But any kind of conversation about architecture -- which is, in fact, what you were just talking about, what was going on here, setting up TED, small-scale architecture -- at the present time can't really happen without a conversation about this, the World Trade Center, and what's been going on there, what it means to us.
可是任何一种关于建筑的谈话-- 比如现在我们在说着的 搭一个TED会场，小规模建筑-- 似乎总不能避免谈到这个： 世贸中心和那边在进行的事情，它对我们的意义