And it was interesting to me -- my background is in sociology; I had no design training, and sometimes people say, well, that explains it -- but it was a very interesting experiment because there's no product that I had to sell; it was simply the image of Microsoft they were trying to improve.
挺有意思的 我是学社会学的；没受过设计训练 有时人们说，怪不得你不靠谱 但这真是个好玩的实验 因为没有什么产品要我推销 他们只想改善Microsoft的品牌形象