translation.en: I don't know a hell of a lot about fashion -- I was told to do what they call a Mary Jane, and then I got into this terrible fight between the art director and the editor saying: "Put a strap on it" -- "No, don't put a strap on it" -- "Put a strap on it -- "Don't put a strap on it" -- because it obscures the logo and looks terrible and it's bad and --
translation.zh: 对时尚，我懂得不多 我被叫来画一个被她们称作玛丽简的鞋 之后我被卷进艺术总监和总编的一场旷日持久的争论中 一个说要鞋带，一个说不要，要，不要 因为要的话就会挡住杂志标题，而且看上去也不美，不好