translation.en: So -- again, this is five years ago -- so doing journalism and virtual reality together was considered a worse-than-half-baked idea, and I had no funding.
translation.zh: 于是——重申一下，这是五年前—— 把记者的工作和虚拟现实结合在一起 是一个全新的想法，前途未卜， 而且我没有任何基金支持。