translation.en: I said to him, "I've got the most amazing idea that's going to transform your organization."  And I didn't want to share with him the idea over the phone, so I convinced him to meet with me for coffee in Melbourne in 2004.
translation.zh: 我对他说，“我有一个最棒的构想 将会改造你的组织。” 我不想在电话里和他分享这个构想 所以我说服他和我在墨尔本见面喝杯咖啡 那时是2004年