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The next Presidential election: a meaningful choice for the first time?
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I don't vote. For one thing – I don't want to acquire the US citizenship. But even if I had a US passport I would not vote for the following reasons: First, the choice between the two parties is like Pepsi-Cola vs Coca-Cola: both are toxic and impossible to tell apart. Second, every time the American people voted to support one policy, they got the exact opposite, from Bush's "read my lips no new taxes" to Obama's "change you can believe in". Third, what the USA needs is not a change of Administrations but "regime change": changing the puppets and keep the same puppeteers makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Fourth, to win you need huge amounts of money: instead of one man one vote it is one dollar one vote. Hence the top 1% matter more than the bottom 99%. The American 'democracy' is, indeed, the best 'democracy money can buy'. Fifth, voting is morally wrong because it takes away from you the option of saying "not in my name". For all these reasons, I have been paying no attention at all to the circus of the US Presidential election. Well, that's not quite true, I would say "almost no attention at all". What could always happen is the "Frankenstein/Golem phenomenon": the creators lose control of the creature which ends up revolting against them. So no matter how slim the chance of that happening, sometimes a change of puppets can result in a dramatic change of puppeteers.
The other reason why I was keeping an eye on the Presidential race was the possibility of a real nightmare happening: Hillary in the White House, this time as POTUS. Her I truly fear. I strongly believe that she is one of the most toxic and outright evil people ever produced by the American system and I have come to the conclusion that she is dumb enough to think that she can bully Russia into submission. Every single issue she tried to deal with ended up in abject failure and she has something to prove. That makes her especially dangerous. So while I had no interest in US politics other than "anybody but Hillary".
Which puppet will win this time?
And then Trump happened.
My first hunch was that Trump was "created" to scare people into voting for Hillary. Only a clown looking like an out of control loose-cannon could make the Republicrats lose the next Presidential election to the Demoblicans, right? Maybe.
But now I am starting to get the feeling that the Neocons are really freaking out, and that Trump, possibly to his own surprise, is starting to believe that he might make it. Well, what if?
Ron Unz, in a recent column, gave a very accurate description of what appears to be happening: (source)
Over the last few months I've been much too preoccupied with my Harvard University Overseer project to pay much attention to the unfolding saga of the presidential race; I've closely read my morning newspapers as I always do, but not watched a single one of the endless debates. Still, even out of the corner of my mind's-eye, the rise of Donald Trump certainly seems the political story of the decade or even the half-century, with the loud-mouthed Reality TV star now having a good chance of seizing the Republican Party nomination against the ferocious opposition of nearly every significant Republican faction and pundit.
But although I've been just as surprised at this remarkable development as anyone else, in hindsight perhaps my astonishment was more than it should have been. Based on absolutely everything I've read in my daily NYT+WSJ, Trump certainly seems an ignorant buffoon and a loose cannon, but being a loose cannon, he rolls around randomly, not infrequently in the correct direction, which is more than I can say for nearly all of his Republican rivals.
Consider the Iraq War and its aftermath, surely one of the central geopolitical developments of the last few decades. In the mid-2000s, my old friend Bill Odom, the three-star general who ran the NSA for Ronald Reagan, accurately characterized the war as "the greatest strategic disaster in U.S. history." Yet today that calamitous legacy and its five trillion dollar total cost is warmly embraced by many of the top Republican leaders and publicly criticized by almost none of them.
However, just a couple of weeks ago, Trump blasted the war and the Bush Administration lies behind it on nationwide television during a Republican debate, inducing total shock within the Republican commentariat, shock that turned into apoplexy when he immediately afterward won a landslide victory in ultra-rightwing and pro-military South Carolina. Sometimes a single bold and honest statement delivered on national television can cut through endless layers of media lies and propaganda, and I only regret that Gen. Odom was no longer around to witness it.
Earlier this year, an ardent Trump supporter declared that his favored candidate was 95% a clown but 5% a patriot, and therefore stood head-and-shoulders above his Republican rivals, and this sounds about right to me.
I agree with Unz. Trump does, indeed, appear to be "rolling around randomly, not infrequently in the correct direction" and he sure does present himself as a "95% a clown but 5% a patriot, and therefore stood head-and-shoulders above his Republican rivals". In fact, I am pretty sure that those who support Trump will gladly provide a long list of quotes which will make a good case that Trump is right much more than on 5% of cases. Most amazingly, Trump seems to suggest a radical change of US policies towards Russia and Israel: Trump wants peace with Russia and he wants to USA to be an "honest broker" in Israel. The latter is enough for (even the putatively Left-leaning Ha'aretz) to list not one, but "Six Reasons Trump Would Be Disaster for U.S. Jews, Israel and the Middle East".
Trump – candidate for peace?
Could it be that the "Trump project" is getting out of control and that a supposed "puppet" refuses to stick to its role?
Maybe. I honestly don't know.
What I do know is that on the Demoblican side Hillary's nomination appears to be a done deal. And, besides, it's not like Sanders is a viable option. While the Occupy Wall Street supporters might like him (especially if he teams up with Tulsi Gabbard), the "Socialist" stigma makes the man unelectable in a viscerally anti-Socialist USA (especially since most Americans have no idea whatsoever of what Socialism is all about). By the way, Sanders is a loyal Zionist anyway, so even if he was elected you would imagine that the Neocons could sleep in peace knowing that "their man" is in the White House. But clearly, Sanders is not bloodthirsty enough for them, they want Hillary and only Hillary. Only she can really guarantee the bloodbath the Neocons want.
Does that then make Trump the proverbial "lesser evil"?
Compared to Hillary, almost anybody would, so I suppose Trump qualifies. And, who knows, maybe all the nonsense Trump regularly spews is only electoral politics and not a foretaste of what a Trump Presidency would look like.
At this point in time all I can say is that I have come to no conclusion beyond two very basic ideas:
Axiom: Hillary is by far the worst option
A Trump Presidency might be interesting to observe. Maybe.
This is about as much enthusiasm as this entire topic can elicit in me.
2016 Presidential race
Flonerd on March 10, 2016 · at 2:57 am EST/EDT
"But clearly, Sanders is not bloodthirsty enough for them"
That's what they said about Obama.
I think Sanders is the chosen one — he will end up the Democrat candidate and then will "win" the "election". Complicated kabuki, certainly, but that's my prediction. If I'm wrong? Who cares…THEY'RE ALL BLOODY THIRSTY sell-outs.
Liz on March 10, 2016 · at 12:51 pm EST/EDT
The democrats certainly have no opinion this time around, nor does it seem they ever have. The republicans are a bit better, this time around they have Trump and last time they hade Ron Paul. The democrats seems to be an utter lost cause, all the most vile and awful "values" that has infested the west is in full bloom among the democrats.. I recently heard Hillary supported late-term abortion.. And there are even talk about the democrats for "post-birth abortion" I am not even joking..The democrats are like that, rife with ideological diease, if there is to be any hope it will come from the republicans which atleast pretends to be traditionalist and to care about all americans no matter race/gender and so forth, why Sanders even came out awhile ago and declare that white people cant be poor.. If a republican made a similar statement about any other race, there would be an international outcry from all PC media in the west.. But this stuff is just norm among the democrats.
Jim on March 11, 2016 · at 12:40 am EST/EDT
Even if my dog wins there will be only one change we all be worse off!
People are dying on the streets today, no medical help of any kind,
Liz on March 11, 2016 · at 8:43 am EST/EDT
Not if Trump is president. :) Actually he addressed that very issue, and to my amazement, he was attacked for it.. Can you imagine, being attacked for saying he wont let americans die in the street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJ1RraYiTc
Tom in AZ on March 11, 2016 · at 6:01 am EST/EDT
Care to cite a source for your fiction about post-birth abortion. Or is it a case of 'some say' or 'everyone knows'
Oh, no, liberals are floating the idea right now, give it 5 years, it will be the official stance of the democrat party and all PC parties in the west, and by then the overton window will have moved and the republicans will support late term abortions. That is how it goes, every year the PC-lunatics push what is normal further and further away from reality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/after-birth-abortion-can-they-be-serious/2012/03/03/gIQADgiOsR_blog.html
John Decker on March 12, 2016 · at 7:46 pm EST/EDT
http://www.snopes.com/after-birth-abortion/
Charles Fasola on March 11, 2016 · at 9:57 pm EST/EDT
Are u serious. Trunp is an only in amerika candidate. Clinton is insane. Sanders a fraud. The remainder of the R's unfit to live.
The voting retarded amerikan public deserve what they get. If abortion is your main concern, if you are completely anti abortion you have rocks rather than brains in your skull. Show any proof other than a Murdock organization to back up your statement concerning post birth abortions. I cannot believe one comment could contain the number of absolutely ridiculous statements as your own.
know the truth on March 12, 2016 · at 8:33 am EST/EDT
Charles Fasola said :
" you have rocks rather than brains in your skull".
Yes she has but she thinks she is intelligent.
Liz on March 12, 2016 · at 1:05 pm EST/EDT
I suggest you troll less and read more, in my comment I very clearly state that Trump is the only choice.
My statement about trump means that a candidate such as him could only be considered in amerika. Home of the least intelligent, most manipulated, most misinformed public in the entire world.
Scott on March 10, 2016 · at 3:03 am EST/EDT
Mark Twain — 'If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.'
Anonymous on March 10, 2016 · at 5:38 am EST/EDT
I can't resist temptation to remind you of H. L. Mencken ( from Baltimore ) views on elections, democracy, politicians, and public:
H.L. Mencken on Elections, Politics and Government
1. Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.
2. A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.
3. A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.
4. Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.
5. Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.
6. Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
7. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
8. Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
9. If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.
And since the time he has written above (from 1920-1940's) little has changed.
My conclusion is that elections are over, as it doesn't matter who is chosen. In Saker's words, you will be forced to enjoy cola, the label of which will be decided in Nov.
During 2008 elections I alienated quite a number of my hopeful friends by quoting Chairman Deng Xiaoping who said: It does not matter whether a cat is white or black as long as it catches mice.
Today's mice catchers are an old circumcised white tomcat, equally old badly bruised white female cat, and old tomcat with a strange yellow fur.
Regards, Spiral
SanctuaryOne on March 10, 2016 · at 7:39 am EST/EDT
It doesn't matter who you vote for -a politician will always get in.
A.T. on March 10, 2016 · at 1:31 pm EST/EDT
Ow! That is just so cuttingly sharp. :-)
Is it original?
DM on March 10, 2016 · at 10:03 pm EST/EDT
No. An oldie but a goodie.
Veritas on March 12, 2016 · at 1:38 pm EST/EDT
Well it looks like Hitllery could be in deep trouble over her emails:
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/fbi-has-devastating-witness-who-could-put-hillary-behind-bars/ri13317
The FBI has a devastating witness who could stop her aspirations in the Presedential race – please, please hope this is true. Let this end her career and that of her family once and for all. As the Saker has pointed out – she is the worst option possible.
mushroom on March 14, 2016 · at 1:48 pm EST/EDT
Wonderful! Thanx!
zweistein on March 10, 2016 · at 10:23 am EST/EDT
" If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."
Mark Twain has it completely wrong. Fact is, they push us to vote, because it makes a huge difference.
With a beginner's level sleight of hand the Controllers trap us in
– cognitive dissonance
– responsibility for the ecocide and genocide they commit
– render us totally powerless, and in
– eternal confusion
John G on March 11, 2016 · at 7:02 am EST/EDT
Voting just encourages the bastards.
Cindy near Fruita on March 10, 2016 · at 3:12 am EST/EDT
Very close to my observations. Now,here is why I vote. Local elections up to the state level and sometimes federal. I have influence near me, and less up-the-chain. I often leave parts of the ballot blank as I do not support any candidates presented. I understand that the process is controlled, more so the farther away. My anwser is to adjust my life style to the situation I see and comprehend. This blog continues to expand my horizons and I can make better choices based on information presented. Your interview with Cathrine Austin Fitts rang a bell as I read her Narco Dollars for Dummies many years ago and was somewhat dumbfounded by her connections to what I had seen. Her story read true. My recommended reading list is War is a Rackett, Smedly Butler; Narco Dollars for Dummies, and Web of Debt, Ellen Brown.
Eimar on March 10, 2016 · at 10:54 am EST/EDT
@Cindy
Very good information sources you've chosen – particularly Ellen Brown .
May I also recommend Voltairenet (particularly Thierry Meyssan) to get a much more accurate picture of the true nature of US foreign policy?
Also strongly recommend FreeLibyaPress, Global Research, Strategic Culture, Fort Russ, Syrian Perspective, Al-Manar and, using machine-translate, primary sources like Novorussia News, Donetsk News Daily, Anna News, NewsFront – all reporting on events in the Donbass/Ukraine.
I also go to Kurdish and Syrian sources for primary data, bearing in mind that such sources may be variable in accuracy and also have agendas : I have learned for example to distrust the Kurdish site Rudaw . Otoh Ekurd does not shy away from unsavory truths about the 'Kurdistan' project and its various players, while adopting an editorial position favouring it (though lately, somewhat subdued.)
I believe if more Americans adopted a wider range of news sources , including opinion, from the international arena , they would not be so easily mislead by their corporate media.
Same for Europeans of course, as this Belgian journalist on French TV warns (English subtitles):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8F5bYbU9-g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
elsi on March 10, 2016 · at 12:35 pm EST/EDT
Eimar, one question that comes to me since a while, are you the same commenter as eimar, and Eimar Clark?
Eimar on March 10, 2016 · at 1:35 pm EST/EDT
Yep .
Depends on which browser I use.
I don't like using the second name, but I forget sometimes to erase it.
elsi on March 10, 2016 · at 2:26 pm EST/EDT
Ok, eimar, :D
Ellen Brown! A good source. Are u serious? A good source for what? A total lack of knowledge concerning monetary reform. A leading source of misinformation anout monetary sovereignty and the monetary system. You're always good for a laugh.
Stein on March 13, 2016 · at 7:14 pm EST/EDT
Ok Fasola, what does she miss? Her Web of Debt is instructive for beginners and she focuses on public banking as a pragmatic step.
"You're always good for a laugh."
I aim to please..::O
Name a single politician in the entire history of the world who has done in office as they promised they would before they were elected. The "anti" cries of disgust are as energizing to them as the "pro" fawning and praise. What if no one paid any attention at all to any of them… would they just go away?
Spiral on March 10, 2016 · at 4:36 am EST/EDT
Putin, but then he is a statesman, not politician ( here definition is moot )
Bismarck comes to mind. Deng Xiao Peng. De Gaulle, Putin, Roosevelt, Ceaser Agustus. There have been many. I'm not saying Trump is of that class but civilizations are often reborn on the coat tails of leaders who know how to break the power of the establishment and know how to make deals that work for everybody.
Who knows? Hillary ain't one.
Paul Greenwood on March 10, 2016 · at 9:18 am EST/EDT
Bismarck was Reichskanzler. He was not elected he was appointed by the Kaiser.
The simple fact is the US System is corrupt just as it was in the 19th Century. US Society is built on Hollywood and Madison Avenue and Edward Bernays.
" US Society is built on Hollywood and Madison Avenue and Edward Bernays"
And behind these agencies are the CIA and the Money Printers owned by the Trillionaire families.
augusto on March 10, 2016 · at 1:31 pm EST/EDT
yES. mr anonymous.
Otherwise they wouldn´t be elected at all and politics would be the art of something else than art of the possible.
We mortals just envy your simplicity of reasoning. Suggest you just take the next spacecraft to Mars. And I mean it.
Anonymous on March 10, 2016 · at 2:46 pm EST/EDT
Spoken like someone who "works" in politics.
Art of the possible? Isn't that just a manipulative way of saying boldfaced lies?
Suggest you get a real job. And I mean it.
Jacques Cuse on March 10, 2016 · at 11:52 pm EST/EDT
"Name a single politician in the entire history of the world who has done in office as they promised they would before they were elected."
One there is and that would be the honourable Willem Drees Sr. of the Netherlands:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Drees
No self enrichment, very social policies that benefitted all of the population. An old and wise man. Nowadays Dutch politicians are complete evil shite compared to this gentleman.
Russian heart on March 11, 2016 · at 10:08 pm EST/EDT
Putin. Amazingly consistent. No U-turns, does what he says he will do. Listen to his 2007 Munich speech, and earlier speeches, they could have been delivered today. One vision.
This is why people vote for him. He can be trusted.
Grieved on March 10, 2016 · at 3:35 am EST/EDT
Saker, thanks for articulating the view from the disenfranchised. I identified with every statement you made about how you feel, and also with what you suspect you may be seeing.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day, whereas the people supported by the machine are wrong every single time, no matter how they have to wriggle to create evil out of harmlessness. So maybe there's something happening here, but it's going to have to prove itself pretty tangibly to take it seriously.
I can't get any more interested in this election folderol than you can, and for all the same reasons. It makes more sense to focus on the revolutionary changes at the grass roots – which is exactly where you've proven that one can make a contribution and a difference. Congratulations for that, by the way – what you've done weighs a whole lot heavier in the scales than any vote you might have cast.
lsammart on March 10, 2016 · at 3:51 am EST/EDT
Trump is not a neocon creation (if elected they may even try to kill him), but Sanders is. Naturally their first choice is Hillary, but they could settle for Sanders: they are aware that the sheep hate them, they feel the blowing wind of tentative changes in the air, and " a socialist democratic" is what people may be looking for. Another Messiah!
On the other hand, Trump is not really my cup of tea, behind the clown I have not found convincing ideas: it is also true that sometimes in voting we choose the lesser evil…..and surely Hillary would be the worst choice.
C I eh? on March 10, 2016 · at 9:40 pm EST/EDT
Trump/Sanders 2016!
Won't make a lick of difference. Each actor-candidate pulls in a different segment of the audience, convincing participants this game of Survivor isn't rigged.
It's about ratings people. The system is illegitimate but partipation signifies consent — so consent away if it makes you feel better.
The real game is a negotiation between nazis and bolsheviks and no, I'm not being hyperbolic.
Jonathan on March 10, 2016 · at 11:51 pm EST/EDT
The neocon movement didn't really exist before the Six Day War and had limited influence before the nineties. Sanders is part of the Old Left. Rather close in politics to the New Deal Democrats. The New Deal was itself renounced in the eighties by the Democratic Leadership Council and the New Democrats who adopted neoliberalism as their mantra. So I can't see how Sanders can be said to be a neocon creation.
Katherine on March 11, 2016 · at 8:02 pm EST/EDT
Isammart
and surely Hillary would be the worst choice.
Yes. Really. for chapter and verse on why, see Bill Blum's latest Anti-Empire Report:
http://williamblum.org/aer/read/144
He destroys every arguemnt for voting for her. Her weakest suit: "experience." All of the so-called "experience" is a disaster. And while she was Mrs. President to her hubby, did she agree with him on undoing Glass-Steagall? on putting Larry Summers in the driving seat (he was the champion of canceling Glass-Steagall)? In NAFTA? In 'welfare "reform"?
But there is so much more than this! Read the article. LIke Blum, I 'll vote for Trump before I vote for Hillary. And I know a lot of others who feel the same way. Putative Democrats.
I have a dream, in this year of political craziness. Hillary manages to get herself anointed as the Dem candidate. Bernie is sidelined. But before he can get to the podium to declare his undying support for the Dem. party that has just shafted him, Trump gets to him and sez: Why don't you be my running mate?? Dream team (OK, a dream like the kind that Salvador must have had . . .)
Anyhow, Hillary is AWFUL (please excuse Caps!. And Frightening allowed one through.Mod on duty. They both are, both she and Bill. With their beastly "third way. " Blum is right. She is really in the wrong party. She is Neocon. Now these two horrors are dragging their daughter into their circus. They are devouring their own child. Poor Chelsea. Maybe she should have gone to live on a kibbutz, or trained to become a VNA nurse—just to get away and have her own life.
Check out the Bill Blum piece. Here is the URL again: http://williamblum.org/aer/read/144
BTW, speaking of Bills (the bad and the good), another good Bill is Bill Black–William Black, who spearheaded the investigation of the SAvings and Loan scandals of the was it the nineties and was all for taking the same hammer and tongs to the criminals of 2008. Turns out that he advised the ladies in Iceland who decided to go after the guys who brought down their economy. Both William Black and Michael Hudson are affiliated with the University of Missouri. Which I find tres interessant.
Regarding Hillary as a "credible" candidate and choice of feminists, there is a very good letter in the current "Nation," from Carolyn Eisenberg, providing pushback against the knee-jerk feminist choice of Hillary:
http://www.thenation.com/article/letters-from-the-march-14-2016-issue/
 In her recent article, Katha Pollitt refers with embarrassment to a statement that she signed in 2008, "Feminists for Peace and Obama." The clear implication is that she and presumably others had applied a double standard to the presidential candidacy of Hillary Clinton. Now, in 2016, she intends to undo that mistake by encouraging others to "put a collective thumb on the scale" on behalf of this particular woman, who is again seeking the highest office.
As one of the originators of "Feminists for Peace and Obama," I can affirm that no double standard was involved. It was drafted by feminist peace activists in New York, who from 2001 to 2004 had found Senator Clinton's office to be extraordinarily unresponsive to a list of concerns: the arbitrary incarceration of Muslim immigrants in the wake of 9/11, the waiving of the Geneva conventions in the establishment of Guantánamo, the authorization of military force in Iraq, the use of depleted uranium once the war began, the unconditional funding of an ongoing occupation. As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, she åmight have played a constructive role, which she failed to do.
To be clear: On matters of substance, Senator Clinton's positions were distinctly "hawkish" as compared with several others in the New York congressional delegation; on matters of process, her office was unusually resistant to communication with peace advocates.
Of course, Clinton wasn't the only "liberal" senator to vote to authorize the use of military force in Iraq. But there was one crucial difference between Senator Clinton and all 99 of her colleagues: As the wife of the former president of the United States, she was uniquely situated to know that the so-called "intelligence" on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction was largely (if not entirely) hyped. Under these circumstances, her choice to follow the lead of President George W. Bush was a major setback for the cause of peace.
This history is directly relevant to the present. As an abstraction, the election of a woman to the presidency of the United States would be a positive gain. But when leading feminists advocate the election of Hillary Clinton and ignore entirely her record not only as a US senator but as secretary of state, this does the opposite. I am concerned that it sends the wrong message: that Clinton's gender matters more than her performance in office.
Pollitt seems to suggest that a "liberal" Hillary Clinton is no better or worse than others whom feminists might support. But it is instructive to compare her behavior as secretary of state with that of her successor, John Kerry. Since assuming this position, he has worked tirelessly to find agreement with international adversaries on a range of critical issues, in which the possibility of failure looms large. Secretary Clinton did nothing of the kind. Moreover, what is presently known about the internal deliberations of the first Obama administration makes clear that Clinton remained a policy "hawk" who, together with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, pushed a reluctant president in a militaristic direction—on the troop surge in Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, the response to the Syrian civil war, and a range of other items.
Based on her past performance, there is every reason to fear that Hillary Clinton will become a president with a more than usual penchant for military action. Before we put a "collective thumb on the scale" on her behalf, such worries should give us pause.
Carolyn Eisenberg
See also this:
"Before her Murder Berta Caceres singled out Hillary Clinton for criticism."
http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/
Canuck on March 10, 2016 · at 3:59 am EST/EDT
Trump is not a career politician; if Trump is indeed not bought by or controlled by someone(s), and is capable of learning, he does signal a dramatic refreshing phenomenon in American presidential politics. The degree to which the entire establishment, of all stripes, has foamed at the mouth over his success so far has made many people think that hey maybe he is actually his own man. Forthrightness in American politics has seemed just about extinct, but absence makes the heart grow warm, and there is still something inherently attractive about sincerity to most people. So Trump, even when he is foolishly forthright, or bombastic here, politically incorrect there, still seems strangely authentic. His hair is humour-esque, but it's him, his personal trademark. His off the wall utterances may appall the genteel and the humourless and those most mannerly among, but Trump also often seems spirited, self-confident, feisty. He sometimes thinks on his feet a bit. He's not just scripted.
Politics has been said to be the art of the possible, and in a time where it seemed in the United States that the forces of con artistry, playing ventriloquist with political marionettes and dummies for show, seemed irrevocably triumphant, impossible to displace, Trump may just trump them. And if in conjunction with his fixities, he's also capable of learning, of thinking independently, of listening to various perspectives and making tough decisions and some sensible changes, wouldn't that be a corker! And even if he disappoints, it's hard not to picture him as an improvement on the psychos that have been running, and want to keep running, the show.
know the truth on March 10, 2016 · at 11:11 am EST/EDT
"Trump is not a career politician; if Trump is indeed not bought by or controlled by someone(s), and is capable of learning, he does signal a dramatic refreshing phenomenon in American presidential politics. The degree to which the entire establishment, of all stripes, has foamed at the mouth over his success so far has made many people think that hey maybe he is actually his own man".
I really despair when I read statements like the above. The man is a billionaire for crying out loud, he is an oligarch himself, one of the 1%, do people really truly believe once he is in office he is going to start cutting his own throat with genuine reforms ? People are truly monumentally stupid which is exactly how they have managed to get away with everything for so long.
Anonymous on March 10, 2016 · at 12:14 pm EST/EDT
You guys seem to forget that Donald J. Trump is exactly what it stands for: a personified brand. You look at his products, you see Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump Casinos, Trump Wine, Trump Trump. That´s all it is about.
People seem to forget that running for president is actually investing in his greatest asset: his own branding name.
Canuck on March 10, 2016 · at 1:01 pm EST/EDT
Well, ' know the truth', as someone who has chosen a godlike pseudonym, you are curiously in need of getting a grip. If my mole hill of a comment can leave you in despair, how will you ever cope with a mountainous comment?
The idea that Trump is simply a classical oligarch is dubious, since packs of oligarchs are calling for his head. Note that many reformers in history had a wealthy background. From Solon to JFK. Which is not to say that Trump ir either.
JFK for example, took on the military, CIA. Wall Street, was an anti-colonialist, wanted to get out of Vietnam, pushed for the ban on atmospheric nuclear testing. And he had a rich daddy.
Note that I didn't assume in my original missive that Trump was the real deal, nor that his utterances don't include some silliness. I don't claim like some people to know the truth. But if he actually turns out to be his own man, and is capable of learning, and actually takes power over the extreme angst of the establishment, well, that would be highly unusual and time will tell what follows…. If my words are proof of my 'monumental stupidity', hey, at least it's monumental….
RayB on March 11, 2016 · at 11:34 am EST/EDT
Canuck: That was an astute answer to "know the truth" in my opinion.
It's one thing to be uncritically gullible, but conversely self-righteous cynicism is the other side of the same slug which essentially amounts to the exact same thing. Being as how neither engages in the dialectics of critically discerning the truth.
Hence one can't claim to be knowledgeable or "know the truth" if closed minded and unwilling to critically examine all the facts pertaining to a person or a matter.
To be sure Donald Trump is complex character to evaluate and try and understand and as such remains a mystery and enigma to most people.
It's an honest critical evaluation that I can see Canuck and others here struggling with and not something to be dismissed out of hand based on selecting only facts fitting in with ones own preconceptions or personal prejudices.
The fact that Trump has touched a nerve (both positively and negatively) with so many of the electorate and that he is so hated by the establishment speaks volumes in and demands a analysis of exactly what he is saying and the issue's of substance that are provoking such an uproar and strong response.
That's what I see some of us here on this site doing while others are simply reacting to him emotionally without dealing with the actual critical issues he raising.
Whether or not he's genuine and sincere or not or could and would ever fulfill any of his election promises as POTUS is another matter, but the very fact that he's been the only one among all the rest of the warmongering Wall Street candidates, who's been bold enough to bring into the debate and the light of public discourse, the fundamental issues of making peace with Putin and Russia, and between Israelis and the Palestinians in the ME. Actually crushing the US's proxy ISIS. Rebuilding Americas economy and it's crumbling urban infrastructure and is anti "free-trade" (such as NAFTA and TPP-4), in and of itself merits our support and being open to what he has to say.
Because love him or hate him when sociopath "shoe in" Clinton takes the thrown of the American empire as commander in chief of the most powerfull military on earth, it's practically guaranteed that all hell will break loose in the worlds economy. And the ME and NA will farther explode into utter chaos while she will surely confront Putin and Russia (if not also China) causing a third world war with a nuclear standoff, if not an actual showdown taking place.
On the other hand, should by some miracle Trump ever win and get in, it's inevitable that just as Kennedy was he'd be assassinated, or disappeared somewhere in an "accident" while flying around in his 100 million dollar jet plane.
That's my two loonies worth here from Canada (In what the US empire considers it's northern hemispheres NAFTA and NATO enslaved economic colony)…Ray
"and that he is so hated by the establishment"
How would you know unless you were a part of it – are you?
RayB on March 11, 2016 · at 2:53 pm EST/EDT
I'm dead serious. Question is are you? Why would I have to be "part of the establishment" nor you, to know what's splattered all over the news and on the internet? if you bothered to inform yourself. I can see by your snarky little remarks here that your obviously not, so I won't bother to try and abuse you of your willful ignorance. Do your own research and come back and try and tell me that the "establishment hates Trump" is not a verifiable fact, or let lost…Ray
"nor you, to know what's splattered all over the news and on the internet? if you bothered to inform yourself."
You'll be telling me you have a mind next.
E.g. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-economic-corporate-oligarchy-of-the-world/5386794
"The Milner Group controls the Institute. Once that is established, the picture changes. The influence of Chatham House appears in its true perspective, not as the influence of an autonomous body but as merely one of the many instruments in the arsenal of another power" (Quigley, P.197, 1981).
Lord Alfred Milner and Cecil Rhodes both shared an ethos that British expansionism would lay the foundation for a world system that was to come in the future:
"The goals which Rhodes and Milner sought and the methods by which they hoped to achieve them were so similar by 1902 that the two are almost indistinguishable. Both sought to unite the world, and above all the English-speaking world, in a federal structure around Britain. Both felt that this goal could best be achieved by a secret band of men united to one another by devotion to the common cause and by personal loyalty to one another. Both felt that this band should pursue its goal by secret political and economic influence behind the scenes and by the control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies" (Quigley, 1981, P.49).
Quigley was honest at admitting the dangers of a small oligarchical group having such a concentration of power vested in it:
"No country that values its safety should allow what the Milner Group accomplished in Britain – that is, that a small number of men should be able to wield such power in administration and politics, should be given almost complete control over the publication of the documents relating to their actions, should be able to exercise such influence over the avenues of information that create public opinion, and should be able to monopolise so completely the writing and teaching of the history of their own period" (Quigley, 1981, p. 197).
Today, Chatham House is one of the world's pre-eminent organisations on world affairs, which conducts its activities under a veil of secrecy. Very little mainstream media spotlight is put on the organisation which has been at the centre of British policy for close to a century – perhaps due to the fact that the BBC, Thomas Reuters, Bloomberg, the Telegraph Media Group, the Daily Mail and General Trust plc, the Guardian and the Economist are all corporate members of the RIIA. Raytheon, the Ministry of Defence, the British Army, the Foreign & Commonwealth Office UK, BAE Systems plc, Chevron, the Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC Holdings plc, the Scottish Government and the European Commission, are just a handful of organisations that also belong to the Institute.
Chatham House is one of the most influential organisations relating to western imperial policy, with the creation of an Anglo-American-European world empire the core objective of the institute. The Director of Chatham House has recently been announced as the chair of a new North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) policy group, which will advise and recommend future NATO policy. The Director Dr Robin Niblett revealed the intimate relationship between the RIIA and NATO since its formation in a speech about the new initiative last month, stating: "Chatham House has been involved in debates around the role of NATO since its inception". The European branch of this organisation (the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR)) has also had a strong affiliation with NATO, as 3 of the former Secretary Generals are individual members of the council: including the previous leader Jaap De Hoop Scheffer (Jan 2004 – Aug 2009), along with George Robertson (Oct 1999 – Dec 2003) and Javier Solana(Dec 1995 – Oct 1999)…[]…The elite will remain in control as long as people allow themselves to be Balkanised by the media and the political establishment along the lines of race, class and status, whilst the true enemy to a free world continues to roll on unabated"
It really doesn't matter who wins.
RayB on March 12, 2016 · at 9:42 am EST/EDT
Well I'm truly impressed by the brilliance of your minds capacity to anonymously dispense with such ad hominem one liner nastiness. Outdone only by your abilities to cut and past at length the work of other writers to try and prove your point and as a crutch and a lazy substitute for expounding on your own thoughts. I would guess it's meant to impress us all with your cleverness and the depth of your knowledge.
Your livid minds ego must live imprisoned within a delusional state that assumes everyone else is ignorant of the facts and that nobody but you knows and is cognoscente of the reality that "It really doesn't matter who wins." as you pontificate on. Or that we don't already know that in general terms POUTS is but a pre-selected puppet that serves as a PR front man to the interests of his puppeteer masters that pull all of his strings. And that as President he (or she) must be totally controlled by the "deep state" which is run by a small cabal of elites and international bankers that own a world wide web of corporations.
OK, so what else is new that your bringing to the table for us ignorant folk here to learn about that we don't already know? I would let your nasty little digs here just pass as beneath dignity to bother to respond to, excepting for the fact that since it appears to have struck a raw nerve in you, I will take the opportunity to elaborate on the premises of what I'd put forward about "self righteous cynicism" being the same as "uncritical gullibility and just the other side of the same coin.
In my experiences, the mindset of a hardened skeptic or know it all cynic like you, is composed of a completely closed looped system of theoretical beliefs, uncritically held and masked as a set of unalterable ironclad facts and truths. A cynic having learned of a political cover up or a conspiracy theory or an ism such as 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely' or that 'all politicians are corrupt and sold out" will unquestionably apply such a frame work of theoretical beliefs in absolute and unalterable terms to everyone and on every single issue and event that they encounter.
This kind of ridged lineal thinking and mindset having categorized and boxed everything along the lines of a set number of theoretical belief systems virtually incapacitates the cynical skeptic from dialectical thinking or from dealing with complex realities such as mistakes made or changes in a program or the contradictions inherent in peoples character and events, preventing them feting out nuances and discerning what's actually fact from dogma and theoretical fiction or their own wishful thinking.
The radical political cynic displays an almost paranoid disposition towards the world and views with suspicion anyone expressing an opinion not fitting in with his own preconceived notions. He is incapable of dealing with practical reality or tolerating anyone's thinking that doesn't fit in with the his own programs and agendas.
Thus he'll viciously launch rabid attacks on anyone thinking outside of the box and expressing views that don't strictly adhere to his own ideological beliefs systems. Just as I have been here by you. It's an attribute that's commonly displayed by fanatics of all strips, such as ideological zealots both on the far left and the far right as well by radical religious fundamentalist.
I take it that by copying and pasting an old Global Research articular (which I long ago have read) about the control the Banks and Oligarchs have over society and the political system, that your intent was to prove to me your theory that Trump is one of them and totally in their control or put up as a presidential candidate as part of some sinister scheme.
If so I will reiterate once more my premise that "Trump is so hated by the establishment" (Wall St banks, oligarchs, military industrial complex, deep state media and all). Because that he's an oddball fluke and outsider that got into the political club and his now crashing their party only because he's independently wealthy (as was Kennedy) and a famous public celebrity with a lot of pull and not that easy to stop.
It obvious to anyone paying any attention that Trump's an anomaly and his campaign is a freak-show as far as the establishment is concerned. He's a complete misfit within his own class and in the political arena, because he's absolutely clueless about how the deep state actually operates and it's hegemonic imperialist plans of achieving world dominance into the next century, by way of economically exploiting and enslaving the planet with it's "free trade" deals (such as NAFTA and the TPP-4) and it's ever expanding military might perpetually fighting on multiple war fronts. Not to mention covertly as well.
That Trump brazenly rails against their cherished free trade deals and wants to make peace with the world at his packed public rallies is deeply embarrassing to them and the reason they are all up in arms. Maybe that's why they are now organizing massive liberal street rallies, that have turned violent causing Trump have to shut down and cancel his latest campaign speech in Chicago. Expect more of the same to be orchestrated by the establishment whom as I said before are intent on eliminating him one way or the other.
Best laid plans of mice and men don't always work out exactly as planed however. Witness how far Kennedy got before they could put a stop to him. Or as the deep states plans revealed in 2001 to invade 7 countries in the MD and NA in 5 years grossly behind schedule. And who would have thought of the Russians now stepping in to clean up their proxy ISIS terrorist mess in Syria? But the empire has the resources to tweak the plans and never stops trying.
That said, it's reach and power is not Omnipotent and completely immune to unanticipated events such as Russia and China eventually breaking it's back. I think what your trying to indicate, is that the banks and oligarchy are invincible and have the whole matrix sewn up lock stock and barrel and that we all may as well just give up and not bother to resist and hopelessly go off and die under a rock somewhere. Or steep ourselves in the kind of know it all cynical attitude that you've portrayed here by attempting to humiliate and belittle someone that prospers any ideas with which you don't completely agree.
My best advice is that you climb under a rock or back to your own little sand box and play with all of your theoretically hypothetical make-believe fantasy toys and just keep on bending your mind, by forever trying to force square pegs into round holes.
That's all I'll ever say on the matter again..Ray
as well as religious
I would pass it by as not worthy of a
"In my experiences, the mindset of a hardened skeptic or know it all cynic like you, is composed of a completely closed looped system of theoretical beliefs, uncritically held and masked as a set of unalterable ironclad facts and truths."
Most are born and die in the closed loop you describe.
In my experience, only after long observation and analysis did recognition occur that social systems inevitably result in the maladministration of power, by the powerful, in favour of the powerful – most recently enabled by the practically unfettered accumulation of wealth in crony Capitalism.
Paraphrasing:
"A cynic having learned of a political cover up or a conspiracy…[]…preventing them feting out nuances and discerning what's actually fact from dogma and theoretical fiction or their own wishful thinking."
The nuances here are unimportant. If a conspiracy theory is the simplest explanation then it is probably correct (have you got one for the real reason behind 911?)
"…rabid attacks on anyone thinking outside of the box"
In my opinion your analysis is centre box and ridiculous. Of course, you can call that what you want (as you just did).
"…[]…that your intent was to prove to me your theory that Trump is one of them and totally in their control or put up as a presidential candidate as part of some sinister scheme."
Absolutely – it's the simplest conclusion. Admittedly, proof of most stuff here is above our paygrade so opinion it must remain.
"…Because that he's an oddball fluke and outsider that got into the political club and his now crashing their party only because he's independently wealthy (as was Kennedy) and a famous public celebrity with a lot of pull and not that easy to stop."
I don't bet. I don't trust odd-ball flukes – yours is an an incredibly unlikely scenario.
Independent wealth of this magnitude only signifies the man's depravity (my understanding is that tens of thousands starve to death, daily). Celebrity culture has been nurtured by the elite to suppress critical thinking. I detest the basis you state on which he has a lot of pull etc.
"…because he's absolutely clueless about how the deep state actually operates"
Even if you are correct at this point then I have no doubt they will pull the appropriate strings and he will reciprocate. If he didn't, like Kennedy's demise – it doesn't really matter anyway.
"That said, it's reach and power is not Omnipotent and completely immune to unanticipated events such as Russia and China eventually breaking it's back. I think what your trying to indicate, is that the banks and oligarchy are invincible and have the whole matrix sewn up lock stock and barrel and that we all may…"
It seems incredulous that the Russian elite was subjugated in the 90's only to re-emerge as a "threat" to the dominant elite. If I am wrong then I it is of no consequence. The elite of China & Russia are deserving of no respect.
You are correct – I am not hopeful.
"…That's all I'll ever say on the matter again"
Thank god for that.
But…I assume you made your comment in a word processor and you failed to copy some characters at the end – if you wish to share those i'd be interested in reading them.
Well I'm overwhelmingly impressed with the efforts you've made here to expound on your own thoughts and the relative civility of your response this time around.
Tho I imagine that your tongue must hurt an awful lot as a result of how hard you've been biting down on it, your detailed point for point response's to mine are exactly the kinds of answers I might have expected from any unrepentant political Cynic, Trotskyist or Anarchist. (not that I hold the last one in contempt excepting for all the current fake neo one's)
And while I said I wouldn't "say anymore on the matter" meaning I'm not interested in belaboring the point or getting into a tit for tat cat fight over it,
I think that the central point of contention between us (concerning who Trump really is) is worthy of an answer, if only for the purposes of discerning what's political reality here.
I do agree with you in general terms that just as does the mafia, the deep state invariably operates out of necessity on a conspiratorial bases. However to extrapolate from that, that every single political act and actor must therefor be part of some grand scheme and part of a totally controlled conspiracy, is a grave mistake because it denies practical reality in my estimation.
Shit happens, things go astray and terribly wrong and not according to plan, people rebel or defect and spill the beans on the state, real leaders arise, untether themselves from the shackles of the oligarchies and assert independence from US hegemony, (such a Putin is doing today) necessitating for the deep state to constantly have to fight a rear guard battle, covertly and overtly try to maintain it's control over the masses both domestically and internationally.
As for my assertions that "Trump's an anomaly" and a wildcard who's not part of their game plan to deprive the voters of any real alternative choices, based on my observations of his conduct in the public arena, I believe that my assessment remains true and the correct political analyses of the situation.
Your initial response was to ask if I'm "serious" and how would I know "unless I was one of them"? (meaning of the establishments elites) and "are you?." Obviously meant to be an insult which begs the question, "are you"? and who are you to know who he is with any degree of absolute certainty?
And while I've backed my contentions with some observable facts about his uncouth raging anti "establishment" behavior, and the establishments visceral and venomous reactions to him, you on the other hand haven't furnished me with any evidence whatsoever for drawing your own conclusions other than to respond as follows to my claims…..
With you responding by saying……….
"Simplest conclusion" indeed and exactly my point about about the skeptical cynical mind filing everything into the same box under the label of conspiracy theories, absent of any verifiable evidence to support it.
And while what you say is true that both of our respective conclusions "must remain" (for the time being at least) in the realm of our own personal "opinions", until some irrefutable evidence is forthcoming, mine at least are backed up by some observational facts and common logic, (like why on earth would the deep state want it's dirty laundry aired out in public by Trump?), while your premises relies solely on the hypothetical notion that since the state operates on a conspiratorial bases, therefor every actor and event must be in their total control, driven and directed by them.
Even if your conspiratorial hypothesis is miraculously 99% correct most of the time, how can you in all fairness apply it 100% of the time. Would you convict and sentence a black man in the Bronx or Harlem to a death sentence for allegedly having committed a murder without any real evidence but "simply" on the bases that the last 99 homicides there happened to have been committed by persons of the same skin color and claim that therefor "it's a simple conclusion" and that "obviously" he must be guilty of the same crime.
Your simpleton conclusions are absurd and deify analytical logic and the need for any reasoned and rational situational analysis of all the facts and evidence at hand, and thus reflect the type of absolutest thinking displayed by racist, fanatics and fascists of all kinds.
Just because Trump happens to have become a billionaire as a result of his inheritance from his Dad and his real-estate wheeling and dealings and hob nobs with presidents and the political elite as well as the rich and famous, that doesn't atomically mean he's ever been in the loop or on the inside track playing their geopolitical games.
I think that your blanket hatred of all the filthy "rich" has blinded you to the ineptitude and ignorance of political reality of many of them have. I personally have a US multi millionaire relative that doesn't have a clue about the inner workings of the deep state apparatus or US imperialism.
Just listen to Trumps naive halfwited rages and rants against the entrenched establishments world order and their dismal failures as regards to domestic economic policy failures and their botched foreign wars. He doesn't seem to have any idea of why they actually operate that way.
Fact is that to any keen observers he appears to display more of a brute neanderthal temperament and is of a neophyte mentality regarding the working of the deep sate, in contrast to all the more sophisticated political players surrounding him. So for what purposes and to what ends would the deep state be motivated to try and somehow use him as some kind a tool?
And while we can both agree to respectfully disagree on the different conclusions we've each reached, the question is not strictly an academic one, nor an entirely irreverent one as you seem to indicate, since any actions we might take (or fail to take) in life inevitably follows the available information we have and the conclusions we draw from it.
Having challenged me on my assessments of what Trump represents, I think the onus is on you to provide some kind of motives and evidence as to why you think he's just another agent of the deep state and how his wild escapes are of any use or of any real benefit to them?
And while Trump's no hero of mine, he's brought the issue of peace in the middle east and with Russia into the public domain and that's at least a hell of a lot more than any of the other warmongering candidates for POTUS combined have ever done.
What's important here is that for all of their shortcomings and faults is that both Sanders and Trump have touched on an anti establishment nerve in the American electorate that has the potential at some point to ultimately lead to an outright revolt against the establishments order, given the right kinds of political analysis and leadership.
Re: 911 it doesn't actually require any theories other than to know that the official inquiry was a conspiracy to cover up the facts that don't add up. Once we know exactly how all three towers and the pentagon where brought down, which to date hasn't actually been adequately determined, we will know exactly who was capable of doing it and the whys will become self-evident.
Re: Russia, not sure what you mean by the elites now reemerging since the 90s. It was the criminal oligarchy that at the behest of the west plundered Russia for a decade until Putin began to put a stop to it during the last decade and begin rebuilding Russia's economy and military might back again into a world class power capable of challenging the US again.
Meanwhile try and avoid indulging in hopelessness and just remember "that there is a crack a crack in everything, it lets the light shine in".
PS: Just disregard the stray half sentences that accidentally got tagged onto the end of my last letter as they are meaningless.
…nothing new…etc…etc…
"It was the criminal oligarchy that at the behest of the west plundered Russia for a decade until Putin began to put a stop to it during the last decade and begin rebuilding Russia's economy and military might back again into a world class power capable of challenging the US again."
See the line "Coefficient of funds (coefficient differentiation of income)10), in times" – as you previously hinted, do your own research to become informed. In my opinion, Putin should be shot & your buddy should either get a conscience or be shot along with him.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/17/trump_you_will_find_out_who_really_knocked_down_the_world_trade_center_secret_papers_may_blame_saudis.html
"Trump says if he is elected: "you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center."
"It wasn't the Iraqis," he explained. "You may find it's the Saudis."
"They have papers in there that are very secret," he also said, referencing the 28 still-classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. "But you will find out."
Well, since he already knows the secret (who it wasn't) then he sure as hell knows who it was…i'm imagine you watched already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubrZqLi_Sw but didn't dwell: starting at 1:28:50 then at 1:30:05:
according to USATODAY in 1999 the American Airforce conducted special exercises 4 times per year in which the hijacking of civil airplanes by terrorists was simulated, the selected targets were the twin towers and the pentagon immediately followed by footage of Rice and Bush saying:
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that they would use an airplane as a missile – a hijacked airplane – as a missile…"
The relevant section ends at 1:31:13. Flukes like this don't happen – the deep state are all over it and therefore Trumps attempted deflection is utterly deceitful.
Irrefutable evidence? you'll be dead for decades (if ever) before that happens.
Totally agree, and besides, it is very suspicious that he has the support the ultra far right, the Tea Party between them. Scary even for the most seasoned.
And then, that of that he is going to be an honest broker ( but such thing as an honest broker really exist? An oxymoron, no doubt ) in the affairs of Israel…. In short, her daughter is married to a Jew and has converted to Judaism! Not to mention the ties that he surely has with them in the real estate business in New York.
Of course, Hilaria is the worst, but Trump runs for the same old money behind the scenes, the Bushes and the like, he is in no way an independent actor, despite the circus unfolded.
I, if American, of course, never would second ideas or tips from brokers ex- official of the Bush adminisitration, let alone Harvard University Overseers who have old friends three-star general who ran the NSA in the Reagan administration, but I would follow my own instinct, and try to delegitimize the rotten to the core current system voting on the ballot for Putin ( just cross out the names there and write the name of Comrade Vladimir Vladímirovich Putin there with your favorite pen ), as a friend told me he did in the last election here, and I found an excellent idea.
It´s enough of clowns and circus since it´s no funny at all the millions of people and states vaporized, always on the other side of the Atlantic or very south, by the result of this endless american circus.
I see all as to go piss and take no drop, including some of what I read lately in this blog.
There is no such thing as the "ultra far right".
Trump has support of everyone that is anti-establishment, from republicans to independants to democrats.
He cannot control what his daughter does, and so what if she is married to a jew, not all jews are bad. Trump actually told of the bad jews at a jewish meeting where he said that he understands that they will not support him because they cannot buy him like they have bought all others.
A better suggestion would be to vote seriously and vote for Trump, as a victory by any other candidate will end in a nuclear war between Russia and USA and destroy mankind.
Vineyard Moderator - K.L. on March 15, 2016 · at 11:01 am EST/EDT
Your comment, submitted on 2016/03/15 at 9:27 am, that begins:
"Anonymous: (one page up above) you say………..
"In my opinion, Putin should be shot & your buddy should either get a conscience or be shot along with him."
Just shoot Putin and Trump down like a mad dog eh?…"
has been forwarded to Saker. I agree with much of what you wrote in your last paragraphs and I wanted Saker to read it. (I cannot divide the comment and approve one part and forward the other.)
And your relative buddy.
Persoally, i'd start shooting from the top of the $billionaire list and maybe stop when I got to $500,000 (but I doubt that).
Was the post approved – can you provide a link?
Anonymous: – " Persoally, i'd start shooting from the top of the $billionaire list and maybe stop when I got to $500,000 (but I doubt that)."
It's not necessary at all, seeing as how your comments above makes absolutely clear my contentions as for exactly why I believe your disturbed and in need of help. And that your comments have nothing of value to add to the quality of the discussions here and have no place being disseminated on this site, unequivocally clear and self-evident.
That is what gives Trump a chance, he is an oligarch, self finance, he does not bow down to anyone, that is oppose to all other candidates and most candidates in USA ever.. The only one comparable to Trump was Ron Paul, but sadly he was not an oligarch and could not fund his own campagin himself.
The 1% is not bad, it is the 0.001% that is bad.
Ron Paul was funded by oligarchs. Particularly Peter Thiel.
'Libertarianism' is a billionaires picnic.
Well, that wasnt enough oligarchs then.
John G on March 11, 2016 · at 6:26 pm EST/EDT
Well if you're happy to be a useful idiot for the powers that be, knock yourself out.
I have no wish whatsoever or the slightest desire to enter into any discussions with moronic people with extreme right wing views such as you hold. People like Liz are part of what is wrong with todays world and frankly it beats me what this Nazi is doing commenting on here.
You sound like you would be a perfect journalist for any PC in western Europe. They also like personal attacks and spamming nazi and racist on anyone that disagrees with them. Luckly the time of your ideoloy has past and traditionalist are rising all over western Europe and you PC-fascist will be gone from power soon.
Multiculturalism is the nazism of our time and will be dealt as such.
Frankly I am amazed that a comment riddled with personal attacks like yours got through the censored.. Or wait, I am not, now the big question is, will I be able to respond or be censored as it the norm?
:-) on March 12, 2016 · at 5:16 am EST/EDT
@ know the truth
"… People are truly monumentally stupid which is exactly how they have managed to get away with everything for so long. …"
"Die Shildbürger" is a famous old German folks classic. (A story about a mythical medieval German city "Schilda", now non-existent, originally known around the world for its exceptionally wise men. Who all purposefully turned to behaving like total idiots – in order to lose reputation for wisdom, so as not to be any longer constantly called away from homes and families by kings and emperors to serve as their court advisers. The story is a delightfully amusing compendium of silly things these folks were doing.)
Your truth above uncannily reminded me of the preamble to one of the book's editions:
"Human stupidity knows no boundaries, it is vast and infinite – just like the Universe itself".
Peter AU on March 10, 2016 · at 4:01 am EST/EDT
If Trump can win and stay alive, he will come out of this very wealthy (compared to his current wealth). I would like to see this because while he is screwing the establishment, the rest of the world will get a bit of a break.
The US will make a great reality/comedy TV show for the rest of the world to watch. Perhaps not Dick Cheney's version of reality but….
Yes indeed it will be interesting.
John Smith on March 10, 2016 · at 5:01 am EST/EDT
Why is Hillary bad? You say shes bloodthirsty, that shes the worst ever. Why do think this about her. What are the things she has done that make you hate her so much?
Ted on March 10, 2016 · at 6:02 am EST/EDT
JS, here's just one Hitlery crime against humanity: https://youtu.be/Fgcd1ghag5Y "We came, we saw, He DIED!!! Hahaha!" while her boss, Obomber, celebrates the crime by shooting baskets on the deck of an aircraft carrier. A failed state in Libya results, pumping arms and jihadists into Syria through Turkey. The US Ambassador to Libya and 3 others killed. Hitlery brazenly lies and covers up and most of the establishment lets her off the hook, because they are also all for using US created "Islamic Terrorism to pressure and ideally dismember both Russia and China. People here can add dozens of more crimes to the list. Brace yourself.
Yes, Libya was a massive fuckup, but with the blessing of Russia and the UN. And its still Obama who was the man in charge. Hillary just following orders. The "we came we saw he died" thing is pretty awful, but still just words. Its not like she pulled the trigger on gadaffi or her own ambassador. It's war and there's terrorists. There will be casualties.
And she lies you say. Well she is a politician. They lie. Is she worse than the others? Obama, Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, Putin?
Anonomus mentions Waco, JFK Jr and Vince Foster. What is Hillarys part in these?
I really dont like Hillary but I suspect she is no worse than anybody else on a personal level. On policymatters you can think what you want. You can hate or love the policy an politics, but I feel the hatred against Hillary is personal and I dont know why.
Try to convince me that Hillary is evil.
Andrei on March 10, 2016 · at 8:10 am EST/EDT
Neither Russia nor China gave their "blessing" to the Libya fiasco
They foolishly abstained on the resolution that established a "no fly zone" over Libya – UN Resolution 1973
Under the cover of this resolution NATO began a bombing campaign against the Libyan Government which was not covered by this resolution, not mandated by this resolution and in violation of all international law and norms
To claim that Russia and China gave their blessing to this crime is obnoxious in the extreme
Uncle Bob 1 on March 10, 2016 · at 8:23 am EST/EDT
I would argue that Libya wasn't with the blessing of Russia. Russia didn't veto the UN resolution. But that doesn't mean they liked it either. And the West misused the resolution as well. I don't see where Russia is to blame for the West's actions. The blame rests squarely on the NATO powers. As to Hillary. Her entire political career (other than meaningless words,its her actions that count) is one long trail of sellouts to the neo-cons. She is a warmonger,and Russophobe. If those aren't enough to brand her evil I don't know what would be enough for you.I agree with Saker that she is a real danger for peace if she becomes US President.
I agree, but Russia and China let Libya happen. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. They have learned from their mistake, see Syria.
You say: Hillarys entire political career (other than meaningless words,its her actions that count) is one long trail of sellouts to the neo-cons. She is a warmonger,and Russophobe. Could you be a little bit more specific. What makes her a sellout, warmonger and russophobe? And how is she different from other politicians?
Uncle Bob 1 on March 10, 2016 · at 10:03 am EST/EDT
Supporting NATO bombing of Serbia,supporting the Iraq war,supporting the Libyan attacks,supporting the coup in Ukraine,supporting the hideous Israeli regime,pushing for the overthrow of the Syrian government,pushing for more sanctions on Iran. And now making aggressive statements towards Russia. Taking huge campaign donations from the bankers.And others of the elite. The server issue. The Benghazi issue.The dirty tricks in her campaign. Is that not enough for you? As for her being different? Maybe just more extreme than many. Certainly more than her Democrat rival. And Trump her Republican rival. I have a question for you though. Since you seem to not dislike her. What is there in her actions that you see as worthy to be a President?
Anonymous on March 10, 2016 · at 11:46 am EST/EDT
Thank you! That was a good start to a list why Hillary shouldnt be president. I dont think its enough for the american public, though, since I think they belive america was in the right on attacking serbia, irak, libya, afganistan, pakistan, somalia, yemen, syria etc.
I don't like Hillary. She seems "not human" and extremly elitist, but Im afraid it makes no difference who will be elected as president. The problem is much larger, its systemic, institutionalized. And of course american exeptionalism plays a big role in this.
In Hillarys favor to becoming president is that she has a very professional campaign-staff and virtually unlimited money. She has experience in big politics, she i presidential (american style) and her rivals are even more cracy than her (by american standards). The elite will back her if Trump gets the republican nomination, or runs as a third party.
What the american public need to hear is why Hillary is incompetent to be president and how it affects them. She lies (when, where, about what?) She favors the elite over ordinary citizens (banks, bailouts, international treties like TPP, TTIP NAFTA) etc. I want dirt. Proof of Hillary lying to the public, to congress. Proof of missconduct. Videos, links etc. I want proof for why I feel she is as evil as everyone here thinks.
This time Trump is the only option for any kind of change in america. Not that I belive he'll be able to do much. Ron Paul would of been great last time around but he was brought down by the republican party. I dont think they will be able to do that with Trump. I worry that if Trump gets to the white house he will be in great danger. The elite will not accept a real choise.
I think he will be in danger from now until the convention. From the hidden factions of his own party, or should it just the hidden factions of power and wealth, parties being meaningless to those.
Geneva observer on March 11, 2016 · at 10:39 am EST/EDT
Why are you surprised that Hilary or any other politician lie?
They are allowed and encouraged by law to lie as long as they can claim that it was done as part of their government function.
You are unable to launch a libel action against any sitting politician. In Switzerland I believe it is even in the Constitution. Whatever they say in Parliaments is considered "protected speech".
This protects the state from divulging military secrets and other embarrassing facts of the day.
There is a different standard for plebians. You just have to realize it.
Jeremiah on March 12, 2016 · at 6:54 am EST/EDT
@ John Smith
Yes, Russia and China let Libya happen.
But that was not because they "did not know" what would happen to Lybia nad Kadafi: they were certainly not that stupid.
Rather, involved was some important "quid pro quo" anticipation, some clandestine "trade-off" deal, an "understanding" with their Western "partners" – where they got cheated. (What it was exactly, we can well speculate, though might not find out for sure in our lifetime.) And it was in that sense that they have indeed learned from their mistake.
"Russia, "the West", "NATO"
do you mean "Russian elite, "the Western elite", the "NATO elite"?
If so, how do you differentiate between the elites of these 3 groups i.e. do you consider a distinction between "the Western elite" and "NATO elite"?
Did you have a real comment are were you just wanting to foolishly play with semantics?
"were you just wanting to foolishly play with semantics?"
The point is you foolishly refer to these groups as though one (or some) of them actually give a damn about the "common" man (at least I hope you do).
It doesn't matter whether Hilary wins or the comb over and, in the long run, it doesn't matter if the Empire wins or the anti-Empire does since it will become the new "Empire".
All those negatives you refer to are inevitable – there are no good guys at the top.
silverscaledolphin on March 10, 2016 · at 9:49 am EST/EDT
it's blatantly obvious from her whole career, her various public statements like the utterly disgusting one cited by Ted above, or her similarly disgusting verbal attacks on Putin (e.g. "he has no soul", "we have to stand up to bully Putin", "Putin won't violate my no-fly zone" and so on and so forth).
the really disgusting thing is that this woman, like many other women in high ranking positions in the US administration, has absolutely no clue of "Real Life" ™. she was likely never punched in her face (or anywhere else) by a man. never experienced shootings or shellings, etc. I have come to the conclusion that's one of the main reasons such "women" (if you can call them women anymore) are so viciously aggressive and venomously inhumane. they have no idea what it's like to be at the receiving end. Madeleine Albright (former Korbelova) is yet another shining example, with her "500000 Iraqi children are a good price to pay". not surprising that Albright calls it a crime for American women *not* to vote for Hillary, is it?
contrast that with Putin – a judo 5th dan with 50+ years of experience, and a KGB/FSB man with 40 years of experience. very unsurprisingly, he's very calm and humane, and hardly ever verbally attacks anyone at all (and if, it's really more than deserved, like vs. some of the Russian oligarchs, 5th collaborationists, or the US warmongers).
Hillary is human vermin, the absolutely worst sort. if she is elected, then we should all prepare for WW3 right away.
John Smith,
Hilarity and her 'adviser' Sidney Blumenthal actively plotted, along with others to destroy Libya. She and her goat of a husband are operatives for the transnationals/globalists, from whom they get kickbacks for promoting the takeover – by treaty (TTP, NAFTA) or by violence (Libya, Ukraine – Nuland was a Clinton protege) or by exploiting natural disasters (Haiti). Do you think the Clinton Global Initiative is a whimsical title? Do you think Sidne y Adelson does not lead from behind?
It was she and El Sid who propagated the Viagra mass-rape lie, when it was the NATO/CIA mercenaries who were transported into Libya who conducted the tortures and rapes. She, he, McCain and others are outright war criminals – particularly Sarkozy and Blair .
Please Google FreeLibyaPress for a series of exposures of this, arguably the greatest war crime of the past fifty years, worse even than Iraq or Syria.
You should also read Voltairenet on the issue.
And please, stop using tropes like 'mistake' to explain away the rapes, murders, destruction, tortures endured by the citizens of Libya: that cackling witch made a fully conscious decision to enable these crimes, whereas a 'mistake' is an error committed unknowingly.
Whenever I see this standard apologia trotted out by the enablers of such heinous crimes, I can only assume they are complicit.
Would you have dismissed the Nazi atrocities on the grounds of such lazy equivocations?
John Smith on March 10, 2016 · at 1:43 pm EST/EDT
Thank you Eimar. Very good.
I don't think what they did to Libya was a mistake, it was on pupose. The mistake was made by Russia and China not to Veto and later not to intervene (good men doing nothing..). But Iike I said, they (Russia at least) learned from their mistake.
"But Iike I said, they (Russia at least) learned from their mistake."
Yeah…Yeah…Yemen…
Ra…Ra…Rasputin…
good men my ass – if anything, Russian elite looking after Russian elite interest.
Libya, Waco, JFK Jr, Vince Foster …
Liz on March 10, 2016 · at 11:55 am EST/EDT
Hillary is a psychopathic criminal with a serial rapist husband and she is funded by George Soros and Goldman sachs and she said she would shot down Russian planes in Syria to protect Al-qaeda.
falcemartello on March 10, 2016 · at 5:17 am EST/EDT
Sanders is a zionist supporter hence I am left of the political spectrum but his zionist support disqualifies him 4 me. Trump imediate family are all married to anglo-zionist hence makes me wonder. One thing is 4 sure knowing that the liberal interventionist and the neo-cons all hate him makes me wonder Trump is by far the better option. He is an isolationist which has been missing in US politics since the Roosevelt era. Further more all the msm all they concentrate on is his off the cuff statements but the bread and butter issues like infra-structure building and not favouring trade deals has the whole anglo-zionist corporatocrocy along with the Ashkenazi-Khazarian mafia running apoplectic makes me like him more and more. They are trying to stop him any which way they can than tells us a lot about US politics. It aint no democracy .
Eimar on March 10, 2016 · at 12:26 pm EST/EDT
Trump is just another plutocrat on one level.
But I wonder if even he has become alarmed at the raw, ugly truth coming out through the net.
Is Israeli 'security' worth the level of atrocities visited on the Middle East?
Is control over oil prices worth supporting the savagery of KSA?
Is the MIC an out-of-control monster, run by unelected, unaccountable agencies engaged in crime – drug-running, money-laundering, terror-funding, prostitution/human/organ-trafficking ?
Is forced migration from terrorism and deliberate corporate larceny of nation-states fit to be called 'foreign policy?'
Is liberalism to include the weaponization of sexual desires, even to the point of perverting the course of childhood (GLSEN, NAMBLA) and legalizing pdophilia through stealth – 'health and education'? ( HuffPo's 'Queer' section is busily laying the groundwork for legalizing incest, before people wake up to the consequences of anonymous donors siring millions of children with no awareness of who or where their siblings are: only the gay population in toto needs surrogate mothers, anonymous egg/sperm 'donors.)
And one gay man has already married his adopted son – a foreign national he adopted for relocation reasons. Now the precedent is set for total breakdown of all natural boundaries. Will Jeremy Irons retract his LGBT-coerced apology when he predicted this would happen?
Does some limit have to be finally placed on the sheer scale and depth of all this criminality and politically-engineered chaos?
So maybe, just maybe, despite his obvious class limitations, he might just have a sincere desire to rein it in.
I stake my opinion on the fact that this often chauvinist buffoon is also a father and grandfather, and that he does have some inkling of the outrage much of the global population feels. And that it is only two minutes from perpetual midnight for everyone.
I suspect he has backers likewise alarmed at the dementia /psychopathy gripping most institutions/elites in the Anglosphere, and finally, they have decided to do something.
Possibly Kissinger's recent visit to Putin bore a conciliatory message from same.
I stake my opinion on the fact that this often chauvinist buffoon is also a father and grandfather…
All the others also they are…..and many psycopaths also are, in fact, the psycopaths are characterized by being very prolific and promiscuous…..
Elsi – don't I know it!!
I am well aware of how flimsy my stakeholding is, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
If Trump at least curbs the MIC rot, and goes for a foreign policy of non-intervention/confrontation, it will be a step forward. A clear-out of the neo-con rat's nest would probably be too much to hope for, but who knows?
I am in the 'anythingbut Hilarity' camp.
She is a real psychopath.
Ok, and I guess and I hope that this is also The Saker´s position, but remember that Hitler also seemed a patriot and started as a legitimate elected member of the Parliament and then went increasing the hate for the Jews an other classified by them as subhumans in his speeches, made the Communists were harassed and beated till they had no other option than to go underground ( as in the Ukraine, btw ) and from that to set fire to the Bundestag, burn books, suspend all liberties and start a world conflagration was only a matter of going step by step. And the people, middle class and worker class who supported him, almost did not noticed how in the Earth could they have feed and rise such a monster.
Beware of populism, dear eimar!
Anyway, Fascism is coming, the signs are here and out there for anyone who would want to notice/see it, better is go swallowing it and be prepraring for to flee as I am really aware that when it reaches my coast, I will be denounced perhaps even by my best friends.
Well, it might have been written, "how in the Earth could have they fed and risen such a monster", of course, so sorry, I am kinda on fire this afternoon…
"and be prepraring for to flee as I am"
Where is left to run to? Cuba – the flag was raised at their embassy again not so long ago.
The stink of Russian Capitalism which will only lead to what you fear?
Everyone go where needed according to own ideas, possibilities, adaptive/stamina capacity, and tragaderas.
As I see it, most people will swallow and stay where it is.
Cuba I love the climate and the people, but the US is too close for my taste, and now with the new winds too many AngloZionist spies.
For me, being a Communist, the best destination, of course, is Russia, where, even if true, which it is not, what you say about being a capitalist country ( for now, we go slowly because we are going far ) a Communist can live without anyone disturbing you or looking you as if you were a mental patient or a terrorist, and you can even find some venerable old people with whom recall the exploits of Stalin in the former USSR.
This is all I can say for now.
"For me, being a Communist, the best destination, of course, is Russia, where, even if true, which it is not, what you say about being a capitalist country…and you can even find some venerable old people with whom recall the exploits of Stalin in the former USSR."
http://www.politforums.net/eng/historypages/1436539040.html
"What impartial scientific conclusions arise from these facts? Putinism-this is the exact opposite of Stalinism. For Putin may vote only those who blindly believe zomboyaschiku and does not want to think, to think about their country, and even to think about his future."
No, not joking at all.
The issue is that gives me a damn if it sounds as an impartial scientific conclusion for whoever or not, it´s my conclusion and fullstop.
The facts are that I like Russia and the Russians very much, amongst them Comrade Putin and his associates I do not dislike at all, and in Russia being a Communist is still a respectable way of thinking. And it is a fact also that there a lot of veteran comrades whith whom talk about Stalin there, as I have been able to see in the Parade of the 7th May, every year, where they are sitting with their uniforms and even with their photos of Koba in the middle of the Red Square.
Then, there are my perceptions, which are not facts ( for now ), and between them I have the inkling that neither Comrade Putin, nor Comrade Ivanov, nor Comrade Shoigu, are capitalists at all. There are some others of whom I am not so sure than with these three, but nearly, and they are all in the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
Anyway, even in the eventually that my pereceptions were misguided, I think i could live quietly in a capitalist Russia. I am living in a capitalist Europe, capitalist Spain, and, if not for the Fascism coming, I have managed quite well till the 2008 crisis, and I can say that even after it. What happens is that many others have not managed so well and even very badly, and so I think that the state of thing must change drastically.
"Comrade Putin and his associates I do not dislike at all"
In summary, you like Capitalists you like Communists more and you don't think the Russian Capitalists who set the policy are out to get you, yet.
Lucky you – you sound like you know what you want (even when it makes no sense).
Tell me what it's like when the last of the veterans die.
Ahh nostalgia, isn't it great :-)
Katherine on March 11, 2016 · at 4:13 am EST/EDT
elsi,
and from that to set fire to the Bundestag, burn books, suspend all liberties and start a world conflagration was only a matter of going step by step
Somehow I don't think Trump is the world conflagration type. But I can't say why I think this.
Since I don't watch TV (don't have one) and so don't have real-life impressions of him. But the outrageous things he says are erally no more outrageous than what our "official" politicians and billionaires do and say every day. Is Trump worse than Adelson? NO, no contest. Soros? Again, no. It is just that the latter twos' programs seem like business as usual. In fcat, they are far more disruptive than anything Trump has said. Adelson funds the settlement of the Occupied Territories, for Crissake. Soros has actively funded chaos in eastern Europe.
fascism is already here in the west. Straight out of Mussolinis book the Corporate State. It is known as the manual of modern fascism , Hitler read it while he was incarcerated in Austria and wrote Mien Kemp. Hence the corporatocrocy is alive and well in the west. Its days r numbered cause their usury fractional ponzi banking scheme is all but used up , why I say that just look at their discourse and Japan now has introduced negative interest rates that means we have to pay the banks interest on our savings account. Go figure
I hope you are right, but I fear I am, Eimar.
What does MIC mean, btw?
And, if you know it, also could you tell me what TPTB means?
I do not know how in the Earth you have to talk in this style as if we all had to know what your abreviations in the Anglosphere mean. Just the other day I could read a comment from which I understoodd not more than a half because of the abreviations issue, a lot in that comment.
MIC – Military Industrial Complex (served by non-complex, greedy eukarytes like John McInane.)
TPTB – The Powers That Be.
Yeah, I hate acronyms too, but admit to suffering a little from the disease. Guess I've hung out with too many nerds…:)
Secret Agent on March 10, 2016 · at 5:28 am EST/EDT
Sanders says pleasing things but I think he is like Obama: his intentions are good but he doesn't have the mettle to stand up to the oligarchy.
I've always despised the Trump persona but he has balls of steel and has proven himself to be a talented strategist. Pulling out of the Fox debate was was a master stroke.
He has spent moths under assault from the most powerful propaganda machine in history and they can't touch him.
He could be the Tyrant we need to bust up the deep state.
You are right about Hillary. She is deceitful and is a scumbag. Her narcissism will get a lot of people killed.
Go Donald go!
Wayfarer on March 10, 2016 · at 5:32 am EST/EDT
I believe the case can be made that Putin was a puppet who cut his strings. So it CAN happen, however unlikely. An amusing aspect about Trump is that he is much like Reagan – a TV star first and a politician later. Never underestimate star power. If he ever does make it to president, we can expect another Hinckley to show him who's boss.
Puppets have no agency so cannot self-liberate.
Putin is the silent, observant type in my view. The perception of 'agreeability' is often taken as tacit endorsement – when it only selectively is. Other times not.
The nineties was a sharp object lesson in how easily the structures of political and social protection can be dismantled with only the actions of a tiny group of people – providing they had the levers of power, especially media and political, in their hands.
I doubt very much he and the other members of the Security Council have failed to note – and learn.
Long-term solutions are difficult to both devise and implement, but they are nonetheless happening.
More, much more needs to be done to give alternatives in the media – and that includes information that challenges received Western liberal unwisdom.
RT, for example, shows signs of promoting eugenics/pdophilia-by-stealth through uncritical/'victim' framing of the aggressive Anglo-American LGBT agenda. That should be challenged by reporting crimes conducted by this population, including within it – more gay men are killed by other gay men than any mythical homophobia for example. Why are these murders never reported in Western Anglo media?
On the positive side, regular gay Russians who do not want to violate traditional family norms and are vocal about it could be given a platform. Or even foreign gays like the Italian Dolce Gabbana – very anti the use of women as cattle to bear children for wealthy gay men like Elton John and his partner. (They famously engaged in an online spat.)
Or the French group, Homovox, who were very vocal in their opposition to the legalization of gay marriage in France for precisely the same reasons: one of the main organizers of the Manif Pour Tous' was a gay man.
An American self-described married bisexual and father to several children has also been among the most eloquent and vocal opponents of gay marriage, gay adoption and surrogacy period. A professor at Cal-Tech, Robert Oscar Lopez was viciously targeted by LGBT trolls precisely for his highly-articulate and well-reasoned objections. An opinion piece from him on RT would do much to expand this issue and wrest control of the narrative from the eugenics /LGBT cabal. (To make matters even more difficult for homofascists, he self-identifies as queer, is anti-abortion and a Republican – no convenient labelling.)
In short, Russian media like RT could offer a genuine alternative to the homofascism that characterizes the Anglo-American agenda,even to the point of perverting the course of childhood (all the better for the eugenics agenda to replace the organic family with corporate-brokered designer babies.)
It would give Russia a lead into liberal culture, without sacrificing the essentials, as well as identifying fifth columnists without alienating the blameless majority. Just like the Zionist/Jew distinction Putin understands so well.
TooLegit2Quit on March 11, 2016 · at 9:40 pm EST/EDT
@ eimar:
"RT, for example, shows signs of promoting eugenics/pdophilia-by-stealth through uncritical/'victim' framing of the aggressive Anglo-American LGBT agenda [..]"
RT International has been turning liberal for the past few years. Now, I don't know if they do it to fit-in with the western media landscape they're competing with > as not to be accused of rocking the boat too much, or if they are actually infested by the liberal virus.
-TL2Q
mayhem on March 10, 2016 · at 5:42 am EST/EDT
Well I could vote but I haven't since Goldwater ran against LBJ.
The only positive thing for Trump is if one were to go back 20+ years and read what he was saying then it is the same that he is saying now.
Plus they can't buy him, and that is the reason they will do anything to stop him, while devastating the GOPe into extinction. Good, this country needs a few years of a dictator for the peeps to wake up and turn off their TV's and get involved. It will be with a whole bunch of hurt though. The ussa will have a dictator with either one because the economy will crash, and k-os will reign heavenly and a lot of people will die.
Mericans need this as sad as it is. So stock the pantry and ammo box, bad times are a comming
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Hmm ,"Plus they can't buy him"
http://www.sott.net/article/310490-It-doesnt-matter-who-wins-US-presidential-election-is-an-expensive-charade
"Unlike most the competition, Trump is already mega-rich – he has around 4.5 billion dollars. The implication is supposed to be that because he is mega-rich, he is incorruptible. That's a nice idea, except for the fact that 3.5 billion clearly wasn't enough for him or he would have stopped there, so there's little reason to believe 4.5 billion will do it for him, either."
So, just what are you saying to me by posting that article? Obviously you believe that anyone, anyone will fall for the temptation of more money. What that tells me is that YOU can be bought, that's all.
The article asks;
Go and find a really old person – the oldest person you can find – and ask them if voting ever made a difference.
I happen to one older person 73 years. I last voted back in 64 for Goldwater when I was 22 years. We did not have the instant media that exists today back then. I thought I was doing the proper thing, but sadly by 68 I read a intel report, (I was in the 497th Recon Tech Sq, USAF) that clearly laid out the fact that the Vietnam conflict was all about the oil/gas drilling off the coast of Vietnam. So some of us "old men" do have a great deal of knowledge, not the dumb old people that today's know it all youngsters readily try to portray us as.
Pertaining to DT he has been talking about running for Pres for at least 20 years now. I also have family who are deep in NY construction, and it is nothing but a huge kickback scam and Trump pays to get his projects done. He will donate to whatever just to make sure his buildings get built. If you have ever been in the contracting business as I have/was (retired now) you know you will have to pay or you will not eat.
On the fact that his daughter married a Jew is laughable if you think it would influence him one iota. My daughter married a RC, does that make me beholden to others who are RC. Such foolishness just exposes one's prejudices, and small thinking.
I haven't voted since 64 and have no intention on starting now. Nothing will change, God has foretold the future and neither you, me, or any political candidate can change that.
"Obviously you believe that anyone, anyone will fall for the temptation of more money. What that tells me is that YOU can be bought, that's all."
Not at all. Many people realise that money actually is the root of all evil – it leads directly to the dictatorship of the Oligarchy (aka the "Animal Farm"). While some of these people have the capacity to be rich they choose the right path – not to be.
"Nothing will change, God has foretold the future and neither you, me, or any political candidate can change that."
I hate Trump equally to Clinton & have little time for God either http://thesaker.is/arab-days-of-shame-must-read/comment-page-1/#comment-216944. You probably didn't realise but you hit the real source of the problem right on the head.
Veronica on March 10, 2016 · at 6:05 am EST/EDT
Trump, Clinton & the Danger of US Liberals; Global Economic Crisis and the Potential of World War
Eric Draitser appears on Community Public Radio (March 4, 2016) with broadcaster Don DeBar and Professor Anthony Monteiro to discuss the US elections and the implications for the future. The conversation begins with a discussion of both the Republican and Democratic sides with particular attention to the socioeconomic conditions giving rise to the anti-establishment sentiment among voters in both parties. From there, Eric, Tony, and Don talk about the likely outcome of the elections, the danger of both white and non-white liberals, and the implications for the US and the world. Be warned, there are some frightening themes discussed including the potential for global war, the historical precedent, and the danger of the current moment. All this and more in this wide-ranging conversation.
http://stopimperialism.org/trump-clinton-global-economic-crisis-potential-world-war/
Seamus Padraig on March 10, 2016 · at 8:02 am EST/EDT
I think you're writing off Bernie prematurely. The MSM is clearly in the bag for Hellary, but we already see that the same thing that happened to her in 2008 is happening all over again: as her challenger becomes better known, her campaign rapidly begins losing steam. This could go on a few months more before we know the winner.
Right now I'm a Bernie-Bro, but if Hellary wins the nomination, then I'll go for Trump.
Sanders is a bigot, the moment a politican start going fo race-baiting you should drop him, a few days ago Sanders declare that if you are born with white skin, you cannot be poor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BV-kbCt5IM
Kerala. on March 10, 2016 · at 8:15 am EST/EDT
There seems to be some change in the attitude towards Putin. Selectively neutral articles are seen in MSM. Take a look at this from guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/09/russian-hostility-to-west-partly-caused-by-west
fabien on March 10, 2016 · at 8:36 am EST/EDT
what's Ron Paul's position on Trump?
back2freedom on March 10, 2016 · at 2:50 pm EST/EDT
He refused to endorse him. He said after his son dropped out that none of the remaining candidates are any good.
woogs on March 10, 2016 · at 8:47 am EST/EDT
I find in talking to people that nobody likes Trump, yet they support him. The general consensus seems to be that he may be an asshole, but at least he's *our* asshole.
About damn time. We've had about about as many of *their* assholes as we can stand. We, and the world, need a breather.
David on March 17, 2016 · at 9:48 pm EST/EDT
Good one woogs! First time I've laughed today.
Wim on March 10, 2016 · at 9:03 am EST/EDT
Trump is for me the American Berlusconi. He is primarily focused on his own interests. For me it is an open question how he would behave as president. Yes, he likes now to tell it like it is. But he is also regularly changing his opinion on important subjects and the impression is that he primarily cares about himself. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if he compromised on everything with the powers behind the screens once he was president.
What I like most about Sanders is that he has had the courage to call himself a socialist in a country where there is such a stigma on that term. That shows both some courage and some skills. As for Israel, being a Jew one could hardly expect Sanders to speak out against Israel. But that will also give him the authority to take measures that Netanjahu doesn't like without being vulnerable to the label of being anti-Jewish.
As for Clinton, I share the Saker's opinion.
mayhem on March 10, 2016 · at 11:18 pm EST/EDT
And just where is Sanders going to get the money for all the free s#it?
Answer, raise da taxes on those who are barely making it now.
The Soviet Union has proven that it doesn't work, but people insist that it wasn't tried their way.
All of this all started when the Israelite's insisted that God give them a King instead of living by God's rules.
@ Wim:
"As for Israel, being a Jew one could hardly expect Sanders to speak out against Israel [..]"
(Part I)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if supporting Israel is some kind of litmus test for anything and everything, then both Russia and Putin fail that test too, and by the by… he, Vladimir Vladimirovich, also has a daughter who married to wealthy Jew.
And yes, admittedly, I don't respond very well to double standards of any kind. If something is wrong for one side, it's wrong for all sides and I don't wanna hear about the "complexities" involved anymore than I wanna hear why parents favorite one of their children over the others.
Additionally; if supporting Palestine [which for me is the true name for that area of the world, Israel doesn't even exists as a legitimate country as far as I'm concerned] is another kind of litmus test, then most of the Muslim world – particularly those Muslims residing in the West themselves fail that test since the vast majority of them can't care less about Palestine, nor the Palestinians.
So, my point is, if they don't care, why should I? But I do anyways on the grounds of Justice and Human decency, because… duh! Is the right thing to do, period.
I love it how the alternative media bend themselves into a pretzel trying to explain why they don't like Trump when the bottom line is that they don't like when he said that he would ban Muslims from entering the US.
Oh! But they never ask why if Muslims hate/resent the west so much, particularly the US, why on earth would they want to either "go west," or enter the US on the first place?!
It's like me, I can't stand Saudi Arabia, I would NEVER go there on my own accord. You would have to drag me there kicking and screaming. Oh, but if they ban me from entering their so-called kingdom… all over sudden I'll act all offended, outraged and "discriminated" against…
Give me a goddamn break! The normal reaction from Muslims (and their supporters) to Trump wanting to ban Muslims should be; Fine! We don't want to visit your pathetic country anyways.
Pancho Villa on March 10, 2016 · at 9:22 am EST/EDT
I used to think like that, my reasoning was something like what on earth of what Trump proposes is so outrageous compared to Obama´s presidency and hence the possibility of Killary exacerbating it? Banning muslims? I am sure Muslims would prefer to be banned than killed by the hundreds of thousands. Kicking immigrants out? Trump would have to hurry to catch up on the nearly 3 million that Obama expelled already. Build a wall? I fancy more a wall than Obamas murderous militarised border. etc.
…Until Trump started giving hints of wanting to war Mexico. Perhaps the man has indeed a xenophobic fixation with us?
Jason Muniz on March 10, 2016 · at 9:37 am EST/EDT
Trump is just a Nationalist-Capitalist, basically a fascist, its actually rather natural that this sort of xenophobic nationalism would rear its ugly head again as a reaction to the neoliberal capitalist oligarchy, in full effect since Reagan and Thatcher. But if history teaches us anything, it is that capitalism produces two reactions against it. 1) Fascism in all its little glorious(sigh) forms. From the cowardly Anglo variety, the treacherous German-dependent variety(think Mussolini actually watch his glorious end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw4noLIFgGQ ah butterflies in my stomach), the absolutist Nazi German one(I include Japanese fascism in this very authoritarian variety). 2) Communism-Socialist Imperialism; I would say that the best example is the USSR under Stalin who truly created a "Red" empire against the US capitalist oligarchy and its acolytes. Unfortunately among the Nomenklatura there was a treacherous element and the system slowly declined(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkA5u9u3TB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLiVaTZP6M). Stalin and Socialist imperialism will be vindicated, death to fascism and capitalism.
But, finally, as History shows us, human being does not learn, and here we are, after seeing what happened in the Ukraine, with even The Saker and some other thoughtful old commentators here, opting for an unpredictable fascist like this one, preferring to choose between bad and worse, as did the Ukrainians, instead of stopping the wheel once and for all and make what is needed to be done, reboot the system from its total fault .
Of course, with this, all our friends would lose their more or less settled status in the American establishment….
To change the world you have to be willing to leave your comfort zone and risk losing something or maybe all in the material aspect, if not, maybe you can lose everything, even freedom and life itself…..
But, as we can see, each day with more explicitness, Fascism is already here, and regretably to stay, as my guts told me when all in the Ukraine started. And, as in other ages of History, is going to establish itself with the approval of those who never would have imagined supporting it.
Very pessimistic Elsi.
The Saker is simply pointing out what current choices are within the existing paradigm – he is not even eligible to participate in it, much less change it.
All we can do is identify fascism. That d that means exposing it where it attempts to disguise itself with a 'liberal/tolerant' mask. Just as mass-murder and invasion attempts to disguise itself as 'freedom' and 'democracy' or 'humanitarian intervention.'
The key is to always articulate how so-called 'liberal' policies typically conceal fascist intent, usually by either targeting an existing underclass or needing to expand it to 'enjoy' whatever the group that gains power seeks.
At UN level, Malthusian agendas rule. That's where the real battle for the future of the human race – children – needs to be fought.
No, we do Not need nor want to reboot the capitalist system; we want to overcome it. Perhaps, for the US – if we exclude the world -, Sanders would be a better choice than Trump; but, for the world – including the US -, probably Trump would be better as he seems keen to change the US foreign policy – he certainly is not like Hitler.
If elected, could Tramp change and comply to the neocon agenda? Not likely, as he is known for his strong character (even if we do not like it). Sanders, on the other hand, seems to imply 'more of the same, again'…
Rita Lama on March 10, 2016 · at 8:14 pm EST/EDT
Death to fascism and capitalism!
Fascism is the end result of socialism when it inevitably fails. Not me saying that, history does
Obama is a pure fascist, Trump, Marine Le Pen, Putin, Farage these are the anti-fascist that will bring down the PC fascist system that dominates the west today.
@Elsi This new fascist reaction is only natural and was inevitable because of the neoliberal assault initiated 35 years ago by the international capitalist class and their acolytes Reagan and Thatcher. But be sure that there will be a new communist/socialist reaction as well. If history does unfold like that then the capitalists will opt for the new fascist alternative simply because communism makes no peace with them as fascism does. Also fascism is more than just superficial military parades and ethnic/racial separatism/supremacism; fascism calls for "cooperation" between the capitalists and workers in addition to that separatism/supremacism I mentioned. However if there is no communist reaction then the clash will be between these third positionists(fascists) and the international capitalists because these latter won't have any real threat that can challenge them. However I sincerely doubt that this will be the result because capitalism be it internationalist or nationalist needs a cheap labor source among other things in order to keep up the rate of profit high(this video explains our situation well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-OcHUzTbsU). This "peace" that Trump wants with Russia is really in the same spirit of Molotov-Ribbentrop. Trump speaks of making America "great again"; when did it stop being great? What does great mean to him? He doesn't really explain these things hell he doesn't seem to know how exactly this international socioeconomic system works. It seems(seems because as I said he doesn't really explain) Trump wants a world order in which the US will be the top dog again(nevermind the fact that they have a huge military) and certain nations will be "exploiter-partners" in this system; realistically speaking, Russia would be a natural resources appendage to this American dominated global system.
@Anonymous Watch the videos of Andrei Fursov, you will see that there was a liberal and treacherous element in the Nomenklatura, this is what lead to the collapse of the USSR not this "natural inevitability" of socialism failing and fascism taking over that you didn't really care to explain scientifically.
@Liz Obama is more of a social democrat, although he would still be on the right in Europe. So no he is not a fascist however it is interesting that you mention political correctness that outgrowth of social democracy. The close relationship between social democracy and fascism is taboo but it is real. At their socio-economic core fascism and social democracy are corporatist or class cooperationist; the difference is that social democracy lacks the ethnic/racial supremacism or separatism. This article from a Spanish comrade details well how social democracy and fascism are related and how the failure of the former can lead to the rise of the latter, which we are actually seeing: http://www.armesilla.org/2013/08/el-choque-de-fascismos-en-europa.html (it is in Spanish but google translator does a decent translation).
wilfried on March 10, 2016 · at 9:59 am EST/EDT
Hello dear Saker,
First time I'm commenting here, but already a faithful reader of your blog for some time.
I share my European origine with you, have a sister-in law who is half Russian (her mam russian and her father from East Germany, met each other in Leningrad studying for engineer).
I agree that the whole election thing in the States seems to be a farce, with the puppeteers controlling the process behind the scenes and 'dictating' the script (before as well as after the election) and not hesitating to eliminate anyone who doens't want to abide with their rules.
So one can only smile with the bias (and ignorance ?) of western journalists eulogizing western democracy and writing that Putin is a dictator.
Dictator or not, what's in a word after all, Putin sure is adored by the big majority of the russian people, and is admired outside Russia as well.
To illustrate this I could quote here for instance, if you allow me, an opinion of a prominent French University professor who works and lives in Eastern Europe, who is very knowledgable about tennis and by exception wrote his opinion about Putin on an american tennisblog (using « Mat4 » as moniker) to a mostly american reader public:
« Don't believe anything you hear or read about Vladimir Putin, who is an exceptional statesman », and writes further:
« Since Putin is the boss :
(Russian) GDP went from $195 billion (1999) to $2,113 billion (in 2013), per-capita GDP went from $1,320 to $14,800, Inflation went from 36,5% to 6.5%, gold reserves went from $12,6 billion to $511 billion, government debt went from 78% of the GDP to 8% of the GDP, average monthly pension went from 499 rubles to 10,000 rubles, average monthly wage went from 1522 rubles to 29,940 rubles .
What would I give for a president like that in France. Charles (Degaulle), come back from heaven, please! »
http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2015-09-22/20723.php#comment-650824
"… Sanders… While the Occupy Wall Street supporters might like him (especially if he teams up with Tulsi Gabbard) "
Ever since CIA lifetime actor Seymour Hersh name-checked Tulsi Gabbard in his recent article on Syria, I suspect Tulsi is a CIA lifetime actor herself.
How do I come to this conclusion? CIA folks love to circle jerk and give nods to each others and their hoaxes. That is how you spot them and how you spot their hoaxes.
Annonnymy on March 10, 2016 · at 10:05 am EST/EDT
Key point is will Trump bring the regime change with him if he wins? In that case he will be the Putin of the US, and possibly a saviour of US. I saw last night a very lively dream where I was in a big church with a lot of prayers and everyone was on knees, and I heard a voice that whispered in my ear, "I have mercy on the nation with the eye within the mountain." A bit difficult to translate it, I´m not a native english speaker, but it was something along those lines. I must say that I´m a pretty common man, a believer of the Christ, and this kind of an experiences are very rare to me. Afterwards I was wondering that what on earth means "eye within the mountain", and suddenly a dollar note came to my mind, and that pyramid symbol with the all-seeing eye on it.
Seamus Padraig on March 10, 2016 · at 1:54 pm EST/EDT
The pyramid with the all-seeing eye is an old Masonic symbol adopted for the dollar by Alexander Hamilton.
MV Jim on March 10, 2016 · at 8:12 pm EST/EDT
Your dream has brought me a sense of relief, tears of joy & hope for the future.
Ps 5:11
let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee
Hillary Clinton is, like Bill Clinton, a classic CIA lifetime actor.
Donald Trump = who knows?
he is refreshingly politically incorrect
he is straightforward, fearless
he speaks his (confused) mind and what he says comes from the (underdeveloped) heart
he made his money in the mafia casino business
he has no clue (the only thing he knows is 'making deals')
he supports torture, building walls (Mexican borders) and all kind of low-level nonsense
he is no Putin, obviously
Raven on March 10, 2016 · at 10:29 am EST/EDT
Well, within the United Criminals of [North-] America (UCA) there always has been a very simple solution if the unexpected happens: please remember Jefferson, Kennedy, Lincoln, … and even Reagan almost was assassinated. [Presidency of the United Criminals of [North-] America was the most lethal in the world!]
So don't be afraid, even if Trump will be elected he will not stay for long. And of course the same is true for any Sanders or whom ever you name. One more hint: 75% of killed presidents of the UCA have been republicans. Since a very long time it has been decided, your beloved Hillary will be next president – fullstop.
This brings back an old topic: the UCA never has been any kind of democracy, even not the best democracy you can buy. Instead from the very beginning it's been a (multiple) mafia clan – fulltsop again. Even historians from Northamerica proofed that each and every sentence of the socalled constitution was due to the (financal) interests of at least one of the socalled authors – so the UCA is simply a (big) mafia organization.
Therefore, dear Saker: leave for the better (more eastern) side of your origin (not western Europe). Even if this means you will have to completely take down your pants. But UCA is prone to be the next failed … empire (a state it never has been). Europe does have a long tradition of resurrecting after being totaly destroyed. The UCA still believes to be God's own country and all the time made only one experience – always succeeding. At least they make people to buy it. There is not a single experience in resurrection. Maybe you remember McCarthy? Anyway they will remember the other side of your origin – just seconds before the final touch down.
Kathy C on March 10, 2016 · at 10:59 am EST/EDT
Actually polls show that Sanders would beat Trump in almost every poll taken
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
Although Trump is winning in the Republican primaries, he only has about 35% of the Republicans behind him. So the question is – will the other 65% do anything rather than vote for Trump? Even vote for a man who is nominally socialist? They well might.
But in the end irrelevant because the men behind the curtain will have their way one way or another and any president that thinks different will be removed, one way or another.
Those polls does not include the superdelegate system the democrats use. Basically they have 800 former mayors, capitalists, industrialists and so forth that each get 10 000 votes, and whoever they vote for generally win of course. With that system Sanders can be supported by the people by Hillary will win anyway.
I believe everyone will rally behind Trump in the end, actually I heard top neocons declare they would rather vote for Hillary then Trump.. If they do that, and I hope they do, that would probably finally discredited and kill off the neocon movement within the republican party.
I use to like Sanders and Trump, but the Sanders revealed himself to be another PC bigot, declaring that white people cant be poor, at which point I as any decent person of course drop any support for that racist trash. Sanders also wanted a nuclear war with Russia and was a zionist as the article mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYALsy7dYtc
Trump on the other hand seems genuinely to support americas, no matter if they are white or black and he wants peace with Russia and he wants to work with Russia and he said he would be neutral in regards to the palestinian issue.. Which might seem like a milk-toast statement in many parts of the world, but it is huge among republicans, every single other republicans swear that they hate palestinians and will be as unfair and unjust as possible.. So compared to that, Trumps statement is pretty great. Probably the best you could get out of a republican on that issue..
Trump also in a speech before USA jews, said that he knew they would not support him, because they could not buy him like they bought the other politicans.
Pass the popcorn... on March 10, 2016 · at 11:50 am EST/EDT
Neither do I vote — being an external alien.
However, what I find interesting about Trump is the strategy he appears to be following — consciously, or otherwise.
Yes, he could be as presented: the big idiot.
However, what other possible scenarios may apply?
Theory: Complex systems and "fail-safe", or getting it right? That is, including failure, and planning through that failure, by learning more about the terrain being traveled.
Here is a sample from a searchable blog source: "Complex environments are best described as a system where cause and effect are not obvious, and may not ever be fully known. In these environments, traditional tools such as outcome-based project management and scientific methods are a poor fit. Safe-fail experimentation is a problem solving technique that emphasizes controlled failure through the conduct of many varying experiments. It is particularly effective in a complex environment as a method of learning."
Ok, someone mentioned Deng Xiaoping: his "cross the river by feeling the stones" metaphor-strategy may be appropriate — he (and China) didn't have it all figured out, but the direction was set. The other side of the river.
Trump may not have it all figured out but he appears well on his "Delaware Crossing" way and his improvised boat something of a new American Revolution 240 years after 1776. That's the BS myth angle.
My 'tea-leaves' say Trump. My gut says Trump based on his fit into an archetypal niche of the American psyche. My sense says Trump based on some weak signals suggesting some openness in suggestibility for a Reagan type figure. My soul says anyone but the war criminal '… He died!' Clinton — a Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright 2.0. My head says whomever can work with Putin and Xi etc. My heart says whomever is best (of a worst bunch) for the poor Palestinians in and around apartheid Israel.
So what is going on?
1. I don't take the superficial 'clown' narrative seriously — this guy can afford the best strategic advice and he is playing to win in his own constructed 'Matrix'. Highly likely he's doing a version of Putin's "rope-a-dope" drawing the vindictive ad hominem while playing for time (for others to make bigger mistakes).
2. He's speaking from wealth to votes — not wealth to wealth as most others are (in the end, $dollars do not vote).
3. He's playing the Alexander sword card with the US political Gordian Knot.
4. His fundamental point of distinction is lack of ideology — and I believe this is the 'end-times' of defunct ideologies and the beginning of pragmatic negotiation. Trump is THE 'Big Fat' Negotiator. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH61QsNJg90)
5. He is (or presents as) the uninitiated archetypal white male and that just blows the closed DC Cult system out of the water.
6. If 21st century faux capitalism is too big to fail, then 21st century faux democracy will have to take the hit in its place. For those in the alleged sinking middle classes, sharing the emerging reality and pain with the Wall St criminals is about all they can do. Joe-six-pack can see how to rebuild the national economy. The Wall St weasels and esoteric policy wonks are scared sh_tless.
7. With a Jewish wife (& therefore children) he can't be faulted on that theme. But he clearly sees straight through the blood sucking Nutanyahoo BS antics and the apartheid curse on the original peoples of the Palestine region. Fair-is-fair, but more importantly for a core-valued 'exceptional' negotiator: it is essential for it to be in good faith. I suspect this may be one of his core-values (and perhaps the only one?).
The list goes on, but the point is this — he's rattled every cage and even got the military industrial complex vomiting it won't obey their Commander-In-Chief (and the people's President). There must be half a continent of struggling ex-military vets that would vote for him on that "shaft 'em" theme alone.
The Bush scabs have fallen off one eye. The Clinton scabs are falling off the other (or at least the risk is increasing). It's a brave new world and a potential Matrix reset. That's the sell (aka, 'the changes you donkeys can believe in …" ). But day 2 after election my 'ground hog day' tea leaves also say — No Big Change in sight and business as usual (minus a few blood sucking neocon crazies in the control room and some defunct globalisation programmes etc).
In 1968 I came across a small 20-min Super-8 film on new anti-tank technology. Dated as hell now, but the heading is relevant, imo. "Old Paradigm: 'Ready, Aim, Fire…' — New Paradigm: 'Ready, Fire, Aim…' ".
Like it or not, Trump has pulled the trigger, and is now aiming with a small incremental test-fail-safe experiments to feel his way to the White House. It is a sound strategy in strange interesting times and chaotic systems environments. It is not fool proof but neither is Trump a complete fool (except for those who fall for the dope-rope trick). His biggest advantage of with this is that the ideologues have absolutely no answer to it. Why not? Because fundamentally, it is based in reality, on facts extracted from action research 'in progress'. And he's running the experiment.
Pass the popcorn, please …
Well said. Trump has managed among other things to make even more obvious that which was becoming more and more obvious to more and more people in the US: that the Republican and Democratic parties are tweedle dum and tweedle dee, same demented theatrical production, different actors.
What seems to have happened to many people, who began by assuming the worst of Trump, is an adjustment towards grudging or enthusiastic acceptance of him as an outsider and a threat to the prevailing political system. Trump is easily seen as genuinely, as opposed to merely rhetorically, an American nationalist. He is seen as capable of giving real leadership in a critical matter: building infrastructure, and creating jobs; of being an activist president in economic policy. In my forays into various media, a fairly common thread goes like this: Trump has grown on me; I began by dismissing him as a buffoon, or viewing him with cynicism, but the more I look at his record, and the more I see and hear of him, the more I like him.
You lost all creditably with this statement.
7. With a Jewish wife (& therefore children) he can't be faulted on that theme.
You obviously know nothing if you were referring to Trump.
more popcorn... on March 11, 2016 · at 11:12 am EST/EDT
Ok, my bad. Technical correction for the record: His daughter converted and married. Point 7 still holds water.
"(JTA) — Among the expansive field of Republican presidential candidates on display in the party's first debates Thursday night, Donald Trump may be the most closely connected to the Jewish people.
Trump is from New York, works in professions saturated with Jews and long has been a vocal supporter of Israel. His daughter and two grandchildren are Jewish, the executive vice president of his organization is Jewish — and Trump certainly has chutzpah. . . .
Trump's closest Jewish association is with his daughter Ivanka's family. Ivanka Trump, a fashion designer and celebrity in her own right, converted to Judaism before marrying Jared Kushner, the son of New York Jewish real estate mogul Charles Kushner."
http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/318770/trumps-strong-jewish-ties/
Charles Fasola on March 10, 2016 · at 12:07 pm EST/EDT
I do not vote because it makes me complicit in the crimes of the empire. By voting I am providing legitimacy to what is not a democratic government but is instead a world wide organized criminal syndicate. Elections do not a democracy make. Then there is the fact that in the US your vote does not, in reality, elect the potus. Your vote elects delegates to the electoral college. That institution perculiar to the empires electoral process. Which allows factors other than the will of the majority to select who is the winner. Not to mention the numerous frauds that are part and parcel to the process.
One final question, explain why you consistantly qualify your opinions with maybe's and such?
Ezra Pound's Ghost on March 10, 2016 · at 1:02 pm EST/EDT
American definitely needs socialism….National Socialism, that is.
Ted on March 10, 2016 · at 1:53 pm EST/EDT
No, what needs to happen is a purging of Nazi occultists and their ghosts by shedding light on their sick and murderous psychopathy.
Including Prescott Bush and his progeny of lesser fascist bushes, wherever they sprout:
http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnHnjmCYjy4
You want a rerun of the early thirties through the mid forties? We're in it, Ghost. Thanks for speaking up. Maybe it will wake a few more people up, in revulsion and determination to end the nightmare, by waking up enough others.
America already is socialist, what you talking about ? That my friend is the problem !
Marc de Sterke on March 10, 2016 · at 1:03 pm EST/EDT
Dear Saker
Super article!!! Everything spot on, I enjoy your intelligence and insight, we truly live in a mad world and I am trying to keep sane, all around me people live and have no idea what is going on, if one says something one is branded, if is maddening! Trump is of course villified no end as is Putin , AH, the one thing which is well looked on is going after the "right" the fanitical left is here very rought and ruthless but well protected by the correctness…the media repression is all invading, the bright minds are voicing their concern in secret ways which are then interpreted officially as subversive underground financed by dark forces…… It is really kindergarten.
Blessings to you.
Y.L. on March 10, 2016 · at 1:11 pm EST/EDT
The best explanation of Trump is to be found at The Daily Bell:
http://thesaker.is/the-next-presidential-election-a-meaningful-choice-for-the-first-time/
The mainstream media is filled with howls about Donald Trump. Even the most positive articles about him tend to catalogue his political achievements within a larger context of GOP consternation and evident fury.
Here is our question, as close observers of the mainstream media: Is it propaganda of a sort? Is the evident antipathy orchestrated to serve certain purposes of a shadowy power elite?
To elaborate: Are those at the top of US society who evidently structure and control US elections creating a figure that is sympathetic to the tens of millions who are deeply alienated from almost every part of establishment society?
Is Trump himself part of a deeper plan? After all, by providing a significant political service to very powerful individuals, Trump could gain significant professional advantages.
There is no doubt that elite factions wish to destroy the US as a significant republican force. At the same time, they want the process to be a controlled one. The end game is to be carefully calibrated. Trump can help with that process.
Additionally, just as the mainstream media has focused on the negatives regarding Trump, so the alternative 'Net media has taken an opposing perspective, often supporting Trump enthusiastically.
Ironically, then, the alternative media is celebrating a man who just a year ago would have been characterized – rightly or wrongly – by many of those outlets in a different and more negative light.
The essay then concludes:
Also, Congress creates and passes legislation. To the degree that Trump could make his presence felt, it would be through unconstitutional executive orders. Thus he would be helping destroy the remnants of the constitutional process he supposedly wants to uphold.
Finally, as a larger than life figure, he might contribute to the expansion of presidential authority, also unconstitutional. And his continued success will certainly continue to disrupt the alternative media.
Think of Rome, and the emperors it endured. Were any of them – even the best-intentioned – able to redirect the decline of society and the violent degeneration of the Roman economy.
One man can do little or nothing when faced with larger systemic dysfunction.
Worth reading in its entirety.
Rectify the link…
Y.L. on March 10, 2016 · at 10:20 pm EST/EDT
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/trump-another-manchurian-candidate/
Haven't read the link you provided yet, but what you posted, I think is very possible. If it's true the Koch Brothers are behind Trump this could be just what their up to. Those two are only two of numerous "elites" (hate calling these low life's that as its so contradictory) that manipulate so much that goes on behind the scene. My take is Trump is the front man. He knows he's the front man, but you can bet he doesn't know the half of the plans they have for him.
Rabel
Carmel by the Sea on March 10, 2016 · at 1:43 pm EST/EDT
Different circus
Same clowns.
anodinous on March 10, 2016 · at 2:23 pm EST/EDT
I disagree with your observations regarding Sanders.
Since he begun almost alone his primaries, he grew a grass movement that fills stadiums like a major concert. That grass root movement is the key. Those people are strongly convinced that Bernie is the real deal.
That can be attributed to a consistent historic record, he was always against international trade pacts, wars, etc. People recognise authenticity, whereas Trump sounds fake to all but misogenist racist. (Hillary does not even show up on the scale)
He went from zero to actually challenging Hillary, even if every step of the way the MSM and stablishment always tried to silence or down play him.
Now its impossible for MSM to ignore him. And the added visibility will help him greatly in the next primaries.
I might be doing hopefull thinking, but to me he actually stands a chance of winning the primaries and getting elected. Regarding how long until he takes a bullet and/or if he will be able to do something from the white house, I wont comment.
Just watch this video, listen the final seconds… to me that would settle it alone. https://www.facebook.com/dailykos/videos/10154058044104255/
Tom Garrett on March 10, 2016 · at 8:36 pm EST/EDT
I'm glad to see someone post something sensible about Bernie, an honest, decent and sensible person who has never accepted vested interest money and has battled against the neo-cons from the day he was elected to Congress and thence to the Senate. His predecessor, Jim Jeffords, (a Republican who became an independent) whom I knew well, was also very good. If the system was not rigged, Bernie could, very probably, win the nomination.
No sense repeating what has already been well belabored about Clinton's record.( For those who need further convincing I suggest "Queen of Chaos" by Diana Johnstone). But let's take a look at the political strategy her campaign is riding on.
In 1968 Richard Nixon adopted a "Southern Strategy" designed to take advantage of white southern anger over enforced desegregation and voting rights for blacks. This resulted in a reversal of the traditional political boundaries and the emergence of a solid bloc of Republican voting states in the deep South. It has been decades since most of these states-except (sometimes) in the case of favorite sons-have supported a Democrat for president.
In a curious twist Clinton is following a similar southern strategy to gain the nomination. In 2008 Obama beat her by harvesting the nearly total support of black voters in the south and in northern states with large black minorities.By wrapping herself in Obama's mantle Clinton has managed to draw black pride in the first black president to herself. In South Carolina, for example, the Democratic party is about 50% black. Even in Massachusetts the three largest cities are now above 50% non white. So we have a situation under which if Clinton gains the nomination it will be through the votes of "super delegates" and winning southern and border states that have not voted a Democratic president in years and almost certainly wont in 2016.
Looking at last weeks results we see Bernie winning over 2::1 in Kansas, nearly that in Maine and by over 10% in Nebraska. This mirrors what is almost certain to happen in the entire (largely white) Northwest tier of states. Further, Michigan voter analysis shows that black support (presumably among the young) may be slipping. It was down from 85% in Mass and the South to 70% in Michigan. Results on the 15th will tell us (notably in Illinois and Ohio) whether this is a trend. But I think it is safe to say that when "Hill" is nominated amid nauseating lies and cacophony of the Democratic Convention that Bernie will have received the most votes in states that will or may actually vote Democratic. Once the nomination is fixed the southern strategy will mean nothing in the general election. It will have been a cross wind–in fact an ill wind- that blew no good.
I have to take off. No time for other than a couple Parthian shots. One is that stuff here about Bernie being a "Zionist" controlled by neo-cons, CIA and so on and barely disguised anti-Jewish sentiments have left a sour taste in my mouth. I used to know Washington well; I still try to keep up. The only Jewish Republican congressman, Cantor VA (a nasty fellow) was wiped away in the 2014 election and the senior senators in CA and NY are locked tightly in with the Jewish lobby and the Oligarchy. But former Senators Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, who fought bitterly against against the war, the Patriot Act and the whole slop pail of Clinton, Bush, Obama financial thefts and giveaways, is running again this year and favored by the polls. Alan Grayson, FLA congressman running for Rubio's seat, is a tough, principled guy who blasts the neo-cons every other breath and often co-sponsored with Ron Paul. Boxer CA (retiring this year) and Tammy Baldwin WISC, are– at– least quiet on Israel and have been generally anti-war and always pro-environment. Taken overall Jewish Senators and Reps, Bernie very much among them, are–as things stand in this country,-a quantum leap above average.
My last point, Friends. Don't knock Trump. Win or lose,he's done, and is doing, a great service for all of us, opening the lid on the fetid currents of the so called "American way". If he and Bernie both win (unlikely in both cases) we can, I think, heave a great sigh of relief. But will Trump or (if he pulls ahead) Bernie escape assassination to ascend the steps into the White House, or even live to be nominated?
Best from old Wyoming
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Peter J.Antonsen on March 10, 2016 · at 2:38 pm EST/EDT
Thanks, Saker:
Yes, a Circus by any other name!
Nice accurate analysis. I waited a while on this. The comments were overwhelmingly, excellent.
As for the actual voting on November 8, it is not the votes that count, but Who Counts the Votes.
The Zionist Oligarchs control America, Europe, and most of the planet's inhabitants. They are Omnipotent. They lie, loot, and kill.
Trump may be the least evil of the Ruling Elite's candidates, but he is in their pocket, and has been feeding from their trough all his adult life.
The Only Road:
We in America must -Restore the Republic,- that was overthrown in a Coup d'etat in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
There is no other way, no short cuts, no easy path.
For the Democratic Republics! Those that we must save, and those that we must forge!
Durruti
I generally find Saker to be somewhat misinformed on US internal affairs, but this article was pretty good, before the end where he couldn't resist and point again that he is a socialist. I really suggest you read some abstract relationships between freedom and socialism. They are perfectly mutually exclusive. The very essence of socialism is to replace voluntary (free) human interactions, because none of the socialist institutions or creation and redistribution of wealth are born in society spontaneously.
But back on the article, I agree that Trump is a clown who just randomly happens to be on the right side of a lot of issues, and he definitely is the most peaceful of all candidates, either party. I am no fan though, because of his disdain of free trade and recent support of government intrusion of privacy (vs apple), but I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him.
Hilary is indeed the biggest beech ever born in USA. Malicious. She has so many enemies right now that i would be quite afraid if she becomes president.
Sanders is more electable than you think though. First of all, unfortunately we have more and more socialists in USA every year, and that will destroy this nation. We are losing the young. And please don't tell us we don't know what socialism is. Socialism is the political system of mass murder. Mass murder of its own population in peace times. More than 160 million murdered by socialist governments in 20th century not counting wars. But they young are poor and know no history, and their biggest enticement is confiscating somebody else's wealth. There is nothing more attractive to them. Truth is, that Sanders's success is VERY SCARY to me. It doesn't matter if he loses this year. His rallies involve only young people, and have a lot more energy than Clinton, and I have no doubt that this energy will be harnessed next time around by another candidate, and we will have to fight a true socialist every time from now on.
If you ask me, Socialism should be banned in the constitution on the grounds that it means destruction of freedom and wealth of nations.
Quite the little political economist, aren't you?
You are typical of the neo-liberal consensus that has wrought so much damage around the world. The wealth of nations has already been transferred, lock, stock and barrel to the international kleptocracy that runs the banking system. And it was the repeal of the Glass-Seagall Act – by Clinton – that put the final nail in the 'free trade' you fondly imagine actually exists. The usurious practice of compound interest is the very lifeblood of the parasitic finance system you so extol, yet you call it 'free?'
Thank you for this neat demonstration of wilful ignorance: it will save me the bother of reading your posts in future.
back2freedom on March 11, 2016 · at 4:12 am EST/EDT
I don't know if it's worth replying to this, as your post is not even coherent. Glass Steagall act is about banks being banks and not casinos, and whether the repeal was a bad idea has no relation whatsoever to the free world trade. This is the first absurd part in your post. As for world wealth being locked up, this is even more absurd, enormous amount of wealth is being created in US and China every year, but unfortunately not in Russia. To give you some example to for you to ponder – Apple, Google, Facebook were all created after the repeal of GS act. Each of these companies were created after 1993 and each of them alone is bigger than GDP of the average country in the world.
Eimar has got you pegged. Apple, Google, Facebook all CIA fronts for money laundering. None of those fronts have the $ value that's alleged.
Gosh, you are really outdated…
Absolutely right on the money !
Somebody tell me this is parody. Please.
Jonathan on March 10, 2016 · at 3:35 pm EST/EDT
If Trump is a true nationalist he should be pushing back strongly against the neocon agenda. Destroying other countries at the behest of the Zionist control structure does not serve the interests of the United States. However, from what I've heard from him so far he has bought into the neocon meme that Muslims are the root of all evil.
It's also rather naive to think that Trump cannot be controlled. If a large part of his wealth is in leveraged New York real estate it would not be difficult for the banking oligarchy to ruin him.
PokeTheTruth on March 10, 2016 · at 4:12 pm EST/EDT
What the American people must demand on all federal ballots is the choice for "None of the Above". The election for that office would be declared null and void if the count exceeds the count for all other candidates running for office. New candidates would appear on the ballot who aren't required to have an allegiance to either the Republican "red" team or the Democratic "blue" team. The American people will be motivated to vote should this powerful option of rejecting all candidates becomes available and is a check against the supremacy of political parties since they have become an anathema to good government.
The country also needs to elect the Speaker of the House of Representatives as a separate balloted position. The speaker wields great power and controls the flow of legislation in the House of Representatives and is second in line to the presidency. Such high office demands the people's consent until the rules of the House are changed to remove the speaker's partisan power to move bills through committees and relegates the position to a manager of congressional workflow as it was when the nation was founded.
All congressional offices would be vacant at the conclusion of their respective terms including the sitting President of the United States if no candidate or incumbent exceeds the tally for "None of the Above". This is not a political disaster as some would think since the bureaucracy is still in place to provide administrative duties such as dispensing social security funds, paying Medicare claims, the military, etc., for the budgeted year. America has enough laws, statutes, regulations in effect that a few months (if it takes that long) without a functioning legislature would not be catastrophic for the nation.
The real power of democracy is when the majority of people recognize their individual liberties and freedoms are being sacrificed to political parties and special interest groups so they can continue with their self-serving corruption. The people must have this option to reject the electoral system completely and that can only be peacefully accomplished by counting "None of the Above". We must end the elitists reign of terror and debt servitude by reclaiming our democracy in totality.
Dissolve it, start over!
Ted on March 10, 2016 · at 10:59 pm EST/EDT
I like your thinking outside of the mind prison. The power of rejection would trump (pun intended) the popular power of the top vote getter among the current lineup of clowns, this time, for sure. But to get that through would be to take back the country. So this may have to be a longer term suggestion you offer. Once the country is taken back, the emergency rejection offer reform could be enshrined as a constitutional amendment.
Eimar on March 11, 2016 · at 2:21 am EST/EDT
But why not start a 'Boycott the Vote' movement until you get that all-important 'none-of-the-above' ballot option?
That would get the ball rolling.
You mean like this?
November 8 – America's New Day of Independence
Dear Patriots for Liberty and Freedom:
Two hundred and forty-three years ago today, one of the many historical documents during the years leading up to the American Revolution was the Philadelphia Resolutions published on October 16, 1773. The article heaped scorn on the Tea Act enacted by the British Parliament in May of the same year to bail out the East India Trading Company losses due to the smuggling of cheap foreign tea into the colonies. The duty the company paid to the British government was essentially passed to the colonists as a tax. At least one of the eight points of the Resolutions stand out: "That the duty imposed by Parliament upon tea landed in America is a tax on the Americans, or levying contributions on them without their consent."
On October 14, 2008, the American people were forced to bail out the commercial banks because the government said they were, "Too big to fail"? The similarities between TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) and the Tax Act are nothing more than financial tyranny imposed upon the captured market economy of the nation.
The U.S. Constitution was written to be easily understood by the common man. The original document of seven articles and shortly afterwards included the ten amendment bill of rights, was designed to limit government and share authority between the three branches of the federal republic as well as between Washington, the States and the American people. However what is often missed in the interpretation of this hallowed affirmation of binding legal agreements is where the power originates from and that is boldly stated in the preamble.
When Thomas Jefferson wrote the first draft of the Declaration of Independence he started in the original penmanship style of the day which was to begin writing the first word of the first paragraph in a larger font type, that is the word, "When". Governor Morris, who wrote the preamble to the U.S. Constitution, started writing the introductory statement and followed the prevailing style. However he included not just the first word but the first three words as in "We the People" to emphasize the august body of laws that followed is for the people of each of the separate States united in a union of republican democracy. Therefore it is the American people who have the ultimate authority over the central government and are empowered to act in their own behalf when the center of power no longer acts within the limitations of governance imposed upon it by the Constitution as guardians of the peoples' trust.
Over many decades Washington's politics of perfidy and mendaciousness has removed itself from the rule of laws of equal justice and placed itself above the citizenry. Americans must reclaim their natural rights to govern themselves and create a new fiduciary given only those powers written in the Constitution. The traditional mechanism of validating Washington's authority has been perverted to the point the choices offered to the public only guarantee to powerful men their continued enrichment at the expense of the freedom, wealth and property garnered from the people by force. The time to take action is when the country is solicited to engage in the dance of deception so that federal politicians who seek your permission can pat you on the head and then go back to continue their malevolence, thievery and oppression.
The national cycle of insipid polemics fed to the public like gruel and hardtack sweeps over the population once more. We hear the monotonous elocutions, "But we must win, win, win for democracy and right the ship to save America! We can do it this time, because now it will be different, it really, really will if you'll just trust us. Please, please, we, your faithful serpents (I mean servants) beg you on bended knee and wrap the patriotic flag around our vile (I mean noble) hearts, hear our national anthem play in the background, give us the power to keep the country safe and us employed (and not you) to serve, serve, only you. With tears of regret for past indiscretions rolling down our dirty (I mean pure) faces, oh God, please America, think of what it will mean to the tiny Tim's across our great land if you abandon us for that other wicked side of politics (how true). Give us one, more, chance!!!"
Ha, ha, ha, ha, the clarion of propaganda blares to drag our sorry behinds to the polls and vote, vote, vote, for your favorite red (republican ) team or blue (democrat) team. Sadly the people will do as commanded and after all the votes are tallied and the challenger wins or the incumbent stays in office, the deep state and their political puppets laugh raucously behind our backs at how the rubes keep falling for the same tatty canards. Yes, we are a dumb, dumb people.
Some will utter, "I have to vote, otherwise it will be wasted," as if a vote was a golden coin thrown into the well of principled government to ensure the survival of the nation. Others will state, "They can't be all unethical, one must be a little bit better," and anoint that miscreant over his/her opponent. A small coven believes, "A third party is the answer, yes a third party. Let's conjure one up! It will take years maybe decades but hell, it will be worth the wait, won't it?" So they to, spew their seed down into the earth of false democracy in feeble hope that sprouts of liberty will grow, unaware the ground is too salted with tyranny for freedom to blossom.
So what's left for a kind but ignorant people to do? Shall we raise the cudgel of violence, enact death and the destruction of property against the Washington oppressors as our courageous southern brothers did during the great War of Secession? The shadow government would love that to happen so they can crush the futile rebellion, further consolidate power and like QE I, II, III, etc. initiate Reconstruction Period II. The pernicious crone Madeline Albright would most assuredly rub her hands in delight and reach into her feculent bag of clichés and tell, "We believe it was worth it." Wave goodbye to the republic for a unitary government awaits its thorny crown of betrayal.
There must be another way, God would not abandon us. Perhaps prayer might do the trick. Pray? Pray for what, for the four horsemen to come and bring the apocalypse to bear down upon humanity and destroy the enemies of the Lord? No not yet, not for this.
What then?? What is the answer; how should we proceed to save our beautiful country?
Some obscure Chinese philosopher would say, "If an act continues to bring despotism, the answer is to withdraw from such act." Could that be the solution to stop the wheels of kakistocracy? Let's examine this concept through practical cases.
We all know in a seasonal climate that winter is devoid of growth because it is necessary in preparation for the renewal of life in the following spring. The withered plants that have used up their energy and purpose must be allowed to die as nature intended for they cannot continue. Chauncey Gardiner (wink) the legendary urban cultivator of botanical flora would agree.
Before modern agriculture, farmers used to leave some of their land to lay fallow. They did this to allow those fields to regenerate the natural nutrients in the soil that were depleted from the constant planting of crops. The farmer knew to let the soil be still, to rest for one season for its long term survival. One could say the function of the land was allowed to die temporarily, in preparation for a healthy return back to work.
When a carpenter is called by a homeowner to repair a structure, the tradesman would perform an estimate to evaluate the amount of work to be done to bring the building back into livable condition. Some buildings are too rotted to restore and cannot be saved no matter how much shoring up in material and labor is expended to save it. If he is an honest man, the carpenter would advise the homeowner to tear down the building and rebuild a new one. Effectively the building must die first, before a new home can be started that will serve the needs of the occupants, that is the people.
In an economy, there needs a period of deflation to balance against inflationary periods that run too long in order to reset the value of goods, services and the currency used in exchange. Therefore inflation has to die in order to allow private enterprises to revitalize back to healthy and prosperous markets of commerce.
Four examples have been presented where events require death to come in order for life to survive in the future. Death must also come to the central government too, for its core has decayed and cankerous gangrene infects the blood of its purveyors. It has to perish in order to save what is left of our freedoms and liberties and deny the dystopian vision that Eric Blair warned his readers about.
I am one of millions of Americans who are eligible to vote in the presidential election on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. I am only one person but I can personally act to shake the foundation of the national government not seen since the formidable years of our great nation. I can do it very easily without violence, without armed conflict, without performing Herculean feats of political hoopla or through the use of previously unknown secrets of spiritual incantation to command at my will.
At first blush my action will be criticized as insignificant, impractical to achieve any meaningful results and even condemned as laughable. But I am undeterred for I know the real power my act can accomplish as well as others who joined in common resolution, know the congress, the presidency and the federal judiciary are completely and utterly corrupt and cannot be changed by conventional means.
Gravity is said to be a weak force in nature and that is true. However in relation to a large massive body it keeps man grounded and spaceships from ascending into the heavens without the use of powerful chemical rockets to break free of earth's gravitational pull. How easy is it though, for man to pick up his foot and put it down ahead of himself foot by foot, yard by yard, mile by mile until he walks across a great distance. He turns and looks back and says, "Look how far I've traveled, for I started with one small step."
One simple performance is all I need to do to stop these treasonous men, to do my part to end the murder of innocent people abroad who have never threatened me, my family, friends, neighbors and most likely have not harmed you as well, for they do not know you as you do not know them, face to face. On election day when the polls open across our great country I will behave with full conscience. It will be swift yet appear not to be anything at all. Like gravity its real power can only be realized when it is part of a larger body. In this case a gathering of the electorate is needed to have the desired effect.
My fellow American, will you join me and become part of the movement to multiply the power to stop the killing in foreign wars, end the theft imposed by monetary inflation, cease the strangulation and manipulation of free markets, curtail the government indoctrination of our children and halt the constant and relentless attack of fear mongering to control all who dare to enjoy their privacy or take a breath of freedom?
It won't be hard to do, require any special skill, equipment, the expenditure of monies or even time. All you have to do is this one simple act.
Don't vote on November 8
That's it, that's all we have to do. I said it was simple and I was true to my word. No matter how engorged the leviathan of government becomes they need our consent to legitimize their authority. Don't give it to them. Stay home and reclaim your God given rights of liberty from the masters of evil. Let the system die an ignominious death. We will save the lives of countless Arabs, Persians, Russians and Chinese as well as America's youth if we shut off the elitists' power. We accomplish this by not participating in the electoral system they abuse to continue their reign of terror around the planet.
The greatest power of democracy is the right to abstain, for such a choice demands the full measure of attention of those in authority who witness the will of the people. Until elections allow the option of "None of the Above" on a ballot to be counted, we must take it upon ourselves to pull back from the cliff of indebted poverty and totalitarianism.
Like gravity, weak to begin but grows exponentially in strength as more mass is added, so must we act by not voting, to save our country and the world from Washington's tyranny and repression. We cannot change what is immutable, we cannot extend our grasp to hope, to rationalize, to plea, to pray for deliverance from the doom merchants. No proxy can do it for us, we have to do it ourselves.
You know the phrase, "land of the free and the home of the brave"? Let's give real meaning to those words. Let us turn them into deeds, to steadfast our freedoms. Withholding your consent is a national vote of, "No Confidence" or "None of the Above". On November 8th, I declare my personal day of independence by abstinence. I hope you will too.
I will be sending this out on October 16 to a select group of bloggers. Hopefully one or more of them will post my thoughts to their readers.
All I can say is – wow! Pokethetruth.
I just fear the ADD crew won't read it,so maybe a condensed version for them wouldn't amiss..
Too bad your name isn't on the ballot..:)
"Thomas Jefferson…our great nation…stop the killing in foreign wars…end the theft…masters of evil…"
Thomas Jefferson was a scumbag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
"Historian Bernard Sheehan argues that Jefferson believed assimilation was best for Native Americans; second best was removal to the west. He felt the worst outcome of the cultural and resources conflict between European Americans and Native Americans would be their attacking the whites.[157] Jefferson told his Secretary of War, General Henry Dearborn (Indian affairs were then under the War Department): "if we are constrained to lift the hatchet against any tribe, we will never lay it down until that tribe is is exterminated or driven beyond the Mississippi." [160] Miller agrees that Jefferson believed that natives should assimilate to American customs and agriculture. Historians such as Peter S. Onuf and Merrill D. Peterson argue that Jefferson's actual Indian policies did little to promote assimilation and were a pretext to seize lands;[161]"
Anonymous is right that the founders were flawed men and not saints, but that doesn't detract from Poke The Truth's Withdraw Our Consent and Expose The Illegitimate Rule of the Corrupt Elites proposal.
Jefferson was an impassioned wordsmith and hypocrite. His writing skills were put to decent use, and initially, his hypocrisy was not extremely damaging. Gouverneur Morris was of much better moral character, but to my knowledge he was never a governor, and the first syllable of his first name is properly pronounced with a long U sound.
Enough quibbling!! I second Eimar's sentiment. By popular demand, weaken the consent through abstinence, by tens of millions of votes until this phase of mind control by the elites is killed and buried. RIP and eternal ignominy. I like it.
And then let there be a "new birth of freedom" (last 44 words of the Gettysberg Address are: "that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." ) Except this time enshrine the memory of those Native Americans of old that Thomas Jefferson spat on and Andrew Jackson murdered as well as millions peoples in foreign lands more recently killed by our sinful rulers, so that their millions of lives are respected and never forgotten either, in a pledge of resolve to accomplish a cessation of imperial sin and actual national atonement.
"…but that doesn't detract from Poke The Truth's Withdraw Our Consent and Expose The Illegitimate Rule of the Corrupt Elites proposal."
There is little information provided by comment on what I agree with.
"I second Eimar's sentiment."
In this case absolutely concur – although it is probably futile.
The various lottery draws throughout the World designed by Elite's and the response of the populations exemplify that the majority of humanity are probably borderline psycopaths themsleves (particularly on the "meanness" measure of the Triarchic model). Given a clear choice they would rather be one of the elite.
so-called "election" is a mechanism by which the masses get "invested" in a false and propagandist belief that they themselves have at least some power and control over the State and its Policies. They do not. Yale study confirms this fact.
Senate decides – the "votes" mean nothing.
Vote for "lesser evil" is vote for evil, an investment in and consent to evil. It is bad to approve of evil, obviously.
Local elections can matter…
Vote for the good or leave the ballot blank – and don't believe in fairy-tales.
Voting puts you on the jury roll. This makes opportunities to do good…in a small way.
Small, but significant to the poor schmuck on trial…
Some on Crosstalk (RT) support Trumpster as the man whom they expect will do the most damage to the US – an outcome they desire.
Woody Guthrie wrote a song about Trump's father – also an evil, he says. Look that up. Apple falls near the tree, they say.
Pax, Brothers
alan on March 10, 2016 · at 6:46 pm EST/EDT
Correct! Fact is voting for the "lesser evil" may only lead to "lesser resistance" to bad policies!!!!
Lumi on March 10, 2016 · at 4:28 pm EST/EDT
Without closely following the electoral comedy in the USA, if I were American I'd definitely vote for Trump, seeing that the Zionist MSM Lügenpresse in Germany is as adamantly opposed to Trump as they were in favour of Obama eight years ago.
Speaking of which, he seems to have disappointed the Zionists as they seem very unhappy with him. Too bad Obama doesn't seem to have more power.
Trump promised to bring back waterboarding … and other things, too … I hope it'll be applied to the Zionist Neocons.
At this point in time all I can do is recommend you all seeing the movie "Il Gatopardo" whose subtitle will be remembered forever as " to change something so that everything remains the same".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb0IlSBFVt0
Try to get it in a video club, I could not find an English version or an English subtitled one available. The Spanish version has been deleted because of a copyright issue.
And at this point in time, I recommend no less the essential "Novecento", to remember what the real face of Fascism looks like, especially for Americans you who never tasted its "special" savour, since in Europe we know it well……
"Novecento. Escena de los titiriteros"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVQxax_tR_U
"Novecento" in full, in 4 parts, in Spanish ( I recommend you try to find it inEnglish or with English subtitles ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjm1zIbIQ5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFSj6AlhAJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdx4T5mYhdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_bHFNCA78
Sanjin on March 10, 2016 · at 4:51 pm EST/EDT
isn't strange for US to have honest president? i mean, US is destroying every non-compatible country randomly except vassals (allies) for decades. let be honest, apart american people who are contributing to civilization, US as state is acting like bandit country. why shoud bandit country have honest president. it is not realistic and unnatural. the right president of US can be only Hellary (thank You S. Padraig, i like "Hellary"). she would be right person on right place representing actual american policy. of course, she can be very dangerous. but, to who?
Ron on March 10, 2016 · at 5:30 pm EST/EDT
Wait a minute! Your arguments are not consistent. Earlier you use the metaphor of puppets and puppeteers to describe the elections, but you end up by regarding each of the candidates as in control of POTUS if elected. You especially worry about Hillary and issue a warning about how dangerous Hillary would be if elected. So, is Hillary a puppeteer? I think you need more time to study the election circus to gain a better understanding of it. I think your first hunch was correct about Donald Trump. "My first hunch was that Trump was "created" to scare people into voting for Hillary." And as for Sanders, he was only entered in the Democratic Party primaries to lure in the hopey-changey young generation who will end up voting for Hillary in order to keep Trump out.
This setup is perfect for their candidate of choice, their puppet Hillary, to be elected. She has been groomed for this job for years because American people are suckers for identity politics. Obama was celebrated at the first African-American to reach this office (even though he was mostly raised by a white banker grandmother), and now they have a first woman president. How grand is that!
I think you are right about Trump in that he is a bit of a loose cannon that the puppeteers would not be able to control as well as they would like. But that is no problem for the puppeteers, the ruling class directorate. They would simply have him assassinated and make it look like it was an accident, illness, or a victim of some lone terrorist. They did this to the Kennedy brothers.
A good point. The answer to your question is that the world is not so black and white as people like to suppose. It's often asserted that politicians such as Putin, say, or Obama, are completely controlled. In fact, there are degrees of compliance. True, anything less than full compliance is considered unacceptable to the international oligarchy. But total control is very difficult to maintain for long. Certain individuals will only go so far. Others, such as Hillary, are only too eager to please.
By the way, it's not necessary to assassinate Trump. If a large part of this wealth is in leveraged New York real estate, the banking oligarchy can ruin him at will.
Wim on March 10, 2016 · at 5:51 pm EST/EDT
"While the Occupy Wall Street supporters might like him (especially if he teams up with Tulsi Gabbard), the "Socialist" stigma makes the man unelectable in a viscerally anti-Socialist USA (especially since most Americans have no idea whatsoever of what Socialism is all about)."
I beg to disagree on this one. Straw polls have consistently show that Sanders would do better than Clinton both against Trump and against Cruz.
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/24/with-trump-looming-should-dems-take-a-huge-electability-gamble-by-nominating-hillary-clinton/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/257704-why-sanders-defeats-trump-but-trump-defeats-clinton
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both
LOL, would be an interesting match: the Billionaire vs the Communist!
SG on March 10, 2016 · at 5:51 pm EST/EDT
To me, Trump represents a real deviation from the script of the elites. I see evidence in this in the all-out assault by the media both left and right. It really looks like a daily "hour of hate" whenever the guy is brought up on TV or social media. I believe the establishment is scared of Trump, primarily because he is self-funded.
yes, Saker, I share your sentiments. Hillary is obviously the worst, but how much "better" will a President Trump be is just as questionable. While it's true that the neocon gang seems to want no part of him to be the President, it's just as likely that if he becomes President, in order that he "understands the world is at stake", he'll be immediately surrounded by all the so called "military and security experts" that are really little different. I am convinced it's more like a choice between "war", "more war", and "all out war". For any country that is on the other end of any of the 3 alternatives, it will not be pretty.
The particular stooge may be significant in the immediate sense, but the writing's on the wall for any Daniel to read… Empire's in collapse…elites terrorized in delusions and fear, blinded.
Trumpster might surrender and preserve the State in a limited, pragmatic, form. Ivan offers this…at a cost.
But the fellas that decide these things may decide on a parade in Dallas…a "correction", as Bush 41 put it…
Giggles is far more aggressive and violent.
And recall too that the reality is that WW3 is well underway – Russian and other geopolitical experts, some anyway, opine that the war, W3, began with the attack on Slavic space began at Kiev, though the argument can be made that it began with the destruction of Yugoslavia… Whatever the details about the start-date may be, the level of violence and cruelty, dispossession of peoples, illegalities, and poverty indicates a situation worse already than 1943… The anointed el presidente will have few options, none good, and stand under the delusional control of sociopathic men…
Hope is the last to die, they say. There's still hope, but that's about it…
Fidelios Automata on March 10, 2016 · at 8:02 pm EST/EDT
Saker, I'd like to add the following to your excellent analysis:
If Trump is elected, the elite will try to provoke minorities to revolt against his alleged "racism." This will cause whites (and most likely Asians as well) to rally to his defense, bringing forth the specter of civil war.
If Hillary is elected, civil war is even more likely. The elites do not understand the deep hatred in the conservative middle classes (myself included) for that corrupt harpy.
Sounds like either way, it will be an "interesting" 2017.
Guest on March 10, 2016 · at 8:50 pm EST/EDT
Never say never. There have been elections that brought in significant change: Hitler in 1930s, the Communists in Czechoslovakia in 1948, and Chavez in Venezuela are just a few examples. Was not Putin elected? Is Putin different than Yeltsin?
Whenever the man changes they say it was "an election", so Comrade Guest has presented us with a tautology. Change happens. Sometimes the man makes good, sometimes bad, but it is mostly situational – a matter of options. What tasty little operation is out of options just now?
Yes, and the sun rises in the East, sets in the West, every day! Therefore the rising sun brought great change, somewhere…
This is known as the Post Hoc Fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
Elections have little or nothing to do with causing change. They generally create "consent", not change. This is because the people have little or no political power.
kinterra on March 10, 2016 · at 9:06 pm EST/EDT
Perhaps this is the place to suggest the idea that the election circus is merely a set up for a rogue act such as:
Trump gains momentum and it looks like he might take the throne. Would not the neoliberal left freak out, and support a very radical act of opposition? Obama has already said "Trump will not be President." Would all the 2008 frenzy of 'yes we can' rear up again… This might be the Trump card.
Have to also consider that the day before super Tuesday the NYT ran a huge spread about Hitlary's role in Libya. I question the timing of this, believing that no publicity that big happens without a motive? Could she be appointed candidate, then formally accused of the crime and election then disqualified.
I am a long time reader, and first time poster. A little intimidated by all the brilliance I read here. I am curious how the readership is considering the possibility of no election at all.
Is there an arch big enough for the victory parade ego?
How about a super-sized "Arc de Triomphe" somewhere in NY (or Vegas or wherever) called "Arch de TRiUMPh"?
Richard Steven Hack on March 10, 2016 · at 9:06 pm EST/EDT
The problem is: A Trump nomination guarantees a Clinton win.
Which is why the Republican National Committee will make sure Trump doesn't get the nomination, even if they have to assassinate him.
Likely outcome is a brokered Republican convention and someone like Mitt Romney gets the nomination as a "white knight" to "save the Republican party from Trump." Which means make sure the US elites don't have to deal with a "loose cannon."
All the "Trump hysteria" is a complete waste of time for everyone.
Unfortunately, the evil war-mongering beyatch Clinton is going to be President – unless somehow she melts down and Sanders gets the nod. which is unlikely. Sanders is an "outsider", too, and he'll never get the nod, either, just like Trump.
Your guarantee is useless, and silly, unless of course your confident declaration is based on a seriously talented crystal ball gazing background, giving you the extraordinary capacity to be able to accurately foretell the future.
Trump vs Hillary would pit the Donald vs the she thing, she with a prodigious capacity to reel off lie after lie and inanity after inanity, and with a bursting open cesspool-closet full of depravities, crimes and incompetence, providing many a target for the Donald. Now given the potential for black box voting commandeered by shadowy figures to decide elections, and the potential for bought and intimidated delegates to dance to their puppet masters tunes, pretty well any American election is a crap shoot. Nothing is guaranteed. But let the show begin!
Kent on March 10, 2016 · at 9:29 pm EST/EDT
Many interesting views and comment's on this one. Most of what I might have contributed in words have allready been said by otherss.
Anyway, I do prefer to make visual comments when possible.
This one speaks volumes, doesn't it??
http://fotovision.no/GLP2/Hillary_Clinton_Faces_Of_Evil_Zombie.jpg
The other candidate:
http://fotovision.no/GLP2/Donald_Trump_Faces_Of_Stupid02.jpg
aaaa on March 10, 2016 · at 9:51 pm EST/EDT
Sorry for being OT but I am just going to say that I am DONE with MOA. I keep getting my posts deleted in spite of the fact that everything I've ever posted there was non-trolling in nature. To hell with sloppy and power-tripping moderators
Jim Jatras on March 10, 2016 · at 10:25 pm EST/EDT
As a regular reader of The Saker (and frequent guest on RT), I would only add that this is the first time in a long time I've felt there's a chance of breaking the ruling Oligarchy. (Or at least that the Deep State machine might throw a track). Here's my two kopecks below (original text with helpful links, here: http://www.repealfatca.com/downloads/thejimgram/JIMgram_No_7_Trump.pdf :
I Stand with America. I Stand with Trump.
An Endorsement from 'the Man You've Never Heard Of'
Jim Jatras
In part because no one else in American history had ever done so, in September of last year I announced my interest in and availability for my party's vice presidential nomination. I so informed each GOP presidential candidate by letter and Twitter. ABC News promptly dubbed me "the Man You've Never Heard Of Who Desperately Wants to Be Vice President." (I'd have preferred "diligently" to "desperately," but why quibble.)
I was content to let my offer lie on the table pending the Republican Convention and the eventual presidential nominee's selection of a running mate, who I assumed almost certainly would be someone other than my humble but eminently qualified self. Despite repeated media inquiries, I saw no need to state a preference for any of the contenders for the top office.
Things have changed. As of this moment, I formally announce my endorsement of Donald John Trump for President of the United States.
What has prompted this less than earth-shattering decision? Essentially, two factors:
•	First, with increasing urgency good friends have been insisting to me that Donald Trump is a disaster for the country and for the Republican Party. He's a liberal Democrat only pretending to be a conservative. He's an avatar of nativism, racism, and hatred. He's a "plant" by the Clintons to throw the election to Hillary. He's "unpresidential," he's crude, and he's a misogynist. He's an egomaniacal con man and a lousy businessman who hates old ladies.
•	Second, and more importantly, my decision to endorse Mr. Trump is prompted by the unleashing of what appears to be the most formidable defamation campaign in American history. Fueled to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and keynoted by failed presidential candidate Mitt Romney (who reportedly was scared away from the 2016 race by the fearsome ¡Jeb! Bush), the #NeverTrump jihad recites the full litany of charges. But central is the claim that if Trump is the nominee, he'll not only lose in a landslide to Hillary Clinton but drag the GOP "brand" down to catastrophic defeat, costing the Grand Old Party the Senate, the House, governorships, state legislatures, and local offices down to sheriff and dogcatcher.
I don't imagine the voice of one near-unknown can counter such a massive effort. At the same time, maintaining neutrality could be construed as concurrence or even complicity.
It's time to choose a side. I stand with America. I stand with Trump.
I will not here pick through the hail of darts furiously being flung Trump-wards, which on their merits I find mostly though not entirely unconvincing. Suffice it to say that with regard to the most potent accusation – that Trump's nomination means electoral disaster for Republicans – the Trumpophobes do not really talk or behave as though they believe their own propaganda. As I wrote two months ago, in an analysis even more relevant now than it was then:
" . . . the Establishment's real worry is not that Trump might lose to Hillary. What terrifies them is that he might win. Make no mistake: most of those warning of Trump's adverse impact on Republican prospects would prefer a President Hillary Rodham Clinton and are prepared to help achieve that outcome."
Why? Primarily, it's not Trump's personal qualities, it's his positions on three related issues where both the GOP and the Democratic establishments have stood foursquare against the interests of the American people, as I identified in January: immigration, trade, and war:
"Trump has stepped over the no-go line in each of these three areas. He has said Crimea is none of our concern (let the Europeans deal with it) and that Russia's bombing the Islamic State is just fine. His heresies on immigration need no comment. He denounces trade agreements with Mexico and China as the fruit of American negotiators' ineptitude; the author of The Art of the Deal insists that he could do a better job."
But because a broad swath of the American people clearly is enthusiastically for Trump, his opponents sense they can't beat him on issues. They have to rely on personal smears and electoral trickery.
Let's remember that early in the nominating process, when GOP insiders considered Trump a kind of joke, the party insisted he sign the no-independent-run pledge for fear he'd run as spoiler after he inevitably fizzled. Now that he's not fizzling and looks increasingly likely to take the nomination (notwithstanding the usual blather about a brokered Convention), it's the paladins of Beltway Conservatism threatening to go "Dixicrat" with some rump-GOP, faux conservative alternative like Romney (or even more absurdly, #DraftCondi Rice) if Trump takes the official nomination in Cleveland. They themselves, Trump's critics, are the ones contemplating splitting the Republican party on purpose, and serving the election up on a platter to Hillary. And despite the increasing likelihood that Trump will garner the Republican nomination, they continue to savage him, doing Hillary's work for her.
Does that sound like the strategy of people afraid that Trump will lose?
No, they are rightly afraid that Trump's possible victory as a populist-nationalist Tribune of the Plebs, with his deviationism on immigration, trade, and war, would constitute an existential threat to their control over the party and (in condominium with the Democrats) the country, as well as debunking their phony "conservatism" that conserves nothing. For many of the Brahmins of the Stupid Party, President Hillary Clinton would be a hundred times more palatable.
The decline of America's moral and constitutional integrity is less a matter of narrowly-defined "conservatism" than a function of the fact that we are losing even our semblance of representative self-government by a free people who, whatever our diverse ethnic, racial, or religious origins, share the core values and loyalties of the historic American nation. As Laura Ingraham recently observed:
"Yes, there will be times when the populists disappoint pure conservatives. But populists and pure conservatives each have the same basic goal – a great country where the average person has a chance at a better life. By contrast, the Establishment already has what it wants and will do everything it can to maintain the status quo. Ted Cruz and his supporters have to make their own decision, but in the long run they need a major shakeup in the GOP Establishment to have a chance of seeing their ideas become law. Rubio (and his donors) have no intention of making such a change. In fact, they will support policies – open borders, new trade deals, more government debt – that will make any such change much harder to achieve."
For social conservatives in particular, it's time to recognize the decades-long come-on by the GOP and "Conservatism, Inc." for the scam it is: "Vote for us, we'll get a majority in Congress, we'll take the White House, we'll appoint good 'strict constructionist' Justices [like Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Sandra Day O'Connor … well, you get the picture] and return decency to America." Uh-huh. That's been our Plan A, and we see how well it's worked out. It won't get better as our country is abolished out from under us. As one Roman Catholic writer observes ("Yes, Catholics Can Vote For Trump"):
"No other candidate is serious about the Mexican-Muslim invasion. Trump is the only candidate promising to do something about it. Either Trump gets elected, or the bishops will destroy the pro-life movement with all their new pro-abortion voters."
The alternative to a populist revolution – and with it at least the hope of a conservative social restoration – is continuing down the path set by the duopoly of the Democrats (no comment needed) and the GOP open borders donor class (ditto). For a look into a non-Trump future, consider what Illinois Congressman Luis Gutiérrez calls a "new American political coalition," a self-selected ruling class that posits its interests and values against those of the historic Christian (mainly Protestant), English-speaking American nation, which will be consigned to the status of a permanent disenfranchised, vilified minority:
" . . . a million Latinos turn 18 every year in the United States of America. And . . . they're all American citizens of the United States. And here's what happens: they become the basis of the new American political coalition. That is young people, that is Latinos, that is immigrants, it's African Americans, it's Asians, it's gay people, it's people that care about the economy [translation: "Gimme free stuff"], and it's people that care about the environment [translation: carbon cultists] . . . . look: you're never going to take the White House with this kind of politics ever again because there's a new American politics."
In a word, it's Balkanization, a coalition of vested group entitlements, spearheaded by recent immigrants and their "anchor baby" descendants who reject assimilation to a common American identity and in fact define themselves in opposition to it. It's the political equivalent of American workers' training their foreign replacements for their own jobs. Gutiérrez is telling us: a new, substitute America is here – another people – ready to take power. As Jacob Heilbrunn cited Bertolt Brecht's poetic mockery (in the context of the 1953 East Berlin uprising):
"The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?"
Thus, what is really at stake is whether our country will irrevocably cease to be a res publica – the property of a self-aware, sovereign citizenry. If the historic America is not to be "dissolved" and transformed into Gutiérrez-land, the power of the bipartisan "oligarchy" (as Senator Jeff Sessions, a Trump supporter, calls it) or of the "Deep State" (as author Mike Lofgren, not a Trump supporter, calls it) must be broken. On the Democratic side, Sanders is trying to do that (in his own flawed way, but weighed down by the required idols of the Left, from #BlackLivesMatter to "sanctuary cities" to a blank check for abortion) but is unlikely to succeed. Hillary, the corrupt Picture of Dorian Gray face of the Democratic faction of the oligarchy, maintains a commanding lead. Trump's prospects in the GOP are better, perhaps much better.
Can we trust Trump? Will he build his wall and secure our borders? Renovate our deteriorating infrastructure? Restore our manufacturing base? Audit the Federal Reserve and defenestrate the banksters? Restore the GOP's long-lost reputation (now hardly remembered by anyone) as the "Peace Party" that got us out of wars the Democrats started? Sign a bill to defund Planned Parenthood, as long as they continue to perform abortions (which they will)? Exclude actual or potential Islamic terrorists? Dump our freeloading so-called "allies"? Cease the PC trashing of every tradition in which Americans once took pride? Reunite a nation sundered by Barack Obama and the GOP mandarins, with their divide et impera Punch and Judy show of class and racial discord?
Can Trump really "Make America Great Again"? Or at least slow our decline and give our country another chance?
I don't know. But I do know that none of the more mannerly politicians served up by the oligarchy will.
"Trust not in princes . . ." (Ps. 146:3) Neither Trump nor any other politician should be accepted on blind faith. Who really can say if Trump can win or if he does how he would govern. Who can say what's really in his mind and heart or if, in God's eyes, he's a good man or a bad one. But given the dire warning from the likes of Romney, I like the odds with Trump better than with any of the available alternatives. When the character of his enemies is considered – particularly Warfare State neoconservatives (some of whom at least have the honesty to defect openly to Hillary) – my willingness to gamble on him only increases.
Finally, a warning. As Stalin observed: "Death solves all problems. No man, no problem." Trump, who for many powerful people is quite a problem indeed, has been recklessly compared to Jean-Marie Le Pen, Silvio Berlusconi, Vladimir Putin – even to Hitler and Mussolini. In an American context, to Andrew Jackson, Huey Long, and George Wallace. Let's note that each of those three Americans was the target of assassination. Jackson survived by a failure of his attacker's pistols, hailed by some as miraculous. "The Kingfish" was killed. Wallace was crippled for life.
If you think there is any length to which Trump's enemies will not go, think again.
Jim Jatras, [email him] is a former US diplomat and foreign policy adviser to the Senate GOP leadership. He currently is the only announced prospect for the Republican vice presidential nomination. He comments on financial and foreign policy topics and on U.S. politics in his publication TheJIM!gram.
MY PLEDGE: Whether or not am selected for the Republican Vice Presidential nomination and am privileged to assume that august post in January 2017, I will remain committed to the core principles I announced in September 2015, which I hope will be furthered under a Trump presidency: "I am pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, pro-immigration control, anti-war, pro-privacy, pro-tax reform, anti-phony 'free trade' deals. We need to feel like Americans again!"
mayhem on March 11, 2016 · at 12:31 am EST/EDT
I'm pro banning folks who just copy and paste large amounts of text instead of just a paragraph and then a link.
Larchmonter445 on March 10, 2016 · at 11:58 pm EST/EDT
I know I was the first to bring the name Trump to the Vineyard.
He is a huge danger to the NWO and the Liberal-Neo-con nexus that loves war, regime change and chaos.
I won't go into a long defense. Saker knows in the US, funny stuff happens on the way to the White House. Trump is facing every hazard. His secret service detail is probably as large as Obama's. They have cancelled one of his stadium rallies and moved it inside because of death threats. His plane was forced to land early because of "engine issues". They detour his vehicle caravan, changing routes.
He is a nationalist who wants to pull the US homeward. He'll join Russia against ISIS.
Everything will be on the negotiating table if he is elected. It will be a great opportunity to put NATO back in the barracks of Western Europe.
For those who do meditation or prayer, think of Trump and the USA. The people are awake and learning what the word hegemon means and how they have been given the blame and the bill for the hell the US has dealt to the rest of the world. Trump has exposed most of it. But evil forces are working to stop him dead.
"Everything will be on the negotiating table if he is elected." — yes, the end of American self-assumed 'Exceptionalism' and a return to sane peer-2-peer negotiation models etc.
Trump is the political-ecomomy's exorcist: that's why neocon establishment heads are spinning vomit.
Which reminds me of The Picture of Dorian Gray, the rotten US Political Establishment and war criminal Hillary Clinton's "painting in the attic" — http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af360/dipsacord0/THE%20EXORCIST/te-exorcist.jpg
Ali on March 11, 2016 · at 12:05 pm EST/EDT
Thank you Larchmonter445, for that and also your post regarding the order of battle regarding the use of nuclear weapons. I started to look into Trump when you first mentioned that Trump will bomb the **** out of ISIS together with Russia if he becomes president. The more I see Trump, without any jealousy-turned-into-hate, the more I see the potential of America finally pursuing sensible foreign policies. Just imagine that: sensible foreign policies! How much a huge difference would that make? How much lives would that spare?
I was kind of rebuked for suggesting that Trump might become the Putin of America. Of course Trump is not Putin. But how much good did Putin do for Russia and simultaneously for the world when he took the helm and started cleaning out the rats and placing people of sense and talent into positions of power? Trump's style will be different but it will be not pale in comparison to Putin if he delivers.
Remember folks, Trump is 69 years old and ain't getting younger. And Putin wont live forever too. It seems that we are seeing an extremely rare and valuable potential alignment of Russia and America.
To me, Trump is not the lesser of the evil. He is the lesser of the good. And when he clears out the rats so that more good talents get into positions of power… A Putin and Trump tag-team in the international arena doing basically the same thing.
Its now or never.
TooLegit2Quit on March 12, 2016 · at 11:11 pm EST/EDT
@ Ali:
"The more I see Trump, without any jealousy-turned-into-hate, the more I see the potential of America finally pursuing sensible foreign policies. Just imagine that: sensible foreign policies! How much a huge difference would that make? How much lives would that spare?"
^Yup. That pretty much sums it up.
I've said on this blog weeks ago that Sanders sounds good, but only on US domestic issues, while Trump looked better than all of them on foreign policy. For all of us residing outside the US, backing Trump is no brainer, and to be perfectly honest; I can't care less if he wrecks America domestically, so long he leaves the rest of the world well alone. I can live with that!
Trouble is… is he gonna keep his word and follow through or be co-opted like Corbyn did almost as soon as he was elected as a party leader?
It's the million dollar question I suppose… but unless we can read minds, or foretell the future accurately, Trump is the only one who seems not to be hell-bent on starting WWIII, while the others, particularly Clinton, is a dead certain that's what they're after.
One thing peeps don't give Trump enough credit for is that he got rid of Jeb Bush. Do you guys know how huge that was? I felt like celebrating [just like when Crimea got reunited with Russia] when I heard he dropped off. As I always say… our side don't often have reasons to celebrate, but that was one of those rare occasions. And I know, I know… the vampire Bush Dynasty can still come back to life and bite us all in the ass. But never the less, the fact that he got beaten, and so early on, was something most political analysts didn't see coming.
Che on March 11, 2016 · at 12:37 am EST/EDT
As far as making it interesting Sanders over Trump, let's talk Socialism and taxing the rich. The Saker here counts him out, this is 3/10. My vote just helped him take Michigan and should help take him to the convention with things undecided. that provides time to let the FBI indict, odds at least 50/50, just listened to an expert opinion say they don't grant immunity to someone unless they plan to indict. So there is that, then there is the super delegates, at the convention Hillary, if she is there, could look pretty lame, sky high negative likability ratings and principled Bernie supporters will mutiny, therefore Bernie starts looking like the more electable one, with likely coattails that Hillary wouldn't have. So, till a shot, fat lady hasn't sung the last chorus yet.
Who more qualified to speak on The Donald than his mom?
This 'face swap' seems to be the latest fad, now any home pc & internet can do more detailed video editing & spoofing than multi million studios just 20 years ago.
Should be seeing more of these pair-ups as we go down the stretch here 2016:
Hitlary vs The Donald;
Colonel Sanders vs The Cuban;
Such a shame McCain not running now as he was 2008–would love to see him & Hitlary switched.
Donald Trump's Mom (Face Swap)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uchaDmRQdA
Harry_Red on March 11, 2016 · at 1:16 am EST/EDT
It does not matter who becomes president, the US is not controlled by the president.
The US is controlled by banks and other organizations who work together with the executive branch consisting of:
– The executive office of the president (EOP), overseen by the White House Chief of Staff
– The appointed officers of the cabinet
– The United States federal executive departments (interior, defense, state, treasury, home land security, justice, etc.) and its numerous officers and officials.
The Zionist and Neo-conservatives (regardless of their party affiliations) have infiltrated all branches of government and have partly or full control of these branches of the US government regardless of who becomes president.
They have also infiltrated the Senate and the US house of representatives and have infiltrated or have associates and connections with the banking sector, academia, think-tanks, research institutes, the military, defense industry, major companies, the media, etc.
They fund each-other and hire one another in the leadership and management positions of all these organizations. They can be democrats, republicans or independents.
They operate above the law and above party politics.
All of them operate for their own individual and family interests, with some of them consciously working for greater goals for example in the name of Zionism and Israel.
They cannot be defeated by voting or via any so called democratic nonsense. There numbers and control is increasing each year in relation to the increasing economic and societal decay of the US people.
It is a complicated web of corrupt people who give themselves all kinds of names (conservatives, liberals, libertarians, whatever). The rest of the US society, whether they are part of the 1% or 99% are just slaves.
The US system will either self implode (economic collapse or nuclear confronting other super-powers) or it will be lead to collapse by outside forces wishing to replace the United States as the next ruling state of the world. Who these people will be, how will they do it and when, only God knows.
My sentiments exactly and it is indeed a shame to see so many commenters on here falling once again for the theatre. How did "hope and change" Obama work out for these people? after all the song and dance and being feted the world over when he was running ? The same thing is happening all over but the sheeple are too brainwashed to see it. The American administration and all western governments have been hijacked by a global criminal cartel that would make the Gambino family look like boy scouts.
The only way any change is going to come to America is if America were to suffer a military defeat and its military industrial complex is completely dismantled and the psychopaths brought to justice. Either that or to a lesser degree the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency.
oldnik007 on March 11, 2016 · at 11:51 pm EST/EDT
not to rain on your parade BUT
i don't remember any "opposition/death threats/secret meetings"
and the like to stop obomba.
most were congregating in tears as he 'walked' part of the way
down the mall or whatever that avenue is called.
… and 99% of the 1% believe the slaves are revolting!
Ann on March 11, 2016 · at 1:25 am EST/EDT
Hi Saker, yeah I'm in agreement with you for sure…if it is Trump for president we actually have to await the future to see what's up …. with Hillary its a done deal…we know that there will be nuclear war in the next couple of years…
Maybe Trump is the Gods' chessman
Dom on March 11, 2016 · at 2:02 am EST/EDT
If voting mattered, they would not let you do it
The Trump movie is just a big budget remake of the Australian movie – King Clive. No doubt being the US, it will have the obligatory shootout, sex scenes and big budget special effects.
The US culture which has become an ideology/religion of extreme capitalism/privatisation can only change through massive, most likely extremely violent upheaval.
Perhaps the Trump brand can trigger this. He seems to be the only lottery in town. As they say, if you're not in it, you can't win it.
USA. Offspring of Protestant Britannia who rebelled at an early age to go off on its own, sewing its wild oats and adding French, Spanish, Russian territories to its own through fair means and foul.
The country of migrants, the melting pot, though still ruled by the offspring of Britannia.
Moved back into the family and become the patriarch after the battle of Midway and the Coral sea. (Mum lost control of things when those four eyed Nips sunk Britannia's show of force off Malaya and took Singapore in a sneaky move).
Another sibling was born when Mum and the offspring set up a country for Gods chosen people of the old testament of the Protestant Bible, the Israelites.
So five eyes and Israel.
But back to the current leader of five eyes and Israel, the US.
Anglo's and Zionists rule, though psychopaths of all brands are drawn by the ultimate prize of the power of the US dollar and military.
Melting pot or pressure vessel without a relief valve?
Hopefully it is a pressure vessel without a relief valve and King Donald is about to light a fire under it.
voltaire1964 on March 11, 2016 · at 4:44 am EST/EDT
I do not want to be another Cassandra, "Give me one thousand eyes and I will fill them with prophetic tears…." (Troilus and Cressida), but I am afraid we will end up with the first woman president, who is more Zionist than Moses, and the first Zionist Vice-President, Zionist by religion and ideology.
Time for "I pr'ythee, give me leave to curse awhile." (King Henry VI, part 1). And he who may not know enough about Mr. Sanders, may I suggest the article, "Head in the Sanders" http://wp.me/p2e0kb-1Ox
" If both the speaker and the audience are stupid, it should suggest some conclusions about the mental tone of the exceptional country."
In working with livestock I have noticed that sheep are very much like people. The larger the mob, the easier they are to handle as each individual sheep thinks the one beside it knows where its going so they follow. There are no leaders in the mob of sheep, only the musterer with his dogs who moves them to where he wants them.
Two or three sheep will think for themselves but when brought together into a large mob they cease thinking and are easy to handle.
I don't understand your reference. Who is the mob? Are you aware that BOTH Republicans AND Democrats hate Trump equally well, and all mass media, left and right, has been united in spitting attack after attack in a trully nonstop onslaught? And DESPITE all of the dogs and masters, Trump is the most popular candidate by a long shot. It seems to me that reality is 100% opposite that this picture you are trying to draw. Unless you have in mind a different mob?
The modern day stockman pokes along on a bike and controls the dogs, the dogs control the mob.
And forget not the role of the 'Judas sheep' at the doorway to the abattoir.
Thanks, Jimmie!
"And, besides, it's not like Sanders is a viable option. While the Occupy Wall Street supporters might like him (especially if he teams up with Tulsi Gabbard), the "Socialist" stigma makes the man unelectable in a viscerally anti-Socialist USA (especially since most Americans have no idea whatsoever of what Socialism is all about)."
Nope, that simply isn't true. Polling has consistently shown Sanders to be the most likely POTUS (if nominated) of all Dems and Repubs in the running.
The next on the electability stakes is Kasich followed by Trump.
America has been Socialist for the last 50 years.
Nonsense. The USA is in the throes of late stage finance capitalism. Oligarchs in charge and fascism for the masses.
As I said, Socialist for the last 50 years .
Truly bizarre. Clearly you don't know what socialism means.
Veronica on March 11, 2016 · at 10:20 am EST/EDT
Its all a big circus to divert and entertain the masses, and here we all are getting excited by it. What has humanity come to? And just like Obama, Trump will disappoint and lead his supporters into dejection and loss of hope. But with Hillary comes war and possible extermination. With Trump comes populism that leads to fascism. Let the circus begin. One day it will all end. The Romans knew the value of a good circus and coliseum – keep the masses entertained and they won't rebel and threaten the rule of the oligarchs. So ends my rant! Sometimes I feel like never reading on world affairs and geopolitics ever again. Its all far too depressing. But this is probably what they want me to do. Good night! Time for bed. Maybe I'll feel better in the morning.
Adam on March 11, 2016 · at 9:02 pm EST/EDT
I hope you're feeling better now. Go for a walk, breathe in the air, and remember that we are all only here temporarily, so one day all this will fade into the past and get written about in history books. Not that a lot of us will be around by then to read it.
And the next POTUS, whoever he or she ends up being, hopefully will be the last, and the world can be free of this curse.
Trump is financially unbeholden (money is the sytem's glue) and doesn't read from teleprompters (in a bygone era, it was called thinking). He is an empire nonstarter. I think the decision has been taken that they can't work with him. I don't know HOW he won't get the job but he won't get the job.
A Trump-Sanders ticket (which will never be) would be a seismic shift. The glue there? Both are anti-TPP.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/03/trump-sanders-2016-in-the-last-election-cycle-pre-tpp-only-pariahs-will-do/
James on March 11, 2016 · at 9:49 pm EST/EDT
The Real Trump
Don't get fooled by the 'just a boy' affable nice guy image, Trump can be brutal. He may be a democrat at heart, but he's one like the Clinton's. What he did to the Scottish landscape when he made his golf course for the super rich is outrageous. He had no sensitivity for the local people whose families had lived there generations, and neither for the natural habitat, which scientists who worked in the area getting data about our environment, described as one the last untouched areas in the world of natural beauty.
Trump described the simple rural farmer's and fishermen's homes there as scruffy and an eyesore, and as they would not sell their homes to him he built a wall of sand next to their houses so his posh visitors to his golf course would not see them.
The local council rejected Trump's application for the golf course saying that their investigation showed that it failed on all grounds. That it would not be good for the environment, or for the local people, or bring significant jobs, meaning there would be no real benefits, but the Scottish parliament overturned the council's decision and Trump got his golf course.
This fly-on-the-wall documentary shows in real time what actually happened and how the local people had their homes destroyed. There was also boundary disputes and Trump had his bulldozers smash their fences up, and he also claimed part of a person's house. After taking part of a local resident's land he gave them the bill for the new fence he had erected there. The cost of a few £1000 was nothing to mega rich Trump but it was a fortune to the farmer.
What is interesting, or scary, is how the local police protected Trump while hassling the local residents who had lived there all there lives, as well as their fore-parents and great fore-parents. As Trump bulldozed their land the police harassed the locals treating them like criminals and threatening to put them in prison. They did imprison the journalist and the cameraman who shot the documentary.
Trump got his golf course and he didn't care about how he had spoiled one of the Worlds most natural, beautiful, and untouched habitats as well as the lives of the locals who lived there. Trump is an ignoramus mega rich buffoon who speaks his mind and this is captured on camera. This is the real Trump.
America Exposed, Donald Trump, A Documentary That everybody Must See.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL87Eqf9HOQ
America Exposed, Donald Trump ,A Documentary That everybody Must See
Kate rosser on March 11, 2016 · at 11:38 pm EST/EDT
Hi. Yes, a Trump presidency might be interesting. Hillary is definitely the worst. There's a good article by John V. Walsh comparing the two candidates in terms of neoconservatism and attitudes toward US intervention and killing innocent people abroad. He argues that Trump is the compassionate one. This is certainly something the world could use.
http://quemadoinstitute.org/2016/03/10/trump-compassionate-hillary-arch-racist-john-v-walsh/
But the most amazing statement comes from Russian geopolitical philosopher Alexander Dugin who calls Trump a "sensation" and says: vote for him and see what happens.
http://quemadoinstitute.org/2016/03/02/russian-analyst-alexander-dugin-trump-is-a-sensation/
To those of you familiar with Dugin, who really is he, and how do Russians view him? I've been curious. Wikipedia calls him a fascist, but to me he seems like a humanist.
chimmy on March 12, 2016 · at 2:21 am EST/EDT
Even if Trump makes it all the way, the party apparatchiks still have ample means to block him. Doug Wead who worked on Ron Paul's campaign in 2012 2008? has detailed what Trump is up against: https://dougwead.wordpress.com/ (You will have to scroll down at least four articles to get to it.)
Great line from ZH under heading "It's Not Just The Republican Party; The Corrupt, Cronyist Democratic Party Is Imploding Too"
"Democrats need to ask themselves: if Hillary Clinton is the shining epitome of what the Democratic Party stands for and represents, then what does the Democratic party stand for other than corruption, greed, pay-to-play, Imperial over-reach, elites who are above the law, and a permanent war state overseen by a corporatocracy bent on protecting the unearned privileges of the few at the expense of the many?"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-11/its-not-just-republican-party-corrupt-cronyist-democratic-party-imploding-too
Also on ZH: "Trump Cancels Chicago Speech After Violent "Make America Hate Again" Protests Erupt – Live Feed" with some interesting video and sound track of cancelled event — staged or not to get media coverage, it certainly sounds like and even looks like a possible 'American Spring' emerging.
juliania on March 12, 2016 · at 12:34 pm EST/EDT
I hope this is not off topic but accidentally I came across an old lecture (1977) concerning the condition of Athens at the time of Socrates' trial. In 1977 young persons in the US would have been facing the shame of the Vietnam war, but the message is even stronger today. Anyone interested in the entire lecture can read it at
http://www.sjc.edu/files/8813/9657/8094/sjc_review_vol46_no3.pdf
I will just give here the concluding paragraphs:
" . . . as he[Socrates] puts it to the judges, 'You cannot hurt me but you will hurt yourselves putting me to death.'
Nobody in public life after Pericles, and probably not even Pericles, had been able to make people feel responsible for what had happened. Socrates made them feel responsible because he came in between the relations between generations. You remember how he says, 'If I went abroad and had conversations, the fathers would drive me into exile; and if I did not, the sons would.' In Athens it had taken collusion between generations, between Meletus and Anytus to prosecute him. For it is the relations between generations which determine whether cities live or die or merely survive.
People had gone through disaster; they had seen their fathers and brothers and children and friends killed. They had taken that, but they could not take the dim but unmistakable sense they had in the presence of Socrates that these disasters were of their own doing, that these disasters had to do with how they thought and talked and what they were. When Socrates told them they took better care of their slaves than their friends, of their bodies than their lives, he reminded them, quite unwittingly, of that.
Because he knew his own smallness Socrates struck other men as grand, boastful, even arrogant. Because he took his own measure, he appeared to tower over other men who had trouble telling themselves from gods. And this was intolerable, especially after the events of the last ten years had held up their smallness to them. A generation before they had laughed at him and respected him—now in the narrowness of defeat, possessed by memories they could not face, they killed him—because they feared themselves in him."
[Leo Raditsa: The Collapse of Democracy at Athens and the Trial of Socrates]
Very Good! Well said!
Let us assume that Comrade Brother Trumpster by some mysterious process does elevate to the Clestial level and becomes el presidente…
Dallas – a "correction"… (or subornation, etc)
That would hammer-home a sudden realization in the public mind of their true condition of helpless servitude.
Would this not trigger violence and revolt?
Such is the dilemma confronting oligarchy…
And "Dallas" prior to that?
And the transparent rigging to cloak the anointed Giggles with "consent" by means of a corrupt "election" process – like Bush v Gore, etc…?
Same outcome.
ergo: very probably serious violence and some significant degree of domestic violence is near to hand…
That's awful. Very bad indeed.
Pax, Brothers and Sisters… Pity to see such terrible times…
Virendra on March 12, 2016 · at 3:07 pm EST/EDT
Behind the mask they put – all faces in US election are same and they represent same thing – to Americans and the rest of the world.
Regardless who you get, $hitlary or the trumpeter swan, all you'll see at the end of their term, whether one or 2 or if they make a full term at all, will be rewriting their glorious reign of murder, backstabbing, & high treason.
With the possible bonus that if you get Mein Hair, you'll see a big hot war of a higher involvement just a year or 2 later than if $hitlary is the shizzle.
Plus you will also get a new jingoist patriotic tourist attraction:
http://media.cagle.com/83/2015/08/26/168013_600.jpg
FF to the future, it'll be just like this:
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941222001268
TEHRAN (FNA)- This just in: President Barack Obama has defended America's involvement in the 2011 NATO-imposed regime change in Libya, saying he had a UN mandate and it only cost $1 billion, which "is very cheap."
Obama concedes that Libya turned into a "mess" in the aftermath, however, that was all "Europe's fault", particularly Britain and France, saying he had "more faith in the Europeans, given Libya's proximity, being invested in the follow-up."
Robin Gaura on March 12, 2016 · at 10:50 pm EST/EDT
The country as a whole is exhibiting little interest, as the primary turnout was 11% for dems and 17% for repubs. It reminds me of when the yippies ran a pig named Nobody for president, because nobody cares. Those of us who do care know the system is rigged 10 ways from sunday. Could we possibly find two more odious people to represent us than Ms Clinton or Mr Drumpf? Its so embarrassing being a citizen of the US!