GRHV, excellent post! I've always shied from quoting because of what you so well demonstrated in your comment. You will notice that none of the crazies will reply because they can't unless they look a fool. Jefferson especially is problematic because he was such a radical thinker. Danger Ranger is quite fond of his loose lips that always include denigration. He's a rather sad example of those who think their world view is immutable.