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Bill Nye's Latest Climate Warning: The US Will Have To Grow Its Food In Canada
Charles Rotter / January 31, 2019
From The Daily Caller
Michael Bastasch | Energy Editor
Bill Nye "the Science Guy" has another global warming prediction — Americans will have to grow their food in Canada if nothing is done to limit temperature rise.
"The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don't have the infrastructure," Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.
"We don't have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world," Nye warned.
Bill Nye says global warming will mean America needs to grow its crops in Canada:
"The agriculture is going to have to move north into what would normally be Canada and we don't have the infrastructure, the roads and railroads to get food from that area to where we need it." pic.twitter.com/aoazDTHu9N
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) January 30, 2019
Nye made his remarks as freezing temperatures descended over much of Canada and the U.S., bringing below-zero temperatures across the Midwest and Great Plains. When wind chill is factored in, it really feels like -53 degrees Fahrenheit to Minnesota residents.
It's officially really, really, really cold in Minnesota. #PolarVortex 🥶 pic.twitter.com/z6RgL4GNI5
— KARE 11 (@kare11) January 30, 2019
In Chicago, the temperature hit -22 degrees Wednesday morning, with a wind chill of -47 degrees. Officials are warning residents to stay indoors and avoid the dangerous cold.
Television personality Bill Nye poses at the 2017 Creative Arts Emmy Awards in Los Angeles, California, U.S. September 9, 2017. REUTERS/Danny Moloshok
More than 220 million Americans are experiencing below-freezing temperatures across the lower-48 states, according to meteorologist Ryan Maue. About 26 million people are living with temperatures at or below -20 degrees.
At 8 AM, the cold across the Lower 48 left 225 Million at/below freezing including the Florida panhandle.
26 Million at/below than -20°F including Chicago.#PolarVortex2019 pic.twitter.com/cfAJNrlO6B
— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) January 30, 2019
Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been "hoodwinked" into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.
"I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they've been hoodwinked," Nye said. "They've been led astray by this group of like-minded people who feel that the economic effects of getting away from fossil fuels are going to be catastrophic, but that is just simply not true."
However, coal and natural gas are providing roughly 80 percent of the electricity needed to keep the power and heat on in the Midwest, according to the Midcontinent Independent System Operator that manages the grid.
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January 31, 2019 in Ridiculae. Tags: agriculture, Bill Nye, Canada, ryan maue
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223 thoughts on "Bill Nye's Latest Climate Warning: The US Will Have To Grow Its Food In Canada"
Louis Hooffstetter says:
In comedy and politics, timing is everything.
Rich Davis says:
Let's put Bill Ney in a Little House on the Tundra and let him live off the crops he grows and stay warm at -30C using 20% of the needed energy. He can talk to us in ten years about how we have been hoodwinked.
-19C this morning in the balmy Connecticut rain forest.
Hugs says:
Nye in a warming world, say the Hudson Bay, for a year, growing his crops there. I"ll offer the seed potatoes.
PS. I'll also provide the shots to the polar bear self-defence tool of his choice.
He could share it in youtube to improve the public recognition of the issue. Most people don't know how much it has warmed there.
Gerald Machnee says:
But there will not be any bears.
No bears because they froze to death on the way to the Beer Store…D'OH !
-23F overnight; -22F at 05:30AM in NE Illinois. We're not dead yet and the morning constellation of Venus -> Moon->Jupiter is spectacular.
I will put out high-calorie birdfood in about 2 hours. Lots of field sparrows, juncos, house (English) sparrows, tree sparrows yesterday. Hungry little things. Birdfood is on sale at Ace Hdw on a twofer. I'll go back next week.
And Mr. Nye is way out of his depth in making predictions. He must be desperate for attention AGAIN!
OK, this isn't funny anymore…..When it's too cold and miserable to go get a Timmie's, life sucks….I knew I should have stayed in Florida but Alley Goree promised me that Canada was going to be a tropical paradise …Now i'm stuck with 800 acres of frozen trees and a bunch of Ligmite mines surrounded by a bunch of puddles full of stoopid Walleye!…sheeeeesh ! : ]
"-23F overnight; -22F at 05:30AM in NE Illinois. "
Oh, so you are the warm area…. ; )
Yes. This is why all the birds come to my house, and the local squirrels. They know where the good stuff is located. 🙂
Andy Pattullo says:
He's right – up here in Canada we have no infrastructure. All that wheat we grow is brought to market in covered wagons, and since we haven't invented the wheel yet we have to drag those wagons along rough dirt tracks by mule train. Americans should be so thankful they have the benefit of Bill Nye's insightful commentary to guide them on the road to socio-economic suicide.
"Ice Road Conestogas"?
Sounds like the next "The Storm Channel" show!
Linda Cook says:
Andy Pattullo, you forgot to mention that we also live in Igloos here in Canada. We are a very hardy people!
Pillage Idiot says:
I like your idea, but since Bill Nye is a "Science Guy" lets set him up with an important experiment.
Put him in southern Greenland and give him some barley and early Iron Age technology. No sea hunting for him, because he does not come from sturdy Viking stock.
Does anybody really think there has been enough "unprecedented" warming for him to survive in those conditions?
Glen Haas says:
Good comments:
There is nothing wrong with growing crops in Canada, but we are limited on what different crops will effectively grow there. Mr Nye continues to show his ignorance on Climate and Climate Change and Global Warming. Climate Changes all of the time based on the designs of mother nature. The Globe warms and cools all of the time with our sun and oceans being the main control knobs. CO2 is a very low volume (410 ppm) GHG that is the fertilizer of life.
The rural temperature record of the last 100 years shows virtually no significant temperature increase, with the only "implied" increases coming from the "adjusted" temperature data that did not need to be adjusted. Do we think that Mr. Nye every looks at the "unmanipulated" data?
Trebla says:
Hey Bill, I'm a Canadian. Just walk in. Don't bother ringing!
vukcevic says:
My close relative from Toronto who spends every winter in Fort Lauderdale, has just put an offer on 10 hectares in Yellow Knife to build banana plantation.
I've already started my Pineapple trees in Iron Bridge area, (way way North of Toronto) right next to my Avocado field…Just look for the big white patch on Google maps..you can't miss it.. LOL
We Canadians are going to need a wall at our southern border!
Ice Wall ?
Bob Greene says:
Yes because Winter is Coming
Actually, I think the last book has been canceled..
RockyRoad says:
With Trdeau's insane immigration policies, I suspect you'll get your southern neighbors to help you build it!
Farmer Ch E retired says:
Didn't you know? The wall on Canada's side has been completed.
https://oddstuffmagazine.com/funny-pictures-february-12-2017.html/the-wall-on-canadas-side
Richard Greene says:
When the Americans get hungry enough,
they'll come to the new 15 foot walls,
between the US and Canada,
with 16 foot ladders,
and climb over the walls,
to steal Canadian food.
Menicholas says:
I thought ladders were what the razor wire, second fence, land mines, and auto firing machine gut turrets, were for?
We really need to get that edit button back on line here.
ALLAN MACRAE says:
Has Trudeau Destroyed Canada's Resource Future? – Rex Murphy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_toqPJpyeGw&app=desktop
Rex Murphy of Newfoundland is a national treasure. He speaks common sense with reason and passion.
Rex said: "We mis-value the things that count" and he is correct – Canada is on the road to becoming another starving Venezuela due to leftist government lunacy – and it is the same road that the Progressive Democrats want to take the USA.
I wrote the following in 2018:
Here is how modern politics works:
The far-left is winning, especially in the developing world – over half the countries in the world are pseudo-Marxist dictatorships, based on their leftist phony rhetoric, but are actually just military dictatorships, run for the ruling elite and their armed thugs – see Zimbabwe and Venezuela… and North Korea, Cuba, the Soviet Union countries and many more..
The left gains political power by promising imbeciles lots of free stuff. Then they destroy the economy, create widespread poverty and live like kings atop a ruined state – because you can't be kings without lots of peasants. Venezuela and Zimbabwe used to be wealthy countries – look at them now. Look at North Korea vs South Korea. Compare Cuba to neighboring island nations.
It is really no different in the developed world. Get elected by lazy greedy imbeciles, destroy the economy with fake green energy and other crazy policies, and live like kings on top of a ruined economy, looking down on all the peasants.
The anti-pipeline thugs have cost Canada over $120 billion to date in lost oil revenues. Nobody is that stupid, including Justin and his advisors – they are deliberately harming our economy. The destruction of Canada's economy by the far left is no accident – this is their plan.
I wish WUWT had a like button…10,000 likes anyhoo…..
Even if you read nothing else, read Rex Murphy. One of the best BS detectors on the planet.
Samuel C Cogar says:
This is both "sick" comedy and politics combined, to wit:
"Nye told MSNBC host Chris Matthews Tuesday night.
"The agriculture in North America is going to have to move north into what would nominally be Canada and we don't have the infrastructure,"
"We don't have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world," Nye warned. "
What the ell does "railroads and roads" have to do with transporting food products from US and Canada to other countries around the world? Building a few bridges across the Bering Strait from Alaska to Russia would solve Nye's delusional/insanity problem.
But not completely, to wit:
" Nye also told Matthews rural Americans have been "hoodwinked" into believing getting rid of fossil fuels would hurt the economy.
"HA", …. I assume Nye is actually claiming that "green energy" can exclusively be used for transporting all food products within the boundaries of the US and Canada, as well as from the US and Canada to all other parts of the world.
Me thinks the food would spoil and/or people would be starving to death waiting for those electrically powered "green " cars, trucks, trains and boats to arrive with their food orders
Retired_Engineer_Jim says:
I had trouble with "… what would nominally be Canada …". Why wouldn't it just be Canada, just like it is now?
Maybe he's expecting the US to annex it. Turn it into Northern Montana.
Malcolm Carter says:
In the tweet it says 'normally' Canada. Still ominous. If I was one of those conspiracy guys it sounds like there is a plan underway to create a new star on the flag.
Yes, I also noticed that discrepancy. I would say that in the video clip he says' nominally'. As to why he pu in the word 'nominally', perhaps it's all part and parcel of the Greater Movement for Word Government. Once this is successful, every country will become 'nominally' as , in reality, there won't any longer be separate countries.
Nominally and normally mean the same thing in this context.
But neither make any sense whatsoever.
And how long does it take to build and/or widen roads?
How soon is he predicted the US will be unable to grow food?
Is he aware that the US spans 10 or more growing zones?
And in places like CA and FL we can grow multiple crops in a year, because it is…wait for it…really hot?
This guy beclowns himself every time he flaps his jaws.
If we had anything like a same person in the MSM, this jackass would be a laughing stock.
As far as I can tell, the only thing he is an expert at, is exaggerating even the laughable claims of warmista "scientists".
Dan Sudlik says:
He must be right. I saw a flock of geese heading north yesterday.
You sure it wasn't a flock of cows heading north via a round trip to the moon?
The "best" thing about being a leftist,
is that stupid head leftists
can get a lot of attention!
Such as Bill Nye, and AOC !
For the subject of climate science,
all you have to do is ignore the science,
and make a scary prediction of climate doom,
to enter the three-decade old
"climate change campfire story contest",
where the fairy tales are 100%
… 100% wrong.
I believe in real climate science, but
want to get more attention from leftists,
so I'm working on a fairy tale, er, study,
where climate change causes man's
favorite organ to shrink —
I'm sure that will get published
… unless someone beat me to it !
My climate science blog,
for sensible people who
don't care about wild guess
predictions of a coming
climate catastrophe …
except to refute them:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com
Phil R says:
The "best" thing about being a leftist, is that stupid head leftists can get a lot of attention!
That's one of the funniest but most direct statements I've seen in a long time. I don't use ROFLMAO much, but the only reason I can type this response is that I didn't spit my wine all over the keyboard.
I'm stealing that quote!
Think I messed up some of my tags, but you get the gist.
One day we have Occasional Alexandra's the end of the world and next day Bill Nye said Canada will turn into tropical paradise.
I wonder what are these people smoking before breakfast?
Canadian pineapple!
Caligula Jones says:
I no more need a TV host's expertise on agriculture than a fish needs a bicycle.
Goldrider says:
It's a good day for Bill Nye to demonstrate "climate change" by licking a railroad track. 😉
Damn, I wish there was a "like" button. 🙂
WooHoo , I'm gonna be rich ! I knew my grampa had a good idea when he bought all that frozen 800 acres of tundra just north of Sudbury, Ontario instead of paying for my university..Now I can sell all my prefrozen peas,carrots,taters,tomatoes and kiwi fruit to the brainless masses…. D'OH !
As a person south of the border, isn't Sudbury a big mining area? Studied geology a long time ago, but forgot most of it.
Nicholas William Tesdorf says:
In a few years, Bill Nye will be getting all his frozen vegetables from Canada.
goldminor says:
+10 … beat me to it
Dang permanent moderation sucks…lol
I was browsing videos on YouTube some while back and stumbled on one labelled "10 people who claim to be experts but are not", or something like that, and guess who was at the top of the list? Bill Nye. He's not a climate expert. Gosh! Shock! Horror! I had a bit of a laugh about that.
Dave N says:
I stopped watching after the presenter misrepresented Trump's bankruptcies (e.g. the relative number against how many businesses he had an interest in), and completely ignored Trump's successes. If he was being so one-sided about that, he was possibly leaving out buckets of other details.
Pamela Matlack-Klein says:
And Nye is totally ignorant about agriculture as well as weather/climate. I love how he casually says that the US will move farming operations north into what would normally be Canada…any thoughts about what the Normal Canadians think about that little bit of aggression?
Help your self to anything north of the 60th parallel. There aren't any more Polar Bears left and you shouldn't have any problems with your tractors and combines on the tundra.
GREG in Houston says:
Well, he said "nominally" Canada, not "normally." Nominal means "in name only," so I guess the US is going to invade so we can grow more wheat to ship around the world.
In engineering, nominally means normally.
In other contexts, it has other definitions: Nominal can mean "in name only" and similar usage; to refer to the name of something; insignificantly small or trifling; normal or as specified; not adjusted to inflation; relating to a noun; and a few others.
None make sense as used in the sentence from Nye.
Of course "nominally" makes sense. Once the UN has implemented their climate agenda (with the complicit help of the Democrats), ALL countries will only exist nominally (i.e. in name only).
The only thing Nye is an expert in is self promotion.
Because everyone knows food can't be grown at the equator…
Indeed. And everyone knows Greenland is called green because the Vikings thought they could farm there.
Well, Nye is not exactly Viking.
Paul Blase says:
Well, they could, at the time.
Why is he called the "Science Guy"? What "science" is he talking about?
David Lentz says:
Bill Nye's only earned degree is in Mechanical Engineering.
Non Nomen says:
So he knows how to screw up things.
Hivemind says:
Apparently he once ran a TV show about science for easily impressionable American children.
Mr. Wizard actually introduced children into science.
Bill Nye's intro was more along the lines of "Wham, Bang, Thank you, Ma'am!" science.
Lots of flash and confusion. Not coherent.
In the morning, you're sure not what happened but you're left with with the feeling he won't be around in 9 months.
Greg61 says:
He failed at engineering which was his education, tried stand up comedy. I guess someone thought he must have taken a few science courses in engineering school + entertainment background = good enough to fake it as a scientist on a tv show for kids.
Frosted conflakes! Yum!
It once was a pleasure to watch Bill Nye.
but these days have long gone by.
Too young to remember Mr. Wizard?
Yep. But just a little bit.
Ron Long says:
Bill Nye, the bow tie makes me look like the Science Guy, needs to think about some basics. The circum-polar earth is 40,000 kilometers, so 10,000 kilometers equator to pole. If equator averages 30C and pole -30C we get a change of 60C, or 166 kilometers per degree C change. Sure there are other factors, one of them being increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere makes plants more tolerant, but the basics of large-scale shifting of growing zones is not a worry, in above calculation farmers wouldn't move 166 kilometers to adapt, they simply plant a little earlier or later. We live in an Ice Age, and wait until the next glacial event kicks in, then we will see farmers moving.
E J Zuiderwijk says:
The guy is certifiable.
He'll never make it for ISO9000.
Peter Wilson says:
He wouldn't be able to climb over the mountain of waster paper he's produced trying to assure us that CO2 driven CAGW is a sellable product!!
To digress slightly, see the following:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47063973
The warmist academics are now saying that the Little Ice Age is solely due to your ancestors! Supposedly the influx of Europeans from the very late 15th Century onwards led to native Indians abandoning cleared agricultural areas which were very soon covered in trees. This supposedly increased CO2 take up, and reduced atmospheric CO2 levels and thus increased the Earth's heat loss which in turn produced lower temperatures.
There are 101 reasons why this is implausible!
How desperate can you become, simply to prop up your religion!
Yeah because we all know that the Indians, sorry native American/first nations were agricultural societies forced by the invading hunter/gatherers from Europe to convert to the hunter/gathering lifestyle. Once everbody in North America (especially the former Hudson Bay Breadbasket) was huntin' and gatherin', there was a gigantic drawdown of CO2, well-known to be the only factor in climate.
Yeah, that's the ticket!
Rocketscientist says:
Well…not exactly correct. The Mesoamerican cultures and even some as far north as central Illinois along the Mississippi valley did have large agricultural civilizations, but those civilizations were already collapsing or collapsed by the time European settlers invaded. The Incan civilization was in political upheaval, but still thriving.
However, I am not aware of any of these instances where vast swaths of agricultural plots were lost to reforestation. I do believe the almost exact happened when the European settlers began habitation of the Ohio river valley with great deforestation. Large virgin forested areas of Minnesota and Wisconsin were clear cut for lumber.
I'd really like to see the data that support their claims.
NorwegianSceptic says:
….This scale of regrowth is figured to have drawn down sufficient CO₂ that the concentration of the gas in the atmosphere eventually fell by 7-10ppm ….
That would've made a great impact. Yeah, right. They are totally mad.
Phoenix44 says:
And ignores the deforestation that occurred in Europe, which should therefore have led to a significant increase in temperature. So we had a medieval warm period when we had all the forest, then we got rid of it and it got colder…untilw e got rid of some North American cropland and had slow growing forest instead.
It's like they have never learned how to actually analyse stuff.
Tim Hammond says:
Just read the full story – UCL estimate that there were 60 million Native Americans in 1500!
That's right at the top end of estimates for the whole of the Americas, and really is far higher than estimates before the whole field become heavily politicised. Canada reckons a maximum of 2 million in 1500, but possibly as low as 200,000.
At the low estimates, there is absolutely no way this can possibly be true.
Possibly true. Check out Cahokia Mounds in Illinois. It was a major trading center for much of North America. This population was only possible because the Aztecs had developed Maize and production had spread North.
What people don't realize is that diseases, particularly smallpox, killed upwards of 90% of the population of the Americas during the 1500's. Entire nations vanished.
Read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond and "The Lost City of the Monkey God" by Douglas Preston.
Or "1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus" by Charles Mann.
Hugh Mannity says:
Yea, I heard that on the BBC World Service this morning.
I promptly subjected my car radio to some heavy-duty verbal abuse. Which had no influence on the presenters, but warmed the interior of my car a couple of much-needed degrees.
I started to count the ways this was wrong, but ran out of fingers and it's too cold to take my socks off so I can count on my toes as well.
Roy Koczela says:
They say 'European settlement' but really mean 'European diseases'. In those places where Europeans actually settled in large numbers, it would not have led to a net abandonment of land. They also appear to have done their calculation about how much land was abandoned using a whole lot of hand-waving.
It is an interesting hypothesis but requires a lot more analysis and tells us nothing about the present.
4 Eyes says:
Keep raving on Bill, you're an asset to all sceptics. 97% of the entire population of the world agrees that is garbage
Bill Powers says:
Which is why they can't give this guy enough prime time. Just keep him away from the after school hours. He scares the chillun"
Alasdair says:
A severe case of the CO2 virus.
Schitzree says:
The last time I checked, Canada ALRRADY grows large quantities of grains.
Even if the warming would happen like Bill describes*, it would just mean all agricultural would move a hundred or so miles North… over one hundred years. I think we could manage to build new infrastructure in that time.
*it won't. Global Warming wouldn't 'shift' temperature zones North. It would widen the temperature zones, with the tropics staying nearly the same and Areas North and South having progressively higher temperature increases, mostly in winter.
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Johann Wundersamer says:
That's a good reason to complete the
https://www.google.com/search?q=keystone+xl+pipeline&oq=xxl+pipeline&aqs=chrome.
– not for oil, but to transport food from Canada to the contiguous US.
Oh God. A Poutine Pipeline.
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Mumbles McGuirck says:
Ironically, the same gravy and cheese curd that would keep the french fries flowing through such a pipeline would then clog the arteries of anyone eating the poutine.
michael hart says:
Even if he was right about needing to grow all future food in Canada (honestly, what a dipstick), then we would just jolly well go ahead and build a few roads and a railway for agricultural infrastructure. That's what normally happens in civilized places that aren't ruled by environmental activists and NIMBYs who get to ban anything with a whiff of industrial activity.
henryp says:
There is nothing you can do about natural climate change, except be warned about it ahead of time;
if we can get people to stop putting money in the man made climate nonsense and focus on looking at natural solar cycles, like I am saying:
There is going to be major drought time, on the great plains of north America starting just about this year or maybe next year (Canada will even be worse affected due to its high latitude)
2019-87 = 1932
[Dust Bowl drought 1932-1939]
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286971648_Drought_in_the_western_Great_Plains_1845-56_Impacts_and_implications
that drought period was from 1845 until 1856
I think I heard somewhere now about a drought that played out in in Virginia from 1755 onward. True?
Co-incidence?
Or Gleissberg solar cycle? {the GB cycle is calculated by me and others as being about 87 years although it can vary by a few years].
The extra record cold [winters] as predicted by me now have already started. The dry summers are lying ahead.
http://breadonthewater.co.za/henrys-climate/
I hope you come right:
moving south, I would say…!!!
Hello HenryP,
I have no opinion re drought but agree that moderate global cooling is imminent, if not already started.
Regards, Allan
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/18/trump-is-right-to-question-climate-change-causes/#comment-2496476
I (we) predicted in an article written 1Sept2002 in the Calgary Herald that naturally-caused global cooling would resume by 2020-2030. I am leaning toward a bit earlier, but this is a complex issue and "The science is NOT settled".
Depending on the amount of cooling, this could move Canada's grain-growing region further south, for example making agriculture in the Peace River district uneconomic due to earlier frosts.
Dr. Tim Ball published this article recently, and mentioned the Peace River District, where Alberta Premier Rachel Notley hails from:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/02/climate-is-not-the-only-limit-to-agriculture/
"The Peace River country began to open to energy potential, mostly natural gas, in the early 20th century, but agricultural settlement was boosted by the global warming that occurred from 1900 to 1940; a greater warming than occurred after 1980. THE REGION WAS AFFECTED BY THE COOLING AFTER 1940 AND BY THE 1970S WAS STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN ITSELF. I KNEW SEVERAL FARMERS WHO HOMESTEADED IN THE REGION ONLY TO LOSE THEIR LAND. It is interesting to consider the adaptations made to survive. Beef cattle became a major industry, and some farmers re-introduced bison, but perhaps the most interesting was the production of grass seed. Luckily, the cooling did not continue, and the Peace prospered. It certainly would benefit from global warming, although there is another limit, the soils. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WARMING DOES NOT OCCUR AND COOLING RETURNS AS THE BEST CLIMATE EXPERTS EXPECT?"
Hi Allan
Looking at my results, global cooling happening already.
I said this before:
simple physics tells me that as the temperature differential between the poles and equator grows larger due to the cooling from the top, very likely something will also change on earth. Predictably, there would be a small (?) shift of cloud formation and precipitation, more towards the equator, on average. At the equator insolation is 684 W/m2 whereas on average it is 342 W/m2. So, if there are more clouds in and around the equator, this will amplify the cooling effect due to less direct natural insolation of earth (clouds deflect a lot of radiation). Furthermore, in a cooling world there is more likely less moisture in the air, but even assuming equal amounts of water vapor available in the air, a lesser amount of clouds and precipitation will be available for spreading to higher latitudes. So, a natural consequence of global cooling is that at the higher latitudes it will become both cooler (winters) and warmer (drier summers). It is happening already, is it not?
Would you agree with my reasoning: At the higher latitudes global cooling causes cooler winters [no clouds] and warmer drier summers [no clouds]. Alternatively, at the somewhat lower latitudes where there is precipiatation it will obviously lead to more snow..
All of this happening, is it not? Austria was recently covered in meters of snow. The summer in Holland and Belgium was evry, very dry. The winter in USA seems very harsh…
Hi Henry,
Except for cooling, your comments are outside my areas of study, so I have no opinion.
I studied climate science for 17 years before writing my first paper. I'ma pretty careful about my public opinions and often research them for years.
I know something about stats and I developed a special sampling procedure to assess global warming/or -cooling.
Funny thing is that I suspect even the Egyptians already knew about the GB Cycle simply by observing the rise and fall of the river Nile. Currently it is cooling: more rain in and around the equator….
You can figure the details of my sampling procedure from my reports on the website breadonthewater.co.za
I do challenge anyone here to follow the same sampling procedure
1)Look at the average annual temperature of at least 50 stations in total, feel free to take a bigger sample, must be an even number
2) equal amount of weather stations nh and sh
3) all stations must balance out to zero latitude!!
4) look at the deratives of the least square equations over 4 periods of time which indicates the speed of warming /cooling in K/annum
Plot: K/annum against time to see the acceleration of warming/cooling
Henry, your method is much better than the gridding method so long as point 1 is random.
The advantage is that you a conforming to the central limit theorem while mainstream climate science dies not. As a result your data can be reliably analysed as a standard distribution while no one knows the true distribution of gridded data.
As a result we can have confidence in your statistical finding, but the results of mainstream gridding are very likely to have unknown and unknowable errors.
Yes. Random. That is important. I will react in detail later. Bedtime here now.
In response to Ferdberple and Menicholas
It is easy to predict dryer than normal precipitation over any particular area will occur…just make it vague and not any specific time period…you will surely be correct..
I would think that the idea of climate science is to predict future weather patterns. It seems Ferdberple looked over my results and agrees with me that I found an important pattern, by simple evaluation of annual T at a number of terrestrial stations going back in history 40 years or more. The sampling procedure is important. There are indeed some more details that I left out. But I am sure my experiment is repeatable.
All the major data sets are wrong exactly because they are not properly balanced. UAH and RSS had technical problems with orbits and who knows what else [e.g solar degradation due to low solar magnetic field strengths] and you can see that they always re-calibrated / adjusted on the same [wrong] terrestrial data sets. So they are all wrong and none of them have even picked up that it is already globally cooling…..
I hope the USA is waking up to this problem now due to the current weather?
Anyway, I can help. It is the 87 GB cycle where incoming energy behaves like a sine wave. So the half cycle looks like a simple quadratic curve. God is throwing a ball at us. You are supposed to catch it. I am not 100% sure why this is happening but history shows that the dry weather hits the higher latitudes nh every 87 years.
I am saying it is happening already [western Europe had a very dry summer]. So kill me if I am out by one or two years. But drought time in the USA in the bread belt coming up, soon, in 1 or 2 years or just about now. If it follows the same pattern as the dust bowl drought it could last for 7 or 8 years.
Go south, young man. Go south. Before it is too late.
I don' t think I am vague in my prediction?
Tom Abbott says:
"in the early 20th century, but agricultural settlement was boosted by the global warming that occurred from 1900 to 1940; a greater warming than occurred after 1980."
Yes, it was warmer in the 1930's than it is today. According to Bill Nye's hypothesis we should all be living in Canada right now because it was too hot for us in the States.
It was hot in the States at the time, and very dry, and people did relocate because of it, but then the extreme heat of a decade started to cool and cool and cool and people moved back to the areas they vacated and their gardens grow quite well now. No permanent damage done.
Henryp says we should expect a drought in the central U.S. in the near future, and I wouldn't say that's wrong, because we are prone to drought around here, short term and long term, but the weather pattern recently is bringing a lot of moisture into our area and just a few weeks ago eliminated what little drought we had. So if drought is coming, we have a little moisture stored away in the soil that will mitigate it for a while.
I think the climate distortionists – claiming man is to blame for climate change – will win it in the end, especially when the world food crisis will reach its highest point during the latter half of the nexr decade due to the droughts in the north of America and Europe.
Their aim is a world government
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/16/claim-we-need-planetary-sovereignty-to-address-the-climate-crisis/
Droughts are typically caused by weather patterns that persist over time, resulting in altered wind patterns, or high pressure becoming locked in place for some period of time.
If a dry area becomes dry enough and large enough, there can be self sustaining effects relating to very little evapotranspiration and hence low humidity at low levels.
But in all of these cases, adjacent areas are getting extra rain, and often floods.
It is common to have a drought on one side of the US and overly wet conditions a few to several hundred miles away.
Because most of the moisture in the air is coming from evaporation of the tropical sea surface water, and this changes very little from year to year.
How can you say some change in the Sun will cause a drought in one particular area, and not somewhere else?
It is easy to predict dryer than normal precipitation over any particular area will occur…just make it vague and not any specific time period…you will surely be correct. Because at any given time some areas are getting abnormally dry weather.
Ditto with "cold Winters". "Unusually cold weather in Winter happens every single year! Some place or another, at some point in the season. November was very cold in the Eastern US in November, unusually warm in December, and now unusually cold again. Next week the pattern will flip and there will be a period of warmer than normal in the places now frigidly cold.
So pretty much any vague prediction will be true, as long as you make it vague and over a period of time, rather than some particular time and place.
Try this: Where will it be unusually dry this coming May? How about August? In both cases, please do tell what state will be the driest. Or make a particular month and state in some future year.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/31/bill-nyes-latest-climate-warning-the-us-will-have-to-grow-its-food-in-canada/#comment-2611914
Greg Cavanagh says:
Is this what you call a trapped mind?
Someone who even mentions that goods are transported by road and train, yet can't figure out that new roads and tracks can be made to go from wherever the goods are produced to wherever the goods are needed.
Some serious disconnect with reality happening there.
… new roads and tracks can be made
Some of the Green Blob must have told him that roads and railways are harmful to flora and fauna, unsustainable and therefore no new ones will be allowed.
This affects most Alarmists.
That that's the only reason roads and tracks are made – to get people and stuff from where it is to where it is wanted.
I do believe that highlights a serious problem with how many on the Left/Progressive end of things think – that what they see around them is somehow a "natural" environment that will always be there and always has been there. That means that is should be shared equally and that if they do that it will continue to exist and be renewed.
LarryD says:
https://www.visionandvalues.org/wp-content/cache/wp-rocket/www.visionandvalues.org/2015/07/the-righteous-mind-understanding-conservatives-and-liberals/index.html_gzip
"But Haidt's second major discovery is far more consequential: the concept of "the conservative advantage." Based on painstaking cross-cultural social-psychological experimentation, Haidt establishes that the moral foundations of liberals and conservatives are not just different, they are dramatically unequal. The liberal moral matrix rests essentially entirely on the left-most foundations; the conservative moral foundation—though slanted to the right—rests upon all six.
"This is a stunning finding with enormous implications. The first is that conservatives can relate to the moral thinking of liberals, but the converse is not true at all. Haidt, who is liberal himself, elegantly explains how and why conservatives will view liberals as merely misguided while liberals tend to view conservatives as incomprehensible, insane, immoral, etc.
"Another implication is that liberal prescriptions tend to be incredibly single-minded as compared to those of conservatives. Haidt uses the metaphor of a bee hive to illustrate. A liberal, finding a bee in the hive suffering from injustice, is motivated more or less exclusively by the desire to get justice for the bee. A conservative, being partially driven by the Care/Harm foundation, also desires to alleviate the injustice, but tries to find a solution that also contemplates the survival of the hive itself."
Yep, obviously a failed engineer. Who does he think builds the roads and railways? And this never occurred to him?
I thought , wow! are we being warned in advance of Americas' next military adventure?
However Nye actually said 'normally' not 'nominally' as quoted in the text here, so I guess the armed forces and the anti war protestors can stand down as annexing your northern neighbour is not on the agenda after all.
I only know this guy from 'Big Bang theory'. He is surely not taken seriously by anyone in authority?
tonyb
Bill Nye. Who once had a video of himself explaining trade winds as westerlies?
Long since "disappeared" I fear.
In further news, evil Canadians will no longer burn in hell. They will be forced to move to Texas instead.
Tom Johnson says:
I hate to tell you this, Jim, but they're already here. Drive around any "Winter Texan" ghetto, and Ontario license plates dominate. Wisconsin and Minnesota are not far behind. Of course, they all go back to "God's Country" in the summer.
Reminds me of a country song a former co-worker and friend wrote:
'Your Daddy Don't Live in Heaven (He's in Houston)."
My friend I believe was a Berkeley grad who never thought he'd end up doing country music.
Richard Briscoe says:
. . . and Columbia will have to grow its coca in Nebrasca.
Graemethecat says:
ColOmbia!
Robert of Ottawa says:
This is a bad thing? Make Canada Warm Again!
+10. I have my feet frozen again at home, and the thing is I'm running out of firewood.
I can't take more climate change, but some warming would be welcome.
As a good Canadian neighbor, I will gladly keep you warm….As per the wood choppin' stuff….? I need more than "Hugs" for that ! LOL
I'm pissed about this solar minimum biz; I'd thought as I get old I'd be living in the balmy climate of New England warmed to South Carolina. Today it's about like Siberian tundra. We are not amused.
Alarmists who think the world should be COLDER should colonize the Arctic circle.
I know a lot of millennials grew up watching this guy. To them he was the face of 'Science!'
I grew up with Mr Wizard. Needless to say, with him as a role model Bill Nye looked more like a clown then a scientist. Still does, now I think about it.
Bill Nye is not the problem. The corrupt mainstream media that present him a credible is a problem, but ultimately, the people who are too ignorant to know that Bill Nye is ignorant and that the media is lying to them are the real problem.
Carl Friis-Hansen says:
About 1200 years ago they grew grain in southern Greenland, they still grow grain in southern Texas. Modern farming is pretty resilient to temperatures. More important is the presipitation during the sommer, cheap fossil fuel and lots of CO2 /NOSARC
commieBob says:
I claim that the people in rural areas are affected perhaps even more than people in urban areas, and they've been hoodwinked, …
So rural Americans are simple and stupid?
Sophisticated, college indoctrinated, folks in the coastal urban areas are easier to hoodwink. smart fools
Farmers order gasoline and diesel delivered to their farms to store in on-site above-ground and buried tanks (we did). They know ever too well how their livelihood will be harmed by rising fuel costs or forced renewables by the greens.
Steve O says:
Once again, the downside doesn't seem all that bad. If the worst of all scenarios comes to pass, a vast wilderness of frozen tundra with rich, virgin soil is available for farming. People will migrate North to Saskatchewan and Alberta instead of South to Florida and Texas.
But oh no! It will never work because there are no roads or railroads up there! I guess we'd better build those 350,000 wind turbines then…
Sapaud says:
Politicians, either they are brain dead scumbags or they are corrupt/criminal to the bone.
but you repeat yourself!
C. Both of the above
James in WNC says:
"Corrupt, incompetent or both?" I mutter this a lot.
J.H. says:
Mr Nye is a clown. A paid clown in a costume with a bow tie, reading a script. The man has neither the learning nor the intellect to understand that he is a paid shill for ecofascism. Without his script, he is nothing.
M.W.Plia says:
I agree J.H., and along with the world's academic, entertainment, governing and media elites his ignorance on this issue is fascinating and dominates his "thinking".
Here in Canada he will get lots of media play for this. CBC radio/tv, CTV, TVO Agenda, The Toronto Star and The Globe and Mail….when it comes to "Climate Change" Nye is still the go to guy.
Forget about Canada…….
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/climate-change-polar-vortex-1.4998820
If Nye predicts it, then I feel certain it won't happen.
Zig Zag Wanderer says:
The agriculture is going to have to move north into what would normally be Canada
So, it won't be Canada any more? Nye is going to take it over?
The Queen may have something to say about that…
Admad says:
Alan D. McIntire says:
I seem to recall from my history reading that the Aborigines in Mexico bred corn in the first place. Mexico still grows plenty of corn and beans despite being warmer and closer to the equator than the U.S.
People practicing the Alarmist Global Warming religion cannot be reasoned with. Anyone who attacks their religious faith is committing a mortal sin, and is to be shunned as an evil heretic., They even use the same LANGUAGE as Paul used in his letters- just as Paul referred to wicked Christ deniers, those practicing the global warming faith refer to wicked CAGW deniers. They even adopted the obsolete Christian practice of purchasing indulgences, called "carbon credits" in the new religion.
Here is an example from "Quora"
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-respond-effectively-to-climate-change-deniers/answer/Daniel-Kinch-2
"It is pointless to try and respond to climate change deniers…..People don't have time to persuade the unbelievers."
Roger Knights says:
"However, coal and natural gas are providing roughly 80 percent of the electricity needed to keep the power and heat on in the Midwest,"
Renewables' advocates should be challenged to explain how the region would fare with its power generation shifted in their direction under a future polar vortex.
Most of the remaining 20% is from nuclear, hydro, and geothermal.
Wind and Sun is a tiny fraction, and on very cold night and days may be near zero percent of power generation.
Chris Morrisonh says:
I blame HD tv for all these botox presenter types. Nothing much is moving on the outside for this self-styled science guy and the toxins seem to have seeped into his brain. Northing much moving on the inside either.
Everything 97% rock solid.
Carter Duchesney says:
Aside from being idiotic because of "science" he speaks as if it is just assumed that that would happen. We are already growing food. You can buy some if you'd like..
Prjindigo says:
Uhuh, I'll go warn the blueberry farmers east of me who are growing two crops a year one hundred miles South of Cairo Egypt.
The only reason we don't grow two wheat crops a year down here in Florida is the soil isn't any good for mechanized agriculture. If you look globally there are a dozen nations that grow wheat, barley and other staples right on the equator without any trouble.
Joe Born says:
The corn-yield map at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/21/co2-and-crops-nas-vs-science/ seems relevant to Mr. Nye's thesis.
Bill Nye, the bow-tie guy.
Makes me want to give away my collection of bow ties for fear of being associated with Nye
MassS says:
If the US only had renewables, thousands would be dead already.
No. Millions would have died during this cold snap without energy for heating. They would have gone to sleep and never woken.
The survivors would be found huddled around the burned ashes of their furniture.
Bill will have to explain why Canada buys almost $1 billion in agricultural products from Florida every year….
And every Winter, Florida rents a few million Canadians for a few months.
How many from the US spend a few months of every year in Canada?
tty says:
I suppose farmers in North Dakota could always switch to bananas when it grows to hot to grow oranges.
Bruce Cobb says:
"We don't have the infrastructure" is classic misdirection on the part of Bill Nye the Doofus Guy.
John Endicott says:
Bill Nye the lying guy
Phaedo says:
Senile. It's tragic.
troe says:
We are fortunate in our foes. If Bill Nye didn't exist we would make him up.
Moderately Cross of East Anglia says:
Dumber than a bag of spanners.
Obviously by his line of reasoning they can't grow food in the tropics – except that they can.
Not only does Nye not understand climate, he doesn't understand agriculture and roads, either. In 1958, I moved to northern Minnesota. I lived literally on Highway 2. I could sit on my front porch and throw a rock across it. Highway 2 stretched from North Dakota to Duluth. It carried so much grain from the fields of North Dakota to awaiting ships at Duluth, that grain simply spilled from the trucks altered migratory bird habits along the route. That's right, Mr. Nye, BOATLOADS OF GRAIN, SHIPPED ATOUND THE WORLD, MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY AGO. The roads are much, much better, now.
There were roads into Canada, too, many of them. They ranged from dirt roads to broad highways. A good paving crew could turn them from dirt roads to super highways in a couple of weeks. From the Rockies to Winnipeg there are not even bridges to be built. (Canada might need to build walls, though.)
Now I live in Southern Texas, a good 25 degrees F warmer, on average. In Minnesota, the farmers needed corn to be "knee high by the Fourth (of July). Here, the corn can be knee high by the fourth (of March). Vast plains of grain grow in both places. A couple of degrees warmer in Canada will open up even more vast plains there. It might possibly alter the varieties of crops grown here, but with our rich farm lands, and abundant rains, it will certainly not turn the farmlands into deserts.
My little lady friend just asked " How stupid could one person be ?"
After watching the video above, now she knows..
ATheoK says:
"Bill Nye "the Science Guy" has another global warming prediction — Americans will have to grow their food in Canada if nothing is done to limit temperature rise"
Nye is utterly clueless and narcissistically foolish.
All press and fan attentions are great and glorious, who cares about reality and real people.
A) Anti-science guy Nye totally ignores all of the crops grown throughout the world's tropics and sub-tropics.
B) CAGW alarmists make these threats regularly, but are unable to demonstrate or prove any impacts to temperate crops based on temperature changes allegedly caused by CO₂.
C) Anti-science guy Nye is oblivious to all of his previous failed predictions and dodgy faux science.
As a novice fruit grower I know that peach and nectarine trees don't survive temperatures of minus 30 F; at that point the trunks split and the tree dies. Is Bill Nye aware that Canada is synonymous with the Polar Vortex? I've also heard that the frost line in Canada is moving progressively south every year, reducing the area in which grain can grow! I've never been impressed with Bill's acumen in science (he's an engineer by training) and now even less impressed with his grasp of agronomy and geography!
Dos this mean that Mexico will have to move its agriculture North to the US? If not, why not?
That's a really inconvenient question. Stop it! Stop it at once!
Michael Ozanne says:
http://www.factfish.com/statistic-country/mexico/wheat%2C%20yield
Sunsettommy says:
What an ignorant man he is…….
We grow a lot of cool summer crops in warm to hot summer regions, Potato is a fine example of a cool summer loving plant, yet can grow in Eastern Washington state where hot is the normal summer average.
He should stick to what he does best, make other ignorant warmists look smart compared to him.
Bob Hoye says:
Hi Alan Macrae
Our Vancouver "Sir John " dinner on January 11, had Murphy as the speaker.
His first ten minutes were off the cuff and very funny. Best speaker we have had.
On the threat of dictatorships now:
Decent people in decent counties have intervened to end Europe's dreadful experiments in authoritarian government.
Examples in the early 1800s, 1914 and 1939 were fronted by military dictatorships. As was the continuing nemesis of Communist dictatorships.
I've used Gell-Mann's definition of a totalitarian system and have applied it to politics:
"That which is not compulsory is prohibited."
The enemy now to freedom and prosperity is no longer military dictatorships.
It is the Welfare Dictatorship.
And it will be difficult to defeat.
The guys an idiot who hasn't been a credible spokesperson for science in decades (if ever).
Arild says:
With apologies to Pink Floyd and their fans "Comfortably Dumb"
Jim Gorman says:
He has no clue about agriculture and various varieties of corn, wheat, sorghum, etc. I doubt he can tell you that as global temps get higher, what changes, night time lows or daytime highs. That can make a HUGE difference in growing seasons.
Likewise, does he really think CAGW is going to occur in the next five years? How long would it take to expand the interstate highway to carry the new products? If the temps increase 2 degrees in the next 50 years I suspect we would have plenty of time build the required infrastructure and probably new grain varieties so we wouldn't need the infrastructure.
Randle Dewees says:
You Canadians are so polite, you won't come out and directly call him what he is; Nye is an idiot, pure and simple, an idiot.
Robert W Turner says:
For the 2020 election the Republicans should put no one on stage and just allow the democrats debate among themselves. The Republican slogan could be, "Our candidate is not one of these people".
did you guys already saw this video?
Not seen this before. Thank you 🙂
https://www.slu.se/en/ew-news/2017/11/fast-growing-durum-wheat-for-hot-climate-receives-innovation-prize/
https://www.graincentral.com/cropping/new-frontier-in-heat-tolerant-wheat-to-counter-climate-extremes/
https://phys.org/news/2013-12-brazil-wheat-production-tropics.html
https://publish.extension.org/bioen2/files/2011/01/BIOEN-2_FStropicalmaizeFINALv2.pdf
Does the twat not know how to read?
Alan Tomalty says:
Would someone please tell Bill Nye that last night, in parts of Canada it was -46C. Plants don't grow in those temperatures.
leitmotif says:
US Children just aren't going to know what a vegetable is.
NancyG says:
Most already don't know what a vegetable is. Sauce on pizza is a vegetable to them. I like buying frozen vegetables and have noticed that section of the grocery store shrink over the years. It's been taken over by junk food, and vegetables with sauces and/or pastas.
As for Nye, I'm curious as to why he thinks the US should worry about feeding the world if what he claims will happen ever did come true. At that point the US would be facing famine, screw the rest of the world, feed your own first.
Considering the crap some of the more obese kids currently consume (instead of a healthy balanced & nutritious diet), I'd say some of them already don't know what a vegetable is.
Joel Snider says:
How much education does it take to get THIS stupid?
Wow, that statement is so ignorantly false!! I can't even begin to describe the levels of abject lying Bill Nye is making in that statement. I suppose it is his way to understand why rural America is mostly Red America, apparently been "hoodwinked" from his bigoted view.
Maybe he should wonder where his food comes from? Maybe he should actually visit farming operations across America and see how food is actually grown, using machines that use lots of diesel, propane, and gas. And using modern ammonium-based fertilizers made from natural gas. The man is so ignorant and a major league liar. It really is breathtaking. But then I suppose having him on Chris Matthews feeds the utterly ignorant audience that watches his show.
Bill Nye, The Big Lie Guy.
The Millennials that I work with tell me that Bill Nye was their Carl Sagan.
ResourceGuy says:
The nit wit guy….for hire
Canada no longer has infrastructure, roads, or railways? (we have railWAYS, you have railROADS…..)
I had better get the red river cart hooked up, wife has to go to work.
By the way -40 this morning, -43 yesterday morning, NOT including wind chill.
Years ago a Canadian Prime Minister was asked about Canada's best farmland being turned into suburbs. His reply was Canada would just become a net IMPORTER of food.
Windsong says:
Bill Nye, the TV scientist, proved the limited capabilities of carbon dioxide on the Seattle sketch comedy show, "Almost Live." Now, he thinks it is a magical component of the atmosphere, capable of doing just about anything. (Bill Nye – Almost Live 1990)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QwCVBENHM
Jim Whelan says:
In think Canad already has roads and railroads and airports. In any case, here's a wild idea. If you need more roads or railroads, or airports because you need to transport more goods, then build them!
I'm sure Bill Nye, the "science" guy, thinks roads and railroads and airports have been here since the Earth was formed and we have to make do with what we have. But isn't that some sort of denial?
Nye displays an ignorance about Canada that Americans are famous for.
To set the record straight: In Canada we grow different crops than the US because our climate is colder. For 3 seasons we grow ice, and in summer we grow flies and mosquitoes. When conditions are favorable we can get a pretty good crop of rocks popping up due to frost heave.
All our agricultural production takes place within sight of the US border so we can get our crops to market. Our road, railway and airport is filled to overflowing with American celebrities moving to Canada to escape Trump Derangement Syndrome.
The Trudeau government plans to add an extra lane to our road to handle the legal weed production. Luckily spraying the illegal weed with red tape has killed the legal market, leaving surplus capacity to transport 3 barrels of Alberta oil.
Without the Great Wall of Ice along Canada's Arctic frontier, the US would have been overrun by Russians posting on Facebook and Twitter during the War of 1812.
[Thanks for the laugh. Excellent! -mod]
I once learned that the Canadians harvest crushed ice in mid-winter (i.e. 364 days annually) to be well prepared for their one day summer. They were said to put it into their longdrinks for which they import fruits worth $1 bn from Fla. just for that special day. Do they really call it Boozeau-Day?
Not Chicken Little says:
Is it any wonder that thinking laymen do not trust the pronouncements of "science" people like Bill Nye? And we ALL should be skeptical, scientists especially now more than ever – when there is so much nonsense being spouted about "global warming" or "climate change" or whatever they call it – it is just WEATHER and NATURAL VARIABILITY although I do realize we've been warming for 10-12,000 years, and the more than mile-thick glaciers melted and made the sea levels rise over 400 feet or so – and the oceans continue to rise even though Obama promised he'd stop them, something less than 1/8″ per year or about 1′ per century with no signs of acceleration…
What computer model is there that accurately reflects this warming occurring since about 10,000 years ago? And that shows the many ups and downs that occurred since then some lasting for several centuries? Why do so many supposedly smart people place so much faith in computer models to begin with, especially when they don't match reality? Inquiring minds want to know…
If Canadians hold true to form, the US invaders will receive a polite reception.
I wouldn't recommend invading through Cape Breton (technically Nova Scotia, but as Capers say, Nova Scotia is an island off the coast of Cape Breton…): they will be taken into the kitchen, fed oat cakes and tea until they burst, then subjected to hours of fiddle music until they head back to the US…
Cape Breton fiddle music was banned as a weapon of mass destruction under the terms of the Geneva Convention of 1949.
Having already laid waste to large sections of the Canadian Maritimes, it is unlikely the region will be habitual again for tens of thousands of years.
Actually, I think that was Cape Breton Gaelic.
Although, compared to Welsh Gaelic, its almost tolerable. You could tame a small desert with the amount of spit you need for Welsh…
There's at least a 20 degree difference between the southern border and the northern border.
Yet a 2 or 3 degree change is going to make growing crops impossible?
Does this charlatan ever stop to think about what he is being paid to say?
As to the economic damage going to renewables cause, that has already been documented.
Frantxi says:
Bill Nye is a true science advocate you morons !
His remarks in a period like this is a true wake up call to skepticism !
/sarc for the first sentence, love you guys
D Anderson says:
Windchill is bunk unless you are running around outside in your birthday suit.
Do you also think that humidity has nothing to do with how warm or cold you feel when outside at some particular temperature?
I mean really now…how can you claim that wind chill is bunk?
Try this: Go somewhere where it is 20 below zero with no wind, and you have just enough clothing on to be comfortable.
Then go somewhere it is the same temp but with 40 mph wind in that same clothing.
I can tell you spend every little time outside in cold weather, if any at all.
If you have ever actually worked outside, or spent entire days out of doors over any period of time when it was chilly or cold, you know very well that wind has a huge effect on how well your body retains heat. This is just as true in hot weather.
90 degrees with 75 dewpoint is brain meltingly hot if there is no wind at all, especially if the sun is out and the angle is high. Same conditions with a stiff breeze is no where close to as uncomfortable.
70 degrees with low humidity, no wind? You can wear shorts and not be cold.
70 degrees low humidity and very windy? You are gonna feel cold in shorts, unless maybe if you are from Minnesota.
Why make such an obviously untrue assertion?
They sell a lot of fans every year, and every purchase proves that people feel cooler when the air is moving vs. when it is still. And the faster it moves the greater the effect.
A ceiling fan is known to allow Air conditioning to be set 3-5 degrees warmer with no loss in comfort.
The colder it is, the more effect wind speed has.
This prediction is worth one millionth of one Venezuelan Bolivar.
amirlach says:
"What would nominally be Canada?" Them sound like fighting words you Bow Tie wearing gimp…
""We don't have the railroads and roads to get food from that area to where we need it around the world," Nye warned…
No YOU sure don't, but we DO… You uninformed ignoramus.
Besides, the Prairies might be an Independent Republic in the near future as Anti-Socialist, Anti-Progressive, Anti-Moron, sentiments keep rising. We stoke our fires of industry with used Bow Ties… Better watch out Billy Boy.
kcrucible says:
You know, because it's just a matter of time before solar-powered Tractors and other farming equipment are ready to do the hard work of farming.
Chris Norman says:
Canada suffered large crop loss and low quality results due to cold in 2018. And as the planet cools its going to get worse. You can find media reports of this at iceagenow, there were articles and I particularly recall pictures of combine harvesters operating in snow covered fields. Also if my memory is correct the potato crop was severely damaged.
Robber says:
Hmm, average summer temperature in Kansas City is about 25C, average in Toronto about 23C. But perhaps bedazzling Bill meant Winnipeg, average 20C. Of course you also need some warming in those winters from -10C. He reportedly flies between residences in LA and NY, so presumably LA is getting far too hot.
Donald Kasper says:
If it keeps getting any warmer like this, we are going to erect a big, beautiful wall on our northern border to keep those Canadian heathens out. We will be migrating to Mexico to farm.
iRash says:
Bill Nye's idiocy amounts to nothing. If America needs to buy food from Canada, ok. Canada knows how to build roads and railroads too.
Tommyboy says:
I guess you could move to Canada.
Just planting a week or two earlier seems easier.
The rate of useless predictions being issued should be a major component of any index measure of advocacy/lobbyist policy moves. This would be similar to the VIX index of risk in financial markets, but in this case it's more a measure of upwellings of stupidity ahead of a major policy mistake.
J Graham says:
Slick Billy Nye is the "Dr. OZ" of atmospheric science. Nothing but hype & fraud, all the time making money from a brain numb populace.
Paul Penrose says:
Maybe at some point Bill Nye knew something about science, but he has put all of that aside to pursue a career in entertainment. He is no more credible on scientific issues than Al Gore or Whoopie Goldberg. Too bad his acting isn't very good either; played the father of the head geek on "Blind Spot" (can't remember the character's name). Not surprisingly the show really went downhill not long after that and I stopped watching it.
Gbees says:
The end is Nye … what a nutcase.
Snarling Dolphin says:
Yep. Just like Mexico and Central America grow theirs in the US. That's why their people have to come here; to get their food. Thank you Science Guy! For being so so smart! And generous with your smartness. We owe you bigly.
crosspatch says:
Bill Nye should have a talk with the California food growers that are leasing land in Mexico and moving operations there because they can get water and labor.
Robert of Texas says:
Bill Nye… A really sad ending to someone that could have done much to influence young people over real science. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he doesn't understand real science, he just repeats what he has read. I briefly met him once – he seemed to be in a hurry and not very polite – I get it, things to do, places to be.
If only he could have put the necessity of understanding a theory ahead of his need for attention, then he might have been more than a sad footnote in history.
Too bad, what a waste.
David Addams says:
He says this after people living in Minnesota just got an object lesson on the problems of relying on anything OTHER than fossil fuels. (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/why-green-energy-is-futile-in-one-lesson.php?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sw&utm_campaign=sw)
The wind basically wasn't blowing anywhere (not just Minnesota) and there wasn't enough Natural Gas available to produce electricity and heat people's homes there. People would have had an even harder time staying warm if coal wasn't supplying 45% of the electricity.
Forget harming the economy.
Getting rid of fossil fuels would make it impossible for people in some states to stay warm during winter.
Ian Macdonald says:
What got me was when Nye was asked what he thought about LENR and replied about Tokamaks. For someone who claims to be a 'science guy' that was a real clanger.
If he is interested in climate and energy, surely he would have studied these subjects?
I wonder where Dr Zachary Smith went.
beng135 says:
He floated off into space with the floating green woman that ate neutronium.
But we'll be OK, since Mexico and Central America will grow their food in the US….. 🙂
Tom Schaefer says:
Sorry about being late to comment. Does he even spend a second to see if the data agrees with his latest pronouncement?
So check this out (from a source reputable with globalists even): https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.PRD.CREL.MT
No go into the by country charts. Isn't it striking that some of the fastest growing producers are closer to the equator that the arctic? If things warm up a bit, and we get a doubling of CO2, we should see an explosion of food production, both in the US and Canada.
Svend Ferdinandsen says:
Why not move to Antarctica. The icecaps are in full disintegration and collapsing, so in a few years there will be a lot of farmland available.
Or did i misunderstand what collapse means?
Yes, but penquins have sovereignty there.
You'd have to prove yourself to be at least 1/1024th penquin, or else its stealing.
wadelightly says:
'Bill Nye is a LIAR. He is despicable.


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Newt Gingrich on Environment
Former Republican Representative (GA-6) and Speaker of the House
EPA should not regulate dust storms in Iowa
Q: What exactly is an environmental solutions agency? You want to disband the EPA and set up something that looks like the EPA?
GINGRICH: If you look at the EPA's record, it is increasingly radical, it's increasingly imperious, it doesn't cooperate, it doesn't collaborate, and it doesn't take into account economics. In Iowa they had a dust regulation under way because they control particulate matter. They were worried that the plowing of a cornfield would lead dust to go to another farmer's cornfield, and they were planning to issue a regulation. In Arizona, they suggested that maybe if they watered down the earth, they wouldn't have these dust storms. And people said to them, "You know, the reason it's called a desert is there's no water." Now, this is an agency out of touch with reality, which I believe is incorrigible, and you need a new agency that is practical, has common sense, uses economic factors, and in the case of pollution actually incentivizes change, doesn't just punish it. Source: Meet the Press 2012 GOP New Hampshire debate , Jan 8, 2012
Critical Katrina recovery by energetic church volunteers
Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf Coast with unprecedented ferocity. In Mississippi ordinary citizens and civic groups met that challenge head-on. Disaster victims were assisted by nearly a million volunteers who donated 10 million man-hours (worth $143 million in labor costs) and $400 million in financial assistance. From Catholic Charities USA, the Salvation Army, and the Red Cross to small church congregations, Americans came together to help those in need. The civic activism in the Gulf Coast reflect the kind of energetic civil society that the Founders believed was a critical component of early American civilization. The Founders focused on the right of individuals to live their lives as they see fit, including through associations. A brief history of American civil society will show how our dedication to neighbor, community, and country became a hallmark of American Exceptionalism. Source: A Nation Like No Other, by Newt Gingrich, p.116-117 , Jun 13, 2011
Replace EPA with new Environmental Solutions Agency
I don't think the EPA bureaucrats, who are dedicated to a Washington centered, top down, bureaucratic control by litigation and regulation, are going learn a new dance, a new approach, and a new model. This is double true because Obama wants to use EPA to control carbon, so he can control all of the non-health economy.
Now a new Environmental Solutions Agency, I believe, would do a better job of both protecting the environment and the economy. The principles are straightforward, localism when possible. I believe that incentives, innovators, and entrepreneurs will solve environmental problems, and improve the environment better than the bureaucrats, regulators and litigators.
The new Environmental Solutions Agency should see communities, states, and industries as partners, not adversaries in solving problems when one approaches. The Environmental Solutions Agency should look for new science, new technologies, and new approaches to get more energy, more jobs, and a better environment simultaneously. Source: Speech at 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference , Feb 11, 2011
Correct use of DDT doesn't harm humans nor environment
The origins of today's radical environmental movement provide a disturbing example That movement launched with a successful effort in the 1960s to effectively ban the insecticide DDT worldwide. This led to the reemergence of malaria in Africa, which has caused 1-2 million preventable deaths a year, according to the American Council on Science and Health. The crusade against DDT contradicts overwhelming evidence that the correct use of the chemical does not harm humans or the environment. Source: To Save America, by Newt Gingrich, p.122 , May 17, 2010
Tragic Kelo case confiscated private property
The Founding Fathers counted private property among the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator.
Rejecting the sanctity of private property, the secular-socialist model has no problem with a city council or Washington bureaucrat taking your property and giving it to someone else. It has presided over a steady decline in private property rights over the last generation, highlighted by the tragic "Kelo vs. City of New London" case, in which the Supreme Court unconsciously ruled that private property can be confiscated from individuals and given to private developers if, in the judgment of local, state, or federal bureaucrats, doing so would aid economic growth and raise tax revenues.
Reasserting private property right will be deeply resisted by every local and federal bureaucrat and every judge who likes having the power to use your property to enrich someone else. And it will be opposed by every environmental group eager to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own property. Source: To Save America, by Newt Gingrich, p. 22 , May 17, 2010
Green conservatism: market-oriented, incentive-led
More and more people around the world are discovering "green conservatism," a new pathway to environmental stewardship and a compelling conservative alternative to the high-tax, big-bureaucracy, job-killing, and government-centralizing environmentalism of the Left.
Green conservatives are political active in Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom among other nations. When we first applied the term in U.S. politics, we defined green conservatism as: "An optimistic, positive, science and technology-based, entrepreneurial, market-oriented, incentive-led, conservative environmentalism that creates more solutions faster and that will result in more biodiversity with less pollution and a safer planet."
Entrepreneurial environmentalists are the new agents of change on the frontlines of a creative environmental movement. Government's role, rather than to dictate it, is to incentivize. Source: To Save America, by Newt Gingrich, p.233-234 , May 17, 2010
Katrina's collapse of New Orleans was avoidable
As much as any one things, it was the government's failure to respond to the catastrophe of Katrina that made me determined to launch American Solutions and to insist on a bipartisan national movement to get America back on track. Here are the unspoken--and apparently unspeakable--facts about the disaster in New Orleans.
The collapse of New Orleans was unavoidable.
The collapse of the relief effort among the very poor was unavoidable.
The lack of national, state, and local leadership and decisive intervention was avoidable.
The Army Corps of Engineers failed to do its job and ensure that the levees would work when put to the test by a large-scale hurricane, which was a clearly foreseeable situation.
The politicians in Washington clearly had other things they wanted to spend money on and preferred to run the risk of a city-crippling catastrophe.
Source: Real Change, by Newt Gingrich, p. 44-45 , Dec 18, 2007
Boston's Big Dig was a classic pork barrel project
Compare success stories in saving time and money with one of the most disastrous public infrastructure projects in modern America" Boston's Big Dig.
The Big Dig highway project was the most expansive such project in U.S history. The initial price tag was $2.6 billion (in 1982 dollars), and it was supposed to be completed in seven years. From the start, it was plagued by leaks, falling debris, delays, and other problems linked to faulty construction. On July 10, 2006, a woman was killed by falling concrete in a connector tunnel. In 2008, the "Boston Globe" reported that the Big Dig's total cost would hit an astounding $22 billion and will not be paid off until 2038.
That sounds disastrous--and it is. The Big Dig was a classic pork barrel project, with weak oversight, no incentives for achievement, and no innovation in management. But that's the way government programs usually work. That's why we need real change for a smarter, more efficient government. Source: Real Change, by Newt Gingrich, p.185-186 , Dec 18, 2007
Reject apocalyptic warnings; they only lead to higher taxes
In addition to favoring science and innovation over red tape and litigation, we must reject an approach to the environment that relies on apocalyptic warnings.
In every instance the danger was apocalyptic, science and technology were major threats, and the free market was hazardous. Big government, big regulation, centralized bureaucratic controls, and higher taxes were the solution.
Former Vice President Al Gore wrote in his 1992 book "Earth in the Balance", "We have tilted so far toward individual rights and so far away from any sense of obligation that it is now difficult to muster an adequate defense of any rights vested in the community at large or the nation--much less rights properly vested in all humankind or in posterity."
The danger here is that private property rights & individual liberty could be taken away in favor of some collectivist & non-democratic elite's interpretation of what is needed. The level of power that this would give to international bureaucrats is almost beyond belief. Source: Real Change, by Newt Gingrich, p.197-198 , Dec 18, 2007
Greatest enviro dangers are poverty & command bureaucracy
The greatest dangers to biodiversity on the planet today are poor people cutting down tropical forests for money and killing endangered species for meat. Wealthy people can afford to protect the forests and protect endangered species. The greatest areas of pollution and toxic wastes on the planet today are the byproducts of the Soviet Empire and a centralized command bureaucracy that was willing to kill the environment to reach production quotas. Source: Gingrich Communications website, www.newt.org, �Issues� , Sep 1, 2007
Combine healthy environment and a healthy economy
It is possible to have a healthy environment & a healthy economy. It is possible to build incentives for a cleaner future. It is possible to have biodiversity & wealthy human beings on the same planet. And it is possible to have free markets, scientific and technological advances, and an even more positive environmental outcome. There is every reason to be optimistic that if we develop smart environmental and biodiversity policies our children & grandchildren will experience an even more pleasant world. Source: Gingrich Communications website, www.newt.org , Dec 1, 2006
Early 1980s: co-sponsored Endangered Species Act
In the early 1980s, Gingrich took some positions that separated him from most of the right wing. He voted for the Alaska Lands Act. He cosponsored the Endangered Species Act, and the Clean Air Act. Most of his early supporters from the environmental movement long ago gave up on him, but among Republicans, he remains a bona fide conservationist. Newt argues that he has been true to his original beliefs, while the "greens" have moved in a radical direction, toward the taking of private property without adequate compensation.
Gingrich made plain in a recent interview: "We're going to try to write [an Endangered Species Act] that's economically rational and that protects species. The problem now is that the environmental movement is dominated by lawyers and bureaucrats, and it's a front for anti-free-enterprisers who use protecting species as a device to stop development. The question is, do you spend $300 million to protect one species or do you spend that money to protect 30 species?" Source: Newt!, by Dick Williams, p.102 , Jun 1, 1995
Regulating 15 more contaminants under Clean Water Act.
Gingrich co-sponsored regulating 15 more contaminants under Clean Water Act
Amends the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) to publish a proposed list of at least 15 contaminants that may occur in public water systems and that are not currently subject to EPA regulation. Provides for proposed lists of at least 12 additional contaminants every four years. (Current law requires EPA to regulate 25 contaminants every three years.) Bases the determination to regulate a contaminant on findings that:
the contaminant is known to occur in public water systems;
the contaminant occurs in concentrations which may have adverse health effects; and
regulation of the contaminant presents an opportunity to reduce health risks.
Source: Safe Drinking Water Act Amendments (H.R.3392) 93-H3392 on Oct 27, 1993
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Vet students are a different breed. They invest massive amounts of time, energy, and money, in the pursuit of a dream that will allow them to care for animals as a profession. It takes a great deal of passion and stamina to see this through.
Brittney is no exception. She is giving up large portions of her final summer vacation to follow me around, and try to glean a few bits of wisdom that might help her out (the pickings are pretty slim in that department with me).
This morning we were on a dairy preg-checking cattle. This dairy cares greatly about the welfare of their cattle, and on hot days like this they run misters to keep the cows more cool and comfortable. This is nice for the cows, but makes the apron where I stand to work a little more sloppy.
We were nearly done with a pen, and had just pushed the loose cows to the end where I could sort through the stragglers. As I was turning one cow back, I could tell by the way she was turning that she was going to create a huge tidal wave of slop.
Brittney did not see this coming.
I thought about being a gentleman and using my body as a human shield against the oncoming wave of slop. But then I thought about the passion Vet students have for learning, and their desire to experience the sights and sounds of veterinary practice. So not wanting to deprive Brittney of a learning experience I stepped to the side like a matador saying "Olé" and let the wave of "slop" envelop her in it's path.
Of course being a woman, Brittney had her mouth open talking at the moment the wave hit. She was covered in green head to toe. She looked like some swamp thing emerging from a primordial ooze.
Through the slop she was spitting out, she was muttering something I couldn't quite make out. But I'm sure it meant "thank you for the learning experience."
We hosed her off, but the slop was wet enough it had soaked right through her coveralls. Being the gentleman that I am, and not wanting her to have to smell herself in the confines of the cab of my pickup, we kindly strapped her on top of the vet box and down the road we went. This not only provided her with fresh air to breathe, but the hot sun, and the wind from the moving truck served to dry her off.
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