Let me give you an example: in Turkey where I come from, which is a very hyper-secular republic, until very recently we used to have what I call secularism police, which would guard the universities against veiled students.
让我来举例说明一下：以我出生的土耳其来说 直到最近之前 它都是一个非常非宗教性的国家 我们以前有一种警察，我们称之为政教分离警察 他们警戒着大学 不允许学生带面纱