What I want to persuade you of today is of a very simple claim, which is that these debates are in a certain sense preposterous, because there is no such thing as religion about which to make these claims.
而我今天想和大家分享的 只是一个很简单的想法: 所有的这些争论 在某种程度上都是荒谬的， 因为这个世界上根本没有宗教这种东西， 所以也就不应该产生这些观点。