The Oregon Ducks band looked more like the old Ducks...probably could have played on the field like the old Ducks. A 4-3 defense require six pretty stout men up front; four to play... two as subs. A 3-4 defense requires a four man secondary line that can close very quickly with a runner. Oregon is far better running that defense. Both Helfrich and Hoak need to go....quickly.