I know the trail because I ride it almost every day. They were between the 7 and 7.5 mile posts. The fire department parked at the water treatment plant and drove in on their 4-wheelers. The parking lot is between 4.5 and 5 mile posts. Last week I encountered three bears on the trail. Really unusual. All juveniles. If you're going to call somebody a liar maybe you should post with your real name.