translation.en: So there's a big change, and that division, that intellectual division of labor occurs as I say, I think, of the 19th century in Europe, there's a real intellectual division of labor, and you can do all sorts of serious things, including, increasingly, even philosophy, without being constrained by the thought, "Well, what I have to say has to be consistent with the deep truths that are given to me by our religious tradition."
translation.zh: 这是一个非常大的改变，这种分离， 这种智慧与劳动力的分离，我认为， 在十九世纪末期的欧洲 得到了加深。 因为那时候出现了真正的智力与劳动力的分离， 你可以做各种各样严谨的研究， 其中包括各种各样的领域，甚至包括哲学， 而且不用被当时的思想所禁锢： “我所说的话必须始终如一的 贯穿在宗教传统教义的 真理中。”