But the point here is they were able to deny their instincts for survival using exactly the same systems that were put there to make them survive. That's a lot of control, okay?
しかし ここでの重要な点は 生存のために発達した― 神経伝達物質系を使い 生存本能が― 否定されたことです これにはかなりのコントロールが必要です