Ops: Maybe it's time I've only managed to join one Ravagers run in a PUG the other day - the leader was a well experienced ops veteran with a group of experienced Ravagers campaigners. He thought it would be both beneficial and amusing to blood two inexperienced tanks - I tank the 55 ops regularly (HM certain times), the other guy pretty fresh to the tanking scene.

We died twice each, me at Master &amp; Blaster and at Cora, took over as MT occassionally to give the healers a chance to revive the MT and things went relatively smooth from end to end, while the other guy was killed at Bulo and Torque.

Nobody grumbled or complained - some of them thought we did pretty good for first timers to the ops. A guildmate thought the requirements to get through Ravagers SM in 186 gear was over-exaggerated by some overzealous ops leaders.

Maybe it's time to give first timers a chance to earn the ability 'link achievement please' for PUG runs eh? We're not all clueless.