Read the post I wrote Gary, it applies directly to people like you, I have given up being overly nice to you dems, you only know hate and fear so maybe if I make it uncivil enough it just might get through to some, you, I'm afraid, are a lost cause, as you were in the JC government meetings, you only know how to bully and talk over people who had a different opinion, yes Gary, I know who you are, and I know how the dems. act, using hate towards everyone who has an open mind and refuses to be on your reservation. I guess being a loyal subject is more important to you then the safety of our nation, me, I want a safer world, I want an end to wars, I want my grandchildren to walk the streets of this nation without fear, but your party? That's right, they give lip service to the right things and you lap it up, your told to ignore actions and failed results and you do. Your told what to focus on and you dance to the puppet strings.