Thanks Bronco1st.  Any ideas as to how to make this work?  Just askin'.

Sports is supposed to be relief for the stuff that takes place day to day and for the most part I like the discussions that happen here.

Calling for Vance Josephs ouster, 8 games in, has nothing to do with race, but the visual that he looks to be in over his head, and has assembled a poor coaching staff, and doesn't appear to be making the adjustments and changes to right the ship.

I've seen execs at at companies that I've worked at canned after 2 months on the job because the CEO realized that he made the wrong hiring call.  The next one was well thought out.  It's about competence and performance and I have seen very little of either.