The fracas begins when people (like you lately) jump to personal attacks and put downs instead of discussing issues, points, and comments.

If you have a shred of honesty - you will look at the remarks I have posted that ask a question or present a different perspective-- and then see the piling on of comments attacking me directly.  I have a right to respond to those.  So the fracas, in your opinion, is begun by posting a different perspective or concept.  How sad is that?

Look at the comments here as an example.  It was YOU who dragged the conversation off point.   Your very first comment to me today concerned how it is my fault another thread was closed...which is both untrue and certainly not on point.  I suspect you may want a mirror, Annie, when discussing who starts "fracases."