And out of that, you get the need for the kind of things that Jimmy was talking about, which is our new kinds of organization, or a better way to put it: how do we organize ourselves without organizations?
从这中间，你也感到 对于吉米所讲的一类东西的需求，也就是我们新的组织形式， 换种更好的方式说： 我们怎么样能够不用某种组织形式来组织我们自己？