I see your cognitive dissonance and understand your confusion.
Think of it this way.
Both democracy and the rule of law are 'good' and 'valuable'.
But if 90% of voters vote to murder the other 10%, it may be democratic, but it's still not legal.
Or the right thing to do.
Discussions with legal experts instead of the torch and pitchfork crowd is the same as your dislike of discussions you're talking about from the legal experts (etc) and the Red Hat crowd.
I hope this helps you sort out your confusion.