translation.en: Andy also talks about the fact that our ocean conservation movement really grew out of the land conservation movement, and in land conservation, we have this problem where biodiversity is at war with food production.
translation.zh: 安迪还说， 海洋保护运动的力度 已经超过了土地保护运动， 在土地保护运动中 生物多样性与食品生产 有非常大的矛盾。