SB: Well, I think the only way I know to do it is to have accumulated the advisers that I have who go from practitioners -- who can establish through improvisational play or clowning or whatever -- a state of play.
SB:恩，我想我只知道能这样做， 那就是累计我得到的建议： 那些从医生 -- 那些可以建立计息玩耍或小丑或其他-- 一种玩耍的状态。