Motley:  Now you've done it.  You've really hurt my feelings....I lost a bet to GBA and he wouldn't even take my money.....but, he, that's GBA.  Would you sit down for a beer or coffee and a civil visit.....no talking religion or politics.   We could just say hello, drink our beer and sit quietly....finish the beers and go home...then tell everyone, "yeah, we had a really nice civil visit."  Let me know.   regards, Gary