I won't discuss or argue this with any of you, we have different opinions and fighting is pointless. I have 3 cats and 2 dogs and always thought that any of them has higher IQ than Ben Affleck and George Clooney combined but had my doubts. Not anymore. Oscar nominees are getting worse and worse every year. I was hoping that Lincoln would be a great film but come on, even great Day-Lewis could not save it. My daughter is pursuing an acting career and she has been being better than half of freaking Hollywood junk, will probably fail. My only comment is that great Alan Arkin and John Goodman are probably completely starving to stare in this movie. How sad! And yes, Casey.... Did you have to be there?