So the five of us, two Americans, two Italians and a Spaniard, we —  You know, it's a worldwide project.  So we came together in this design institute called the Interaction Design Institute Ivrea, which was teaching interaction design, this idea that you can take design from the simple shape of an object and you can move it forward to design the way you interact with things.
一共五个人，两个美国人，两个意大利人 一个西班牙人 这确实，是一个全球项目 我们都在伊夫雷亚 互动设计研究所工作 这个研究所 研究的是如何 设计出 形状简单 但能够与人互动的设备 这种设备