Aintie; I didn't see too much effective defence last night. Although I did see a number of players standing around watching Flyers skate past them.  I also saw a great deal of overpassing and Sundancing along the boards with the occational lazy shot on net, that Elliot saw clearly plus a number of Buds' defenders running  around doing nothing. The problem, in their own  words, some of these guys have played the game "too long" and understand it "too well" to play it properly.