Jon Ronson: You know, I think the very best thing we can do, if you see a kind of unfair or an ambiguous shaming, is to speak up, because I think the worst thing that happened to Justine was that nobody supported her -- like, everyone was against her, and that is profoundly traumatizing, to be told by tens of thousands of people that you need to get out.
JR: 我认为，我们现在能做的， 就是一旦发现有人在信口开河地乱喷， 就应该大声指出来，因为我认为 对贾丝婷来说最不幸的是 没有人为她说话—— 似乎每个人都跟她对着干， 这是最让人寒心的， 成千上万的人让你滚出去。