User Interface: Here we go again .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} My mouse is not working anymore .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} He's uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: when I put it in , is is going to beep beep beep .
Marketing: Oh , I got a nice little screen here over here .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I got like this big black border uh on every side .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Mm , okay .
Project Manager: Everybody ready ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} I'll I'll fix it .
User Interface: Yeah , it's okay .
Project Manager: Welcome at the functional design meeting , again presented by Maarten .
Marketing: Yeah , whatever .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh this is the agenda , the opening . Uh , we've got three presentations . And I'm gonna show you some of the new projects requirements that were sent to me . And we're gonna make a decision on the remote control functions . We have uh forty minutes .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Oh , well this is the {vocalsound} the closing already .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So uh {disfmarker} well we start off with the th the first presentation then . Uh , I think um in uh {disfmarker} we have to do it in uh in right order .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Maybe the {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know what the right order is . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well , it {disfmarker}
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: Huh .
Project Manager: Oh that . It won't {disfmarker} doesn't {disfmarker} Maybe we should start with the the technical functions .
Industrial Designer: Okay ,
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: how can I get this on the whiteboard ?
Project Manager: Well it's you dumped the file in the uh in the sh in the project document folder .
User Interface: In project .
Industrial Designer: Okay , I've done that .
Project Manager: You've already done that ?
User Interface: No can that open .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Well let's close this one . We'll just uh open a new one .
User Interface: Open it there .
Project Manager: Uh , well . Yes . Uh-oh . New thing . Oh yeah , uh I have to say something . Uh , due to some uh technical problems I haven't uh digitized the last uh the meeting minutes . But I'll uh make sure that uh happens next time .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound} About the get {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And I'll get this one uh in digital uh form too .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay , we're going to um uh talk about working design . Um , the method of the remote control is uh electrical energy , it activates a chip uh in the remote . It's an electrical circuit which compose uh messages in the form of uh uh infrared signals to control the television . Mm , it's a nowadays very uh known , a known uh uh technology . Um , the known technology can make a cost very low . Uh , it's a wild uh {disfmarker} a wide sale uh of uh remote controls in the world . And and the components are very uh very cheap . Um , Uh , diodes , uh bat batteries and uh uh LED lights , they're needed and they're uh everywhere available . Uh , again , it's a fair price . It's a common uh technology uh , like I told um {disfmarker} Uh , the circuit board , it's the most um important uh um part of the remote control . Uh , we can use for that uh fibreglass with copper wires , it's {disfmarker} it is uh {disfmarker} can be made as fast as printing paper . It's uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} it's all very uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , they're making it uh all the time . Uh ,
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: and it's not uh very specialised uh technology . {vocalsound} I haven't come to here , but um I've got uh some uh images of uh remote controls . They were not uh very uh trendy or just uh just a remote control like everyone knows . So I don't know uh why I should put it here . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . But it's the technical side of the remote control .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes , but uh I uh haven't made it because uh of the time .
Project Manager: Oh . Okay . Well , we'll we'll have to skip that part then .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} What ?
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: But you don't think it's a problem um to design uh the technical part of the remote control ? It's gonna be easy ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No . Yes .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: But nothing restricted for user interface ?
Project Manager: Yeah . M
User Interface: With technical {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Um , no , it's uh it's just a part of uh a known technology , yeah .
User Interface: I don't know .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: Remote control is nothing special nowadays .
Project Manager: R regardless of what type of functions we want to implement . Doesn't really matter .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
User Interface: But I kind of uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I don't think so ,
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah , {gap} okay .
Industrial Designer: because of the {disfmarker} all the televisions uh {disfmarker} there are a few {disfmarker} maybe a couple of televisions with the new functions ,
User Interface: Yes . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: but is it useful to put them on a on a standard uh remote ?
Project Manager: Well , we'll see . We'll see later on .
User Interface: Well , the technical functions . Um , well I don't know if you got the same uh pictures as I got ,
Project Manager: No .
User Interface: but uh I got these two ,
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: and I think they're {disfmarker} we have to focus uh on uh the uh one hand the expert view or the novice user . {vocalsound} th I think it's it's very much uh depending on the user requirements , I don't s uh know who's doing t
Project Manager: Well , uh will there be some uh user requirements later on ? {vocalsound} The ones I {disfmarker} I've uh received from the account manager .
User Interface: Yeah , but it {disfmarker} I think that's very important to watch uh what kind of functions there we want to uh put in a remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah . Well , we'll keep this in mind , and then discuss it later on .
User Interface: Yeah , well y we can put functions in it when uh {disfmarker} yeah , when we uh get the user requirements uh and we can update it .
Project Manager: Uh-huh . Okay , but this real this uh big d uh distinction between this type of remote . {gap} we should we should choose one uh {disfmarker} we should not compromise but uh really choose for uh expert viewer or novice v
Marketing: Yes , I agree . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah ? Well , what {disfmarker} that's what you want {disfmarker} trying to say .
User Interface: Well , yeah w if you want try a a a huge market , if you want to reach a huge market , uh like elderly people and {disfmarker} we have to choose for novice user .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
User Interface: But I don't know . It's it's really um depending on how how how far the the the remote controls are already in n um in use .
Project Manager: Yeah , well {vocalsound} some of these {disfmarker} Uh , yeah . Well , some of that will {disfmarker} Yeah , but i but it will be more clear when we come to the uh u uh some of the new requirements .
User Interface: Yeah , probably , yeah .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh well , there are l at least uh basic functions , uh like just th the channels uh one till nine , uh on and off switch , which must be clear with a red button or something like that . Um , most standard uh have volume , of course , and a mute function , and , of course , the next and previous channel . I think that's just basic what we need .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: And from that on we can {gap} user requirements what we need more . Uh {disfmarker} Yeah , I just um um I thought Joost was looking at the trendy {disfmarker} the trends in the markets , and I don't know if there uh are any um {disfmarker} uh if you put more functions , more buttons , maybe it's com becoming less trendy or something like that .
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: M you can just {vocalsound} you can k {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I haven't really found a conclusion like that .
User Interface: you can keep it in mind that .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: I don't know . Uh , I th I thought the the {disfmarker} with less buttons you can make a more trendier uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Design .
User Interface: yeah , more trendier design , I think . I think .
Marketing: Sounds interesting .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh , well , that's all I have to say , I think .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah , that was it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
Project Manager: Well , then the Marketing expert can uh tell us something about the current market .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .
User Interface: {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah . It's alright . Um {disfmarker} Alright , I've done some research for functional requirements . Um {disfmarker} yes . The working method um {vocalsound} there were hundred uh uh w h one hundred people , uh how do you say uh , f watched using remote controls in the usability lab and they also uh filled out a questionnaire uh with a few questions . Uh , I've lined them up here . Uh , ask whether um common remote control looks good or not , about willingness to spend money on remote control , about zapping behaviour , and uh and stuff like that . I uh have found some interesting things . We do we do got a market . Um , {vocalsound} three out of four people claim m uh to find remote controls ugly . So if we make a trendy design , we sure have seventy fi seventy five percent of the market , which you can reach . Um , three out of four users uh zaps a lot , as I uh quoted here from the uh results . {vocalsound} Zap buttons are used one hundred and sixty eight times per hour . That's quite a lot . Um , {vocalsound} relevant options are , of course , power buttons . Although , only used once per hour . Uh , channel selection , volume and buttons for text , and the more um , yeah , other functions , like audio settings , video settings , sound settings are not said to be very important and uh very much used . Furthermore , fifty percent says uh they only use ten percent of the buttons on a remote control . That doesn't say we got {disfmarker} we can leave ninety percent off . But it sure um says we shouldn't make it too uh complicated . Fifty percent also claims uh to have lost a remote control very often in the room . And um {vocalsound} an important thing here , the most important customers uh , which is over seventy percent of our market , is in the age range of thirty six to sixty five years old . And uh elderly people , our market , are less interested in uh nice features , but more willingly to spend more money on remote controls . So , {vocalsound} what I was thinking {disfmarker} oh , wrong side . We shouldn't implement too much features on uh on our remote control , because elderly people will get th lost . Group features for a higher usability , uh what I was claiming in the previous meeting . Um , all the settings , about audio settings , video settings and channel settings , which are not very often used , we could group them uh on one button and make them accessible uh in one menu button or whatever , because they are used very rarely and well , it uh {disfmarker} there are a lot of options there , so we can really make uh {disfmarker} yeah , how do you say , we can spare at buttons over there .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} And um , if you want to implement V_C_R_ and D_V_D_ options , group them in the button , not too uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah . Small buttons , so they won't be very um , how do you say {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Visually presents .
Marketing: Yes , won't be very present , thank you . And a trendy look , well uh , although seventy percent of the market is uh {disfmarker} consists of elderly people uh who don't really care for trendy looks or whatever , I guess it can do no harm to make it trendy for the other thirty percent . That was kind of what I found .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: Well , then we {disfmarker} I'm gonna show you some of the new project requirements and then we gonna discuss on uh what features we find important .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .
Project Manager: Uh , well some of the uh new requirements {vocalsound} make some of your findings quite uh irrelevant , I think .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Because um uh s decided to put {disfmarker} They have decide to put two additional requirements forward . Well , now I see four .
Marketing: Two ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's kinda strange . Well , they say tele teletext becomes outdated since the popularity of the internet . Well , I think that may be so , but well , we can't just leave the teletext button off .
User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's impossible , I think .
User Interface: No way .
Marketing: {vocalsound} No uh , I agree , I agree .
Project Manager: So the compromise we could make is just to make one teletext button , you know , like on and off , and don't make a lot of special {disfmarker} put a lot of special features on it to make it transparent or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Not too much , no .
Project Manager: You know , it's just you want you want to be able to make use of teletext , but not to play with it that much .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So we have to think of that . The remote control should only be used for television . Otherwise , the project becomes more complex , which endangers the time t t ma uh the time to market . So maybe we should leave all D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ related features off completely .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: I don't know . I think that uh that's what they're trying to say .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh , our current customers are within the age group of forty plus . New products should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty . So you uh talked about the elderly who were willing to spend more on a remote control and who were interested .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: But , well , they're not relevant because we are aiming at a younger {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I don't really agree actually , to be honest . It's a very small market which we will approach then if we uh want to reach customers younger than forty . It's only like thirty percent of the total market .
Project Manager: Yeah , but it is {disfmarker} it's is a dif it's a fact that the th th that bigger market you're talking about , we already cover that .
Marketing: Mayb yeah ?
Project Manager: Our company already sells remote control to the older people , but we we also want , {vocalsound} you know , a new customer group . That's the one we haven't covered yet . So I think that's what the problem is . We haven't got remote controls for uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: Well I think , yeah .
Marketing: Maybe maybe we can compromise a little bit .
Project Manager: Yeah , I think so . Maybe if it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Not too much then , bu alright .
Project Manager: no no , but I think we have to just keep in mind what the older age group wants . So maybe we can make a remote control that's primarily interesting for the younger group , but isn't that bad for an older person either .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Uh , our corporate image sh should stay recognisable in our products . Our product's corporate colour and slogan must be implemented in the new design . Okay , {vocalsound} something else nice to know .
User Interface: But what's our slogan ?
Project Manager: Sorry ? Yeah , {vocalsound} you will have to look that up . {vocalsound}
User Interface: The slogan uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , I'll have a look .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think it's something about the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Puts fashion in electronics . {vocalsound}
Marketing: We put the fashion in electronics .
Project Manager: Oh , okay . {vocalsound} I thought it w might be , let's make things better or something , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Sense simplicity . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Sense and simplicity . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay well , {vocalsound} let's go back to the the agenda . So we've now had to {disfmarker} the three presentations . We know about the new project requirements . That means we can uh well d yeah , discuss on the remote control functions . Well , if I can uh make a start , I think it's becoming more clear what kind of remote control it's gonna be , and I already talked about the {disfmarker} maybe you have a f familiar with the rem remote control that has the the can opener underneath it . I think we're we're looking for some {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , we we're looking for a really simple remote control with only basic T_V_ functions . Y well , that {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Well , to be honest , if um our uh aim group is uh till forty , not older than forty , maybe that's not very uh {disfmarker} yeah , we don't really need to have a simple remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: I think we can implement more functions then , because um {vocalsound} basically uh the younger people are more able to adapt to new technology
User Interface: Yeah , but wha
Project Manager: Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: and therefore will be a more {disfmarker}
Project Manager: M yeah , that's why um well a lot of um the use the requirements the the account manager sent me , I think they are are c are contradicting each other ,
User Interface: But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: because they want a simpler design , and no uh other uh s functions than just T_V_ , but they s do aim at a younger {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well , ma
User Interface: Yeah , but you sai you said that that a lot of functions aren't used .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So why should j we put this function in ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well , I think {disfmarker}
User Interface: I think more {disfmarker} I think uh people {disfmarker} younger people are more looking for just a trendy look than uh more functions .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But I think uh you {disfmarker} we can make some discuss uh distinctions in uh what kin in the , know , th th in functions you have {disfmarker} Y Well you have different kind of uh equipment in your room , like a t T_V_ and a D_V_D_ player .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: You can uh , know , you {gap} you can {vocalsound} make very d you can put very detailed functions regarding the T_V_ set on your remote control uh with the with uh the , you know , audio settings and uh v uh screen settings . We don't want that . I think that was {disfmarker} that became clear . We don't want . But w maybe we should put some func uh , I know that the younger people will most likely have a D_V_D_ player they want to , you know , they want to uh
Marketing: Yeah , control .
User Interface: Yeah , but uh you said {disfmarker}
Project Manager: control , remotely .
User Interface: Yeah , d yeah , but th the functions are not in the remote control we're making .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No , yeah , th th the user requirements of the the {disfmarker} The new project requirements told us not to {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's n Yeah .
Project Manager: But maybe w Yeah . I think we maybe should {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , well we should uh put some functions for other {disfmarker} maybe for other equipment on it . But just the basic functions . Maybe like rewind and wind ,
Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: or n what d what do you guys think ?
Industrial Designer: But you can put them under the same button .
Marketing: Not much more than that .
Project Manager: Yeah , if {disfmarker} as far as possible .
Marketing: Yep . Or we can u u we could put 'em behind the flip-flap or whatever .
Project Manager: But what do you think ?
Marketing: So t
Project Manager: Do th should we implement features that uh uh or functions that {disfmarker} to control other devices ?
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: No , you don't think so ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: No , new requirements say no .
Project Manager: Yeah , the new requirements say so .
User Interface: So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But you can put a play and stop and and rewind .
Project Manager: Well , maybe it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: maybe there there there is something th m most of the time these functions don't support the particular device as well as their their own remote control .
User Interface: Yeah , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You know , a lot of D_V_D_ players have some tricky settings with {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , but we {disfmarker}
User Interface: I i if it's too simple uh th they won't use the remote control , they use their own th th {vocalsound} with lot more functions .
Marketing: Y yes .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yep , exactly . That's that's wha
Marketing: But but for for example , V_C_R_ , that's better example in this case . I think on a remote control for television you don't need to be able to programme uh the V_C_R_ to start recording at three P_M_ or whatever ,
Project Manager: No no , you don't {vocalsound} {disfmarker} No no , you don't need it . No , no .
User Interface: No , no . Exactly .
Industrial Designer: Huh .
Marketing: just play , stop , rewind and uh fast forward .
Project Manager: Okay , but we have to think uh {disfmarker} w we have to think D_V_D_ I th uh , I guess ,
Marketing: Yeah , I know , but uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: so um but uh from my experience it's kinda {vocalsound} a lot of D_V_D_ players , you know , like forwarding , goes differently . Uh , you get two speed or eight speed or sixteen speed . It's c sometimes a bit difficult .
User Interface: Mm , yeah .
Project Manager: Maybe if we just leave the D_V_D_ functional m uh {disfmarker} Well , I was thinking about putting it in , but concerning the project requirements and what you just said , I think we m should focus on the T_V_ then .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .
User Interface: Yeah , but just {disfmarker} {vocalsound} keep it simple and look more at th
Project Manager: And uh and it's just an uh a complimentary remote and not a universal one . If you want to keep it simple , you can make a universal remote .
User Interface: No . It's only for television . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay . It's just a s it it should be something that is like a gadget on your coffee table ,
Industrial Designer: Yes , but there are there are {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and it's just for when you you you jump on the couch , you pick up the the the nice remote , the simple one , just to put on the television , nothing more .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , nothing more . Exactly .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: Um , but what televis
Industrial Designer: But how wi how will you be able to handle a whole market ? There are uh a dozen of uh {disfmarker} dozens of of remote controls that have {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , we we'll make w this one trendy .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And simple .
User Interface: {vocalsound} The user interface is easy .
Project Manager: Well , we we will come to that , but ju first on the on the functions . So we should put uh zap buttons on it . Um , also numbers , to uh to go to the specific channels .
User Interface: And the basic {disfmarker} yeah , basic functions , yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes , definitely , yeah .
Project Manager: Uh ,
User Interface: It's too much integrated in the other .
Project Manager: Okay , a t a teletext button should be there . But just one big teletext button , on and off .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Probably .
Marketing: Yeah , and maybe two or three other options , but not {disfmarker} nothing more than that . I think stop function is very useful . If you have a uh a page which consists of more pages , and you are not a very quick reader ,
Project Manager: Oh , okay .
Marketing: then I think it's very irritating if the next page shows up , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but uh I think that becomes too difficult , it's not a very common function and people will have to read up on their remote then .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well , I use it very regularly , the action . I re I use it {vocalsound} quite often .
Project Manager: Yeah , yeah , but maybe you s yeah yeah , maybe y you do , but I've never heard of it in the first place . And
User Interface: Will you look {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: we have to {disfmarker} well t yeah , and t and teletext is becoming outdated .
User Interface: Look at the market .
Project Manager: We just want to see what programmes are on and what time it is probably . Yeah . I don't know . I think that that's kin getting too complex for our remote .
User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I don't know what you th guys think .
Marketing: Might be . Might be .
User Interface: Yeah , I {disfmarker} uh , it's {gap} {disfmarker} {gap} Sunday I always use it for the uh yeah , for the soccer uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but do you like to have a {disfmarker} such a s stop button ? Or do you think it uh {disfmarker} I think it's a kind of uh uh very rare and special function .
User Interface: Well , uh when you uh uh {disfmarker} when you look uh {disfmarker} for example um , a couple of weeks ago I looked at the {disfmarker} for the flights , and there are a lot of flights in one page , so if if th
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay , it goes {disfmarker} Yeah , but that's kind of stuff we should do on the internet right now . That's why {vocalsound} it was uh said in the in the use in the r new requirements .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but you could put
User Interface: Yeah , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: on the z on the zap buttons you can put it to uh to uh access all the same pages .
Project Manager: Well yeah uh ,
Industrial Designer: If you have seven pages , you can go up and down .
Project Manager: lots of new televisions can store pages , you know , and then you can just skip manually through them using {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: I think we should just put one teletext button on it .
User Interface: True .
Project Manager: Then we meet uh the new requirements . we also meet the other thin y you sh you just re we have to choose for the the simple design , I guess .
User Interface: A simple {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Um , well , what functions do we have to decide on ? Or do we {disfmarker} uh I dunno if we have t stif specifically name all the functions we n we want . We have the zap and uh the volume . Should we do m make them very big ? The the the zap button . D d
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: I think the plus and the minus button should be uh quite present ,
Project Manager: Th that's that's that's considered to be trendy also .
User Interface: But trendy , yeah .
Marketing: yep .
Project Manager: Or maybe you should place them on a {disfmarker} uh , in a special way ?
User Interface: I don't know .
Industrial Designer: Maybe we can make uh a kind of a joystick .
Project Manager: Yeah , something or uh {vocalsound} somethin special way to to zap through the {disfmarker} it has to {vocalsound} s it has to be {vocalsound} {disfmarker} yeah , and quick . You have to use it very quickly .
User Interface: Original . It was uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yep .
User Interface: True .
Marketing: {vocalsound} If you grab the remote , your hands should be on top of the plus .
Project Manager: Yeah , and it {disfmarker} the buttons should make it um possible to to zap through your channels in a rapid {disfmarker} at a rapid pace .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Oh , what should we decide on then ? I think in a in a case of this simple remote control , the technical aspects which uh weren't worked out already , but it w shouldn't be a problem then .
Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No , it's o just signals uh {disfmarker} and the television d uh does the rest .
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: Maybe uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No , okay , but we don't have to {disfmarker} uh , when we don't want to uh control other devices , I think it makes it even more simple .
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: Uh maybe we {disfmarker} uh uh the batteries maybe . If you use large batteries or small batter batteries .
Project Manager: I think
Industrial Designer: The most standard batteries .
Project Manager: I think that we should use uh d
User Interface: Yeah ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: I think double A_ .
Project Manager: yeah , not not uh the b the watch kind
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker} th the most uh {disfmarker} Well , it has to be simple , and I wi
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: The most ordinary uh batteries .
Project Manager: Which are most likely to be found somewhere in the house , you know .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: Oh . How much time do we ha we have left uh ? M m m more than thirty minutes ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} I think about twenty minutes .
Project Manager: Uh ten twenty minutes . {vocalsound} Well , uh these these shouldn't {disfmarker}
User Interface: Early break .
Industrial Designer: But i in a way we have to be uh uh special .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , okay . But that's that's {disfmarker} Do you uh have you have you think about tha thought about that ? How we can {disfmarker} what the extra touch can be . Do you suggest design or the shape or some gadget f f kind of feature or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Maybe th m
Project Manager: Well , it was something about how we lose them . Maybe it should be a remote control when you you clap you hands it makes some noise or some gadget kind of thing .
Marketing: {vocalsound} I think that's n that's more for a for an age range or uh {vocalsound} ten to twelve or whatever . {vocalsound}
User Interface: To find him . That's maybe {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound} I don't know . I don't know .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Nah , um a lot of people like to have such kind kind of kind of gay kind of things . It w it w should be like a birthday present or something that you give someone , and it is i {gap} has something nice .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , that's good one , yep .
Project Manager: Or maybe it w should have a big uh light that can flash or something on it ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: or maybe it should {vocalsound} {disfmarker} or an {disfmarker} or the like the the can opener . Maybe it contains some feature that you don't normally link to a remote control . I think it's very impor because we're gonna make such a basic remote control , we have to do something to make it special .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: It's gonna cost twenty five Euros .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Ye I think the can opener i is a brilliant idea actually , because television and beer is not a rare combination . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , but the {disfmarker} well , it's already been done .
User Interface: Yeah , but that's {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Nah . {vocalsound} Yeah , that's true . But {disfmarker} and I think it's gonna be uh very uh {disfmarker} it has to be sturdy or something , so maybe with with bouncing pads so that you can just throw it on the floor or something .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: {gap} it has to be used something special ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: and you really {disfmarker} {vocalsound} it has to ,
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: you know y not s people , when they buy it , they have to think , well this one lasts for a long time . We're really gonna use them . Not some thing you you throw away next week , you know .
Marketing: No , that's true .
Project Manager: So maybe uh that's i I think that's {vocalsound} when uh when we decide on these type of functions , know , basic functions , uh it's very important to find something like this . So there's a very important task for you . And maybe we can all think about it .
User Interface: Be original , yeah .
Project Manager: Uh , also for you maybe , when t you {disfmarker} it's very nice when you can be entra when you can be trendy , and and uh and al as in a friend {disfmarker} use friendly as well , you know .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . And use friendly , yeah .
Project Manager: So big buttons , flashy design , and maybe some kind of gadget kind of thing .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
User Interface: Must brain-storm .
Marketing: Yeah , a swapable front or whatever .
Project Manager: Yeah , or just different colours would be uh {disfmarker} I don't know if people also wanna spend more money on fronts for their uh remote control .
User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: For the remote control . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It could be be {disfmarker} Yeah , you never know , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Why not ?
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: More money for us .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But it {disfmarker} and I think we have to make it quite big .
User Interface: Yeah . Quite big . Yeah , you think ?
Project Manager: Yeah ,
Marketing: Yes , definitely , definitely .
Project Manager: {gap} people {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That's to be uh a formed for your hand .
Project Manager: So , and and also because uh it is expensive . If you want it to be something , you know , it's ha doesn't have much functions {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: want to be {disfmarker} you don't want to get it l make it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes , it {disfmarker} it it should be f {vocalsound} be visible nearly anywhere in the room . As I uh as I said during my presentation , fifty percent uh o
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . And shou and should ni look nice when you put it on a table . I I think you m might wanna put it uh {vocalsound}
User Interface: A standard or something .
Project Manager: {disfmarker} yeah , that it it it it stands up . Yeah , you have to put it on its {disfmarker} So it's like a vase or uh something you put on a table .
Marketing: Yeah . A face ?
Project Manager: {gap} no no , {gap} put stuff inside it . But , it's like like a statue or something {gap} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Or uh yeah , yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: More like a joystick then .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , I see what you mean , yep .
User Interface: It's like you have uh four phones . Something like that .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah , but {disfmarker} yeah , but you also can put it somewhere near the window in {disfmarker}
Marketing: If you do that , but I don't know if that's possible within the production cost of twelve and a half Euros .
Project Manager: That it's it's fashionable .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} I {gap} I don't {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I in in the base we could like make uh a button , and if you push it , the remote control itself s makes noise .
Project Manager: Oh , yeah .
Marketing: That's probably stupid , but uh as I found here uh , fifty percent , was it fifty ?
Industrial Designer: But that's that's fun for the first time , and then the second {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh fifty percent fifty percent often loses remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah , but but when you {disfmarker} {vocalsound} when it gets lost , how can you press the button to make it {disfmarker}
Marketing: No uh , of the base the the the the the the the thing you put it in .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh , okay .
User Interface: On the television .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh , that's kind of nice .
User Interface: Oh , like this .
Marketing: If an {disfmarker} a button in in that uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And then also you don't even need batteries , because you can make it uh chargeable . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Or you can {disfmarker}
User Interface: A char {vocalsound} chargeable . Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , you can ma make rechargeable one , yeah . Why not .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , that w yeah , but {disfmarker} yeah , the pro No , well I think that it might be t p Well , nee but we don't {disfmarker} Yeah .
User Interface: Why not .
Project Manager: Maybe you , but {vocalsound} we don't know much about production cost , but when you {disfmarker} you can imagine that when you spend twenty five Euros on a remote control and it's a basic remote control , then the then the money {disfmarker} there must be money to spend on that kind of st you know , {gap} rechargeable units .
Industrial Designer: With recharger .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: It should only cost twelve and a half Euros , of course . Aye ?
Project Manager: Yeah , but we would d ma we'd do it in Taiwan and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} So , it's not gonna be that expen
User Interface: Production . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , okay . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh I I think it's a great idea .
User Interface: It should be possible . I think it's a good idea .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: S some kind of be I've never seen that before , and you make it uh um be uh , you see it with uh the mo the mouses nowadays .
User Interface: To make a base or something ?
Marketing: Yes . Yes , definitely . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but is that handy ?
Project Manager: Well , I {disfmarker} well it's really ch you can recharge it , so you ha never have the battery problem . That's one {gap} .
User Interface: It's it's it's it's
Project Manager: And uh you can always find your remote control up {disfmarker}
User Interface: it's not the purpose to be handy , it's
Industrial Designer: But but remote controls remote controls nowadays can can last uh two years , three years , with with t two batteries .
Project Manager: Uh , okay . Well , maybe yeah , you could {disfmarker} when that's {disfmarker} when it's too costly , you could probably skip the recharger ,
Industrial Designer: And then you {disfmarker}
Project Manager: but you will {disfmarker} you do need uh also an {disfmarker} uh , also you would need a battery in the the base unit as well , you know . Does it makes it kinda {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes . Or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well y you you could connect that to two hundred to twenty volts , of course .
User Interface: Mm . Yeah , but that's not {disfmarker} it's ugly , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah , yeah . Okay . Yeah .
Marketing: I don't know .
Project Manager: Yeah , but then it's very easy to make it also a rechargeab I don't think that is gonna cost much to make it also a recharge function in it .
User Interface: No .
Marketing: On the other hand , if you don't do it , we can also make a nice bay . I mean , it looks trendy and still {vocalsound} still put a bleep function in it ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: but um I think the bay is definitely uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I think it's a good idea . And make it , you know , we we um {disfmarker} Well , we uh {disfmarker} it's {disfmarker} it isn't a t a most uh costly uh remote control . We can save on the on the functions . We just {vocalsound} put some simple button in , make it big and sturdy , nothing more , and just make s sure there's some noise that it can make , or probably some kind of cheap light thing around it or that it uh that it lights up ,
Marketing: Sure , why not . Yep .
Project Manager: it's also nice . And if you put it away , I think it's uh w we have to {disfmarker} we uh {disfmarker} that's uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: it's not a easy market .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: We have to something special . And for twenty five Euros people want something remote c special from your mote control ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: True .
Project Manager: and we can't deliver that in r with uh regards to the functions ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Definitely .
Project Manager: because we aren't gonna put {disfmarker}
Marketing: With eye candy , ear candy , whatever . Yeah , definitely .
Project Manager: Yeah . And then uh when make it , you know , nice looking shape and this {gap} {disfmarker} and then you also you got the stand-up thing . Yeah . I think I think it's a good idea . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , it must be must be a gadget to have .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Definitely , yeah .
Project Manager: Oh , if it {disfmarker} let's {disfmarker} well , we will see what's possible concerning the the costs , and if it's possible we'll do that . And we even try to save up on other stuff to make sure we can do such a thing .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And the first thing we {disfmarker} the most likeable thing to to n to skip is then probably the recharge function or something . If that's too expensive , we won't do that .
User Interface: Yeah , we c
Project Manager: But it would be nice .
Marketing: {vocalsound} It would be nice , yes .
Project Manager: It's the idea . I know that batteries last long nowadays . And and what people just think about , well , I'll never have to buy any r batteries again , so y b because it's very annoying when your battery is empty . And you know then when you haven't batteries around , and probably for two weeks , your remo {gap} {disfmarker} I've experienced that that {disfmarker}
Marketing: Most televisions break down before the battery pack is empty , so {vocalsound} yes .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay . So , easy functions . Well , we will we will {disfmarker} I think we'll work that out , zapping , numbers on it , bi
User Interface: Or just give a beep when the battery's out or uh down .
Project Manager: Yeah . But it's also annoying .
Marketing: Yeah , why not .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} 'cause as long as it stays {disfmarker} as it ke keeps working , you're not very motivated to do something about it .
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: Yeah . {gap} true .
Project Manager: Then it beeps all the time and {gap} .
Marketing: No , that's true .
Project Manager: You don't want to have {disfmarker} ever have those problems , and you won't have if if you have the rechargeable {gap} . And you don't have to use the unit , you can also put it on the side if people don't like it . Uh , i i in the in the ma
Marketing: Why not .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But you pay for it .
Project Manager: Yeah , but it w I mean , if if they pay for it because they think , oh , that's a great idea , I'm gonna use it . And when it , you know , when time goes by and they think , well , I'll never put him in the recharger , I think last long enough , then they put it on side and they can use it now and then . Then when they look {disfmarker} get m I I I know for sure that everybody who buys this remote control , within a couple of months of {disfmarker} they will be in the situation that they they're seeking for the remote control , they wanna see something quick and uh just push the button and th uh ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I think it's brilliant .
Marketing: Bleep bleep bleep , oh there it is , yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , I've never {disfmarker} it's so simple , but I've never seen it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: M maybe we should really {vocalsound} do this .
User Interface: And you can leave it just there .
Marketing: No . Nearly .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound} Okay now , well , how much time have we got left ? These clocks aren't uh synched .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh , now I've put uh {disfmarker} well , {gap} it is twenty p
User Interface: Yeah , I'll {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , so we have ten minutes or something ?
Marketing: Something like that , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , but we're uh we're done . I think .
User Interface: Uh fifteen minutes .
Project Manager: We've decided on the functions . Well , there is some {disfmarker} oh . There is a closing sheet . We have lunch break , and then we have thirty minutes of individual work .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: Oh {vocalsound} okay , I'll make sure {disfmarker} I'll {disfmarker} I had some problems with uh the digitising the the first minutes , the the s the next minutes won't be a problem , but I'll try to make sure the first one will be in the folder too , but maybe it won't work , but you'll see . I think these are more important than the first ones , so {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} We'll see .
User Interface: Can you make an uh uh a part of f folder for the minutes maybe ?
Project Manager: {gap} .
User Interface: That not not everything in one one uh folder .
Marketing: Maarten , five minutes .
Project Manager: Oh , five minutes . Yeah , because uh I I d I did uh {disfmarker} the first minutes I did were were were a bit scratchy , you know . Then I did a s second one with a nicer layout , which I could uh , know , use for the other ones {gap} well , but uh I d think uh I forgot to do {disfmarker} put done under the first one , and when you go write a second uh it's get {disfmarker} it's not working {vocalsound} when you try to write second uh paper or something .
User Interface: Yeah . Maybe .
Marketing: No , that's true uh , yeah .
Project Manager: And then you {disfmarker} {gap} {disfmarker} you had to overwrite it or someth I don't know . Becau I d uh , it was not my uh pen .
Marketing: Should we by the way draw um
Project Manager: {gap} this kind of looks you like .
Marketing: on our nice whiteboard , um a little uh idea of {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Of the shape .
Marketing: yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , probably , it would be nice .
User Interface: Or the sh
Marketing: I dunno . Has anyone got um {vocalsound} a little bit detailed ideas about the shape ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} Do you get an idea of the shape ?
Marketing: I don't , for one .
Industrial Designer: Maybe like this pen .
Marketing: A bit bigger I guess , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No , bigger .
User Interface: A little bit bigger , yeah but {disfmarker}
Marketing: The shape is nice , it's um something different , and we want we want that .
Industrial Designer: It has to feel nice in your hand .
Project Manager: Well , I I {vocalsound} I have to say , I have this uh can opening remote control in my head most of all ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: or I think some {disfmarker} maybe we should {disfmarker} no , that will be too costly .
User Interface: Oh , uh look {disfmarker} uh look at the pictures .
Project Manager: We shou we could also , that was a {disfmarker} would also be an idea , but I don't think it {disfmarker} I don't know if it exists already , you should like make Alessi or something design it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay , yeah .
Project Manager: That would also be nice . But that's gonna {disfmarker} then you c then you don't
Marketing: Yeah , but {vocalsound} twelve and a half Euros ? Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , but then you don't have t yeah it {disfmarker} that's not something i that's in the production cost {disfmarker} {gap} a one {disfmarker} it's a one time , you know {disfmarker} s was {disfmarker} it's a single cost .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , m but but then you can {disfmarker} nah , I don't thin I think that it would be more expensive , because I've bought the Alessi stuff more often and even small pencil holders or something are more expensive .
Marketing: Yeah , that's true .
Project Manager: Would be a nice idea though . I don't know . I think it uh has to be a r {gap} it has to have round forms or something . Like something like that or so or so
Marketing: Something like that is very ergonomic .
Project Manager: And on th and then uh s a base unit underneath it . It's also round .
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Put it in there uh {gap} wire on it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Maybe uh , I don't know , some some lights , a big but well . {gap}
User Interface: Yeah , flash lights at the side . At the side , or something like that .
Project Manager: Volume and programme , yeah .
Marketing: Yes , volume and programme should be there I guess , because you hands wi uh y your hands will be in the smaller part .
Project Manager: And some of the extra funct Some of the extra functions over here . Numbers .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , and the numbers on top , I guess .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: And and lights ? How we're g well , maybe uh s a ring of {disfmarker} no , no , you have to {gap} {disfmarker} Maybe on the side of it .
Marketing: Maybe ro roun rounds
User Interface: Yeah , side of it .
Marketing: uh uh l sorry .
Project Manager: Along the side uh strip of {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Just two LEDs or something on the side . Yeah .
Marketing: Maybe lights also around the volume and the p the plus minus programme buttons . {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but I also meant the the blinking li w you know , the ones that also blink when you try to uh uh locate your remote .
Marketing: Oh . Okay .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Well , theys have to be {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , uh probably at the side . You know look at the front , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , yeah . Exactly . When you you see it from the side , then it would look just {gap} like that . And then you have a strip of uh lights or something
User Interface: Yeah , exactly , and then there is {disfmarker} yeah . Yeah , something like that , yeah .
Marketing: Okay , yeah .
Project Manager: Well , uh I think it's nice , for one thing . {gap} maybe put something on top of it {vocalsound} or , you know , like that's {disfmarker} looks funny .
User Interface: {vocalsound} No . {vocalsound} No .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I don't know . Or some bump .
Marketing: I think I think that'll be too big tha too big then .
Project Manager: Maybe some {disfmarker} Yeah ?
User Interface: Bumper or something .
Project Manager: We'll have to think about it . I think we're we're done .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes , we are .
Project Manager: We can save this one .
User Interface: Lunch break .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright . Yes , I guess it's lunch time .
User Interface: Okay then .
Project Manager: Mm mm . {gap}
User Interface: {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I don't know .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Marketing: Half and hour ?
User Interface: Okay , five {gap} uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I thought our next uh next individual round was half an hour .
Project Manager: Yeah , that was what uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know about the lunch break .
Project Manager: Mm , we'll hear about it .
Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh {gap} . {gap} . {vocalsound}


Project Manager: Right , so start of the first meeting .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh . Right , so agenda of the first meeting . Where we uh {disfmarker} We have twenty five minutes for this meeting .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: We uh are to get acquainted . So does everyone want to say who they are ? {gap} that seem sensible ?
Marketing: Yeah . I'm Robin . I'm the Marketing Manager .
User Interface: I'm Louisa . I'm the User Interface Designer .
Industrial Designer: I'm Nick . I am the Industrial Designer .
Project Manager: And I'm Alastair and I'm the project leader . {vocalsound} Alright okay , so tool training . Um . {vocalsound} Project plan . So does anyone have any uh thoughts as to the tool training that uh is required ?
Industrial Designer: Tool training
User Interface: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by tool training .
Project Manager: Neither am I {gap} .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh I see , so we shouldn't really be {disfmarker} Oh right okay , so . So we have the project team , which is to um {vocalsound} basically to come up with a new r remote control device .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: Uh we have uh {disfmarker} the starting base was the original {vocalsound} which has been in existence now for a period of time . And uh our idea is to uh to make the new remote control device uh more user friendly than the previous one , and to {vocalsound} to be trendier , to be with it , and therefore to uh to get a bigger market share and bigger audience .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: So um {vocalsound} method of doing this is uh split up as you can see into uh {vocalsound} the functional design , the conceptional design , and the detailed design . So um {vocalsound} in each of these uh phases we'll uh basically be handing over to yourselves , the designers of this uh this device .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: And uh having uh meetings so that we can uh during the course of the day um come up with a better better inst implement than we had before . And therefore um have a successful uh conclusion to the day . Um and you'll be doing uh various designs uh throughout the day to meet this end .
Marketing: Mm-hmm , okay .
Project Manager: So we've got tool training . Try out whiteboard . Uh . {vocalsound} So we will um .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Right so everyone's to uh supposedly uh draw their favourite animal over on the white board over there . I guess this is uh make sure the whiteboard works . So uh I don't know who wishes to go first .
Industrial Designer: Okay {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Do you wish to go f Have a first bash at uh whatever .
User Interface: I don't mind . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I dunno . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um .
Project Manager: Ah uh . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Let's see .
Marketing: {gap}
User Interface: Good job I got pockets today .
Project Manager: But now you you uh you'll move out from the microphone and the camera .
Marketing: Your microphone's just {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I take it that {disfmarker}
User Interface: Are we supposed to do this right now , do you think , or ?
Project Manager: I would {vocalsound} I would guess so . Or {gap} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . I don't know .
Industrial Designer: You've lost uh your microphone there .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Technical problems .
User Interface: Oh . Right here we go .
Project Manager: I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things .
Industrial Designer: {gap} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay . I think that I would have to say that my favourite animal is the cat . Little smiley cat there . Um and this would be because they're very independent , uh they're very intelligent , compared to dogs maybe .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um {vocalsound} and they can be very very affectionate . Some people don't think so but I know very affectionate cats . Um . Um and they can look after themselves .
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Next . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Okay , yeah . I'll I'll {disfmarker}
User Interface: Shall I rub that out , actually ?
Project Manager: I don't see as there's any need to . There's plenty of space .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: I mean whatever . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: We can have have a whole menagerie . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Exactly .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything . Okay .
Project Manager: We've had more time to prepare over this side ,
Industrial Designer: There's one .
Project Manager: so we've all stuck our bits and pieces in our pockets . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Didn't think of that .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: 'Kay uh
Project Manager: The three pens are underneath .
Industrial Designer: pens are over here . I'll try the red pen . Okay . Um . {vocalsound} I'm gonna go for the bear which I'm {gap} be able to draw very well ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You get marks for artistic impression . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but I'll have a bash at it .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ooh ooh {gap} I lost it there . I think I've just knocked the microphone . {vocalsound} Um .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So you're just doing the face . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear {gap} .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um {vocalsound} and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Great . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right . Hello . Um I'm gonna go for the dog , and I'm gonna draw one badly as well . Uh . {gap} looks like it's going to be a dachshund or something .
User Interface: That's quite good . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Right . There's my dog . Um {vocalsound} I like dogs because they're very loyal . And they're always happy , so whenever whenever you're feeling sort of a bit a bit down or tired , they're always coming up and they're always um quite excited . So um you can always have a lot of fun with a dog . And they're also good for exercise as well . You can sorta get out and they they sorta never get tired . And and when they're tired they're quite cute as well , so . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay , that's why I like dogs .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Right , um . {vocalsound} Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh {gap} I'm not too keen on them anyway . Not to worry . So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw . Uh {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {gap}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Anyway um . {vocalsound} And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever , you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you . Whereas if you got fish , you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months , and buy in a few plants , so . Other than the fact that they keep dying ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: uh fish are uh {vocalsound} are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Great .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Right . Okay , uh if we're still all with us . Right okay , so . Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price . That information has come from our marketing manager here . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: So we're looking to sell internationally , not just in Europe . We're looking at um having our production costs limited to uh twelve and an half Euro per unit . And therefore making a profit margin of uh {disfmarker} well not actually a profit margin it's uh {disfmarker} because obviously you're gonna have overheads and various other costs to uh take uh from uh from that to give you your profit margin per unit . And so depending what the uh the overhead uh costs are will determine uh how many units we're uh looking to sell or projecting to sell at this point in time .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: So um {disfmarker} Experience with remote control , first ideas . New remote . So I guess we're looking at um having a discussion at this point in time to help uh you um folks design our our new model as it were .
Industrial Designer: Yes . {gap}
Project Manager: So uh any any thoughts ?
Industrial Designer: Um I {gap} with some remote controls the buttons were a little small so they're quite hard to press so maybe we make something with uh easy to press buttons . As that is the main function .
Project Manager: Okay , so so basically we're looking for some um {disfmarker} we're looking for a device that is um robust and and therefore uh won't get damaged too easily .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Um we're looking for a device that is uh {disfmarker} What was the other things you said there ?
Industrial Designer: Um sort of easy to use so the buttons are accessible .
Project Manager: Easy to use . Use .
Industrial Designer: {gap} is easy to use and see .
Project Manager: And see .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Okay . Uh .
User Interface: Can I just check ? {vocalsound} Is this just a television remote ? Because a lot of um systems are kind of T_V_ video combined now , or T_V_ D_V_D_ combined .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: And one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house . So if you've got a combined system , it could be a combined remote .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
User Interface: Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing ?
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Oh I w um basically I'll get back to you on that .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: But it seems to me sensible ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: 'cause {disfmarker} as you rightly said , there's nothing more annoying than having three or four devices littered about the uh about the room .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So a device for for all remotes .
Industrial Designer: {gap} Sorry , you go . You go .
Marketing: I've Okay . Yeah . Um one of the things um we found from the market research is that people often get confused by the number of buttons on them as well . 'Cause there's quite often lots and lots . And um sometimes uh they sort of {disfmarker} remote controls defeat their own purpose because you're sat in the chair and the remote is somewhere else in the room . So {disfmarker} whereas in the past you'd have to get up to change the channel , now you have to get up to sort of pick up the remote . So so I don't we need to sort of maybe think about how um we could maybe uh develop a remote control which moves around the room .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Comes to your whistle . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Hmm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's that's maybe something for the future when you can talk to your television , but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But is it {disfmarker} in a sense it's r um mutually exclusive . You can't have both the th the one device and then have few buttons on it to {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: 'cause you want you want simplicity as well , you want any idiot to be able to use it . Whilst at the same time you want , as you rightly said , one remote for all .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: And so these are probably mutually exclusive options
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: that uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Hmm you could argue that experience of using devices and similar devices as people get more and more used to using remotes , therefore they're more {gap} with handling them ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on .
Industrial Designer: Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote . Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself , or sort of the instructions that would come with it ?
Project Manager: {gap} Better instructions .
Marketing: Yeah . I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are , and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So it's possible that we could devise a system where where you're you're basically sort of holding a a miniature computer which is controlling all your your sort of your television , your stereo , and where {disfmarker} you know if you buy a new thing then it sort of {disfmarker} you can link it to that as well , maybe .
Project Manager: Okay . Um well we've got five minutes before the end of the meeting . So uh we have to uh start winding up . Um is there {disfmarker} Next meeting in thirty minutes .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: So um {disfmarker} Right , so we've got I_D_ the {disfmarker} Come on , where's my {disfmarker}
Marketing: If you just click return it should be okay . It'll get rid of the message .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Or not . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: If you hit just hit return and it should get rid of the message .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh there we go .
Marketing: Oh you've got {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's what I was looking for . Right . So we've got function {disfmarker} Oh what happened to the {disfmarker}
User Interface: I think that might be back to the start . Um if you grab the kind of uh slide to the left and pull it down ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {gap} slide four {gap}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Right . Right . {vocalsound} Sorry about that .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , so we've got um the working design for I_D_ . For U_I_D_ the technical functions design . Marketing , the user requirement specification . Specific instructions will be sent to you by your person by your personal coach . So . Are we all clear what objectives we're looking to meet in the next thirty minutes ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And I guess I'll try and write up some minutes of uh this meeting to uh to give it to you for the next meeting .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay , yes .
User Interface: I'm not exactly clear on what we're designing the rem remote for .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it ?
Industrial Designer: I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control ,
Project Manager: Television remote control .
Industrial Designer: so maybe we should just stick to that unless we get told otherwise .
User Interface: Right .
Project Manager: That's true , 'cause during during the course of our day we might make decisions based on information or meetings that would change {vocalsound} where we're going .
Marketing: Okay cool .
Project Manager: But at this point in time I think you're right that uh {disfmarker} shall we make it just a T_V_ . Okay ? So we will depart .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay
Project Manager: {vocalsound} We will stay here and uh and break off . And I'll do minutes and and we'll see you in half and hour .
Industrial Designer: Okay , that's great .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Okay cheers .
Project Manager: Okay . Right s