For a long time I have had the misconception that tournaments are for dumber players and in retort people told me they are just different but one isn't better than the other for profiting. This is impossible because if two things are different, one will be better at a specific task than another (at least by a minute degree).
The fact of the matter is that all a cash game is, is a tournament where your M-zone is always equal to your BB. Make decisions you'd make in a tournament with the M-zone set equal to your buy-in and you will understand that all a cash game is a perpetual early-game tournament setting.
Tournaments aren't different because they end, they are different because of the maximum loss and minimum gain and THIS is why ultimately you can make more at cash games than tournaments on average because you have no cap on the amount that your exploitative hands on other's profit you in real hard cash.
I agree that tournaments are more thrilling though and will keep playing them as you can't become a top tier world renowned poker player if you sit at cash games all day. We must ask ourselves if glory or raw profit matters more and for me it was always both so I will get better at tournaments but I will know that cash games are my fallback if I have a couple losing sessions.
it is always possible to get into the prize zone in the tournament and get a win, and the cash games are good because you can win money in a short time!
I haven't been playing live games very long, but I usually go to the casino on tournament nights/days expecting that if I go felt I can make my buy-in up in the cash games. It's worked pretty well so far, but I've been wary of being on tilt after a bad tournament beat. Usually I'll give myself 15-30 minutes before I try to recoup my tourney losses at a cash table.
I have heard that before too - from cash players. But there are some pretty smart tournament players out there too.
The problem with this line of thinking is the assumption that you will always win regardless of which you play. yes, Cash Games can result in a much higher profit, but it can also result in a much higher loss rate if you are having a bad day or week.
Second, this only holds true for min cashes and/or small tournaments. Yeah, going from $5 to $100 after winning a 6 hour tournament isn't a monstrous ROI, but play in a 10,000 player tourney and take home first and your ROI will rival that of a good cash game session.
And finally, because tournies have changing strategies based on blind and stack sizes, I would argue that tournaments require more intellect than cash games because there are more strategieis. As you said, Cash Game is like ONLY the first part of a tournament, whereas the tournament has MANY parts.
With that said, I do prefer cash games to tournaments, unless the buy-in to 1st place ratio is massive.
You may be right, but you should also take into account that the potential losses from the game in cash games can also be larger. I prefer tournaments.
Personally I think, that tournament poker is more sporting then cash game that is more gambling just because in the tournament you can't lose much money. So, I prefer the tournament poker. But If you never lose self-control and have strong phycology the cash game will be more profit.
I would say people would generally call more ranges in MTT rather than cash games. Probably because of how deep you are in a MTT. But I do agree that you can make more money in the long haul in cash games than you would in MTT.
I prefer tournaments you will not lose much if the game does not go there is a fixed amount.
They are different. Similar but different. So are people. The trick is figuring out which is most profitable for you.
then again....in a sense, I'd also like to be Jamie Gold.
and name a poker pro who doesn't want that guy at their table!
For a long time I had the misconception that tournaments are more stupid players and replita people told me that they are just different, but not better than the other for profit. This is impossible, because if two things are different, one can cope better with the specific task of another (at least one minute).
The point is that all cash game is a tournament where your M-zone is always equal to your BB. Make decisions that you would in a tournament with M-zone set equal to your entry fee, and you'll find that all cash games are timeless settings of the tournament.
The tournaments are no different because the end, they differ because the maximum loss and margins and therefore ultimately you can do more in cash games than the average for tournaments because you have no ceiling on the amount that your exploitative hands have other profit in real cash.
I agree that tournaments are more exciting and will continue to play them because you can not become the world's best known poker players if you are sitting on cash games all day. We must ask ourselves whether or raw glory profits are more important to me has always been both, so it will get better in tournaments, but will know that cash games are my reserve if I have a few losses.
I think cash games and tournaments differ and there is no basis for comparison some players are better at cash games and in others no good. In tournament you have to play 6 or 7 hours before you get first places and win, while cash games can become when you you want. Also so in both formats should invest different amounts to win.