وكان لدينا نوعان من الأشخاص . كان لدينا الأشخاص الذين بنوها ، ولدينا الأشخاص الذين لم يبنونها و فقط نظروا لها كمراقبين خارجيين .
And we had two types of people: We had the people who built it, and the people who did not build it, and just looked at it as external observers.