Like all research experts, there are counter experts.

At the VA Clinic & Tripler Hospital waiting rooms, we discuss Hawaiians and diseases.

That 5% number, from the 1960s, is off point.

We, the living Hawaiian veterans, have watched our ranks thin out.

We had marathon runners, die before the morbid obese recliners.

We had the 6 pack & 8 pack abs athletes, die before the beer keg bellies.

Both sides, had the same diseases.