And if we can agree on both a value and a way of measuring whether we've been successful at reducing that re-offending, then we can do something we think rather interesting.
如果我们能认同这种价值 并商定一种衡量我们是否 成功降低重犯率的方式， 那么我们就可以实施一些 我们认为有趣的想法。