I find it ironic you would list some players apparently in defense of Helfrich's recruiting yet you are constantly on here complaining and questioning and wondering why (insert names of lots of players named in your posts) why they seemingly have not progressed and improved! Uh....who recruited them and was their head coach over the last four years?! H-e-l-f-r-i-c-h! That is the difference between you and I...your style is to question players while mine is to question coaches. GO DUCKS!