And within these conversations, I started hearing the connections between the businesses and the people, and how laws that were meant to protect them were being underused, while gross and illegal punitive measures were overused.
在这些对话中 我逐渐了解了这些企业 与民众之间的关系 也了解到那些应该保护人们的法律 如何没有好好地被利用 反之，粗暴而违法的处罚成为常态