Five African women talking.
Five African women are having a conversation
Talking and having a conversation is the same thing.
exists e1 s1 x1 x2.(a_topic(x1) & Actor(e1,x2) & v_talk(e1) & (x1 = x2) & n_woman(x1) & a_african(s1) & Theme(s1,x1) & card_eq_5(x1))
exists e1 s1 x1 x2.(Theme(e1,x2) & Actor(e1,x1) & v_have(e1) & n_conversation(x2) & n_woman(x1) & a_african(s1) & Theme(s1,x1) & card_eq_5(x1))