When does it become a what's the point thing for the players?  The team came out of the bye week and lost to a horrible NY Giants team.  Then they were shutout at home by San Diego.  At that point it was clear that the offence was not going to be able to compete and even if they could sneak into a wild card berth they would get eliminated.  It's been pretty clear to the fans this team is going nowhere.  It doesn't usually come up for our team but what is the player mentality when you are done halfway through the season and you know it?