John Hockenberry: So it sounds to me like what you're saying is that there may be some temptation on the part of people to look at your work and go -- I think I've heard this, in my kind of pop psychological understanding of play, that somehow, the way animals and humans deal with play, is that it's some sort of rehearsal for adult activity.
约翰胡可巴里：我的理解是你要说的是 可能有一部分人诱惑的 看着你的工作 我想我听到过这个，在我对玩耍的流行精神学上的理解是， 那就是， 动物和人类对玩耍的， 是成人活动的一种排练。