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More Zelensky theatre
This is a good diplomatic move by Ukraine, it's basically "hey we appreciate that you're helping us by providing us with drones so we want to help you in your time of need however we can" >

also Turkey is the only NATO member opposing new membership of countries which are opposed to Russia's invasion, theyre trying to cozy up >

Yup, once Finland and Sweden announces humanitarian aid it'll really force the hand of Erdogan. >

sweden is sending 7M SEK in humanitarian aid >

~$657k for the Americans
Re: the snarky comments about the amount:
Chill. Sweden gives out quite a bit of money in aid every year. I have no doubt Sweden will be sending more money as the situation unfolds. Now stop filling my inbox with your dumb comments about how they’re not sending a lot, thanks >

That number is only going to grow.  That’s just what has been announced so far, less than 24 hours after the event. >

Bro until the aftershocks and new magnitude 6+ stop popping up every hour, it's still ongoing as far as I'm concerned.
4 major shakes(6+) so far and 50+ at 2.5+ >

7.8 and a 7.6 in such quick succession is going to level city blocks >

So hard to conceptualize two earthquakes of that magnitude in succession like that. >

these appear to be occurring along the East Anatolian Fault Zone.  
ruptures on one section of a fault zone can increase stress in another.  that's why of why aftershocks occur, and potentially even additional earthquakes that could be considered their own mainshocks. >

The Turkish people are grateful.
Is Erdogen? >

Turkey has been doing one very important thing for Ukraine that no one else has so far.  Which is escorting its grain shipments at sea.     
That shit is super intense and right on the edges of direct conflict.    
Fuck Erdogan in a million ways and they have still been helping out. >

Honestly Erdogan’s outright support Ukraine has shocked me, not that he would’ve fully supported Russia but I would’ve figure him to just kinda be silent like India. >

Because turkey has traditionally played off both sides. They have to. The Turks and Russians have be historical enemies. Just because they're friendly doesn't make them friendly. >

Exactly this. People don't realize that Erdogan / Turkey are still playing both sides. I just saw a report (either here or on twitter) that they were sending RU non-military (but for the military) supplies.
Turkey is doing whatever Turkey can do to make money since their economy crashed these last few years. They want to be the regional leader which is why they also want to help negotiate any deals possible. >

People definitely realize that he’s playing both sides. But he’s a treaty ally of one side. Turkey is committed to play one side only and they’re playing doing both. >

But being apart of NATO doesn't mean you can't play buddy buddy with a potential enemy, especially when that enemy is right next to you.  Turkey was in a rough spot before this, to say the least.  Its not a good thing, but it seems to me they kind of had to.  
However, if push comes to shove, I'd bet my bottom dollar Turkey abides by Article 5. >

The value of NATO is in its members trust of each other. Turkey has again and again violated that trust. Of course they have the right to do it. But no one else has to put up with their neo ottoman bullshit. >

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 50%. (I'm a bot)


President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky expressed his condolences to President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Turkish people over an earthquake that struck in south-eastern Turkey.
Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba said in a tweet that Ukraine is ready to provide any necessary support to overcome the consequences of today's earthquake.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of life and damage caused by today's tragic earthquake in Türkiye. Our heart goes out to the families of the victims and we wish a speedy recovery to the injured. Ukraine stands ready to provide any necessary support," Kuleba wrote.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: earthquake^#1 Turkey^#2 people^#3 President^#4 Turkish^#5 >

Sadly, Ukraine has all too much recent experience searching for survivors of collapsed buildings.  Their assistance will be very beneficial to Turkiye. >

Honest question - why Turkiye for Turkey but not Ukraïna for Ukraine? >

I don’t know if I have an answer that would satisfy you.  It’s just an inadvertent act at this point.  I did a lot of reports on the country formally known as Turkey a while back so the spelling just became instinctive. >

I don't know what you meant by an answer that would satisfy me, but I appreciate your reply >

Oh, I just meant that it was kind of a bland, non-answer. Pretty boring now that I am thinking about it. >

Takes a lot of fortitude to be able to offer aid with what they're going through themselves. Kudos to Ukraine for stepping up! It should also be a swift kick in the gonads to Russia! >

Ukrainian people- we love you, we're pushing our politicians top send you everything you need to defend yourselves and push back the barbarian horde attacking you.
Your heart is in the right place, but we've got this, you focus on staying alive and doing everything possible to free your country from the subhuman goblins deciding to attack you. >

I could ik imagine Ukraine may be in a unique position to help here. By now they probably have a ton of resources lying around for collapsed buildings and for housing people. I don't know if they can get any of it to Turkey though >

How? >

They have had a lot of experience of extracting people from collapsed buildings over the past year, unfortunately. >

true, but aren't those people still needed? >

After seeing Russian capabilities.. probably not as bad as a year ago. >

It's as bad as it has ever been... >

Maybe Putin will be a decent human for once and pause the war so we can all concentrate on helping Turkey… not >

he was the first one to offer help >

Putin says a lot of things. He sure as hell is not stopping his offensives for the sake of helping Turkey. >

Russian rescuer's already flying to Turkey and Syria..
Turkey already accepted the help. 
Please let's not politicise natural disasters all the world should send rescuer's and help Turkey, even Greece has expressed condolences.. >

If you think Putin is doing this with ANY sort of empathy/sympathy to a natural disaster... I have a bridge to sell you.
 
Cunt is playing "good guy" on one hand while the other is indiscriminately murdering civilians. >

I think if there was no war in Ukraine Russia would have still helped out with the earthquake in Turkey cuz these are two unrelated events. And these two countries have a close relationship plus they aren't that far from eachother, so it would make sense for them to help eachother. I don't understand why this is being politicised here?
 That being said, no one said he's doing this outta kindness of his heart. I was correcting someone who said Russia isn't helping out in this earthquake, which isn't a correct statement.
If the same happened in Russia, wouldn't Turkey offer help? 
In Natural disasters countries help eachother, simply.
Why does everything even natural disasters need to be politicised? >

You're trying to speak rationally. That doesn't fly on reddit >

By that logic, none of redditor's opinions should be ever considered seriously. >

Oops I dropped my monster HIMARS for my magnum firing solution. >

Everyone will understand if Ukraine sits this one out >

They need Turkey’s approval to get into NATO. Same with Sweden and Finland. This is prime political opportunity, and it would aid more lives. >

Turkey has given their upfront approval for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO. >

Ukraine never ceases to impress me. A country full of brave and charitable people. >

There is your chance Sweden... >

Sweden’s 1 of the many countries that’s sending aid to Turkey. >

Dear Ukraine, I'm sure Turkey appreciates the desire to help.  But we all think you currently have your hands full at the moment.  Thanks anyways.  - The World. >

Reminds me of lilo and stitch where she says she wants to buy him, and then asks her sister to borrow the money >

That's pretty cash money of them >

I don't think you've got the facilities for that big man >

Good opportunity for Sweden to put their diplomacy into good use and offer any assistance they can in order to help their nato bid >

Literal protagonist country >

Very good heart Ukraine >

Turkey gonna ask everyone to help all they have to do is not let that one country into NATO >

Ukraine… please focus on your own problems right now you’re about to get hit with the biggest offensive since the war started >

Hey Sweden, now’s your chance to get in Turkey’s good graces. Get that NATO request signed. >

Where is Russias help now? >

in Turkey >

They’re just going to sign over the check the US gave them. Makes sense, I guess >

Love this. >

Classy move Zelinski >

Thanks people of Ukraine.I hope this stupid war is over as soon as possible.Many of brave ukrainen dies this war.We are so sad about it.Covid, War and now Earthquake.Everthing goes bad for some people. >

Wars usually last more than 3+ years. Especially if the war is with 2st country in the world. >

Nice of Ukraine to offer aid but they have too much on their plate to follow through at this time. >

Wasn't turkey making trouble with other Nato members ? >

??… well…. They do have plenty of $$$ now >

Russia: "What earthquake?" >

Russia has already done so. This seems like a worldwide effort to help the Turkish and Syrian people. >

Huh? >

The country as a whole is not a war zone... >

How good is the Ukrainian economy atm? I think the economy is in tatters since the invasion? >

The economy has stabilized somewhat due to Western financial aid and is on war time footing at the moment. This look ok-ish for 2023, but it will still need decades of support for the rebuilding phase post-war.  
They may feel they can provide other forms of aid tho, like urban search and rescue. >

That makes sense, thanks. >

Lok >

So basically US sending aid thru Urkraine, got it >

"we still got $70B to hook you up with buddy. What ya want?" >

They could send them some of that $2B dollars. 
Or whatever insane amount we're up to. >

With whose money.... >

Turkey inching toward dictatorship...this earthquake may turn the tables for them when they recieve help from others. >

It’s not time for politics right now. Peoples lives are at danger, and we as human beings should help them as much as we can. >

Same thing republicans always say after a mass shooting. >

It seems like making everything political is in your dna >

Astute rebuttal >

It may be a cruel comment, but where were the Turks helping out in digging the kids out of the bombed out theater ?
Life Karma? We’ll never know. >

When Russia makes Ukrainian buildings crumble, turkey responds by blocking NATO memberships and increasing trade with Russia. They should feel real lucky the rest of the world doesn’t treat them the way they do Ukraine >

What if russia sends aid? Will we see aid on aid combat wounding each other and then patching echt other up in an endless cycle of wound-heal-wound-heal. >

It already did, so now we have a perfect chance to test how it goes. But after that soccer player handshake fiasco it is the only way i suppose. >

“War with Russia?  Don’t worry we’ve got that taken care of, what can we get you?” >

EU funds redirected? >

Not the worst way to spend it tbh. Situation in some parts seems extremely bad, even compared to Ukraine. >

Much worst, imagine if half of ukraine was leveled like bakmut overnight