Am very curious...why does a California girl have a pro-Tide position on such  a crucial ethical and moral issue? "I ain't nuthin but a winner." St Paul the Great de Tuscaloosa. And here's one from Joab Thomas,  Capstone president in the 1980s (and Harvard-educated, John), perfect for Thanksgiving and for this NCR site: "Lord, make us mindful of the needs of others. Lord, make us needful of the minds of others."