And when I'm talking about a long lifetime, of course, I don't want somebody who's 200 years old to be like our image of what a 200-year-old is -- which is dead, actually.
所以当我谈论到一个长的人生寿命，当然 我不想有人活了200岁，却长得非常 的老，像现在想像的200岁一样---事实上，已经死掉。