I have to tell you I had the CEO of a major, major oil and gas company come to me at the beginning of last year and say -- privately, of course -- he did not know how he was going to change his company, but he is going to change it, because he's interested in long-term viability.
我必须和你说，有个在非常大型的石油和天然气公司 任职的首席执行官， 在去年年初的时候找到我， 和我说道 -- 当然，是私底下 -- 他当时不知道该如何改变 目前的公司状况， 但是他又这个打算， 因为他看中的是公司长久的可行性。