Outsider: I think of myself as one of those "well-reasonedj and constructive liberal mentality fellows".......however, it's always possible that such a self-concept is pat of that "malfunctioning narcissistic psyche"........Is it OK if I keep calling  myself a "liberal" or do you think I should have to self-identify as a "libber"..........(at least you no longer use the term "libtard"....so you've lightened up a little).  Let me know.  thanks, Gary (I think I'm a liberal, not a libber) Crum