But I got a phone call from Bono in 1985 and, as you know, he's a great singer, but he's a magnificent hustler, and --  -- a very hard guy to say no to, and he was saying, you know, just after I'd done the Biko song, we're going to do a tour for Amnesty, you have to be on it, and really that was the first time that I'd been out and started meeting people
但是我在1985年接到了波诺的电话 你们知道，他是个优秀的歌手，但他是个惊人的说服者，  我很难对他说不。 在我刚做完歌曲"Biko"后，他说， 我们正要给“特赦”组织做一个巡演， 你一定得参与。于是，那是第一次我真正地 出来开始认识一些人