translation.en: I've been working on issues of poverty for more than 20 years, and so it's ironic that the problem that and question that I most grapple with is how you actually define poverty. What does it mean?
translation.zh: 我已经研究贫困问题二十多年了， 所以颇具讽刺意味的一件事就是我最多在挣扎的问题 是你到底上怎么定义贫困。贫困的意思是什么？