And then the second one is -- if they feel like it, and they're not going to do it in every case, but in many they are -- they want to actually be able to sell that creation as a way of providing for their own livelihood.
第二件是——如果他们喜欢 虽不一定在任何情况下都这样做，人们大都会 希望卖掉他们创造的东西 来获得利益