translation.en: The problem was, after a few years of doing that, I realized -- I had been to maybe six or seven programs -- and I thought, you know, if I keep this up at this pace, over my whole career, maybe I'm going to go to maybe 20 or 30 programs.
translation.zh: 问题是，在那几年之后， 我意识到我已经办到的——我可能已经去了 六、七个组织，然后我想， 你知道，如果我持续进度的话， 在我的整个工作生涯中，我可能会去 大概20到30个组织。