ويوجد عادة معنا متطوعون رجال . يجلسون معنا هناك كانوا يستمعون اليه ايضاً وقال " وكانت تلك هي بداية محنتنا .. الطويلة حتى وصلنا الى اسرائيل ..
And he says -- because I also have volunteers riding with me, adults, who are sitting there listening to him -- and he says, "And this was just the beginning of our ordeal until we ended up in Israel.