So we've made some progress, partially because I was president and so forth --   -- but in the last 15 years, there's been no progress made, so it's been just about 23 or 24 percent difference for the last 15 years.
Dus er is wat vooruitgang geboekt ...deels omdat ik president was en zo verder --   -- maar in de laatste 15 jaar is er geen vooruitgang geboekt, dus is er ongeveer 23 of 24% verschil, al 15 jaar lang.