This kind of work is also very much like puppetry, where the found object is, in a sense, the puppet, and I'm the puppeteer at first, because I'm playing with an object.
（拍手） こういう作品はまるで人形使いのようです 拾ったのが、一種の操り人形で 私が人形使い　最初は私がモノと遊んでいるが