But the fact that we have citizens walking around with hard drives picking up data from city agencies to make it public -- it was already kind of public, you could get to it, but it was "public," it wasn't public.
但是实际上市民为了使数据公开， 需要带着装有市政部门数据的 硬盘走来走去—— 这已经是一种公开性质的， 你们都可以得到， 不过它虽说是“公开”的， 但并不是真正意义上的“公开”。