SB: Well, I think the only way I know to do it is to have accumulated the advisers that I have who go from practitioners -- who can establish through improvisational play or clowning or whatever -- a state of play.
SB: Pai, cred ca singurul mod in care stiu sa fac asta este sa acumulez consultanti ca cei pe care ii am: dintre practicanti -- care pot construi de la joaca improvizata si a fi clovn sau orice alt fel -- o stare de joaca.