About plants 'not suffering':

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-83446,00.html

And my argument wasn't deflection, it was logic you still seem incapable of grasping.  What I'm saying is that your sentiments don't APPLY to animals--be they obligate carnivores or obligate omnivores--that eat other animals.  The concept of 'bad' doesn't apply to the suffering that the prey endure because neither the predator nor the prey have any CHOICE in the matter.  They have to eat.  The same applies to the vast majority of humanity, and has throughout most of our history.  Only a tiny fraction of our species are comfortable and privileged enough to make the choice to modify their diets according to their own sentiment-driven misunderstandings of biological reality.

As for 'no-kill' animal welfare charlatans, consider the following (for starters):

http://www.adn.com/voices/commentary/2016/05/25/alaska-is-no-place-for-feral-cat-colonies/#

Glad to discuss this further with you.