User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So I see all everybody's here , 'kay .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Project Manager: And we can start meeting .
User Interface: Okay {vocalsound} .
Marketing: What's the agenda for this meeting ?
Project Manager: The {disfmarker} I will uh present here agenda with with with with slides to you .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Um as you can see here .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Perfect .
Project Manager: So first uh just to mention I will take notes uh of this meeting
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you . I've also made notes of the previous meeting and um I was about to send them you but {vocalsound} then uh I had to go to this uh meeting so you will get them too uh
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Next .
Project Manager: Um .
Industrial Designer: So y you are the secretary also .
Project Manager: Yes . Indeed .
Industrial Designer: Right ? Okay .
Project Manager: Then I hope you all have uh worked out {vocalsound} some some uh {vocalsound} some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previous meeting .
Industrial Designer: Perfectly yeah yeah of course uh-huh .
User Interface: {gap}
Project Manager: Um . W We will uh in a minute we will uh {vocalsound} start with them . Um , we will see in which order we will handle them of . Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I got uh from the uh account manager , I try to work them out , they were quite abstract , and we can have maybe have com some discussion about it . Uh Um about the functions
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: and {disfmarker} Well in this meeting we should really {vocalsound} try to reach a decision about the target group and the functionality of the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: You mean the social target group who we wants to target ?
Project Manager: Yes I mean well yes w who are we going to uh to well to sell this ,
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: {gap}
Industrial Designer: Oh the customers , okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: the customers , indeed yes . Think that's that's important matter .
Marketing: That's the big question yeah .
Project Manager: Uh . {vocalsound} So {vocalsound} And then uh we will close this meeting uh
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch . Good . Um . Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do you have a presentations ?
Marketing: No , I don't .
Project Manager: You don't have presentation ?
Marketing: I wasn't . No .
Project Manager: Uh you want a table to to uh
Marketing: I c I can talk about it but I have no slides or anything .
Project Manager: Yes yes maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybe you can use the whiteboard if necessary um .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Well I've just been um presented with some research we've done in a small focus group so , a hundred people , just asked them about their remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control . Um . It's {disfmarker} probably can't email this to you , I've just got a web page with some data on it . Um basically it's saying that users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls . Um seventy five u seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly . Um .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Eighty percent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy . Um . Current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user . Uh seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot , so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television . Uh . Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons , so they've got a remote control with a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Um .
Project Manager: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page you said ?
Marketing: I have an a web page yes .
Project Manager: Yes , mayb maybe you can can send an email to me later uh . Uh about this .
Marketing: Yep . Yep , sure . Mm-hmm . So basically um there's a breakdown of how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control . Um , power and volume selection are only used a few times within this uh per hour . Um , channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight times um {vocalsound} and then there's things like channel settings , audio settings , which are only used very infrequently .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Um . Teletext is used um fourteen times in the hour , so it is used but not nearly as much as the channel selection is used . Um .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users report that the remote control gets lost a lot of the time in the room , so some way of some way of locating the remote control would be very useful to a lot of users . Um .
Project Manager: Yes yes , I have {vocalsound} that too {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Thirty four percent said it takes too long to learn to use a remote control , they want something that's easier to use straight away , more intuitive perhaps .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Um .
Industrial Designer: It's it's easy to learn or how do you say it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Thirty four percent said it took too much time to learn to use a new one . Yep .
Industrial Designer: Okay too much time to learn . Okay .
Marketing: Um . And thirty {disfmarker} twenty six percent said remote controls are bad for R_S_I_ .
Industrial Designer: Not enough {gap}
Marketing: I don't know how we'd go about combating that .
User Interface: {gap} . What do you mean there ?
Marketing: For R_S_I_ ? Respet Repetitive strain injury .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: So . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm . They think that or do their doctor the doctor says ?
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} But it's it's the opinion of the uh of the users huh ?
Marketing: Yeah . That's what the report says yeah .
Project Manager: So mm .
Marketing: Um and then it's got a demographic breakdown on {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Maybe y y you cannot put this webpage online on the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh I should be able to actually , if I email it to you now .
User Interface: You can disconnect it there
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You can maybe just just {disfmarker}
User Interface: no ?
Marketing: Oh no , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Ah it's {vocalsound} it okay it's a webpage on the C_ it's a file
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: okay .
Marketing: Um , s hang on .
Industrial Designer: O otherwise you yeah . You can connect this one .
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: Then you can connect this one or this one yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: All to your computer .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Well .
Industrial Designer: So these are important numbers that Matthew and I need to take into account for our functional um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh yeah .
Project Manager: {gap}
Marketing: Oh I need to muck around with this . It's probably easier if you put it on yours and then I'll just email it to you . It's just a web link .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah {gap}
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah these numbers have have to be have to be taken into account for the uh both yeah user interface and functional design .
User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: One thing it goes on to talk about , which is interesting , is the {disfmarker} hang on a minute .
Industrial Designer: Because if there are many numbers and we need to select to to constraint uh our design based on what is more important .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yep .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Um , one thing is interesting is talking about um speech recognition in a remote control .
Industrial Designer: Speech recognition in {disfmarker}
Marketing: And who would pay more for that and whether people would find it useful .
Project Manager: D do you have numbers o o on that ?
Industrial Designer: Ah okay .
Marketing: Yes , I'll just get this up .
Industrial Designer: So that we don't {disfmarker} Do we not need any button on the remote control {vocalsound}
Marketing: Well potentially yeah , um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: it would be all based on speech .
Marketing: I think even for interesti
Industrial Designer: Okay . Interesting idea .
Marketing: yeah I think that would not work so well . You wanna have both options .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Well it would it would be a solution for uh when your remote control is lost ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: I mean when it has speech recognition then uh i then it doesn't matter where it is , my {disfmarker} well it's {disfmarker} we should be in range ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: or maybe it can respond and produce sound , so say where it is . But the these are all quite fancy features
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: I'm not sure whether we will we can make this for {vocalsound} for twelve Euro fi and fifty cents {vocalsound} .
User Interface: Well it would be f
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: No you can't .
Industrial Designer: And we don't know where the state of the art of speech recognition is , maybe you know ?
User Interface: Oh . Well , {vocalsound} it depends you know like there is uh it's a very small vocabulary that you want to do the operations like you want to say on , off , one , two , twenty three ,
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: But it's quite noisy if there is the T_V_ uh shouting .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yes ,
User Interface: It's it's going to be li
Project Manager: that that that that's mm .
User Interface: it's not going to be s so easy but u usually it's going to be more of an isolated case
Project Manager: Do you have some more important facts
User Interface: but it's {disfmarker} but I don't know with twenty fi
Marketing: Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: or can we go to the next presentation ?
Industrial Designer: Okay . So
Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: you had to to to summarise maybe the {disfmarker}
Marketing: This is now talking about um who would pay for speech recognition in a remote control , who would pay more for it , um . Ninety percent of the fifteen to twenty five year old market said that they would pay more , it goes down from there , seventy six percent for twenty five to thirty five , thirty five percent for thirty five to forty five , um twenty two percent for forty five to fifty five and then eight percent for fifty five to sixty five .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Okay it's uh decline .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: But we sh
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Decline with age , mm .
Marketing: Yeah , it really depends where we're gonna be targeting this product , um ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: which we'll be talking about later I think .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Yes . We will talk about it later . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Did you get the email ?
Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yep , that one .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Just follow that link .
Industrial Designer: {gap} I thi {vocalsound} You us
Marketing: It'll be in a different window , yep .
Industrial Designer: yeah yeah .
Marketing: That's {disfmarker} left {disfmarker} that one .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Okay perfect . .. .
Marketing: Mm . So that's the figure that I was just talking about there , with the different demographics .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Another thing it's talking about there is the L_C_D_ screen but there's no figures apparently on that .
Project Manager: Mm . Okay . {vocalsound} um
Industrial Designer: Mm 'kay .
Project Manager: Uh maybe uh Mael c c can you give uh uh your presentation uh ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Mm I okay
Project Manager: Oh ,
Industrial Designer: I stay {disfmarker}
Project Manager: this is {disfmarker}
User Interface: Now you can move I think yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm , y y you can move , uh .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I can move as far as {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Maybe I take your chair ?
Project Manager: Yes . You can you can sa take my chair .
Industrial Designer: I okay {vocalsound} .
User Interface: It's a channel selection , a module {gap} , this and this function ,
Marketing: Sorry ? Oh .
User Interface: go to the {gap} . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So I think as everybody knows uh I'm the uh Industrial Designer . And uh in this presentation uh this group presentation um {vocalsound} is gonna focus on the working design of the the remote control . Um I'd like first to give a quick a very simple introduction , how does it work , so that everybody knows even if you don't have a very uh technical background uh what is it because I think in the product it is important .
Marketing: Mm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: So basically um the basic function of a remote control is to send uh messages to another system that is fixed .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: And so an energy source feeds an integrated circuit , the chip , that can compose messages , usually uh through a um infrared bit
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and uh the user interface controls the chip and accordingly the the messages , alright . So my method for um designing the yeah the work design uh yeah first {vocalsound} the the main point is that I would wish to to make a really functional product . I would prefer to have very functional um capabilities rather than fancy stuff that in fact is not used and doesn't work .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: So for that yeah as it's important to take into account the user requirements from the Marketing uh Expert uh Anna
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and um w to to we should agree on what are the technical functions uh for this remote control and I show you the the working design . So um basically uh here is a really large view of what we want {vocalsound} . Uh we want an on off button , it can be uh {disfmarker} it's simple but it's it's important , and also uh {gap} the to both channels as well as other buttons that come after ,
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: right . So the components I quickly draw here , is that in this part you have the remote control the the sender and on the other part the receiver so that's {disfmarker} my method is um will be to well my aim would be to uh design the and choose the chips and the infrared um components to build the remote control
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: right .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So of course we need energy sources and uh uh the receiver a a receiver . This is {vocalsound} very quick uh design , uh you stop me or interrupt me if uh you don't agree on it on that .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: And um so what I have found and {vocalsound} after a lot of work actually I {vocalsound} I draw this I draw for you this uh schema
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
Industrial Designer: that can be maybe too technical for you but is very important for me
Marketing: You drew it a long time ago ?
Industrial Designer: you know .
Project Manager: Is huh
Marketing: Ninety one . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} And uh that's it so I won't go into details about that
Project Manager: overwhelming {vocalsound} .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: but uh these are my preferences to use uh that kind of components .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And and why do you want these kind of component ?
Industrial Designer: So . So
Project Manager: I mean , are they cheap , or are they uh reliable ? What were your {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: found and yeah th you have always a compromise with uh reliability and uh i if it's expensive ,
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: but uh this one was not this one also really uh reliable um so yeah that's it for the working design , uh I hope you get clearer view on uh what what a remote control is uh in terms of uh technical components
Project Manager: Yes . It it it's more clear now I think .
Industrial Designer: but maybe yeah {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: But is it uh can you just buy it on the market and f plug it in or you want to ma
Industrial Designer: No no no no we we will uh {disfmarker} This is a preference but we can always change uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . What I w what I was thinking about uh the the the schema uh about uh the sender and the receiver , I mean can you can you get back to it ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah uh , the receiver is of course already in the television and we are not uh able to change it . So we we must adapt to the to the receiver .
Industrial Designer: Of course yeah .
Project Manager: I I suppose there is a standard uh way of communicating to televisions uh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . We will use uh {vocalsound} infrared protocol uh using {vocalsound} yeah infrared and uh and of course we need to adapt to that protocol that already exists
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and but we what we can do is uh uh adapting {vocalsound} the the chips inside uh to the best uh chips and uh infrared bubbles .
Project Manager: Mm . Mm . Mm . Mm . Yes . Okay .
Industrial Designer: Um . Okay . {gap}
Project Manager: Thank you .
User Interface: Well it to du it's just you had to change the frequencies .
Industrial Designer: The frequencies ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . Of course yeah
User Interface: {vocalsound} But you should be careful ,
Industrial Designer: in the chip you have it yeah .
User Interface: people are sometime becoming problem , like a guy has recently designed a remote uh uh uh which could switch off any other T_V_s {vocalsound} , so basically {gap} through all the things .
Industrial Designer: That can control o other things . Yeah .
Marketing: Ah .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: So maybe we should think of {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Of course yeah we should take that into account
Marketing: That's handy .
Project Manager: Yeah yes
Marketing: So if the b T_V_ in the next apartment's really loud , you can just turn it off .
Project Manager: I I I {disfmarker}
User Interface: yeah .
Industrial Designer: in the uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah so you can just go on the street and then switch off everyone's T_V_ {vocalsound} and you can just walk away {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: You don't have to be near the T_V_ at all {vocalsound} .
Marketing: Yeah . I like that idea .
Project Manager: I I feel I I I think M Mael will will consider this uh th these things .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Maybe Maybe we can go to to your presentation uh Matthew .
User Interface: Yeah
Project Manager: I I I assume you were finished here .
User Interface: so {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Uh okay .
User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound} So I can take I think mine now there .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Okay so voila .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Hmm I can take mine it's okay , voila , mm so mm . Okay .
Project Manager: Oh . I {disfmarker} Uh , sorry ? I know where it is .
User Interface: It's on the desktop .
Project Manager: It's uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Technical function .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: It's uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Like so .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Well . So um I'm going to talk a little bit about the technical function so wha what actually it's about what is the user going to do , I think my last presented what is going inside ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yep .
User Interface: so what's the user is going to see from the outside and how he is going to use it . So well the approach is that uh basically the idea is to send a message to the T_V_ set , as Mael has pointed , and it will be decoded by the T_V_ and usually we it is easier to have uh keys or buttons with which people can uh press and then um changing a button will basically uh change the message which is being sent to the T_V_ and uh {vocalsound} um
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: a and basically it sends an internal signal and decoded by the receiver . So p as um Anna has said that this ki people are interested in things which are you don't need to k press the keys , people are can have a speech recognition but this is uh s a question which will we have to see later .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: But in the present scenario is that you have certain keys and you press it like your mobile phone , and it sends a message to the T_V_ .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
User Interface: {vocalsound} And um so generally mm I don't have some figures sorry but um so there are two kinds of uh remote if you popularly in the household , actually so you have a standard T_V_ remote where you have just a on , off button and play , uh volume change and uh keys for the number and more than one digit option . And if you see for example righ right now uh uh even the one uh on more than one digit option is for two digit channel which is like ninety nine , but {vocalsound} tomorrow you might have one fifty channels you know to browse or two hundred channels to browse who knows , but uh uh . Then there is uh {vocalsound} this is the standard one with without any fancy thing you know like i it doesn't have teletext option , it can without any , it's a very simple thing , um which which you can vouch {vocalsound} . And then you have uh what's the v video remote file which is like usually it has almost all the keys over there and , but it then it has other options like stop uh and then you play the movie or uh or fo fast forward the movie or something like that so i it has those
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: so these are the standard uh commonly found remote controls in the uh market . And then {disfmarker} whi which is generally used by the people . And then {vocalsound} well personal preferences I would {disfmarker} uh basically think of having a kind of aim for the next generation thing where the {disfmarker} we could have both the uh the f a T_V_ and the remote {disfmarker} video remote control because uh some of the keys in the video's remote control and the T_V_ they could be integrated together so that uh we could um aim for the like in the f coming future um that type of uh applications with {disfmarker}
Marketing: Okay . How would that work ? So you've got say maybe a V_C_R_ and a T_V_ which are separate ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: so you {disfmarker} on my one at home I've got a V_C_R_ remote which then changes the channel on the V_C_R_ and doesn't do anything on the T_V_ ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: so is it gonna be like a switch on the remote that says t use the T_V_ or use the V_C_R_ ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: or does it know which one you want to use ?
User Interface: Um actually um you could you could think of um having s a y you can have a key which could tell y it could go to the video thing
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: but um uh yo you you you still can't um in that case when it you use that the function should be able to take up the V_C_R_ option
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: and you could play it or {disfmarker} You can also think about having like um {vocalsound} {disfmarker} I in a few days you will be ha in in few ye coming years you might even have a system where you have a separate uh sitting setup box
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: and uh you have uh um something like uh uh you do you do you suppose you are not able to watch some programme and actually it downloading all the time for you
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Mm .
User Interface: and uh you can just you know uh when you come back you could just switch on that thing and uh watch a program .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: In that case you want to browse faster , browse slow , you want to have those kind of functionalities {vocalsound} .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Mm mm mm mm mm .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: These are kind of next generation {vocalsound} functionalities .
User Interface: It's the next generation thing ,
Project Manager: Mm yes ,
User Interface: but it is going to come in couple of years .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: but I think it's i i it's already there ,
User Interface: It's goi
Project Manager: I mean the hard disk uh recorders uh I I've seen them in the shop .
User Interface: Yeah it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . So
Industrial Designer: Mm 'kay .
User Interface: it's going to record your things and you and you you need basically the functionalities what you need in both uh uh video as well as in the standard T_V_ thing .
Marketing: Mm . Yeah . That's fair enough . Mm . But I don't think we're trying to make a universal remote here . That's ,
User Interface: No no we are not making a universal remote ,
Marketing: yeah .
User Interface: we are just looking at uh giving a scenario , I have a T_V_ and tomorrow I am going to have set up box
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: which is going to sit there and uh it's going to do that job for me .
Marketing: Mm . Because y
Project Manager: W w w w we need to decide on on on on in how far we go to in this .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Mm .
Project Manager: Mean , you can go {vocalsound} pretty far I f I think with with with functions and possible uh future p uh prospects
Marketing: Mm . Yep .
Project Manager: yes .
User Interface: Yeah . So {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But it's good to keep in mind .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Okay so that p ends my presentation .
Project Manager: Mm . Very well .
User Interface: Well . So we can always discuss about it for example uh the presently the video market actually uh this demand , video over-demand or what we call it as , it's presently {vocalsound} booming up actually
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Mm . Yeah .
User Interface: so it i like people are providing like uh things like uh uh movies , you can select actually so you want to watch a movie and uh your p your provider gives a list of movies , and then you select those list .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: And it
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: basically you go off , it downloads the movie , it gives for you
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: and then when you come you want to loo watch it on your T_V_ .
Project Manager: Good .
User Interface: And thi this is going to come .
Industrial Designer: Or even you don't need to download it , it's streamed uh online uh yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah it can be streamed online for you and you can say what time I want to watch the movie
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah
Project Manager: Um , so u um
User Interface: so . Yeah .
Project Manager: I have uh received some some some some well points of of thinking over of my account manager and uh I would like to share them with you . Um
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: first thing is uh teletext is a well known feature of televisions
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: but it's it's getting used less and less .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: That's that's especially because of the internet of course .
Marketing: Hmm .
Project Manager: So we should think about it um . Do we include it , and do we give it a prominent uh prominent uh place on on on the on well huh on the remote mot control itself .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Uh as uh a in any case it's it's not used , well very much , but it's it is still used . Um
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Um .
Project Manager: further yes we must think , uh do we stay uh to to television only , the television as we as we all know it with with broadcasting signals and you can't go back uh huh , or do we uh uh go further as Matthew indicated by supporting uh uh recording uh devices ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So D_V_D_s and V_C_R_s ?
Project Manager: Uh indeed indeed .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: And and and the hard disk recorders . Um , furthermore , uh , w we need really need to interest uh {vocalsound} y younger customers and then with younger customers I mean people uh below the age of forty ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and our our current customers are mainly forty plus
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: uh which well
Industrial Designer: Fourteen
Project Manager: {disfmarker} Forty .
Industrial Designer: or for O okay .
Project Manager: So
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: that's to that's I mean there's a market but uh they will grow older {disfmarker} older
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and you'll al {vocalsound} always need to have the the future with younger people .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um therefore , {vocalsound} younger people like trendy {disfmarker} trendy designs , so that's w we should make our our our R_C_ as trendy as possible but it should also be uh have a reliable image , so when it looks too too spacey or too fancy people will think well does it work at all .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: Yeah it's uh well you you can follow the ideas how you want to keep the keys , you know right now if you take it you have like zero , one , two , three like a keys separately ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: but suppose if you take the the present trend of mobile phones there are like big thick keys
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: you press on the top , it takes one number , you press on the bottom it takes another number , and uh basically uh uh so the space covered so that you don't see two separate keys there actually
Industrial Designer: {gap} Mm-hmm .
User Interface: so it it is like uh um i i it is like uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Ma Maybe Maybe you can draw it on the on the board uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm . But I think taking the idea of getting inspiration from mobile phones is interesting , especially if we're going after a younger market ,
User Interface: Yeah so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Hmm . Yes yes
Marketing: that's the the the mm the new and the funky things ,
Project Manager: mo
Industrial Designer: Because they are already used to that , you know , product .
Marketing: that's ,
Project Manager: Yes it's recognisable {gap}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: yeah , there's lot there's lots of pretty mobile phones , not too many pretty remote controls .
Project Manager: Mm mm .
Marketing: That's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And and they are skilled uh by using it .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: So for example uh {disfmarker} Well uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . .. .
User Interface: Okay , it works . Fine . So , for example you have uh presently uh keys like one , two , three like this , actually , and uh uh four five six like that and uh you can have keys like this in form like uh keys like that
Project Manager: Mael can you hand me over this uh ?
Industrial Designer: Yes . {gap}
Project Manager: Uh thank you .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Okay . How much longer have we got for the meeting by the way ?
Project Manager: Mm well
Marketing: 'Cause we haven't talked about demographic at all
Project Manager: I think fi five min
User Interface: Forty minutes ?
Marketing: and it's a very important issue .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah so you you you can have uh keys like uh which are which are like so . {vocalsound} too sorry , so we basically don't change the uh original order of them
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: but then the keys are more spacious ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: they don't look uh {disfmarker} so there there is a very sligh thing , so if you press on the top it takes the one , it takes the three , uh four , sorry four here uh five and six ,
Marketing: Mm . Mm .
User Interface: so the keys can be it looks you know not very much cluttered but it looks nice
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: for you don't have too many keys
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: but you can have a lot of options t if you press on the to
Project Manager: Okay . 'Kay I I think now that the idea's clear .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Uh we should now uh try to decide um on our target group .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Which I think is quite tricky .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um , basically we're trying to get people to buy a remote control {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: wouldn't they already have a remote control with their television when they buy one ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Of course they have already one . So our our our remote control has to be better .
Marketing: But it's not going to have more functionality ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: 'cause it's only a low market , it's a cheap-end remote control , we can't beat modern functionality , we might {disfmarker} we'll be able to {vocalsound} beat them on th the look of it , th the design of it but that's not a big seller , if they're not just going to buy a new remote control just 'cause it looks pretty , they have to actually need it as well .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So I'm not sure how we can get people to buy this thing .
Project Manager: Mm . I {disfmarker} well I think {vocalsound} many people said uh in your in in your research uh uh uh the appearance of the uh R_C_ is is important when they are buying one
Marketing: Mm . Yeah . But why are they buying one in the first place ?
Project Manager: but {disfmarker} Indeed . So that will be about functionality {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm . But if people are buying a new remote control for functionality they'll buy a universal remote . I've got friends who've got so many things they need a universal remote , otherwise they're using five different remotes for their all their things .
Project Manager: Mm . Mm-hmm . Mm .
Marketing: In that case they wouldn't buy our product , because it doesn't give them what they need in terms of functionality .
Project Manager: So your you think we should go for a more u universal high-performance {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well , we can't , with the price range . We We're not building a universal remote , we're not building a high end product .
Project Manager: What do {disfmarker} What do you think about {disfmarker} What componen
Industrial Designer: Yeah we have yeah twelve point five Euros uh per uh per R_ s R_C_
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: and I think uh with this now you know that chips are very uh cheaps
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and uh we can include it in our control some new new features .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . And um {disfmarker} But yeah
Marketing: But {disfmarker} yeah . If we're getting into universal remote territory , we're getting to L_C_D_ screens and things like that
Industrial Designer: that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: which would drive the cost up a lot .
Project Manager: I don't know . I don't know whether that's necessary .
Industrial Designer: Ye
Project Manager: Is the L_C_D_ screen {disfmarker}
Marketing: For universal remotes {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I don't think L_C_D_ is not necessary {disfmarker} well , th for long term .
Marketing: If you {disfmarker} mm .
Project Manager: I think thi this could be this could be a market because uh universal remote controls uh tend to be uh quite expensive .
Marketing: And quite complicated to use ,
Project Manager: S so we can try to go in between ,
Marketing: yes .
Project Manager: and offer a product which is not as expensive and not as complicated
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Not as flexible maybe , yeah , but s
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: yeah .
Project Manager: but but still but still people have the idea this is more functional than a normal uh uh R_C_
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Universal .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: because it has more uh it it is in some kind universal .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: But if we're going for the say fifteen to twenty five age group then not many of them would actually own T_V_s to use a remote control on .
Project Manager: Mm yes but w we're targeting I think on more on the on the twenty to forty group .
Marketing: Okay . So they're {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: People {disfmarker} yes . Who just have or already have a job and have the money but may not want to spend that much money on a on a universal universal control .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . Yep . I don't know really what the the price range for remote controls is . Are we gonna be at the very bottom of the price range , or are we kind of middle to bottom ? I don't know .
Project Manager: Uh well
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think uh when we think it over I thi I think we are trying to offer the a kind of universal control for for less money .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: So d Do you agree ?
User Interface: Well {disfmarker} Well I it's fine with me like the price as long as it is uh not too expensive .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah
User Interface: Uh and it d uh {disfmarker} Our provin
Industrial Designer: because we have to take into account that we are gonna b we are gonna sell uh four aro around four million so when we speak about these numbers uh the price of a chip is {vocalsound} uh price of a chip is very cheap .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} So I'm okay for designing um a ne uh less {vocalsound} yeah a a kind of universal uh R_C_ yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . You think it's possible for the twelve Euro fifty ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Um so then we we decide on on on going to this more universal kind of control .
User Interface: Uh yeah , that's that's what we needed basically .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm . Mm . Okay .
User Interface: Uh that's needed right now . And uh basically you can look to the standards of other {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah that's needed , yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: And if we want to get the market , we really need that .
Marketing: Yeah . So I guess what I'd like from a universal remote is maybe choosing between three devices , being able to switch between them , there may be stereo , V_C_R_ and T_V_ .
User Interface: Actu
Industrial Designer: Yes . Exactly . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: And just be able to s use them all from the same remote , but not at the same time .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah you can also browse through all the standards you know , where are the limit of standards for all of them and you can just browse through them .
Industrial Designer: Is that okay for you ? Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm mm mm mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: So given we are going for this uh uh universal type uh m {vocalsound} maybe it is good when you try to find out which components you therefore need and y you will try to get more specific uh user interface content
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Okay . Okay .
Project Manager: and uh maybe you can look on on what trends are in this uh in this type of market .
Marketing: Mm-hmm yep .
User Interface: Voila {vocalsound} . Hmm .
Project Manager: So anyone uh has a point to bring in
User Interface: So . Well .
Project Manager: or shall we {disfmarker} no .
User Interface: Oh I don't have anything right now . We can we'll we'll go
Industrial Designer: Oh
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: that's that's fine then .
User Interface: and we'll I'm sure we'll up something good
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: W yes ,
User Interface: for the {vocalsound}
Project Manager: we uh we can have lunch now .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: So um Then th th the next meeting will uh
User Interface: Yeah so we meet in {disfmarker} well {vocalsound} what are our {disfmarker}
Project Manager: after lunch you have uh we have uh thirty minutes of work and then we have the next meeting . But you will be informed via the computer .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Cool . So see you later .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay {vocalsound} perfect .


Project Manager: Yep . Soon as I get this . Okay . This is our last meeting . Um I'll go ahead and go through the minutes from the previous meeting . Uh and then we'll have a , the prototype presentation . {vocalsound} Um then we will um do an evaluation . Uh or we'll see what , what we need to have under the criteria for the evaluation . Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget . Um then we'll do the evaluation , and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need to make , or hopefully everything will fall right in line . Um let's see , minutes from the last meeting . Um we looked at uh the the trends . We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel . It was twice as important as anything else . Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles . Um and a spongy feel . So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype . Um they wanted limited buttons and simplicity . Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our own remote . Um looking at other other devices . Um the iPod , we really liked the look of that . Um we also had uh the kid's remote for a simple idea . Um a two part remote , which was what were were originally looking at . Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uh predominant and easier to use . But I think we've still decided not to go with that . {vocalsound} Then we looked at the components um the materials for the case , the different energy sources , the different types of chips , um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote . Um and basically how , what were making for the prototype . So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guys take over .
User Interface: The prototype discussion .
Project Manager: The prototype yeah . Do you need a {disfmarker} this ?
User Interface: No . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Can try to plug that in there
User Interface: There is our remo {gap} the banana .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Um {vocalsound} yeah basically we we st went with the colour yellow . Um working on the principle of a fruit which was mentioned , it's basically designed around a banana .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um but it would be held in such a fashion ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: where it is , obviously it wouldn't be that floppy 'cause this would be hard plastic . These would be like the rubber , the rubber grips . So that's so that would hopefully help with grip , or like the ergonomics of it . Um but all the controlling would be done with this scroll wheel . You have to use your imagination a little bit . And this here represents the screen , where you , where you'd go through .
Project Manager: Very nice .
User Interface: And the the simplest functions would be um almost identical to an iPod , where that one way ch through channels , that way th other way through channels . Volume up and down . And then to access the more complicated functions you'd you sorta go , you press that and go through the menus . It's that that simple . That just represents the infrared uh beam . That's a simple on and off switch . Um I don't know , we could use the voice . T that blue bits should be yellow , that that'd be where the batteries would be I suppose . And um {vocalsound} that's about it . It's as simple as you , we could make it really .
Industrial Designer: Right .
User Interface: Is there anything you want to add ?
Industrial Designer: That's what we have there . That's plastic . Plastic covered with rubber . We might uh add some more underneath here . Maybe give it , give it a form . I mean you're supposed to hold it like that , but um just if you grab it , take it from somewhere ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker} yeah ,
User Interface: Doesn't make much make much difference .
Industrial Designer: you have some rub yeah .
User Interface: You could work left-handed or right-handed I suppose .
Industrial Designer: Exactly , {gap} use both . Might as well think about {disfmarker}
User Interface: T the actual thing might be smaller .
Industrial Designer: Th think about the button as well . Like either put either one {gap} one on either side or
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: What but what's that button ?
Industrial Designer: not do it at all . It's a quick on-off button .
User Interface: Just the on and off .
Project Manager: Uh , 'kay .
Industrial Designer: That's um
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: yeah I think it's pretty important . So you don't have to fiddle with that .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: Right ? Um that's not um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I'd say a bit smaller would probably be nice . You wanna play with that over there .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: There you go .
User Interface: It's you know it's flimsy 'cause it's made out of heavy Play-Doh ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Would you like to uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Right .
User Interface: but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Pretty impressive .
Project Manager: Well done .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Kind of a banana .
User Interface: And whether or not it would fall into the cost {gap} everything I suppose . With the scroll and the L_C_D_ .
Project Manager: Well luckily we are going to find out . Or not luckily . Um do you have a marketing presentation for us .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I do . Okay . You guys are gonna help me do an evaluation of the criteria . Um . Okay . So first I'll just discuss some of the criteria that I found . Just based on the past trend reports that I was looking at earlier . And then we'll do a group evaluation of the prototype . And then we will calculate the average score to see how we did . Um so the criteria we're gonna be looking at are the complaints um that we heard from the users who were interviewed earlier . So we're gonna be doing it based on a seven point scale . And one is going to mean true , that we did actually achieve that . With seven being false , we did not achieve that . {gap} . Okay . So for the first one , we need to decide , did we solved the problem of the users who complained about an ugly remote ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I think it's definitely different than anything else out there .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So if they think that what is out there is ugly , then yes I would say , I would say most definitely .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I would {gap} .
Project Manager: It's bright .
User Interface: It's bright . It's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It still has your traditional black .
User Interface: It's curved . It's not {disfmarker} there's no sharp
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: angles to it .
Project Manager: Yep , not angular .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: I'd say , when it comes to the ergonomics , the form and stuff , yes that's definitely more beautiful than your average .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: However the colour , we don't have a say in that .
Marketing: Yeah I think the colours detract a little bit . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Some people might say it . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: That has been , that has been dictated pretty much by the company .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: So uh to answer that honestly I would rather say like uh , we have not solved the problem completely with the ugly remote because the colour is ugly , definitely .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yep .
Marketing: That's true . Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'S nothing you can say about that . I mean I much prefer something like brushed chrome with that form .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah something more modern to go {disfmarker} a a modern colour to go with the modern form .
Industrial Designer: Right . Right . It's different . You don't want your uh three feet huge L_C_D_ dis display in your living room that's hanging from the wall to be controlled with something like that .
Marketing: Um okay so , do you think , since we {disfmarker} This was a a sign criteria , do you think maybe we should put it somewhere in the middle then ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Does that sound good ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: What do you think ? Three ? Four ?
Project Manager: I would say
Marketing: Five ?
Project Manager: four . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Four is fair . Okay .
Project Manager: Very non-committal , four .
Marketing: Okay , the second one . Did we make it simple for new users ?
Industrial Designer: It's very intuitive , I think yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . I think that was the main aim , one of the main aims that we had .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} S give it a one .
Marketing: One ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: 'kay . Okay . Um , do the controls now match the operating behaviour of the users ?
User Interface: Uh yeah . 'Cause we've we've brought it down to basically four controls {gap} most common , which are channel and volume .
Marketing: I'd say that {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Right .
User Interface: And then the other ones are just a matter of just going , just scrolling further .
Project Manager: S scrolling through and selecting a few .
Industrial Designer: Right . So that's a one .
Marketing: So one ?
Project Manager: I think that's a one .
Marketing: Yeah ? {vocalsound} Okay . Okay um the fourth one . How about the problem of a remote being easily lost ? One of the number one complaints .
Industrial Designer: Something that big and that yellow you just don't lose anymore .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Whether you want to or not , you're not gonna lose it . {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's bright yellow .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Bright yellow's hard to lose . But um if we were to , if we were , that , the speech recognition . That , we could maybe just use that solely for the the finding thing . That was what we'd we'd mentioned .
Project Manager: So if we incorporate speech recognition into it then it could {disfmarker}
User Interface: Just just to use , to find it when it was lost . But like I said , like I don't think you'd lose something so yellow so easily .
Industrial Designer: Oops . Hmm .
User Interface: And it's not gonna fall , like a rectangle would slip down behind things . That's gonna be a difficult shape to {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well what {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And it is quite bright and {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Maybe in the middle again , three or four or something ?
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: S
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: I mean you know {gap} loo losing things is one of those things that people can lose , I mean a million ways .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: You can pick it up and walk away with it and then you've lost it .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: That's true .
Project Manager: But if we do go with the , with the speech recognition , then it , then our scale goes up quite a bit I think .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Oh yeah . You probably {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Probably two . You know . If we eliminate the fact that you know it's impossible to guarantee that it's not gonna be lost then
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: I'd say two .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: With the speech recognition , which of course may be changed depending on budget .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Y you could add an extra feature actually . Which makes this thing raise hell when you remove it too far from the television .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: We could add that but that's nothing we have thought of so far .
Project Manager: Which , which may be cheaper than speech recognition if it were just a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah true . But I mean d just those whistling , clapping key rings you have . They're cheap .
Marketing: Annoying alarm or something ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It's it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So it can't be that
Industrial Designer: Um the {disfmarker} it's based on this anti anti-theft technology for suitcases and stuff ,
User Interface: expensive .
Project Manager: Some sort of proximity {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: where you have one piece that's attached to your luggage , another piece that starts beeping . That can't cost much .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that can also easily be integrated because these things are small enough to to hide , so you have one piece , you have to glue somewhere behind your {disfmarker} stick it behind your T_V_ and the other {disfmarker}
User Interface: {gap} stick it on the T_V_ {gap} .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Pray that you don't accidentally lose that piece . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Right .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: That'd be tough then . {vocalsound} Well also your remote would uh alarm you if somebody stole you t your television , yeah . Ran off with it without taking the beautiful remote control .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: So . Are we adding one of these two features ?
Industrial Designer: Let's add one of those features and say yes . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} gonna say {disfmarker} okay .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: So we're {vocalsound} back to a one ?
User Interface: Two .
Marketing: Or a two ?
Project Manager: Two .
Industrial Designer: Two .
Marketing: Two , 'kay . Okay . Are we technologically innovative ?
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} I'd say so .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh don't get many mo remote controls with
Industrial Designer: It's all just {disfmarker}
User Interface: screens on .
Industrial Designer: It's all just stolen technology when it comes down to {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah it's stolen technology .
Marketing: From iPod yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: But we have {gap} .
Project Manager: But there's not a lot of yellow , there's not a lotta yellow .
Industrial Designer: right
Marketing: But for remotes {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Course that wasn't really {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: right
User Interface: Fa
Industrial Designer: right right .
Project Manager: we were kinda forced to take that colour .
Marketing: Two ? Three ?
User Interface: {gap} 'cause it's stolen .
Project Manager: I don't know that we are that innovative , to tell you the truth . {vocalsound}
User Interface: No maybe not .
Industrial Designer: Yeah not really .
Marketing: But how many remotes do you see like this ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: If we added the screaming factor {vocalsound} then we go up .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Not so many .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um I would say we're probably at four .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: Really ? Okay . {vocalsound} That's gonna hurt us .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay . Um spongy material ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah well you have that , kind of , sort of .
Project Manager: We have some spongy , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah as much as as needed , I think .
Marketing: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: It's not a one though .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: One would be the whole thing
Project Manager: Yeah . Because it's only got what , these parts are the grips and perhaps the back side {disfmarker} the bottom {disfmarker} the underneath on the back .
Industrial Designer: to fold and stuff . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So that's a four at most .
Project Manager: Probably a four at most . Possibly even a five .
Marketing: And lastly , did we put the fashion in electronics ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Y yes .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I'd say we did .
Project Manager: If your fashion is b is Carmen Miranda , you betcha . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: More {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well the recent fashion is rather displayed in the in the L_C_D_ and the way you operate it than the form and the colour ,
User Interface: On the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's true .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but it definitely is {disfmarker}
User Interface: Be what we were told , and they'd say yeah , definitely .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Marketing: 'Kay . Alright . Now we just gotta calculate . Six eight twelve sixteen . Seventeen divided by s
User Interface: {gap} .
Project Manager: Seven is {disfmarker}
Marketing: Eight .
Project Manager: Two point {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} two point four ?
User Interface: Is that some long division ? No .
Project Manager: Something .
Marketing: Well I haven't done math in years .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: What two {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I dunno .
User Interface: Just , I'm sure there's a {gap} .
Marketing: Okay we'll say two point four two . Right ? How does that look ?
Industrial Designer: I'm impressed . I can't do that without a calculator . {vocalsound}
User Interface: No I can't do long {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound} It's been a while .
User Interface: very impressive .
Project Manager: And what what is the acceptable criteria ? Is there like a scale that we have to hit ?
Marketing: Oh no . They just told me to
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} pick my own criteria and have you guys evaluate it {vocalsound} basically .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright then .
Marketing: So that's that .
Project Manager: Okay . Well , let's see .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Now we get to do the budget numbers . You didn't know that you were gonna have a budget . But we do . Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah so . You'd been going a long time dividing that . It's two point four two eight five se it just keeps going on .
Marketing: Oh my god .
User Interface: Two point four two basically .
Marketing: Okay . Yeah we'll go with that .
Project Manager: So I have here an {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Fifty percent , you're kidding .
Marketing: Not too shabby .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} P
Project Manager: We want a fifty percent profit on this . Oh you can't really see that very well .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Charge about three hundred quid for it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Twelve and a half Euros is what supposed to cost us . Okay , so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It's too much .
Project Manager: Well let's see .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: The f the {disfmarker} Wonder if I can make this {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: What the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Oh it won't let me do that . Okay . Alright so at top , I don't know if you guys can read that or not . I can't 'cause I don't have my glasses on ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: but so we've got the energy source . There's uh four , five , six categories .
Industrial Designer: Battery .
Project Manager: We have energy source , electronics , case . Then we have case material supplements , interface type , and then button supplements . Okay so {disfmarker} Uh first of all energy source , we picked battery . Um and how many batteries do we think this will probably take ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Probably some e either two or four .
Industrial Designer: Two .
Project Manager: Two ? {vocalsound} Like it . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: At four it's gonna be too heavy , so that that's not our problem . People can change it every month .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Excellent .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} They won't know until after they bought it .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: This is consumerism .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Alright so for the electronics our choices are simpl simple chip-on-print , regular chip-on-print , advanced chip-on-print , sample sensor , sample speaker .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
User Interface: We're advanced chip are we ?
Industrial Designer: That's the advanced chip-on-print , yeah .
Project Manager: 'Kay , {gap} we have one of those . 'Kay then the case is a {disfmarker} Probably it's double curved .
Industrial Designer: Double curved , yes .
Project Manager: Case materials are
Industrial Designer: Plastic .
Project Manager: plastic . Um I guess it's two , since one for the top , one for the bottom .
Industrial Designer: N no .
Project Manager: Is that right or is it just one ?
Industrial Designer: No that's just one .
Project Manager: Maybe it's one because of the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It's just one mo single mould , we can do that .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: Yeah {gap} yeah .
Marketing: Right . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I guess it doesn't matter 'cause the price on that one is zero , which is nice .
Industrial Designer: Exactly , right .
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: Special colour ?
Industrial Designer: That's not a special colour . It's a specially ugly colour , but it's not special .
Marketing: Bright yellow .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Interface type . We have pushbutton , scroll-wheel interface , integrated scroll-wheel pushbutton , and an L_C_D_ display .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: S
Industrial Designer: S {vocalsound}
User Interface: That's {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: So we actually have the L_C_D_ display
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: And then {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and then is it the integrated or is it {disfmarker}
User Interface: I'd say the integrated .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes unfortunately .
Project Manager: 'Kay . Button supplement ? Special colour ?
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Um special form ? Special material .
Industrial Designer: We could of course make the buttons wood .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Say mahogany or so
Marketing: {vocalsound} It'd look really lovely .
Project Manager: Or titanium .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm or titanium .
Project Manager: They cost us all the same .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: {gap} remote control {gap} .
Project Manager: Well we only have one button so really we shouldn't be charged ,
Industrial Designer: Uh just {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} we shouldn't be charged anything for the the button supplements .
User Interface: No that's getting a bit tiny .
Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I'd ignore that .
Marketing: Leave it blank .
Project Manager: Okay . We're gonna leave that one blank because we run on a L_C_D_ and scroll . So our total is fifteen point five . Which I believe is
Industrial Designer: Yeah that's too much .
Project Manager: by three Euros over .
Industrial Designer: It's hard to believe . So we'll go for the hand dynamo huh ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So the only thing better than um a banana-shaped remote is one that you shake .
User Interface: If it w What if we completely took out the the one single button we've got on .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: And just had a scroll wheel interface . And the L_C_D_ display . I suppose the L_C_D_ C_ display's the one that's pushing it up a bit though .
Project Manager: Yeah 'cause the {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well 'cause we have to have both right ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I mean let's let's face it , it also depends on the software on the on the television .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: You can have the the information that this thing transmits be being displayed on the on the screen .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: So s yeah let's take away the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah you could maybe take out the L_C_D_ dis display even ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: if it if it comes up on the computer itsel on the T_V_ itself .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: So we may not need the L_C_D_ display ?
User Interface: Uh that is possible yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right . We may not need it . There you go .
Project Manager: Well there we go .
Industrial Designer: Perfect .
Project Manager: Twelve point five .
User Interface: There we go .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Perfect .
Project Manager: Okay . So we just remove our {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Screen .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: screen here .
User Interface: Make it a bigger dial .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Easier to use . Even easier to use then .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay , the {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Besides look at what the L_C_D_ does to our lovely remote .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Back to the design room boys .
Industrial Designer: So we can just take away a heck of a lot of the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: there you go . {gap} central ?
Marketing: What's the blue part ?
User Interface: That was just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Oh that's just {disfmarker}
User Interface: we ran out of yellow . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh that's the batteries .
Industrial Designer: yeah .
Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: There you go
User Interface: There you go .
Industrial Designer: . Oops .
User Interface: Even simpler .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Looks more like a banana .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: There you go .
User Interface: For all those fruit lovers out there .
Industrial Designer: One more criteria .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay so the costs under twelve point five Euro . Was no . We redesigned it . Now it's yes .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Next slide . Project evaluation . Uh project process , satisfaction with , for example , room for creativity , leadership , teamwork , means , new ideas found . Um {disfmarker} So {disfmarker} I guess that {disfmarker} Let's see here . I think that perhaps the project evaluation's just supposed to be completed by me . But I'd like to hear your thoughts .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Fair enough . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Trying to fill in some time there . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh h what did you think of our project process ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Great . {vocalsound}
User Interface: I think we did {disfmarker} yeah I think we did quite well . Um {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Good .
Marketing: Good teamwork {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Just half a day , you have a remote . There you go .
User Interface: Yeah . Right from the start of the day .
Project Manager: Yeah I think {disfmarker}
User Interface: We sort of knew where we were going straight away I thought .
Project Manager: {gap} we st we started off a little little weak . Our leadership was quite weak in the beginning .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But as the day went along we had more idea of what we were doing . Um room for creativity ? There was that . Um I think we tried a lotta different things and um I think it was um interesting as you guys brought up more um information and studies that we were right on with a lot of those things . Um you guys worked together well as a team . And um the means ? Which was the whiteboard and the pens .
User Interface: Yeah . We've used the whiteboard .
Industrial Designer: Super super .
Project Manager: I had some problem with the pen I think , but {vocalsound} minus your p
Marketing: Minus your PowerPoint fiasco .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well that's not my fault . That's obviously the people I work for uh that work for me ,
Marketing: No I know . I'm {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Marketing: yeah . Incom {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: uh they've just you know {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Have a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Heads are gonna roll , believe me .
Project Manager: we have a list of employees that you would like fired .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes yes .
Project Manager: Okay . N new ideas found ? Um {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm . Kinda .
Project Manager: Yes for the remote . Maybe no not f for
User Interface: Technology used .
Project Manager: technology . Alright . Closing . Costs are within the budget . Project is evaluated . Um complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary . That's it .
User Interface: Excellent .
Project Manager: And I still have to do my minutes for the last meeting . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Actually . Um so there will probably be another questionnaire coming up . And then we'll have to check with the main boss whether we can , what goes on after that .
Marketing: We might have a while though .
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Project Manager: But that's the end of our meeting .


Project Manager: Mm-hmm ? Okay . Ooh .
User Interface: {gap}
Industrial Designer: So we're 'kay ? On the {gap} or {disfmarker} No . I dunno where to put it 'cause the {disfmarker} Okay . Could you s take it off ? {gap} .
Marketing: Is that alright ? {vocalsound} {gap} or {disfmarker} Okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: Keeps coming off . 'S fiddly .
Project Manager: Hmm . {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Right .
Project Manager: How do we sta wa how do we start ? Does anybody know ?
Marketing: Oh , another one .
Project Manager: So that's this {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh okay , right .
Industrial Designer: Are we free to take notes uh {disfmarker} Okay .
Project Manager: Uh {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound} {gap} . Hmm . Okay , just hang on a second everybody . I haven't actually looked at this yet .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Ah .
Project Manager: {gap} um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Very nice .
Project Manager: I haven't looked at it , but let's just start it off and we'll see what happens . If you're all ready .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So {gap} is the agenda ? Opening , acquaintance , tool training and project plan , discussion and then closing . Project aim is a new remote control . It's original , uh trendy and it's user-friendly .
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: Project method , functional design , individual work , another meeting , conceptual design , individual work , and a meeting of details design , individual work and a meeting . Tool training . Try out the whiteboard , every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum up their favourite characteristics of that animal .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Um . Uh Miss Industrial Designer , would you like to go first ?
Industrial Designer: Okay . So are we supposed to bring the little things for the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , why don't you just c , I think just clip on {disfmarker} clip
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {disfmarker} do you have a belt ?
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Clip {gap} .
Project Manager: Or put 'em in your pocket , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} {gap} okay . So my favourite animal {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , what's your favourite animal ?
Industrial Designer: 'Kay um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Ah .
Project Manager: Is it rude ?
Marketing: It's an elephant . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's a very good elephant .
User Interface: The back end of an elephant .
Marketing: Oh my gosh , I'm never gonna be able to draw that well . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: 'Kay , and you want to write up on there , it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal .
Industrial Designer: Um {vocalsound} okay , it's big , it's got a great memory .
Marketing: Does it ? Oh .
Industrial Designer: Supposed to have a great memory , we say an elephant never forgets .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: And uh dunno know why but {vocalsound} looks like nice to me .
Project Manager: Okay . Wonderful , well done .
Industrial Designer: Nice animal .
Project Manager: Do you want to use the wipe {disfmarker} the m the wiper and wipe it off ?
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna go next ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} Aesthetic yep , sure .
Marketing: I have no idea what my favourite animal is .
User Interface: 'Kay , my favourite animal ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: uh let's see .
Marketing: Oh .
User Interface: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before .
Marketing: It's {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's a liger {vocalsound} ,
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: A what ?
User Interface: a combination of a lion and tiger {vocalsound} .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Have you not seen Napoleon Dynamite ?
Marketing: How {gap} .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: Oh it's a hilarious movie .
Marketing: No .
User Interface: You have to see it . And and it's best characteristic is it's pretty much the awesomest animal . But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , well done .
Marketing: Great . Me ?
Project Manager: Yeah . Miss mar Miss Marketing ?
Marketing: Okay . Not quite sure how this is gonna work .
User Interface: There {gap} go .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Cool . {vocalsound} Uh {vocalsound} well I'll try my best {vocalsound} to draw . Can I just draw the face ?
Project Manager: Um yeah , I think you can just draw the face , but then you'll have to describe in writing how the rest of it looks . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ooh . It's a cat .
Project Manager: That's a very pr pretty cat .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Which also has what ? A big fat body and big {disfmarker} and a long tail .
Project Manager: Okay , do y do you wanna do some {disfmarker} write {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Why ?
Project Manager: you wanna just write some words about it ?
Marketing: Because um cuddly . And usually cats are very friendly . Usually . And they're healing as well . They heal . And they can feel when a human's got problems so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Wow , so they're kinda spiritual .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So , that's why I like cats .
Project Manager: Well done .
Marketing: There we are , that's me . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Um , I don't actually have a favourite animal ,
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: but for the for th for this meeting I'll s draw a little {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Uh . I honestly can't draw for toffee . Uh .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Really ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh that's a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} no
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: A prairie dog ?
Project Manager: {gap} no {vocalsound} uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh a squirrel ?
Project Manager: That's exactly what it is .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh not a very good one {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Not bad I would say .
User Interface: Yeah , that's pretty good .
Project Manager: Okay , well , you got it's a s It's a squirrel , and I like them , because they're cute and stupid .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Very good .
Marketing: Ah .
User Interface: Alright .
Project Manager: Right . Okay , so , I guess that was the test to see if this equipment is all working .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm . Let's move on to the next page . Okay , project finance , selling price twenty five Euros , profit aim fifty million Euros .
Marketing: Market range internationally sold .
Project Manager: Yeah . Production cost , ah right it's gotta be {disfmarker} can't cost any more than twelve fifty to make .
Marketing: Ah right okay .
Project Manager: {gap} experience with with remote control , so talk about who who's used what . Any ideas ? Stuff like that . Next meeting starts in thirty minutes . {vocalsound} At quarter to twelve . {vocalsound}
User Interface: So I think before we close uh , we are expected {disfmarker} I mean the last slide wanted us to maybe discuss longer what our what our ideas where . I mean if you wanna go back to the last slide . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: S
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , I think we're {disfmarker} I mean before we close the meeting , we're supposed to come up with some ideas for {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh k so we're actually supposed to be doing this discussion like right now are we or {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: oh okay .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I thought this was just t giving us instructions for the re to do next , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , I think this is just the preliminary , get some rough ideas for what our experiences with remote controls have been and and what we would {disfmarker} roughly what we would incorporate into a new one maybe .
Project Manager: Okay . Right , who's got experiences with remote controls then ? Pretty much everybody .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , I think we've all got {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Um .
Industrial Designer: Is this a T_V_ one we are supposed to make ?
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah it's a T_V_ remote control .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: 'Kay um .
Marketing: Well . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: T
Marketing: A new remote control for T_V_ . What would I like ? {vocalsound} Um .
Project Manager: W what {disfmarker} You want it big do you want it small . Are we are we going for like like telephones are going little teeny tiny things or we are going for something that's that's big and {disfmarker}
Marketing: Medium .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah it seems like there's like {disfmarker} there's sort of a tension between two ideas , I mean , you want you want one remote that maybe can work uh all all of the functions of T_V_ and if you have whatever associated with T_V_ the D_V_D_ player , or something like that ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Video and ts hi-fi and stuff .
User Interface: but like at the same time you don't wanna really busy remote with a thousand buttons on it or something .
Project Manager: Maybe you {disfmarker} yeah
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: now th that's the other thing is it's gotta be cheap .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: 'Cause I I I mean I was thinking something that's got different like maybe a a an L_C_D_ display on it that's got different pages for different devices ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: but that would p that would probably be quite expensive .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: But how do we know how much uh , I mean , how much do we have per {disfmarker} how much ?
Marketing: Twelve fifty .
Industrial Designer: Twelve fifty . {vocalsound}
User Interface: It g can't be more than twelve fifty per unit .
Marketing: Each .
Project Manager: Per unit , yeah .
User Interface: Cost .
Industrial Designer: So do we have to be realistic within the budget or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well at the moment we could , wa I mean we {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Close pr I don't know how much it would cost . Yeah .
Marketing: Guess {disfmarker}
Project Manager: 'cause we this is what we th what we're doing at the moment is just saying what what we'd like , and then after we after we've found out what we can like , some different ideas , we can then go and do the research to find out if these {disfmarker} any of these ideas are feasible or not .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: So would be nice to have something that that controls lots of different things .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um .
Marketing: Couldn't we have like one that comes out ? {vocalsound} Like so you have one in like {disfmarker} mm
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: it doesn't have to be really thick . I mean remote controls can be thin bits . And then you have one for your D_V_D_ and you sort of slide it out , and then you have another one , you slide it out .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Kay .
Marketing: {gap} have slides . And then it all comes compact
Project Manager: Okay , that's {gap} .
Marketing: into one . So it's not {disfmarker} you actually just putting three or four different remotes together but making them thinner , and um into one basically .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Th that's an idea .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So you just flip them out .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Um {gap} have uh one very complicated one on one side with {vocalsound} all the D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ access and stuff , and then on the other side o {vocalsound} one uh a remote control that would be very very simple with just the channel , program plus and {vocalsound} minus , and the just the mute button , for example . I can real keep it really really simple on one side and the other side be very complicated .
Project Manager: One side for kids , one side for adults .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I'm not sure if that's like {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Or grandma as well , you know it's like {vocalsound} what is the mute button .
User Interface: I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have a two sided remote though , 'cause it would be very hard to use in the way that you mani manipulate it .
Industrial Designer: No , but you would slide it into uh someth like something on the back would hold {disfmarker} like you wouldn't be able to press the buttons , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh .
Project Manager: Like it {gap}
User Interface: Oh okay .
Project Manager: or something like a flip telephone , something like that maybe . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . Okay .
Marketing: That would be cool .
Project Manager: F flip it open and you've got all the buttons , or you flip it closed and you've just got the basic buttons on the outside maybe .
Marketing: I was thinking that like a flip .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um , oh we've got five minutes left .
Industrial Designer: Start breaking up .
Project Manager: But {disfmarker} okay .
Marketing: Okay . Um .
Project Manager: Well we've got a k we've got a few ideas there .
User Interface: Yeah , we should uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} .
User Interface: I guess by the end of this meeting we should have at least a a rough conception {disfmarker} you know {gap} stage one was technical functions design , what effect the apparatus should have . Okay . Um so I mean we still have time in our next meeting to come up with the actual concept for the user interface , but the the functions that we're sure that we want are that it can control the T_V_ , but also devices connected to the to the T_V_ , I mean , be able to operate
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: D_V_D_ players , things like that .
Project Manager: I have got {disfmarker} I think we should also have a back-up plan of {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} 'cause I I I just think that it might be expensive to make something that {disfmarker} I mean we don't , we haven't been told it has to be something that will control everything . We should have a back-up plan of just a really good television remote control , that just {disfmarker} that is just for a T_V_ , but it's just a really good , nice one .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay . Right .
Project Manager: What do you reckon ? See 'cause , {gap} I'm just thinking {disfmarker} bearing in mind th we've gotta {disfmarker} we have to have something that's cheap to make .
User Interface: Yeah , I mean {gap} . Yeah , that's true , maybe we should just concentrate on having a a good T_V_ remote , and have it be um
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think we'll be able to come up with ideas and stuff a lot quicker .
User Interface: have it be like ergonomic so it's comfortable to use ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: uh simple to use , and looks decent and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: May w you know , maybe even {disfmarker}
Marketing: But what'll make it what'll make it interesting for people to buy though ?
Project Manager: Or maybe even so something that's for disabled people
Marketing: I mean if it's if it's just like {disfmarker}
Project Manager: or so people that uh b don't see very well or {disfmarker} big buttons for {disfmarker} touchy buttons for {disfmarker}
User Interface: Sorta find a niche for our remote , like market it to a certain kind of p kind of people ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Or just one that looks really fucking cool .
User Interface: certain certain demographic {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Could be really light or , I dunno , something special .
User Interface: Yeah , no I think you're right . Yeah , rathe rather than focus on {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Otherwise we'll be we'll be here all day talking about {gap} do this let's do that n I think we sh I think we should {disfmarker}
User Interface: Y {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , 'cause at the end of the day if it says just T_V_ remote , doesn't say com combination with all all the r {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . I mean obviously everyone {disfmarker} we're uh you know uh sounds like we're all a bit sort of gadget heads and we like things that do everything at once , but you know , that's {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Remotes spinning out from other remotes and having little nested remotes inside . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah , that's right . Yeah . I mean I'd like one that makes tea as well , but {vocalsound} that's not gonna happen .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I think a flip up thing , 'cause you always have this problem of like if it's on this {disfmarker} well I did anyway , like we had five or six remotes and they would be lying on the c on the coach , and you'd come and sit down and {disfmarker} ooh , the telephone's {disfmarker} the television switched on or something . So maybe something that like does have a lid or closes , so you don't accidentally press a button or record button for something .
Project Manager: Okay , like a lock f like a lock functs function on it like you have on your telephones , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . But make it like really snazzy and cool {gap} people will want it . So make it {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , it's gotta be sellable . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , that's true what you were saying , I mean it doesn't have to have a flip function , it can just have a lock function , so that it's not uh not usable when you don't want it to be usable .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: And even for kids as well . It's um it's safer for them , I guess . Like they don't flick onto channels and all that sl flick onto . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} No porn channel for children .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay . Um alright ,
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: so we've got some ideas , we've got um {disfmarker}
User Interface: I guess that's good good for now .
Project Manager: Let's move on .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Oops , let's close that . Next meeting , uh okay .
Marketing: W What does I_D_V_I_D_N_M_E_ stand for ?
Project Manager: Industrial Designer um which is {disfmarker}
Marketing: Ah ri okay . {gap} these are requirement specification .
Project Manager: Um .
Industrial Designer: That's {disfmarker} Mm .
Marketing: And I'm marketing .
Project Manager: Yeah , there you go . {vocalsound} So {gap} {disfmarker} User Interface Designer , that's that's
User Interface: That's me . Okay .
Project Manager: that's you , so you gotta {gap} you go , you're you're gonna be the one that's working out what what buttons we need . Um .
User Interface: Right . Right .
Project Manager: Industrial Designer , you are the one {gap} , you know , you're gonna be working out kind of box it goes in , I guess so , um whether it's {gap} what goes into the box , somehow .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Har how it works an
Project Manager: And in marketing {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Bu
Marketing: {vocalsound} These are requirement specification .
Project Manager: User requirements specifications .
Marketing: So what the user requires
Project Manager: Yeah , what {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Do you think our two kind of overlap , because {disfmarker}
Marketing: in a remote .
Project Manager: Right , okay , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , it does seem like our our responsibilities have some overlap .
Marketing: I guess that's what it says .
Project Manager: You two {vocalsound} you two are gonna be just , I think , you just double up , you know , you {disfmarker} working together .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: You're the one that's gotta go and find out {disfmarker} do th do the research , see what people want in a remote , what buttons are used more often , and s stuff like that .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh , we've been warned to finish the meeting now . Okay . Okay everyone , well done .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Good meeting .
User Interface: Alright , see you in thirty minutes .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So {vocalsound} , do we take these off ?
Industrial Designer: I don't {disfmarker}