CA: And if someone could convince you that we actually can make the -- what was it? -- the 130-fold improvement in efficiency, of reduction of carbon footprint, would you then actually like that picture of economic growth into more knowledge-based goods?
CA: Si daca cineva poate sa te convinga ca noi chiar putem face - ce era? -- o imbunatatire in eficienta de 130 de ori, o reducere a amprentei de carbon, atunci ti-ar placea imaginea cresterii economice in mai multe bunuri bazate pe cunoastere?