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What We Know About Donald Sterling
Clippers owner has a history of alleged racist, sexist behavior.
ByLIZ FIELDS
Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling looks on during the second half of an NBA preseason basketball game between the Clippers and the Los Angeles Lakers in Los Angeles, Calif., Dec. 19, 2010.
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April 27, 2014— -- Donald Sterling is no stranger to controversy, even before the an audiotape recording was released purportedly of the Los Angeles Clippers owner making racist remarks in an argument with a woman.
Sterling has owned the team since 1981, making him the longest tenured owner in the NBA, and during that time has faced lawsuits and raised outrage over comments and his "unconventional behavior." This is not the first time he has been accused of racism.
The recording, released by TMZ on Friday, in which a man said to be Sterling asks a woman identified as his girlfriend, V. Stiviano (who is part black), not to publicly associate with African Americans even drew comment from President Obama.
The president called it "incredibly offensive," echoing the reactions of many NBA players and fans.
Oddly enough, Sterling had been scheduled to receive a lifetime achievement award from the NAACP next month, but the organization announced it is now withholding the honor from the longtime donor.
Born Donald Tokowitz in 1933, the son of immigrant parents, Sterling grew up in the low-income neighborhood of Boyle Heights in East Los Angeles.
He attended public schools and eventually Southwestern Law School, which he paid for by working as a salesman at a furniture shop, where he would meet and marry the owner's daughter, Rochelle. The pair have been married for over 50 years and have three children together.
When he was in his 20s, he changed his surname to Sterling; a name he believed people would have "confidence" in, a former coworker told Los Angeles magazine.
Sterling, who is Jewish, began his career a personal injury and divorce lawyer in 1961, and gradually moved into real estate where he amassed his fortune, which Forbes estimates to be $1.9 billion.
He acquire the San Diego Clippers in 1981, paying $12.7 million for the team. Three years later, the team moved to LA, and despite its historically poor performance, is now valued at $430 million.
During his time as the owner of the franchise, there have been numerous reports of eccentric behavior and lawsuits, most of which were settled privately, including sexual harassment cases like the one brought against Sterling in 1996 by a former employee named Christine Jaksy.
Although the LA chapter of the NAACP, which Sterling donates to, handed Sterling his first award in 2009, the controversial decision came amid accusations of racism in a suit brought against him by former Clippers general manager Elgin Baylor.
Sterling's attorneys denied the allegations in Baylor's discrimination suit, which claimed, among other things, that Sterling repeatedly told him his team was fielding "poor black boys from the South ... playing for a white coach." The case was later thrown out by a jury in 2011.
That same year, Sterling settled a race-based housing discrimination suit filed by the Justice Department for $2.7 million. Earlier in 2003, he was also involved in another federal suit in which he was accused of unfairly evicting minorities from his properties.
A sworn testimony by his property supervisor in the case alleged Sterling made racially charged comments against black people and Mexicans including, saying that "blacks in this building, they smell, they're not clean." The case was resolved in a private settlement in 2005, according to ESPN.
The NBA said it was investigating the latest allegations of racism made on the tape.
On Saturday, Clippers president Andy Roeser made a statement on Sterling's behalf, which did not confirm or deny the recording's authenticity, but maintained that the sentiments expressed are "not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings."
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In the last 18 months, this is the fourth time farmers are protesting in Delhi. Farmers attached to around 200 organisations have marched to the heart of the capital. Watch BusinessToday.In video to know more about their demands from the government.


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Peru plans to buy additional C-27J transport aircraft and more
Peruvian Air Force C-27J.
Peru is considering buying new fixed-wing and rotary-wing transport aircraft to strengthen the capacity of the Fuerza Aérea del Peru (Peruvian Air Force) in humanitarian relief operations.
According to defensa.com, the purchase list includes additional Leonardo C-27J Spartan and Viking Air DHC-6 Series 400 planes, as well as several Mil Mi-17 helicopters.
The Peruvian Air Force plans to strengthen its current fleet of four Spartans by adding two more by the end of 2020 and another six over the next three years. In addition, the Peruvian Army is looking at the type to replace its old three Antonov An-32B transport aircraft.
The C-27J is a key aircraft for the Peruvian Air Force, currently it is used in several roles such as humanitarian assistance, medical evacuations, monitoring of illegal activities and support to firefighting duties in remote areas.
The Fuerza Aérea del Peru has successfully flown over 6,400 hours with their Spartans since the first aircraft landed at the International Jorge Chavez airport in Lima, home of the FAP Grupo Aereo N°8, in March 2015.
In these 6,400 flight hours the C-27J has met the most challenging conditions moving between coastal areas at 19°C to forests at 38°, to mountains at 5°C, landing smoothly on semi-prepared strips at either 100 feet or 11,500 feet above sea level.
These multiple capabilities have made the Spartan an indispensable aircraft for Peru which must often face emergencies of various kinds.
If all the planned acquisitions of Peru are successful, the nation will become the largest operator of C-27J Spartan.
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"Grrruuuuk, guk, guk, guk, guk," said the momma Dusky Grouse to me. The hen was "grousing" about my presence in her berry patch and was clucking to her half-grown summer chicks. They stepped crisply into the brush and disappeared completely from view even as the adult bird hopped up onto a boulder to act as sentinel.
Called "fool hens" by settlers, it is exactly this behavior of the adult birds that made them easy targets. Unlike turkeys–and pretty much anything else–it is pretty easy to approach a sentinel bird, especially in late Summer or early Fall when coveys are family groups. The hen kept clucking, but didn't leave her post even as I moved slowly to within twenty feet of her. Eventually she flew down into the brush, but only after the chicks had long gone from view.
Dusky Grouse (Dendragapus obscurus) are native to the Rocky Mountains and the only mountain grouse in New Mexico. Until 2006, they were lumped with the blacker Sooty Grouse of the Pacific coast and together known as Blue Grouse. DNA studies now suggest they are actually distinct species although they are very similar in behavior and other characteristics. They are the third largest of the grouse family–about the size and shape of Bantam hens, and have much the same upright posture and deliberate, head-bobbing walk. Their beautifully patterned, blue-gray plumage makes them nearly impossible to spot unless they move or cluck. When startled, they can fly but seem to prefer to run for cover–they are much stronger runners than flyers.
Courtship displays by the males are a series of low, almost inaudible (to human ears) hoots made with a flared tail and brightly-colored, naked neck patches like retractable billboards advertising the male's finer qualities. (See a short, excellent youtube flick of the related "sooty" male courtship display HERE.) After mating, the males no longer keep the company of the hens who scrape a shallow nest on the ground, lay and hatch out 4-9 eggs. Like chickens and other "precocious" birds, the hen doesn't feed the chicks which are born fuzzy and scamper around on their own within minutes of hatching.
Grouse eat lots of insects as chicks, but their adult diet favors berries and a surprising amount of conifer buds and needles. Grouse are usually found at lower elevation during mating and nesting season, then travel up into higher country during the Winter. Mixed conifer woods near stream side vegetation or meadows where there are lots of food choices are good places for seeing grouse.
I would wager money that most hikers never see these birds even though they are relatively plentiful. They don't like company, shun most trafficked areas, and blend in with their surroundings so well that it is easy to walk by unless listening for the tell-tale "grousing". If you walk slowly and quietly in grouse country, though, perhaps you'll be lucky enough for your own encounter with a "fool hen".
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You know, KD, this blog is really therapeutic for someone who's stuck indoors for the day, and inspirational for people who might need a little nudge to break out of such a rot. Love the natural history pieces.
Thanks Truchacabra! It's great fun really. And a very good excuse for sharing some of the photos I've taken which otherwise might molder away somewhere.


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"Fewer" vs. "Less"
This Grammar.com article is about "Fewer" vs. "Less" — enjoy your reading!
Nine Items or Fewer
A couple of adjectives cause many writers a lot of trouble: less vs. fewer. Let's straighten out the problems.
Write with fewer lesses.
Many writers confuse fewer and less, usually using less when they mean fewer. Let's review the differences between these words so that you can use each with precision.
Less vs. Fewer, Singular or Plural Nouns
Notice that fewer and less are adjectives. Necessarily, they modify nouns. Right off the bat, we can identify a key difference between the two words: The word less modifies singular nouns, while fewer modifies plural nouns.
Let's look at examples of each adjective when they modify tangible nouns, stuff you can pick up and see:
Less Singular Noun Sentence
less salt His doctor advised him to use less salt.
less milk Also, he should drink less milk.
less food Overall, he should eat less food.
Fewer Plural Noun Sentence
fewer packets of salt He should ask for fewer packets of salt.
fewer glasses of milk He should drink fewer glasses of milk.
fewer items of food He bought fewer than nine items of food.
Of course, the nouns modified by fewer and less can be abstractions or other intangibles, stuff you can't pick up and see. Again, follow the rule of modifying singular nouns with less and plural nouns with fewer:
less alcohol These days, people consume less alcohol.
less whispering The teacher urged less whispering.
less discovery The defendant wanted less discovery.
fewer bottles of wine People now order fewer bottles of wine.
fewer whispers The teacher asked for fewer whispers.
fewer documents The defendant wanted to produce fewer documents.
Less vs. Fewer, Count Nouns
But the singular-plural distinction goes only so far. I could not, for example, say, I should eat less cookie. So the singular noun has some special trait prompting its need for less. As a rule, it will describe something that cannot be easily counted. Thus, the singular nouns milk, medicine, and asphalt are very tangible and capable of some sort of measurement, but the nouns themselves are not susceptible to any kind of tally. So you would want to drink less milk, take less medicine, and purchase less asphalt.
But if you take these nouns and identify units of measurements, then you'll need to turn to fewer when you want to drink fewer ounces of milk, take fewer pills, and purchase fewer tons of asphalt.
Think of the noun modified as being one of two types: (1) either you can count them or (2) or you can't, because the noun is naming an amount or chunk of something.
Less vs. Fewer, Express Check-Out Lines
Think of a grocery cart (one of those with only three wheels working). When you look in other people's shopping carts, it looks as if they have a big blob of food in there. But actually they have separate items—items you can count . . . items you do count in the express check-out lane.
Most grocery stores botch it in their express-lane signs when they say, Fifteen Items or Less. In my experience, only Safeway gets it right: Fifteen Items or Fewer. You can—and do—count the 25 items the jerk in front of you has in his basket as he checks out in the express lane. He doesn't have less than fifteen items. He is supposed to have fewer than fifteen items.
Complain to your store manager and point out how the grocery store is further eroding the knowledge of grammar in America. And while you're at it, urge the manager first to edit and second to enforce the store's fifteen-items-or-fewer rule.
When the noun is uncountable, chances are it's an amount or chunk of something, or just a bunch of stuff you never think of counting and perhaps couldn't count if you tried: less salt, less sand, less ambiguity. But: fewer grains of salt, fewer grains of sand, fewer ambiguities.
So remember: Use less for singular nouns that are kind of chunky and fewer for plural nouns naming things you can count.
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Fewer vs. Less -Time and Money
Less Money, Less Time
You'll encounter a big exception to these less-singular and fewer-plural rules. Sometimes a plural noun is describing something that's chunky—a singular amount. Consider time and money. You will often describe an amount of time with a plural noun, e.g., years. Here, the use of less is correct:
He earned his degree in less than four years.
Here we are not counting years. We're measuring an amount or chunk of time. He might have earned his degree in three years and eleven months. The expression fewer years would fail to describe three years and eleven months. What would we mean if we used fewer?
He earned his degree in fewer than four years.
This must mean that he earned his degree in either three years, or two years, or just one year. Those are the only measurements that could possibly be fewer than four years. Increments between those yearly milestones are not within the meaning of fewer than four years. Thus, we're not counting the years. Instead, we're using a plural noun to name a singular amount of time. Use of less, therefore, is correct.
Money, too, is rather chunky. Here, the use of less is correct as well:
The court has jurisdiction of cases involving less than 10,000 dollars.
We're not counting dollars. Instead, we're pegging a single amount. So even though dollars is a plural noun, it actually states a chunk, an amount—a noun properly described by less.
If you are counting units of time, however, you should use fewer. In the following example, we are specifying exact numbers of days, not a chunk or set amount of time:
The statute requires our response in not fewer than 10 or more than 20 days.
Thus, in a word, use less when you cannot count the noun modified. Use fewer when you can. Use less with singular nouns; fewer, with plural nouns. But if you're using a plural noun to measure a chunk or amount of money or time, then you should use less (less than five years, less than 2,500 dollars).
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Hassan Ali
Less than 10 people or Fewer than 10 people
Linh Ly
Thanks for all the information given to us. But could you help me with this? I know that "much, far, a lot" can be used to modify "less" which functions as adverb, but could we use: much, far, a lot to modify "less" which functions as adjective in "less water" or we could use all "much, far, a lot"? Thanks a lot more »
Joan Sutton
oh my gods this is complex!
It is correct to write What food should be eaten fewer?
Daniel Pena Júnior
Hi Patrick, At a second thought, it sounds better to say "What food should be avoided?"
Tamer Tarhan
Daniel Pena Júnior in my humble opinion avoidance and lessening are two seperate occasions on that matter. like "you should reduce the sugar consumption" in that context whereas, "too much salt should be avoided" will work better on that particular context. forgive me if I'm way off course, english is my 2nd language :3 ps: I'm well aware that this was posted 2 years ago, I just happened to stumble upon it randomly =D more »
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Many people suffer from this common nuisance called burning headache every day, in some cases which can even last for days. Burning headache is not a medically recognized term if you were to look around in medical journals and clinical documents, but it's pretty much commonly used. There are many different causes of burning headache, and different people have different parts of the head which aches. Besides, there are also many different causes of this headache, some of which we will be looking at today.
In many instances, burning headache is related to sinusitis. In that case, the pain is usually on the frontal part of the head, on the forehead, upper cheeks, and sometimes can even travel around the whole face. In other cases, this burning headache can be caused by fever. In this, the pain is usually on both sides of the forehead, which are the weakest points of sensitivity in our head.
As we have already known, the common reasons for burning headache would be fever, flu, and sinusitis. In these cases, the pain is constant, and can be stinging and tingling, and not to mention burning. It can originate from any side of the head, but usually after a while it will travel to other areas as well.
Some people tend to get thrusts of extreme pains. Although medically there is no proof as to what causes this sudden uprising in the burning headache symptoms, it is believed to be caused by pulsating nerves due to tension.
Burning headache can also be caused by certain other reasons besides the above listed. These are more serious cases such as tumors or growth in the head. In such cases, the pain is not constant like the ones listed above, but comes on and off. The pain is usually violent, far stronger than the ones you get for fever, and not to forget; it pulsates often.
It is also believed that toxins and chemicals can also cause acute or burning headache. This is pretty common to many people, especially those who are not so favorable of newly painted houses, chemical labs, and so on. On top of these, even certain edible toxins and foods can cause burning headache, such as alcohol, caffeine, and so on.


The largest item on the chopping block was the estimated $2.4 million annual cost of providing non-urgent health care to illegal immigrants.
"There are no good choices at this point. Everything (that is cut) is going to hurt someone," said Sacramento County 4th District Supervisor Roberta MacGlashan.
At least, for once, U.S. citizens dont get the short end of the stick in a budget cut.
This is a good sign - hope the rest of our beleaguered counties follow suit soon!
The fuse has been lit! Ba Bye Illegals.
Congratulations, this is great news. Now if the rest of Cali, Illinois, Florida, Az, Tx and the rest of the sanctuaries would get a clue, the US just might survive.
Things are becoming quite bad for illegal aliens here in Arizona.
As for California: when the hammer falls there-----------it will be ruthless for want of a better word. I still keep having that premonition.
Asch said the ACLU is pondering legal action against Sacramento County following Wednesday's budget cuts.
Well, there's the good ole ACLU at work again. The article states that the ACLU says it's unconstitutional to stop providing non-emergency health care to illegal aliens. Now tell me folks....just WHERE in our Constitution does it say we have to provide illegal aliens with non-emergency health care??
The ACLU has become a festering boil on the butts of Americans.
Them and the "US" Chamber of Commerce. The constitution just like the 14th amendment have been deliberately hijacked to reflect the desires of the corporate masters, the ethnocentric racists and those who are determined to cram their globalist agendas down our throats.
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"The ACLU opposes the measure, saying it is unconstitutional and a "bad policy."
"The ACLU is pondering legal action against Sacramento County following Wednesday's budget cuts."
In my opinion, all these groups are saying, give us your country and your money OR we will sue you! See, what happens when you let illegal aliens breed in your country, you get a bunch of Anchor Babies sucking up Welfare, who get special educational needs and free college educations and then they turn around and bite the hand that fed them. They're not assimilating, they're trying to take over.
Did they change anything about the law that requires hospitals to treat illegals? That has to also be done or else they'll just demand that doctors and hospitals eat the costs of providing free treatment.
Wow. An act of common sense? Is this a joke?!!!


The Paul Ryan pick obviously matters politically and on substance. But specifically for education does it matter much? Some people seem to think so, for instance the usually cautious Rick Hess is all excited about the Paul Ryan VP pick (and apparently getting paid a bonus for each time he uses the phrase "serious") and thinks it portends big news for education. OK, Paul Ryan is chairman of the House Budget Committee, so by definition proposals he puts out are "serious" in a way that the latest Ron Paul missive is not. But serious and workable or likely to happen are two different things.
1) This was a big picture political pick not an education one. It's a tacit admission by the Romney campaign that although the election is tight things are not going their way and they needed to shake things up and change the argument to a discussion about hard fiscal choices. Despite all the certitude, it might work. Too soon to tell. But one thing is for certain, it was a pick with little to do with education. There were others under consideration with stronger education credentials. You want to make a point on reform there is Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal. About public sector reform? New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. And besides, would any campaign advisor argue that an education pick would be a game-changer in this election (or almost any other national contest)?
2) The big spending action in the budget fight is entitlements not education. This visualization of the budget from The New York Times shows why. Sure, we'll hear rhetoric about cuts to education and so forth but the big picture fiscal problem is driven by two primary issues that will be the underlying focus of this fall's debate: Entitlement spending and revenue (taxes). It's also worth nothing that the mismatch between revenue and spending and the growth of entitlements is the bigger threat to education spending (and other discretionary domestic spending) right now over the long term. One thing Ryan will likely do is take that conversation to a level of specifics that's been lacking, that's hardly bad, there are big choices facing the country. But the math (political math and actual numbers) simply doesn't support the idea that there is not a revenue component here, too, and that will impact education in any deal.
3) Despite any of that, Conservatives, too, have a poor record of fiscal restraint or shrinking government anyway. Remember, government grew under President Reagan as well as more recently under President Bush. You don't hear about that part of the Reagan myth (although Ron Paul did raise it during the Republican debate at the Reagan Library….reaction…clunk!). Contemporaneously Margaret Thatcher, too, failed to put a dent in the public sector. There are plenty of reasons for that but if you're going to lose sleep you probably should over the idea that politicians will do little or nothing and aggravate an untenable situation not that they will take a budget axe to education spending. Overall, for decades the (upward) trajectory of education spending was really threatened only by the fiscal crisis of the past few years – and even that is ebbing. And at the federal level spending grew during the downturn as a part of a stimulus effort. There are a bunch of reasons for that – built in cost escalators, opaqueness, politics, special interests – but it's the unmistakable trend. Perhaps circumstances are perceived to be dire enough now that things will be different should Romney and Ryan win in November, but I wouldn't bet on it.
4) There is still a Senate. Even if Romney wins, barring a Republican landslide in November, budgets will still be negotiated not decreed and that puts dampers on a lot of this, and again, education isn't where the big dollars are.
"But one thing is for certain, it was a pick with little to do with education." Genius. VP has never, ever, been about education. Not even a little. Education policy is a card that gets played in other arenas, not the VP. Americans do not really care that much about education. The number of Muslim terrorists who can stand on the end of a sound bite are of much more import to the masses, or at least FOX News [sic].
It might be an improvement over the $$$Billions that I see each week from http://www.ed.gov grants going out of the US. What a novel idea – http://www.ed.gov grants in the United States! Just our tax dollars at work.


Among men of color, Hispanic males are two times more likely to have a fatal interaction with the police in neighborhoods that have a high percentage of Hispanic residents, according to a new study.
The research also indicates police agencies with more Hispanic officers are associated with higher odds of Hispanic fatalities.
The results suggest that even the most diverse police forces are not exempt from the need for reforms within their ranks, according to study coauthor Chris St. Vil, an assistant professor in the University at Buffalo School of Social Work.
"We should be taking a closer look at specific neighborhood mechanisms and police agency characteristics in order to better understand this crisis," says St. Vil, an expert in trauma, violence, and victimization.
Those mechanisms include unemployment rates, high school dropout statistics, education levels, and population, according to St. Vil.
The research is the first to merge a crowd-sourcing data set with a nationally representative sample of law enforcement agencies contained in the Bureau of Justice Statistics Law Enforcement Management and Administrative Statistics (LEMAS).
For the current study, the researchers used two publicly accessible databases: fatalencounters.org and killedbypolice.net. They merged these sources with the data provided by nearly 2,800 police agencies in the LEMAS survey to explore how fatal interactions with police from May 1, 2013 to January 1, 2015 vary across racial and ethnic groups and the role played by neighborhood and agency characteristics.
"We acknowledge the issues that might call crowdsourcing into question, but we wouldn't have to use that data set if the feds were doing their job," he says.
The research appears in Social Science and Medicine.


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The Seahawks never know what to do with first-round picks, so imagine the problem they had Thursday when they had two of them back to back and their only real goal was to expand the rest of their draft.
The Seahawks had two picks, and yet it felt like they had no plan for them — other than to bail out as much as possible to add more selections. And they didn't do that very well either, failing to add a Day 2 selection (beyond the one their first-rounder became).
There's a reason the Hawks usually trade out of the first round: When they stay, they typically use the pick on a second-round player anyway. They've now picked five players in the first round since 2011, and four of them have had second-round grades by most draft analysts. The Hawks have to hope L.J. Collier is a better version of Bruce Irvin (a first-round reach who had eight sacks as a rookie).
8:45 p.m.: Picking at 29 and 30, the Seahawks used 29 to draft TCU pass rusher L.J. Collier and moved out of the 30th spot, dropping to 37th and getting a fourth and fifth from the Giants.
Most of the top pass rushers were gone after the Hawks traded down from 21; their only other options were offensive linemen or cornerbacks. But they wanted to make sure they got a pass rusher.
Collier was considered a second-round prospect (ranked in the 50s) and didn't really fit Seattle's athletic profile, but he's strong and versatile and has been compared to Michael Bennett.
How might Hawks use newfound draft ammo?
The Frank Clark trade, as controversial as it was, has given the Seahawks tons of flexibility in the next two drafts.
They have two first-round selections this year and 17 choices over the next two (counting projected comp picks). So what is Seattle's strategy?
Based on John Schneider's comments Monday about the talent dropping off after the third round, you can bet they are going to try to amass four or five picks in the first two days — and use two of those on pass rushers.
Schneider finally gets value for a star, but will he make it count?
For the first time in his tenure with the Seahawks, John Schneider reeled in marquee value for one of his stars. But now the pressure is on to replace him.
Schneider traded Frank Clark to Kansas City for a first-round pick and a 2020 second-rounder (with a swap of 2019 thirds), and Seattle now has two first-round picks — 21 and 29 overall — plus overall picks 92, 124, 159.
Their 2020 draft is now projected to include 12 picks, thanks to this deal and comps: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7.