Marketing: Hello .
Project Manager: {gap} . {gap} .
Marketing: Yes , I made it . English from now on {vocalsound} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Drawing or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah just testing .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm ? English .
Industrial Designer: Just kidding .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: So annoying .
Project Manager: Break is over .
Marketing: Ooh it works .
Project Manager: Whoo .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Spicy .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Spicy .
Marketing: Where are are all the other presentations ?
Industrial Designer: I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be {disfmarker}
Marketing: The conceptual or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: yeah I think so . Yeah , conceptual design . What or whatever does it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Ah . Because I see only my own presentation {vocalsound} {gap}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No no no , can you go back one ?
Marketing: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it .
Marketing: This ? {gap} I'll just put it in there .
Project Manager: So , he's coming .
Industrial Designer: {gap} . {vocalsound} I did get a bit more done than the last time ,
Marketing: Or not .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Oh okay .
Industrial Designer: 'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into the {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ah ,
Project Manager: Ah . She {gap} .
Marketing: I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You can look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm trying to write it down between everything else .
Marketing: Move to meeting room .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Oh .
Industrial Designer: and also with {disfmarker} I don't know how to use PowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it .
Marketing: Yeah me too , {gap} .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I I've got the same problem as well . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Here we go again . Welcome . Uh we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to uh {disfmarker} f the remote control has to support .
Industrial Designer: Thi
Project Manager: So who wants go .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Yes ?
Industrial Designer: Who wants to start ?
Marketing: Me first again or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah sure . Doesn't matter .
User Interface: Oh . No . Yeah . No problem
Marketing: yeah . Alright . Did you open it already or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: no . Ah . Ah . Yes . So welcome to the marketing presentation once again . Um this time about trendwatching . {vocalsound} Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market . Uh it shows a number of developments . Uh I will address them uh in a moment . Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public . Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture . And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey . So um the developments I will address them {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours . So to give you an idea . Um well the developments ? Uh development one . {vocalsound} Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel . Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel . Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface . And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative . Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls . I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,
Industrial Designer: Sound . Yeah yeah uh uh .
Marketing: so I don't expect that to be a problem . And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use . Um {disfmarker} Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So um that kind of gets you this ratios . So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material . Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess . Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem . So my point of attention is especially this part .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: That this will be a crux . So that was the marketing uh presentation . I had only one document left .
Industrial Designer: And shall I go first ?
User Interface: Yeah . No . I I don't mi I don't mind .
Industrial Designer: So I {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah yeah sure . No .
Marketing: So kind of this {disfmarker}
User Interface: Do you want to go first ? Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} So a k a small example .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Kind of this this look .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing , and and some fruit and colours
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I dunno . {vocalsound} Just made a quick design .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Cool . {vocalsound} Yeah you're just the user interface hmm ?
User Interface: It's better than than my uh drawing . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Alright . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah okay but I have to design the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh components .
Project Manager: Yeah layout .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah okay .
Industrial Designer: Oh no .
Marketing: Yeah . It's okay .
Project Manager: You probably opened it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah true . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: F_ five .
Marketing: F_ five .
Industrial Designer: Alright . So {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I'm dealing with the components design . Um let's see . I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products . And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design . That's why I had to , wanted to go first . Well they gave me um an idea about what people want . We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear . Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like . But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type . If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can {disfmarker} and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore . So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier . There is a lot of um {vocalsound} factors involved in choosing the components .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: There's a lot of options that we have to discuss . Uh for example the energy source . we have four types . The basic battery . Uh we have a hand dynamo , which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And uh of course solar cells . But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product .
Marketing: Wi an indoors .
Industrial Designer: So uh my {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah okay .
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: Calculator's can do it .
Industrial Designer: yeah also also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia , they wouldn't be y able to use it half of the year you know .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So that's not cool either . So um {vocalsound} for the uh a case , there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case . Single curved , which means that it has uh curves in one dimension . Or the double curved . Um {vocalsound} I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet , but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now . Uh the case materials .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic , the wood and the titanium . I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Um poo , this is a lot of text . I wasn't able to organise this yet . We have yeah several uh interface designs . Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus , but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons , for the the arrow buttons .
User Interface: Yeah . Pushbuttons . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that's not really interesting .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Electronics ? Yeah , {vocalsound} maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use {gap} the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production , 'cause they they can print it better . Um {disfmarker} Yeah . I think this is about it . Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences . I first uh chose for the battery , 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious , easiest choice to go to . But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: where you have to move the thing to be able to use it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: As an optional uh feature .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Or combine uh both with a with one uh
Project Manager: Uh I think you can only fit one uh source of energy on the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah maybe we {disfmarker}
Marketing: I guess we can only choose one .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make . But it is more longlasting , that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again .
Project Manager: Yeah
Marketing: Yeah . And it's more fun .
Project Manager: I didn't receive any info uh .
Industrial Designer: And it's also more fun yeah . I always chuck my uh remote control around , so {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , just playing with it
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: and {disfmarker} especially when the material's rubber . It can be done , I mean , you can't harm it ,
Project Manager: S yeah it's safe .
User Interface: {vocalsound} And throw it {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Yeah y exactly .
Marketing: so it's a perfect combination I guess .
Industrial Designer: You don't have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So that's the end of it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: 'Kay next .
Industrial Designer: Uh go ahead .
Marketing: So double curved is like this , this , this , or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No it means curved in two dimensions . So uh w single curved ? Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction . Like three D_ . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Also in in height ?
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah okay .
Project Manager: Okay . Can we uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option . We were going to use that .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control .
Project Manager: Well the visual representation is not there with speech
Industrial Designer: Design ?
User Interface: No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: but you can {disfmarker} Yeah . Just {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: So okay .
Project Manager: I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So I don't think you have to design anything else for that .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah with the programme .
User Interface: But do uh j do we uh do the speech just for the basic options , for the simple buttons ?
Project Manager: Both .
User Interface: For for everything ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: also for the advanced options ? Okay . Uh we have this {gap} very uh basic uh trendy design . Everybody says it so that's what's uh {disfmarker} yeah um {disfmarker} Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated . That's yeah obvious . Um yeah . Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control . And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options .
Marketing: And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {gap} {vocalsound} you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button .
Project Manager: That would be the back .
User Interface: I'm {disfmarker} The back .
Project Manager: Back and okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Back and okay yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Back and okay .
Project Manager: You did read the minutes I wrote ?
User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You did read the minutes I wrote ?
User Interface: What ? A little bit I think but not not everything w
Industrial Designer: I {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh okay 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there were . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay . Oh {vocalsound} I uh didn't read that .
Project Manager: I hate doing work for nothing . {vocalsound}
User Interface: But {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} I wanted to to categorise everything . Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes . Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people . And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous {disfmarker} so that's an a also an option . Um that was it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} That was it ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Uh {disfmarker} {gap} again . Ugh . {vocalsound} Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use ? Uh energy source , chip type , case type . And user interface . But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay . So we only , we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: Uh the case would be doubly curved . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And rubber . Rubber material .
Marketing: Rubber material .
Project Manager: Rubber material . And that's the only thing we have left .
Industrial Designer: Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function .
Project Manager: Oh okay . No it's easy . {vocalsound}
Marketing: So that's uh {disfmarker} is that is that the advanced chip ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: Advanced chip . Okay .
Industrial Designer: Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons . But we need more .
Marketing: Wow . Yeah . Alright .
Industrial Designer: I'm just thinking , this is not my department , but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost ,
Marketing: Kinetic . Double curved .
Project Manager: Too {gap} .
Industrial Designer: to be able to m
Project Manager: Uh I didn't get any info on this . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That's gonna be difficult huh ?
Marketing: The cost of making it should be twelve and a half ?
Project Manager: I have total here .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah I don't know .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: I didn't get any information about that so {disfmarker}
User Interface: {gap} . We're going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Child labour man , we love it .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , so it's cheap .
Project Manager: Who doesn't . Uh let's see . Is there a new thing ?
Marketing: Um well the interface type supplements .
Project Manager: Yeah the interface , maybe can {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Ooh . No . Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ? And could you put that in the group folder ? Of the project folder .
Industrial Designer: Um let me see . Wait a sec .
Marketing: If you go to your homepage or something , you should
Industrial Designer: Yeah I'm going there now .
Marketing: get your own information .
Industrial Designer: Inspiration .
Marketing: I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh over there , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ah you didn't draw it yourself .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well {disfmarker}
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Too less time .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker} yeah maybe it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , also the menu .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah that that w
User Interface: This is the the menu I was uh looking uh at .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah I was thinking of that also , with with a with a uh arrow .
Industrial Designer: Maybe it's easier {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Arrow .
User Interface: Arrow yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So that indicates that there's an menu under that menu .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah perfect .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} . 'S the target group .
Industrial Designer: Maybe it's easier if you guys come over here .
User Interface: S yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah sure . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know .
Marketing: Oh yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's like really basic . But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: This is what we're looking for . And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions .
Project Manager: Oh okay . I see .
Industrial Designer: Not only like this but it has to be {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah also like this . So you can hold it .
Industrial Designer: exactly . It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module . It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold . And {disfmarker}
User Interface: But it has also to {disfmarker} it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people .
Project Manager: {gap} .
User Interface: Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It ha
Project Manager: The children's story . Yeah I've got it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually ,
Project Manager: Distinction . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape . And {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always ,
User Interface: The colour {disfmarker} Yeah . Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with {gap} LEDs uh beneath the the buttons .
Industrial Designer: you know , with the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: There is mobile phones , in which you can change the colour also of the lights .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Maybe we should consider this function .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: To customise it and so {disfmarker} I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and people who want something , you know , different , or more uh design , they can go for one colour
Project Manager: Different . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: like uh for example this uh photo th camera .
Project Manager: Camera .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Cool . S underwater uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah submarine . {vocalsound}
Marketing: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Personally I think it's really ugly .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Just give me the thing that it's inside there {gap}
Project Manager: Yeah but this this the {gap} is for the {gap} .
User Interface: Very cheap uh cheap look .
Industrial Designer: maybe I'm too old for this stuff .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So those I think are all my {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: oh .
Project Manager: Ah yeah bright colours .
Marketing: Yeah . Also a kind of rubber uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And this is , this is with the curved that I mean .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That's singly curved .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah ?
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: That should be nice .
Project Manager: Well we could make a compromise between that . But I don't know if it's worth the effort .
Industrial Designer: A compromise between what ?
Project Manager: Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved . So to appeal a little more to the all the public .
Marketing: So s
Industrial Designer: This , this would be uh single curved uh ?
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah there's only in in this dimension .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Like this . So curvy or not {gap} .
Project Manager: Also .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} Exactly . Exactly .
Marketing: Yeah so we keep it singly c single curved then ?
Project Manager: Yeah that would be an option . I don't know what you think .
Industrial Designer: I think the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I mean our aim is to make something different right ? To make something new .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: I would go for the double curved .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah I'd agree .
Industrial Designer: And I I'm I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette , where you have the shape for your thumb .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So it kind of holds nicely , something like that .
User Interface: Yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons .
Industrial Designer: Well this is really your decision but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . As well . You can make a trigger button or something like that .
User Interface: Yeah . Something to shoot at your television {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: that you scroll with your thumb , with the arrows , and then confirm .
User Interface: That's {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: That would be a nice way to use it but {disfmarker} I mean , yeah , I'm thinking big already , and we need something that well that {gap} that you can able to use in one hand I think .
Project Manager: Different . Stands out . Or {disfmarker} Oh yeah a one hand uh solution .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So from top view it looks kinda like this . But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape .
Project Manager: {gap} can turn it maybe .
Marketing: Maybe because the the screen is on top you can have {disfmarker}
Project Manager: To switch from buttons to interface hmm . If you turn it a little . {gap} .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: Maybe you can c have this kind of shape . A little upwards . So that the screen is more
Project Manager: Oh yeah . Least you can easily see it .
Marketing: towards yourself , so you can easily see your screen .
Industrial Designer: How about {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well well you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen . So then you have double double curved in some way . So this this is so the screen is positioned over here .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Oh . Something like that . And the buttons are more , well it's very thick now but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah I understand what you mean .
Marketing: That's uh that's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop .
Project Manager: If you can uh flip .
Industrial Designer: So that the only the simple functions will be visible at first .
Marketing: Yeah ? That that you can press it and then it comes up ? Or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And then if you want {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh so you have a the the side view .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Something like that .
Marketing: But then the side view can be straight . If you have a pop-up screen . But I dunno if that's too expensive .
Project Manager: So and you want to be able to
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean maybe it's too much {disfmarker}
Project Manager: make this
Industrial Designer: No uh like {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: I would draw it like this . Let's say this is the side view . That you have a a screen that will come up here , and can go down that way . If you know what I mean .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that it would come up like that .
Project Manager: Okay so the buttons are on top here , and you flip it over that way .
Industrial Designer: Yeah or {vocalsound} preferably even keep the simple buttons here , and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah . Oh yeah . Yeah yeah yeah yeah . Right . Yeah that's good idea .
Marketing: Oh the advanced buttons . Right .
User Interface: That's {disfmarker} the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But you you want {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: F for the L_C_D_ menu right ?
User Interface: okay . You just want to hide them all ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So w w
Project Manager: No not all because you need most of them , the arrow buttons .
User Interface: The {disfmarker} oh .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: But you can hide the okay and the back uh button .
User Interface: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: And the menu button also because when you flip it open {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto uh uh automatically .
Industrial Designer: Oh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Activate and th the {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: So {disfmarker} okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open .
Project Manager: Why ? You could just make it mechanical .
Industrial Designer: True . True . But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here . You know a simple uh {disfmarker} with a {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's {disfmarker} but it's it's not
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Exactly .
User Interface: it's not very uh very strong uh {disfmarker} yeah if you drop it one time {gap} .
Marketing: True . It uh c it can go open .
Industrial Designer: Well yeah the the idea of it was , is that because you close it , you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever .
Project Manager: If you cover it with rubber . Mm .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: An adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something like that .
Industrial Designer: And {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . So it can bounce .
Industrial Designer: Exactly . Exactly . We just have to make sure that the closing mechanism won't break .
Marketing: Yeah , uh {disfmarker} It's very no it's very strong .
Industrial Designer: Th it's very solid yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah okay so that that may work .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That actually will offer some extra protection for the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay but then we still have the the the thing of the the the shape . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: What kind of {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th
Project Manager: Harder .
Marketing: Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Okay . If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that . With your uh wrist .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know . So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f
User Interface: But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh yeah . Yeah of course .
Project Manager: Maybe can design two versions .
Industrial Designer: Yeah then w then you would have to to make it like this .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But that's that's very expensive uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Like like you drew here .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Give it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And ergonomical shape . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I would give it a female shape
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but uh yeah . Anyway .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The female shape yeah . With two uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Obviously . {vocalsound} Make it more appealing to guys .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: We we could make some some rubber uh some rubber uh yeah mouse , with which you can change uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I mean {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh yeah . Some uh k esk uh {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: and so if you {disfmarker} Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: I mean , we have to make {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah but we have hardware inside , which is {disfmarker} so it has to have some sort of basic shape .
User Interface: Some {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
Marketing: Yeah we we better so choose one {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And also the screen , you cannot mould it .
User Interface: No no no no . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: You know kind of thing .
Marketing: Yeah so okay we should better choose one sh one shape .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: But that's the kind of the idea ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And then you can {disfmarker}
Marketing: so it lays good in the hand , and then on on the side with with your thumb ,
Industrial Designer: You can place the screen here , which can come {gap} .
Marketing: you you can you can use ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: yeah , you can use the button option {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So the keywords are primary co colours , spongey ?
Industrial Designer: And {disfmarker} but then I w I would {disfmarker}
Marketing: Spongey .
Industrial Designer: I would do the arrows here , kind of thing .
Marketing: Spongey can be reached by means of {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Those buttons ? And the simple buttons here ,
User Interface: {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so that {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . And and the and the control thngs in the middle ? The the the arrows ?
Industrial Designer: I Uh y eah that's what I mean .
User Interface: No the arrow's over here .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The arrows over here ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and here the s simple uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah and then numbers .
Project Manager: Buttons . Okay .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
Project Manager: I think that uh it's a nice design .
Marketing: Uh pretty nice design . Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's cool . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah it looks uh pretty fancy .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {gap} or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I dunno .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah that's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh bananas {gap} wierd shape and other fruits also ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: so it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours .
Industrial Designer: Yeah we could make {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know what what colours should the basic print be like ? Like some soft {vocalsound} green or something ?
Project Manager: Orange or something .
Marketing: Or {disfmarker} and then {disfmarker}
User Interface: Or blue ? Dark blue or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh yeah yeah , dark blue
Industrial Designer: We should use {disfmarker}
Marketing: and then and then very bright , uh a yellow banana , {vocalsound} an orange , uh a green apple , stuff like that ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: with very uh bright tones I guess .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah w we need very primary colours , like bright red , bright yellow .
Marketing: So you have something like {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote control .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah okay yeah .
User Interface: If you we uh {disfmarker} yeah . If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: also for the for the more uh yeah for the {gap} people .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Huh cool .
Marketing: Mm . {vocalsound} That doesn't really work . To draw , I guess .
Project Manager: No it's {disfmarker} {gap} .
Marketing: Oh . What's this ?
Project Manager: Yeah it's text .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: N no you have to exit . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You could also make line with uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: So that's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . Two hours further .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} thickness . Oh .
User Interface: So that's blue .
Marketing: Oh . Wh why not go for the twenty ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . That's what I call painting .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Y {vocalsound}
Marketing: So that's that's a dark blue basic colour I guess .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah and then on top of that .
Marketing: It's pretty nice . And then uh {disfmarker} Oh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Some yellow .
Marketing: Yeah with some some yellow banana {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Banana colour .
Industrial Designer: And how about some uh some flashing standby lights ?
Marketing: Like {disfmarker} {vocalsound} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} the you know that {disfmarker} {vocalsound} 'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: So it {disfmarker} not not only in in the colours {vocalsound} of the LEDs , that we want something to keep it visible at all times , or {disfmarker}
Marketing: How do you mean ?
Project Manager: Yeah if you if flashing colour so you can't lose it , basically .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Some some {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Exactly .
Project Manager: Well I think it's a bit too much but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Maybe a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah an orange . Well alright well this is more like purple I guess ,
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: but {disfmarker} it's should be more real dark blue , so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty high .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So uh yeah . That would be a nice uh nice device I guess .
User Interface: And which which colour should uh should I give the the display ? Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Who ?
User Interface: Or {disfmarker}
Marketing: I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six {vocalsound} five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive .
Project Manager: And then you can use yellow or semething . Why not ? {vocalsound} Aye .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So just just a {vocalsound} a blue blue backlight or something like that .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah .
Marketing: Green is too old-fashioned . But blue , blue's okay . J
Industrial Designer: As long as you loo {vocalsound} use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour .
User Interface: Yeah
Project Manager: Like this .
User Interface: maybe a maybe a white a white backlight ?
Industrial Designer: So that people with uh with
Marketing: White backlight , and dark .
User Interface: Dark uh letters , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Whatever which is visible .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions . I mean it's hard to tell uh I dunno .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And also for people who are a bit colourblind .
Project Manager: Colourblind yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . True .
Project Manager: No so that's mostly red and green I believe .
Marketing: Which which uh colour should the buttons be ?
User Interface: That's adjustable .
Project Manager: Woah . All all buttons ?
Marketing: Why adjustable ?
User Interface: Yeah ? Or not .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: No uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy . Or is it uh too expensive ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: But {vocalsound} maybe I mean they have to they have to have some colour right ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's difficult .
Marketing: And if the background is very dark blue {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Blue . Maybe green .
Industrial Designer: But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours ? So th the total of the thing is very bright ?
Project Manager: Yeah you can {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Like the pictures I showed you guys . Those things were all like like bright red , bright red , flashy .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Project Manager: Mm-hmm flashy .
Marketing: So more like {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm bzz .
Marketing: Doesn't work very well . Uh . More like this colour .
Industrial Designer: Yeah something like that , something that stands out more .
Marketing: And then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: But then then again , which colour should the buttons be ? The the press buttons . Should they be white or black or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Red maybe .
User Interface: And it it looks quite cheap , that colour I think .
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Black .
User Interface: It's it's not {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The green ?
Project Manager: Why ?
User Interface: Yeah . I dunno .
Marketing: Yeah but it's pretty fresh , on the other side .
Project Manager: Yeah . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment .
User Interface: It's it's trendy okay . But {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: My couch is in that colour .
Project Manager: Ooh . {gap} . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Well it works pretty well .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: And then time was up .
Project Manager: Uh not yet .
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Do you get a pop-up if we {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah within five minutes yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} That you have five minutes left or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Y left yeah left and then uh I have to kick you out .
Marketing: So something like this .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: That should be pretty nice colour . But maybe the buttons , all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
Industrial Designer: No that's actu
Marketing: Because the {gap} of the green .
User Interface: But the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not ?
Project Manager: They have LEDs but they have a colour .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate . Even for colourblind .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: They will see one of each as grey . But if you use uh green on blue , those kind of colours will look the same .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I think .
Marketing: So red buttons are okay ?
Industrial Designer: I think so .
Project Manager: You can make them red .
User Interface: Okay . That that's a default uh setting . The the red buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah . But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light . {vocalsound}
Marketing: How do you mean ?
Project Manager: Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: 'Cause you have to print on them {disfmarker} you have a background
Marketing: No that's that's too busy I guess .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Each number is transparent .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Uh partly but you have to print on the number . Or the the sign .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So you can't {gap} change the colour so {disfmarker}
Marketing: You better bet better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour I guess .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: So just an extra
Project Manager: Bit of light .
Industrial Designer: You can {disfmarker}
Marketing: bit of light and attention .
Project Manager: Bit of feedback .
Industrial Designer: what we should do I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button , with uh one coloured LED behind it .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that the whole button will shine
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: as the colour the {vocalsound} {disfmarker} {vocalsound} And if you think about easy to use buttons , we have to , well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb , if you hold the machine .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay with {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} Don't mean to discourage you but {disfmarker} uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard . Next thirty minutes to design something so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Ah , right .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: And the {disfmarker} You will do the evaluation .
Marketing: Of the product ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Which we don't have yet .
Project Manager: Yeah uh about {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} So wh how should I do that ?
Project Manager: Yeah I don't know . {vocalsound} You probably get a mail .
Marketing: Oh okay . Or you you or you send it to me . Or just {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . Once they are finished . Yeah .
Marketing: because you are going to design it on this board right ?
Project Manager: Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation {disfmarker} you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow . I don't know .
Marketing: Yeah . I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: so I make another presentation I guess .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: I kn I know what's gonna happen in in yeah so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: About . Yeah . You have the basic idea .
Marketing: I've a basic idea .
Project Manager: And you two uh are going to do this . Look-and-feel and {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So we're gonna work here ? On this sketchboard ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Good luck .
Industrial Designer: Alright . Thanks .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright so that's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So I {gap} uh make new page and uh be creative .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But we have to do it at this moment , after th this meeting ?
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Yeah you have uh
Industrial Designer: Thirty minutes .
Project Manager: thirty minutes .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Then we have to uh see something which we can uh
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: show to the management .
User Interface: Ah so this is basically the what what we are thinking about ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: I would yeah .
Industrial Designer: Shall we uh make a new uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah l let's just uh delete all these uh {disfmarker} or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Next .
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I just {vocalsound} make a new one .
User Interface: Oh , next {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Oh and save this uh board .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Just save it .
Industrial Designer: Huh ? Yeah I'll just I'll just keep it there .
Project Manager: Yeah okay but just press save and uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: It'll be fine .
Marketing: On the left . S so , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh sorry .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You can also include clip-art . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: So if you'll rather draw in paint or something {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Current colour ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay . Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?
User Interface: Yeah . And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface .
Industrial Designer: Because {vocalsound} I I {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} then look .
Industrial Designer: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design .
Marketing: This ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So how it's gonna look . And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things .
Marketing: Uh pretty accurate .
Industrial Designer: So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct .
Marketing: Oh we skip this I guess . Sound {gap} button press .
User Interface: Yep .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches .
Project Manager: You can also include it . It's not much work .
User Interface: Oh no it's it's okay .
Marketing: Light only button user ca user interaction .
Industrial Designer: {gap} so we kind of want the girlish
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's included .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: figure .
Marketing: So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction . So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I'm not so good at drawing . Excuse me ?
Marketing: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on {gap} when when they are usable .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No uh uh .
Marketing: Maybe you should draw it very large {vocalsound} like this .
User Interface: Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly .
Project Manager: Yeah . Sensitive .
Marketing: Oh right .
Industrial Designer: How do we uh uh
Marketing: Erase ?
Industrial Designer: or insert text ?
Project Manager: I dunno . Maybe just start typing .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} It's a bit uh large . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh that's a bit big . Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You also do the other sides . Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view .
User Interface: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Ex exactly .
User Interface: L let's make first the the the all the views . The the front view , side view and the back view .
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Jesus . What do I write down ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Why can't I work here ? This is much easier . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Much easier , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and {disfmarker}
User Interface: The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think .
Project Manager: No so I just work here a few minutes . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah the display ,
Industrial Designer: Uh don't you think ?
User Interface: we yeah we can put a display .
Industrial Designer: So the display we will put in here , the basic uh functions in here , where it's most reachable .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The {disfmarker}
User Interface: The the arrow functions . Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The th Exactly . Oh . This is hard .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: What do {disfmarker} {gap} don't have to draw it exactly do we ?
User Interface: No it's it's uh it's okay .
Industrial Designer: Wait . Let me try it one more time . Maybe I've uh {disfmarker} it's easier if I draw it in once . Okay , of course it will become way more ugly . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} You can make it m larger . Maybe it's easier to to draw uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . This'll take forever . It's fun to work with this pen .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Um so , larger .
Marketing: Oh .
User Interface: Yeah that's that's the basic idea . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Wrong one .
Industrial Designer: yeah . So side .
Project Manager: Five minutes left before the meeting ends .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay . Um other views ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit .
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's the question .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} Let's fill i fill in the buttons later .
Marketing: But we we {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So this is gonna be from the
Marketing: I is it {disfmarker} if if this is from the side {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: uh from {vocalsound}
User Interface: From the {disfmarker}
Marketing: woah . Steady .
Industrial Designer: yeah yeah . Sorry .
Marketing: Because there the screen goes up like that right ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So then it's like this ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
Marketing: or {disfmarker} that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the {disfmarker} it's better to have it somewhat like this . Or does it flip all the way ?
User Interface: Yeah I'm I'm {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The the idea is that it has to flip up to here .
User Interface: May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble . Because it do doesn't have to flip then .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah yeah yeah .
User Interface: Because here {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this .
Industrial Designer: True .
User Interface: But why why do we need uh the flipping uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} you can adjust the angle to which it flips . So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You can flip it up to there if you want .
Marketing: Yeah . So w yeah . But we still keep the flipping mechanism .
Project Manager: Yeah we keep the flip ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Think so .
Project Manager: Keep the flip live .
Industrial Designer: Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I dunno .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh the the shape is okay but {disfmarker} yeah ? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I thought it would be cool . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Because we {disfmarker} Okay yeah . It's it's for for for more trendy uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but maybe {disfmarker} Yeah but maybe we we should then {disfmarker}
User Interface: Because we have enough space . H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button .
Marketing: Yeah there the middle {disfmarker} Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?
User Interface: Yeah and then h we sh mm .
Marketing: And then like i oh th {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: doh . Come on . So this is the shape . Oh . It hasn't {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} . It doesn't aim so well .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen .
User Interface: Yeah , then it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: So there's a layer of rubber on the side .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah . Definitely .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So no flipping but just {disfmarker}
User Interface: No flipping or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No flipping ?
Marketing: no .
User Interface: {gap} you wanted the flipping so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah I guess but uh I mean most votes count right ?
User Interface: But if you if you {disfmarker} If you drop it it it just breaks . And it has to be very strong because of the {gap} . Yeah kind of {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's shaking .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Throwing and the kinetics . Oh . We better make we better make it like this . Eventually .
Industrial Designer: Yeah true true .
Project Manager: Yeah just light on top .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years .
Industrial Designer: Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Safer . Mm . Yeah okay that {gap} the target group .
User Interface: But there are more {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control . Yes .
User Interface: Yeah okay . That's true . Okay . Yeah ?
Project Manager: Well . I just uh ended the meeting .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I'm just thinking totally different designs also .
Project Manager: You two go design .
User Interface: Okay wi
Industrial Designer: Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy .
Project Manager: Oh . By the way . Um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Maybe we should try something like that . But yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I uh thought up a name for our product . Yeah . It's called uh the Real Remote .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh right .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} With a copyright sign after Real . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ooh . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
User Interface: {vocalsound} The Real Remote .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Alright .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I like it .
Project Manager: So maybe you can include that somewhere .
Industrial Designer: Okay . This can go .
Marketing: Good . Yeah . We should work in our own room right ? Or not ?
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well .
Project Manager: I don't see any power cables here so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Let's see .
Marketing: Yeah . Yes .
Industrial Designer: What the hell's that ?
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I think uh it's the sensors .
Marketing: See you two in half an hour uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Good luck . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yep . Okay that's the side . Ah it's it's okay . But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I think we do .
User Interface: Or just leave it ? Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll , volume button .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m yeah .
User Interface: For menu . Or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah ? I dunno . We w kind of wanted to stick with the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . No , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I'm just thinking , {vocalsound} if we i we wanna make something different
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: right ? So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah you are going to design it so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}