CE:  I'm assuming you recognize the irony of announcing you are through exchanging insults with DG with......an insult.  DG is far from an IDIOT,  she's obviously very bright.  You are far from an IDIOT, you're very bright as well.  From my perspective, I agree and disagree with DG (more agree than disagree) and the same w/you (more disagree than agree)....that's the way life is.  However, if we can pursue civil discussions, we can all benefit from the other's views and opinions.  I know this sounds a bit saccharine, but I really believe it.  Gary Crum