What was the point of making his daughter a recurring theme? Scenes drag on far too long to belabor a points. The story jumps around time suddenly, often and with little continuity. Al Pacino is the greatest, but, he had no business playing hoffa, pacinos character is too strong. The aging techniques were borderline creepy. An 80 yo deniro made to look like a 50yo deniro trying to act 30 was really really weird!!! The acting was solid. The cast was big but perhaps people relied on that too much? Something was missing. Im still trying to. Figure out. 90 mins could have been cut here easily....