أما كيف بدأ إهتمامي بهذا الموضوع كان عندما لاحظت في نفسي وأنا أكبر وإلى بضع سنين مضت أنني أود أن أشكر أحدهم وأشيد بهم وأردت أن أقبل إشادتهم بي ولكني أتوقف
And the way I got interested in this was, I noticed in myself, when I was growing up, and until about a few years ago, that I would want to say thank you to someone, I would want to praise them, I would want to take in their praise of me and I'd just stop it.