Oh oh, here come the insults, the last refuge of one who's argument isn't cutting it. Is your rice bowl threatened by single-payer? Pretty obviously, yes. Who gives a rip if the health insurance industry has been doing it's thing for 100 year or 200 for that matter. Buggy whip makers provided a nifty, useful product for a lot longer than 100 years, and guess what? They aren't around anymore. The giant that was Ma Bell owned the phone service lock, stock and dial-tone, it's not around anymore. Plenty of other examples on that score. The government wouldn't be "seizing" businesses, just put them OUT of business. There is a distinction there, even if your too blind(just like all those poor CCDs) to see it.  What's working quite well is my bogometer and you've pegged it, my man. Gotta say "bye bye" Lawrence, it's been a real hoot but do feel free to keep spinning all by your lonesome, who knows you might strike oil.