There have been many appeals to avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and there is some merit in taking a sober view on things.

However, if its a case of "meet the new leadership, who are ducking and diving, just like the old leadership", then the whole cancerous body need to be made a very firm, dramatic, and hard example of, otherwise we will continue down the path of allowing ducking and diving to escape consequences, and there will be no deterrent for other companies to just do the same stuff.

On that note, what's happening with SAP and CA?

Things seem to have gone remarkably quiet on those fronts?

It's great we have dealt with Bell Pottythingy, are currently dealing with KPMG, and have started dealing with McKinsey, but lets make sure SAP and CA aren't quietly trying to slip into the shadows.