What massive taxpayer subsidies? A ticket tax? If you don't want to pay don't go. The City isn't giving the land to the owners. The City wants the private sector to build a publicly owned arena on public land and then wants to charge them property taxes? It is not crass greediness. It is common sense. Lose the revenues that the Flames bring in think of all those jobs lost from bars, restaurants, etc. The City has not negotiated in good faith and the main reason is Nenshi's arrogance.