Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: So we are here for the concept design meeting . So , we will first start by summarizing the mm {vocalsound} the previous meeting and the decision we've taken . Uh I will take notes during this meeting so uh that you can uh look at my uh folder to see the summary of this meeting afterwards . So each of you will uh show us the various investigation they've done during uh previous uh hours . We'll then t take decision in concert and then uh uh we will uh define the nest {disfmarker} next task , to have {disfmarker} to be done before the next meeting . So , last time we decided to have a simple interface . We also decided to have a wheel to change channel {disfmarker} previous channel button . Channel digit uh buttons should be uh protected by plastic cover or something for the remote control to look very simple . We have also button for volume , and to switch on off the T_V_ . We have also uh the lightening feature for the remote control to be easy to find , and for fast development and low cost we have decided to have no L_C_D_ no voice features . So now uh we will have three presentations . So the conceptual specification by Industrial Designer , the specification of the U_I_ by {disfmarker} or U_I_ {vocalsound}
User Interface: Abdul al-Hasred is my name .
Project Manager: okay . {vocalsound} And uh the last point is uh trend watching by Market Expert . So maybe we can start with uh industrial design . So this is the presentation .
Industrial Designer: Uh , I_D_ you want ?
Project Manager: Maybe I can switch slide uh on your request .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . I only v have three slides , so . I just look at the mm {disfmarker} um just this . On some web pages to find some documentation
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and I think a remote control is , as I s mentioned previously , you just have a a very simple chip and the mm the user interface is just done usually by push button and in our case we are using a um a wheel control . So uh uh I was looking basically for that chip , which is uh very very standard , and uh I just looked for the wheel sensor and the standard push button . And um {vocalsound} yeah we can change directly .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: In fact I have the number of that element which is very standard for remote control . The push button are usually extremely cheap , but I just have one problem and this is related with the wheel sensor , which seems to be quite expensive .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: And I think we if we could just talk about that if we really need a wheel sensor or if we can not {disfmarker} if if we could combine something with the push button .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh a wheel sensor is fifty time the price of a a a push button .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: But is it a significant price on the whole remote control ?
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Because we can afford up to twelve Euros for the price of the remote control .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah
Project Manager: So will will will this with uh including all possible things , so buttons , wheel and the chip , be uh lower than twelve Euros to produce ?
Industrial Designer: I I th {vocalsound} But I don't think that uh we should {disfmarker} We should talk about uh the design of the box also which needs some money .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay
User Interface: Also have to say {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}
User Interface: Did you receive the email about the voice recognition ?
Industrial Designer: Um that's all {vocalsound}
User Interface: No ?
Project Manager: You received something {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: yeah . I haven't chec
User Interface: Yeah . You we uh an email from the manufacturing division that they have basically a voice recognition chip already developed .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: Says {disfmarker} Yeah . It says that ri right now they just use it to uh to record uh answers to particular questions . But I guess it could be {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And could it be adapted ?
User Interface: I guess it's possible . I mean instead of recording the answers you can just uh record uh something simpler like a command .
Project Manager: Okay and there can uh recognize some commands and stuff ?
User Interface: Yeah you reco recognize commands and you can record new commands and stuff , so if they already have it as uh as a chip
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah .
User Interface: then we we could use it .
Project Manager: Okay maybe we can just uh listen to this presentation and then take decision later on {disfmarker} according to those news .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah but I think it's yeah {disfmarker} Sorry , I haven't written my personal references . Um {vocalsound} the I I just want to mention the the problem of the the r wheels sensor which is much more expensive than any push button ,
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: and if we could reduce that . We we have already some good things uh with um um with the backlight of the push button .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . I have a question about that actually {vocalsound} . Um , what is the purpose of the light ?
Industrial Designer: Just to to make something which is uh slightly more design that uh a squarey box with a rubber {disfmarker}
User Interface: Is {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You can easily find the button in the dark or so ?
User Interface: But {disfmarker} But in th in the dark uh {disfmarker} Yeah but is going to be always turned on , the light ?
Project Manager: It will be turned on when the when the user move the remote control I think , no ?
User Interface: But if you move it then you have it , you don't need to find it .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: You can see the buttons better , of course .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . True .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Actually .
User Interface: But if you move it then you have to have some sensor to {disfmarker} when you move it to detect your movement .
Industrial Designer: As soon as you thought to move the the remote control you have the light .
User Interface: Yeah , but you need another sensor for that , right ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Again .
User Interface: Yeah {vocalsound} no it's too expensive . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I don't think that this is really expensive , but at the end this is plenty of unexpen eh very cheap devices but uh the bill starts to be {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay . Mm . Extra . Yeah , okay . Mm . Yeah , but I expected also the wheel would be cheap but you tell me that it is very expensive so ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} First of all I was thinking to have a a continuous light
User Interface: yeah .
Industrial Designer: and you w when t you you you you press the on button you have the light on your remote control , when you want to turn off your device {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm . Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: But it can be uh battery consuming , no ? To have the light always on ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , a little bit . A little bit .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Well we will discuss that after maybe
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay
Project Manager: the other presentations .
User Interface: . So uh my one , it uh should be in the shared folder .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So . It was last time I saw it .
Project Manager: And it is .
User Interface: Okay . So ,
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} just move to the next slide . {vocalsound} So basically {vocalsound} want very simple , right ? That's the major idea , as simple as possible .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: So I just look at some current designs uh on the web , of usually more complicated remote controls . And let's look at two of them because uh th even though they have many buttons they look quite simple . And in our case we just uh reject the buttons what we don't need and it become even simpler .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Um . {vocalsound} So .
Project Manager: And also does it uh fit well in hand ? Because it was uh th your wrist problem with the usage .
User Interface: Yeah . Well this these uh these remotes are quite big , so go to the next page , so . We have all these buttons as you can see , but most of them , we just need the ones in the middle .
Project Manager: Yeah {vocalsound} . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: So , from the bottom or whatever is there , uh the uh the numbers and then the top , uh until the ten also , this middle part ,
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: and on the left one is exactly the same . So it's basically more or less how we would like it , with a big volume control , big channel control , and mute and power , yeah ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: These are the basic thing .
Project Manager: So it's only the central part .
User Interface: So basically , w software we will build will look more or less the same as these two .
Project Manager: Yeah . With a maybe a more ergonomic design on on the bottom part .
User Interface: Yeah , if you have , for example {vocalsound} {disfmarker} I think that the volume and the buttons that are there on the top are not very easy to reach with your thumb .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: It could be on the right side , for example .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . Because we don't have these input buttons and this other stuff that they have . And I think that the plastic cover is not very good uh idea because
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: you open it , it can break , you ca you can do various things .
Project Manager: Okay . S
User Interface: Uh you just need to put the channel numbers somewhere a bit out of the way .
Project Manager: Okay . Will be down or {disfmarker}
User Interface: So that they're separate a bit ,
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: yeah . Uh and it's easy to press the other {disfmarker} the big buttons , but uh , it's not that difficult to press the the channel buttons either . Mm . Yeah , I think that if you put the cover it will be even more difficult for the user .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Alright , you won't {disfmarker} yeah . Usually what {disfmarker} I have noticed that people put the plastic cover on things that you normally don't mess with , like buttons for t uh tuning the channels and stuff like that .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . That you want to protect a bit . And I think it's uh it's reasonable .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: So , I don't think {disfmarker} Yeah , this is just the the wheel .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: We could use the {disfmarker} some wheels can be pushed down , could use the push down of the wheel for the record if we want .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Uh so we could just basically use one just wheel and uh user could use just the wheel to do everything with the channels in that case .
Project Manager: Yeah . Maybe the wheel will be a {vocalsound} good advantage over our competitors .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Because otherwise it's pretty standard apart the fact that it's very simple . So maybe it's worse to uh to have more expense on that's that aspect .
Industrial Designer: To s Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah , I guess the market researcher will tell us all about that .
Project Manager: Okay . So we can move to the {disfmarker} Is there any question ? For designer of user interface ? {vocalsound} or we can move to the next part , maybe , and discuss afterwards ? Okay .
Marketing: Okay , I can go ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Can I ? {vocalsound} So now the recent investigation we we have done fo of the remote control um . So , the most important aspect for remote controls is to be fancy look and feel and not current functional look and feel . And um the second aspect is uh that the remote control should be uh technological innovative .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} And the third most important aspect is to to {disfmarker} is that the co remote control should be easy to use . So , are things we are we have uh speak about before .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . And um {disfmarker} so you you can go {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: after . And there is a fashion watchers in Paris and Milan that have detected the following trends , uh fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes , shoes , and furnitures . {vocalsound} So , maybe if our {vocalsound} remote control have to be a fruit form or vegetable form {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: something like that , or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I support an apple .
Marketing: {vocalsound} And the mm the material is expected to be spongy .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh I don't know which material {vocalsound} can be spongy ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: and if you {disfmarker}
Project Manager: This is good also for {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , wou wou I think we can certainly just put the electronics in a spongy thing ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: it it would work , right ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: I think it is good also f to have a spongy material , yeah .
User Interface: You can throw it to the television .
Project Manager: Yeah , because it's robust .
Marketing: Okay {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Me too .
Marketing: It's robust , yeah .
User Interface: Hey that's a cool one . We could say that if you throw it , you have a sensor , and you throw it and hits the television and turns it off .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: When it d uh takes a shock .
Project Manager: Yeah
Marketing: {vocalsound} Not good .
Project Manager: uh sorry ?
Industrial Designer: Ah it's okay . I know that they do that for alarm clock also .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: An and and uh this uh you can yeah you can say that . You ca uh you can go uh before
Project Manager: No . Yeah . Before ?
Marketing: , before , yes . And you know here the more iz important aspect is the fancy look and feel , after is uh technological innovative , and after the easy to use .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah . I think it's innovative to use the mm the wheel because I think no one else has .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah that's why {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Has it ?
Marketing: Yeah that's why I think we have to keep that if it's possible .
Project Manager: Yeah . I think it's {disfmarker} it makes it both easy and both innos innovative .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Innovative . Mm .
Project Manager: So I think it's a good aspect and it should be kept .
User Interface: How do we make it look cool is the question .
Project Manager: Cool , fancy ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: We have to make it l look like a fruit or vegetable . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Maybe uh um {vocalsound} a colour that remember some fruit uh , things like that .
Industrial Designer: What about um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm . Oh , colour , yeah .
User Interface: Well the obvious thing is a banana , I guess .
Marketing: Oh {disfmarker} i i {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Maybe yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I thought about a a pear , for example . You know the pear , is like that and it's it's easy to to have in in hand
Project Manager: Yeah , and it's ergonomic as well .
Marketing: and uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: A pear .
User Interface: The banana is also ergonomic .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . Maybe pear yeah or something like that .
Marketing: Or a fruit like that . I dunno .
Project Manager: Yeah . We can discuss that uh . D D Is is there anything you want to add ?
User Interface: Is there any fruit that is spongy ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I don't think so . I think we we can have like yeah a pear is good , fit well , or banana as you told .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Something like that .
Industrial Designer: And for maybe look and feel , what about a a piece of ice , with blue L_E_D_ inside ?
Project Manager: But that's not in the trend . {vocalsound} .
User Interface: You can make it um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The trend is spongy , and vegetable fruits .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's not hard , the metal .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think p spongy is good because it it will be robust as well .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Plastic . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Project Manager: So , I think we can keep the wheel because it's uh easy , it's innovative , even if the cost is a bit higher ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: and we also have to find a , so , a fruit like pear or banana wit uh any others idea you have . What kind of fr fruit would you like to to control your T_V_ with ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Odi
Industrial Designer: Banana I think , it's a nice idea .
Project Manager: Banana is also yellow so you you can't lost your remote control then .
Industrial Designer: Because {disfmarker} But {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You y you don't use the banana when the banana is curving like that ,
User Interface: Two of the button , yeah .
Industrial Designer: but when the banana is curving like that , with the wheel on the top and to control ,
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and here you have a a push button to {disfmarker}
Marketing: But you don't have {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I think it's a good idea , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah so you can just have uh just have this curve , yeah , and you move uh your hand here to press the buttons and then you move uh on the other side .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: So you can have it on on two sides and it'll be cool ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: no ?
Project Manager: I think it's a good design and it's innovative as well then . Maybe we can keep the banana . And it will be very easy to find .
Industrial Designer: And everybody knows what is a banana .
User Interface: You can put also vibrator inside .
Industrial Designer: Basically .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: If you if you start with uh fancy fruits and fra s and tha
User Interface: Ah-ha . You can also take into account the fact that the banana fits with the colour scheme of our company .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh , yeah {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah it's really uh really a good point .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} I hope the students of management die ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but anyway . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Now who are recording this meeting ?
Project Manager: I think it {disfmarker} So {disfmarker} One second . So we have to take some decision on this aspect . So , uh so for {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: sorry , for uh component , so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: we have to think about those aspects , sorry .
Industrial Designer: So we will just use a a standard battery ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And uh the chip we {disfmarker} chip imprint we know exactly which one we are going to use . Uh what do you mean by case ?
Project Manager: I think it's the box that should be spongy , banana's shape .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Uh I mean for me if we use a a spongy banana case , doesn't matter .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I just want to have so something to prin to to fix my my components onto that box , and that's it .
User Interface: The only th Yeah . Y Yeah that can be in inside th in the structure .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: But uh the thing is that the buttons and the wheel have to be {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Spongy also .
User Interface: I mean if it's spongy then the buttons and the wheel have to {disfmarker} I mean if it's spongy then it's going to move , right ? So , it's going to be bend a lot .
Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Oh no I think it's possible .
User Interface: So if we try to push the buttons , it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No the button would be {disfmarker}
User Interface: You think it's possible ?
Project Manager: In fact it it should be something odd shaped , with a spongy cover .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: . This is uh like the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay odd shape with spongy {disfmarker} cover . And standard battery okay , a chip imprint , there's no specific problem . So we agree to put the wheel {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} Wheel on the top . Button , where do we want some buttons ?
User Interface: Well , usually hold {disfmarker} {vocalsound} 'Kay , we want it to be good also for the left-hand users , right ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: So it have to {disfmarker} it has to be symmetrical .
User Interface: Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah but okay . Sa let's say that th o {vocalsound} It has to be {disfmarker} basically you can only take two sides , one on ths this side where is the thumb and the other side where there is uh yeah also the thumb .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yep .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Basically . Or you could use use this one , but I don't know if it's very comfortable , to use this one for the wheel .
Project Manager: Yeah maybe the thumb is more comfortable .
User Interface: This for the wheel and then this for the buttons ?
Project Manager: Yeah I think it's okay for both right and left . Mm .
User Interface: Should have the two sides .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So if {gap} the left , we have {disfmarker} the op
Project Manager: I think you can turn it this way also . You can do both with both hands .
User Interface: Wheel {disfmarker} Wheel buttons .
Project Manager: I think it's okay .
User Interface: Yeah , the problem is if you have buttons and wheel then when you turn it around , the buttons are on the other side . So you cannot see them .
Project Manager: Well , you you will get used to it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And moreover , th the button ar are lighted so you you immediately identify the right side , because you have light on buttons .
User Interface: So the buttons have to be here and the wheel has to be {disfmarker} Y Yeah I know , but uh if you hold with your left hand , and the wheel is here , and the buttons are here , then when you turn it around the buttons will be on the other side .
Project Manager: Yeah . No you you {disfmarker} I think you will use it only on the right or left hand , whether you are righty or lefty . I think for lefty it's okay . I can do this movement , and for righty as well . I think this doesn't change that much .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
User Interface: Okay . Maybe . Yeah .
Project Manager: So , for interface we said also that we have uh this banana shape with button on the s on the side . And {disfmarker} and uh a wheel on the top .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So the colour is yellow . I think it's uh {disfmarker} we defined everything according to what we should {disfmarker} what the decision we should take , yeah . So maybe we can um we can uh work on those aspects uh until next meeting . So have the final uh look and feel design according to the decision . And have the the user interface design and uh then evaluate the prodyuc {disfmarker} the product . That is to say , uh check if it fit the the requirement uh given by the users , but according to uh your presentation it seems to be okay . It seems to be fancy , innovative , and easy to use .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: So {disfmarker} so {disfmarker} to prepare the prototype I would suggest that the Industrial Designer and the User Interface Designer uh work together . That would uh
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: be better , I think .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker} And so uh you will receive further instruction by emails , as usual .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: So {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yes master .
Project Manager: do you need to add anything ?
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You feel okay ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: You feel uh free to express what you want to say ? You don't feel too constrained ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You don't feel free to answer this ?
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Maybe you can make {gap} uh {vocalsound} uh mm
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , so {disfmarker}
User Interface: okay .
Industrial Designer: Thank you .
Project Manager: See you .