper... >

Its also more than one person in Switzerland. 50k for referenda and 100k for initiatives. >

Ah yup that'd work.
Thanks bud >

Stress on “may”
Edit: Seem like I may have inadvertently subscribed to “Switz facts”
Edit2: I really didn’t expect, or wanted, this low effort comment to become my all-time best. But thanks, I guess, maybe I should retire now >

It very likely be decided by the people. Swiss Politics are slow and politicians in Switzerland rarely take initiative on big and visible topics because if there is one thing the Swiss do well is, is hold a grudge. >

Grudges...gold...mountains
Dwarfish of them >

Ok you go in the book of grudges >

Not very rock and stone of them at all >

Rock and Stone! >

If you don't Rock and Stone you ain't coming home! >

Rock! And! STOOOOONEEE! >

Rock and stone to the bone! >

Give me an R! Give me an S! Give me a rock and stone! >

“All I know is my gut says maybe.” >

What makes a country turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with a heart full of neutrality?
...oh shit, in this case it's definitely lust for gold. >

More like getting conquered by napoleon and him rewriting the swiss constitution to be permanently neutral >

I don't think the looming threat of an invading Napoleon keeps them from rewriting their constitution these days >

Literally the same source, no? 
OP's article mentions their source is Reuters >

Likely the original source yeah. Many outlets seem to be using it as primary reference now. Though each is spinning it at least slightly differently, as usual. >

Reuters is a wire service so they've always been used by news services like this. >

Yeah that's totally fair. Headlines draw readers and clicks :) Just figured I'd bring attention to the source as I'd been seeing various outlets spinning it with more opinion than fact. This article was pretty tame compared to the others I've seen. It's nothing new of course. >

I like it when Switzerland comes up in the sub because it reminds me to not trust anyone posts or says here. 
People have a lot of pre-conceived ideas based on very little knowledge and a lot of clichés. When you know more than the bare minimum it becomes incredibly apparent. All you get is either a circle-jerk in one direction, or a circle jerk in the opposite direction. Facts, critical thought and nuance be damned. >


Buyers of Swiss arms are legally prevented from re-exporting them, a restriction that some representing the country's large weapons industry say is now hurting trade.

This is about them making money, helping Ukraine is just a nice bonus. >

It seems European nations are scrambling as arms sales shifted to South Korea seemingly overnight. From 31st in weapons sales in 2000 to 8th in 2017 to possibly 3rd or 4th after the latest rounds of weapons deals they have signed with European countries last month. They surpass pretty much every nation but the US and China in sales at the moment. Their sales are triple that of 2 years ago. >

Well nobody else in the west has weapons factories running, not even the US for a lot of ground troop stuff (no new abrans or bradlys are being made, only upgrades).