قلت له : " لدي فكرة رائعة جدا والتي ستكون بمثابة نقلة لمؤسستك"  ولم أرغب بمشاركته الفكرة عبر الهاتف ، فقمت بإقناعه بلقائي في ملبورن لشرب القهوة، في عام 2004
I said to him, "I've got the most amazing idea that's going to transform your organization."  And I didn't want to share with him the idea over the phone, so I convinced him to meet with me for coffee in Melbourne in 2004.