Not one of your better comments motley.  No evidence of the enlightened search for truth or reason that you are capable of displaying.  Answer me this.  Over the five years of the jail levy and the concomitant radical increase in number of available jail cells at the Lane Co. Jail.  How much did crime rates fall.  I don't know the answer, but the value of jail is to be determined through its efficacy in reducing crime.  Did it work?