Project Manager: Okay , welcome to the detailed design meeting . Again , I'm gonna take minutes . Oh , we're gonna have a prototype presentation first .
User Interface: {gap}
Project Manager: Uh , who's gonna give the prototype presentation ? You two guys ? Okay . Go ahead .
Industrial Designer: Yes . {vocalsound} {gap}
User Interface: {gap} .
Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {gap} coffee .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: 'Kay , we've made a prototype . Um , we've got uh {vocalsound} uh our aspects from the last meeting . Uh , especially we looked at the form , material and the colour . Um , we've uh drawn here the p prototype . The logo is uh is uh {vocalsound} is pretty uh {vocalsound} obvious to see on the on the remote control ,
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher . Um , {vocalsound} our interface elements , there are shown in the in the drawing . Maybe you can uh point them uh {disfmarker} The functions .
User Interface: Uh , well the uh {disfmarker} all the functions are discussed uh {disfmarker} I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious . Uh , it's a little bit . Uh , power button . Uh then the the the nine uh channels .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
User Interface: Uh the volume uh uh at the side , and the other side is the programmes . And then we had uh just uh two buttons , we place them in the middle , uh the menu , and for the teletext
Project Manager: Oh no , the the the mute button misses now .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {disfmarker} I thought that was th
Marketing: Alright , I {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Do y do you {disfmarker}
User Interface: Oh , the mute button .
Project Manager: did we want to have a m mute button ?
Industrial Designer: But uh that {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's uh here then , in the middle .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Huh .
Marketing: Alright , and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button and which is the programme button .
Industrial Designer: Yes , um
User Interface: {vocalsound} Well , yeah mo uh mo
Industrial Designer: we've disc
User Interface: Yeah , well most of them are right-handed .
Industrial Designer: Most of the users
Marketing: Yeah , but you you gotta make it clear on the {disfmarker} on {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah well , I don't have time in uh anymore on the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , y there there will be a p a little a little P_ on that and a little uh {disfmarker} yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , and a and a triangle on that .
User Interface: Oh yeah , just progr programme above , I think .
Marketing: Yes . Next to that I kinda miss a zero actually .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Wait , there's {disfmarker} was one thing I wanted to ask .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh , there are different ways for remote controls to uh {vocalsound} do uh like
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: uh d I call it teens and twenties . Uh , y th th th the two numbers .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: All n no , that's um {vocalsound} kinda dependent on the television .
User Interface: Yeah , true , yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's a television . Yes .
Project Manager: Yeah , but do we have {disfmarker} do we need extra buttons ,
User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} for example some uh some have to {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh I think so .
Marketing: I think {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , yes , you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it , uh th with the one and a double uh uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , I think you should add {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: Zero ?
Marketing: A cross , or whatever . Yeah , line .
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't you don't actually need them ,
User Interface: May maybe here ?
Industrial Designer: yes .
Project Manager: becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the one first , then you have a couple of seconds {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . And then a second .
Marketing: No , that's dependent on the television .
Project Manager: No , I don't think so .
Industrial Designer: Yes , you have televisions , then you have to , you know , you have to uh press {disfmarker}
Marketing: I do know so .
User Interface: Is it depending on television ?
Project Manager: Nah , I don't think so really ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: because you have a {disfmarker} I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons , but you still can , know , obviously you can still select the twenty {disfmarker} uh a number in the twenty or in the ten .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but but a lot {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes , but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} they come with the television . Or actually , the other way around .
Project Manager: No , I think {disfmarker} uh I really think it's n
Marketing: But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: because you can {disfmarker} when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash , it's the same thing as when you just push the one ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: because it i it first gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to uh apply .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but
Marketing: Yeah , well {disfmarker} but su {vocalsound} If {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: some televisions don't accept uh that that {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , because that's i it's for television . It's exact the same thing .
Industrial Designer: No , no , but s
Marketing: No no no . So some television respond differently . Look , if uh i i
Project Manager: No , listen listen . When you push the button , the remote control gives a signal . I in th in the first place it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it .
Marketing: Yes . Yes , that's true .
Project Manager: The one with dash , that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds , then the remote control gives a signal for channel one .
User Interface: Yeah . True .
Marketing: No {disfmarker}
Project Manager: I think it works that way , really .
Marketing: No , it it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it , uh if you push a one , then on your television there will appear a one and a a line , which is an empty space .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , but it's exact the same {gap} that w would appear when you put a separate button {disfmarker} push a separate button .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but some some old televisions uh you have to uh click on uh a special button , uh then you go to a a next level , you can push two buttons .
Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't underst uh you don't understand my point .
Marketing: Yep . {vocalsound} True .
Project Manager: I think it's exact the same thing when y
Industrial Designer: You want {disfmarker} Yes , but some television don't support it .
Project Manager: No , but then they would a would also support that button , because it's the same thing .
User Interface: But the ex
Project Manager: Listen , with {disfmarker} that that's that special but button {gap} you're talking about , eh ? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in {disfmarker} on your screen and a dash , which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it . When you don't have that separate button , and you push y one , it's exactly the same thing . Do y you {disfmarker} the remote control gives that same signal as it would give when you only had {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No ,
Marketing: No , s some some televisions need the input first uh and and you c
Industrial Designer: a remote can {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes ,
Project Manager: But you give the input .
Industrial Designer: so they need {disfmarker} no , they need {disfmarker}
Project Manager: You push the one . That's the same thing as the button with the one and it {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , that's not true .
Project Manager: yes it it is .
Marketing: It's simply not true . It's simply not true .
Project Manager: Think about it .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No ,
User Interface: You uh you can wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash , and then wait uh two uh seconds or something {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And it's the same thing what happens and a g remote control gives another signal after five seconds that is just one .
Marketing: No , remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds . Remote control is a stupid thing . If you push a button , it sends it immediately to to the television .
Project Manager: Yeah , that's true . Yeah , but I m uh but it's {disfmarker} I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the remote control supplied , only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash , but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons , it still works .
Industrial Designer: Yeah , it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: But okay , we we'll impl
Marketing: No , definitely not . Definitely not .
User Interface: We'll discuss them in the usability lab .
Project Manager: No , we'll apply them then for now .
User Interface: Uh eva evaluation .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's it's necessary .
Project Manager: Yeah , app just apply them next to the zero , the one and the two .
User Interface: Yeah ?
Project Manager: Yeah , I think so . Yeah , for now , if we don't know for sure whether {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .
Industrial Designer: And the button for the SCART uh audio video uh external input .
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: Ach .
Project Manager: Yeah but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh , you can access that uh via zero , and then minus , I guess .
Project Manager: okay . {vocalsound} What I said about uh the remote control sending another signal , that that might not be true ,
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: but I still think i it it {disfmarker} all T_V_s in some ways support it , I don't know . I think it's more c is m maybe we don't {disfmarker} uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works ,
Industrial Designer: No , no .
Project Manager: but I think there's more to in than wha than what you just said .
Industrial Designer: Uh , remote control sends one signal at one button uh press .
Project Manager: I do think that uh m T_V_s support mur multiple kind of remote controls . M
Industrial Designer: Uh , some {disfmarker} N some televisions when when you want to go further than uh ten {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Th won't work wi with uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No , you have to you have to uh give the television uh two or more signals .
Project Manager: to have that special button .
Industrial Designer: When you uh press one button , you give one signal . And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , well we'll see .
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals , it could work , but {disfmarker} Just a basic idea of of of the most uh {disfmarker} most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the remote .
Marketing: Okay . I kinda miss the docking station .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes . It's here on the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} Well it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: yeah , uh there's nothing {disfmarker} I think it's pretty basic ,
Industrial Designer: We came uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: the the {disfmarker} there's no fu
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: there's one there's one button ,
Marketing: No nothing really trendy about it .
User Interface: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one button when you want to find it .
Industrial Designer: But maybe we can maybe we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell ,
Marketing: The button .
Industrial Designer: because Real {vocalsound} Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls . So maybe we can uh use the docking station , for example , uh M_P_ three players or or uh
Marketing: Yep .
Industrial Designer: uh hearing devices .
Marketing: I think that's very difficult , because of different shapes of uh uh devices .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but when you put that same volt voltages on it , you can put uh {disfmarker} when the when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it , when it's o the same as the other products , you can put it all on the same uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , of course . Mm-hmm . Well it it got it {disfmarker} it has got to fit into the shape , of course .
Industrial Designer: Yes , but we can make {disfmarker}
Marketing: The technology and the voltage can be the same . That's uh that's true . But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this , then they all fit .
Industrial Designer: No , we can make uh make the most lowest part all the same .
Marketing: Yeah , that's true , but uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out , we can place all on top of it . Just have to be big enough for the biggest {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes , but uh I I g Shouldn't it fall then ? It {disfmarker} isn't going to fall down ? {vocalsound} That's a bit uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No , when you make it large enough no it it will not .
Marketing: yeah , I think {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But then it's a little bit {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , but if if {disfmarker} like this , I'll I'll point it out , if you got uh a a a base a base like this ,
Industrial Designer: But it's just an idea .
Marketing: I won't draw it really . If you got a base which is uh as big as this {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But it's flat it's flat as as this , so we can p make all the products as flat as this .
User Interface: You can . But i i i it's backwards .
Marketing: Yeah sure , but if you got if you got a tiny player , it can {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes , but when you make uh uh a bit of big {gap} {disfmarker}
User Interface: But it's it's backwards . It's leaning . It's leaning backwards , I think , in the in the docking station .
Marketing: Yeah . Uh , wha what you could do if you uh {disfmarker} from the bottom {disfmarker}
User Interface: That's text . {vocalsound}
Marketing: oh , right , help .
Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , you could make like a hole in it , you know , of uh {disfmarker} in in the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , little holer {disfmarker} littler {disfmarker} Uh , little products go deeper in it .
Marketing: Yeah . That i that is possible , yep .
Project Manager: Well let's ha let's talk about the docking station later , because uh maybe we have we have to uh consider the docking station anyway , because we have some uh cost issues {vocalsound} still to come .
Marketing: Yeah , sure , you're right .
Industrial Designer: Yes . And uh uh
Marketing: Oh .
Project Manager: But we have to look n I don't know .
Industrial Designer: the f the look and feel would be great on this uh remote control , because uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in the in the smallest uh area .
Marketing: I don't like the colours . Mm-hmm .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Then your uh left thumb of uh {disfmarker} your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button , which is the most common used uh function , and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: So it's it's it's really good design .
Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
Project Manager: Yes . That's it ?
Industrial Designer: Yes , uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber , and in the middle uh there is uh a hard uh a hard material , a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it .
Marketing: The light . Okay . And other lights ?
Project Manager: I think added lights are gonna be a problem too .
Industrial Designer: Yes , we can make also n neon lights on it , or or the buttons that can make uh light on it .
Marketing: No , o on the on the front . Yeah , okay . Maybe the uh the logo .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: {gap} lights ?
Industrial Designer: But , it will also uh uh use batteries ,
Marketing: Yeah , why not ?
Industrial Designer: and do we want to {disfmarker}
Marketing: Of course .
Project Manager: Okay . For now , uh this is uh is good enough .
User Interface: Mm .
Project Manager: Yeah , what was uh on the {disfmarker}
Marketing: Okay .
Industrial Designer: The {disfmarker} all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , but in the {disfmarker} oh yeah , the colour , because we're gonna use uh one colour for the the plastic enclosure and one colour for the rubber , isn't it ? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: And they're be a {disfmarker} {gap} they'll be in the same colour as the rubber on the side .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Uh , in the same colour as the side .
User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I think I think that'll be good .
Project Manager: Okay . And I think we should use a a darker colour for the um plastic , and maybe some more m brighter and flashy stuff {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , maybe we can use on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights ,
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: so it will uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , we'll talk about the lights later . 'Cause I also don yeah ,
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Yep .
Project Manager: it's depends on the costs and such . But uh , and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: but may I dunno if that's important , but we'll talk about that later . Okay , for now this is this is okay .
Marketing: We will .
Project Manager: Um , the next p y you gonna give a presentation too ? Uh , I have to see the agenda .
Industrial Designer: No .
Marketing: Well , uh yeah , I I'm gonna do something right there , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {gap}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Detail design .
Marketing: We gotta do that on the right {vocalsound} {disfmarker} the most {disfmarker} right-most screen , because the leftmost {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Evaluation criteria .
Marketing: Yep , that's me .
Project Manager: Okay .
User Interface: Okay .
Marketing: Alright . I will be needing that image , so leave it please . Um {disfmarker} Go away . Right , we're gonna evaluate that design according to a few points . {vocalsound} Um , we g the four of us are going to do that um together .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I wanna have a colour over here , come on . Right , the remote {vocalsound} is not ugly , a bit weird sentence , but the positive things has to be on the left , so I {vocalsound} said not ugly instead of ugly .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , what would you say , we we gotta give points to uh to all of these to evaluate uh that design , and please forget the drawing skills of these guys .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} The remote control is not ugly . How do you feel ?
Project Manager: Yeah , I think four maybe would be appropriate , because it's {disfmarker} Yeah , maybe it really depends on taste . Uh , I mean it's kind of {gap} , our design . It's {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes .
Project Manager: so if maybe a lot of people find it really ugly , you know , o other people find it really cool .
Industrial Designer: Yeah .
Marketing: Background colour .
Project Manager: I don't know or uh I don't know how you {disfmarker} Casting . Yeah .
Industrial Designer: I think I think the the fronts will give it a more uh uh uh less uglier uh side , because you can uh make it in your own {disfmarker}
Marketing: How do you guys feel ? The different designs .
Industrial Designer: yes , you can make it in your own uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: more to your own personality or or house style .
Marketing: Okay .
Project Manager: Yeah , but we d we didn't {disfmarker} we're we're not planning to use fronts , I believe .
Marketing: No , not not fronts , but different designs .
Project Manager: With a colour a co a colours . Oh , okay .
User Interface: No , not fronts . Different designs . Different colours maybe , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: And that's still uh uh , yeah , is is uh is a little personal touch , I guess .
Project Manager: Okay , but {disfmarker} Oh , maybe we should do three or something that w you know , our {disfmarker}
Marketing: What ? Yeah , wha wha what would you uh guys uh think ? Personally .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: Or forty . {vocalsound}
User Interface: We can make it a one .
Marketing: Personally . Yes , but what is it ?
Industrial Designer: I think two or three .
User Interface: Mm yeah .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Guido ?
User Interface: I agree .
Marketing: Two or three .
User Interface: Um , I uh I go for the positive . So I go for two .
Marketing: I was {disfmarker} I was thinking about three , so I guess
Project Manager: Uh , I was thinking about four , so I think three is uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Okay , three .
Marketing: three is uh a bit uh {disfmarker} oh , what am I doing ? I'll mark it . The remote control's uh uh that n makes uh zapping easy .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah well , let that {disfmarker} let's make that a one . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: Two . One . One .
Marketing: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Antek , you agree ?
User Interface: Okay yeah , I'll I'll agree .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: That's one thing for sure .
Marketing: Yeah . You're not Antek .
User Interface: I'm the I'm the usability , so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Marketing: I totally agree . The remote control the remote control's relevant buttons are prominently visible .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Yeah , two or a one , I guess .
User Interface: The {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's something we really put work into .
Marketing: Yeah , I {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: It's all about the buttons .
Marketing: I would say a one because uh every button is uh uh relevant . {vocalsound} And our {disfmarker} oh yeah , it's a b yeah . Yeah ? Alright . That's a one ? You agree ?
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: The remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons . I think we totally succeeded there .
Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well maybe a two , because of the menu button or something .
Marketing: Oh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , well menu {disfmarker} Yeah , maybe .
Marketing: Yeah , that's true . That's true .
Project Manager: And telete
Industrial Designer: Also , the the the buttons of the one , the two , the the digits ,
Project Manager: Yeah , we don't know if the {disfmarker} uh they're necessary .
Industrial Designer: o they're used uh uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: {gap} the the {disfmarker} yeah , m well , you d you've got a point .
Project Manager: I think a two .
User Interface: Yeah , true . Yeah , I agree .
Industrial Designer: Can {disfmarker} yes , three , two .
Project Manager: Came a long way , but not {disfmarker} we didn't not uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Two or three ?
User Interface: Mm two .
Industrial Designer: But you can't make a remote control without them ,
Marketing: Two ? Antek .
User Interface: Because we got {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: because {disfmarker}
Marketing: Nay that that that's true , that's true . They're definitely needed .
Project Manager: No , w w it can also always be more simplistic , but two is {disfmarker}
Marketing: So {disfmarker} we put it on a two ?
Project Manager: yeah .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: The remote control has got a really trendy look .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes . A one .
Project Manager: Yeah , uh a t I think a two .
Marketing: Maarten .
User Interface: Well .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah yeah , y i it's hard to say from this picture .
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: We {disfmarker} we've tried to make it uh the the best trendy look uh ever .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Ever , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Guido .
Project Manager: But I do think it's more {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh , I will I will make it a three , because uh {disfmarker} yeah . I I th
Project Manager: But I do think that it's more trendy than beautiful .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Yeah , uh I agree . I agree .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} So so I think maybe it has to score higher uh on this than on the {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah . True , yeah .
Marketing: I was planning to give it a two , uh where I give the not ugly uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: A th a three .
Marketing: oh , yeah , that's true . You agree on the two ?
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: I i uh when you compare to the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Great . Remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons .
Project Manager: Uh uh what's the difference with {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Uh , I copied that one . Well , uh forget that .
Project Manager: Okay .
Marketing: Um {disfmarker} Go away . Remote control has got innovative technology implanted .
User Interface: No . We're not {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No .
Industrial Designer: No .
User Interface: well , maybe the the the {disfmarker} on the side .
Industrial Designer: No , not L_C_D_ , so .
Project Manager: Yeah , but we uh {disfmarker} {gap} you mean the rubber stuff ?
Marketing: Yeah , and the light .
Project Manager: Yeah , but we have t we have to talk about the lights uh .
User Interface: And the light maybe .
Industrial Designer: But that that's not innovative .
User Interface: But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And I don't u also it's also really not innovative ,
Industrial Designer: Lights lights are {disfmarker}
Marketing: Well , I g
Project Manager: it's more {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's not {disfmarker} seven ?
Project Manager: No , six . Or seven maybe , {vocalsound} yeah .
User Interface: Well , six . No , six .
Project Manager: Or six .
Industrial Designer: Six .
Marketing: Why uh why not a seven ?
User Interface: Six .
Project Manager: Yeah , mine is seven .
Industrial Designer: Because we've tried to make it a little bit innovative ,
User Interface: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: but it but it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Uh it's uh depends on the on the maybe {disfmarker}
Marketing: How ?
Industrial Designer: With the lights it {disfmarker} it's it's kind of future {disfmarker}
User Interface: {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No , I think I think actually it's a seven maybe , but there's nothing innovative about it .
Marketing: Yeah , you think the lights are innovative ? Well , it's n true . Uh , I agree ,
Industrial Designer: But still you can retrieve it when it's when it's gone , with the {disfmarker} with {disfmarker}
Marketing: m but {disfmarker}
User Interface: Innovative in generally or just f original for {disfmarker}
Marketing: I'll {disfmarker} Yeah , you you didn't draw the docking station . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes . {vocalsound} The docking station is a is a little bit innovative .
Project Manager: N no no ,
Marketing: Yeah , it it's {disfmarker} I think I think with its {disfmarker}
Project Manager: t {gap} .
User Interface: A docking station is innova
Project Manager: Yeah , I mean the dock station , but but uh , I think the the docking station , {vocalsound} it's gonna be a {gap} kind of a problem .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: It's a part of the remote .
Marketing: I think more m
User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And with the speaker on the {disfmarker} there's also a speaker .
Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
Marketing: Uh that {disfmarker} that's n
Project Manager: Well , let's leave it open for uh for us later to see what , because we have to reevaluate anyway . Well I i {gap} yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Project Manager: No ?
Marketing: No uh , well , the agenda says evaluate now , so I think we {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Okay , for now it's a six or a seven uh , sev
Marketing: It's it's a six .
Project Manager: six maybe ,
User Interface: Six .
Project Manager: because {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But the retrieval or the {disfmarker}
Marketing: That m f
Project Manager: Yeah , but I don't I don't know if it's very {vocalsound} inno yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , for the retrieval function . Yeah . I think that's very innovative for a remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah , v
Industrial Designer: Yes , {gap} how would you innovate a remote control more ?
Project Manager: Yeah , more through uh like function T_V_ functionalities and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: To put it on your head .
Project Manager: no no , you know what I mean .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: You have {disfmarker} {gap} must be innovative technology for remote controls , but more in how you control stuff , not in how you find your {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah sure , but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: yeah . Yeah , it's {disfmarker}
Marketing: But I d I definitely don't think it's a five ,
Project Manager: that's that's {disfmarker} think about it la later on
Marketing: but {disfmarker}
Project Manager: and uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Remote control is easy to use .
Project Manager: Yeah , as a a one or a two ma uh at least .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes .
User Interface: Yeah , a two .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: I think a two .
Project Manager: Yeah , it's good .
Marketing: Yeah ?
User Interface: More two .
Marketing: Come on . The remote control hasn't got uh {disfmarker} {gap} .
Project Manager: No , I would have seen {vocalsound} that one before . Oh , you skipped one uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: I've just filled {disfmarker} uh
Project Manager: Uh , here .
Marketing: Go away .
Industrial Designer: You like the buttons . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I found twelve questions so much , but it still is ten .
Project Manager: Remote control will be bought by {disfmarker}
Marketing: It will be bought by people under the age of forty .
Project Manager: Yeah . Definitely .
User Interface: Yes .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: In in {disfmarker} and comparing with uh people of th of the age above ?
Marketing: No no no . No , just if they if they buy it .
Project Manager: Uh , just in general . Yeah , a two .
Industrial Designer: We don't know . But {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , but I think I think two .
Marketing: Yeah , what do you think ?
User Interface: Yeah , I think two , yeah . I agree . Two .
Marketing: Antek ?
Industrial Designer: Yes , two , but only in c when you compare it with with elderly .
Project Manager: Uh , that is not the question . It's just w it will be bought by people under forty .
Marketing: No , that's no comparison .
Project Manager: Yeah , you can {disfmarker} yeah , you can be very picky about it .
Marketing: And I don't mean two people .
Industrial Designer: This is just guessing .
Project Manager: Ah yeah , just make it {disfmarker} we'll make it a two .
Industrial Designer: Make it a two .
Marketing: W w
Industrial Designer: When it succeeds , uh it can get a two , mu
Marketing: Right , the rem The remote control has recognisable corporate image , colour , logo or slogan .
Project Manager: Oh no . Yeah . Yeah , you have make an
User Interface: We don't have the slogan though .
Project Manager: {disfmarker} slogan is quite obvious {gap} .
Marketing: Oh , the slogan .
Project Manager: Oh the {disfmarker} oh sorry , no , not not the slogan .
Marketing: Can we see the slogan ?
Project Manager: Yeah , you can put that on the side if {vocalsound} if we would like to .
User Interface: The logo .
Industrial Designer: A logo .
User Interface: Underneath it or something .
Industrial Designer: Yes , uh encrypted uh with {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , and I will I th still think it's gonna be a two or a three .
Marketing: Are we gonna do that ?
User Interface: {vocalsound} A three . Three .
Project Manager: Maybe a three this time .
User Interface: Yeah , a three .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Three ? I agree . Because of the slogan {gap} {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Remote control's got a basic design intended uh for novice users .
Project Manager: Uh , it's a one or a two .
User Interface: Yeah , two .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: Yeah , make it a two .
User Interface: Two .
Marketing: Two ? Two . Alright . We gotta add up the scores now to see our total average . Four , five , seven , nine . Forget that . Fifteen , seventeen , twenty one , twenty four , twenty six . Twenty six . It's a two point six .
Project Manager: It's not that bad .
Marketing: Alright , we {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , and that's mostly the inno
Marketing: yeah .
Project Manager: when we uh score higher on innovative technology , we would score two ,
Marketing: Yeah . True .
Project Manager: which is uh quite a great score . Okay . Uh , this is {disfmarker} was uh the evaluation ?
Marketing: {vocalsound} This was my evaluation . So {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Because I I still think that the most important part of this meeting still has {disfmarker}
Marketing: We did a pretty nice job until now .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Marketing: Um , is this your {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Is there something after this uh meeting ? Or {disfmarker}
Marketing: Whatever . Well , I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire .
User Interface: No . Okay , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Still opened or uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , finance . Because um
User Interface: {vocalsound} Shoot .
Project Manager: I received uh a spreadsheet .
Marketing: A five . A five .
Project Manager: Yeah , but I uh actually don't need this presentation , I guess . Oh .
Marketing: Doesn't matter .
Project Manager: I'm gonna open the spreadsheet and we're gonna work this out together , because I didn't really fin uh I have a {gap} .
User Interface: {gap}
Project Manager: Didn't really finish it . Well , we uh {disfmarker} We'll see . We'll stumble upon some problems .
Marketing: We probably will .
Project Manager: {gap} I probably have already opened it here . {gap} try it again . First of all , the mm all the docking station and costs and such are not included in this list . But let's let's st start with beginning . We include one battery . I i uh I'll explain its {disfmarker} Uh , the the components are listed over here . Uh , price is given . We um {disfmarker} yeah ,
Marketing: The amount , yeah .
Project Manager: we we uh indicate the amount of components of the specif specific component , how much we need of them . And then uh , we'll uh calcula Don't watch the number yet . I don't know if it's filled in properly . Okay , we need one battery . One battery . I think one battery is enough .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: We don't need kinetic , solar cells , hand dynamo . A s okay , this this is a p first problem . Uh , I think we should know how many simple chips , regular chips {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Uh it's it's one one chip , but but you have to choose one from it .
Project Manager: Okay . But {gap} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: The simple chip is e enough I I think , but with the lights with the lights and the retrieval , it can be uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Where did we find this information ? Was it {disfmarker}
Marketing: I haven't got an idea on on which we need to use , really .
Project Manager: I think it was uh your job in the first uh meet Uh , f your first presentation to make this clear , but then you had some t time problems .
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: No , uh I {disfmarker} Yes , my my my uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: The the email I got said uh simple chip , but when we put in the speaker and the retriever uh device , it will uh cost a a bit more , like I think the advanced chip {disfmarker} maybe .
Marketing: Yeah . And how do you know ? I mean , you got that email . Did it point out what to use them for ?
Industrial Designer: Bec No , the {disfmarker} they didn't know about a retriever or a speaker uh in it .
Project Manager: Maybe you can uh look it up right now . Okay , but {disfmarker} okay . When we don't {disfmarker} when we leave the uh retriever and such aside , what {gap} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Then it's a simple chip .
Project Manager: then it would be a simple chip . And with the retriever , it would be an advanced chip .
Industrial Designer: Yes , I I I s I {disfmarker}
Marketing: Alright , well , point out the advanced chip for now , I guess .
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: That will be enough for future uh recommendations .
Project Manager: Yeah , but it will it will it will be {disfmarker} cause a lot of problems . {vocalsound} The sample sensor {disfmarker} sample speaker . What is it m is that the speaker we were t I don't know what it is .
Industrial Designer: I don't know it uh either .
Marketing: I don't know .
Project Manager: Okay , we went for the double-curved case
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: made out of plastic and rubber . And with a special colour . I guess that's what we were {disfmarker}
User Interface: Well , special colour . {gap} .
Project Manager: Yeah , I don't know about the special colour , but I think w uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Otherwise , you get uh a standard uh plastic colour .
User Interface: I don't {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't know if it's very special .
Project Manager: Yeah , I think we uh we have special colours .
User Interface: Mm okay .
Industrial Designer: Standard rubber .
Marketing: Alright , that's okay .
Project Manager: Okay , then the push-button , I was just counting them .
Industrial Designer: St {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Uh , I think you have to indicate the amount of push-buttons we want to use , isn't it ?
User Interface: Whoa , it's a little {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well that's bit of a problem ,
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Project Manager: because I re but I really don't understand that , because I can imagine a remote control with far more push-buttons , and it wouldn't be possible according to this uh sheet .
User Interface: {vocalsound} That's huge . No . We have {vocalsound} the simplest buttons .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: Yeah .
Industrial Designer: No , it's only uh when you use push-buttons , it will cost that much .
Marketing: I don't think so , because it says amount .
Industrial Designer: If you use a scroll-wheel {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Ah . Yeah , it wouldn't {disfmarker}
Marketing: The the the yellow row is the amount of {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Fill in the number of components you plan to use in the {gap} and the total cost {disfmarker} I don't know . I
Industrial Designer: Maybe it's the kind of push-buttons . You can have f four kind of push-buttons .
User Interface: Uh , one til nine .
Industrial Designer: Rubber .
User Interface: Is that one or is that nine buttons ?
Industrial Designer: You can have uh {disfmarker}
Project Manager: And I count them like this . One two three uh four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve and thirteen .
User Interface: Yeah .
Project Manager: Because {disfmarker} Oh , this is {disfmarker} oh , this is one , okay . Twelve , okay , then it would be eighteen , because uh , I uh rated them as uh um as uh uh uh separate buttons .
Marketing: To n
Industrial Designer: Different ,
Marketing: that's total of four buttons .
Project Manager: Yes .
Industrial Designer: yes .
Project Manager: And plus these two , f uh plus the mute button , and it's will be uh eighteen .
Marketing: I think that {disfmarker} Eighteen . One two three four five , si
Industrial Designer: Why is that so uh expensive .
Project Manager: Yeah , I don't understand . Y I do I don't get the point , because it's would be s relatively so expensive , just these m small buttons .
User Interface: Is it cents , the the the fifty cents a button ?
Marketing: Fifty cents for one single stupid button .
User Interface: No way .
Industrial Designer: So , whe when you {disfmarker} so then it {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Well , okay , well well let's make it just one .
Industrial Designer: It's eighty percent of the price of the of the amount of {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Here , now it's now it's already s
Marketing: Yeah , exactly . Yeah .
Project Manager: shall we just give our own interpretation to ,
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: because else we would really have a problem . It would be impossible to make it {disfmarker}
Marketing: {vocalsound} I can't {disfmarker}
User Interface: It's way {disfmarker}
Marketing: I I I couldn't understand it if it was fifty cents per uh uh per button . Really .
Industrial Designer: When you have the same amount of button , you have to put in wi in your carton . Board .
Project Manager: And and less buttons than this isn't possible .
Industrial Designer: And then throw it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , yeah , {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: This is the most simple {disfmarker}
User Interface: No , no no .
Project Manager: yeah , it is possible , but I've never seen one before .
Industrial Designer: But whe
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: I've seen one uh one remote control with only the pu yeah , only with uh page up , page down and volume ,
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: No , really .
Project Manager: Yeah , without the numbers . That's possible . Yeah , we could skip the numbers .
User Interface: Yeah , uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: but but {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , but I d I wouldn't want to own that . Really .
User Interface: That's still four .
Industrial Designer: Uh , it's it's still for little children . They can handle that remote control ,
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Then uh , teletext would also be im impossible .
Industrial Designer: but but it isn't fo Yes , it's for {disfmarker} it's li uh it's just for a little {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , that's no option , that's no option .
Project Manager: Okay , we'll we'll just {disfmarker} okay . But then still , {vocalsound} when we {disfmarker} there's no room for a docking station or something . Tha w Le let's see th we have uh {disfmarker} oh yeah , button supplements . We'll give the buttons special colour . We'll give them a special form . Uh , I think we should mark the special form thing , because it {disfmarker} this will be some special forms incorporated in these big buttons , I guess .
User Interface: {vocalsound} A special colour , why a special colour ?
Project Manager: Because the buttons will be uh d will be matching colour between the buttons and the rubber surroundings .
User Interface: But wha what s what special ?
Project Manager: I think that's the {disfmarker} what they mean by a special colour .
User Interface: Okay , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Otherwise , it {disfmarker}
User Interface: Uh , yeah .
Industrial Designer: Otherwise it would be the {disfmarker}
Marketing: I don't think the special form is really true .
Project Manager: I think all the special colour things have to be marked over here , because that's what we were planning to do , making it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Special form also , it says .
Project Manager: Yeah , special material r also ,
Marketing: Is it ?
Project Manager: because i has rubber . And the buttons have to be rubber .
Industrial Designer: What is the normal material ?
User Interface: Plastic .
Marketing: Yeah , I dunno .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Sh yeah .
User Interface: Plastic , I think .
Industrial Designer: Classic ?
User Interface: Plastic .
Industrial Designer: Oh , plastic .
Marketing: Plastic .
Project Manager: 'Kay , but the problem now is that {vocalsound} the {disfmarker} There's no such thing as a docking station in this list , but we can all imagine that it would be impossible to make a docking station for thirty cents .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But we can uh sell the remote control and uh sell the docking station {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Separately .
User Interface: Se no no no .
Industrial Designer: yes . And and {disfmarker} but we don't have to tell it , but what we can say of {disfmarker} can um almost make it impossible to buy a remote control without the docking station .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , yeah . Yeah , but I do like the idea , but we {disfmarker} yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: It uh {disfmarker} but it {disfmarker} then the docking station isn't relevant for this project anymore , but we can {disfmarker}
Marketing: No .
Industrial Designer: No , but you {disfmarker} otherwise you can't retrieve it .
Project Manager: but then you still have to use {disfmarker} we have to find out what chip we u need .
Marketing: Yeah , I really don't get it . I mean if it's a simple chip , then we suddenly got two Euros and thirty cents .
Project Manager: I think we can agree on this . I I think the special colour thing has to be uh marked . 'Cause I think we uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , yep .
Project Manager: Yeah , I think that's what what what they uh mean {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But for two Euros and thirty cents , we uh we don't get a docking station .
Marketing: I think so , too . Oh , I don't know .
Project Manager: But can we find out uh about uh this chips ? Because when we don't need a d a docking station , then probably we also have only {disfmarker} we also need a simple chip .
User Interface: And then we can get a docking station . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: And maybe then we can do something extra . Oh , n uh oh , still {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: For {gap} {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
Project Manager: oh , it's gonna get more expensive with {gap} . Two .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Then we have some money left . We can put then {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: For two Euros .
Project Manager: We can put a scroll-wheel on it or something .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh why ?
Project Manager: Yeah , well who knows . Or a little bit of tin titanium .
Marketing: I mean i i if you {disfmarker} if it would cost two Euros , that had a total a total thing , it would be nice too , I mean uh we're not gonna add uh a trip to Hawaii to it .
User Interface: But what what can we do {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , or we can ki do the kinetic cells . That's also maybe an idea .
User Interface: But uh what can we do with the simple chip and what's difference with a regular chip and a advanced chip ?
Project Manager: Yeah that's what then what he has to find out . Maybe you can uh find it in your email right now , then we know {disfmarker} then we exactly know what it will cost us .
User Interface: If if i
Project Manager: Maybe is that {disfmarker} that's nice to know .
User Interface: Regular chip and {disfmarker} because we don't have uh special functions to use uh in advanced chip , for example .
Project Manager: Yeah , bu bu but when we {disfmarker} yeah , but when we skip when we um {disfmarker} when we don't use the do we're not gonna make the docking station , then we still {disfmarker} yeah , we need something else maybe to make it kind of special ,
Marketing: I like the hand dynamo part .
Project Manager: because that was our our special feature .
Marketing: We can make a plain docking station for two Euros .
User Interface: Yeah . We'll go back uh tomorrow . {vocalsound}
Marketing: I mean {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , okay , you can also do that , but maybe {disfmarker}
Marketing: Wi wi without recharge {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It still is a special remote control cons uh you know , wi its form is special and material .
Marketing: Yeah , but but we can make a docking station for two Euros uh if you don't put the recharge function in it . I mean , it has a shape .
Project Manager: Yeah , but for two Euros , then we have still {disfmarker} maybe we have to use the advanced chip ,
Marketing: Of course it has a shape , but i i
Project Manager: then two Euros isn't even possible .
Marketing: Why should that not be possible ?
Project Manager: Yeah , then {disfmarker} because then we'd {disfmarker} thirty cents left .
Marketing: No , for for the uh for the docking station if you do if you choose the simple chip .
Project Manager: Yeah , but {disfmarker} yeah , I don't know , because maybe d uh yeah , we have to find out with the simple chip .
User Interface: That's the question . If we do i do we need an advanced chip , or is it okay f
Project Manager: Yeah , and w and and we uh need f
Marketing: Yes .
Industrial Designer: It isn't in my information , so I don't know it uh either .
Project Manager: and what is this ? Sample sensor sample speaker .
Industrial Designer: It isn't in my information , I uh I {disfmarker} I've got a schematic view of the remote control , but nothing about uh advanced chips or {disfmarker}
Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker} You can look at it for s presentation . S technical functions ?
User Interface: No .
Industrial Designer: Uh I've got here in uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: No no , they were uh mine , yeah .
Project Manager: Oh .
Industrial Designer: I will put a I will put a page on it . When my mouse works again .
Project Manager: Oh , oh oh . Hey . Oh .
Industrial Designer: My mouse is uh {disfmarker}
Marketing: Dead .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Reanimate it .
User Interface: Died .
Industrial Designer: Oh . Ah , I've got it . I will put uh my email on the the network .
Marketing: What the hell are these ?
Industrial Designer: It's on it .
Marketing: Oh , whatever .
User Interface: Yeah , it's open .
Marketing: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Mm . I don't think here {disfmarker} it's in here already .
User Interface: It's circuit board . It's only just basics for for {disfmarker}
Project Manager: It's nothing about s yeah .
User Interface: At the end circuit there is an infrared LED .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: This isn't helpful .
Project Manager: No . But i in the presentation of yours , there was also something about different components . Which one was it ?
User Interface: Components design .
Project Manager: Functional requirements ?
Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , that was my presentation .
User Interface: Components design maybe . N on top .
Industrial Designer: Yes , that was mine .
Project Manager: Ah . Ah yes , it was the second one .
Industrial Designer: But that was my second {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , it was your second {disfmarker}
Marketing: It's already open .
Project Manager: your first presentation .
Marketing: It's at the bottom .
Project Manager: Sorry ?
User Interface: Working design .
Marketing: It's uh at your task bar .
User Interface: Yeah , but it's the the other one .
Marketing: Oh .
Industrial Designer: Mm {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Uh , this is n this is not this n
User Interface: Was it working design or components design ?
Marketing: Sorry .
Project Manager: that's not the right one . I don't {disfmarker} oh .
Marketing: Okay , sorry .
Project Manager: No , this is the other one . Or maybe something is uh {disfmarker} maybe there's something abo in in these {disfmarker}
User Interface: Chip set .
Industrial Designer: But this is the same uh {disfmarker} This is o only the possibilities .
Project Manager: Here .
Industrial Designer: Yeah . We can use a simple , a regular , or advanced chip .
Marketing: Yeah , nice . I it doesn't say anything .
User Interface: The display requires an advanced chip .
Project Manager: You know that a push-button requires a simple chip , but a scroll-wheel , it it me requires {disfmarker} {gap} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Ah , okay .
Project Manager: Okay , so we only need a simple chip .
User Interface: Requires .
Industrial Designer: With the light .
User Interface: Little lights . Yeah , but that that's just the same as the the LED .
Project Manager: No no , that's just a simple chip . A scroll-wheel {disfmarker} {gap} {disfmarker}
Marketing: That's not needed .
Project Manager: it s uh only states that a scroll-wheel requires a regular chip , and that a display requires an advanced chip . So , we don't need any of them .
Marketing: A display uh is , of course , uh for showing letters . For showing text .
Industrial Designer: L_C_D_ .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: I don't think that uh just a l a little light {disfmarker}
User Interface: No . I think uh the uh normal uh simple chip will be okay .
Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
Project Manager: And what's the sample sensor slash sample speaker ?
Industrial Designer: Maybe you can say against the remote uh page uh f uh page up , page down .
User Interface: Yeah .
Marketing: Yeah , I guess so too .
User Interface: Yeah , true . Well , that's not too {disfmarker} what we want .
Marketing: Next channel . No . Well , we might want it , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} All in twelve Euros .
Project Manager: Back to the costs .
Industrial Designer: Twelve Euros and fifty cents .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: So we're gonna use the simple chip .
User Interface: So , simple chip is okay .
Marketing: Great . Delete .
Industrial Designer: And the lights . Where uh are the lights ?
Marketing: Yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , lights , yeah , there's no
Marketing: Well , there're three , I guess .
User Interface: category . {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Nah , there is some money left to be spent .
User Interface: Can we do it wi within two two Euro ?
Marketing: I think we can make a docking station . Yeah .
Project Manager: Okay , but what we have to think about now is that is is it still a special remote control ? But I mean it isn't {disfmarker} it hasn't got any innovative technology , we aren't gonna apply any uh innovated {disfmarker} innovative te technology anyway , I think . I don't I don't see any possibility to do so , because it would {disfmarker} wouldn't fit our defi design philosophy .
User Interface: Mm-hmm . But it's original .
Project Manager: But what w is there some extra {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , that's true .
Project Manager: maybe I think maybe the kinetic thing is something . Instead of the rechargeable {disfmarker} the rechargeable thing was something to um {disfmarker} know , so y so people wouldn't have to worry about their batteries anymore .
Marketing: M bu
Project Manager: Maybe we {disfmarker} if we put the kinetic thing in it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But but sometimes you put a {disfmarker}
Project Manager: Yeah , you leave the p yeah , I know , but still I {disfmarker} they will think about that . I mean if you u
Industrial Designer: Kinetics aren't uh nowadays only used in watches and that's because you're always walking .
Project Manager: The uh {disfmarker} it's made for s people {disfmarker} well , the they don't {disfmarker} if it was uh uh r useless technology , they wouldn't put it uh as a possibility .
Industrial Designer: Uh solar cells are useless .
Project Manager: And i it it {disfmarker} th th the the target
Marketing: Or the hand dynamo dynamo {disfmarker}
Project Manager: the target uh group are people who zap regularly and throw with their remote control as a matter of speaking {gap} .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: Because I think it {disfmarker} when when there w was a remote control where it was useful to have a kinetic uh uh power source , then it would be this one . Because it's one {disfmarker} it gets thrown around {gap} thrown around a lot and it gets used a lot {disfmarker} Hey that {disfmarker} maybe that's cool {disfmarker} that's a cool thing about it , you know . You don't use batteries .
Marketing: Yeah , but but if we ca
Project Manager: I've never seen it before in a remote control .
User Interface: But then we could make a docking station .
Marketing: I don't know if {disfmarker} Five minutes .
Project Manager: No , we we we can't make a docking station anyway .
Marketing: That's not true .
Project Manager: Yeah , we can als or uh also m we we can make one {disfmarker}
User Interface: Wow , w why no li
Marketing: We can make a docking station for two thirty .
Project Manager: we can still make {disfmarker}
User Interface: Look at now , we got two
Industrial Designer: Fo {vocalsound} for a docking station .
Marketing: Two thirty .
User Interface: two thirty left . Ca can't we make a docking station of that ?
Marketing: We can make a docking station . Sure .
Industrial Designer: With a cable , with uh buttons on it , with retrieval uh device in it .
Marketing: Sure .
User Interface: I don't know .
Marketing: The power device is is i i is very cheap .
Project Manager: {vocalsound}
Marketing: That's just a regular uh power cable and whatever .
Project Manager: Yeah , but be serious , then uh the docking station will be a fifth of the price of the remote control .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wi with a button to
User Interface: Well , we we uh {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: wi with a button to retrieve it , so it will beep .
Marketing: So .
Industrial Designer: Uh , so it's uh wireless technology .
Marketing: Yeah .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , but we uh we don't inc we haven't looked at the {disfmarker} these costs of the speaker and other stuff . I don't think it's realistic for you to do so .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Well then it's a useless project .
Industrial Designer: Look at the case ,
Project Manager: Oh , because we {gap} {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: the case the case of of uh of uh {disfmarker}
User Interface: Yeah , then we don't have any innovation things .
Project Manager: We {disfmarker} well look at all the special stuff we have . Colour a the colours are special , the form is special . It {disfmarker} th this is whole concept . Uh maybe it {disfmarker} with the kinetic thing , I think we could do uh do a compromise uh with the kim kinetic thing .
Marketing: {vocalsound} Can't we uh {disfmarker} Can't we say fifteen Euros ?
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh , no .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: No , sta yeah {gap} I mean {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: No , then we have to sell it for thirty Euros .
Marketing: No .
User Interface: No , we only make less profit of it .
Industrial Designer: It's the {disfmarker}
Marketing: You can sell for twenty seven and a half . Then you make as much profit as you would with twelve and a half production costs .
User Interface: {vocalsound} No .
Project Manager: Yeah , I don my suggestion is to just forget about the whole docking station thing and make it uh like a {disfmarker} Uh uh I I I I still fee I also feel this concept of making it kinetic , because of the {disfmarker} you know , it g it gives something dynamic to the remote control .
Marketing: I don't think {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Maybe we can uh can do it both . Maybe we can do it both uh in the in the in the remote . Battery and kinetic .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: No , that wouldn't n no .
Marketing: Thirteen twenty .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Yeah , and it is also not a good {disfmarker} it's not {disfmarker} you have to really do it only kinetic , you don't want it to think about batteries anymore .
Marketing: And I think only {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Yes , but when it's {disfmarker} then when it {disfmarker}
Marketing: Yeah , but only kinetic , then you gotta {disfmarker}
Project Manager: No no .
Industrial Designer: then you have to shake it uh and all when it's when it's empty .
Project Manager: Yeah , it's great .
Marketing: You you gotta throw uh throw it through the room like twenty times an hour , really .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: {vocalsound} No no no . No no , this is very sophisticated technology technology .
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: When you use it {disfmarker} your remote like once a day , or maybe even less i i it {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: You asked for three d No , that's n that's not true . Uh , a watch is uh kinetic because you walk all the time .
Marketing: No .
Project Manager: It {disfmarker} We can make it {disfmarker} yeah {disfmarker} no . Becau be but a remote control gets {disfmarker} why do they state that this technology can be used if it
Industrial Designer: Yes , solar cells are also stated .
Project Manager: Yeah , m but a w uh uh n uh a calculator also works on r on solar cells .
Industrial Designer: Why don't we use solar cells then ?
Project Manager: Because I think the d whole dynamic part , do you know , appeals to me qui uh thinking of our design philosophy , you know , with the rubber parts and uh sturdiness of the thing , and y when you move it around a lot , then people find the idea funny that when I move my remote control around and {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: That's true .
Marketing: Yeah , it's funny for a week . I guess something like that , where you have to move it around very frequently , is demotivating .
Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , but you don't have to . Trust me . The idea of this technology is that you don't think about it , it just happens .
Marketing: No , I I don't move my uh my remote control very much , seriously .
Project Manager: Okay , then we d Okay , well y we don't have to do it , but what {disfmarker} that would just have a lack of key features , you know .
Industrial Designer: Oui .
Project Manager: You m have to put something on your box . You have to make people buy it and uh {disfmarker} We can really can do the docking thing , uh it's not {disfmarker} yeah , uh we can do it , but it's would be a easy way out .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You can do it for fifty cents . {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Marketing: Well , we've got more than fifty Cents .
Project Manager: Okay , but we have to grou to agree upon something ,
Industrial Designer: The c {vocalsound} The case the case alone is is is uh
Project Manager: because uh we only have a minute left or so .
Industrial Designer: the case alone for uh remote control is at least one Euro . Then we have one Euro thirty for the whole docking station .
Project Manager: No no , it's not possible . Okay , w b we can s we can leave it on be well then then th it's {disfmarker} this is {disfmarker} then then our concept is ready .
User Interface: Cheap remote control .
Project Manager: Yeah , we make some extra profit of it .
Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} No , we won't , but that's um something else .
User Interface: {vocalsound} It w it won't tell , but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: But now {disfmarker}
Marketing: No , this not gonna sell . No .
Project Manager: Huh , any ideas ?
Marketing: Of course not .
User Interface: No , uh , n no
Industrial Designer: Great {gap} . It's great .
User Interface: Yeah , we just have to go all what we did today again . You have to do it over .
Industrial Designer: Our remote control .
Marketing: We come back tomorrow , okay ?
Project Manager: No no uh there's still there's still someth concept and something special left .
User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: Yes .
User Interface: {gap} the {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Seventy Euros .
Project Manager: I mean we're gonna {disfmarker} it's gonna excel in in on in the the range in the field of design and and uh looks and feel .
User Interface: No , but {disfmarker} no .
Project Manager: That's what it's {disfmarker} makes it special . Yeah , and I would li I would have liked a kinetic part as well , to give it some just to give it some extra special feature , and uh I know it will work , but uh it's it's an {disfmarker} They're they're not putting technologies on this {gap} , but if it if it was impossible to to make it happen .
Industrial Designer: Why not a hand dynamo then ?
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Project Manager: Okay , well we leave it like this . Then it's c then we're {disfmarker} yeah .
User Interface: Yeah , yeah .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
Marketing: We can't do anything else . Warning , finish meeting now .
Industrial Designer: We're done .
Project Manager: Okay , project e uh
Industrial Designer: Is this it ?
Project Manager: well , we were gonna what look {disfmarker} take a look at the last sheet .
Marketing: Yeah , {vocalsound} sure .
Industrial Designer: Okay .
Marketing: No , we can't .
Project Manager: Yeah , we have to {disfmarker} Yeah , it's {gap} {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} No .
Industrial Designer: Yes .
Marketing: Yes , yes . Celebration . I don't see why , but {disfmarker}
Industrial Designer: Where's the champagne ?
Marketing: I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire , to be honest .
User Interface: Yeah ?
Industrial Designer: I don't uh hear a bell .
Marketing: No , not yet .
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
User Interface: {vocalsound} We can do it here then .
Marketing: Alright , I'll see you guys in a minute .
Industrial Designer: Bye .
User Interface: Can we {disfmarker} can't we do it here ?
Marketing: I don't think so . I don't know . I don't I don't think so .
User Interface: {vocalsound}
Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh-huh . Just fill that one in .
User Interface: Yeah , we're doing now . But it's {gap} . Oh , okay .
Project Manager: Uh , I don't know .
User Interface: Nice .