And that particularly happened -- there was one in my life -- is this Council of Dads that Linda said, what we were talking about, it's like what the moms talk about at school drop-off.
在我生活中，就有个实实在在的例子－ 爸爸军团， 琳达说：我们所谈论的， 就像妈妈们在送完孩子上学后聊天的话题