Let's start with the fact that everyone agrees, in this universe at least, you can't have a venom origin story without spidey. The entire movie itself was just awful, from the acting to the plotline. I felt as though it had an identity crisis, it didn't know whether it wanted to be Deadpool with its humor and sometimes grisly scenes (I'm looking at you Justice League) , but stopped short of actual violent gore or if it wanted to be an lackluster spider-man. I'll I'm saying is Sony has tried and failed on numerous occasions with spidey, I mean spidey 2 was great, but that was over 14 years ago and the only taste in my mind is dancing black symbiote Toby and a fat guy in a rhino suit from the AS movies. I just think the head honchos over at Sony should take a page out of the previous people in charge and do what they did with Spidey and give venom and all the other characters to Marvel to work their magic. I mean at the end of the day isn't all about the bottom line for them anyways? At least this way it's a win for Sony and Marvel (Disney if you're so inclined) because for sure it will make boocoo bucks and it's a win for all of us because we know Marvel will do their characters justice.