Project Manager: All hooked up . {vocalsound} Okay , so now we are here at the functional design meeting . Um {vocalsound} hopefully this meeting I'll be doing a little bit less talking than I did last time 'cause this is when you get to show us what you've been doing individually . The agenda for the meeting , I put it in the sh shared documents folder . I don't know if that meant that you could see it or not .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Did anyone ?
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: No .
Project Manager: No . Oh well . Um I'll try and do that for the next meeting as well so if you check in there , there's a shared project documents folder . Um and it should be in there .
User Interface: Mm . Um um wi on on a what ? Oh project project documents , yeah , yeah , yeah , okay .
Project Manager: Project documents , yeah . So I'll put it in there .
User Interface: Oh okay , yeah .
Project Manager: Is it best if I send you an email maybe , to let you know it's there ?
User Interface: Yes , I think so .
Project Manager: Yep . I'll do that next time . Um {vocalsound} I'll act as secretary for this meeting and just take minutes as we go through , and then I'll send them to you after the meeting . The main the main focus of this meeting is your presentations that you've been preparing during the time , so we'll go through each of you one by one . Um then we need to briefly discuss the new project requirements that were sent to us . I just sent
User Interface: Yeah , the last minute , yeah ,
Project Manager: at the last minute , I'm sorry about that ,
User Interface: yeah .
Project Manager: but we can see how that affects what you were you were doing .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um and then we need to , by the end of the meeting come to some kind of decision on who our target group's going to be and what the functions of the remote control {disfmarker} that's the the main goal is to come up with those two things , target group and functions of the remote control . And we've got forty minutes to do that in . So I would say {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: You said uh targ target groups ,
Project Manager: yeah ?
Industrial Designer: what does that mean ?
Project Manager: As uh who it is that we're going to be trying to sell this thing to ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh okay , 'kay .
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: So are {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So we need to {disfmarker} yeah , we need to have a fairly defined group that that we want to focus on
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: and then look at the functions um of the dem remote control itself . So with that I think it's best if I hand over to you . Does anyone have a preference for going first ?
Industrial Designer: Alright . {vocalsound} I can go first ,
Project Manager: You wanna go first ?
Industrial Designer: yeah .
User Interface: Okay . Hmm .
Project Manager: Okay , so we need to unplug my laptop and plug in yours .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I assume we just pull it out ?
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Right . Um {vocalsound} so f from the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Just before you start , to make it easier , would you three mind emailing me your presentations ? Once we {disfmarker} you don't have to do it now but when {disfmarker} once you go back ,
User Interface: Okay , yeah , afterwards , yeah , okay .
Industrial Designer: Right sure .
Project Manager: just so that I don't have to scribble everything down .
Industrial Designer: Uh okay . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} So n uh with uh with regard to the {vocalsound} uh working design of this uh uh remote control uh I've identified um {vocalsound} a few basic uh components of the remote and uh {vocalsound} se uh from the design , functional design perspective um w I c we can now uh know wha what exactly the components are and how how they work together with each other . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} So {vocalsound} {vocalsound} this is the method that uh I'll mostly be following in my um {vocalsound} in my uh role . Um the identification of the components , uh and uh since since I'm dealing only with the technical aspects , I would need feedback from the marketing person uh and {vocalsound} uh from the user interface person . Uh we'll then integrate this into the product design at a technical level
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: and uh basically update and come up with a new design , so it's a cyclical process . {vocalsound} Okay , so {vocalsound} these were the basic findings from today . The last three bullets have been integrated from uh the last minute uh email . Uh I just quickly jotted them down . Um {vocalsound} so basically uh the {disfmarker} as I told you the identification of how the remote control works and what are the various parts to it uh and what are the different processes um {vocalsound} and how the parts uh communicate with each other . Um {vocalsound} okay , so e the mee email said that teletext is now outdated , so we need to do away with that functionality of the remote control . Um also uh the remote control should be used only for television , because incorporating other features um makes it more comp complex . And the reason why teletext is outdated because uh of internet and uh the availability of internet over television . How however , our our remote control would only be dealing uh with the {vocalsound} the use for television , {vocalsound} in order to keep things simple . Um {vocalsound} also the management wants that um our design should be unique uh it {disfmarker} so {vocalsound} it should incorporate um colour and the slogan uh that our company um has it as its standard . {vocalsound} Okay , so he he here is a functional overview of the remote control . Um {vocalsound} there's basically an energy source at the heart uh which feeds into the chip and the user interface . The user interf interface communicates with the chip , so {vocalsound} I'll basic go over to the {disfmarker} Okay . {vocalsound} So {vocalsound} if uh if this is our energy source and this is a cell , uh it communicates {disfmarker} uh it feeds energy into the into the chip , which basically finds out h uh how how to do everything . There is a user interface here . {vocalsound} So whe when the user presses a button , it feeds into the chip and the chip then generates a response and takes the response to an infrared terminal , um which then {disfmarker} so the output of the chip is an infrared bit code , which is then communicated {vocalsound} to the remote site , which h has an infrared receiver . Um the there can be uh a bulb here or something to indicate whether the remote is on or communicating . Um so these are the essent so a all the functionality of the remote control , whatever new functions that we need to do , um make the chip more complicated uh and bigger , basically .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound} Um so {vocalsound} i in my personal preferences um {vocalsound} I'm hoping that we can ke keep the design as simple and clear as possible . This would uh help us uh to upgrade our technology at a future point of time . And uh also if we can incorporate uh the latest features in our chip design , so that our um {vocalsound} uh remote control does not become outdated soon and it's compatible with mot most uh televisions . {vocalsound} That's about it . {vocalsound} So anything that you would like to know or {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Thanks .
Project Manager: Do you have any um i idea about costs at this point ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No , I don't have any idea about what each component costs .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Br
Industrial Designer: Um yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . 'Cause that's something to consider , I guess , if we're if we're using more advanced technology , it might increase the price .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Certainly , yeah . So so tha yeah , {vocalsound} we definitely need to operate within our constraints ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but um {vocalsound} unfortunately I I do not have any data , so uh I just identified the functional components for that .
Project Manager: That's fine . Are there any more questions , or shall we just skip straight to the next one and then we can discuss all of them together at the end ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} I think we need like some general discussion at the end probably .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
Project Manager: Yeah , I think that will do . Okay , so do you want to {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , I think since since we were discussing some um design issues then I I I would like to continue {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes , shall shall we pull this up ?
User Interface: okay , yeah .
Project Manager: I think that has to come out of there .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm 'kay .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Thanks .
Project Manager: Yeah , I thought those last minute things , they're gonna hit you the worst . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh i {vocalsound} Okay , I hope {disfmarker} wait . Should it just {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I it'll take some time .
Project Manager: It ta takes a little {disfmarker} Oh , and have you {disfmarker}
User Interface: There's just nothing .
Project Manager: you need to then also press on yours , function F_ eight ,
User Interface: Oh right , right , right , um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: so the blue function key at the bottom and F_ eight .
User Interface: Okay . Nothin
Industrial Designer: Oh , there it is , yeah .
User Interface: okay , something is coming up .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Now it's coming ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It'll come up , it {disfmarker} um uh no signal .
Project Manager: computer no signal .
User Interface: No signal ? Why ?
Project Manager: Maybe again ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , it says something now ,
User Interface: Oh . My my computer went blank now .
Industrial Designer: adjusting {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , adjusting .
User Interface: Adjusting . But {vocalsound} I don't see anything
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: There we go , there we go .
User Interface: I don't see anything on my computer now .
Industrial Designer: Oh , that's strange .
Project Manager: Oh , if you press if you press function and that again
User Interface: This is the problem , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: there's there's usually three modes , one where it's only here , one where it's only there , and one where it's both .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: Um {gap} .
Industrial Designer: And one more time .
Project Manager: Okay , so one more time .
User Interface: Uh now it's {disfmarker} okay . No ? No .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Should {disfmarker} yeah just wait for a moment , adjusting .
User Interface: Oh okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
User Interface: Okay , that's fine , that's good . Okay , let's start from the beginning . So I'm going to speak about technical functions design uh just like some {vocalsound} some first issues that came up . Um 'kay , so the method I was um adopting at this point , it's not um for the for the whole um period of the um {vocalsound} all the project but it's just at th at this very moment .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Um uh my method was um to look at um other {vocalsound} um remote controls , uh so mostly just by searching on the web and to see what um functionality they used . And then um after having got this inspiration and having compared what I found on the web um just to think about what the de what the user really needs and what um what the user might desire as additional uh functionalities . {vocalsound} And yeah , and then just to um {vocalsound} put the main function of the remote control in in words .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Um so the findings uh were {vocalsound} um that the main function of the remote control is is just sending messages to the television set , so this quite straightforward . And uh w some of the main functions would be switching on , switching off , uh then the user would like to switch the channel um for example just m changing to the next channel to to flip through all all of the possible channels , or then mm {vocalsound} uh the other possibility would be that um she might just want to choose one particular channel , so we would need the numbers . And and also the volume is very important . Um {vocalsound} um {vocalsound} I als
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Sorry , cou could you go back for a second ?
User Interface: okay .
Industrial Designer: Uh switching on off channel , uh volume , {vocalsound} okay , that's great .
User Interface: 'Kay . Um um among the findings I found that m m most of the curr mm presently available remote controls also include other mm {vocalsound} functionalities um in their design , like operating a V_C_R_ , but they don't seem to be able to deal with D_V_D_ players , but then {vocalsound} there are {disfmarker} surely there are many other functionali functions that could possibly be added to them , but according to the last minute update um actually um we do not want to have all this complicated functions added to our design .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: So my personal preferences would be uh to keep the mm the whole remote control small um just like the physical size . And then it must be easy to use , so it must follow some conventions um like whereabouts you find the on off button and maybe the colour tends to be red or something . Um then {disfmarker} {vocalsound} yeah , the must-have buttons would be on off and then {vocalsound} the channel numbers and then um {vocalsound} the one that allows us to go to the next or the previous channel , and then volume has to be there . But then um other functionalities um {vocalsound} could be just {disfmarker} uh there could be a menu button and you could change things on the screen then , um for example brightness and mm similar functions could be just um {vocalsound} done through the menu . And yeah , the last question I had about whether we wanted to incorporate n uh more functionalities , the answer was already no because of the last minute update .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: So at the {disfmarker} for the time being that's uh that's all .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: If you have questions {disfmarker}
Project Manager: If {disfmarker} I mean that was the the directive that came through from management , but if we had a a decent case for {disfmarker} that we really think it's important to include video and D_V_D_ , I could get back to them and see . It's w it's just whether it's worth arguing about .
User Interface: Yeah , and also it's it's um {disfmarker} other question is uh because there are so many different {disfmarker} And there are so many different things that could possibly be included
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: because besides video and D_V_D_ there are the mm um video C_D_s and whatever , so it might be problematic to to choose between all these possible things .
Project Manager: Yeah . Mm-hmm . Okay .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: Are there any questions for clarification of Maarika before we go on to the next one ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} So in the u user interface requirements uh uh uh we we have been able to identify what are the basic buttons that we do want . Um but um {vocalsound} so so at this stage , uh how we go about implementing those button we will not identify or {disfmarker} I mean in {disfmarker} we can completely do away with buttons and uh have some kind of a fancy user interface or something like that . But uh is is there any uh uh any thoughts on that ?
User Interface: Um well , I think the buttons are still mm kind of the most um easy for the user to use ,
Industrial Designer: Right .
User Interface: I mean um what other options would you have ? A little screen or something , but this would be really kind of I think a lot of learning for the user
Industrial Designer: Yeah , and it'll make the costs {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: and and I mean the user just wants to get um get a result um quickly , not to spend time in like um giving several orders um I dunno .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: I think I th I would I would think the put the buttons , but if if you have other mm proposals um .
Industrial Designer: Uh I think the co costs will also play a big role when we come to know about them .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: So well we can probably wait until t we have more knowledge on that .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh i if the if the costs allow , we can have like an L_C_D_ display
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and uh with um {disfmarker} because we do want something fancy and fashionable as well . So yeah ? Cool .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . Yep .
Project Manager: Sure , we can discuss that maybe after the next one .
Marketing: Cool . Do you wanna give me the little cable thing ?
Project Manager: Do you want to {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Uh am I going in the right direction ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: {vocalsound} No . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Wait .
Project Manager: Oh , I'm getting hungry . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay , here it comes . Okay , here you are .
Marketing: Cool . Ah , that's why it won't meet . {vocalsound} Okay , cool .
Project Manager: You set ?
Marketing: Yep , cool . Okay , functional requirements .
Project Manager: Uh we need to do the function key thing so that it comes up on here .
Marketing: Alright , yeah .
Project Manager: Hello .
Industrial Designer: {gap} try to press {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Is it plugged in prop
Industrial Designer: oh , okay ,
Marketing: It's working .
Project Manager: it's working ?
Industrial Designer: yep .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Cool , okay .
Project Manager: Excellent .
Marketing: So what I have , wh where I've got my information from is a survey where the usability lab um observed remote control use with um a hundred subjects and then they gave them a questionnaire . Um so it was all about , you know , how people feel about the look and feel of the remote control , you know . What's the most annoying things about remote controls and um the possibility of speech recognition and L_C_D_ screens in remote control . Not that they actually gave me any answers on the L_C_D_ screens , so I should have taken that bit out , but anyway .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um okay , so . What they found is that people don't like how current remote controls are , so you know , definitely you should be looking at something quite different . Um seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly . {vocalsound} Uh the other twenty five percent have no fashion sense . Uh eighty percent of users would spend more to get um you know , a nice looking remote control .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um current remote controls , they don't match the user behaviour well , as you'll see on the next slide . Um I dunno what zapping is , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's um switching between channels , sort of randomly going through .
Marketing: Oh , right . But you have that little thing that comes up at the bottom and tells you what's on . Um okay , fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: so that's going back to what , you know , we were saying earlier about , you know , do you need all the buttons on the remote control ,
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: they just make it look ugly .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Okay ? Cool . Um so this is my little graph thing .
Project Manager: Ooh , that's a bit difficult to see .
Marketing: Mm k
Project Manager: If you explain it to us it'll be fine .
Marketing: Okay , well , I can send it to all of you . What it is is um it's cones ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: 'cause I thought they'd be more exciting . Um but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I liked the , I liked the litt
Marketing: ooh where's it go ?
Project Manager: ooh come back .
Marketing: Back . Oh .
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: Oh yes , cool . Okay , I'm gonna stop playing with the little pointy thing .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Um okay , so like what it shows is how much things are used relatively and what you can clearly see from that is the thing that's used most is the channel selection .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: What you can't see is volume selection , it's a little bit higher than all the others .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm , that's the next one along , yeah ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , so what the graph shows is that , you know , power , channel selection and volume selection are important , and the rest of them , you know , nobody really uses and so that's the the numbers along the top represent their like um their importance , you know ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: so on a scale of one to ten , how important is that
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: and , you know , channel selection and volume selection are absolutely essential , and the power , well it's not quite so essential , apparently , although I don't understand how it couldn't be ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} um and everything else , I think , you know , you can forget about having those buttons on the remote control , 'cause they're just not needed , and they're not used . Okay .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: This is the bit that the email messed up for me and that's what I was fiddling about with at the beginning of the thing . {vocalsound} Okay , cool . So um okay , so this is what people find annoying about remote controls . Uh that they get lost , that the uh you know , they're not intuitive and that they're bad for repetitive strain injury .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: I think if you're watching enough T_V_ to get repetitive strain injury from um you know , watching T_V_ , then {vocalsound} that's the least of your problems ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} The remote control . {vocalsound}
Marketing: but you know , {vocalsound} it's up there .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Um that {disfmarker} yeah . Okay , so um I mean the the R_S_I_ thing would be that , like when you have the computer keyboards and you keep your wrists up would be something that encourages {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: you want something with an ergonomic t design that encourages good use of the remote control and you know , not straining your wrists watching T_V_ {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes . Okay , cool . Right , um sorry this is pink because I was copying and pasting the table , and I didn't have time to white it out again .
Project Manager: That's alright .
Marketing: Um okay , but that shows how people {disfmarker} whether they would pay more for voice recognition software . So you can see from that that , you know , younger people to the age of thirty five are quite likely to pay quite a lot more f well quite {disfmarker} are quite likely to pay more for voice recognition software , whereas as people get older , they're a bit more sceptical about it and they're less willing to to try it . Um so clearly voice recognition is something to think about , but um you know I d I do wonder how well that would work given that a T_V_ , you know , tends to be people talking and um , you know , how are you going to stop it from just flipping channels whilst watching T_V_ .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: Um okay ? Cool . Um okay , so these are my personal preferences . {vocalsound} So you have sleek , stylish , sophisticated , you know , so something that's , you know , a bit cool . Um you know , functional , so it's useful , but minimalist . Um there's a there's an important thing that , you know , people use when , you know , when you're filling up your home , you know , a lot of people fill up their home with bits of crap , basically , you know , and you've got all this stuff , and you're just like , what the hell is that , who is ever gonna use it ? You know , so things should either be functional or beautiful or preferably both , so I think we need to aim for both .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Mm .
Marketing: Um okay , then a long battery life , like you were talking about earlier and um , you know , I was thinking that solar power would be quite cool because , you know , your remote control just sits there , and you could just sit it in the sunshine and save the environment a bit .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Um and then like a locator , so you know , kind of like you have for a mobile phone or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: not a mobile phone {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Some kind of a ring ,
Project Manager: Keys and things like that ,
Industrial Designer: some {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , that's it , you know .
Project Manager: yeah . Whistle and it {vocalsound} screams at you , yeah .
Marketing: I know , it's weird . My flatmate and I were talking about this on the way into uni this morning and I was like I need to get one for everything .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} So yeah , so maybe something where you clap and then it beeps , something {vocalsound} {disfmarker} a kind of sound that you don't often hear on the T_V_ , you know ,
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: 'cause you don't want your remote control beeping every five minutes ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'cause you you'd then deliberately lose it by throwing it out the window or something .
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: So okay ? Cool . That's me . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Okay , that's great ,
Project Manager: That's you , excellent .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Um that's very good ,
Industrial Designer: thanks .
Project Manager: Um .
User Interface: very interesting .
Project Manager: I'm just gonna tick yes . So , we've got about ten , fifteen minutes to discuss
Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound} I think one of the very interesting things that came up in um {vocalsound} uh Ka Kate Cat Cat's uh presentation was um {vocalsound} uh this this issue of uh uh like voice recognition being more popular with uh younger people .
Marketing: Cat's . Ca {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: So if we need to have a target group um then uh {vocalsound} I think as far as the m motto of our company is concerned , if we want to have something sleek and uh you know , good looking uh we are better off targeting a younger audience then um you know , people who are comparatively elderly . Um .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah , I mean that's the thing is that it didn't say in the survey , you know , whether , you know , these are the people that will pay more for a more stylish remote control ,
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: but I'm assuming , you know , yes .
Industrial Designer: Right . Bu but but the survey did say that f things like voice recognition are more popular with them ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so if you want to put in something stylish , then uh th it'll certainly be more popular with this i ye with the younger people as compared to older people ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: yeah .
Project Manager: Then again I guess the th where it was most popular was the fifteen to twenty five bracket
Industrial Designer: Right , and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and the {disfmarker} I don't know how often they're buying televisions .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Right . Mm .
Marketing: Well , that's when you go to uni , isn't it ? So , you know {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't have much money , generally .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah ,
Project Manager: I would've thought it's it's more that twenty five to thirty five , when people are really moving out and they've got their first job and they want their nice toys and {disfmarker}
User Interface: you share a television or something that {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But uh still , if if you can go back to that slide and uh , how popular was it ?
Project Manager: O oh it's on {disfmarker}
Marketing: Oh , I've unplugged it .
Project Manager: sorry , we unplugged it .
Industrial Designer: Oh , oh , okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Do you want me to {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Here , let me {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That's alright , if you can just look it up on your computer , wh uh um people between twenty five to thirty five , uh how popular was {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Seventy six point three percent .
Industrial Designer: so it was sti still still quite popular amongst them .
User Interface: It was seventy something , yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: So even they are seventy six percent , is that high amount ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah , I kn I mean I know what you're saying about the fifteen to twenty five year olds ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: but I mean it has been proven that that people of that age group have a higher disposable income because they don't have like {disfmarker} I mean , you know , if you're at university , you're paying your rent ,
Project Manager: Yeah , they've got no commitments and
Marketing: but you don't have a mortgage , you don't have a life insurance policy ,
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: you don't normally have a car ,
Project Manager: usually not a car and all of those things .
Marketing: yeah , so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: You're still learning to drive actually ,
Project Manager: Kids . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So you're more likely to b
Marketing: so that just costs more than a car ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} but yeah . Um so I mean like it is an age group to target , really , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah , and if we're if we're talking twenty five Euros as a price , that's not unaffordable , even for young people .
Marketing: No , I mean that's what , that's like fifteen Pounds ? You know , I think {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah this this is not {vocalsound} unaffordable ,
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: but the problem is whether people need it , whether they do have a T_V_ {vocalsound} to use its full {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I d I don't know many people without a T_V_ . We didn't have a T_V_ last year ,
Project Manager: But do they {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and everyone thought we were off our heads , you know .
Project Manager: But the T_V_s are often kind of someone's old T_V_ that's blah blah
User Interface: Common , the students {disfmarker} yeah , yeah . The s the stu
Project Manager: and be a bit strange to have a fancy {vocalsound} rome remote .
User Interface: yeah , and the remote control might not {disfmarker} yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Mm
User Interface: it might not even function with the old T_V_ .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Bu but even even in the case of twenty five to thirty five it's quite popular , right ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , I d well we've we've got quite a d decent T_V_ .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: So mm uh are are are {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: we're still {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Or w maybe we can just kind of uh uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think I think the fact that , you know , ninety one point two percent of fifteen to twenty five year olds are saying yes , I would pay more for a voice recognition remote control , does say quite a lot really .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: You know , so I mean that and the disposable income and {disfmarker} I don't think it's something to ignore , you know .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , but at the same time I think maybe we can we can just decide to to have both of these groups as our target ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: because actually I mean they're all still re young people .
Marketing: Is not a massive difference , you know . No , do totally .
Project Manager: Yeah , if we ta if we take fifteen to thirty five ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: but that then does imply that we should try and incorporate voice recognition .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Um {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Is that gonna have a {disfmarker} an implication for the technical specs ?
Industrial Designer: I was having a a general outlook on um m most like sophisticated features , but voice recognition itself I'm not very sure about , because one of the p uh things that Cat pointed out was uh uh how do we go about implementing it ? Uh and uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: You do have it in your mobile phone though , don't you ? Because you have like {disfmarker} I mean every mobile phone now has like call this person and it calls them .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . But how frequently do we use it anyway
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and um uh h ho how good is it ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: you know uh voice recognition softwares are still quite uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know .
Project Manager: Yeah . With um {disfmarker} but with a T_V_ remote it's gonna be quite limited if we're t saying the main things people want to do is on off channel five ,
User Interface: An
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: S so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: louder ,
Industrial Designer: Right . Okay .
Project Manager: tha that should be relatively simple .
Industrial Designer: O {vocalsound}
Marketing: y you'd maybe need a code word . Do you know what I mean ?
Industrial Designer: Right .
Marketing: So like when you say change , except that's {vocalsound} being said quite a lot on T_V_ ,
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: so maybe like , you know , remote . I mean how often do people say remote on T_V_ ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Marketing: Although I only watch Charmed , so really {vocalsound} I wouldn't know
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: but like so you'd just say remote five , you know , remote ten , remote one two nine .
Industrial Designer: Right . Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Okay , so it seems like a feasible thing to implement uh for for a limited
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , but maybe if you wanna look into that just to just to check .
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: Um , so if we go for the the fifteen to thirty five age group and then of course we're going to get th anyone who's older than thirty five who wants to look young and hip and trendy and has the money ,
User Interface: Yeah but uh um {disfmarker} Yeah , yeah sure , yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: then they'll they'll still go for the same advertising .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I don't think there's a lot of uh voice recognition remote controls .
User Interface: Yeah , w well now the v the voice recognition if if it works wonderfully w we could possibly do away with all buttons , but I think this is not really the right moment yet , because people are just so used to buttons
Project Manager: Yeah ,
User Interface: and um , yeah it's it's kind of safer , so we we need both ,
Industrial Designer: Mm . W
Project Manager: I think we need both .
Industrial Designer: What uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: so the voice recognition would be just an extra , it wouldn't really reduce the size of the remote .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: What wh uh {vocalsound} what I was thinking is that there is this uh separation between what the channels are on T_V_ and how they are numbered on the remote control . If we can do with {disfmarker} away with that , our product can be really popular uh in the sense that uh a person can say , I want to watch uh I_T_V_ one instead of saying that I want to go onto channel number forty five .
Project Manager: Uh-huh . Uh-huh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , so if uh if something like that can be incorporated , {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , that would be another way to do it .
Project Manager: So that if that was in the the voice recognition , that would be great .
Industrial Designer: some kind of {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , but then the code word would be even more important , because {disfmarker} I mean Sky advertise on every channel , don't they , you know ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: so then it would be {disfmarker} you'd be watching Charmed , and then the Sky advert would come on and it would change to Sky .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Watch Sky and {vocalsound} yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: and that would be really annoying . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . But that's definitely a possibility .
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah but m but on the other hand , remote control isn't {vocalsound} as close to you you probably might just just uh speak into it
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: and and the T_V_ would be already further away , so it might not pick up the other things coming from there .
Marketing: Yeah . Do you not think that defeats the object of having voice recognition on a remote control though ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So that you can yell at it ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , you know , so you have to have the remote control .
Project Manager: yeah .
Marketing: It's more like if you lost it and it's down the sofa sometime , you can yell at it {vocalsound} and it'll just change it , you can look for it later , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Alright .
User Interface: Yeah , but then the remote control I think {disfmarker} I mean {vocalsound} um the idea is kind of {disfmarker} it's it's not that it's sitting there on on top of the television , because then you could already yell at the television and you wouldn't you you wouldn't need the remote control , so the remote control is still something you keep n near yourself .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , I suppose nearer to you but a b like if you have surround sound then {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah and it might become very difficult from a distance for the television to understand what you're saying because of the noise factor for the remote control
Project Manager: Mm . Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: being cl I mean it'll it'll {disfmarker} mm .
User Interface: No , but I I I was just defending the {vocalsound} the fact why why we want to keep the remote control close to us , a and uh not to yell at it from the distance .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm . So uh {vocalsound} wh another thing uh that can be used is that uh there can be a beeper button on the T_V_ ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so you can go and press that button and um and the remote control , wherever it is , it'll beep ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: so we we can probably come to know where it is .
Project Manager: That's {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: but then if you're buying the remote separately ,
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: but y {vocalsound} you could have something , but i if it was something that you could like stick onto the T_V_ or something ,
User Interface: Oh yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right , yeah , yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: some {disfmarker} like a two p if you bought it in a two part pack , so one part attaches to the T_V_ .
User Interface: Okay , yeah , mm-hmm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , 'cause it's it's quite important that you don't lose the the bit to locate the remote control .
Project Manager: The l
Industrial Designer: Alright , yeah .
Project Manager: Well that's right , but it solves the problem of having different noises .
Marketing: Yeah , definitely , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay , I think we're gonna have to wrap this up um . But if we go away with that that kind of general um {vocalsound} specification in mind that we're looking at fifteen to thirty five year olds , we want it to look simple , but still have the buttons so it's easy to use , but only those key buttons , the major buttons and then one sort of menu one , and then voice recognition included as an option
User Interface: The major ones , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: um but that obviously needs a little bit more working out as to whether it's really feasible and some of those problems we were mentioning um . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: What we have to do now is to go back to our little places , complete our questionnaire and some sort of summarisation , which y you'll get immediately by email . Send me your presentations so that I can use them to make the minutes , and then we've got a lunch break
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: and after lunch we go back to our own little stations and have thirty minutes more work .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um I'll put the minutes in that project documents folder , but I'll send you an email when I do it , so that you know .
Industrial Designer: So where exactly is this i
Project Manager: It should be on your desktop , so on the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Ah , okay .
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: So I'll put it {disfmarker} I'll put them there as soon as I've written them .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Did you find it ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah in that one ,
User Interface: It's just {disfmarker} yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: right yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , and email them round .
Marketing: Oh , so y you want our um PowerPoint presentations in there , hey ?
Project Manager: Yeah , that would be great .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Oh so so we'll just put them i there ,
Project Manager: Oh yeah , put them in there . Yeah ,
User Interface: we we {disfmarker} yeah , w we won't even {disfmarker} okay .
Marketing: There you go .
Project Manager: then you don't have to email them .
Marketing: But is everyone's called functional requirements ?
Industrial Designer: No .
Project Manager: No , they're all called something slightly different . Technical requirements and something something , yeah .
Marketing: Okay , so that's good .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: That's me done .
Project Manager: So , if you put them in there , we'll all be able to see them and refer to them if we need to .
Marketing: Okay , cool .
Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} as to where we're going from here , you're going to look at the components concept .
Industrial Designer: Right .
Project Manager: Yeah ? Whatever that means .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I guess I'll find out . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You'll be looking {vocalsound} you'll be looking at the user interface concept ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh something conceptual , yeah .
Project Manager: on something conceptual and you're watching trends to see how we go and surely voice recognition'll fall off the map or something that {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: um we'll keep keep our options op hmm ?
Industrial Designer: Wha what was it again that I was supposed to look into ? Con components , oh .
Project Manager: Components ,
User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: yeah .
User Interface: Sorry , but um the next meeting um are we going to have it um right after lunch or {vocalsound} shall we prepare our {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No , we have we have {disfmarker} after lunch we have thirty minutes to ourselves to prepare ,
User Interface: To prepare , okay , yeah , that's good .
Project Manager: so that's fine , w before lunch we just have to complete the questionnaire and some sort of summary .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Okay ? Right on time .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Cool . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , {vocalsound} so you can {disfmarker} I guess we'll see you for lunch in a sec ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay , see you .


Project Manager: Hello .
Marketing: Hey guys .
User Interface: Hi .
Industrial Designer: Hi .
Project Manager: Hi .
Industrial Designer: I see my bunny is still standing .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No one drawing it .
Project Manager: It's too beautiful .
User Interface: Yeah , true .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh I figured uh that much . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Too wicked .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: A minute please , my uh laptop is uh {disfmarker} oh , there it is , thank you . So welcome back . {vocalsound} At the functional design meeting um the plan is uh that uh each one of you , so not me but only you uh will uh present uh the the things you worked on uh the last uh half hour . I will uh take minutes and will put uh the minutes that I have uh at the end of the session in the shared folder . {vocalsound} Also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared folder now , so you can read that uh now or afterwards . Um {vocalsound} uh I had an email from the from the management board
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: uh , I don't know if you a al also uh received it , but there were four points uh which uh I think are very important . First one is uh they think that uh teletext teletext becomes outdated uh and internet will be the the main uh focus . {vocalsound} Uh second one is also important uh , because it's one of the discussion points of the previous session . Uh the remote control shou should onl only be used for the television , so it uh not gonna it's not gonna be a multi-purpose remote control , so uh that's one thing to keep in mind .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh second , and I think that's important for the Marketing uh Expert , uh the current uh customers uh are in the age group group of uh forty years and older , but with this uh new remote uh they uh will uh {disfmarker} would like to reach uh a group uh younger than uh forty . Uh and uh I think to keep in mind , but not really uh for now is that they uh want the the the slogan and the and the logo uh to uh to be recognised more in the remote .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So , we have uh forty minutes , so I think uh not more than ten minutes uh uh per presentation uh each , and please uh use uh all the the the facilities so that you have either SMARTboards , the the Word files , what you uh {disfmarker} whatever you want . So uh Tim , can you start ? Yeah ?
Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} 'Kay , welcome . I have some uh new findings on uh Marketing Expert level ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: which I will show you . {vocalsound} The method I used was um giving orders to our usability lab uh to do a questionnaire . Um {vocalsound} one hundred respondents were involved and my marketing uh department generated a report with a lot of results . Um , these were a couple of findings , first page of three . Um , we have three audiences of {disfmarker} two audiences , {vocalsound} I'm sorry . Uh the first one , this scale , from sixteen to forty five {gap} age . Uh the second one is from sixty four {disfmarker} uh forty six to sixty five . Um , as you can see here , the market share for the first audience is about sixty percent {disfmarker} um sixty five . Uh second audience audience is uh thirty five percent . Mm {vocalsound} and some interests from the from the age groups , uh it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy uh new technology stuff , like uh an L_C_D_ screen on the remote control , um speech recognition . I don't think that's uh really appropriate . Um , {vocalsound} and when you see uh the audience , the age is going up uh {disfmarker} Yeah , they don't really want it anymore , at least the new technologies . Second findings {vocalsound} out of the questionnaire um are the opinion {vocalsound} the opinions uh of the audience about current remote controls . First point is , seventy five percent of the users find the most repo remote controls very ugly , uh and eighty percent of the users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy . So that's maybe something for the User Interface uh Designer . Okay , third findings . According to the frequency of use versus importance investigation , um {vocalsound} following buttons are most important . Um , I will tell something about the way this uh this test was , yeah , done . Um , {vocalsound} persons were asked uh what the buttons were uh they use most , how much an hour ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: and uh in the second table the importance of those buttons . Um , when you multiply them , you get the {disfmarker} these three points . Switching channels , um yeah , that's pretty uh pretty normal , that's what you do with a remote control . Um the second , teletext , uh and the third , uh volume controls . Um , I think it's good uh that we know what the user want {disfmarker} wants , uh at least the these three points have to be uh very clear .
Project Manager: But it's strange that the the manage board {disfmarker} the management board said that the teletext will be uh outdated by the internet . So that that's strange .
Marketing: Yeah , okay . Yeah , okay , but uh at the moment uh teletext is {disfmarker} Yeah , th the best thing you can get uh on T_V_ , like getting information .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay . Yeah .
Marketing: So uh , when you ask people , what do they use , {vocalsound} they use teletext and not the internet on a remote control .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah , okay .
Marketing: That's ridiculous . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: That's a ne i it {disfmarker} It's a new technology ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: but it's not incorporated right now . Okay , my personal preferences . Um , I think we should aim at the uh audience from sixteen to forty five . {vocalsound} Mm , first of all um it's the biggest share , the biggest audience , sixty five percent . Uh second , I think you will get the most revenue from i from it . Um , yeah , people from sixteen to forty five watch a lot of T_V_ , more than uh people who are el uh elder . Um {vocalsound} second point , {vocalsound} we have to impro improve the most used functions , as I said here , switching channels , teletext and volume controls . Third point um that came out of the uh {disfmarker} of the questionnaire , uh people used to uh get lost off the remote controller , so maybe it's an idea for us uh to design ex kind of placeholder uh on side of the , yeah , of the T_V_
Project Manager: Yeah , that's a cool idea .
Marketing: where you can put the the remote control in . {vocalsound} Um , that's about it , I think . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: When you mentioned uh improving functions , what uh what do you mean by that what what are you think about ?
Marketing: Uh not not the r not the functions ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh , the funtionability .
Marketing: but uh it came out that a lot of buttons weren't even used uh on a remote control . So you can have a remote control full of buttons , a hundreds hundreds of buttons , but if you don't use them , yeah it's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Ah okay , so focusing more on the used buttons .
Marketing: Yeah , they have to be on it
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: j just to t to get it done if necessary ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: but um the most used buttons uh have to be bigger or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Could you use perhaps uh one button for multiple functions , like example pressing it in longer makes it switch to an different function for example .
Marketing: Yeah , perhaps .
Industrial Designer: Thank you .
Marketing: Just for the minor functions perhaps .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , ma perhaps , just just an idea .
Marketing: Just to get less buttons on the remote control , to make it easier and quicker to learn .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah ? 'Kay , that's it .
Project Manager: Thank you , Tim . {vocalsound} Janus , can you uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh yeah yeah , I'll go , sure . Right uh , I'll be uh explaining a bit about uh working design about uh the project . Well uh what I did was I dissected uh uh current remote controls and um I viewed how how they w looked , how they worked , uh what kind of components are involved , and how they are connected together . And uh after that I put up a scheme about how uh these things are organised and I'll show it to you in in a in a few seconds . And I'll explain a bit about uh how it works and how we could uh build one and why I think several possibilities uh that we discussed in the earlier meeting falls off . Um right . Uh well what I did was uh I I checked uh remote controls and the uh remote controls of today are all infrared , not like all probably know . And the thing about that is um the remote controls uh have to act as a T_V_ or uh a stereo or something , and those uh have a transmitter that's also focused on infrared , so if we want to uh build uh mm a remote control uh with Bluetooth for instance then uh the T_V_ should have Bluetooth too in order to communicate , so that would mean extra cost for the user and thus uh that's that wouldn't mean a a cheap uh remote control for us . So that's probably why most controls are still infrared . Furthermore they all have uh a a very simple structure , so that would probably uh mean lower costs and uh i that could mean for us a good thing uh 'cause uh well we we should be able to build a relatively cheap uh {gap} a cheap uh remote . Well uh as I mentioned ready , we have some Bluetooth {disfmarker} Well it may be possible , but uh I figured it wouldn't be possible in {disfmarker} within our budget , but that's not for me to decide , but that's maybe something for marketing to look into . F because uh {disfmarker} well my personal opinion is uh is not to do uh Bluetooth {gap} or or radio waves , {vocalsound} although {disfmarker}
Marketing: What do you think about uh incorporating Bluetooth or a radio uh receiver uh in the place-holder next to the T_V_ , connected to the T_V_ ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , actually I have t
Marketing: So it's in the wrong product .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , I actually {disfmarker} I figured that would be that would be rather nice , but then you'd still have the uh {disfmarker} the infrared function . So in in theory you'd actually just move the problem ,
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but uh what I did uh think about was when you mentioned about the uh the cup-holder , is why not uh introduce a speech function like where is the remote . If somebody says , where is the remote , then it goes uh beep uh beep beep beep or something ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I dunno , maybe uh maybe something to look into , I dunno uh what the cost {gap} that something like that would be . But it may be uh may be something to explore . Uh I'll I'll just explain a bit of the components . Uh first you have the energy source . The energy source would be a battery , simple uh battery uh that you can find anywhere . I figured that would be best , 'cause when the battery uh stops functioning uh we could just uh use {disfmarker} you could just go out and buy a new one . So we didn't {disfmarker} and we don't have to do all uh {disfmarker} to be too complicated about that . Uh the energy source is connected to the infrared button , but uh the infrared button uh works only via the chip and the subcomponent to uh the switch {disfmarker} there is a switch uh between these . When the switch is pressed in a w on this this case it switches a button , when a button is prush pushed in , uh a electric current goes through here , and in uh {disfmarker} immediately , a l a bulb lights up uh displaying to the user that something has happened . That's uh that's so the h user won't be um thinking , well uh did the button be pressed , w what happened uh . Or I press button but nothing's happening on the T_V_ , so is is something wrong or something . So that's just to uh to to explain the {disfmarker} of {disfmarker} to to uh make it clearer to the user . Uh w well the signal goes via chip that's translated into uh electric sig uh electronic signals and then it's processed and then it's sent to the infrared bulb where it will be uh uh received on the receiving end . And those uh interpreted by the device , well in this case the television . Uh well my personal preferences here , well we have to keep it simple . Not too many uh gadgets and functions , just like you said uh {disfmarker} well the most users n uh you have a lot of buttons and you u u use {disfmarker} you don't use them , so why why should we invent uh {disfmarker} w spend more time on those . Uh I I think we should stick by {disfmarker} with infrared transmitting and uh no receiving . So uh no input from the television . So I think we shouldn't be uh spending time on um teletext and st things like that , because when you uh want teletext on uh infrared you'd have to build in a receiver too , and so in order to receive the signals from uh what's on T_V_ and such . So I figure that would be uh spending too much money and time and {disfmarker}
Marketing: Um , yeah , maybe another problem uh , I think current T_V_s can even send infrared .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but what should we uh s I I I f I agree with you , but should we spend money or {disfmarker} and time on building a receiver into the uh remote control ?
Marketing: Huh .
Industrial Designer: 'Cause that would be {disfmarker} I mean extra components , extra designs , um larger g uh remote control .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: These all uh all stuff that we have to take in account .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So I I {disfmarker} my personal opinion is no no no receiver at all . Um , well
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: we should uh look into the design and the functionability . Like I said , uh use one button for instance for m multiple functions , or well uh just hide the few buttons o of switching it open or something , the usual uh {gap} stuff . And uh don't overbuild , we shouldn't make a big uh remote control for simple functions , but we we should stick to the basics . So that was my uh my personal opinion . And that was my uh my presentation uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , thank you Janus .
User Interface: Okay . Yes ,
Project Manager: You do ?
User Interface: I can go ahead .
Project Manager: The last presentation . You have plenty of time ,
User Interface: Last presentation . Okay .
Project Manager: Tim and uh Janus don't uh talk to ten minutes ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: so uh take your time .
User Interface: {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: If you take your time too long I will uh eventually uh
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: warn you .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Well , I'm going to give a presentation abut some of the technical functions of these design and uh usability functions .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Um what's my opinion about what's most important to combine the design , technical possibilities and the user friendliness in one , so if you um going to design a remote that looks good , that shouldn't weigh over the uh {disfmarker} if it's possible to make , of course , but also the user friendliness , so tha that's that's some of the main points . And another one is um the use um of many functions will will make it more difficult , so use as as little functions as possible or at least don't display them all at once on the same remote . If you have fifty functions you don't want fifty buttons uh t uh to be shown at the same time ,
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: 'cause when you visit an internet uh site you don't want fifty links uh to see , but maybe use a hierarch hierarchy uh structure . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: And uh well one of the ideas was maybe uh use touch screen , but s I don't know in how far that is possible ,
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: since we are sticking to uh um infrared and and the remote cannot receive anything , but uh we might uh consider that . Um well , of course I I hope this is all clear to you . If you {disfmarker} you can use remote like this with all the functions , {gap} many functions , but {disfmarker} Well , your thumb is a little bigger than th it than this . You have to be very careful what you push ,
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: and um if you're looking for teletext you'll be uh searching for half an hour from uh um {disfmarker} yeah well , where is it ? Where the hell {disfmarker} he here I guess and , yeah , when you have to uh use something else . So just keep it simple , make clear buttons , easy to use . For example if you want to use a play and back and stop , that's very important . Um well this was because of our last discussion , if multiple machines are used , create easy switch between the machines , but um it's no longer uh applying . {vocalsound} Well yeah , I prefer to use it only for T_V_ and um n uh not to give too many options and and if possible , uh the buttons should give {vocalsound} a dr direct action , not first select {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Uh you you just said um uh you wanted to to combine more functions in one , so uh
User Interface: Yeah ,
Project Manager: you you want to keep it simple ,
User Interface: and so that's where the difficulties lie .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: but I think that if you want to do that , then you can't escape the the fact that there will be buttons uh which give s uh more options than one .
User Interface: Yeah , this {disfmarker} so that's the thing you have to weigh against each other .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Do we want to use a few options and might not be so or original , or uh multi-purpose as we thought ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay .
User Interface: or do we want to use um many buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: So um weighing those factors .
Marketing: Hmm {gap} it's maybe an option uh if you use an L_C_D_ {vocalsound} or a touch screen um , that in the middle are the the main keys , like displayed on the {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh yeah .
User Interface: The {gap} doesn't {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} . Yeah , this ? No ? Yeah . {vocalsound} Something like that . Okay , just uh in the middle the general functions , like play , uh channel switching ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and then uh at the top or at the bottom , some menus like uh settings or {disfmarker} that you can drop down .
User Interface: Yeah , but when all the questions I had {disfmarker} Do we want to use uh a menu display on the T_V_ ? Or um does have to f everything uh be in remotes ? 'Cause if you use a memory display on the T_V_ , you can simply push uh a more menu and then select the options you want to have and press okay .
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Uh so that's my recommendation , if you use many options in one buttle {disfmarker} button , um display the menu on the T_V_
Marketing: Nah . Mm-hmm .
User Interface: and don't um use combination of t of two buttons at the same time or pressing buttons three times for five seconds ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: is too complicated for most users .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , but {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think so too , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} and that's partly because um uh a lot of T_V_s have different menus , and when you have a particular menu uh at your device , uh it could be that don't correspond to the menu what's actually on T_V_ .
User Interface: Yeah , that will be a problem .
Industrial Designer: Well
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: you d you have to {gap} keep in mind that uh several T_V_s uh don't even have a menu structure , or they have a very simple menu structure , so you have to keep in mind that not all uh d not {disfmarker} our remote won't be able to work on all televisions .
User Interface: Yes .
Industrial Designer: And that would be uh a considerable problem .
User Interface: So if we have to stick with current technologies and uh um well yeah , the restrictions of what's uh is on the market today , um you should keep it s at this .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Use big clear buttons . Not too many . So maybe we'll loose a few option uh options , but I think i this is more important . Um {vocalsound} especially the important buttons , um if you want to switch channel , change your volume , uh use teletext , it uh it has to work at once and more advanced options may be put it s somewhere away on the remote , behind uh a little uh little thing or a touch screen .
Industrial Designer: Not embed Yeah , but then with something like a touch screen could {disfmarker} could make more menu up {disfmarker} pop up or something .
User Interface: And yeah , if you want to uh uh s put {gap} on stand-by or change the channel , that should always be possible to do . Not first change menu options or switch something .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Um , well yeah , as you already told , give some feedback . If the user is pushing a button he should know if the television or n at least remote is reacting and not just that the batteries may be low .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: And um , well , my conclusion is uh is uh less is more , keep it simple . So uh maybe we should just ease down on the functionality to uh to keep it accessible on t because you all know , if there are a lot of function {gap} on the the television , some you you'll never know uh and never use , and therefore it's uh important
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: if you want to change the volume or channel that is always accessible and easy and other functions um that are not so important {disfmarker} um well you {disfmarker} we should consider just not using them or at least putting them somewhere on the remote where they're not in the way for the for the most important functions .
Marketing: Yeah . Uh , I think the idea uh about uh touch screen um is very good . Um , because recently uh I saw news item on T_V_ um about uh new telephones uh for elder people . Um , they have like a touch screen with uh really big pictures on it like uh uh call uh hang-up , um and that's a big ad advantage I think , because one the one hand uh you make the remote control compatible for elder users just by uh scaling up the pictures or something .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: It's uh very visual intended . {vocalsound} What was I to say more ?
User Interface: Maybe that's an option . Um keep the primary buttons visible . Uh make a remote that fits easily in the hands
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: and for some design issues uh well , put a logo on it and maybe use it uh in some aesthetic uh aesthetic form .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: But uh th the important buttons m make them always accessible and pushable and clear
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: and maybe use a touch screen , or if that's uh will become too difficult just uh like televi some o older telephones use a l uh maybe it's possible to to flip them open and uh just expand the number of options that are normally visible . Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah okay , but but if you pick the the idea , the left idea
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: then what's gonna be displayed on the touch screen ?
Industrial Designer: The extra functions .
User Interface: The extra functions , you uh you just see a menu from system functions or teletext functions , and you just choose one ,
Marketing: Yeah , but l like menu functions or {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: and then all all the options will become available
Marketing: Ah okay .
User Interface: and you just c s yeah t scroll through them .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wouldn't it be better to make just one big touch screen , uh one one small uh touch screen uh applet
Marketing: Yeah , I think so .
Industrial Designer: and uh I'll just make um {disfmarker} uh let's say fifteen buttons on it , and uh we have three of those , uh actually just uh menus with sub-menus , with {disfmarker} or sub-items , sub-functions .
User Interface: Well um
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: then I'd like to make a proposal .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: If you make one big touch screen ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes .
User Interface: use the same concept as here , keep the buttons always available
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: and use the lower part of the touch screen for the rest .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: like like the iPod idea that that we just saw .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: You just have a f a few selected buttons and uh a few menus , and with this idea you could actually make uh several {disfmarker} you can also improve uh later on .
User Interface: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Uh uh I think that will be great .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: So you think it's will be better to have a t kinda total touch screen .
Marketing: Yeah , I think so .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I wou I would actually go for the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Jirun ?
User Interface: Okay , I agree , but I think it's very important that they always um make the same buttons accessible , so use just for special options a part of the touch screen .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , of course .
User Interface: And so um an elder designer picks up th the {disfmarker} of
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: an elder parents or grandparent picks up the remote from the little child and who's all in the systems functions , you'll have to have the possibility to turn off the T_V_ or to switch the channel without um well using all the menu structures to get back to the primary functions .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I had another uh idea about maybe parental control . Um ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: like building in uh some kind of PIN code uh which allows uh parents to switch to all channels , uh
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: but children uh {disfmarker} if children don't don't know the PIN code , they can't switch to uh violent uh channels or {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah wh Is that possible to use or no ?
Industrial Designer: That is possible , that {disfmarker} well that actually depends on the television ,
Marketing: Th there's just {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , yeah well ,
Industrial Designer: but I think {disfmarker} I figure that would be {disfmarker}
User Interface: does it have to depend on the television ?
Marketing: Ju just a simple log-in , something like that .
Industrial Designer: Well ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: y you s you see the fi uh thing is when you buy a remote , you you set the uh channels , the the channels are different on each te television ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: they aren't set in a preset order ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: so uh if you uh lock on a remote , uh let's say channel fifteen , well channel fifteen on this television is different than channel fifteen on the other television ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yeah , okay .
Industrial Designer: so that would be uh that would be actually the main concern .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: Well , I think that he means that um maybe by some option uh {disfmarker} make sure that um remote control and the T_V_ match , and then after that you can um use some s insert some passwords as being apparent that the children cannot use this uh {disfmarker} change the settings of the T_V_ , like colour and then volume
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: and uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , th that kind of stuff , but maybe um if you log in first as a parent um , you address the the channels
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: and like uh oh , that's channel fifteen , that's uh vi violent channel ,
User Interface: Oh , something like that .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: uh m my ki my kids uh {disfmarker} I don't want my kids to watch that ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: then you set the priority to only parents ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Well b but make it a separate option in the menu ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that would b
Marketing: for example . But {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , that .
User Interface: so that it's it's dif dis displayed from uh {disfmarker} displayed here ,
Marketing: Yeah okay , but but {disfmarker} yeah , that's just
User Interface: so uh parents uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: that's an a an added feature .
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay . But let's not uh go too wide about the {disfmarker} those things , that's that why we're here .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , {vocalsound} th th those things are nice . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It's it's a nice idea , but I think that's we wel {vocalsound} later in the stage . I've one little question about um a total touch screen or uh um a p
Marketing: Partial .
Project Manager: yeah , a partial , uh because I think uh elderly people may be uh not used to uh a touch screen , so they want the the the normal functions like teletext , volume changing , um uh to be uh , yeah , kinda traditionals
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: uh and uh {vocalsound} the the the the other functions , the more difficult functions uh to be uh maybe on the touch screen ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: but to keep this as uh normal as possible , to keep it accessible .
Marketing: Yeah , but but if you display it on L_C_D_ screen with r r really big numbers
User Interface: Yeah , you can de display it on the on the old style .
Marketing: that's just as e just as easy .
Industrial Designer: Uh . I I do {disfmarker}
User Interface: You can display actual buttons on the touch screens .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , that's true , that's true .
Industrial Designer: Uh I do agree ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: because well , it's just not the same when you touch a touch screen
User Interface: Yeah , okay .
Industrial Designer: or when you touch a button , but well we have to look at what's our target uh audience .
Marketing: Yeah , it's different .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: W we are aiming for younger people
Project Manager: Yeah , that's true , yeah .
Industrial Designer: and they they chose {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , age b below forty .
Project Manager: Yeah , yeah yeah , yeah , that's a good point . Yep .
Industrial Designer: So that's that's probably uh a {disfmarker}
Marketing: And th those young people , yeah . Y you saw it in my marketing report , they like the new fancy stuff ,
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . They like the fancy stuff , yeah . That's true .
Marketing: so {disfmarker} A touch screen , like Microsoft al already developed something like that for uh uh multi-media applications .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: I th I think we can do that too .
Project Manager: Mm {disfmarker} Yeah . Okay , as you can see uh the minutes from the second meeting , this one , are uh {vocalsound} are done .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Done . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh I've uh added the {disfmarker} this uh four things from the management board just to keep in mind .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um each time I uh I had a sort of uh summary on what you told and uh what you personal think . Uh so that can be uh can be read out . Uh a f a few things I uh I noticed uh were um {disfmarker} Moment . Ooh . Uh th the the main points in uh this uh uh in this uh meeting is I think uh how uh it's going to look uh with uh {disfmarker} we must keep it simple , but have the opportunity to uh have more options and have them uh hidden or something , so they don't {disfmarker} uh you don't have a big uh thing full of uh buttons or uh {disfmarker} um and uh the point that uh you uh wanna use one uh controller uh for uh uh hypothetically {vocalsound} each television , so you must uh the the the the functions , know , like the menus or the the parental control must be all uh by the {disfmarker} done by the remote control and not by the television . I think that's the point what uh
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: we discussed .
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , some of them . The menus uh are not identical for all th for all T_V_s , so you have to display it on one uh T_V_ .
User Interface: Well you can use um {disfmarker} when you {disfmarker} {vocalsound} uh how do you call it , s um synchronized , the um remote and the T_V_ ,
Marketing: Yeah , but that's not possible .
User Interface: then there's always , there are always uh possibilities to change the colour and the brightness and the volume
Marketing: Mm-hmm , mm yeah .
User Interface: and um well maybe we can look out if there's options that the remote um in its memory can see what kinda T_V_ it is , from {disfmarker} ah , it's a Philips , this and this and that , and then give the options that are capable {disfmarker} the {vocalsound} capable from the t
Project Manager: Yeah , but you have uh uh an {disfmarker}
Marketing: Add th that that's an opportunity {gap} .
Project Manager: yeah , but you have an international market range , so you have I think a big range of {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well there are universal d um um remotes
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: and they all have a functionality for all the T_V_s , uh so this wouldn't be a extra feature to incorporate the men menus of these .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But they {disfmarker}
Marketing: But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And it's not too complex to do it .
User Interface: {gap}
Industrial Designer: Well they uh they all have to be programmed to fit your T_V_
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and that that is bit of a tricky job .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I actually use one of those when {disfmarker} They are they are kinda kinda troublesome , but but the thing is whe when you uh start uh building something like this you have to build a receiver into the uh t into the remotes , because uh in order for the remote to process something from the T_V_ , like uh to synchronise and you have to send and receive ,
User Interface: Yeah . Well {disfmarker} Yeah . Mm-hmm . Oh um mo
Industrial Designer: and that's well {disfmarker}
Marketing: No no no .
User Interface: no , you can just say uh the c
Marketing: {vocalsound} He he he he me he means just just one other thing .
Project Manager: Just build it in .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Uh , with the current remote controls , the universal ones , um you have to press {disfmarker} yeah , you have to press a code for T_V_ .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yes .
User Interface: In codes , y you you get a b a book with codes . You look up , I have a Philips H_ fifty five
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: and it says press code four five five
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh , okay , yeah , sure , uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: and you press code four five five on the {disfmarker} uh in the remote
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah yeah .
User Interface: and it displays all your uh menu options .
Industrial Designer: Oh , yeah yeah , sure , that would be possible , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Now we uh just connect uh the T_V_ type uh to a set of options , in {disfmarker} just just in the memory ,
User Interface: Memory in the in the remote .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Profiles .
Marketing: so that if you {disfmarker} yeah , like profile , so that if you uh touch in like uh one four one zero kind of T_V_ uh
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: the memory uh pops up the options .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , that would be possible . Yeah , sure .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: I th don't think that's uh {disfmarker} that takes a lot of storage space or some just varia variables .
Industrial Designer: No , that wouldn't be uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , well um
Industrial Designer: Yeah , a few variables .
User Interface: if you look at the um manuals from universal uh remotes , there are maybe um three four hundreds T_V_s at maximum . If you have all of them , all the old and new T_V_s summed up ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: so uh I think uh it is possible {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Ah it is . It is definitely po
Marketing: But , on the other hand on the other hand , uh if you have a remote and buy a new T_V_ that isn't incorporated in the remote {disfmarker}
Project Manager: We have five minutes to go .
User Interface: Yeah . Well then you have to buy a new one , it's very good for marketing
Marketing: New remote ?
User Interface: Maybe , or an update , software update .
Marketing: A firmware upgrade or something ,
User Interface: Firmware update , you say .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , firmware upgrade .
Marketing: but from where ? Ah . Maybe w
Industrial Designer: That's maybe the cup holder .
Marketing: No m may no ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: maybe we can incorporate some kind of uh U_S_B_ or a firewire connection , so that you can uh connect it to the P_C_ and download the newest firmware from uh from the internet .
Industrial Designer: Well , not everybody has uh has uh a P_C_ at home . Well the most most people have ,
User Interface: Well , at {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but not not everybody
User Interface: uh you can go back to the shop
Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
User Interface: and uh they {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: like a s kind of service centre .
User Interface: Yeah , ser o
Industrial Designer: Yeah , maybe something like service cen
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: and they can download it for you .
Industrial Designer: Or you could {disfmarker} well you could s actually look at the place-holder you talked about earlier ,
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: and you could probably uh make a connection to uh an telephone line or a internet connection .
User Interface: Yeah . Well already digital information is sent t to the the standards , T_V_ uh connections ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: you can see what's uh programme is on on the new uh channels , so maybe j they {disfmarker} we can send that information along with standard T_V_ uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Well then then it's be uh back to the building a receiving uh {disfmarker} well uh if it's actually worth it to build it in ,
User Interface: Receiving . Oh yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: we could actually look at {disfmarker} into it ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker} I dunno , it it would be uh bringing more costs {gap} uh with with it
User Interface: Difficult . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: I I think it's uh most cheap or cheapest to just do the updates uh at the service centre or at the shop .
User Interface: Yeah yeah , uh s I think some {disfmarker} I think it's good idea , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that would be probably best , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Like when you when you buy a T_V_ you just ask {disfmarker} well I'll {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's it's it's not a lot of work , just one uh docking station where you put it in ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: press start , bling bling , updated .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , that would be best , yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} You don't buy a T_V_ every week , new teev so .
User Interface: Okay , let's uh save this in the meanwhile uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No no . Exactly , so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Um m for which one are we going ? {gap} My mistake .
Marketing: Let's vote .
User Interface: That one or uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah , my vote goes out to the right {gap} .
User Interface: Your vote and your {disfmarker}
Marketing: My vote too .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: And your vote ?
User Interface: Well , I was uh doubting about which one to take , but uh you've convinced me that uh if you di display buttons about the same as they would look on a normal um remote all elderly people will know what to do .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: And also like a clapping uh li like device that uh pops open .
User Interface: Opens up is too difficult
Industrial Designer: Flips open .
User Interface: or uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh too difficult , um maybe uh it's easier to break it .
Project Manager: N yeah .
User Interface: Break it , I don't get {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , th th th that i uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: It's very sensitive .
User Interface: Oh so {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Like my telephone , it's uh it's sensitive too .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay well uh it's almost at the end . So we have now a lunch break , finally ,
Marketing: Ah .
Project Manager: yeah . {vocalsound} Uh after the lunch break uh it's back to uh individual work , once again uh thirty minutes . Uh I will put my minutes {disfmarker} uh I have updated them so uh s they're updated in the shared folder too .
Marketing: Thirty minutes ?
Project Manager: Thirty minutes , the {disfmarker}
Marketing: How minutes ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Failure . Uh {vocalsound} uh the specifi uh specific instructions for the next uh meeting you will {disfmarker} all will receive uh at the uh the the email . I don't think I can uh say much about it , so uh uh wait for your email and uh hopefully you get it done uh in the in the thirty minutes , and I w will see you after the lunch break and the thirty minutes .
Marketing: One question ,
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Marketing: uh how late do we have to get back {disfmarker} be back here ?
Project Manager: Uh well uh thirty minutes .
User Interface: A quarter to one maybe ?
Project Manager: Uh , yeah .
Marketing: Thirty minutes lunch break ?
Project Manager: Thirty minutes lunch break , yeah . Oh . Forty five ?
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: I thought forty five .
Project Manager: Uh then would it be uh one o'clock .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Okay .
Project Manager: Or we we ask our personal coach . Okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Thank you . Thank you , uh that was a very uh good session I think ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Project Manager: we uh we {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , is it possible to store this on the share documents or what {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , me too .
Project Manager: Uh ye well {disfmarker}
Marketing: Save as .
Project Manager: Yeah , because uh all uh things are uh stored in smart board dot uh X_D_K_
Marketing: Yeah , v
Project Manager: and that's in {disfmarker}
Marketing: But but you can open a {disfmarker} from your pr from your laptop .
User Interface: 'Kay , save it as an image on the res
Marketing: Yeah , maybe . Save as .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: Export . Maybe not export function .
Marketing: No . Export .
Project Manager: Well I can I can uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Export H_T_M_L_ .
User Interface: No , and use an image if possible .
Marketing: Huh , image ?
User Interface: J_ PEG .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} G_ {disfmarker} yeah , J_ PEG .
User Interface: J_ PEG . Yeah , it's better
Marketing: Paper size A_ four . Uh screen size . In this directory .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: N oh .
User Interface: Oh yeah , it's not connected to the
Project Manager: You all uh have the the questionnaire again about uh the after work .
User Interface: to our P_C_s .
Marketing: No ? Yeah , it is connected .
User Interface: It's connected ?
Marketing: Yeah , I think so .
Project Manager: Deskt Huh . No .
Industrial Designer: To room . I'll just uh saved in my documents .
Marketing: Oh . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah {vocalsound} in my own uh {disfmarker} in my own messenger .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Project documents , yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: It gives the na Oh . Yes .
Project Manager: Okay ,
Industrial Designer: Okay , nice .
Project Manager: thank you .
User Interface: The questionnaire , fill in {disfmarker} uh we fill out d after lunch or uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Uh well , it's it's simply filling {disfmarker} oh no , it's uh it's also filling out {disfmarker} no , I'd do it after lunch I think .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Aye , cheers .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I'm hungry , so do it after lunch .
User Interface: Yes .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Thank you all .
Marketing: Thank you .
Project Manager: You're welcome .
User Interface: We can leave the P_C_ on I think , yeah and return to the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , of course .
Project Manager: Yeah . Well I bring it to my uh personal room .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , bring to {disfmarker} I gotta bring it home .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Marketing: To my exave executive {disfmarker}
Project Manager: My executive uh big room with the with the panting . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} A big office .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: Aye . Yeah . Okay .
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound} {gap}
Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}