Richard, I think very correctly, made the point at the beginning -- before all the chair designers came out -- about the history of chair designers imposing aesthetic solutions on this kind of universal, banal, common problem of sitting.
我记得理查德 在刚开始就提到-- 就是在所有的项目首席设计师意识到之前-- 他说一直以来首席设计师 对这种很平常的设计问题都追求一种审美方案。