Re: the tumult and electronics at St. Peter's basilica at Papal liturgies. MSW, have you been to the great art museums of Europe? The mass tourism scene is out of control, both in numbers and more importantly attitude and behavior. Why is anyone surprised that liturgy is just another victim of the "me" culture where the great art isn't appreciated for its own sake, but only as a backdrop for our own photographic narcissism? Selfie sticks abounding and manners near death.  One question though. Are the tourists and their flashing electronics out of control when Papa Bergoglio is not the presider?

Maybe it is English restraint, and "good form", but even when the young Royals are in attendance, there isn't this flashing camera frenzy inside Anglican churches or abbey.