translation.en: And so the debates about copyright, digital rights, so on and so forth -- these are all about trying to stifle, in my view, these kinds of organizations.
translation.zh: 于是就产生了对于 版权，数字版权，等等的争辩―― 所有这些都是在企图扼杀，在我看来， 这种类型的组织。