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Isabel Vilela, Head of IR and Corp. Comm., GoviEx Uranium Inc. Discusses Becoming a Significant Uranium Producer, with its Permitted, Madaouela Project in Niger, Mine-Permitted Mutanga Project in Zambia, and Multi-Element Falea Project, in Mali
By Dr. Allen Alper, PhD Economic Geology and Petrology, Columbia University, NYC, USA
We spoke with Isabel Vilela, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications for GoviEx Uranium Inc. (TSX-V: GXU; OTCQX: GVXXF), a mineral resource Company, focused on the exploration and development of uranium properties in Africa. GoviEx's principal objective is to become a significant uranium producer, through the continued exploration and development of its flagship, mine-permitted, Madaouela Project in Niger, its mine-permitted Mutanga Project in Zambia, and its multi-element Falea Project, in Mali. In 2021, the Company upgraded to the OTCQX from the OTCQB. According to Isabel Vilela, the feasibility study on the Madaouela Project is expected in mid-2022, and the mine is expected to be operating by 2025.
Dr. Allen Alper: This is Dr. Allen Alper, Editor-in-Chief of Metals News, talking with Isabel Vilela, who is Head of Investor Relations for GoviEx. Isabel, could you start by giving our readers/investors an overview of GoviEx and what differentiates it from others.
Isabel Vilela:GoviEx is an African-focused development Company, listed in Canada. Unlike most of our competitors, we have a portfolio of assets. Two of our projects are already mine-permitted; the Madaouela Project in Niger and the Mutanga Project in Zambia. We also have a third project in Mali, called the Falea Project, which is more of an exploration play. We already have a very large mineral resource, but our properties contain considerable exploration upside.
I could also tell you a little bit about Africa because I think that's relevant. All of our projects are in Africa, Niger is a well-recognized uranium producing country, being the fourth or fifth largest producer since the 70s. It has a very good standard mining code which hasn't changed since 2006. We have operated in Niger since 2007 and we have had a really good experience there. I think it's a very stable country, with a perception of risk that's not always what we experience. Zambia is a typically copper mining country, which has been looking at diversifying its commodity mix. The new government seems very keen on mining and seems to be creating the right environment to attract mining companies. Mali is now the fourth largest gold producer in Africa and is advancing through as a mining jurisdiction.
The most interesting project we have now is the Madaouela Project, or at least it's the one that is closest to development. We own 80% of it, and the Niger government owns about 20% of it. It's right next to the Orano's mining operations at Cominak, which closed in 2021. It is very close to Somaïr, as well, so we benefit from the infrastructure that has already been put in there. We also have considerable water in Madaouela, so we're lucky in that respect.
We have access to power. But we are also looking at our own power systems and with a solar hybrid option. We have been looking at ways to design the plant to try and reduce our water consumption, even more to maintain a more sensible environmental approach. We've updated our PFS in April, so it's very up to date. We are producing a feasibility study by the end of first half of next year, with a view to get the mine funded by the end of 2022 and operating by 2025.
Dr. Allen Alper: That sounds excellent. You're in a great position, you have great resources and in the area that's familiar with mining. That sounds excellent! Could you tell our readers/investors a little bit about the resources?
Isabel Vilela: Madaouela has about 79 million pounds of uranium, in the indicated category and 31 in measured, so about 110 million in measured and indicated. We are fast tracking our feasibility study in 2021, to target rapid development there. We have mining permits and environmental certificates that are already secured, and we do have a very good infrastructure there.
Dr. Allen Alper: It sounds excellent! Isabel, could you tell our readers/investors the primary accomplishments that were made by GoviEx in 2021 and what your plans are in 2022?
Isabel Vilela: 2021 has been a really great year for us and we have strengthened our Board. We brought in Salma Seetaroo, who is the CEO of a cashew processing plant in the Ivory Coast. Her background is in banking, she used to be part of the Team that did the Paladin financings. We also brought in Eric Krafft, who is a large shareholder and bringing lots of skills in the financing market. He's an experienced businessman. Also of note, is that we've hired Chris Lewis, very well known in the uranium industry. He's our Chief Uranium Marketing. He has a wealth of experience in the field. He has 30 years' experience and he's putting us in front of several utilities. So that's really great, because you can't really score a goal unless you're playing the game.
One of the big accomplishments we did in 2021 was to update our PFS. We've reduced CapEx, OPEX and water consumption. The next steps are to finish our feasibility study, by mid-next year, to be in a position to produce in 2025. We brought in Endeavor Financing to help us on the debt side. We're working really closely with them. They are specialized in the type of jurisdiction that we are in, and I think they will be bringing quite a lot to the table.
We were upgraded to the OTCQX, from the OTCQB. I think that's also important. It shows how we're maturing as a Company. Lastly, we're really focusing on ESG at the moment. I don't think that you will find an employee at GoviEx that is not involved with ESG in some form. We have our management framework plans developed and we're starting to develop structures, so that we can be compliant with different metrics. That is great because this is the time to do this - before you get your mine and so you can develop your ESG as your mine grows and develops.
Dr. Allen Alper: That sounds excellent. Could you tell our readers/investors a little bit about the outlook for the uranium industry?
Isabel Vilela: I think that the real factor, in the uranium industry, is really the fundamentals on the supply side. No matter what you hear, 190 million pounds is being consumed per year and about 128 million pounds being produced. The difference historically had been felt by the secondary market, but that's been tightened a bit, particularly because of Sprott, which is pulling down volumes quite quickly. I think that they've already bought 25 million pounds of uranium this year. Independently of Sprott, which sort of accelerated that supply gap, if you look at the fundamentals, especially with China being heavily investing in nuclear and with everything going on in terms of clean energy.
Without new supply, you are looking at probably around 60 million gap that needs to be filled by 2030. I think that utilities are expecting to see a tightening market. We have a lot of utilities that are not covered from 2024 onwards. I think what's interesting is that we've been seeing several U.S. and European utilities putting out long term RFPs. We've also been seeing an increasing number of RFPs coming out. This is also because the power market shifted a bit and I think utilities are getting a little bit more worried now, because diversity of supply is also a big issue, particularly with the big utilities. They're probably willing to support new production, and that's why our proposal is good. I think that we are well positioned to benefit from that tightening of the market.
Dr. Allen Alper: Well, that sounds great! Could you tell our readers/investors a little bit about your CEO and Chairman?
Isabel Vilela: I think that you've probably met Daniel a few times.
Dr. Allen Alper: Well, I've met and interviewed Daniel Major oh, eight or nine times, so I know him well, he's a fine, wonderful fellow. And of course, your Chairman is well known throughout the industry and the family.
Isabel Vilela: Daniel is a mining engineer. He's had a successful career that spans over 30 years, in the mining industry. He was initially with Rossing Uranium Mine in Namibia, but he also was a very successful mining analyst, with HSBC and JP Morgan. Govind is a Geological Engineer, and he founded the Company in 2007. He's also a co-founder of Ivanhoe Industries.
Dr. Allen Alper: Well, that sounds great. You have a great Team and great background. That's excellent! You have great investors and people, who know the industry, so that's excellent! Could you say a few words about your capital structure?
Isabel Vilela: We've just published numbers actually in Q3. We are really well financed at the moment. We had about $7 million of cash in November, so we are well positioned to go into the next year. I think that we will be looking into raising capital, after we published the results of our feasibility study. But now, we are really well-financed and well positioned to continue the development of our projects and I guess more exciting things will happen once we do publish.
Dr. Allen Alper: That sounds excellent. Isabel, could you tell our readers/investors the primary reasons they should invest in GoviEx?
Isabel Vilela: Apart from having two very good projects that are mine-permitted and are in the process of getting developed, from a market point of view in the previous cycles, Africa has been a good prospect, either for development or take out. We are on the development side, but we recognize there is also a transactional side to our operations. We are in a strong position to benefit from a strong uranium market. The fundamentals are there. On top of that, there is still upside on the exploration side, even though the focus is on developing Madaouela, at the moment. We also have a strong Management Team and a strong Board. So, I'd say that we are a very good proposition at the moment.
Dr. Allen Alper: Those sound like very compelling reasons to consider investing in GoviEx. It looks like uranium will be one of the key factors in providing energy, as the electrification of the world takes place, and they need an alternate to fossil fuel.
Isabel Vilela: Absolutely!
Dr. Allen Alper: Well, that's great! Isabel, is there anything else you'd like to add?
Isabel Vilela: No, I don't think so. I think that we covered pretty much everything. It's great to chat with you.
Dr. Allen Alper:
We'll publish your press releases as they come out so our readers/investors can follow your progress.
https://goviex.com/
Isabel Vilela
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications
Email: info@goviex.com


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The MacBook is off to my local Apple geek business tomorrow. Fingers crossed it can be resolved, because my 2012 MacBook Pro has been a reliable great lap top that I have no desire to upgrade.
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A while back a similar issue emerged for iOS users, so we devised at least a temporary workaround. I've not seen recent reports of the issue now, but that's not to say you're alone. Time will tell what others bring to help desk.
The suggestion here will work only if you get at least the initial embed to display. From your description above, it sounds like that is the case.
When you want to watch one of those embeds, click on it and then click immediately on the little curvy arrow in the upper right corner. You'll then see a display of the URL for the YouTube along with a few icons. Click on the three-dot icon, and a new tab for the YouTube will open. You can then watch and hear the video.
I'll be interested in hearing what happens after your tuneup. I know that it's costly to upgrade to a new device. Are you able to continue to update your OS and your browsers? That's likely more significant for you.
We'll keep an eye out for more reports of video issues on OS. Thanks for your support of the mission of the site.
Still not sure exactly what the issue is, though it may be Safari.. As an experiment Chrome and Firefox have been installed, and I will test them at home for a bit to see if the Youtube video's run without having to reload.
I was just able to comment with Chrome here, so that is a good sign.
Thanks for the update, and please feel free to keep them coming.


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Foreigner's Kelly Hansen Talks Music, Audiences and Vegas
Written by Vicky Sullivan on March 10, 2022 . Posted in Music.
Some rock and roll bands have been lucky enough to have managed longevity and Foreigner is one of those bands that have been going for the last 45 years! Starting in 1977, they churned out hits from "Cold as Ice" to "I Want to Know What Love Is". All of those classic, beloved, rock songs that still bring audiences out to see them in 2022. Kelly Hansen took over the lead singer position in 2005 and has been delivering his high energy moves to the Foreigner catalog. Foreigner is coming to Ruth Eckerd Hall on Monday and at the end of the month into April, they have a residency at the Venetian Theatre in Las Vegas. So if you are headed to visit Sin City be sure and check them out. Kelly Hansen took time to talk to The Suncoast Post before heading to Florida.
SP: Hi Kelly! Looks like you are getting on the road and coming to Florida for a slew of dates including Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater on March 14th.
KH: Yes we are, yea bring it on. I am ready, let's go for it!
SP: Kelly, when I have photographed you in the past, I thought you had a resemblance to Steven Tyler, have people said that to you?
KH: I think that I came from like the Mick Jagger, Rod Stewart, you know, mixture of kind of different front men. You see a move or you see a thing that gets done in a certain way that and you absorb that into your repertoire and that becomes one of your things. But you know, I never studied Steven Tyler or anything like that.
SP: So there is the story of how you did the tape and you sent in your vocals but I was trying to learn, how did that even come about?
KH: In about 91, I was in a band called Hurricane and we got dropped from our label and then I realized that with the with grunge coming in and a different style of music coming in and metal being kind of dead, my voice was really not clean tenor was not really invoked. So I realized I was gonna have to kind of sit out for a while and do other things. I was interested in producing and engineering, songwriting, artist development and all kinds of stuff like that. But after about 10 years of that, it started to really to as far as the returns were diminishing that via the budgets were getting smaller, to make albums 'cause more people were able to make them at home and you get less time to make them and things like that. Then the whole record business changed and label wanting these 360 deals with artists and all again stuff so. It really became more work for less and less. And I said," you know what, maybe I need to go back to what I do best, and that's being a lead singer". So I had a couple of gigs that passed me by, and I hadn't even got the call. I would never like surprised. But then that things didn't just fall on my lap like they always have. So I realize I need to be more proactive about my life and my career and. So I said, "you say yes until I can't say yes anymore". And I was looking around and I I read an article about a charity show that Mick was doing in Santa Barbara with a couple of the guys from Florida. And I wasn't keeping up with Foreigner. I didn't know that they had been dormant for since 2002. But I got in touch with management 'cause I heard about that charity show and I didn't know whether that meant that Mick was doing a new band or soul thing, or whether it was born gonna before and after some back and forth. You know, we got the thing with the whole tape thing and that's kind of how it came about. He was looking for a new voice. I was not happy with where my career was at the time. So, but it was a Serendipity that got us together.
SP: That's really interesting. So were you a Foreigner fan? You know, when Lou was fronting the band?
KH: I was very aware of the band because I really liked the production and the songs. They were, they had they kind of had an R&B based rock sound that that was kind of my background as well. So I'm not a favorite type of person. I just like things individually for what they are. So that was my experience with Foreigner as well. But I was very aware of them.
SP: I've watched you many times through the lens and you're just a great front man for that music and obviously have helped keep the band going since 2005! What it was like for you to work with Lou Gramm , Dennis Elliott and the other original members when you guys did the 40th Anniversary tour?
KH: Well, it was great. I mean with to work with everybody, the whole group. Yeah. I mean, it was really great. We've met some of the guys before and that kind of thing and but everybody was very generous and very giving. And we were very friendly and Lou gave me, you know, all the ropes that I was looking for. He was very open to any suggestion that I had and it was just all very, very cool, you know? And it was great to be able to work with people who we have so much respect for. And we were able to, you know, hang out and have drinks and talk about what guitar did you play on this part of this song or what was your amp setting for this song or things like that? You know that musicians do and, and so they were great. I mean, I think that's the true way that musicians should be, is that they're word comrades, you know, and we all share a commonality in this song catalog. And so I think that kind of binds us in a way.
SP: I saw that you guys are going to be doing a residency at the Venetian in Las Vegas. Have you played there before? So what is that like for you guys, is there a difference in the audience in doing a residency than just a regular show?
KH:. That's correct. Yes, we have played the Venetian before. Well, there are many things that are different about doing residency, and there are many different kinds of audiences. There's the hard tickets concert audience. There's the State Fair audience who, like, bought a ticket and there's a band playing there and they don't really know who it is. You know, there's all different types of situations and you have to be, as a fun manner to perform, right. I'm kind of like an MC. So I have to kind of treat and handle those audiences differently. And the thing about Vegas is that the audience is comprised usually of people from all over the country, all over the world, all in the same room at the same time. They're all looking to have a really good time 'cause, that's why they're coming to Vegas. They're usually not too complacent. They're usually up for it and the thing is, for us is that because we're gonna be playing in the same place for so long, you know, all the stuff stays set up so we can kind of stretch out a little bit. Maybe do some more interesting things that we can't do in the regular show night after night when we're traveling the country. So there's a lot of differences to be sure. Wherever it is, we go to play,
I make the joke that I'm famous for that day in the casino. Because all the people that are in the casino that day know that you're gonna play, are they gonna come see you? So all of a sudden you're famous. More famous than you normally are for that day (laughs) and because of just how I have to take care of myself, I'm not out a lot like I'm not downstairs in the bar, you know, meeting people and hanging out. So I'm not really a part of that whole team too much.
SP: Now you live, you live out in LA. Are you free to kind of move around there? You don't get really spotted too much on the street there.
KH: Well, you know, I'm in this zone of not very famous, but in some circles, kind of famous and but in L.A. it's never been. Most people are just like if you're in the entertainment business, L.A. is really easy on you because I see big stars all the time here in L.A., you know, and it's like it's not so big of a deal. It's kind of cool because you have certain amount of anonymity. That's correct, right to where if don't have that, you know, the insanity that goes on.
KH: I hate to ask this question 'cause. I'm sure you've had it a zillion times. Is there any particular Foreigner song that's a favorite for you to sing?
KH: Well, like I said before, I'm not a favorite type of person, but some days I'm in the mood for an apple. Some days I'm in the mood for an orange and OK and some days we are great on one song or groove, really great on another song, but every night is different because the situation is different and the ambience is different. Outdoors, indoors, as a very great drive is the audience really close up to you or are they far away? All those things are variables that make each night completely different and that means you have to handle them completely differently as well. So I've just been lucky to have been speaking of apples and oranges, I'm just lucky to have this, this beautiful basket of ripe fruit that I get to choose from and eat from on a nightly basis. SP: It's a great gig. KH: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it! You can check out everything Foreigner at Foreigner online
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Posnanski: Baseball 100 Rules
In this era of reboots, it was perhaps inevitable that Joe Posnanski would take another crack at the 100 greatest players in major league history.
The Baseball 100 is more than just a ranking system to me. The difference between my 78th ranked player and my 212th ranked player is so miniscule that it's mathematically irrelevant. With one slight adjustment, I could have those two players switch places.
Nearly all of the series is to be pay walled, but Zach Greinke is No. 100 on the list.
In the original version of this list, I included a bunch of Negro leaguers — I can tell you that four were in my Top 20. I still believe this. But Negro leaguers will now be a major part of my corresponding Shadowball 100….It's an eclectic list that includes players who are, in their own ways, larger than life.
No. 100 on this list is Duane Kuiper.
Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 24, 2018 at 08:01 AM | 407 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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301. the Centaur Nipple Paradox (CoB). Posted: May 06, 2019 at 10:25 PM (#5838991)
302. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: May 07, 2019 at 09:39 AM (#5839098)
so miniscule
Just for fun, try learning how to spell.
303. Ithaca2323 Posted: May 07, 2019 at 10:39 AM (#5839135)
Just about two months since Posnanski dropped a new name in his series. That's pretty funny, considering the history. Thomas was literally tied with Bagwell in Posnanski's previous try, so you wouldn't think No. 80 would be a real stumper.
Par for the course for Posnanski.
But it's one of the reasons I didn't pay for his site. I find some of his stuff interesting (like this project) and others not so. So although I'm very interested in the Baseball 100, I was wary of essentially paying for that and then going through one—or many—of his dry spells while he writes about his love of television commercials.
According to his post here, his plan was to do two of those posts a week, which would get us through the list in a year. Well, he started on August 18, so we're 37 weeks into the relaunch...and he's done 22 names. Maybe it's going to pick back up again. But it's Posnanski, so I highly doubt it. I think he's going to go through a spurt like he's doing now, then another dry spell, and hopefully if we're lucky it won't take so long he needs to relaunch it again.
I get it, it's his site, his rules. But like I said, it's one of the reasons I hesitated to pay for his new site.
304. Howie Menckel Posted: May 07, 2019 at 10:49 AM (#5839141)
In the original version of this list, I included a bunch of Negro leaguers — I can tell you that four were in my Top 20. I still believe this. But Negro leaguers will now be a major part of my corresponding Shadowball 100…
segregation then, segregation now, segregation forever!
#sigh
305. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 07, 2019 at 10:58 AM (#5839155)
false equivalencies then, false equivalencies now, false equivalencies forever!
#same old same old
306. Rennie's Tenet Posted: May 07, 2019 at 01:25 PM (#5839258)
Re the Negro Leaguers: in his first 70 or so picks the first time around, Posnanski chose five Negro Leaguers: Bell, Rogan, Leonard, Joe Williams, and Stearnes, and presumably would have added Paige, Gibson, Charleston, and at least one of Lloyd and Dihigo. (Irvin and Campanella counted as major leaguers). As strongly as he seems to be timelining, probably half of these guys would be gone, and I'm guessing that part of the motivation for the Shadowball thing is to discuss more than half-a-dozen Negro League players in the course of the project.
78. Santo
77. Jeter
76. Fergie Jenkins
310. Rennie's Tenet Posted: June 05, 2019 at 05:58 PM (#5848743)
Posnanski is working on about a three-year pace (the Shadowball thing is even father behind), so I'm going to stop checking in for a while. These are the players he's chosen so far, by position:
SP: Greinke, Santana, Vance, Verlander, Mussina, Niekro, Jenkins
RP: Rivera
c: Fisk, Rodriguez, Carter
1b: Mize, McCovey, Thomas
2b: Gehringer, Whitaker, Sandberg, Frisch
Biggio,
3b: Santo
ss: Utley, Trammell, Ozzie, Jeter
lf: J. Jackson
cf: Beltran
rf: Gwynn
Lots of infielders, lots of recent players.
311. Rennie's Tenet Posted: July 17, 2019 at 09:04 PM (#5862757)
Posnanski's been cranking them out pretty steadily, down to Juan Marichal at No. 68. This is the full list so far:
100. Greinke, Gehringer, Fisk, Santana, Utley, Vance, Gwynn, 93. (tie) Trammell/Whitaker, Verlander, 91. Joe Jackson
90. Mize, McCovey, Beltran, Mussina, Sandberg, I. Rodriguez, Ozzie, Frisch, Rivera, 81. Thomas
80. Gary Carter, Niekro, Santo, Jeter, Jenkins, L. Walker, B. Robinson, Greenberg, Roberts, 71. Ichiro
70. Ryan, Yount, 68. Marichal
Still just six players who I never saw play live, plus Roberts who was just hanging on in the mid-Sixties.
The first 34 players break down into two plausible teams:
100.-85.:
C: Fisk, I. Rodriguez
1B: McCovey, Mize
IF: Sandberg, Trammell, Whitaker, Utley, Gehringer
OF: Beltran, J. Jackson, Gwynn
SP: Mussina, Verlander, Vance, Santana, Greinke
84.-68.:
C: Carter
1B: Greenberg, Thomas
IF: B. Robinson, Jeter, Santo, Frisch, Ozzie
OF: Ichiro, Yount, L. Walker
SP: Ryan, Roberts, Jenkins, Niekro, Marichal
My intuitiion is that the first team is probably a match for the second, if everyone is playing at peak level.
312. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 16, 2019 at 09:24 PM (#5872040)
67. Robinson Cano. The first 35 players include 10 infielders who were at their peaks in the expansion era.
Just passed the anniversary of the choice of Greinke at No. 100.
313. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 01, 2019 at 09:20 AM (#5876076)
66. Ernie Banks
The overall pace of selections points to a revelation of No. 1 in July, 2021. The pace sustained during 2019 would push that back to December, 2021. The August pace (1) projects to a conclusion in early 2025. Mike Trout might be a reasonable No. 1 by then.
314. phredbird Posted: September 01, 2019 at 08:01 PM (#5876206)
well, actually 'miniscule' is a variant that has been around since the late 19th century, and generally accepted. if i was copy editing, i'd probably want to go with 'minuscule', but if the writer insisted it's okay, i'd leave it to the head of the desk. IIRC, we generally wanted to stick with the first spelling in whatever dictionary we were relying on. i suspect posnanski gets a light edit.
315. Howie Menckel Posted: September 01, 2019 at 10:27 PM (#5876244)
at this point, it seems like the vanity project of all vanity projects.
maybe it just wasn't meant to be.
316. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 29, 2019 at 07:41 PM (#5884458)
New plan: after the World Series, Posnanski is going to change the project to a daily. The first 35 articles will be the ones he's already done, but updated. So there won't be any new picks until December. The "Shadowball" part of the project has been abandoned, but he's going to count down the top 20 Negro Leaguers next February.
317. Baldrick Posted: September 29, 2019 at 07:49 PM (#5884460)
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
318. Rennie's Tenet Posted: November 21, 2019 at 09:30 PM (#5903081)
Now set to begin around the first of the year, with all content at the Athletic. Posnanski is going back to the top 100 players from any league, and is changing up the ranking formula a bit, so this seems to be v.3.0.
319. Howie Menckel Posted: November 21, 2019 at 10:43 PM (#5903087)
320. Baldrick Posted: December 17, 2019 at 12:12 PM (#5909285)
This is now being advertised at The Athletic: "Over the next 100 days, I will be counting down the 100 greatest baseball players in history"
Given that TA is a real company with actual editors and things, I have a feeling it might actually happen this time. I wonder if they demanded that he literally finish the whole thing before they would even let him publish the first one.
I perversely kind of hope it fizzles out again, in the same way that I take joy from Lucy and Charlie Brown.
321. bbmck Posted: December 17, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5909305)
Advertising ~2000 words per player.
322. Howie Menckel Posted: December 17, 2019 at 01:25 PM (#5909313)
323. Baldrick Posted: December 18, 2019 at 08:47 AM (#5909470)
It has in fact officially started. Ichiro is now #100.
Sure, there are big differences between these players, but the similarities are plain. There are only so many ways to throw a baseball, hit a baseball, field a baseball, run the bases. And, here's the thing: Even if you are unique, that distinctiveness inspires imitators. Babe Ruth was unique, surely, for the way he swung for the fences. But soon there was Lou Gehrig, and then Foxx and Hank Greenberg and Roger Maris and Barry Bonds. You can only be truly unique for so long.
That is: Unless you're Ichiro Suzuki.
There has never been one like him. And there probably never will be again.
324. Rennie's Tenet Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:50 AM (#5909482)
He wrote a week ago:
I am working nonstop on the Baseball 100, which will start on Dec. 17. One hundred players in 100 days! I am trying, desperately trying, to get ahead but this is going to make the two-homer march look like nothing — I'm truly nuts for trying to pull this one off. But I'm going to do it!
He did about 70 the first time around five years ago, and about 35 (some overlapping) this last time. You'd think that he'd have quite a leg up.
Ichiro was No. 96 the first time around, with Sadaharu Oh the only NPB player ranked above him; and, No. 71 in the recent one, which was confined to major leaguers.
325. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: December 18, 2019 at 11:16 AM (#5909539)
Ichiro was No. 96 the first time around, with Sadaharu Oh the only NPB player ranked above him
Where Ichiro would have rated in NPB history if he had stayed in Japan is an interesting question. (And surely one that plenty of Japanese baseball fans have spent lots of time on.). It's hard to imagine him passing Oh, Nomura, or Kaneda. Beyond that I don't have very definite feelings. Nagashima had quite a bit more power. Ochiai and Kawakami were better hitters just all around, but they were also first basemen. One crucial question is how he would have aged if he had stayed in Japan.
100: Ichiro
99: Mussina
98: Beltran
97: Alomar
My favorite has been the Beltran one for the quotes, which I'm sure I must have encountered before but didn't remember:
"You know what blew me away," Brian Anderson would say. "There was no way he could catch that ball. No way. And then, he not only catches it, he catches it by his side. He doesn't have to dive. He doesn't have to stretch. I've never seen anything like it."
"I've been to two hog killings and a county fair," pitcher Curt Leskanic said. "And I haven't seen anything like what Beltrán did tonight."
327. PreservedFish Posted: December 21, 2019 at 07:45 AM (#5910268)
Ichiro played more games than Alomar. That's really something.
328. Rennie's Tenet Posted: December 23, 2019 at 07:33 PM (#5910741)
96. Larry Walker
95. Tony Gwynn
Babe Ruth is not unique - but Ichiro is?
I guess Ichiro could have been unique if he wanted to be - and he did, so he is?
330. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: December 23, 2019 at 08:19 PM (#5910751)
Ichiro is as unique as one rat fucking in a wool sock.
331. TomH Posted: December 24, 2019 at 09:13 AM (#5910798)
I signed up for joe p monthly subscription, in order to view his top 100, and interact with he and his other readers. But it seems like now I still need an Athletic subscription.... is that correct? Or am I missing something?
But it seems like now I still need an Athletic subscription.... is that correct?
I think you do. I'm just seeing the names in his Twitter feed.
94. Roy Campanella.
93. Ozzie
92. Bullet Rogan
334. Blastin Posted: December 27, 2019 at 09:55 AM (#5911179)
91 is Mariano.
335. Blastin Posted: December 28, 2019 at 12:16 PM (#5911387)
90 is Scherzer
From above, these are the picks he got through last time around (major leaguers only):
100. Greinke, 99. Gehringer, 98. Fisk, 97. Santana, 96. Utley, 95. Vance, 94. Gwynn, 93. (tie) Trammell/Whitaker, 92. Verlander, 91. Joe Jackson, 90. Mize, 89. McCovey, 88. Beltran, 87. Mussina, 86. Sandberg, 85. I. Rodriguez, 84. Ozzie, 83. Frisch, 82. Rivera, 81. Thomas, 80. Gary Carter, 79. Niekro, 78. Santo, 77. Jeter, 76. Jenkins, 75. L. Walker, 74. B. Robinson, 73. Greenberg, 72. Roberts, 71. Ichiro, 70. Ryan, 69. Yount, 68. Marichal, 67. Cano, 66. Banks
These are his picks from the first time around, c. 2013-16. Everyone was eligible:
100. Curt Schilling, 99. Cool Papa Bell, 98. Ron Santo, 97. Lou Whitaker , 96. Ichiro Suzuki, 95. Mariano Rivera, 94. Paul Waner, 93. Craig Biggio, 92. Old Hoss Radbourn, 91. Robin Roberts, 90. Mark McGwire, 89. Bullet Rogan, 88. Tim Raines, 87. Nolan Ryan, 86. Miguel Cabrera, 85. Barry Larkin's, 84. Frankie Frisch, 83. Gaylord Perry, 82. Roberto Alomar, 81. Joe Jackson, 80. Johnny Mize, 79. Smokey Joe Williams, 78. Ryne Sandberg, 77. Ozzie Smith, 76. Buck Leonard, 75. Tony Gwynn, 74. Hank Greenberg, 73. Arky Vaughan, 72. Willie McCovey, 71. Monte Irvin, 70. Duke Snider, 69. Sadaharu Oh, 68. Bert Blyleven, 67. Harmon Killebrew, 66. Roy Campanella, 65. Kid Nichols, 64. Eddie Murray, 63. Charlie Gehringer, 62. Robin Yount, 61. (tie) Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell, 60. Brooks Robinson, 59. Reggie Jackson, 58. Turkey Stearnes, 57. (fictional) Roy Hobbs, 57. Derek Jeter, 56. Chipper Jones, 55. Ernie Banks, 54. Rod Carew, 53. Steve Carlton, 52. Wade Boggs, 51. Ken Griffey Jr., 50. Al Kaline, 49. Nap Lajoie, 48. Bob Feller, 47. Albert Pujols, 46. Sandy Koufax, 45. Yogi Berra, 44. Pedro Martinez, 43. Warren Spahn, 42. Jackie Robinson, 41. Pete Rose, 40. Eddie Collins, 39. Bob Gibson, 38. Eddie Mathews, 37. Roberto Clemente, 36. Yaz, 35. Cal Ripken, 34. Mel Ott, 33. George Brett, 32. Grover Cleveland Alexander
He also did an article where he said he just forgot about Trammell, but didn't assign him a place.
He also did an article where he said he just forgot about Trammell
339. Rennie's Tenet Posted: January 01, 2020 at 09:26 AM (#5912098)
89. Piazza
88. Schilling
87. Gehringer
86. Carter
I remember working with a young Mets fan when Carter died. He was intrigued when I was telling him what a magnificent thrower Carter was when he was young. No wasted movement, every throw straight as an arrow.
340. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: January 01, 2020 at 07:09 PM (#5912205)
There are some major discrepancies between the current list and the original one. Gehringer, Gwynn, and Campanella all fell over 20 spots. Larkin appears to have fallen off the list (based on the Alomar writeup, Larkin won't make the cut). Meanwhile Schilling has jumped 12 spots. Piazza and Carter went from unranked to 89 and 86. It's hard to see a trend aside from possibly downgrading the old guys.
341. bbmck Posted: January 01, 2020 at 10:13 PM (#5912240)
Assuming ~10 non-MLB players:
C: Johnny Bench and Yogi Berra are the only two remaining locks. 86 Gary Carter, 89 Mike Piazza, 94 Roy Campanella. Carlton Fisk and Ivan Rodriguez need to appear soon or are out.
Debut before 1901: Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, Cap Anson, Cy Young, Kid Nichols, Christy Mathewson. Really hard to make a case for Top ~75 MLB players for anyone else.
Debut 1901-1946: Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Eddie Collins, Ted Williams, Lou Gehrig, Mel Ott, Jimmie Foxx, Joe DiMaggio, Walter Johnson, Pete Alexander, Eddie Plank, Lefty Grove, Warren Spahn, Bob Feller. When 87 Charlie Gehringer appeared it likely means no Luke Appling, Arky Vaughan, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Red Faber, Carl Hubbell, Hal Newhouser.
Non-C MLB position players debut 1947-1989: Barry Bonds, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Rickey Henderson, Mickey Mantle, Frank Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Joe Morgan, Eddie Mathews, Carl Yastrzemski, Cal Ripken Jr, Roberto Clemente, Al Kaline, Wade Boggs, George Brett, Ken Griffey Jr, Rod Carew, Pete Rose, Brooks Robinson, Reggie Jackson, Jackie Robinson, 93 Ozzie Smith, 95 Tony Gwynn, 96 Larry Walker, 97 Roberto Alomar
Excluded or revealed soon: Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Lou Whitaker, Rafael Palmeiro, Bobby Grich, Alan Trammell, Ron Santo, Tim Raines, Eddie Murray
Non-C MLB position players debut 1990-2019: Alex Rodriguez, Albert Pujols, Adrian Beltre, Chipper Jones, Jeff Bagwell, Frank Thomas, Mike Trout, Derek Jeter, 98 Carlos Beltran, 100 Ichiro Suzuki
Excluded or revealed soon: Jim Thome, Scott Rolen, Miguel Cabrera, Robinson Cano, Manny Ramirez, Kenny Lofton, Chase Utley, Joey Votto, David Ortiz
MLB pitchers debut 1947-1979: Tom Seaver, Bert Blyleven, Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, Robin Roberts, Bob Gibson, Fergie Jenkins, Sandy Koufax, Jim Palmer, Juan Marichal, Whitey Ford
Excluded or revealed soon: Phil Niekro, Gaylord Perry, Don Sutton
MLB pitchers debut 1980-2019: Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Tom Glavine, Kevin Brown, Justin Verlander, Zack Greinke, John Smoltz, Clayton Kershaw, Roy Halladay, 88 Curt Schilling, 90 Max Scherzer, 91 Mariano Rivera, 99 Mike Mussina
Excluded or revealed soon: CC Sabathia, David Cone, Andy Pettitte, Bret Saberhagen
If/once Poz does 40 articles in the latest version of the list the rest of the names should be pretty straight forward. Derek Jeter is probably the only MLB player with a reasonable chance of being both Top 60 and off the list.
342. TomH Posted: January 02, 2020 at 08:36 AM (#5912277)
bbmck, EXCELLENT analysis!
a few thoughts, altho I need to say up front, if I tried the same as you, there would be many more nit-picks with my assessment:
1) If you have Anson in top 100, contemps Connor and Brouthers are not easy to eliminate. Anson played longer, but others were better by rate, esepcially Brouthers.
2) It's hard to envision a top 100 without Arky Vaughan. Six times in the top 2 or 3 position players in the league, by WAR. Top 100 career by WAR even though he "retired" after age 31 and obviously could have played much longer. Bill James Win Shares shows with a peak only 2nd to Wagner among shortstops. I'd take him over Jeter.
3) Jim Thome is another guy I could see (like Jeter) either out of 100, or in the top 60. His bb-ref "situational wins added" is 15th all-time. Oh, and 612 home runs.
4) Ditto above for Koufax; top 20 by peak/prime, well outside of 100 by career eval.
When I was following this the first around, it was pretty clear that Anson would be eliminated. Since Posnanski was down near No. 30 when he stopped, Anson would have to be 70 spots better than contemporaries to make the top 30. If after anything, it seems Posnanski's timelining is more extreme now than then.
344. Rally Posted: January 02, 2020 at 09:21 AM (#5912285)
It's hard to envision a top 100 without Arky Vaughan. Six times in the top 2 or 3 position players in the league, by WAR. Top 100 career by WAR even though he "retired" after age 31 and obviously could have played much longer.
Looking at the record, he played in 1943 (a good season), retired, and came back in 1947. I always assumed just from the years that he went into the military at the time, but looking at his SABR bio, that's not the case. He just didn't want to play for Durocher.
345. Blastin Posted: January 02, 2020 at 09:56 AM (#5912294)
There are few people in the history of the sport I loathe more than Anson, so, hey.
He just didn't want to play for Durocher.
Weird little thing: Vaughan came back for 1947, while Leo was suspended very close to Opening Day (Vaughan pinch hit on Opening Day). Leo was involved in a lot of different controversies, so I wonder if everyone in baseball knew he'd be suspended months before it was official?
SABR bio just says Rickey convinced him to return. To be ready for opening day I'd have to assume he was willing to play for Durocher by this time. He remained with the team in 1948 when Durocher returned, so I guess after 3 years off he had cooled down, or missed the game enough, and was willing to put up with Leo.
348. Rennie's Tenet Posted: January 02, 2020 at 03:15 PM (#5912407)
85. Sadaharu Oh
84. Cool Papa Bell
350. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: January 03, 2020 at 11:00 AM (#5912618)
I seem to recall from his first essay that Pos was ambivalent about concluding that Arky Vaughan quit because of Durocher. Something about his son telling a reporter that his dad had told him that Durocher was a good manager.
If Vaughan was ranked 73 the first time around, I bet he doesn't get ranked 83 or lower here.
351. Baldrick Posted: January 03, 2020 at 04:58 PM (#5912711)
I'm enjoying the list very much, but every time I make the mistake of letting my gaze wander into the comments I'm reminded of what a hellscape it is trying to talk about baseball literally anywhere except here.
So basically: thanks, Primates, for two decades (dear god, really?) of insightful comments and conversation.
352. Baldrick Posted: January 04, 2020 at 11:18 AM (#5912803)
The Niekro one today is really wonderful. Probably my favorite so far.
83. Phil Niekro
82. Kid Nichols
81. Ferguson Jenkins
354. TomH Posted: January 06, 2020 at 03:07 PM (#5913296)
reflects heavy time-lining.
Kid Nichols has the 4th highest WAR ever; larger than Mathewson, Grove, Alexander. Even though he missed seasons simply because he preferred "retiring" and playing in some western league. He isn't all that far from contemporary Cy Young. He was the best pitcher around 4 years in a 9-year stretch.
Meanwhile, Fergie Jenkins is 24th in pitcher WAR, with a fine prime between 1967-72, where he was consistently the 2nd-to-10th best NL arm.
355. alilisd Posted: January 06, 2020 at 04:09 PM (#5913322)
From 1890-1894 Kid Nichols exceeded 400 IP every season, yet finished 5, 6, 5, 2, and 5th in IP in the NL in those seasons. In the first 3 of those seasons he was pitching from only 50 feet away. For contrast, Jenkins from 1967-1972 threw 289, 301, 311, 325, and 289 and finished 3, 2, 5, 2, 1, and 2nd in IP in the NL in those seasons. Jenkins actually rated a bit higher in terms of where he placed relative to his league in IP despite throwing only about 75% of the innings Nichols did. Nichols from 1890-1895 to make it 6 seasons as the prime you listed for Jenkins was 6 seasons, Nichols threw 390 IP in 1895, 267 CG in 279 GS to Jenkins 140 CG in 234 GS. Jenkins has just over half the number of CG while making 88% of the number of GS Nichols did. Jenkins prime is in an era which is very low offense, and which is known for pitchers throwing much higher innings totals than in the decades preceding and the decades following. For example, from 1930-1959 there were only 40 seasons of at least 300 IP, all but 10 of which led the league, from 1990-2019 there were none. While from 1960-1989 there were 66, and 36 of those did not lead the league. Clearly the relative strain, or demand on pitchers arms, and by extension the difficulty of pitching, is much greater by the time Jenkins is pitching in the NL compared to the time when Nichols was pitching in the NL. This only scratches the surface as level of competition has only been hinted at here, while such things as coast to coast travel with games in three different time zones, sometimes on consecutive days, relative to games only in the Eastern and Central time zones, no more than one hour difference instead of up to three hours. I don't think that's particularly heavy timelining at all.
alislisd, there is no doubt Jenkins was a very durable pitcher; more of a "horse" in his day than Nichols.
But the difference between the two arms is QUALITY. Nichols career ERA+ is 140. Jenkins is 115. Jenkins had ONE season in the top in ERA+. One. Nichols led his league regularly.
And do you think he would have even had a job in 1967? Take a look at the leading hitters in the NL in 1967, 75% of the top 20 by OPS+, and none of the top 5, would not have been eligible/available to play in 1890. Look at Nichols height and weight, I'm not saying they're necessarily precise, but he's short and slight. Maybe he's Pedro Martinez, but it's far more likely he tops out before ever setting foot on an MLB field. It's not simply a question of quality but of quality relative to what level of competition
358. bbmck Posted: January 07, 2020 at 02:58 AM (#5913452)
Assuming the MLB pitchers in the 1st list Top 31 are in order of debut: Cy Young, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux and Randy Johnson
32 Pete Alexander
39 Bob Gibson
43 Warren Spahn
46 Sandy Koufax
48 Bob Feller
53 Steve Carlton
65 Kid Nichols (now 82nd)
68 Bert Blyleven
83 Gaylord Perry
87 Nolan Ryan - goes up to 70th
91 Robin Roberts - goes up to 72nd
92 Old Hoss Radbourn
95 Mariano Rivera - goes up to 82nd (now 91st)
100 Curt Schilling (now 88th)
Presumably not on 1st list but on 2nd list: 68th Juan Marichal, 76th Fergie Jenkins (now 81st), 79th Phil Niekro (now 83rd), 87th Mike Mussina (now 99th), 95th Dazzy Vance and 97th Johan Santana.
Quite possibly on neither list: Jim Palmer, Roy Halladay, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz
Clayton Kershaw has 1180 IP and 32.9 pitching WAR when the first list starts, 92nd Justin Verlander 1772 and 40.7 and 100th Zack Greinke 1669.2 and 35.5. I'll assume Kershaw is on the 2nd list, Halladay doesn't pitch after the first list begins.
By WAR-MVP Shares which Sean Forman made (public) when he made his HoF ballot it's pretty much all early pitchers being excluded: Jim McCormick, Al Spalding, John Clarkson, Ed Walsh, Tim Keefe, Tommy Bond, Eddie Plank, Amos Rusie, Joe McGinnity, Bobby Matthews, Vic Willis, Rube Waddell, Jim Whitney, Bob Caruthers, Nap Rucker, Pud Galvin, Charlie Buffington, Tony Mullane, Candy Cummings, Noodles Hahn and Mickey Welch who debut in 1907 or earlier and are Top 50 and ties for starting pitchers which takes 2.4 WAR-MVP Shares and most likely aren't on any list. Poz: I lean toward players who were great at their peak, even if that peak only lasted a short time, and lean away from those who were consistently but not toweringly good for a long time.
The most recent pitchers with 2.4+ WAR-MVP Shares who might not make any list:
Roy Halladay 3.3 WAR-MVP Shares, 64.3 pitching WAR, -1.2 batting WAR
Carl Hubbell 3.1, 68.3, -0.4
Hal Newhouser 3, 62.5, 2.6
Wes Ferrell 2.7, 60.7, 11.8
Jim Bunning 2.5, 59.4, -0.9
Bucky Walters 2.5, 45.8, 6.9
Dizzy Dean 2.5, 45.8, 2.2
Dave Stieb 2.4, 56.4, -0.1
Wilbur Cooper 2.4, 53.5, 4.7
Making at least one list below 2.4:
Johan Santana 2.3, 51.7, 0.6
Fergie Jenkins 2.2, 84.1, 2
Juan Marichal 2.2, 62.9, 1.1
Max Scherzer 2.2, 60.3, 1.7 (now 90th)
Curt Schilling 1.9, 79.5, -1
Sandy Koufax 1.9, 48.9, -4.2
Zack Greinke 1.8, 71.7, 5
Mike Mussina 1.7, 82.8, 0
Nolan Ryan 1.6, 81.2, -2.3
Mariano Rivera 0, 56.2, 0
Koufax's lack of an MVP peak relatively speaking is surprising. Modern pitchers are probably only being compared to pitchers so would have a peak that rates much higher than WAR-MVP Shares suggests except of course for Rivera who is an exception by multiple standards to make the list. Stieb and earlier pitchers generally have an advantage relative to position players to accumulate WAR in a season and of course really early pitchers have a really big advantage.
1871-1920: 1379 seasons of 1000+ Batters Faced, 380 of 1500+ BF and 110 of 2000+ BF
1921-1989: 1465 seasons of 1000+ BF, 1923 George Uhle, 1946 Bob Feller, 1971 Mickey Lolich and 1973 Wilbur Wood with 1500+
1990-2019: 79 seasons of 1000+ BF, only seasons since 1990 below:
5 - Livan Hernandez, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux
4 - Curt Schilling, Kevin Brown
3 - John Smoltz, Jaime Navarro, Jack McDowell, Roger Clemens, Jack Morris
2 - Darryl Kile, Pat Hentgen, Tim Belcher, Tom Glavine, Chuck Finley, Alex Fernandez, David Cone, Dave Stewart
Debut since 1925:
17 - Warren Spahn
13 - Steve Carlton
12 - Bert Blyleven, Phil Niekro, Gaylord Perry, Bobo Newsom
11 - Tom Seaver, Robin Roberts, Early Wynn, Lefty Grove
10 - Jack Morris, Fergie Jenkins, Bob Gibson, Jim Bunning
I think that's right. He had said there'd be another "tie" like Bagwell/Thomas, so that made for 32 remaining players. I thought those would have been: Babe Ruth, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Barry Bonds, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron, Roger Clemens, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Ted Williams, Alex Rodriguez, Lou Gehrig, Rickey Henderson, Ton Seaver, Mickey Mantle, Frank Robinson, Greg Maddux, Mike Schmidt, Lefty Grove, Randy Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Joe Morgan, Jimmy Foxx, Johnny Bench, Joe DiMaggio, Josh Gibson, Oscar Charleston, Satchel Paige, and John Henry Lloyd. Or maybe Martin Dihigo instead of Lloyd: it was hard to imagine Posnanski out of the top 100, and I was wondering if, as with Trammell, he just forgot about one of them.
360. DL from MN Posted: January 07, 2020 at 09:52 AM (#5913474)
I'm pretty sure Cool Papa Bell is NOT one of the 100 best baseball players.
361. PreservedFish Posted: January 07, 2020 at 10:05 AM (#5913477)
I'd appreciate it if someone with a subscription would share some of Poz's more delightful stories and turns of phrase.
From today's on Carlton Fisk:
For the game, Carl Fisk had 40 points and 36 rebounds.
And as Carl came off the court, he saw his father and hero, Cecil, the toughest and best man he would ever know. And for the rest of his life, Carl Fisk remembered word for word what his father said to him at that moment.
"How," Cecil said, "could you miss four free throws?"
The second father-and-son story is shorter and to the point. One year, after Carlton became a big star for the Boston Red Sox, his father came to see him play. Cecil was walking through the clubhouse when a coach stopped him.
"So, Mr., Fisk," the coach said, "you're Carlton's dad, huh?"
Cecil looked the coach dead in the eye.
"No," he said. "Carlton is my son."
Which mostly just makes me glad that my dad wasn't a colossal #####.
On Ferguson Jenkins:
He did not throw Bert Blyleven's curveball, did not intimidate hitters with a death-defying slider like Bob Gibson or Steve Carlton, did not pitch in the World Series year after year after year like Catfish Hunter. In fact, his teams never won at all, which certainly didn't help his Q rating. Jenkins did not spit on the ball like Gaylord Perry, cut it like Don Sutton, flutter it like Phil Niekro. He did not gyrate on the mound like Luis Tiant or lift his leg high like Juan Marichal.
What Jenkins did was very simple: He threw the ball down and away. That was it. That was the whole thing. He pitched and lived with a singular focus that was in and of itself a superpower. If he struck out a hitter, his next pitch was down and away. Allowed a home run? Down and away. Men on base? Down and away. No-hitter going? Down and away. He never wavered and never backed down and never saw anything but that one portion of the plate. Ferguson Jenkins hit more corners than sunlight.
I will say, though, that if you have the disposable cash, this series alone is worth paying the subscription cost for the year. With actual editors and things, I feel pretty confident it's actually going to get finished, and it really has been wonderful to read a new story each day.
But you'd probably be better at whatever activity he forced you to do.
Thanks, Baldrick. I find this much more worth a click than further speculation on who #82 might be.
366. Ithaca2323 Posted: January 07, 2020 at 11:07 AM (#5913500)
With actual editors and things, I feel pretty confident it's actually going to get finished
I'm going to wait until it actually is finished, and the subscribe. He's already bailed on paying subscribers once on this project (albeit yes, on his own).
367. JAHV Posted: January 07, 2020 at 11:44 AM (#5913533)
He gave all paying subscribers an annual subscription to The Athletic, which costs more than the subscription to his personal blog did, and comes with a hundred times the content.
Q, 367: I paid one month of JoeP blog. Should I have receievd an Atlantic subscription, or did I need to make an annual payment?
Re: timelining and the list in post 358 from bbmck, I would be disappointed if 5 of the top pitchers pre-1940 (Grove, Alexander, Johnson, Mathewson, Young) are ranked in the top 40, when Nichols is 82. It doesn't add up, unless you decide conditions changed more drastically from 1895 to 1910 than any other time, and even then, that drops Cy Young pretty far. If we timeline legitimately for all of the reasons we know of, I don't even see how Matty gets ranked much above Nichols, if he is above him at all. Maybe Joe's list will have zero players who were in their primes pre-1895 in his top 80? If so, consistency will dictate Cobb and Wagner get bumped from the top 15.
If so, consistency will dictate Cobb and Wagner get bumped from the top 15.
This was the interesting question for me the first time around. Collins was picked at No. 40 - how high could his contemporaries be?
Number 79 is Jeter:
And this goes on and on, every day, every week, every month, every summer. You can't ever win a baseball career. There is always another game, another season, another change-up that will fool you into swinging early. You can't ever claim victory because tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.
Of the 2,747 regular-season games he played, he got at least one hit in 2,114 of them. He has had multiple hits in more than 1,000 of them. He was always there, always at the top of the lineup, always unmistakeable at shortstop, always calmly saying the cliches that filled newspaper stories but didn't rock boats. Was Derek Jeter the best player of his era? No. Was he the most persistent, the most enduring, the easiest to like, the easiest to dislike, the easiest to hype, the easiest to be cynical about? I wouldn't even know who is second on the list.
Was he the most persistent, the most enduring, the easiest to like, the easiest to dislike, the easiest to hype, the easiest to be cynical about? I wouldn't even know who is second on the list.
I was going to suggest Ichiro until he got to the negative criteria.
Pete Rose gets snubbed again, persistent, enduring, likable, unlikable and generates hype and cynicism.
60'6" could be how Poz timelined the pitchers, Cy Young remains the all-time Win Leader, 2nd in pitching WAR, tied for 3rd in Losses with Phil Niekro. Kid Nichols drops to 85 pitching WAR, right close to 82.2 for Jenkins and Niekro's 96.9 is presumably downgraded because his best ERA+ seasons are: 179, 159, 142, 142 and 125. Anson with 36.4 WAR once overhand pitching is allowed and presumably eliminated even with that earlier starting point for "real" baseball.
373. alilisd Posted: January 09, 2020 at 10:43 AM (#5914113)
Pete Rose is likeable?
374. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: January 09, 2020 at 11:19 AM (#5914128)
373 raises a good question. I have a lot of relatives in Cincinnati and Rose is a guy who if you meet quickly like hey it's Pete Rose he will shake your hand, do the selfie and all good. But if you actually get to spend time with him it's not great. Like if you are out a bar pretty soon you are paying the bill for Pete and anyone with Pete. And anyone Pete invited to the group. So that kind of sucks. And he complains a lot. Complains how he got ###### by baseball. Complains about his money problems which I guess will never go away? And the baseball stories always feature Pete Rose being awesome and Johnny Bench being a dick. I don't know much about Bench but I guess Rose and Bench are not pals??
All this is second hand but my one aunt has lived in Cincy forever FWIW.
375. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 09, 2020 at 11:41 AM (#5914136)
Cheers to Cecil. This is how you ensure that your kid grows up to be an incredibly successful adult who will one day be found passed out in his pickup truck in a cornfield with a bottle of vodka.
376. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: January 09, 2020 at 12:08 PM (#5914151)
Clayton Kershaw article (#78) has been posted.
377. JAHV Posted: January 09, 2020 at 12:17 PM (#5914157)
That's a good question that I'm sorry I don't know the answer to. I think I made the annual payment, so I'm not much help. He had a lot of information about it when he was making the switch.
I'm sorry, where is this coming from? I expect Pos will rank Rose later since he put him at 41 last time. Did he tweet or say something I missed?
379. Ithaca2323 Posted: January 09, 2020 at 02:27 PM (#5914253)
Yes, but I wasn't a paying subscriber to his blog, because I didn't trust that he'd actually finish the project on it, in any kind of a timely fashion, if at all (because he didn't the first time he tried), so I didn't get that. As I said, when (if?) he finishes this one, I'll likely subscribe and read it all. As others have said, presumably, since The Athletic has editors and such, he'll get it done.
But he wrote this just two days ago on his site: So now is the time in the countdown where I am writing and writing and writing and thinking — "Oh no, how in the world am I going to finish this?" I don't know. But I will finish it. Just don't be surprised if by the time I get to the greatest player ever, the entire essay goes like so: "He was good."
Like, I get it, it's an incredibly ambitious project the way he does it. But to me, there's a better than non-zero chance he's going to get to like the Top 25, and we're going to get some "I had intended to finish this list in time for Opening Day, but then [insert whatever thing] happened, so the new plan is to have it by [some future date]" post from him.
If not, awesome. But seeing a multi-graph post describing the difficulties in finishing a project he's failed to finish twice already doesn't exactly fill me with confidence
Fair enough. I'm certainly not going to defend his ability to finish a project. I actually lost interest in his last iteration because he took so long with the one before and eventually ran out of steam.
These have been wonderful so far, and it's giving me something to read along with my son, who is a huge baseball fan, but who (at age 9) hasn't really taken very much to reading. These are a good length, they're well-written but not too flowery, and he can learn about the history of baseball. Even if he doesn't meet his deadline, it's a great series, and The Athletic subscription is well worth it. It was worth it before Posnanski joined.
381. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: January 09, 2020 at 09:16 PM (#5914376)
Is he actually doing actual timelining? I mean, the last list wasn't, (IIRC) ranked by, well, anything. It was Joe Poz's list of guys he wanted to tell stories about, not a list of the top-100 players in whatever metric he thinks is a good proxy for "greatness". Which is how you end up with Trammell and Lou just coincidentally being tied. So there's probably no answer to the question of how strongly he's timelining - if this list is anything like the last one (and feel free to correct me if it's not!) there's nothing quantitative about it. If Anson doesn't make the list, the reason is probably just "Poz doesn't want to talk about guys who were playing a game that was only sort of like baseball".
Ultimately, if I subscribe to The Athletic, it'll probably be for everything else. I don't really like a lot of the other stuff Posnanski writes, so I'm really only interested in the 100. I'm surprised he hasn't decided to make it into a book. I would certainly buy that.
383. reech Posted: January 10, 2020 at 12:18 PM (#5914529)
With Law, Pos and Stark all on The Athletic- I finally signed up-
$36 is a decent investment- most of us spend more than that on a nite out
#381. I think somewhere at the start of this there was a generated list:
So Tom and I (mostly Tom) came up with the Baseball 100 system, and it spit out a fascinating list of 100 players (well, the list actually goes to 500, but you get the point).
And then there was subjective shuffling within that.
385. Rally Posted: January 10, 2020 at 12:55 PM (#5914552)
Miguel Cabrera #77
Joe argues his 2012 season was the most impressive triple crown ever. Basing this on competition, being in a 14 team league, etc.
I think having more competitors makes a triple crown more improbable, but the key to Miguel's winning it wasn't him doing anything more impressive than others. He was just lucky that nobody else bettered any of his .330-44-139 numbers. Miggy had a better triple crown season one year later, with the same homers, 2 fewer RBI but raising his batting average by 18 points. But no triple crown that year.
Even without looking at WAR or OPS+ and focusing on the triple crown stats, the performance of Yaz in 1967 seems much more impressive. He hit 44 homers just like Miggy, but did it in a league where teams averaged only 120, 2/3 of the average in 2012. Yaz beat the league BA by 90 points, Miggy by 75. Even RBI, where Miggy beat Yaz 139-121, swing to Yaz's favor once adjusted by the league average runs per game.
Most improbable triple crown, sure, but not the most impressive.
80. Fisk
78. Kershaw
76. McCovey
75. Verlander
26 picks so far. I saw (back to mid-sixties) 21 live or live on TV (Oh). The other 5 are Campanella, Rogan, Gehringer, Bell, and Nichols.
388. Mefisto Posted: January 12, 2020 at 10:21 PM (#5915041)
I'm as big a Giants fan as there is, but I'd take Kershaw over McCovey any day.
Had the same reaction. In general, the rankings have felt fine. He's not really going into why and how they ended up exactly where they did, but I can usually buy it. But McCovey felt too high and Kershaw too low. Putting them right next to each other made it even more noticeable.
390. SoSH U at work Posted: January 13, 2020 at 12:21 AM (#5915054)
He's saying that Rose is getting snubbed from leading all of those categories Poz listed for Jetes. However, the flaw in that was that there's no way that Rose and Jeter are from the same era.
Ah, yes. I see. Hopefully the comparison stops there and none of Jeter's gift baskets found their way to the underage crowd.
No. 74 is Frank Thomas.
Calls Thomas a right handed Ted Williams. At least for the first part of his career, this is mostly true. Ted's rate stats don't change that much if you look at his stats before age 30 or after. With Frank there's a huge dropoff. The power is still there, as are the walks, but he mostly stopped hitting for high averages.
Ted Williams hit with the platoon advantage about 78 percent of the time, Thomas only 24 percent. Thomas hit 330/452/600 before age 30. If I take Ted's splits and make him a righty, facing LHP 24% like Thomas did and his R/L splits substituted for each other, I get 322/448/537.
I enjoyed the discussion in the Thomas essay about how everyone always misunderstood him because he was just so huge. Posnanski doesn't say it, but the subtext is also obviously that he was a big black guy, so people just assumed he was destined to be a football player, or that he was a hulking slugger. When, in fact, he was really just a hitting genius who happened to have some nice power, too.
I think they'd make similar assumptions about a 6'5, 275 pound white guy.
Lot of truth in it though. If Frank wasn't big enough to be a slugger he would have been Boggs or Gwynn. Well, if being smaller led to him being more agile on defense.
Frank Thomas's hugeness cannot be understated. Seeing him in the booth next to Papi and ARod. They are big guys, hit more than 1200 homers between them. Next to Thomas they look like utility infielders.
#74, Brooks Robinson
74. Thomas
73. B. Robinson
72. Roberts
Frank Thomas's hugeness cannot be understated.
Don't you mean overstated? Because it's really understated often.
Don't you mean overstated?
Yeah, that fits better. He's like Boban on the basketball court. You expect most of these guys to be huge but some are just on another level.
See Frank Howard.
Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt!


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A Case for Pencils' Jane Mattimoe meets Ralph Steadman
July 13, 2017 in General
Ralph, Jane and a bird's skull talk cartoons via Skype
In the first of what we hope will be a regular feature, Jane Mattimoe packs her Case for Pencils and crosses The Big Pond to interview British cartoonists, starting with Ralph Steadman:
I have been interviewing New Yorker cartoonists about their art supplies and drawing process on my blog, A Case for Pencils, since 2014. I had started going into The New Yorker close to two years prior, almost every week, and had gotten to meet a lot of my cartooning heroes. Not having had much of an art background (I studied anthropology at university), I began asking for advice about cartooning. To my delight, legends such as Sam Gross, Sid Harris, Mort Gerberg, and George Booth were kind and gracious enough to put up with my pestering… I realized that there were probably many aspiring cartoonists who would be interested in hearing and learning from their artist heroes as well, and began giving cartoonists surveys to fill out, to be collected on a website. And that's how A Case for Pencils was born.
The great man's studio
By now you may have guessed that I am an American, a transgression which I hope you can forgive me for if I tell you that I met Pro Cartoonists' Organisation committee member, The Surreal McCoy, years ago at the offices of The New Yorker, and have been delighted to get to know more PCO members, such as Jonesy and Glenn Marshall online. Surreal McCoy reached out to me to invite me to interview PCO members about their art supplies and drawing process similarly to the way that I do on Case, and here is the tremendously buried lede— I said yes! So starting with Ralph Steadman, there will be monthly (?) interviews where we will talk pencils and pens!
© Ralph Steadman
I am not a professional journalist. Most interviews on Case are conducted via email correspondence, and in fact, I have only done one telephone interview. So when Ralph suggested we speak via skype, I was a bit nervous. He also mentioned that it would be his third interview in so many days, and from the sounds of the other publications he was speaking with, I had some tough acts to follow! Fortunately, immediately upon starting the interview, I learned that Ralph is one of the warmest and kindest people you could ever meet! We ended up talking for close to two hours, and he made me laugh so often, that the muscles in my face were sore the day after!
A Case for Pencils' Jane Mattimoe
Talking to Ralph was a dream come true (though my webcam insisted on presenting me to him as a technicolor nightmare of flashing rainbow hues!) and I am grateful to PCO for the opportunity. They say to never meet your heroes, but that maxim doesn't hold true at all with Ralph. It was fun to hear his associative mind in action– he'd talk about something "swimming in ink," and then he'd connect swimming to his morning exercise regimen (he recommends the breastroke as the best form of swimming) that he does to keep his lungs in full working order, which led to him remembering a television program he watched the previous morning, where many people who had experienced being brought back to life's last thought before having been resuscitated was "I can't breathe." Initially, some of his answers might seem like they don't directly answer my questions, but what he actually is doing is leaping forward via associations, a thinking talent which contributes to his being one of the most creative and successful visual artists. Such as he avoids rough drafts in his art, he often goes straight to his final point (or association).
Besides just my bonkers webcam, we experienced many technical difficulties throughout the interview (though, Ralph, I know that one of the times that Skype "froze," you were just sitting very still!). Fortunately, knowing in advance that my various electronic gadgets are what is known in the professional cartooning community as "very bad," I prepared for the worst, and set up three separate methods to record the interview. That may seem excessive, but considering that two out of the three devices utterly quit, and erased their audio recording midway through the interview, it turned out to be the perfect amount!
Upon hearing that I had so many devices working to record us, Ralph exclaimed, "Oh it will be a collage!" an idea that prompted me to include snippets of our emails, a clip of audio, and screenshots of our skype session in the final interview. Ralph was more than game to build up the piece, and and very kindly sent me loads of his work to pepper throughout the paragraphs. Our resulting interview, which you can read on A Case for Pencils, is a kaleidoscope view of the time we talked.
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4 responses to A Case for Pencils' Jane Mattimoe meets Ralph Steadman
Rupert Besley said on July 13, 2017
Great stuff – a tremendous read (esp with the link to the full interview). I look forward to more (though that's some act for anyone to follow). Thanks all round.
Guy said on July 13, 2017
Excellent interview. (I shall try that type of paper immediately.) Well done.
bill stott said on July 15, 2017
Fascinating ! And encouraging too – Ralph's studio is nearly as untidy as mine.
Jonathan Wilks said on September 5, 2021
Where do I find the link to the full interview please?
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Deals activity slows down
'Sluggish business to continue through 2009'
Deals activity in Scotland plunged by more than half during the third quarter of the year as the ripples of the credit crunch began to fully affect the country's corporate landscape.
Research from Scottish Business Insider magazine shows the number of deals between July and September fell from 179 in 2007 to just 80 this year. The value of transactions also suffered a huge slump down to £4.31billion from £13.3bn.
Barry Fraser, mergers and acquisitions director at Ernst and Young, expects muted activity throughout 2009 as well.
He said: "The full impact on transactions wasn't felt until late spring as activity was buoyed before this due to arush of deals completed in advance of the April tax change.
"The market has become more challenging as the year has progressed with liquidity drying up and restricting deal activity.
"The market is still suffering symptoms of low confidence and lack of liquidity and deals are tougher to finance and taking longer to close."
Jack Ogston, head of acquisition finance and business development at Clydesdale Bank, said: "It's a bit of an exaggeration to say it's a twospeed economy in Scotland but there is a fundamental difference in that the oil sector is very strong.
"During the period in question oil prices still remained high. There was alot of activity and a lot of oil services businesses doing deals. That remains avery buoyant economy."
Donnie Munro, senior partner in corporate and commercial practice at Harper Macleod, explained why the value of deals is also smaller than in previous years.
He said: "A lot of the cash-out and MBO deals were mainly bank debt funded until the end of the tax year.
"In terms of business cycles it takes some time for people to move away from the concept that deals are funded by bank debt to a historical way of funding where there is equity and a lesser amount of bank debt."
Craig Anderson, head of transaction services at KPMG, said: "The deal-making community in Scotland has been having a tough time of late.
The impact the credit crunch has had on the economy, and in particular the banking industry, has had a dramatic effect on the appetite for deals."
The most significant deal in the quarter was the Clyde Blowers £610million acquisition of four American businesses.
The huge deal included taking over the entire fluid and power division of US Fortune 500 company Textron.
Bank of Scotland, HSBC, Barclays and Royal Bank of Scotland backed the takeover with equity also provided by Clyde Blowers Capital Fund. For full coverage of the third quarter deals see this month's Insider magazine.


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