translation.en: It's not as if I had any idea what it would look like, but there was a sense that we would have to do something with new categories of workers and something having to do with behavior change and something having to do with public education.
translation.zh: 不是说我知道应该怎么做， 我是觉得我们需要 和一种全新类别的工作者一起来解决这个问题。 这样的新方案应该可以改变人们的行为， 这样的新方案应该用公共教育的方式来实行。