User Interface: Hi .
Industrial Designer: Hi .
Project Manager: Hello .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh .
Project Manager: Good morning .
User Interface: Good morning .
Industrial Designer: Morning .
Marketing: Good morning .
Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in , uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother . So um {disfmarker}
Marketing: By Big Brother ?
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: This uh {disfmarker} These are cameras , so are these . This thing uh that looks like a pie ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: are actually all microphones .
Marketing: Yeah . Okay .
Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh with uh all this . And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be . And that has to do with the camera settings , so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras .
Marketing: Of our faces .
Project Manager: And {disfmarker} Indeed . So they can see our faces .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting . My name is uh Danny Wolfs . {vocalsound} Uh this is the agenda for today . Uh first a little opening . Uh I will introduce myself , uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself . Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance , acquaintance to uh to to ourselves . So uh we get to know each other . Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards . Then the project plan . What we're going to do , and how we're going to do it . Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end . {vocalsound} Okay uh , my name is uh Danny Wolfs . I'm the Project Manager . What's your name ?
User Interface: I'm Juergen Toffs . I'm the User Interface Designer .
Project Manager: User interface , okay .
Industrial Designer: Hi , my name's uh {gap} . I'm the Industrial Designer .
Project Manager: Industrial , yes .
Marketing: I'm uh Tim {gap} . Um my function is the Marketing Expert .
Project Manager: Okay , thank you . First a little about the project aim . Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control . Uh maybe you have read uh read the website . It's a very uh , yeah , very uh ambitious uh company . They uh they wanna do something else . I w Uh there must be a new remote control . Uh first of all uh it must be original , uh and trendy . That's two things really uh close to each other . But at the same time uh user-friendly . And they have uh {disfmarker} Yeah , that's uh very important uh for them . Uh there are three stages . There is a functional design . So uh what are we going uh to uh to do ? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote ? And why are we going to do it ? Then the conceptual design . How are going to do it ? {vocalsound} And that's uh really global . Uh because at the detailed design , how , part two , uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of {disfmarker} If it's uh it's possible technical-wise .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh each stage is uh {vocalsound} uh is broken up in two uh two stages , individual work and a meeting . So it's uh it's very straightforward . {vocalsound} Okay , the tool training . We have two smart boards . {vocalsound} This one is for the presentations , the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had . Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing . So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme . {vocalsound} This is called a smart board
Marketing: {vocalsound} Speaks for itself .
Project Manager: thing uh {disfmarker} Yeah , it speaks for itself . Um and as you uh may have heard , the documents in the shared folder uh can be uh showed on this screen . Not in y the the My Documents . So if you wanna show something , put it in the shared folder . {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} This uh is {gap} very straightforward , with the save , the print , the undo , the blank , the select , the pen . Well , I don't uh gonna explain it all ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: because I think you know uh how it works . Um we must not forget uh everything we draw on here , uh all must be saved . We we may not delete anything . So uh if you have uh drawn something , save it . Never delete it . That's a very important uh thing .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay . Uh little uh little {vocalsound} kinda exercise to uh know each other .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} At uh the white board on the left . Every uh every one of us uh must draw our favourite animal ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} and uh tell uh tell us why we uh had uh chosen that animal . Uh important is that we use different colours , {vocalsound} and uh different pen widths . Widths . Widths .
Marketing: I have a question .
Project Manager: Yes ?
Marketing: Um this exercise , um did the company board tell you to do it ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: or uh did you just make it up yourself ?
Project Manager: No no no . It's uh it's uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker} I I I must do it .
Marketing: It's part of the introduction ,
Project Manager: Yeah , yeah , yeah . 'Cause we uh really don't know each other ,
Marketing: okay .
Project Manager: and uh it's kinda new . So getting used to each other , we can uh have a little fun then , before we uh dig in really to the hard stuff .
Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That kind of thing . Would you start with drawing your uh favourite animal ?
Marketing: Um , yeah . I don't know really how it works . But maybe you can show us first ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , okay . Yeah , okay . Drawing goes with uh this thing . Do not touch your hand on uh this little uh thingy here . That's uh important .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So hold it uh like this .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: You g you get electrocuted or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , kinda . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So , {vocalsound} um {disfmarker} You must p p uh push a little uh {disfmarker} Good . Because {disfmarker} And uh wait uh wait a few seconds . It's not uh fully real-time , so uh watch it .
User Interface: Ach . {gap}
Project Manager: Oh yeah . Well I'm gonna paint in the red .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh .
User Interface: Ooph .
Project Manager: That's the background colour . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well , undo . Um {disfmarker} The pen ? No . One minute please . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , that's the one . Well , five . Okay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} My favourite animal huh ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: It's like Pictionary ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , you can guess what it is .
Marketing: The the one who says it first {vocalsound} gets a raise .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} May uh paint uh next .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: It's a pork ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} No , it's not an orc . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You don't see it uh at the ears ?
Marketing: Mm yeah , I have it at home . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You have an orc at home ?
User Interface: Very artistic .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Thank you .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So it's a cat . {vocalsound}
Marketing: What's it called ?
Project Manager: Simba . 'Cause uh we have a cat at home
Marketing: Ah .
Project Manager: and he's called Simba . 'Cause he looks like the uh the the lion from The Lion King .
User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Miniature size ?
Project Manager: So we uh found it kinda cool to uh name it after a lion .
Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: He's happy with us , so uh he's smiling .
User Interface: Wow . He does have body uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Huh .
Project Manager: No , only the face . Because we have we have twen twenty five minutes . So we uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Okay . We have to speed up .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Remember you use uh different colours , and different pen widths .
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay , who wants to go next ?
Marketing: I {disfmarker} Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So choose a colour , choose a pen width and draw a {disfmarker}
User Interface: You don't have to change the colour and the pen width during uh the drawing .
Marketing: Save it .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Or {disfmarker}
Marketing: You have to save it .
Project Manager: Save it , okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I've done it . New ? 'Kay .
User Interface: You have to draw uh push hard on the pen or uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Mm uh {disfmarker} Not really .
Project Manager: Kind of firm touch .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That one .
User Interface: Oh . Uh hmm .
Marketing: Yeah ? Okay . Open . Which one is it ? Smart board ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay . And now ? Okay . Okay , thanks . 'Kay , I've speed up . 'Kay , that's fine . Line width .
Industrial Designer: By the way , why was your cat uh red ?
Project Manager: Because uh my cat is red uh at home .
User Interface: Oh .
Industrial Designer: Oh , okay . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And I have red hair , so uh must be red .
User Interface: It's a very bloody cat .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh , yeah , sure .
User Interface: It's a frog . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No , it's a turtle . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh it's an apple . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} It's not an apple .
Industrial Designer: Must be a dog . {vocalsound}
User Interface: A dog ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Hmm . Colour . {vocalsound} Something like this . Smaller .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Huh ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh , it is a turtle .
Project Manager: It is a turtle . Why a turtle ? Why ? Tim ?
Marketing: Um {disfmarker} 'Cause I liked Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} You watched it a lot ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh ?
Project Manager: You watched it a lot ?
User Interface: It's uh inside its shell . You'll be uh finished sooner .
Marketing: No , it's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's a scared turtle .
Marketing: No no . {vocalsound} It's coming up . Mm . Uh .
User Interface: Wow .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , Tim . Thank you . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Something like this . {vocalsound} Okay , you know {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Very artistic .
Project Manager: Jurgen , you want to go next ?
User Interface: Yes {gap} . Okay . Wha Thank you .
Marketing: Yeah ? Here you go .
User Interface: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: How did it work ?
Project Manager: Format ? And then you have the the current colour ,
User Interface: Performance ?
Project Manager: you can change . So no red or green .
User Interface: And a pen ?
Project Manager: And uh line uh width . I had five .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Tim had {disfmarker} Uh Tim , what kinda line width did you have ?
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh the big lines were like nine .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay . It's a dog .
User Interface: Well , very good . {vocalsound} I just uh thought I'd pick the easiest one .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh .
Project Manager: Okay . Why a dog ? You have a dog at home ?
User Interface: Well , we had a dog , a few years ago .
Project Manager: Had a dog ?
Marketing: Uh , it's p
Project Manager: Yeah ?
User Interface: And and it , {gap} yeah , when it died we didn't get a new one or something .
Project Manager: Ah .
User Interface: But uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's pretty good uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You have an artistic uh inner middle .
Marketing: {gap} {vocalsound} An artist .
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh a Graphical User Designer , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
User Interface: Hey .
Marketing: Think you uh picked the wrong uh function . Wrong job .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: No . Can work together . Ah colour .
Project Manager: So I think you can see it's real uh really a easy programme to use . Not difficult at all .
Marketing: Wha
User Interface: {vocalsound} Well ,
Project Manager: Okay ,
User Interface: it's okay {gap} .
Project Manager: thank you . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} That's enough ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: thanks . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Janus ? The last one ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , sure .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Uh thanks .
Marketing: I wonder .
Project Manager: Yeah . After a cat , a turtle and a dog .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I think he's gonna draw an elephant . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I figure I should do something like that ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but I'm gonna do something much more difficult .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh-oh .
User Interface: Uh-oh . Oh , he is the artistic {gap} design .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I'm gonna design a remote uh {vocalsound} remote control animal . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Remote control animal .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Exactly . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Sorry .
User Interface: Well with the interface , it might be easier to ha to draw here and display there uh .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {gap}
Marketing: That that might be easier . But at the other hand , uh a pen like that is easy to hold in your hand , and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: I think it's easier to draw .
Project Manager: Better to draw with a with {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . With a pen than with a mouse mouse .
User Interface: Than on the , with {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , I m I mean like uh like on here , drawing drawing uh . And then displaying on screen , but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mouth . Oh , okay . Yeah . W with this paper it's too mu too expensive . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: But what is he uh ?
User Interface: Too expensive , yeah .
Project Manager: Is it a rabbit ?
Industrial Designer: Yes . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Do you have a rabbit at home ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: It's a rabbit with uh broken legs ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: A green rabbit .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Is it a white rabbit f It's the white rabbit from The Matrix .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , exactly . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , then yeah .
User Interface: There , the g white green rabbit .
Industrial Designer: So .
User Interface: {vocalsound} He's a little bit stoned there . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh I figured this is a pretty b good impression of a rabbit .
Marketing: Yeah . It will do .
Industrial Designer: Uh uh {disfmarker} Uh well .
Project Manager: Okay . Finishing touch and then we're going further .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Project Manager ? Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: Where does the pen go ? Just uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Have you been uh counting the time ?
Project Manager: Yeah , a little . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Okay . Let's go on then .
Project Manager: Well , I think the dog is the the most uh artistic .
Industrial Designer: Uh I figured the rabbit was actually the most uh impressive . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Don't choose for youself .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh , sorry . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: That's selfish . Okay , now we're gonna dig into the to the serious stuff .
Marketing: It's pretty abstract .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh the selling price for the remote will be uh twenty five Euro , and the production cost uh may not be more than uh twenty and a half Euro . So uh from my point of view , I don't think it's uh gonna be very uh very high tech , high definition , uh ultra modern uh kinda remote , for twelve uh fift uh twelve and a half Euro .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh the profit we must make with uh the new remote is uh fifty million Euro . So that's a lot . We have to sell uh a lot of uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , how much is it ?
Marketing: Like how much ?
User Interface: Hundred million uh remotes or something ?
Project Manager: Uh I think uh w when the selling price is twenty five , uh uh you got two million , two million remotes .
User Interface: Oh yeah .
Industrial Designer: Twenty million . Two million , oh yeah , two million . Yeah .
Project Manager: But our marketing range is uh , market range is international . So we have uh virtually the whole world we can sell uh we can sell our r remotes to . At least that uh countries which have uh a television .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Um {disfmarker} So now it's time uh for us to uh going uh to discuss a little uh things . You can think about uh experience with a remote control uh yourself , at home . What you think might be uh a useful uh new feature . What uh what can distinguish our new trendy remote control from all the others . Um so uh let's uh let's uh discuss a little . I'm gonna join you at the table . {vocalsound} Well what what's the most uh important thing at a remote control ?
User Interface: Um well I think the most important thing of a remote control is that you can switch channels . And my opinion is you should keep it as basic as possible . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay . So not a not a remote control who uh uh which can uh can be used for television and a D_V_D_ and radio and {disfmarker} Or just only {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . I think so . Uh but I have some points . Can I show them on the on the big screen ? Maybe ?
Project Manager: If you have them on uh {disfmarker} I can uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah , I can find {disfmarker} Uh .
Project Manager: Okay . Oh , in case you want it {disfmarker} This is a dead kind of fly . Between the the the , yeah , the the uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Screen ?
Project Manager: Yeah , be The screens .
Marketing: Okay .
User Interface: Is it possible to open pen drawings in this uh on this screen ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} No no no . Only {disfmarker} All the drawings go there , at the left uh {disfmarker} {gap}
User Interface: Uh but um which {disfmarker} The ones we made on the {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh , that pen drawings . Uh no , I think uh when it is uh in Word and you have saved it in the Shared Documents folder , you can show it there .
User Interface: Oh , only in Word ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: okay .
Marketing: Okay , I have some uh points from marketing point of view .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Um just the standard thing li things like uh intuitive , uh small , fairly cheap . Uh it's pretty cheap , twenty five Euros . Uh brand independent . Um I think , it doesn't have to matter uh which brand your T_V_ or other thing is . Um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah . Okay . Five minutes .
Marketing: Five minutes ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Okay , I'll wrap it up quickly . Um I personally think it has to be multi-purpose .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Uh most of the remote c uh remote controls are uh just for one purpose .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: And uh by making it multi-purpose , it uh has a new feature , adds a new feature to the market , and distinguish from uh from current products .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Um maybe some other technology than infrared . Uh I rather find it very annoying um , like when someone is standing in front of the T_V_ then you can't switch it . Um {vocalsound} think about um sending it over radio waves or bluetooth .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
Marketing: That might be a little bit uh expensive . Um {disfmarker} And something like an L_C_D_ screen .
User Interface: For what purpose ?
Marketing: Um uh like I said here um {disfmarker} Maybe it's easy . It's nice as an added feature feature , that um , {vocalsound} when you're on a certain channel , you can see on the L_C_D_ screen uh what programmes are coming up or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay . So it be uh a multi-purpose uh very technically uh high uh
Marketing: From my point of view , yeah .
Project Manager: remote ? Yeah , it must be really uh innovative , technical-wise ?
Marketing: Yeah , it has to be uh {disfmarker} Yeah , our company is very uh good in making new innovative uh things .
Project Manager: Yeah . So yeah , I I agree with you .
User Interface: {vocalsound} We {disfmarker}
Marketing: So i i i i
Project Manager: So we must focus on things who are really uh really add something to uh to {disfmarker}
Marketing: To the current market .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Look , {vocalsound} you got some cheap uh remote controls there . They just uh {disfmarker} Yeah , you got a dozen of 'em .
Project Manager: No .
Marketing: But when you enter a new market with a remote control and
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: uh wanna gain market share
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: you have to do something special , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah . But we have to keep an eye that it's {disfmarker} Uh at the beginning of such a project , it's it's it's very uh cool to talk about , well , this would be cool , that would be cool .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh but we must not uh lose uh sight of the the user uh uh friendly uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , of course .
User Interface: And and the price . {gap}
Marketing: But it's {disfmarker} But but this is just from marketing uh aspect .
Project Manager: Yeah okay . Yeah . Okay .
Marketing: I don't know anything about user interface or {vocalsound} design .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: {gap} And that's because we have him . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And and him . {vocalsound}
User Interface: And him . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , uh next meeting will start in thirty minutes . So uh you uh will have uh individual actions where I presume uh will be some feedback , uh via the m the mail . Um {vocalsound} the the the Industrial uh Designer has to uh look at the working design . {vocalsound} Uh the User Interface Designer has to look at the technical functions . So that's the thing we uh discussed .
User Interface: Yeah . Um one thing uh ,
Project Manager: Yeah ?
User Interface: we must first agree on uh what we're going to m going to make . Do we {disfmarker} Are we going to use um it it for multiple systems ? Or uh {disfmarker} We should have some agreement on that before we {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay . Um wha
Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm uh I I don't think we have to be , we have to agree on that . Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I figure we could get back to it on the next meeting actually .
Marketing: I think th that's a pha Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: That's a phase further .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Ju just uh make some mock-ups , some some general ideas .
User Interface: Ah okay .
Marketing: And and then we can plan {disfmarker} Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: We can plan further , I think .
Project Manager: Yeah . But maybe , because uh you are working on the user requirements , you are working on the technical functions , we uh must uh have a little or kinda uh uh uh {disfmarker} How do you call it ? Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Consensus on the , what we're gonna do .
Project Manager: Uh a little plan on on what we're going to do . So you don't uh uh come up with the user requirements who don't fit the the the the technical functions at all . Some basic things we co we want to going to do . Uh I think that's well uh {disfmarker} Yeah . Will come in handy .
Marketing: Mm yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I don't know . You decide . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: You're the Project Manager .
Project Manager: W {vocalsound} He says {disfmarker}
User Interface: if the technical functions have to be designed , I I've gotta know for what kind of machines they will be .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Or do we use it a text screen ? Or uh will it be with uh with bluetooth or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well , th that's that's really a step further . But if you say uh {vocalsound} is it uh uh one way or multi-purpose , that's a {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay . Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Uh tha that's a same step further .
Project Manager: Why ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , actually it is .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Why ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Then looking at individual components ,
Marketing: Uh .
Industrial Designer: so that's actually a f step further .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Like we all have a list of uh things that has to b that have to be in it , or how it has to be like . And then in the next meeting we decide
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , we can take it from there .
Marketing: w what it's gonna be .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I agree uh , we can take it from there .
Marketing: A And then you s then you can delete uh
Industrial Designer: Or edit .
Marketing: the o the obsolete uh details .
Project Manager: Okay . So uh
Marketing: I think .
Project Manager: each individually i individually uh must think on what's uh at uh his point of view is the most important . And uh then we're going to fit uh all the pieces together the next meeting .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: I must finish off now ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: so it's over . You uh will receive specific specific instructions uh by your personal coach . And I see you in uh thirty minutes . Thank you .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Okay , cheers .
User Interface: Sorry .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Be careful .
Marketing: Damn .
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: Success ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . No . Come up .


Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
Marketing: I dunno . {vocalsound} Throwing away my toothpick .
User Interface: Hi there .
Project Manager: Yo . Ow .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Nice user interface .
Project Manager: Yeah . What the {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: Yeah well , ja well let's just start .
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I've uh made a presentation uh but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard , so we can all see it .
Marketing: Right let's see it .
Project Manager: So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here . Well {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Very nice . Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting . So uh {vocalsound} I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,
Marketing: 'Kay .
Project Manager: and uh hmm . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Oh sorry . {vocalsound} And {gap} an uh a nice agenda . {vocalsound} Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so , that's not uh very much trouble . I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all use them . Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here . So {vocalsound} this the opening we'll uh {disfmarker} We have to uh design a new television remote control . You have heard that uh already I think , so .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Um we want it to be original , so a nice uh a nice new design . Uh trendy , it's {vocalsound} also for young people , and we have to just uh make it uh modern . And uh friendly , so size does matter . And uh {disfmarker} Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Other uh {disfmarker} There happen to be uh three stages . {gap} functional , conceptual , and d detailed design . Um so every time we we'll do some individual work , get meeting , talk about it , uh and then go into the next phase . That's just it . {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker} We have uh these two Smartboards . Um well as I just showed , there's a project management folder , a project document folder on the desktop . It just works exactly the same as a computer . You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop . So you can uh make uh {vocalsound} Words Excel , everything . Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things , you can uh draw . This is a uh well a drawing board . {gap} you have a {disfmarker} these different uh functions on the board . You can see them there . So you have a a nice pen , and it's works just like a bal ball pen . {vocalsound} This is just a {gap} . I want to uh {disfmarker} Oh yeah . Of course w {vocalsound} doesn't work any more . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Maybe you should try to write on the on the big white uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes I will {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Does it ? Yeah . It works .
Project Manager: eraser {gap} so .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Wonderful .
Project Manager: It's fantas fantastic . We can uh uh well you can save a file . So if uh we draw we have to save everything . Don't throw anything away .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Uh just we can start a new one , and we just go on , and don't throw anything away .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Just uh let them all uh stand here . We can delete , but we don't do that . Um you can here select a pen , you can draw anything you want . It's a bit uh childish you have to write . It's not as fast as you w you know it , but it does work sometimes .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well it's just like a normal uh paint .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: So it's gone .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Alright , yep .
Project Manager: Well we are designers , so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard . So that's fantastic . Um well this uh speaks for itself . We going to try it . So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: not my idea . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Alright , your favourite animal ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes our your favourite . So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: but I'm going d I'm not going to . I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast
Marketing: {vocalsound} Grizzly bear . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: w I dunno what I'm going to design .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh um {vocalsound} doesn't {disfmarker} oh .
Industrial Designer: I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , 'kay . Hmm ?
Industrial Designer: I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I just said it's not my idea
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: but I am the Project Manager ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and officially this is my idea . {vocalsound} So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I I I {vocalsound} I understand . Alright .
Marketing: We're kinda losing time , though .
Project Manager: what ?
Marketing: We're losing time , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Ah {vocalsound} the first the first meeting is just a bit uh loose , loosen up , a bit uh meeting each other
Industrial Designer: {gap} so start {disfmarker}
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: {gap} well uh uh nice yeah . {vocalsound} Sh
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yep yes .
Project Manager: I hope our Industrial Designer does this better because uh this is uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Don't uh count on it .
Project Manager: No {vocalsound} {vocalsound} so a a few legs .
Marketing: Do we have to guess ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes yes
Marketing: {vocalsound} A hippo ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: guess . {vocalsound} Well I should make it an hippo now . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think it's a mouse or a rat .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} No I don't think so .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh . Oh I know it .
Project Manager: Well what is it , huh ?
Industrial Designer: It's a hedgehog .
Marketing: I don't know how to call it .
Project Manager: Yeah
Marketing: A hedgehog ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap} difficult English word . I didn't knew it myself {gap} . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Our characteristics sum it up . Well it's uh very {vocalsound} uh painful
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {disfmarker} {vocalsound} those kind of thing . So we can uh just uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can uh draw its uh most favourite animal .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I am the Industrial Designer .
Marketing: Alright . Thank you .
Project Manager: Huh .
Industrial Designer: Chief , I am the Industrial Designer .
Project Manager: Oh uh but this uh marketing designer .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think {disfmarker} It's pr it resembles {vocalsound} the animal drawn by {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap}
Marketing: It's {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: what kind of animal is that then ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I think {disfmarker} can I say it ?
Marketing: Yeah sure .
Project Manager: Uh it {gap} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: It's a rabbit . {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker} Looks very nice , right ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: It looks amazing .
Project Manager: No no no . What are you going to do ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: We want to erase it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No no .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No no save it and start a new uh {disfmarker} save it and start a new black uh doc {gap} a blank document .
Industrial Designer: These are very impor {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: These are very important documents , of course , uh these drawings , uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah well we have to save everything
Marketing: Yes uh right .
Project Manager: so now um the next one uh {disfmarker} {gap} and then save it and start an blank document .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Thanks .
Marketing: You go man .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness .
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: So um well you should uh try it but uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I should have made mine a white rabbit . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well y y y you could have but uh {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: And he deliberately draws a animal we don't know the English word for .
Project Manager: It speaks for itself .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} What the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It looks like an uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: uh just a duck . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It looks like that beast from Sesame Street .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Nice . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Big bird . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Is it a duck ?
Marketing: You're standing in front of it ,
Industrial Designer: It's it's uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Is it a plane ? {vocalsound}
Marketing: I can't see it . Alright , thank you . Yeah it's a bird , but what kind of bird ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It doesn't draw uh circles uh that easy uh .
Industrial Designer: Do we have to uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: You have to push harder .
Project Manager: Yeah just a bit a bit childish ,
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: a bit {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: But we have uh {vocalsound} do we have to name the specific species of the bird ?
Marketing: Release your anger .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh no I don't .
Industrial Designer: No ?
User Interface: It's just a bird .
Project Manager: Well uh save the document
Industrial Designer: Well wonderful .
Project Manager: and then uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And then a a new blank document for {gap} . {gap} uh will uh choose a new colour and a new pen width so w we can all see it .
User Interface: Here you go .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Why do I have to do the difficult tasks ?
Project Manager: No well first
Industrial Designer: Uh pen {disfmarker}
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: yeah that's {gap} .
Project Manager: And then you go to format I think {vocalsound} , and current colour {gap}
Industrial Designer: Uh current colour .
Project Manager: you choose a new colour . {vocalsound} And a new pen width uh {gap} also format .
Industrial Designer: I like uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: oh they don't have pink . {vocalsound} Oh b oh {vocalsound} think this is uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's not like in paint . Line width .
Industrial Designer: Uh ? Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And you can choose a nice one .
Industrial Designer: Line width .
Project Manager: Width width .
User Interface: Width .
Project Manager: With each other .
Industrial Designer: Uh {vocalsound} {vocalsound} fifteen .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: And I can draw ?
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound} So . Just a wa that's the way we do {gap}
Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: it's quite easy .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hmm . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's a pussy cat .
Marketing: It's a cat . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh Pussy . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh the line width is too thick , but oh well .
Project Manager: Well then you change it . And erase things .
Industrial Designer: Uh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} What ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} It's a pig . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It smiles nicely .
Project Manager: Super pig . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Now {vocalsound} I have to change the line width . {vocalsound} Uh one {vocalsound} {gap} .
Project Manager: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah yeah yeah
Industrial Designer: These are {gap} whiskers , you know .
Project Manager: we know . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: Uh well I think it's obvious right now .
Project Manager: Yes alright . It's a cat . {vocalsound}
Marketing: No it looks great .
Industrial Designer: Miaow .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well if this isn't obvious {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well well um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Just save it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah save it {vocalsound} and {vocalsound} start a new blank document .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'll save it {vocalsound} alright uh save . Uh yeah uh blank .
Project Manager: Yep . So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it .
Industrial Designer: Well I feel comfortable now .
Marketing: Oh great .
Project Manager: Well {vocalsound} it's terrific , eh ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Thanks for this exercise . I feel totally at ease .
Marketing: It's good for group spirit . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah that's it . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} It certainly is . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We're one big happy family now . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah something like that .
Project Manager: Well then uh the serious uh stuff . We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars , but uh twenty five Euros . Our profit aim is , worldwide , fifty million Euros . So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell .
Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so , keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff , and uh marketing uh research .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls , first {gap} about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera ?
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait . We can uh take notes {vocalsound} and uh {disfmarker} Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls ? Please ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Well I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh {disfmarker} {gap}
Project Manager: No uh I did . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: it's not , it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls , but uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well uh just w we're uh four uh if we if we would just have one then {disfmarker}
Marketing: I think it's im it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
Marketing: On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce .
Project Manager: Yep . That's alright .
Marketing: Maybe it's important to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player
Project Manager: That would be a nice idea , yes .
Marketing: so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote control .
Project Manager: Yep yep yep .
Marketing: Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world , for different cultures , maybe , because we want to we want to {gap} well fifty million ?
Project Manager: Yes fifty million is our aim to a profit , so .
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Yeah yeah
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: so a lot of people have to be able to use it .
Industrial Designer: No but uh the b the buttons have to uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh
Marketing: So {disfmarker}
User Interface: Easy to learn .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah that's right .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: and numbers and uh that every culture in uh , yeah , people in every country can recognise .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh {disfmarker} well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh just now .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
User Interface: I also think we should not add too many buttons .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: No that's right .
User Interface: Modern day uh remotes have {vocalsound} too much buttons I think .
Project Manager: Y y you don't use uh the half of them that's that's {gap}
User Interface: Precisely .
Project Manager: culture uh international .
Marketing: Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah indeed .
Industrial Designer: Yeah so it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons and uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah right .
Project Manager: Yep , and maybe we do uh {vocalsound} we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player . Don't we have uh other uh ou
User Interface: Yeah we should make it compatible perhaps with everything we use , we uh we make ?
Project Manager: Uh .
Industrial Designer: And stereo uh s uh audio installations .
Project Manager: We also uh just uh released a T_F_T_ uh thing I saw .
Marketing: Yeah so but th that's kind kind of standard T_ television so it also works on that .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: And I think the people who who will buy our uh remote already have some experience with remotes . So we can keep that in mind .
Industrial Designer: Most people do , yeah .
Project Manager: Well yeah .
Industrial Designer: It doesn't {gap}
Project Manager: It doesn't have to be , but we can .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: it doesn't have to be {disfmarker}
User Interface: W well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh to control with it .
Project Manager: Well except if we deliver it together with our D_V_D_ .
Marketing: Yeah but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah alright , but {disfmarker}
Marketing: We need to to keep it consistent with other d uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah because we look at competitors
Industrial Designer: Well .
Project Manager: and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: Yeah but it's {disfmarker} it has to be useable .
Industrial Designer: It has to be different and familiar at the same time .
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: we could use another form or shape or colour , that kind of things .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: {gap} yeah the shape will will have to be recognised . I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing {gap}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: you can make it uh triangle shaped ,
User Interface: Well we we could make more more oval or something , and and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but that's not uh very recognisable .
Marketing: {vocalsound} No .
Project Manager: Oo
Industrial Designer: Oval ?
Project Manager: N we can use uh it as a as a game pad .
User Interface: Yeah or so
Industrial Designer: I {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So {vocalsound} one hand has the beer , so the other hand uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Well yeah it's new . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {gap} . Not with two hands . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah , right .
User Interface: {gap} but young people want something different
Marketing: No {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: and it is {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well i we already uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah but it's quite important that it fits .
Project Manager: one of our aims is that it has to be original and trendy so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Oh but it ha it has to be m
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: yeah . But you still have to know it's a remote and not another {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to {disfmarker} we can imagine uh
User Interface: Yeah alright .
Project Manager: because it's a long time uh on the market . So the the form will have {vocalsound} been uh tested out so {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh , yeah , useful
Project Manager: Yes . Well {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: or else uh they would have been ano another shape .
Project Manager: for me personally I have a {vocalsound} a lot of remotes uh at home but {vocalsound} those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle {vocalsound} I don't like to use them . I have uh have to {disfmarker} it has to fit my hands .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: When it falls over it and I just have {disfmarker} and then the button that I use most has to be here .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah
Marketing: It shouldn't be boxy .
Industrial Designer: a lo {gap} the long box shape yeah . You have to {vocalsound} use one hand .
Project Manager: It f it fits your hands and then you just push the button that you use most with {gap} thumb .
Marketing: Nah {disfmarker} I don't agree with the long box uh shape {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Why not ?
Marketing: it it has to be custom made for the hand .
User Interface: Yeah it doesn't fit {gap} .
Project Manager: Tho tho those new D_V_D_ players on the market do have those .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: But it does fit in the hand if you hold it like this , and you can make it another shape ,
Marketing: Yeah but if you shape it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but then you have {disfmarker}
User Interface: No if y if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_ {gap} with their uh remotes {vocalsound} pl players {vocalsound} they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped .
Marketing: If {disfmarker}
Project Manager: D_V_D_ players . Yes . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: W no w what else ?
Marketing: No that's ol old fashioned .
Industrial Designer: I di
User Interface: Well {disfmarker} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah well but uh what what what do you suggest then ?
User Interface: Yes uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I can imagine that us
User Interface: Well {vocalsound} most of {gap} of them are are somewhat thicker at the end , and get um yeah thinner towards the uh the other end .
Marketing: Yeah right . It fits in your palms .
Industrial Designer: Hmm . Well {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: but it's still then uh the the long box , uh but then with some uh round uh {vocalsound} round forms in it to fit your hand ,
User Interface: Yeah it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Marketing: Hmm ?
Project Manager: A it h it has it it has a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand .
Marketing: Um .
Industrial Designer: but it's it's still {disfmarker} Yeah yeah al alright
Project Manager: That's {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but but it's still it's still {gap} sort of box , yeah .
Marketing: {gap} .
User Interface: Yeah yea
Industrial Designer: It it has round forms
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but it in the end it's still the box , so that's what I mean .
Marketing: Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah I understand , but {disfmarker} no no I don't mean an entire box like completely square
Marketing: It shouldn't be too boxy , you know .
User Interface: Hmm .
Marketing: It's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} No no no .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but a also with round edges of course ,
User Interface: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: but in in in at the end it's still this long {vocalsound} box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh {vocalsound} to fit .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right maybe something like this
Industrial Designer: Yeah yes {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} and then a button here to switch between {vocalsound} different systems like D_V_D_ player
Industrial Designer: I thought about something like that . Yeah .
Marketing: and so you can {disfmarker} I've {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: A big recognisable button on top or something .
Marketing: Yeah right , and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea with the with the numbers and {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: We have five minutes left .
Industrial Designer: The buttons should uh also be not too small , not too big , of course ,
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yes
Industrial Designer: and uh n uh uh not too close uh together .
Project Manager: uh that's {vocalsound} yep .
Marketing: But it should be possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button .
Project Manager: Yep .
Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
Marketing: So there has to be some space between the buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yeah of course uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different functions .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah right right ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Marketing: and maybe we should use colours .
User Interface: Yeah {gap} maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well {gap} {vocalsound} you can you can put on on them ,
Industrial Designer: Colours , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Ha .
User Interface: and so you can customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special paint jobs {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's kinda trendy . Yeah right .
Project Manager: Sound nice . Yes .
User Interface: I dunno but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well it's just uh about our first ideas now
User Interface: Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {gap} .
Project Manager: so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about these materials and markets etcetera .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Right . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yes ?
Industrial Designer: Already thought about something tha {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I think it's uh it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that we make ,
Project Manager: Yes .
Marketing: so we {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well thirty minutes we have . So um {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh . You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your room so uh it's uh logical uh . I think .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} No problem .
Project Manager: Oh and uh that's uh that's all . So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over .
Industrial Designer: Yeah now we can still talk about the material ,
Project Manager: Yeah yes say .
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: we have some some minutes left uh {gap} I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course , hard plastic , the buttons should be uh rubbery I think uh .
Marketing: Yeah . Yeah it shouldn't be too heavy .
User Interface: {gap} .
Project Manager: Well I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons
User Interface: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: No n n
Project Manager: and when I've had use it much it was gone . So it has to be made in the buttons I think .
User Interface: Yeah that's bad , yeah .
Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah .
Project Manager: It has to uh not be loose .
User Interface: Yeah that's important {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Alright . And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh {vocalsound} to connect things uh to each other .
Project Manager: Yeah . Is there an a universal uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: I think so .
Marketing: Yeah it's univ yeah yeah yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's a a common stan standard way {gap}
Project Manager: It's not that in China it's different ?
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: infrared beams an infrared beam I think {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah . But y you can have uh of course different between D_V_D_s and televisions and between {disfmarker}
Marketing: And you can use {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . But our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country , so {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Probably yes .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: China rules . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And have {disfmarker} well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works . {vocalsound} The user presses a button and with an infrared beam it signals the television set accordingly ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: But are {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but that's pretty obvious , I think . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea ?
Project Manager: Well I think uh w we can look into that in the in the next uh thirty minutes .
Marketing: I think {vocalsound} we should make it universal
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: and you can always use a front front on it , you know ? You can use it {vocalsound} just plain
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: {gap} .
Marketing: but you can {vocalsound} {disfmarker} To make it more trendy .
Project Manager: Well j just y you get a n a normal front with it , but you can change them uh when you buy the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: Yes . Yes .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts a a around the world so uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
User Interface: Well you can make profit with them , and it's {vocalsound} a way to make them trendy .
Project Manager: Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself {vocalsound} so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts uh .
Industrial Designer: Well but th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something
User Interface: Yeah alright {vocalsound} .
Marketing: Yeah right .
User Interface: Yeah normal .
Industrial Designer: uh b a simple colour not not very flashy .
Project Manager: Yes . Yeah well it has to it h it has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell ,
User Interface: No a colour everyone accepts .
Project Manager: so if they are uh black and black black and silver we'll make them black and silver so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Pink television sets {vocalsound} pink remote , {gap} .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah yeah yeah .
User Interface: Yeah . {gap} standard .
Marketing: But people of often don't like bright colours or something .
Project Manager: {gap} .
Marketing: We have to make it grey or s or black .
User Interface: Well young people s li
Marketing: Yeah but then you can use {vocalsound} a a front .
User Interface: Yeah yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Alright .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I must not forget my pen the next time . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well if if you {disfmarker} yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it . I think .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah that's right .
Project Manager: But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah or a t Teletubby front . {vocalsound} Yeah yeah yeah . I will investigate .
Project Manager: Yes . {vocalsound} Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh {gap} I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote . And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think .
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah .
Project Manager: Or something like that . Yeah . Yeah .
User Interface: What's the uh url or the website 'cause I didn't get {disfmarker}
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: Yeah I uh w was wondering that too .
Project Manager: Euro ?
Industrial Designer: Y you went to the company website {gap} .
Marketing: It's {disfmarker} Yeah yeah yeah just if you start up your Internet Explorer {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well it it it's {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: if you uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: It's the the the start uh starting page uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh oh right oh well I didn't uh use it {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Finish meeting now . Oh alright . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well uh we're going to back uh back into our rooms so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: Well that's great .
User Interface: Next meeting is in {disfmarker}
Project Manager: In thirty minutes , but uh I think it will be {disfmarker} you will be warned uh through your laptop uh to get over here .
User Interface: Thirty minutes .
Marketing: Thirty minutes .
User Interface: Yeah alright it's it's handy to know {gap} {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I'll have to restore my uh my desktop uh
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Very handy to know .
Marketing: {vocalsound} It's totally broken . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: because uh {vocalsound} it's it's the half of the normal size . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Right see you in half an hour then .
Project Manager: Oh right , oh .
User Interface: Oh . {vocalsound} Goodbye . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ma {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: W
Marketing: Oh {disfmarker}
User Interface: S
Project Manager: W {vocalsound} that was a nice meeting .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} .
User Interface: {gap} .
Industrial Designer: Right uh see you in thirty minutes then . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , see you . {vocalsound}