translation.en: And when somebody gets up, in fact, to go answer a phone or use a bathroom or something, the empty seat becomes, if you will, that person. And you point frequently to the empty seat and you say, "He or she wouldn't agree," and the empty chair is that person and the spatiality is crucial.
translation.zh: 当一个人站起来，去接电话或者 使用卫生间或干别的事情，空的位子就是那个人， 如果你希望，就是那个人。你可以指出那个空位， 然后你说“他或她不同意。” 然后那个人的席位是空的。空间性就变的很关键了。