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Come February, Virginia to Sever CHP Reciprocity with 25 States
December 31, 2015 msshootersadmin	40 Comments
In a startling move, Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring announced on December 22 that Virginia will sever concealed handgun permit (CHP) reciprocity ties with 25 of 30 states. In particular, this will affect many Midsouth Shooters Supply customers who reside in Tennessee and other states bordering the Commonwealth.
Speaking about this audit and update, Attorney General Herring said, "Virginia, and nearly every other state in the country, have recognized that carrying a concealed handgun is a significant responsibility that should be extended only to those who have gone through a process to prove a level of competency and responsibility."
Early next year, Virginia will no longer honor carry permits from the following states:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring announced on December 22 that Virginia will sever concealed handgun permit (CHP) reciprocity ties with 25 of 30 states. Millions of concealed-handgun-carry permittees will be affected by the decision.
"The standards for proving competency and responsibility are up to each state," Herring said, "and the General Assembly has established Virginia's standards for whom it considers capable of safely carrying a concealed handgun. Those standards should be applied evenly, consistently, and fairly to anyone who wants to lawfully conceal a handgun in Virginia.
Herring added, "Under state law, the Virginia State Police can agree to recognize permits issued in another state if that state's laws, disqualifiers, and safeguards are adequate to prevent possession of a permit by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth. For much of the last year, my team and I have worked with the Virginia State Police to conduct an audit and update of the states whose permits are recognized in Virginia. This has been a deliberate, thorough, professional review of the states which supposedly meet or exceed Virginia's standards."
The following permits will continue to be recognized: West Virginia, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah.
The move also means several states will no longer recognize Virginia's concealed carry permits because they require mutual recognition of permits. Those include Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Wyoming.
Border towns in West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Maryland will be hardest hit, such as in Downtown Bristol, which sits on the Virginia/Tennessee state line. State Street in Bristol divides the city into Virginia and Tennessee sections. Soon, that could mean gun-carrying residents on the south side of the street in Tennessee become criminals on the north side in Virginia.
Members of the Virginia House of Delegates criticized the actions of Attorney General Herring.
"The House of Delegates will immediately begin a careful review of the Attorney General's findings," said Speaker William J. Howell of Stafford. "Unfortunately, I have little doubt as to his true motivations. He is damaging the integrity of the office he holds."
"This is another Washington-style overreach from a nakedly partisan attorney general," said Delegate Rob Bell (R-Albemarle). "The attorney general's job is to faithfully interpret and enforce the law of the Commonwealth. Virginians who have concealed carry permits may lose the ability to protect themselves when traveling in 25 states. Instead of doing the job he was elected to do, Mark Herring continues to put the political goals of his liberal supporters ahead of sound legal judgement."
Speaking about today's announcement, Deputy Majority Leader Todd Gilbert (R-Shenandoah) said, "Attorney General Herring is endangering the lives of law-abiding Virginians as they travel for work, vacation or to visit their families. Virginia's law on concealed carry reciprocity was created in 1997, when Democrats controlled both houses of the state legislature. This law gives State Police the discretion to determine the states with which Virginia should have reciprocity agreements based on consultation with the Attorney General's office. There is no doubt in my mind, however, that the consultation provided by the Attorney General in this matter is based purely on his partisan, political goal of denying law-abiding citizens the right to protect and defend themselves."
"People who lawfully carry a concealed firearm in Virginia want the confidence that when they travel to another state, that state recognizes the rights of Virginia citizens to protect themselves. The attorney general's unilateral action likely means that many of the 25 states involved in today's announcement will no longer recognize the legal rights of Virginia citizens," said Delegate L. Scott Lingamfelter (R-Prince William), Chairman of the House Committee on Militia, Police & Public Safety. "If the Attorney General was truly interested in safety and security, he would have sat down with these states and resolved any potential issues instead of pulling the rug from under the feet of law-abiding Virginia citizens."
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40 thoughts on "Come February, Virginia to Sever CHP Reciprocity with 25 States "
Robert Temple says:
Gun control at it's best
Sounds like someone needs to file a class action lawsuit against the attorney general.
D Anderson says:
Vacationing now in Virginia. Tell the tourism department that will stop next month!
Capt. Tommy says:
So myself and bunch of other people will make other plans for our hunting trips!
John J Haeg says:
First of all, I am an American, a Marine, and a citizen of these United States, and I live in Washington State . I took an oath to defend our great country many years ago. This argument of his, is a digiuse to further erode the 2nd amendment.
All American citizens should take note before it becomes to late! As an American, I should be able to travel freely anywhere in this country without being hindered by some statute limiting by ability to self protection. A national carry permit should be given to all former , retired police, DOE, DOD, and contracted government employee's having the required traing carrying firearms.
This could easily be instituted by law giving the government another tool knowing we do not not take our responsibilities lightly.
Fal Phil says:
After Virginia's action, Washington State would be about par with Virginia. Lot's of work to be done in the Pacific Northwest.
HB 218 already took care of this issue John. Look it up. I've had a National Carry Police ID since the law changed. On 22 July 2004, President George W. Bush signed H.B. 218, the "Law Enforcement Officers' Safety Act," into law. The Act, now Public Law 108-277, went into effect immediately. Honorable retirees also are covered under this law if you maintain yearly qualifications that meet HB 218 standards.
Paul Eler says:
Another Democrat skirting around the document he's supposed to uphold…The Second Amendment drives these people bananas.
steven marlowe says:
just another part of the liberal agenda to try and defeat the 2nd amendment by using counter productive methods and playing the king obamma gun control card.If the good people do not stand and fight this then they deserve anything that these liberal fanatics inflict upon them and this will not be last for them either more to follow as that is is the way of socialism
Virginia is an open carry state so we'll simply make sure it can be seen instead. No permit or training needed to open carry so does the attorney general really believe he did something useful?
This Attorney General is legislating from his pulpit. He was elected to office I am presuming if this true he can be removed by a recall vote if there is such a thing in Virginia. If there is not then the voters should use a citizens initiative to get a the right to a recall vote.
Roderick says:
recall him !!!
George W Thomas says:
This is exactly what we do not need our elected officials can stop this outrageous liberal attack on Virginia citizens who have legal CHP This is a pay back for big money spent on campaign for thes so called leaders of this great state who would not even be in office if it were not for Northen VA and tide water The rest of the state can not stand these Liberal low life's that want to impose there will on the rights of others
James Andrews says:
The people of Virginia need to take legal actions, and have this traitor not only removed from office. but face some charges here, and be eventually sent to prison.
Ray Vaselich says:
It would seem appropriate for those states whose permits are no longer recognized in Virginia to declare the governor, his attorney general and their body guards can no longer carry concealed weapons in those states.
Harvey Gordon says:
This is what you get when vote in a Governor like Terry Mc Clinton ! It's a prime example of Billery gets in the White House.
Mark Bogardus says:
I know why this happened but it makes no sense. Of course liberals rarely do. Did these fools determine that people with concealed carry permits from other states were committing too many crimes? Did they figure by denying CCWs from other states to carry in their state would lower the crime rate? This action will have no affect on the crime rate in Virginia or it may increase it.
There is just another anti-gun move by liberals that are either protected by armed security or are allowed to carry on their own but want to deny the right under the second amendment by others.
Chuck Wilkins says:
AG Herring and governor McAuliffe are doing President Obamas bidding. Herring won the AG position by less than 1000 votes out of 2.2 million Va voters. That's .0007%. He will not win again in the next election in two years.
Philip Gillespie says:
Your so called elected officials in Virginia think this is going to stop the terrorist shootings then you are full of crap. All you clowns are doing is taking the guns from the good guys and letting the bad ones have a free hand. I cannot believe that you are stupid enough to think this is going to help. Am damn glad I don't live in your stinking state and will everything possible to avoid it.
Pat Webb says:
To the residents of the states affected, please don't think that Virginia Citizens are in agreement with this. We are working to reverse this travesty. We will not rest until we rectify this action.
It appears the state legislature needs to get off their behinds and pass a bill to make the state recognize ALL other states concealed permits. Make the wording as such that the locals who do not like it such as this Atty gen. cannot change it without an amendment to the bill passed in the states legislature.
Come on elected officials, get busy and quit talking about it and DO something to protect what is currently on the books
RugerDan says:
This article further emphasizes the need for a federal CCW permit that "shall" be honored by all States. The CCW and gun laws for each State are so convoluted, dissimilar, and change so often that it makes it almost impossible for the law-abiding CCW permit owner to stay current on all of them. This can be especially difficult for the person when traveling to or through any other state(s). One would almost think this was done intentionally to incriminate those who might unintentionally violate one of those obscure rules. This smacks of back-door gun control tactics. If we had a federal or nationwide CCW permit, it would be prevent the current state-to-state legal pitfalls for CCW permit-holders.
In Virginia, CWP's are issued by the Circuit Court which is at the county level. Perhaps if an agreement could be made with the Va State Police, an agreement could be made to issue non resident CWPs and other states affected could do the same free of charge. I know it sounds far fetched, but it would show that legal gun owners can find ways to legally go through loopholes unlike our state government who found a dastardly way of circumventing our second amendment right.
Big Bore says:
My wife and I travel yearly to the Urbanna Oyster Festival, staying just outside of Richmond and then driving to Urbanna. I guess we won't be attending any more. While where we stay seems OK, and was a decent part of town when we lived in Richmond over half a decade ago, we really do not know how safe it is going to be from year to year, after all, it is just outside of Richmond, which was a cesspool of ne'er do wells when we lived there and certainly has not gotten any better since we left. There is no way on earth we will travel there if we cannot carry while traveling in and around Richmond.
Shame too, I really like Urbanna's oysters. :^(
One more reason not to go to nor spend a dime in Virginia. It will not be a missed destination. For those of you in Tn., Virginia is the only state touching your boarders that treats you as a subject instead of a citizen. If you have family there I am sorry for you.
Thomas Vinson says:
I have a concealed carry permit from Michigan, I Had to pay for classes from certified instructors and then pay for the permit. To renew I had to swear that I had praticed with my pistol and pay another fee. What I think is the difference is the training I received.
I'll never darken that states doorsteps,
Join the NRA AND VOTE
Hockeyboy says:
"Shall not be infringed".
What is wrong with our elected officials brain waves?
Nowhere in the Constitutionn does it ever require a permit/license, ("paperwork for a fee") (aka: "unlawful tax") for a law abiding citizen, to possess and carry a firearm.
ktheis says:
well done, love the new sight
Favander says:
Geeee.. I just received my Non-residence Concealed Carry VA lic.. Now it looks like the State just took my money and sent me a worthless piece of paper… Since I live in Louisiana and often come to VA for weeks at a time.. I felt comfortable to get the LIC..
Oh well … partisan politics… Hurt the people you sworn to protect…
Roger Hanteen says:
Obama is the key to this crap. We need to move away from his agenda.
joe unknown says:
This will result in the loss of many dollars spent by travelers from neighbooring states. Should not last long but, we will see!
Charles Benjamin says:
The democrats do not respect life or our right to protect our selves , weather it is our life or the unborn.
Virginians will get what they voted for !
Dan Thomas says:
Just another infringement on our freedoms in our country. Not much I can do as an individual to fight this policy change, but effective immediately I will no longer be vacationing in Viriginia.
I will vacation in a state that allows me to protect myself or my family should the need arise. Viriginia is a beautiful state and I have always enjoyed sightseeing there, but no longer will I spend a dime in that state on gas, food or lodging.
Viriginia is a state that bands the use of radar detectors, yet traffic fatalities continue to rise each year. That law seems to be working out well.
The liberal agend seems to want to destroy this great nation as it was conceived by our forefathers and turn it's citizens into a nation of sheep dependent on their masters. If the liberals win again this fall, you may what to stick a fork into the America that we once knew, because she may be done! Our veteran's fought our enemies to defend our freedoms, but it now seems that our own government has become our worst enemy. Very sad!
Mr. Herring, something smells fishy to me! We are a nation of laws run by lawyers who are suffocating the citizens of this great nation. With each new law comes a loss or infringement of a freedom. How about setting standards of competency and responsibility for elected officials of state and federal government. There appears to be a total lack of common sense by our governing officials! The weekly news about gun control is beginning to feel like death by duck bite!
Graham Bassinder says:
dear American cousins,
preserve and protect your rights.
As a Brit resident in the UK, we lost our right to OWN any small gun under 24″ long, 20 years ago. This includes Police, Service personnel, politicians and humane dispatchers. Only people allowed to carry (not own) handguns are protection officers for our fathers who should be in heaven.
Since then gun crime has rocketed 400%, none of it attributable to legitimate gun owners, as there are none!
Nil illigitimum carborundum!
Charles Martel says:
Virginia state law allows law-abiding citizens 18 and over to open carry firearms including in a vehicle "as long as it is clearly visible." All Virginia gun-owners should exercise their right to do so at once . AG can't do a damn thing about that unless he's prepared to violate his oath to uphold the laws of Virginia.
Mark Tercsak says:
Lets me say this first, I have been through the Commonwealth of Virginia Countless times, Think it is a beautiful state and nice people, However, the Leadership in that Common Wealth thinks that we who reside in these twenty five states are not nice people and good people esp those of us who have permits, I urge a peaceful Boycott of Virginia, due not vacation there, if you can go around the state of Virginia do so, do not stay over night there and do not stop to eat . Yes it will mean hurting the Common Wealth of Virginia, but it wil also send a message to the dummies who run the state !
steven deatley says:
about 10 years ago i was at myrtle beach and stopped in at a gun store there looking for a holster.the owner told me my VA.carry permit was no good in SC ,but that his SC permit was good in my home state of VA. when i asked why SC would not honor my permit he said "well son anyone with a hunter saftey card can get a permit in VA. but here you have to take a 2 MO. long class and qualify with the weapon you will carry on a live fire course.IF this is true then this would make MR. herring a lair.the thing for all VA.gun owners to do is make sure you are a NRA member and get out and vote these jerks outta office. also if you are already in the NRA go out and recuit a friend or 2 .we will need all the help we can get when it comes election time again.
There are liberals who have an agenda just as there are conservatives who have an agenda. Many are well meaning and others are mistaken. There are also differences of opinion that often warrant discussion and that is good but then there are those who are nothing more than TRAITORS to the Constitution of the United States. Those people should be called out and treated in a manner for what they are.


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From: David Del Testa <ddeltest@bucknell.edu>
Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Dear VSG colleagues,
So, a colleague is sending a student off to teach English in Vietnam next year, and this student has come to me for suggestions for some books to read. He has never traveled anywhere in Asia, much less Vietnam. If you had to suggest ten books for a student to read in English on Vietnam, what would they be? The student and I certainly appreciate your suggestions.
Cordially yours, David
David Del Testa, Ph.D.
Associate Professor, Chair
From: Tai, Hue-Tam <hhtai@fas.harvard.edu>
I'd suggest Bill Hayton and Erik Harms, especially if he is going to be in Saigon. David Biggs' book is very helpful in understanding the Mekong Delta. For Hanoi, Philippe Papin's history strikes me as more helpful than other histories that are available in English; David Koh's Wards of Hanoi will help in figuring out the administrative structures in which the student will find himself.
The AAS has just published a history of Vietnam by an author I do not know; I have not read the book, either, but I would hope it would be a handy guide to Vietnam's history.
Hue-Tam Ho Tai
Kenneth T. Young Professor
of Sino-Vietnamese History
From: Thomas Jandl <thjandl@yahoo.com>
If the student wants to read a book that tells you a lot about Vietnam's history without being too "heavy," I recommend Duong Van Mai Elliott's "Sacred Willows." It's a family history spanning several generations, from the mandarinate to post-American-War unification.
From: Eric Henry <henryhme@bellsouth.net>
I think that any list of ten books intended for someone with little or no prior knowledge of Vietnam ought to include:
1. Neil Jamieson, Understanding Vietnam, and
2. Keith Taylor, The Birth of Vietnam
Eric Henry, PhD
Senior Lecturer (retired)
Asian Studies Department
From: Mark Ashwill <markashwill@hotmail.com>
To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To this growing list I would add Nick Turse's Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam.
From: Matthew Tye <matthew.tye@exeter.ox.ac.uk>
1. Vietnam Rising Dragon - Bill Hayton
2. Vietnam Today - Mark Ashwill
3. Understanding Vietnam - Neil Jamieson
4. Vietnam Rethinking the State - Martin Gainsborough
5. Law and Society in Vietnam - Mark Sidel
6. Everyday Life in Southeast Asia - Kathleen Adams and Kathleen Gillogly (Eds)
All these will provide their own in-depth perspectives.
Matthew Tye - AXA Doctoral Fellow
Oxford Institute of Population Ageing, University of Oxford
66 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6PR, United Kingdom
From: Mike High <mike.high@earthlink.net>
I always like to recommend "Sacred Willow; Four Generations in the Life of a Vietnamese Family" by Duong Van Mai Elliott, for one view of the older culture morphing into the new, and "Catfish and Mandala" by Andrew Pham, for a grittier view of life "in the dust."
For someone who has the time and the inclination to dip into a novelistic treatment of the "American war," Denis Johnson's "Tree of Smoke" includes many insightful vignettes of Vietnamese culture. (Side-by-side with stories of American soldiers/agents.)
:: Mike High
Khuê van các
Independent Research Facility
From: Hoang t. Dieu-Hien <dieuhien@uw.edu>
Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Adding to this excellent list:
For the most condensed, concise, and well-rounded history of Viet Nam I would recommend the first 100 pages (97 to be exact) of Sucheng Chan's book, The Vietnamese-American 1.5 generation: Stories of war, revolution, flight, and new beginning. While the rest of the book contains essays written by Sucheng Chan's newly arrived Vietnamese refugee students about their families' post war experiences, the first 97 pages condensed the 4000+ years of Vietnamese history in the most respectful and insightful way possible.
I recommend this reading to the U.S.-born Vietnamese American youth with whom I am working, who know next to nothing about Viet Nam, and who are not inclined to read 400-500 pages of text about Vietnamese history.
Di?u-Hi?n
Hoang t. Dieu-Hien, RN, MN, MPH
"The world in which you were born is just one model of reality. Other
cultures are not failed attempts at being you; they are unique
manifestations of the human spirit." --Wade Davis
Another novel: Le Luu's "A Time Far Past."
A novel that will give the visitor who works with young Vietnamese whose aspirations include a motorbike, maybe even a car, vacation, a big house and what not, an understanding how hard life was before doi moi. This is an understanding, it appears to me, that even young Vietnamese nowadays woefully lack.
From: William Noseworthy <wnosewor@gmail.com>
Among the phenomenal texts mentioned here already, students may also want to have a read of "Red Earth" and "Dumb Luck" as translated works that engage directly with crucial moments of Vietnamese history and provide excellent context for the war years and later.
Ever the best,
William (Billy) Noseworthy
PhD, c. UW-Madison
William B. Noseworthy,
PhD, c. History
M.A. UW-Madison '11
CELTA ILA Viet Nam Oct. '07
B.A. Oberlin '07
From: Martha Lincoln <martha.lincoln@gmail.com>
To the fiction section, I would also add "The General Retires and Other Stories" by Nguyen Huy Thiep, and perhaps Linh Dinh's edited volume "Night, Again" and Greg and Monique Lockhart's collection "The Light of the Capital."
Martha Lincoln
CASBS
From: <sdenney@library.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Maybe the Lonely Planet Guide to Vietnam would be useful.
Steve Denney
From: Shawn McHale <mchale@gwu.edu>
Like some others, I would recommend Duong Van Mai Elliott's Sacred Willow. It is both a fun read and a deeply educational read.
But I would also recommend reading a cook book on Southeast Asian cooking in general and Vietnam in particular -- I somehow doubt that I am the only one on this list who enjoys reading recipes . . . Pair that, if possible, with a trip to an Asian grocery store that sells Southeast Asian produce -- introduce them to lemongrass, coriander leaves, coconuts in all their uses . . .
Shawn McHale
Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM
To: mchale@gwu.edu, Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Since Shawn has suggested that the student get hold of a cookbook, I suppose it is my duty to suggest that the student also get hold of a CD or two containing some of the more excellent examples of nh?c vàng, sung by a few of the more excellent singers. It also would enhance the student's social acceptability in VN if he or she could learn how to sing "M?t Cõi Ði V?" (A title that I'm inclined to translate as "One Vast Region of Return...")
From: Jonathan Haughton <jhaughton@suffolk.edu>
I'd certainly start with a guidebook like the Lonely Planet Guide to Vietnam, as Steve suggests.
Another suggestion is Paradise of the Blind, by Duong Thu Huong, which appeared in 1988. Just don't bring it to Vietnam, where I believe it is still banned. That is also revealing!
Jonathan Haughton
Professor of Economics • Suffolk University • 8 Ashburton Place • Boston, MA 02108
Senior Economist • Beacon Hill Institute for Public Policy
781 573 8127 • jhaughton@suffolk.edu • http://web.cas.suffolk.edu/faculty/jhaughton/
From: Gmail <lugiangdinh@gmail.com>
Cc: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Even though the original question is about "read", but I think students will enjoy watching the series of documentary "Vietnam a television history". BTW, thank you so much for the interesting book list and I wonder if some of them are translated into Vietnamese.
Dinh Lu Giang
From: Carl Robinson <robinsoncarl88@gmail.com>
I'd suggest the Michelin EOS guide to Vietnam over Lonely Planet any day. LP's potted history leaves a lot to be desired, has many errors and then all those endless lists of hotels & restaurants aren't going to help.
I agree with many other suggestions, however, especially Understanding Vietnam. But the problem with Bill Haydon's book is that it can be pretty disillusioning -- even depressing -- for someone on the way to Vietnam, don't you think? Better let the youngster have a bit of fun before the sordid reality of the place sets in !
AP/Saigon '68-75
Convenor, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vietnam-old-hacks.
Sydney, Australia.
From: Will Pore <willpore@gmail.com>
For a little more historical depth, don't forget "Sources of Vietnamese Tradition," George Dutton et al., 2012.
Will Pore
William F. Pore, Ph.D.
Department of Global Studies
College of Economics and International Trade
Pusan National University
From: Andrew Pearson <whaleback@gwi.net>
The most important thing to do is get this Foreign Service Institute language book for Vietnamese,
http://www.foreignserviceinstitute.com/learn-vietnamese/
Then find someone to work with a few times a week.
The FSI language text materials (and as i recall sound as well) was
available at this site - http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php - and
considered in the public domain. But in just checking the website I got
the message that access was forbidden. Apparently the public domain site
has been taken down.
I am curious if the FSI course is really the best introduction to
Vietnamese, given other introductory materials that have been published in
subsequent years.
From: David Brown <nworbd@gmail.com>
Considering that I verge on tone deaf, FSI Vietnamese worked well for me, um, er, 47 years ago. Eleanor Jorden, already famous as the creator of FSI's Japanese language curriculum, had just completed work on the first 20 lessons of an introductory Vietnamese text, working with a handful of instructors who were all, as I recall, of North Vietnamese origin but who put on a fairly consistent southern accent and vocabulary for the purpose of drilling 23 USAID new hires and me, a very junior Foreign Service Officer.
The architecture of the course (books and DVDs) on sale for $20 at the website Drew references seems to be still much the same. There's a note at that site, however, that the price will jump to $100 tomorrow, February 16.
Is the website affiliated with the Foreign Service Institute?
they seem to have the right to repackage and sell FSI texts.
From: B F Dwyer <anthrobfd@hotmail.com>
I know the op wants to know about books but it would also be useful for people to use social networking sites to link with English speaking Vietnamese, especially from
wherever they are going to work. You can also use expat sites to link in with people that way. Movies and TV shows are also another good introduction. In answer to the question though, I've always thought Neil Jameson's Vietnam was a good introduction into Vietnam.
From: Liam Kelley <liam@hawaii.edu>
Those FSI courses used to be on a web site where one could download them for free (along with the audio files). Now that site appears to be gone, and a commercialized alternative has appeared. What a shame!
Liam Kelley
From: Anh-Minh Do <caligarn@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Dear David and list,
This is a great question and I've been loving seeing what others have suggested. I especially encourage the student to read books on teaching English, as practical skills are what's most useful on the road into Vietnam.
But I'm going to come in here with a non-academic perspective. I came to Vietnam 6 years ago and taught English in An Giang University (in the Mekong Delta) and helped develop their International Relations department. And I'm still in Vietnam (HCMC now). I don't teach English anymore, and my experience evolved into something else entirely: being heavily involved in the startup tech scene in Ho Chi Minh city.
One of the people that I met while staying here was deeply versed in Vietnamese history and had read many of the books that the list is suggesting. He unfortunately left after a 6 month stint because, it turns out, the Vietnam in the history books turned out to no longer exist. (I've seen more than 50 young people come and go from Vietnam for a handful of thematic reasons). And the Vietnam in tourist books like Lonely Planet just weren't enough. Coming to Vietnam, you want to know the Vietnam that is alive. If over 75% of the population never lived to see the war, how much value is a book about the war going to give me in my day to day? I think if you're a student coming to live in Vietnam, the best venue is finding community and an open perspective. Especially, a community of expats and/or Vietnamese people who understand your take and can augment your inevitably naive perspective. Otherwise, you risk, after a time, getting disillusioned and most likely, leaving. And sometimes, leaving with a jaded sense of life in Vietnam.
Thus, my required reading for Vietnam includes tools I really wish I had when I first came to Vietnam. They're all fresh takes on modern Vietnam (admittedly biased towards HCMC but they're still great resources for perspective), and that is by far the most useful tool for survival:
The Word Magazine: The leading magazine on Saigon geared to expats living here. There's always expats and Vietnamese here writing about modern Vietnamese culture. It's a good intimate take on Vietnam for people who haven't been here yet. Of course, as a magazine, there's a lot of businesses bundled up in there too if you happen to stop by Saigon for food.
Asia Life Magazine: A smaller magazine, but also similar to The Word. They also cover Cambodia.
Oi Vietnam Magazine: Similar to Asia Life and The Word. But much newer.
Expats in Ho Chi Minh city Facebook Group: Facebook is a great resource for meeting new people and seeing the most up to date news (but only if you hunt for things in groups) on what expats are thinking about in Ho Chi Minh city.
Under 39's Meetup Group: A great resource for meeting new people in Saigon.
Blogs: There are so many great blogs out there on life in Vietnam. From Vietnam 720's more tourist-geared stuff to Our Man's smarmy honest British expat take to Saigonist's more technical take to Her Daily Digest'sfun take. It really depends on what you like to read about, but these are a good start and they're all linked up, so whatever you want to hear more about, these folks can point you in the right direction. For tourist stuff, blogs are usually better than books because they're personally responsive (and responsible) and much more up to date. They're also sometimes more honest.
Well, that's it for now. Keep in mind, for the student (I'm assuming he/she will eventually read most or all of these emails) that all the resources on this list are all just a start. Everybody has their own take and I find that the folks with the thickest skins and most patience make it through alright. And that's not something you can learn from a book.
P.S. If the student is going to a more rural part of Vietnam, please let me know, and I'll recommend accordingly. Good luck!
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Date: Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:01 AM
This reminds me of when World News Connection replaced FBIS and JPRS.
From: Fox, Diane <dnfox@holycross.edu>
Wonderful! Yes -- I would simply add that a "both-and" approach would be even better than an "either-or".
Date: Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Adding to Anh Minh's list of sources of good information on things expats need to know in contemporary Vietnam, Mark Bowyer's excellent blog, Rusty Compass (www.rustycompass.com) must not be missed. It is a travel guide plus, and a wonderful antidote to Lonely Traveller.
Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Applauding Anh-Minh for his post and echoing Diane's wise advice, not an "either-or" but a "both" approach.
Wow, thanks so very much for all the great suggestions! The student going to Vietnam will be a bookworm expert! Here's the summary. Best wishes, David
Adams, Kathleen and Kathleen Gillogly, eds. Everyday Life in Southeast Asia
Ashwill, Mark. Vietnam Today
Bao Ninh, The Sorrow Of War (1991)
Bass, Thomas A. The Spy Who Loved Us (2009)
Biggs, David. Quagmire (on the Mekong Delta).
Buttinger, Joseph. The Smaller Dragon (1958)
Chan, Sucheng. The Vietnamese-American 1.5 generation: Stories of war, revolution, flight, and new beginning (1st 100 pages (97 to be exact))
Chivas-Baron, Clotilde. Three Women Of Annam(1925)
Duong Thu Huong. Paradise of the Blind (don't bring it to Vietnam – it's banned)
Duong Van Mai Elliott, Sacred Willow: Four Generations of a Vietnamese Family
Dutton, George, et. al. Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
Foreign Service Institute language book for Vietnamese: http://www.foreignserviceinstitute.com/learn-vietnamese/
Gainsborough, Martin. Vietnam Rethinking the State
Gellhorn, Martha. The Face of War
Get hold of a CD or two containing some of the more excellent examples of nh?c vàng, sung by a few of the more excellent singers. It also would enhance the student's social acceptability in VN if he or she could learn how to sing "M?t Cõi Ði V?" (A title that I'm inclined to translate as "One Vast Region of Return...")
Greene, Graham. The Quiet American (1955)
Harms, Erik. Saigon's Edge: On the Margins of Ho Chi Minh City
Haydon, Bill. Understanding Vietnam
Hayton, Bill. Vietnam Rising Dragon
Hervey, Harry. King Cobra (1932)
Hickey, Gerald Cannon. Kingdom In The Morning Mist (1988)
Jameson, Neil. Understanding Vietnam
Johnson, Denis. Tree of Smoke
Koh, David. Wards of Hanoi
Le Luu, A Time Far Past
Le Ly Hayslip, When Heaven and Earth Changed Places
Lien-Hang Nguyen, Hanoi's War (2012)
Linh Dinh, ed. Night, Again
Lockhart, Greg and Monique, The Light of the Capital
Michelin NEOS guide to Vietnam
Nguyen Huy Thiep, The General Retires and Other Stories
Papin, Philippe. History of Hanoi
Rubbo, Michael. "Sad Song for Yellow Skin" (film)
Sidel, Mark. Law and Society in Vietnam
Takeshi Keiko, Into A Black Sun (1968)
Taylor, Keith. The Birth of Vietnam
Tran Tu Binh, Red Earth
Turse, Nick. Kill Anything That Moves
Vassal, Gabrielle. On And Off Duty In Annam (1910)
Vietnam, A Television History
Vu Trong Phung, Dumb Luck
Some great on-line suggestions, too:
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David --
Thanks so much for this summary!
I kept waiting for someone to suggest the Tale of Kieu. I guess I should have. So I will now.
From: David Frogier de Ponlevoy <mail@aryador.de>
I am surprised that so many people have cited Jamieson's "Understanding Vietnam" as a must-read for newcomers. While I certainly enjoyed reading the book, I personally thought that the topics are a bit too "in depth" for somebody, who just wants to, well, "understand Vietnam". The book, from what I remember, deals heavily with the literature, novels, essays and newspapers of the 20s to the 50s, which I am not sure is everybody's cup of tea.
Apart from that, I would like to throw in another book, which helped me a lot when I first came to Vietnam seven years ago:
Brantly Womack: China and Vietnam. The politics of asymetry. (2006)
The first (theoretical) part might be only of interest for scholars of political science, but the second half is in my opinion a very helpful summary of Vietnamese-Chinese relationship which in so many ways still rings through until today (and I am not even mentioning the terms "islands and Eas Sea").
Also: Nobody mentioned a Ho Chi Minh biography? Or is HCM, just as Kieu, too obvious for all of us to even think of him? Well, here goes:
William Duiker: Ho Chi Minh. A life
Bui Tin: Following Ho Chi Minh.
Martin Großheim: Ho Chi Minh. (Not sure if there's an English version).
For people being able to read French, I'd also recommend the following, which is a contemporary one, focusing on 21st century Vietnam, and the same a bit bittersweet-critical approach from Hayton's book:
Papin/Passicousset: Vivre avec les Vietnamiens. (2010)
There are certainly other wonderful, very well written books on Vietnamese history and politics out there, but I am not sure if I would include them in a "top 10 for beginners".
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Frogier de Ponlevoy
freelance journalist, journalism trainer,
media & PR consultant
E-Mail: mail@frogier.om
www.ngungon.de
From: Melanie Beresford <melanie.beresford@mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Jean LaCouture's biography of Ho is available in English and, though old, it's an easy read.
Melanie Beresford
Associate Professor in Economics
Faculty of Business & Economics
Macquarie University, NSW 2109, Australia

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"To camouflage" is to sight as "to ____" is to sound
I am looking for a word that describes disguising or hiding sound with other sound. Much in the same way that camouflage acts in hiding visual objects.
I ______ our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
What could be used for hiding one sound under another ?
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– Yoichi Oishi
Voters might note that the question has been heavily modified from its original form, and some answers here were posted when the question appeared to be asking for a noun rather than a verb.
– 1006a
I see no issue with saying "I camouflaged our conversation with loud music to avoid recording."
– EldritchWarlord
@EldritchWarlord: Initially I was looking for a word similar to camouflage but used in context of sound. But some folks here asked for an example sentence.
– Rahul
not sure if it makes sense in your scenario, but "What could be used for hiding one sound under another?" literally describes a common method of stenography (in the sense of, using the transport layer or a non-audible frequency along with a second, innocuous audible frequency such as noise/music to transmit a secret message), a form of plausibly deniable encryption: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography - and since it dates back to 440 BC, it doesn't have to use an electronic medium.
– Julia McGuigan
I muffled our conversation with loud music to avoid recording
This is the first word that comes to mind, and has a similar connotation with sound that camouflage has with sight.
From Oxford English, see the second definition with emphasis added.
VERB [WITH OBJECT]
1 Wrap or cover for warmth. 'everyone was muffled up in coats and scarves'
2 Cover or wrap up (a source of sound) to reduce its loudness. 'the soft beat of a muffled drum'
From Merriam-Webster, see the first definition and the second part of the third definition with emphasis added.
muffled; muffling
1 to wrap up so as to conceal or protect : envelop
2 obsolete : blindfold
3 a: to wrap or pad with something to dull the sound. 'muffle the oarlocks'
3 b : to deaden the sound of
A comment by mahmud koya also noted this word and usage.
NijNij
I just wrote a comment about how this is the correct answer, but after re-reading the question, it's not. Muffling is dampening or deadening a sound but the OP is talking about using a louder sound to cover the original-volume sound. It's a subtle difference, but I wouldn't consider that "muffling". Same counter-argument to "muting" as mentioned by @cwallenpoole
Marking this as correct answer because I found this usage at many places.
you could consider "drowned out"
I drowned out our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
For a single word "masked" would work equally well.
Martin SmithMartin Smith
masked, I like that...
– Lamar Latrell
@AthomSfere I'm also a native American-English speaker, and this sounds completely natural.
– Justin
You might have to provide a little more context to make this work for the asker's specific need - normally when a sound is properly drowned out, it's completely inaudible. So you'd need to specify it's drowned out from the perspective of the person it's intended to be hidden from, and not from the perspective of the person it's intended to be heard by.
– talrnu
Mask is a term of art in audiology and psychoacoustics. Masking occurs in the ear when one sound activates the basilar membrane in such a way that the effects on the basilar membrane caused by another sound are obliterated. Lower frequency sounds of higher intensity mask higher frequency, lower intensity sounds. This principle is used in the MP3 encoding algorithm to throw away audio data that is normally rendered inaudible due to masking. Since recording devices are not ears, this may not work to create privacy.
– Todd Wilcox
I think "mask" is the closer analogy. Drowning something out leaves the listener unaware what was said, but they still know something was said. That would be the equivalent of putting a huge screen in front of something: you don't see it anymore but you know it's there. Camouflaging something means hiding the fact that it's there, and that's what "masking" says.
– Kilian Foth
The best word I can think of is sound masking, which can be used to disguise one's voice, as camouflage can be used to disguise one's appearance.
Wikipedia on Sound masking
Addition of sound created by special digital generators and distributed by normally unseen speakers through an area to reduce distractions or provide confidentiality where needed
Since sound masking is two words, you can use masking while talking in the context of sound.
Masking - The process by which one sound is used to obscure the presence of another.
Description from Acoustics First
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Overlay is also close enough. But since masking fits better I am gonna give it to you.
Sound masking is one (open compound) word, not two words
– Stefan
"masked" is absolutely the correct word for the example sentence given in the question.
– Evan
@KevinBradshaw yes, on reflection masking is a much more suitable word.
– ESR
Agreed. This is the very word audio engineers and musicians use to describe the phenomenon of one sound obscuring another. I've heard it used as "auditory masking", "sound masking", or simply "masking".
– James M. Lay
"I obfuscated our conversation with loud music to avoid recording."
With the definition of the verb from the Oxford Dictionary:
To make obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
With potentially useful synonyms listed as:
obscure, confuse, make obscure/unclear, blur, muddle, jumble, complicate, garble, muddy, cloud, befog.
And more off the top of my head:
I concealed our conversation…
I disguised our conversation…
I veiled our conversation…
Lamar LatrellLamar Latrell
Interesting usage! I've asked this question.
– uhoh
This gets my vote. 'Muffling' brings to mind a hand over someone's mouth, or any other physical noise suppression. Obfuscation seems to be exactly what OP was looking for (not affecting the original sound, but simply covering it with another sound).
– Coty Johnathan Saxman
Neither "obfuscated" nor "veiled" really work here. I prefer "conceal" (simple, unambiguous) and "disguise" (camouflage is also a form of disguise)
– Mari-Lou A
If you want to drown out a radio signal by overwhelming the channel with noise, it's called jamming. By analogy, you can do the same thing with sound waves:
Audio Jammer on Amazon
What is the White Noise Audio Jammer?
200_success200_success
This is good. I don't know why such a commonly used word didn't crossed my mind. Technically it's right because jamming signal means to interfere or block which consequently makes original signal unreadable. But jamming doesn't sound right for usage in my example: I jammed our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
No, you're not jamming your conversation; you and your friend are still able to hear each other. "I played loud music to jam any possible recording attempts."
– 200_success
This restructures the complete sentence, upon which words like block, prevent, cease would be suited too.
But jammed is much more specific. Block could mean a physical barrier, prevent is completely non-specific, and cease is just wrong (I would interpret it to mean ending the conversation).
Noise - irrelevant or superfluous information or activity, especially that which distracts from what is important (OED).
Yes. If it were active camouflage I would emphasise white noise, and if were passive camouflage I would emphasise background noise. But either way, some sort of noise.
– PCARR
Noise suggests distraction from actual one. I was looking for a word analogues to camouflage i.e to hide it or cover it so it becomes indistinguishable and unrecognizable.
This is good in a "signal to noise" sense.
– JFA
"I noised our conversation with loud music to avoid recording" ??
Unfortunately the clarifying edit has invalidated this answer.
– Andrew Leach ♦
I've always thought of the verb suppress.
To suppress something means to curb, inhibit, or even stop it. If the sound of your boss moving in his chair sounds like gas, you're going to have to learn how to suppress your giggles.
(verb) control and refrain from showing; of emotions, desires, impulses, or behavior
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/suppress
(verb) to keep in or repress (a feeling, smile, groan, etc.)
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/suppress
The term is commonly used in the context of weaponry, as you can suppress the sound of gunfire with a suppressor.
(noun) A suppressor, sound suppressor, sound moderator, or silencer is a device attached to or part of the barrel of a firearm or air gun which reduces the amount of noise and visible muzzle flash generated by firing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor
StevoisiakStevoisiak
I would like to suggest a two-word term disguised voice which is widely used in the sense as the OP intended, as per the Google Books Ngram Viewer. Also the following example sentence is from the M-W dictionary:
He tried to disguise his voice on the phone but I could tell it was him.
mahmud k pukayoormahmud k pukayoor
disguise is a broader term for camouflage, mask, overlay.
I think disguise is a perfectly good term here.
– Don Jewett
Overlay - to cover (something) with a layer of another.
I find this fit in context of sound. Because it's frequently used in music making where sound from two channels are mixed together. One overlaid over another with varying intensity.
My example becomes as follows.
I overlaid our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
An overlay would generally be used to compliment and augment the existing sound, the intention here is to limit the effective range of the conversation, which is a different thing.
– Kevin Bradshaw
I camouflage our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
That's the sample sentence I'm suggesting. A work that you can use, quite rightly, is "camouflage". In this context, that word works great.
Here's another example of a sight-related word used in other contexts. Just as the word "beautiful" may first and foremost tend to refer to sight, but can also apply quite nicely to music, English has no problems taking a concept that is often used in one text, and using that concept in a totally different way. (I would say that doing such a thing is typically less atrociously egregious in concept than when a person "verbs" a noun like what this sentence just did.)
The most traditional use of the word "beautiful" may refer to sight, but the word can often mean "nice" or "pleasant" when referring to sound, or even something unrelated to senses, like the "beautiful work" of a job that was well done. Similarly, the word camouflage isn't at all restricted to only refer to sight. For instance, lies can often be effectively camouflaged by a bunch of true facts.
If you try to make your conversation appear to be part of background sound, by making the background sound at least as loud as your conversation, then your conversation will effectively be camouflaged by the the loud music.
People hearing or reading such a sentence will totally be able to understand the concept, without difficulty.
TOOGAMTOOGAM
"Camouflage" is perfectly applicable to sound. Also, to just about any situation in which something is hidden by a distracting pattern. Such usage is almost literal; it is a shallow metaphor at best.
KazKaz
For obfuscation of sounds—even using other sounds—I'd use the verb "baffle."
2 Restrain or regulate (a fluid, sound, etc.)
'to baffle the noise further, I pad the gunwales'
'Access is via exterior galleries along the street frontages, with bathrooms and kitchens placed here to baffle the street noise.'
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/baffle
Note: For written materials, I'd use "obliterate." Unfortunately, in either case there is a more common usage of the word that may obliterate your intended meaning and baffle your audience.
Tyler James YoungTyler James Young
"Baffle" sounds like physical attenuation, which is not what is happening here.
@200_success: It is technically what is happening at some level, but I take your point. In writing, it would be the difference between scribbling over a word with the same pen or placing a piece of tape over it (disrupting propagation of sound-waves with other sound-waves or with objects). I think this metaphorical stretching is better than some of the other options here, but that seems to be an unpopular belief and I'll live with that :) I would delete the answer, but I still think there's an off chance someone coming here with similar needs will think it's the perfect word.
– Tyler James Young
I quite like it!
– Andrew
Given the sentence: I ______ our conversation with loud music to avoid recording.
A fit would be "washed out". "I strained to listen but their conversation was washed out by the sound of crashing waves".
However given: Camouflage is to sight as ____ is to sound?
A fit would be "mimicry". Although to mimic can be used for ridicule it is also used to mean to emulate something. Camouflage mimics the natural surroundings, so someone passing information by mimicking a bird would fit, although from greater context of the question this isn't what you mean.
From the context of the question is is clear that you want to use a descriptive word for using a white noise generator, and such a device has the effect of "washing" out sound making it difficult for recording.
Finally any word for noise in general: "Within the din our message was obscured from prying ears." or "Under the cacophony of sound; which went by the term 'digital hardcore', my room-mate secretly passed along the nuclear launch codes."
QuaternionQuaternion
Not necessarily white noise generator. Any other sound that makes it difficult to make out the original sound. For which masking and overlaying seems to be better fit.
From a technical tack, a white noise generator is like a one-time-pad, random letters chew up the meaning of the clear text in the same way that random frequencies chew up audio. Overlay with music is problematic in that a good recording device will still capture your conversation (although it wouldn't be understandable) but given a music file you can reverse it's effect and retrieve (filter)the underlying message where with a good white noise generator this shouldn't be possible. I just though I would mention this in case it's a spy story.
– Quaternion
Just as the camouflage restrains making out actual from surrounding I was looking for a word that would convey similar meaning but in context of sound. I found masking and overlaying to be more frequently used in such context hence I will go by that. Thanks a ton for your input.
Destructively interfere... (Edit: with thanks to prompt from commenter, is verbifying the intent)
This is the scientific concept behind noise cancelling headphones. Basically, the headphones analyze the sound that comes in from outside the headphones (ambient noise in the room) and then emits a waveform that is an inverse of the ambient noise waveform.
https://youtu.be/oTjTXS40pqs
AndrewAndrew
Destructive Interference describes what is occurring, but it isn't a verb that could be placed into the provided sentence. Verbifying might help: destructively interfered for instance.
– Robert Benson
Hahaha... Scientifically correct and yet has the most negative score. Boom baby! That's going on my trophy wall.
Destructive interference with a signal only applies in specific places relative to the two emitters (or the emitter and the receiver). It wouldn't disguise or camouflage the desired noise in some places at all, and in others would make it easier to eavesdrop. "Scientifically correct" is nonsense.
– Nij
meaning "to outshine" but for a sound
Word for sensors that collect the same data in two different ways
Correct verb to describe relationships between processes in technical writing
What do you call the sudden burst of loudness that may occur when switching from one audio source to another?
Camouflage but not quite... like zebras
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The Story of a New Author
Ultra-prolific indie author Dean Wesley Smith, he of Pulp Speed fame, tells the story of every debut tradpub novel you see advertised in Locus or Publishers Weekly.
Here is the story…
— Author spent years wanting to be a writer.
— Author rewrote that "special snowflake novel," following all guidelines, to agent's and editor's requests, taking years of time.
— Author ignores all warnings because they want to be taken care of by an editor and their cherished agent. Author has no belief in their own work.
— Author signed an all-rights contract for the life of the copyright, selling everything to do with the book with no chance of getting it back. The author celebrated the signing as if it was a good thing.
— Author a year or more later is excited that the book is coming out. Does launch parties or other such foolishness, all for the ego of showing friends and family it was worth it.
— A year later, since the sales were flat as all are in this new world, author can't sell another book. Agent will no longer answer author's phone calls. Author gets bitter and goes and does something else with their life.
There are a few side-roads to this. The author might have signed a two-book deal. Add a year before the large crash. The author might actually get, for even less money, two more books. Rare. Add another year or two to the torture.
And even more rare, sadly, do I see these young writers emerging from that grind and turning to indie.
I am seeing a ton of long-term bestselling authors with anywhere from 25 to 75 traditional novels, turning indie. They were either dropped or are fed up with the treatment. They are flocking to indie.
But those new writers are lost. Their dreams of having a book "published" and getting the fairy dust of honor from a traditional publishing turned out to be fools gold. Having a dream slowly crushed like that is almost impossible to recover from.
So every day I hear a young writer's dream of traditional publishing, or I see hundreds of ads in magazines of new writer's books, and I just have this sense of immense sadness for the writers.
There is no longer a career path into publishing using the old tin cup method of begging to publishers. You might beat the odds and get in the door, but you will soon be gone.
Career writers now are indie writers. We have accepted the control. In fact, we cherish it and the thought of anyone taking care of us is appalling.
But that is a matter of perspective. If your dream is to be taken care of by traditional publishing and having an agent, nothing I will be able to say will change that.
But I will see your name, your book, and feel sorry for you.
But I will say nothing to you.
After all, it is your dream.
Until quite recently I was always shocked when aspiring authors told me they planned to submit their novels to traditional publishers--especially now that even publishing industry insiders are admitting that Amazon and indie authors have sent the Big Five trad publishers into a death spiral.
But now I understand that most new authors--like most people in general--don't base their decisions on facts and logic. The hopeful young writer who toils for years on the tradpub rejection carousel trying to land an agent and sell to an editor in New York does so not because the evidence shows it's the best path to a career. He endures such futile drudgery because it reinforces an identity.
Authors tend to be introverted and insecure. Many of them believe that getting anointed by a bunch of strangers in some Manhattan office entitles them to embrace a new and superior self-concept: that of the Published Author™.
No amount of rational argument will sway those who dream of attaining Published Author™ status from their Quixotic goal. You may as well try to argue a Billy Joel fan out of liking "We Didn't Start the Fire". He doesn't like the song primarily out of any artistic merit. He likes it because he's a Billy Joel Fan.
Likewise, most aspiring authors are aspiring Published Authors™. It doesn't matter that even if they beat the increasingly long odds and get published by a traditional house they'll earn 1/6 indie royalties. It doesn't matter that their artistic impulses will be chained to the whims of trend-chasing editors. It doesn't even matter that they're as likely as not to never have another book published after the first.
No. The fact is that most aspiring authors don't want successful writing careers. Their identities are invested in the dream of becoming Published Authors™--even if that dream will crush them.
There was a time when I pursued traditional publication. But my blessing and my curse is that I'm one of those oddballs who's convinced by dialectic. Successful indies like Dean, Hugh Howie, and Joe Konrath provided the data that set me on the self-publishing path.
Now I have four books out within a time frame when most tradpub authors have only released two. My first book has earned more money than most new tradpub authors will ever see from theirs, and my work has received major award nominations and one win--all in two years.
None of it would've been possible without the real driving force behind publishing: the readers. They are who aspiring authors should strive to please.
Sadly, Dean is right as usual. It's a bad idea to wake sleepwalkers. There's no need, anyway. They'll get a rude awakening within the next few years when tradpub as we know it collapses.
Meanwhile, I'll be reaching and entertaining readers with my award-winning books, and releasing new ones.
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xavier September 5, 2017 at 10:18 AM
Thanks again for posting aboutbthe bizness(tm) side.
I wonder how Dean would respond to the post and comment from Mike Shaztkin that I sent you some time ago
http://www.idealog.com/blog/tech-giants-big-good-partners-book-publishing/#disqus_thread
And Regenery has cut ties to the NY Times bestseller list?
Because Dean has flatly refuted Mike's assertion that traditional authors aren't becoming Indies.
Lemme ask you and Dean this question what are the top 5 responsibilities of an indie without?
#1 of course is the audience is your patron so your job is to satisfy them with an enjoyable story (aka spend their beer money)
But what are the other equally important duties?
Rawle Nyanzi September 5, 2017 at 12:06 PM
Also, the traditional model doesn't allow for the "Mollison method" of publishing shorter stories, then compiling them into one big book united by a common setting.
Brian Niemeier September 5, 2017 at 12:14 PM
Tradpub doesn't allow for a lot of the publishing strategies that are essential to success in the new market. Yet indies have access to all the same tools as tradpub on Amazon.
This is why Nick Cole is absolutely right when he observes that the rare few authors who are currently "taken care of" by the Big Five won't survive as indies when their contracts are cancelled.
Rawle Nyanzi September 5, 2017 at 3:40 PM
And it remains to be seen what we can build in its place.
JD Cowan September 5, 2017 at 5:04 PM
All tradpub books come in the same size, same length, and same formula. They're too limiting with what they allow.
Bradford Walker September 5, 2017 at 3:36 PM
The last tradpub new discovery that actually got a fantastic deal was Scott Lynch, over a decade ago now, and that--freely admitted then and how--was a fluke that should not have happened.
Scott's agent is also his editor at Gollanz in London (which, by the way, is why I always talk of a NYC-London axis in tradpub). It's this guy who screwed up and accidentally got Scott on his _seven book contract_ because he sold books to other parties that he didn't have and had to cover his ass fast.
Scott is now at Book #4. #5 is in that same Development Hell that consumed Books #3 & #4. At this rate, by the time he finishes #7 "The hot young fantasy author" will be a greying old man- and fit in perfectly with the decaying WorldCon set.
It's not worth it. Go indie.
Brian Niemeier September 5, 2017 at 7:38 PM
Listen to Bradford, folks. He knows whereof he speaks.
xavier September 5, 2017 at 6:48 PM
Thanks for your input,comments and experiences.i concour with Rawle that the English language is roo restrictive with genre. For example the short stoeies are still in giod shape in Soaib. In fact nuvol.com has just announced its 3 finalists for its story competition. The winner of course gets published. If I Renner write the finalists too in ebook with their stories and the winner.
nuvol.com is an independent cultural magazine that a few months ago started to publish in paper. They're also a micro publisher.
So to answer Rawke's question: be audacious and publish the genre you like. If you can't find a publisher become one:)
The future will be micropublishing. Most won't make money but they'll provide outlets for many talented content
Sport it should read the short stories are in good shape in Spain
Chris Lopes September 5, 2017 at 9:56 PM
Obviously, from a strictly practical point of view, Indie is the way to go. But I can't help feeling sympathetic to the dreamers who want a "real" publisher. I mean it'd be great to just be Mr. Author while an army of publishing experts handle the whole editing, marketing, and distribution thing. That's the life of an author one usually sees on TV and in the movies. It's also the life that doesn't usually happen unless your name is Stephen King or James Patterson.
So the dream is mighty seductive, but not really attainable. As standard publishing sinks deeper into the bog, that will become truer. But the dream will live on.
J Van Stry September 5, 2017 at 11:52 PM
I couldn't get published traditionally. so I gave up on trying. Wasn't like I needed the money, the day job paid really well.
But I kept writing mostly for my own satisfaction.
Then indy came along and I decided 'why not'? And suddenly found that those stories of mine that the trads wouldn't touch sold, and sold rather well.
Now I write full time. Yeah, it doesn't pay as much as the job I quit, but pays more than enough to cover all the bills. Not a lot of people can do that.
Brian Niemeier September 6, 2017 at 6:53 AM
Congratulations, sir!
One fact that's become increasingly clear is that the Big Five publishers are out of touch with what the reading public wants. They're also far slower to adapt to changes in the market than indie authors are.
xavier September 6, 2017 at 7:10 AM
I disbelieve the 5 publishers are deliberately out of touch. It's cultivated disdain. Notabrly that our tastes are pleabian,uncultured and we just need to follow their best seller lists and approved authours(tm) to truly appreciate Literatur(tm)
i've never read Franzen for example and I don't plan on reading him. He strikes me as ur boring
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We climbed out of Alora, via Ardales and through the mountains, past Campanillo, until the countryside became less undulating. The closer we came to Seville, the flatter it became until we were crossing the kind of plains the rain mainly stays on, apparently. Seville appeared in the distance but it seemed to take forever to traverse the outer industrial suburbs. As we neared the city centre, we encountered wide avenues and parks, until we crossed the river into Triana and the modern apartment buildings closed in. After a couple of laps around the block and narrowly avoiding a run in with a Benz, we found a car park. The cost of the car park? €21 per day, half as much as our apartment! Note to selves: Sometimes it's better not to have a car in Europe….
We were a little early to check into the Airbnb apartment, so naturally we found the nearest Cerveceria, as you do in Spain! There are few things better on a hot Andulcian day than an icy cold beer and tapas, although the tapas were not quite the quality we had been used to in the more rural towns.
As always we were keen to explore the city by stretching our legs. We left the apartment, crossed the Punte de San Telmo over the river and guided by the elegant buildings on the skyline, past the Palacio de San Telmo and into the Parque de Maria Luisa. The park formerly is a huge parcel of land which formally belonged to the queen's sister, the Infanta Luisa Fernanda, Duchess of Montpensier, it is the perfect place to take a rest and escape the hot Spanish sun. The gardens were donated to the city and are beautiful designed with fountains, numerous monuments, trellised groves and walkways, orange trees and so much more, all under a canopy of rubber trees, huge plane trees and of course the now ubiquitous gum trees.
Upon arriving in the park, we found a remarkable semi circular building, arranged around an incredible tiled plaza, which we later found to be the Plaza de Espana. It was constructed for an exhibition in 1929 and looks as spectacular today as it must have then. The tiles throughout the buildings are various shades of yellows, blues, greens and gold and there is a wonderful moat around the base of the plaza, where people row boats under various beautifully tiled bridges. It is reminiscent of both of Morocco and Venice. We meandered around the plaza and park for a couple of hours before realising that sight seeing in 42°C was a little crazy and we decided to head back to the air conditioned apartment. We grabbed a couple of cold drinks from a nearby supermarket and retired for siesta. Everyone should learn to siesta, such a sensible way of dealing with the summer heat. We were left wondering why we don't do this in Australia, given that the weather is the same during summer?
As the heat of the day began to subside, we once again ventured out into the city and headed over the river, turned left for the old part of town and wandered along the river bank. As we neared the Teatro de la Maestranza, the Performing Arts Centre, we turned into the old city and lost ourselves in the numerous alleyways and lanes.
It turns out we just missed out on seeing the ancient bullring, but as neither of us agrees with the so called sport, we didn't mind (you will note an absence of Bull fighting in our Spainish experience). Eventually we emerged near, of all things, The Clan-Scottish Pub. Given the time of day, the heat and our natural proclivities, it should come as no surprise that we popped in to quench our thirst. Thus fortified, we wandered through the city.
We have seen many beautiful cities in Spain, but none so far, compare to the splendour of Seville. The many large and imposing buildings speak to a wealthy and historic past. The Seville Cathedral , Cathedral of St Mary of the See, is an excellent example of Gothic architecture. The numerous turrets and statuary, the delicately carved icons and imagery, are a feast for the eyes and the belltower looms over all, topped by a beautiful statue, the El Giraldillo.
As we slowly trundled along the tram tracks around the base of the looming church, Cath spotted the Passaje de los Seises, never one to bypass what may be a secret passage to nowhere, she took off and we were delighted to find a small plaza, with painted and tiled buildings, a fountain and a small group of guys relaxing out of the evening warmth with a beer or two. A delight that you must find if you are in Seville.
We walked on through the old city and it is fair to say there was not a block that passed by where we didn't marvel at the buildings. The Ciudad de Londres was a gorgeous example of Moorish influences, while the Metropol Parasol is just an amazing piece of modern architecture.
The Alameda De Hercules, with its Roman statues atop imposing columns is the oldest public garden in Spain and Europe. It is conveniently surrounded by bars, where we would sample a Mojito later in the evening. We could go on, but there is too much to mention, you could be lost in the streets of Seville for a very long time and still be left marvelling at the beauty.
Suffice to say that we eventually wound our way to a small tapas bar, the Casa Ricardo, where we ate some of the most memorable tapas of our trip. Call it adventurous or call it silly, we decided to let the bar man choose our tapas and what a selection!
The first dish was a simple Jamon croquette, but this was followed by a delicious dish similar to Osso Bucco. Cath claimed that there was no point in making Osso Bucco anymore, as she couldn't compete. The third tapas though, was confronting, to say the least. It appeared to be a deep red piece of toast piled with small white worms. Ian considered leaving the bar immediately, but his curiosity got the better of him and he sliced off a piece. It was remarkably good and we both scoffed the rest with delight. As we found out later, it was a slice of tuna topped with anguilla elvers, baby eels. The final dish was a lovely creamy artichoke heart. And of course all washed down with a couple of ice cold, Tinto Verano.
We spent the rest of the evening, wandering through the old streets, stopping off at small squares to people watch, enjoy a cold drink and generally gawk at the beautifully preserved city.
We had achieved a great deal on our first day's forays into Seville and determined that our second day should follow suit. First item on the agenda was the fabled Alcazar, the Moorish castle of Seville.
We were again distracted by gorgeous architecture and gardens and found ourselves enjoying a flamenco street performance before realising we had actually passed the castle. So it was that we made a quick backtrack, before we strolled down an alleyway and found…. the exit. Down another alley, around a corner and we were standing before the castle walls; they are enormous standing at least 12 metres high. They certainly must have been quite a challenge for invaders. We saw the length of the queue and decided to await another day before mounting an incursion. This at least gave us another opportunity to admire the cathedral again, which is right next door.
We had decided to have a closer look at the Metropol Parasol, which is sometimes referred to as a waffle, due to its latticework structure and so we proceeded once again through the old city. As mentioned previously, there are wonderful buildings at every turn and it was a great pleasure wandering and admiring. In no time we arrived at the La Encarnación Square, where the giant structure, known locally as Las Setas de la Encarnación (Incarnation's mushrooms) sits. It is possible to catch an elevator to the top for €3, and free drinks in the cafe at the top are included in the price. We took full advantage the air conditioned bar and the view across the city was terrific.
Our AirBnB host had given us a couple of restaurant tips, including for a meal "like my grandmother would make, I have no idea what it will be but it's always good". So after a long morning of meandering we headed there for a late lunch. The Antigua Abacería de San Lorenzo is a small unassuming restaurant, but one that you must not miss in Seville. Disappointingly we found it reviewed on TripAdvisor! So the world already knows, damn! We chose the "menu a dia" and were left feeling like a couple overfed cats needing a good afternoon nap.
We had heard that there would be a pilgrim's progress procession over a nearby bridge later in the evening and so after wandering back to our apartment, we elected to lay low for a few hours and again avoid the heat. We made the effort to go out in search of the pilgrims later that evening but sadly they eluded us and so we retired gracefully in the knowledge that we had given Seville our all. The next morning was to be the beginning of a new adventure to Gibraltar and, as ever we were champing at the bit….
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We've been dying to see Andalucia, especially Seville so this is especially helpful for us. The Plaza de Espana looks amazing. This is a great itinerary for 2 days, we can't wait til we get to go visit!
Seville looks gorgeous and I loved your photography, will have to deffo add to my list of places to visit, thanks for sharingn such a lovely write up.
I'd never heard of Seville until a few months ago and now it seems to be popping up everywhere! It does look like an amazing place to explore and your photos definitely do it justice!
Wow, you guys have truly had a great time exploring Seville. I love to experience Seville like what you guys have experienced. Ambling around that green and refreshing Plaza would make me really happy. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
Great trip report! Had been to Madrid but not Seville. I am glad your host gave a solid recommendation on where to eat! I have yet to try an AirBnb.
Hi there, thank you for reading and commenting. We love AirBnb and have used it for many years, we generally find hosts are great local resources.
It seems like you had a great time in Seville. I found the buildings you described and photographed to be awe inspiring. The food scene sounds delicious as well.
Hi Denny, thanks for commenting. We loved Seville and will go back for a longer stay in the future. Have you been?
You write in such an enthralling way that it brings me right into the heart of Sevilla. Can't wait to go there!
SEVILLE sounds so fascinating! I've got to include it in our trip to Spain.
Wow what a wealth of information and you have created a beautiful narrative to share your story. Definite inspo for my next trip to Spain!
Hi Kiara, thanks for reading and commenting. When are you heading to Spain next?
Wow, your trip there seems incredible. Thanks for sharing these tips!
I loved Sevilla! My favorite city in Spain for sure!!


In life, we are surrounded by an array of people who bravely face diversity, giving it a good kick along the way, for good measure. In my job as a journalist, I am lucky enough to meet with folk like this, whom I admire and am inspired by, and I feel honoured to be in a position to tell their story.
At 30, Jamie Fox had thrown himself into pursuing a lifelong dream to become a trained chef. Long days of working in dull warehouses were behind him as he embraced his new-found career, landing himself an impressive role at Plymouth's River Cottage Canteen. What happened to Jamie after that though was unexpected and life-changing but the father-of-two has managed to turn his life around. Again.
"After working for years in warehouse environments, I was made redundant and decided to follow my dream of becoming a chef. From the moment I started at college, I knew I was doing the right thing, food is my absolute passion," Jamie explains.
"The plan was to move to Devon [from Bristol] once qualified. I was offered a job at Nathan Outlaws restaurant in Rock initially, but trying to find suitable accommodation in Cornwall for myself and family proved very difficult and Devon was where our heart was.
But six months into the job, Jamie's dream was shattered when he was diagnosed with the life-limiting disease, Multiple Sclerosis (MS).
"A few months into my employment I began to have serious vision problems, now known to be optic neuritis – one of the symptoms of MS, where I experienced double vision. This would come in bouts lasting anywhere from a few days to a few weeks.
"I also began to experience debilitating headaches and severe fatigue as well as difficulty in using my right hand. It became impossible to do my job. I was referred from an optician to the hospital and, after a number of tests, MRI scans and a lumbar puncture, a consultant confirmed I had Multiple Sclerosis.
"To be honest, we had no idea what MS was. Essentially, it effects your nervous system, so anything that has a nerve attached to it! Some days it'll be my eyes, other days my legs or my hands just don't work properly. There are days when I just have such extreme fatigue that I literally feel empty.
"We had dreamed and planned of a life in Devon with our children and developing my career as a chef and it felt like it had all been taken away from us. I think when you are diagnosed with a life-altering condition, you go through a period of grief for the life you 'should' have had.
"I felt down as I could not provide for my family, we had a newborn baby and a little girl. I was placed on so many medications that I lost all love for life and my passion for food.
"My lack of movement and side effects of drugs meant I put on five stone and the medication left me with a permanently cloudy head. For a time, I very rarely left the house.
"I knew that working for someone else was never going to work in the future because of the unpredictable nature of MS, I would constantly be letting people down and the thought of never working again sent me into a further depression.
"But a couple of years ago, I made the decision that I could no longer let his control my life. With two little rugrats on the loose, it's just not an option.
"Two years after my diagnosis and having had to stop work as a chef, life became very dark. Rather than living I was just existing. Realising my body couldn't sustain the rigours of full-time work and with the unpredictability of my MS, I really needed an outlet, a daily focus you find through work. It was then I really started thinking and wanting to do something I could work with my MS.
One night, Jamie was awake searching the internet for alternative treatments for MS and diet continually came to the forefront.
"There was so much conflicting information about different diets, most of which you had to subscribe to or pay for. I then came across the OMS diet, this one was not for profit. It essentially means living a vegan diet and cutting out all processed foods. I could no longer just exist I needed to start living again so I gave it a go.
"It was at this point I made a decision, I needed to get my life back. I decided overnight to stop taking the medication – which, knowing what I know now, I would strongly advise you see your doctor first – and manage my MS through diet alone. So I started cooking again.
"Initially, the energy boost and the way eating this way made me feel was incredible, I felt like a new man and slowly weaned myself off the 15 medications I was on.
Anyone who has dieted – and let's face it, that's the majority of us – will understand it is the repetition that is the downfall. This is exactly what Jamie has managed to combat.
"Food can get pretty bland and pretty boring very quickly and this needed to be a change for life for me so I began to create seasonings to not just create flavour but for ease of use, reducing the time spent in the kitchen. It brought back my passion for food but for life too.
Using no 'hidden nasties', The Greedy Fox now has a selection of flavours in the range with special merchandise in the pipeline. In essence, what Jamie created was a multiple-use meal kit with each pouch of flavour lasting for four-to-five meals without being tied to just one recipe. The website supplies over 100 recipes, all suggestions to accompany the flavours.
Jamie reflects on the ups and downs of, not only running a business, but doing it whilst suffering with a debilitating illness.
"Undoubtedly, the toughest part of running my own business is never knowing what daily obstacles MS will throw at me. This makes planning for the immediate future very difficult. Days spent in bed are days usually spent researching recipe ideas," he explains.
"Hearing positive feedback though, from my personal story, is always the nicest part of my day. Obviously, seeing and hearing people using The Greedy Fox seasonings to create either my little recipes or free-styling and creating their own is amazing and something that makes me so proud.
So many people in this world are dealt a rough hand but the ones, like Jamie, who fight back with gumption and discernment are the real treasures in our society.
"The Greedy Fox will always mean much more to me and my family than a business. It has given me back my life, a purpose and my pride," Jamie says.
"Using food to manage my MS has given me back control of my illness. I am no longer controlled by doctors and medicines. Most of all, it gives me an opportunity to show my kids that no matter what life throws at you, you should get back up, be grateful for what you have and turn the bad stuff into positive stuff.
"It also means I am able to teach my children the value of working. I never wanted them to be asked what daddy does and for them to say, 'Oh, he's poorly.' Now, when they are asked they say, 'My Daddy runs his own business.' I work day-in-day-out in the business with my wife, Gemma.
Love this story! What a legend.
What an inspirational story! Lovely to meet you guys and superbly written by Kate Williams.


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