Project Manager: Hello again .
User Interface: Hello .
Industrial Designer: Hi . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hey , Project Manager .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um , Project Manager , I have something to tell you .
Project Manager: Mm yeah .
User Interface: I have a little problems with my laptop .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: No , a little problem , uh {vocalsound} big problem . I just thought {disfmarker}
Marketing: What was it , problem ?
User Interface: Um , it didn't work anymore . {vocalsound}
Marketing: The laptop ?
User Interface: The entire Windows uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: It hang {disfmarker} hung .
User Interface: It it hung . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ha-ha . Oh . Project Manager .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes . {vocalsound} Yes .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: You're our Project Manager .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Your project manager . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Welcome to the conceptual design meeting
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: for Real Reaction .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh , hello again . Uh it's uh the same as the last time . Uh uh , also this time there will be uh three presentations .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And we um must uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts . Um uh , and at the end , uh I uh , when I finish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh {vocalsound} visited . {vocalsound} {gap} information . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: During lunch , yeah .
Marketing: Master .
User Interface: He's the master , yeah . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The the the the the concepts on uh {disfmarker} we uh {disfmarker} where we uh must reach a decision on . Um uh , our {disfmarker} from uh are of two sorts .
Marketing: Master of {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Components concepts and user interface concepts . Uh , the first one is uh really about the the the the the total package uh with uh {disfmarker} Well , we have decided to do a {disfmarker} do the uh {disfmarker} with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable . Uh how how about the energy ? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you must exchange ? Uh , the user interface concept . Uh , with the type and uh the the supplements . So uh where to put what button . {vocalsound} And uh uh I would say uh {disfmarker} Jans , can you begin ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , sure .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: At the end , uh {disfmarker} I will take notes uh and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the shared folder .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Uh , let me see . I think it's this one . Ha .
User Interface: Wow .
Industrial Designer: Right . Uh , well , I'll be talking about the components .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh , what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two two uh different uh age groups .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Uh below forty five and above . And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh , well , what what d do we want , and {gap} how can we uh d aim a at uh the target group . Well uh what I found was that a senior um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} senior citizens uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I'm sorry . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Ye Ah , it's {vocalsound} it's okay .
Marketing: Okay . Go on . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} They , well , they like more the {disfmarker} they like the traditional materials , like wood and and such more .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Wood and chrome .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes . Um , uh they they they they like luxurious uh styles , where whereas the young and dynamic , they like a more uh soft materials . Think of the Teletubbies , for instance .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh uh , soft and fluffy and colourful and {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well uh , shapes are curved and round .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Y y you get {vocalsound} the picture . And uh they like sports and gaming , and that gives them uh the vitality . Uh , so w well uh , firs
Project Manager: One one little question .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Um about the the material .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Uh a soft material for a remote control ?
Industrial Designer: No , I'll I'll get to that .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You you'll see . Yeah .
Project Manager: Thank you . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh , well f first off , let's start start with the energy . W I uh I had a choice between uh a few different uh sources .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: But uh the two basic sources that I found were the best possible were the battery uh versus kinetic . Uh kinetic , that's when you move something , then uh it gets energy . I figured , well that's ki kinda high-tech , when when you have a remote control that well , when you pick it up , it has power . That would be actually very nice , uh I figured .
Project Manager: Oh .
Industrial Designer: Well , we could also use a battery , that's a bit {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but when the power gets low , you have to shake it or something ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah yeah , you c just you have to shake it around a little bit .
Marketing: Uh , and uh uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And then then it d then it has some more uh energy .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Well , y you could just go for a battery . Or you can go for both ?
User Interface: Oh , have you considered the option of using a solar panel ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I actually did . But uh the thing is about solar panel is you have to have l uh light . Well , sunlight preferably .
User Interface: W {gap} nah .
Industrial Designer: Uh , and you you could you could use normal light , but uh you wouldn't get the same amount of energy that you would from a battery or something .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh for uh ultimate b uh {vocalsound} n uh use of uh solar panels , you could actually use uh {disfmarker} you could use uh solar panels , but uh you ha you'd have to implement them into uh the remote control , leaving you uh a bit less space for the interface .
Marketing: Mm yeah . It's too less space .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So uh {disfmarker} so i i it it wo what's actually {disfmarker} I I c just in f I've figured it out that well , uh seeing that you'll always be uh within the l uh distance of T_V_ , and the {disfmarker} from T_V_ there comes a a a whole bunch of light . So it would actually power itself uh from a T_V_ .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But , well you just take up all the space , and you wouldn't uh have the full amount of power actually used .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: But you prefer kinetic ?
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker} I I prefer kinetic because it's uh {disfmarker} well , the costs aren't that much higher , and um , ju just a bit more high-tech than than a normal battery .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah , but you don't move a a remote control too much .
Industrial Designer: I mean , if {disfmarker} No , but uh d Well , you pick it up and you press buttons and y well , you {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And that's enough to to keep the energy level uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , well uh actually it is .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: And it it {disfmarker} if it isn't , you just shake it a bit and and add add with power up again .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But , what l what Jarek said , you could you could use a battery that you'd just keep it on the recharging whenever it moves . And for rest , you'd just add juice on the battery .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: And when the battery doesn't work , I usually shake it too . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Thank you , Tim . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Exactly . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Like slamming on it . {vocalsound} It's exactly the same . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And so that {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh well ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: f furthermore , you you {disfmarker} we {gap} {disfmarker} uh checked uh the cases .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: We have uh different options uh concerning the cases . You ha I {disfmarker} you sim uh you simply add a basic uh standard uh model uh {disfmarker} it was kind of square and uh I figured that's a bit boring . So you you {disfmarker} we could go for uh the single curved or the double curved . Um , single curve , it's just a {disfmarker} well , uh , you know , it's just uh a nice curve . Or but but you could go in a in an double curves . And that's {gap} like several different dimensions .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That gives you an whole new uh effec
Project Manager: Dynamic dynamic look ?
Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that gives you a younger and uh more high-tech look , I f I figured . But , that uh we'll discuss later .
Marketing: But , are you going to draw it ?
Industrial Designer: What ?
User Interface: Th th yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You want me to draw in three-D_ ?
Marketing: The {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , I c I can't imagine .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh , yeah , I ca I ca I could I could show you . I could show you .
Marketing: I can't imagine how how how it looks like .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well uh let's say y uh you uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Let's say that's your standard uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Design .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That's a bit your d standard design . But you could actually go like uh something like this .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: And then uh in three-D_ effect you could go {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: So y you you just {disfmarker} Yeah , this is a {disfmarker} this {vocalsound} bit uh difficulty in {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I didn't take a major in art . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But but you could have uh uh a whole new uh the back back the the the depth , you could you could uh just play around a bit with .
Marketing: Oh , okay . Okay .
Industrial Designer: You you don't have to use standard uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh , okay .
Project Manager: A little artistic .
Industrial Designer: Yeah you could {disfmarker} y It leaves more space for creativity .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh that might be an idea ,
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: but {vocalsound} just a {disfmarker} Well , furthermore , uh well , uh plastic versus rubber ? You {disfmarker} We could choose uh what uh what's better , plastic um or rubber . I I ch prefer rubber because it feels uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: It's soft .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's soft and it's {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I like soft .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} That's the material the younger people want uh , ain't it ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , yeah I mean uh plastic uh is {disfmarker} Plastic also has that cheap feeling to it , {vocalsound} like plastic uh {disfmarker} Your your {disfmarker} I usually associate plastic with uh something that's cheap . Uh that's maybe just me , but {disfmarker} Uh , we could uh uh , oh , talk about it later . Uh furthermore , buttons . Uh traditional uh or a touch screen . Well , we discussed it in a previous meeting , so I figured I'll just leave it at the L_C_D_ . And uh chip set , well uh if we are going to use traditional buttons , we could go uh with a simple chip set . But uh if we decide to go on a n uh um L_C_D_ screen , we would use an uh {disfmarker} we have to use an a advanced chip set . And that would bring uh the necessary costs with with it . So that's something we th have to keep in mind . If it isn't uh manageable uh budget-wise , we'd have to go over to uh to sim to simple buttons .
Marketing: Well , I think uh we're going to sell tell {disfmarker} ten millions of them . So uh I bet a big company in uh Korea or Taiwan , like uh Samsung , can give us uh a big discount on the chips , so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , probably .
Marketing: U usually , chips are uh aren't more expensive than one dollar .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , probably , but {disfmarker} But uh yeah , that's that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} That that shouldn't be a real issue , I think .
Industrial Designer: That shouldn't shouldn't be uh that big a issue . I'll I'll I'll just add , uh uh I put a big summary here , so we could discuss it a bit . Uh {gap} what i what are your ideas {gap} concerning battery versus kinetic ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um , I think you should use kinetic as a back-up .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you you you should {disfmarker} we should {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , a combination .
User Interface: A combination , yeah .
Industrial Designer: A combination . Uh , {gap} you use the battery and w charge it up with kinetic . When you pick it up , it charges up .
Marketing: Yeah . Like an uh aku uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Acu uh , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , I know .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah .
Project Manager: Just like the watch from Seiko .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well , {gap} . Yeah .
User Interface: Psycho-kinetic . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I con Exactly .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: What uh what do you think ?
Project Manager: I I uh I would prefer uh both uh too .
Industrial Designer: You agree ?
Project Manager: Yeah . Combine them .
Industrial Designer: Yeah ? Both ?
Marketing: Combine them .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Uh , well that would bring the m m some more costs , but I mean the {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Who cares , right .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} That's the Project Manager's problem . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Buy a fifty cents battery and uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Of course . Fifty cent . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , {vocalsound} well {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Fifty cent uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh , why doesn't {disfmarker} And then we have single-curved versus double-curved .
User Interface: Well maybe I have something in my presentation to uh to cope with that .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} That {disfmarker} {gap} Okay . No , we'll we'll just wait and uh {disfmarker} Uh , plastic versus rubber . Any ideas ?
Marketing: Rubber .
Project Manager: Rubber . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh , rubber ?
User Interface: Um , isn't possible to make combination with kind of rubber is {gap} or bendable remotes where you've got a {gap} .
Industrial Designer: You {disfmarker}
User Interface: Or do you think it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh , I figured it will be m rather than hard {disfmarker}
User Interface: Rubber casing , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Nah , rubber c uh this is a casing , yeah . Rubber casing ,
Marketing: Rather hard .
Industrial Designer: because well if you use an uh d a touch-screen , uh it's just a casing uh around it . So um , you could go for plastic , but I figured {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Um , well d Maybe I can ask it right now the question that I have .
Industrial Designer: I I I would choose rubber .
User Interface: Uh , is it possible uh of {disfmarker} is it necessary to make a touch-screen square ? It isn't , I think , yeah ?
Industrial Designer: Well , m I don't know . No .
Marketing: Well , I think that touch-screens are generally square .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: But it's the case you put around it that makes the shape .
User Interface: We're {disfmarker} We put fashion in electronics ,
Industrial Designer: That isn't {disfmarker}
User Interface: so maybe we can uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Hmm ? Yeah okay , but if you have a square uh L_C_D_ screen , and you put a case around it that has uh like bulbs or that that covers part of the L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Mm yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that would cover it .
Marketing: That {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That that would solve the problem .
User Interface: Oh , yeah . Okay , I I get it .
Marketing: That's {disfmarker} it's custom customisable and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm yeah .
Industrial Designer: So mm {disfmarker} Uh uh so uh so what are the opinions ? Uh rubber or plastic ? I I I prefer rubber .
Marketing: Yeah , me too .
Project Manager: Me too .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , you too ?
User Interface: That's good .
Industrial Designer: You sure ? You {gap} you you seemed to hesitate a bit .
User Interface: Well , as long a as long as it's it's uh it's firm , and you don't uh {disfmarker} it's not bendable or something ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm yeah .
User Interface: I th I think that goes too far .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it it shouldn't it shouldn't flop over when you hold it in your hand uh
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Oh . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} No , that that that that's gonna {disfmarker} The the chip set will hold it firm in place ,
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: and uh and and uh and a L_C_D_ screen also {disfmarker}
User Interface: It might even bounce back when you drop it on the floor .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah it {vocalsound} m might it might .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh , tra uh traditional versus L_C_D_ , well I figured we we all set on that .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And uh , then also the simple versus advanced . Well I figure if we go for L_ L_C_D_ , we we should have the advanced .
Project Manager: Mm yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that shouldn't be a problem .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay , well that's my uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Thank you .
Industrial Designer: Uh , you're welcome .
Marketing: Can I uh do my thing ?
Project Manager: Yeah . Do your thing , Tim .
Marketing: It uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Do your thing . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Bring it on . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Expert map .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay uh {disfmarker} Last week
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I went to uh Paris and Milan for some trend-watching .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: For marketing . Our research and development department and I went to Paris and Milan . In Paris and Milan , we uh asked different people , uh differing in age and in income , uh the amount of money to spend , um {vocalsound} what they like in design uh and material nowadays . Findings . Our main audience , uh so that's people below forty , uh prefer the following . At first , the colours of fruit .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Very basic colours , like Janus explained . Um , fresh colours , uh green , red , uh strawberry red , uh yellow , banana yellow .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Um , considering material , um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah . They like spongy material ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Spongeball .
Marketing: like {disfmarker} yeah a sponge-ball .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Like a s soft material .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Janus m uh mentioned it also . I think he did some uh some findings himself .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well , the Teletubbies sh {gap} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} You wer you weren't in Paris ? {vocalsound} Okay . Like this . Like big uh g flashy colours . Fresh .
Project Manager: Flashy . Yeah .
Marketing: It's nice , I think . Okay , our secondary audience , uh people above forty a forty years in age , they like the dark traditional colours . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah , uh materials like wood that {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but wood is not a not a material you {disfmarker} which you build a a remote control of .
Industrial Designer: Well , you could . You you could .
Marketing: No n j just j just a w
Project Manager: Yeah but {vocalsound} never seen one . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} It'll float .
Marketing: No , okay , but just just a wooden uh look .
Project Manager: Case . Oh , a wooden look , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Like uh you have those fake uh fake panels on the floor .
User Interface: Tables . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: The {disfmarker} that isn't wood anyway , but {disfmarker} Okay ? {vocalsound} But , that's our secondary audience .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So , uh we decided to take mm yeah the people below forty .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So , that {disfmarker} this doesn't apply . 'Kay , the third . Uh , there're some overall thoughts about new remote controls . They have to look fancy . Um , they should be technological in innovative . That means uh there have to be fancy things in . Uh , and easy to use . But that's common . My personal preferences . We have to aim at a mu at the {gap} main audience . And uh , therefore use fresh colours .
Project Manager: Would you prefer uh uh {gap} that you can choose the colour of your uh remote control or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh , I'll I'll come to that in a second point .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Here , think about removable covers , as seen in mobile telephon telephone market . To customise your own remote control .
Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Like the Nokia uh the removable covers , uh just put a red on it and go to the shop and buy a green one .
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay .
Marketing: Uh , a third , material being used uh could well be stuff like rubber . Um , two advantages . Uh , it fits within the current market trends . And uh it adds safety to your remote uh when you drop it . So {disfmarker} Uh to come back to your question , I think uh and the people in Milan and Paris also think that uh the rubber should be pretty hard . Like uh seen on regular mobile phones . Actually , they have a lot in common . The phones and the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well , I actually saw a phone that you could use as a remote , so {disfmarker} Yeah .
User Interface: Ah .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Okay .
Project Manager: Maybe you could use your remote as a phone .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Hey . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Hey .
Project Manager: There are numbers on it , so uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That might be a next step . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , exactly .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , in my second sheet of personal preferences , uh we have to reconsider the speech function {vocalsound} uh recognition .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , it's very innovative . Innovative .
Project Manager: So that you say um S_P_S_S_ , and it goes to uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , like something .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: You you can see that the market is just screaming for new technologies , like speak {disfmarker} uh speech recognition and stuff . But , we have to keep the cost in uh in mind , but it {disfmarker}
User Interface: Twelve fifty uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , it it can be uh very expensive .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'Kay , second .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , building games like Snake or Tetris {vocalsound} to amuse the younger users .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , also the link with uh mobile phones . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't use that {disfmarker} {vocalsound} th games when you watching television , I think .
Industrial Designer: Well , yeah .
Marketing: No , but {disfmarker} No , okay . But you don't use games when you're d when you're making a telephone call . It's just the same .
User Interface: When your parents are watching some boring program , you can take the remote and do something else .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
Marketing: When you're at college .
Project Manager: You take your remote control with you . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Take it . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: You take your uh remote with you to school . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} No . You al {vocalsound} you also take {vocalsound} uh t {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
Marketing: you take your IPac and go uh play games . Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} Well , I do that , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay , and um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: And third , I stick with it , {vocalsound} the log-in functionality uh with the slogan , take parental control to a new dimension . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Ooh . S
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Very nice . {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh great {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: In {disfmarker} Okay . Um the interface contents . Well that's a just simple PowerPoint mock-up I want to m make it more as dynamic for you so I'll draw there . But , the main concept is um take one big touch screen . Um , always display the primary buttons clear and visible . Maybe even li like this with uh {vocalsound} u uses of a lot of space . And uh make the menu structure changeable . So if you press um system , that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , well m multiple system options can , maybe five or ten or or one , can fit in . Or maybe even a step further when you want to um t um have some other options that are not programmable with one horizontal button . And um other buttons can may be displayed here if that's necessary . And um well , how do {disfmarker} uh do we want to look at uh uh f um {disfmarker} Yeah {vocalsound} Does a remote look {disfmarker} Well , it's {disfmarker} you've gotta hold it in one hand . So um the middle like all remotes have to be in a little bit small , so you can put it in inside your hands . And some remotes you can use with your thumb . But I think that's too difficult for this one . So you can make it s a little broader . Yeah . And here ? And maybe use your thumb on the on the main buttons . And use your other hands on the menu structure . So here are gonna be the program buttons . One , two {vocalsound} , three , four , et cetera . And the the volume control and program control maybe . And , down here , um , I added , this could be one uh big L_C_D_ . Um , the menu structure . So you can use it in uh in this way . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} One thing you've gotta keep in mind , keep the remote clear of too much functions at the same time .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um , {vocalsound} know that if you are changing the menu structure here , um {disfmarker} And well , I still believe you should keep displaying the buttons . But if you're programming the colour of the T_V_ , do not display twenty other options that are possible . Just keep it as simple as uh as possible . And do not use too many levels . Do not have to select a screen first and then brightness and then colour and un-plus , and um push plus twenty times .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: But just the um uh just in one button if possible . And um , well , you kn you all know the T_V_ levels . Um , channel one , two . And when you get to n to uh to ten , ye and want to go back , uh well you have a problem . Just m most most modern T_V_s , you {gap} {disfmarker} you press one zero , and it goes to ten . And else , to one and through after that . So the s a button less . And um , things like teletext , put them in the menu . Things like um um {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Uh , what do you think about a back-and-forth come-up uh button ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , yeah w Yeah , I I find I must trying to uh tell it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} L like in uh internet explorer . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Is uh volume plus and minus ? And this is program uh plus and minus . Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah okay , but does it {disfmarker} that is for uh going from four to five .
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: But if you go from two to eight , and you want {disfmarker}
User Interface: Or if you're watching Studio Sports on uh on seventeen , and your wife is watching some soap on two {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , and on two . That you can switch switch easy .
User Interface: Well yes , I think that's a good idea . But um , well m my preference would to be put it in the menu structure .
Marketing: Yeah it is . Yeah .
User Interface: And if you're using that button a lot of times , well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen . You just don't have to play games uh in-between . But if you're really switching between two channels , you won't have time uh to d use the other options .
Marketing: Mm no .
User Interface: Um , yeah already already told that .
Marketing: {vocalsound} That's it .
User Interface: Yeah . That's my conclusion .
Project Manager: Oh , okay .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with . The parental control , the games , and the voice recognition .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh {disfmarker} I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote . I don't know how you think about it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Well , I agree , just put it in the menu structure somewhere .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Um , yeah um system properties , um parental control .
Marketing: Yeah but {disfmarker} What I see uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} How I see it is you put it on the the remote and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents , children .
User Interface: Yeah . Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Something like that .
User Interface: Um , w well , yeah .
Marketing: And w when you want to use the parents uh option , you have to {disfmarker}
User Interface: It it has to be fast . You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds of settings .
Marketing: Yeah , ok
Project Manager: No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh on the television , and uh wait uh ten or fifteen seconds longer , so they can uh finally watch it uh because of that .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . Why {disfmarker} Mm-hmm . You c may use {disfmarker} like when there's uh X_P_ , uh a simple log-on , d you just push uh one or two or three .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Pu push parents .
User Interface: And if you push parents , then {disfmarker}
Marketing: That {disfmarker} then then then you have to uh go to three-digit uh log-in .
User Interface: Yeah . To log in . Yeah . And if you puts a ye
Marketing: Like two one three .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Uh-huh .
Marketing: And it's in .
User Interface: And if you w you push p children , uh you don't have to uh log in , but you can only watch uh children's channels or uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: It automatically goes {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Okay . Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it . Because well it's a simple function , but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it . Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such . And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Well I think that's a b there's a big market for it ,
Industrial Designer: I don't know what {disfmarker}
Project Manager: because uh you {disfmarker} Yeah , you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff , and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah , they believe that children uh are influenced by the television ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm yeah . V violent T_V_ .
Project Manager: and uh {disfmarker} Well , we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years . But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . Well , maybe um some idea on that .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Just make through a remote as it is , but make an option to insert profiles ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: 'cause if my grandad would buy this remote , he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the {gap} uh things to do .
Marketing: Yeah , of course .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Just make it an option in menu , ins install powerful profiles or something .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That's a that's a better idea ?
Marketing: Yeah , w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store , it has to be just simple and plain .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , okay .
Marketing: But if you want to install it personally uh {disfmarker} If I got kids , and I could choose between uh two remote controls . One uh w with parent control and one without , and I would would buy the one with .
Project Manager: Yeah , with and one without . Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um , b well , still some question I have about how to incorporate those ones .
Marketing: I th Yeah .
User Interface: You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see , but well , {vocalsound} I I {vocalsound} when I think , oh yeah , for the f for all the standard channels , and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed {vocalsound} instead of uh of channels ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: because if you're watching uh , I don't know , you're in the {disfmarker} at day uh , cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night . {vocalsound} I don't know .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , maybe it can work with show view . Uh , you you can control your video recorder with show view .
User Interface: {gap} {gap}
Project Manager: Uh , when you tick in a number , it will uh start and end uh recording . But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent , and that they are blocked out .
User Interface: Yeah , the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that they {gap} remotes and edit it all ,
Project Manager: Yeah . That's true . Yeah .
User Interface: will have to decide uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but yeah but that isn't possible .
User Interface: That isn't possible .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But , well , if you want to {disfmarker} I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control , uh let's say we do , and and well whatever , cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up {vocalsound} for instance .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well uh , nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel .
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: Well , yeah you could say if parental control is only {disfmarker} it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then , but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But that {disfmarker} Well , I'm not sure because um for that to happen , you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control , so it would , yeah , have to be constant uh constant signalling .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control . And that uh provides parental control , for instance . And that's just an optional uh device . So there's n that's {disfmarker} there's {gap} {disfmarker} uh besides uh the remote control , you'll have a separate uh {disfmarker} {gap}
Project Manager: I wouldn't put it in an optional device . That that then then then it becomes too much , I think .
Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
Project Manager: If we do it , we we must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile , a parent profile , and a family profile , and otherwise .
Marketing: Yeah , and {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , on a separate menu uh option .
Marketing: And and you know w uh when you install another device , uh children can still go up to the T_V_ , p pop open uh the thing and and and g
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's true . That's true ,
Marketing: go to a channel .
Industrial Designer: but uh at same instant , same happens when uh you have remote control . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , yeah of course . But {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But , only difference is uh {vocalsound} the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: and those people wouldn't uh necessary want it .
Marketing: Yeah . Ah it's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So , you {disfmarker} you'd be
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah , okay . But it's just an an added feature feature .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition ? I personally think that that becomes too much .
User Interface: Yeah , well yeah , I {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's more like it gets you to the functionality , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: A mail too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh , hearing loud noises from the T_V_ , someone screaming {vocalsound} one , and you f the channel switches , uh {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Mm yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , like f voice recognition is too much , I think . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And games ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} games . It doesn't {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I can see games happening . Yeah .
User Interface: W you can put it on chip anyway , so uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That would {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} As long as it's {disfmarker} isn't a primary feature of the remote ,
Marketing: That that doesn't c that doesn't co
User Interface: but uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , that that doesn't cost a lot of extra resources , I think .
Project Manager: Okay . So that will uh {disfmarker} that that that must be in it , you think ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that will be nice .
Project Manager: Okay . So the games uh are in it . The voice recognition are not . And the parental control are
User Interface: Optional in
Project Manager: optional ?
Marketing: Yeah , it's it's in it . But too ma I I think so , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: But how we do it ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Well , I think also it's a good idea , buts very difficult to incorporate . So we should make it too complex .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Is t some menu uh function , you choose parental control , and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put it on .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh will f be a problem .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay . Uh , but uh will there uh uh {disfmarker} Like the first idea uh from uh {disfmarker} You can buy it without and uh with parental contr control ? Or are we going to put it in and uh just uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm-hmm . Well {disfmarker} Ye I I think best would be uh to put it in and {vocalsound} make it an menu option .
Marketing: To put {disfmarker}
User Interface: You can put on {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , to put it in always .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
User Interface: Yeah . And you can just uh s when you buy it , you can select um personal preference , parental control on , and the password or something .
Project Manager: Mm yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well , I don't know . I I figure if you had two different remotes , you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it . So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control . But it would would be uh more expensive . So , a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model . Could ma make the uh {gap} simple model and the deluxe model , uh for instance .
User Interface: Oh , it's a p Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , but T_V_s aren't capable of sending .
Industrial Designer: Yes they are . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah ? I thought they were just
Project Manager: Yeah , you yo
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you you have some T_V_s {gap} any {disfmarker}
Marketing: a able to receive . Yeah , some . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but most often not .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . That is true , that is true .
User Interface: Well , maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs , where the parent says , you cannot watch channel seven , nine , and ten , and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: And there's just some little uh clock in the remote .
Industrial Designer: Well yeah , you could you could easily you could easily you could easily {gap} to the mote control .
Marketing: Yeah , j just some rules .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But you still have the problem about uh the television itself .
User Interface: No , no , it's very simple . There uh th I h I've seen some of {gap} remotes who have a clock in it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah yeah .
User Interface: So , the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after twelve clock .
Marketing: Yeah , okay . But , on the T_V_
User Interface: Yeah ?
Marketing: at least my T_V_ , is a is a compartment which you can press .
User Interface: {gap} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: And there are buttons uh behind it which you can use , if you d if you don't if you don't have a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Well , that's {disfmarker} To put it very blunt , that's not our problem . Just have um the parents buy uh some glue and uh {disfmarker} It's not not a part of the remote .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah , of course .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that is true . Yeah , that is true .
User Interface: You have to f Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you could you could you could go like {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh , or make it ourselves very diffic
Industrial Designer: uh that that would actually make uh things a lot more easy .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You could just blame it on television and uh make it their problem .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I figured {disfmarker} I figure we could do that . Yeah , yeah , sure . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh , I'm not sure what marketing thinks about it , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Or j Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ah {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I have to uh {vocalsound} consult my legal advisor about it . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . So uh I think we have decided on the things that {disfmarker} Uh from Janus , the energy , the combination between battery and kinetic .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The case will be double-curved and uh rubber , in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that {disfmarker} with cover is removable .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The buttons will be uh touch-screen . Uh but there may not be too many buttons . And in the the menu structure , uh there must not to be uh {disfmarker} Five minutes to go . Uh , too uh too many levels . And uh it must be easy to use . The parental control will be incorporated , but it must be not too complex . And the games {gap} are in it . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I think we have uh we have decided uh , okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Consensus .
Project Manager: Uh , little more .
Marketing: Oh . Oh . I I have one thing left .
User Interface: Oh .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Maybe for uh Jerome .
User Interface: Yeah ? I'm listening .
Marketing: Um , the views . Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view .
Project Manager: Like a like a moat or s or something . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Um , well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: User profile .
Marketing: Like at {disfmarker} In the experts view , you have a lot of more buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah , but you have that in the {disfmarker}
User Interface: What I was thinking about is just a menu structure , when you don't use it is simple .
Project Manager: Yeah . You use the {disfmarker}
User Interface: And when you push uh system properties , uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . It's already incorporated a little in that concept .
Marketing: Mm yeah , okay . Fairly enough . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well yeah , you you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself , for the more advanced users .
Marketing: Yeah , wh which buttons you like or not .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , which buttons do you want to in it . Because you can you can like build in a back-forward button , and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Just leave the other numbers away .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , you could you could m have people want uh want that .
Project Manager: We take it to the other meeting , okay ? I have a little w uh little chat to do
Marketing: Okay . Go on .
Industrial Designer: Ah , yeah , sure .
Project Manager: and uh then we uh finish .
Marketing: {vocalsound} A little chat . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I went to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh {disfmarker} can come in handy uh for us .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management . Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge , uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is {gap} uh like that .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's it's uh very hot at the moment ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other uh
Marketing: Marketing .
Project Manager: marketing {disfmarker} or did I said management ?
Marketing: Management .
Project Manager: Oh . {vocalsound} Just talking about myself .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , that's my function , to {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} W {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay . Go on . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote , just some uh {disfmarker} Yeah . {vocalsound} Import export .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And uh another one .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Som some bench-marker .
Project Manager: Uh , they're a ha they're at {disfmarker} Yeah , benchmarking , that's the word I saw .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I uh couldn't uh {disfmarker} Okay , uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey , and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider , instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us . So , we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company , uh a trustful company , and uh it has m
Marketing: How {disfmarker} I know a marketing name for our product .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: R_ th R_ to the third power .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: R_ three . Real Reaction remote . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I had a I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing .
User Interface: Oh .
Marketing: Mm-hmm ?
Project Manager: When you uh put on remote , you see a kind of a {disfmarker} just like when you telephone , you see a little uh animation .
User Interface: Uh , logo . Yeah ?
Marketing: Bling .
Project Manager: Real Reaction remote . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And uh with the with the with the motto , we put fashion in electronics . And then you go uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , okay , but it has to be like a split second , because {vocalsound} you have to put in a code also and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: The {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . Well , you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds , they'll still remember it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah . But w th the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a {disfmarker} as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: And it it l linger on every time you see it .
Industrial Designer: Well , if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen , you can {gap} you can uh have a small logo i uh at the bottom .
Marketing: {gap} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And it could just stay there .
Marketing: That spins around like all the time .
Project Manager: Mm yep , yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Very annoying . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that spins around or something .
Project Manager: Also also . But we we are uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Explorer .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah y yeah yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , something like that . A small icon .
Project Manager: Okay , but uh think about that kind of things .
User Interface: Yeah , I {disfmarker} It's ok For f
Project Manager: That's what they said in the master class . {vocalsound} {gap} .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Oh , for the next meeting , right ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: N {vocalsound} Uh , next meeting starts in thirty minutes .
Marketing: Who uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh {vocalsound} once again .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Who who gave you the master class ?
Project Manager: The master class ?
Marketing: Ronald Betenberg ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Franz Mehler's . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay , thanks . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh , very special , uh next uh session .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh idea that you uh {disfmarker} the the industrial uh development uh centre {vocalsound} and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard . So that's a kinda new uh thing . And um , the marketing expert will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation .
Marketing: Ah .
Project Manager: But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So we're going to work together right now ?
User Interface: Stay here and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , the {disfmarker} well , uh dids this what I uh what I heard . I {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: In the master class . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Not in the master class .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} P_ .
Project Manager: But I think it was a very uh very good uh session , uh gentlemen .
User Interface: Ah , no new email .
Industrial Designer: Definitely .
Marketing: Me too .
Project Manager: I will thank you all .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Well thank you too . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Thank you . Thank you very much .
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Thank you too , lord .
Project Manager: Give me a good evaluation . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh-huh .
Marketing: {vocalsound} 'Kay guys , lot of success .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You wish .
User Interface: {vocalsound} See you .
Industrial Designer: M Aye ? Cheers .
Project Manager: Cheers . See you in a half hour .
Industrial Designer: Hey .
Project Manager: But keep an eye on your uh laptops for a real uh
Industrial Designer: Yeah , uh I'm not sure if we uh we {disfmarker} Because I saw something about individual actions .
Project Manager: Yeah , but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together .
User Interface: Yeah . Here ? Or uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: That's not my problem .
User Interface: Yeah . If you got a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Bye-bye . {vocalsound}
User Interface: No . {vocalsound} So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well , yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Stupid manager .
Project Manager: The project manager always works alone . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Right . Uh {disfmarker} {gap} Do you have new email ?
User Interface: No . Don't get what's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .