If only these armchair environmentalists (of course they now call themselves "conservationists" due to a loss of credibility as "environmentalists") would actually allow those educated in multiple-use sustained yield forest management to apply their skills on projects that not only promote forest health, but actually create opportunities for communities and wildlife to thrive in our currently mismanaged federal forest lands.  However, when those thoughts come to fruition to create well managed, healthy ecosystems through the use of science, there is no longer opportunities for inducing a false sense of fear for collecting "membership and support dollars" from those whose only source of enlightenment are the falsehoods that they read on the web sites of those in the eco-industry that survive and thrive on keeping the conflict going.   Well stated Travis, I just hope that we are still able to see the forests thru the smoke.