translation.en: Now, people like things that have, like, names like that, that they can envision it, right? I mean -- but people don't like things like this, so -- most -- I mean, you don't get all excited about things like the actual evidence, you know, which would be evidence for strengthening of the tropical circulation in the 1990s.
translation.zh: 所以说，人们喜欢这种牛皮哄哄的东西，新名词儿， 你可以凭空想象，对不对？我是说 — 人们不喜欢实事求是，他们 — 大多数人 — 我是说 你不容易对具体的数据感到兴奋， 那些实实在在的证据，你知道， 那些可以证明 二十世纪九十年代的热带环流现象的证据。