mR420 - to your reply:  "Possibly the dumbest comment ever"  The countdown on the poles are meant to give advance notice of when the light changes.  If a "friend" in a borrowed vehicle chooses to ignore the warning, then they can't be looking out for the owner's best interests.  That is not a friend at all, and it's wanton disregard for the rules of civility in a large population base.  Back at you: Yours is possibly the dumbest comment ever.  It's highly probable that the cameras are meant for people like you.