translation.en: But the point is, by constantly depicting the state part as necessary but actually -- pffff -- a bit boring and often a bit dangerous kind of Leviathan, I think we've actually really stunted the possibility to build these public-private partnerships in a really dynamic way.
translation.zh: 但问题是,政府部门通常被描述成 一个必要的存在， 但实际上 — —噗 — — 有点呆板 一个通常会带来危险的利维坦。 我想我们真的在阻碍， 以一种真正动态的方式 去建立“公共-私人”伙伴关系的可能性。