TK: Well, look, I think -- I've been an entrepreneur since I've been in high school and you have -- In various different ways an entrepreneur will see hard times and for us, it was about a year and a half ago, and for us it was hard times, too.
トラビス：私は 高校の頃から起業家でした 起業家というのは いろいろな困難に直面します 私たちにとって １年半前が そんな場面で 私たちにも辛い時期でした