Published on Jun 16, 2017 
 
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 Breitbart News Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow joins Bill for a conversation about right-wing media, Russian meddling, and free speech. 
 
 
 
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 While on the question, “How would you define fake news?” Malcolm Nance had a bone to pick with Breitbart editor Alex Marlow. 
 
 
 
 "You are Breitbart, right? And you don't do fake news? That's what you're asserting here? Yeah you know there was this article about a 35-year counterterrorism expert who claimed that they wanted Trump Tower attacked that was written in Breitbart. I got thirty-one death threats from that. And that came from your website. So you're going to secure that right now? You are going to apologize to me? I'm sorry to say. I'm sorry to say. I spent decades hunting terrorists. Yes, so that's fake as hell." 
 
 
 
 "You don't have to share your bonafides with me," Alex said. "I respect you. I respect your service." 
 
 
 
 “Your followers threatened my family, my children, my wife," Nance replied. 
 
 
 
 "Are you really suggesting that Breitbart doesn't get death threats?” Alex replied trying to deflect. "That our lives aren't put in danger?" 
 
 
 
 "No, No, No," Nance said. "You can apologize to me now. Alright? I'm not threatening you." 
 
 
 
 "Show me the story," Alex said. "And if the story is as you describe it I'll be happy to offer an apology." 
 
 
 
 "I will come to your office to see that retraction," Nance replied. 
 
 
 
 Originally Aired on June 16th, 2017 

 Alex began to develop political ideas as a teenager at the Harvard-Westlake preparatory school in Studio City, where taking a contrarian position generally meant steering right. Like many young conservatives, he gravitated to talk radio, particularly the afternoon program of Larry Elder, whose broadcast regularly featured another local teenager, Stephen Miller. Just one year ahead of Alex at Santa Monica High School 10 miles away, Miller was already becoming the bombastic force we saw on television this month, when, in his current role as a presidential adviser, he stood at the White House lectern doing battle with the CNN correspondent Jim Acosta over immigration policy. Even as a kid, Miller liked to fulminate against immigration and decry the ambient leftism of coastal California. Inspired and intrigued by Miller’s radio tirades, Alex applied for an internship with Elder. Although he and Miller wouldn’t meet in person for several years, their common experience of adolescent rebellion against the surrounding progressive monoculture seems to have intensified their political conviction in a way you might call radicalization. This is a current in American life we’ve not yet fully processed, but history will record a preponderance of today’s right-wing leaders who emerged in the toniest quarters of the nation’s bluest states. Apart from the obvious examples of Andrew Breitbart and Steve Bannon, annealed in Hollywood, you can think of Julia Hahn, who attended Alex’s high school and is now working with Bannon in the White House, and Ben Shapiro, the former Breitbart writer from Los Angeles who founded The Daily Wire — or for that matter, the populist billionaire New Yorker in chief. 
 
 Unlike pretty much all of the above, Alex never adopted a swaggering Rush Limbaugh bravado. He never even thought of himself as a Republican. Even today, his basic menu of ideas is fairly conventional fare. He thinks the federal government is clumsy and wasteful, that rich people get too many breaks, that mucking around in other countries is risky, that anybody entering the United States should pass through customs and that nobody should be defined by his or her gender, race, religion or sexual orientation. He is fond of pointing out a conflict between the traditional American ideal of a ‘‘melting pot,’’ in which individual differences blend into a common culture, and the more recent understanding of multiculturalism, which tends to celebrate differences. Other than that, it’s difficult to know where he’ll land on many issues. He often declines to land at all. On several occasions, when I mentioned something in the news, he responded: ‘‘I haven’t made up my mind.’’ And I lost track of how many times he told me: ‘‘I’m not an opinion guy.’’ A few months ago, when the Trump administration announced that it was scaling back plans on the border from a ‘‘big, beautiful wall’’ to something that looked more like a chain-link fence, he sparked the wrath of two staff members by announcing on an editorial conference call that it looked O.K. to him. 
 
 Alex hired Charlie Spiering as the site’s senior White House correspondent. A farm kid from rural Wyoming, Spiering arrived in Washington a decade ago for a plum internship with Robert Novak, and then made a solid reputation writing for the website of The Washington Examiner. I got to know Spiering pretty well this spring, and I reached out to some of his former colleagues from The Examiner who moved on to bigger jobs, and one night I had a pleasant chat with his sister, Jamie, who is a professor at Benedictine College in Kansas with a Ph.D. in philosophy. There are a lot of things you can say about Spiering — he doesn’t dig very deeply into his material or ask many hard questions at briefings — but he’s a perfectly straightforward, down-the-line conservative from a religious background, who brings to his work about the same level of bias as every other political reporter I know. When Breitbart first approached to offer him a job, Spiering said no. ‘‘You don’t want it to be the last job you ever get,’’ he said. ‘‘I knew their reputation.’’ After a long courtship, he accepted on the condition that he be allowed to write what he calls ‘‘straight news.’’ I’m not sure what that really means, and it takes about 10 seconds of looking at Spiering’s articles to notice the political outlook that shapes what he decides to cover, like border policy and nuclear energy, but I’ve yet to encounter any of his articles with more loaded language or explicit bias than your typical story in a typical newspaper. 
 
 Alex admitted that it can be challenging to hire reporters from a traditional background. ‘‘There are many people out there who don’t want the stigma of Breitbart,’’ he said. ‘‘I try to convince people it’s worth it, but whatever job you take next, they’re going to ask about your affiliation with Breitbart.’’ Even so, he said that at this point, he would most like to fill the staff with ‘‘a hundred reporters like Charlie,’’ who will bring a reliable conservative bias to their work but leave behind the shouty hysterics. He is reluctant to describe this as a shift in the Breitbart culture, but it clearly is, and it’s clearly intentional. After losing Bannon and Gorka and Hahn to the White House; accepting the resignation of Yiannopoulos, who was caught advocating statutory rape; and firing the editor Katie McHugh over a string of odious tweets, Alex has left himself with a roster of writers who are startlingly inoffensive. In fact, the masthead is more varied and international than most of the news organizations where I’ve worked, and Alex has a pretty good record of promoting women and minorities, at least by the industry’s abysmal standards — including the lead defense correspondent, the national security editor and the copy chief, all of whom are women of color.
– Even those with more than a passing familiarity to Breitbart News might be hard pressed to name its editor. That is intentional, explains a New York Times Magazine feature on 31-year-old Alex Marlow. He has been Breitbart's editor for four years now and keeps a low profile, even among staffers. Before the Times article, for which he gave Wil S. Hylton multiple interviews, Marlow's main foray into the spotlight was an appearance on Bill Maher's show. (Video of that interview is here.) In fact, the appearance crystallizes Marlow's unusual situation, writes Hylton. Afterward, he was pilloried on the left because, during the "overtime" part of the show, a counterterrorism expert said a "fake" story about him at Breitbart led to death threats and demanded an apology. But Marlow also got pilloried on the right for telling Maher that Russia had indeed meddled in the election. The latter admission showed that Marlow "does not get basic narratives," in the damning words of one Breitbart writer who quit and called Marlow "TRAITOR IN CHIEF." The story explores how Marlow is trying to bring more credibility to the site as he navigates critics from the left and right, and it quotes a Harvard law professor who has been conducting a linguistic study of stories. "Breitbart is not the alt-right," says Yochai Benkler. Headlines may be extreme, but the stories themselves often are surprisingly neutral. He sees Breitbart, then, as a "bridge" of sorts, "in which extremist sites linked to Breitbart for validation, and those same fanatics could then gather in Breitbart's comment section to hurl invectives," writes Hylton. Click for the full profile, in which Marlow explains that the site's admitted bias "now comes in story selection."