And I taught myself design this way, and this was sort of my early years, and I used these things in really goofy ways on record covers and in my design.
我教会了我自己用这种方式设计， 这就是我的早年经历， 我用这些东西 以一些很拙劣的方式 放在唱片封面上和我的设计里面。