I know how to break through [plywood off the ground](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/33561/how-can-i-break-plywood-off-of-the-ground) but how do I get through the structural weakness when it's above my head/on the ceiling? Any attempt to use the Explosive Gel while pointing the camera upwards results in Batman just looking at the gel quizically. I know it's destructible because it has the symbol when I look at it in Detective Mode. 

There are two areas I've found this in, both in Wonder City.

The first is in the first area of the Collapsed Streets, north of the Subway Terminal exit. It's not too far before you get to the Wonder Tower Foundations. It's hard to see in their photo, but there's an orange... something, a hackable panel or somesuch through there.
![detective view first area](https://i.stack.imgur.com/AesAu.jpg "The view of the area in Detective Mode")
![map view first area](https://i.stack.imgur.com/LHGXm.jpg "Map location")

The second is in the western Collapsed Streets section just after you go through the door. There's a structurally weak area above your head, through which you can see a switch for a Riddler trophy.

![detective view second area](https://i.stack.imgur.com/VkI7Z.jpg "Yet another spot")
![map view second area](https://i.stack.imgur.com/sLexd.jpg "This time located here")
Is there some other upgrade I need to use aside from the Explosive Gel?