What do you know about the effects of waterboarding on prisoners wave maker? From what I've heard all torture does is make the victim desperately say anything you want him/her to say, anything to stop the torture. Nothing valuable or usable was gathered from torture from what I've read. Sure did give America a bad name though. All that talk about the Geneva Conventions being "quaint" didn't go over very well with the rest of our allies who take their treaty obligations seriously were quite miffed in fact. Japanese soldiers were hung post WW2 because they waterboarded American/Allied POWs remember?