With all due respect Nathan, you are now deftly attempting to shift your position to a critique of big government liberalism when it had been one of questioning whether Christians should be involved in that which Christ Himself never was.

If we now agree that we, as Christians, are indeed to advocate the cause of the poor and oppressed, then by all means let's do it...and let's not criticize/castigate those who purpose to do so.

The fact that I believe that a certain ideological approach is ineffective or non-participatory in even addressing, much less alleviating, systemic oppression and deprivation--and that you regard another ideological approach in a similar way, should have no bearing as to whether or not we believe that Christians should be involved in seeking justice for the dispossessed, the disadvantaged, the oppressed, and the poor at any and every opportunity; and speaking and writing on their behalf.

 You're not particularly fond of this reality; otherwise you...