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Why are US police so violent? I have seen videos of police in Europe handling people who have weapons in a much calmer way.
is it a fair thing to mention he'd just been filmed  stabbing a random pedestrian?
he had his legs amputated below the knees but could move surprisingly fast in the video.
this wasn't an innocent encounter gone bad- he was literally a screaming nutter with a massive knife. >

Okay but I’m pretty sure police are capable of restraining an individual that has no legs. Maybe not. Maybe they are as incompetent as they let on >

Well, his lack of legs hadn't stopped him from just stabbing someone else. >

Dumb argument. The person he stabbed wasn't a police officer that should be equipped and trained to handle this situation. >

Not every police officer is Chuck Norris.  Engaging suspects carrying knives in physical combat because they think they can probably take 'em seems like a bit of a big ask to me. >

If they are trained for it then it should be no issue, but the police are trained to shoot for most instances instead. >

Nobody's job is to get stabbed. I'm not one to run to the defense of police, but gtfo with that stupid ass argument. >

Why is it only police in America that are so incompetent they can’t do these things? It is STANDARD PRACTICE in other countries to take down suspects with knives without being stabbed, and not shooting the other person. Because they have the training and equipment to deal with it.
This isn’t a “oh the police will get stabbed” this is a “the police are not trained to deal with their job, so shoot people much more often than is needed” >

Having a mental health crisis isn't not a consequence-free card.  Also, wtf is a mental health crisis anymore then?  Anyone who is stabbing someone is definitely in a poor state of mental health.  So, it truly is meaningless.  
As for people who wanted the cops to do something else, go work as a counselor for crisis response unit.  It is a shitty job and there is not much you can do.  Many times, there are no magic words and no, you should not risk lives by getting closer. >

The problem is many cities rely on police officers to deal with mental health events, but cops are not trained to handle those; so when they arrive on scene they usually just beat up the person or kill them. They should not be trained to use lethal or non lethal force when someone who can't or won't instantly follow their commands does not, but they are trained to do that. 
I think in Colorado, some cities have started sending a mental health response team along with police if they get crisis calls, and they have had success with those. It'd be nice if every city had that ability. >

Quote from the article “he was not a threat”? They should probably interview the random stranger he stabbed. The police overreacted and escalated as they always do because the vast majority are insecure pussies, but the article is obviously written to stoke outrage and feed the “innocent man gets shot” narrative. 
Having a mental health crisis is not an excuse for trying to murder people. This seems like a case of suicide by cop. >

Might be right about the media narrative, I don't care all that much. However, what is problematic is the belief that guilt or innocence is determined by cops. >

Pretty sure nutter actively trying to attack people with a knife is within the competence of the police >

pretty sure that cops don't determine innocence and guilt, regardless of the inabilities to handle situations without killing someone. >

They don't. Innocence or guilt of a knife wielding individual actively stabbing others without provocation Is a moot point.
What would your guidance be, given the police already tried to talk to and taser him?
-let the knife attacker go on in peace to knife other people
-engage in honourable melee combat with the knife attacker whilst not having a melee weapon
-engage movie mode and shoot the knife out of his hand >

I think most people are just surprised about the cops. I used to think cops were trained in hand to hand combat and how to disable someone.
If there was ever a case where one might expect a cop to do something other than shoot the person it’s a double amputee. >

I appreciate your perspective. Thank you for sharing!
EDIT: Just to clarify, however, I've never heard of law enforcement officers being trained to engage in hand-to-hand combat against assailants with knives or guns. You should never attempt to engage in hand-to-hand combat with a person who is wielding a knife (as a cop or civilian) and should also never match a lethal weapon with a less-than-lethal weapon. >

One more time for the cheap seats:
YOUR mental health is YOUR responsibility. If you have problems, (and who doesn't?) you need to be getting help LONG before you're stabbing people and getting shot by the police. >

Where does it say the passerby died?  Wasn’t in the article. >


In the second video, recorded at a nearby location, Lowe is seen a few blocks away from the gas station in a confrontation with police. An officer appears to flip him out of his wheelchair and onto the sidewalk. Lowe lifts himself onto his lower limbs and begins to scramble away. Police walk after Lowe, who turns toward them and motions over his head as he holds a large knife. Police continue to follow him and then shoot him. He crumples to the ground before the video cuts out.

Doesn't sound like the police tried much beside shooting him. >

He stabbed a bystander before this and threatened to throw his knife at the officers so it really doesn't look good for him. Proved to be a wanton threat to everyone in his vicinity. >

Committing a crime, especially during a mental health crisis, doesn’t mean you should be murdered by police in the street. >

He viciously stabbed someone at random... >

Punishment is death without trial by peers? >

Police officers do not do punishment they do enforcement. The cops shooting this guy had zero to do with punishment and everything to do with the guy not dropping the knife and acting in a threatening manner. >

I think you’re confused as to what enforcing means. Enforcing would be to arrest him and charge him with assault. >

By that logic every time a police officer shoots and kills someone, it's punishment. Do you agree with that? I don't >

lmao hard to know in the US since this happens literally over a thousand times a year, but yeah cops are just "enforcing" laws in those cases probably >

It's fair. It's also fair to mention that the police are not meant to be judge, jury, and executioner. Other countries seem to manage such cases without killing the person. >

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