CA: I mean, the psychologist Erik Erikson says that -- as I understand him and I'm a total amateur -- but that during 30s, 40s people are driven by this desire to grow and that's where they get their fulfillment.
克：心理学家埃里克森说过，并且我也赞同 不过我并非专家，他说，人在30、40岁时 会极渴望成长，这样会达到满足的境界