And even when I first flew in the shuttle back in 1995, 74 shuttle flight, the odds were still now that we look back about one in 38 or so -- one in 35, one in 40.
甚至当我在穿梭机首飞 早在 1995 年，74 次航天飞行， 当我们现在回头看几率是 大约每 38 个左右—— 每 35 个、每 40 个有一个失败。