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Phil Andrade
London UK Posts: 5267
Joined: 2004
This being the last day of November, I must mention this notorious battle.
The Battle of Franklin is cited as one of the most tragic episodes in a war that stands as America's supreme tragedy.
Is there anything new that has been published or screened that might change our interpretation of this battle ?
Has there been an attempt at "revisionism" ?
I know that one of John Bell Hood's descendants has written a history of his generalship that makes a vigorous refutation of the caricature that is usually summoned up.
I've discovered an online site called Tenn in 20, which is focused primarily on the story of Tennessee's Civil War, and has a lot about Franklin.
Perhaps today's date will inspire me to take another look.
In the meantime, please pitch in and offer thoughts and comments.
Regards, Phil
"Egad, sir, I do not know whether you will die on the gallows or of the pox!" "That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress." Earl of Sandwich and John Wilkes
No takers on this one, then.....
Let me say, though, that I've been guilty of buying books which I don't read. One such is for CAUSE for COUNTRY A Study of the Affair at Spring Hill and the Battle of Franklin. This is the work of Eric A Jacobson, with co-author Richard A Rupp.
It was published in 2008 and has remained on my shelves for several years with nothing much more than a cursory glance by me. Now I've remedied that, and I must say that it's a very compelling work indeed. Most emphatically recommended. High standard of scholarship combined with real visceral impact.
Reading about horrible battles is always harrowing ; but this one transcends. I can honestly say that I think the word " grotesque" applies to the Battle of Franklin.
Michigan Dave
Muskegon MI USA Posts: 6741
I'm sorry that no one commented on the controversial lopsided Battle of Franklin! Certainly not a good battle for the Confederates, poor general ship?! I just missed seeing it!? I'm sure other CW posters will chime in?
Certainly a battle worth discussing!?
"The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
Thanks, Dave !
Kind of you to support the thread.
Would love to read what people make of this battle.
The story of the special Confederate cemetery there is certainly something.
Civil War historians and commentators indulge in a war of superlatives. The regiment with the highest losses ; the battle which cost more lives than all previous American wars put together ; the greatest slaughter in the shortest time ; the most lopsided carnage ; the most futile and hopeless attack etc. etc.....
Franklin offers a lot here. Just a quick glance at some of the accounts and you'll see authors determined to demonstrate how the southern charge at Franklin was deadlier and more forlorn than Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg. How reliable are the claims about Franklin ?
There is always scope for revision : Franklin also invites this, too.
Be it carnage or controversy - or even a conflation of both - there is indeed a lot to discuss about this battle.
No problem Phil,
Shoot, I'll make some comments. It seems that Gen JB Hood & the AOT were trying to divert Sherman's Attacks on Georgia. But Hood used poor judgement in attacking fortified positions at Franklin, TN.. His frontal attack was worse & larger than Pickets Charge at Gettysburg! He had 6,252 Casualties, including 1,750 dead while the Union had only 189 killed! He was worried that this Union force would hook up with the other Union forces near Nashville, so he threw caution to the wind. More Confederate generals were killed during this engagement than any other CW battle! The battle went so bad for the Army of Tennessee it almost ruined the effectiveness of the Army of Tennessee? After this fiasco Gen. John Bell Hood's commanding days were over!?
Just a few generalities, but you get the idea!
Some good articles, & web sites out there, on it.
Could you post a few, & comment,
My tablet won't let me post them?
What say ya'll??
Gregory C. White
Canton GA USA Posts: 380
I have nothing to add to this conversation, other than I am planning a journey to Franklin, hopefully
in the new year after normalcy (?) has returned. Such a fascinating story and so much carnage and
loss of life !
I've often wondered what the actual Confederate losses were. After Sherman's capture of Atlanta and so
much emphasis and speculation on his whereabouts during the march to Savannah, Georgia newspapers
are woefully scant on casualty lists from Franklin, unlike other major battles earlier in the war. Michigan Dave
said above "it almost ruined the effectiveness of the Army of Tennessee." Based on what I've read the AOT
was so reduced in leadership and manpower, it was pretty much of a non-factor for the remainder of the war.
"Any society which suppresses the heritage of its conquered minorities, prevent their history, and denies them their symbols, has sown the seeds of its destruction." Sir William Wallace, 1280 A.D.
Dave and Greg,
Thanks so much for coming to my rescue here !
The story of Franklin has really got to me, and in my agitation it's good to be able to share my thoughts.
Beware those Union casualty figures ! The official return of 189 killed is deceptive : remember that virtually half of the yankee casualty list of 2,326 was posted as missing in action, and we can be absolutely certain that a significant number of these men had been killed, too. The Union army withdrew in haste overnight, leaving behind its dead and wounded, and in those circumstances their dead could not be properly accounted for. There has been some recent and meticulous research into the records of the yankee units that fought in the battle, and the best count suggests that about 480 union soldiers were killed or mortally wounded in the battle. We might make a reasonable guess here and reckon on 300-325 killed outright, and 150-180 died of wounds in the aftermath of the fight.
What were the rebel losses ? We have the report of Schofield himself, who returned to the battlefield a couple of weeks later and stated that 1,750 confederate graves were counted. After the war, nearly fifteen hundred southern dead were exhumed and reinterred in the McGavock Cemetery on the Carnton Estate : obviously, if Schofield was exaggerating , it was not by much. He also alluded to 3,800 rebel wounded remaining in the hospitals at Franklin, and 702 southern prisoners who had been taken to Nashville....hence the generally cited figure of 6,252 confederate casualties. This is not an official southern return, but anecdotal reporting from an enemy commander. How circumspect should we be ?
Hood himself stated that his loss in the battle was 4,500. The Union general Cox, who fought in the battle, suggested that, allowing for slight wounds, the true figure would be 8,000. Mid way between those two gives us a figure of 6,250.....a nice compliance with Schofield's report.
The important thing to emphasise is that the 1,750 confederate graves he counted would have included rebels who died of wounds in the two weeks after the battle, and if the same criterion is applied to the Yankees , we're contemplating nearly 500 northern dead once we allow for their missing who had been killed and their mortally wounded : a ratio of roughly three and one half to one against the South in terms of fatalities.
I allude to Northerners and Southerners here......but there was a tragic dimension in the story of the men from Border States who fought each other at Franklin. Kentuckians and Missourians fought on both sides in the battle, and in the close quarters combat that was so intense at Franklin, there must have been some grotesque episodes of divided loyalty.
Yes, that word " grotesque " again....it really works here.
And what of Hood's conduct ? Grotesque ? Yes, I suppose so.
I'm tempted to suggest that it would have been better for the Confederacy , and for Hood himself , if he had perished from his Chickamauga wound. His record thereto had been superb.
Greg and Dave,
Having spent the best part of one hour composing one of the most heartfelt and painstaking posts I think I've ever made, only to see the entire thing disappear, I reckon I can better understand how Hood might have felt after the lost opportunity of Spring Hill !
Therein, I daresay, lies the key to understanding his conduct at Franklin.
I'll recover my equilibrium, help Lynn with shopping, and return.
I want to pick up what I've lost.
This battle engages the emotions as much as it does the intellect.
Another attribute of John Bell Hood ?
Back again, to complete unfinished business.
Who said " I shall return" ? Was it Doug McArthur ? If so, very fitting, since his dad participated in the hottest fighting of this battle, being shot and wounded by a rebel officer whom he immediately ran through with his sword. You don't read of this happening too often, do you ? This was certainly a feature - another grotesque one - of the Battle of Franklin : intense and vicious close quarters combat.
Let me pitch a statistical comparison of Franklin with its oft cited Gettysburg counterpart, Pickett's Charge....by which I mean the PPT action, of course.
At Gettysburg, twelve or thirteen thousand rebels advanced across one mile of open ground. At Franklin, about twenty thousand advanced over two miles of equally open ground. At Gettysburg, the rebels deployed one of the biggest artillery barrages of the war ; at Franklin, there was very little artillery at hand to help the southerners. The advancing confederates at Gettysburg outnumbered the defending yankees by about two to one in the immediate vicinity ; at Franklin, the yankees were present in equal numbers to their assailants. The yankees who held the position at Cemetery Ridge were availed of a small stone wall, while their Franklin counterparts had consolidated a most formidable defensive position, with earthworks and artillery fully prepared and able to exploit the panoramic terrain to deadly advantage.
On the face of it, Franklin was the more desperate and forlorn venture.
The casualties, though, are uncannily similar.
The PPT action cost the South 6,580 casualties ; Franklin, 6,252, if we adopt Schofield's report. The yankees suffered 2,332 casualties in the PPT attack; at Franklin they suffered 2,326.
The reason is significant : the mad deployment of Wagner's two brigades, isolated and " in the air" in an exposed position a long way out in front of the Union position, gave Hood's men a lucky chance to smash this deployment and pursue the fleeing yankees into the Union works. Eye witnesses reported seeing scores of the terrified bluecoated fugitives being shot, bayoneted and clubbed to the ground : worse still, the routed federals obscured the field of fire of their comrades, allowing the attackers to get into their position and press the fighting to close quarters. This initial triumph, however, was to prove the rebels' undoing.
A furious and determined counter attack stopped the rebels in a fight that was hand to hand and of unimaginable intensity. The attacking confederates were effectively pinned down in a killing ground, where they faced concentrated and converging firepower at point blank range. Their predicament has been described as the worst ever faced by soldiers in that war, which, when you think of Fredericksburg or Cold Harbor, is saying a lot. Another grotesque feature of the battle is the loss of Hood's high ranking officers, who shared their men's fate and literally " died in the ditch" with them.
This battle certainly combined the grandeur of Pickett's Charge with the grisly horrors of Spotsylvania.
Once the yankees had stabilised the position, the battle became a massacre. The rebels faced some yankee units that were equipped with repeating rifles. Artillery compounded the effect.
A large number of wounded southerners were repeatedly hit by so many bullets that the proportion of killed among the casualties was grotesquely high. Normally, about seventeen per cent of men who were shot in the civil war's battles were killed outright. At Franklin, the ratio was far more deadly. One of the Confederate brigades that made a report was Cockrell's Missouri Brigade. Taking 696 men into the battle, it reported 98 killed, 229 wounded and 92 missing, sixty per cent of the entire command. A southern private from that brigade assisted in burying his dead comrades the next morning, and wrote that 119 of his fellow Missourians were laid in one long grave between the infamous cotton gin and the Columbia Pike. The McGavock cemetery contains the remains of 130 who are identified as from Missouri, and there are surely more interred in a plot for the " Unknowns".
This brings me to another grotesque attribute of this battle : the participation of men from the Border States who fought against each other. Missourians and Kentuckians were prominent here. The 44th Missouri was the Union regiment that stands as the supreme example. It took the full brunt of the hand to hand fighting that I alluded to earlier, and its casualties attest the nature of the combat : 34 killed, 37 wounded and 92 missing. There were scores of dead yankees counted around the porch of the Carter House....most of them, maybe all, would have been posted as missing rather than confirmed as killed in the Union casualty figures.
Please let me know if you visit the McGavock Cemetery, Greg.
Hi Phil, & Greg,
I can see what you mean about the Battle of Franklin being so horrific! If they made it into a movie you would think it had to be science fiction! Here the American National Battlefield trust does a good job portraying it!? What say you about their take? Also feel free to post other facts & info about this deadly encounter!?
I enjoy how threads like this, on Franklin, because it causes us to dig deeper!
Greg, be sure to send pics and info if you do visit the battlefield, I hear they are reclaiming acreage including what used to be a Pizza Hut, Pepperoni anyone?!
Stay safe, & regards,
Had it not been for their initial tantalising success, would the rebels have abandoned their attacks and avoided the terrible loss of life that they suffered ? They would surely have been repulsed with loss, but not to the catastrophic extent that actually occurred.
Perhaps the same question might be asked about Gettysburg. Here, too, an imprudent yankee deployment left a significant force exposed to envelopment and destruction, as Sickles pushed his corps forward and was overwhelmed as Wagner's two brigades were to be at Franklin. The failure of Pickett was attributable in some degree to the promise of partial success achieved on day two.
I'm trying to imagine what those southern troops must have felt as they went forward against those enemy works at Franklin. They themselves had slaughtered yankee attackers at New Hope Church and Kennesaw from the cover of their defences : they were now going forward against even more formidable works.
No one could have been more aware of this than Cleburne, who had exacted such a toll from the northern troops he had repulsed six months earlier. Now he himself was to pay the price.
If Wagner's men had not been out there in front, the rebel attack would have been so quickly and decisively repulsed that the thing might have been stopped after the loss of a couple of thousand men, rather than the five or six thousand that were actually cut down. I'm musing here, and have to admit that it's not going to sound convincing to everyone !
Let me pitch another idea about the grotesque nature of the battle.
Opdycke disagreed with his immediate superior, Wagner, and blatantly disobeyed his orders to deploy his brigade in front of the main position.
In so doing, he made a very important contribution to saving the Union army, because he was able and willing to launch that crucial counter attack and restore the line.
In the confederate camp, the generals were dismayed at the order to attack, but did so all the same.
Victory gained through disobedience ; defeat brought about by obedience ?
Your right on how Opdycke's counter attack, & the fact that so many Confederate Generals were killed in the attack hurt the Confederate momentum, & leadership at the height of the battle. It had to have a negative effect on Hood's troops!? Nathan Bedford Forest, like Long street at Gettysburg tried to dissuade Hood from making this frontal assault! Once committed there was no stopping Hood from executing it!?
What say you?
BTW what major Confederate Generals were killed??
It's really an astonishing twist, isn't it ?
There was Hood, at Gettysburg, desperately arguing for a flanking manoeuvre as an alternative to the orders : he was told to obey orders and go to it.
Seventeen months later, there's a complete reversal : there's Hood, insisting on pressing home a frontal attack, while one of his most able subordinates pleas for a flanking alternative and is being denied.
Who would dare to make this up ?
Try as I might, I just can't let go of this Franklin thing.
It's almost as if I were pinned down in front of the yankee breastworks, witnessing the massacre of my comrades.
It's not just the numbers of Hood's men who were killed there : it's also the quality of those superb fighting men, squandered in a thoroughly futile affair.
No fewer than sixty eight of the higher command echelon of the Army of Tennessee - regimental commanders and above - were killed, wounded or captured, fourteen of them generals. Of the 68 , twenty were confirmed as killed or mortally wounded, six of them generals. I suppose that I ought to take a look at the cadre of confederate officers who fought in the PPT action at Gettysburg, and see how it compared .
As for Hood himself, one has to try and empathise with his motives. He gained his reputation as the proponent of using shock troops who were disciplined and motivated to hit hard in head on battle. Gaines' Mill, almost exactly two and a half years before Franklin, stands as his monument. The yankee earthworks were stormed at bayonet point in a manner that impressed even Stonewall Jackson. Hood did it again in crushing style at Second Manassas, and yet again in desperate circumstances in the Cornfield at Sharpsburg. Despite his misgivings, his men meted out brutal damage to the Federals when his division attacked on Day Two at Gettysburg. If further proof were needed, we need look no further than Chickamauga. With an arm and a leg sacrificed to his cause, he must have felt profoundly frustrated under Joe Johnston's command in Georgia, even to the point that he intrigued in a manner that was, frankly, disgraceful. Good grief, what was it about the Western Theatre that inspired such unedifying conduct in both armies ?
At Franklin itself, the yankees were displaying this : Wagner and Opdyke, both fierce fighters with ungovernable tempers, were shouting at each other in a manner that shocked the officers and men who witnessed it. Indeed, it was Opdyke's insubordination that saved the day : had he obeyed Wagner his men would have been swallowed up in the initial rebel attack and would not have been available to mount that dramatic counter attack.
For Hood to have seen his dream opportunity bungled away at Spring Hill must have been an intolerable business. He wanted to redeem that with another Gaines' Mill moment. Note the instructions he gave : hold your fire until you have gained the enemy lines, and only shoot when you see them running. It had worked before.
The calibre of the men in the rebel ranks was such as to justify his expectations. As to whether he underestimated his foe.....?
An interesting anecdote comes to mind about rebel sharpshooters. There was a little hill called Privet Knob several hundred yards in front of the yankee lines, and in the hours before the big attack a unit of sharpshooters armed with the coveted British manufactured Whitworth Rifles were busy picking off federal cannoneers . They were eminently successful, shooting down seven at long range, aided by the telescopic sights on their rifles. Think of Sedgwick at Spotsylvania and his famous last words ! The yankee gunners, with their rifled guns, retaliated by firing at the hill. How strange that such a Napoleonic style of assault should be preceded by fighting that had attributes of more modern warfare !
Incidentally, the very year before the Civil War started, Queen Victoria herself was asked to test the new Whitworth Rifle when she was invited as guest of honour at the weapon's trial. She was provided with a special rest and some form of protection from recoil, and to her own delight and that of the assembled grandees, she hit the bullseye from one quarter of a mile ! I wonder if she could have imagined that four years later rebellious former subjects of the British Crown were putting it to such deadly use fighting each other !
Franklin is certainly up there with Gettysburg, Antietam, in controversy, & massive bloodshed. It's easy to see how your so interested in it!?
BTW with so many Confederate Officers killed, do you know if CW sharpshooter s targeted officers? Any proof of this?
Stay safe, I hear the UK is having major Covid 19 problems!? Stay inside, & research the Battle of Franklin!?
You know what, Dave ?
Reading about Hood and Franklin does help me, as we writhe in this dark Covid valley.
How would Hood behave faced with our dilemma ? Should we go head on and press home with bold moves, taking risks that might get us out of this predicament ; or should we do a Joe Johnston, keep our heads down and trust in caution rather than boldness ?
The one might yield a Franklin, the other cedes more and more ground to the foe.
I suppose each approach has its merits : so much is a question of timing and luck.
Poor Hood ! He deserved better luck, I truly believe. His own desperate physical wreckage notwithstanding, he married in 1868 and produced eleven children, which really does tell us about bold and assertive action !
Hood's own awful fate was to die with his wife and some of his children in a yellow fever epidemic in Louisiana in the 1870s. Compared with that, what's Covid ?
Now I read that schools and streets named after him have had their names changed in this current outbreak of another disease that afflicts minds rather than bodies.....I won't go there. It's as if Hood has been killed twice.
What's with this new strain of Covid any way, does it have a multiplier effect? Also Hood at Gettysburg led the Texas Brigade, did he have Texans at Franklin??
Two new strains : one identified in the South East of England, entailing a rather more rapid spread ; and another, more worrying, traced to South Africa which has the propensity to afflict children more than the virus we've been living with for the past year. I hope that I'm wrong about this.
Regarding Texans at Franklin : yes, there was a significant contingent of them who served in General Hiram Granbury's Brigade. Four infantry regiments and three dismounted cavalry regiments of Texans fought in the battle. Granbury himself was killed, his body found within twenty steps of the enemy breastworks, collapsed on his knees with his hands on his face. Of the 1,100 men he commanded, 400 were casualties. There are 89 graves in the McGavock Cemetery which mark those identified as Texans, but it's probable that some of the 225 interred as Unknown are also from Texas.
Here's the breakdown of interments :
Mississippi - 424
Tennessee - 230
Missouri - 130
Alabama - 129
Arkansas - 104
Texas - 89
Georgia - 69
South Carolina - 51
Louisiana - 19
Kentucky - 5
Florida - 4
North Carolina - 2
Unknown -225
There were several hundred yankee dead left on the field. Their returning comrades went to great pains to exhume them : most of them had been buried in their own earthworks, with the earth simply thrown over them by the rebels who had too many of their own dead to worry about. After the war, these yankees were removed to a big concentration cemetery at Murfreesboro. It had been suggested that they remain in a local cemetery nearer Franklin itself, but it's rumoured that The Klan insisted otherwise.
Sorry for interrupting your CW thread with talk of Covid 19, your list on interments definitely indicates most of the Confederate forces from Western states, I'm sure that Union losses will reflect the same?? Lee, & Meade, & Grant after all had their hands full out east!?
Anything else on this battle? It seems like Lee at Gettysburg, Hood felt he had to attack, & win a significant victory At this pivital time for the AoT? Maybe it effected his decision??
Happy holidays, & stay safe,
Barnesville Blues
Killarney Ireland Posts: 4
I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Jacobson November 2019 at the Franklin Battlefield Visitors Center. He is one of those guys who really knows the battle, starting talking about the division I was researching with even referring to notes and told me something that I didn't know. I also met Mr. Cartwright, another man jam packed with knowledge on the Battle.
John R. Price
Wilkes-Barre PA USA Posts: 1160
In one of your post you talk about Spring Hill being this great bungled oppertunity for Hood and the AOT and I think that is over blown. It is the end of November and northern Tenn is far from the deep south weather wise. That "morning dew" on the grass is frost. Hood has sent Cheatham's and Stewert's Corps in Forrest's Corps wake basically cross country on a flanking movement. There are numerous accounts from throughout the campaign, Florence to Nashville, of mounrs breaking down and the shortage of shoes for the troops. Remember the quote about following the retreat from Nashville by the bloody footprints? The numbers given for the AOT reflect ZERO straggling. Also by the time Cleburne and Bate come up Forrest's troopers are basically out of ammo and the ammo wagons for them haven't caught up. Also they have taken but a few arty batteries with them on the march and the two or three that actually attempted to go into action late in the afternoon were thoughly over-matched.
Hope you had a good Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
A battle long forgotten by our country in a war never understood by our country. "to satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds, in the name of destiny and in the name of God"
Thanks for coming to the party : you've opened my eyes to an aspect of Spring Hill which has never occurred to me. I had always accepted the popular accounts of a wasted chance.
I must make it my business to look again.
The men that Hood lead north into central Tennessee were still battle worthy, wouldn't you say ?
I've just been looking at the story of the fight at Allatoona Pass eight weeks before Franklin, and it's apparent that it was an extremely fierce business, with French's Division reporting more casualties than it was to at Franklin. At Allatoona the yankees had strong redoubts and quite a lot of repeating rifles : yet the losses on both sides were remarkably even. Clearly , Hood's men were in fine form then : how far did the ensuing eight weeks wear them down in body and soul ?
I want to wish you all the best for the New Year, and hope that you had a good Christmas too.
Great to have you with us, again, BB !
Which division were you researching ?
Happy to talk about Covid : even more so if I compare the approach to it with the different styles of a Joe Johnston and a John Bell Hood !
You're right, I think, to suggest that Hood was acting at Franklin under the same sense of " now or never" that had weighed on Lee at Gettysburg.
Yes, preponderantly western troops fought on both sides at Franklin. Those guys liked a scrap !
Best wishes to you, too.
How far do you think you can walk in the frost with no shoes or socks? Or even on the cold ground? Are you going to be able to keep pace with those that have shoes and socks?
Plus look at the numbers. About 3,300 in 3 Brigades with French with about 900 casualties leaves about 800 men in each Brigade. You talked about the Tex units in Granberry's Brigade but you failed to mention that 2 of the infantry regiments and the 3 dismounted cav reginemt had been consolidated into 2 regiments and 3 other units added and there was still less that 1,300 men.
At Spring Hill by the time Cleburne and Bate got up in was mid to late afternoon, they had little arty and Forrest's troopers were basically out of ammo. And Spring Hill was the end of over 75 miles of hard forced marches in less than a week.
Oh dear, yes ! Of course marching 75 miles over frozen ground without footwear must be a nightmare.
The wonder is that those men were able and willing to fight at Franklin at all.
It's a complex campaign : this is the first time that I've tried to survey the thing properly, and I confess that my mind reels when I try and remember all the different locations and names of the various officers. This is where the Eastern Theatre is so much more familiar and easier to assimilate : a bad thing to admit, and something I must try and put right in my own mind.
I note that there were instances in the campaign when Hood refrained from pressing home attacks because he was unwilling to take the probable casualties attendant on a direct frontal assault. That makes Franklin all the more shocking.
Hood seems to have been a proponent of bold manoeuvre : things kept going wrong.
Just a quick question, would you say who ever wins the Battle of Franklin, wins at Nashville too??
BTW it would seem this far into the war that A fair amount of Confederate troops would either have made some kind of makeshift footwear or taken boots from dead troops? But then again many were documented without! Any citing in histories on this?
BTW Does Springhill, Franklin, & Nashville all have nice Battlefield Parks to visit, I travel by there most winters??
Winning at Spring Hill was bound to make a huge difference . Imagine what that would have done to Schofield's army !
Trying to attribute a " might have been " to Franklin is too difficult for me : that battle would not have been fought if Spring Hill had been conducted according to Hood's expectations.
Think of Chickamauga and Confederate victory there : that resulted in huge Southern defeat at Chattanooga. I get the impression that Thomas was going to win whenever, wherever, with or without Franklin ; although the Southern casualties at Franklin rendered union victory at Nashville far more likely.
Rebels had been taking boots from dead yankees for a long time prior to Franklin : look at the photos of Union dead at Gettysburg, and you'll see bloated blue clad corpses minus their shoes near the Peach Orchard and the Emmitsburg Road.. Much ink has been expended discussing Heth's claim that Gettysburg was fought because the rebels were looking for shoes !
As for Lee's first foray into Maryland in September 1862, there is a wealth of anecdote about his men being barefoot.
There has been an effective effort to help preserve the Franklin battlefield, and a Pizza Restaurant was removed from it recently. People are more interested in preserving such sites, but I fear that the prevalent onslaught of the " woke " will prove more of a threat to it than real estate developers, as the wave of revulsion against the symbols of the Confederacy sweeps away anything that allows us to view the past with equanimity.
I don't have the material handy but I want to say shortly after Franklin Hood wrote in a letter or report that he attacked to break the men of the fear of attacking breastworks. So that would have been the corps or division commanders calling off frontal attacks not Hood.
Years back I saw in book or article the author call this the "fantasy campaign" and at the time I still held on to the ANVA mage of Hood and thought this guy is nuts. Now after more than 30 years reading as much as I can on the Western War I don't think he went far enough.
You mention that AoNV image of Hood. That's the triumphant brigade and division commander, and it does make a seductive image...Gaines' Mill, Second Manassas and the desperate attempt to remonstrate about the folly of a line of advance at Gettysburg. And yet, the commander of the AoNV himself, while giving full credit to Hood's combat prowess, was prepared to go on the record and inform Davis that he [Lee} was ...doubtful as to other qualities necessary... when it came to assessment of Hood's suitability for command of the AoT. That's a very sobering qualification. It does serve to show how we all have our ceiling, so to speak. A man who is absolutely superb as a subordinate commander is going to be plain out of his depth when it comes to army command. I still feel that Hood was very unlucky, and that the sheer toxicity of the relationships between senior officers in the Western Theatre was bound to compound the effects of this bad luck.
It wasn't "Western officers" that didn't carry out Joe Johnston's orders to attack at least twice and then write to Richmond that Johnston had no plans to attack, it was Hood. The point your not wrapping your head around is that Hood wallowed in and create his share of the toxicity. You can blame it on the woman and being high as a kite but you can't say it ain't so. He sat there kissing Joe Johnston's butt to his face while planting the knife in his back in letters to Richmond.
Hey, John, just a moment, please !
Near the beginning of this thread I mentioned how Hood intrigued in a manner that was, frankly, disgraceful .
Those were pretty well my exact words.
Sad fool that I am, I got quite agitated when I saw your comment that I wasn't getting my head round that .
Forgive me I just don't feel the "toxcitity" was as widespread and ingrained as you implied. I believe there was a unholy trinity of Bragg, Loring and Bishop Polk with the Davis/Joe Johnston fued thrown on top. I think one of Hood and Johnston's biggest problems was Loring was the senior division commander in Hood's Corps.
Thanks for explaining. Your knowledge and interest in the Western Theatre wins my respect. I need to learn more about Loring.....what was his culpability ?
Main instigator in the anti Pemberton bull in the Army of Miss who three times at Champion Hill ignored orders to support Bowen's attack. Good place to start.
Thank you, I always enjoyed this site. It might not be as active as the other civil war site I was a member of but at least it doesn't drag modern politics into history. At Franklin, the unit I am researching was in Tyler's/T. B. Smith's Brigade, Bate's Division, Cheatham's Corps.
At Franklin, the unit I am researching was in Tyler's/T. B. Smith's Brigade, Bate's Division, Cheatham's Corps.
Ah, yes.....Tennesseans and Georgians.
Thanks for telling me.
Jacobson's book reveals that Bate's division suffered several hundred casualties in the battle, although it's clear that, compared with the worst hit, they escaped lightly. All the same, there are 230 men from Tennessee and 69 from Georgia who are interred at the McGavock Cemetery, in addition to those who might be buried in the " Unknown" section, and undoubtedly a significant portion of these are from the brigade you are researching.
Here are the figures for divisional casualties as officially returned, or, in the case of Cleburne and Brown, estimated. The figure for Forrest's Cavalry is reckoned at no more than half of the 269 returned for the whole month of November.
Cleburne : 1,500
Brown : 1,150
Loring : 876
French : 652
Johnson : 587
Walthall : 580
Bate : 319
Forrest : 134
This total of about 5,800 does beg the question as to whether there has been a degree of exaggeration in the usually accepted estimates.
Lord knows, though, that citation of fifty eight hundred is bad enough. It bears a resemblance to the Confederate casualty list for the great Battle of Atlanta on 22 July 1864, which was the deadliest day of battle in the entire Georgia Campaign of May to September. At Atlanta, Cleburne's division of 3,500 attacked relentlessly all day and into the night , and reported casualties of 1,388, roughly 40% of its strength. At Franklin, the same division numbered 2,900 and is estimated to have taken 1,500 casualties : 52%..... the preponderance of them sustained in a couple of hours. The loss of senior officers at Atlanta was dreadful, but Franklin's toll was even worse. The fighting was more confined in terms of time and space, with a great concentration of slaughter focused on a tiny area around the Carter House building and yard. Worse still, the close quarters exposure to the most intense enemy firepower from rifles and artillery meant that the proportion of killed among those who were hit was very high, with men being struck repeatedly and literally torn to shreds.
Sometimes I wonder if Jeff Davis and Hood were thinking about a Civil War equivalent of Germany's Ardennes Offensive of December 1944.
Mr. Jacobsen stated to me that T. B. Smith's Brigade and Bate's Florida Brigade both got trapped in a ravine and could not fully turn their front towards the union line, Jackson who commanded Bate's other Brigade, complained after the Battle that his attack was not properly supported. Mr. Jacobsen told me this in passing but I have never been able to find any documentation on it.
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That's the number of free throw attempts by UNC and Clemson respectively in Sunday's game, and a few folks find that suspicious. (Ah, Duke fan complaining about calls - you're my favorite one of all.) So how does a team get to the line 31 fewer times than their opponent?
Well first of all, it helps if you miss the front end of all of your one-and-ones. That'll cut back on your trips to the line. But the foul count was in UNC's favorite 31 to 14. But I could have told you there was going to be a discrepancy going into the game. And it's not because I've been donating unsequential bills to the ACC Referee Children's College Fund, either. Remember this table?
Clemson fouls. A lot. They play an agressive, turnover-generating defense, and like the other such defenses in the league - Duke and Florida State - they send their opponents to the line pretty often. UNC, however, doesn't generate many turnovers - they're second to Boston College in not doing that - and consequently rarely sends opponents to the line. Pair that with a concerted strategy of not fouling during Clemson's collapse, despite the color commentary crew arguing it would be a good idea, and UNC's inability to consistently shoot from outside (there are more fouls on plays in the paint than behind the arc) and it's not really a shock the foul total was so lopsided.
I'll give you a hint. The games this week against Virginias Tech and Original Recipe? UNC's opponents are again going to outfoul them. Virginia Tech plays a similar defensive style to the Tigers, and foul even more often. Virginia is just bad, and fouls heavily as a result. Now if there are ridiculously large margins against N.C. State or BC, you might have a case, but with Clemson, it's no harm, no foul.

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RESOLUTION NO. RS2016-205
A resolution authorizing the Metropolitan Department of Law to compromise and settle the two distinct wage and hour class action claims brought by Vonda Noel on behalf of herself and all other similarly situated Davidson County Sheriff's Office employees against the Metropolitan Government in the amount of $199,936.25 for the Fair Labor Standards Act class; and in the amount of $1,900,000.00 for the Rule 23 unpaid wages class; for a total of $2,099,936.25 to be paid out of the Judgment and Losses Fund.
WHEREAS, Vonda Noel on behalf of herself and others similarly situated Davidson County Sheriff's Office ("DCSO") employees filed a lawsuit against the Metropolitan Government consisting of Fair Labor Standards Act ("FLSA") class action claims and Rule 23 of the Federal Rules Civil Procedure ("Rule 23") class action claims for unpaid wages; and,
WHEREAS, after investigation, the Metropolitan Department of Law believes that the settlement listed in Section 1 is fair and reasonable and in the best interest of the Metropolitan Government and recommends that the FLSA class claims be compromised and settled in the amount of $199,936.25 and the Rule 23 unpaid wages class claims be compromised and settled in the amount of $1,900,000.00.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE METROPOLITAN GOVERNMENT OF NASHVILLE AND DAVIDSON COUNTY:
Section 1: The Metropolitan Department of Law is authorized to compromise and settle the claims of Vonda Noel on behalf of herself and other similarly situated DCSO employees in the amount of $199,936.25 for the FLSA class, and $1,900,000.00 for the Rule 23 unpaid wages class all for a total of $2,099,936.25 to be paid out of the Judgment and Losses Fund.
Section 2: This resolution shall take effect from and after its adoption, the welfare of The Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County requiring it.
Sponsored by: Bill Pridemore
Referred to: Budget & Finance Committee
Adopted: April 19, 2016
Approved: April 20, 2016
Requests for ADA accommodation should be directed to the Metropolitan Clerk at 615/862-6770.


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"Through the partnership with 4 to 40 we were able to create a part-time administrative support role within our core practice. This role started as a temporary opportunity; however, once we found the right individual, we saw the role grow. The success of our new team member was only possible do to her hard work and dedication along with the commitment and support from the job coach, 4 to 40 program and our MNP team. We are extremely proud of our team member as she is one of few that have successfully secured a permanent job with any organization. While MNP has obtained a very valuable team member, we feel that the real success has been to our colleague as she has achieved her goal of meaningful employment with an organization that is welcoming and respectful to her."
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"For Roger, Lesley, Nicole and Shelley, the four employees we've welcomed through this partnership, the benefits are clear. They get meaningful work in a welcoming environment. They build skills, relationships, and experience. We've seen their confidence grow and witnessed the immense pride they take in their work and being part of team FCC.
For FCC, the impact is just as meaningful. Our CEO Michael Hoffort is a passionate champion and recently told teams at FCC that this initiative is one of the things that makes him most proud as CEO. That commitment starts at the top, but is felt by many throughout the organization. Through this partnership, we benefit from dedicated employees who bring new perspective, energy and enthusiasm to our workplace. Those who work closely with our 4to40 employees talk about how the experience continues to help them focus on people's possibilities, not perceived limitations."
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"As the labour market continues to shift and evolve in our province, sourcing talented and skilled individuals is becoming increasingly difficult. Leveraging partnerships with community organizations such as 4 to 40 has proved to be a successful & innovative way for Sasktel to tap into a talent pool, that otherwise may have been overlooked."
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"This past year (2017) we finally made the plunge into becoming a 4 to 40 employer and we couldn't be happier in doing so. Marc is an integral part of our team. He started helping with Search Engine Optimization, but was really drawn to photography and videography.
Recognizing his "superpower" we set up www.reginastockphoto.com and now he takes photos, edits them, then uploads to his website. After we had over 200 photos on display we asked Marc "what do you want to do with Regina Stock Photo? It's your website!" He replies, "I want to give it to Tourism Regina so more people can use my photos." That's when we knew he had become a Stratlabber."
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Canadian Transit at the Forefront of Equitable Mobility
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Regina Leader-Post: 'Champions of transit': Reginans with disabilities will teach peers to ride the bus
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Dylan Morin is an extremely hard working and dedicated citizen in the Regina community.
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"It's nice to have money. Especially when I want to buy something big."
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"I would love to work in an office because it seems fun and full of positive energy!"
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"I love cars," he beamed. "I'd like to work with Monster trucks or clean Nascars. Maybe a mechanic."
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Nothing makes me happier than hearing about someone's success at work
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Finding the perfect job is hard!
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National Disability Employment Awareness Month recognized at the University of Regina
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Celebrating Campus For All Success
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4to40 Press Conference: National Disability Employment Awareness Month recognized at the University of Regina
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4to40 Interview with Patrick, SaskTel and RHSAA Employee -- Celebrating Inclusive Employers!
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Dutch Industries manager recognized for hiring people with intellectual disabilities
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Employer of Excellence Award 2016 - Dutch Industries
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4to40 Interview with Austin, SARCAN Employee -- Celebrating Inclusive Employers
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4to40 Interview with Rene, RHSAA Employee -- Celebrating Inclusive Employers!
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Economic Belonging - Building an Inclusive Workforce Featured in SSCF Annual Report
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4to40 Featured in 2016 Vital Signs Report: Economic Belonging -- Building an Inclusive Workforce
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Al McGuire Award for Transition to Employment 2015 - Patrick Flaman
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The Al McGuire Award Winner for Transition to Employment 2015 - Patrick Flaman
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The Bakers Dozen, my 13 key expectations of a service agency recruiting people with disabilities into my business. - Mark Wafer
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The Business Case For Inclusive Employment
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SARC Update Feature - Spring 2015
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Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce Article
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4to40 featured in Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce Newsletter
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SARC Update Feature - Winter 2014-2015
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Employer of Excellence Award 2014 - Sasktel
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Employer of Excellence Award 2013 - Ambassador Coffee
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The objective of the Travel Training Program is to provide the knowledge and practical skills that are needed to travel independently on public transit.


This year, I'm turning 40.
It's hard to believe that it's been forty years since I was born. I think my parents might be a little shocked too. I mean, they were just young adults when I was born. I guess that means they've aged forty years too. But shhh! They certainly don't want to hear it. Ha!
My 40th birthday party started out as a surprise, but apparently there were too many questions to answer, and they didn't know how to get the answers without making the whole plan obvious. So, although it isn't a surprise, it's still a pretty awesome thing.
The second to last race of the 2018 NASCAR season is November 11th in Phoenix. There will be eight of us, spending the entire weekend at the racetrack. We've rented a very large home, big enough for all of us to stay together, and I promise that house is going to get a lot of use those several days. Three NASCAR races, over three days. I can't imagine the kind of shenanigans that will take place, but I can guarantee that I'm going to let loose and allow my 40th birthday to be amazing. I mean, you only turn 40 once.
Racing, swimming, and bbqing. This will be a birthday to remember.


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Wilkie touts a calmer, reformed VA in his first congressional test
Leo Shane III
Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie testifies during a hearing of the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs on Sept. 26, 2018. (Alex Brandon/AP)
WASHINGTON — Less than two months into his term leading the Department of Veterans Affairs, Secretary Robert Wilkie insists the department is finally on the right track.
"We have a full organizational tree of people I've been able to bring in, including the chief of staff and a new acting deputy. … I'm very happy the institution has calmed down," he said at an appearance on Capitol Hill Wednesday.
"I believe it's a no-partisan institution, and I'm going to do my best to make sure that people feel good about working at VA. I think it's very different."
Whether that calmness will continue remains to be seen. Wilkie, President Donald Trump's replacement for David Shulkin — the VA secretary he fired via social media this spring — was peppered with questions from skeptical senators Wednesday at his first congressional hearing since taking over the veterans bureaucracy.
Here are the biggest issues facing the new Veterans Affairs secretary
Robert Wilkie steps into a department which has seen multiple accomplishments and multiple headaches in recent months.
Among the questions: Is the workforce morale improving? Are Trump's business friends outside government unduly influencing department policy? And can senators expect real changes from Wilkie after hearing similar promises from past VA leaders?
Despite — or because of — a budget that has swelled to over $200 billion for fiscal 2019, VA has faced a steady drumbeat of criticism from lawmakers since 2014, when then-VA Secretary Eric Shinseki was forced to resign over allegations of records manipulation by senior staff.
Since then, VA leaders have worked to restore congressional and public trust in the institution, with mixed results. Wilkie's next test on that will come on Thursday, when VA officials brief lawmakers on his work developing new rules for a forthcoming overhaul of department community care programs.
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Both the new secretary and president have repeatedly said they're offering more "choice" to veterans in their health care options, and Congress in June finalized a series of sweeping changes designed to ease the path for veterans to get VA to cover the costs of a host of outside medical appointments.
But developing the rule — a process expected to take months — will require carefully balancing issues of health care flexibility with concerns over privatizing much of the VA's core mission.
Wilkie on several occasions, including Wednesday, has said he is opposed to privatizing the department. Democrats in both chambers have said they fear the new standards, if written too broadly, could do just that.
Several on the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee also confronted Wilkie over reports that a trio of businessmen with membership to Trump's Florida Mar-a-Lago country club have had significant influence over past VA policy, including being involved in the firing of Shulkin.
Wilkie said he has only met with the men once, an hour-long meeting when he was acting secretary, and insisted they have no policy role today.
"I am committed to making sure I am the sole person accountable to you," he said, adding that while he is open to outside advice, no VA staff are currently consulting with the men.
.@wwp attended @DeptVetAffairs @SecWilkie's live testimony on The State of the VA. In case you missed it, you can check out the full testimony here: https://t.co/eW0uCUYh1g pic.twitter.com/Nxl3lmnZPV
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As he did in his confirmation hearing, Wilkie listed his top priorities as implementing the new community care reforms, advancing work on joint military and VA medical records, reforming department business practices and "to make accessing VA services seamless, effective, efficient and emotionally resonant."
The son of a wounded Vietnam veteran, Wilkie said he understands the national importance of the department, and vowed to see it succeed.
"I am happy to say that the state of VA is better — better because of the work of this committee, the attention paid to veterans by the administration, better because we have a functioning, experienced leadership team in place," he said. "We're better because the turmoil of the first seven months of 2018 is in the rear view mirror."
About Leo Shane III
Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.
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Reduce Likelihood of Infection After Hysterectomy
Jake Remaly
Improving hand hygiene, optimizing antibiotic order sets, and removing catheters sooner were among the interventions associated with a decreased risk of infections after hysterectomy, according to research presented at the virtual annual scientific meeting of the Society of Gynecologic Surgeons.
"Implementation of bundled interventions and an institutional focus on reducing infection can successfully reduce the burden of posthysterectomy infectious morbidity," said study author Shitanshu Uppal, MBBS, an ob.gyn. specializing in gynecologic oncology at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
To assess the impact of quality improvement efforts on infectious morbidity after hysterectomy, Dr. Uppal and colleagues analyzed data from 1,867 hysterectomies performed between Oct. 8, 2015, and Oct. 7, 2018. Patients were at least 18 years old, younger than 90 years old, and underwent hysterectomy via any route at the University of Michigan Medical Center Hospital.
Interventions to reduce infections included the use of cefazolin as a preferred antibiotic, the addition of metronidazole to first-generation cephalosporins for antibiotic prophylaxis, subcuticular closure of open incisions, and earlier removal of Foley catheters. In addition, the institution evaluated and shared information about doctors' hand hygiene, implemented enhanced recovery after surgery (ERAS) protocols, and held periodic meetings with doctors to discuss efforts to reduce infections. Most interventions were implemented by November 2017.
The primary outcome was overall infection rate in the 30 days after surgery for each of the 3 years included the study. Infections included superficial surgical site infections, deep infections, Clostridium difficile infections, and urinary tract infections, among others.
Patients' baseline clinical characteristics did not differ during the 3 years studied. Length of stay decreased, which may be attributed to increased use of ERAS protocols and institution of same-day discharge in laparoscopic cases, Dr. Uppal said. The rate of malignancy on final pathology decreased from 29% in year 1 to 23% in year 3. The rate of laparoscopic surgery increased from 55% to 64%.
Infectious morbidity rates decreased from 7% in year 1 (47 infections per 644 cases) to 4% in year 3 (22 infections per 616 cases).
"We saw a reduction in infection rate in all categories," said Dr. Uppal. "However, the reduction in urinary tract infection as well as superficial surgical site infection was most pronounced."
After adjustment for the route of surgery, body mass index, age, malignancy on final pathology, modality of surgery, and comorbidities, performance of hysterectomy in year 3 was independently predictive of lower rates of infectious morbidity by 56%.
In addition, the standardized incidence ratio for surgical site infection as reported by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services decreased. In December 2016, Michigan Medicine's ratio was 1.057. At the end of 2018, the projected ratio was 0.243.
The interventions started on different dates, and "we are unable to conclude, from all the implemented interventions, which one worked," Dr. Uppal noted.
"I hope the elements from this quality improvement initiative will become the standard of care in order to benefit our patients," said Amy Park, MD, section head of female pelvic medicine and reconstructive surgery at Cleveland Clinic.
In addition, the study "pertains to one of CMS's major programs to reduce and prevent health care-associated infections," Dr. Park said at the virtual meeting. Several CMS quality indicators in 2020 relate to gynecologic surgery, including postoperative wound dehiscence rate, catheter-related UTI rate, and surgical site infection related to hysterectomy. The CMS will reduce hospital payments to institutions in the worst performing quartile for hospital-acquired infection scores by 1%.
Dr. Uppal advised that hospitals need four things to achieve similar results: a commitment from the team and leadership to reduce infections; patience; making it easy for doctors to implement the new interventions; and periodic feedback.
The process may be tedious but worth it in the end, he said.
Dr. Uppal disclosed salary support from Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. A coauthor disclosed salary support from the company plus royalties from UpToDate. Dr. Park disclosed speaking for Allergan and royalties from UpToDate.
SOURCE: Uppal S et al. SGS 2020, Abstract 16.
This article originally appeared on MDedge.com.
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Phylogenetic Analyses of Novel Squamate Adenovirus Sequences in Wild-Caught Anolis Lizards
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Ascher, Jill M.
Geneva, Anthony J.
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© 2013 Ascher et al. This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited.
Adenovirus infection has emerged as a serious threat to the health of captive snakes and lizards (i.e., squamates), but we know relatively little about this virus' range of possible hosts, pathogenicity, modes of transmission, and sources from nature. We report the first case of adenovirus infection in the Iguanidae, a diverse family of lizards that is widely-studied and popular in captivity. We report adenovirus infections from two closely-related species of Anolis lizards (anoles) that were recently imported from wild populations in the Dominican Republic to a laboratory colony in the United States. We investigate the evolution of adenoviruses in anoles and other squamates using phylogenetic analyses of adenovirus polymerase gene sequences sampled from Anolis and a range of other vertebrate taxa. These phylogenetic analyses reveal that (1) the sequences detected from each species of Anolis are novel, and (2) adenoviruses are not necessarily host-specific and do not always follow a co-speciation model under which host and virus phylogenies are perfectly concordant. Together with the fact that the Anolis adenovirus sequences reported in our study were detected in animals that became ill and subsequently died shortly after importation while exhibiting clinical signs consistent with acute adenovirus infection, our discoveries suggest the need for renewed attention to biosecurity measures intended to prevent the spread of adenovirus both within and among species of snakes and lizards housed in captivity.
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Article Source: Phylogenetic Analyses of Novel Squamate Adenovirus Sequences in Wild-Caught Anolis Lizards Ascher JM, Geneva AJ, Ng J, Wyatt JD, Glor RE (2013) Phylogenetic Analyses of Novel Squamate Adenovirus Sequences in Wild-Caught Anolis Lizards. PLoS ONE 8(4): e60977. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0060977
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public void AddDocumentSet(
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    string docSetName,
    string mSISDN,
    string accountNumber,
    string hardCopyLocation,
    string verifiedBy,
    DateTime veriDate)
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    string documentName,
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{
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    Document.Field("Document Section 1\\Account").Value.ToString(),
    Document.Field("Document Section 1\\Hard Copy Location").Value.ToString(),
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No overload for method 'AddDocumentSet' takes '8' arguments (line 6, pos 1)
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I am not a C# rockstar but I have tried everything. rebuilt dll, rewriten the snippets again, but nothing helped. I hope someone could show me the right code.

A: Its just basic compilation errors:

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Pride – why it happens, why it matters and why Post Office
This Saturday, the City of London will be taken over with rainbow fever as the LGBT+ community take to the streets in protest and in celebration of the vibrancy of their community and to recognise their ongoing struggle for equality.
Among the celebrations and exuberance, you might spot a familiar looking lozenge – albeit with a rainbow takeover. Yes, on Saturday Post Office is taking part in Pride in London for the first time.
After tireless work from our Prism group, who have led the initiative from the start, the day is finally here. But why are we going and what does it all mean?
What is Pride?
LGBT+ Pride month happens in June every year to mark the Stonewall Riots which took place in Greenwich Village, New York in 1969.
There had been systematic oppression of the LGBT+ community in the USA for years, as members of the community were denied entry into many bars and social cubs. The Stonewall Inn was one of the few places members of the LGBT+ community to could socialise in. When police raided the club on 28 June the LGBT+ community rose up against police bigotry.
These riots are seen as being a pivotal moment in LGBT+ liberation and set the tone for other members of the LGBT community to stand up against prejudice.
Why is Pride still important?
The rights of members of the LGBT community have come a long way in most of the world. However, there are still 8 countries today where homosexuality is punishable by death, and 72 countries where it's criminalised.
And in the UK, LGBT+ people still face discrimination.
One in five LGBT+ people have experienced a hate crime in the last 12 months and four in five of those victims didn't report it to the police. Pride is an opportunity for members of the LGBT+ community to stand in solidarity with one another as they unite against hate.
Pride is a demonstration of the power and might of the LGBT+ community and recognises that there is still a long way to go until there is true equality on a global scale.
Why Post Office?
By taking part in Pride in London and sponsoring Bolton and Chesterfield Pride, we're part of something much larger than ourselves. The UK alone has more than 100 Pride events each year and globally there are over 65 countries who have some kind of Pride celebration.
And taking part in Pride has first and foremost been about our people, as we recognise our differences and celebrate that.
Pride in London is just the first in a series of Pride events – later in the summer we'll be going to Chesterfield and Bolton Prides as the main sponsors.
Nina Jones, who has led on the coordination of the Pride efforts from Prism said:
'I'm so proud of all the work that members of the Pride working group have done – all above and beyond their roles. It's been really rewarding to collaborate on a project that we are all so passionate about – and so many people have contributed their time and expertise. It's been almost a year of planning to get to this stage and it will be amazing to start off our participation with London on Saturday – and then on to Chesterfield and Bolton. I feel that this is an iconic moment for the Post Office!'
We are proud to share our commitment to ensuring everyone can bring their whole selves to work and by joining the wider LGBT+ community at Prides across the country we are doing just that.
Published 04-07-2018 by Charlotte Bliss
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Brushing teeth with a dark charcoal powder is a new trend. All the charcoal powders work more or less. Some formulas are very well done while others are mediocre, but as long as they have charcoal, your teeth will be white. However, some brands decided to add some extra ingredients to give a fresh breath or even help with teeth disease.
Charcoal whitening powder by Gemmaz is one of the most popular charcoal powder brands on the market. The company made sure that there are no harmful ingredients in the formula. They also use ingredients that will help with gum problems, tartar control, fresh breath, and overall teeth cleaning. And to tell you the truth they did a great job with this formula.
All ingredients are food graded which means if you accidentally swallow some of them it will not harm you in any way. But this does not mean you can take a spoon and start eating. Charcoal is actually ash, and small amounts of swallowed ash are no problem, but that does not mean you can start eating it out of habits. Because of that, I would still be safe and watch my kid when using any toothpaste including Gemmaz.
Coconut Activated Charcoal is the main ingredient that gives a black color to the formula. But thanks to the charcoal your teeth will be shining white. It is proven that charcoal has powers to remove stains and other unwanted marks on teeth.
Calcium carbonate is an essential ingredient that can remineralize teeth. It is a mineral with remineralization power, but it also has some teeth cleaning effect.
Sorbitol is just like xylitol, but we prefer xylitol over sorbitol. Both of them are sugar alcohols, but xylitol is proven to be beneficial to the teeth health. Why the Gemmaz chooses Sorbitol over Xylitol is the question that, only they know the answer. Maybe if they read this review, they send me an answer, and I would gladly share it with you.
Good old baking soda has many purposes, and one of them is cleaning. Baking soda can clean all kind of things including teeth. For a centuries people were using baking soda instead of chemical detergents but for some reason that has changed and now almost nobody uses baking soda for cleaning. Thanks to natural toothpaste brands baking soda is back in the toothpaste formula, and now again we can use a perfectly healthy ingredient to keep our teeth clean and shiny.
This ingredient is a bulking agent that will make sure toothpaste powder stays in original form. The debate on this ingredient is not white or black. It is a needed ingredient in the formula, but it has no any health or teeth benefits.
This herb is rarely found in toothpaste, but the scientist has some signs that it may prevent cancer and many other things. The herb is used in Chinese medicine, and because of that, I believe it has some health benefits to the teeth and your mouth.
This ingredient is included because of its properties to fight bacteria and fungi. But there is no proof that these properties are useful for human health, including teeth. But the primary purpose of this ingredient may be to fight bacteria and fungi that may grow in the toothpaste jar.
Flavors are needed in any toothpaste. You need to have a fresh breath and clean mouth after toothbrush and what is the better ingredient for that than a fresh mint flavor. Thank god it is derived naturally so you should not have any concerns about it being an artificially made flavor like many conventional toothpaste brands have.
Stevia is an excellent substitute for sugar. Toothpaste, as well as teeth cleaning powder, need to be sweet, how else are we going to clean our mouth for 3 minutes if the taste of the toothpaste is terrible.
Gemmaz did a fantastic job with the teeth whitening powder formula, and customers have recognized that. Many people all over the world use this powder to make their teeth white. It is a trendy brand among superstars. Superstars need to have perfect white clean teeth as all of them do have. And now you too know their secret.


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In light of the resurgence of the Me, Too movement, this week's goalWA.net "Off the Pitch" column by Ruth Nicholson is a re-publication of her article addressing sexual and other types of harassment and the three things needed to effectively uncover and address it. Ruth is the founder of GO!, a go-to expert resource for youth sports governance and operations.
We have a duty to keep the members of our sporting organizations safe from both internal and external threats. This includes players, coaches, parents, referees, and others with whom our clubs, leagues, and associations work.
How do you protect your members from harassment?
Within weeks of becoming the new director of coaching for a club, the male director was approached by multiple player moms offering sexual liaisons in return for preferential treatment for their children.
A young, male referee working in one of his first games was verbally accosted by parents who disagreed with his calls in a game played by 11-year-old girls.
A female coach, tasked with assigning players to teams by her male director of coaching (DoC), was fired after objecting when the DoC substituted his team assignments for hers and told unhappy players and parents that the assignments were hers.
When a DoC asked a national sports organization about where to submit a written complaint regarding a sexual harassment allegation, the response from the national staff member was "that is a good question" because there was no process in place to address it.
A belief that the person(s) to whom you report the incident will take you seriously.
A belief that the person(s) to whom you report the incident will do something about it.
A belief that you will not be punished or retaliated against for filing a complaint.
Our youth sports organizations need to have clear expectations for behavior, policies for promoting and enforcing that behavior, and a process for filing and fairly investigating complaints to protect both victims and the accused. While most of our clubs, leagues, and associations have disciplinary committees and processes for adjudicating incidents within the game on the field, too many have none for addressing allegations of harassment outside of the game or off the field.
Does your organization have a harassment policy, including one that covers sexual harassment?
Does your organization have a process for fairly investigating complaints?
Does your organization have the will to impose and enforce meaningful sanctions or penalties when appropriate?
For organizations that do not yet have an identified way to address harassment complaints, consider using your existing disciplinary process for game incidents to handle them. This offers an existing forum in which to investigate complaints and the opportunity to adapt the organization's internal processes to address harassment issues.
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YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK: SEATTLE CITY WORKERS GIVEN TIME OFF TO ATTEND ANTI-TRUMP RALLIES
April 28, 2017 April 28, 2017 by Breck Worsham, posted in Uncategorized
SEATTLE, WA — The city of Seattle has passed a resolution that permits city workers time off to attend anti-Trump protests.
The resolution, which passed unanimously this week (https://seattle.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3029606&GUID=632BC851-1321-4A05-865F-48335990330C&Options=Advanced&Search=&FullText=1), declares May 1 a "Day of Action" in which all city employees are encouraged to attend a series of anti-Trump protests instead of reporting to work.
Drafted by Council member Kshama Sawant, a member of the Socialist Alternative party, the mandate orders supervisors of city government departments to remind city workers that they can utilize the two days they receive per year for "days of faith and conscience," to attend the planned event.
A statement released by Sawant's office just before the vote read:
"I urge council members to approve this May Day resolution, which explicitly recognizes the right of city workers to take the day off and provides protection to city workers who may otherwise worry about retaliation. May Day has historically been an important day of action for worker and immigrant rights. It's especially significant this year, with immigrants, working people, labor unions, women, and the LGBTQ community under attack from Donald Trump. If Seattle is truly a Sanctuary City that supports immigrants and working people, then it should lead the way by enabling City employees to stand in solidarity with immigrants and all workers on May 1.
Further, I call on everyone who opposes Trump's bigoted, anti-worker agenda to participate in peaceful May Day activities, particularly the official May 1 Action Coalition march. Join our growing Resist Trump Coalition to actively organize and build the fightback against the billionaire class. Without workers' mental and physical labor no business can make profits and none of the productive forces of the world can be harnessed."
"It's clear when we organize, mobilize and fight, and when we strike together we can win," Sawant told her fellow members of city council just before voting took place.
"If we truly want to build a summer of resistance against Trump and the billionaire class," Sawant told Seattle's King5, an NBC affiliate, "then we will need disruptive action like shutting down airports, and shutting down highways."
When reached for comment, Seattle Mayor Ed Murray said he supports the idea of Seattle city workers attending the May Day protests, but criticized Sawant's calls to "fight".
"I think it would be unfortunate and perhaps even tragic for an elected official to encourage people to confront and engage in confrontation with the police department," Murray said of Sawant's comments during a press conference.
Washington State Patrol Captain Ron Mead took it a step further, calling Sawant's rhetoric "reckless and irresponsible."
"It's unsafe for both protesters and motorists alike, and we are simply not going to tolerate that unlawful behavior of trying to shut down the interstate or state highway systems," he told local radio station KIRO.
While all city employees are eligible for the day off and encouraged to attend, the time taken off for the event will reportedly be unpaid. When asked who will cover the needs of the city as employees attend the protest, a spokesperson for city council replied, "no comment".
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