translation.en: And even when we explained that if ABE goes away, all those 7,500 jobs go away too, we sometimes have this bifurcation between business and the social.
translation.zh: 当我们向他们假如ABE撤走了， 那么那七千五百个岗位也将丢失， 我们有时会遇到商业营利与社会援助的分歧。