Project Manager: Okay . Hi Team . Hope you had a good lunch .
Marketing: {gap}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting . Um let's get started . 'Kay , here is the agenda for today's meeting . Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager . We're gonna have three presentations , one from each of you again . And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up . And we have forty minutes again . 'Kay , and just to reiterate um after this meeting the team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control . Okay . Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations . Who would like to go first ?
Industrial Designer: Just trying to move mine right now .
Project Manager: Okay . Um Courtney would you mind starting us off ?
Marketing: Yeah {gap} .
Project Manager: Okay . Trend watching ? 'Kay .
Marketing: Yeah . Okay , so trend watching . Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics , it is kind of important how our product looks . So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next . So what they want . Right now customers want fancy versus functional . Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they {disfmarker} like of the product that they want , describing like the {disfmarker} in order of how much they want , fifty eight per cent of the decision of what it should look like , fancy versus functional , and then it has to also be technologically innovative , and yet easy to use . So the customer basically is confused . They don't know exactly what they want . They want us to tell them . {gap}
Industrial Designer: They want everything , but simply .
Marketing: Yes . Exactly .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: So we can go to next .
Project Manager: Mm 'kay .
Marketing: Okay . So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing , shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year . I don't know really , I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons if we want to
Project Manager: Mm . Mm .
Marketing: rather than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff , you'd want like a softer touch . I mean do you guys know what I mean .
Project Manager: Right . Yes .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah th
Marketing: Yeah . Um . But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns , I don't know if we really want to go with that , because it is just a trend ,
Project Manager: Right .
Marketing: and our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months ,
Project Manager: Right . People don't buy a new remote every so often .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I I can {disfmarker}
Marketing: because {disfmarker} Yeah . I mean that could just be a Spring thing right now .
Industrial Designer: I can address some of that issue , I think , with uh my presentation .
Marketing: Okay . Awesome .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Um so design preferences , um we need easy to read like large buttons , clearly labelled so that , I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem . Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch , you said that in your design , with the bulb . Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme . Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously . That's one of our key goals , we wanna promote our product .
User Interface: {gap}
Marketing: And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something . Actually right here . So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this , where we put the buttons around , like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle , I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down , and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape . 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool . So it's classically retro .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Marketing: So I mean that's just an idea if you guys like it .
Project Manager: Very good . I like it . {vocalsound} Okay , ready for the next slide ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} And , yep . And that's it . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Op mm 'kay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: Great . Great presentation . Ready ?
User Interface: Okay hang on .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: See if it's there . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Which one is it ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} I don't know . Hang on .
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: Interface concepts , no ?
Project Manager: Interface concepts new .
User Interface: Either refresh it , or it sh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Y
User Interface: Oh wait , maybe I didn't put it there . Hang on .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: Mine will always read copy of something or other .
Project Manager: Sorry ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I I copied mine before I sent it over .
Project Manager: Oh okay .
User Interface: Sorry , hang on . Don't know {gap} .
Project Manager: Oh there we go .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: Okay , um {vocalsound} looking at the interface concept , it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this . Uh if you wanna start the next slide .
Project Manager: Sure .
User Interface: Um uh can't really see , but there's two possible ways , on the r left , if you see on th on the sides of of the remote , you have the sort of scroll down , so you have that option right there . And then also there's the idea of the base . That's sort of like an idea there . And then on the right , we have what's really big trend right now , it's the iPod . It's becoming really {gap} and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons , and it's sort of like you have the both {gap} kind of trendy and hip , but also very sleek and um and very simple , but technologically advanced . So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like {vocalsound} using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it , but {disfmarker} Anyway , next .
Project Manager: Mm 'kay .
User Interface: Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight . You'd you know you're in the dark , you don't wanna be looking at the remote control . And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_ , and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up . What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down , because the down arrow .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up . Um but then you have {disfmarker} you could either do it by raised type , which could be you know , iffy , um sort of old-fashioned in a way .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Either that or just have it by shape , for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow . And then the round ones you sort of feel by , you know , that's the second one down , that sort of thing . So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Okay . Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic . Um this is particularly geared towards children .
Marketing: That's cute .
Project Manager: {gap}
User Interface: Um it's very cute , and we could probably change it to yellow , bright yellow for like a the for the company logo . Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking . Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain {disfmarker} {vocalsound} channels that only these children would watch , so it's like they ch watch , you know , the C_ Beebies or something like that ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: uh keep them away from other channels . So that's like another ar Um ,
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: I mean , these are three examples sort of looking at it . You have the wider section for the main controls there . Uh you could see how many buttons there are . And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons , and a simpler design . On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that , because it's more for like a D_V_D_ {vocalsound} function which we are not gonna be using . Um . So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_ , Real Reaction .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples , but also some more , just possibilities that we could go with . None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: No .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying , well out of this one we like , you know the round section of um , b or we'd like the the button size on this .
Project Manager: Mm . Or I like , you know , the black finish or the silver finish or whatever .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Right .
Marketing: I have four of those remotes .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Good lord .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . Ready ? Oh , yeah . Okay .
User Interface: That's it .
Project Manager: Great job .
Industrial Designer: Okay , my turn .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: Whoo .
Project Manager: What's the title ?
Industrial Designer: It'll be copy of component design .
Project Manager: Got it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Th that looks like it . 'Kay . So basic remote operation runs as follows , press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit , chip senses the connection , chip produces a morse code infra-red signal , specific to that button . So you press the button , it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button . Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre , which interprets the signal response accordingly , changes channel etcetera . So that being said {disfmarker} Next slide , please . Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction , so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed , we need rubber for buttons , aluminium for battery y contacts , integrated circuit which consists of a diode , transistor , resonator , resistors , and a capacitator , all those basic things that make a circuit function . Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself . An L_E_D_ , which is a light emitting diode , um contact discs for the buttons , plastic for the casing , and a power-source , whatever power-source we've actually determined we want . Next slide , please . Thank you . Uh personal preferences , uh to save money for the components , the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse . Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips , casing , L_E_D_ , any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing , we should go for it . {vocalsound} Next slide , please . Um just talking to the um manufacturing division . They suggested power options , solar cells , hand dynamo , and kinetic power , so you shake it and it increases the power . Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works , they have yet to get back to me on that .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: So next slide , please .
Project Manager: Interesting .
Industrial Designer: Suggested casing options . Okay . We can offer options for casing such as straight , curved , double-curved , you know , very specific to the customer . Options for materials , plastic , rubber , titanium , wood .
Project Manager: {gap}
Industrial Designer: I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one , because splinters {disfmarker}
Marketing: That would be amazing , though , yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: {gap}
Marketing: No , splinters would {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um certain restrictions do apply here though . Uh latex , you can't do solar power with a latex one . So , if they want some a soft squishy rubber , they can't have the solar powered option . Double-curved , you can't do titanium .
Marketing: What is that ?
Industrial Designer: Um that would be two curvatures , so it would actually , if you {disfmarker} the shape of your hand , you curve here and you curve here , so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Now if you wanted that , you can't do titanium . And uh so you {gap} functions what {disfmarker} for the buttons , scrolling function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves .
User Interface: Right .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
Industrial Designer: I think I have one more slide .
Project Manager: No , okay .
Industrial Designer: No , I didn't . Um the manufacturing division also has said that um {vocalsound} they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip , which we could utilise . Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip . So depends on what we decide we wanna do . In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote , we're going to have to have multiples of each type , like a double-curved in rubber , um you know , each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options . So we'll have to mix it up , make sure we produce enough of everyone . But that could also drive up the price of the actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand , you know , double-curved wooden remotes .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Right .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Okay . Alright ,
Industrial Designer: And that's all I got .
Project Manager: well thank you for those informative presentations . Let's go back to um {disfmarker} Now we have to make some decisions . Where were we ?
User Interface: Let me just add one more thing that I couldn't say before ,
Project Manager: Sure .
User Interface: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition . Um .
Marketing: Oh this {disfmarker} the thing we were talking about earlier .
User Interface: Right except that it's sort of odd , and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are , um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for {disfmarker} So , you would say like , good morning , coffeemaker , and it would respond , good morning , Jill ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work , 'cause do you programme {disfmarker} do we program the responses and the questions . So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question , and can't change it in order for it to be recognised ,
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: or can it be altered in a certain way , or does the actually user program it , to say a channel means this .
Project Manager: Right . Right .
Marketing: Yeah , like using the menu to be like , enter your name into the screen like on the menu options .
User Interface: Right ,
Marketing: So that way the remote reads it .
User Interface: so it's got like a limited memory and {gap} programme it . So it's sort of iffy ,
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: but that's kind of what you'd say .
Marketing: I feel like voice recognition would be , I don't know , w it would be too hard to really {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Hmm . Programme .
Marketing: I mean we could do it , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that would , you know , technology {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well , we are making the chip .
Marketing: Technology .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: So , I mean {disfmarker} But , I guess , we have to look at w what {vocalsound} our production cost is for the chip itself anyway .
Marketing: And it is a growing trend , the higher technological , like
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: the , I mean just like the more advanced it is ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: the better it'll sell .
Industrial Designer: I I thought {vocalsound} offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different , you know {disfmarker} I think we'd have to decide on the power options , maybe .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: So that we could reduce cost .
Marketing: Yeah , 'cause we need to know how big it's gonna be and how heavy . {gap}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , that kind of brings us to this , let's let's see if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost . Um .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier ?
Marketing: Oh the base , yeah .
Project Manager: The base , the charging base with rechargeable batteries ?
Industrial Designer: I think the p
User Interface: I always feel like first I wanna know what it looks like , before {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: 'Cause if it's something really really small , then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it , that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , and we don't have multiple things that it has to control , it just has to control the T_V_ .
Marketing: W
Project Manager: It's not gonna be a huge universal remote .
User Interface: Right .
Marketing: We need to decide , well so we can figure how big it's gonna be , like exactly what buttons we want
Project Manager: What size battery and {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons , so we want it to be bigger than this ,
Marketing: and exactly {disfmarker} It could be like this . Yes .
User Interface: 'cause it still fits in your hand , so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial , but not necessarily full of buttons .
Marketing: I'd , well uh {disfmarker} This one is really comfortable , like I like the sides whatever ,
User Interface: Are you gonna lose it easier ?
Marketing: because {disfmarker} But if we have the um , the locator , then we don't have to worry about that .
Industrial Designer: That's true .
Marketing: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: If we do a voice-activated locator , though , we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip . So {disfmarker}
User Interface: So i That's the other thing ,
Marketing: Hmm .
User Interface: it's like {disfmarker} You know {gap} Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size {vocalsound} period ?
Marketing: Two double A_s , for this size .
User Interface: But like , you know , if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be {disfmarker} have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size .
Marketing: Right .
Industrial Designer: Honestly , I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small , compact {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Right . I agree , it's either gonna be bigger with a base or smaller with just {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: So we sh
Marketing: Smaller , without {disfmarker}
Project Manager: A battery like this guy .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Alright , so what direction do you want to go in ? You wanna vote ?
Marketing: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one , I think that seems way more advanced .
Project Manager: I'm kind of I'm kind of leaning in the direction of this kind of
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: I'm a away from the base .
Project Manager: bigger and the base .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That just seems so clunky and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: 'Kay so {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now , those trends the smaller the hotter it is ,
User Interface: Smaller and smaller , yeah , yeah , yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: yeah {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash .
User Interface: {vocalsound} You're kidding .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You know it happens .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I've had three watches go that way too .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Oh watches I've {disfmarker} but I've never washed a cell phone . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Ouch . A phone , whoa , that would {disfmarker} wow , that would hurt .
Project Manager: Okay , so what kind of material do we want to be made out of ?
Industrial Designer: Pieces everywhere . Well , we have lots of options . I don't think wood is a viable option .
Marketing: Yeah wood .
Project Manager: No . Oh what did you {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , titanium s
Project Manager: Oh sorry , go ahead .
User Interface: I was saying that titanium , if we're being restricted then I would probably {vocalsound} lean away from that .
Marketing: Yeah , 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip , titanium will be more expensive .
Project Manager: Right .
Industrial Designer: However ,
Project Manager: What would you recommend ?
Industrial Designer: well , we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: right ? 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market then you could produce a few in titanium ,
User Interface: Yeah . That'll {disfmarker} Yeah , exactly .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: make them a rarity so to speak .
User Interface: The selling point , yeah .
Marketing: We could do that , because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more if {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Are we restricted by this ?
Project Manager: I I think we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm
Industrial Designer: Well the original {disfmarker}
User Interface: Twenty five Euros
Project Manager: not sure that we'll have the time and money to {vocalsound} produce a whole array of
Industrial Designer: Okay .
User Interface: {gap}
Project Manager: remotes . If this was a successful remote , we might then produce a higher end version of it , I think .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Good plan .
Marketing: Good plan .
Project Manager: Okay , so we wanna go for plastic , or what would you recommend for materials ?
Industrial Designer: Honestly I'd recommend like um {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power , I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex ,
Project Manager: {gap}
Industrial Designer: because we could produce , you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: We could do uh one that fits in with the trends of the year so ,
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: because this year is all fruit , God only knows why ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , who knows .
Industrial Designer: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids , you know {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come back and swap it ?
Marketing: O or we could like take off this .
Project Manager: They could buy cases , maybe ,
Industrial Designer: They could come back . And buy the extra case .
Project Manager: if they wanted .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell options .
Industrial Designer: So we could do like a b a hard base plastic , and then we could {vocalsound} give two latex covers to start .
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: The {disfmarker} what the top face , right ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
Marketing: Yeah , because the soft latex definitely is squishy . That's in . Well I mean squishier than like , yeah , just a hard plastic .
Project Manager: Right . Right . Okay , and what kind of chip would we need for this guy ?
Industrial Designer: How complicated {disfmarker} Are we gonna go with the voice activated {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I don't think we should do voice , I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost , you know . {gap} could we {disfmarker}
User Interface: A tracker , yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: 'Cause that uh {disfmarker} what it type of , yeah , for voice activation would it be like a certain term what we would say like ,
Project Manager: Hmm .
Marketing: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time .
Project Manager: Right .
Industrial Designer: Well , we could give it a specific code , you know , remote missing .
Marketing: So uh {disfmarker} Ooh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it , because I know that's {disfmarker} it's definitely gonna be big , because it's , I don't know , it's just so high-tech .
User Interface: Well , my little sister got {disfmarker} for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring , and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , see that would just irritate me .
User Interface: And then she would laugh and it would start going off in her purse , and you couldn't turn it off .
Project Manager: Oh dear .
Marketing: Oh ,
User Interface: So it became highly irritating .
Marketing: then maybe voice
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So I think having a key-phrase is much better .
Marketing: maybe voice activation won't be good .
Project Manager: Okay . Alright . But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say , channel up , and it would work , right ?
Marketing: Yeah , n n no , we just want it to be a finder .
Project Manager: Just a {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: But then it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , alright .
User Interface: Hmm . Okay .
Marketing: But do {disfmarker} can your {disfmarker} can the department make {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That would be like a mid-class um {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: Oh , brilliant then .
Industrial Designer: So we don't actually have to go for {disfmarker} Well , if they've just developed the sample sensor , sample speaker , it's a brand new chip .
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: Why not introduce it in this way ?
Project Manager: Mm 'kay .
Marketing: Yeah , good point .
Project Manager: Uh and what size batteries , double A_ , triple A_ ?
Marketing: I think triple A_ , it'll be lighter .
Project Manager: Two ? Could it run off of two {disfmarker}
Marketing: I mean more more come in a package .
User Interface: Well , that depends on what the energy is needed .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think , well , we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium , 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products , right ? So they're more widely available now . And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries .
Project Manager: They're more expensive though , too .
Industrial Designer: But if you only have to replace it every five years .
Project Manager: Mm . Thoughts anybody ?
Marketing: That's a good point .
User Interface: As long as we sell it with it .
Industrial Designer: Well , how about a initial , you get one battery when you buy it ,
User Interface: Right , that's what I meant .
Industrial Designer: 'cause I'm pretty sure we can get them pretty cheap on bulk .
Marketing: We could think about it and come back to it next meeting .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah . Alright .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: We still have one more meeting .
Project Manager: Okay . So we've covered that first category , User Interface Concept , meaning design .
User Interface: What's it gonna {disfmarker} Yeah , what's it gonna look like .
Project Manager: Okay . I ki I kind of {vocalsound} like your idea about the retro phone dial ,
User Interface: Um .
Project Manager: and that {disfmarker} the central button could have , maybe our logo on it ? It might be the four way scroll , too . I mean if {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , it could be whatever ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: as long as there's something big in the middle , because like the old phones , there's like that just like piece of metal or like a picture or something in the middle .
Project Manager: Yeah . Mm-hmm .
User Interface: Well , my issue with that is if it got too big though , 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle , then is it gonna get wider than your your hands are ,
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Oh , that's true .
User Interface: because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it ?
Marketing: Good point .
Industrial Designer: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side ,
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Oh , I see what you mean .
Industrial Designer: that could be particularly useful .
Project Manager: I think so .
Marketing: So scroll buttons on the side and then buttons on top ?
Project Manager: Yeah , I like that . 'Kay .
Marketing: But we definitely {disfmarker} If we have scroll things on the side , we definitely have to have 'em labelled .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Well , if it's just up and down {disfmarker}
Marketing: like on the side of it . Oh if it's just up and down .
User Interface: But is that for {disfmarker} {gap}
Industrial Designer: Volume or channel .
User Interface: Which ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I don't know .
Marketing: Well , you could do some on both sides .
User Interface: Do we have both sides ?
Project Manager: Can we ?
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah . We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then ,
Project Manager: So that you're just not holding it and it changes the chan
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: 'cause oth {vocalsound} otherwise you're not just holding it and going like this , you know .
Marketing: That's squishy . That's squishy .
User Interface: Well , the other option is in instead of a scroll you just have the buttons up on the side which are on the side .
Marketing: {gap} have buttons .
Project Manager: Mm . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: Yeah , {gap} that .
Project Manager: Hmm . 'Kay any other ideas ?
User Interface: Um what colour ?
Project Manager: Oh , yeah . Latex covers . W
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on , so we'll have to like have a little square or something , so that the our logo's available .
User Interface: Well I sort of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that . And that's at the bottom of it .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though , because if people are able to change the covers ,
User Interface: Which button ?
Project Manager: I don't know , maybe the on-off button , something , some {disfmarker} the menu button , I don't know , but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one . Are they all gonna have our company logo on them ? Every cover ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah , I don't think we should do that , because that would just be icky .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea .
Project Manager: If we want it to be visible and {disfmarker} Um are all those {disfmarker} those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking ? But those are plastic , right ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: They're not titanium .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I kind of like that look . Uh but , or if it was really {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: For our base one ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , for the base or if we're going for the retro look , I think , like a really shiny black would be cool .
Marketing: Yeah ,
Project Manager: What are your thoughts ?
Marketing: or like a gun-metal grey ,
Project Manager: Gun-metal gray .
Marketing: 'cause then it combines the silver and the black .
Project Manager: There you go , gun-metal gray .
User Interface: {vocalsound} I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button .
Project Manager: Why ?
Industrial Designer: It'll wear off . {vocalsound}
User Interface: What's the button {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , buttons wear off .
Project Manager: Mm .
User Interface: Well , w w then what's the button do , and how do you know that that is what the button does ? I guess . Just looking at examples , y you just don't ever see the logo on a button , it's always on the actual casing .
Project Manager: Right .
Marketing: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front of the actual {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: On the back ?
User Interface: But you don't {disfmarker}
Marketing: But we want it to be seen .
Project Manager: It d visible {disfmarker}
User Interface: But uh , yeah , you don't see it .
Project Manager: Visibility though {disfmarker}
Marketing: We need it to be seen .
Project Manager: 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is when you drop it or when you're changing the battery .
User Interface: Well , hang on . The other option is {vocalsound} , I don't know if you can see it but it's like if {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I can find it again .
User Interface: Yeah , it's like the second to last slide .
Project Manager: Okay . And yours was called Interface Concept ?
User Interface: Interface , yeah .
Project Manager: This one ?
User Interface: Yeah . Um .
Project Manager: Well , for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay , it's the very right one . You see at the bottom , it's kind of difficult to see , but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like , where the logo is , and if we have the replaceable section , it's like the top . It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top .
Project Manager: Mm
User Interface: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in .
Project Manager: Okay , yes
User Interface: If c you envisioning it ?
Project Manager: yes .
User Interface: And so that stays the same when you have the logo , and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so {gap} it actually would go over top of everything and have holes for the buttons ,
User Interface: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where the logo should be .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: Like a little cut-out kind of {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
User Interface: Right .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: That's like , you know , {gap} a a cellphone it's like the the screen is always just left opened .
Marketing: Right .
User Interface: And so , what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_ ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Anybody see anything that they liked in these ones ?
Marketing: Some of tho Well , some of those buttons though are blue-based .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Um well , a lot of those buttons are blue-based .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Well , kind of . Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact , they could illuminate yellow .
User Interface: Yellow .
Project Manager: Yellow , I like that idea .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Like if we {vocalsound} like the one all the way on the left , uh you ca you can see it on your computer better .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Um where the button is actually blue , but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch buttons .
User Interface: Oh , that one .
Project Manager: I like the yellow illumination idea , very good .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Any other ideas or thoughts ? We all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna do with this project so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Um . Ha hang on {gap} {vocalsound} Let me catch up .
Marketing: Mm yeah .
Project Manager: 'Kay .
User Interface: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we {gap} just everything that we said before ?
Project Manager: I think there will be time for that later . I'm guessing . 'Kay , well we're gonna wrap this up . Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes , and here's what we're each of us going to do . The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design , the U_I_D_ the user interface design . I think you're going to get a lot of , I mean , the final say on what buttons get put {disfmarker} We'll all talk about it , but I think , that's pretty much what you're gonna do , right ?
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I guess . 'Kay . And you're gonna do some product evaluation . Okay , and right now , the I_D_ and U_I_D_ , you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay . {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Great . Play Doh .
User Interface: Fun . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , and you should all be getting an email pretty soon . Alright . Well , thank you for a very productive meeting .
Industrial Designer: Wonderful Ooh .


Marketing: {vocalsound} Hello . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {gap}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Dang it .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} And then you have to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot .
Marketing: Alright .
User Interface: {gap}
Project Manager: It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here .
User Interface: Okay . No , that's okay . Joost , your mouse .
Marketing: What ?
User Interface: No mouse needed ?
Marketing: I've got a touch-pad .
User Interface: Mm .
Marketing: Do you know how how I can wake it up ?
User Interface: A touch-pad ?
Marketing: No , my laptop .
User Interface: Slap it .
Marketing: {vocalsound} You with your brilliant ideas . I don't know if I can touch the power button . Do you know how how I can wake it up ?
User Interface: Is {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No . Yeah . Try the power button .
Marketing: Oh .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Come on , move it .
User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Now , wake up , bitch .
Project Manager: Huh .
User Interface: F_ five . F_ five {gap} .
Industrial Designer: I've lost my screen . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah , so did I .
User Interface: I don't .
Marketing: I closed it . That wasn that wasn't very smart , I guess .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Come on . Get back to me . Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I closed the {disfmarker}
Marketing: I closed it .
User Interface: You've got your name . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , my name is name .
Marketing: No , I didn't restart it , I just closed it . Yes .
User Interface: Hope it working .
Marketing: Alright .
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: Never close your laptop .
Project Manager: Yeah ? Everybody's ready ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Great . Thanks .
Project Manager: Great . Well , welcome to the kick-off meeting . I uh forgot to put my name over here , it's uh {vocalsound} it's Martin . Uh , so you all know .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well , this is the agenda for today . Well , the opening is what I'm doing right now .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh , we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things . Uh give some um examples of the tool training , project plan discussion and the closing . We have twenty five minutes . Okay , the project aim is to design a new remote control .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Uh , some of the {vocalsound} oje objectives are that is has to be original , trendy , and user-friendly . So now we all know what our
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: goal is . Um , I {disfmarker} oh forget {disfmarker} I forget the whole acquaintance part , but we we all know each other . We all know each other's names . Joost , Guido , Antek .
User Interface: What is your name ?
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yes . Antek .
User Interface: Antek Ahmet . And Joost . {gap}
Project Manager: Okay . I think we uh al already uh been through that part .
User Interface: Okay . Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , it consists of uh three levels of design . Uh we begin with the functional design , then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design . Every uh level of design consists of some individual work , and we uh close it with a meeting . You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions , and uh you p you probably read that already , so I don't have to tell you about that .
User Interface: Yes .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools . We have the smart-boards , uh the thes those two boards . This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now . You can uh um {disfmarker} there's a document folder called um the sh {vocalsound} shared document folder . You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen . We also have the white-board . Uh , we're gonna skip through th
User Interface: Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?
Project Manager: No , no . Just on the on the screen over there .
User Interface: No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board that X_B_K_ but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh , no . Probably is , but I don't know if the software is on the laptop {gap} . Is is {disfmarker} if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's {disfmarker} I don't know if it's important .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: This an explanation of the smart-boards . There is a tool-bar over here . It's quite simple . You have the the pen function , eraser function . It's like a very simple uh paint application . Uh , we {disfmarker} well , we use the same file during uh the whole day , and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button . It works like this . Oh . {vocalsound} If pen is selected , yes .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh , no no .
User Interface: With that pen ?
Project Manager: It's not {disfmarker} But it is pen . It's not working like a pen yet .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Huh . Huh .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: It's doing some stuff now . So you can use a pen .
User Interface: Little bit slower .
Project Manager: You can use an eraser . And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks , and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward , which y you have to select pen format . And then select current colour or line width . So , it's quite easy . Uh well , now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools . Right , we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards . Uh , every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: on blank sheets with different colours , with different pen widths . Uh , I'll start off then . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: I'll use this uh same sheet . Alright . Oh , let me think . Different colours . Oh .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Well , I'm gonna draw um a p piranha . Uh , a fish .
User Interface: {vocalsound} piranha . Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . I'm gonna use some different colour {gap} now .
User Interface: Oh .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Some {disfmarker} a little white . Looks like a fish . Think it is . Oh .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh . {vocalsound} Uh , colour . This is black ? I think so .
User Interface: Yellow {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh . Oh , this is just uh {vocalsound} useless uh drawings but {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh teeth . I need teeth . {vocalsound} Well , they're not supposed to be green , or whatever colour this is .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: Okay . What was uh {disfmarker} I have su to sum up its favourite characteris
User Interface: Different .
Project Manager: Well , I like its uh sharp {disfmarker} razor sharp teeth . {vocalsound} Plus , uh the the big uh forehead and uh a small uh , well a small actual face . And I like its overall uh aggressive look and {disfmarker} Well , that's what I like about uh piranha . I think that's kind of what uh the intention should be .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: Well , who wants to be next ?
Marketing: Nobody , I guess . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} I will try . Yeah . I will try . Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You go , Guido ? Okay . Uh , make a new sheet . Uh , it's by pressing on blank .
User Interface: Blank ?
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: Okay . Then pen again ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yep .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker} so in the format menu you can choose the different uh colours and uh pen widths .
User Interface: Okay , um {disfmarker}
Marketing: Format .
User Interface: {gap} control . Uh {disfmarker} Ah , purple . Um , I don't know what my uh favourite uh animal is ,
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: but the easiest animal I can think is is a bird .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh I will {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} You know , I thought of that actually .
User Interface: That's my bird . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah ?
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Isn't it quite {disfmarker} it's a little bit light .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh , another colour maybe . A red one .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: A small one . Uh , line width . Two ? Three . Oh that's okay . That's another one .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well , tell us something about uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular birds .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Ano {vocalsound} Uh {vocalsound} uh {vocalsound} it's a {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Its simplicity . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah , it's uh the most simple uh animal I know , I think .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Um , I don't know . Maybe because uh there's there's some s uh free uh maybe in the sky or something like that .
Project Manager: Oh , okay . Okay .
User Interface: Maybe a little bit . Yeah . I don't know .
Project Manager: Okay . No , uh it's clear .
User Interface: So {gap} more uh birds ?
Project Manager: N no {vocalsound} no .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: We get your point . Okay . Who wants to be next ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} Okay , {vocalsound} okay , {vocalsound} okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , whatever . I'll go next .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Thanks .
User Interface: M
Marketing: I haven't got a favourite animal too , so {disfmarker}
User Interface: Pictionary . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Oh . {vocalsound} What should I draw ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh .
User Interface: A cow .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: Thank you ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I'll draw a penguin . {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} I'll draw a penguin . Whatever . I can't draw , so you can start to laugh already .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I'll do so . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Whatever . Something like that .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Come on .
User Interface: Yeah , it's little bit hard .
Marketing: Mm hmm hmm , orange .
User Interface: Orange , of course .
Marketing: Whatever .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh , {vocalsound} it's better than your bird .
User Interface: {gap} Uh yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Everything's better than your bird .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} True .
Marketing: Whatever .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hey , it's blue . No . Whatever . Um , I like its ugliness {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: and uh {disfmarker} Yeah , whatever . The way it walks or whatever .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Your turn .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: 'Kay . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Drawing . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I'm going to draw a cat . I don't know why , but a cat is a very uh smart animal .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: And you can have them at home .
User Interface: {gap}
Industrial Designer: Which is not as the case with uh with bingwings and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well , you can have a piranha at home .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ye yes , {vocalsound} yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Huh .
Marketing: Or a line .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: A little bit . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I mean a bird . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound} Don't mess with my birds , yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's not very uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} very good drawn , but you can see a cat from it . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Hmm . It's a handicapped cat .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} cat .
Project Manager: I don't think uh I don't think uh Darwin would agree with that . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's {gap} {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ah , it's not scared . He's crying but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} . Okay .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} He's crying because it's ugl because of his ugliness .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} What do you like about it then ?
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh it's i most cats are small .
Project Manager: Oh , okay .
Industrial Designer: You can handle them . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . Okay . Okay ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: and then we are uh through the tool training , I guess .
User Interface: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I wouldn't call it training , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , this is uh something about the project finance . The selling price of our remote control is gonna be twenty five Euros . And our profit aim is fifteen million Euros . We're very ambitious on this one . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: The market range is international , so it's gonna be sold world-wide , and the production cost should be a maximum of twelve Euro fifty per remote control . So that's clear . {gap} {disfmarker} Yeah ?
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
Project Manager: Okay , we're now gonna discuss some stuff when {disfmarker} well , we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be . Uh , well tell me about your experiences with the remote controls . Do you have uh {disfmarker} know what good experiences with remote controls ? Or do they annoy you sometimes ?
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Are they difficult to understand , or maybe they don't interact with different kind of uh equipment very well ?
User Interface: Hmm .
Marketing: I don't th I don't think the four of us got problems with remote controls ,
Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
Marketing: but if you see elderly people , all these buttons , and then they buy new T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever .
User Interface: Different .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places , and half of the functions a are removed , or whatever . Uh , so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons , you know . All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Different functions of of uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well , one area or whatever , not like the button to enter text on top of the remote control and the button to um , yeah , to minimise it to this this {vocalsound} {disfmarker} or whatever o o other functions {vocalsound} totally somewhere else .
Project Manager: Okay . Yeah .
Marketing: I think we should group them .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: And same for the for the volume buttons and the the t
Project Manager: And uh , is it gonna be a remote control that's um {disfmarker} what it can be used for different kind of equipment , like your T_V_ and your home stereo ?
Marketing: Well I was I was thinking uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or recorder , and not with a stereo , I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players , recorders .
Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . But uh , the D_V_D_ players and home cinema sets often double as stereo hi-fi sets probably .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: It's what , from my experience .
User Interface: But isn't it {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: I don't know . Hi-fi set is uh not often used uh as I know of in combination with television .
Project Manager: Okay . But we gonna {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's only for television , I thought . Not {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .
Project Manager: Oh , it is only for televis
User Interface: {gap} I thought it was only for television . So so we probably don't have to have to uh have the functions for D_V_D_ player or V_C_R_ .
Marketing: Yes , it is only for television , but uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So wha what {disfmarker} What wha {vocalsound} what uh what document {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well {disfmarker} well we we're gonna brainstorm about that . If we think it's useful , we do it .
Project Manager: But , where where did it uh {disfmarker} Where did you find that ?
User Interface: Uh , in the email .
Project Manager: Oh , okay .
User Interface: I thought it said uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: That's right . It's a television remote control .
User Interface: Yeah , television remote control .
Industrial Designer: Yes , {gap} {disfmarker}
Marketing: But I was thinking since it is useful with D_V_D_ {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but most television remote controls support other functions as well . So we can {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , that's uh something extras .
Project Manager: No , we have to think about that .
User Interface: True . Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , uh but uh we've gonna put some a uh is is it so user-friendliness , is a is a pri priority in this case , or {disfmarker}
User Interface: True .
Marketing: Yep .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , also no one's gonna buy it .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Yeah . True .
Industrial Designer: Only the experts . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I guess .
Project Manager: Well , this the maybe is uh some aspect of the {disfmarker} uh , or or some point at at which we can excel by making it very useful .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: That w Well , then you're you're the usability uh man , so this uh gonna be a very important task for you then .
User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh my God . Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay . Well , other ideas ? How can we make it trendy or something ? Do uh by just sh shape and the look of it ?
Industrial Designer: Uh , to go with to go with fashion and {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Maybe a can opener underneath it ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} For the bear . Uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} I don't know . Or someth something special , like uh M_P_ three player inside of it , or uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: I I uh , no I think it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Oh , well then the production costs are gonna be too high probably .
User Interface: Uh , I th I think yo we have to keep it simple , to get a whole market .
Marketing: Yeah , way too high . Yep .
Project Manager: Okay . Maybe with different type of fronts or uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's international , so we have to use a standard .
Project Manager: Well , m has to be something {vocalsound} spectacular or uh one which makes it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well that's an idea of course , yeah .
Project Manager: We gonna skip back to the goals probably . Uh ,
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: original , trendly , and user-friendly {disfmarker} Well , we al also already talked about user-friendliness .
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: No , well something trendy and original , well that that goes hand in hand I guess . When something is original , it tends to be trendy , probably ,
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: or we should make it combination of that . 'Kay , so you {vocalsound} {disfmarker} the um technical part of the process is something you're gonna look after for , so you have to think about what kind of uh equipment you want to uh , you know , you want to manage with it . Well , and that's an important part for you then , with gogors regards to the user-friendly part of it .
User Interface: Use friendly . Yep .
Project Manager: Well , and you uh should look out for what makes it trendy . {vocalsound} Well , you know , y like some special feature . Or some {disfmarker} {gap} Does it does it gets some gadgetness or something .
Marketing: Yeah . Yes , what the market wishes .
Project Manager: Okay . Well , the closing . Next meeting starts in thirty minutes . Individual , I think so . The the Industrial Designer will w or the working design , of course , we will uh {disfmarker} Already s said that . The User Interface Designer {vocalsound} {disfmarker} is it a User Inter User Interface {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , yeah . Interface d
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: the technical functions design . And the Management Expert of uh {disfmarker} the Marketing Expert . User requirements specifi Well , this one was already clear to us . Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach . I don't know how much time we have left .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Oh , not many I guess . We started at twelve .
Marketing: You just got a message .
Project Manager: Oh , and what does it said ?
Marketing: And it said uh five minutes , so we got four and a half .
User Interface: Oh , I don't {disfmarker}
Project Manager: W Okay , well um {disfmarker}
User Interface: I didn't get a message .
Marketing: No . He's the whatever .
User Interface: Oh , the Project Manager .
Industrial Designer: Team Leader . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No , we're uh ahead of schedule then .
Marketing: Team Leader . {vocalsound} He is the whatever . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , close it . I'm gonna make some minutes or take some minutes . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .
Project Manager: And uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations .
User Interface: Okay .
Project Manager: You can all {disfmarker} Or we're all uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Project joc project documents is for showing uh on the white-board .
Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , but we're all familiar with uh uh Microsoft PowerPoint , are we ?
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: I'm gonna wri uh write some stuff down
Marketing: Alright .
Project Manager: and then we're ready .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Or we can leave already {gap} I guess .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Project Manager: {gap} or uh or sh or should we uh {disfmarker} or is important that we leave at exact uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: No . I don't think so .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I don't think {disfmarker} Oh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes ?
Project Manager: Yes .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh .
Marketing: Great .
Project Manager: We'll see each other in uh thirty minutes .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . Good luck .
Project Manager: Yeah , good luck .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I will need it . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I will need it . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}


User Interface: Oops .
Project Manager: So , hello everyone . {vocalsound} We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a {disfmarker} f for the beginning of new project um {vocalsound} uh remote control for the design for a new remote control {vocalsound} . I'm the Project Manager Christa Pavlov and {vocalsound} okay let's begin . {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan , some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting . So um we want to to do a new remote control . It has to be original , trendy and user friendly .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design , it's conceptual design , and desail detailed design . {gap} and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day . Um , so {vocalsound} let's try the whiteboard {vocalsound} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Wow . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um so any of you who want to go .
User Interface: Yeah , for favourite animals .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's gonna be not my favourite one but the one I can draw .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} And it's gonna be {disfmarker} you'll try to guess .
Marketing: Wow . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Complex .
Project Manager: Wow . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Huh ? A cat .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: No . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: No . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: No . Darn . {vocalsound} Uh .
Project Manager: A rabbit .
User Interface: Yes , that's a rabbit .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} A rabbit .
User Interface: That's my favourite one .
Marketing: A what ?
Industrial Designer: Rabbit .
Marketing: A r a rabbit , oh oh yeah , where is the carrot ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} That's it .
Marketing: Okay {vocalsound} mm-hmm .
Project Manager: You want to go ?
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I am not very good at uh {vocalsound} this kind of stuff .
User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: My favourite animal is {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You wa
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Wow . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: A human
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Guess .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} ah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} A human , yay . It's a very complex animal {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: No .
Marketing: and um {disfmarker} yeah . Characteristics of this this animal is {vocalsound} dangerous . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm I think you're supposed to , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Is the white {disfmarker} okay .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: I guess you can {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Wow . That's cobra .
Marketing: Ah , a kind of uh snake ? Cobra ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah uh not really .
Marketing: Exactly {vocalsound} . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Small cobra . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: No , it just {disfmarker} small cobra , yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Is that a worm ? Or {vocalsound} {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh-huh . {vocalsound}
User Interface: It's co c quite recognisable . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} What about you uh {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh yeah Christa Pavlov {vocalsound} Mm .
Marketing: Christa ? {vocalsound}
User Interface: Christa {vocalsound} Christa .
Industrial Designer: Chris . {vocalsound}
Marketing: A fish . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm .
User Interface: Hmm .
Project Manager: Smiling fish {vocalsound} .
Industrial Designer: Smile fish . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: A smiling fish . {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So , w whiteboard is working ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Good . {vocalsound} Next . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Next . Let's talk about money .
User Interface: Just tr try to guess who is a User Interface Designer .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , well . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} According to the drawings .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , you're {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Not me . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So .
Marketing: So . Twenty five Euro for a remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah , mm that's the price we want to {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Project Manager: that's the aim for the price for the remote control .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: We aim to do {vocalsound} this profit . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} On the international market .
Marketing: {vocalsound} 'tis big number .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , we're to sell two million then .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Wow .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm {vocalsound} for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum . {vocalsound} 'Kay {vocalsound} . So any of you have experience in remote controls ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .
Marketing: Uh yes , we have plenty at home .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} In fact , my daughter likes l {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound} remote controls .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} That {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm . To eat ? {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: To eat ? Yeah , mainly , and to break . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} So that could be a great um {vocalsound} application .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Remote controls children proof . Mm mm-hmm .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yeah .
User Interface: Children proof .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Ye ye yeah .
User Interface: Hmm .
Marketing: So she likes uh buttons {vocalsound} which make click ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , pret
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: so {vocalsound} it has to click .
Project Manager: So they have to be waterproof maybe ?
Marketing: It has to be uh wha {vocalsound} baby proof {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Cause they eat {disfmarker} she ate it . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: yeah {vocalsound} but mainly it has to be very robust
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: because even if she's not very tall she's uh {vocalsound} high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ah .
Marketing: So it has to be very robust .
User Interface: Okay , unbreakable .
Marketing: Unbreakable , yeah .
User Interface: Uh-huh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , we have some child lock or something , yeah .
Marketing: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: And uh {vocalsound} it has to be nice looking ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: colourful , maybe {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Colourful , yeah mm .
User Interface: Colourful ? That's not practical .
Marketing: colourful , because uh nobody has colourful remote control
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: No , that's a good idea .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's always black or {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: , they're always black , yeah ,
Project Manager: Mm mm-mm .
User Interface: No .
Marketing: but this one could be I dunno , purple or b
Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: But how gonna {disfmarker} okay , just uh but it's uh monochrome it's n it's not like {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah .
Project Manager: No ,
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Project Manager: because you think , why not .
User Interface: Otherwise you will never find it .
Marketing: One colour .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah even we can change colours , no ? Like the uh
Marketing: Oh like the phones ,
Industrial Designer: like the phones and these things we c yeah .
Marketing: yeah , it could change colours , yeah .
User Interface: Cool .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: At least for children like one colour and {gap} . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Ch
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Good idea .
Marketing: Good .
Industrial Designer: And it should be really {gap} small and {gap} .
Project Manager: Small also ? Don't you think {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Huh not so big like {disfmarker} yeah .
Project Manager: No uh , not too much buttons or {disfmarker} mm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , not too much buttons and {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Should it be , y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television , then it's the remote control for the the sound system , or for your refrigerator
Industrial Designer: Uh . Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah ,
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} whatever {vocalsound}
Project Manager: that's {disfmarker}
Marketing: I dunno if it's {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Or if we should have a targeted re remote control .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound} So colour , robustness , easy to use , size ,
Project Manager: So , I think there's {disfmarker}
Marketing: yeah , size matters , yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Colour , {vocalsound} size , sh
Project Manager: So you you think it's better if small than bigger .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , maybe at least n not bigger than this I guess . {vocalsound}
Marketing: Mm .
User Interface: Yeah , but without any extremes like n not of this size , not too large . Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: No , not too small , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , at least it should hold in your hand n properly , like {gap} .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Hmm .
User Interface: Yeah , like a palm sized .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Just to hold it .
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: But uh what would be different from this , from the others ? I dunno if {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh maybe we can change the colours that {disfmarker} at least the frame . Mm . S so then it depends {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , at least the colour would be different .
Industrial Designer: you are to {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm .
Industrial Designer: Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame {gap} .
Marketing: I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're {disfmarker} they never find a good button in the right place .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
Marketing: For some reason they they they click the off button when they want to use the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow ,
Project Manager: Mm . So , some kind of idea uh with um um {vocalsound} cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what {disfmarker}
Marketing: I dunno {gap} .
User Interface: No ,
Project Manager: no .
User Interface: no screens , it's too complex .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound} Too expensive , yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Too expensive for twelve Euro ?
User Interface: And n maybe not too expensive ,
Project Manager: And too expensive .
User Interface: well it's not my problem , but well okay .
Marketing: Ah .
User Interface: But no screens on remote controls .
Project Manager: Mm .
Marketing: Mm-hmm . I thought it could be only a screen {vocalsound} which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user .
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: So ma I prefer to have the off button at the top right ,
Industrial Designer: Ye yeah .
Marketing: so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch screen remote control ,
Industrial Designer: Hmm .
Marketing: if you {disfmarker} if you like .
Industrial Designer: I mean it it's like
Marketing: I don't know if it makes sense , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Mm-mm .
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} it's like two types no ? {vocalsound} people are right handed or left handed so y because I am left handed I use like this , say if you're right handed you use like this
Marketing: Yeah , for instance , mm .
User Interface: Mm-hmm , mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm mm mm .
Industrial Designer: or {disfmarker} so tha your switch on and off should be on
Marketing: Mm .
Project Manager: So adaptable {vocalsound} {disfmarker} yeah something {disfmarker}
User Interface: Adaptable . Alright , good ,
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Maybe , if if it's possible , yeah .
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Mm {vocalsound}
User Interface: so how many actions do we need to implement in it ?
Industrial Designer: huh .
User Interface: On off ?
Industrial Designer: Maybe I think even we can keep two switches and then we can uh only make one working .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
Industrial Designer: We can adapt only one switch , suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations .
User Interface: I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a
Industrial Designer: Two .
Marketing: Three buttons you mean ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} like three mental states ,
Project Manager: Three option .
User Interface: yeah you know what I mean ,
Marketing: Ah . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: we can just make it uh
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah .
Project Manager: Um .
User Interface: controlled by a brain , huh ? {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm , yeah , sure . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Maybe if it's more , if there is a software inside
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: that ask you three {disfmarker}
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Hmm .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} If it {disfmarker} if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button , three mm possibilities , ye yeah .
User Interface: Sh sure , sure .
Marketing: Yeah , more than three actions that you may want to do at a given time .
Industrial Designer: Mm yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound}
User Interface: But for standard actions you usually what do you do , you change channels , you adjust volume , and nothing else .
Marketing: Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have {disfmarker} you can just go to the next one or go to channel twenty five .
Industrial Designer: Mm . Yeah .
Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound}
Marketing: And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty five . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: You do this ?
Industrial Designer: Yeah {vocalsound} .
Marketing: Uh no .
User Interface: I usually just change channels .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Because I'm only using three or four channels but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put {disfmarker} yeah , you can only have one bit .
Project Manager: Yeah . I change channel like this , m uh I want to go to twenty five , and then to ten , uh-huh mm yeah .
Industrial Designer: Dash .
Marketing: And then back to the one I was before ,
Project Manager: Also we can be here {disfmarker}
Marketing: so there's {disfmarker} whichever it was .
User Interface: Uh-huh .
Industrial Designer: Yeah you can
Project Manager: yeah , that would be cool .
Industrial Designer: {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Go back button is good .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah . Uh uh we had that in in other countries .
User Interface: I once had it .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , the previous button is {gap} .
Project Manager: Mm {vocalsound} yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah e even the history so you could like uh undo {vocalsound} previous of the previous . {vocalsound}
User Interface: Mm-hmm .
Industrial Designer: Uh , okay . {vocalsound}
User Interface: History . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Oh {vocalsound} uh {vocalsound} .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Then you can watch what your {disfmarker} ah you could also record your {disfmarker} record your {vocalsound} sequence of actions ,
Industrial Designer: Uh .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} that becomes more complex ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: but you could look at what uh the other people have used there or {disfmarker} {vocalsound} remote controls .
Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah , what the {disfmarker} which channels the viewer {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm-mm .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
Marketing: maybe it's a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: So I think we have full of idea .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Um we're going to meet again in thirty minutes and uh I want you to mm {vocalsound} work on these ideas and try to make a uh {vocalsound} the ones , {vocalsound} make um {disfmarker} to decide what what are the ones important and what are the one that we don't want . {vocalsound} And um m maybe more in the technical parts what uh do we want to do . Um . {vocalsound} So um your personal coach will send you some instruction for for this thirty minutes .
Marketing: So what does M_E_ means ? M_E_ the user requirements ? Or that's uh that's for us ?
User Interface: Market Expert .
Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Marketing {disfmarker} yeah {vocalsound} {gap} .
Marketing: Uh that's me .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh , of course {vocalsound} yeah , the user requirement specifications , uh-huh , yeah .
Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} I'll think of that .
Project Manager: Mm okay . So .
Marketing: So ?
Project Manager: I think that's all .
Marketing: Meeting's over ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Great .
Industrial Designer: Thank you .
Marketing: Thank you .
Project Manager: See you in thirty minutes .
User Interface: Thank you everybody .