translation.en: So you see, it's almost like a Pavlovian -- we lost the first hundred years of psychology by really trivial theories, where you say, how do people learn how to react to a situation? What I'm saying is, after we go through a lot of levels, including designing a huge, messy system with thousands of ports, we'll end up again with the central problem of psychology.
translation.zh: 所以你看，它就像一个巴甫洛夫 我们丧失一开始几百年的心理学 因为一些无用的理论存在着， 比如：人们如何在某种场合下做出合适的回应？ 我要说的是， 在我们经历过各式各样的知识层面，包括设计 一个包含几千个组件的庞大复杂系统， 我们最后得出一个核心的心理学问题