walle: and, of course, it's ncaaf. so, you could be more than correct. however, i've waged this game, and pro's suspect it will take +16 or +17 for oregon to cover. i'm not taking a side in this opin riddled forum, i'll let the fiat currency do the talking this week. and, i'll gladly post monday if i'm eating crow and dawg. so you know, by the fourth qtr there will be some ouchies issued in that game.  7PM sat at huskie stadium with the thousands screaming for measured misery: you're looking at a glass half full and i'm same way 'bout life.