As a matter of fact he did know Willie Brown, and Willie Brown and Herbie and I had dinner four years ago, and we started drawing out that center on the tablecloth.
实际上，他确实认识威利布朗。 威利布朗、赫比和我四年前一起吃晚餐， 我们开始在桌布上描绘那个中心的蓝图。