CA: I mean, the psychologist Erik Erikson says that -- as I understand him and I'm a total amateur -- but that during 30s, 40s people are driven by this desire to grow and that's where they get their fulfillment.
CA: 心理学の素人である私の理解によればですが 心理学者のエリック・エリクソンいわく30〜40代で人は 成長欲求に突き動かされ そこに充足感を得る