Now that argument, I made that argument 30 -- oh my God, I don't want to think about it — more than 30 years ago, but there's a deeper argument implicit in what I've told you, and I want to tell you that argument briefly, and that is, consciousness creates an observer-independent reality.
说到那个论据，30年前我就提出了—— 天啊，我不愿去想都过去这么多年了—— 是30多年前才对 但是我刚才告诉你们的论据里还有更深的含义 我就简单给你们说说那个论据： 意识创造了“观察者独立”的现实