So I'd like to take the idea that Rory Sutherland talked about, this notion that intangible things are worth perhaps more than physical things, and take that a little bit further and say that I think the design of participatory systems, in which many more forms of value beyond simply cash are both created and measured, is going to be the major theme, not only for design, but also for our economy as we go forward.
所以我想引用Rory Sutherland说过的一个概念， 就是也许无形的东西比有形的物质更有价值， 再延伸一下就是说， 我认为可参与系统的设计 是一个对于超越金钱的 多种价值观的 设计和衡量， 并且这个会成为不仅仅是设计的核心， 也是在我们发展进程中经济的核心。