Skeexix:  I guess we can not expect you and Fish to connect the dots and to realize that mass murder is increasing in the world, not just the US, and that it has nothing to do with the availability or lack there of, of guns.   We have seen mass murder with explosives, knives, trucks and other means.   This has happened at a time of hate being promoted as a good thing.    See the response to Trump being elected.  See Charles responses to numerous posts.  See the responses to KKK and conservative rallies.   See the rise of the Taliban and ISIS.  Hate is being promoted.