I'm here Bycatch...i am not denigrating these fine gentlemen. They did what they thought was best for Alaska. Time marches on and now we know they were largely mistaken. They cannot separate the income from oil from all the other income and expenses of the State of Alaska. I did not know any of these people. I did meet Jay Hammond at a fundraiser one time at my parents house and was not impressed. He is just a symbol of a socialist viewpoint. I don't think it will fly in today's reality.