Steve2014 - I get your point - and I don't vote Lib. And agreed, Butts needs to learn from his provincial past. My point is that pickings are slim in Ontario at the moment. None of the three parties offer thoughtful, manageable, effective plans for transformation as we face immediate transformation. Politics has so poisoned itself, we're not attracting the best or brightest to run for office and have landed here - with this weak, ineffective, out-of-touch Cabinet, and both Opposition parties that offer nothing more.