CA: And if someone could convince you that we actually can make the -- what was it? -- the 130-fold improvement in efficiency, of reduction of carbon footprint, would you then actually like that picture of economic growth into more knowledge-based goods?
克里斯 安德森：如果某人想要说服你 其实我们可以做到--那个是什么来着？-- 一百三十倍的效能改进， 来降低碳， 那你是否会喜欢将经济增长构想 于更多的以知识为基础的商品上呢？