text: # Prob. 8 (b), Sec. 10, in Munkres' TOPOLOGY, 2nd ed: The union of any collection of disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by some well-ordered set ...
  
  Here is Prob. 8, Sec. 10, in the book Topology by James R. Munkres, 2nd edition:
  
  Problem 8 (a):
  
  Let $A_1$ and $A_2$ be disjoint sets, well-ordered by $<_1$ and $<_2$, respectively. Define an order relation on $A_1 \cup A_2$ by letting $a < b$ either if $a, b \in A_1$ and $a <_1 b$, or if $a, b \in A_2$ and $a <_2 b$, or if $a \in A_1$ and $b \in A_2$. Show that this is a well-ordering.
  
  Problem 8 (b):
  
  Generalize (a) to an arbitrary family of disjoint well-ordered sets, indexed by a well-ordered set.
  
  I think I'm clear as to the proof required in Prob. 8 (a).
  
  My Attempt at Prob. 8 (b):
  
  Let $J$ be a (non-empty) well ordered set; let $$\left\{ \ A_\alpha \ \colon \ \alpha \in J \ \right\}$$ be a collection of non-empty, (pairwise) disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by set $J$; and let $$A \colon= \bigcup_{\alpha \in J} A_\alpha.$$ For each $\alpha \in J$, let $<_\alpha$ denote the well-ordering relation on the set $A_\alpha$.
  
  For any two elements $a, b \in A$, let us define $a < b$ to mean the following:
  
  Either $a, b \in A_\alpha$ for some $\alpha \in J$ and $a <_\alpha b$, or $a \in A_\alpha$, $b \in A_\beta$ for some $\alpha, \beta \in J$ such that $\alpha <_J \beta$.
  
  Then the set $A$ is a well-ordered set.
  
  Is this statement correct?
  
  If so, then here is my proof:
  
  Let $S$ be a non-empty subset of the set $A = \bigcup_{\alpha \in J} A_\alpha$. Let $J_0$ be the following subset of $J$. $$J_0 \colon= \left\{ \ \alpha \in J \ \colon \ S \cap A_\alpha \neq \emptyset \ \right\}.$$ Then the set $J_0$ is non-empty, and as such it has a smallest element, say $\alpha_0$. Then $\alpha_0 \in J$ and $S \cap A_{\alpha_0}$ is a non-empty subset of $A_{\alpha_0}$ and so has a smallest element $a_{\alpha_0}$, which is also the smallest of $S$ with respect to the order relation on $A$.
  
  Is this proof correct? If so, then is my presentation accessible enough? If not, then where have I erred?
  
  • The statement is correct. Further you described correctly how to find the least element of $S$. It should be followed by proving that it really is the least element of $S$: just let $s\in S$ and prove that indeed $a_{\alpha_0}\leq s$. Jan 1 '18 at 11:39
  
  Yes, your statement and proof are correct, although I agree with drhab that you might want to say a few words explaining why $$a_{\alpha_0}$$ actually is the smallest element of $$S$$. For this, I would replace the last sentence with:
  Then $$\alpha_0\in J$$ and $$S\cap A_{\alpha_0}$$ is a non-empty subset of $$A_{\alpha_0}$$, and so has a smallest element $$a_{\alpha_0}$$. This is because, given any other element $$s\in S$$, either $$s\in A_{\alpha_0}$$, $$s\in A_\beta$$ for some other $$\beta$$. In the first case $$a_{\alpha_0} by definition; in the second, $$\alpha_0<_J\beta$$ by definition of $$\alpha_0$$ and so $$\alpha_0.
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  1. **Problem 8 (a)**: A problem statement asking to show that a specific order relation on the union of two disjoint well-ordered sets is a well-ordering.
  2. **Problem 8 (b)**: A generalization of the problem to an arbitrary family of disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by a well-ordered set.
  3. **Solution Attempt for Problem 8 (b)**: A detailed attempt to prove the generalization, including a definition of the order relation and a proof that the union is well-ordered.
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distilabel_metadata.content: # Prob. 8 (b), Sec. 10, in Munkres' TOPOLOGY, 2nd ed: The union of any collection of disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by some well-ordered set ...
  
  Here is Prob. 8, Sec. 10, in the book Topology by James R. Munkres, 2nd edition:
  
  Problem 8 (a):
  
  Let $A_1$ and $A_2$ be disjoint sets, well-ordered by $<_1$ and $<_2$, respectively. Define an order relation on $A_1 \cup A_2$ by letting $a < b$ either if $a, b \in A_1$ and $a <_1 b$, or if $a, b \in A_2$ and $a <_2 b$, or if $a \in A_1$ and $b \in A_2$. Show that this is a well-ordering.
  
  Problem 8 (b):
  
  Generalize (a) to an arbitrary family of disjoint well-ordered sets, indexed by a well-ordered set.
  
  I think I'm clear as to the proof required in Prob. 8 (a).
  
  My Attempt at Prob. 8 (b):
  
  Let $J$ be a (non-empty) well ordered set; let $$\left\{ \ A_\alpha \ \colon \ \alpha \in J \ \right\}$$ be a collection of non-empty, (pairwise) disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by set $J$; and let $$A \colon= \bigcup_{\alpha \in J} A_\alpha.$$ For each $\alpha \in J$, let $<_\alpha$ denote the well-ordering relation on the set $A_\alpha$.
  
  For any two elements $a, b \in A$, let us define $a < b$ to mean the following:
  
  Either $a, b \in A_\alpha$ for some $\alpha \in J$ and $a <_\alpha b$, or $a \in A_\alpha$, $b \in A_\beta$ for some $\alpha, \beta \in J$ such that $\alpha <_J \beta$.
  
  Then the set $A$ is a well-ordered set.
  
  Is this statement correct?
  
  If so, then here is my proof:
  
  Let $S$ be a non-empty subset of the set $A = \bigcup_{\alpha \in J} A_\alpha$. Let $J_0$ be the following subset of $J$. $$J_0 \colon= \left\{ \ \alpha \in J \ \colon \ S \cap A_\alpha \neq \emptyset \ \right\}.$$ Then the set $J_0$ is non-empty, and as such it has a smallest element, say $\alpha_0$. Then $\alpha_0 \in J$ and $S \cap A_{\alpha_0}$ is a non-empty subset of $A_{\alpha_0}$ and so has a smallest element $a_{\alpha_0}$, which is also the smallest of $S$ with respect to the order relation on $A$.
  
  Is this proof correct? If so, then is my presentation accessible enough? If not, then where have I erred?
  
  • The statement is correct. Further you described correctly how to find the least element of $S$. It should be followed by proving that it really is the least element of $S$: just let $s\in S$ and prove that indeed $a_{\alpha_0}\leq s$. Jan 1 '18 at 11:39
  
  Yes, your statement and proof are correct, although I agree with drhab that you might want to say a few words explaining why $$a_{\alpha_0}$$ actually is the smallest element of $$S$$. For this, I would replace the last sentence with:
  Then $$\alpha_0\in J$$ and $$S\cap A_{\alpha_0}$$ is a non-empty subset of $$A_{\alpha_0}$$, and so has a smallest element $$a_{\alpha_0}$$. This is because, given any other element $$s\in S$$, either $$s\in A_{\alpha_0}$$, $$s\in A_\beta$$ for some other $$\beta$$. In the first case $$a_{\alpha_0} by definition; in the second, $$\alpha_0<_J\beta$$ by definition of $$\alpha_0$$ and so $$\alpha_0.
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  1. **Problem 8 (a)**: A problem statement asking to show that a specific order relation on the union of two disjoint well-ordered sets is a well-ordering.
  2. **Problem 8 (b)**: A generalization of the problem to an arbitrary family of disjoint well-ordered sets indexed by a well-ordered set.
  3. **Solution Attempt for Problem 8 (b)**: A detailed attempt to prove the generalization, including a definition of the order relation and a proof that the union is well-ordered.
  4. **Verification Request**: The author asks if the statement and proof are correct and if the presentation is accessible.
  
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