This, Outsider, is YOUR comment:  " I personally expect that they gave the young men the shaft for their own personal reasons unconstrained by any due process."  It is you who suggest the University actions were based on "personal reasons" rather than principle.  Don't be upset with G2, he simply pointed out how "personal" your prspective is relating to any issues regarding the University.  IMO, in any circumstance regard the U of O, your anger seems to blind you to the facts and circumstances of the issue as you focus on attacking the University and, especially, the administration.  That's too bad.  Gary Crum