So everybody starts laughing, starts breathing, notices that there's other scientists around them with shared issues, and we start talking about the emotional and subjective things that go on in research.
大家都开始笑，开始喘气了， 请注意这里还有其他一些 被这些共同的问题包围的科学家， 而我们却开始谈论感性 和主观这类会继续在研究中出现的东西。