And all the people -- and I think there's a lot of people at TED who do things because -- even though there's not an immediate return on the investment because it will only really pay off when everybody else has done it -- they'll do it because they're the sort of person who just does things which would be good if everybody else did them.
而且所有人 -- 我想在TED的大部分人 他们做事情并不是为了要使投资得到立即的回报 因为只有当每个人都这么做了才会有所回报 他们将会这么做，因为他们是那类人 那类希望每个人都参与进来而让事情变好的人