Thank You !!! I have worked as a Tech Recruiter for all my life and have always seen the SW Industry prone to the Grifter mentality. U of O does not have an Engineering program, and the "product design" is so nebulous and generic these people will probably not be able to find work - it sounds like they are offering a 4 year CAD design degree. These kids need to stop listening to the salesmen at the U of O and start doing some real research into what they can invest the 75k in that will give them an ability to earn a living.