The Climb Carves Wisdom Deeper Than the Summit: On the Noisy Rewards in
  Learning to Reason
Recent studies on post-training large language models (LLMs) for reasoning
through reinforcement learning (RL) typically focus on tasks that can be
accurately verified and rewarded, such as solving math problems. In contrast,
our research investigates the impact of reward noise, a more practical
consideration for real-world scenarios involving the post-training of LLMs
using reward models. We found that LLMs demonstrate strong robustness to
substantial reward noise. For example, manually flipping 40% of the reward
function's outputs in math tasks still allows a Qwen-2.5-7B model to achieve
rapid convergence, improving its performance on math tasks from 5% to 72%,
compared to the 75% accuracy achieved by a model trained with noiseless
rewards. Surprisingly, by only rewarding the appearance of key reasoning
phrases (namely reasoning pattern reward, RPR), such as ``first, I need
to''-without verifying the correctness of answers, the model achieved peak
downstream performance (over 70% accuracy for Qwen-2.5-7B) comparable to models
trained with strict correctness verification and accurate rewards. Recognizing
the importance of the reasoning process over the final results, we combined RPR
with noisy reward models. RPR helped calibrate the noisy reward models,
mitigating potential false negatives and enhancing the LLM's performance on
open-ended tasks. These findings suggest the importance of improving models'
foundational abilities during the pre-training phase while providing insights
for advancing post-training techniques. Our code and scripts are available at
https://github.com/trestad/Noisy-Rewards-in-Learning-to-Reason.
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The Climb Carves Wisdom Deeper Than the Summit: On the Noisy Rewards in
  Learning to Reason
Recent studies on post-training large language models (LLMs) for reasoning
through reinforcement learning (RL) typically focus on tasks that can be
accurately verified and rewarded, such as solving math problems. In contrast,
our research investigates the impact of reward noise, a more practical
consideration for real-world scenarios involving the post-training of LLMs
using reward models. We found that LLMs demonstrate strong robustness to
substantial reward noise. For example, manually flipping 40% of the reward
function's outputs in math tasks still allows a Qwen-2.5-7B model to achieve
rapid convergence, improving its performance on math tasks from 5% to 72%,
compared to the 75% accuracy achieved by a model trained with noiseless
rewards. Surprisingly, by only rewarding the appearance of key reasoning
phrases (namely reasoning pattern reward, RPR), such as ``first, I need
to''-without verifying the correctness of answers, the model achieved peak
downstream performance (over 70% accuracy for Qwen-2.5-7B) comparable to models
trained with strict correctness verification and accurate rewards. Recognizing
the importance of the reasoning process over the final results, we combined RPR
with noisy reward models. RPR helped calibrate the noisy reward models,
mitigating potential false negatives and enhancing the LLM's performance on
open-ended tasks. These findings suggest the importance of improving models'
foundational abilities during the pre-training phase while providing insights
for advancing post-training techniques. Our code and scripts are available at
https://github.com/trestad/Noisy-Rewards-in-Learning-to-Reason.
LLMs exhibit robustness to reward noise during post-training and achieve high performance using reasoning pattern rewards (RPR) in conjunction with noisy reward models.
large language models (LLMs) post-training reinforcement learning (RL) reward noise reward models rapid convergence reasoning pattern reward (RPR) false negatives open-ended tasks