You were there, I take it.

I can only go by what he has said in interviews and what the judge said "And the judge ruled that even though I welcomed them and told them I would sell them any other product, that because I turned down this one..." http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/19/24-questions-for-jack-phillips-the-baker-who-gave-up-wedding-cakes-for-god/