translation.en: After clay, I was then kind of turned on to lots of different kinds of materials, and my studio grew a lot because I thought, well, it's not really about the material, it's about our capacity to shape things.
translation.zh: 在黏土之后，我开始 尝试使用各种不同的材料， 我的工作室也在日益扩大，因为我觉得 这不仅仅关乎材料的选用， 更是关于我们塑造事物的能力。