And when I became editor-in-chief after my brother actually -- my father passed away in 1999, and then my brother until 2005 -- and everybody was betting that I will not be able to do it.
当我成为主编的时候， 事实上是在我哥哥之后—— 我父亲在1999年去世， 之后到2005年一直是我哥哥作主编—— 所有人都打赌说，我做不下来。