So, these two things, you know, if they get people's attention and drive home the positive correlation and people do what's in their self-interests, which is further the moral evolution, then they could actually have a constructive effect.
所以这两个方面--人们注意到并且认可这种正相关性， 并且他们从自己的利益出发-- 促成了道德的进一步发展， 那么，可以看到一些建设性作用。