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Part 39: Is a greedy, viperous lawyer in California helping Stormpuke-stormpay-nopay in getting away with all of the money?
[ I have written a series of posts about the "pay the storm" bugaboos. I call it "The Stormpuke--Stormpay Story: Getting to the Heart of the Matter in Posts" . You can get it here. This nightmare is ongoing with no end in site. ]
I have mentioned a lot of bad things about California in my recent posts about stormpuke. It has become very clear, as plain as day, that the state of California is a state of wasteland. If you live in California and you need a lawyer, you're better off going out of state in getting one. If you can't afford the cost, then it would be best to pack your bags and let the celebrities wallow in the wasteland. One day, they will learn that it didn't pay to be greedy. One day too late. And a dollar short.
Wasn't it bad enough that Mr. Minkow, the lawyer that helped stormpuke get the court order in California just so that they don't have to pay the money they stoled back? And now there's another lawyer in the midst, giving people a hard time so that they don't stand a chance in getting their money back. You may have heard of him if you belong to any group at yahoogroups. His name is Paul Andrew Mitchell.
What started out as an innocent question turned into a nuclear spat with Mr. Mitchell. Despite the fact the spat occurred over two weeks ago, his name keeps coming up with the ponzi scheme issue. I will be talking about the ponzi scheme issue in the next post or two, as the nightmare with stormpuke keeps taking turns for the worst.
There is more to the Paul Andrew Mitchell story. Before the spat, I was doing research on the RICO ACT and his name kept coming up. Not only his name, but the names of those that he sued. He has a "colorful" and disturbing history. What I present is the following information I found and where it comes from, should Mr. Mitchell end up getting his way, and have the sites either censored or taken down. I will talk about the nuclear spat after I present some sites.
According to Wikipedia, Paul Andrew Mitchell is not his real name. It's a pseudonym for Mitch Modeleski. On the page that wikipedia created on him, it says that he's sued universities for stealing and selling copies of his book. The book that he even had available at his own site [ http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/ sorry no spider traffic for LIARS] the the whole time. Now why is he continuing to sue people when he has the book available at his site? Does that make sense to you?
Its the same question that the famguardian.org site asked. As a matter of fact, they have NOTHING nice to say about Mr. Mitchell. Their story is below:
source: famguardian.org
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/CaseStudies/WhosWho/WhosWho.htm#Modeleski,%20Mitch%20(a.k.a.%20Paul%20Andrew%20Mitchell)
Modeleski, Mitch (a.k.a. Paul Andrew Mitchell)
* Website: http://www.supremelaw.org
* Date range: 1990-Present
* Picture [ http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/CaseStudies/WhosWho/ModeleskyMitch.jpg ]
* Biography: A former systems analyst contractor for the government. Lived in the San Francisco Bay Area and later moved down to San Diego. Main claim to fame is his free book entitled The Federal Zone, featured for free downloading on his website. The main focus of the book is the Nonresident Alien Position, which we also advocate and explain in our Great IRS Hoax book, section 5.6.12. His The Federal Zone book is lucid and organized. By email and personally, he can be very accusatory and irrational. According to people whose house he stayed at and who provided his picture, he suffers from mental illness and possibly paranoia. They agreed that the assessment of him here was "very accurate". He seldom gives out his phone number or contact information, even to his closest friends, and is difficult to locate. He uses PO boxes and forwarding agents instead of providing his real physical address, which is consistent with someone who is paranoid. He also appears to have "ownership myopia" and is very possessive of his research and his book. He has litigated against over 200 people who made his Federal Zone book available on the internet, even though ironically he makes it available for free on the Internet on his website and the people who he litigated against were doing exactly the same thing. The first lawsuit he filed in northern California U.S. District Court against those who he accused of copyright infringement was dismissed with prejudice. We have asked him about this crazy contradiction, and he has nothing to say in his defense, so we have to conclude the only rational motivation can be either craving for public attention (arrogance) or mental illness. He has vindictively tried to litigate against us but never successfully or properly served us, and yet continues to send us threatening emails, probably because he views us as a competitor. This kind of conflict only hurts the tax honesty movement because it diverts attention from solutions and onto conflict that dissipates needless energy on pointless pursuits. When we pointed this out to him, he had nothing to say in his defense. Supportive of Lynn Meredith's work, who learned much of what she knows from Mitch in regards to the Nonresident Alien Position. Meredith's books, as a matter of fact, use a lot of the materials from Mitch's website. However, when Meredith began to commercialize his work, this alienated him from her. Below are some words describing him from a person who claims to have helped him and knew him well:
Like everyone who has ever met this guy, I have nothing good to say about him. Well ok, one thing...when he is in his manic state he's a hard worker. He is all the experience I ever want with manic depressive folks.
Paul loves intrigue, and has fantasies of the FBI hunting him down. He fled Tucson with the help of a friend (in Dec 97), and using his hat for ID and some code words, I picked him up in El Paso. According to him the FBI wants to incarcerate him and inject him with the AIDs virus to shut him up. The story keys in nicely with his ravings about "them" kidnapping children and flying plane loads of them to unknown locations to harvest their organs.
At first he thanked me profusely for "saving my life". In the end I dumped him out in town with his few things, and some money he claimed I owed for all his work. On his way out of town he filed a mechanic's lien on my place. The lien has since expired. By his own admissions he has treated others the same way. I was just too stupid at the time to listen to his stories and know that I'd soon be treated the same. He complained endlessly about the deplorable conditions the Montana Freemen 'forced' him to endure and how they cheated him out of money for his work etc etc.
When he was considering filing suit against AOL, the University of So. Cal., and a dozen others for copyright violations re "The Federal Zone", he wanted his hero lawyer (can't remember who that was) to take the case on a contingency basis. He stewed about it for 2 weeks but never picked up the phone to call the guy, thinking he would be rejected. One morning we headed to town to get some things at the lumber yard, and he was moaning over this lawyer and his fear of calling. I said "So the great Paul Mitchell is a fucking wuss?". He just looked at me and didn't speak the rest of the day. I didn't see him for 2 days until I got to wondering where he could be. I checked his quarters and found him in bed. From the looks of him at first I thought he was dead. Finally I was able to rouse him enough to at least know he was alive. He remained like that for 3 more days. When he finally got up he raged about the children's organ thefts, the injustice of it all, etc. It was frightening for me.
Paul files suits and liens, to get even with those who have wronged him. He's a spiteful person. . . . He lives in poverty and depends on the good will of a long string of people that he can convince to feel sorry for him.
I have had no contact with him since Feb 98, and I hope that is the last of that. His lawsuit against you will wither on the vine. His lifestyle forces him to move frequently, which makes it hard for him to get anything done.
Thanks so much for all your work. The [Great IRS] Hoax book is wonderful.
End of source: famguardian.org
If that wasn't scary enough, here are just a few people that were sued by him and "their" story:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000034.html
[which is linked to the site above] http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/
http://www.etext.org/lawsuit/
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackcrawl/fed_zone_incident.txt
http://chronicle.com/free/2002/03/2002030701t.htm
http://fz.justpickone.org/FZ/
And now you can add my story to the list, as what was supposed to be an innocent question turned out into a nuclear war. I was warned by the lord himself as to what would transpire. I think it was HIS way of saying that he's sick and tired of seeing Mr. Mitchell take advantage of people. There are those who go around on yahoogroups, soliciting their business in a sneaky way, so that people don't catch on to the "spam" tactic for awhile. My story can be easily verified through http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TruthAGAINSTtradition/
Notebox added 3/4/2009
Formerly the group was called TruthAGAINSTtradition. It's now called TruthABOVEtraditon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TruthABOVEtraditon/
I have included the message numbers here for convenience. The paragraphs that are **** are my comments, as I feel that some things needed to be explained for an easier understanding of the situation. I don't expect you to read it all. If you want, you can scroll all the way at the end to read the last couple of paragraphs, as there are lessons to be learned from all of this:
Starting with Message 21687
From: "xenacarpenter"
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 12:19 am
Subject: Re: 240 U.S. Patent numbers for vaporizing gasoline (a Ship of State powered by
I found this amusing site by accident.
http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/index2.html
documents: http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/LETTERS/
**** Not long after I had sent that to the group, Mr. Mitchell sent me the following private email.
From: "Paul Andrew Mitchell"
To:	"xenacarpenter"
If you want to have a fight,
I'll give you my address,
and a date and time where
we can meet and look each
other in the eye.
YOU GAME?
YOUR MOVE.
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, Criminal Investigator and
Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13, 1964(a)
**** I was not looking for a fight. I simply wanted to know what his side of the story is.
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 5:58 am
http://www.supremelaw.org/copyrite/uoregon.edu/memo.ag01.htm
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/aol/
http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/
See replies from DOJ to our standard FOIA requests.
Shubb, Drozd, Trott, Ginsburg, Thomas and Breyer
all turned up without credentials.
I was never ever allowed to get even close to a jury.
YOU FIND THIS AMUSING?
I did NOT create the website to which you refer,
and they do not have my permission to use my name
in that fashion.
The Supreme Law Library is our website:
http://www.supremelaw.org/
Perhaps you are just ignorant of the facts.
Or, maybe you are the kind of person who likes
to poke sticks into someone's eye?
**** Actually anyone can use your name for a domain name. The only way to prevent it, is if you're a celebrity like Paris Hilton or Eminem. Sad but true.
This is all PHONY INFORMATION:
Paul Andrew Mitchell Truth Committee
Kirkbride Building, Belmont Street
There is no such "Committee".
Worcester is the town where I was born.
The "Building" in question is a mental hospital.
WHOIS database record for that website follows:
whois record for: paulandrewmitchell.com
Current Registrar: EASYDNS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
registrar: EASYDNS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
whois: whois.easydns.com
referrer: http://www.easydns.com
NS1.EASYDNS.COM
REMOTE1.EASYDNS.COM
status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
expires: 24-jan-2006
Registrar Data:
Domain name: PAULANDREWMITCHELL.COM
Administrative Contact:
Mitchell, Paul pam@...
508 226-3335 Fax: NA
Technical Contact:
Registrar of Record: easyDNS Technologies, Inc.
Record last updated on 08-Dec-2004.
Record expires on 24-Jan-2006.
Record created on 24-Jan-2003.
NS1.EASYDNS.COM 216.220.40.243
NS2.EASYDNS.COM 205.210.42.20
REMOTE1.EASYDNS.COM 64.39.29.212
REMOTE2.EASYDNS.COM 212.100.224.80
Domain status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Data in the easyDNS Registrar WHOIS database is provided for
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[end excerpt]
**** You do remember what the famguardian.org site said about him being mentally disturbed. That Kirkbride Building is probably the name of the mental institution that he must have been living at for a time period or something.
Subject: HEY, XENA, PLEASE DIAL 508 226-3335
GO CHASE YOUR OWN WILD GEESE
I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS JUNK.
GOODBYE.
**** He didn't have time? Apparently he did for him to be soliciting his business at other yahoogroups. The next few messages are not only violent, but disturbing.
Subject: http://www.xenasvacuumheads.com
Subject: definition of "VACUUM HEAD" (TAKE AND TAKE)
Vacuum Head n.
an empty cranium
mounted on a vacuum cleaner
sucking its way thru life
like ravenous vampires
who just can't get enough
free pixels on their monitors
PIXELS PIXELS ... GIMME MORE PIXELS!!!!
GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
AMERICA, YOU WERE WARNED,
NUMEROUS TIMES. NOW,
PREPARE FOR YOUR JUDGMENT.
YOU HAD NO RIGHT
TAKE AND TAKE.
"Judgment is mine, sayeth the Lord."
Subject: EXTENSIVE BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WRITINGS BY XENO THE FLYING JACKASS
From: Supreme Law Firm
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 12:03 pm
Subject: FORMAL COMPLAINT OF FALSE AND DEFAMATORY MATERIAL BY REGISTERED WEBSITE
Greetings EASYDNS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.:
The following website contains false, fraudulent and defamatory material:
Mitchell, Paul pam@paulandrewmitchell.com
There is no such "Committee";
I am not the Administrative Contact for "it";
the building is a mental hospital;
Worcester is the town where I was born;
the telephone listed is not in service (I called it).
The responsible party(s) have no permission
to use and abuse my good name and reputation
Please provide me with documentation describing
your policies and procedures for initiating a formal
complaint against the guilty party(s), and for initiating
appropriate disciplinary and other appropriate legal action.
I am also requesting that you disclose the name,
company, mailing address, fax and telephone
numbers for the principal responsible for the
web server computers where this defamatory
material is currently being hosted on the Internet.
Thank you very much for your immediate cooperation.
I see you wasted no time with your private verbal threats and
uncalled for accusations in my box. All just because I found a
website that had your name on it to be coincidental, not to mention
just asking a simple question.
For one who is supposed to be a professional, you act immature.
I am banning my own butt from this forum to save cliffy and lindy the
trouble of busting their own knuckles. Effective Immediately
**** From that point, I had subscribed to the list with my other yahoo id and watched how things would transpire. Mr. Mitchell sent me another private email saying the following:
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:23:41 -0000
Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoogroups.com. Learn more
Subject:	take some advice (NOT a "threat")
STOP BEING STUPID
**** Stupid? Being stupid about what. He's the one that is being the stupid one with his verbal abuse. All just because I posted link to a site that had documents about him suing people. As you will see, his verbal abuse grew worse at tenfold.
From: "Jesus is THE Truth"
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] Re: 240 U.S. Patent numbers for vaporizing gasoline (a Ship of State powered by
I think the below information is excellent, and does go to show that what Xena found was/is bogus.. however, in all honesty, I think you were a tad hard on her in later comments.. First of all, we aren't all of the same knowledge base.. but even so, I don't see that she was accusing.. yes, the laughter part could surely be annoying, but maybe the laughter was at the very thing she sent..?.. In any case, I am of the mind-set that *asking questions is a GOOD thing*.. better to ask and be wrong, than to assume and be wrong.. which is what the parrot masses do.. .. just my thoughts
Oddball out,
From: "linda robb"
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] http://www.xenasvacuumheads.com
This is all very unfortunate and I do believe that whereas you do have a good complaint Paul...time to put it to rest I think and please let us move on. I appreciate her asking questions...albeit maybe the wrong way. But, all that being said...time to put it to bed and get over it. Thanks, Linda
P.S. Besides, on occasion I hear this big sucking sound coming from my head. None of us are immune. :>)
**** Get over it? No he wasn't going to get over anything, much less stop with his verbal abuse.
No, you have it all wrong:
The website in question is actively and deliberately
defaming me: THAT'S A CRIME, AND IGNORANCE OF THAT
CRIMINAL LAW IS NO EXCUSE.
You showed poor judgment by sharing and disseminating
that information widely, PRIOR TO asking me privately if
I had any connection with it, or if I had ever authorized
it to continue in its present form, E.G. using my full
name without my permission.
I provided you with a clear and concise reply.
I never threatened you in any manner whatsoever.
I have now had to chase down the WHOIS registration entry
for that false and defamatory website.
GUESS WHAT? The registration entry is FALSE AND DEFAMATORY TOO!!!
I have now had to lodge several COMPLAINTs with the registrar
for that false and defamatory website, and for their own
false and defamatory WHOIS database entry.
I now have to follow through by contacting the Toronto
Police Department, because the registrar evidently
does not want to confirm exactly how and why their
own published Terms and Conditions are being violated
by that false and defamatory website.
YOU HAVE THE GALL TO INSULT ME FURTHER!!!
LADY/SIR, I THINK YOUR HEAD IS SCREWED ON BACKWARDS NOW.
So, who is going to pay for all the time I had to spend
this morning, trying to chase someone who has obviously
published false and deliberately misleading contact
information (read "lies")?
Am I now supposed to provide you with free training
to teach you what it takes to chase down one of these
defamatory criminals?
TILT!!
IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TO SHOW A SMALL MODICUM OF RESPECT,
YOU WOULD AND SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED ME PRIVATELY,
TO INFORM ME OF THIS WEBSITE AND TO ASK A RESPECTFUL
QUESTION CONCERNING THE PARTY(S) RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT
FALSE AND DEFAMATORY WEBSITE.
BUT ... NO NO NO ... NOW YOU HAVE TO LAUNCH INTO THIS
RICIDULOUS AND IDIOTIC AD HOMINEM DIATRIBE.
GOOD RIDDANCE. "BAN YOUR OWN BUTT" to use your own words.
**** The website was public knowledge. Anyone could find it just by typing his name in any search engine. The group found out later that he lied about his "chasing the criminals down" all morning. The famguardian.org is right in what they said about him and all of these messages from the group list back up their claim. So far I should say, as there's a lot more as you will see now.
I CONCLUDE THAT YOU AND I INTERPRET THE FOLLOWING
QUESTION VERY VERY DIFFERENTLY:
"What do you have to say for yourself?"
> better to ask and be wrong, than to assume and be wrong
WHAT ARE THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE WITH THAT QUESTION?
(1) that I was responsible in any way for that website?
Answer: NO!
(2) that I authorized my name to be used in that manner?
(3) that I bear any responsibility for answering that
(4) that I am somehow responsible for teaching others
how to investigate the WHOIS entries for these false
and defamatory websites, AND REPORT BACK HERE ON MY OWN
TIME AND AT MY OWN EXPENSE, SO THAT KEYBOARD COMMANDOS
LIKE XENA CAN SIT BACK AND BENEFIT FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S
EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY ONE THIN
DIME FOR THAT EXPERTISE?
ANSWER: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
STOP WASTING MY TIME WITH YOUR PRESUMPTIOUS NONSENSE.
Subject: Re: http://www.xenasvacuumheads.com
I'VE BEEN DAMAGED SIGNIFICANTLY,
AND THIS LIST HAS BEEN USED AS
A VEHICLE FOR DISSEMINATING
AND PROPAGATING THAT DAMAGE.
STOP TRYING TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG.
NO SKIN OFF YOUR BACK, EH??
THE DAMAGES WERE NOT "UNFORTUNATE", THEY WERE INTENTIONAL!!!!!
**** That is the same claim that he was posting on other lists. The group was in no way propagating damage. It's clear that he was suffering hallucinations of some kind or bipolar disorder. At this point, you will see how the group responds to this "nut".
From: Randy
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] Re: http://www.xenasvacuumheads.com
Get off your high horse
EASY FOR YOU TO SAY, RANDY!!
NO SKIN OFF YOUR BACK EITHER, EH???
YOU'RE NOT THE ONE BEING DAMAGED.
THIS TIME, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF SUCH
RUTHLESS LACK OF CONSIDERATION.
Subject: [easyDNS-377201] FORMAL COMPLAINT OF FRAUD AND DEFAMATION
To: easyDNS Support
CC: darren.mcconnell@torontopolice.on.ca, markjr@easydns.com, abuse@easydns.com, webmaster@easydns.com, billing@easydns.com
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell
Subject: [SLL] [easyDNS-377201]
FORMAL COMPLAINT OF FRAUD AND DEFAMATION BY YOUR REGISTRA
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:19:40 -0800
Greetings Sandy,
I DO NOT THINK YOU APPRECIATE HOW SERIOUS THIS MATTER IS:
REPEATING BLATANT VIOLATIONS OF YOUR
OWN PUBLISHED TERMS AND CONDITIONS:
8. The Applicant warrants to easyDNS that the details submitted by the Applicant to easyDNS are true and correct , and that future modifications or additions to those details will be true and correct.
Applicant's WHOIS data is false, fraudulent, defamatory and misleading THEREFORE NOT TRUE AND CORRECT!
FOR EXAMPLE, JUST CALL THE TELEPHONE NUMBER LISTED!!!
SEND POSTAL MAIL TO THE PHONY ADDRESS LISTED!!!
CONTACT THE EMAIL ADDRESS AND REQUEST THE SUSPECT'S PHONE NUMBER!!
ALL OF HIS CONTACT INFORMATION IS FALSE, SO
I HAVE NO WAY TO CONTACT HIM/HER, AND
NEITHER DO THE TORONTO POLICE!!!!
14. The Applicant agrees not to use the services provided by easyDNS to conduct any business or activity or solicit the performance of any activity that is prohibited by law.
Fraud, defamation and witness retaliation are crimes
prohibited by the United States criminal Code, and
by the Penal Code of the State of California.
If you need citations to U.S. federal criminal laws
that are being violated, start here:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/aol/index.htm
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/aol2/index.htm
No... my point was that she'd simply made a mistake.. granted, the question was worded improperly (at least that's what I believe).. .. while everything you say has plenty of merit, essentially what I see here is a case of throwing the baby out with the bath-water.. Clearly, it would have been far better for her to have addressed you privately and out of a curious manner.. I'm sure you would have explained to her exactly as you have, minus the rant.. and as far as your time, etc., wouldn't you still have had to do as you've done? What has been different, except in the manner of your delivery? While I don't know for a fact, Xena seems quite young, or at least, young in the faith.. so I see no benefit of driving her away, which has been the result of your shaming her for an error, as opposed to having willfully committed an evil action against you.. Whether of law or conscience, I'm sure you can understand that.. afterall, it was not 'her' site.. apparently you did not even know of it's existance.. so if that be the case, then oddly enough, she has inadvertantly done you a favor.. seems to me.. .. and as far as me 'wasting your time', the simple cure for that is: Ignore me if you must.. I've not asked for your 'legal' advice.. your propensity to value your time so highly over that of others, not to mention having to place a $ value to it, seems to stem from care for the *other* kingdom more than HIS..
From: Deborah Fielder
I agree, who is without sin cast the first stone? Everyone makes mistakes and this forum is for discussion not verbal assasination.
YOUR COMMENT SHOWS AN UTTER LACK OF CONCERN
OR RESPECT FOR THE LAW OF DEFAMATION IN AMERICA;
THERE IS ALSO THE MATTER OF NEGLIGENCE.
EVEN AFTER I ANSWERED HER QUESTION POLITELY,
XENACARPENTER [sic] THEN TRIED TO BLAME THE VICTIM
WITH AD HOMINEM NONSENSE. AND NOW XENACARPENTER
IS GOING TO FLEE THIS LIST?
WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
SO, NOW THAT I AM TRYING TO ENFORCE MY RIGHTS --
WHICH HAVE BEEN VIOLATED BY USING THIS LIST
AS A VEHICLE FOR BROADCASTING DEFAMATION --
NOW I AM GETTING BLAMED.
YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS, FLAT-ASSED BACKWARDS.
SHOUTING HERE?? YOU BET!!!!
**** HE was the one that had it FLAT-ASSED BACKWARDS, as he did NOT question me politely like he CLAIMED to. Go back all the way to the top to the first couple of messages.
Subject: IF YOU PEOPLE CANNOT HELP, THEN DO SHUT UP, PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!
> your propensity to value your time so highly over that of others,
not to mention having to place a $ value to it, seems to stem from
care for the *other* kingdom more than HIS..
This is more nonsense.
I have charged the same hourly rate for FIVE FULL YEARS NOW.
I am working PRO BONO for the U.S. Coast Guard.
NO CHARGE. GET IT??? NO MONEY CHANGING HANDS,
WHATSOEVER.
SO, YOU'RE COMPLETELY OUT OF ORDER.
"The laborer is worthy of his hire." The Holy Bible
See also the Thirteenth Amendment,
which is the Supreme Law of the Land THROUGHOUT the USA!!!!
CHEEEEESH!!!!!!!! ARE COMMUNISTS HIDING ON THIS LIST TOO???
SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SICKOS!!!
**** That message seriously took the cake for the group, as I heard that people emailed him privately, chewing him out for blaspheming the lord and his kingdom.
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] IF YOU PEOPLE CANNOT HELP, THEN DO SHUT UP, PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!
O.k. this subject is done on this list. Paul, pursue this in whatever manner you choose but do not include this list in any more tirades. This discussion is closed. Period. Linda
Subject: Re: IF YOU PEOPLE CANNOT HELP, THEN DO SHUT UP, PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!
SO, ADD INSULT TO INJURY AND THROW ME OFF YOUR
STUPID LIST: IT'S FULL OF HYPOCRITES AND
IDIOTS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.
YOU DON'T CARE ONE THIN DIME FOR THE DAMAGED PARTY
IN THIS MATTER.
SHAME ON YOU -- SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!
YOU WILL NOT INFRINGE MY FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WHICH I CAN EXERCISE
REGARDLESS OF FRONTIERS:
http://www.supremelaw.org/ref/treaty/index.htm
I NOW REGARD YOU AS A COWARD, LINDA ROBB.
Subject: NOW, WHEN HEAT COMES DOWN, THIS LIST VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT?
Subject: TruthAGAINSTTradition ???? IS THAT ANOTHER DELIBERATE LIE???
You've convinced me now that you are hypocrite, Linda Robb.
I have no better things to do than to defend the fundamental
Rights of all Americans, and I have been an American since
by birth in Worcester, Massachusetts.
Please STOP the double standards. They reflect very badly
on you and your precious little gathering of idiots.
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS THROWN IN JAIL TWICE?
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL ER,
BLEEDING FROM MY LEFT EYE SOCKET?
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS RISKING MY LIFE TO FIND
MISSING CHILDREN IN TUCSON?
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF
AGAINST THE IRS -- NUMEROUS TIMES?
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN MY MOTHER WAS KILLED?
ANSWER: YOU WEREN'T THERE FOR ME THEN,
AND YOU'RE NOT THERE FOR ME NOW.
HUH??
SPEAK UP!!!!!
I'M ALL EARS HERE.
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] Re: IF YOU PEOPLE CANNOT HELP, THEN DO SHUT UP, PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!
Freedom to speak and not to speak. Just because I have the freedom to speak, doesn't mean I always need to use it. I was also being respectful to Linda who asked this particular subject to be done with. It is of no benefit to continue arguing about this subject. You called us a bunch of idiots and hypocrites, you should look in the mirror first. I think that's what Jesus meant when He said 'judge not, lest ye be judged...' meaning, make sure you're not an idiot (or hypocrite) first, before judging someone else as an idiot (or hypocrite).
If you're all ears, I think I see your problem:
1Cor 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.
1Cor 12:15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
1Cor 12:16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
1Cor 12:17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
This is most unfortunate. I would ask how you perceive me as a hypocrite but I no longer have time for this nonsense. I work hard all day and love this group and garbage such as this is not tolerated or needed. We have work to do here and none of us have the time or inclinations for such ramblings. Good bye Paul. Linda
You have no better thing to do than to defend Americans rights?
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof
From: Kitty Phone
Subject: Re: [TruthAGAINSTtradition] TruthAGAINSTTradition ???? IS THAT ANOTHER DELIBERATE LIE???
Oh grow up. People just want you to act like an adult human being instead of a 2 year old.
Truthfully? You have confirmed every nasty feeling I have with lawyers.
This "idiot" will continue to use her delete button.
My comment was in response to the following:
> how to investigate the WHOIS entries for these false
> and defamatory websites, AND REPORT BACK HERE ON MY OWN
> TIME AND AT MY OWN EXPENSE, SO THAT KEYBOARD COMMANDOS
> LIKE XENA CAN SIT BACK AND BENEFIT FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S
> EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY ONE THIN
> DIME FOR THAT EXPERTISE?
***** It is 'you' that expressed concern over 'time and money'.. supposedly because of having to rectify a mistake made by Xena.. But it was the site and whomever put it up that was in error and cost you those things..
And to me, it is those who think that 'legal mumble jumble', can and does make any 'positive' difference.. Jesus was not speaking to just the lawyers in front of Him when he defamed them.. because lawyers take and twist one's language to a perverted version.. it is to them that the word SICKOS ought be applied.. thank you very much..
besides... a whois lookup takes less than a minute!
Well Paul, Linda does certainly have short-comings.. but I can tell you for a fact, she is no hypocrite.. at least, never intentionally.. regardless, I've seen nothing in anything that she's said to you as being hypocritical.. it would appear that you're having a horribly bad hair day.. And as far as all those trials and tribulations you've been through, I seriously doubt we knew of any of them.. and yes, it's very likely we may not have known or been able to help had we.. cannot say for sure not knowing the details.. even so, what has any of that to do with the error made earlier..resulting in all these rants ..?.. .. nothing you've said since Xena made her mistake has been anything remotely close to being helpful, of a Christian nature, nor even related towards the end here..
**** In the next message, the droid Hil steps in to cause trouble like she does at every list that she's been at. Especially on Sherry Shriner's list and at the bible codes yahoo groups. There are no truth seekers left at the bible codes groups because of the droid. Instead, the groups are now run by pagans.
From: "S.B."
Regardless if the WHOIS takes less then a minute or so, the point of the matter is that Mr. Mitchell was falsely accused.
From my perspective, it would be in the best interest of all involved that Xena apologised to him, or for both to utilise their private emails.
It's understandable that you, Cliff, are trying to be a mediator amongst both, but many times things do not work like that. It's best to allow them both space to work out their differences.
I do not know Xena nor Mitchell, not anyone else herein for that matter. What I do know is that Xena was out of line and that does not constitute someone else speaking on her behalf.
Granted we all make mistakes, but a mistake of this magnitude (defaming someone) is not to be taken lightly.
**** I did not create that website as she has been insinuating, causing trouble once again. And yes she does know me. She's at the same groups I'm at. Her name should have been TROUBLE instead, as that's what she is.
Really? Well, for a lawyer that's more than some make an hour.. .. so how does on do a 'whois', or is that an expensive question?
Subject: Fw: THANK YOU FOR REMOVING ME FROM YOUR LIST OF HYPOCRITICAL SUBSCRIBERS
To the group: I received this from our former member. Please be advised that I did indeed infringe upon his right of free speech and ejected him from our group. Obviously he did not take it well and if anyone does not think this was the right choice please feel free to tell me so. At no time do I want to stop people from saying what they think and what they want to say but I also can not justify sitting by and having myself and this group be subjected to slurs and name calling. I feel badly that this group may get a bad reputation from this whole mess but I also believe I did what I had to do. You have my sincere apologies for this whole exchange. I will not be posting anything more this evening (which may make some people happy :>). I feel very badly about this and the cruelness of people never ever stops amazing me.
I am not one of those lovey dovey types who will go on about praying for him etc...how he is with the Lord is his business. I do however pray that he find peace because there obviously are some issues there and I pray we have no bad thoughts about him.
Thank you all. Linda
Cliff, you keep saying that Xena made a mistake. I think I have to disagree with this one. I would have done the same thing she did. I don't know Paul, have never wanted to know Paul and would have felt very uncomfortable contacting him privately. Paul is (or was) supposed to be a big boy that could handle the world, at least that is what I gathered by the subject lines of the things he has posted. (Sorry, but I have never been lead to read his stuff.)
The way he has handled himself has only confirmed why I wouldn't have done what you have suggested. If he is acting this way with witnesses where he really should be controlling himself, then what could he have come up with if this was done privately. I know I would not have wanted to find out.
**** Well she wasn't the only one that wasn't led to read Mr. Mitchell's law crap. I wasn't either and neither was half of the group as I found out later after the whole tirade was over.
Whether Xena was out of line or not, it does not deserve the verbal abuse that Paul handed out. Anyone who can do a search on the web could have found that website. I do know that a few days or so ago, Paul posted a reply to an email he received (from elsewhere) where someone was speaking badly of him (Paul). Now, reading that, I wondered what the real story behind Paul was, but I did not pursue it. Honestly, I didn't worry enough about it to look into it.
If one worries about their reputation that much, and puts price tags on their time like that, then they have much learning to do from Jesus. While I personally am not in the public eye so to speak (I don't know if Paul is either), if I were, I would have to let my own work speak for my reputation. Similar to the 'Christian walk', actions speak louder than words. If someone like, say, Texe Marr worried about his reputation, he probably wouldn't last long in his ministry.
Whether Xena did wrong or not (it IS a public website) doesn't excuse the other posts made by Paul re: this newsgroup. He speaks of 'freedom of speech', but I suppose that didn't matter in regards to Xena's post. He called anyone on this newgroup an idiot and hypocrite and specifically Linda a hypocrite. While I don't take offense to any of it, it was still uncalled for. Should I go to his newsgroup (which is a paid membership only) and start spouting out the obvious? I mean, we all can be idiots and hypocrites at times, but I'm sure most of us on this newsgroup don't aim to live that life.
From: Brenda Joyce
Oh I don't know when he said idots here...well some have a bit of knowledge and some have a lot, but every body is not only on this site to learn but in this world to learn....seems to me somebody has a tantrum....oh well.....live and learn I suppose...brenda
Hi Hil,
Yah, it would have been better had the entire incident gone differently, but it didn't... however, it seems that you have made the exact same error as Mr. Mitchell, i.e., any false accusations of Mr. Mitchell were made by whomever made the site.. Xena merely came upon it and then brought it forward and asked about it.. while it's true she worded the question badly, that in itself should never have led to this emotional unheaval.. In essence, since Mr. Mitchell was not previously aware of those web pages, she inadvertantly did him a favor, albeit not intended.. but neither did she intend to defame or falsely accuse him.. He is suppose to be a lawyer, yet it was he making all the false allegations.. .. it seems to me, his only true purpose for being in the many groups he's in, is not for Christian (or otherwise) brotherhood, but to solicit business by giving enough away as bait.. (that's my personal opinion, which I've actually held for quite some time).. in any case, if you still contend that Xena, or anyone in this group for that matter, falsely accused Mr. Mitchell of anything, please bring forth the evidence (in context) .. thanks
**** Soliciting business through yahoo is called SPAM.
I did that. Best I can do I guess. I already am getting mail from his pals, not nice mail either. But, it is what it is. Thank you guys for all your support and all you tried to do. It is always sad when something ends like this. Linda
-------Original Message-------
From: TruthAGAINSTtradition@yahoogroups.com
Date: 03/08/06 17:26:21
To: TruthAGAINSTtradition@yahoogroups.com
Well, you could always offer people to join here and take a look see themselves at his behavior.
**** A lot of yahoogroups were invited to read the posts for themselves. Some people came to copy them and pass them around. I don't know how many groups kicked Mr. Mitchell out after the tirade took place. But I do know that a handful did, as they were disgusted to learn what kind of person he really is.
I know all this happened for a reason. Those who want the truth will come.
Now I just wish Xena were here. I'd love to be digging up a smiley for her.
**** They did not know that I had planned on coming back after the verbal assaults died down. At that time, I already had my box filled from members to come back to the list.
Better watch what you wish for.
I should not have worded the question as I did, and for that I am sorry.
However, that is no excuse for Mr. Mitchell in any way, shape or form, to start a total tirade
against this group, much less continuing to send me abusive letters.
Now whether if it was a good thing the tirade happened or not, I can't say. But
what I can say is that it appears Mr. Mitchell has a history of threatening anti-IRS
advocates, internet service providers, and universities with multi-billion dollar lawsuits. Or so it
says on the wikipedia site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Andrew_Mitchell
It doesn't take long to type in words in any search engine to find other stuff
if you want the truth. Frankly, Mr. Mitchell reminds me of that John "sue the bastards"
Banzhaf lawyer.
Well, I'm not sure what my wish was... *g*.. but welcome back anyways.. .. and I agree completely with your post.. however, may I suggest, from now on, right or wrong, don't head for the hills.. whether individually, or more so as a group, we will get things resolved..
Now on to Paul. How come what you have come up with does not surprise me??
**** And the next message [below] took my cake big time. Accusing me for acts of defamation. What just because I pointed out a website, that's acting as a criminal? And what about Mr. Mitchell's claim of how I telephoned everyone at the truth against tradition group? I don't have anyone's phone number. And then he ADMITS that he spent time, months ago, going after the person that made that website about him. That is NOT what he said before he got booted from truth against tradition group. He said that he spent ALL MORNING, chasing down the person that made the website. It's quite clear that he's a habitual liar that can't remember what he says to one person to the next.
**** And what about that droid Hil? Once again, purposely causing trouble at other groups with her accusations of how my behavior is childish and immature? What just because I send some toons and graphics that I make to some of the yahoogroups that I'm at? That's being immature? It's called SHARING. Hil said before in her previous message that she doesn't know me and yet she passes judgment on me. I'm not the one lacking of common sense. At least I have common sense and decency. I can't say the same for Hil unfortunately. And neither can the truthseekers who were driven away from the bible codes groups.
BEGIN Message 21832
From: Mofmars3@...
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2006 12:44 am
Subject: Re:***Group Alert***WITCHCRAFT ON THE INTERNET/TruthAGAINSTtradition
This is ridiculous...I know this list, "Truth Against Tradition" and every detail of what transpired, too...
The girl, Xena made an error and Linda was too quick to label you a nut case, Paul
We are going to hell in a hand basket and what are you doing spreading this all over in the forums as if it's a threat to national security?
Join TruthAGAINSTtradition-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and see what happened for yourselves...They're really nice people
It's unfortunate that someone set you up with that website, Paul...But this was a mole hill compared to the mountain you've made
Geeeez...I'd hate to see you if one did something really bad to you and intentionally, too
Witch Craft, my foot...You are out of here if you show this side of yourself again, lawyer or not and we have never banned anyone that I can remember
You are on your honor here, Paul...If you are able and big enough to retrieve it in letting bygones be bygones
You had that girl, Xena, scared to death and she was invited back by good hearts worried about her
You would be wise to retract this evil attack everywhere you put it or you may be hearing from a lawyer yourself...It is you who is wrong at this point due to your actions...Or reaction, I should say
I'm going to ask my lawyer friend if he knows you, Paul
Sorry to be so blunt...I was going to watch this play out but when you pulled the witchcraft craft crap I got angry because I happen to know these people were already worried about what all this negativity might do to their awesome group
They want to keep it that way and you "do" know who's on their side...Right?
"God" Bless you and Yours,
Marsha...PS...And what was said about Linda saying she would not pray for you was certainly taken out of context, too
"S.B." wrote: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:18:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Hello and G-d bless you
To: Supreme Law Firm
Agree. I'm going to pray about that Group, being that the perpetrator "xena" was allowed back in. Amazing, I cannot believe this crap!
Supreme Law Firm wrote: WITCHCRAFT
"S.B." wrote: Yes, indeed I see how many were quick to defend the instigator "xena" because they are friends or in some sort of clique with her. I stand firm on my beliefs and I'm not quick to judge unless I have substantial evidence (be it concrete evidence and/or evidence by the Holy Spirit.)
Ms. Robb did write an email to all the Group members stating that she was not going to pray for you, etc. Be that as it may, she will answer to G-d accordingly.
Peace in Him,
P.S. I'm very glad that you were prepared in advance for the situation. :-)
Ironically, xena reminds me so much of how the devil would turn tail and run when she realises she messed up. Let's face it, the adversary always does that. If there was no guilt nor nothing to hide, she would have stayed - furthermore, if she realised she did wrong common sense would say to apologise. Unfortunately, many people are even lacking in common sense. How sad.
Supreme Law Firm wrote:
Thank you. We jumped on this latest act of defamation,
because we had already spent time, several month ago,
investigating the offending website to which she pointed
in her original, obviously off-point and offensive message.
So, we were "ready" -- if you catch my meaning here.
The following is the general reply we just posted
concerning Linda Robb's separate complicity now, e.g.
trying further to insult me as a "nut case":
my complaint now v. TrusthAGAINSTtradition@yahoogroups.com :
the sad fate of all hypocrites is written in the Scriptures
--- In apfn-1@yahoogroups.com, Supreme Law Firm wrote:
> broadcasted widely on the Internet:
> That list was TrusthAGAINSTtradition@yahoogroups.com
> in case anyone is interested.
> A word to the wise is sufficient.
The full exchange between TruthAGAINSTtradition and Mr. Mitchell can be seen on our group site. Feel free to join and judge for yourself whether or not Mr. Mitchell was being defamed or if I am indeed a hypocrite. Linda Robb owner TruthAGAINSTtradition
The "full exchange" is NOT at that website,
because there are additional messages of
correspondence between me and the Internet
domain registrar for the offending website.
Actions speak louder than words.
When a list subscriber responds to my post about
suppressed carburetor inventions, with a message
and a link to a website that contains defamatory and
irrelevant material, that misconduct constitutes
probable cause for me confront the suspect(s).
The off-point nature of such defamatory aiding and abetting
is all the more reason why I found it necessary to confront
that individual; s/he may as well have telephoned all 150+ subscribers
to notify each of them individually of this particular website.
When that suspect promptly "fled" the scene,
that action speaks much louder than words to me.
And, when certain "others" decided to act as if
that suspect had done nothing wrong, and did so
without even bothering to investigate or to find out
if there was any reason to suspect the offending
website, that failure to obtain relevant facts FIRST
spoke to me of serious negligence -- more akin
to jumping to the wrong conclusions, in point
of fact.
Moreover, I find it hypocritical in the extreme whenever
list subscribers claim to be advocating "Rights" to this
and "Rights" to that; but, when one author's Rights
to his intellectual property and to his good name and
reputation are carelessly attacked in that manner,
or when he is then branded viciously as a "nut case" [sic]
by those very same subscribers BECAUSE HE TAKES
ACTION TO ENFORCE AND DEFEND HIS RIGHTS,
I AM LEGALLY REQUIRED TO TAKE THOSE ACTIONS
PARTICULARLY IF AND WHEN NO ONE ELSE WILL.
You can be absolutely sure that Alberto Gonzales and
his cronies are not going to defend ANY of my Rights;
they've already had their chance, and they've chosen
to torture and murder U.S. prisoners instead.
For your information, the Toronto Police Department
in Canada has also been notified, on the recommendation
of the Internet domain registrar for the website in question.
Defamation and copyright infringement across State lines,
and now across international boundaries, are criminal
in nature. And, there are international copyright treaties
that are applicable to this situation, so don't try to bluff
me -- by claiming falsely that Canada is beyond our
jurisdiction in this matter.
If you want to confirm the relevant research which my
office has ALREADY accomplished on this subject matter,
please see our lawsuit against AOL Time Warner, Inc. et al. here:
Perhaps I need to remind all the guilty parties that the
Good Lord has promised to vomit hypocrites out of
His mouth, when the day of FINAL JUDGMENT arrives.
Those are God's eternal Laws, in case you are hearing
this for the very first time.
Claiming ignorance of those eternal Laws will not save you --
not after you have already been told about their existence --
HERE AND NOW.
"S.B." wrote:
Hi Mr. Mitchell,
I'm just writing to let you know that I did post a letter within the Group stating that Xena was indeed out of line, and trying to defame you. I do not know you, Xena, nor anyone else within that Group.
However, it is evident that Xena's mouth/fingers tend to get her in more trouble then good.
Unfortunately, I have witnessed Xena's foul behaviour various times - being that I belong to several other Groups, which she happens to be a member also. She never thinks before she acts, it's a childish and immature behaviour which lacks total discipline.
I do not care for her attitude at all, and I have clearly specified that in open forum. Of course, she never responds to me at all.
Either way, I pray that you will come back to the Group. If not, let me know what other Group you are a member of, so that I may join. I've always been interested in your Posts, unlike others that are nothing but bogus.
I'm praying for you and please do not let that crazy woman get the best of you. Leave it in G-d's hands, He knows how to mete out perfect justice, even when the laws of this land fail to do so.
In Y'shua,
END Message 21832
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2006 1:19 am
Well that's exactly what he's done. I've been sent emails from others
that groups he posted to. Him and his pals are going to such depths to
not only tarnish my reputation, but this groups reputation as well. I
think it was a good thing the tirade happened. To see him for the
person that he really is.
**** END OF ALL GROUP MESSAGES
And yes, Mr. Mitchell is still harassing people on the net. After coming across him, I believe there are only very few honest lawyers in America. The bottom line is, you just never know what you may discover about the person after you come across them. When you deal with someone, you should do research on them. It not only applies when you are trying to find a lawyer to represent you in court. It applies when you are looking for people to work for your company. It applies when you are looking for someone to babysit your children. It's better that you have too much information about them, than to not have any information about them at all.
Now while this post was little of stormpuke and more of Paul Andrew Mitchell, it serves as a WARNING to those that may think of coming across him. Do NOT deal with this man. Stay FAR away from him. As to what role he's exactly playing on the stormpuke carousel, I'm not sure. What I do know is that it's not a good sign to see his name associated with the laws of the RICO ACT and the laws pertaining on how the government deals with ponzi schemes.
Will we see more of him in nightmare land? Time will only tell. I really don't care about my name being slandered all over the net. Because it's going to happen regardless. What I WILL care about, is if Paul Andrew Mitchell continues to hamper the efforts of bringing stormpuke to justice. I know a lot of people are losing hope in seeing justice being served. I know I am going to sound *democratic* when I say it, but help is on the way. Be it today, tomorrow or a year from now, help is on the way in some form or another.
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Problems Sprout For Nature Over Wikipedia
I found this amusing article that compares Wikipedia to the encyclopedia Britannica. I think the big difference is that Britannica is more "scholarly" and wikipedia is more modern for the modern folk of today. Wikipedia can change at the drop of the hat. The encyclopedia Britannica can't. Britannica comes printed in those big books [or on dvds], wikipedia doesn't. I prefer to use wikipedia instead of Britannica. Not only is it up to date around the clock, at least you can find commentary about some of the content listed at wikipedia. I think I left Britannica behind some time back, when I stopped buying the new version of Britannica on dvd each year. Why pay money when you can get information free. The whole internet is like a library to me. At least I can go on anytime I want, and be in my pajamas and no one would be none the wiser.
Anyway, here is the article that compares wikipedia to Britannica:
David A. Utter | Staff Writer
The Encyclopedia Brittanica has expressed its extreme displeasure
with the Nature science journal over its comparison of Britannica
to Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is just as good as Brittanica, so the story goes. At
minimum, Nature had described Wikipedia content as "no more
unreliable" than that in the venerable Brittanica. Now it has been
suggested in The Register by Brittanica that Nature's research
leaves much to be desired:
"Almost everything about the journal's investigation, from the
criteria for identifying inaccuracies to the discrepancy between
the article text and its headline, was wrong and misleading," says
Britannica.
"Dozens of inaccuracies attributed to the Britannica were not
inaccuracies at all, and a number of the articles Nature examined
were not even in the Encyclopedia Britannica. The study was so
poorly carried out and its findings so error-laden that it was
completely without merit."
Nature reported that of the 50 articles it sent to independent
experts, Brittanica's had 123 errors to Wikipedia's 162. Some of the
errors were differences of opinion instead of mistakes, Brittanica
also claimed:
"Dozens of the so-called inaccuracies they attributed to us were
nothing of the kind; they were the result of reviewers expressing
opinions that differed from ours about what should be included in
an encyclopedia article. In these cases Britannica's coverage was
actually sound."
Nature's choice to run the article without noting how it differed in
preparation from the academic work it usually presents probably has
caused the most problems. RoughType blogger Nicholas Carr posted in
February about discovering that detail:
I found that it was something less than I had expected. It is not
one of the peer-reviewed, expert-written research articles for which
the journal is renowned. (UPDATE: I confirmed this with the article's
author, Jim Giles. In an e-mail to me, he wrote, "The article
appeared in the news section and is a piece of journalism, so it
did not go through the normal peer review process that we use when
considering academic papers.") Rather, it's a fairly short,
staff-written piece based on an informal survey carried out by a
group of Nature reporters.
Ultimately, Carr observed just how Wikipedia could be a much better
source of information, if it followed the open source model more
rigorously:
The open source model is not a democratic model. It is the
combination of community and hierarchy that makes it work.
Community without hierarchy means mediocrity.
Contact our Staff Writers here:
http://www.webpronews.com/contact_wpn.html
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Canada hunters start killing seals, tempers flare
The article from Reuters [posted below] today disgusted me. The thought of anyone tormenting any animal makes me want to lynch the person in the street. Animal hunters have no respect for life period. The hunters talked about in the article should have been shot and hung for such inhumane treatment. Canada calls the killings humane. They have no business using the word "humane" since their nazis don't believe in being "human" at all. Lynching the nazis WOULD be called humane.
Anyway, the disgusting article from Reuters:
Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:50 PM ET
By Paul Darrow
OFF CANADA'S EAST COAST (Reuters) - Canadian hunters started shooting and clubbing harp seal pups on Saturday at the start of an annual hunt that is the focus of a tech-savvy protest by animal rights groups.
This year, 325,000 young seals will be killed on the ice floes off the East Coast where the animals gather.
Unusually warm weather means the floes are a fraction of their normal size and thickness, prompting hunters to kill the seals individually rather than clubbing them to death en masse as they cluster on the ice in pools of blood.
"It's slow going. The ice is not full of seals all over the place," said Roger Simon of Canada's federal fisheries ministry, which oversees the hunt.
The crack of rifle fire could be heard continually as hunters in boats shot seals as they lay on tiny floes and then dashed over to the bodies in hopes of retrieving them before they slipped off the ice and sank.
Once the animals are killed, they are skinned and taken into the hunters' boats. The pelt is taken to make coats while the rest of the carcass is usually left behind.
At one point a hunter, frustrated at the activists' presence, picked up the bloody carcass of a skinned seal and threw it at a small inflatable craft full of protesters and journalists. It hit the boat and sank.
One sealing boat steamed straight toward the journalists' craft and turned at the last moment, sending a wave crashing over the observers.
Canada says the hunt gives the local economy a crucial boost and helps keep a harp seal population of almost six million animals in check.
The Humane Society of the United States has chartered a 110-foot (30-meter) boat to follow the hunt and is putting film and videos of the killings on its Web site.
"It's disgusting when you stand out here and look at what the seals have been through already. They're clinging on for life as it is, thanks to the effects of global warming," said the society's Rebecca Aldworth.
"I'm really appalled the Canadian government continues to allow this slaughter. There's no need for anyone to be out here killing seals," she told Reuters from the hunting zone.
CANADA SAYS KILLINGS ARE HUMANE
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Canada was behaving responsibly and would enforce rules ensuring that the seals were killed humanely.
"Unfortunately here we're to some degree the victim of a bit of an international propaganda campaign," he said on Friday.
Celebrities such as former French film star Brigitte Bardot and ex-Beatle Paul McCartney called on Ottawa this week to stop the hunt.
Aldworth repeated calls for an international boycott of Canadian seafood to protest what she said was "incredible cruelty at the hunt, including dragging conscious seals across the ice with boathooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony and skinning seals alive."
The first part of the hunt, which takes place near the Magdalen Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, usually takes about 10 to 12 days to complete. This year's quotes is just over 90,000 seals.
The second and larger stage, off the coast of Newfoundland, starts on April 4. Reuters 2006.
Dark clouds gather over 'Painter of Light'
It's not everyday that you hear a news scandal of a modern day famous painter. When I first saw Kinkade's work long ago, my first impression of it was that there was something ominous behind the bright, colorful paintings.
Now whether if these accusations that have come about him are true or not, I can't say. But the news article from the Guardian newspaper below makes a good read for those interested:
Entrepreneur artist who hangs in one in 20 US homes accused of fraud and drunken antics
Oliver Burkeman in New York
Saturday March 25, 2006
"There's over 40 walls in the average American home," a business manager for the artist Thomas Kinkade once said, "and Thom says our job is to figure out how to populate every single wall in every single home and every single business throughout the world with his paintings."
Kinkade's luridly idyllic landscapes, full of quaint cottages and glowing firelight, already hang in an estimated one in 20 US homes. "In the often hurried, unsympathetic and complex world we live in, the images Thomas Kinkade paints offer a place of refuge," his company's literature purrs. "A place where the transient things of life give way to the things that matter most ... faith and family, a loving home and the people who know and love us."
Art critics have long dismissed his work as a kitsch crime against aesthetics. But now the world has grown even more "unsympathetic and complex" for the artist, who describes himself as a devout Christian and has trademarked his "Painter of Light" soubriquet. In court documents and other testimony, he has been accused of sexual harassment, fraudulent business practices and bizarre incidents of drunkenness including a habit of "ritual territory marking" that involves urinating in public places.
'Misleading picture'
A court-appointed arbitration panel has ruled in favour of two former owners of Kinkade-branded galleries, ordering his company to pay them $860,000 (£500,000) for breaching "the covenant of good faith and dealing" and failing to disclose pertinent business information.
The panel found that his firm "painted an unrealistic and misleading picture of the prospects of success for a dealer", while using religious language to foster an atmosphere of trust.
Kinkade won two other claims, but six more are pending, including one from a Michigan man who says he lost $3m in assets, along with his marriage and most of his possessions, after the galleries he owned went broke. Other former employees and associates of the artist - in court testimony and in interviews with the Los Angeles Times - recounted how he had fondled a woman's breasts at a company event, and lashed out at an ex-colleague's wife who tried to help him when he fell from a bar stool.
Two former employees, Terry Sheppard and John Dandois, told the panel of further examples of Kinkade's unpredictable behaviour: bringing disorder to a Las Vegas performance by the illusionists Siegfried and Roy by repeatedly yelling the word "codpiece" from his audience seat, and urinating in public - in an elevator and on a model of Winnie the Pooh at a Disneyland hotel. "This one's for you, Walt," Mr Sheppard claimed the artist said as he did so.
Business empire
The allegations threaten to destabilise a business empire that made Kinkade at least $53m in personal income between 1997 and 2005, thanks to a complex system of art marketing. The cost of a Kinkade print changes depending on whether it is on paper or on canvas, and unsigned or signed; certain versions are "retired" from the market at critical moments to give them scarcity value. A team of "master illuminators" at Kinkade's galleries charge yet more to add real paint to his prints, enhancing his trademark glowing light effect on works with names such as Sunset on Lamplight Lane and Cobblestone Christmas. The pictures are also available in numerous other forms, printed on teddy bears, cushions, lounger chairs, T-shirts and Bible covers. Three years ago a residential community modelled on his painted homes was opened in California.
The artist - who once said of Picasso that "he had talent but didn't use it in a significant way" - has acknowledged that he went through a bad period.
"If during this period I ever offended anybody, I am sorry. Anyone who knows me knows I always try my best to be loving ... the good news is I learned many valuable lessons from that phase of my life," he wrote in an email to gallery owners this month. He blamed "disgruntled ex-dealers" for launching "media attacks" on him, but acknowledged in a separate statement that "there may have been some ritual territory marking going on".
He denied the harassment allegation, but said in a deposition: "You've got to remember, I'm the idol to these women who were there. They sell my work every day, you know. They're enamoured with any attention I would give them. I don't know what kind of flirting they were trying to do with me. I don't recall what was going on that night."
In his email he said that long after "this absurd negativity" had subsided, "I will still be here, sitting in front of my easel, trying my best to share the light."
'Such insistent cosiness seems sinister'
The critics on Kinkade
"A Kinkade painting was typically rendered in slightly surreal pastels. It typically featured a cottage or a house of such insistent cosiness as to seem actually sinister, suggestive of a trap designed to attract Hansel and Gretel. Every window was lit, to lurid effect, as if the interior of the structure might be on fire. The cottages had thatched roofs, and resembled gingerbread houses. The houses were Victorian and resembled idealised bed-and-breakfasts ... "
Joan Didion
"[One painting] features mountains and quiet shadows and the purple cloak of sunset, but it could just as easily have featured a lavishly blooming garden at twilight, or maybe a babbling brook spanned by a quaint stone bridge, or a lighthouse after a storm; it's hard to distinguish one Kinkade from the next because their effect is so unvarying - smooth and warm and romantic, not quite fantastical but not quite real, more of a wishful and inaccurate rendering of what the world looks like, as if painted by someone who hadn't been outside in a long time."
Susan Orlean, the New Yorker
"There's always been starter art, but Kinkade is the lowest form of starter art I've ever seen."
San Francisco gallery owner
Kinkade on the critics
"The No 1 quote critics give me is, 'Thom, your work is irrelevant.' Now, that's a fascinating, fascinating comment. Yes, irrelevant to the little subculture, this microculture, of modern art. But here's the point: My art is relevant because it's relevant to 10 million people. That makes me the most relevant artist in this culture."
Kinkade
· Sources: Where I Was From, by Joan Didion; the New Yorker; the San Francisco Chronicle
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Part 38: A vision/nightmare about the future of me speaking out against stormpukey-stormpay
Either stormpuke managed to get a hold of one of new world order's gizmos [meaning their dream projector machine] or it's a warning from the most high himself about what may be taking place down the road as this war against stormpuke continues.
The nightmare [or dream or whatever it should be called] started with my friend picking me up at some place. It looked like a school, but I don't know. Anyway after I got in the car we were driving around and it wasn't long before a cop car came from behind and beeped their siren for us to pull over. I begged my friend to step on the gas, knowing full well what would have happened if the cop got us. She didn't do what I told her to do. Instead she pulled over, saying to me that there was no reason for running, as we weren't breaking any law. All of a sudden our car was surrounded by cops. They broke the windows and dragged us out and they dragged my friend to the cop car and threw her in it and they were beating me to death as they were reading her rights. They all left before I got the chance to get up. I was black and blue and suffered some broken bones.
Now I don't know what happened next, as I don't remember, but I saw that I was interviewing several lawyers to find the one that would help me get my friend out of jail. The lawyer that I picked was already preparing for the case and he said that the chances of getting my friend released from jail were very slim because of my celebrity status. I don't remember the whole conversation, but it was apparent that the stormpuke war was public knowledge like the enron scandal.
The next thing I saw, was that we were in the courtroom. Testimony was given by witnesses about stormpuke. I could not see their faces, as they were blurred. The judge was being a real asshole when it was my turn to testify. When I didn't give the answers that they wanted to hear, the judge threw the book at me and declared a mistrial and that the trial was over. People walked out of the courtroom in fury and I and my lawyer were the only ones left in the room. I was horrified by the whole thing. The lawyer said to me to not to give up. He'll keep appealing and if he has to, he'll find a court out of the country that would hear the case.
Then what appeared to happen next was that we were back in his office and discussing "other" ways of getting my friend out of jail when someone burst into the office, saying to turn the tv on. We turned it on to find out the media reporting from the prison about how my friend was found dead, that she hung herself. I knew damn well that she would never do anything of the sort. I knew that the prison ward or someone in the prison killed her on purpose to make it look like an accident on the behalf of stormpuke. I was left in tears, as the lawyer and the other person walked out of the office, leaving me so that reality can sink in. That's when I woke up. I don't remember anything else other than what I am telling about this nightmare.
I asked the most high if this nightmare I experienced should mean anything to me. His response was that this ongoing war is going to get worse and that to expect more trouble from the courts in California. As to what kind of trouble, I don't know. I think the people have already had enough, as I had found out that thousands of people have downloaded the court order from my site that California granted stormpuke just so that they don't have to pay the money they stoled back.
Will Grinchky and his crew get away with it all? Time will only tell. Stay tuned. It's not over until the fat lady sings. I'm fat, but I'm not singing....yet.
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Another 9/11 plot foiled: Crude Bombs Explode Near Homes in Colorado
As usual, the TV media doesn't report anything that matters to people. Instead, the disgruntled journalists on the net report it, hoping that someone will read it and pass it on to others. The best advertisement there is, is word of mouth.
It is clear that the new world order is either falling apart, or they are sick of waiting for the martial law holocaust team to be in power. When will the new world order learn that they can't continue to commit heinous acts against humanity without it coming back to strike them dead? Some people just never learn.
The news out from the Associated Press in Colorado:
Crude Bombs Explode Near Homes in Colorado
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (March 24) - At least three crude bombs exploded and two others were disarmed Friday outside homes in western Colorado.
No injuries were reported, and there was no immediate claim of responsibility. Authorities were focusing on "two people of interest" as officers continued searching for clues, said Police Sgt. Paul Quimby.
"We are concerned there are others out there that no one has discovered yet," he said.
The bombs were described as black, office-style trash cans covered in silver duct tape. One explosion scorched the front of a garage door and melted vinyl siding.
"This would be very doable by kids with the Internet and a little ingenuity," Quimby said.
The Daily Sentinel of Grand Junction reported that the homes were owned by employees of SERCO, a subcontractor for the Federal Aviation Administration. Quimby declined to comment on the report.
A team from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was heading to the scene, ATF spokeswoman Sheree Mixell said.
Grand Junction, a city of about 45,000, is near the Utah border about 250 miles west of Denver.
2006 The Associated Press.
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'Desperate Housewives' Inspires Video Game
What's going to be next? That all the tv shows get their own video game? It all reminds me of when I first heard about The Godfather miniseries video came that they put out and James Caan made a comment about the reason why he "lend" his voice in the game was so that his kids can play with him when he's dead. Each original actor that lend their voice for The Godfather video game received $400,000 for doing so. I don't need to wonder how much moola the Desperate crew of Wisteria lane will get to keep their yappers shut.
Anyway, here's the press release about it from Reuters below:
LOS ANGELES (March 24) - Walt Disney Co.'s Buena Vista Games Inc. said on Friday it plans to release a PC video game based on the wildly popular television show "Desperate Housewives" this fall.
In the game, players take on the role of a new housewife who can uncover or create new scandals on Wisteria Lane, the seemingly perfect street where the show takes place.
Actress Brenda Strong, who is the voice of deceased housewife Mary Alice Young on the show, has signed on for a similar role in the game. Negotiations are in the works with the other cast members, a spokeswoman for Buena Vista Games said.
The game's developer is Liquid Entertainment, creator of the PC game "Dragonshard."
Reuters Limited.
Humor: The Top 20 Bogus Charities
A humorous list from the top five peanut gallery:
C L U B T O P 5
Where the customer is #1 and the employees are #2.
The Top 20 Bogus Charities
20> National Endowment for the Farts
19> Bourbon League
18> American Bong Association
17> Doctors Without Boxers
16> American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Todd
15> United Negro Collage Fun
14> Ron Jeremy's Home for Wayward Yet Large-Breasted Girls
13> American Panzer Society
12> Earth Fifth!
11> Animals for the Unethical Treatment of Laboratory Scientists
10> Veterans of Foreign Drawers
9> Support Services for American Dyslexia Assessment and
Betterment (BADASS)
8> Girls Gone Wildlife Fund
7> Bleeding Is Fundamental
6> Muscular Dance Trophy Association
5> Toys for Twats
4> Keister Seals
3> Naked Witch Foundation
2> Habitrail for Sean Hannity
and Topfive.com's Number 1 Bogus Charity...
1> Mothers Against Muff Divers
[ The Top 5 List www.topfive.com ]
The Runner Up & Honorable Mention submissions
Bogus Charities
RUNNERS UP list -- SADD
AmeriCorps Special Subsection of Kids Willing to Pick Up the Dog
Crap in My Back Yard
(Gretchen Stille, Brookfield, IL)
American Canker Society
(Rex Meredith, Palm Springs, CA)
Americans Assisting Alphabetically Addicted Associations Acquiring
Aid Against Abusive Acronym Antics
(Brad Simanek, Cedar Rapids, IA)
(Mary Ann McDonald, Sacramento, CA)
Doctors Without Board Certifications
(Bill Muse, Seattle, WA)
Fake-a-Wish Foundation
Fresh Hair Fund
(Jody LaFerriere, Leominster, MA)
G-Unit's Forties for Shorties
(Carl Knorr, Devo City, OH)
Jimmy V for Vendetta Foundation
(Gordon Sherman, Camp Slayer, Baghdad)
Make a Swish Foundation
(Dave Wesley, Pleasant Hill, CA)
National Association for the Enhancement of Breasts
(Dave Henry, Slidell, LA)
Oil Executives for Social Justice
(Curt Cutting, Santa Monica, CA)
Salvation Coast Guard
(Sandra Hull, Arlington, VA)
The Bin Laden Institute for the Advancement of Islam and Death to
(Kim Moser, New York, NY)
The Foundation Garment Foundation
(Richard Skora, Columbus, OH)
Tit Cancer Awareness Society
(Jim Rosenberg, Greensboro, NC)
UNIQWIF
(Paul Wiley, Westtown, NY)
Runners Up list name
HONORABLE MENTIONS list -- Charity Cases
ASPAM
(Gideon Griebenow, Johannesburg, S. Africa)
American Fart Association
(Mark Weiss, Austin, TX)
(David Zechiel, Lake Forest, CA)
American Kid Knee Fund for Scrapes and Owies
(Michael Cunningham, Woodridge, IL)
Carholic Charities
Cheney Institute for Facial Reconstruction
(Ed Smith, Chattanooga, TN)
Coy Scouts of America
(Daniel Weckerly, Limerick, PA)
Doctors Without Bordeaux
(Pam Wylder, Bloomington, IL)
Eponymous Agronomists Anonymous
(Martin Bredeck, Hybla Valley, VA)
Farmer'sTanAid
Greenpeas
(Bruce W. Alter, Fairfax Station, VA)
(Allan Rousselle, Redmond, WA)
Guide Dog Foundation for the Blonde
(Lori Petterson, Fairfax, VA)
Habitat for You Manatees
(Larry Hollister, Concord, CA)
Helen Keller School for Football Referees
Institute for Destitute Prostitutes
Maybelline Foundation
Naturist Conservancy
PAULATMANBATSALC (People Against Unnecessarily Long Acronyms That
Mean Absolutely Nothing but Appear to Support a Legitimate Cause)
(Tom Stoudt, Fort Washington, PA)
Piece o' Corpse
Playing Doctor Without Borders
(Chuck Smith, Woodbridge, VA)
Police Malevolent Fund
Single Sclerosis Society
The Indicted Way
The TopFive Society for the Preservation of List-Based Comedy
(Andrew Hackard, Austin, TX)
United Chewish Appeal for Wookiees
(Paul Schindler, Orinda, CA)
Part 37: Google's latest attempt in destroying my blog at the behest of stormpuke-scumpay-stormpay
I am so sick of google's censorship and attacks on my blog that now I am going to suggest [better yet, REQUEST] that people BOYCOTT google and ANY service that is related to google. Google has put some of their engineers up in purposely leaving rude comments on my blogger, and not to mention that they keep putting some url code line in their rude comment that is purposely rendering my pages unreadable in any search engine. The image below is an example of what I am talking about.
This war has been going on since midnight tonight. It's now going to be 6 o'clock soon. If their attacks don't cease in another 30 minutes, I will have no choice but to disable the comment feature on my blog.
Stormpuke is getting very desperate. They have made it perfectly clear that they WILL NOT pay the money they stoled back. Read some of my previous posts about other attacks they've tried. They are at the point now where they have lost their total common sense. Anyone who is going after them to get their money back is in danger. Anyone who continues to speak out against stormpuke is in danger. Keep a tape recorder on you at all times. There is no telling when DHS [department of homeland security] will show up on your doorstep. People are here today and gone tomorrow. The future is promised to NO ONE.
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As we do every Friday we take questions from podcast listeners today. We discussed the question for Michael who's going for the first one to the big Island and wants to know some must do hiking adventures. We offer some suggestions including exploring the North Kohala coast. We also discuss a question from Rachel who wants to know which zipline is the best if they want to see a rain forest and waterfalls. Our suggestion is that she do the zip and dip adventure at the Princeville Ranch.
This week's funny question comes from a person who wanted to know if we have the same holidays in Hawaii as one the mainland. The answer to the question is yes and no so we go over some of the unique holidays to compare and discuss the dates.


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Q: Django form.is_valid always returning true I'm new to Django and python and am trying to learn it from a book. In the code below I'm trying to make sure password1 and password2 are the same but it doesn't seem to run the clean_password2 validation because it always returns true even if they have different values.
import re
from django.contrib.auth.models import User
from django import forms

class RegistrationForm(forms.Form):
    username = forms.CharField(label=u'Username', max_length=30)
    email = forms.EmailField(label=u'Email')
    password1 = forms.CharField(
        label= u'Password',
        widget = forms.PasswordInput()
    )
    password2 = forms.CharField(
        label= u'Password (Again)',
        widget = forms.PasswordInput()
    )

    def clean_password2(self):
        password1 = self.cleaned_data.get('password1')
        password2 = self.cleaned_data.get('password2')

        if password1 != password2:
            raise forms.ValidationError('Passwords do not match.')
        return password2

A: If you are cleaning two fields that depend on each other, you should override the form's clean() method. You can read more here.

A: Any validator that requires access to more than one field should be part of the clean()  method not the clean_<filedname>() method.  Check out how django-registration does what you're looking for: https://bitbucket.org/ubernostrum/django-registration/src/58eef8330b0f/registration/forms.py#cl-57

A: Are you sure you're checking form.is_valid() rather than form.is_valid? It's a method, not a property.

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Birds Without Wings
A Ghost Town Remembered
Birds Without Wings' is Louis de Bernieres' sixth novel and is set in the fictional village of Eskibache, based on his impressions and experiences when visiting the nearby "ghost town " of Kayakoy several years ago.
". . . his portrayal of sleepy, multi-ethnic village life before, during and after the First World War is a magnificent achievement."
Placed against the backdrop of the collapsing Ottoman Empire, the Gallipoli campaign and the subsequent bitter struggle between Greeks and Turks, the book traces the fortunes of one small community in south-west Turkey, a town in which Christian and Muslim lives and traditions have co-existed peacefully for centuries.
When war is declared and the outside world intrudes, the twin scourges of religion and nationalism lead to forced marches and massacres, and the peaceful fabric of life is destroyed.
Philothei, a Christian girl of legendary beauty, and Ibrahim the Goatherd who has courted her since infancy are but two of the many casualties. With the end of a community that once transcended religious differences, their great love seems destined to end in tragedy and madness . . .
Here Louis reads a passage from his book, standing outside the Archangelos Mihal Taxiarhis church in the upper town.
Louis de Bernieres has returned twice to Kayakoy (each time in May to coincide with the Fethiye Arts & Culture Week) to share his vision of the lives of the lost people of the town, and provide an insight into the parallels between the real Kayakoy and Eskibache, his fictional creation.
These are the remains of the large house which Louis imagined as the home of one of the key characters from the book, Rustem Bey, and his concubine Leyla.
"The inner court was a sea of glimmering, moving golden-yellow lights. There was no pattern to it.
Some of the flames were momentarily still and others were travelling, meandering slowly among the lemon trees, the pots of pelargonium, oregano, mint and rose. It was as if the stars had been captured from Heaven and been set in motion there in that small square of the lower world. Leyla laughed with pleasure to see him so amazed.
'I did it for you,' she exclaimed. 'I did it for you.'
Rustem Bey stepped forward and bent down to look. 'By the Prophet,' he exclaimed. Each light was the flame of a candle, and each candle was bourne on the back of an animal. 'It's wonderful,' he said. 'Where did you find so many tortoises?'
'The children,' said Leyla. 'I got the children to go out and find them.'
'It's wonderful,' repeated Rustem Bey. 'I have never seen anything so pretty in all my life. You did this for me?'
'Yes, my lion'.
'My lion,' he repeated. 'You never called me that before.'
'I have,' she replied softly, 'but not so as you would hear.'"
At the end of our guided walk through Kayakoy with Louis, he describes the expulsion of the Christian population from the town, and the confusion of the inhabitants, both those departing and those remaining.
"In their houses, the Christians attempted to deal with the bewildering and impossible task of working out what to take.
. . . It was one of those exceeding rare occasions when blessed indeed are the poor, for by far the greater proportion of the people lived in such straitened circumstances that there were relatively few choices to make."
"And when the people came home from seeing the Christians leave . . . for days afterwards all you heard at night was the crying of the cats.
' . . . .and they were wandering about, distressed, crying that low moaning cry and some of them wailing, and it was a terrible sound and it was frightening and I lay on my pallet listening to them, and I couldn't sleep, and I understood why they were crying in the great sudden loneliness and strangeness of the town, and that is what I remember more than anything else, the crying of the cats.'"

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8192 Tonucci è un asteroide della fascia principale. Scoperto nel 1993, presenta un'orbita caratterizzata da un semiasse maggiore pari a 2,2220723 UA e da un'eccentricità di 0,0523532, inclinata di 8,29861° rispetto all'eclittica.

L'asteroide è dedicato al ciclista italiano Giuseppe Tonucci.

Collegamenti esterni

Corpi celesti scoperti nel 1993
Tonucci

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