Malik, Actually I am a retired aerospace engineer, & I obviously know a whole lot more about how aircraft work than you do. It takes a lot more thrust to lift a fully loaded plane than an empty one (power vs weight ratio) & thus you have MORE NOISE (basic physics). Besides, I don't (for the last 30 years) live next to a commercial airport & I object to being told that either now I have to (without any VOTE in the matter) either move (which I have no intention of doing), or put up with a new commercial airport which will bring all the problems (mentioned before) associated with it. Also, it should be noted that allowing Paine Field to become a "commercial airport" has been voted DOWN several times & now they are going to do it anyway? What happened to the "will of the people"? & why are they going ahead anyway? I hope that the current case before the State Supreme Court again rejects this plan (despite already starting construction) & this stupidity finally goes away once & for all !!!