And a lot of rituals involved killing, killing little animals, progressing along, so when I turned 13 -- and, I mean, it made sense, it was an agrarian community, somebody had to kill the animals, there was no Whole Foods you could go and get kangaroo steak at -- so when I turned 13, it was my turn now to kill a goat.
很多仪式和杀有关，就是杀死小动物， 贯穿整个仪式，我满13岁的时候—— 恩……这是一个农业社会， 必须有人来捕杀动物， 那里没有全食市场你可以去烤袋鼠—— 我满13岁的时候，该我来杀一只山羊。