And so I got myself a job and I was working for a consultancy, and we would get in to these meetings, and these managers would come in, and they would say, "Well, what we're going to do here is really important, you know."
我找到一份工作，在设计顾问公司上班， 我们会去参加会议， 经理们进来， 他们会说： "我们要做的事，真的很重要。"