Mufi and Waihee were in Asia back when I wore a suit for a living visiting things like rail projects and lobbying Cathay Pacific to do direct flights. I recall consternation when Waihee brought up yick lung crack seed during a large dinner with the Kader industrial people. I don't think Mufi realized what kind of planning it takes to do MTRC project types, just that it's a great working system. Sad.