And one of the problems that we face, I think, is that the only people that have cornered the market in terms of progress is a financial definition of what progress is, an economic definition of what progress is -- that somehow, if we get the right numbers to go up, we're going to be better off, whether that's on the stock market, whether that's with GDP and economic growth, that somehow life is going to get better.
我认为我们面对的问题之一, 是那些操纵了市场的人: 在定义进步的时候 是用金钱来定义进步， 是用经济来定义进步 -- 他们说，通过某些办法, 只要我们让某些恰当的项目的数值增加， 那么我们就会好起来。 无论是股市也好, 国民生产总值也好, 或者经济增长也好, 只要是增长，生活就会好起来。