Bruno Giussani: I want to ask a couple of questions, Dambisa, because one could react to your last sentence by saying growth is also an ideology, it's possibly the dominant ideology of our times.
（鼓掌） 主持人Bruno Giussani： 我想问你一些问题，丹碧莎, 因为人们可以回应你的最后一句话， 说增长本身也是一种意识形态， 它本身还可能是我们这一时代最主要的一个。