Two women holding shopping bags are standing outside having a conversation.
Two women are talking.
The conversation doesn't always include talking there could be sign language
exists e2 e1 e3 s1 x1 x2 x3 x4 x5.(for(e2,e3) & Theme(e3,x5) & Actor(e3,x1) & v_have(e3) & n_conversation(x5) & a_outside(s1) & Manner(e2,s1) & Actor(e2,x1) & v_stand(e2) & Theme(e1,x3) & Actor(e1,x2) & v_hold(e1) & n_bag(x3) & of(x3,x4) & n_shopping(x4) & (x1 = x2) & n_woman(x1) & card_eq_2(x1))
exists e1 x1.(Actor(e1,x1) & v_talk(e1) & n_woman(x1) & card_eq_2(x1))