JH: So what all of these cases have in common is that the self seems to thin out, or melt away, and it feels good, it feels really good, in a way totally unlike anything we feel in our normal lives.
乔纳森·海特：所有这些例子的共同特点就是 "自我"这个概念似乎淡化了或者消失了 而这种感觉很好， 真得很好 完全不同于我们在普通生活中所经历的感觉