translation.en: So if we find just the right incentives, they'll do the right thing -- as I said -- selfishly, and if we come up with the right rules and regulations, they won't drive us all over a cliff.
translation.zh: 那样如果我们能找到合适的奖励机制， 他们也会“自私地”，如我所讲，做正确的事情。 所以如果我们能制定正确的规章条例， 他们就不会把我们都拉下悬崖。