Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'm proud of it . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay . This is our final meeting , the detailed design meeting . And again I'll take minutes . The {disfmarker} what we have to get through in this meeting is firstly the prototype presentation from you two , so you can show us what you've been working on so diligently .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: It does look very cool .
Project Manager: Um then
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} then Cat's going to present the evaluation criteria that we're going to be evaluating this against .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Then I need to say some st a few things about finance , 'cause we have to check that it's within the finance criteria . Um and then we'll be making sure that our product fits both the evaluation criteria from Cat and the financial limits . Um and then we uh will have a brief evaluation of the whole process of production and design that we've been through . So we've got forty minutes . S
Marketing: And then do we get to make a remote control ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Cause we missed out .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: So
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: it's now {disfmarker} I guess that we're supposed to start at fifteen thirty five , so we've got until four fifteen .
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh . How how much do we have , forty minutes ?
Project Manager: Is that right ?
User Interface: Yeah , about four fifteen , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: until about four fifteen . So yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay , so .
Project Manager: Go for it . Do you want {disfmarker}
User Interface: So , you said um {disfmarker} are are we starting with the the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Presentation .
User Interface: so will you maybe start with like the mm the shape and things and and then I will explain the the user interface th uh things , like the buttons and the scrolling things and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound} Okay . So um basically going with our trend of vegetables and {vocalsound} {disfmarker} we selected the colour and approximate shape of banana .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} You think bananas are a safe thing to use ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: It's a bit um phallic .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Well , but it's it's just an a approximation . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Dual use , perfect .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Dual use , perfect .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh , {vocalsound} {gap} your remote control ? Oh that's just bad . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Does it vibrate when you press the buttons ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um so basically it's the it's the flip open thing again .
Project Manager: Sorry , sorry .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: So now we we have the {disfmarker} okay ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so Ma Maarika will explain you the user interface there . And it flips open on the side , so it opens like that . And we have the user interface o in here
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Wow .
Industrial Designer: and uh {vocalsound} the the L_C_D_ and and the scroll are inside . Um well , everything else is probably user interface , so . Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: And it's {disfmarker} the whole thing's made of rubber , is that {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh yeah . Yeah , it has , yeah .
User Interface: Rubber .
Marketing: Is it to scale , or do you think you can make it a bit smaller ?
User Interface: Yeah , {gap} . Um it could be made a bit smaller , and and of course it would be {gap} and {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} yeah , but um one thing we actually kind of um forgot while designing , that one side was supposed to be rounder ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
User Interface: so we said the back side round , yeah .
Industrial Designer: well , but i since it's made of rubber anyway . I I think it's it's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: It l does look like the {gap} curvy
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and then the whole shape's curvy , so I would say that this curvy does look quite like a vegetable .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Hmm .
User Interface: Yeah . And it's spongy as well . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I wasn't very keen on that , but yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: So {vocalsound} so uh the user interface as as we discussed last time uh mm on on the {vocalsound} on the cover we just have the very basic things .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Huh . Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So we have that n uh channels here starting from um uh one two three {disfmarker} there would be numbers in in the {disfmarker} on the actual one .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So it's four , up to four , up to seven , up to nine and zero , z zero here .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Six seven eight nine . I like that .
User Interface: Yeah . And then , well this is on off button . It's it's quite standard mm place for it and and also the colour is quite often red , so it's it's kind of user friendly .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: And then these ones would be for flipping the channels back and {disfmarker} like the previous one and the next one .
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
User Interface: And and we would also have a l little um thing saying here , previous and ne prevon prevon next .
Marketing: So where's the volume ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: The volume is is scrolling .
Industrial Designer: It's on the side .
User Interface: On the side ,
Marketing: Ah , you did get that in then ,
User Interface: this one . Yeah you just do it like this .
Marketing: mm-hmm .
User Interface: And and and it's it's on the back is mm cover or back lid , because if you flip it open , you can still do the scrolling here .
Marketing: Oh okay , {gap} .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: See ? So the volume is {vocalsound} you just scroll , but then once you flip it open , {vocalsound} okay , there there you have the screen
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: and and you have the mm {vocalsound} spinning wheel with options to choose .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: You can move back and forth and then if you need to m choose something on the screen , you just push the cen mm the middle button .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Cool . Oh , the thing we forgot was like a mute button .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh no , we we'd not put {gap} {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: A mute button .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so on on the cover we have the the bare essentials .
User Interface: Well , {gap} we'll have this on the screen , on the display .
Project Manager: Y or you could have it {disfmarker} so you {disfmarker} on the wheel if you {disfmarker}
Marketing: On the wheel , like if you hold the wheel down then it will mute .
Industrial Designer: Uh on the L_C_D_ we r you know , the main menu will have various options .
User Interface: Well , but the but the mute {disfmarker} yeah , the scrolling is kind of you have to scroll all the way to make it mute , right ?
Project Manager: But if you hold it in ,
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah , but it's a scroll and click , isn't it ?
Project Manager: if it's a scroll and click so you hold it in ?
Marketing: Okay , cool .
User Interface: Okay , yeah , okay .
Marketing: So that {gap} that solves the whole mute issue .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound} And okay , so i so the the voice recognition is also just part of it .
Project Manager: {gap} no .
User Interface: You can't really see it in the interface .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , it's hidden in there somewhere .
User Interface: Yeah . And we do have the logo on it as well .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm , very good .
User Interface: So I think it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound} with the the black and yellow you're even in the right colours .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Cool .
User Interface: Yeah , I think um we could do l the logo in grey , as it is on the website .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We ran out of resources here , so . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: In the actual one .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: You can have a look . {vocalsound}
User Interface: So if you have questions .
Project Manager: Very good , let's have a look .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Test it out . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh it's a sort of intermediate colour , I guess .
Marketing: Yeah , oh , we hold the remote .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh , but it it does feel all cold and slimy .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I hate Play-Do , it's just minging .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: But yeah , uh that's cool , cool .
Project Manager: Very good .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Okay , so maybe if we go on to evaluation cri criteria
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: and then we'll there {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , see the budget .
Project Manager: I suspect we're gonna have a couple of minor finance issues , but um we'll se I'm sure we can get around them somehow .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We'll just send all of our manufacturing to some nice poor country
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and cut some of the prices that way .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Wales . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Wales , for example . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm . Cool , okay . Right , okay . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Fabulous ,
Project Manager: Marketing Expert .
Marketing: yeah . Okay , cool . So what we're gonna do is prefer {disfmarker} prepare the evaluation of the new design . {vocalsound} Um so we're gonna be using a seven point scale ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: so one is , you know , yes , it totally meets with that requirement and seven is , no , it really doesn't , we need to go back and start again . Um , you know . Basically , what I did was I went through all the like user requirements and things that we've done and we've worked on and like made a list of them . Um you know , so that we can evaluate each one and like {disfmarker} so it was about going back to the start and saying oh yeah , we did manage to do that , or oh no , we really forgot about that .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Okay ?
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Cool , so these are what they are . Oh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So for each of these we need to give it a one to seven . Is that right ?
Marketing: Yes , I did have A_ , B_ , C_ , and D_ down here , but it seems to have turned into like just bullet points .
Project Manager: Mm dots , never mind .
Marketing: Okay . But if you can imagine that they say A_ , B_ , C_ , and D_ , then that would be really good .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I guess we'll give it maximum points in everything . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , the yeah , it's definitely attractive . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , I agree .
User Interface: Oh , the locatable thing we actually forgot .
Marketing: Well , I thought we'd um kinda said that you'd have a little thing to stick on the T_V_ ?
Project Manager: Yeah , just prepare one now .
User Interface: Yeah . Shall I just prepare it now ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: It will be red , too .
Marketing: Cool . Okay . So , be attractive to look at . That's this one . What do you all say ?
Industrial Designer: So ?
Project Manager: I reckon it {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} S seven was th the maximum , yeah ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: I I go for seven .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes .
Marketing: Oh {vocalsound} we're all so proud of the {gap} .
Project Manager: Seven , yeah , it's terribly sexy . Yeah .
Marketing: Okay , so that'll be a seven for A_ .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Could {disfmarker} oh no , you can't whilst that's up there . Okay um uh what I've done on the next page is I've set it up so we just put the marks in .
Project Manager: Ah , okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Excellent . Except we can't {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But we can we can {disfmarker}
Marketing: But that's alright .
Project Manager: uh we can if we {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I can I can take note uh uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: If you take a note of them , and then I'll put them in in a minute .
Project Manager: then yeah , I'll take a note , it's fine .
Marketing: Okay , so {vocalsound} we're all agreeing on seven for A_ ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Cool , okay . Does it match the operating behaviour of the user ?
Industrial Designer: Um the the only thing that we were considering was that uh this thing is kind of more for right-handed people than for left-handed people ,
Project Manager: I think it does .
User Interface: I would think yes , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . I mean {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: so if you're left-handed you're kind of left uh scrolling with your finger .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Project Manager: Alright .
User Interface: so y so we we might do we might want to do like a uh another m {vocalsound} model another another version , which is like exactly the mirror image of this one .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: But that's gonna be a problem ,
Industrial Designer: But then {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: 'cause you don't always have all left-handers or all right-handers in a family .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So bu it's it's not a huge problem ,
Marketing: I th I think it's not {vocalsound} it's not like it's a pen .
Industrial Designer: because i i it is operatable .
User Interface: But then then I think left-handed people are already used to discrimination anyway ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: so they just {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , but I mean because it's not like it's a pen , you know , left-handed people can't normally write right-handed ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: but they can normally do most things right-handed ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: so I would say it's not such a big issue .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah , because I mean anyway , right-handed people would be able to scroll with it ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: I mean you can you can use your finger to to scroll rather than your thumb .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: so i if the majority are right-handed , it's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Marketing: So I mean that does kind of negate the whole R_S_I_ issue .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: So maybe we need to put {disfmarker} that needs a little bit of investigation , maybe give it a five , I would say ?
Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: What do you what do you all think ?
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Six .
User Interface: Or maybe six , because it's just one one i one among the issues ,
Project Manager: Yeah , I think I think for um {disfmarker}
User Interface: I mean . Yeah .
Project Manager: I mean most people are right-handed , so in {vocalsound} in terms of our greatest target group , I think it's pretty good , but we might want to flag it for management , they want {disfmarker} might want to um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: One more thing is that i
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: It might be a little clumsy when when it opens up , right ,
Project Manager: They {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: so it opens on the side . So {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: No , yeah , but mm but we have it {vocalsound} nicely {vocalsound} with the hinges here {gap} yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah yeah yeah , I mean {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So it won't be a problem ,
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So you guys can decide wh whether {disfmarker}
User Interface: it will be {disfmarker} and it will be {disfmarker} it won't be heavy .
Industrial Designer: Oops .
Marketing: I th I think the alternative is flipping from the top .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we {disfmarker} which makes it kind of really big , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah well yeah ,
Project Manager: The length is gonna be difficu
User Interface: but it's it's a bit long . It's a little bit long .
Marketing: Yeah um {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , I mean it can be opened like this of course and yeah .
Marketing: But you were thinking about making it smaller , yeah ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh this this kind of uh makes it more {gap}
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Because {disfmarker}
User Interface: S uh slightly smaller .
Industrial Designer: and two , it might interfere with the I_R_ channel .
Marketing: So you have to keep that side flat .
User Interface: Yeah , but if we flip it open only as much as that .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: So it works like a mobile phone flipping , but y you know , as long as that side's flat , than that will work .
Industrial Designer: Right . Okay .
Marketing: Okay . Um {vocalsound} okay , so C_ . Are are we admitting defeat on C_ or are we saying we're gonna stick a locator on the T_V_ ?
Industrial Designer: No , we have a locator .
Project Manager: No , we're gonna put it like {disfmarker} we've got th there's the locator dot .
Marketing: There's a locator . Cool , so that means you need a {disfmarker} that does mean you need a little speaker on it though ,
User Interface: Mm that you stick on T_V_ .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: doesn't it ? To make it beep .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Or a buzzer .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah well w but l but the speak sample speaker is included , so it it has some capacity to mm to do some {disfmarker} to make some sounds , so {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So that's two , so that's seven , yeah . It's locatable ?
User Interface: Yep .
Marketing: Fabulous . D_ .
Industrial Designer: Intuitive , completely intuitive . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . If {vocalsound} uh uh if this means intuitive , if it means the way people kind of are used to finding things
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: and it's {disfmarker} I th I think it's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I'd say six , 'cause the {disfmarker} I mean the the standard layout for numbers is three three three and one , rather than the way you've got it . I really like the way you have it ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: but it's not the immediate thing that you're used to .
Industrial Designer: Intuitive .
Marketing: Yeah , and I mean d
Industrial Designer: And uh even the scroll , it's a it's a new technology
Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: so m m might be a little more difficult for people to get used to in the beginni
Project Manager: Might be {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: so it is kind of not very intuitive but uh it's a good technology , I mean once they get used to it .
Project Manager: But it {disfmarker} and it's something that they will be experiencing in a lot of different places soon .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: So , should we maybe say f a five
Industrial Designer: So l
Marketing: and say it is intuitive ,
Project Manager: Five ?
Marketing: but it's different , so , do you know , I mean it's obvious how to use it ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: but you might have to think about it first . So we give that one a five , you think ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay . I'm gonna give a seven in everything , so . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: I'm happy with five ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I'm glad you're accepting this . It has taken a little while , hasn't it ? Um intuitive but {disfmarker} Sorry , it's really hard to write on those .
Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I just went a bit mad , didn't I ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um okay , cool , E_ , okay . Um I would guess this comes back from this whole B_ thing links in here , so possibly for left-handed . Investigate .
Project Manager: Yep . But otherwise it's superb .
Marketing: So , should we give it a six ?
Project Manager: Six .
Marketing: Six ?
User Interface: Um uh the ergonom ergonomic design {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: well mm I mean I d uh I dunno , I mean the the repetitive stress things ,
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
User Interface: but then who would be really pushing the buttons so much on the on the remote control anyway ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , unless you are a all the time sitting .
User Interface: yeah ? See .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , so it's kinda {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I I think it is ergonomic .
Marketing: I used to send fifty texts a day , you know ,
Project Manager: Well we've banned them from {disfmarker}
Marketing: and I never got repetitive strain injury from that ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .
Marketing: so I find it quite hard to believe to be honest .
Industrial Designer: And moreover it it has um {vocalsound} L_C_D_ and everything ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so that uh you know uh we minimise the pressing of the buttons anyway .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , it's varied .
Marketing: Okay , so we give that a six ,
Project Manager: Yeah . Six ?
Marketing: yeah . Okay , F_ .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , {gap} {disfmarker} it does have {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Absolutely .
Project Manager: Voice control have seven .
Marketing: Hang on , how come it's showing up with the things there but it only had bullet points there ? That's just {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Ah , that's the second one . So you must have changed it on this one where it's got score , but not on the previous slide .
Marketing: Oh okay , cool . Um {vocalsound} right , so {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: So it has voice control .
Marketing: Yes , so that's a seven then .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Marketing: Um , cool .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: G_ technologically innovative .
Industrial Designer: Anyway it ha yeah ,
User Interface: Technologi {gap} well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: it's the most sophisticated remote that I ever seen . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} But in terms of the actual technology , none of it is actually new .
User Interface: Yeah . Well mm we have we have the sample speaker as well , which is {disfmarker} yeah , it's kind of new .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , but I mean you don't {disfmarker}
Project Manager: All of the components have been used in other things before .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but they've been brought together in a remote .
User Interface: But at the same time they are all they are all relatively new .
Marketing: They're never been used i they've never been using remote remote control before I don't think .
Project Manager: But do {disfmarker} yeah , yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: {gap} .
Project Manager: What do you reckon , five , six ?
Marketing: Yeah , what do you all think ?
User Interface: Six .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Six ?
User Interface: I mean how how far can you go with a remote control , really ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Well , that's it , I mean {disfmarker}
User Interface: It still has to do what i what it has to do .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , but I mean everything has been used in space before it gets to anyone else really , hasn't it ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So , I don't think many peop
Project Manager: Space remote .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's it , they can take it with them .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Put fashion in electronics .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Absolutely . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , isn't it fashionable ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: The carrot banana remote . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , sure .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's the maximum fashion .
Marketing: So , we give it seven , and we write {disfmarker}
User Interface: Fruit fruit and vegetables are fashionable these days , so .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: There we go .
Industrial Designer: I think that's a {gap} .
User Interface: So I think we've done very well , but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Cool .
Project Manager: Very good .
User Interface: {vocalsound} What's the assessment ?
Marketing: So , we need the average here , so we got {disfmarker}
User Interface: The average is about six and something .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , one .
User Interface: A little bit over six .
Marketing: Seven {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} There are how many sixes ?
Project Manager: Or a seven {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: One , two , three .
Marketing: So we've got four sevens ,
User Interface: No , wait , a little bit under six .
Marketing: so that's twenty eight ,
Industrial Designer: Three .
User Interface: No , wait .
Marketing: three sixes ,
Industrial Designer: And one five .
Marketing: eighteen .
User Interface: Oh , three sixes , okay , yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Fifty one , one , two , three , four , five , six , seven , eight .
Industrial Designer: Okay , twenty eight , thirty eight , fo forty six . Forty six and five , fifty one .
Project Manager: Six point point {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Fifty one divided by {disfmarker}
User Interface: Six point something , yeah .
Marketing: Two three four {disfmarker} Seven eight .
Project Manager: about six point five .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Six point five , yeah .
Project Manager: Close enough .
Marketing: Okay , that's pretty good , I think . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Now wait until we {vocalsound} get to finance and then we'll see if we can afford it .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's all you've got at the moment , or did you have anything more ?
Marketing: Um no , that's it ,
Project Manager: That's it ?
Marketing: yeah .
Project Manager: Alright . So , finance . And we'll see if we can unscrew this first .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Cool , there we go .
Project Manager: Sorry , this is {disfmarker} I'm just um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} . There we go and there are the marks .
Project Manager: Beautiful .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Not anymore .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Computer no signal ?
Industrial Designer: Mm I guess it'll have to wait for a bit .
Project Manager: Adjusting . There we go . Okay , so we've looked at the prototype presentation and the evaluation criteria . And now we have to calculate the production costs . So I've got an Excel spreadsheet to help us do that . Can you read that ? Almost .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: More or less . Um I started filling it in , but of course these are provisional , so we have to go down . No hand dynamo , right ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: One simple battery .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: No kinetic energy , no solar . The chip , we're going for an advanced chip on print .
Industrial Designer: Advanced , yeah .
Project Manager: We also said the sample sensor and sample speaker .
User Interface: Yep .
Project Manager: Um single-curved surface , so that we can fold it .
User Interface: Yeah , yes .
Project Manager: Case material we said rubber .
User Interface: Rubber .
Industrial Designer: Yep .
Project Manager: I don't know what special colour means .
Industrial Designer: Mm anything uh I think which is not more {gap} .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I think something coloured , yeah , probably . So I think this is probably special co no ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: It could be {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , but rubber comes coloured , doesn't it ? You know .
Project Manager: Rub rubber comes coloured ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: it's {disfmarker} I would {disfmarker} {vocalsound} maybe it's like if you want titanium coloured or wood coloured , it's different .
User Interface: Or maybe maybe if you want some kind of pattern thing on it ,
Project Manager: Yeah , let's leave it as zero , 'cause it's easy . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {gap} yeah yeah , okay .
Marketing: Yeah ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: you might end up having to take off the sample sensor .
Project Manager: We we're definitely going to have to {disfmarker}
User Interface: We have pushbuttons ,
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: so we've got pushbutton , and then we've
User Interface: scro we have scroll wheel as well .
Project Manager: Scroll wheel with pushbutton we had , no ?
Industrial Designer: No uh we we have uh yeah .
User Interface: S yeah , yeah , we had , for muting , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: And we have L_C_ display
Project Manager: And button supplements .
User Interface: and {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm no .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} . No .
Industrial Designer: We don't have {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No . No ?
Industrial Designer: we're not using any of that .
User Interface: Yeah , but what do we ha we have L_C_ display , but but the wh but the s spinning wheel {disfmarker}
Project Manager: But the the spinning wheel's not there . I have {disfmarker} think {disfmarker} maybe it's integrated with the L_C_ display ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: We've got more than one pushbutton though ,
User Interface: Okay , let's {gap} yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: haven't we ?
Project Manager: I think the pushbutton {disfmarker} oh .
Marketing: 'Cause then you have {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I don't know if that's one {disfmarker}
Marketing: That means you can only have twenty five push buttons in total doesn't it ? Not counting anything , we'd still be in budget .
Project Manager: Yeah . That seems unlikely .
Industrial Designer: Huh ?
Project Manager: Push what uh
Industrial Designer: Wh wh what is the limit ? Uh .
Marketing: Twelve point five .
Project Manager: whether whether pushbutton means that p count by button or do we {disfmarker}
User Interface: We have to count all of them , or {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm I don't think so , no .
Project Manager: I don't think that makes sense .
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: No it says what what is the kind of interface ,
Marketing: Well it doesn't , but it uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: if it is pushbutton then you got a zero point five , it's a scroll wheel {disfmarker} so we we've put it's pushbutton and scroll wheel and L_C_D_ display ,
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: And L_C_ display .
Industrial Designer: so that's that's the three kind of interfaces that we have .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah . So , as we can see , that's way too expensive down here .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wh wh what's our criteria ?
Marketing: This sample sensor {gap} .
Project Manager: Our budget's twelve point five .
Industrial Designer: Uh okay .
Marketing: Yeah , the sample sensor will have to go , 'cause that's the most expensive thing on there .
Project Manager: Yeah , so that has implications though for the {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Uh it does not have for voice recognition , but it does have for the feedback speaker . {gap} when you say {disfmarker} when you press one it says one or it says hello .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: For the locator .
Marketing: But that's a bit of a gimmick anyway really , isn't it ?
Industrial Designer: Mm {vocalsound} and the locator also goes away .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: We can afford to get rid of it .
User Interface: But it was very no innovative
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: So that means no locator , does it ?
User Interface: {gap} innovativeness {gap} . Well um {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: I mean does {disfmarker}
Project Manager: What else does it need ?
User Interface: Well the speaker uh the sample speaker is is expensive , but we could just have some some very very easy device that just beeps .
Project Manager: Yeah , 'cause the sample speaker was , I think , more complicated then just a beeping thing .
User Interface: This would be {disfmarker} Yeah , yeah yeah {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: there you record your samples your speech samples and {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay , so we {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: A also i in the case I'm not sure that you will evaluate this as a curved surface , because it's just rubber , so it's probably a flat surface rubber . Uh I mean uh um {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
Marketing: Okay , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Right , so we need one fifty off .
Marketing: See , I was gonna say the scroll wheel pushbutton thing , 'cause {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Take it down to just a scroll wheel . {vocalsound} We could do {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: So tha that {vocalsound} mean that we cannot press {disfmarker} how do we how do we make a selection in uh in the L_C_D_ ?
User Interface: Yeah , then then we would be in the b budget .
Industrial Designer: If {vocalsound} in the L_C_D_ we can scroll , right ? But how do we make a selection if we d cannot push the button .
User Interface: Yeah b no no , you can push this one , but we don't have a pushbutton uh we ca we don't have this muting mechanism for this scrolling thing .
Marketing: But that's {disfmarker} well you would just have to to spin it down {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah . You can have to scroll it straight r roll it straight down for for mute .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: No w w w but ha
Marketing: So that's point three .
Industrial Designer: it's it's the scroll wheel and I thought we were referring to this as a scroll spinning wheel and pushbutton thing .
User Interface: But I mean {vocalsound} we can put an additional mute button on the top as well .
Marketing: Yeah ,
User Interface: If you {disfmarker}
Marketing: I mean that wouldn't actually cost any more . That's the spin wheel though , isn't it ? Didn't that come with the L_C_ {disfmarker}
Project Manager: That's with the L_C_
Industrial Designer: That comes with the L_C_D_ ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: We decided , 'cause it's not on our list .
Industrial Designer: Oh so so the the this is {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: The scroll wheel is on the side .
Industrial Designer: {gap} . So {vocalsound} we're adding costs for {gap} right , okay uh I mean I think this is good .
Marketing: S so we're point three over .
User Interface: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: We're point three over at the moment .
Marketing: Unless we just take off the scroll wheel altogether
Project Manager: It's nothing n
Marketing: and just have pushbuttons for the volume . Could b still put them on the side . But yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah ,
Marketing: I mean the scroll wheel's pretty cool , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I have {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Instead of scrolling here we have two buttons here , up {disfmarker} for up and down .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: On the side .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Mm uh it sounds good actually , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay , yeah .
Project Manager: Rather than having three different things that people have to do .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: There we go . Oh look , we're way under budget and we'll make huge profits and we'll all get bonuses .
Marketing: Yeah , well we could admit to the single curve {gap} , couldn't we ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Or or that we have to have some sort of special colour .
Marketing: Yeah , but {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So that's alright . We we'll leave it at that {gap}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: and then I'll take {disfmarker} I can send it back to management and say we weren't quite sure about the colour , if that costs extra then we've still got some space for it ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We have , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Excellent . Alright . So did we lose um on our evaluation criteria , as a result of doing that ?
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: Not really , no .
Marketing: No , I don't think so .
Industrial Designer: Because we keep all the features , we keep voice recognition , we keep L_C_D_ display .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: We {disfmarker} instead of having scrolling we we just push the buttons .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: We just got rid of a gimmick that was never {gap} anyway ,
Industrial Designer: Um yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: and the scroll wheel is I mean essentially the two buttons that was {disfmarker} it's not a great difference I don't think .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But we lose the locator .
Project Manager: Alright then .
Marketing: Really ?
Project Manager: We're gonna have a beep .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Well {gap} we're going to have a beeping thing .
Industrial Designer: So instead of speaker , {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: But yeah , it's it's not like sample speaker , but it will just beep , so we still have the locate .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'Kay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Cool . That's not a very exciting colour . I think you should make it more vegetable-like . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Tha
User Interface: Which colour , the the colour of the phone or the colour of the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh the the beeper thing .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: It {disfmarker}
User Interface: But it can be yellow as well . It can come in the same colour as the the case .
Project Manager: 'Cause we we won't have run out of our pot of Play-Doh {gap} .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , I think Jen wants it to vibrate .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , I know I know , my pen vibrates .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: You know , your pen vibrates ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But only for a very short time . Um okay . So looks like we've designed a banana .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well done , team . {vocalsound} Um we need {disfmarker} we've just got about ten minutes or so left of the meeting , so it would be good if we could just have a little talk about the project itself and how it went , um so that we can feed back to the management for next time they're designing a product .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think it mm {disfmarker}
Marketing: Cool .
Project Manager: Feedback ? Ideas ?
User Interface: Yeah mm , as far as creativity is concerned , yeah I think there was there was room for creativity . The only the only problem being that at the end we had to cut some things down because of the the budget we had .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think uh n one thing that was lacking uh was that we did not know what the various things cost to begin with .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Um we kap kept a adding things randomly .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So , had we known {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: If we'd had that sheet at the beginning {gap} should've been like , okay , so we can have that lot , let's just throw it together and do what we can .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , that or not , yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . So {vocalsound} d all the random decisions at the end could have been prevented .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But in terms of the process of um going and working individually and then coming back to a meeting , that that worked in terms of .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , mm .
Marketing: I think 'cause the meetings were so regular , you know . It wasn't like we were alone for very long ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: so you didn't {vocalsound} st go off and think , wouldn't it be great to have a vibrating {vocalsound} remote control {vocalsound} shaped like a banana ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Banana . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: and then , you know , come back three days later and Jen's going look , look , it vibrates and it looks like a banana .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Um yeah , so yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , the m the means were very very good , the means we used .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm , the whiteboard digital pens .
User Interface: And the pens . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh I like the pens .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} We like the pens . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I want one . That would just be so cool , to d do all your notes and s
Project Manager: Yeah , you could take it to lectures and just write stuff down
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah ,
Project Manager: and have it printed out when you got back to the office .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: that's it's it's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: They great ?
Industrial Designer: I wonder what one of these costs . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Do you think they'd notice if one went ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} I don't think you should say that was the recording .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh okay .
Marketing: Okay , cover up the microphone . Alright , let's take it . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yep . Shh . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yep .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: But that worked well having having a whiteboard that we could draw on as well as having the PowerPoint , 'cause the {disfmarker} I find that the problem with PowerPoint often is that it's so static and you can't change it once you're in there ,
Marketing: It is a bit limiting , isn't it ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: yep .
User Interface: Yeah , and and and this time also the time limits but actually preparing the {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . The thing flew in ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: you didn't have the whole whooshing thing , 'cause there wasn't time for that , so yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . That's alright , that always irritates me anyway , yeah .
Marketing: Not that you can do that on the board , either . We could make some little {disfmarker}
User Interface: But yeah , but I mean already just just preparing the slides before before the meeting , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , totally , I mean that was fairly tight anyway , I mean especially with that last-minute alteration .
Project Manager: Mm . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} back it , {vocalsound} this is {disfmarker} just had to be changed
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: . And {disfmarker} yeah , so {disfmarker} cool .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Are we supposed to say nice things about Jen now ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And presumably you don't {disfmarker} you can say nasty things as well .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I have no stake in it .
User Interface: I was I was satisfied with with the leadership , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , definitely .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: You weren't like a a dictating leader , so that was always good .
Project Manager: You have to say that , 'cause I'm taking the notes .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I'll leave the room and you can have another go .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: I know you've got the pen , you might attack me with it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Better than that than the banana .
User Interface: And then the teamwork I think I think it worked quite quite nicely , yeah .
Project Manager: I think it worked quite well .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Did anyone feel that they were getting sort of covered up and not being able to say their bit ?
User Interface: To express them mm mm
Industrial Designer: Mm . I guess it was a fairly small group ,
User Interface: no .
Industrial Designer: so all of us got to express our opinions , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {gap} . New ideas found . Not quite sure what about .
User Interface: Well it's it's it's pretty new ,
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: pretty novel solution for a for a remote control really , all this flipping open thing and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: I don't know , I don't go shopping for remote controls that often , maybe somebody's already though of it .
User Interface: Yeah , neither neither do I ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but I've never seen anything and and none of my examples were was was like this , actually , so .
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah . I'll be looking out next time I need to write an essay .
Project Manager: Yeah , that's right . {vocalsound}
Marketing: That looks boring , I'll see if anyone's made a {gap} remote control .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah maybe w maybe we could have a patent on this one .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Patent patent patent . Mm .
Marketing: I think we'd like to think the ideas were new ,
Project Manager: Banana remote .
Marketing: but we've got no way of finding out . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Or you can always go to Google and type in banana remote control .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That vibrates {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Flip . Vibrate
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , but that would just come up with like other things really wouldn't it .
Project Manager: . And uh {disfmarker} yeah . {vocalsound} Nothing that you really want . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: True . Yeah . {vocalsound} Okay . So , costs are within budget ,
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: Yes . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: well within budget , including a little {disfmarker} what have we got ? One Euro left over for bits that we didn't foresee . Um we've evaluated the project .
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: And it's fabulous .
Project Manager: You've got the scores . Can you put that in the project documents file ?
Marketing: It's in the project documents {gap} .
Project Manager: It's in there already . And the process wheel didn't really have any major problems with . Were there any {disfmarker} was there anything that you found difficult , or anything that didn't go as smoothly as you'd hope ?
User Interface: And my main difficulty was the the time pressure .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Otherwise it's it's all fine .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , sometimes it's like a little bit rushed .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I thought that was good though , because if you're given too much time then you got nothing to do with your time and um {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Although we could have made the R_s better had we had five more minute . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay then . Um I think we're still well within our time .
Marketing: Yeah , we've got like five minutes left .
Project Manager: We've got about five minutes left , but if we've finished , then we've finished . We're just too too efficient
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We certainly are ,
Project Manager: and you should never drag a meeting on just because you have extra time .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: mm . Yeah .
User Interface: Yes .
Project Manager: So I would say that's the end of that meeting .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: Thank you , team .
User Interface: Yeah , it was a pleasure working with you .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , same here . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It was very productive day and {disfmarker}
Marketing: We could draw animals on the board again .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Mm uh no . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm uh no . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I don't think so . {vocalsound}
User Interface: You can make some animals .
Marketing: I don't like Play-Doh , no .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh , you don't like anim
Marketing: It's just minging . It smells so bad .
User Interface: {vocalsound} It doesn't ?
Marketing: It does .
User Interface: Smells quite nice . Smells very sweet .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Right , so we have to complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary when they send it .
Industrial Designer: Was there a questionnaire already sent ?
Project Manager: I don't know if it's already sent or not .
Marketing: No , it hasn't been .
Project Manager: Um presumably I have to {disfmarker}
Marketing: Do we have to go back into the other room or can we stay in here now ?
Project Manager: I don't see why you can't stay here , really .
Marketing: Okay , so the other way . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Did I save this one ? Production costs .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I made your animal for you .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} It was supposed to be pink . {vocalsound} But it was blue on the board .
User Interface: Yeah , that's the one {disfmarker}


Project Manager: So
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I hope you're ready for this uh functional design meeting .
Marketing: Of course . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Um so I will take the minutes you mm you three are going to do presentation . Um uh we want to know {disfmarker} to {disfmarker} at the end to know the new project's requirement so we need uh to know the the user uh needs that we want to fulfil to fulfil the {disfmarker} from the technical part we want to know how it going to work and um third part {vocalsound} uh I don't remember {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: which is not very good . Ah of course , how to to design this uh this {disfmarker}
Marketing: Nice stuff {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} yeah . So um let's go for the three presentations , so first um Marketing Expert .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Who starts ? {vocalsound} Oh . Ha . okay .
Project Manager: So wait a minute . Mm .
Marketing: So I dunno if I can do that like this ? Yeah ? So it's being modified . Do you want {disfmarker} yeah , open . Read only . I hope I saved it . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So , um
User Interface: Sammy Benjo . I know this name uh .
Marketing: yeah , this is my name . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Sounds uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound} We met before .
Marketing: So as you know , you {disfmarker} I think you already know me , Sammy Benjo . I am the expert in marketing and I want to tell you about what people uh s want and uh like and dislike in remote controls , and I hope this is going to help you to to design it correctly . So next please . Uh-oh . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm {vocalsound} uh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it is put F_ five {gap} .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Hmm .
Industrial Designer: The full page presentation , yep .
Marketing: Yeah maybe in the full page
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: F_ F_ five .
Marketing: because i I spent lots of time doing this presentation , so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yep .
Project Manager: F_ five .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Uh-huh hmm okay .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm .
Marketing: So basically uh what I suggest is that uh instead of deciding ourself what what could be and what should be a good uh remote control , let's ask people who are users of remote controls how they feel about w the current remote controls , what they like , what they don't like and um and what they do with them by the way {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: because they are supposed to be useful . {vocalsound} Don't forget about that . So we've we've conducted a a survey on on the use of uh remote controls and I'd like to show you some of the results we found on this survey . And next please . Yeah , so basically what we found was that uh there are several things that the user don't like in remote controls . First of all , they find it very ugly . {vocalsound} Current remote controls as you know they're the same as this one uh they're not nice colour , not nice shape , I mean they're all the same , and they're not l good looking . Um what is interesting is that in fact it seems that they were {disfmarker} people are ready to pay for nice and look {disfmarker} and fancy looking uh remote control , so I think we should probably spend lots of time in {disfmarker} and effort in that um . And the other thing is that uh the the current remote controls are not so easy to use and it it {disfmarker} the the current uh facilities that they offer do not match what people really want to use their remote controls . For instance uh we see that uh they zap very often so I think this is a very uh important uh functionality that it should be easy for them to to zap uh in one way or another . And most of the buttons uh on uh current remote controls are not used , so I think we should design something where some of the buttons which are those that are used should be easier to see and use than others that only a couple of people are using . Um next please . {vocalsound} Now {vocalsound} people are very frustrated w with their {vocalsound} remote controls
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: and they for instance uh they don't even find it {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: it's {vocalsound} it's often lost somewhere in the in the {disfmarker} in your home and nobody knows where it is .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Agree .
Marketing: Maybe if we have something where we could {vocalsound} ask the remote control please , where are you ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Like uh something to to {disfmarker} like t I think phones . Some of the phones have some of this kind of s functionality . Uh of course phone you can always phone your phone
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: but {vocalsound} you can't phone your {vocalsound} your remote control .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You can {disfmarker} you are {gap} .
Project Manager: Why not ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: But why not ? Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: And because of the fact that there are so many buttons in these remote controls that nobody use ,
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: in fact they don't even know how to use them , so most of the the people say they they don't know how to {disfmarker} they {disfmarker} to use properly their r remote controls . And uh they are bad for R_S_I_ but uh I don't remember what is R_S_I_ .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay uh tha that's look great .
Marketing: {vocalsound} So I think they are bad . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} R_S_I_ mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Mm nobody has any idea about that ? Well I'll check uh with my
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's electromagnetic waves or something kind of maybe uh effect .
Marketing: Oh , okay ,
User Interface: No , I don't think so .
Marketing: I think it's a technical thing
Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Marketing: which our {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: because infrared uses some electromagnetic technology ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: and those waves have high {disfmarker}
Marketing: So , it seems that {vocalsound} it's a lot of people for a concept that we don't know {vocalsound}
User Interface: But twenty six percent , do you know {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Or something we don't know . {vocalsound} Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh .
User Interface: Twenty five . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Uh .
Marketing: but we have to take this into account .
User Interface: Every fourth , you know . {vocalsound} Every four {disfmarker} some of us knows .
Industrial Designer: Yeah it's {disfmarker} People really {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: So anyway
User Interface: One of us {disfmarker}
Marketing: that's for what the biggest frustration uh of the user and um
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: what else do I have ? Next slide ? Ah yeah .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So we've listed a couple of uh
User Interface: Functions .
Marketing: s uh functions that may be uh used by u the user in the current uh available uh remote controls and uh well the tables look very nice to read but what is important is to understand that the power button is not used often because in general you {vocalsound} use it only once per session , but it is very relevant . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: People want to have a power button . Channel selection is uh o often used {disfmarker} very often used and indeed uh very relevant .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Ah {vocalsound} now I remember what is R_S_I_ {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: it's repetitivity stress injury . {vocalsound} We have to be careful with that word but {vocalsound} uh anyway
Industrial Designer: Uh .
Marketing: I continue my presentation so {disfmarker} yeah ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: channel selection is um very important , very often used . Volume is not often used but people uh want to have control on volume and that makes sense of course . And n then you have things which are very much less often used like the settings . Audio settings , screen settings , even teletext and channel settings . All of them . they're not often used and they are s more or less relevant . It seems that people find teletext teletext uh relevant , even if I personally never use it but seems that it's average relevant at least , so .
Project Manager: I have been told that we uh don't consider teletext , that it's out of date now because of internet .
Marketing: I can tell you that uh in a l in a scale between one and ten relevant uh not relevant to relevant people scored a six on this , which is not as uh these these two one were {disfmarker} had I think ten I think .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: But but if you compare with these ones , uh I think they scored a one or two .
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: Not very relevant , so if if there are good reason not to put teletext it's okay but just know that people find it somehow relevant .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's for the main functions I think and uh then we can ask uh ourself uh what people don't have that may be useful . For instance I think {disfmarker} net next slide . {vocalsound} One of the thing {disfmarker} the trend uh that uh you are probably aware of is the possibility {disfmarker} the eventual possibility of having speech recognition in your remote control , so you wouldn't have to tap tap in your buttons but just tell your remote control or whatever you need you have what you want . So we've conducted a survey about uh whether people would like or not to have uh this kind of uh functionality in their remote control and as we can see it really depends on the age . Young people , probably because it's a buzz word , find it very relevant . And uh as the age goes up {vocalsound} the {vocalsound} the relevance goes down .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} So now it really depends on the kind of uh targeting uh wha who are we targeting with this remote control ?
Industrial Designer: 'Cause {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think if we are targeting young people then uh it's probably something we have to consider . If we are targeting you very old people this is something they really don't know why they {disfmarker} this should be so now
Project Manager: Mm-mm . Okay .
Marketing: this is of course , depends on that . And um I don't have any conclusion , I didn't have time the meeting was very tight , so that's basically my findings . And uh , if you have any question ?
Project Manager: Mm I think it's good , okay . You done a good review .
User Interface: I got one question ,
Marketing: I can go back .
Industrial Designer: Thank you .
Marketing: Yeah one question ,
User Interface: uh you are a Market Expert
Marketing: yeah ?
User Interface: so
Marketing: I am . {vocalsound}
User Interface: should we aim at the young people or not ?
Marketing: I think we should aim at the young people . But uh I think they are {disfmarker} they are those uh who might be more interested in a in a new device .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: In general the the early adopters of a new device are young people , less than {disfmarker} more than {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay , then teletext is used less .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Then teletext is useless for them I think ,
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: yeah . Because they they have other means of finding their information . Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm mm mm . Okay .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: That's good point .
Marketing: But {disfmarker} yeah . Nope .
Industrial Designer: Mm , yep .
User Interface: Mm . Okay .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: 'Kay ?
Industrial Designer: Thank you .
Project Manager: So um now I think it's the turn of the the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I'm not sure um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Of the technical function , so {vocalsound} uh
Marketing: So I think it's you , huh ?
Industrial Designer: Uh it's
Marketing: No ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} That's me .
Project Manager: what effect {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: techni function of {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , user requiremen
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Wait a second .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Argh .
Industrial Designer: I have to do working design so uh
Project Manager: So you're {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's {disfmarker} but this but number three , yes . Mm-hmm . So , my name is Mark Dwight , and um I am responsible for User Interface Design .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: However , uh mm Project Manager asked me to give you some presentation about technical functions design . Uh , as I'm a more an artist
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: that's gonna be less technical functions but more User Interface and current intentions and everything which is linked with this .
Project Manager: Okay . Let's go .
User Interface: So next slide please . And uh a general method which is {disfmarker} seems to be very useful for our task
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: is not to forget about uh Occam razor . We should never complicate things too much . We should only make a remote control , nothing more . Nothing more than this , just a remote control .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: 'Cause current remote controls they are never easy enough to use .
Marketing: Makes sense . {vocalsound}
User Interface: So , make a click , please . So here is this remote control .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's quite a standard one , but it's not from a T_V_ , it's from a much easier device like air conditioning or something . But you know , we can use it for a T_V_ easily . Only buttons we need is on off , volume , channels and maybe some options or something else , and please make a click , compared to this one
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's {disfmarker}
User Interface: which one would you prefer ? I guess this .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: I would say the simplest one as long as there are the uh {disfmarker} I find the buttons that I need every time I need a button .
User Interface: Sure , sure .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Maybe it can be yeah middle of {disfmarker} like , between those two
User Interface: Yeah , and our method is going to be , provide simple
Industrial Designer: li
Project Manager: Oh sorry . {vocalsound}
User Interface: simple desires into simple actions .
Marketing: Nice . Nice sentence .
User Interface: Findings .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh sorry .
User Interface: Our question of the style , we should remember that our company
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: puts fashion into electronics and we should never forget about it .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Concept .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} S you should {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Be simple . Be simple and you'll lean on this market .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Market is a {disfmarker} of remote controls {disfmarker} you know it better ,
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: it's very well , it's it's not an easy field to to play , you know ? So be simple .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: For personal preferences I think that to make a baby-proof remote control it got to be a titanium .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's a really good style , it going to be {disfmarker} look like like this . It is unbreakable and it is very universal . W we'll have a screen with a back light which can change colours ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: and we can put all the options into this screen . We'll need only few buttons . All the other things can be controlled through the screen . And all these buttons should be easy to find and to click , 'cause when you watch a movie and you want to change something , you always try to find a good button and click it , but you should do it by touching it and finding it easily just by touch . So {disfmarker} Press {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: I would propose this concept for design , just few buttons , a screen with a back light which can change colours , titanium
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: I think , and uh what else ? I got just very few and good ideas . We need power and volume . And let us include two nice features into this device , first , power on and off can be made fully automatic . When you go to the sofa , take your control and point it to the T_V_ ,
Project Manager: It's off .
Marketing: Hmm .
Project Manager: It's on .
User Interface: the T_V_ turns on .
Marketing: And when does it turn off ?
User Interface: When you don't touch the control but you go out of the {disfmarker} For for enough time
Marketing: Oh so you have a
User Interface: like uh you {disfmarker}
Marketing: sensing {disfmarker} sensor machine that uh knows {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's a question to our technical design , our {vocalsound} two engineers .
Industrial Designer: {gap} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Tech {vocalsound}
User Interface: And another nice feature that I would like to implement is uh volume control . Suppose you set u you set up some volume and then you move out or you move to the other corner of the room and take your control with you . Like , you want to to change the chair or you want to move to the armchair from the sofa or something , and then the volume changes .
Project Manager: Or you want to go to the kitchen . {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's easy to do ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: you just control the {disfmarker}
Marketing: According to your distance to {disfmarker} and the angle maybe , if you have a stereo system .
Industrial Designer: Distance .
User Interface: According to the distance . {gap} Yeah yeah yeah . So {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh I'm not sure about the screen , wha what is the use usefulness of the screen ? Uh is it a touch screen by the way ?
User Interface: I think it can be just a menu which can be controlled with a left , right , up , down and enter .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: So it gives instructions but uh it has to be with an back light somehow . {gap}
User Interface: So , its main purpose in fact is a back light ,
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: which change colours ,
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: which makes it easier to find , and each can {disfmarker} it can respond for your voice , like it can turn on the light for you just to f find it easily , yeah ?
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: So basically that's it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um I see that you target uh several s application not only T_V_ but i like we talk about um universal uh remote control .
User Interface: Can be easily done ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: 'cause you got simple designs , y we should put it to simple actions .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: Let it be universal , so you want to use it for your hi-fi system . You want to change tracks and you want to adjust volume .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Just few actions , a few actions for everything .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Hmm . S
User Interface: All the rest , we sh we'll put it into this menu on the screen .
Project Manager: Mm . Since we were targeting a really soon uh uh date for the the the um i issuing of this uh remote control I think we will only concentrate on T_V_ for the moment and then maybe m make it more generalised {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Okay , okay .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Yeah and it {disfmarker} mm .
User Interface: Okay , but it's quite universal you know .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: We can just extend it to any device .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: So for instance if I want to go to {disfmarker} directly to channel twenty five , how would I do {disfmarker} can I do that with this ?
User Interface: Uh twenty five .
Marketing: Yeah mm let's say I am uh on channel eight now . You know these days we have hundreds of channels ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: that's not so easy to go just next next next when you have hundreds of channels .
User Interface: {vocalsound} In fact I would propose another solution .
Marketing: Or is it ?
User Interface: Basically you use just four or five channels , right ?
Marketing: Most people {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: yeah .
User Interface: So uh set up your T_V_ set like channels that you use they're one , two , three and five , and you will never have to go to a twenty fives channel .
Marketing: In fact in in one uh remote control that I've seen , instead of doing that d you could just say these are the cha ch channel three , twenty eight , forty eight and uh sixty four are those that I want to by cycled with my next button .
Project Manager: Yeah it's it's the same solution , I think . Hmm .
Marketing: I uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: B yeah .
Industrial Designer: But even we can have some uh L_C_D_ display , like you can uh de you can just button the number
Marketing: Go to channel twenty five .
Industrial Designer: and then it go
Marketing: One thing is that as I said in my presentation people really do like to z zap .
Industrial Designer: t because {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: So even if they are only watching four or five channels , I think they want to zap out of the one hundred channels ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: But still {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: just because this is one kind of thing they do , zapping .
Project Manager: Yeah uh on zap it's only next next next next next , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: And it's only next .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah
User Interface: Mm . We got these buttons here . Next next .
Marketing: so {disfmarker} but you have to {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah. .
User Interface: Or say this can be back .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . But otherwise like we can put some display on numbers and then they can just press {disfmarker} suppose two five they just press two and five
Marketing: So it would be {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: and then {disfmarker}
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Maybe we can make uh different modes for each button
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: and you can change mode {disfmarker} zapping mode or
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Alright .
Project Manager: uh current chan
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah . Yeah but since we are focusing only on T_V_ remote controls
Marketing: {vocalsound} Listening more .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so we can have more functions for T_V_
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: uh if you want to go for a universal then we ought to limit for functions for each of our devices .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
User Interface: Could we carry out some research if we w really need this , like how many people really need to go to channel number twenty five and then to sixty four ?
Marketing: Well I could could uh have a look at that {vocalsound} maybe .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} I'll check in my department if there's someone specialist in that . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Although I don't know . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Alright ? Thanks for your attention .
Project Manager: Uh you're finish ? Okay . So now {vocalsound} the technical aspects of this new device . Mm .
Industrial Designer: Two . Yeah , if {disfmarker} {gap} Sorry .
Project Manager: You prefer it {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Uh as you know , I am mister Ramaro . I am an expert in uh industrial design of all electronic devices and I previously devised many uh {disfmarker} like digital calculators and electronic calculators . {vocalsound} So now I'll briefly describe the working design of our remote control . Well , as you know the basic function of remote control is sending some message to the the device , like T_V_ or V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player etcetera . So we will have a p portable device which will send message to the the main device like T_V_ . So we need to have some energy source to do what {disfmarker} to do the functions , what we want on this portable device . {vocalsound} And usually this {disfmarker} so to do these functions we need an interface , which basically some kind of pressing buttons or keys or like moving jack or something like that . And then these messages {disfmarker} these key buttons can be transferred into some kind of message and then it will process by the chip and then it will generate some information to the main device . It's generally in the form of infrared or some kind of s sensor information . Then we will have the main control in the main device to do the particular action what we want . So , basically we need uh since we are focusing on our interface device {gap} remote control mainly the energy source like the battery and then we have user interface like uh the keypad and you know buttons we want , and then we have some chip , it's mainly digital signal processing chip because since we are {disfmarker} I am one doing mostly digital uh devices we ought to have some kind of processor which take care of all these functions and put it in some digital format . And then we'll have the infrared L_E_D_ source which sends the information to the main device . Then we'll have switch in our main uh um device to do particular operations , and we ought to do different codes for different T_V_s ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so some T_V_s will have different encryption codes for doing s s uh channel changing and these things .
Project Manager: Okay . To make it quite uh an universal uh device uh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , because the people don't use one particular brand so
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: or at least we have more more than five brands , which are really good .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So we need to check their specifications and do their uh encryption that's passing information to the T_V_ device . So we need to have particular encryption codes .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Then , components , so we have the main uh energy source and then we will have some buttons and then we will have infrared uh source and then we have some inside some chip in in the device . Uh since I don't have much time so I'll input the connections to all this components . And since I also want to know feedback from our Marketing Expert and User Interface ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so if you want to add some more components we can incorporate them .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . And from from the discussion we had do you {disfmarker} can you make it on the whiteboard , or {disfmarker} mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , I'm sure , because since our User Interface {gap} speech recognition and also Marketing Expert for the speech recognition is really handy ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: we can have another , like uh s simple speech recogniser on our D_S_B_ chip .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Since we have some kind of uh energy this is our this normal battery , so this battery , once you s switch on it will take power and we can have some speech recognition and in our g generally small digital signal processing chip so that and we will put uh the small uh simple speech recogniser
Project Manager: On {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: and we can also train the speech recogniser for particular user so you just {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh train it , okay . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: yeah , so that we just use simple recog
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Too complex .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: no but but {disfmarker}
Marketing: But uh very very good to sell . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . No , even in {disfmarker} you can find even simple mobile device like any mobile brand you can have these voice dialers or these things , yeah .
Marketing: Think of a all these young people who would love to say that this remote control only works for them ,
User Interface: Okay . Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: and ha ha you cannot use my remote control ,
Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: because it's targeted to me . Whatever . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: And what about the price of this component ?
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker} Uh maybe we can make uh it in five Euros and even less than that ,
Project Manager: It mm {disfmarker} okay .
Marketing: Hmm . Cheap .
Industrial Designer: because we want to have uh millions and in bulk ,
Marketing: Millions . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: so we can make really simp
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: and we want to make really simple device
Marketing: Cheap .
Industrial Designer: because we have only very few words like like power , switch on or some like
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: then we'll have something like this um we'll have volume and then we will have s particular channel , so users can listen .
Marketing: The user uh will just be able to say uh please can you uh pump up the vo pump up the volume
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: or or it will be something like volume , up , down .
Industrial Designer: Ye No , yeah , a user can use any kind of sender but they should have this prompt {gap} volume and then {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: With a keywords and {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: yeah volume and decrease or increase , so we try to only recognise those words
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm mm .
Industrial Designer: and and because we can't really say user to say same wording
Marketing: Couple of words .
Industrial Designer: then it become more mechanical and {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Um .
Industrial Designer: And then we can have channel they can say , okay I want eight , because we don't know like users have different programmes , I mean they don't really follow same channels strict uh so we just want channel number ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay . {gap} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: we don't want like B_B_C_ or C_N_N_ or something else
Marketing: Of course uh it has to be {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: because it will be complicated so we'll have only these three uh main basic uh anyway volume is not really speech recognition problem ,
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: it's it it will be take care of our main {disfmarker} mm .
User Interface: No you know it's a conceptual question , 'cause now I see th this {disfmarker} the picture in front of my eyes like a user taking his remote control and shouting into it , volume up , volume up ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} But then I think you you {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: and and he's coming {disfmarker} you know , he's really annoyed with this , down , up , down . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: First of all I I think this is not uh functionality that it is going to be instead of using the buttons .
Project Manager: No , in no not only speech , yeah .
Marketing: It's on top of using the button .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I it's an option .
User Interface: Okay , for this budget like twelve Euros .
Marketing: Well , I dunno . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah actually we we can have one switch to like uh switch on , on and off , this {gap} processor and {disfmarker} This really {gap} , suppose like here we have our main chip which controls power , volume and this part and this D_S_P_s .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Again , this to have some interaction like suppose people use D_S_P_ then it particularly sends some information to the chip like in some form , like volume and {gap} like this key .
User Interface: Okay. .
Industrial Designer: So it may not be like very expensive , because since we are only focusing on T_V_ remote control
Marketing: T_V_ .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Mm-hmm , mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker} and we have only few things here {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Sho to to train , okay .
User Interface: Did you consider the r gest uh gesture recognition ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Like , if I want to put volume up I like do {disfmarker} mm I take my remote control do like {disfmarker} something like
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: roll 'em up
Industrial Designer: Um uh uh this point we didn't consider
User Interface: or roll 'em down .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Very expensive ,
Industrial Designer: because it's it's very expensive
Marketing: no ?
Industrial Designer: because v our target is only like twelve point five Euros
Project Manager: And well , what about the idea of automatic on off on the button , yeah .
User Interface: Mm why ?
Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
Marketing: And volume control .
Industrial Designer: even automatic on off is also a bit problematic , because it {disfmarker} different criteria for different people like so suppose people are really uh they just uh they don't touch the remote and mm y you don't know how much time you need to switch on or switch off
Marketing: So but uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
Marketing: Sh should we target a a user personalised uh uh remote control ? So in in a given room there might be more than one remote control . We would uh have each one and uh with our own personal uh settings .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yay yeah . Yeah that can be possible , especially for power settings , so user can say okay , suppose they're watching a tennis match or something then they can say okay uh after one hour I {disfmarker}
Marketing: Hmm .
Project Manager: Wouldn't that make uh {vocalsound} arguments ?
Industrial Designer: They can make {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , of course .
Project Manager: I want uh {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah we can have {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} That's no problem , we will sell more . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And we can increase this {vocalsound} the strength
User Interface: {vocalsound} We got a really good Market Expert .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah exactly .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} y you can buy one with {vocalsound}
User Interface: Let's send more , let's sell more .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay . You have mm something else to say ? Uh .
Industrial Designer: Uh , not very much ,
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: like {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Okay . Thanks .
Project Manager: Okay , thanks .
Industrial Designer: Thank you . Yep . Thank you .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So
Industrial Designer: Can you just {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: mm
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: mm I think , okay , we're just on time . Um mm mm . So , we're now going to l have the lunch break .
Marketing: Mm great . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Then we will work again for thirty minutes individual work , and um {vocalsound} we will uh meet again for the next meeting , and uh in this one want to to be more focused on the individual actions the um {disfmarker} on the components so {vocalsound} uh you will focus on the component concept um
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah .
Project Manager: uh of course the U_I_D_ Mark will be uh focused on the user interface concept
Industrial Designer: Mark will {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and uh our m Market Expert Sammy Benjo uh on the trend watching . So {vocalsound} um of course like before specific instruction will be sent to you by your personal personal coach . Well I think that's all . And we have um maybe we have to {disfmarker} we say , only for T_V_ , not teletext ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh I think automatic on off control uh it's not possible .
Industrial Designer: Uh it's in current price , yeah .
Marketing: Difficult .
Project Manager: Yeah , maybe in the next uh step if we make it work um .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . But speech recogniser can be possible .
Project Manager: Yeah , implemented . O okay , we can think about that .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: And um do you see something else ?
Marketing: No .
User Interface: Uh , should it be equipped with the uh , with uh speakers ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Speakers in the remote cont
User Interface: Like , you want to find it , you shout
Marketing: Oh yeah .
Project Manager: Uh yeah
User Interface: control ,
Project Manager: that's {disfmarker}
User Interface: and it answers is I'm here ? Or {disfmarker}
Marketing: It just beeps .
User Interface: Just beeps ?
Marketing: That would be enough .
Project Manager: Or maybe you want to phone him .
Marketing: Something very cheap .
Project Manager: Since now all {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah .
Marketing: But that's ex that's expensive . Uh .
Project Manager: yeah ? Think
Industrial Designer: Yeah , especially the power , it really consumes
Project Manager: Uh-huh .
Industrial Designer: because it should be all the time on and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well I I heard of devices where you just uh whistle them and and they {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And it's answered .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: because of the the frequency they they just answer to that .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: I can't whistle . No , no , I can't .
Marketing: You can't whistle . Uh-huh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Or a clap . You can clap . Can you ?
Project Manager: Clap clap clap it's a good {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Clap is good .
Project Manager: I I think it's universal .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Tak
Project Manager: {vocalsound} What about people without hand ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Just a {vocalsound} suggestion .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah I think it's good .
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} With only one hand ? {vocalsound} {vocalsound} These are not our target people . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm uh okay .
Industrial Designer: But it's a good feature I guess yeah we need to think about more how to incorporate it .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay .
User Interface: Just don't interfere with other devices like 'cause like all these people do that their lights are turning on with clapping .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Oh .
Marketing: Oh that's e that already exists
User Interface: Yeah , I got it at my home , like {gap} {vocalsound} .
Marketing: okay okay .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Oh yeah , you do have .
User Interface: Oops .
Industrial Designer: Ah it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Wow . You're trendy . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm , so {vocalsound} let's to think s so that {disfmarker}
Marketing: Think about it .
Project Manager: yeah . I think that could be in the component uh concept uh .
Marketing: Yeah , okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: It {disfmarker} yes . {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: Okay . Good
Project Manager: So ,
Marketing: we're done ?
Project Manager: yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: let's go to lunch .
Industrial Designer: Thank you , thank you very much .
Marketing: Right , thanks .
Project Manager: {gap}