I have met with Governor David Ige 3 times on key reef issues and found him unresopnsive, unengaged and sleepy all 3 times. On the first meeting I asked for a contact in the administration to follow up; the gov is so busy. He said, "No. No. I'll be in touch." That didn't ring true, so I asked again and again. "No. No. I'll be in touch." After two more meetings, he's still out of touch, neither tactful nor productive, only predetermined--or maybe resigned to the wills of stronger personalities inside or outside the administration. Disappointing, lacking, non-dynamic. And the Hawaiian cultural practitioners I know are also disappointed on many levels.