Suzanne Case has not likely visited a Kona reef. She relies on alternative facts from Alton Miyasake, who was or is an aquarium collector, who still sells a book on Amazon on how to make money at aquarium collecting. That flagrant conflict of interest now characterizes the Ige Administration. Under Abercrombie DLNR Director William Aila was or is an aquarium collector, and the Lingle Administration had a Chief Policy Advisor, Linda Smith, who was or is a wholesale dealer for the aquarium trade. Hawaii has been dirty, dirty, dirty in deference to rampant commercial extraction to benefit mainland interests only. Why would Hawaii need an aquarium trade? Why wouldn't Hawaii want to bring its reefs back up to full potential, outlawing this renegade extraction? Also note, Case's remarks are based on monthly catch reports for 40 years--all notoriously underreported by 90%. Suzanne Case has no real data to rely on, nothing but a deep intransigence on the aquarium trade. Hmm. Smells like TNC.