JM: Well, you know, ugly, I mean, powerful and tragic and horrific and everything, but it was also as, in nature, an enormous event that was transformed after the fact into this residue, and like many other ruins — you go to the ruins of the Colosseum or the ruins of a cathedral someplace — and they take on a new meaning when you watch the weather.
JM: A fost urât, adică puternic şi tragic şi oribil, dar de asemenea, ca în natură, un eveniment enorm transformat apoi în propriile reziduuri, şi asemeni multor ruine - dacă mergeţi la Coloseum sau la ruinele unei catedrale - capătă un nou sens privite prin prisma timpului.