Marketing: It's Play-Doh .
Project Manager: Play-Doh's edible . Did you know that ? It's definitely {disfmarker}
Marketing: Because kids {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: I used to eat it .
User Interface: I've , I've definitely eaten it before . I didn't know was edible . {vocalsound} {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah . It's it's chew proof . {vocalsound}
Marketing: But um , it's it's made edible 'cause , yeah . It's made edible 'cause kids eat it ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: and if it's wasn't edible then {disfmarker} Well , normal babies . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Actually that makes sense , because I remember like , peopl I dunno if my Mom ever did it but I remember other people's Moms making like home-made Play-Doh where you just like make the {gap} colouring and make some sort of sort of dough .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Oh yeah it is , yeah . Oh yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Right .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Everybody everybody ready ?
Industrial Designer: Yep .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , let's have your um {disfmarker} let's get {gap} have the uh presentation ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: We've got some {gap} .
Industrial Designer: We've got a cool prototype .
User Interface: Yeah , it's pretty exciting . So , everything uh that we wanted we wanted it to be ergonomic and to be made out of rubber , very simple and easy to use ,
Industrial Designer: Double curved .
Project Manager: Nice .
User Interface: yeah , double curved ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: um but also something that was gonna jump out at people , something that would be different uh , separate it from the other remotes out on the market . So uh I think if you put this in the palm of your hand , you'll see what a nice thing we have going here .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That is cool .
User Interface: So , basically , if you hold it like that , the one on your thumb , yeah , {vocalsound} the thumb button is the power button .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Your index finger is channel up , middle finger is channel down , ring finger is volume up , your pinkie is volume down .
Marketing: What's the big blue thing ?
User Interface: That's the lock button , has a L_ L_ on it
Marketing: Oh cool .
User Interface: and then the M_ is a mute button . And then it also has digit
Project Manager: {gap} what button ? Um . Oh mute .
User Interface: For muting the uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: And mute .
User Interface: Um and then then you can also {disfmarker} there's a numeric keypad on the top so you can key directly to the to the channel if you want .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: So it's really basic functionalities as far as what keys are available , but we think it's very comfortable and very innovative and it looks different .
Project Manager: That certainly does .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: So all the , I mean the important keys are right at your f f you know right at uh at a convenient place for you to to access them .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Which is ant anti-R_S_I_ .
User Interface: So you don't you {disfmarker} Yeah . It should be .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: And it's also conformable to the size of your hand . I mean if that's too big , it's a rubber remote , so you can , you know
Project Manager: Yeah . 'S great .
User Interface: change that . So d does that uh what {disfmarker} mesh with what you guys were hoping and for and expecting or does it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh it's so cute .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I have one thing about it , but it's a small thing , but it'd mean we'd have to make a right-handed one and a left-handed one .
Industrial Designer: Oh right , yeah .
User Interface: Ah , that's good thinking , yeah .
Project Manager: But , that's I don't see why that's not possible .
User Interface: Yeah , if we build rocket ships why can't we build left-handed and right-handed uh remotes .
Project Manager: Yeah . {gap} They make left-handed scissors , you know . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , I didn't I didn't think about that , but I'd {disfmarker} yeah , {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah , but then but then you can learn to use your right h like I was just thinking if there's left-handers and right-handers in the family , what , they have two remotes ?
Project Manager: Yes s
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I know I know people who have left-handed and right-handed people in the family and they all use the computer {vocalsound} for the whole {disfmarker} the same computer the fes family and they have a mouse , and everybody is using right-handed mouse .
Project Manager: Mm . Sure . Sure .
Marketing: Yeah , I'm sure they'll be able to {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh-huh .
Marketing: I mean it's only pressing buttons , you don't have to do anything , you know , extraordinary . I think everybody can press a button with their left and right hand so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Imagine d are you right handed ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Imagine you're doing it with your left hand , I don't think it's too {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , it's not {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But we can have both uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Have them in stock .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Make 'em more appealing as well .
Project Manager: But um other than that , I mean uh and that's um , you know , that's just something , I think I think it's great , yeah , great idea .
User Interface: Do you think it says {vocalsound} R_R_ ?
Industrial Designer: {gap} I think it does . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I think it's , well , if the R_R_ motto is , we bring fashion to to electronics , I'd say that could be quite fashionable .
User Interface: Fashion to electronics . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . And it's got the b the black and yellow and blue .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Plus red , which is sort of a a fruit and vegetable uh uh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {gap} . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} There you go .
User Interface: So that's that's {vocalsound} our end of things wha uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , very good , yeah .
User Interface: That's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's come up with what we've you know , the things that's what we've {disfmarker} what we were looking at doing , hasn't it , {gap} all seems to be there .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well done .
Marketing: And all the playing around is uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Um before we move on {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , I'm just {disfmarker} do you wanna plug in ?
Project Manager: I need that cable .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Thank you . Yeah . Um . One thing I do need to do {disfmarker} we need to look at , is the costs .
User Interface: The costs , was that what you said ?
Industrial Designer: Play-Doh is very cheap . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well , yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: {gap} um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Play-Doh won't last very long everybody'll go like , oops , it's gone . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: But it's edible .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Chew proof .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Well , they'll buy more of them if you eat them , {gap} .
User Interface: That was the main criteria from the last meeting , it had to be chew proof .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . Uh right . {vocalsound} Okay , now I think we'll do this {disfmarker} I could do {disfmarker} you know , I can do this o on my own or I could do it with you ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh ho-ho .
Project Manager: but it's just easy enough to go through it with you , so we're going for the kinetic power .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And the electronics , we decided on it being just a simple , the easiest thing that's inside it . Ooh .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So {disfmarker} the case , we've gone for the double curved . Um and it's made out of rubber . {vocalsound} The interface is push-buttons . And button supplements well they're in diff special colours , aren't they ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So {gap} special colours .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: It's better for {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Special form , yeah , they're a special form there in shapes and stuff .
User Interface: Yeah , I mean , {vocalsound} these these ones on the side are curved kind of , so {disfmarker}
Marketing: And special material .
Project Manager: Yep . Yeah . Um . Are they made out of any special material ?
Industrial Designer: Rubber .
Project Manager: No they're not . They're not made out of wood or titanium or rubber or anything , they're just simple {disfmarker}
User Interface: The buttons are rubber .
Marketing: Well they're rubber , aren't they ?
Project Manager: Okay . Right .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: So let's see if that comes within budget . And it does . That is gonna cost uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: We're under budget .
Project Manager: Yeah . That's gonna cost ten ten Euro seventy cents a unit to make . And our target was it had to come in at under twelve fifty .
User Interface: That's cool . Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: So ,
User Interface: And we're actua actually making a better profit than we expected .
Project Manager: this is all very very good . The bosses will be very pleased .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , let's just save this so I can e-mail it to you . Uh .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Save it in {gap} save it in the uh {vocalsound} my documents .
Marketing: It's already saved , I think .
Project Manager: Splendid . Okay . So uh , that's {gap} done with this with this um doodah , so you're {gap} . Gonna do {disfmarker} what you were gonna do ,
Marketing: Thank you . Mm .
Project Manager: your evaluation .
Marketing: Oh , yeah . This is where we all get to {vocalsound} I get to write on the , oops , on the board . Right .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh . 'S function {disfmarker}
Project Manager: F_ eight .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: {gap} I love the smell of that Play-Doh .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I cou {gap} . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: have some have some .
Marketing: Okay . So , {vocalsound} evaluation . We're gonna do it all together so we evaluate each criteria . I've got the criterias . And we have to do it on a scale of one to seven , one being true , so it's it's more like it's {disfmarker} fits the criteria , and seven being as in it doesn't fit the criteria . And the criterias are , and I'll draw this up on the board {disfmarker} {vocalsound} so we have a box {disfmarker} {gap} . And this is false , this is just like to keep you informed . So seven's here and one's here and then you've got in the middle . {vocalsound} So the first criteria . Do you all get what we're doing ?
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Okay , cool . Okay , first criteria , look and feel . So the does remote look and feel fashionable to what we talked about ? As it {disfmarker} is it colour-wise and is it spongy ?
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: So what mark should we give for that ?
Project Manager: I would give it a seven .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: As in it's not .
Project Manager: Oh sorry , one , d yeah .
User Interface: Oh , sorry , one . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: A one .
Marketing: A one a one . So I'll just write criteria criteria one we get one . Second criteria , new technology . Have we implemented new technology ? As in the new high-tech {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well , the kinetic thing , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . That was our main technological innovation w every everything else was fairly simple , but the fact that we used the kinetic energy was new .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: So it's {gap} . So we'll give it a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well so the um {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's ergonomic ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but that's not {disfmarker} that's that's a design that's a des that's a design thing , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , but that's not a technological thing , that's another thing , i that's another marketing thing .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah . True .
Project Manager: So on the technical side of it it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . I'd say it's about a a twoish ?
Industrial Designer: Two .
User Interface: It's about in the mid in the middle somewhere ,
Marketing: Two .
User Interface: maybe , yeah , I dunno .
Marketing: Three .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Maybe three , yeah .
Marketing: {gap} three . So criteria three is is it easy to use ?
Project Manager: Easy to use .
Marketing: I think it's a one , I think .
Project Manager: I'd say it's I wouldn't {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: not if you're left-handed it's not . I would give it a I would give it a two ,
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Two ,
Project Manager: 'cause i i it i it i it is more geared for right-handed people than left-handed people , but {disfmarker}
Marketing: so it's {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: But if we make a right-handed and a left-handed then ?
User Interface: If we're gonna have one left-handed and one right-handed then I would give it a one , but otherwise otherwise a two .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Give it a t give it a two .
Marketing: Yeah , okay . {vocalsound} 'Kay , criteria four is costs . {gap}
Project Manager: Cost . It's come in under budget .
Marketing: {vocalsound} 's great .
Project Manager: So that's a definite one .
User Interface: Yeah . That was great .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Amount of buttons .
Marketing: Like the amount of buttons ,
Project Manager: Contains only the necessary buttons .
Marketing: 'cause people like a lot le like {disfmarker} So it's a one ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Um criteria six . R_S_I_ is it good against ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes s yeah .
Marketing: Yes . Very good .
Project Manager: So it's anti-R_S_I_ .
Marketing: It's one . And criteria seven , which is the last one , does it get lost ?
Industrial Designer: It's yellow .
Marketing: Is it easy to get lost ?
Project Manager: I don't think it's gonna get lost easily .
User Interface: {vocalsound} It is very bright , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: No ? But it is smallish .
Industrial Designer: Two .
User Interface: It's not the kinda thing that's gonna slip like between a couch cushion or something , you know . Maybe it will . Uh .
Industrial Designer: T
Marketing: Mm . I think i it would , could be , could get lost .
User Interface: You think it could lost {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} two .
Marketing: Mm . Yeah .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: I mean it {disfmarker}
Marketing: I mean it's not fully it's not fully {disfmarker} like you can't say {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No , I mean
Marketing: I mean , it's not a one , definitely .
Project Manager: I mean , you could still flush it down the toilet theoretically , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay . Yeah , anything , I mean . Okay . It's bigger than the average mobile , I guess .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: But , yeah , it can get lost .
Marketing: The mobiles get lost all the time .
User Interface: Yeah . Okay , yeah , two is fine .
Marketing: But then you ring 'em and you find them . {vocalsound} So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm . Mm .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah . So , that's that . So that's the evaluation , so I'd say {disfmarker} Yay .
Project Manager: Alright it's all all systems go .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We've , we've done well .
Marketing: It's like {vocalsound} {gap} like a number one . Um .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Number one product .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} We can't fail .
Marketing: All done , thanks . We fitted all the criterias . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well done , Reissa .
Marketing: So that's that one .
Project Manager: Okay , I I think um I just wanna put in as Project Manager the you know , little bit of praise for everybody here for how they've worked on it ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: you know , both individually and as a team . You know you've w everyone's come up with their own individual ideas in their own different departments , um and then come together and worked in , you know , integrally , you know , at the right times , psp , you know , especially you two .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's all , you know , gone very very well
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: and and and be you know , has been good communication going on . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , during our design I mean there was some s some heated heated discussion ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but we we kept {disfmarker} we tried to keep it cool and and
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Did you have to go down to the the corporate squash court and bash a few balls about ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: just just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well .
User Interface: {vocalsound} We just had to we just had to squeeze our product a little bit and {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: You know {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Fantastic .
Industrial Designer: It is {gap} .
User Interface: Now you guys have been a a great team . Think we're the we're the envy of all the of all the other R_R_ teams , {gap} .
Marketing: {gap} been cool .
Project Manager: I think {disfmarker} So
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I I , you know , and I think we've co we have come we've come up with something new , something that hasn't been done before , we haven't {disfmarker} we're not just rehashing an old design .
Marketing: In four diff in in four meetings .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Funny , all designer meetings could be this quick .
Project Manager: You know , maybe this isn't a simulation , maybe this is actually {disfmarker} so it's like Sony or someone like that they're they're just , yeah , {gap} they get {gap} {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah I think they're actually trying to find ideas for a ideal remote . {vocalsound}
Marketing: They're using our ideas .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , {gap} two years' time this will be on the market .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Ex exactly that product
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: um thum {disfmarker} we'll go , yeah , we designed that and no-one will believe us .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} But um {disfmarker}
User Interface: So at this stage , I mean , is this the last meeting of the project ? We don't uh have another one after it's gone gone to marke market or something ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: No ,
Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: I think when this meeting's finished like officially , there b we'll get a uh questionnaire to fill in .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Y Oh really ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Or six , uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Just start summarising now . {vocalsound} You can reply to the same message .
Project Manager: I haven't got message .
Marketing: See summary , there . If you just reply to that one .
User Interface: So there's no way to like predict what our {disfmarker} 'Cause we had a {disfmarker} we originally had a {vocalsound} {disfmarker} As far as our financial uh um goals , we had a specific number for profits that we wanted . It was fifty mil fifty million {disfmarker}
Marketing: Was it was it fifty or five ?
User Interface: I don't remember . But there's not a way to compute that , I mean , since we saved on the on the production cost , do we know how much we're making on profit ?
Project Manager: It gets handed over to another department .
Marketing: Depends how much we sell .
User Interface: Uh .
Project Manager: What our what our project was was to come up with the product , basically .
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: {gap} the for the {disfmarker} and just basically is it it come {disfmarker} can {disfmarker} is it within budget . When it c when it comes to all the other things of how to sell it and , you know , the b the profits and all that that's other departments {disfmarker} it's another team that actually work out the mai the {disfmarker}
User Interface: But we have a vested interest {gap}
Project Manager: oh yeah , the {disfmarker} all the guys in the profit sharing , yeah .
User Interface: prof profit sharing {vocalsound} .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um . Yeah , that's it . You know , we've we've we've made i we've made
Marketing: We finished an hour earlier . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: we've designed the product , we've ma we've got the prototype , it's within budget , it's {disfmarker} does everything that we wanted it to do . It's new , it's it's um something that uh {vocalsound} that isn't out there already .
User Interface: I think actually {disfmarker} and one advantage of of this is that after the uh , you know , after this fad of fruit and vegetables passes this will still be c a cool remote , you know .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: We're not we're not you know , tying tying our cart to that one horse {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Well , this is very marketable in that it is it's it's something that's kind of new and looks a bit quirky for people who want that ,
Marketing: Definitely .
Project Manager: it's {disfmarker} that it's um , hang on , I wrote it down here somewhere {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh no I thi I put it in one of my e-mails that I sent off . Um that , you know , it's marketable in the sense that it's {disfmarker} whilst all these other remotes uh actually do give you repetitive strain injury , our one does the complete opposite , you know ,
User Interface: Mm . Mm .
Project Manager: so that's something that's new , which is one of the criteria they asked us to come up with something with something new .
User Interface: Mm . It make watching T_V_ healthy .
Project Manager: Yeah , and if you're not having a good time with the T_V_ , you can f throw it about , you know .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It's fine , it's kid proof .
Marketing: Just don't sh don't throw it at any of the ornaments and break them .
User Interface: Uh .
Project Manager: Well , you can break the ornaments , but you won't break that .
Marketing: No {gap} .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . So all in all , I think we've done very well .
Industrial Designer: Mm yep .
Project Manager: Well done everybody .
User Interface: Right , you too .
Marketing: Yay .
Project Manager: Um . Drinks are on the company .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Cool .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: In the corporate bar that's next to the corporate swimming pool on the top floor that we're that've all just gained access to .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Mm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Glad to hear that .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . That's it .
User Interface: That's it .
Project Manager: Well , as far as I t as far as I know . Um .
Marketing: Yep . We haven't got the five minute left thing yet .
Project Manager: No . Anyone wanna play I spy ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm mm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I guess it's probably better that we wrap it up than have five minutes of silence . Should we call the day then ?
Project Manager: Yeah , I guess . I mean we're gonna get asked to fill out another questionnaire .
User Interface: Uh , right .
Project Manager: Um . It's probably gonna be the same as one we've done before .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: But I'm not the authority to say that it is .
Marketing: In {gap} project .
Project Manager: Um how does everyone feel about the technology that's been used in this ? The sort of using of the the pens and writing on these special pads and all that ?
Marketing: I love it . {vocalsound} I love it . {vocalsound} I think it's cool .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Being all wired up and a vibrating pen and {disfmarker} it's cool .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Being watched . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Your moment to shine .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Wow .
Project Manager: I thi you know , I'd I'd n yeah , as we said earlier , I've not {disfmarker} never seen that before . {gap} something that t the whiteboard
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: thingy , {vocalsound} that's great . Um , but a p a pen with a camera on it , I don't think it's such a new thing . I mean it's i or in such a new idea . It would be different if it was sort of hand writing recognition stuff , but as it's not {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: it's literally that'll come up on a computer screen as a picture file rather than actual text .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Right , I think they do want to do hand writing recognition on that , it's just the first step .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah . Mm .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Logitech .
User Interface: I guess we should end this , since we're off off topic . So . Shall we {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Meeting adjourned .
User Interface: Right .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .


Industrial Designer: {gap} .
User Interface: Hello {vocalsound} . 'Kay .
Project Manager: You all saw the newsflash ?
Industrial Designer: It's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Or you got the same message ?
Marketing: Yeah I I just saw it one minute ago .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah sorry .
Industrial Designer: I don't know .
Marketing: When I uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I didn't see it yet I think .
User Interface: Newsflash ? D did I miss something ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah I received an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the folder , but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah pretty much .
Industrial Designer: Hey what's wrong with my computer ?
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Is it unlocked ?
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: Mm . Yeah that's my presentation . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Woah . I uh kind of opened it {gap} .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Huh ?
Marketing: Mm ?
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: What the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh right .
User Interface: I think you have to uh change your desktop uh
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: size .
Marketing: Ooh . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: 'Kay . Everybody ready ?
Industrial Designer: Not really .
Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Sorry .
Project Manager: No no no . Yes yes yes .
User Interface: {gap} computer is uh not functioning ?
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay . Where do I find this ? I'm not so g display huh ?
User Interface: Uh display .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: And then uh settings ?
Industrial Designer: Appearance ?
Marketing: Huh .
User Interface: Mm I'm not sure I {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} You read the newsflash ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: 'Kay . Can we get started
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: No what was it about ?
Marketing: Hmm .
Project Manager: or is there some pressing issue ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah my computer is not functioning properly .
Project Manager: Oh no pressing .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Did you plug in the power cable when you come back ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . No but my screen is reduced in size . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . That's difficult . Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: What ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Feedback .
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: {gap} alt delete . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Format . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Format save .
Marketing: {gap} . So it doesn't draw the attention away .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: This is dreadful .
User Interface: I made uh uh my own map .
Project Manager: Oh yeah sure .
Industrial Designer: No not this , but the task .
User Interface: It's a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You have Playstation also ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} No that's okay . No I just flapped it , closed it , took it here and then this happened . Ah . Uh {disfmarker} where was it ? In settings ? Okay . Alright . Thank you .
Project Manager: Huh .
Industrial Designer: Do you guys like your tasks ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do and then a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know the information that I need .
User Interface: Yeah wa wa you actually {disfmarker} Yeah . But it it's not clear what you have to to to type uh type in your presentation .
Industrial Designer: So frustrating .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . I I had a whole idea and then just was typing it and then oh . I have to do that so switch .
Industrial Designer: Yeah {disfmarker} Yeah exactly . This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Really annoying .
Project Manager: Okay . So there we are again .
Marketing: By your humble P_M_ .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay this is the agenda . Um we have three presentations , I heard .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Really . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah really . {vocalsound} So who wants to start ?
Marketing: Yeah that's fine {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: We have to start it right away ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . Uh this is you ?
Marketing: Functional ? Yeah functional requirements .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
Marketing: Alright . I'm gonna talk about functional requirements . Um {disfmarker} Well uh some research has be done uh has been done . Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control . Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire . The findings were um , well you can see them for yourself . They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls . {vocalsound} Users think they're ugly . Um {vocalsound} they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users . So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it . Um {vocalsound} they are often lost somewhere in the room . Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control . And they're bad for R_S_I_ . {vocalsound} I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay . Um {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Ts
Marketing: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions . Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings , mono , stereo , uh pitch , bass . Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that . Um but they are used . I mean the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So they do need to be in the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah they do need to be on the on the remote control .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: I mean if you can't control the the sound settings {disfmarker} I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something , you you need to change that .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} often .
Marketing: So um yeah we have to .
Industrial Designer: By the way my T_V_ doesn't have an equ equaliser but
Marketing: We c we c Yeah I mean w we can't {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Next generation does . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} okay .
Marketing: my my T_V_ has ,
Industrial Designer: No . {vocalsound} Alright .
Marketing: but we we can leave them uh away . Uh most relevant , uh most used functions , uh they speak for themselves I guess . Uh power button , uh channel , volume selection . Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash , and teletext is so outdated that it it's i should not be used uh any more in the future .
Project Manager: N not used anymore .
Marketing: So forget this one .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Uh channel settings , so for programming uh your channels in in the right order .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: By the way where did you guys get that newsflash from ?
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound} I was wondering uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I didn't get anything .
Marketing: Yeah , {vocalsound} on on the project uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . Not by mail . I receiv the mail but you don't . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: But you you've got more information than {disfmarker} uh .
Marketing: No so it's a text file n in the project folder . So teletext can be skipped .
Project Manager: That's in the presentation , so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control . Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition . Well we got an update for the for the audience . Or the the the targeted group . So it's above forty I guess .
Project Manager: Uh below I believe .
Marketing: The new product ? Or below {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah below forty .
Marketing: because that's pretty relevant .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: I thought I read a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Our current customers are in the age group forty plus .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Project Manager: And the new product should reach new markets , which is the customers below forty .
Marketing: Below ? Okay well {vocalsound}
User Interface: But where did you get uh that information ?
Project Manager: That's in a newsflash .
Marketing: that's that's in the newsfla
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: okay that's a good to know . Um because you see see a clear distinction between the age groups , concerning the features .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition . Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are . So I think we can build that in . Um {disfmarker} Yeah well we can skip this part as well , because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features , but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting . Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible . Um and and also there's {disfmarker} so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them , and stuff like that . So the physical uh aspect of it . Um {disfmarker} And I think {disfmarker} and certainly for for the for the lower age groups , uh nice design , which uh does not make the remote control {gap} in your room .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: It's it's actually a part of your interior , of of your design in your room . So it's {vocalsound} the people can say , well what's that , well that's my remote control , so it's d it has to look nice and feel nice , and and have all the functions that uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . But it also needs to have corporate identity .
Marketing: Yeah so the the logo has to be
Project Manager: Present and the colours .
Marketing: uh present yeah , and the colours as well .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So we can't change much of that .
Industrial Designer: Do we have {disfmarker} uh yeah {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah so but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing has to have a colour anyway , and most of the times there is a brand present on it .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: So I think that's not gonna gonna affect it very uh very much .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: It's open already so you can use {gap} to
Marketing: {gap} .
Project Manager: find yours .
User Interface: Mm . It's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: F_ five .
User Interface: F_ five . Okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Go Jurgen .
User Interface: Oh . What is this ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh no . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: How do I uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You pressed alt F_ four ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: No no no . I pressed the mouse button .
Project Manager: Oh great . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It's {disfmarker} th that's the self-destruct button .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Okay .
Project Manager: Uh maybe you can do it from your computer so talk us through it .
User Interface: Okay . Um if you all go stand around uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Just {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Computer {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Sure .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's nice . {vocalsound}
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: F_ five . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: I uh had uh two examples .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and buttons .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: This the easy one
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: I think we have to to combine them . And uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Um but yeah the the age is uh under forty ?
Project Manager: The mm yeah .
Marketing: Yeah and and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot of functions .
User Interface: So we {disfmarker} Okay so so we have the option for more functions .
Marketing: So not not too much but {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech {disfmarker}
Marketing: And the speech recognition yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: alright .
User Interface: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids . It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options . But {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah from age of sixteen so yeah .
User Interface: Yeah but I prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah . We have to to make them very easy so for just uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else , you should use use an uh an advanced option .
Marketing: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device , only your television .
User Interface: Okay one device .
Project Manager: Yeah . So n it's very easy .
User Interface: Okay . I didn't see {gap} .
Marketing: So w
Project Manager: Now yeah it's okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay and I also uh yeah . W yeah .
Marketing: So there are not extra options in this case , but uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: We have to make it fashionable . Like you uh said uh before .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Uh yeah the basic functions . Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed .
Project Manager: Yeah so maybe you can hide them or something .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options , you can put that in the screen .
Project Manager: Yeah you make a screen menu or something .
Marketing: And the and the {disfmarker} yeah screen menu to to to uh to do that ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and then the basic function just on the device itself .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So it looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen , uh with a clear menu .
Project Manager: Yeah and the other oth other uh functionality is the screen .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: What does the screen do ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} Did I uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Uh . {vocalsound} What are {disfmarker} wh
Project Manager: Yeah . It's low power .
User Interface: did I break it ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: What {gap} .
Project Manager: So what does the screen do ? They said they needed it but what does it do ? What do they want with the screen ?
User Interface: For for the advanced functions I think .
Project Manager: Yeah that's what we make it up .
Marketing: Yeah well it {gap} yeah it didn't
Project Manager: So but what did the marketing {disfmarker}
Marketing: it didn't say what they want to do with the screen .
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: Well I , my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced uh advanced functions .
Project Manager: Yeah okay it's handy . With no predefined uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Like searching for channels and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Ah look .
Marketing: Yeah searching for channels , programming them .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: We have your uh {disfmarker} oh never mind . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We're back online . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay . That's uh {disfmarker} I'm al I'm almost finished so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Um the {disfmarker} we have to to to watch out for the {disfmarker} i if we make it f very fashionable , it it the functional functionality will go down . So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional fashionable
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Content and form .
User Interface: yeah content and form .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Now that that was uh was the end .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} That was the end . Okay .
User Interface: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well you can improvise right ?
Project Manager: Uh which one is it ? Technical functions ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah a little bit .
Project Manager: This one ?
Industrial Designer: Uh no . No no . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Functional requirements ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah I think that would be it then . {gap}
Project Manager: No .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You didn't put it in ? Or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I have no idea .
Marketing: So we we can go for {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That w {gap} .
Project Manager: {gap} it's not really English . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Let me check . I know .
Project Manager: Uh kick off . Oh working design I got it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example , and then a screen on top of it .
Project Manager: Here you go .
Industrial Designer: Alright how do I uh skip pages ?
Project Manager: Just uh press uh {disfmarker} yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The keys yeah ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright . Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information . So I was just working off the top of my head and using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And well the info on the website which came too late .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting . Those were my uh starting points .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule , and I was supposed to do it like this . But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow , so I was trying to organise them for myself .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: And then make the
Project Manager: Design yeah .
Industrial Designer: the design , a the actual design ,
Marketing: Design ? Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but I never came around to do that . So I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: I mean everything speaks for itself I guess . Mean you press a button um {vocalsound} the it tru goes , it sends a signal to a chip ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah frequency . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually . And then uh through a uh transformer , it the signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_
Project Manager: Yeah decoder .
Industrial Designer: and the T_V_ will translate it into a function . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah well this was actually {vocalsound} all I got around to do .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Blank . Yeah okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I mean I dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff , but uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Work harder .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay shou should we make a list of the of all the functions we want uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Whatever .
Project Manager: Yeah . Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah we want to incorporate in uh into it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: 'Kay . Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext , only for T_V_ . Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty , but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control . And we have to decide on the functions , and on the , let's see what was it , uh the target group . We have to make be clear what that is .
Marketing: {gap} group of users , or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah users .
Marketing: because it says below forty I mean . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah so I think it's easy but {disfmarker}
Marketing: I guess that's that's the tar yeah uh or male and female {disfmarker}
User Interface: But uh it's it's also for children or just uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah it's below forty so we can decide where to {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh six {disfmarker} the marketing research started on s on the age of sixteen .
User Interface: Okay . Okay .
Marketing: Sixteen to twenty five , twenty five to thirty five , thirty five to forty five , something like that .
Project Manager: Okay . So below forty is okay .
Marketing: So um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: But we need an {disfmarker} lower level which to s uh focus .
Marketing: How do you mean ?
Project Manager: So is it from sixteen to forty ? Is it from twenty to forty ? Is it from thirty ?
Marketing: Uh sixteen to forty .
Project Manager: Yeah ? 'Kay .
User Interface: Yeah . We we have to {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess .
User Interface: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to to uh sell our product .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions , if you know what I mean .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: The uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions . But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well , so they need a simpler remote .
Project Manager: Design . Mm .
Industrial Designer: And yeah that you can choose what the design displays , or wha whatever .
User Interface: Yeah that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions . The the simple functions for for the the whole public , and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are more yeah experienced with uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} And maybe y
Industrial Designer: Experienced yeah .
Marketing: But uh all incorporated in the screen or or just on the remote itself ?
User Interface: Na I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display .
Marketing: Yeah
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with a kind of sliding bar and a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . So is {disfmarker} you should have a menu for all the the functions you don't use regular and which are {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh you can make a {disfmarker} if you make a drawing .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . Aye yeah .
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker} Uh {gap} .
Project Manager: Shall I uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh black's okay . {vocalsound} And draw it very big .
Project Manager: Yeah . It's okay .
Marketing: Oh . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: {gap} no , it doesn't have line control , so {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah we get the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah well , this is basically uh it's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The remote ?
Project Manager: The remote , yeah ?
Marketing: alright the remote ? Um well usually the power button is on top I guess .
Project Manager: Basic . Is on top . Which should be easy , easily reached with the thumb .
Marketing: Yeah so it should fit right in into your hand .
User Interface: Yeah . L left top or right uh top ?
Project Manager: T I s should said right .
Marketing: Right . Right .
User Interface: Yeah , right .
Industrial Designer: Right top .
Marketing: I most people are right-handed so {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah definitely .
Marketing: maybe left-handed special addition , but okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: If you put it like like here . Or something . I dunno . Um then you could put a screen , like on a mobile phone , also on top I guess .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions , the the basic functions , you normally press them on the u yeah .
Project Manager: Do the also with the thumb . So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb , also reach the middle . Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly .
Marketing: Okay so y yeah you have you have it in your hand , and the screen is below , and the buttons are in the middle .
Project Manager: You you need to be able to hold it so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Okay for example {vocalsound} if you put the screen here , it's more about the functions now than the than the layout .
Project Manager: Yeah okay that's true . Layout . That's for the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Doesn't work too well . It's uh it's bent .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I can't help it . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} .
User Interface: You broke it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Project Manager: Man . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Right .
Project Manager: Yeah okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay you get it . Uh for example if y if you put all the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Right .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You want the normal piece of paper ? And you have a pen ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And might be easier huh ?
Marketing: Maybe this . {gap} kind of works .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Marketing: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all the channels ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Uh .
Marketing: um and here one for for
Project Manager: And the for flipping up and down .
User Interface: Yeah yeah . And volume control .
Marketing: Yeah that that usually uh {disfmarker} like here , here , here , here .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So you have up and down for the for the channels , and left and right for the volume uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And left to right . And those can also be used for the menu .
Industrial Designer: Yeah exactly . I thought {disfmarker} but this is really your department , that we need just the functional display and four cursors .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah okay but this is function so if you can use them for multiple things {disfmarker}
Marketing: And you you have {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And {disfmarker}
Marketing: most of the time you have one button in the middle . It says menu ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah okay .
Project Manager: For the menu . Yeah .
Marketing: and then if you press it you {disfmarker} the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: and then just {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay , to to confirm a a kind of action .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So you scroll into it , okay . You select a function like v like uh bass . You just adjust it with these two buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Then okay to confirm , and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: And then finally say okay , exit . Or or one button to exit it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Uh in one time I dunno , that's not really my department .
User Interface: {vocalsound} And do we need a a logo on our uh remote control , or {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} That's more your uh your department to to uh to {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . But it should be {disfmarker} if the screen is here then the logo should be like on on top ,
User Interface: On the left uh top yeah .
Marketing: yeah . I mean it's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: But it's essential that there is a screen .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than {disfmarker} I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there .
Project Manager: Yeah . And for the speech uh recognition part , if we want to incorporate that , we need a microphone .
Marketing: But um {disfmarker} Yeah so it should be {disfmarker} I mean if you have it in your hand here , should be on top somewhere , maybe .
Project Manager: Yeah . This would be uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Why did we wanna put the display in the bottom ?
Marketing: I mean i
Project Manager: No that's not s sure so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: That's not sure
Project Manager: uh we need a display .
Marketing: but it's {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah may maybe because you're {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Because yeah if you use the functions your hand will block the display .
User Interface: Yeah okay but {gap} only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option , you're going to press the the menu button and then {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more lo logical to me .
Industrial Designer: Normal for logical t
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Also because people use m mobile phones and they also have the screen on top .
Project Manager: Yeah they're used to it .
User Interface: Okay the {disfmarker} yeah . That's possible .
Marketing: So you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean if you grab it .
Industrial Designer: On once it's on it's on . You don't need the power button .
Marketing: But most most of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel to put it on .
User Interface: Yeah , okay . Okay we put it on top .
Marketing: So we put this on top , and then make the corporate logo
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: like over here . R_R_ . And j and the microphone , I mean it can be very small . If you look at your mobile phones {gap} are some stripes , {vocalsound} little little holes .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Maybe on the top or even on the side .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah maybe on the side . I mean if the if the microphone is good .
Project Manager: Yeah but then it's possible that you cover it with your hand so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: True .
Marketing: Yeah okay . So on the on the top is better .
Project Manager: I think that top is the best option .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this , if you put it on the top on the side {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah okay .
Industrial Designer: I dunno . Should be able to work .
Marketing: Yeah . {gap} .
Project Manager: Depends on the sensitivity of the microphone , but I think that's okay .
Industrial Designer: Never mind . Can we leave this up to you ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah it doesn't matter that much . So {disfmarker} but um the screen is on top ? Which functions did we have left ? I mean this is basically numbers , volume , uh channel up and down .
Project Manager: Volume . Up . Channel up and down , and the control of the advanced options .
Marketing: Screen is over there .
Project Manager: So maybe it , we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: Yeah . If we {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . That's uh that's a good one .
Industrial Designer: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right ?
Project Manager: Yeah so sounds ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Like uh bass uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Sound ?
Industrial Designer: so we need kind of an equaliser . If you {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Equaliser . So if you have sound {disfmarker} But not too advanced . I mean most T_V_s use only treble and bass .
Project Manager: Yeah
User Interface: Yeah it it's just a remote control so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and they're {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah treble , middl middle , bass or something .
Project Manager: They're not used often so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . It's uh pretty hard to write .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Ah as {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm . Okay but you have sound ?
Project Manager: Yeah sounds .
Marketing: Yeah just {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: oh y you have digital uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: better write it down over there yeah .
Project Manager: Of course . I'm just a {vocalsound} secretary .
Marketing: So you have sound .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Coffee ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh yeah sound and then within sound I guess treble and bass ?
Industrial Designer: Yes please .
Project Manager: Treble bass .
Industrial Designer: {gap} the mono stereo option ?
Marketing: Yeah . Also .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: And there there was something else also .
Project Manager: Pitch I believe , yeah .
Industrial Designer: And then pitch .
Marketing: Pitch . Yeah . But pitch , isn't that {disfmarker} yeah that's the the height of the tone .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The fr yeah the frequency of the tones , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah okay ,
Project Manager: Yeah and mono stereo .
Marketing: wh why would you use that ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah isn't that that depends on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching .
Marketing: If people like talk like uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And also the tuning part ?
Marketing: Programming part .
Project Manager: Yeah programming . So channel programming ?
Marketing: Uh so we have sound , yeah ? Channel programming .
Industrial Designer: And yeah in the functionality of the
User Interface: Television uh itself uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: no no of the remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them ? As a confirmation or whatever you know ?
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: I dunno .
Marketing: I think it g it gets annoying .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean most mobile phones used that in the beginning but {disfmarker}
User Interface: We we could make an option for it , but uh you can disable s
Industrial Designer: Under the a yeah advanced option menu you can put those things .
User Interface: Yeah . But uh the the television itself has also the the options {gap} brightness and uh screen colour etcetera . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Contrast yeah .
User Interface: yeah .
Marketing: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television with {gap} only three buttons then it's very hard to
Project Manager: Mm . No . Uh , so contrast ,
Marketing: y yeah contrast and brightness ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: bright ,
Marketing: Yeah those are the most used I guess . If you look at your monitor .
Project Manager: uh {disfmarker} And the others were in your presentation right ? So I can just copy those ?
Marketing: Well {vocalsound} yeah well I guess that these were the only ones , I guess .
Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} It's easy . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: But so we have we have T_V_ options , which is all this .
Marketing: Yeah . I will look it up .
Project Manager: Yeah the button options and the L_C_D_ options .
Industrial Designer: The sound , sound and image . And you have in that uh the indeed the remote control options .
Project Manager: Indeed .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So we need two menus kind of thing .
Project Manager: Yeah you have basically a button menu , which you can use directly , uh according to the old principle .
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
Project Manager: And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options , thats communicates with the infrared uh decoder yeah .
Marketing: Yeah with the chip and then {gap} I mean {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So you {disfmarker} You have an additional processor and and software part .
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker} yeah . Well {disfmarker} yeah we have power button , whether that's present .
Project Manager: Compared to o
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Channel volume selection present . Uh numbers present . Yeah a audio settings , mono , stereo , pitch , bass , treble . Screen settings , brightness and colour .
Project Manager: L_ s Yeah . Colour . Yeah I I call it contrast .
Marketing: Yeah con contrast is {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah I make it c colour .
Marketing: Yeah okay , colour and brightness .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Um and what you say , channel settings or channel programming ? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies , and when it encounters one , well it shows on your T_V_ . And then you can um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah and automatically um {disfmarker} Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh and then you can select uh a number in your remote on which you want to save it .
Project Manager: Yeah so I've g channel program is autoseek ?
Marketing: Yeah , autoseek .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh name a channel , or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name , which they get through the cable .
Project Manager: Oh they get automatic names , okay .
Marketing: Yeah . So you only have to choose the position on your
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_ , with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah but can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Help .
Marketing: If you already programmed it .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: If you want to move it . Yeah that should be possible too .
Project Manager: Yeah . How do you call that ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah how do you call that ? Mm ? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something , which w displays all the all the values , all the channels which are possible .
Project Manager: Channels ? Yeah .
Marketing: I mean like one to f thirty of or ninety or whatever .
Project Manager: Ninety nine or something . Yeah .
Marketing: Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if it is programmed .
Project Manager: S swap channels ? Can I call it that ?
Marketing: Yeah . Swap channels .
Project Manager: Swap's good option . Okay . Uh other functions ?
Marketing: So you {disfmarker} most of the time if you if you swap it {disfmarker} S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five . And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five , most of the times you override the previous uh the previous one .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} Okay . Well that's 's up to uh Mister User Interface Designer .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . It's it's pretty uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu
Industrial Designer: {gap} working design . Doch .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Also .
Marketing: on the T_V_ .
Project Manager: That's {disfmarker} you're {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} He only has to figure out how it has to look .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah but also , which buttons you have to press to get a certain result ?
Industrial Designer: And how
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: to use {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was , as I believe .
Industrial Designer: Yeah okay . But {disfmarker} You did your homework . But um {disfmarker} yeah . Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Or or is it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote ? To programme the channels ?
Project Manager: No I don't think so .
Industrial Designer: No no . It should be able to do any remote .
User Interface: No that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh .
Project Manager: But I think the communication with the television is difficult . But that's not our part .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: We don't have to design a protocol so {disfmarker}
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: No .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's true . That's true .
Industrial Designer: Thank god .
User Interface: Okay {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily . I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem .
Project Manager: No that's the {disfmarker}
Marketing: I mean you uh you uh current channel and then then it just says , uh on which number do you want to save this , and you just press a number on your remote , and then say confirm , okay , and then it's it's saved . It's easier , {gap} it's it's it's harder to , if you have already programmed it , to to swap .
Project Manager: Yeah . So but {disfmarker}
Marketing: So we have to think of something for that .
Project Manager: Um {disfmarker} The User Interface Designer can design a menu for all these function I put them on the {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah k kind of structure into layers .
User Interface: On the uh yeah can you i make a a map with with all the {disfmarker} yeah 'cause it's now {disfmarker} there are lots and lots of documents
Project Manager: {gap} . Yeah . Yeah I can .
User Interface: and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I'll just try to reorganise uh things . Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen ? Uh um {disfmarker} I think {vocalsound}
Marketing: And and the layout of of the thing itself .
Project Manager: th I think the yeah the layout of the screen
User Interface: The the layout of the remote control ?
Project Manager: and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} .
User Interface: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface part ?
Project Manager: {gap} . No I d I think that's more in {disfmarker} {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the remote I think are in my department .
Marketing: Maybe more on {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I have to know what it has to do , so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is , I have to integrate that in the design .
Project Manager: Okay . So he's layout and you're function .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Form function okay . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I think that's a that's a good separation .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: But do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also ? Or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Are you going to do that ?
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah I guess so .
User Interface: Yeah ? I I'm going to make {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I think i that's your department yes ,
User Interface: yeah o okay .
Project Manager: because w he already knows what {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah we have to kind of work together .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: If if I make the the the yeah the menu like , I have to state which function has to be in the menu ,
Project Manager: But we're not allowed . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: and then you have to decide , it's , in a in a way that b is user-friendly .
User Interface: Yeah . Okay . Y you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on the the screen , the menu screen .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh with with {gap} pages and yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: With with some l with some layers in it .
Project Manager: Yeah and also make clear which buttons to press to get certain result ,
Marketing: So some menus .
Project Manager: because that's always the difficulty .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Every device has its own {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Well I guess this this button , the the the okay ,
Project Manager: Menu okay .
Marketing: menu okay . Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons . Uh like uh for your mobile phone . Um so this is only for to get in the menu , or to exit it .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: And then one to confirm , and one to go one step back .
Project Manager: Back . Yeah .
Marketing: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone , if you have a Nokia or like that . Or the or the no button .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: To go one step back you {gap} it's only two extra buttons ,
User Interface: Yeah . W we {disfmarker}
Marketing: but if it if it's very clear that they are for the screen {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh I think we have to to group , to make two groups . Um the {disfmarker} one group for the for the display , and one group for the basic functions , and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah but they're incorporated {gap} ? Up and down is {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah okay but we we have a m
Marketing: Yeah because this this is used for both .
User Interface: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Smart ?
User Interface: yeah if you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control , you can press the the menu button , and then you are suddenly into the the yeah the display .
Marketing: Into your screen . Okay . So you
Industrial Designer: You wanna separate uh {vocalsound}
Marketing: l should leave the menu button out of here .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: And {gap} and just put it under the screen , the screen {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Put it on top .
User Interface: Yeah j just just group group the {disfmarker} yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So we make a yeah a line between them .
Marketing: Yeah . But we should place the screen on top , right ?
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
User Interface: F oh yeah . Okay yeah we swap uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: But that's uh J Jurgen's department .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So we make it a {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . You just you just find out and {gap} .
Project Manager: You just make the layout . You {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: do we do the extra two buttons or not ?
User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I think you should .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's easier . If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing .
Project Manager: Yeah okay . That's true .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So we have a a menu button and a s
Project Manager: And to , okay and back , also .
User Interface: Okay . Okay and back button .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah , or confirm and back . Whatever .
Project Manager: And of course the four arrows .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No .
Project Manager: But those are still y doubly used . Both the L_C_D_ {disfmarker}
Marketing: Should we save this picture , or or you know what it looks like ?
User Interface: Yeah I'm I'm not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons . We have a menu button and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . That that just to to activate the screen . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's the the one with the {disfmarker} yeah okay .
Project Manager: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen .
Marketing: And then with these buttons , woa , y you navigate .
Project Manager: You can navigate .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: But you can also navigate the channels . And the volume .
User Interface: Okay so that that's not uh {disfmarker} Yeah that {disfmarker} Those are
Project Manager: Those are both both {disfmarker}
User Interface: multifunctional .
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Hey is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons ? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are used for the menu are ligh li light up .
Marketing: Yeah . L l litten up yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Oh five minutes .
Marketing: That's very good idea .
Industrial Designer: N
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: Light uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah that's a good idea because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now , which you can use .
Industrial Designer: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button .
Project Manager: Yeah sure .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Anything else ?
Marketing: Those buttons are are lit up .
Industrial Designer: I think not .
Marketing: But just one thing . Should we use those two ? Them ? Or only this to to scroll ?
Project Manager: I've {disfmarker}
Marketing: And then use the two functional buttons to confirm , to go into something ? Oh no we have to use this to adjust some some bars ?
Project Manager: Volume .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah keep it optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down in a in one menu .
Marketing: Yeah . And maybe we should use this also as an okay button , still . And then just only a back button .
Project Manager: Well we have those buttons . We use all four .
User Interface: No {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The pr the problem with the okay button in the middle is , sorry
Project Manager: Yeah okay go ahead .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: sorry , uh is uh if you're pressing up and down , you can easily press the okay once you , when you're not already at your choice .
User Interface: Yeah . So maybe make one uh one okay button and and one navigation button .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah that was already decided .
Marketing: And one back .
User Interface: Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh {disfmarker} yeah m a multifunctional navigation button .
Project Manager: Okay that's what we decided earlier on .
User Interface: Yeah okay . Yeah .
Project Manager: Right okay . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You wanna close down huh ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: yeah I wanna close down .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I have to , sorry .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: it's not because I don't like you but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That's okay .
Project Manager: yh we have lunch break ,
Industrial Designer: Already .
Project Manager: and then we can work for thirty minutes , and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes . And then uh we'll see {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright . How m how long is the lunchbreak ?
Project Manager: I don't know . Nobody told me . {vocalsound}
Marketing: We have to ask . {vocalsound}
User Interface: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now ? Or first lunchbreak ?
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: No I th believe there's first lunch break .
User Interface: Because I {disfmarker} I've everything in my head now {vocalsound} so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . Or you can just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I think you can put uh the laptop back in the room and {disfmarker}
User Interface: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: This is {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yes sir . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Time pressure .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Kay . Yeah it's a lot of pressure .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Sorry for my uh not finished presentation uh .
Project Manager: That's okay . Oh yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh no no . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah we'll kick your ass later . No . {vocalsound} Uh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Bring it on .
Project Manager: I don't know if it works but it should be saved .
Marketing: Aye {disfmarker} Y you saved it ? Does it save automatically in the project folder ? Or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . It's uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Okay . We'll see .
Project Manager: Should be here . Smart board .
Marketing: Just put back my laptop .
Project Manager: Don't know if you can use it but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah you can open it with the picture preview or stuff like that .
User Interface: And uh we have to make uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh gathered .
Project Manager: Yeah . I try to organise it by these three .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} . It's it's just my own map so I put everything into the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah {gap} yeah yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I don't really mind . I just put the minutes here and we'll see .
User Interface: But you got some extra information uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah that's just basically what I just showed .
User Interface: But where do you did you get the newsflash ?
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah I got it by {disfmarker}
User Interface: You're the only one uh {disfmarker} okay .
Project Manager: yeah . I'm gonna get kicked if I don't do it so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} internet .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Make me proud .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'll try to .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: So first we have a lunchbreak now ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: I believe so . {gap} just ask . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . I dunno where she {gap} .