And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
当我和那里的人们交谈的时候 我记得我有次在伊拉克 有人问我 我们现在眼前所见到的这些暴乱 那时我们眼前是一大群暴徒洗劫省政府大楼的情景 是否是新的民主政权的标志？