Lots of snowboarders (even a downhill skier) at Hatcher Pass where the new snow is maybe a foot and half or so (not near the depth of the snow base and new snow these heli-skiers are finding higher up). Snowboarders I chatted with called it "good"...but for the rocks they hit. Apparently, a novice would get his/her brains knocked out by hitting rocks...while the expert knows how to slide past the impact and scar only the boards. I used the trails made by snowboarders to get up into the bowl...could have used snowshoes on the rest of it.