Oh, okay. Your talking about preventing starvation and suffering. I'm not sure what you mean by suffering. But if you're talking about starvation or basic food/shelter needs, you are talking about a tiny fraction of the "poor" in America. 

Please tell me Monte, what conservatives are against a government safety net to help the truly needy? I've never met one. Could you put me in touch with such a person since you seem to know several? I suspect I'd find that they would not concur with your characterization of their views. 

Do you really think it is an open question whether Americans who support illegal immigration also support citizen benefits for them? I do not believe there are many nuanced opinions on this issue. I would wager that at least 80% of HRC voters support Sanctuary cities, porous borders, and government benefits for illegals? DITTO for Trump supporters who oppose those policies. 

Would you agree that both positions are consistent with a commitment to social justice?