"...many extreme leftists are quite vocal about wanting to do just that and gloating about how fast it will happen , including on this very discussion board."

Sure they are.  But that doesn't mean the rest of us have obligation to rise up and denounce them all in the same "quite vocal" fashion. Oh, the DESIRE is there, for sure, just as it is to--as Kingwell's relatives have decided-- "reason with them." Waste of effort.  

In many cases, you don't have to "oppose" or "reason."  The rabid are often shallow thinkers, sometimes easily...outsmarted. Kind of ironic: that's a reality that Trump exploits every week.  "We might hafta pull out of NAFTA..."  And they love it. He plays his followers like a fiddle. The BIGGEST irony of all is that as a very rich businessman, Trump personifies everything many of his "have not" follows vehemently detest. Any effort to try and reason your way around that mind-set is also "doomed to fail."