translation.en: And so, in 1985, I figured that it would take about 30 years before we'd be able to even begin a strategic litigation, long-term campaign, in order to be able to punch another hole through that wall.
translation.zh: 所以在1985年，我估计需要花费将近30年 才仅仅能够着手一场战略性的诉讼 打这样一场持久战来在隔离墙上砸出一个洞