Budsie: you could always count on JM getting  the hockey part of the argument  absolutely correct, not so much for  the Rochester Rocket and the other pretenders on here.  But you are right, when JM got going, he sure could  move fast and loud; there was never a dull moment, when you crossed JM. But overall,  Carrie was always more intelligent  and cooler  than everyone else. He was the real man!