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DeltaOverall score based on 29326 reviews
8.1Boarding
7.8Comfort
8.5Crew
7.8Entertainment
Pros: "Very friendly thank you!"
Cons: "The wifi login experience could be improved. I purchased wifi as a guest when I had an account and had to spend extra time chatting with an agent to get it resolved. They were very helpful but having the option to login to my account at the start would be ideal!"
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Pros: "Good entertainment options"
Cons: "Overall okay crew, but some very rude members"
Cons: "They sent my luggage to a completely different state! Now I have to wait till it gets to LGA and then they'll send it to me."
Pros: "Yes, the crew was helpful and patient. The food and drinks were good."
Cons: "Clarity in the PA system could be better. Too much background noise."
Pros: "The plane and entertainment system was good. The cabin crew was a little slow. But all in all it was a good flight."
Pros: "Nothing exceptional stands out"
Cons: "Flight was not on time"
Pros: "Choice of Entertainment was excellent"
Cons: "Bigger snacks - 2 small cookies or small pack of almonds was indigenous 2 hr flight"
Pros: "Everything was amazing"
Pros: "Delta does an overall nice job."
Cons: "Food is OK. Service is friendly though. Comfort + was nice. Bathrooms were not great, smelled, could use a refresh."
Pros: "Great crew. Seat was not too bad."
Pros: "Empty seats direct into Indy."
Cons: "Rough landing."
Pros: "Flight was on time. Entertainment worked."
Cons: "One of the stewardesses was a miserable crank."
Cons: "Food was ok...cramped space"
Pros: "Entertainment choices were plentiful."
Cons: "The flight attendants were borderline rude. No eye contact, no smile, not helpful when asking a question (overhead compartments were full in my section; I asked what I should do, response: " I don't know either" and walked off. I went to find a spot further up the aisle..."
Pros: "The flight crew did an excellent job communicating the weather expectations for the flight. I appreciate that information although the actual flight turned out to be very smooth."
Cons: "Seat assignment at gate and it changed 3 times to Accommodate others."
Pros: "Wi-Fi and movies to pick from,super!! Nice music while loading and unloading. Calm feeling with everyone,brilliant idea. Keep it up!"
Cons: "Best flight, security our always the downer in traveling."
Pros: "Seat comfortable"
Cons: "NA"
Pros: "The Venice airport is beautiful so the trip got off to a great start. The seats were comfortable on this long overseas flight to Atlanta. The meals, beverages and snacks were frequent and good."
Cons: "In Atlanta the terminal was switched twice."
Pros: "I was surprised by the amount of snacks and drinks on such a short flight."
Pros: "Boarded fast"
Cons: "Woman next to me with crying baby didn't care that her baby's head and arms where pretty much in my seat the whole flight. And the girl in front of me was wildly dancing the whole flight in her seat with headphones on and she get pushing back in her seat hitting my knees And every announcement the flight attendant made during the flight sounded like he was stoned and obviously didn't care what he was saying"
Cons: "Delayed because waited on a stewardess to show up. Wasn't able to book my seats when we checked in. The last seats on the plane are horrible. Still waiting on the plane to unload. Definitely will rethink ever flying this airline again."
Pros: "Good films"
Cons: "Seats cramped, legroom bad"
Pros: "Good snack selection, plane departed on time, no issues."
Pros: "What I liked was getting to my house."
Cons: "The air-conditioning was extremely cold; on the positive side, I was given a blanket. The plane did not have any kind of tv screen in which to watch films or programs. Space was unbelievably tight between seats and rows; I cannot imagine a horizontally or vertically big person having any level of comfort. In general, the service was quite poor, making me wonder how does Delta treat the flight attendants, for they seemed tired and careless. The above did not happen in any of my other flights: Atlanta-Guadalajara, Guadalajara-CDMX, CDMX-Atlanta."
Cons: "price could be cheaper"
Pros: "the trip going to cancun was an absolute nitemare.... the phone situation was less than acceptable... call back times horrific incorrect postings of new schedules.... late postings of new schedules...."
Cons: "the trip going to cancun was an absolute nitemare.... the phone situation was less than acceptable... call back times horrific incorrect postings of new schedules.... late postings of new schedules...."
Pros: "Great selection of movies"
Pros: "Crowded boarding area, but no standing around for long. Quick boarding. Entertainment not available so can't rate that. Good crew"
Pros: "After almost every airline cancelled. Delta still took me to where I needed to go with not one single problem. That pilot was amazing. I forget his name. But the plane didn't slide or anything during take off. Amazing."
Cons: "What was there not to like. We were a little bit late but I wasn't in a rush. I planned well ahead. Delta moved my flight from 10 a.m. to 6 a.m. and that was perfectly fine with me."
Cons: "Check in lines were crazy long"
Pros: "On time with no drama"
Pros: "Great flight attendant great people"
Cons: "Multiple delays in Atlanta"
Pros: "The plane was clean and well staffed. The crew was nice and helpful if I needed anything. The snacks and drinks are decent and what you would expect: small bags of pretzels or cookies and your choice of Coke product or coffee. Using the mobile Delta app made boarding and finding my gate a breeze."
Cons: "The seats were hard, and it was hard to fall asleep."
Cons: "Seats not very comfortable-very close quartered"
Pros: "Left on time, no hassles at boarding. We were in premium economy and seating was comfortable for both of us, not-too-tall people. FA were quite friendly."
Cons: "One bathroom wouldn't flush, which was a problem with limited facilities and a full flight."
Pros: "friendly staff check in was fast food was good"
Cons: "as always not enough room in the seats"
Pros: "Over cramped No Space for carry on slow service"
Cons: "Over cramped No Space for carry on slow service"
Cons: "Hard to get comfortable even in easy comfort but easy comfort is better than typica arats."
Pros: "Food selection and quality were fine. I also enjoyed the entertainment options. Seat area was comfortable and spacious."
Cons: "The flight attendants were uniformly rude and nasty to passengers from start to finish. As I boarded, I asked for a piece of art to be stored in the wardrobe compartment. This was treated as an inconvenience. During and after boarding, flight attendants addressed passengers rudely when encouraging them to take their seats in a timely fashion. Later, when my seat mate politely asked a FA to repeat the food options, she asked, "Excuse me?" several times and seemed very irritated to have to repeat the choices for him. Also, near the end of the flight, a pillow was on the ground and a FA asked those seated in my row to pick it up. We responded that it wasn't ours and she said something to the effect of, "Oh yeah? So how did it get there?" (Maybe because someone else dropped it and we didn't notice?) The FAs seemed irritated to serve passengers at all. Each time they passed through for beverage or meal service, I felt like I was imposing on them. I have never witnessed anything quite like it. Makes me wonder why they were all so upset and and felt it appropriate to speak and act disrespectfully toward customers. (Delta, do you have any insights?) I hope they all got a good night's rest after that haul."
Pros: "Left on time, plane was clean and arrived early"
Pros: "Who could ask for more?"
Cons: "N/A"
Pros: "the crew was nice"
Cons: "I would never fly Delta again! What you have done to the leg room, seating reminds of living in a third world country!"
Pros: "Loved the new aircrafts, the flight attendants were friendly and attentive. We landed 40 mins earlier than expected, the captain really sped the whole way and I didn't feel a thing!! The landing didn't even feel as though we were speeding...one of the best flights I've ever had (Jessica England) thank you!"
Cons: "Food options, early morning flights I get you're not going to have real food, but can there be an option to purchase a bagel with cream cheese or croissant, something other than a snack box. I understand the flight is under 3 hours so certain foods aren't available but Delta you upgraded everything else. I enjoy the Tapas box for those that are vegan, kosher, gluten free, etc....PS-the bathrooms are smaller"
Cons: "Weather delay"
Cons: "I had a problem getting a boarding pass that was a carryforward from a problem that I had had on the flights from the USA to Frankfort 2 weeks earlier. On those flights, I was denied boarding on the flight from Amsterdam to Frankfort because of miscommunication between Delta and KLM. Apparently, the staff who dealt with that problem did not note that the issue had occurred, so it looked like there were "out-of-sequence" segments on my initial flight and I was not allowed to check in electronically. It took several calls to KLM and Delta in Frankfurt to try to resolve the problem and finally it was determined that it could only be resolved at the airport. Other than a very nice KLM representative, the other people I talked to seemed unwilling to engage in helping me and sent me along to someone else. Although the problem was ultimately fixed, this was not a great customer service experience."
Pros: "I make this trip every month. And this crew is the best I had in a while."
Cons: "Nothing"
Cons: "On board entertainment (movies / games) was not working the whole flight."
Pros: "We landed 50 min early!"
Cons: "The aircraft could have been cleaned more thoroughly before boarding."
Pros: "Very nice airplane and pleasant crew"
Pros: "Crew is excellent, polite and personal!"
Cons: "Plane is super old and outdated. Comfort seat is not, comfortable, very tight. TV screen is not good quality, with the old controls on a handset. No touch, no 1/8 inch audio jack (it has the old 3 holes one). Wifi for streaming freezes every other second. Just make a face lift to the plane, everything else is good."
Pros: "Services is good ."
Cons: "Food can be better"
Pros: "A flight was delayed due to weather conditions and we had to sit in the plane for almost an hour, BUT information sharing from the Capitan was sufficient and on-time. Very good job from pilots. Leg room in economy - I was positively surprised, very decent leg room! Thank you for providing it."
Cons: "I flew economy and all was good and appropriate to the level."
Pros: "Very friendly and responsive crew. Announcements from the Capitan and chief of flight attendants are very informative and comforting. Seat positions: very good leg room (even in economy)!"
Cons: "Newer airplane, as 747s are kind of outdated now, especially for long distance flights. But overall had good experience with KLM"
Cons: "When its rain we shouldn't walk to the air plain"
Cons: "Everything was OK"
Cons: "I congratulate the KLM crew!"
Cons: "The KLM crew are always great serving and treating you. Well above many other airlines."
Pros: "Crew was great, very responsive and hospitable!"
Cons: "more lunch choices, especially choices without dairy products."
Cons: "Flight got delayed 30 minutes"
Pros: "Very friendly crew and on time with no problems."
Pros: "Crew was amazing. They adjusted the seating arrangements so there was an empty seat in every row to give passengers more space. Very thoughtful and much appreciated. They served delicious meals, snacks, and water. They provided headphones, blankets and pillows. They took very good care of us."
Cons: "Flight was delayed and overhead bin space was very small"
Cons: "They left my bag off the plane. Ridiculous."
Pros: "The crew"
Cons: "Seat comfort"
Pros: "The earphones for out two seats only worked intermittently, but the Purser, Lee-Ann handled it professionally and pleasantly. That was the only disappointment in an otherwise pleasant flight"
Cons: "The earphones could have worked!"
Pros: "Crew was amazing, seats were comfortable with enough leg space even without choosing extra space seats. It was my childhood dream come true to fly with KLM. It was really an exciting trip for me, just that it was short."
Cons: "Well, for me everything was on point. Those who have never travelled with KLM, I would encourage them to do so and I'm sure they will not regret."
Cons: "I called for a crew member 5 times and waited 25 minutes for anyone to help me with just some water. I had to get up and go to the very back of the plane to ask for some water. The plane was hot and no air to be found. This was all after we had to get back off the plane before takeoff. It was terrib"
Pros: "Everything was good except for the entertainment consul for one of our seats."
Cons: "One of our entertainment consuls had to be rebooted 4 times and still didn't work. We gave up asking."
Pros: "Quick flight"
Pros: "Good food, friendly service"
Cons: "More trash pickup; only one round of beverage service"
Pros: "Friendly and efficient crew. Flights were on time if not even early."
Pros: "Service was great as usual. Food was very good and entertainment options were great so you won't have to be bored throughout the trip."
Pros: "Very friendly onboard personnel - I really had kind of homy feeling."
Pros: "Flight crew very nice"
Cons: "Paid $70 for seat with more leg room and was the exit role to main entrance. No overhead space for carry on: broken food tray holder. People stepping on my feet. And gather in your space waiting for bathrooms. Window seat had no room for feet because of closed door"
Cons: "Our lougage did not arrive"
Cons: "Still waiting to board after missing this connection had to be booked on another airline"
Pros: "Easy flight; loved the crew and their friendly customer service. Great food, kept everyone hydrated and fed."
Cons: "The movie options, as well as music and TV options were limited. There were no electrical outlets."
Pros: "I am so grateful to have been provided delicious and filling vegan meals on this long flight. Thank you for offering a dietary option that is compassionate toward animals and contributes less to climate change! Now if only the planes were powered by clean, renewable energy... Hopefully that will become a reality someday very soon! Oh, and also the crew on this flight was exceptionally kind and helpful. Thank you so much!"
Cons: "I did not enjoy the turbulence, which I suppose is unavoidable. More importantly, I felt quite guilty about the greenhouse gas emissions of my flight. I have decided to cut down on my air travel as much as possible as a way of reducing my carbon footprint."
Pros: "Arrived early!"
Cons: "Boarding seemed disorganized."
Pros: "We were fed a nice pasta meal and offered drinks twice. They also gave a muffin for desert. The flight attendants were very nice and attentive with cheerful smiles. I wish every airline had service this good!"
Cons: "Customer service"
Cons: "infotainment was down. Lost my luggage the flight was delayed"
Pros: "Boarding was quick, Flight on time....just a regular service and plane"
Cons: "Terminal 3 Manchester is not worth staying longer then necessary, loud music, crowded....old"
Pros: "The food service was good and the flight attendants were friendly."
Cons: "The plane was very uncomfortable. The seats were small, you felt on top of the person next to you, and there was no leg room. I am a pretty small person- I can't image how uncomfortable all of the taller passengers must have been."
Pros: "Only thing we liked was the fact that we were able to get onto our flight at all..."
Cons: "Was not informed that checking in online is the only way to secure a seat. So, regardless of whether you book your tickets 3 months in advance or the day before, you're not actually guaranteed a seat unless you check in online. We weren't told this until we were at the airport and checked in there that we might not be able to get our pre-booked in advance flight because of over-booking from KLM. We then had to wait and see if there were seats available when boarding. Luckily, there were, but we were not sat together. Not the greatest start to our first holiday together as a couple. We were told that if there weren't seats available, they'd pay for us to get to another airport to fly out, which would have meant a huge delay on the only time off we'd get together this year and have to rearrange our pre-booked and pre-paid living arrangements for the week. All because there wasn't a lot of emphasis on the need to check in online before hand. You'd think if someone checked in at the airport, that would be more of a guarantee that they'd be flying with you that day, but apparently not. Definitely not impressed or happy with this part of the KLM experience. This is the only company that we've had this problem with, they should make it clearer that it is essential to check in online."
Pros: "Comfort economy well worth the extra."
Pros: "Great crew service. Among the best ever."
Cons: "Long stop over at Schiphol. Too Long!!!!"
Pros: "On time."
Cons: "No negative"
Cons: "Departure 40 mins late. I took this flight 2 weeks ago and it was also delayed."
Cons: "One of the senior stewardesses we're very rude. Whether it's her personal opinion or KLM's policy, it's unreasonable to think that a 3 years old child could or should hold her pipi over 20 minutes, while they slowly and inefficiently trying to give out food. Several parents were there with the request to let us through to the toilet with small children and she smiled in our face and said "no, we will finish first and than you can go". She might be not fit for the job anymore, but KLM can't afford this kind of treatment."
Pros: "The cabin crew were fantastic and funny"
Cons: "Tiny seats"
Cons: "Did not get the luggage from connecting flight from Amsterdan to Basel"
Pros: "Nothing"
Cons: "Airlines had no record of our pets flying with. Missed our flight even though we were there over 3 hours prior. Ruined the last day of vacation. Now we are waiting for the promised help in Amsterdam. No one is here. No one knows anything. Feel like crying"
Pros: "Having exit aisle made a huge difference in comfort Crew were EXCELLENT"
Cons: "Food was not very good Tasteless and rubbery"
Pros: "Good food, good entertainment system, comfortable seating."
Cons: "Only one toilet working in business class. A crew member told me that it was a decision to fly with only one toilet to ensure no delay. There was a disgusting stench of sewerage for the complete flight from Amsterdam to Johannesburg. This was in all likelihood due to the broken toilet on the left side."
Pros: "Flight was quick, professional, friendly."
Pros: "crew"
Cons: "food"
Everything was good.
Connecting flight 60 min late
I traveled Lufthansa many times in the past when they had Portland-Frankfurt direct flights. The service and food was superior on those flights compared to what I experienced on this recent flight. Food was terrible. Drink service came by once with no follow up. (would have like a second glass of wine). Entertainment selections were boring. (too much Tom Cruise!) Headphones did not work at all. Overall, a very disappointing experience. I question if I'd fly Lufthansa again.
Pros: "It was an uneventful flight. The entertainment system worked well and food was good."
Cons: "The lights kept coming on every few minutes making sleep nearly impossible."
Pros: "Drinks served on flight. Comfortable seats."
Cons: "Food."
Pros: "Full bottle of water and continuous refreshments in flight."
Cons: "Connections booked together need more time for larger airports. I had over an hour connection on paper and had to run through the entire airport to even catch my flight. My mother on a separate flight arrived ten minutes before her flight took off even though booking stated a full hour. Also the quality and cleanliness of the plane needs improvement. Lufthansa is normally amazing quality but both flights today were subpar. Bathroom smelled of urine, old and dirty seats with no support. Dirty hand rests and outdated screens which skipped with movies"
Pros: "Less hand bags, a lot of people trying to put their hand luggage ans there was no space"
Cons: "Controll the quantity of packages per person"
Pros: "Staff was extremely nice and helpful"
Cons: "Seats recline too much making leg room more nonexistent than ever"
Cons: "Luggage was not received. Now being told it will take up to 5 days! Unacceptable performance"
Pros: "Seat was not super comfortable."
Pros: "Very helpful and accommodating"
Cons: "I don't know why all airlines don't have a more orderly system for boarding by zones (like Delta). Lufthansa and Swiss both just have a mob of people blocking the boarding area and hindering people who shoud actually be boarding to get through."
Pros: "Everything, I love Lufthansa"
Cons: "I did not like the food"
Pros: "The food was good was good"
Cons: "The entertainment was poor the movies selection was poor"
Cons: "No entertainment"
Pros: "Also a lovely and comfortable flight"
Cons: "No complaints"
Pros: "The crew was very good and we were right on time."
Pros: "Attitude of staff"
Cons: "Food and delay"
Pros: "Short trip"
Pros: "See above"
Pros: "Professional staff, up to date aircraft, very clean, good meals, good selection of entertainment, very attentive to customers. Passed through many times with beverages. Lufthansa is always a pleasure."
Pros: "Always enjoy Lufthansa flights - Seemed a bit hectic this time"
Cons: "It took me 25 hours to get back home, multiple flights, lost luggage, and overall a disaster of a trip home. I was supposed to arrive in DFW at 2:15 p.m. and did not arrive until almost 2:00 a.m. My luggage came to a different terminal and did not arrive with me. In the end everything was okay but it was not a pleasant trip"
Pros: "They're very polite persons"
Cons: "The way they treat people"
Pros: "Service on board was good."
Cons: "The walk to the connecting flight was too long and took a lot of time."
Pros: "Friendly and efficient staff."
Cons: "Always the same mess in Frankfurt to get into terminal Z, surely waited 30 minutes and almost lost connection. Food quality mediocre at best. Lost luggage, no Lufthansa representative around at baggage claim."
Pros: "The crew were friendly"
Cons: "Nothing I didn't like"
Pros: "service crew"
Cons: "It would really be nice as a paying HON/SEN and business ticket passenger to get priority boarding. As nowadays seemingly everybody has priority boarding, this offer does not make sense anymore."
Pros: "Crew was excellent."
Cons: "Food needs to be improved. Salad was old, and hot tea was lukewarm . It wasn't a Swiss quality for sure!"
Cons: "Fight was cancelled, but we weren't notified until it was time to board (30-45 minutes before takeoff). We went to the help desk and were placed on a flight few hours later, but were never told the reason for the cancellation."
Pros: "Very courteous service, clearly a step above other airlines"
Cons: "Very long delays"
Cons: "The person at the Swiss/Lufthansa front desk, some Mohamed guy, was very rude when he did my check in"
Pros: "Faster, newer planes."
Cons: "Flights were late and boarding was caios, no one had any clue what to do. Blankets were filthy. Entertainment had limited choice. Considering I took six flights in this month, I will let it slide that they ran out of New movies. Worst part was food. Obviously, there is no quality consideration when they decide menu. Check Emirates or other similar fare bracket airlines to understand the gravity of Lufthansa food problem. If one reason I had to choose to drop Lufthansa from my future consideration then that would be worst food and drinks. I would strongly recommend that they should assign people who need additional time to board at the back of the plane. It will help them to go back of the plane faster and avoid gridlock in the middle. Another advantage is it will help other passengers leave plane faster at the end of the ride. Boarding process will be come significantly faster by filling the plane from back to front by loading passanger with children and who needs time at the first loading area at the back of the plane. Thanks"
Cons: "Being asked, when other passengers were around me, how much money I cary with me. This is a dangerous thing. I don't know whom I travel with, and I felt at risk knowing that other people know how much cash I have with me. Plus, the money were counted on the passageway to the plane, with people walking by. I strongly believe that you should change the method you ask and check passengers for cash. I heard other details that I shouldn't hear from another women who was also checked. What I ask is PRIVACY."
Pros: "The food was okay and the crew did their best to make us comfortable once we were on board. We flew business class, so that was probably a factor."
Cons: "Everything else was horrible. When we got to the airport, they didn't even know we were coming. They sent us to two other airlines, assuming we were flying with a partner airline, then tried to shift the blame onto Kayak. When -- and ONLY when -- we pointed out that we'd actually booked directly through Condor and Kayak had only served as the intermediary, they gave us a direct line to call. Then their agent said "You can't always trust the people at the desk, you know." Oh, really? If I can't trust your own agents, who can I trust, exactly? It turned out that we had an initial flight to Minneapolis, which was NOWHERE on the itinerary, on Sun Country. The Sun Country folks, thankfully, were enormously helpful and we made our flight with 2 minutes to spare. But it doesn't end there. We'd paid for business class all the way, but only got it on the interseas portions of our flights. And they lost our luggage on the way home, to boot. Take home lesson? NEVER FLY WITH CONDOR. I'll walk to Europe before ever booking with them again. And I'll make sure that all my friends and colleagues, all of whom travel extensively, know of our experience."
Pros: "Having own TV moniter and many options for entertainment. The meals were good and staff friendly."
Cons: "Every seat was taken and the flight was cramped. But the plane was configured so you could get up and walk around every few hours."
Pros: "I have a servere hearing problem and was concerned (since we were late leaving Zurich for my changeover in Frankfurt), that I would be late because I can't hear any loudspeaker systems (either on planes or in airports). I felt that I could get easily lost between flights and not have time to get to the Frankfurt/Denver flight. I told this to the person at the gate in Zurich, and he immediately arranged for someone to meet me in Frankfurt and take me there. I was met by Maika in Frankfurt and she was just excellent--personable and efficient and really helpful. I'm sorry I couldn't remember the name of the person at the gate in Zurich. He was also great. I wouldn't have done this if I had had more time, but this really made my day (and my flight!) ! Thank you!"
Cons: "Boarding in Zurich is tough for infrequent travelers because all the desks say SWISS. And it took me a long time to realize that SWISS handled many airlines. Perhaps the signs could be bigger."
Pros: "Short flight Ease of checking in Meal provided"
Cons: "Time of flight changed by two hours earlier w/o being notified No entertainment Flight delayed due to passenger"
Cons: "I would have liked more snacks passed in between meals. Our flight was delayed byv3 hours and we were starving by the latter end of the flight."
Pros: "Food and seating space much better than Delta."
Cons: "My luggage was left in Frankfurt at connecting flight from Frankfurt to Atlanta"
Pros: "I love flying with lufthansa. Staff is friendly and chatty. Personal service is excellent. Food could be better compared to other airlines, but is not so important to me when it comes to flying."
Pros: "Larger than expected in room. Lots of movie options. Food was pretty good"
Cons: "Layover was short so they said to tell the crew and they would help. They did not. Missed my connecting flight due to their delay leaving Frankfurt and no assistance given."
Pros: "Everything"
Pros: "Takeoff was on time and efficient."
Pros: "The flight was on time. The boarding went smoothly."
Cons: "Armrest was broken on 1st flight making it difficult to get the tray table out."
Pros: "i was able to to do check in on line, be updated on changing gates,"
Pros: "One crew member servicing first class was in a mood "not to be here" - it is sad because of first class experience is higher than usual! It was just bad!"
Cons: "I honestly don't have an answer for this, I guess these kind of crew should not on board especially in first class!"
Pros: "This is a great way to travel from Helsinki to Tampere and avoid the railway and train changing."
Cons: "The plane is not comfortable, but the flight is very short. It balances out."
Pros: "The blueberry juice was good!!"
Cons: "Sitting by the bathrooms. There weren't even pretzels."
Pros: "Beautiful new modern aircraft & plenty of spare seats on the flight. Paid for Economy comfort & it was worth it."
Cons: "Did not like that you had to pay for drinks & snacks. For someone of Finnair's standing, you would think they would include it."
Pros: "The staff were thoughtful and kind. They checked on us and offered snacks and water very regularly. My favorite, though, was that the captain took the time to alert us to the sights out the window. We had closed the shades at the request of the attendants and would have missed the beauty of Greenland had he not alerted us to peak out. I appreciate that!"
Cons: "Not enough leg room."
Pros: "Comfortable smooth flight, quiet in the large modern BA A380 aircraft"
Cons: "Usual boarding with people in rear having to get past people in lower row numbers having been boarded first."
Pros: "The crew did an excellent job definitely went beyond good service, I enjoyed the food and they came often offering drinks. It was probabky my first long flight I wasn't thirsty at all. Overall I was very happy with my trip hope thank you!"
Cons: "I got slightly cold at one point and wished the lights were I little lower but I understand why the weren't."
Pros: "Made up some of lost time from delayed departure"
Cons: "Seats cramped"
Pros: "The flight to and from Los Angeles was operated by British Airways and was on one of their Airbus fleet. Boarding was completed efficiently and with ease. I sat on the upper deck and was very comfortable in comparison to other major airlines previously used for this particular flight. The plane was very clean and the crew were outstanding. Nothing appeared to be too much trouble for crew, and they were ready with beverages, including tea and coffee, and snacks throughout the flight. In flight entertainment was good. All in all very pleasant flight to and from the U K."
Pros: "The dinner tray was actually one of the best I ever had in a plane (except maybe for the bread). Flight was comfortable overall, I was just a little too hot, with no individual air vent."
Cons: "A little too hot, and no WI-FI. Other than that, great flight."
Pros: "It was a British Airways flight, plane was large, and felt more roomy than what I'm used to. The service was impeccable."
Cons: "The movies did not play on my screen. I tried to use the screen on the seat next to me and the movies quit in the middle. It was very annoying."
Cons: "I booked this through Finnair and it was a British Airways code share .I was unable to get the record locator for BA and could not check in prior to getting to the airport ."
Pros: "Good service...."
Pros: "Staff as always is polite"
Cons: "The man sitting next to me required two seats. The arm rested had to be lifted to my seat to accommodate him. I complained but the flight was full and my seat could not be changed. I was told that British Air policy was not to require extraordinary over weight people to buy two seats. No, instead the person next to that overweight person has to suffer. A very stupid and unfair policy. As a result I will never book Finnair or British Air again if I can avoid it."
Pros: "Polite and friendly flight attendants, smooth boarding procedure"
Cons: "Trash everywhere on the plan by mid flight.... Broken tv screen"
Cons: "We were unable to find a row of seats to more comfortably facilitate traveling with a baby and a toddler as seats that should have had a cot or extra seating didn't have the cot and were sold out for an additional fee before we had the chance to. Discussing this with the staff at check0in and at the gate, made no difference as they had no knowledge of what was available on that particular flight. Every time I fly with American I'm reminded of why I don't like the airline and I will do my best to avoid them moving forward regardless of competitive ticket pricing."
Pros: "Crew were friendly, helpful and efficient Entertainment was very good, especially on outgoing flight"
Cons: "Broken a/c on one flight, sweating buckets No leg room at all on outgoing 747 Disgusting smelly BO passenger on return flight"
Pros: "The new 777 airplanes were exceptional as well as the splendid airline crew!"
Cons: "Crew members were almost non-existent. Saw them beginning and end of flight only and this was not even red eye flight. Food quality was very poor for premium seating. Many on board had to approach flight crew in back of cabin to get something to drink throughout he 10 hour flight."
Pros: "Everything good except getting bag after flight."
Cons: "Took over an hour at baggage claim."
Cons: "The crew moved me to another seat on the return flight which allowed me entertainment but I hadThe entertainment console at my seat location on both flights to and from London did not work. That's 10 hours! to move away from my companions."
Pros: "The more modern plane with USB ports that actually charge and the higher quality and bigger displays really help make the trip more enjoyable."
Cons: "Not as much to eat on this BA flight back to Philidelphia from Hethrow as there was on the American Airlines flight there."
Pros: "Wonderful service and care from crew."
Pros: "9 month old A380 with dedicated flight crew - everything on time - what more is there to ask for?"
Cons: "Airplane meals tend to be carb-heavy and the food service was no exception. Always a roll or bread but this is normal."
Pros: "Very relaxing, enjoyable flight. Entertainment was great with many different options to choose from (music, tv, movie, games). The plane was not full and I had the entire row to myself, making the flight that much more comfortable. Awesome crew that was attentive and friendly. Probably one of the best flights I've ever been on. Thanks!"
Pros: "Service was great"
Pros: "it was fine"
Pros: "That they actually gave a meal."
Cons: "Main course of chicken and rice was clearly on the small size for a 10+ hour flight. The chicken was in some vague sweet and sour sauce. It was a good thing that I had bought sandwiches before boarding. Return flight LHR to LAX was on BA and the main course of chicken and mashed potatoes was substantially larger and tastier."
Cons: "Boarding was chaotic. Pre boading not enforced, all passengers boarding at the same."
Pros: "Although I booked this as Finnair, it was actually a British Airways flight, as I knew it would be. And it was fine--I don't think Finnair gets much credit, but whatever. I'd actually have liked to travel with someone more exotic!"
Cons: "experience was awful. Helen Rowena Boysen"
Cons: "Was not able to check in online on either leg."
Pros: "Arrived on time. Smooth flight."
Cons: "Nothing really."
Pros: "I took the bus back and forth from SF to London. Overseas I am now in contemplation of only flying British Airways from now on. The ride is comfortable, enjoyable, entertaining, adequate space, excellent service, food and drinks are the best I have had, and exceptional services and attention. This goes for both flights. I have been recommending Britsh Airways over the last several weeks to pretty much everyone I know. My family and I will be looking to British Airways for overseas flights as a priority."
Cons: "Connecting flight thru Heathrow was too close for comfort. I just reached the gate at the end of boarding. If there had been a glitch at all I would have missed the flight."
Pros: "Food was better than flight to London. Boarding went well."
Cons: "Plane left almost an hour late with no explanation given. For huge plane, still cramped unless you pay loads for more room. Upgrade prices outlandish!!!"
Pros: "British Airways operated this flight and it was a great experience. The seats were cramped, but almost to be expected for an economy service overseas."
Pros: "The crew was friendlier than on the other airlines we took on our trip. The seats were cramped (coming from someone average height) and the middle and window seats have a combined under the seat compartment so you don't feel like you have personal space. I wish the breakfast was more substantial, but other than that it was a wonderful flight and I would definitely take it again!"
Cons: "This is 2016 and to have planes that don't have in seat screens for entertainment is ridiculous. This was over a 9 hour flight. Won't choose your airline again because of this."
Pros: "The flight itself was very good. The food is descent and there are good selection of movies."
Cons: "My bag was left in London during my connection and arrived in Denver the next day. From what I understand once my bag arrived it was handed off to a third party delivery company. I am not sure how to complain to this company, maybe British Airways has a way to do it since they hired them. My bag must have arrived around 3:30pm in Denver. I got a text at 5pm that my bag was being delivered, which is fine so far. I did not hear before 10pm from the delivery guy about an estimated delivery time of my luggage, at that point he said he would show up around midnight. He eventually arrived at 3am. I don't know how the delivery company plans their deliveries but this is rather unacceptable. Unfortunately, this is not the first time this happens to me. Do they really always expect people to stay up until 3am the day after an international flight to get their luggage that was mis-handled by the airline.... I'd rather just drive to the airport myself the next day to get my suitcase myself."
Cons: "The headphone socket didn't work, the screen was tiny, the food was bordering on the inedible, the seating was cramped and uncomfortable, the air was dirty and unhealthy."
Pros: "Short good flight, with no issues. Friendly crew that were very professional."
Cons: "No complaints."
Pros: "Window seat. Nobody sat next to me. Good food. Free entertainment and drinks. Large plane. Plug socket. Usb socket. Free headphones and toothbrush. Enough hand luggage space for everyone's bag."
Cons: "Good was good. However I have an allergy to soy and there were soybeans in the prawn salad with no ingredients list no notification of such. I ate some too and didn't have my epi pen with me. Very scary!"
Pros: "I liked the crew and the fact that the flight was on time in both directions. We actually landed a little earlier than scheduled. The food was decent enough for airplane food and there were some recently released movies to watch."
Cons: "The seats were a bit cramped, which I guess is to be expected on a plane."
Pros: "Flight was on time. Staff were very friendly. The whole process was easy."
Pros: "Loading was handled well as was most everything else. The entertainment options were good and the airline food was about the usual....Bad to just unappetizing. Overall, the flight crew were friendly and helpful."
Cons: "I am gettin pretty tired that the airlines I book with are FAILING to pass on my dietary need of Gluten-free meals to the airlines handling my return flights... This has happened THREE times now and is getting pretty damn old. I originally booked with Finnair. My outbound flight from RDU to LHR was with American Airlines. My return trip--open jaw--LHR to SEA was actually flown by British Airways. BA was NOT given my transferred flight details of dietary needs and seating preferences. Not as frustrating if this only happens once; three times is definitely a pattern and a problem!"
Pros: "Flight was not full Nice clean 777-300 Better food service than in the past ... more snack service With Global Entry, I was off the plane and in a car in less than 20 minutes"
Pros: "The flight was exactly on time,fantastic in flight service,and a fantastically smooth ride."
Pros: "Excellent flight."
Pros: "Nothing. Lost money on flight"
Cons: "Refunding our flight and not stealing our money during the pandemic"
Pros: "I almost missed my next flight from Dublin to Chicago. There was not enough time between flights with current security measures. Your site should not have suggested those two flights so close."
Cons: "Not much legroom"
Cons: "The airline charged for luggage at airport check in."
Pros: "The entertainment was great and the crew, for the most part, was pleasant."
Cons: "Leaving on time and the consideration of connection flights and how it inconveniences your customers when this happens."
Pros: "Got a free seat next to me."
Cons: "Plane delayed at one airport and again for 15 agonizing minutes at Dublin as an Aer Lingus ground crew forgot to turn on a parking indicator according to the pilot. Then nearly missed connecting flight made it by running. Nobody would allow someone to move faster through lines for a connecting fligh"
Cons: "I didn't like being taken for a bus ride and then standing outside in the open for 10 minutes before take off to Madrid and again today being brought to Terminal 1 to have to walk long distances to get to the passport control."
Pros: "I like there systems of getting people on and off -- it's efficient and easy. I like the price."
Cons: "We were jammed packed in; no water or beverages; and no entertainment ... an old aircraft."
Pros: "We've got a huge delay with the first flight, the crew AT THE TERMINAL was very good organized and guided us straight to the connection flight. The crew at the flight I didn't even noticed."
Cons: "The missing luggage, as described above, is very unpleasant and still need extra effort. There was no drinks, nor food, nor entertainment included. The seats were very uncomfortable."
Pros: "Everything went smoothly."
Cons: "Nothing."
Cons: "Having to leave the terminal and going through security again was insanely stressful and I barely made my flight."
Pros: "Crew was excellent and very nice"
Cons: "Left from Venice and stood in line to check in and check bags for an hour. unable to check in before arriving. Had to run through the airport to make our flight. Absurd that I couldn't get a cup of water without paying"
Pros: "Everything really"
Cons: "That aerlingus doesn't offer a refreshment and a snack. All other national airlines do so.."
Cons: "The flight was late. Crew was not helpful. Food was blah."
Pros: "US preclearance in Dublin No immigration wait in Boston"
Cons: "Coffee was terrible Sound in the headset was hard to hear. Seat had to be manually pulled to vertical My ear buds would not fit the 2-hole system on this plane"
Pros: "Cabin crew very professional."
Cons: "Stop making the seats smaller, narrower, and closer together, food was awful."
Pros: "They really did a great job, kept us informed about what was going on,staff was quick, organized and pleasant. I have to say, best food on a flight that I have had in a very LONG time,!"
Cons: "Dirty aircraft. Almost 1 hour delay."
Pros: "The charm and warmth of the Aer Lingus hostesses make them the best in the world !"
Cons: "Arriving at JFK and there was no gate for us . We drove around for 3 hours before we could disembark. Why is JFK such a mess ?"
Cons: "Space was so limited it was just ridiculous"
Pros: "Flight was on time."
Cons: "Hamburg airport security more intrusive and aggravating than most."
Cons: "Terrible"
Pros: "Boarding was quick."
Cons: "They lost my luggage on my connecting flight from Dublin to London. And I didn't receive it until I returned home a week later. No clothing for a week. I wasn't offered any reimbursement. The flight attendants were rude. And the seats were uncomfortable."
Pros: "Time of connection"
Cons: "Was a bit dirty between sits"
Pros: "The flight attendents were fabulous, very friendly and helpful. I sat in the first row and when I boarded the attendant helped me find a spot for my carry on luggage."
Cons: "I paid for priority boarding but never had the chance to board early."
Pros: "Friendly crew"
Cons: "Delayed by 30 minutes"
Cons: "Short flight so N/A on food and entertainment. Crew were much nicer and friendly than our first leg of the trip."
Cons: "I was not permitted to check in online through any website (BA, Are Lingus etc.) then I was not permitted to self-check in at a kiosk. By the time I was able to check in all that was left was a middle seat. I asked about upgrades and was told I would need to pay full price for one of those tickets. The seats are veryyy cramped, the entertainment system was outdated, the food was gross and wine was expensive."
Pros: "Food was definitely improved!"
Cons: "There was no food or entertainment provided"
Cons: "The seat cushion was worn out and lumpy"
Pros: "Great crew."
Cons: "No free alcochol. Had to spend a night in Dublin just to connect! Over two hours late. And Aer Lingus really stunk flying the night before from Milano to Dublin. One person at their many counters for two hundred passenegers. Last time for Aer Lingus. On the other hand British Airways flew us from SF to Milano. We thought we were returning by British Airways. Screw job!"
Pros: "They quickly booked us on another flight after we found out AT the airport."
Cons: "2 hour delay, but we made it!"
Pros: "clearing customs in Dublin rather than US was nice. Since we chose the flight based on price, It's reasonable to expect some corner cutting."
Cons: "Aer Lingus operated the flight. Haphazzard ticketing/check-in procedure would have been stressful if it wasn't clear that everyone else on the plane was there in line too. Both legs of our trip with Aer Lingus were on older planes, that had obviously flown a lot of miles. It was a short flight, so food wasnt a necessity, but no beverages were complimentary. Given airline security, water, at least, should be complimentary on any flight."
Pros: "Baggage claim assistant Peter in Dublin was very helpful"
Cons: "I asked the person checking and tagging the bags in Budapest to make sure they came off in Dublin for 24 ht overnight layover - I told him twice and he nodded agreement and then tagged them WRONG!!!!"
Pros: "Friendly efficient Staff. On time baggage both in Zurich and in Dublin almost literally as I got through passport controls. So I could not have asked for better."
Cons: "We were told we would revive a seat at the bulkhead with a bassinet. We did not."
Pros: "Very clean. Seats are comfortable and food is good."
Pros: "Ahead of time"
Pros: "I got home"
Cons: "Lingus lost my wife and my luggage along with 20-25 other passengers. It took two days to get out baggages back and cost me a bunch of money, time, headache & hassle."
Pros: "Seats were comfy, plane wasn't nice. Food was good"
Cons: "Boarding was not organized and confusing. Plane circled many times before landing causing delay"
Pros: "Coffee"
Cons: "Coffee was 3 euros?"
Pros: "Dublin is easier to transfer in than LHR"
Cons: "My luggage didn't arrive to Amsterdam. I wasn't offered any assistance and I had to wait a day to receive my luggage! My flight was an early flight so it,ales not sense why it wasn't brought to the same day"
Pros: "Great in flight entertainment. Everyone was nice and friendly, I had an extra seat, and I loved being able to charge my phone"
Cons: "Nothing comes to mind!"
Pros: "The crew was very attentive and professional. The food was very good and plentiful. The entertainment options were very good. I have absolutely no complaints."
Cons: "My original flight was cancelled & this meant I missed my connecting flight to Donegal at 1 pm -- had to wait for the 7 pm flight to Donegal -- I was not happy as I was to attend my Mother's 80 th birthday"
Pros: "The choice Seats did not disappoint. Plenty of room to wiggle around. Food was ok."
Cons: "My seat was in a permanent slightly reclined position even though it's not because when the person behind me pulls himself up he would grab the back part. So it's probably broken. And so every time the crew member would check, she would say to keep my seat upright when it already is. It became annoying at some point. The touch screen did not work so you have to push several times to get the movie working."
Pros: "Excellent service, friendly crew ."
Cons: "Nothing to do with airline or crew, didn't like crying children."
Pros: "Short and easy. Flight crew was helpful."
Delta7.9
KLM7.8
Lufthansa7.8
Finnair7.7
Aer Lingus7.4
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Summary: Can one man stop it all?
All I did was run. That's all I could do, run away from the horrors my eyes had just witnessed. All that I could think of was how my heart had been ripped out of my aching chest, stamped on, picked back up, stamped on again, and then thrown into the nearest dumpster, all in one swift movement.
I thought my head was going to explode because all my emotions running high in my body. Now I know what it was like to get your heart broken. Over the years, people had told me how my boyfriend was a lying cheat. How one day he would break my heart. Being as naive and stubborn as I am, I didn't believe a word of all their lies.
I tried to block out all the noises that I heard. As I ran, I swear I could hear him howl my name through the jungle of people. The sidewalk became so claustrophobic, because people tried to reassure me, as I collapsed on the floor.
I awoke to find people huddling over me, like I was a piece of road kill. As I was trying to breath for air, I heard the murmurs of a thousand people. I unsteadily picked myself up off the sidewalk and dragged my weak and defenceless body to the nearest parking lot. I climbed up, what seemed like a million stairs to the 6th floor, and I managed to find the 6th parking space and took 6 steps toward the window. 6 had always been my favourite number. I stared blankly into the coal covered night. The coldness of the night wind caught my skin, and made me inhale sharply.
As the tall dark man walked towards me, I took a step forward, and the ledge shifted its position and suddenly collapsed.
I screamed as I fell to my gruesome death, the crowd below screamed and fled in all different directions. The last thing I heard was his painful screams, and his heart breaking, just like mine did.
All I have are the ones on here.
I'm thinking of writing some more.
He needs me but I can't do anything because his aunt and nan don't like me, and I know he needs me I have a feeling that he does.
and if you do help him then I'm sure they'll realise how lovely you are.
I think I needed to get it out in the open.
And they don't want to meet me now.
They don't want us to have any contact with each other.
He's just rang me saying that it's all getting to him and that they keep on shouting at him and he said bye and hung up.
no need to say sorry, you need to get things off your chest sometimes.
if you love him you should go to see him, does he live with his aunt and nan?
is there anything really bad that you did for them to hate you?
sorry if I'm being a bit intruding, you don't need to tell me if you don't want to.
I would but i dont know where he lives.
I dont know they just said it isnt the time and that they dont want to see me.
It's ok. I need to get it all off.
then I think that you need to try and contact his nan and aunt.
if you think/know that you are definitley in love with him you can't let his relatives stop it, they just most probablly don't understand?
not meaning to sound blunt here, but is it maybe something to do with him being gay?
Yeah, I'm gonna try and find out where he lives and go see them when he aint around.
I know that I am. Ive never felt this way towards anybody ever.
Btw Ffion...I think I saw you at the 30STM gig...were you stood near the left speakers?


poopie poopie poopie poop. sorry, too much malcolm in the middle.
as a matter of fact miss stroppy knickers my sister happens to love the same kind of music and ive heard almost all of that list. so before you go jumping on your high horse learn that assumption more often then not makes you look stupid.
okie dokie then. i only got pissy cuz i just hate when people make assumptions that they havent even experienced. youre excused. and i did not, however, jump on any horse of any height.
oh i am so glad i have your forgiveness. made my day it really has.
still, to be unwilling to at least attempt to open yourself to a wider range of music is just pure ignorance.


San Ysidro is a predominantly low-income, 93% Latino community, situated along the US-Mexico border, across from the Mexican city of Tijuana. Sources of air pollution include vehicle exhaust from traffic waiting to cross the San Ysidro Port of Entry, the largest land-border crossing in the Western Hemisphere, as well as air pollution from Mexico.
The City of Los Angeles received a $1.7 million grant to start a zero-emission car share pilot project, BlueLA, to operate in four Los Angeles disadvantaged communities.
With $4.1 million from California Natural Resources Agency's Urban Greening program, this project is helping bring the community's vision to fruition and will benefit thousands of community residents. The project will create a safe and green public space where neighbors can come together and a designated route for residents to bike and walk in a safe environment.
Since 2014, Food Forward has been recovering excess fresh produce from the wholesale produce market in downtown Los Angeles and delivering it to large-scale agencies that distribute food to those in need.
The El Centro "Free Trees" program is an Urban Forest Expansion and Improvement project that will plant and maintain 1,000 climate appropriate trees within the city of El Centro.
The project is a continuation of the Turtle Rock Park Biomass Collection site which serves communities in eastern Alpine County. The facility provides a location to collect green waste and biomass that is cleared from private property to create defensible space and thereby reduce wildland fire risk.
CalVans will deploy 154 new, 15-passenger hybrid vans that provide near-zero emission transportation to agricultural job sites in the San Joaquin Valley and other disadvantaged agricultural areas of California, such as the Coachella Valley and Salinas Valley.
The digester projects provide substantial environmental benefits by improving local air quality. Replacing the open-air lagoons of waste with a covered lagoon digester reduces manure-related emissions. Also, utilizing the methane in near-zero emissions natural gas vehicles replaces diesel vehicles and reduces NOX emissions by an estimated 90%.
Dennis DaSilva is a second-generation California dairy farmer whose parents began the family's first dairy farm in 1983 with 150 cows. The $375,000 grant has allowed Mr. DaSilva to replace an existing solid separation system with a new, more efficient manure separator and concrete pad. Separated manure is dried and composted on the concrete pad and is then used for bedding and fertilizer for forage crops.
The Blue Carbon at Elkhorn Slough Project is restoring 66 acres of rare salt marsh habitat and native plants while buffering the surrounding areas against future sea level rise. The Tidal Wetland Program at the Elkhorn Slough National Estuarine Research Reserve guided the project with input from more than 100 local partners, scientists, regulators, and community members.
Car shoppers in San Diego can now get pre-approved before they purchase or lease an EV and then transfer the rebate amount directly to the dealership rather than applying for the rebate after the transaction. In just a few simple steps, the car dealership can claim the transferred rebate and use it to lower the customer's down payment.
In 2018, the Ukiah Unified School District in Mendocino County received funding to replace three older diesel school buses with three new zero-emission electric models.
This program will deploy 38 electric yard trucks, 9 electric gantry cranes, 18 electric heavy lift forklifts, and 15 zero-emission Class 8 trucks. The program is also including a workforce development component with curriculum being developed to support the deployment of this technology with local school districts near the three port locations, community colleges and Long Beach State University.
In Merced County, the Reduced and Free YARTS to Yosemite program allowed adults to ride to Yosemite National Park for $5, and children, ages 0–12 rode free. In Mariposa County, residents were provided free passes to ride the bus to and from the Park.
Nestled along Little Sandy Creek along the northern edge of Fresno County sits the Town of Auberry. To prevent catastrophe from hitting the communities on the western edge of the Sierra National Forest, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection partnered with the California Conservation Corps to reduce the flammable woody material in the area.
The California High-Speed Rail Authority, the city of San Mateo, and the Peninsula Corridor Joint Powers Board are creating a grade separation project at East 25th Avenue, which will raise the Caltrain tracks and slightly lower East 25th Avenue in San Mateo, reducing idling traffic and air pollution, and improving safety.
Antelope Valley Transit Authority is on their way to electrifying their entire fleet, thanks to funding from California State Transportation Agency. They have purchased 29 zero-emission battery-electric buses, including the world's first 60-foot zero-emission battery-electric articulated bus, and the nation's first battery-electric commuter coaches.
In June 2018, the City of Redding was awarded $20 million through the Affordable Housing Sustainable Communities (AHSC) Program to support the Block 7 Net Zero Housing and Downtown Activation Project.


After all of the morning and early afternoon festivities, we continued the birthday celebration on into the evening. A. did not protest. You only turn FIVE once you know.
When Scott came home from work she got to open a few more presents. Aunt Jerry and Uncle Dan in Maine sent a cute little tote bag along with a savings bond. This time last year we visited Maine, and would love to go back. But I am NOT running that Half again.
A sweet friend from church gave A. something right up her alley. A box full of fun papers, gel pens, notepads and of course, envelopes. A. was thrilled! Thank you S.!
Soon it was time to walk over to Pappo and Miss Peggy's (they live two houses away) for a delicious spaghetti supper. And of course...more presents.
You should have heard her excited, although a bit high-pitched, squeal when she opened up High School Musical 2. We might should have checked the windows for cracks.
They also gave her a Barbie doll and a few sets of clothes. In A.'s book, they ROCK.
She put the sprinkles on herself along with the candles. Try to overlook the clump of rainbow sprinkles on one side. I did. It made me twitch, but I did.
After making a wish, blowing out the candles and trying to squeeze cake and ice cream in after spaghetti (no worries, we managed), it was time to call it a night.
Oh. I almost forgot. There was one last present. See?
The Final Act will take place soon, in the form of a small, simple party at our house, with some of her friends. This will be remembered as Polka-Dot-Polooza '08. Note to self: KISS--Keep It Simple Silly.
oh my gosh what a GREAT birthday!!
I can't wait to see the polka dot party- i think you are officially a rockin cool mom thanks to that pink guitar!!
Oh no... my neice is turning 7 in October and is dying for a guitar... I am not sure why? She would be so jealous. We won't tell her!
What a great day all around!! You are such a special mom to make it such a special day for A! I can't wait to see and read about the polka-dot-polooza. It will be fantastic I'm sure!
Holly, your pictures are always gorgeous...so clear and beautiful!
Oh my gosh, that little guitar is adorable. Happy Birthday to your sweet girl!!
she is so adorable. I just want to squeeze those cheeks!
Are you coming to see me in the 'ville??? You need to flee from IKE!!! Hurry!!! We can play games and stay up all night. You know how much we love slumber parties!
What fun! She is beautiful!
Oh, man! That is ONE lucky birthday girl.
Your Annelise is so darn cute!
I've been thinking of you guys and hoping you are safe and sound with the storm heading your way!
Oh Holly! I laughed outloud at your Tales from a Maine run!
Might answer my question of whether I need to bring along my own thirst quencher Sunday morning! Nashville was great --- TONS of sidelines fuel. Not so sure our lesser-known Lewis & Clark marathon will be quite as well stocked. Or populated.
holly are you okayin the storm? I am worried about you!!!!
Holly - I know you live semi close to my sister. They seemed to weather the Ike, I was hoping you are well too. Is your electricity on? Let us know how you are - so we don't have to worry. Take care Holly!


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When you're trying to get the best performance out of multiple drives, a redundant array of independent disks (RAID) is your best bet. There are plenty of RAID modes levels (modes) to choose from, but many favor RAID 10 for its reliability and speed.
RAID 10 is an example of nested RAID, where two or more arrays are integrated into another RAID that is then visible to the system. In the case of RAID 10 (also known as RAID 1 + 0), this means having two or more RAID 1 arrays combined into a RAID 0 array. RAID 10's sibling is RAID 0 + 1, where the top level RAID 1 array is comprised of two or more RAID 0 arrays.
RAID 10 is an example of nested RAID.
As a result, RAID 10 offers both the great resiliency of RAID 1 with the hot striping action of RAID 0. The only downside is that it requires at least four drives to work. Since RAID 10 stacks a series of RAID 1 arrays together, expanding storage means adding at least two drives, not just one.
As far as speed is concerned, you get all the speed benefits of RAID 0, but instead of speed as a function of the number of drives, speed is calculated as a function of the number of RAID 1 stripes.
To use RAID 10, there are two methods we're going to show here: software RAID and FakeRAID. Software RAID is implemented by the OS, and the OS handles the logic for the array. FakeRAID is often denoted by motherboard manufacturers as "onboard RAID." FakeRAID is still software driven, but that software works at the BIOS level, rather than the OS.
If you're only running one OS, or you'll only need your RAID in one OS, go for software RAID. If you're going to need to share the RAID 10 array between two OSes, or plan on installing an OS on top of your RAID, go with FakeRAID.
When connecting your drives for use in RAID, be sure to use the same interface for the drive. If two drives in your array are using SATA 6Gbps, use the same interface for every other drive you intend to add to the array. If your motherboard has multiple SATA controllers (our Gigabyte board had the built-in Intel controller as well as a Marvell controller), make sure you use the main controller if you plan on using FakeRAID. We had problems getting our BIOS to detect drives that were attached to our motherboard's additional Marvell controller.
It's also a good idea to make sure all of the drives in your array are using the latest firmware. Firmware fixes can result in better speeds and fix potential bugs that can wreak havoc on your data.
Unlike with other RAID levels like 0, 1, or 5, Windows 8 doesn't have an obvious option for creating RAID 10 arrays using Storage Spaces. Similarly, Windows 8 can't combine RAID arrays in its Disk Management utility either. It can however combine RAID 1 arrays created with Storage Spaces with RAID 0 in the Disk Management utility.
To start, hit Win+S and search for "storage spaces" and open the utility. Next, click create a new pool and storage space . You'll be prompted for administrator access.
You'll be greeted by a windows showing all the unformatted disks that can be used. Here, you'll have to decide how you want your disks spread out in your arrays. Remember that you'll need at least two drives for each RAID 1 stripe. Since we used four drives in our example, we selected the first two drives for our first stripe. Select the drives you want to use and click Create pool .
Each pool will represent a RAID 1 array that will be a stripe for RAID 0. Choose your drives for your storage pools accordingly.
Next, the wizard will prompt you to create a storage space in the pool. For Resiliency type, select "Two-way mirror." This is the equivalent to RAID 1. Don't worry about the filesystem or drive letter: that will be rendered irrelevant later. However, label each stripe something memorable (like Mirror 1, Mirror 2, etc.) so you'll be able to find it later. When you're ready, click Create storage space to create the array.
Give your storage space a drive label so you can find it later.
Once you're done with the first pool, repeat the steps for every other stripe that you'll be creating. In our case, we repeated the steps with our remaining two drives.
When Disk Management is open, you should see your disks (RAID 1 arrays) in the bottom part of the window, identified by the labels you gave them. Now, we're going to get rid of the filesystems on those drives. For each disk, right click on the blue segment and select "Delete Volume." Be careful to leave your system disks and any other attached drives intact. When in doubt, double-check and cross-reference the drive label with the one shown in Storage Spaces.
Deleting a volume will remove the selected partition on that disk.
Once all the RAID 1 disks are clear of filesystems, it's time to create our RAID 0 array. Right click one of your RAID 1 disks and select "New Striped Volume..." In the popup window that follows, add each of the RAID 1 disks you want to use and click Next .
Assign the RAID 10 array a drive letter. This isn't necessary, but if you want to use your drive right away, it's the fastest method to do so. The next screen of the popup window, select the filesystem you want (NTFS or ReFS), and enter a drive label. You can also enable drive compression here. If you forget, you can always change it later in Windows Explorer.
You've done the hard part. Now all you have to do is give the volume a name.
The last screen will ask you to review your options. When you're satisfied everything looks good, click Finish. A final popup will ask you if its okay to convert your drives into dynamic disks. This basically is warning you that you'll lose any data on them, and that other OSes won't be able to see them. We're okay with this, so click Yes.
That's it! It will take Windows a while to format the drives for use, but when it's all done, you'll have a shiny new RAID 10 array.


Steelhead.....Trout or salmon? | Smoking Meat Forums - The Best Barbecue Discussion Forum On Earth!
Discussion in 'Fish' started by smokeamotive, Dec 11, 2010.
1. Is Steelhead a Salmon or a Trout?
2. Will Steelhead smoke as well as a Salmon?
Although I've never done fish. I'm pretty sure they are close relatives and should smoke the same.
Steelhead is a sea going rainbow trout. I prefer them to salmon. For smoking, you can do it the same as you would a similar size salmon. Incredibly delicious. Remember to post some pics.
Cool, I thought I perhaps made a big blunder when I pick them up by mistake. going to put them in the new MES 40 I got.just have to figure out which recipe I will use to brine and smoke them.
One tip if you are catching your own salmon up river... don't go for the brightest chrome fish you can. Instead save that well coloured fish for smoking. by the time they have been in the freshwater They have more of the tasty oils in them and they finish with noticeably more flavour than a fresh sea run Salmon will. Strange but true.
Steelhead are rainbows that take a salt bath for a few years. They are tasty, not quite like salmon but I'd still smoke them.
Alot of Steelhead never ever see saltwater. They catch tonnes of them where my father lives and they never leave the local area. Some are wild some are farmed.
taxonomically, steelhead were re-classified as salmon about 20 years ago. They are not as oil and fat-rich as some of the Pacific salmon, notably sockeye, king and silvers. They CAN be delicious grilled or smoked, like a previous poster mentioned, colored-up fish are better smoked, and brighter fish tend to be better grilled. Every now and then, in defiance of color or shape, you'll get an extremely strong tasting fish that you wished you hadn't cooked.
Best tasting grilled steelhead recipe I've found it quite simple - chunked, skin on, skin down over the hottest coals possible. Lemon pepper, and a shot of any Italian herb blend. Brush on a mix of melted butter and honey after the fillet is starting to dry at the edges, then carefully work a spatula between flesh and skin and flip meat back on to the skin. Scrape off and brown/silver fat remaining on skin side, and brush again with honey/butter. This is good hot off the grill, but a LOT better served chilled.
Serve with a cold lemon/dill mayonnaise.
The oncorhynchus is a member of the salmonidae family which includes all Pacific salmon and trout.
Good steelhead has firm flesh with bright silver skin. Downriver steelheads turn red. This happens after spawning and they float downriver while dying. There is much debate as to the tastiness of downrivers. Most locals prefer bright silver (aka brights) steelehead. Some will take downrivers for use as dungess crab bait. It can be either smoked or grill. Tastes great either way. Best way I have found thus far is to descale, remove pin bones (if filleted), and coat skin with evoo. Season lightly with salt and ground pepper. Steelhead, sockeye, Chinook, and coho are naturally good.
I'd love to try fresh trout or salmon again, but not from around here!!! All Lake Ontario salmonoid species taste like absolute garbage in my book. I've tried Kings, Coho, Steelies, Browns and Lakers (on the grill only). Smothered them in fresh garlic, butter, lemon and white wine--still yuck!!! Has anyone had good-luck grillin or smokin Great Lakes fish?
I'm sure they will be good no matter what they are. I have only smoked salmon but I have heard both are great. Good luck.
I prefer dime bright salmon over the ones that have been in fresh water for too long as they head up stream.
The flesh is firmer on the ones that have just come from saltwater. The colored ones are ok for smoking, canning, or dog food. They are horrible on the grill- too mushy.
And don't get me started on farmed fish.
Are you talking about Lake O fish from out in the lake or spawners from the tributaries? I've caught a few summer kings out in the lake and they are better than store-bought for grilling, but the ones I get out of the tributaries in the fall... not so much. Smoked, however, the spawners out of the tributaries are delicious. Before you write them off totally, smoke up the next one you catch and see how much better a bit of brine and some thin blue smoke can make them.
To the original question asked on this thread - Steelhead are the same species as rainbow trout, the difference being habitat. Small bodies of water=smaller fish=rainbow trout. Big water=big fish=steelhead. They are an anadromous member of the family salmonidae, and are native to the pacific ocean. They have been successfully introduced into fresh-water-only environments across the country. In smaller waters, they do not attain much by way of size, and are generally called rainbow trout. In larger waters (i.e. Great Lakes), they grow almost as large as their counterparts in the pacific and are called steelhead. Growing up in upstate NY, I used to go fishing for rainbow trout in the Finger Lakes tributaries each spring. Now I like to fish the Lake Ontario tributaries for steelhead in the fall and spring. In fact, I caught a nice 10 pounder just yesterday, and it will be going into my ECB as soon as I catch one more to go with it They smoke up and taste very much like salmon, but maybe don't soak up quite as much salt during brining. I did a salmon and a steelhead on the smoker yesterday, and the salmon tastes much saltier (both were Lake Ontario fish).


Basic Beekeeping: LESSON 61: WHICH IS BEST: A NUC OR PACKAGE?
Hello from Long Lane Honey Bee Farms, and welcome to today's lesson in Beekeeping, as we look at the best way to start up a hive, whether it be package bees, a nuc or buying an existing hive. Don't know what a nuc is? Then read on. Today's Blog/Lesson will be a lot of fun. I'll show you some questions from the master beekeeper test and you can see how well you would have done. Plus, information on our upcoming class and photos from the EAS meeting in Ellicottville, NY.
Before we get into today's lesson, let me say that so many people have signed up to receive these lessons directly as Emails. It's free, and you can unsubscribe any time. Use the link below to add your email so that every time we create a new lesson, you'll be sure to receive it right into your INBOX!
And don't forget to sign up for our classes we are offering in a few weeks. We still have a few openings. You can register online at: www.honeybeesonline.com/classes.html On this link, we have maps and directions.
I made it home from a week in Ellicottville, New York attending the Eastern Apicultural Society (EAS). Wow! What a jammed packed week of super lectures, demonstrations and new and helpful information on beekeeping.
Being able to attend workshops of the most well known entomologists in the country was very informative. Almost all of the speakers were more than approachable throughout the week, and needless to say, I picked a few brains. I was really impressed with the Holiday Valley Resort. It's really designed for golfers and skiers, but it quickly became home for over 400 beekeepers.
Here's Dave Tarpy giving an outdoor class on queen rearing and grafting. Dave is extremely intelligent and has an effective way to translate his knowledge down to the average beekeeper.
As I told you in my last communique, I've started my journey on becoming a master beekeeper. I studied long and hard and did the best I could. This master beekeepers certification used to be associated through Dr. Morse with Cornell University, but was taken over in 1981 by the Eastern Apiculture Society under the direction of Dr. Clarence Collison.
It is a very vigorous and thorough program. I tested in all four areas hoping to pass at least one my first year, and did better. I passed two! And only missed the third one by 6 points. This will give me 51 weeks to study up and try to pass the other two sections next year. (These are various pictures taken from the convention).
a) within the first 24 hours after a virgin queen emerges from her mating flight.
b) when the queen begins to lay eggs.
c) after the queen begins to lay eggs.
d) just before the queen is ready to take a mating flight.
"The ovaries of worker honey bees have _______ovarioles.
The answer is: BHere's a picture of Gary Reuter who works with Marla Spivak on the Minnesota Hygienic Queen. Gary is a swell guy and always a lot of fun.
Queens infected with nosema disease cease egg-laying and die within a few weeks of infection?
The principle component of the alarm pheromone associated with the mandibles is isopentyl acetate.
The commercial production of apples requires cross-varietal pollination.
The answer is: TRUESacbrood infected larvae are unable to molt from the larval to the pupal stage.
One essay question asked to give a detailed explanation of how to use the "Demaree Technique."
The lab testing contained tables set up with various medicines, real infected frames of various diseases and tables with beekeeping equipment. The microscopes were set up with various pests in which we had to identify pests such as a male mite versus a female mite. So as you can see, it is a pretty thorough test.
I have the highest respect for EAS. I believe it is one of the best beekeeping organizations that I know of, and I would highly recommend that all beekeepers attend the EAS. LESSON 60: WHICH IS BEST? A NUC OR A PACKAGE OF BEES?
People are already calling us trying to reserve package bees. This year, everyone sold out faster than normal and left many beekeepers disappointed that they did not secure their orders earlier in the year. It happens every year. So let me give a brief run down on the proper way to make sure you purchase bees in time for a great spring.
There are three options: Packages, nucs or to purchase an existing live hive. Now, let me give you the pros and cons.
A) A Live Hive. This is probably the most difficult to purchase. Very few beekeepers want to sell a good, live hive. For example, one hive can earn me around $500 per year in producing nucs, queens and honey. So why would I want to sell it for half that price? So when a beekeeper wants to sell, the big question to ask is why? If the answer is understandable, like maybe the beekeeper is moving or has become allergic to bees or passed away, then that may be a good deal. However, when you purchase a live hive, you are also purchasing all the existing problems such as small hive beetles, tracheal mite, varroa mites, wax moths or diseases such as nosema, American Foul Brood or European Foul Brood or deformed wing virus, just to name a few.
Never purchase a live hive until it has been thoroughly inspected by a state apiary inspector and given a clean bill of health. This might be a good approach, but you have to find a beekeeper willing to sell a hive, and then make sure it is a clean hive. Remember, American Foul Brood can live on equipment for up to 80 years! Never buy used equipment if you are a new beekeeper!
B) Packages. Packages have been the way beekeepers in the North have received bees from the South for over 100 years. Southern beekeepers shake bees out of their hives and into screened cages. Sometimes it may take shaking bees out of three different hives to equal three pounds. Then, a new queen, in a separate cage, is placed in among the bees along with a can of either hard candy or sugar syrup. But there are some concerns. Let me list a few:--Will the queen be healthy and properly mated.
the bees and the queen.
both the reproductive ability of drones and queens.
So, while this is the "industry standard" and has been for a century, it is not risk free or fail safe.
C) NUC. What is a NUC? A nuc is a short expression referring to the nucleus of a live hive. The nucleus, or nuc, usually contains four or five frames from a complete hive. Those frame include brood in various stages and frames mixed with honey, pollen and brood. The queen has already been accepted and is the mother of all the bees including the brood in the frames. Below are two lists, the first will be the advantages of a nuc, and the last will be the disadvantages.
Advantages of a nuc:--The frames are from a proven, successful existing hive.
--The queen is released and has been laying among the frames for some time.
wait for the bees to draw comb.
--Since nucs are picked up, there are no shipping stresses.
--It is easy to transfer the frames into your own equipment.
--Are not usually available until June.
--You receive comb from another beekeeper that could contain pests or diseases.
In conclusion, any of the three above options can work and work quite well. If you work through the pros and cons, then you can see which options is best for you. I'm not afraid of starting with a nuc or a package. But, I would be very nervous about buying someone else's live hive. I probably like the idea of packages better, because I can get a two month head start. Some say that time wise, a June nuc will be as far along as an April package in June. But that is not entirely true. An April package will be weeks ahead of a nuc by the same time in June.
In my opinion, there are as many chances to be taken by buying nucs as there are packages. Nuc providers are not above small hive beetles, mites or diseases. When we sold our nucs this year, they were inspected frame by frame by our state inspector. They passed with no problems. But state inspectors do not inspect for Nosema or Tracheal mites. So I'd say the playing field is pretty even as to which is better, a nuc or a package.
That's it for today's lesson and I hope you've enjoyed our time together. Our next lesson will be about how you should manage your hives now that summer is heading into fall. We'll talk about combining weak hives with strong ones, and how to treat for mites and how to feed hives that are low in stored honey for the winter.
Today I received many calls from folks thanking me for these informative lessons, and we do enjoy sharing our knowledge with you. We also want to thank you for your business. We realize you could purchase your beekeeping supplies from the "big-boys" so we appreciate you supporting a hard working family business.


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Car-Free Households Are Booming in San Francisco
Image: Michael Rhodes
San Francisco is quickly adding residents, but very few cars.
Between 2000 and 2012, the city has seen a net increase of 11,139 households, and 88 percent of them have been car-free. That's according to an analysis of U.S. Census data by Michael Rhodes, a transportation planner at Nelson\Nygaard and a former Streetsblog reporter. One net result of this shift is that the proportion of San Francisco households who own zero cars increased from 28.6 percent in 2000 to 31.4 percent in 2012, the fifth-highest rate among large American cities.
The stats show that the city's average car ownership rate is declining, even as the population is growing. The data don't distinguish where specific households are foregoing cars, so this doesn't necessarily mean that the residents of all the new condo buildings going up are car-free. But the broader effect is reverberating throughout the city, whether car-free residents are moving in where car-owning residents previously lived, or residents are selling their cars.
This finding flies in the face of complaints from NIMBYs who protest new housing developments that forego parking, based on a faulty assumption that new residents will own cars anyway and take up precious, free street parking. That's one of the arguments heard from proponents of the cars-first Proposition L, who complain that "the City has eliminated the time-honored practice of creating one parking space for every new unit."
"A lot of people who are moving here are choosing it because it's a place you can get around without a car," said Livable City Executive Director Tom Radulovich. "People will self-select. If convenience for an automobile is their criterion, there's a lot of places in the city and elsewhere" to live.
Radulovich noted a number of changes in the 21st century that have made it easier not to own a car. San Francisco has expanded its bike lanes, car-share services now exist, and taxi service has improved (besides the new "ride-share" apps like Uber and Lyft). Muni, BART, and Caltrain ridership have also increased to record levels over the years.
And, Radulovich noted, even the new wave of tech workers tends to get to work on shuttles — unlike those in the dot-com boom of the 90s, who favored living near highways 101 and 280 so they could easily drive to Silicon Valley.
"There's a lot of people who get to work on the tech buses — those might've been car owners a decade ago," he said.
Across the country, Americans are driving less, and millennials in particular are generally more interested than earlier generations in car-free city living. Radulovich pointed out that it's often older residents who insist that the city build more free parking (see: Prop L). "There's definitely a set of cultural expectations, from those raised in the '50s and '60s, for car ownership and automobility," he said.
According to the Census' American Community Survey, 31.4 percent of SF households surveyed in 2012 were car-free. That's up from 29.8 percent in 2009 and 28.6 in 2000. (Note: The 2013 SFMTA Transportation Fact Sheet incorrectly cited the most recent stat as 21 percent.)
Even among the 12 percent of new households since 2000 that do own cars, many are car-lite — not each individual owns a car. SF has actually seen a net decline in two-car households despite growth in total households, while the number of households with three or more cars increased by slightly more.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of changes in car ownership rates since 2000, provided by Rhodes:
Unit type Change
All units +11,139
Car-free +9,837
1 car +1,242
2 car -1,123
3 or more cars +1,183
The statistics show the efficacy of providing better alternatives to car ownership, but they also underscore the importance of building more housing in walkable, transit-oriented neighborhoods throughout the Bay Area.
"Certainly, we need to find places in those [walkable San Francisco] neighborhoods where we can build. The good news is, if the new households that are coming to those neighborhoods are car-free, then we can spend a lot less space on parking and use that for housing, and the automobile-oriented impacts [like traffic] of increased density may not materialize," said Radulovich. "But San Francisco's a small place — and if we've got a whole generation that wants walkable, urban places, and this is the only place in the Bay Area that offers that, then there's gonna be a lot of competition for it."
Filed Under: Car Culture, Parking, GJEL
Car-Free Households in San Francisco Above 30 Percent
By Matthew Roth | Dec 1, 2010
According to the new San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency 2010 Transportation Fact Sheet, the number of car-free households increased. Last year [pdf], data show that 29.8 percent of households had no car, a number than climbed to 30.3 percent this year [pdf]. Oddly, it seems the shift came mostly from households with one car, as […]
The American Cities With the Most Growth in Car-Free Households
By Angie Schmitt | Jan 21, 2014
Have we reached peak car in America? Research from the University of Michigan suggests the answer is "yes." The highest rate of vehicle ownership in America occurred in 2007, when the average household owned 2.07 vehicles, according to research by Michael Sivak for the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute [PDF]. Recently, the average number […]
Uber and Lyft Don't Reduce Cars. Transit Does.
Seattle is the only major city that really grew the number of car-free and car-light households in the last five years. It's also the only one that's really grown transit ridership.
Studies Show Car Traffic in San Francisco is Dropping
By Aaron Bialick | Nov 12, 2014
Car traffic has dropped in San Francisco in recent years, despite an economic boom and a growing population, according to studies by the SF County Transportation Authority. A newly updated study (reported by SF Weekly) by the SFCTA counted fewer cars at 11 of 15 intersections during evening peak hours this year, compared to earlier […]
A Decade of Growth for Transit-Accessible Neighborhoods in America
By Angie Schmitt | Jun 11, 2014
The first decade of the millennium saw significant growth for transit in America. From 2000 to 2010, the number of regions with fixed-guideway transit — rail systems or bus systems with dedicated lanes — grew from 27 to 40. And ridership followed. In the period beginning in 1995 and ending in 2008, total American transit ridership […]
Measuring the Shift Away From Car Ownership, City By City
By Angie Schmitt | Jul 31, 2013
A new analysis by Michael Andersen at Bike Portland helps illuminate how shifts in car ownership are playing out in different cities. Andersen reviewed Census data from 2005 and 2011. He found that households with less than one car per adult accounted for about 60 percent of Portland's population growth. About one in four Portland households met […]

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