I feel that this Batman movie did absolutely no justice to the franchise name. the killer of Mr. & Mrs. Wayne wasn't even jack Napier!!! if this director wanted to display his Independence from the others he did so very well, but to me when there is a franchise to fit into you should at least try to fit into it. The training that Wayne goes thru is one of the saving graces of this film as well as finally an explanation for where he in fact gets those wonderful toys. the new Alfred is OK, but still doesn't hold a candle to the one past. in my opinion not worth the big screen experience, but worth a rent when it hits Blockbuster or Hollywood video.

p.s. the new batmobile sucks!!!